SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux
i-ubux at synass.net
Thu Feb 28 08:15:08 UTC 2008
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 07:36 +0200, Alexandra Zaharia wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:48 AM, SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux
> <i-ubux at synass.net> wrote:
> > If RAM is big enough ONE don't even need this /SWAP !!
> You do need it :-) I have 3 GB of RAM on my computer and still keep
> the 2 GB swap partition I had back when having 1 GB of RAM. You can
> never know when you'll be using a lot of memory-requiring apps that
> will need swap space.
OK & Sorry: My fault to express it correctly:
Of course I am recommending a /SWAP-less installation !
Our systems have between 1 to 2GB RAM and I always set /SWAP with 2GB !!
> > My idea was more just like following:
> > prim 1: ntfs / WIn installation, untouched / just shrink to 18-20GB
> > prim 2/u: /BOOT or
> > prim 2/w: ntfs / Win Data partition, data sharing with Ubuntu too or log
> > 1w:
> > extended
> > log 1/w: ntfs / same as prim 2w !?
> > log 2: /SWAP
> > log 3: /HOME (not mentioned in this discussion) Ubuntu data !!!
> > log 4: /ROOT
> > I am not sure what would be better:
> > 1) Generally: Win data partition prim 2w or log 1w as primary or logical
> > and if primary, after or before prim 2u: /BOOT !?
> As I see it, it doesn't really matter except if you desperately need
> another primary partition.
Well, not desperately do I need another primary partition !
I have one more OS I want to install with this configuration and
one more primary partition is needed because of the following
1st prim C: partition / ntfs contains Win XP PRO !
2nd prim C: partition / hpfs will contain my OS/2 Warp 4 installation !!
plus the environment discussed above to run my Ubuntu/s or other
With Ubuntu/s or uther *ux'es I mean additional research or test
> > I always do include watching the device names too and try to group them
> > together properly !
> > For the above it means:
> > sda1 = OS / Win
> > sda2/u = /BOOT Ubuntu, shareable with more Linux'es !?
> > sda2/w = Data Win
> > sda3 = extended
> > sda5/w = alternatively Data Win
> > sda5/u = /SWAP Ubuntu/ shareable with more Linux'es !?
> > sda6 = /HOME Ubuntu/shareable with more Linux'es !?
> > sda7 = /ROOT OS Ubuntu
> If you want your device names to take up on a particular scheme such
> as the one you described above, you need to take extra care at the
> planning partitioning stage. But why bother doing so, when you can
> just specify a 'human' mount point for each partition that will be
> easy to remember? For instance, consider that in your above scheme
> somehow you mess up and fail to make sda5 your Windows data partition
> and that somehow this Windows data partition comes up as 'sda6': what
> would stop you to mount it at each boot under /media/windata instead
> of /media/sda6 ?
Well, OS/2 and Win do work with drive letters !
The problem is that both do not recognize each other: hpfs and ntfs !!
The usable common format is FAT32 !!!
I have to watch very carefully to avoid any driveletter shiftings with
these two OS'es !!
This is a reason why I try to group all respective partitions / device
names very carefully !
> > sda/b+ = /ROOT for more Linux'es !? possibly on another HDD or USB
> > media !?
> You don't want to mix up things. "/root" is a directory under "/" that
> is the root user's home. Furthermore, a partition with a Linux flavor
> installed onto it (such as sda7 = mount point for / in your example
> above) can only be used by its Linux flavor - if you want to install a
> 2nd Linux distro, you would of course need another partition to mount
> as the 2nd flavor's "/" :-) Of course that inside "/ for Linux flavor
> 1" you can mount the other partition as /media/linux2 and viceversa.
> > possibly on another HDD or USB media
> Yes indeed. I currently have 2 HDDs and Ubuntu - the OS I use most
> often of the 4 installed - is installed onto the 2nd HDD, on hdb6. A
> Debian install is found on hda6, FreeBSD on sda1 and Windows XP on
> sda2. So yes, you can boot Ubuntu from a slave HDD and in my case,
> sdb6 - the partition onto which it's installed - is a logical one.
OK and again sorry for my misinterpretation:
With /ROOT I meant the real ROOT = / and not the directory / folder
of /root within / !!!
Your explanation is very interesting for the ongoing planning of my
My thoughts were:
With /BOOT and its /GRUB with menu.lst I may have a common source with
to all my OS'es !?
Primarily always Ubuntu 8.40 the productive environment
Secondarily and upon choice any other OS like another Ubuntu as test
... or OS/2 or whenever really needed Win XP PRO !
> Just a hint for the OP - if your Vista OS is *NOT* the 64b version
> one, you might want to try out Ext2FS - a tool which allows you to
> mount your ext2/3 partitions under Windows with read/write access.
> You can find the app here: http://www.fs-driver.org ; a guide, maybe:
> I mention this because I successfully used it on 2 different machines
> (XP though...) without any troubles. It *should* work with Vista too -
> provided, again, you don't have the 64b version.
Vista, no, God beware !!! ;-)
Well, all our system configurations have been almost Win-FREE the last
13 years !!
Almost bought NO M$ SW, except with my first Win WfW 3.11 notebook in
Tests with Win 95 ended with FAT errors within less than 3 days and
I changed to OS/2 Warp Version 3, OS/2 Warp Connect Version 3 and
OS/2 Warp Version 4 I am still using without Blue Screen Bonus's. ;-)
Basically it hasn't needed any forced RE-installation/s for more than 10
always running troublefree and smooth !
Yeah, Ubuntu may send OS/2 into pension here and
as a Ubuntu / Linux newbie I am currently discovering and working for it
> HTH, Alex
Yes & thanks a lot, Alex, your feedback helps me a lot ! :-)
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