Ed.Greshko at greshko.com
Tue Feb 26 06:09:23 UTC 2008
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> steve wrote:
>>> Michael wrote:
>>> | Conor Schaefer wrote:
>>> |> I think a lot of people fail to realize the remarkable amount of
>>> |> resources poured into the average binary install file... for instance,
>>> |> ever use subversion to compile something from source? You would be
>>> |> astounded at the amount of space you need to allot, just to create a
>>> |> several megabyte large install file.
>>> |> Programming is a beautiful, beautiful thing.
>>> | I agree, but, that install file should be what the customer gets. Why
>>> | do I need to have several compilers and create my own install file every
>>> | time i want a different program or just an update to one i already
>>> | have.
>>> compiling is done on a per machine basis, and is tailored for your cpu,
>>> memory, video, etc for optimum speed. with windows you get what they
>>> give you, you like it or not, you have no choice. linux is choice, open
>>> source. windows is not.
>>> Windows does some things right and thats one of them.
>>> this is what is exactly WRONG with windows. dumbed down to run on every
>>> machine at the same speed.
>>> I have been around PCs since DOS 2.0, but I am not a programmer, why
>>> should I
>>> | need to be to work with Linux?
>>> you dont need to be. if you want pre compiled packages your free to use
>>> what is available from the repositories. if the program isnt available
>>> from the repositories then you need to download the source and issue 3
>>> simple commands, configure, make, make install. whats so difficult with
>>> | IMHO and YMMV and all that. :-)
>>> | Mike
>>> What was so difficult with that is that I had to download and install
>>> multiple packages to accomplish those three simple commands. I probably
>>> had to install over 25 megabytes of ancillary programs to do those three
>>> simple commands. That extra software is now resident in my system
>>> using up my disk space. Not all software is available in the repos.
>>> All Window software comes with an installer. My point with Windows is
>>> that it is easier to install software. Whether on not it is custom
>>> fitted to my system is immaterial to me. I want results, I am more
>>> interested in the destination than the journey so to speak. I use Linux
>>> for a variety of reasons but I am not blind to its faults or to Windows
>>> pluses for that matter. You have a different philosophy when it comes
>>> to using the software and that's fine. I don't want to get into Windows
>>> vs. Linux, it's been done to death. I do want to thank everyone for
>>> helping me with getting those three simple commands to work, I
>>> appreciate it.
>> Silly question....but you wanted to "compile" something and not simply
>> "install" something.
>> When was the last time you did a compile on Windows? Do you think doing a
>> "compile" on Windows is any less "expensive"?
> No, I wanted to install something. I was forced to compile it to
> accomplish that.
Right...since you couldn't find a pre-compiled binary for your use. So,
there is no reason to complain about having to install an environment needed
to compile it. At least you could do it. I venture to say that if you
needed something for windows that you found you had to compile yourself
you'd be in much the same situation.
I may have missed it, but did you first ask the list if anyone knew of a
package containing what you need so you didn't have to compile?
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