eclipse-pydev: New upstream release 1.3.13 avaible
jbinpg at shaw.ca
Wed Feb 20 21:31:37 UTC 2008
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:41:00AM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Kristian Rink wrote:
> > Am Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:59:41 -0800
> > schrieb Nick Stinemates <nick at stinemates.org>:
> >> I think for packages such as these, a generic way to install it in an
> >> Ubuntu like fashion -- i.e, putting it in proper/guessable directory
> >> structure -- is the draw to having it done through Synaptic.
> > I am definitely torn about that, absolutely unsure whether having
> > an application platform like Eclipse installable using syn(apt)ic is
> > desirable. Imagine this situation:
> > - Somebody used to working with Eclipse moves from Windows to Ubuntu
> > and discovers that Ubuntu In Its Undisputable Greatness already comes
> > with Eclipse in its repository. "apt-get install eclipse-sdk", and
> > things seem fine.
> Hey, we must be looking for a name for Hardy+1 - IIUG works for me!
Too late. Intrepid Ibex is already confirmed for Hardy+1.
> Too? Perhaps what it really needs is for apt to be able to say, for any package
> with predictable directory structures, "Ah, there is a locally installed
> copy at version X, let's not install for now". This would be fairly simple
> in the package install scripts, but difficult to do before downloading the
> > - However, by then, one is possibly used to working with the Eclipse
> > Update Manager, so possibly after installing the Eclipse SDK via
> > synaptic, making use of this facility provided by Eclipse to install
> > some additional features and uninstall some others.
> >> I believe I misread the initial tone, and is definitely why I encased
> >> it in <rant> tag's as well ;)
> We're all friends, again! :-)
> > From that point of view, I wonder
> > whether not having Eclipse available via the Ubuntu repos would be a
> > better solution than having (no offense to those who build the Eclipse
> > packages) a half-baked solution that breaks either apt or Eclipse
> > Update Manager.
> I wonder, but the real problem is that everybody and their dog designs their
> own package update system. Whatever happened to the concept of reuse? If
> Eclipse (and others) would just use .deb formats, it would be a perfect
> world and we'd all be happy (not to mention rich & beautiful).
> The project I mostly use Eclipse with is maven based. That adds a whole new
> complication as it continually downloads gigabytes of java packages I
> already have from Ubuntu...
Excuse my ignorance, but do other distros have this problem or have they
solved it somehow?
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