cheap ubuntu laptop with wireless that works right "out of the box".
chrcop at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 18:13:54 UTC 2008
On 31 Jan 2008, at 14:58, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Christopher Copeland wrote:
>> I never said everything needs to be open-source, but given the choice
>> I'll prefer a driver that is.
> Sooner or later when you're dealing with NICs you get down to a
> level of
> closed source - it might be firmware and it might be an NDIS driver,
> but it
> really makes no difference in the long run.
And when I say I don't feel everything needs to be open source that
means not every driver and not the entire contents of any specific
driver. I don't mind firmware blobs as long as the driver as a whole
does what I need it to do. NDIS can't do that.
> I confess to have only used 3 different wireless chipsets (I keep
> meaning to
> try out the D-Link that my wife used to use on her now-deceased
> machine). One (intel) worked fine with a native driver. Two (a TI
> acx1100 - I think - and this one, a BCM94311MCG) worked only
> with native drivers, but flawlessly with ndiswrapper.
I guess this points more to the fact that I seek out a card that will
work natively.. and of the 3 manufacturers you mentioned intel is the
one that gives the most linux support..
>> This includes long distance point to point connections,
> 1000ft to the router connected to my satellite uplink...
Not a satellite uplink in my case.. but a longer LOS connection :-)
> I accept there are times it may _not_ be sufficient to use
> ndiswrapper, but
> not for most people.
Well that's my argument, most people are fine with ndiswrapper but I'm
not, and that is why I prefer native drivers. :-)
> That was my choice with my last laptop - I specifically ordered a
> Dell with
> an intel card. Then Dell refused to honour the warranty I paid for,
> and I
> bought a cheap NIC that worked with ndiswrapper. Next laptop, I just
> decided it wasn't worth the aggravation, and bought cheap, planning
> to use
> the internal wireless if it worked, or the cheap NIC if it didn't.
I think that reflects more on Dell than on the state of linux wireless
> They're not. They're releasing hardware that works with a known
> interface. I will accept only that if they haven't actually tested
> it with
> ndiswrapper and provided installation instructions for Linux systems
> ndiswrapper that they really couldn't care less about Linux, but imo
> they've done that much they're playing nice.
Our opinions will just have to differ on how nicely they are actually
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