ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 283

[Jeff Silverman]

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: users and groups (H.S.)
>    2. Re: users and groups (H.S.)
>    3. Re: users and groups (H.S.)
>    4. Re: ipods on ubuntu (Hal Burgiss)
>    5. Re: ipods on ubuntu (Dotan Cohen)
>    6. Re: Menu viewing problem... (NoOp)
>    7. Re: users and groups (Matthew Flaschen)
>    8. Re: Menu viewing problem... (Larry Shields)
>    9. Neither 8.04 or 8.10 will boot on my hardware so I am stuck
>       at 7.10 (Jeff Silverman)
>   10. Re: Neither 8.04 or 8.10 will boot on my hardware so I am
>       stuck at	7.10 (Matthew Flaschen)
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>
> Subject:
> Re: users and groups
> From:
> "H.S." <hs.samix at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:59:58 -0500
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> Brian Astill wrote:
>   
>> I've examined "man adduser" "man adduser.conf" and the contents 
>> of /etc/adduser.conf /etc/group and /etc/passwd.
>> Unfortunately I still can't see how to do what I want to do.  
>> <sob>
>>
>> A number of users are to use the same machine.  That isn't the 
>> problem.
>>
>> I want to set up another home directory which all can read (and 
>> preferably few can write).  That directory might be owned by 
>> root, group allofus.  Seems to me I need to have all my users in 
>> group allofus as well as their personal group as part of the 
>> setup.  BUT there doesn't seem to be a way of putting a user in 
>> more than one group.
>>     
>
> Let us say you have groups g1, g2, and g3, and users alice and others.
>
> To make user alice a member of all the above groups (which I assume
> already exist):
> $> sudo adduser alice g1
> $> sudo adduser alice g2
> $> sudo adduser alice g3
>
> and so on for other others and groups.
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>> EXTRA_GROUPS in adduser.conf seems to be designed for access to 
>> various peripherals.  Maybe I'm missing something.
>>
>> Advice would be welcome. 
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: users and groups
> From:
> "H.S." <hs.samix at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:10:59 -0500
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>
>   
>>     If you want this user to be able to use another Desktop he must be 
>> given the Group that can use this. You do this with  addgroup as root.
>>     
>
> addgroup creates a new group and not add a user to a pre-existing group,
> I believe. Please check 'man addgroup'.
>
>
>   
>>     On Ubuntu it is different because everyone can use "sudo" and become 
>>     
>
> No, not everyone.
>
>
>   
>> root. It must be possible to remove this capability from the users but I 
>> have never done so.
>>     
>
> It is already taken care of. Only the first user created during
> installation can use sudo. Additional  users must belong to admin group
> to use sudo. The very first user created during installation is also
> made to belong to the admin group.
>
>
>
>   
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>
> Subject:
> Re: users and groups
> From:
> "H.S." <hs.samix at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:14:49 -0500
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>>     Well it occurs to me you must have a password to make sudo work and 
>> I am the only one with that password. So it may not be a problem.
>>     
>
>
> Either I don't understand what you mean here or you do not understand
> how sudo works. If the former, please rephrase, if the latter, then:
> Users belonging to 'admin' group can use sudo. When they try any command
> with sudo, they are asked for *their* password not for some special
> password for the sudo command.
>
> This is how it works in Ubuntu. Now if it is possible to setup sudo to
> use a special password common to everyone, I do not know about that ...
> and would love to know more if you do.
>
>
>
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: ipods on ubuntu
> From:
> Hal Burgiss <hal at burgiss.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:44:44 -0500
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 02:11:44PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>   
>> http://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/26/connect-ipod-to-gtkpod/
>>     
>
> I get errors trying to play music, that reference 'no command xmms'
> (or somesuch). I've installed xmms2, which is an Ubuntu available
> package. But I still get the error. Isn't xmms obsolete stuff? Thx.
>
>   
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: ipods on ubuntu
> From:
> "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:49:05 +0200
> To:
> "Hal Burgiss" <hal at foobox.net>, "Ubuntu user technical support, not 
> for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> "Hal Burgiss" <hal at foobox.net>, "Ubuntu user technical support, not 
> for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> 2008/12/27 Hal Burgiss <hal at burgiss.net>:
>   
>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 02:11:44PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>     
>>> http://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/26/connect-ipod-to-gtkpod/
>>>       
>> I get errors trying to play music, that reference 'no command xmms'
>> (or somesuch). I've installed xmms2, which is an Ubuntu available
>> package. But I still get the error. Isn't xmms obsolete stuff? Thx.
>>
>>     
>
> Try asking in the comments of that thread. The author has answered
> similar support questions in other threads in the past.
>
>   
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: Menu viewing problem...
> From:
> NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:19:33 -0800
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> On 12/25/2008 06:20 AM, Larry Shields wrote:
>
>
>   
>> The OO.o was just an example, it is happening on other programs as well...
>>
>> My system has two hard drives,  with Intrepid installed on both of them, 
>> on this hard drive everything works fine, the other HD also did at one 
>> time, but now it seems to have gotten messed up some how...They both are 
>> keep'ed up to date, so it isn't from any updates that have been install...
>>
>> So I just wanted to know if anyone had the same problem and had a fix 
>> for it...
>>
>> Thanks for the reply...
>>
>> Larry
>> *
>>
>>     
>
> <http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2Bopenoffice+%2B%22missing+menu+text%22&btnG=Search>
>
> Try:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6417805
> ====
>  Re: Missing menu text in Openofffice 3.0 when using Compiz
> System > Pref > Appearance > Fonts set rendering to "subpixel smoothing"
> then go to details set smoothing to "subpixel" and hinting to full.
> ====
>
>
>
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: users and groups
> From:
> Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:29:17 -0500
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> H.S. wrote:
>   
>> This is how it works in Ubuntu. Now if it is possible to setup sudo to
>> use a special password common to everyone, I do not know about that ...
>> and would love to know more if you do.
>>     
>
> I know it is possible to make sudo use the root password, which is what
> I do for my machine.  It may be possible to set it to use the password
> of a separate, dedicated account.  However, I don't know how to do so either
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Menu viewing problem...
> From:
> Larry Shields <larryesu at charter.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:38:38 -0600
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/25/2008 06:20 AM, Larry Shields wrote:
>>
>>
>>  
>>> The OO.o was just an example, it is happening on other programs as 
>>> well...
>>>
>>> My system has two hard drives,  with Intrepid installed on both of 
>>> them, on this hard drive everything works fine, the other HD also 
>>> did at one time, but now it seems to have gotten messed up some 
>>> how...They both are keep'ed up to date, so it isn't from any updates 
>>> that have been install...
>>>
>>> So I just wanted to know if anyone had the same problem and had a 
>>> fix for it...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply...
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> *
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> <http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2Bopenoffice+%2B%22missing+menu+text%22&btnG=Search> 
>>
>>
>> Try:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6417805
>> ====
>>  Re: Missing menu text in Openofffice 3.0 when using Compiz
>> System > Pref > Appearance > Fonts set rendering to "subpixel smoothing"
>> then go to details set smoothing to "subpixel" and hinting to full.
>> ====
>>
>>
>>
>>   
> *Well thanks you for the reply, it was very interesting to find out 
> that the problem was infact the font settings...
>
> It is now working fine...
>
> Again, many thanks Larry
> *
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Neither 8.04 or 8.10 will boot on my hardware so I am stuck at 7.10
> From:
> Jeff Silverman <jeffsilverm at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:34:49 -0800
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> People,
>
> When I try to boot either 8.04 or 8.10 on my desktop, the boot process 
> takes about 20 minutes and eventually kicks me into busybox with an 
> initramfs prompt.
> I carefully checked the MD5 checksum before burning my CDs and did a 
> read after write when I burned my CD. I had the same troubles 8.04. 
> The system would take about 20 minutes and kick me into initramfs and 
> busybox. I can still run 7.10 just fine. I also tried using 
> all_generic_ide and rootdelay=130 in the boot string, no joy.
>
> I read somewhere that this was a bug in a 8.04 and I was hoping that 
> it would be fixed in 8.10.  I wish I had kept that information.
>
> I have an IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
> VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) AMD 
> Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ 512 MBytes of RAM.
>
> This is a generic IDE controller with "old fashioned" IDE disk drives. 
> What other information would be helpful?
>
> Thank you
>
> Jeff Silverman
> jeffsilverm at gmail dot c0m
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Neither 8.04 or 8.10 will boot on my hardware so I am stuck at 7.10
> From:
> Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>
> Date:
> Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:45:53 -0500
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> Jeff Silverman wrote:
>   
>> People,
>>
>> When I try to boot either 8.04 or 8.10 on my desktop, the boot process 
>> takes about 20 minutes and eventually kicks me into busybox with an 
>> initramfs prompt. 
>>     
>
> You're trying to boot the LiveCD?
>   
I'm trying to do an install.
>   
>> I carefully checked the MD5 checksum before burning my CDs and did a 
>> read after write when I burned my CD. I had the same troubles 8.04. The 
>> system would take about 20 minutes and kick me into initramfs and 
>> busybox. I can still run 7.10 just fine. I also tried using 
>> all_generic_ide and rootdelay=130 in the boot string, no joy.
>>     
>
> What makes you think it is a disk driver issue?
>   
I went through this troubleshooting issue with 8.04 and I got a response 
(which I wish I could find) which said it was an issue with the disk 
device driver.  I don't enough about linux to think of what the next 
troubleshooting step might be.  Do you have suggestions?

> Matt Flaschen
>
>
>   


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