ISO boot of latest 8.04

Thu Aug 7 22:53:35 UTC 2008

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr>wrote:

> On Thursday 07 August 2008 20:05, Verde Denim wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Dave Woyciesjes
> <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> > > Derek Broughton wrote:
> > > > Verde Denim wrote:
> > > >> I have the 8.04 i386 desktop iso. I'm currently installing win on
> the
> > >
> > > box,
> > >
> > > >> just to see if it's hardware. This same error has been reported in
> > > >> launchpad (and apparently hasn't been dealt with yet, since I read a
> > > >> few instances of this). I've the various workarounds (pcmcia=nomsi,
> > >
> > > ide=nodma,
> > >
> > > >> remove the splash) but no joy there either. I'll check the md5 of
> the
> > >
> > > iso
> > >
> > > >> file on my other ubu box and see what that brings, although i've
> > > >> burned three different downloads from three different mirrors, and
> > > >> they all say they have defective files on the cd - using different
> > > >> burners. It's beginning to make me wonder about the iso being
> > > >> distributed.
> > > >
> > > > Ta Da!  Really, how can you possibly hope to install from defective
> > >
> > > media?
> > >
> > > > In this case, I can practically guarantee that it _is_ your media.
>  My
> > >
> > > last
> > >
> > > > install from my own media left me with three bad CDs before I finally
> > >
> > > gave
> > >
> > > > up and wrote the image to a _DVD_.  The iso size pushes the limits of
> > > > what's possible with a CD, and cheap media can't handle it.  It's
> > > > cheaper for me to use 10% of a DVD to hold the image than to burn 10
> > > > CDs in the hope that _one_ of them will work.
> > >
> > > FYI -I have tried burning the CD image to a DVD, and can read the
> files,
> > > but couldn't boot from it on the various machines I've got....
> >
> > Ok - so i just yanked 2 copies of Kubuntu 7.04 discs from my work lab
> which
> > was used to install 4 other systems. I ran the integrity check on the
> first
> > - it shows 24 files bad!
> > On running the second - 2 files
> >
> > I'm not sure what this indicates, since the win media installed fine.
> >
> > > --
> > > --- Dave Woyciesjes
> > > --- ICQ# 905818
> > > --- AIM - woyciesjes
>
> I can't speak for the disk integrity checker on Ubuntu/Kubuntu, but know
> that
> with one of my Fedora installs I ran the integrity checker for each of the
> cd's (5 in total IIRC). the first was on one make of media, and passed the
> check, and the rest of the cd's were all on a different make of media, and
> according to the integrity checker all failed. Having seen a comment that
> the
> integrity checker could be unreliable depending on your media, I just went
> ahead and ran the install, and there were no problems whatsoever.
>
> On a new machine that I've recently built, which has an Asus M2N-X Plus
> mobo,
> and an AMD64 3800+ CPU, and also an ATI based Asus graphics card, I've had
> nothing but problems booting anything, whether install cd's, live cd's,
> whatever.
>
> I had to disable acpi in the BIOS to get them to boot, and even after that,
> I
> had to append the kernel line, for most of the distros with acpi=off,
> otherwise, and in the case of Kubuntu GG, and HH specifically, when the
> bootup got as far as starting X, the whole machine would just lockup. No
> mouse, no keyboard, no nothing.
>
> The only Distro that did install ok, without appending the kernel line (and
> that is after disabling acpi in the BIOS) was Kubuntu Breezy, which is
> using
> an early 2.6.12 kernel (pre udev). having all the updates to upgrade to
> Dapper on another drive, I upgraded Breezy to Dapper, which also added a
> 2.6.15 kernel. I rebooted using the 2.6.15 kernel, and again when X was
> started everything locked up. I rebooted into recovery mode, or whatever
> it's
> called for the 2.6.15 kernel, and found myself effectivally in runlevel 1.
> Startx got me into the desktop, no problemo.
>
> As the desktop was accessable, I then booted up, appending the kernel line
> with a 3, and then once booted could look around in the filesystem for any
> problems. Pressed enter, and wonder of wonders, I didn't get runlevel 3,
> but
> the the KDM login screen, and was able to login to KDE. Don't ask me why
> appending the kernel line with a 3 has resolved the problem in booting into
> Dapper with the 2.6.15 kernel on my new machine, as I've absolutely no idea
> whatsoever.
>
> Based on my experience with this new machine, and installing several
> different
> distros, sometimes it's all a bit trial, and error. Quite why appending the
> kernel line with acpi=off stops the machine locking up when booting, I've
> no
> idea.
>
> I'm still getting problems on this new machine when downloading large files
> (iso's), when not using the machine for anything else. During the day I see
> no lockups, but if the downloads are proceeding overnight, oftentimes the
> following morning I find the machine locked up.
>
> I am sort of wondering if the mouse pointer should be moved from time to
> time,
> and maybe this will stop the lockups. For this I will need a script to move
> the mouse pointer periodically, but will post this on a new thread.
>
> Thursday evening ramblings, and probably not even worth 2¢.
>
> Nigel.

Ok - I don't know how or why, but after about a hundred trial-and-error
runs, i got ubuntu 7.10 server installed. Now I can re-post my original
problem with this box and its crazy hardware - the SATA card odyssey...

Thanks LOADS for all the help - it was all very well received!

Jack

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