very basic about initial install

[Anna EdwARds]

They opted to do this for securities sake. It is impossible to make a password for root because if there was one, it would make a hackers job easier because they wouldnt have to guess a username because root is on every unix base and like machine

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--- Original Message ---
Date: Sat Apr 26 10:58:15 PDT 2008
From: reader at newsguy.com
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: very basic about initial install
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Ioannis Vranos  writes:

> reader at newsguy.com wrote:
>> I'm amazed now using the server install that I still cannot get a
>> command line during install.... I have to walk thru fdisk 1 primite
>> screen at a time.
>> 
>> Whats up with total avoidance of a simple command line?
>> 
>> There appears to be no way to get a darned command line and just use
>> fdisk like I've done so many linux distributions
>
> Perhaps you should be better with Slackware or something.

Just a word of explanation for my bitching...
I wanted to install gentoo in vmware on windows vista but after many
attempts and google fishing... It never happened.

I switched to Ubuntu to see if it would install and boot... and presto
.... it did on the first try  .. so nothing but kudos there.

Once I started trying to use the new install I began to see how
crippled it was in terms of doing things the unix/linux way,
established over decades of linux and unix use.  And use of numerous
distribution over the years.

Some other distros also hide the command line but I've found there is
usually some way provided to access it as root without running around
chasing your tail.

Apparently `sudo' is that way with Ubuntu, but only if your network
dns is able to `find' your machine.  Or at least that appears to be
the failure message when I attempted to use sudo to access root on a
recent desktop install of ubuntu inside a vmware on MS vista.

It seems like really poor design to have complicated and possibly no
access to a root terminal.  Why not just establish a root passwd
during install....? I can't imagine why designers would have opted to
make that difficult.

I'm not trying the server install.

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