8.04?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 05/04/2008, Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount at googlemail.com> wrote:
>  > Does the fact that the URL spans more than one line really bother you?
>  > I understand why tinyurl would be useful if one must remember the URL
>  > or say it over the phone. But for transfering over email, are the
>  > security, latency, and reliability problems worth it? That, and you do
>  > not know to where the URL is pointing until you go to the tinyurl
>  > site?
>
> I'd suggest that they are, given that you're the first person I've come accross to have experienced them.

Interesting. I know many people who do not like tinyurl.

>  > Oh, I see, and what they do to those who follow your link doesn't
>  > concern you. Then why do you care that they will see a long url, if it
>  > doesn't concern you?
>
> I'd have thought that the majority of people won't really mind that there are a bunch of Ubuntu users out there looking at the ubuntu bug tracker.
>  I'd also have thought that anyone who feels strongly enough about this kind of thing is already used to having to go the long way round things in an effort to avoid the black helicopters.

The issue is not specific to the Ubuntu bug tracker. There are other
links that a user may want to visit without going through a third
party.

>  > So the reference citation is only valid when tinyurl is not performing
>  > maintanance?
>
> No.
>  The reference citation is only valid while it works. TinyURL are (read: should be) perfectly capable of performing maintenance without bringing all their functionality down.

I would prefer for my links to work regardless of whether a
third-party service is down.

>  And, if they do happen to be down for whatever reason when someone wants to access the link, and that someone cannot wait for it to come back up again, it's hardly difficult to find the 'real' URL.

I did not know that was possible to do without going through tinyurl.
How can one tell what the url of a tinyurl link is, without using the
tinyurl service?

> I don't use dialup _that_ often, but when I do I can't say I notice TinyURL making things take a huge amount longer.
>  The notable difference is that IE-only sites and .doc files

It is noticable where I surf. I can bear it, but I bring it up.

I would expect the people on this list to be able to understand the
implications of having links go through a third party.

Dotan Cohen

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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