[ubuntu-users] Second of several questions

[Ted Hilts]

J & K Spaulding

Thank you for your suggestion but I think you have missed an important 
point. First, I employ SAMBA (both client and server) on my LAN where 
ever I can. No, I cannot use SAMBA for this problem because there is no 
way of declaring these ntfs hard drives as shares operating under 
Ubuntu. If there is a way of so declaring these ntfs drives as SAMBA 
shares operating under Ubuntu then "great" but I don't think that is the 
case.

Remember, as I earlier stated, these ntfs drives are automatically set 
up by Ubuntu as:

"

My problem is the ntfs hard drives.  Anything I store on them under 
Ubuntu operations looks like:
-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev   371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip

"
When I do the mount command this is what I get:

/dev/sde1 on /media/sde1 type fuseblk 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)

So, you see that it seems to me there is no way of declaring these ntfs 
hard drives (operating under Ubuntu) as SAMBA shares so they could be 
accessible to another Windows (XP, etc.) machine. The problem is not 
accessing these ntfs drives on the local machine (in this case the dual 
boot XP-Ubuntu machine. The problem is other Windows (XP, etc.) machines 
accessing these ntfs drives. Other Windows machines seem unable to write 
and execute even though the permissions allow this. I think the reason 
is that MS Windows OS can't handle these permissions and ownership 
classifications and I cannot alter them because they are inherent in the 
way Ubuntu deals with ntfs drives.

If I am wrong then give me the SAMBA syntax command line that will allow 
operation of these ntfs drives as SAMBA shares operating under Ubuntu 
and accessible by means of write and execute modes by the other Windows 
machines on the LAN.

Hope you or someone else has a solution. Otherwise, I think I will 
reformat these ntfs hard drives to Linux ext3 format and then declare 
them as shares served by the Ubuntu SAMBA SERVER and therefore available 
to LAN Windows machines (share clients) as SAMBA MOUNTS generated by the 
Ubuntu SAMBA server.

Thanks, Ted


J & K Spaulding wrote:
> Have a look at samba. I can't test to see if you can share a mounted ntfs
> file system but you should be able to.
>
> There are also a number of gui front ends to samba that you can use.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> John.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Ted Hilts
> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:13 AM
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc: thilts at mcsnet.ca
> Subject: [ubuntu-users] Second of several questions
>
> In order to try ubuntu I set up a dual boot with Ubuntu and XP.  Soon 
> after, I was using Ubuntu  with special downloads and Firefox add-ons 
> for most of my more important tasks. Before I installed Ubuntu on an 80 
> Gig partition I had been using the XP machine's hard drives (C 
> drv,DVDrw, and 6 hard drives in a SCSI configuration) to store 
> backup's.  I still want to do this backup function using some of the 
> hard drives but under Ubuntu not under XP.  I also want to keep the dual 
> boot arrangement for the time being.
>
> My problem is the ntfs hard drives.  Anything I store on them under 
> Ubuntu operations looks like:
> -rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev   371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip
>
> This is okay for local machine disk operations but other XP machines 
> cannot do write and execute access to these ntfs hard drives operating 
> under Ubuntu.  These hard drives need to be set up as shares. When using 
> XP OS they are declared as shares but when using Ubuntu OS they cannot 
> be declared as shares -- or so it seems to me. So in order to do this it 
> seems I have to reformat any ntfs hard drives in a Linux format (or 
> fat32) in order to use them as "shares" under Ubuntu operation.  I have 
> with other Linux systems stored XP and other Windows backups. I cannot 
> be sure that this was done without some hidden problems
>
> My question is based on the above.  What is the best Linux file system 
> which would support the storing both Linux and Windows(95,98,XP) 
> backups???  And....is there any real problem in moving files back and 
> forth from one file system to a different file system as I am planning 
> to do??? Have I missed something important???
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Ted
>
>
>
>   
J & K Spaulding

Thank you for your suggestion but I think you have missed an important 
point. First, I employ SAMBA (both client and server) on my LAN where 
ever I can. No, I cannot use SAMBA for this problem because there is no 
way of declaring these ntfs hard drives as shares operating under 
Ubuntu. If there is a way of so declaring these ntfs drives as SAMBA 
shares operating under Ubuntu then "great" but I don't think that is the 
case.

Remember, as I earlier stated, these ntfs drives are automatically set 
up by Ubuntu as:

"

My problem is the ntfs hard drives.  Anything I store on them under 
Ubuntu operations looks like:
-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev   371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip

"
When I do the mount command this is what I get:

/dev/sde1 on /media/sde1 type fuseblk 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)

So, you see that it seems to me there is no way of declaring these ntfs 
hard drives (operating under Ubuntu) as SAMBA shares so they could be 
accessible to another Windows (XP, etc.) machine. The problem is not 
accessing these ntfs drives on the local machine (in this case the dual 
boot XP-Ubuntu machine. The problem is other Windows (XP, etc.) machines 
accessing these ntfs drives. Other Windows machines seem unable to write 
and execute even though the permissions allow this. I think the reason 
is that MS Windows OS can't handle these permissions and ownership 
classifications and I cannot alter them because they are inherent in the 
way Ubuntu deals with ntfs drives.

If I am wrong then give me the SAMBA syntax command line that will allow 
operation of these ntfs drives as SAMBA shares operating under Ubuntu 
and accessible by means of write and execute modes by the other Windows 
machines on the LAN.

Hope you or someone else has a solution. Otherwise, I think I will 
reformat these ntfs hard drives to Linux ext3 format and then declare 
them as shares served by the Ubuntu SAMBA SERVER and therefore available 
to LAN Windows machines (share clients) as SAMBA MOUNTS generated by the 
Ubuntu SAMBA server.

Thanks, Ted