School Project; please read
Dick Dowdell
dick.dowdell at gmail.com
Wed Oct 17 02:11:50 UTC 2007
I wasn't talking about VMPlayer --- The full featured VMware Server is now
FREE. VMware is the leading virtualization product in the Windows space.
Why recommend anything less.
On 10/16/07, pkaplan1 at comcast.net <pkaplan1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> A good alternative to VMWare is VirtualBox. The free version lets you
> create new VMs, which VMPlayer does not.
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Dick Dowdell" <dick.dowdell at gmail.com>
> > Brian,
> >
> > Given your requirements, I would highly recommend using the FREE VMware
> > Server (http://www.vmware.com/download/server/). Any solution that
> requires
> > the re-partitioning of an MS Windows hard drive is very risky and can
> easily
> > lose data or render the PC unbootable with Windows. Unfortunately,
> Windows
> > OSs (2K, XP, Vista) were implemented under the assumption that Microsoft
> > products are the only OSs anyone might have running on a PC. They don't
> > really even play well with each other.
> >
> > You can download the Windows version of VMware and get as many
> installation
> > keys for your students as you need. I'd do a complete Ubuntu
> installation
> > under VMware with all the software you need for the class. You can zip
> up
> > (Windows utility) the files that make up the Ubuntu virtual machine
> files
> > and burn them to a DVD. The virtual machine files can be unzipped and
> run
> > on any PC with VMware installed.
> >
> > If you are interested in this approach, I can give you detailed,
> > step-by-step, instructions. For years, I've been using this approach
> for
> > testing Linux software on Linux and Windows hosts because you cannot
> screw
> > up the host from inside a virtual machine and you can take snapshots of
> > virtual machines and restore them to their pre-test state if there are
> > problems. A Ubuntu virtual machine can have full network access and can
> > apply any standard Ubuntu updates as needed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dick Dowdell
> >
> >
> > On 10/16/07, Brian Fahrlander <brian at fahrlander.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, for the first time in literally years, a break appears: if
> I
> > > can write a how-to on setting up an "Introduction to Linux" class, the
> > > local college will PAY me to do it. Teaching...getting paid...two
> > > things I thought I wouldn't really see again... :>
> > >
> > > Technical questions: ('cause this is that list)
> > >
> > > They have all Windows boxes; probably 2k3 or XP. Vista, if they
> > > hurt someone in a past life...it is enough to have them resize, say,
> 5G
> > > of their drives to install Linux? How tough is that? (I've not
> > > maintained Windows this century...)
> > >
> > > Is it possible to hand out "Live" CDs and do anything meaningful
> on
> > > them, like learning spreadsheets, word processing, etc? I'm assuming
> > > any school work would have to connect to a shared-space, someplace...
> > >
> > > Are there other low-cost ways to present Linux to a room full of
> > > students, easily? (I'm aware of LTSP; I'm also aware of netbooting
> > > having changed drastically since I used it...but I love the idea)
> > >
> > > If we can get this class going, there's a good chance of
> exposure!
> > > (And I stay out of child-support prison...)
> > > --
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and
> Technomad
> > > Evansville, IN
> http://Fahrlander.net/brian
> > > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk:
> WheelDweller
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Dick Dowdell
> > 508-498-7919/508-528-4018
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Dick Dowdell" <dick.dowdell at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:48:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: School Project; please read
> Brian,
>
> Given your requirements, I would highly recommend using the FREE VMware
> Server (http://www.vmware.com/download/server/). Any solution that
> requires the re-partitioning of an MS Windows hard drive is very risky and
> can easily lose data or render the PC unbootable with Windows.
> Unfortunately, Windows OSs (2K, XP, Vista) were implemented under the
> assumption that Microsoft products are the only OSs anyone might have
> running on a PC. They don't really even play well with each other.
>
> You can download the Windows version of VMware and get as many
> installation keys for your students as you need. I'd do a complete Ubuntu
> installation under VMware with all the software you need for the class. You
> can zip up (Windows utility) the files that make up the Ubuntu virtual
> machine files and burn them to a DVD. The virtual machine files can be
> unzipped and run on any PC with VMware installed.
>
> If you are interested in this approach, I can give you detailed,
> step-by-step, instructions. For years, I've been using this approach for
> testing Linux software on Linux and Windows hosts because you cannot screw
> up the host from inside a virtual machine and you can take snapshots of
> virtual machines and restore them to their pre-test state if there are
> problems. A Ubuntu virtual machine can have full network access and can
> apply any standard Ubuntu updates as needed.
>
> Regards,
> Dick Dowdell
>
>
> On 10/16/07, Brian Fahrlander <brian at fahrlander.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, for the first time in literally years, a break appears: if I
> > can write a how-to on setting up an "Introduction to Linux" class, the
> > local college will PAY me to do it. Teaching...getting paid...two
> > things I thought I wouldn't really see again... :>
> >
> > Technical questions: ('cause this is that list)
> >
> > They have all Windows boxes; probably 2k3 or XP. Vista, if they
> > hurt someone in a past life...it is enough to have them resize, say, 5G
> > of their drives to install Linux? How tough is that? (I've not
> > maintained Windows this century...)
> >
> > Is it possible to hand out "Live" CDs and do anything meaningful on
> >
> > them, like learning spreadsheets, word processing, etc? I'm assuming
> > any school work would have to connect to a shared-space, someplace...
> >
> > Are there other low-cost ways to present Linux to a room full of
> > students, easily? (I'm aware of LTSP; I'm also aware of netbooting
> > having changed drastically since I used it...but I love the idea)
> >
> > If we can get this class going, there's a good chance of exposure!
> > (And I stay out of child-support prison...)
> > --
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and
> > Technomad
> > Evansville, IN
> > http://Fahrlander.net/brian
> > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk:
> > WheelDweller
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dick Dowdell
> 508-498-7919/508-528-4018
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Regards,
Dick Dowdell
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