Gutsy Feedback

NoOp glgxg at sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 4 19:40:57 UTC 2007


On 10/04/2007 10:47 AM, Jack Bowling wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:33:54PM -0700, NoOp wrote:

>> > Glad it worked for you. I spent yesterday upgrading my test server
>> > (w/desktop) & that took all day. Upgrading a laptop today & even with
>> > the alternate CD it's 6 hours in (4 to do from CD with dependency
>> > complaints all through the process & 2 hours for it to fetch another 442
>> > partial updates, etc., etc.).
>> 
>> And another 3 hours later it's still trying to figure out which crash
>> report to process first. Note: this is/was a pretty simple & very well
>> working system that went from dapper to edgy to fiesty.
>>
> 
> The method that worked best for me installing Gutsy on my laptop was to
> use the Alternate CD, install a minimal system, then install ubuntu-desktop
> and drag everything else in. Worked like a champ.
> 
> Jack 
> 

Right... but that's a new install. Upgrading shouldn't be a multi-day
affair (even with beta code).

Today's updates were interesting... seems that Gutsy is attempting to be
the Vista of the linux world. Updates to cups-pdf resulted in not being
able to print to PDF at all. 2 hours later & lots of googling I find
that there is now a program installed by default called AppArmor. Seems
that this is a Novell/SUSE program that is supposed to associate a
security profile for each program.

http://www.novell.com/linux/security/apparmor/

Turns out that someone forgot to tell this new improved security sentry
about cups-pdf. So now to need to fiddle with the settings in _both_
/etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf *and* the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd file!

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-pdf/+bug/147551
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-pdf/+bug/134682
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/131470

Apparmor can be removed of course (done on all of my machines for now &
cups-pdf works again), but the fact of installing this stuff on Gutsy by
default just seems nuts. I'm sure that apparmor has it's place & is
probably a good program overall, but...





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