Fwd: Re: Opera Browser not Friendly To Old EYes

Sat Jun 23 15:26:45 UTC 2007

--- Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Opera Browser not Friendly To Old EYes
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> 
> > On 2007/06/23 03:39 (GMT-0400) Leonard Chatagnier
> > apparently typed:
> > 
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > 
> > >  On 2007/06/22 16:11 (GMT-0700) Leonard
> Chatagnier
> > apparently typed:
> > 
> > >> Just had to download, try out Opera Browser.
> Very
> > >> small menu print just kills my 70 yr. old eyes.
> 
> > I
> > >> couldn't read it with a magnifing glass it's so
> > small.
> > >>  Therefore setting it up is impossible for me.
> I
> > can
> > >> adjust the uri print size easily enough to read
> > it but
> > >> not the drop down menus.  Is it possible to
> > adjust the
> > >> drop down menu print size and how do you do it?
> > These
> > >> old eyes thank you for any help.
> > 
> > > Opera is really dumb in this regard. So, with
> > Opera
> > > closed, find $HOME/.opera/opera6.ini and add
> > somewhere
> > > under [User Prefs] and before [State] the
> > following:
> > 
> > > Force DPI=120
> > 
> > > Reopen Opera to test. If still too small, try
> > again
> > > with a bigger number. Multiples of 12 seem to
> work
> > > best, with 96 preferred for compatibility with
> > some
> > > web sites that set fonts in absolute sizes.
> > > But before tweaking, you should go into its
> prefs
> > and
> > > set the UI fonts much bigger. Ideally Opera
> should
> > run
> > > as everything else in X, so check the XServer
> > output
> > > in KControl or whatever its equivalent
> > > is if you run Gnome. 'xdpyinfo | grep dpi' from
> an
> > X
> > > terminal will provide that information too. If
> you
> > > take Firefox or Epiphany to
> > >
> >
> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/dpi-screen-window.html
> > > you should see
> > > reported the greater of the DPI X is using or
> 96.
> > > Whatever that is is what you want Opera to
> report
> > as
> > > well. Once you've done this DPI matching it's
> time
> > to
> > > go back into Opera's prefs to perform your
> > > final UI font size tweak.
> > 
> > > Thanks Felix for this good info.  I couldn't get
> 
> > > 'xdpyinfo | grep dpi' to work from Xterminal or
> > > konsole with or without sudo; just got the usual
> > 
> > I screwed this up. I should have written:
> 'xdpyinfo
> > | grep resolution'
> > 
> > > cursor return.  Could not find anything in
> > kcontrol
> > > regarding Xserver output or anything remotely
> > > related.  I must be missing something.
> > 
> > I screwed this up too. KInfoCenter, not Kcontrol
> > shows this information.
> > 
> > > Visited the reference uri with Opera and my
> other
> > > browsers.  The others all had 96 dpi but Opera
> had
> > > something like 20px and the image measured
> 1-7/8"
> > > instead or 1". Other browsers had 96 dpi and
> > measured
> > > 1".  After playing around with fonts & sizes in
> > > preferences the dpi stayed at 120 but the image
> > > reduced to 175".  So, to make all have the same
> 96
> > dpi
> > > changed the opera6.ini to "Force DPI=96 but the
> > dpi
> > > screen uri stilled showed 120 dpi.  Closed Opera
> > again
> > > and closed out X(KDE) and restarted.  The test
> > page
> > > still showed 120 dpi, measured 1.75" and the UA
> > > default font size showed 24 px.  I must be doing
> > > something wrong.  How do I get the Opera dpi to
> > read
> > > 96?  The dropdowns are still readable and I have
> > no
> > > trouble picking a font and setting size, bold,
> > etc.
> > > from the preferences.  Further help needed.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the comeback.
> 
> > I really don't know what's going on to cause your
> > Opera to get stuck at 120, but I suggest closing
> > Opera completely, then renaming ~/.opera6.ini to
> > something else or deleting ~/.opera/opera*ini*,
> then
> > starting Opera again. You'll find that resets all
> > Opera settings to their defaults, and it should
> > cause the URL's DPI report to be 96. If this
> resets
> > the Opera UI to too tiny for you to manage to
> > change font sizes via preferences I suggest a
> > temporary lowering of screen resolution via
> > Ctrl-Alt-- or the KRandRTray screen adjustment
> > applet or using the KMag screen magnifier on the
> > pref panel.
> > 
> 
> mving the ~/.opera6.ini file did the trick. Now
> getting 96 dpi and the browser looks just like the
> others after resetting the default font size in the
> Advance setting to 20 px.  It's really nice to be
> able
> to read everything including the menus.  Thanks a
> lot.
> 
> > BTW, what is your screen resolution and display
> > size? Which *buntu are you using? Which Opera are
> > you using, and from what source?
> > 
> 
> I use 1028 x 768 on an HP M50 15" monitor.  I have a
Ubuntu Feisty live CD install with
Kububtu-desktop(prefer kde to gnome).  Opera version
is 9.21 build 641, 9.21-20070510.6ubuntu2, latest
avail. Repo "http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free"
is in my sources.list and got it from someone on the
list.  If there is a Ubuntu prefered  repo for Opera,
that's the one I would want.
Ooops, acidently hit send while looking up some of the
answere.  Sorry for the double post.

> > I just installed the Opera .deb from Opera's
> > download site on a fresh Feisty install running
> > 1280x960. It reports 96 DPI, but only after
> several
> > reloads. :-p KInfoCenter and Firefox also report
> 96
> > DPI.
> 
Checked opera site myself and saw the edgy and feisty
are the same download and if I'm not mistaken deb etch
is same as edgy.  Opera now looks as good as the other
installed browsers, firefox, swiftfox and seamonkeu so
I'm happy.  But if there is a prefered ubuntu repo to
use or something else you think I should do please let
me know. I did have some extreme difficulty with the
Seamonkey install even with some great help.
Your help is most appreciated as is all the other kind
people on the Ubuntu list.


Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net