Postfix and aliases

[Gary Hodges]

On 1/8/07, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2007 15:32, Gary Hodges wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply.
> >
> > On 1/8/07, John Mark Walker <johnmark at johnmark.org> wrote:
>
> > > On 1/8/07, Gary Hodges <fsunoles at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Kubuntu 6.10 AMD64
> > > >
> > > > I have the following in /etc/aliases
> > > >
> > > > testalias:      valid.address at address.com
> > > >
> > > > If I issue the command:
> > > > <nail -s "subject" -r valid.address at address.com testalias>
> > > > and then send the mail it bounces on recipient testalias at address.com
> > > >
> > > > The following works:
> > > > <nail -s "subject" valid.address at address.com>
> > > >
> > > > I've run "sudo newaliases"
> > > >
> > > > >sudo postconf -d | grep aliases
> > > >
> > > > alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
> > > > alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases
> > > > newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases
> > > >
> > > Are you sure your /etc/aliases.db and /etc/aliases files have the same
> > > data?
> > >
> > > "ls -l /etc/aliases*"
> > >
> > > I know you ran newaliases, but it doesn't hurt to make sure the
> > > changes "took". Look at the date stamp on those files.
> >
> > ~>ls -l /etc/aliases*
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   338 2007-01-08 12:54 /etc/aliases
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12288 2007-01-08 13:19 /etc/aliases.db
> >
> > > Also, instead of grepping for "aliases" try grepping for just "alias"
> > > and see what "allow_mail_to_commands" and "allow_mail_to_files" are
> > > set to.
> >
> > ~>sudo postconf -d | grep alias
> > alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
> > alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases
> > allow_mail_to_commands = alias, forward
> > allow_mail_to_files = alias, forward
> >
> > > And finally, if you don't include the "-r <mail address>" in your mail
> > > command, does it still not work? Have you tried other methods of
> > > sending mail to your alias address? It's been awhile since I really
> > > looked into the "mail" command, so I can't recall what "-r" means -
> > > reply-to?
> >
> > The -r sets the reply-to address as you guessed.  If I leave it out I
> > get nothing.  I'm setting the reply-to address to my regular work
> > address and that is how I see the bounce.  If I run Mail locally it
> > says I have no mail.  I've tried Mail, mail and nail to send to the
> > alias address with no luck.
> >
> > Best my lay person self can gather, it doesn't appear the alias
> > address (the key) is being resolved to the real address (the value).
> >
> > Another clue?  If simply mail myself on the local machine I don't get
> > a mail, but if I mail a valid outside address it works.
>
> The answer almost certainly lies in your logs.  Please send the full
> postconf -n (if you anonymize information, please make it clear where you are
> doing so) and relevant entries from /var/log/mail.log to the list and I'll
> help you figure it out.

Thank you for your willingness to dig into this.  FWIW, this is a
generic AMD64 install so maybe there is a config bug somewhere.

~>sudo postconf -n
Password:
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = no
biff = no
config_directory = /etc/postfix
inet_interfaces = all
inet_protocols = all
mailbox_size_limit = 0
mydestination = space, localhost.localdomain, , localhost
myhostname = space
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
myorigin = /etc/mailname
recipient_delimiter = +
relayhost =
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu)
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtpd_use_tls = yes

/var/log/mail.log output of an attempt to send to an alias.
"~>nail -s "subject"  testalias"
I changed the username and name of the machine.

Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/pickup[8236]: 17F7C54961: uid=1000 from=<gary>
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/cleanup[8278]: 17F7C54961:
message-id=<20070108231740.17F7C54961 at foo>
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/qmgr[5146]: 17F7C54961:
from=<gary at foo.srrb.noaa.gov>, size=421, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/smtp[8280]: 17F7C54961:
to=<testalias at foo.srrb.noaa.gov>, orig_to=<testalias>, relay=none,
delay=0.01, delays=0.01/0/0/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for
foo.srrb.noaa.gov loops back to myself)
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/cleanup[8278]: 1B18954962:
message-id=<20070108231740.1B18954962 at foo>
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/qmgr[5146]: 1B18954962: from=<>,
size=2174, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/bounce[8281]: 17F7C54961: sender
non-delivery notification: 1B18954962
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/qmgr[5146]: 17F7C54961: removed
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/smtp[8280]: 1B18954962:
to=<gary at foo.srrb.noaa.gov>, relay=none, delay=0.01, delays=0/0/0/0,
dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for foo.srrb.noaa.gov loops back to
myself)
Jan  8 16:17:40 foo postfix/qmgr[5146]: 1B18954962: removed