Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba)

[Scott Kitterman]

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:37:20 -0500 John Dangler <jdangler at atlantic.net> 
wrote:
>On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 06:10 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote:
>> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote:
>> > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories
>> > -- it's such a useful program. 
>> 
>> "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I
>> was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software
>> so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it,
>> not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the
>> ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was killed."
>> 
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html
>> 
>> 
>So, since webmin is obviously _not_ the developers/maintainers choice,
>what is/are the alternative(s) ?
>One alternative that I tried was ISPConfig (under Breezxy).  ISPConfig
>is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on
>Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things).
>
>So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest?

The standard answer to this question on the postfix-users is don't.  These 
are complex systems and by using such tools you will not develop a 
sufficiently deep understanding of how they work and how to operate them.

I'm inclined to agree.

Scott K