Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba)

[Gabriel Dragffy]

Eric Dunbar wrote:
> On 04/02/07, Gabriel Dragffy <dragffy at yandex.ru> wrote:
>> Eric Dunbar wrote:
>>> On 03/02/07, Peter Garrett <peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500
>>>> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" <jbloss at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu
>>>>>> repositories?
>>>>> Don't have a clue. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose
>>>>> it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly.
>>>> My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no
>>>> longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief
>>>> on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-)
>>> So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu?
>>>
>>>> I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some
>>>> criticism of Webmin IIRC... </understatement>
>>> Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e.
>>> non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a
>>> central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)?
>>>
>>   but the latest version of webmin is available on their website in a
>> .deb package.. what's the big deal? Go and download that and install
>> with gdebi, dpkg or whatever.
> 
> No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I
> honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of
> .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point
> I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly
> relied on Synaptic ;-)).
> 
> What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories
> -- it's such a useful program.
> 
> Anyway, I was merely picking people's brains to see what they thought.
> You've made me curious about the FC tools so I'll check those out in
> VMware when I get my WIndows-Ubuntu dual boot working and ready to go
> for serving.
> 
> I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the
> whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current
> server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years.
> 
> I now figure I should put a little more thought into this one ;-)
> (Last time round, 2 GB for my System 9 BootX boot loader ( should've
> been 50 MB), 25 GB for OS X 10.2 (for the hell of it), 8 GB for /  and
> 35 GB for /home... I eventually formatted the OS X partition and
> symlinked it to a specific directory in /home because I ran out of
> room on /home... probably could've done it more elegantly but it works
> ;-).
> 

I think that the Ubuntu maintainer couldn't be bothered to maintain an 
ubuntu package when the latest, cutting edge was always available on the 
webmin site. Also the Ubuntu people hated webmin with a vengeance, it 
has since gone.

This is going a bit off-topic now with partitioning......
If you are setting up partitions for linux, you'd be crazy not to go 
with LVM, you can increase the size of logical volumes online, and 
shrink them offline. All the problems that you say you encountered are 
solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: 
100MB primary partition for /boot
10GB primary partition for OS X
all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and 
other distros too.