From m.stanziano at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 00:37:16 2007 From: m.stanziano at gmail.com (Michael Stanziano) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:37:16 -0500 Subject: Super Key w/ iMac Keyboard Message-ID: <5bc6eb750701311637j45e9ac49la8754d177d7fc016@mail.gmail.com> Greetings all! For some reason the Apple/Command key on my iMac keyboard is not recognized by System->Keyboard Shortcuts or, more importantly, Compiz Config, for use as the key. Anyone happen to know how to get it recognized? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Thu Feb 1 01:03:27 2007 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:03:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Diamond Stealth support? Message-ID: <418027.30125.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Huub wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed an old Pentium III pc with vs. 5.10 for a friend. > Unfortunately, this pc has an old Diamond Stealth Video 2500 pci-card > (add-on, not onboard). The auto-selected video-resolution is either > 800x600 or 640x480. I adjusted /etc/X11/xorg.conf so the desired > 1024x768 would be selected, but I also noticed that the driver has been > set to "Generic VGA Card". After replacing this with "Diamond Stealth > Video 2500", X crashed. On the internet I found old postings that it > should work, but apparently it doesn't anymore. > Apart from find an old supported pci videocard (very hard to find these > days), is there an easy solution like a setting? Obviously, I don't want > him to go to WinXP. > > Thanks for helping. > > Huub > > > I have the same card on an older computer but I can't get it to work with any newer linux distro(post 2004) up to what I want it to. The best thing it ever worked under was win98. Brandon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Thu Feb 1 01:17:18 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:17:18 -0800 Subject: Firewall question References: <45C08293.9070007@uni-graz.at> <87sldr9moj.fsf@fjellstad.org> <45C0F004.2040304@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <87lkjifzhd.fsf@fjellstad.org> Dieter Schicker writes: > John L Fjellstad wrote: >> >> Add a firewall rule to log the package >> > > Thanks. Well, that's the strange part: All firewall logs are turned on > but I get no DENY message. Nevertheless tomcat starts very slowly. > As I already said: When I deactivate the firewall everything works > perfectly. are you sure you LOGging before DENYing? for instance, if you rule set looks like this: DROP tcp -- anywhere anywhere state INVALID,NEW tcp dpt:ssh recent: UPDATE seconds: 60 name: DEFAULT side: source LOG 0 -- anywhere anywhere limit: avg 3/hour burst 5 LOG level warning nothing will be logged because the package is dropped before the LOG rule is used. If you change the order, then the package will be logged. I usually, when I can't figure out which rule triggers it, put a LOG rule as the first rule in INPUT and OUTPUT. Run your program, then stop the log (otherwise it will overwhelm you), and see what might be wrong. That's the only suggestion I can really come up with. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 1 02:39:40 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:39:40 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird and reply-to-list In-Reply-To: <45BFFE74.4070808@dmiyu.org> References: <45BEC7EB.6040200@dmiyu.org> <45BECE4B.1020501@grm.net> <45BED848.2040806@dmiyu.org> <20070130010223.59e79788@chisel> <45BEE273.7000605@dmiyu.org> <20070130014857.01778c69@chisel> <45BEF08E.2030800@dmiyu.org> <20070130025227.5341ed96@chisel> <45BF08F7.1000407@dmiyu.org> <20070130042912.61757eb5@chisel> <45BF14CC.8050300@dmiyu.org> <20070130083917.56ad91ae@chisel> <45BFFE74.4070808@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <20070131213940.02388556@chisel> Steve Lamb wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > So the answer is "no", the version in the Edgy repository isn't > > patched. > > Hmph... As a Ubuntu neophyte I'm not sure where to go from > here. Is there some place I can indicate my preference that the > package include that patch so the extension can work? It is really > the one wart in Thunderbird that really grates on me. Indeed. You're essentially diddling From headers for every post you make to certain lists. Been there, done that, not fun. Where to go... The obvious solution is to patch and compile TB yourself, but I can understand if you don't want to do that. I just a minute ago tried downloading the daily binary snapshot for TB v3.x, and it apparently doesn't work without being patched either (the option appears in the "Message" menu, but it's grayed out even when a mailing list reply is in view). :( If you want to play with it yourself (maybe I'm missing something), you can get the tarball from here... http://www.mozilla.org/developer/#builds Down at the bottom under "Nightly Builds". You can extract the archive to a folder in your $HOME, cd there, and run './thunderbird'. A pleasant surprise for me anyway, this version creates a ~/.thunderbird directory, so it doesn't hijack your existing TB settings and try to "update" them. Shouldn't break your existing configuration at least. Backups are of course prudent, so copy your ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and ~/.mozilla directories somewhere safe just in case. > > And running the risk of showing how new I am, I am surprised it > isn't patched already. I am under the impression that Ubuntu is a > Debian derivative and the Debian package has had Thunderbird so > patched for at least 6 months now. > Derivative being the keyword. ;) I'd say the wisdom of applying every ergonomic patch available before it's fully tested is... debatable. Six one way half a dozen the other in this case I suppose, but I do see the logic behind waiting as a matter of policy. -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A server install of Ubuntu, installed INTO a virtual > > machine (called, VMServer). > > > > VMServer will contain the server components for my file and internet > > server (apache, samba, Apple file sharing). Both XPServer and Server > > will be used to run the VMServer. > > > > The computer (P4 2GHz 512 MB RAM) could be used to run the VMServer > > with a 99.9% uptime (only downtime really should be between restarts). > > When in XPServer, I'd like "VMware Player" to run VMServer. When in > > Server, I'd like the Ubuntu "VM... whatever player"[1] to run it. > > > > [1] At the moment I have many things on my plate so I'm doing my best > > NOT to touch the P4 to set it up as a server (I just got it... I > > "needed" (wanted) a new toy). > > > >> If yes, the second option seems more interesting for your use. > >> > >>> Question 1: can the Windows VMware Player run VMs created under Ubuntu > >>> using the Ubuntu VMware? > >> VMs config files are Independant from the OS used to create them so you > >> shouldn't have any problem. > >> > >>> Question 2: is it safe (as in data corruption/recovery) to keep my > >>> shared files on a virtual disk (separate from the Ubuntu server > >>> virtual machine)? > >> Well, what I suggest is create a *real* partition on Server that will > >> keep your files. Then add a new virtual disk on VMServer that will point > >> the partition out. So that you'll access that partition even if VMServer > >> is not running. BUT be careful not to access that partition form > >> VMServer and Server at the same time. Don't even access it when VMServer > >> is running. > > > > Weren't you writing that accessing a partition from the virtual > > machine was still experimental and not recommended? > > It is not recommended to run a true installed OS via VMware. The problem > with that is the Boot Record can be corrupted when lauching the VM. But > it shouldn't be a problem if it's a data partition. Ok, I'll take that into consideration. I've done a bit of digging on the web for VMware for Ubuntu and haven't found any evidence that it's available in one of the repositories -- is that correct? If so, I suppose I'll have to build it using some of the links ("My Ubuntu Installation" seems good) that I found with a google for 'vmware ubuntu repository' (no quotes). From custom at freenet.de Thu Feb 1 04:07:36 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:07:36 +0700 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On a somewhat related note, I'm having a lot of success running Windows in a window under Ubuntu without the need to install any virtualization server (such as VMWare) first. It's called VirtualBox. (www.virtualbox.org). There's a package for Ubuntu, you just install it. So you don't have to make any changes to your Ubuntu installation. It just opens up as an application. Then you can easily create virtual disks (disk-files, which can be located anywhere) and install Windows (any kind) on it. This works very, very, very, very nice. The virtual windows box is networked through virtual NAT to your host Ubuntu installation and everything just works.. My Ubuntu PC is on a LAN that includes windows computers, printers, etc. and the virtual PC just thinks it's on that same network.. Installing the printer was just the same as if it were a real Windows system wired directly to the LAN. Also things like Citrix GoToMyPC works.. (This doesn't run under Ubuntu), so I can now approach PC's anywhere in the worled with GotoMyPC through that virtual box under Ubuntu. Finally, VirtualBox can SERVE a Remote Desktop (RDP) version of a virtual Windows PC as if it was an actual Windows Terminal Server (or Citrix server) serving up a PC.. I don't have that bit working myself yet, but that's in INCREDIBLE feature.. As long as you plug enough memory into an Ubuntu box, it can serve up multiple, separate virtual PC's through Remote Desktop. VirtualBox is now open source (part of it) but also the version with the cool RDP features is free (free with a small 'f') :) Note: You absolutely need to be running the default linux-generic kernel (default in Edgy), NOT linux-386 or linux-686 et al) Cheers, Chanchao From grey at dmiyu.org Thu Feb 1 04:32:49 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:32:49 -0800 Subject: Thunderbird and reply-to-list In-Reply-To: <20070131213940.02388556@chisel> References: <45BEC7EB.6040200@dmiyu.org> <45BECE4B.1020501@grm.net> <45BED848.2040806@dmiyu.org> <20070130010223.59e79788@chisel> <45BEE273.7000605@dmiyu.org> <20070130014857.01778c69@chisel> <45BEF08E.2030800@dmiyu.org> <20070130025227.5341ed96@chisel> <45BF08F7.1000407@dmiyu.org> <20070130042912.61757eb5@chisel> <45BF14CC.8050300@dmiyu.org> <20070130083917.56ad91ae@chisel> <45BFFE74.4070808@dmiyu.org> <20070131213940.02388556@chisel> Message-ID: <45C16D71.3040403@dmiyu.org> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > The obvious solution is to patch and compile TB yourself, but I can > understand if you don't want to do that. Yup. I've tried earnestly to leave such processes back in my Slackware days. :) > Down at the bottom under "Nightly Builds". You can extract the archive > to a folder in your $HOME, cd there, and run './thunderbird'. I'll give that a try, thanks. :) > Derivative being the keyword. ;) Well, that impression was they used the Debian packages and only touched it up for release, not a complete fork as appears to be the case. > I'd say the wisdom of applying every > ergonomic patch available before it's fully tested is... debatable. Six > one way half a dozen the other in this case I suppose, but I do see > the logic behind waiting as a matter of policy. I agree with you completely. However in my, and Debian's defense, Thunderbird's lack of reply-to-list is the number 1 wart discussed on debian-user. Debian's lists do not set reply-to so about every 20-30 days some new Debian user comes onto the list and starts the old reply-to debate. No matter which side of the fence you come down on that debate one thing is irrefutable. Of the email clients regularly in use by Debian users Thunderbird is the only client which lacks that feature. It has lacked it its entire life and there are bugs filed against it pretty much just as old to get it fixed. The patch in question only makes the extension possible and I think it was in general release and used by many Debian users for quite a while before the maintainer of Thunderbird proper started patching it into the package. So a small patch that was requested and endorsed by many different users with, by their estimation, no negative impacts which addressed one of the largest complaints about the client on the user list. I think that is a good definition of the exception to the general rule. :) Anyway, off to try the nightly build. 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Nikolai From david at kosmosisland.com Thu Feb 1 05:11:33 2007 From: david at kosmosisland.com (David Koski) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:11:33 -0800 Subject: spamd daemon In-Reply-To: <20070201145440.50ada103@picasso> References: <20070201145440.50ada103@picasso> Message-ID: <200701312111.33296.david@kosmosisland.com> Have a look at: /etc/default/spamassassin David On Wednesday 31 January 2007 20:54, Nikolai wrote: > Hi all, just need some help with spamd daemon. > > I installed SpamAssassin to be used with Claws Mail but the spamd > daemon doesn't start unless I start it manually with "sudo spamd" and > without the spamd daemon running, Claws Mail can't use SpamAssassin > plugin. > Any ideas how I can make spamd daemon run on boot? > Thanks. > > Nikolai From ynd at lntenc.com Thu Feb 1 05:43:23 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:13:23 +0530 Subject: running windows via kvm module -- any experiences? Message-ID: Len; Convincing a girlfriend to use LINUX is the tough part of the job. While running M$ applications there are many ways. I do not have experience of KVM while still I have found that "wine" is now really matured to give you seamless running of windows application. (.NET support is yet an issue here) While you can check the "crossover" a paid wine implementation for better support. I checked out in their compatibility section MSOffice is supported Dreamweaver MX works Dreamweaver MX 2004 does not work. & endnote works perfectly you can check link http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=14to see even the screenshot. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 06:19:25 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:19:25 +0800 Subject: running windows via kvm module -- any experiences? In-Reply-To: <200701310322.l0V3LuAP005592@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> References: <1170198365.6784.18.camel@localhost> <200701310322.l0V3LuAP005592@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: On 1/31/07, Trevor Nye wrote: > > I have found "open office" to be more or less the same as office 2003 a > little behind office 2007 but still a good product. It's free so install > it > and let her play. It runs well in windows also. > > HTH Hopefully OpenOffice would snuck some ideas out of Office 2007. The OpenOffice are getting better and they gotten alot of improvements over the past releases. They learnt alot about UI's and how the Office applications should looked like, OR stick with their HIG originality if it's much better. 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URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 06:47:55 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:47:55 +0100 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0701311958x5eed1149h89fc5dfc32070a15@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <45C0F1E5.6040902@gmail.com> <77520bee0701311218h6fa29f39kde1cf7af68efa672@mail.gmail.com> <45C0FCF2.1030807@gmail.com> <77520bee0701311958x5eed1149h89fc5dfc32070a15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C18D1B.70700@gmail.com> > Ok, I'll take that into consideration. I've done a bit of digging on > the web for VMware for Ubuntu and haven't found any evidence that it's > available in one of the repositories -- is that correct? > VMware player is in Multivere. (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu to know how to activate it) > If so, I suppose I'll have to build it using some of the links ("My > Ubuntu Installation" seems good) that I found with a google for > 'vmware ubuntu repository' (no quotes). I guess the one you want to run under Ubuntu is VMware server. If so, you must download it from here http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ . and register here http://register.vmware.com/content/registration.html for your free serial number. (that should be an interesting link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server) After the donwload, untar the file on a partition that can handle links. (FAT32 can't) . From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Feb 1 06:52:18 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:52:18 +0100 Subject: mythtv how-to In-Reply-To: <1170281676.1487.1.camel@keng50-desktop> References: <1170274297.30284.3.camel@keng50-desktop> <45C10623.7010307@sjoeboo.com> <1170281676.1487.1.camel@keng50-desktop> Message-ID: <45C18E22.4060404@welcomes-you.com> ken gross wrote: > thanks for the reply, i have done that before, but when i try to > configure, i keep getting the blue screen every time....think i may be > missing a step? (1) What kind of blue screen? (2) Have you installed the ivtv kernel modules? (3) Have you checked the log files? (/var/log/myth*) (4) Are you using the prepackaged binaries (.deb files) or are you compiling from scratch? (5) What is the output of the started programs? (6) Need .... more .... info :) Carsten From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 1 06:55:04 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:55:04 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends Message-ID: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd expect some level of key manager and I want to be able to encrypt / sign clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any thoughts about which might be a better choice? Also, I'd expect that if I tried GPA, for example. then uninstalled it and tried seahorse, keyrings etc would be there as soon as installed, both should be looking for the standard GnuPG file locations, right? Any other thoughts before I get started? Thanks From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 07:41:18 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:41:18 +0100 Subject: apt: 'BROKEN package' In-Reply-To: <1170273167.4977.276.camel@chronic> References: <45C0EF8C.8030107@gmail.com> <1170273167.4977.276.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45C1999E.7060007@gmail.com> Hi again, Mario Vukelic schrieb: > Try to prepend LANGUAGE=en_US:en before the command line to receive > english output. > This sets English for just this one command, and I'm sure more people > would be able and willing to help. > Didn't know that, thanks for the tip! So here is the english output: schoepke at schoepke-laptop:~$ LANGUAGE=en_US:en sudo apt-get install nautilus-dbgsym Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus-dbgsym: Depends: nautilus (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu3) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages schoepke at schoepke-laptop:~$ LANGUAGE=en_US:en sudo apt-get install -f nautilus-dbgsym Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus-dbgsym: Depends: nautilus (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu3) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages schoepke at schoepke-laptop:~$ As you can see, the -f option makes no difference... Where could the problem lie? Is something wrong with the repo? Or is it a fault on my side? cheers, Severin From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 1 08:36:31 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 03:36:31 -0500 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070201033631.30c7c9c7@chisel> Patton Echols wrote: > It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for > GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more > full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd expect > some level of key manager and I want to be able to encrypt / sign > clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any thoughts about > which might be a better choice? I've probably tried every front end there is on both Windows and Linux boxen. I'm currently using GPA for what little GUI gpg stuff I do. It lacks any clipboard functionality, but I have vim scripts for that. It's a good, solid kayring manager with Keyserver and file encrypt/decrypt support. It also has outstanding support for viewing information about keys, sub keys, signatures, and such. The thing I disliked about Seahorse is its implementation of ssh/gpg-agent. On two systems now I've had to manually seek and destroy all agent settings because they conflict with the GnuPG "standard" way of doing things. I typically have both the stable and development branches of GnuPG installed though, and 2.x installs an agent by default. The other front end you may want to look at is Kgpg. It's KDE, but runs fine under Gnome complete with the little "task bar" applet that gives you left click access just like PGP itself or WinPT. The only thing I really had any issues with was it's built in editor. It had little quirks like not being able to properly ID signed text unless the 'BEGIN' header was the first line on the page. I believe that was true for the clipboard function too. You couldn't CTRL+A, CTRL+C to get text to the clipboard much of the time, you had to be more selective. On the plus side, Kgpg can install a pretty "billy goat" icon on your desktop that you can drag files to have have them shredded. ;) DISCLAIMER: Above gripes based on months+ old data. Things may have changed, been fixed, etc. > > Also, I'd expect that if I tried GPA, for example. then uninstalled > it and tried seahorse, keyrings etc would be there as soon as > installed, both should be looking for the standard GnuPG file > locations, right? GPA in particular is unobtrusive (another reason I like it). Seahorse and Kgpg will diddle your gpg.config and/or other related configuration files if you let them. If I remember correctly, Seahorse even installed a second set of config files all for itself and went after my .bashrc, which only made the problems with agent more perplexing. But none of them has ever eaten my keys. You should have backups in any case. And if you do start checking out front ends you should definitely back up your configuration files. A standard gpg.conf isn't rocket science, but it will make your life easier if something changes a setting you later realize you want set back or, eliminated. Bottom line... it's probably going to be a matter of personal preference in the end. I'd just go ahead and start with the one that looked like it did everything I wanted. And there's really no reason you can't have multiple front ends installed if you pay attention to how they interact with your .conf files. Especially Seahorse. ;) -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 1 09:18:08 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:18:08 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird and reply-to-list In-Reply-To: <45C16D71.3040403@dmiyu.org> References: <45BEC7EB.6040200@dmiyu.org> <45BECE4B.1020501@grm.net> <45BED848.2040806@dmiyu.org> <20070130010223.59e79788@chisel> <45BEE273.7000605@dmiyu.org> <20070130014857.01778c69@chisel> <45BEF08E.2030800@dmiyu.org> <20070130025227.5341ed96@chisel> <45BF08F7.1000407@dmiyu.org> <20070130042912.61757eb5@chisel> <45BF14CC.8050300@dmiyu.org> <20070130083917.56ad91ae@chisel> <45BFFE74.4070808@dmiyu.org> <20070131213940.02388556@chisel> <45C16D71.3040403@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <20070201041808.35886ba6@chisel> Steve Lamb wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > The obvious solution is to patch and compile TB yourself, but I can > > understand if you don't want to do that. > > Yup. I've tried earnestly to leave such processes back in my > Slackware days. :) I hear ya'. Use to do a lot more ./configure && make myself. When I Migrated to Ubuntu I decided to knock that back to Claws, nmap, and the development branch of GnuPG. It's tough after years and years of compiling most everything, but I'm resisting those urges pretty well. ;) > > Down at the bottom under "Nightly Builds". You can extract the > > archive to a folder in your $HOME, cd there, and run > > './thunderbird'. > > I'll give that a try, thanks. :) Indeed. Let me know how it works out. Like I said I didn't invest a whole lot of time in trying to solve the problem here. I don't really use TBird, I just have it around for reference. And I knew from experience the "manual install" was an option. Gotta love Mozilla for that. Firefox is the same way. So is Nvu/Kompozer and most of that "chrome" stuff. Just "unzip and go". But mind your configs... > > > Derivative being the keyword. ;) > > Well, that impression was they used the Debian packages and only > touched it up for release, not a complete fork as appears to be the > case. Yeah, I think in some cases there's a little more separation than others. But my gut feeling is more towards fork than not, regardless of what the manual says. > > I'd say the wisdom of applying every > > ergonomic patch available before it's fully tested is... debatable. > > Six one way half a dozen the other in this case I suppose, but I do > > see the logic behind waiting as a matter of policy. > > I agree with you completely. However in my, and Debian's defense, > Thunderbird's lack of reply-to-list is the number 1 wart discussed on > debian-user. Debian's lists do not set reply-to so about every 20-30 > days some new Debian user comes onto the list and starts the old > reply-to debate. Ahhhhh ... so that's where the Reply-To religious zealots hang out. Never been there, most of the lists I hang out at are security and encryption oriented, but it makes sense now. > No matter which side of the fence you come down on that debate > one thing is irrefutable. Of the email clients regularly in use by > Debian users Thunderbird is the only client which lacks that > feature. It has lacked it its entire life and there are bugs filed I agree. In fact I'm a little shocked to see it. And the idea that you have to patch just to get an already existing plugin to work really floors me. I was under the impression that Thunderbird was a main stream for-the-masses email client, and here it's more of a gear head's toy than my beloved bleeding edge version of Claws-Mail. I may have to switch after all. -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From systemansvarlig at vagaungdomsskule.no Thu Feb 1 09:38:51 2007 From: systemansvarlig at vagaungdomsskule.no (Erling Ringen Elvsrud) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:38:51 +0100 Subject: Automatic updates of 100-200 of Ubuntu workstations Message-ID: <1170322732.16184.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Scenario: 100-200 Ubuntu workstations, about 50/50 laptops / desktops. Most of them used by several people. My thoughts: - A local package mirror (with apt-mirror or something) - Test updates on a spare workstation before the updates are available for the rest of the workstations. The X-server problem in Dapper last summer is one example why I want to test updates first. - With cron, a custom boot script or something like that run apt-get update/dist-upgrade, but is it possible to do this without any feedback at all from the user? Currently I just update all workstations 1-2 times a year when a new Ubuntu version is released. I would like to be able to easily perform security updates more frequently. Erling From bastill at adam.com.au Thu Feb 1 11:46:15 2007 From: bastill at adam.com.au (Brian Astill) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:16:15 +1030 Subject: Diamond Stealth support? In-Reply-To: <418027.30125.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <418027.30125.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200702012216.15776.bastill@adam.com.au> On Thursday 01 February 2007 11:33, Brandon Blackwell wrote: > I just installed an old Pentium III pc with vs. 5.10 > for a friend. The first thing I would try is installing Dapper (6.06) rather than Edgy because Edgy is, well, edgy. If you try that and you are still in trouble, let us know. I ran Breezy Badger and Hoary Hedgehog on a system near-identical to the one you describe with complete success. If you have either, I'd try them first. If OK, then try Dapper. (I think the _real_ trouble is the move from the old XF86Config to xorg.conf, especially for older systems). -- Regards, Brian From fmccormick at videotron.ca Thu Feb 1 13:24:59 2007 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:24:59 -0500 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:55:04 -0800 Patton Echols wrote: > It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for > GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more > full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd expect > some level of key manager and I want to be able to encrypt / sign > clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any thoughts about > which might be a better choice? > I can't speak for Seahorse but I run GPA and find it fills all my needs. But then all I need is signing/encryption of mail/ > Also, I'd expect that if I tried GPA, for example. then uninstalled > it and tried seahorse, keyrings etc would be there as soon as > installed, both should be looking for the standard GnuPG file > locations, right? I would ***think*** so . When I installed T'bird after setting up GPG for Sylpheed, when it came to GPG setup it found all it needed. Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFweorzWG7ldLG6fIRAq4MAKCXDSd9i5TOgoyWwt8MSV712s6ChACghjCT ubl0rkT3vuUXkWn9VudhaFI= =qOnw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andreas at tiddelipom.com Thu Feb 1 13:43:17 2007 From: andreas at tiddelipom.com (Andreas) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:43:17 +0100 Subject: Routing problem with openvpn and openswan Message-ID: <45C1EE75.40101@tiddelipom.com> Hi! I have a dapper-box which acts as a VPN-gateway to another office via OpenSwan, works like a charm. This dapper-box is also an OpenVPN-gateway to the office lan for our roadwarriors out in the world. It also works perfect. Now, our roadwarriors need to access a server on the remote office connected via the OpenSwan link. And that's my problem. I can't figure out how to route and nat the traffic from the openVPN link over to the OpenSwan link so they can reach the remote office. The office lan has ip range 10.30.0.0/24. Traffic from the roadwarriors comes in on tun0 and comes the 10.8.0.0/24 range. The remote office net has 10.31.116.0/24. eth0 = 10.30.0.253 (local office lan) eth1 = 1.2.3.4 (external address) tun0 = 10.8.0.1 (OpenVPN) remote office lan = 10.31.116.0/24 Openswan has leftsubnet=10.30.0.0/24 option set, so I'm guessing that I have to do some magic tricks to transform the OpenVPN traffic or something. Any clues? /Andreas From ynd at lntenc.com Thu Feb 1 14:34:04 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:04:04 +0530 Subject: Need email relaying howto Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 1 15:31:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:31:54 -0400 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: Chanchao wrote: > On a somewhat related note, I'm having a lot of success running Windows > in a window under Ubuntu without the need to install any virtualization > server (such as VMWare) first. > > It's called VirtualBox. (www.virtualbox.org). OK, maybe I didn't understand virtualbox, but how is that not installing virtualization software? As far as I can see, it's exactly the same sort of thing as vmware. I tried it a couple of days ago, and after it segafulted, decided to go with vmware-player. > There's a package for Ubuntu, you just install it. So you don't have to > make any changes to your Ubuntu installation. It just opens up as an > application. Same with vmware-player. > > Then you can easily create virtual disks (disk-files, which can be > located anywhere) and install Windows (any kind) on it. OK, that's a little harder since you need qemu (or vmware-workstation) to do it, though I think easyVMX might create it if you ask. > VirtualBox is now open source (part of it) but also the version with the > cool RDP features is free (free with a small 'f') :) >From your description, it doesn't do anything vmware-player doesn't do. How about hardware identification? The problem with vmware is that my Dell OEM XP key isn't valid for the virtual machine. Would virtualbox be different? -- derek From atouret.nospam at free.fr Thu Feb 1 16:38:57 2007 From: atouret.nospam at free.fr (Alexandre Touret) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:38:57 +0100 Subject: Support of wine under Feisty AMD64 Message-ID: <45C217A1.9000001@free.fr> Hello, I m looking for moving from debian etch AMD64 to ubuntu. Does the next version of ubuntu have a full support of wine in festy amd64? Currently in debian I have to use wine under a 32b chroot and wine is currently in unstable . Thanks in advance Regards, Alexandre From james-ubuntu at cummingsfamily.org.uk Thu Feb 1 16:51:17 2007 From: james-ubuntu at cummingsfamily.org.uk (James Cummings) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:51:17 +0000 Subject: Edgy Upgrade: Sound not working AC97 In-Reply-To: <80d985600701310145s3e1ef4ccie45af6a30cf3e7c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <39da2baa0701300613n58558d39ha42f1dc2f7f31f9a@mail.gmail.com> <80d985600701310145s3e1ef4ccie45af6a30cf3e7c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39da2baa0702010851t6306d673t1caa237b5807fc85@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/07, Craig Hagerman wrote: > Perhaps this is too obvious and you have already tried, but... > > A long time ago I had a problem with sound not working on a Debian box > and it turned out to be a simple matter of the correct audio channels > not being turned up. To check this out run alsamixer or alsamixergui > (type it in at the terminal) and try moving some of the channels up > and seeing if you get sound. Tried this, no luck. Just in case anyone else can help, here is the output of some things: $ lspci [...] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) [...] $ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH5 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0$ lsmod |grep snd snd_intel8x0 33436 2 snd_ac97_codec 96672 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_bus 2432 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_usb_audio 78880 1 snd_usb_lib 17536 1 snd_usb_audio snd_pcm_oss 46080 0 snd_mixer_oss 18560 4 snd_pcm_oss snd_rawmidi 25600 1 snd_usb_lib snd_seq_device 8972 1 snd_rawmidi snd_hwdep 9860 1 snd_usb_audio snd_pcm 80520 4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 23172 1 snd_pcm snd 55428 10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 9952 4 snd snd_page_alloc 10504 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm usbcore 130304 6 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd All levels are up, the correct device (ICH5) is selected, and everything is un-muted. Other suggestions? -- James Cummings, Cummings dot James at GMail dot com From ojaiguy at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 16:58:23 2007 From: ojaiguy at gmail.com (Carlos Picazzo) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:58:23 -0800 Subject: Is there an update to DST 2007 change? Message-ID: As someone posted a while back, Daylight Savings Time in the US has been changed and will take effect on 11 March, 2007 (see http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/daylight_time.html ). I've seen that you can download the updated data source but this is going to effect everyone in the US (and Canada?) so I am presuming there will need to be an update to 6.06 TLS at least. I didn't see anything about it in the forums and nothing really on this list. Is there something available yet or will there be soon? It's now less than 45 days away so I figure the sooner we start working on it, the better! :-) Cheers, Carlos From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Thu Feb 1 17:34:47 2007 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:34:47 +0100 Subject: Support of wine under Feisty AMD64 In-Reply-To: <45C217A1.9000001@free.fr> References: <45C217A1.9000001@free.fr> Message-ID: <45C224B7.8080308@kaiser-linux.li> Alexandre Touret wrote: > Hello, > I m looking for moving from debian etch AMD64 to ubuntu. > Does the next version of ubuntu have a full support of wine in festy > amd64? Currently in debian I have to use wine under a 32b chroot and > wine is currently in unstable . > > Thanks in advance > > Regards, > Alexandre I have Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) AMD64 version installed here and there is no wine package available. I only see a package libwine. If I try to install I get an error: thomas at AMD64:~$ sudo apt-get install libwine Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libwine: Depends: wine but it is not installable E: Broken packages Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl Thu Feb 1 17:39:27 2007 From: a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl (Bram Kuijper) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:39:27 +0100 Subject: installing ubuntu with philips dvd rw drive Message-ID: <45C225CF.2080902@rug.nl> Hi all, I try to install ubuntu 6.10 (alternate cd install) on a Intel E 6400 Core 2 duo box having a Philips DVD RW drive of the type 803DW1650. However, after the ubuntu cd has been booted and my keyboard has been detected, the installer complains that it cannot recognize the type of my dvd drive and that I need to load a floppy with an additional driver for my dvd drive. apparently, the dvd driver is too new to have any drivers associated with it (www.linux-drivers.org even hasn't got any driver for any Philips dvd drive). Is there any generic driver around which is not already on the ubuntu install cd that I could try? cheers, Bram From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Feb 1 21:04:28 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:04:28 +0100 Subject: apt: 'BROKEN package' In-Reply-To: <45C1999E.7060007@gmail.com> References: <45C0EF8C.8030107@gmail.com> <1170273167.4977.276.camel@chronic> <45C1999E.7060007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170363868.22467.3.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 08:41 +0100, Severin Schoepke wrote: > Where could the > problem lie? Is something wrong with the repo? Yeah, the output it gives is probably spot-on: "Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed." I'd recommend to file a bug against the package, even if you feel like you are going in circles. Before doing so you should however do a "apt-get update" and then try to install again, just in case the problem is already fixed From npauli at st-johns.org.uk Thu Feb 1 21:44:34 2007 From: npauli at st-johns.org.uk (N. Pauli) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:44:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: mythtv how-to Message-ID: Ken, There was an article not long back in [I think] Linux User - a British magazine. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning with a few more details. Nigel On Wed, 31 Jan, ken gross wrote: > i am looking for the easiest way to configure and use mythtv. i have > tried other how-to's, searched the ubuntu forum, and googled to death. > is there a step-by-step way of doing this, and getting it right the > first time? i am using ubuntu 6.10, with a haupage pvr150 card already > installed. thanks in advance for anyone who can help me. > > -- Nigel Pauli Network Manager St. John's School, Northwood From scamot2004 at gmx.at Thu Feb 1 22:25:45 2007 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:25:45 +0100 Subject: StudioDV Message-ID: <20070201232545.45b8e6fb@localhost> Hi all ! Just a simple question : has anyone ever used a Pinnacle StudioDV PCI card ? Id like to read my DV camcorder with KINO. Ive loaded the dv1394 and ieee1394 modules, prior to check whether the PCI card was detected or not in my lspci devices. But finally it looks like it is not recognised...?! Is there any solution ? Im running Dapper. Thanks ! seb seb at seb:~$ lspci 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8605 [ProSavage PM133] (rev 81) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8605 [PM133 AGP] 0000:00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 22) 0000:00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10) 0000:00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) 0000:00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) 0000:00:04.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30) 0000:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) 0000:00:0f.0 Communication controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp (w/Handset) Modem (rev 01) 0000:00:10.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) 0000:00:10.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) 0000:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 40) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) From larry at isp.com Thu Feb 1 22:44:38 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox Message-ID: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some reason I can not get it to work... So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... Thanks for any help anyone can offer... Larry * -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 1 23:04:31 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:04:31 -0500 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> References: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> Message-ID: <1170371071.31426.116.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 16:44 -0600, larry wrote: > *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... > I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some > reason I can not get it to work... > > So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > > Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > > Larry Depending on what you've done so far... if you enable universe/multiverse in your apt sources, you can install java (sun-java5) from apt/synaptic. there is also the java plugin within that group. > * > > -- > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > > "This is Linux Country, > on a quiet night you can hear > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > From garryknight at gmx.net Thu Feb 1 23:43:45 2007 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:43:45 +0000 Subject: Need email relaying howto References: Message-ID: Yagnesh Desai wrote: > I want to setup a server which fetches these mails The usual program for this is fetchmail. See 'man fetchmail' in a console for details on how to use it. > and keep backup of them, A script that calls fetchmail then does the backup, or a cron job that does it after everyone's gone home. > and also serve to all 11 of us Along with fetchmail you run procmail ('man procmail' and 'man 5 procmailrc' for details) which moves the downloaded mail into the users' mailboxes according to the contents of their ~/.procmailrc files. > and we still use our own mail client It might be simplest to set the same machine up as a pop server, then you can fetch your mail from, say, 192.168.1.5 on port 110. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From ff809 at ncf.ca Fri Feb 2 00:36:51 2007 From: ff809 at ncf.ca (Brian Lunergan) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:36:51 -0500 Subject: Dkop backup program In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20070127105651.7cc93040@pop.mich.com> References: <4.2.2.20070127105651.7cc93040@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <45C287A3.708@ncf.ca> Dave M wrote: > has anyone tried using the Dcop backup program > (http://kornelix.squarespace.com/dkop) with Ubuntu (6.06 or 6.10). I do not > see it in any of the the repositories. It looks like a very useful tool so > I am thinking of giving it a try. Curious to know if any of you have been > down that road and how well it works. Curious to know if a similar program exists for use with CD-writers. Never had the urge or requirement to jump to DVD so that's my backup medium of choice. -- Brian Lunergan Nepean, Ontario Canada --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000709-2, 2007-02-01 Tested on: 2007-02-01 19:36:54 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From ljpino at grm.net Fri Feb 2 00:39:37 2007 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:39:37 -0600 Subject: Normal drive behavior? (Solved) In-Reply-To: References: <45BFEA02.3070908@grm.net> Message-ID: <45C28849.30406@grm.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Lorin Pino wrote: > > >> I can insert a cd and listen to music from the dvd-rom (hdc) or the >> cd-rw (hdd). I can write files from the harddrive to disc fine. But, >> if I have a disc in hdc (intending to copy it), hdd will only mount for >> about a half of a second before disappearing. >> > ... > >> /etc/fstab only shows hdc: >> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. >> # >> # >> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >> /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 >> 1 >> /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 >> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 >> > > I have had nothing but trouble with CDs in fstab. Try commenting it out and > see what happens - pmount should mount it seamlessly (in media, but > probably at a different mountpoint). > That seems to have done it. Thanks! ~Lorin From evangerard at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 01:00:30 2007 From: evangerard at gmail.com (Evan) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:00:30 -0500 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <1170371071.31426.116.camel@localhost> References: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> <1170371071.31426.116.camel@localhost> Message-ID: I have the default-install Firefox installed on a brand new Ubuntu 6.10 install. I believe the release is 2.0.02. I installed Automatix2 with all available plugins and Java works flawlessly. I now have 5 media players, but what they heck?! I can't seem to nail down the proper codecs. My benchmark for success has been CNN videos. Are you trying to have Java work for Mozilla's Firefox or Ubuntu's default install Firefox? On 2/1/07, John Dangler wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 16:44 -0600, larry wrote: > > *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... > > I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some > > reason I can not get it to work... > > > > So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > > > > Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > > > > Larry > Depending on what you've done so far... > if you enable universe/multiverse in your apt sources, you can install > java (sun-java5) from apt/synaptic. there is also the java plugin > within that group. > > > * > > > > -- > > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > > > > "This is Linux Country, > > on a quiet night you can hear > > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > > > > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E > > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From custom at freenet.de Fri Feb 2 02:06:50 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:06:50 +0700 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 11:31 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > How about hardware identification? The problem with vmware is that my Dell > OEM XP key isn't valid for the virtual machine. Would virtualbox be > different? No. Would be the same, and they say it's expected behaviour because it presents a particular (and consistent) set of hardware to Windows, making it possible to move the file between computers having very different architecture. (Same as VMWare). BTW, the key will work won't it, it just won't validate when MS tries to impale your installation with their WGA update. :) I think if you are actually running that OEM copy just once, AND on the same physical computer that it shipped with, then I (*I*) think you should be entitled to run it, and be entitled to visit Auntie Google to look for a 'wga patch'. :) Cheers, Chanchao From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 02:24:35 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:24:35 -0500 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702011824v181aee14qa52c8b98bc7e0be6@mail.gmail.com> On 01/02/07, Chanchao wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 11:31 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > How about hardware identification? The problem with vmware is that my Dell > > OEM XP key isn't valid for the virtual machine. Would virtualbox be > > different? > > No. Would be the same, and they say it's expected behaviour because it > presents a particular (and consistent) set of hardware to Windows, > making it possible to move the file between computers having very > different architecture. (Same as VMWare). > > BTW, the key will work won't it, it just won't validate when MS tries to > impale your installation with their WGA update. :) > > I think if you are actually running that OEM copy just once, AND on the > same physical computer that it shipped with, then I (*I*) think you > should be entitled to run it, and be entitled to visit Auntie Google to > look for a 'wga patch'. :) Or, you could try calling MS and arguing that they should make the WGA update available to you since you are running the operating system on the machine for which you have the licence. The only thing they could possibly ding you on is if you have multiple installations of the same OS with the same key on the same computer (even if you're not running it at the same time). Anyway, you'd have to explore your legalese. Anyway, I've got VMserver working under Windows XP Pro. I installed IIS and now VMserver is happy as a clam -- now Ubuntu is running (PS Don't press ctrl-alt-delete whilst in the VM expecting to get the Windows XP process manager... you'll kill your Ubuntu install ;-P). Next, I'll have to see if I can get VMserver to complete the build in Ubuntu (I tried earlier today before I left the house and it stopped complaining that it was missing the kernel header source... need to install them pesky headers) and then try running the VM under both Windows XP and Ubuntu and, then try mapping a :"real" ext3fs partition to the VM for data storage (I'm going to experiment and see just how stable my Ubuntu VM will be... the thought of being able to back-up my server by simply duplicating the virtual hard disk file appeals to me). Eric. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 02:27:42 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:27:42 -0500 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702011824v181aee14qa52c8b98bc7e0be6@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <77520bee0702011824v181aee14qa52c8b98bc7e0be6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702011827w332428ffkaa30d1727cc31ebc@mail.gmail.com> > Next, I'll have to see if I can get VMserver to complete the build in > Ubuntu (I tried earlier today before I left the house and it stopped > complaining that it was missing the kernel header source... need to > install them pesky headers) and then try running the VM under both > Windows XP and Ubuntu and, then try mapping a :"real" ext3fs partition > to the VM for data storage (I'm going to experiment and see just how > stable my Ubuntu VM will be... the thought of being able to back-up my > server by simply duplicating the virtual hard disk file appeals to > me). Or, instead of compiling the server, I just simply install the VMware player instead into Ubuntu (provided I can map an ext3fs partition to the Ubuntu VM through the Windows XP VMware Server Console). PS Anyone contemplating setting up a VM with VMware Server... check out the manual at: From jridgley2 at austin.rr.com Fri Feb 2 02:52:04 2007 From: jridgley2 at austin.rr.com (Jay Ridgley) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:52:04 -0600 Subject: XSane device change information Message-ID: <45C2A754.8020101@austin.rr.com> Folks, I recently changed my all in one HP printer from one model to another. How do I communicate that to XSane? The configuration file still shows the old printer (or it did until I deleted the directory). How do I get it to identify the new device? I tried reinstalling the software packages but that did not help. XSane reports that there is no scanner device available. Old model was a PSC1610; new one is a C3180. The printer driver is the same (hpijs) and the printer works properly. -- Cheers, Jay Ridgley jridgley2 at austin.rr.com Registered Linux User ID - 9115 From dennismouille at hotmail.com Fri Feb 2 04:02:56 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:02:56 -0800 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> Message-ID: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html java update 11 is the lastest update Dennis >From: larry >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: Ubuntu-Users-List >Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox >Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > >*I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... >I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some >reason I can not get it to work... > >So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > >Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > >Larry >* > >-- >Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux >by Ubuntu ver 6.10 >73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > >"This is Linux Country, >on a quiet night you can hear >WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > >GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E >Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 From vramnum10 at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 04:27:33 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:27:33 -0800 Subject: whois microsoft In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0701311220u4a2883b4k44c7e56828e9753e@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0701301106g1cec36b6hb2020b52aae0885b@mail.gmail.com> <1170185180.4977.197.camel@chronic> <727fc2ee0701301130j5fa4f50aj42fd2292b227c6f@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00701310322s21fa8a6cjb4bd0583c85980f4@mail.gmail.com> <727fc2ee0701310746u6ca94e3bj775d2045d8bf732d@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00701310833o15c426edl72186d0723de5fb8@mail.gmail.com> <727fc2ee0701311220u4a2883b4k44c7e56828e9753e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702012027q2aa3fac8vb7c8434f3b01c42b@mail.gmail.com> HI I started this thread.... I no longer believe that the whois data base was hacked.. This should finish the thread. I did learn something from it.. So it wasn't a total waste of time.. There is a Silver Lining in every Storm Cloud... Example: If there was no Windows..How would we know we liked Ubuntu better??? TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 2 05:14:52 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:14:52 -0500 Subject: Need email relaying howto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070202001452.39e16bf5@chisel> Yagnesh Desai wrote: > Friends > I have an account with ISP who provided pop3 email > account. Now I have 10 accounts there and > 10 people in my intrAnet are accessing these mails > via M$Outlook (I can not help this). while I do it with Evolution. > > I want to setup a server which fetches these mails and > keep backup of them, and also serve to all 11 of us and > we still use our own mail client while there is always backup > of those mail in the server. . . Here's a page from a broader "how to" that gives step by step instructions for setting up Postfix with SASL authentication and TLS encryption for outgoing mail, and Courier for the POP/IMAP access you'll need for users' mail clients to connect to and retrieve incoming mail... http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p5 There's certainly other options. Different software like Exim mail server and Dovecot POP/IMAP, but this will give you a good overview. I'd say 95% of it is relevant to your question in any case. Since you're planning on ultimately removing your ISP from the loop you'll want a full blown mail server, and all the extra encryption and authentication stuff makes it safe to use from the outside in case someone with a laptop needs remote mail access or such. It doesn't hurt anything to have it running even on an internal network either. ;-) In addition to this, you'll need something to get mail from your ISP's mail server to yours. That's a pretty easy one... Fetchmail. It will poll your ISP mail server at scheduled intervals and hand mail off to Postfix, which will deliver it to the users' mailboxes on your server, that Courier will happily let them access on request. Outgoing mail should be routed to your server first for archiving/processing, which will in turn use your ISP mail server as a "smart host" initially (until you get to the point you no longer use them for anything at all). Your archiving requirements I have little experience with, but if you don't discover a canned solution I'd suggest looking into using Procmail and some sort of recipe that invokes tar/gz magic to add copies of everything to your backups automatically. IMAP mail access for users may help in this respect too, because mail is left on the server by design. You could also set up each client to "leave mail on the server", or maybe use Procmail to do some sort of "dual delivery" to the user's mail box and a hidden "archives" mailbox for each user which you subsequently back up whatever way suites you best. You'll want Procmail around anyway, to be the liaison between Postfix and whatever virus and spam software you'll use. It may not be necessary at first because your ISP deals with it, but when that's taken away you'll want something in place so you might as well go ahead and set it up and iron out all the bugs while it's not mission critical. The only other thing I can think of you'll want set up is SSH for remote admin. Even if nothing else is exposed to the public, having this key resource available from anywhere can save your hide. -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And for those who want to know how to do it: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-December/015111.html From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 2 06:20:50 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 01:20:50 -0500 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20070202012050.71d10ef4@chisel> Frank McCormick wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:55:04 -0800 > Patton Echols wrote: > > > It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for > > GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more > > full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd > > expect some level of key manager and I want to be able to > > encrypt / sign clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any > > thoughts about which might be a better choice? > > > > I can't speak for Seahorse but I run GPA and find it fills all my > needs. But then all I need is signing/encryption of mail/ Just an FYI side note... Claws-Mail, the spinoff of Sylpheed, has dandy GnuPG support. And both Dapper and Edgy packages in their "unofficial" repository. :) http://www.claws-mail.org -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From p.echols at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 08:56:54 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:56:54 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <20070201033631.30c7c9c7@chisel> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201033631.30c7c9c7@chisel> Message-ID: <45C2FCD6.1060900@comcast.net> On 02/01/2007 12:36 AM, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > >> It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for >> GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more >> full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd expect >> some level of key manager and I want to be able to encrypt / sign >> clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any thoughts about >> which might be a better choice? >> > > I've probably tried every front end there is on both Windows and Linux > boxen. I'm currently using GPA for what little GUI gpg stuff I do. It > lacks any clipboard functionality, but I have vim scripts for that. > It's a good, solid kayring manager with Keyserver and file > encrypt/decrypt support. It also has outstanding support for viewing > information about keys, sub keys, signatures, and such. > > The thing I disliked about Seahorse is its implementation of > ssh/gpg-agent. On two systems now I've had to manually seek and destroy > all agent settings because they conflict with the GnuPG "standard" way > of doing things. I typically have both the stable and development > branches of GnuPG installed though, and 2.x installs an agent by > default. > > The other front end you may want to look at is Kgpg. It's KDE, but runs > fine under Gnome complete with the little "task bar" applet that gives > you left click access just like PGP itself or WinPT. The only thing I > really had any issues with was it's built in editor. It had little > quirks like not being able to properly ID signed text unless the > 'BEGIN' header was the first line on the page. I believe that was true > for the clipboard function too. You couldn't CTRL+A, CTRL+C to get > text to the clipboard much of the time, you had to be more selective. > > On the plus side, Kgpg can install a pretty "billy goat" icon on your > desktop that you can drag files to have have them shredded. ;) > > DISCLAIMER: Above gripes based on months+ old data. Things may have > changed, been fixed, etc. > > Thanks for your thoughts. Another day and I've run out of time to do anything, but it looks like I'll start by trying GPA. Even if it's less user friendly, it sounds like it may be a better "citizen." Then if I'm dissatisfied, I can try seahorse -- after a backup of course. >> Also, I'd expect that if I tried GPA, for example. then uninstalled >> it and tried seahorse, keyrings etc would be there as soon as >> installed, both should be looking for the standard GnuPG file >> locations, right? >> > > GPA in particular is unobtrusive (another reason I like it). Seahorse > and Kgpg will diddle your gpg.config and/or other related configuration > files if you let them. If I remember correctly, Seahorse even installed > a second set of config files all for itself and went after my .bashrc, > which only made the problems with agent more perplexing. But none of > them has ever eaten my keys. > > Is there a place where I can find out what files are accessed by seahorse - before! - I install it? It would be good to know what to back up. > You should have backups in any case. And if you do start checking out > front ends you should definitely back up your configuration files. A > standard gpg.conf isn't rocket science, but it will make your life > easier if something changes a setting you later realize you want set > back or, eliminated. > > Bottom line... it's probably going to be a matter of personal > preference in the end. I'd just go ahead and start with the one > that looked like it did everything I wanted. And there's really no > reason you can't have multiple front ends installed if you pay > attention to how they interact with your .conf files. Especially > Seahorse. ;) > > From p.echols at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 08:59:46 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:59:46 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <20070202012050.71d10ef4@chisel> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20070202012050.71d10ef4@chisel> Message-ID: <45C2FD82.40306@comcast.net> On 02/01/2007 10:20 PM, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Frank McCormick wrote: > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:55:04 -0800 >> Patton Echols wrote: >> >> >>> It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for >>> GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more >>> full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd >>> expect some level of key manager and I want to be able to >>> encrypt / sign clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any >>> thoughts about which might be a better choice? >>> >>> >> I can't speak for Seahorse but I run GPA and find it fills all my >> needs. But then all I need is signing/encryption of mail/ >> > > Just an FYI side note... Claws-Mail, the spinoff of Sylpheed, has > dandy GnuPG support. And both Dapper and Edgy packages in their > "unofficial" repository. :) > > http://www.claws-mail.org > > Right, i've heard good things about claws. I've recently migrated from windoze where I used t'bird. Getting my windows mail archives, filters etc transferred was easy enough, but I would want all that to come along if I were to use another client. I'll probably stick with t'bird unless there is a *very* compelling reason to switch. Thanks again. From p.echols at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 09:01:46 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:01:46 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> On 02/01/2007 05:24 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:55:04 -0800 > Patton Echols wrote: > > >> It looks like there are a couple of GUI front ends available for >> GnuPG. Looking at the web sites, It appears that Seahorse is more >> full featured than GPA, though my needs are fairly small. I'd expect >> some level of key manager and I want to be able to encrypt / sign >> clipboard contents or point to file, my choice. Any thoughts about >> which might be a better choice? >> >> > > I can't speak for Seahorse but I run GPA and find it fills all my > needs. But then all I need is signing/encryption of mail/ > > >> Also, I'd expect that if I tried GPA, for example. then uninstalled >> it and tried seahorse, keyrings etc would be there as soon as >> installed, both should be looking for the standard GnuPG file >> locations, right? >> > > > I would ***think*** so . When I installed T'bird after setting up > GPG for Sylpheed, when it came to GPG setup it found all it needed. > Is there a T'bird plugin? I don't recall seeing one. What I'd done in windows is just copy the email to clipboard,sign that, then paste back. same for decrypt. It's all I really need to do. > Cheers > > > Frank > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFweorzWG7ldLG6fIRAq4MAKCXDSd9i5TOgoyWwt8MSV712s6ChACghjCT > ubl0rkT3vuUXkWn9VudhaFI= > =qOnw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From witt at cat06.de Fri Feb 2 09:06:53 2007 From: witt at cat06.de (Denis Witt) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:06:53 +0100 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar schrieb: > I. Has anyone run the free (?) Virtual PC 2004 app under Windows with > Ubuntu? (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/evaluation/sysreqs.mspx) Yes, i tried to run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS with Virtual PC 2004, but it's rather slow, the installation tooks some hours (on a P4 2,4 GHZ 1GB RAM). After the installation the performance is getting better but it's still slow when you compare it to a Windows XP running on the same machine using VMware with Ubuntu. > 2. Can I run Windows under Linux or a Windows app under Linux? Yes, take a look at wine (Wine is not an emulator), some Applications running very fine using Wine, some other will not work or not as expected. Photoshop 7 for example works fine but the Panels are always on top on every desktop which could be quite annoying. But the performance is very good. > 3. [Slight aside] I Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server edition the best choice for > a server Linux? I come from YellowDog Linux which is a Fedora > Core-based distro... is a Debian-based server much different in > operation? (I presume not but it's better to be safe than sorry and > ask the question). I'm using Ubuntu Dapper LTS for a Samba PDC / Fileserver and it does this job very good since about one year. If you could use some older package versions you could also use Debian (which Ubuntu is based on). The current Debian version (sarge) is rather old, but the next release (etch) should be final soon and the package versions are really close to Dapper LTS. I'm running etch on two other servers (Web and Mail) and some Web-based applications (e.g. SugarCRM and ILIAS) were easier to set up than on LTS. For a desktop like system i would always prefer Ubuntu. But if you can dismiss X and gnome/KDE and want to set up an long time run system i would choose Debian. HTH, Bye! From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 09:07:11 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:07:11 +0000 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45C2FF3F.90308@manchester.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patton, Patton Echols wrote: >> Is there a T'bird plugin? I don't recall seeing one. What I'd done in >> windows is just copy the email to clipboard,sign that, then paste back. >> same for decrypt. It's all I really need to do. Have a look at the enigmail plugin (mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail) for T'bird. It doesn't really do key management, but it does what you want above. Regards, Tony. - -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFwv8/IsyKE/d21hkRAgI2AJwLuH6IWhY4EgEi1Au3lkBUk+OrlACeI83B j7PqMCkOzs+Ly2+d3ljK8Us= =Ec8g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chris.b at nnister.org.uk Fri Feb 2 09:18:23 2007 From: chris.b at nnister.org.uk (Chris Bannister) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:18:23 +0000 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45C301DF.9050109@nnister.org.uk> Patton Echols wrote: >> Is there a T'bird plugin? I don't recall seeing one. What I'd done in >> windows is just copy the email to clipboard,sign that, then paste back. >> same for decrypt. It's all I really need to do. There is enigmail. A rather nice PGP front end for T'bird. Available in the mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail package. From chris.b at nnister.org.uk Fri Feb 2 09:22:09 2007 From: chris.b at nnister.org.uk (Chris Bannister) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:22:09 +0000 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C2FF3F.90308@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> <45C2FF3F.90308@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <45C302C1.8040909@nnister.org.uk> Tony Arnold wrote: > Have a look at the enigmail plugin (mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail) for > T'bird. It doesn't really do key management, but it does what you want > above. It will, create, revoke, sign, search key servers, and change passphrases on pgp keys... not sure there are many day to day tasks it isn't capable of. Unless I've missed something obvious? From atouret.nospam at free.fr Fri Feb 2 09:35:26 2007 From: atouret.nospam at free.fr (Alexandre Touret) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:35:26 +0100 Subject: Support of wine under Feisty AMD64 In-Reply-To: <45C224B7.8080308@kaiser-linux.li> References: <45C217A1.9000001@free.fr> <45C224B7.8080308@kaiser-linux.li> Message-ID: <45C305DE.3070601@free.fr> Thomas Kaiser wrote: > Alexandre Touret wrote: > >> Hello, >> I m looking for moving from debian etch AMD64 to ubuntu. >> Does the next version of ubuntu have a full support of wine in festy >> amd64? Currently in debian I have to use wine under a 32b chroot and >> wine is currently in unstable . >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Regards, >> Alexandre >> > > I have Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) AMD64 version installed here and there is no > wine package available. I only see a package libwine. > > If I try to install I get an error: > > thomas at AMD64:~$ sudo apt-get install libwine > Password: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libwine: Depends: wine but it is not installable > E: Broken packages > > Regards, Thomas > > > > I am under debian etch and now I can install some wine packages. They still dont work efficiently but the packages are here :-) So, I d like to know if the next version of ubuntu will include this functionality Regards, Alexandre From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 09:50:30 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:50:30 +0000 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C302C1.8040909@nnister.org.uk> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> <45C2FF3F.90308@manchester.ac.uk> <45C302C1.8040909@nnister.org.uk> Message-ID: <45C30966.3030000@manchester.ac.uk> Chris, Chris Bannister wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: > >> Have a look at the enigmail plugin (mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail) for >> T'bird. It doesn't really do key management, but it does what you want >> above. > > It will, create, revoke, sign, search key servers, and change > passphrases on pgp keys... not sure there are many day to day tasks it > isn't capable of. Unless I've missed something obvious? So it will! I've never thought to look that closely at it, just used it for signing, encrypting and decrypting! I've learnt something which can only be a good thing! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 2 10:16:39 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 05:16:39 -0500 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070202051639.6c65f346@chisel> Patton Echols wrote: > Is there a T'bird plugin? I don't recall seeing one. What I'd done > in windows is just copy the email to clipboard,sign that, then paste > back. same for decrypt. It's all I really need to do. You mean a GnuPG plugin for Thunderbird? Sure there's one... http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ As far as your question about which files to back up before installing Seahorse, you might as well grab everything in your ~/.gnupg directory, your ~/.bashrc, and your ~/.bash_profile. I *think* that should cover it, and I'm not 100% sure you really need both the .bash* files but if I recall correctly Seahorse used one or the other to automatically create a gpg-agent socket when you log in. Which includes every time you open a terminal, too. :( You shouldn't be too buggered up anyway, it's not like gpg won't work or anything, and if you want to quit using the agent you comment out the "use-agent" entry in gpg.conf. It's stopping all the extra sockets (really just files) being created and housekeeping that's a pain. And no, I can't think of any *compelling* reason to switch to Claws-Mail. It will make you smarter and better looking, but if you're like me that's not really an issue. -- _ _ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 11:12:53 2007 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:12:53 +0100 Subject: OTRS on Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server Message-ID: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> Hi I have set up an Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server for a customer and next step will be installing OTRS and get it to run. The server seems to work fine, and serves the apache info page when pointing a browser at it. I have googled quite a bit looking for howtos on getting OTRS installed and up and running. So far I've found that a few people have tried and gotten problems with it. But as yet no howto beyond apt-getting the package itself. So have anybody here done it, and feel they could explain how? Thanks in advance! Regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From larry at isp.com Fri Feb 2 12:06:15 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:06:15 -0600 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <1170371071.31426.116.camel@localhost> References: <45C26D56.50706@isp.com> <1170371071.31426.116.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45C32937.2030405@isp.com> John Dangler wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 16:44 -0600, larry wrote: > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some >> reason I can not get it to work... >> >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... >> >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... >> >> Larry >> > Depending on what you've done so far... > if you enable universe/multiverse in your apt sources, you can install > java (sun-java5) from apt/synaptic. there is also the java plugin > within that group. > > > > > Hi John, I do have both universe/multiverse enabled in my sources.list... Thanks Larry -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From larry at isp.com Fri Feb 2 12:45:06 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:45:06 -0600 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> Dennis Castanos wrote: > https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html > java update 11 is the lastest update > Dennis > > >> From: larry >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 >> >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some >> reason I can not get it to work... >> >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... >> >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... >> >> Larry >> * >> Hello Dennis, I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the Yahoo pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the plugin... Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have j2re1.4 runtime enviroment j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... But it still does not work for me... I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... I must not be doing something right for it too not work... Thanks to all that responded... Larry PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl Fri Feb 2 13:00:37 2007 From: a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl (Bram Kuijper) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:00:37 +0100 Subject: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build Message-ID: <45C335F5.9060304@rug.nl> Hi all, I need to do a net install of a daily build of feisty. Where can I find a mini.iso to do this via my usb drive? According to this site, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ there are apperently no mini.iso's available for the feisty daily build. anybody knows where I can get a mini.iso for a daily build of feisty? cheers, Bram From iddingdj05 at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 13:06:30 2007 From: iddingdj05 at comcast.net (Donald Iddings) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:06:30 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility Message-ID: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> have edgy on a desktop pc I built myself & like it lots, no compatibility issues. Thinking about purchasing a laptop pc to install same, no dual boot just format for ubuntu 6.10 & install. researching hardware compatibility looks like either IBM T model all Intel, or a Mac notebook which is now all Intel may work best, I already checked the ubuntu notebook compatibility but difficult to make heads or tails out of it? Most research on this subject that proved of any value was googled. Anybody got any other suggestions? -- iddingdj05 at comcast.net From stefanovesa at tiscali.it Fri Feb 2 13:08:27 2007 From: stefanovesa at tiscali.it (Stefano Vesa) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:08:27 +0100 Subject: edgy eft: udf discs wrongly automounted as iso9660 Message-ID: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> Hi, When I put a UDF formatted DVD or CD disc in the drive of ny laptop, the disc is always auto-mounted as a normal iso 9660 disk. If I want mount udf I have to manually unmount it and remount with: mount -t udf ...etc. In my fstab I have the line: /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 but it seems useless because I think that some daemon, probably HAL, gets rid of it. Anyone has the same experience or has a solution? TIA. Stefano From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:14:35 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:44:35 +0530 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> Message-ID: Dear Sir, you have asked for a general installation without specifying the error....You might try out these options... 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re 1.5plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and install the java plugin... 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for automatix) and install the java plugin...*easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download it... yours faitfully, Bhavani Shankar. On 2/2/07, larry wrote: > > Dennis Castanos wrote: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html > > java update 11 is the lastest update > > Dennis > > > > > >> From: larry > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >> > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > >> > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox 2.0... > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but for some > >> reason I can not get it to work... > >> > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > >> > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > >> > >> Larry > >> * > >> > Hello Dennis, > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the Yahoo > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the plugin... > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have j2re1.4 > runtime enviroment > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... > > But it still does not work for me... > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... > > Thanks to all that responded... > > Larry > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... > > > -- > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > > "This is Linux Country, > on a quiet night you can hear > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:17:24 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:17:24 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility In-Reply-To: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> References: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> Hi! I think most laptops work well. I use Edgy on my (not so new) Dell Inspiron 8600 without any problems, everything works (WLAN, suspend, hibernate, Speedstep). You'll find a lot of reports here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam HTH, Severin Donald Iddings schrieb: > have edgy on a desktop pc I built myself & like it lots, no > compatibility issues. Thinking about purchasing a laptop pc to install > same, no dual boot just format for ubuntu 6.10 & install. researching > hardware compatibility looks like either IBM T model all Intel, or a Mac > notebook which is now all Intel may work best, I already checked the > ubuntu notebook compatibility but difficult to make heads or tails out > of it? Most research on this subject that proved of any value was > googled. Anybody got any other suggestions? > From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:22:28 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:52:28 +0530 Subject: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility In-Reply-To: <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> References: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: yes u are right... Bhavani Shankar. On 2/2/07, Severin Schoepke wrote: > > Hi! > > I think most laptops work well. I use Edgy on my (not so new) Dell > Inspiron 8600 without any problems, everything works (WLAN, suspend, > hibernate, Speedstep). > > You'll find a lot of reports here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam > > HTH, Severin > > > > > > Donald Iddings schrieb: > > have edgy on a desktop pc I built myself & like it lots, no > > compatibility issues. Thinking about purchasing a laptop pc to install > > same, no dual boot just format for ubuntu 6.10 & install. researching > > hardware compatibility looks like either IBM T model all Intel, or a Mac > > notebook which is now all Intel may work best, I already checked the > > ubuntu notebook compatibility but difficult to make heads or tails out > > of it? Most research on this subject that proved of any value was > > googled. 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Where can I find > a mini.iso to do this via my usb drive? > > According to this site, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ > there are apperently no mini.iso's available for the feisty daily build. > > anybody knows where I can get a mini.iso for a daily build of feisty? > > cheers, > Bram > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:29:15 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:59:15 +0530 Subject: edgy eft: udf discs wrongly automounted as iso9660 In-Reply-To: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> References: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> Message-ID: no idea about it.. mine is /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 and it is fine... any ideas others? Bhavani Shankar. On 2/2/07, Stefano Vesa wrote: > > Hi, > When I put a UDF formatted DVD or CD disc in the drive of ny laptop, the > disc is always auto-mounted as a normal iso 9660 disk. > If I want mount udf I have to manually unmount it and remount with: > mount -t udf ...etc. > > In my fstab I have the line: > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > but it seems useless because I think that some daemon, probably HAL, > gets rid of it. > > Anyone has the same experience or has a solution? > > TIA. > Stefano > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a really nice Website about running Thinkpads with Linux called ThinkWiki: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki Regards, Denis From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 13:35:44 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:35:44 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux Message-ID: I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:49:32 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:49:32 +0100 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C3416C.4070604@gmail.com> Hi! To me the most talked about reader is 'LiFeRea' (Linux Feed Reader). It is available for Ubuntu... - Severin James Silverton schrieb: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? > > > > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > > > > From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 13:51:13 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:51:13 +0000 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45391f280702020551s36c9eb09x28ed70b0f59c7e19@mail.gmail.com> On 02/02/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: > > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? > Nope - no consensus. The number of newsreaders out there is large and everyone has differing requirements. Try a few, pick one and then bring it up in religious arguments about which is the better newsreader/email client/editor/shell -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at laniels.org Fri Feb 2 13:51:49 2007 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:51:49 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 08:35:44AM -0500, James Silverton wrote: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? By far the best is Akregator. Just do a sudo apt-get install akregator The best newsreader for any platform is NetNewsWire for the Mac. Then there's a close tie between SharpReader for Windows and Akregator for KDE. I like Akregator quite a lot. I've played with a lot of them, and it's the only one for Linux that's acceptable. An alternative is to use a web-based aggregator like Bloglines. Then anywhere you go in the world, Linux or otherwise, you'll have the same RSS feeds available. Good luck. Ask any questions you'd like. -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I personally use Google Reader, but there are others available for people who don't want a Google account... - Severin From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 2 13:48:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:48:05 -0400 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Denis Witt wrote: > Yes, take a look at wine (Wine is not an emulator), some Applications > running very fine using Wine, some other will not work or not as > expected. Photoshop 7 for example works fine but the Panels are always > on top on every desktop which could be quite annoying. But the > performance is very good. Yes, that's exactly the sort of problem that's driven me away from Wine for Quicken. In that case, every time I try to create an invoice (and some other pop up windows, but that's the main one), the window pops up at a very tiny size, and seems to go in a loop of being over/under the other window. Windowing just doesn't always work as it should. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 2 13:44:15 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:44:15 -0400 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: Chanchao wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 11:31 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> How about hardware identification? The problem with vmware is that my >> Dell >> OEM XP key isn't valid for the virtual machine. Would virtualbox be >> different? > > No. Would be the same, and they say it's expected behaviour because it > presents a particular (and consistent) set of hardware to Windows, > making it possible to move the file between computers having very > different architecture. (Same as VMWare). > > BTW, the key will work won't it, it just won't validate when MS tries to > impale your installation with their WGA update. :) I believe it is expected to stop booting after 30 days. > > I think if you are actually running that OEM copy just once, AND on the > same physical computer that it shipped with, then I (*I*) think you > should be entitled to run it, and be entitled to visit Auntie Google to > look for a 'wga patch'. :) I certainly consider that I'm running the software on the hardware on which I purchased it, and don't believe they have a right to prevent it. However, I've googled exactly one story of someone who successfully got a key from MS to run it, and he spent many hours on the phone with both Dell & MS to reach that point (carefully, if I can read between the lines, never mentioning that the version he was trying to run was running in a VM). So if I don't find such a patch (sue me Microsoft!) I'm reverting to Win98SE which will do the job just fine for the only software I care about. -- derek From witt at cat06.de Fri Feb 2 14:11:45 2007 From: witt at cat06.de (Denis Witt) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:11:45 +0100 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: James Silverton schrieb: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? Are you looking for an a) newsreader for newsgroups or an b) rss-feed reader? If a) try Thunderbird, is really easy to set-up, does also Mail and RSS but doesn't support things like scoring and killfiles very well (you could fake someth. using filters). If b) try Lifearea which is in the Ubuntu repository. Or take a look at flock, a Firefox based browser which has a quite good rss-reader inside. I like to have the RSS-Reader in my browser so i don't have to start another programm if the newsfeed doesn't contain the full text. Bye! From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 2 13:52:42 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:52:42 -0400 Subject: edgy eft: udf discs wrongly automounted as iso9660 References: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> Message-ID: Stefano Vesa wrote: > When I put a UDF formatted DVD or CD disc in the drive of ny laptop, the > disc is always auto-mounted as a normal iso 9660 disk. > If I want mount udf I have to manually unmount it and remount with: > mount -t udf ...etc. > > In my fstab I have the line: > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > but it seems useless because I think that some daemon, probably HAL, > gets rid of it. > > Anyone has the same experience or has a solution? I recommend simply removing the line from fstab. Let Hal & pmount take care of it automagically. I _haven't_ tried this with udf disks, but ime putting CDs into fstab is always problematic. btw, pmount will mount the disk in /media, but probably not at cdrom0. -- derek From norman at littletank.org Fri Feb 2 14:20:05 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:20:05 +0000 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170426005.9000.29.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 08:35 -0500, James Silverton wrote: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? I use Pan Newsreader and have done so for more than 2 years. Norman From ogra at ubuntu.com Fri Feb 2 14:20:12 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:20:12 +0100 Subject: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build In-Reply-To: <45C335F5.9060304@rug.nl> References: <45C335F5.9060304@rug.nl> Message-ID: <1170426012.6549.3.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Fr, 2007-02-02 at 14:00 +0100, Bram Kuijper wrote: > I need to do a net install of a daily build of feisty. Where can I find > a mini.iso to do this via my usb drive? > > According to this site, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ > there are apperently no mini.iso's available for the feisty daily build. > > anybody knows where I can get a mini.iso for a daily build of feisty? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know similar it is, but my backup program of choice is kdar, which backs up nicely (and compactly) to CDs, with automatic slicing to fit however large a backup you have onto as many CDs as necessary. I haven't yet tried to use it for DVDs but it looks like it should work, too. KDar, as the name implies, uses a "dar" archive format which means the disk isn't directly readable - dkop doesn't mention any kind of compressions, but otherwise looks much like KDar. The only problem I've had with KDar, is that it has _always_ failed to write more than 500MB in a slice - but I think that was cheap media! Next time I do a full backup, I'm going to try 220MB slices and see if it successfully writes 3 to a disk. I do have disks with multiple slices on them, so it has no problem with that. -- derek From tony.kruse at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 14:33:28 2007 From: tony.kruse at gmail.com (Tony K.) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:33:28 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52fe24490702020633w61f4b591xfb8f6458ceb6a364@mail.gmail.com> Gmail's Google Reader. Because it is web based it is platform and computer independent. You can log in and check your feeds from anywhere with an internet connection. It also handles podcasts feeds. On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? > > > > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From steve at laniels.org Fri Feb 2 14:48:26 2007 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:48:26 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070202144825.GJ12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:03:11PM +0100, Severin Schoepke wrote: > But I think it's for KDE (QT based), keep that in mind when you're > running the 'normal' Ubuntu. Of course you can use it, but the look and > feel is a bit different... It is KDE, but the look-and-feel differences are pretty minor. The only annoyance is that Akregator has a lot of KDE dependencies that Ubu wouldn't install by default. So you end up bringing in a lot of packages. -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 2 14:34:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:34:04 -0400 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> Message-ID: Severin Schoepke wrote: > Stephen R Laniel schrieb: >> By far the best is Akregator. Just do a >> >> sudo apt-get install akregator >> > > But I think it's for KDE (QT based), keep that in mind when you're > running the 'normal' Ubuntu. Of course you can use it, but the look and > feel is a bit different... > >> An alternative is to use a web-based aggregator like >> Bloglines. Then anywhere you go in the world, Linux or >> otherwise, you'll have the same RSS feeds available. > > This is the best alternative in my eyes... I personally use Google > Reader, but there are others available for people who don't want a > Google account... Have I missed a paradigm shift and become a dinosaur? RSS feed readers are _not_ news readers! -- derek From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 15:14:34 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:44:34 +0530 Subject: edgy eft: udf discs wrongly automounted as iso9660 In-Reply-To: References: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> Message-ID: yes right but encrypted cd's cant be played.. Bhavani Shankar On 2/2/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Stefano Vesa wrote: > > > When I put a UDF formatted DVD or CD disc in the drive of ny laptop, the > > disc is always auto-mounted as a normal iso 9660 disk. > > If I want mount udf I have to manually unmount it and remount with: > > mount -t udf ...etc. > > > > In my fstab I have the line: > > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > but it seems useless because I think that some daemon, probably HAL, > > gets rid of it. > > > > Anyone has the same experience or has a solution? > > I recommend simply removing the line from fstab. Let Hal & pmount take > care > of it automagically. I _haven't_ tried this with udf disks, but ime > putting CDs into fstab is always problematic. > > btw, pmount will mount the disk in /media, but probably not at cdrom0. > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl Fri Feb 2 15:14:35 2007 From: a.l.w.kuijper at rug.nl (Bram Kuijper) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:14:35 +0100 Subject: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build (Bhavani Shankar R) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C3555B.2030605@rug.nl> "Dear sir, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90556 could help you out." Eh sorry.. .but I don't get that forum article, unless its message is, that it is not at all possible and that I just have to burn full CD's of the daily distribution? So no mini.iso builds for the daily build of feisty is then the conclusive answer? cheers, Bram Message: 9 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:55:38 +0530 From: "Bhavani Shankar R" Subject: Re: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear sir, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90556 could help you out. Bhavani Shankar On 2/2/07, Bram Kuijper wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need to do a net install of a daily build of feisty. Where can I find > > a mini.iso to do this via my usb drive? > > > > According to this site, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ > > there are apperently no mini.iso's available for the feisty daily build. > > > > anybody knows where I can get a mini.iso for a daily build of feisty? > > > > cheers, > > Bram From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 15:24:07 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:54:07 +0530 Subject: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build (Bhavani Shankar R) In-Reply-To: <45C3555B.2030605@rug.nl> References: <45C3555B.2030605@rug.nl> Message-ID: well I think... any ideas please.. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/2/07, Bram Kuijper wrote: > > "Dear sir, > maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90556 could help you out." > > Eh sorry.. .but I don't get that forum article, unless its message is, > that it is not at all possible and that I just have to burn full CD's of > the daily distribution? > > So no mini.iso builds for the daily build of feisty is then the > conclusive answer? > > cheers, > Bram > > > > > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:55:38 +0530 > From: "Bhavani Shankar R" > Subject: Re: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear sir, > maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90556 could help you out. > Bhavani Shankar > On 2/2/07, Bram Kuijper wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I need to do a net install of a daily build of feisty. Where can I > find > > > a mini.iso to do this via my usb drive? > > > > > > According to this site, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ > > > there are apperently no mini.iso's available for the feisty daily > build. > > > > > > anybody knows where I can get a mini.iso for a daily build of feisty? > > > > > > cheers, > > > Bram > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Then anywhere you go in the world, Linux or > >> otherwise, you'll have the same RSS feeds available. > > > > This is the best alternative in my eyes... I personally use Google > > Reader, but there are others available for people who don't want a > > Google account... > > Have I missed a paradigm shift and become a dinosaur? > > RSS feed readers are _not_ news readers! > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 15:33:02 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:03:02 +0530 Subject: mini-iso for ubuntu feisty daily build (Bhavani Shankar R) In-Reply-To: <1170429982.6549.9.camel@edubuntu> References: <45C3555B.2030605@rug.nl> <1170429982.6549.9.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: yes.. thhanks mate.. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/2/07, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > hi > On Fr, 2007-02-02 at 16:14 +0100, Bram Kuijper wrote: > > So no mini.iso builds for the daily build of feisty is then the > > conclusive answer? > the link i posted points directly to te most recent netboot iso ... if > you go up two directories you can grab the ones of the last two days. > > ciao > oli > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Feb 2 15:38:39 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:38:39 -0500 Subject: Feisty Herd 2 Testing/Bug Reporting? Message-ID: <87zm7w1se8.fsf@valverde.peloton> I'd really like to test Feisty and help make it work well, but every link at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2#head-9e57fcc642038ed46eb2077ae5831672e87d4cb2 is broken and nobody is responding to my emails to the address (ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com) listed as the maintainer of that page. Can someone help, please? Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Fri Feb 2 15:54:06 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 16:54:06 +0100 Subject: Feisty Herd 2 Testing/Bug Reporting? In-Reply-To: <87zm7w1se8.fsf@valverde.peloton> References: <87zm7w1se8.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: <20070202165406.4eddbaa4.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> David Abrahams wrote: > > I'd really like to test Feisty and help make it work well, but every > link at > http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2#head-9e57fcc642038ed46eb2077ae5831672e87d4cb2 > is broken and nobody is responding to my emails to the address > (ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com) listed as the maintainer of that > page. Can someone help, please? It's probably because Herd 3 has just been released ( a few hours ago) ! ;o) -- Vince From amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com Fri Feb 2 15:55:43 2007 From: amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com (Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant)) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:25:43 +0530 Subject: Problems during installation. Message-ID: Initially when trying to boot from Cd after selecting language as english my screen gets frozen. I try starting Ubuntu in safe graphics mode.It gets frozen again in when trying to detect my SATA drive. I get the following material from the forum, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- At last, I can install Ubuntu in my PC and make it dual boot. Thanx a lot guys, for helping me out. Very much appreciate Let me explain what I did 1st I try put acpi=force irqpoll parameter at the end of the line like mr.wizrd told me. But nothing happen still Ubuntu can't detect my SATA drive Then I read thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1782230 that mr.wizrd gave me and wallaa. I figure out that it work when I put the acpi=force irqpoll parameter in between 2nd and 3rd parameter of the line. After that both of my SATA drive appear. I'm very happy with it. Thanx again, if not maybe I'm not one of the Ubuntu user ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------- Now i get into command line mode,but, not into X-windows mode. When trying to look for errors. It says X-window system version 7.0.0. X protocol version 11, revision 0, and release 7.0 I get a box which says start when configured properly and back to commandline mode. The machine is a GX520 ,533MZ celeron,256 MB RAM,30 Gb HDD machine contributed by my company towards my Lab work. Regards Amarnath Srinivasan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com Fri Feb 2 15:56:32 2007 From: amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com (Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant)) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:26:32 +0530 Subject: Command line installation Message-ID: How do i make a command line installation of Ubuntu 6.06? I don't get a X-windows option to install.I get only a command line.It seems I have problems with X-windows version. Regards Amarnath Srinivasan GE Global Infrastructure Services - Security Operations SafeBoot CoE L3/L4 Support D *742 3148 E amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com SafeBoot CoE Support Central: http://supportcentral.ge.com/products/sup_products.asp?prod_id=41193 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 2 16:07:45 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:07:45 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility In-Reply-To: <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> References: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170432465.31426.133.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 14:17 +0100, Severin Schoepke wrote: > Hi! > > I think most laptops work well. I use Edgy on my (not so new) Dell > Inspiron 8600 without any problems, everything works (WLAN, suspend, > hibernate, Speedstep). Severin~ I have the same laptop, and am currently running Dapper on it. Did you, by any chance get wireless to work with a static IP address ? It's the only thing so far I haven't able to resolve. Thanks for any suggestions you may have. John > > You'll find a lot of reports here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam > > HTH, Severin > > > > > > Donald Iddings schrieb: > > have edgy on a desktop pc I built myself & like it lots, no > > compatibility issues. Thinking about purchasing a laptop pc to install > > same, no dual boot just format for ubuntu 6.10 & install. researching > > hardware compatibility looks like either IBM T model all Intel, or a Mac > > notebook which is now all Intel may work best, I already checked the > > ubuntu notebook compatibility but difficult to make heads or tails out > > of it? Most research on this subject that proved of any value was > > googled. Anybody got any other suggestions? > > > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 2 16:21:12 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:21:12 -0500 Subject: Command line installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170433272.31426.139.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:26 +0530, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: > How do i make a command line installation of Ubuntu 6.06? > > I don't get a X-windows option to install.I get only a command line.It > seems I have problems with X-windows version. > > > > Regards Amarnath~ Are you brand new to Linux? If No - Tell us about your hardware (lspci, lsusb, ifconfig, iwconfig,last) Tell us about which version of Ubuntu you're trying to install. Did you try running a live CD version before the install? Is this a dual-boot? Is it a laptop or desktop? If yes, tell us about the computer you're trying to install Ubuntu on. (Laptop/Desktop, windows is installed and I want to add Linux/windows is installed and I want to replace it with Linux, etc)... Anything that would give the list community some idea of what you're trying to accomplish. Beyond the above, if you're getting the dialog I think you're getting, it's probably a video problem. Regards John From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 16:25:04 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:25:04 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility In-Reply-To: <1170432465.31426.133.camel@localhost> References: <1170421590.4663.11.camel@localhost> <45C339E4.6010106@gmail.com> <1170432465.31426.133.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <358cde050702020825g710fa53et35e05a0138f3bd24@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I haven't tried that... I don't have wireless at home and at university I have to use DHCP... I let Network Manager do the job, it's a really cool app (for DHCP)... Sorry, that I couldn't help... cheers, Severin 2007/2/2, John Dangler : > > > Severin~ > I have the same laptop, and am currently running Dapper on it. Did you, > by any chance get wireless to work with a static IP address ? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 2 18:10:57 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:10:57 -0600 Subject: DVD Burning: so much better (Kudos) Message-ID: <45C37EB1.5050702@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I burn DVDs frequently; back when I was burning CDs (almost always ISOs of distros) the process was kinda delicate. I was always worried about running out of CPU or memory and spitting out a coaster. Last night I burned one through Nautilus, and while it was burning I grabbed the ISO from /tmp (local drive) and saved it on the NFS server. At 4G, it took some time, even on a 100-base network. Today I started burning that ISO over the NFS (previously considered a feat in itself) and out of boredom, started a game. It took over a minute for the game, also on NFS to get loaded, but I played it right through. The DVD, of course, took longer to burn, but that's expected. What I didn't expect is that *it*actually*worked*fine*. I'm downloading via BitTorrent, listening to the radio over the net, been answering mails, even pulled up a game of Mahjongg for a bit. The system isn't outrageous- a single-P4 at 1.xG, and it never used more than 512M. The write speed just slowed down, and stayed there until it was done. When we talk about why we like Linux, this is a big part of it: the parts that are rock-solid. Run out of both ram AND swap? Not a problem- just wait for it to complete and all will be well. The execution of software on this platform is *superb*. Linux is no gimmick; it's no trick- all the arguments [which both inform and irritate us from time to time] all the hard work...it's paying off. I can't claim a single atom of the glory- you guys did it all. And people like you in the kernel, networking, and other parts. Everyone who writes code, or helps find bugs in it, you rock. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFw36x6PLtRzZbdhYRAlmjAJ44s+Rl1EzpWH+/rTBv92W88JvJ5ACePInG kDpYKpY9+BM08m9A3gzaf1A= =9CsJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linuxhamuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 18:53:34 2007 From: linuxhamuser at gmail.com (Johnny) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:53:34 -0600 Subject: booting problem Message-ID: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a CPU 150 Ram 32mb Installed went very will now I can't boot into it Grub comes up but it reboots every time what do I need to do to fix this I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options Still reboots every time but not into the system Johnny -- ******************************* ******************************* Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 Ubuntu User number is # 11285 Registed Linux user #310190 Registed Machine #250193 ******************************* ******************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baypos at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 19:04:12 2007 From: baypos at gmail.com (Roger Neth Jr) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:04:12 -0800 Subject: booting problem In-Reply-To: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> References: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511@mail.gmail.com> Hello Johnny, this is from the Ubuntu server guide. I imagine this applies to 6.06. Roger Romans 3:23 2.1.1. System Requirements Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition supports three (3) major architectures: Intel x86, AMD64, and PowerPC. The table below lists recommended hardware specifications. Depending on your needs, you might manage with less than this. However, most users risk being frustrated if they ignore these suggestions. Table 2-1 Recommended Minimum Requirements Install Type RAM Hard Drive Space Server 64 megabytes 500 megabytes The default profile for the Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition is shown below. Once again, the size of the installation will greatly depend on the services you install during setup. For most administrators, the default services are suitable for general server use. Server This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the desired services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting, email hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space would suffice, but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd like to host with your server. Remember that these sizes don't include all the other materials which are usually to be found, such as user files, mail, logs, and data. It is always best to be generous when considering the space for your own files and data. On 2/2/07, Johnny wrote: > > I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a > CPU 150 > Ram 32mb > Installed went very will now I can't boot into it > Grub comes up but it reboots every time > what do I need to do to fix this > I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options > Still reboots every time but not into the system > > Johnny > > -- > ******************************* > ******************************* > Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 > Ubuntu User number is # 11285 > Registed Linux user #310190 > Registed Machine #250193 > ******************************* > ******************************* > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Roger D Neth Jr Owner M&R Services 651Cannery Row, Suite 11 Monterey, CA 93940 Office 831-641-9255 Fax 831-641-9255 e-mail baypos at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Why can't I telnet into myself.. iam at suna:~$ telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused iam at suna:~$ talk dgram udp wait nobody.tty /usr/sbin/in.talkd in.talkd ntalk dgram udp wait nobody.tty /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd in.ntalkd telnet stream tcp nowait telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd /etc/inetd.conf (END) What am I missing??? TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com Fri Feb 2 19:31:11 2007 From: amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com (Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant)) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:01:11 +0530 Subject: Command line installation Message-ID: Yep! Brand new to Linux. It is a desktop.Dell Optiplex GX520 .Celeron 533MHz,256 MB Ram,30 GB HDD. Trying to install Ubuntu 6.06. It already has windows Xp.Wanna have a dual boot. Initially when trying to boot from Cd after selecting language as english my screen gets frozen. I try starting ZUbuntu in safe graphics mode.It gets frozen again in when trying to detect my SATA drive. I get the following material from the forum, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At last, I can install Ubuntu in my PC and make it dual boot. Thanx a lot guys, for helping me out. Very much appreciate Let me explain what I did 1st I try put acpi=force irqpoll parameter at the end of the line like mr.wizrd told me. But nothing happen still Ubuntu can't detect my SATA drive Then I read thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1782230 that mr.wizrd gave me and wallaa. I figure out that it work when I put the acpi=force irqpoll parameter in between 2nd and 3rd parameter of the line. After that both of my SATA drive appear. I'm very happy with it. Thanx again, if not maybe I'm not one of the Ubuntu user -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now i get into command line mode,but, not into X-windows mode. When trying to look for errors. It says X-window system version 7.0.0. X protocol version 11, revision 0, and release 7.0 I get a box which says start when configured properly and back to commandline mode. That's the whole story. Regards Amarnath Srinivasan   -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:45 AM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12 Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility (John Dangler) 2. Re: Command line installation (John Dangler) 3. Re: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility (Severin Schoepke) 4. DVD Burning: so much better (Kudos) (Brian Fahrlander) 5. booting problem (Johnny) 6. Re: booting problem (Roger Neth Jr) 7. Aaron Kiley wants to chat (Aaron Kiley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:07:45 -0500 From: John Dangler Subject: Re: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170432465.31426.133.camel at localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 14:17 +0100, Severin Schoepke wrote: > Hi! > > I think most laptops work well. I use Edgy on my (not so new) Dell > Inspiron 8600 without any problems, everything works (WLAN, suspend, > hibernate, Speedstep). Severin~ I have the same laptop, and am currently running Dapper on it. Did you, by any chance get wireless to work with a static IP address ? It's the only thing so far I haven't able to resolve. Thanks for any suggestions you may have. John > > You'll find a lot of reports here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam > > HTH, Severin > > > > > > Donald Iddings schrieb: > > have edgy on a desktop pc I built myself & like it lots, no > > compatibility issues. Thinking about purchasing a laptop pc to install > > same, no dual boot just format for ubuntu 6.10 & install. researching > > hardware compatibility looks like either IBM T model all Intel, or a Mac > > notebook which is now all Intel may work best, I already checked the > > ubuntu notebook compatibility but difficult to make heads or tails out > > of it? Most research on this subject that proved of any value was > > googled. Anybody got any other suggestions? > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:21:12 -0500 From: John Dangler Subject: Re: Command line installation To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170433272.31426.139.camel at localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:26 +0530, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: > How do i make a command line installation of Ubuntu 6.06? > > I don't get a X-windows option to install.I get only a command line.It > seems I have problems with X-windows version. > > > > Regards Amarnath~ Are you brand new to Linux? If No - Tell us about your hardware (lspci, lsusb, ifconfig, iwconfig,last) Tell us about which version of Ubuntu you're trying to install. Did you try running a live CD version before the install? Is this a dual-boot? Is it a laptop or desktop? If yes, tell us about the computer you're trying to install Ubuntu on. (Laptop/Desktop, windows is installed and I want to add Linux/windows is installed and I want to replace it with Linux, etc)... Anything that would give the list community some idea of what you're trying to accomplish. Beyond the above, if you're getting the dialog I think you're getting, it's probably a video problem. Regards John ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:25:04 +0100 From: "Severin Schoepke" Subject: Re: Ubuntu Edgy & Laptop Compatibility To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <358cde050702020825g710fa53et35e05a0138f3bd24 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi! I haven't tried that... I don't have wireless at home and at university I have to use DHCP... I let Network Manager do the job, it's a really cool app (for DHCP)... Sorry, that I couldn't help... cheers, Severin 2007/2/2, John Dangler : > > > Severin~ > I have the same laptop, and am currently running Dapper on it. Did you, > by any chance get wireless to work with a static IP address ? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070202/cd3f4f4b/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:10:57 -0600 From: Brian Fahrlander Subject: DVD Burning: so much better (Kudos) To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45C37EB1.5050702 at fahrlander.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I burn DVDs frequently; back when I was burning CDs (almost always ISOs of distros) the process was kinda delicate. I was always worried about running out of CPU or memory and spitting out a coaster. Last night I burned one through Nautilus, and while it was burning I grabbed the ISO from /tmp (local drive) and saved it on the NFS server. At 4G, it took some time, even on a 100-base network. Today I started burning that ISO over the NFS (previously considered a feat in itself) and out of boredom, started a game. It took over a minute for the game, also on NFS to get loaded, but I played it right through. The DVD, of course, took longer to burn, but that's expected. What I didn't expect is that *it*actually*worked*fine*. I'm downloading via BitTorrent, listening to the radio over the net, been answering mails, even pulled up a game of Mahjongg for a bit. The system isn't outrageous- a single-P4 at 1.xG, and it never used more than 512M. The write speed just slowed down, and stayed there until it was done. When we talk about why we like Linux, this is a big part of it: the parts that are rock-solid. Run out of both ram AND swap? Not a problem- just wait for it to complete and all will be well. The execution of software on this platform is *superb*. Linux is no gimmick; it's no trick- all the arguments [which both inform and irritate us from time to time] all the hard work...it's paying off. I can't claim a single atom of the glory- you guys did it all. And people like you in the kernel, networking, and other parts. Everyone who writes code, or helps find bugs in it, you rock. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrl?nder Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFw36x6PLtRzZbdhYRAlmjAJ44s+Rl1EzpWH+/rTBv92W88JvJ5ACePInG kDpYKpY9+BM08m9A3gzaf1A= =9CsJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:53:34 -0600 From: Johnny Subject: booting problem To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <45C388AE.2090601 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a CPU 150 Ram 32mb Installed went very will now I can't boot into it Grub comes up but it reboots every time what do I need to do to fix this I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options Still reboots every time but not into the system Johnny -- ******************************* ******************************* Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 Ubuntu User number is # 11285 Registed Linux user #310190 Registed Machine #250193 ******************************* ******************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070202/1a516ff1/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:04:12 -0800 From: "Roger Neth Jr" Subject: Re: booting problem To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Johnny, this is from the Ubuntu server guide. I imagine this applies to 6.06. Roger Romans 3:23 2.1.1.?System Requirements Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition supports three (3) major architectures: Intel x86, AMD64, and PowerPC. The table below lists recommended hardware specifications. Depending on your needs, you might manage with less than this. However, most users risk being frustrated if they ignore these suggestions. Table 2-1?Recommended Minimum Requirements Install Type RAM Hard Drive Space Server 64 megabytes 500 megabytes The default profile for the Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition is shown below. Once again, the size of the installation will greatly depend on the services you install during setup. For most administrators, the default services are suitable for general server use. Server This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the desired services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting, email hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space would suffice, but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd like to host with your server. Remember that these sizes don't include all the other materials which are usually to be found, such as user files, mail, logs, and data. It is always best to be generous when considering the space for your own files and data. On 2/2/07, Johnny wrote: > > I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a > CPU 150 > Ram 32mb > Installed went very will now I can't boot into it > Grub comes up but it reboots every time > what do I need to do to fix this > I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options > Still reboots every time but not into the system > > Johnny > > -- > ******************************* > ******************************* > Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 > Ubuntu User number is # 11285 > Registed Linux user #310190 > Registed Machine #250193 > ******************************* > ******************************* > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Roger D Neth Jr Owner M&R Services 651Cannery Row, Suite 11 Monterey, CA 93940 Office 831-641-9255 Fax 831-641-9255 e-mail baypos at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070202/eb34426b/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:15:00 -0800 From: "Aaron Kiley" Subject: Aaron Kiley wants to chat To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <80f459360702021115w43a97aacq at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Kiley wants to stay in touch using some of Google's most sophisticated new products. If you already have Google Mail or Google Talk, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/b-65872347ae-1518174380-fef7e17e3e88cc8e You will need to click on this link to be able to chat with Aaron Kiley. To get Google Mail; a free email account from Google with over 2,600 megabytes of storage; and chat with Aaron Kiley, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/a-65872347ae-1518174380-69f5c15790 Google Mail offers: - Powerful spam protection - Built-in search for finding your messages and a helpful way of organising emails into "conversations" - No pop-up ads or untargeted banners, just text ads and related information that are relevant to the content of your messages - Instant messaging capabilities right inside Google Mail All this and it is yours for free. But wait, there is more! You can also get Google Talk: http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/ It is a small Windows* download that allows you to make free calls to your friends through your computer. It is simple and clutter free and it works with any computer speaker and microphone. Google Mail and Google Talk are still in beta. We are working hard to add new features and make improvements, so we might also ask for your comments and suggestions periodically. We appreciate your help in making our products even better! Thank you, The Google Team To learn more about Google Mail and Google Talk, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en_GB/about.html http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/about.html (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). * Not a Windows user? No problem. You can also connect to the Google Talk service from any platform using third-party clients (http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/otherclients.html). ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12 ******************************************** From stefanovesa at tiscali.it Fri Feb 2 19:44:34 2007 From: stefanovesa at tiscali.it (Stefano Vesa) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:44:34 +0100 Subject: edgy eft: udf discs wrongly automounted as iso9660 In-Reply-To: References: <1170421707.8376.2.camel@ludwig-laptop> Message-ID: <1170445474.3153.1.camel@ludwig-laptop> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 09:52 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > Stefano Vesa wrote: > > > When I put a UDF formatted DVD or CD disc in the drive of ny laptop, the > > disc is always auto-mounted as a normal iso 9660 disk. > > If I want mount udf I have to manually unmount it and remount with: > > mount -t udf ...etc. > > > > In my fstab I have the line: > > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > but it seems useless because I think that some daemon, probably HAL, > > gets rid of it. > > > > Anyone has the same experience or has a solution? > > I recommend simply removing the line from fstab. Let Hal & pmount take care > of it automagically. I _haven't_ tried this with udf disks, but ime > putting CDs into fstab is always problematic. > > btw, pmount will mount the disk in /media, but probably not at cdrom0. Yes, your advice works! Many thanks, Stefano From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 2 19:45:23 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:45:23 -0500 Subject: Aaron Kiley wants to chat In-Reply-To: <80f459360702021115w43a97aacq@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f459360702021115w43a97aacq@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170445523.7556.21.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 11:15 -0800, Aaron Kiley wrote: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron Kiley wants to stay in touch using some of Google's most > sophisticated new products. Isn't aaron staying in touch by sending a message to this user group? > > If you already have Google Mail or Google Talk, visit: > http://mail.google.com/mail/b-65872347ae-1518174380-fef7e17e3e88cc8e > You will need to click on this link to be able to chat with Aaron > Kiley. > > To get Google Mail; a free email account from Google with over 2,600 > megabytes of storage; and chat with Aaron Kiley, visit: > http://mail.google.com/mail/a-65872347ae-1518174380-69f5c15790 > > Google Mail offers: > - Powerful spam protection > - Built-in search for finding your messages and a helpful way of > organising emails into "conversations" > - No pop-up ads or untargeted banners, just text ads and related > information that are relevant to the content of your messages > - Instant messaging capabilities right inside Google Mail > > All this and it is yours for free. But wait, there is more! You can > also get Google Talk: > > http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/ > > It is a small Windows* download that allows you to make free calls to > your friends through your computer. It is simple and clutter free and > it works with any computer speaker and microphone. > > Google Mail and Google Talk are still in beta. We are working hard to > add new features and make improvements, so we might also ask for your > comments and suggestions periodically. We appreciate your help in > making our products even better! > > Thank you, > The Google Team > > To learn more about Google Mail and Google Talk, visit: > http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en_GB/about.html > http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/about.html > > (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste > them into the address bar of your browser). > > * Not a Windows user? No problem. You can also connect to the Google > Talk service from any platform using third-party clients > (http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/otherclients.html). > From vladanian at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 19:51:22 2007 From: vladanian at gmail.com (Jason Brooks) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:51:22 -0800 Subject: Aaron Kiley wants to chat In-Reply-To: <1170445523.7556.21.camel@localhost> References: <80f459360702021115w43a97aacq@mail.gmail.com> <1170445523.7556.21.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 2/2/07, John Dangler wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 11:15 -0800, Aaron Kiley wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Aaron Kiley wants to stay in touch using some of Google's most > > sophisticated new products. > Isn't aaron staying in touch by sending a message to this user group? > > Pfff -- that's so Web 1.0 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri Feb 2 20:00:57 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:00:57 -0800 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87tzy49vnq.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > Have I missed a paradigm shift and become a dinosaur? > > RSS feed readers are _not_ news readers! I agree. I was going to suggest Gnus, but I'm not even sure what the question is anymore. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From steve at laniels.org Fri Feb 2 20:15:44 2007 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:15:44 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:34:04AM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > Have I missed a paradigm shift and become a dinosaur? > > RSS feed readers are _not_ news readers! Heh. English usage changes over time, you know. Not very long ago, 'weblog' was a term for the sort of things that Apache dumps out into access.log. When I was at a software company in late 2002, I remember a coworker being very confused about what a 'weblog' was. Times change. Language changes. That said, it'd be good if Akregator supported NNTP. Then newsreader = newsreader_{old} \cup newsreader_{new}, and everyone's happy. -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 18:41:44 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:44 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <52fe24490702020633w61f4b591xfb8f6458ceb6a364@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Tony! You wrote on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:33:28 -0500: TK> Because it is web based it is platform and computer TK> independent. You can log in and check your feeds from TK> anywhere with an internet connection. It also handles TK> podcasts feeds. TK> On 2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: ??>> I have been experimenting with the live disc version of ??>> Ubuntu 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs ??>> made available and am coming close to nerving myself to do ??>> a full installation. I was disappointed not to be able to ??>> find an online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to ??>> the best such newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? ??>> ??>> James Silverton ??>> Potomac, Maryland ??>> ??>> -- ??>> ubuntu-users mailing list ??>> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com ??>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users ??>> Thanks very much to everyone who replied so promptly and informatively. I can see that I am going to to have to do a lot of testing when I install Ubuntu. It's really a pity that the Ubuntu 6.10 live disk does not seem to allow experimentation here. Knoppix (an absolutely wonderful achievement, IMHO) allows a great deal of testing and I have been rather pleased with Knode and Thunderbird. Of course, Knode is oriented to KDE like Knoppix itself. Being rather conservative, I tend to like those mail and news readers that somewhat resemble the much abused Outlook Express, especially as used by me in its FidoLook incarnation (note the appearance of the quotes in this post). Outlook Express has deficiencies in setting rules but a kill-file is simple. I noticed that I received a number of duplicate replies, ie. both to me and the group. Unfortunately, gmane.org insists on a real e-mail address not the obvious but munged one I use on other servers. This has the double advantage of preventing duplication and frustrating spamming address robots. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations as used on other news servers: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 20:31:02 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:31:02 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <52fe24490702020633w61f4b591xfb8f6458ceb6a364@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Tony! You wrote on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:33:28 -0500: TK> Because it is web based it is platform and computer TK> independent. You can log in and check your feeds from TK> anywhere with an internet connection. It also handles TK> podcasts feeds. TK> On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: ??>> I have been experimenting with the live disc version of ??>> Ubuntu 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs ??>> made available and am coming close to nerving myself to do ??>> a full installation. I was disappointed not to be able to ??>> find an online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to ??>> the best such newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? ??>> ??>> James Silverton ??>> Potomac, Maryland ??>> ??>> -- ??>> ubuntu-users mailing list ??>> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com ??>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Thanks very much to everyone who replied so promptly and informatively. I can see that I am going to to have to do a lot of testing when I install Ubuntu. It's really a pity that the Ubuntu 6.10 live disk does not seem to allow experimentation here. Knoppix (an absolutely wonderful achievement, IMHO) allows a great deal of testing and I have been rather pleased with Knode and Thunderbird. Of course, Knode is oriented to KDE like Knoppix itself. My apologies to everyone if this post arrives twice. I was in process of sending it when Comcast managed to cut the cable (really and literally!) Being rather conservative, I tend to like those mail and news readers that somewhat resemble the much abused Outlook Express, especially as used by me in its FidoLook incarnation (note the appearance of the quotes in this post). Outlook Express has deficiencies in setting rules but a kill-file is simple. I noticed that I received a number of duplicate replies, ie. both to me and the group. Unfortunately, gmane.org insists on a real e-mail address not the obvious but munged one I use on other servers. This has the double advantage of preventing duplication and frustrating spamming address robots. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations as used on other news servers: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not James Silverton Potomac, Maryland From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 20:42:08 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:42:08 +0100 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6293f10702021242u1e98f951g6194387451cc1966@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: > I have been experimenting with the live disc version of Ubuntu > 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs made > available and am coming close to nerving myself to do a full > installation. I was disappointed not to be able to find an > online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to the best such > newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? If you're talkiing about an RSS aggregator, then http://reader.google.com. If you're talking about a NNTP reader, I would suggest Pan. From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 20:55:47 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:55:47 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <6f6293f10702021242u1e98f951g6194387451cc1966@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Felipe! You wrote on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:42:08 +0100: FAS> On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: ??>> I have been experimenting with the live disc version of ??>> Ubuntu 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs ??>> made available and am coming close to nerving myself to do ??>> a full installation. I was disappointed not to be able to ??>> find an online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to ??>> the best such newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? FAS> If you're talkiing about an RSS aggregator, then FAS> http://reader.google.com. If you're talking about a NNTP reader, I FAS> would suggest Pan. As I said a little earlier, you people have given me a lot to think about. To me, an "online reader" is different from an RSS aggregator but I'm no expert on terminology :-) James Silverton Potomac, Maryland From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Fri Feb 2 21:01:40 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:01:40 +0100 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <6f6293f10702021242u1e98f951g6194387451cc1966@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702021301j40db030fmf57d7cb33d7a5970@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, Felipe! > You wrote on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:42:08 +0100: > > FAS> On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> > wrote: > ??>> I have been experimenting with the live disc version of > ??>> Ubuntu 6.10 and have been very impressed with the programs > ??>> made available and am coming close to nerving myself to do > ??>> a full installation. I was disappointed not to be able to > ??>> find an online newsreader. Is there any consensus as to > ??>> the best such newsreaders for Ubuntu or Linux in general? > > FAS> If you're talkiing about an RSS aggregator, then > FAS> http://reader.google.com. If you're talking about a NNTP > reader, I > FAS> would suggest Pan. > > As I said a little earlier, you people have given me a lot to > think about. To me, an "online reader" is different from an RSS > aggregator but I'm no expert on terminology :-) Well, Google's online reader is, in fact, an RSS aggregator, but implemented as a Web application. What do you mean when you think about "online reader"? From james at gray.net.au Fri Feb 2 21:03:03 2007 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:03:03 +1100 Subject: telnetd In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0702021124o2c371907x3daf3fcd4f259b58@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0702021124o2c371907x3daf3fcd4f259b58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C3A707.40606@gray.net.au> User Iam wrote: > Hi > > Just installed telnetd.. > > Why can't I telnet into myself.. > > iam at suna:~$ telnet localhost > Trying 127.0.0.1... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > iam at suna:~$ > > > talk dgram udp wait nobody.tty > /usr/sbin/in.talkd in.talkd > ntalk dgram udp wait nobody.tty > /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd in.ntalkd > telnet stream tcp nowait telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd > /etc/inetd.conf (END) > > > What am I missing??? Is inetd actually listening for incoming telnet connections? netstat -a | grep LIST You should see a line that lists telnet. If not, restart inetd: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart FWIW, why do you want to use telnet? It's unencrypted and as a result extremely insecure. Why not use SSH? Cheers, James From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Fri Feb 2 21:08:27 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 16:08:27 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <6f6293f10702021242u1e98f951g6194387451cc1966@mail.gmail.com> <6f6293f10702021301j40db030fmf57d7cb33d7a5970@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Felipe Alfaro Solana" wrote in message news:6f6293f10702021301j40db030fmf57d7cb33d7a5970 at mail.gmail.com... > On 2/2/07, James Silverton <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> wrote: >> Hello, Felipe! >> >> As I said a little earlier, you people have given me a lot to >> think about. To me, an "online reader" is different from an >> RSS >> aggregator but I'm no expert on terminology :-) > > Well, Google's online reader is, in fact, an RSS aggregator, > but > implemented as a Web application. What do you mean when you > think > about "online reader"? My mental impression is that an "online reader" is one that uses a real-time, active connection to a news site. -- Jim Silverton Potomac, Maryland From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Feb 2 21:59:31 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:59:31 +1100 Subject: telnetd In-Reply-To: <45C3A707.40606@gray.net.au> References: <727fc2ee0702021124o2c371907x3daf3fcd4f259b58@mail.gmail.com> <45C3A707.40606@gray.net.au> Message-ID: <20070203085931.3bc4d54a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:03:03 +1100 James Gray wrote: > You should see a line that lists telnet. If not, restart inetd: > sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart $ less /etc/init.d/inetd /etc/init.d/inetd: No such file or directory there is no inetd by default in Ubuntu ... > > FWIW, why do you want to use telnet? It's unencrypted and as a result > extremely insecure. Why not use SSH? Fully agreed :) Peter From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Feb 2 22:14:16 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:14:16 +0100 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702022214.l12MEJbN017076@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> However, I've googled exactly one story of someone who successfully got a key from MS to run it, and he spent many hours on the phone with both Dell & MS to reach that point (carefully, if I can read between the lines, never mentioning that the version he was trying to run was running in a VM). So if I don't find such a patch (sue me Microsoft!) I'm reverting to Win98SE which will do the job just fine for the only software I care about. -- Derek I have reinstalled windows a few times. When it gets to the "too many" point Micostuffed shows a screen that asks you to call a number and they will issue a new key. For me the number was for the uk and free. HTH From larry at isp.com Fri Feb 2 22:19:40 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:19:40 -0600 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> Message-ID: <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Hello Bhavani, I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it tells me that I am missing a plugin... That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both Automatix2 & Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of ubuntu not 6.10...? Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu dapper 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... Thanks for the reply... Larry Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > Dear Sir, > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the > error....You might try out these options... > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re 1.5 > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and > install the java plugin... > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for > automatix) and install the java plugin... > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download it... > yours faitfully, > Bhavani Shankar. > > > > >> From: larry > > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > discussions" > >> < ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List > > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > >> > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox > 2.0... > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but > for some > >> reason I can not get it to work... > >> > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > >> > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > >> > >> Larry > >> * > >> > Hello Dennis, > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the Yahoo > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the plugin... > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have j2re1.4 > runtime enviroment > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... > > But it still does not work for me... > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... > > Thanks to all that responded... > > Larry > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... > -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Feb 2 22:41:19 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:41:19 +0100 Subject: DVD Burning: so much better (Kudos) In-Reply-To: <45C37EB1.5050702@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <200702022241.l12MfWnj021244@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> I can't claim a single atom of the glory- you guys did it all. And people like you in the kernel, networking, and other parts. Everyone who writes code, or helps find bugs in it, you rock. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Brian, I agree with you this is the best operating "area" I have ever used on a "PC". I think the ubuntu team deserve a lot of credit. Thanks guys, and I hope that you succeed in all your endeavours. Regards From james.gray at dot.com.au Fri Feb 2 23:07:16 2007 From: james.gray at dot.com.au (James Gray) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:07:16 +1100 Subject: telnetd In-Reply-To: <20070203085931.3bc4d54a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <727fc2ee0702021124o2c371907x3daf3fcd4f259b58@mail.gmail.com> <45C3A707.40606@gray.net.au> <20070203085931.3bc4d54a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45C3C424.4080606@dot.com.au> Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:03:03 +1100 > James Gray wrote: > >> You should see a line that lists telnet. If not, restart inetd: >> sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart > > $ less /etc/init.d/inetd > /etc/init.d/inetd: No such file or directory > > there is no inetd by default in Ubuntu ... Quite possible - inetd was deprecated years ago by xinetd and even more recently by launchd (and it's friends). 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TIA -Erik From albertwagner at cox.net Sat Feb 3 00:26:39 2007 From: albertwagner at cox.net (Albert Wagner) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:26:39 -0600 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> Message-ID: <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> Stephen R Laniel wrote: > Times change. Language changes. Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by the illiterate. Newspeak double-plus bad. From garyjarrel at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 00:34:00 2007 From: garyjarrel at gmail.com (Gary Jarrel) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:34:00 +1100 Subject: Matrox dual-head graphics card not working in edgy In-Reply-To: <39da2baa0701300618y41b16af5lfe63b403dfd0cdb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <39da2baa0701300618y41b16af5lfe63b403dfd0cdb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <995b0fb00702021634s30c496fbufba88afff84992a7@mail.gmail.com> I ran into a similar problem with my quad head card, try passing the -ignoreABI switch to xorg when starting. Perhaps http://www.nabble.com/gdm-and--ignoreABI-for-Xorg-in-Fedore-Core-6-t2520878.html might be of some help as well! Cheers, -garyj On 1/31/07, James Cummings wrote: > Hiya, > > A recent upgrade to edgy has killed my dual-head matrox card. By that > I mean that it now only works with one monitor. > > I believe this is because there isn't a mga_hal driver available for xorg 7.1.1. > > the xorg log says: > > (II) Module mga_hal: vendor="Matrox Graphics Inc. - x86_32 - Release v4.4.0" > compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 > (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) > (II) UnloadModule: "mga_hal" > (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/mga_hal_drv.so > > So I assume this means I need to hold on until matrox release an > updated driver? I just thought I'd ask in case I'm missing something. > Once you have two monitors going back to one feels so constricting. > > -James > -- > James Cummings, Cummings dot James at GMail dot com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From vramnum10 at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 01:10:40 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:10:40 -0800 Subject: telnetd In-Reply-To: <20070203085931.3bc4d54a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <727fc2ee0702021124o2c371907x3daf3fcd4f259b58@mail.gmail.com> <45C3A707.40606@gray.net.au> <20070203085931.3bc4d54a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702021710v56b5e1b6x5a71c76ed6156f50@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:03:03 +1100 > James Gray wrote: > > > You should see a line that lists telnet. If not, restart inetd: > > sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart > > $ less /etc/init.d/inetd > /etc/init.d/inetd: No such file or directory > > there is no inetd by default in Ubuntu ... > > > > > FWIW, why do you want to use telnet? It's unencrypted and as a result > > extremely insecure. Why not use SSH? My point exactly.. I wanted to run it , ssh, and ethereal... To look at the password.. TIA User Iam Fully agreed :) > > Peter > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this why flavour, neighbour, etc became flavor, neighbor etc? :-) Nikolai From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sat Feb 3 01:30:11 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:30:11 -0800 Subject: Automatix2 or not Message-ID: There has been some recommendations to use Automatix2 for installing packages, such as java, flash, and others, from the users list, not to mention sites like 'The unofficial Ubuntu Site'. Some say that it may cause problems with dependency's . Others say it's ok if the package doesn't contain dependency's. Is this true? If true, and your new to Ubuntu such as myself, how do you know which packages use dependency's and which don't? Dennis _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sat Feb 3 01:42:12 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:42:12 -0800 Subject: update with aptitude, install with aptitude Message-ID: Is it ok to use update with aptitude, install with aptitude with a fresh Edgy install? Dennis _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 01:58:56 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:58:56 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) Message-ID: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, what are people's favourite interfaces for controlling servers (apache, smb, etc.)? Remotely? Locally? Specifically, I'm thinking of apache (httpd), samba and apple file sharing. I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build it from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). Thanks, Eric. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Feb 3 02:07:42 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:07:42 -0800 Subject: java References: <1170459021.4337.2.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <87abzw3sep.fsf@fjellstad.org> Erik Schmidt writes: > I know I've asked this before, but I lost the answer > > how do I install java on my machine running ubuntu 6.10 > > I seem to remember that teh package name has somethng to do with > "sun-java5", but when I do a search for "sun-java5" in synaptic package > manager, I get only things that cannot be installed due to unresolved > dependencies. when I search for the package that the sun-java5 package > seems to be dependant on, I get nothing > > I know universal and that other thing are turned on > > so, what do I do? Enable multiverse -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From fmccormick at videotron.ca Sat Feb 3 02:13:39 2007 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:13:39 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> Message-ID: <20070202211339.152f6e34.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:22:35 +1000 Nikolai wrote: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:26:39 -0600 > Albert Wagner wrote: > > > > Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse > > by the illiterate. Newspeak double-plus bad. > > Is this why flavour, neighbour, etc became flavor, neighbor etc? :-) Flavour, neighbour etc is British (and Canadian) spelling -- flavor etc is American. Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFw+/TzWG7ldLG6fIRAlTJAJ919IL4leDIZf5Wr/T7aCVOknETjwCeLbdJ 8l6QQkIlOvBKomzY68qAYbw= =0iC0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 3 02:13:56 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:13:56 -0500 Subject: java In-Reply-To: <1170459021.4337.2.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1170459021.4337.2.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <45C3EFE4.4030907@gatech.edu> Erik Schmidt wrote: > I know I've asked this before, but I lost the answer > > how do I install java on my machine running ubuntu 6.10 > > I seem to remember that teh package name has somethng to do with > "sun-java5", but when I do a search for "sun-java5" in synaptic package > manager, I get only things that cannot be installed due to unresolved > dependencies. when I search for the package that the sun-java5 package > seems to be dependant on, I get nothing > > I know universal and that other thing are turned on Depends what "that other thing" is. Sun Java is non-free, so you would need to enable multiverse. Then, the runtime package is sun-java5-bin . However, I recommend using GCJ, a libre implementation, instead. Install java-gcj-compat-plugin and you should get everything you need. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ljpino at grm.net Sat Feb 3 02:15:08 2007 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:15:08 -0600 Subject: Automatix2 or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C3F02C.6090509@grm.net> Dennis Castanos wrote: > There has been some recommendations to use Automatix2 for installing > packages, such as java, flash, and others, from the users list, not to > mention sites like 'The unofficial Ubuntu Site'. Some say that it may > cause problems with dependency's . Others say it's ok if the package > doesn't contain dependency's. Is this true? > > If true, and your new to Ubuntu such as myself, how do you know which > packages use dependency's and which don't? > > Dennis > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > Academy Awards® > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 > > If you want to better control what is on your computer, add the packages yourself! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications Between those two links, you can probably do most things that Automatix would do for you. In most cases, if there is something that you want, then there are instructions somewhere on how to get it. If you just want things put on your computer without having to take time to learn how to do it yourself, automatix will speed things up. You might want to go through some of the other conversations on the subject. Just put this in google: automatix site:lists.ubuntu.com ~Lorin From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sat Feb 3 02:21:51 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:21:51 -0800 Subject: java In-Reply-To: <87abzw3sep.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: Install Java 1.5 update 10 edgy reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html below are the cammands for update 10 Install java-package though Synaptic Package Manager Make the downloaded file executable change directory in terminal chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin To install JRE, first build an Ubuntu package. Type fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin Then install the package you have built: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update11_i386.deb To get your system to use Sun Java instead of the open-source (but less functional) GIJ that is installed by default, run: sudo update-alternatives --config java and choose the option that has j2re1.5-sun in it. This went smooth for me - Dennis >From: John L Fjellstad >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Re: java >Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:07:42 -0800 > >Erik Schmidt writes: > > > I know I've asked this before, but I lost the answer > > > > how do I install java on my machine running ubuntu 6.10 > > > > I seem to remember that teh package name has somethng to do with > > "sun-java5", but when I do a search for "sun-java5" in synaptic package > > manager, I get only things that cannot be installed due to unresolved > > dependencies. when I search for the package that the sun-java5 package > > seems to be dependant on, I get nothing > > > > I know universal and that other thing are turned on > > > > so, what do I do? > >Enable multiverse > >-- >John L. Fjellstad >web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo � buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 3 02:26:49 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:26:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi all, what are people's favourite interfaces for controlling servers > (apache, smb, etc.)? Remotely? Locally? > > Specifically, I'm thinking of apache (httpd), samba and apple file > sharing. I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the > repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build it > from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). Webmin is available as a .deb right off the front page. Top right, third line... "Download: tar.gz | RPM | DEB" http://www.webmin.com/ -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 02:34:26 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:34:26 +0800 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> Message-ID: <1170470066.4060.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 18:26 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: > Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by > the illiterate. Incorrect statements about language are almost invariably the result of people who haven't even bothered reading the most elementary texts of linguistics. -- Michael T. 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Some say that it may > > cause problems with dependency's . Others say it's ok if the package > > doesn't contain dependency's. Is this true? > > > > If true, and your new to Ubuntu such as myself, how do you know which > > packages use dependency's and which don't? > > > > Dennis > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > > Academy Awards� > > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 > > > > >If you want to better control what is on your computer, add the packages >yourself! >https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats >https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications >Between those two links, you can probably do most things that Automatix >would do for you. In most cases, if there is something that you want, >then there are instructions somewhere on how to get it. > >If you just want things put on your computer without having to take time >to learn how to do it yourself, automatix will speed things up. You >might want to go through some of the other conversations on the subject. >Just put this in google: automatix site:lists.ubuntu.com > >~Lorin > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 02:48:15 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:48:15 -0500 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu Message-ID: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS formatted partition into Ubuntu as a READ-WRITE partition without success. Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a "read-only file system". I've tried numerous tricks as reported for the Ubuntu Live CDs (in "rescue" mode) and they've all come up blank: e.g. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if this is a no-brainer question... I've never had to deal with NTFS partitions before). How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? Thanks, Eric. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 02:49:12 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:49:12 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> On 02/02/07, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > Hi all, what are people's favourite interfaces for controlling servers > > (apache, smb, etc.)? Remotely? Locally? > > > > Specifically, I'm thinking of apache (httpd), samba and apple file > > sharing. I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the > > repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build it > > from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). > > Webmin is available as a .deb right off the front page. Top right, third > line... "Download: tar.gz | RPM | DEB" > > http://www.webmin.com/ Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu repositories? Eric. From david at kosmosisland.com Sat Feb 3 02:55:38 2007 From: david at kosmosisland.com (David Koski) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:55:38 -0800 Subject: java In-Reply-To: <45C3EFE4.4030907@gatech.edu> References: <1170459021.4337.2.camel@erik-laptop> <45C3EFE4.4030907@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702021855.38120.david@kosmosisland.com> On Friday 02 February 2007 18:13, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > However, I recommend using GCJ, a libre implementation, instead. > Install java-gcj-compat-plugin and you should get everything you need. FYI: "Sun Opens Jave" http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/ David From james at jamesandportia.com Sat Feb 3 03:19:34 2007 From: james at jamesandportia.com (James Bertelson) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:19:34 -0800 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> You'll want to use ntfs-3g. Note that it's still "experimental" but pretty stable. I've had no problems, large writes are a bit slow though. To install: aptitude install ntfs-3g then change your mount command to: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs-3g Or add it to your /etc/fstab file to mount on boot with the line below: /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:48 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hello all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS formatted partition into Ubuntu > as a READ-WRITE partition without success. > > Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a "read-only file > system". I've tried numerous tricks as reported for the Ubuntu Live > CDs (in "rescue" mode) and they've all come up blank: > > e.g. > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 > > This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if this is a > no-brainer question... I've never had to deal with NTFS partitions > before). > > How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? > > Thanks, Eric. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 03:24:46 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:24:46 -0500 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> So why isn't NTFS supported natively? It's been around for a long time (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things so would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like features of Windows NT/XP Pro). Eric. On 02/02/07, James Bertelson wrote: > > You'll want to use ntfs-3g. Note that it's still "experimental" but pretty > stable. I've had no problems, large writes are a bit slow though. > > To install: > aptitude install ntfs-3g > > then change your mount command to: > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs-3g > > Or add it to your /etc/fstab file to mount on boot with the line below: > > /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 > > > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:48 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hello all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS formatted partition into Ubuntu > as a READ-WRITE partition without success. > > Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a "read-only file > system". I've tried numerous tricks as reported for the Ubuntu Live > CDs (in "rescue" mode) and they've all come up blank: > > e.g. > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 > > This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if this is a > no-brainer question... I've never had to deal with NTFS partitions > before). > > How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? > > Thanks, Eric. > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > From simon at swedishdrunkard.com Sat Feb 3 03:33:52 2007 From: simon at swedishdrunkard.com (Simon Skogh) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:33:52 -0800 Subject: Console RSS parser with autodownloader Message-ID: <45C402A0.3040006@swedishdrunkard.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know if there exists a program that can automatically download new RSS feeds and fetch the links based on search terms, all running from the console? I have a home-hacked little script that works fairly decent in performing these duties, using grep and sed to decipher the needed parts of the feed and then performing the download via wget, but if there was a ready-made, well working application out there already I'd much rather use that. One of the reasons is that my script (in its current version) tends to not play well when faced with feeds other than the site it was originally built to work with. I hope I made my inquiry clear enough to understand and hope to get some ideas on this little problem of mine. :) / Simon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFxAKfz+/vk9aBZhMRAldpAJ48ljXMSsYY79giB0v17eu2a452/gCfTqwc ksN9W9qmr22H/FgsTqCRidY= =Vn+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Sat Feb 3 03:44:38 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:44:38 -0500 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Eric! You wrote on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:48:15 -0500: ED> Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a ED> "read-only file system". I've tried numerous tricks as ED> reported for the Ubuntu Live CDs (in "rescue" mode) and ED> they've all come up blank: ED> e.g. ED> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 ED> This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if ED> this is a no-brainer question... I've never had to deal ED> with NTFS partitions before). ED> How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? I'm no expert on this subject but you might be interested in the January 2007 issue of Linux Pro Magazine. It's a British magazine I think but it's readily available in Borders and Barnes and Noble etc. The featured topic is accessing Windows partitions and there seem to be quite a few programs available. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 3 04:02:35 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:02:35 -0500 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C4095B.3080006@gatech.edu> Eric Dunbar wrote: > So why isn't NTFS supported natively? My understanding is that it's proprietary and sparsely documented. It's been around for a long time > (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the > Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things I would guess you're wrong here. The hardcore people mostly started with UNIX, I think. so > would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like > features of Windows NT/XP Pro). Again, I'm not sure, but I think NTFS is less robust than e.g. ReiserFS for typical use. Matthew Flaschen > > Eric. > > On 02/02/07, James Bertelson wrote: >> You'll want to use ntfs-3g. Note that it's still "experimental" but pretty >> stable. I've had no problems, large writes are a bit slow though. >> >> To install: >> aptitude install ntfs-3g >> >> then change your mount command to: >> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs-3g >> >> Or add it to your /etc/fstab file to mount on boot with the line below: >> >> /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 >> >> >> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:48 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> Hello all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS formatted partition into Ubuntu >> as a READ-WRITE partition without success. >> >> Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a "read-only file >> system". I've tried numerous tricks as reported for the Ubuntu Live >> CDs (in "rescue" mode) and they've all come up blank: >> >> e.g. >> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 >> >> This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if this is a >> no-brainer question... I've never had to deal with NTFS partitions >> before). >> >> How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? >> >> Thanks, Eric. >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-users mailing list >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The version of Sun Java in the repositories has no source and a very unfree license (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1/sun-java5-doc.copyright). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 04:11:17 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:41:17 +0530 Subject: booting problem In-Reply-To: <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511@mail.gmail.com> References: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Make sure the system meets min required config... It requires min of 256MB ram to run smoothly.. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, Roger Neth Jr wrote: > > Hello Johnny, this is from the Ubuntu server guide. I imagine this applies > to 6.06. > > Roger > > Romans 3:23 > > 2.1.1. System Requirements > > Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition supports three (3) major architectures: Intel > x86, AMD64, and PowerPC. The table below lists recommended hardware > specifications. Depending on your needs, you might manage with less than > this. However, most users risk being frustrated if they ignore these > suggestions. > Table 2-1 Recommended Minimum Requirements > Install Type RAM Hard Drive Space > Server 64 megabytes 500 megabytes > > The default profile for the Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition is shown below. > Once again, the size of the installation will greatly depend on the services > you install during setup. For most administrators, the default services are > suitable for general server use. > > Server > > This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all > sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the desired > services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting, email > hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space would suffice, > but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd like to host > with your server. > > Remember that these sizes don't include all the other materials which are > usually to be found, such as user files, mail, logs, and data. It is always > best to be generous when considering the space for your own files and data. > > On 2/2/07, Johnny wrote: > > > I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a > > CPU 150 > > Ram 32mb > > Installed went very will now I can't boot into it > > Grub comes up but it reboots every time > > what do I need to do to fix this > > I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options > > Still reboots every time but not into the system > > > > Johnny > > > > -- > > ******************************* > > ******************************* > > Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 > > Ubuntu User number is # 11285 > > Registed Linux user #310190 > > Registed Machine #250193 > > > > ******************************* > > ******************************* > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > Roger D Neth Jr > Owner > > M&R Services > 651Cannery Row, Suite 11 > Monterey, CA 93940 > > Office 831-641-9255 > Fax 831-641-9255 > > e-mail baypos at gmail.com > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 04:27:12 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:57:12 +0530 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45C4095B.3080006@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> <45C4095B.3080006@gatech.edu> Message-ID: yes ntfs package must be used otherwise there is no support.. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > So why isn't NTFS supported natively? > > My understanding is that it's proprietary and sparsely documented. > > It's been around for a long time > > (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the > > Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things > > I would guess you're wrong here. The hardcore people mostly started > with UNIX, I think. > > so > > would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like > > features of Windows NT/XP Pro). > > Again, I'm not sure, but I think NTFS is less robust than e.g. ReiserFS > for typical use. > > Matthew Flaschen > > > > > Eric. > > > > On 02/02/07, James Bertelson wrote: > >> You'll want to use ntfs-3g. Note that it's still "experimental" but > pretty > >> stable. I've had no problems, large writes are a bit slow though. > >> > >> To install: > >> aptitude install ntfs-3g > >> > >> then change your mount command to: > >> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs-3g > >> > >> Or add it to your /etc/fstab file to mount on boot with the line > below: > >> > >> /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:48 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > >> Hello all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS formatted partition into Ubuntu > >> as a READ-WRITE partition without success. > >> > >> Each time I try mounting it I can only get it as a "read-only file > >> system". I've tried numerous tricks as reported for the Ubuntu Live > >> CDs (in "rescue" mode) and they've all come up blank: > >> > >> e.g. > >> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 > >> > >> This gives me read-only access to NTFS (my apologies if this is a > >> no-brainer question... I've never had to deal with NTFS partitions > >> before). > >> > >> How can I _write_ to the NTFS partition? > >> > >> Thanks, Eric. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-users mailing list > >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 04:36:46 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:06:46 +0530 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Message-ID: certainly there is a problemin installing easyubuntu for 6.10, you can use automatix2 as you have told or search for mozilla addons in google and install or http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html. may help you. Thanking you. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, larry wrote: > > Hello Bhavani, > > I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which > again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it tells me > that I am missing a plugin... > > That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both Automatix2 & > Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest > version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... > > Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of ubuntu not > 6.10...? > > Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu dapper > 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... > > Thanks for the reply... > > Larry > > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the > > error....You might try out these options... > > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re 1.5 > > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. > > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and > > install the java plugin... > > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for > > automatix) and install the java plugin... > > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download it... > > yours faitfully, > > Bhavani Shankar. > > > > > > > >> From: larry > > > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > > discussions" > > >> < ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List > > > > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox > > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > > >> > > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox > > 2.0... > > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but > > for some > > >> reason I can not get it to work... > > >> > > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users list... > > >> > > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > > >> > > >> Larry > > >> * > > >> > > Hello Dennis, > > > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the Yahoo > > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the > plugin... > > > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have j2re1.4 > > runtime enviroment > > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... > > > > But it still does not work for me... > > > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... > > > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... > > > > Thanks to all that responded... > > > > Larry > > > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... > > > > -- > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > > "This is Linux Country, > on a quiet night you can hear > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 04:44:06 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:14:06 +0530 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Message-ID: However, I recommend using GCJ, a libre implementation, instead.nstall java-gcj-compat-plugin and you should get everything you need. Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > certainly there is a problemin installing easyubuntu for 6.10, you can use > automatix2 as you have told or search for mozilla addons in google and > install or http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html. may help you. > Thanking you. > Bhavani Shankar. > > On 2/3/07, larry < larry at isp.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Bhavani, > > > > I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which > > again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it tells me > > that I am missing a plugin... > > > > That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both Automatix2 & > > Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest > > version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... > > > > Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of ubuntu not > > 6.10...? > > > > Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu dapper > > 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... > > > > Thanks for the reply... > > > > Larry > > > > > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the > > > error....You might try out these options... > > > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re 1.5 > > > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. > > > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and > > > install the java plugin... > > > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for > > > automatix) and install the java plugin... > > > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download it... > > > > > yours faitfully, > > > Bhavani Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > >> From: larry > > > > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > > > discussions" > > > >> < ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List > > > > > > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox > > > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > > > >> > > > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox > > > 2.0... > > > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but > > > for some > > > >> reason I can not get it to work... > > > >> > > > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users > > list... > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > > > >> > > > >> Larry > > > >> * > > > >> > > > Hello Dennis, > > > > > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the > > Yahoo > > > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the > > plugin... > > > > > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have > > j2re1.4 > > > runtime enviroment > > > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... > > > > > > But it still does not work for me... > > > > > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... > > > > > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... > > > > > > Thanks to all that responded... > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... > > > > > > > -- > > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > > > > "This is Linux Country, > > on a quiet night you can hear > > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > > > > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E > > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 3 05:00:10 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:00:10 -0500 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Message-ID: <45C416DA.8070802@gatech.edu> Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > However, I recommend using GCJ, a libre implementation, instead.nstall > java-gcj-compat-plugin and you should get everything you need. > Bhavani Shankar. Heh. You copied that from my post above? Whatever, share the wisdom. :) Matt Flaschen > > > On 2/3/07, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >> certainly there is a problemin installing easyubuntu for 6.10, you can >> use >> automatix2 as you have told or search for mozilla addons in google and >> install or http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html. may help you. >> Thanking you. >> Bhavani Shankar. >> >> On 2/3/07, larry < larry at isp.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hello Bhavani, >> > >> > I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which >> > again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it tells me >> > that I am missing a plugin... >> > >> > That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both >> Automatix2 & >> > Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest >> > version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... >> > >> > Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of ubuntu not >> > 6.10...? >> > >> > Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu dapper >> > 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... >> > >> > Thanks for the reply... >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > >> > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> > > Dear Sir, >> > > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the >> > > error....You might try out these options... >> > > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re >> 1.5 >> > > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. >> > > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and >> > > install the java plugin... >> > > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for >> > > automatix) and install the java plugin... >> > > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download >> it... >> > >> > > yours faitfully, >> > > Bhavani Shankar. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> From: larry > >> > > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >> > > discussions" >> > > >> < ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > > > >> > > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List > > > > >> > > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox >> > > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 >> > > >> >> > > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java for, Firefox >> > > 2.0... >> > > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, but >> > > for some >> > > >> reason I can not get it to work... >> > > >> >> > > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users >> > list... >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... >> > > >> >> > > >> Larry >> > > >> * >> > > >> >> > > Hello Dennis, >> > > >> > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the >> > Yahoo >> > > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the >> > plugin... >> > > >> > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have >> > j2re1.4 >> > > runtime enviroment >> > > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... >> > > >> > > But it still does not work for me... >> > > >> > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version 6.10... >> > > >> > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... >> > > >> > > Thanks to all that responded... >> > > >> > > Larry >> > > >> > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux >> > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 >> > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. >> > >> > "This is Linux Country, >> > on a quiet night you can hear >> > WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" >> > >> > GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E >> > Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-users mailing list >> > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 3 05:58:38 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 02/02/07, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > > > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Hi all, what are people's favourite interfaces for controlling > > > servers (apache, smb, etc.)? Remotely? Locally? > > > > > > Specifically, I'm thinking of apache (httpd), samba and apple file > > > sharing. I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the > > > repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build > > > it from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). > > > > Webmin is available as a .deb right off the front page. Top right, > > third line... "Download: tar.gz | RPM | DEB" > > > > http://www.webmin.com/ > > Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > repositories? Don't have a clue. :) Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the >>>> repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build >>>> it from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). >>> Webmin is available as a .deb right off the front page. Top right, >>> third line... "Download: tar.gz | RPM | DEB" >>> >>> http://www.webmin.com/ >> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu >> repositories? > > Don't have a clue. :) > > Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. That's certainly possible; the program is available on sourceforge, and claims to be BSD, but sourceforge doesn't seem to give a damn about vetting their code. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Depending on your needs, you might manage > with less than this. However, most users risk being frustrated if > they ignore these suggestions. > Table 2-1 Recommended Minimum Requirements > Install Type RAM Hard Drive Space > Server 64 megabytes 500 megabytes > > The default profile for the Ubuntu 6.10 Server Edition is shown > below. Once again, the size of the installation will greatly > depend on the services you install during setup. For most > administrators, the default services are suitable for general > server use. > > Server > > This is a small server profile, which provides a common base > for all sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to > have the desired services added on top, such as file/print > services, web hosting, email hosting, etc. For these services at > least 500MB of disk space would suffice, but consider adding more > space depending on the services you'd like to host with your server. > > Remember that these sizes don't include all the other materials > which are usually to be found, such as user files, mail, logs, and > data. It is always best to be generous when considering the space > for your own files and data. > > On 2/2/07, *Johnny* < linuxhamuser at gmail.com > > wrote: > > I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server on a > CPU 150 > Ram 32mb > Installed went very will now I can't boot into it > Grub comes up but it reboots every time > what do I need to do to fix this > I did a search on Ubuntu Forum tried some of the options > Still reboots every time but not into the system > > Johnny > > -- > ******************************* > ******************************* > Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 > Ubuntu User number is # 11285 > Registed Linux user #310190 > Registed Machine #250193 > > > ******************************* > ******************************* > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > Roger D Neth Jr > Owner > > M&R Services > 651Cannery Row, Suite 11 > Monterey, CA 93940 > > Office 831-641-9255 > Fax 831-641-9255 > > e-mail baypos at gmail.com > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > This is what I am trying to do Install Ubuntu on low memory system ******https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems I got Ubuntu-server 6.06 installed fine, but I am having booting problem I see the Grub boot-loader come up at the end boot it reboot the system and it keeps doing that. I tried to rescue using the shell to get into the system but I looked and I did not see any way to get into or mount /dev/hda? to fix things. I have used Debian to get back in to the system using /target it mounts /dev/hda? to fix what needs to done or install something. But Ubuntu-server 6.06 using the shell does show the /target but its not there to get into the system. Johnny -- ******************************* ******************************* Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 Ubuntu User number is # 11285 Registed Linux user #310190 Registed Machine #250193 ******************************* ******************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sat Feb 3 06:28:03 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:28:03 +1100 Subject: booting problem In-Reply-To: References: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070203172803.c0a7c459.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:41:17 +0530 "Bhavani Shankar R" wrote: > Make sure the system meets min required config... It requires min of 256MB > ram to run smoothly.. No, that applies ( approximately) for the Ubuntu desktop - the Original Poster was asking about the server, which is text/command line only by default. 64 MB should be enough or that, possibly 32 MB would be too low even for the server edition, although a very minimal install on 32 MB would probably be possible. Peter From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 06:30:54 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 12:00:54 +0530 Subject: booting problem In-Reply-To: <20070203172803.c0a7c459.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45C388AE.2090601@gmail.com> <731b056b0702021104p5d76f2fas803cf864a6335511@mail.gmail.com> <20070203172803.c0a7c459.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Yes sir.... A minimal install is possible.... Regards, Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:41:17 +0530 > "Bhavani Shankar R" wrote: > > > Make sure the system meets min required config... It requires min of > 256MB > > ram to run smoothly.. > > No, that applies ( approximately) for the Ubuntu desktop - the Original > Poster was asking about the server, which is text/command line only by > default. > > 64 MB should be enough or that, possibly 32 MB would be too low even for > the server edition, although a very minimal install on 32 MB would > probably be possible. > > Peter > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sat Feb 3 06:32:29 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:32:29 +1100 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> Message-ID: <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > > repositories? > > Don't have a clue. :) > > Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some criticism of Webmin IIRC... Peter From right2bhavi at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 06:33:29 2007 From: right2bhavi at gmail.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 12:03:29 +0530 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C416DA.8070802@gatech.edu> References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> <45C416DA.8070802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Yes... Sorry for that... the only solution for this problem is GNU compiler java i think... Regards, Bhavani Shankar. On 2/3/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > However, I recommend using GCJ, a libre implementation, instead.nstall > > java-gcj-compat-plugin and you should get everything you need. > > Bhavani Shankar. > > Heh. You copied that from my post above? Whatever, share the wisdom. :) > > Matt Flaschen > > > > > > > On 2/3/07, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >> > >> certainly there is a problemin installing easyubuntu for 6.10, you can > >> use > >> automatix2 as you have told or search for mozilla addons in google and > >> install or http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html. may help you. > >> Thanking you. > >> Bhavani Shankar. > >> > >> On 2/3/07, larry < larry at isp.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hello Bhavani, > >> > > >> > I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which > >> > again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it tells > me > >> > that I am missing a plugin... > >> > > >> > That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both > >> Automatix2 & > >> > Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest > >> > version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... > >> > > >> > Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of ubuntu > not > >> > 6.10...? > >> > > >> > Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu > dapper > >> > 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... > >> > > >> > Thanks for the reply... > >> > > >> > Larry > >> > > >> > > >> > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >> > > Dear Sir, > >> > > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the > >> > > error....You might try out these options... > >> > > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for j2re > >> 1.5 > >> > > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. > >> > > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and > >> > > install the java plugin... > >> > > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for > >> > > automatix) and install the java plugin... > >> > > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download > >> it... > >> > > >> > > yours faitfully, > >> > > Bhavani Shankar. > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> From: larry > > >> > > >> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > >> > > discussions" > >> > > >> < ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > > > > >> > > >> To: Ubuntu-Users-List >> > > > > >> > > >> Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox > >> > > >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0600 > >> > > >> > >> > > >> *I am in need of some help on howto install Java > for, Firefox > >> > > 2.0... > >> > > >> I have installed it on prior versions of Firefox & Ubuntu, > but > >> > > for some > >> > > >> reason I can not get it to work... > >> > > >> > >> > > >> So I've come to the point of now asking the ubuntu users > >> > list... > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Thanks for any help anyone can offer... > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Larry > >> > > >> * > >> > > >> > >> > > Hello Dennis, > >> > > > >> > > I followed the instructions on the webpage, yet when I try the > >> > Yahoo > >> > > pool game site, it still is telling me that I am missing the > >> > plugin... > >> > > > >> > > Yet when I viewed what I have installed in Synaptic, I have > >> > j2re1.4 > >> > > runtime enviroment > >> > > j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for mozilla/firefox... > >> > > > >> > > But it still does not work for me... > >> > > > >> > > I do have java working on Ubuntu 6.06, but not on version > 6.10... > >> > > > >> > > I must not be doing something right for it too not work... > >> > > > >> > > Thanks to all that responded... > >> > > > >> > > Larry > >> > > > >> > > PS: maybe I will try Automatix2 and see what happens... > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux > >> > by Ubuntu ver 6.10 > >> > 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > >> > > >> > "This is Linux Country, > >> > on a quiet night you can hear > >> > WINDOZE ! 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URL: From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 07:54:33 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:54:33 +0100 Subject: update with aptitude, install with aptitude In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170489273.22467.11.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:42 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > Is it ok to use update with aptitude, install with aptitude with a > fresh Edgy install? Definitely. It is recommended over apt-get because it has better dependency resolution and a better twy to track what is installed. From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 07:55:51 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:55:51 +0100 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Message-ID: <1170489351.22467.13.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 10:06 +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > you can use automatix2 Read this before you make the decision: http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/10/30/automatix-and-upgrading From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 11:02:30 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 06:02:30 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use Message-ID: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> Hi, another question: I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache and smbd in that VM. What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? Thanks. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 11:06:19 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 06:06:19 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> On 03/02/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > > > Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > > > repositories? > > > > Don't have a clue. :) > > > > Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > > it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. > > My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no > longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief > on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu? > I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some > criticism of Webmin IIRC... Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e. non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)? From dave at boost-consulting.com Sat Feb 3 11:42:50 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 06:42:50 -0500 Subject: Feisty Herd 2 Testing/Bug Reporting? References: <87zm7w1se8.fsf@valverde.peloton> <20070202165406.4eddbaa4.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <87d54rzcud.fsf@valverde.peloton> Vincent Trouilliez writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >> >> I'd really like to test Feisty and help make it work well, but every >> link at >> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2#head-9e57fcc642038ed46eb2077ae5831672e87d4cb2 >> is broken and nobody is responding to my emails to the address >> (ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com) listed as the maintainer of that >> page. Can someone help, please? > > It's probably because Herd 3 has just been released ( a few hours ago) ! ;o) No, it's been that way for days, but I'm happy to see that the Herd 3 page links work fine. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From bcorbin at cfl.rr.com Sat Feb 3 11:55:25 2007 From: bcorbin at cfl.rr.com (Bruce) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 06:55:25 -0500 Subject: Disable Route Optimization in Linux Message-ID: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> Greetings, I'm working toward building up a couple of test fixtures that require me to generate multiple channels of Ethernet traffic. I have some Perl code that will allow me to send and receive traffic using specified local and peer ports. I seem to have only one problem that is preventing me from getting started. Linux is optimizing all my traffic to go through the default port. To be more specific, let's assume I have a 8 port switch to be tested. Assume I have two Linux boxes with a quad NIC card in each. Assume the 8 ports from the two quad NIC cards all get plugged into the switch. To test each switch port I need to be able to generate traffic from all 8 ports of the two quad NIC cards. Linux optimizes my routes and sends all traffic through the default eth port, even when I specify another port. Is there any way to turn off the router in Linux or at least override it with my desired routes? I have tried many combinations of "route add", "route del", "ip route add x.x.x.x via y.y.y.y. So far I am striking out. Any help would be appreciated. I am using Ubuntu 6.10 desktop on an Intel architecture box. Thank you, Bruce From gethemant at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 13:06:00 2007 From: gethemant at gmail.com (hemant) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:36:00 +0530 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper Message-ID: Hi, When I connect to remote machines from my local dapper workstation, after sometime my SSH session hangs without any apparent reason. I have literally searched internet for hours for a solution and people seem to have following reasons for this: - Poor DNS - Packet fragmentation and firewall problem, and bulk text freezes the session - Inactivity timeout. Although I won't call my DNS to be solid, but when I connect to the same machines using putty from Windows(which uses zonealarm firewall), ssh sessions work fine and doesn't hang as they hang in Linux. Many people had ssh session hangs, when the command entered in remote session transferred large amount of text. I can assure, you guys that, its not the case here. Even doing, small chunks transfer session freezes. And of course, its not inactivity timeout, it happens, when i would be in middle of entering some command. Also, interesting fact is, many of my collegues within same intranet complained about their putty throwing "garbled network data", but since I had zonealarm on, I didn't face any problems in Windows.(zonealarm seems to be ordering bytes or something like that in Windows and for me, I never get session hangs in Windows when using putty) I am literally frustrated here and would love any solution/points.(I hate booting into Windows, for working on remote machines) Also I am running firestarter on my machine. I also tried setting up MTU = 576 using ifconfig eth0 mtu 576, but doesn't seem to have any impact. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ----------------- inet addr:10.0.0.187 Bcast:10.10.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::215:f2ff:fe91:dc77/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:46986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:19000 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:21881243 (20.8 MiB) TX bytes:2177529 (2.0 MiB) Interrupt:217 Base address:0x2000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) TX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) Linux xaos 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux -- gnufied ----------- There was only one Road; that it was like a great river: its springs were at every doorstep, and every path was its tributary. From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sat Feb 3 13:48:11 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:48:11 +0000 Subject: Disable Route Optimization in Linux In-Reply-To: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> References: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <45C4929B.2010404@manchester.ac.uk> Bruce, Bruce wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm working toward building up a couple of test fixtures that require me > to generate multiple channels of Ethernet traffic. I have some Perl > code that will allow me to send and receive traffic using specified > local and peer ports. I seem to have only one problem that is > preventing me from getting started. Linux is optimizing all my traffic > to go through the default port. > > To be more specific, let's assume I have a 8 port switch to be tested. > Assume I have two Linux boxes with a quad NIC card in each. Assume the > 8 ports from the two quad NIC cards all get plugged into the switch. To > test each switch port I need to be able to generate traffic from all 8 > ports of the two quad NIC cards. Linux optimizes my routes and sends > all traffic through the default eth port, even when I specify another port. > > Is there any way to turn off the router in Linux or at least override it > with my desired routes? I have tried many combinations of "route add", > "route del", "ip route add x.x.x.x via y.y.y.y. So far I am striking > out. Any help would be appreciated. Do you have different networks numbers (i.e., logically and the netmask with the ip address and you should get a different answer for each interface) on each interface to make sure they are effectively on different networks so far as IP is concerned? You would also need to set up routes for each network/interface. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Feb 3 14:41:09 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:41:09 -0500 Subject: feisty upgrade breaks mdadm on amd64 Message-ID: <1170513669.10012.27.camel@localhost> hi, just tried upgrading my edgy amd64 system to feisty. the dist=upgrade went fine, with the usual difficulties as packages tried to overwrite each other, but reboot now fails with both the new feisty 2.6.20-6 kernels and the old edgy 2.6.17 kernel. The old kernels fail with the old "kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" error, which I'm thinking may have something to do with udev versions. The new kernels, however, hail with an error about mdadm: -------------- loading, please wait bogl_init failed: setting screen size: cannot allocate memory screen init failed mdadm: no devices listed in conf file were found. volume group not found check root- bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev alert! /dev/mapper/Anarres--64--main-root does not exist. dropping to a shell --------------------- I have been able to start the machine using a dapper-live cd I had lying around and the filesystems are all still fine. this is an lvm running on top of an mdadm RAID on 2 sata drives. chrooting into the broken system and trying to run dpkg-reconfigure mdadm I get the following errors: W: mdadm: failed to load MD subsystem. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-6-lowlatency W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz . W: mkconf: MD subsystem is not loaded, thus I cannot scan for arrays. W: mdadm: failed to auto-generate temporary mdadm.conf file. W: mdadm: using the unchecked file and hoping for the best... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic W: udev hook script requires at least kernel version 2.6.19 W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.17-10-generic invoke-rc.d: initscript mdadm-raid, action "start" failed. mdadm.conf reads: DEVICE partitions ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=a1c69140:16931871:f12033d8:e44398ce MAILADDR root I dont understand mdadm as well as I perhaps should and am wondering what I might do to try and fix this issue. thanks! matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Richter wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 18:26 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: >> Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by >> the illiterate. > > Incorrect statements about language are almost invariably the result of > people who haven't even bothered reading the most elementary texts of > linguistics. > Just what is the judgment of one who has read the most elementary texts of linguistics? And what would someone who has read advanced texts of linguistics think of that judgment? From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Feb 3 15:29:16 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:29:16 +0000 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C4AA4C.7050606@yandex.ru> Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi all, what are people's favourite interfaces for controlling servers > (apache, smb, etc.)? Remotely? Locally? > > Specifically, I'm thinking of apache (httpd), samba and apple file > sharing. I'm used to webmin but it doesn't seem to be in the > repository so I'm wondering if there are alternatives (I'll build it > from source tonight but I figured I'd ask about alternatives). > > Thanks, Eric. > I have to say that the server-config tools that come with Fedora Core are second to none. Infact I even changed my server to fedora core (with gnome) just to take advantage of those tools. I know it's not the answer you were looking for, but if there are server config tools available for ubuntu then I may switch back. From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Sat Feb 3 15:32:22 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:32:22 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net><1170470066.4060.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45C4A60E.2060106@cox.net> Message-ID: "Albert Wagner" wrote in message news:45C4A60E.2060106 at cox.net... > Michael T. Richter wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 18:26 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: >>> Language changes are almost always the result of consistent >>> misuse by >>> the illiterate. >> >> Incorrect statements about language are almost invariably the >> result of >> people who haven't even bothered reading the most elementary >> texts of >> linguistics. >> > Just what is the judgment of one who has read the most > elementary texts > of linguistics? And what would someone who has read advanced > texts of > linguistics think of that judgment? > Didn't someone say that the English language was the result of Norman men-at-arms trying to seduce Saxon barmaids? :-) -- Jim Silverton Potomac, Maryland From ljpino at grm.net Sat Feb 3 15:57:03 2007 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:57:03 -0600 Subject: Lorin - automatix site:lists.ubuntu.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C4B0CF.2040601@grm.net> Dennis Castanos wrote: > Thanks Lorin - that was great > I'll take the time to learn how to do it myself. > Is it ok to use update with aptitude, install with aptitude with a fresh > Edgy install? > Dennis (previous topic snipped) I have no idea, since I haven't used aptitude. I have stuck pretty much with synaptic (and apt where needed). Perhaps someone else can give input on this? ~Lorin From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Feb 3 16:09:22 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:09:22 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1170518962.7556.75.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 17:32 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > > > Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > > > repositories? > > > > Don't have a clue. :) > > > > Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > > it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. > > My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no > longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief > on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) > > I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some > criticism of Webmin IIRC... If you're setting up a server to learn about the services and how they work and also how to set up and configure them, I recommend doing it at command line. Yes, it takes time, but you'll learn more, and you'll probably also find that once you set most of these services up you don't really do much of anything to them.I do admit that something like webmin would be convenient to maintain changes once initial setup is done, but I would want something like that to be able to apply SSL certificates (at root and domain levels), add specific types of records to DNS (PTR, etc), write mail filter rules, etc... and I haven't seen a package that would handle those types of tasks. From jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk Sat Feb 3 16:10:26 2007 From: jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk (Jonathan Hudson) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:10:26 +0000 Subject: feisty upgrade breaks mdadm on amd64 References: <1170513669.10012.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070203161025.29e18969@eeyore.daria.co.uk> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:41:09 -0500 Matt Price wrote: > > loading, please wait > bogl_init failed: setting screen size: cannot allocate memory > screen init failed > mdadm: no devices listed in conf file were found. > volume group not found > check root- bootarg cat /proc/cmdline > or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev > > alert! /dev/mapper/Anarres--64--main-root does not exist. dropping to a > shell Booting from raid1 / lvm has been broken for months in feisty. I can cajole my feisty raid1/lvm box to boot by: * Set the root device to /dev/evms/lvm2/vg00/root in place of /dev/mapper/vol-of-root * Add break=mount to the boot line * About 30 seconds in the boot, press ^D to kill the resultant initramfs shell, as the array devices will have been discovered by then. This is suboptimal, as my feisty test box is effectively headless and somewhat keyboard inaccessible. There is a fine Ubuntu tradition that raid1/lvm booting gets broken during the development process; however, this is the first time it's been broken so badly, for so long. Hope it gets fixed soon. and duplicates document this bug. HTH, -jonathan From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 16:34:35 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:34:35 +0800 Subject: How to install Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06? Message-ID: <212696550702030834w4449e948p3b43ff7b397483ac@mail.gmail.com> I want to install the Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06. I read the INSTALL file with the Hynetd package and I know it needs *net-snmp ver 5.2 or higher*. I download the net-snmp rpm package from the webset and use alien commant to change this package to deb package. Then I use sudo dpkg -i to install this package. But I can't successfull. the error message is: (Reading database ... 110095 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking net-snmp (from net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/encode_keychange.1.gz', which is also in package snmp dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb Then I use the following instruction to intstall the net-snmp package. sudo apt-get install *libsnmp-base, libsnmp5, snmp and snmpd* Although I install these package successfully, I still can't install the Hynetd package. When I type make command, the following error messages occur: gcc -c -Wall -ggdb -DDEBUG -o scanner.o scanner.c In file included from scanner.h:28, from scanner.c:21: snmp.h:31:38: error: net-snmp/net-snmp-config.h: No such file or directory snmp.h:32:40: error: net-snmp/net-snmp-includes.h: No such file or directory scanner.c: In function 'testSnmp': scanner.c:633: error: storage size of 'session' isn't known scanner.c:643: warning: implicit declaration of function 'snmp_sess_init' scanner.c:645: error: 'SNMP_VERSION_1' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:645: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once scanner.c:645: error: for each function it appears in.) scanner.c:650: warning: implicit declaration of function 'snmp_sess_open' scanner.c:650: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast scanner.c:651: warning: implicit declaration of function 'snmp_perror' scanner.c:655: warning: implicit declaration of function 'snmp_sess_session' scanner.c:655: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast scanner.c:666: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type scanner.c:667: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type scanner.c:675: error: 'ASN_INTEGER' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:693: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type scanner.c:694: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type scanner.c:696: error: 'ASN_IPADDRESS' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:723: warning: implicit declaration of function 'snmp_sess_close' scanner.c:633: warning: unused variable 'session' scanner.c: In function 'snmpclient': scanner.c:794: error: storage size of 'session' isn't known scanner.c:814: error: 'SNMP_VERSION_1' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:823: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast scanner.c:857: error: 'ASN_IPADDRESS' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:870: error: 'ASN_INTEGER' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:878: error: 'ASN_GAUGE' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:879: error: 'MAX_OID_LEN' undeclared (first use in this function) scanner.c:794: warning: unused variable 'session' make: *** [scanner.o] Error 1 Would any one help me? -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From albertwagner at cox.net Sat Feb 3 16:40:40 2007 From: albertwagner at cox.net (Albert Wagner) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:40:40 -0600 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net><1170470066.4060.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45C4A60E.2060106@cox.net> Message-ID: <45C4BB08.4000202@cox.net> James Silverton wrote: > "Albert Wagner" wrote in message > news:45C4A60E.2060106 at cox.net... >> Michael T. Richter wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 18:26 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: >>>> Language changes are almost always the result of consistent >>>> misuse by >>>> the illiterate. >>> Incorrect statements about language are almost invariably the >>> result of >>> people who haven't even bothered reading the most elementary >>> texts of >>> linguistics. >>> >> Just what is the judgment of one who has read the most >> elementary texts >> of linguistics? And what would someone who has read advanced >> texts of >> linguistics think of that judgment? >> > Didn't someone say that the English language was the result of > Norman men-at-arms trying to seduce Saxon barmaids? :-) LOL. Thank you, James. I hadn't heard that one. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat Feb 3 17:05:12 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 12:05:12 -0500 Subject: How to install Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702030834w4449e948p3b43ff7b397483ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702030834w4449e948p3b43ff7b397483ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702031205.12965.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday 03 February 2007 11:34, zhihang wang wrote: > I want to install the Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06. I read the INSTALL > file with the Hynetd package and I know it needs *net-snmp ver 5.2 or > higher*. > I download the net-snmp rpm package from the webset and use alien commant > to change this package to deb package. Then I use > sudo dpkg -i > to install this package. But I can't successfull. the error message is: > > (Reading database ... 110095 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking net-snmp (from net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb (--install): > trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/encode_keychange.1.gz', which is > also in package snmp > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb > > Then I use the following instruction to intstall the net-snmp package. > sudo apt-get install *libsnmp-base, libsnmp5, snmp and snmpd* > Although I install these package successfully, I still can't install the > Hynetd package. net-snmp 5.2 or higher is in the repositories for Dapper, Edgy, and Feisty. Your first mistake is installing something from an external source that you can get from within the Ubuntu distribution. So, go back and install net-snmp from the repositories and work from there. Scott K From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Feb 3 17:01:19 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:01:19 -0800 Subject: Lorin - automatix site:lists.ubuntu.com References: <45C3F02C.6090509@grm.net> Message-ID: <87odob9nvk.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Dennis Castanos" writes: > Thanks Lorin - that was great > I'll take the time to learn how to do it myself. > Is it ok to use update with aptitude, install with aptitude with a > fresh Edgy install? I only use aptitude for everything (upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, keeping it updated, no upgrade-manager or whatever), and haven't seen any problems at all. Then again, I come from Debian. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl Sat Feb 3 17:35:28 2007 From: Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl (Joris Dobbelsteen) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:35:28 +0100 Subject: Controlling the GUI with the keyboard only Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5546@nehemiah.joris2k.local> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I'm trying to get Linux setup for a bit of desktop try-out. Unfortunally I first need to resolve a little USB/Mouse related issue. Is there any way of controlling the GUI (default one with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, gnome it seems) with only a keyboard. I get the 'feeling' that it really really requires you to use a mouse. I can under Windows (except some non-standard applications and games). Does anyone have some knowledge how to do so? - - Joris Dobbelsteen P.s. I'm already know that CTRL+ALT+Fx drops to console, and after 7 it has the graphical console. I can get arround under the console resonably well... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.2 (Build 2424) iQEVAwUBRcTH4HPKDxB1ZO1AAQjxKQf/dNag80YXXbQmFbB79ZuVZU2OaFbMz7TZ oQTsJ6rpozrBuPUPYAzTeYtV5FjQaC3GdJ9Qnv+k3vqgL+kIJvBe8n08c/K2rSVk om94hkTFI52Pi0Pfic0oFrOYW/eJtRehbtTSU2KMIT4iLZXFMGrs3VH5DRzBFG9E qbiEbw8673V4y98Ii37z+dg3WE2FcdEXpkU/fQEkYgecsHTm8JBquQ3Pmz6J2sCr k9y1VVlIbixp6zQTjZgdFcMfDIZqWtuZ5o3gYpI0RCDJmFUf7hQAB3TUvgntQf45 otgVpLCHoUHTYbwheoEI/NoHw/iOg3tSF3nVgoeuuvFFT+c5aa8DEg== =3Uvt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Feb 3 18:00:10 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:00:10 -0500 Subject: Controlling the GUI with the keyboard only In-Reply-To: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5546@nehemiah.joris2k.local> References: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5546@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <1170525611.7556.77.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 18:35 +0100, Joris Dobbelsteen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > I'm trying to get Linux setup for a bit of desktop try-out. Unfortunally I first need to resolve a little USB/Mouse related issue. > > Is there any way of controlling the GUI (default one with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, gnome it seems) with only a keyboard. I get the 'feeling' that it really really requires you to use a mouse. > I can under Windows (except some non-standard applications and games). > > Does anyone have some knowledge how to do so? > > - - Joris Dobbelsteen > > P.s. I'm already know that CTRL+ALT+Fx drops to console, and after 7 it has the graphical console. I can get arround under the console resonably well... System-->Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts has the default key setups, and you can modify them and add to them as well... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.2 (Build 2424) > > iQEVAwUBRcTH4HPKDxB1ZO1AAQjxKQf/dNag80YXXbQmFbB79ZuVZU2OaFbMz7TZ > oQTsJ6rpozrBuPUPYAzTeYtV5FjQaC3GdJ9Qnv+k3vqgL+kIJvBe8n08c/K2rSVk > om94hkTFI52Pi0Pfic0oFrOYW/eJtRehbtTSU2KMIT4iLZXFMGrs3VH5DRzBFG9E > qbiEbw8673V4y98Ii37z+dg3WE2FcdEXpkU/fQEkYgecsHTm8JBquQ3Pmz6J2sCr > k9y1VVlIbixp6zQTjZgdFcMfDIZqWtuZ5o3gYpI0RCDJmFUf7hQAB3TUvgntQf45 > otgVpLCHoUHTYbwheoEI/NoHw/iOg3tSF3nVgoeuuvFFT+c5aa8DEg== > =3Uvt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tommy.trussell at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 18:15:14 2007 From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 12:15:14 -0600 Subject: apt: 'BROKEN package' In-Reply-To: <1170363868.22467.3.camel@chronic> References: <45C0EF8C.8030107@gmail.com> <1170273167.4977.276.camel@chronic> <45C1999E.7060007@gmail.com> <1170363868.22467.3.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <3c5484cf0702031015p3d3c4c09y975b004adac004ca@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/07, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 08:41 +0100, Severin Schoepke wrote: > > Where could the > > problem lie? Is something wrong with the repo? > > Yeah, the output it gives is probably spot-on: "Since you only requested > a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not > installable and a bug report against that package should be filed." > > I'd recommend to file a bug against the package, even if you feel like > you are going in circles. Before doing so you should however do a > "apt-get update" and then try to install again, just in case the problem > is already fixed Make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list file is OK, then try this sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade The second command will go through and try to fix all dependencies. In order for a package to be broken in the way you have described, generally it's because there are one or more mis-matched packages already installed. This can happen if you changed your sources (in an upgrade) or if you have manually installed packages from a different repository. If this is a relatively new installation, it might be easier to start the installation over. There could have been a glitch in the installation or in the security update process. From bcorbin at cfl.rr.com Sat Feb 3 18:23:43 2007 From: bcorbin at cfl.rr.com (Bruce) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:23:43 -0500 Subject: Disable Route Optimization in Linux In-Reply-To: <45C4929B.2010404@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> <45C4929B.2010404@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <45C4D32F.3060004@cfl.rr.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I asked the maintainer of that repo about it and he wrote the following: 2007/2/2, Martin Pitt : Hi Severin, Severin Schoepke [2007-02-02 9:38 +0100]: > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > nautilus-dbgsym: Depends: nautilus (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu3) but > 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed Unfortunately we do not generate debug symbol packages for edgy-updates/-security. I notified our sysadmins a while ago and asked them to enable it, but until then I'm afraid there is little I can do. Thanks for the report, Martin -- Martin Pitt http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com Debian Developer http://www.debian.org So it looks like it's a fault in the package... Thanks for everyone's suggestions, the case is now closed for me ;-) - Severin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For example, I believe if you've used it to install new packages, when you remove them it will also remember to remove any dependent "orphan" packages. (If you've used another package manager it won't automatically find the "orphans.") In Synaptic you can search for orphan packages as a separate step. Personally I don't like aptitude's text-based (curses) package browser interface -- I find its navigation commands confusing. There may be an X-based GUI for aptitude but I haven't used one. But as a straight replacement for the apt commands aptitude is quite nice. From philsf at ufrj.br Sat Feb 3 18:43:56 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 16:43:56 -0200 Subject: locale x dpkg-reconfigure hell in console Message-ID: <200702031643.56998.philsf@ufrj.br> Hi, I hve been trying to use both UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1 locales with some sort of success for test purposes, but the correct mechanism with wich to change between them seems to elude me. After installing (and configuring FWIW) localeconf, I commented out all the previous content of /etc/environment and let it only with localeconf's proposed variables (which in this case is only LANG). Maybe changing my locale between UTF and ISO would be just a matter of changing between pt_BR and pt_BR.UTF-8, but to be sure I do this by issuing dpkg-reconfigure localeconf. Ok, in console, when I change the locale's encoding all the non-standard characters get messed, as if the apps (for example aptitude, or debconf menus/messages) somehow "remembered" the locale encoding. However, upon reconfiguring several lib* and other packages at random seem to toggle this behaviour. I don't know exactly what did I dpkg-reconfigure to make aptitude/debconf/ncurses apps look good in ISO locale, but now I can't seem to make them look good in UTF. So, I must do something else beside changing the locale which is, at least for me, unexpected. In X, changing has the effect on KDE/QT apps loosing deadkey abilities. GTK and Tcl/Tk apps (or else AFAICT) are unaffected by these changes (which include ooo, firefox, jpilot and amsn). I am not the only one with this behaviour[1] but I am not sure how these relate. Does any of these happen to anyone? Any other info needed? regards FF 1. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19057 From shot at hot.pl Sat Feb 3 18:53:59 2007 From: shot at hot.pl (Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:53:59 +0100 Subject: gvim colours Message-ID: <20070203185356.GU3332@durance.shot.pl> I’ve been using Vim with colorscheme evening, run in gnome-terminal set to disallow bold text and to use the Rxvt colour palette, and it’s been working great for me. So great, in fact, that now, when I want to give GVim a chance, I can’t stand its default interpretation of the evening colorscheme, but I have no idea how to make it drop the bold text and use the Rxvt colour palette. Is it at all doable? If so, how? Or, to rephrase my question, how to make GVim (below) look the same as Vim (above) in the following screenshot? http://shot.pl/gvim-colours.png -- Shot -- It is not yet possible to change operating system by writing to /proc/sys/kernel/ostype. -- man 2 sysctl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Richter wrote: > > > /"[Blacks] ... are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of > body and mind."/ *--Thomas Jefferson* > OOPS, and then after that comes a quote! ~Lorin From cyclothunder at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 19:12:47 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (cyclothunder) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:12:47 +0000 Subject: package dependencies Message-ID: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> hi! I've installed ubuntu 6.10 on my pc at work. now i need to get my wifi card to work and for that i need network manager. i have no way of getting this pc to Internet by other means. So at home I've downloaded network manager.deb but when i tried to install at work on ubuntu it needs other files (dependencies). how do i get network manager with all full dependencies ? thx From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 19:26:15 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:26:15 +0100 Subject: package dependencies In-Reply-To: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> References: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170530775.5033.7.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 19:12 +0000, cyclothunder wrote: > how do i get network manager with all > full dependencies ? > Go to [1] and check out its dependencies (and the dependencies of its dependencies), you can also download from there (scroll down) Also read [2] for all intructions [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 19:34:20 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:34:20 +0100 Subject: package dependencies In-Reply-To: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> References: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170531260.5033.10.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 19:12 +0000, cyclothunder wrote: > So at home I've downloaded > network manager.deb Thinking about it ... is edgy installed at home too? If so, install network-manager there, then copy its *.deb and its dependencies from /var/cache/apt/archive From larry at isp.com Sat Feb 3 19:40:53 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:40:53 -0600 Subject: I am in need of some Help on Java & Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <45C33252.8050905@isp.com> <45C3B8FC.6020801@isp.com> Message-ID: <45C4E545.5040800@isp.com> Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > certainly there is a problemin installing easyubuntu for 6.10, you can > use automatix2 as you have told or search for mozilla addons in google > and install or http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html. may help > you. > Thanking you. > Bhavani Shankar. > > On 2/3/07, *larry* < larry at isp.com > wrote: > > Hello Bhavani, > > I did mention what my problem was in the text below to Dennis, which > again is when I go too Yahoo's webwite, to play a POOL game it > tells me > that I am missing a plugin... > > That plugin is JAVA, for which I have installed, using both > Automatix2 & > Synaptic, yet java is still not working for me...I have the latest > version of Firefox 2.0.x installed too... > > Easyubuntu, I thought that is was only for older versions of > ubuntu not > 6.10...? > > Now it's crazy, but I had know problem installing java in ubuntu > dapper > 6.06, but I am sure having a problem in 6.10... > > Thanks for the reply... > > Larry > > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > you have asked for a general installation without specifying the > > error....You might try out these options... > > 1. you can update the synaptic package manager and search for > j2re 1.5 > > plugin.. that is the latest version for firefox 2.0.. > > 2.you can search with the keywords mozilla addons in google and > > install the java plugin... > > 3. you can use the latest version of Easyubuntu(an alternative for > > automatix) and install the java plugin... > > *easyubuntu*.freecontrib.org/ is the site where you can download > it... > > yours faitfully, > > Bhavani Shankar. > *Hello Bhavani, I just thought that I would let you know and others also, that I now have "JAVA" working...After reading some comments from others concerning which java to use... So I installed java-gcj from synaptic, and all is well... Thanks to everyone who responded and those that had commented on the subject JAVA to use java-gcj... Larry * -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Feb 3 19:40:58 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:40:58 +0100 Subject: gvim colours In-Reply-To: <20070203185356.GU3332@durance.shot.pl> References: <20070203185356.GU3332@durance.shot.pl> Message-ID: Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) wrote the following on 03.02.2007 19:53: > I’ve been using Vim with colorscheme evening, run in gnome-terminal set > to disallow bold text and to use the Rxvt colour palette, and it’s been > working great for me. > > So great, in fact, that now, when I want to give GVim a chance, > I can’t stand its default interpretation of the evening colorscheme, > but I have no idea how to make it drop the bold text and use the Rxvt > colour palette. Is it at all doable? If so, how? > > Or, to rephrase my question, how to make GVim (below) look the same as > Vim (above) in the following screenshot? http://shot.pl/gvim-colours.png > > -- Shot > hi edit (i my case): /usr/share/vim/vim70/colors/evening.vim and remove the "bold" from it. you can also copy it over to your personal profile, but i am not sure right now which directox would be right. probably ~/.vim/colors/ HTH Thilo, after long time vim lover -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Feb 3 19:48:21 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:48:21 -0500 Subject: feisty upgrade breaks mdadm on amd64 In-Reply-To: <20070203161025.29e18969@eeyore.daria.co.uk> References: <1170513669.10012.27.camel@localhost> <20070203161025.29e18969@eeyore.daria.co.uk> Message-ID: <1170532101.10012.45.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:10 +0000, Jonathan Hudson wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:41:09 -0500 > Matt Price wrote: > > Booting from raid1 / lvm has been broken for months in feisty. I can > cajole my feisty raid1/lvm box to boot by: > > * Set the root device to /dev/evms/lvm2/vg00/root in place > of /dev/mapper/vol-of-root > do I do this in /boot/grub/menu.lst? and may I ask how you construct that path there ( my vg is 'Anarres-64-main', the root volume is 'root')? > * Add break=mount to the boot line > > * About 30 seconds in the boot, press ^D to kill the resultant initramfs > shell, as the array devices will have been discovered by then. > I'm looking forward to this working. Right now I can make it work withthe following input at the initramfs prompt: ./scripts/local-top/mdadm lvm vgscan lvm vgchange -a y of course this is somewhat irritating to do on every boot, and suspend and hibernate have both broken on this box now, as, apparently, have the the ethernet drivers (for both my nics); so I'm just hoping the promised fix shows up soon. > This is suboptimal, as my feisty test box is effectively headless and > somewhat keyboard inaccessible. > > There is a fine Ubuntu tradition that raid1/lvm booting gets broken > during the development process; however, this is the first time it's > been broken so badly, for so long. Hope it gets fixed soon. > > and duplicates document this bug. > > HTH, > helps a ton. thanks, matt > -jonathan > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apt-get has been improved recently, it can now remove all unused dependencies when un-installing a package, thanks to a new command line option: "--auto-remove". I noticed that it works even when the package has been installed through Synaptic. > Personally I don't like aptitude's text-based (curses) package browser > interface -- I find its navigation commands confusing. Indeed, a text UI would be great, but the current one is so horrible and confusing that I never ever use it and find the command line much easier. I guess that means a lot, because I am hardly a command line fetishist. Making a user friendly text UI could be a great Google Summer of Code project... -- Vince From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Feb 3 19:54:46 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:54:46 +0100 Subject: Automatix2 or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dennis Castanos wrote the following on 03.02.2007 02:30: the question is Automatix2 or not the answer is no. HTH Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sat Feb 3 20:07:02 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:07:02 +0000 Subject: Disable Route Optimization in Linux In-Reply-To: <45C4D32F.3060004@cfl.rr.com> References: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> <45C4929B.2010404@manchester.ac.uk> <45C4D32F.3060004@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <45C4EB66.5040801@manchester.ac.uk> Bruce, Bruce wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: >> Bruce, >> >> Bruce wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I'm working toward building up a couple of test fixtures that require me >>> to generate multiple channels of Ethernet traffic. I have some Perl >>> code that will allow me to send and receive traffic using specified >>> local and peer ports. I seem to have only one problem that is >>> preventing me from getting started. Linux is optimizing all my traffic >>> to go through the default port. >>> >>> To be more specific, let's assume I have a 8 port switch to be tested. >>> Assume I have two Linux boxes with a quad NIC card in each. Assume the >>> 8 ports from the two quad NIC cards all get plugged into the switch. To >>> test each switch port I need to be able to generate traffic from all 8 >>> ports of the two quad NIC cards. Linux optimizes my routes and sends >>> all traffic through the default eth port, even when I specify another port. >>> >>> Is there any way to turn off the router in Linux or at least override it >>> with my desired routes? I have tried many combinations of "route add", >>> "route del", "ip route add x.x.x.x via y.y.y.y. So far I am striking >>> out. Any help would be appreciated. >>> >> >> Do you have different networks numbers (i.e., logically and the netmask >> with the ip address and you should get a different answer for each >> interface) on each interface to make sure they are effectively on >> different networks so far as IP is concerned? You would also need to set >> up routes for each network/interface. >> >> Regards, >> Tony. >> > One of my many experiments was to try 192.168.25.x for one port and > 192.168.26.y for the other port. I made my best attempt to set up > routes and masks but I don't know for sure that they were the best > choice. I was suprised that even though the third octet was different, > the OS still routed them out the same port. What I would try is this. Set up pairs of interfaces, one on each machine. For the first pair set IP address of eth0 (say) as 192.168.25.1, netmask 255.255.255.0 and set a route to network 192.168.25.0 to be 192.168.25.1 on eth0. On the other machine set IP address of eth0 to 192.168.25.2 with netmask 255.255.255.0 and set a route to network 192.168.25.0 to be 192.168.25.2. Do the same for the second pair on eth1 on each machine changing 25 as above to 26. The on the first machine send traffic to 192.168.25.2 and it should go out on eth0. Send to 192.168.26.2 and it should go out on eth1. Make sure you remove the default route. You can use ifconfig to set interface addresses and masks. For setting routes, you need something like: route add -net 192.168.25.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.25.1 dev eth0 Regards, Tony. > > Bruce > -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sat Feb 3 20:09:58 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:09:58 +0000 Subject: package dependencies In-Reply-To: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> References: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C4EC16.7040409@manchester.ac.uk> cyclothunder wrote: > hi! > > I've installed ubuntu 6.10 on my pc at work. now i need to get my wifi > card to work and for that i need network manager. i have no way of > getting this pc to Internet by other means. So at home I've downloaded > network manager.deb but when i tried to install at work on ubuntu it > needs other files (dependencies). how do i get network manager with all > full dependencies ? You don't need network-manager to get on the net, you just need to manually configure your network card using System->Administration->Networking. Once on the net, you can then install network manager. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 20:16:22 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:16:22 +0100 Subject: package dependencies In-Reply-To: <45C4EC16.7040409@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> <45C4EC16.7040409@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1170533783.5033.14.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 20:09 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > you just need to manually configure your network card using > System->Administration->Networking. That depends. Your method only works with open and WEP-ecrypted networks, but it won't with WPA. One can dick around with wpa-supplicant manually, but IMHO it is simpler to just download the network-manager + dependencies somewhere else. IIRC some cards will work only with network-manager and not with the method you described, but I am not sure about that. And anyway of course the other way round is also true (cards working with your method but not network-manager) From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 3 20:17:26 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:17:26 +0100 Subject: Automatix2 or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170533846.5033.16.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:30 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > Automatix2 Better not. See here http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/10/30/automatix-and-upgrading From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sat Feb 3 20:25:38 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:25:38 +0000 Subject: package dependencies In-Reply-To: <1170533783.5033.14.camel@chronic> References: <45C4DEAF.4030706@gmail.com> <45C4EC16.7040409@manchester.ac.uk> <1170533783.5033.14.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45C4EFC2.7040908@manchester.ac.uk> Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 20:09 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: >> you just need to manually configure your network card using >> System->Administration->Networking. > > That depends. Your method only works with open and WEP-ecrypted > networks, but it won't with WPA. One can dick around with wpa-supplicant > manually, but IMHO it is simpler to just download the network-manager + > dependencies somewhere else. OK. Having never used WPA in any shape or form, I didn't know that! Thanks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk Sat Feb 3 20:27:24 2007 From: jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk (Jonathan Hudson) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:27:24 +0000 Subject: feisty upgrade breaks mdadm on amd64 References: <1170513669.10012.27.camel@localhost> <20070203161025.29e18969@eeyore.daria.co.uk> <1170532101.10012.45.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070203202724.483e64da@eeyore.daria.co.uk> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:48:21 -0500 Matt Price wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:10 +0000, Jonathan Hudson wrote: > I'm looking forward to this working. Right now I can make it work > withthe following input at the initramfs prompt: > ./scripts/local-top/mdadm > lvm vgscan > lvm vgchange -a y > > of course this is somewhat irritating to do on every boot, and suspend > and hibernate have both broken on this box now, as, apparently, have the > the ethernet drivers (for both my nics); so I'm just hoping the promised > fix shows up soon. What I've done just allows some of that to work with less effort, like pressing ^D rather than typing the stuff you're doing (which was my previous workaround). In menu.lst # kopt=root=/dev/evms/lvm2/vg00/root ro break=mount which gives me a grub kernel line like: /vmlinuz-2.6.20-6-generic root=/dev/evms/lvm2/vg00/root ro break=mount Big fat warning: it works for me, I don't understand why. YMMV etc. -jonathan From dlithgow at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 20:28:02 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:28:02 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi, another question: > > I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and > Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM > (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache > and smbd in that VM. > > What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. NTFS: Reportedly stable, supported by some kernels (not sure if Ubuntu 6.06 supports it). Support for read/write from linux is newer and theoretically therefore less dependable. But I haven't heard much about it. EXT3: Will only work if you install a special file browser in windows. So, go to wikipedia and other places, do some homework and take your pick - they're all possible. Most people use FAT32 for this purpose. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 3 20:34:04 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:34:04 -0800 Subject: Is there an update to DST 2007 change? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carlos Picazzo wrote: > As someone posted a while back, Daylight Savings Time in the US has > been changed and will take effect on 11 March, 2007 (see > http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/daylight_time.html ). > > I've seen that you can download the updated data source but this is > going to effect everyone in the US (and Canada?) so I am presuming > there will need to be an update to 6.06 TLS at least. I didn't see > anything about it in the forums and nothing really on this list. Is > there something available yet or will there be soon? It's now less > than 45 days away so I figure the sooner we start working on it, the > better! :-) > > Cheers, > > Carlos > If you've kept your system updated it should already be there. Here is how to check: #Code $ cat /etc/timezone I am on the left coast of the US so my results are: $ cat /etc/timezone America/Los_Angeles Now I want to check to see if my system will change in March vs April: #Code zdump -v America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007 [Note: change the "America/Los_Angeles" part to your results from the "cat /etc/timezone"] My results from the zdump are: ~$ zdump -v America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007 America/Los_Angeles Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 America/Los_Angeles Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 America/Los_Angeles Sun Nov 4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 America/Los_Angeles Sun Nov 4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 So, you can see that my clocks will correctly change on Sunday March 11th and back on Sunday November 4th. If you get incorrect results for your timezone, then you'll need to update your tzdata packages. -- Ubuntu 6.0.61 (Dapper) Kernel: 2.6.15-27-386 GNOME Version: 2.14.3 - Ubuntu (2006-07-31) From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 3 20:37:21 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:37:21 -0800 Subject: [Correction] Re: Is there an update to DST 2007 change? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > > So, you can see that my clocks will correctly change on Sunday March > 11th and back on Sunday November 4th. If you get incorrect results for > your timezone, then you'll need to update your tzdata packages. > Should read: your timezone, then you'll need to update your "locales" packages. From shot at hot.pl Sat Feb 3 21:04:32 2007 From: shot at hot.pl (Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:04:32 +0100 Subject: gvim colours In-Reply-To: References: <20070203185356.GU3332@durance.shot.pl> Message-ID: <20070203210432.GV3332@durance.shot.pl> Thilo Six: > Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) wrote the following on 03.02.2007 19:53: >> Or, to rephrase my question, how to make GVim (below) look the same as >> Vim (above) in the following screenshot? http://shot.pl/gvim-colours.png > edit (i my case): > /usr/share/vim/vim70/colors/evening.vim > and remove the "bold" from it. Thanks a lot for your reply, Thilo! Unfortunately, this takes care only of part of the boldings; I guess the rest might be caused by the syntax highliting file. Also, the colours are still different (look at the background of the above screenshot, for starters). I hoped for a solution that either both turns off the bolding altogether and makes GVim interpret the colour scheme using the ‘Rxvt scheme’ or (a pipe dream?) makes GVim use gnome-terminal for its internal editing area. -- Shot -- Life begins when you can spend your spare time programming instead of watching television. -- Cal Keegan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I get >the 'feeling' that it really really requires you to use a mouse. >> I can under Windows (except some non-standard applications >and games). >> >System-->Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts has the default key setups, >and you can modify them and add to them as well... Thanks John, but... how to get here, for starting? - - Joris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.2 (Build 2424) iQEVAwUBRcUE9XPKDxB1ZO1AAQgZ1wf8DwpmJQ6EkM6amvlbjIF4TwaU2m67Ja8x EfrjF4Ce6lcfHGVPpumbav08DQPQiY18M9JrtW780ieNa6n8xqw2j936SoqQY6fl 9kj6kQs027YGuxSSK9Yo520jOawKEiWh4cHU7gR32xaTZhY6yN/LT+SA0a70KeJv X3h2HVG73DovZ4yBtkNgCkTZ2Q82Ovf2H1MVisjXjLBjAnzoB7kL80+fmqadGEzX ut7gxvtTecEVIn3ChTXfwAwjeIOlBzagpnh74LkG5dakpPt46D0VqAlRLrOihvh1 jxh2dlGVR/c58buUdo8rCrl8gc9n/J1S3G9FAZY0vS82WaxzOt3L6Q== =5hYN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 22:43:37 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 06:43:37 +0800 Subject: SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! Message-ID: SELinux does wonders on my Feisty machine. I noticed that when it's turn on, applications don't get any noticeable delays when loading, I can run QEMU now without sacrificing the performance of the host OS. Everything runs so smooth. Networking also runs well without any problems, Sharing files using gshare (Avahi FTP Daemon), SAMBA works, and other host can connect to me without problems. I can even connect to this PC by my .local address and grab the correct time in the internet using ntpd. I have done alot of searching on the net because I was so reluctant about it, I have fears about the effects on compiling a program, but couldn't find any, so I just tried it myself and to my surprise It works like a charm, and doesn't affect the compiled programs. The only settings that is not working in Ubuntu is enforcing mode, which will not boot the machine, but permissive with strict policy works. I'm using targeted policy. To install SELinux, just grab selinux-basics and it would install the targeted policy. The strict policy and src policy would have to be installed manually. After that you'll have to enable it at boot with selinux=1 option. Just sharing this wonderful features most of us doesn't use. -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 22:50:48 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:50:48 +0100 Subject: SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031450u1d54ef37j480c7b86e21894f4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > SELinux does wonders on my Feisty machine. I noticed that when it's turn on, > applications don't get any noticeable delays when loading, I can run QEMU > now without sacrificing the performance of the host OS. Everything runs so > smooth. Networking also runs well without any problems, Sharing files using > gshare (Avahi FTP Daemon), SAMBA works, and other host can connect to me > without problems. I can even connect to this PC by my .local address and > grab the correct time in the internet using ntpd. I have done alot of > searching on the net because I was so reluctant about it, I have fears about > the effects on compiling a program, but couldn't find any, so I just tried > it myself and to my surprise It works like a charm, and doesn't affect the > compiled programs. > > The only settings that is not working in Ubuntu is enforcing mode, which > will not boot the machine, but permissive with strict policy works. I'm > using targeted policy. Errr... I think that permissive mode is not very useful. I mean, any policy (even broken ones) will work in permissive mode, since the kernel simply logs invalid actions, but does not prevent them from happening. > To install SELinux, just grab selinux-basics and it would install the > targeted policy. The strict policy and src policy would have to be installed > manually. After that you'll have to enable it at boot with selinux=1 option. > > Just sharing this wonderful features most of us doesn't use. Fedora Core 6 has a good working SELinux policy (after three releases, they are getting close to getting an usable policy) and I've been using SELinux for sometime, not with problems, but :-) From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Feb 3 22:50:52 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:50:52 +0100 Subject: gvim colours In-Reply-To: <20070203210432.GV3332@durance.shot.pl> References: <20070203185356.GU3332@durance.shot.pl> <20070203210432.GV3332@durance.shot.pl> Message-ID: Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) wrote the following on 03.02.2007 22:04: >> and remove the "bold" from it. > > Thanks a lot for your reply, Thilo! > > Unfortunately, this takes care only of part of the boldings; I guess the > rest might be caused by the syntax highliting file. Also, the colours > are still different (look at the background of the above screenshot, for > starters). > > I hoped for a solution that either both turns off the bolding altogether > and makes GVim interpret the colour scheme using the ‘Rxvt scheme’ or > (a pipe dream?) makes GVim use gnome-terminal for its internal editing > area. > > -- Shot i think the only answer is to make your own colortheme based on evening.vim bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From jwgraddy at valornet.com Sat Feb 3 22:52:28 2007 From: jwgraddy at valornet.com (John Graddy) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:52:28 -0600 Subject: Wierd Print Problem Message-ID: <1170543148.21839.24.camel@winlin> I am running EDGY. Have an HP 6100 multi function along with HPLIP 1.7.1. If I print a screenshot (a .png file)using the Image Viewer (gImage), I get a solid black image. I have downloaded other .png's and successfully printed them. I also get a solid black image if I print the screenshot with gThumb Image Viewer, I emailed a screenshot file to my wife's computer (Dapper 6.06 with all updates, HP 970Cse, HPLIP 1.6.12) and she also gets a solid black image. I have successfully printed screenshots in the past on Dapper. The only thing that I can find that may be part of the problem is an update to 'eog' installed on my wife's computer in October. This update installed eog 2.14.3. There have also been lots of updates to the various libraries. (I'm assuming that all of the Dapper updates were included in the Edgy (6.10) Herd 2 download). I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to how to resolve this problem. I'm currently just opening the file in the Gimp and printing it. Thanks, John From jwgraddy at valornet.com Sat Feb 3 23:11:58 2007 From: jwgraddy at valornet.com (John Graddy) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:11:58 -0600 Subject: Wierd Print Problem In-Reply-To: <1170543148.21839.24.camel@winlin> References: <1170543148.21839.24.camel@winlin> Message-ID: <1170544318.21839.26.camel@winlin> I misspoke. Edgy is NOT Herd2. On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:52 -0600, John Graddy wrote: > I am running EDGY. Have an HP 6100 multi function along with HPLIP > 1.7.1. If I print a screenshot (a .png file)using the Image Viewer > (gImage), I get a solid black image. I have downloaded other .png's and > successfully printed them. > > I also get a solid black image if I print the screenshot with gThumb > Image Viewer, > > I emailed a screenshot file to my wife's computer (Dapper 6.06 with > all updates, HP 970Cse, HPLIP 1.6.12) and she also gets a solid black > image. > > I have successfully printed screenshots in the past on Dapper. The only > thing that I can find that may be part of the problem is an update to > 'eog' installed on my wife's computer in October. This update installed > eog 2.14.3. There have also been lots of updates to the various > libraries. (I'm assuming that all of the Dapper updates were included in > the Edgy (6.10) Herd 2 download). > > I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to how to resolve this > problem. I'm currently just opening the file in the Gimp and printing > it. > > Thanks, > John > > > > > > From tspear at tangiblesoftware.com Sat Feb 3 23:35:09 2007 From: tspear at tangiblesoftware.com (Timothy Spear) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:35:09 -0500 Subject: Roaming user configuration Message-ID: <20070203183509.h8clu204qi4kgook@trinidad.tangiblesoftware.com> Hi, I am trying to create a mixture of a thick and thin client setup on my network. Which would ideally also work with laptops. I would like to have the users home directory (which includes menus and everything else) roam with him/her as they switch computers. As I see it, I have two choices. First xdmcp configuration. This means I need a large server and is very network intensive. Second choice, use a central LDAP and NFS mount the home directories and take advantage of the local thick machine resources. For laptops, I am thinking of a boot and shutdown script to update the designated user's profile on the main NFS server if a connection is available. Does anyone have a better solution? Or has anyone implemented my second idea? Tim From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 23:53:10 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:53:10 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> On 03/02/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > Hi, another question: > > > > I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and > > Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM > > (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache > > and smbd in that VM. > > > > What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? > FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. Thanks for your thoughts: "not the greatest on-disk filesystem"? What do you mean with that particular phrase? I'm most concerned with avoiding data corruption when switching between Windows XP and Ubuntu. Eric. From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 00:10:44 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 08:10:44 +0800 Subject: How to install Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <200702031205.12965.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <212696550702030834w4449e948p3b43ff7b397483ac@mail.gmail.com> <200702031205.12965.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <212696550702031610k4cfa2f91vfb3d84346afb50a3@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for your answer, Sckott. But how about my second installation? I use the apt-get install command to install the net-snmp package, But it sill doesn't work. On 2/4/07, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday 03 February 2007 11:34, zhihang wang wrote: > > I want to install the Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06. I read the INSTALL > > file with the Hynetd package and I know it needs *net-snmp ver 5.2 or > > higher*. > > I download the net-snmp rpm package from the webset and use alien > commant > > to change this package to deb package. Then I use > > sudo dpkg -i > > to install this package. But I can't successfull. the error message is: > > > > (Reading database ... 110095 files and directories currently installed.) > > Unpacking net-snmp (from net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb) ... > > dpkg: error processing net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb (--install): > > trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/encode_keychange.1.gz', which > is > > also in package snmp > > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > net-snmp_5.4-2_i386.deb > > > > Then I use the following instruction to intstall the net-snmp package. > > sudo apt-get install *libsnmp-base, libsnmp5, snmp and snmpd* > > Although I install these package successfully, I still can't install the > > Hynetd package. > > net-snmp 5.2 or higher is in the repositories for Dapper, Edgy, and > Feisty. > Your first mistake is installing something from an external source that > you > can get from within the Ubuntu distribution. > > So, go back and install net-snmp from the repositories and work from > there. > > Scott K > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From electricalsciences at adelphia.net Sun Feb 4 00:19:27 2007 From: electricalsciences at adelphia.net (Roby) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:19:27 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> Hi, another question: >> >> I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and >> Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM >> (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache >> and smbd in that VM. >> >> What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? > FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. > NTFS: Reportedly stable, supported by some kernels (not sure if Ubuntu > 6.06 supports it). Support for read/write from linux is newer and > theoretically therefore less dependable. But I haven't heard much about > it. > EXT3: Will only work if you install a special file browser in windows. > > So, go to wikipedia and other places, do some homework and take your > pick - they're all possible. > > Most people use FAT32 for this purpose. > > Duncan > I installed an ext3 driver on my win2k (sp4) install, giving me full read/write access to my ext3 partitions from win2k. No special file browser was needed. The driver is available as Ext2IFS_1_10c.exe. On the linux side, I use the ntfs-3g driver to gain read/write access to the ntfs partition where win2k lives. I still have a couple of fat32 partitions as shared space, but only because I haven't taken the time to tar the contents, convert to ext3, and untar the stuff back. So far, no problems with either driver. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 00:34:14 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:34:14 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <1170518962.7556.75.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1170518962.7556.75.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <77520bee0702031634h7f40094dld30fba633865177a@mail.gmail.com> On 03/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 17:32 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 > > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > > > > > Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > > > > repositories? > > > > > > Don't have a clue. :) > > > > > > Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > > > it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. > > > > My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no > > longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief > > on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) > > > > I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some > > criticism of Webmin IIRC... > If you're setting up a server to learn about the services and how they > work and also how to set up and configure them, I recommend doing it at > command line. Yes, it takes time, but you'll learn more, and you'll > probably also find that once you set most of these services up you don't > really do much of anything to them. Been there. Done it. Bought the t-shirt :-). I've set up and configured a server from the CLUI and I agree it's a GREAT way to learn. My YellowDogLinux server (FC2-based Mac distro) has been running Samba, AppleFileSharing and Apache for ~2.5 years with NOT ONE kernel panic and no system crashes. Recently a !$%#!$!@# power failure brought a 310+ day uptime (no restart) to an end :-( :-( :-(. That said, the CLUI damned inefficient for doing real work and that's why I was wondering what people used to take care of all the farting around in the CLUI. WebMin is very useful but it takes a smorgas-bord approach -- I use it for most tasks but it doesn't excel at any one task since it does so many. > I do admit that something like webmin > would be convenient to maintain changes once initial setup is done, but > I would want something like that to be able to apply SSL certificates > (at root and domain levels), add specific types of records to DNS (PTR, > etc), write mail filter rules, etc... and I haven't seen a package that > would handle those types of tasks. Different server needs, different apps ;-). I need something to maintain and configure a pretty basic server -- file server (AFS, Samba), Apache + sundry PHP-based applications (e.g. Gallery), and an X11 server so I can log-in from my Mac (my main computer) to get my Linux fix. Would CentOS maybe be a better choice as a light-weight, low-configuration needed server OS than Ubuntu? I'll still be using Ubuntu to run the VM but I don't particularly care what distro runs my server, so long as it runs and can get up-and-running with a minimum of fuss (i.e. CLUI stuff) ;-). Hmm. You've got me thinking -- maybe I should see if CentOS is any good (since it's a RHEL-based distro, explicitly designed for server administrators who aren't always interested in fiddling with their servers and need good interfaces to manage them... hmmm???... of course, they do pay through the nose for those "extra" configuration tools). PS I agree that the CLUI is a great way to learn things, but, I've been fighting with Ubuntu to get VMware Server up and running and I have to admit that I really don't care about what dependencies are needed or what little config files are set so long as it runs properly -- plus, I now value my time much more and get less satisfaction out of "solving" a problem (and, once I've gotten past the problem I will hopefully not have to re-visit the solution again). Hmm. Maybe VHCS, ISPConfig or even ZPanel might give me some of the control I desire (perhaps not for initial configuration but they should be good for on-going control). Eric. From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 01:16:29 2007 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:16:29 -0400 Subject: Firewall question In-Reply-To: <45C08293.9070007@uni-graz.at> References: <45C08293.9070007@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <865773ce0702031716q5d72adc9je9c2036c33576922@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/07, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I know this is a bit off-topic but maybe someone can help. Would be great! > > I set up a iptables-firewall on a machine which works fine except that > Tomcat startup and shutdown are very slow (up to 5 minutes!) since then. > That's why I have a general question: > > How can I track which ports a process claims or tries to claim? iftop ---- sudo apt-get install iftop tcpdump -i any -s 1500 -w [file.cap] and then use wireshark to "read" the resulting file regards, -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org From lemsx1 at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 01:30:58 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:30:58 -0500 Subject: SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10702031450u1d54ef37j480c7b86e21894f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702031450u1d54ef37j480c7b86e21894f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/3/07, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > > On 2/3/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > SELinux does wonders on my Feisty machine. I noticed that when it's turn > on, > > applications don't get any noticeable delays when loading, I can run > QEMU > > now without sacrificing the performance of the host OS. Everything runs > so > > smooth. Networking also runs well without any problems, Sharing files > using > > gshare (Avahi FTP Daemon), SAMBA works, and other host can connect to me > > without problems. I can even connect to this PC by my .local address and > > grab the correct time in the internet using ntpd. I have done alot of > > searching on the net because I was so reluctant about it, I have fears > about > > the effects on compiling a program, but couldn't find any, so I just > tried > > it myself and to my surprise It works like a charm, and doesn't affect > the > > compiled programs. > > > > The only settings that is not working in Ubuntu is enforcing mode, which > > will not boot the machine, but permissive with strict policy works. I'm > > using targeted policy. > > Errr... I think that permissive mode is not very useful. I mean, any > policy (even broken ones) will work in permissive mode, since the > kernel simply logs invalid actions, but does not prevent them from > happening. Well said > To install SELinux, just grab selinux-basics and it would install the > > targeted policy. The strict policy and src policy would have to be > installed > > manually. After that you'll have to enable it at boot with selinux=1 > option. > > > > Just sharing this wonderful features most of us doesn't use. > > Fedora Core 6 has a good working SELinux policy (after three releases, > they are getting close to getting an usable policy) and I've been > using SELinux for sometime, not with problems, but :-) Which bothers me a lot about Debian. Why hasn't debian supported SELinux as well as the Fedoras have? I understand the "laid-back" approach of the DDs, but SELinux is mature and good enough to use now, especially on a desktop system, where things won't be breaking as often as on a server. -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From haniganwork at earthlik.net Sun Feb 4 01:43:16 2007 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:16 -0600 Subject: having a normal user mount nfs filesystem Message-ID: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> I have been mounting our nfs with mount 192.168.1.3:/usr/local/lib/letters /usr/local/lib/letters It works great, but if someone accidently shuts down instead of logging off the machine they of course lose the filesystem. I would like to have away for a user to do this without a root password. I vaguely remember setting up a way to restart lpr years ago without needing a root password with some special file in /etc I can not for the life of me remember the command. Anybody know what I am talking about? Thanks Linda From martin at autotelic.com Sun Feb 4 01:50:09 2007 From: martin at autotelic.com (Dave M G) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:50:09 +0900 Subject: Ubuntu Vista In-Reply-To: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> Message-ID: <45C53BD1.8030009@autotelic.com> TLUG, For your amusement: http://www.degredo.net/ -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 4 01:57:29 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:57:29 +0000 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C53D89.8080106@yandex.ru> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > SELinux does wonders on my Feisty machine. I noticed that when it's turn > on, applications don't get any noticeable delays when loading, I can run > QEMU now without sacrificing the performance of the host OS. Everything > runs so smooth. Networking also runs well without any problems, Sharing > files using gshare (Avahi FTP Daemon), SAMBA works, and other host can > connect to me without problems. I can even connect to this PC by my > .local address and grab the correct time in the internet using ntpd. I > have done alot of searching on the net because I was so reluctant about > it, I have fears about the effects on compiling a program, but couldn't > find any, so I just tried it myself and to my surprise It works like a > charm, and doesn't affect the compiled programs. > > The only settings that is not working in Ubuntu is enforcing mode, which > will not boot the machine, but permissive with strict policy works. I'm > using targeted policy. > > To install SELinux, just grab selinux-basics and it would install the > targeted policy. The strict policy and src policy would have to be > installed manually. After that you'll have to enable it at boot with > selinux=1 option. > > Just sharing this wonderful features most of us doesn't use. > > -- > Carpe Diem > permissive is next to useless unless you are trouble-shooting. FC6 does a good job with SELinux, even then you have to disable its protection for the smbd (if u wanna use samba, that is) From admin2 at enabled.com Sun Feb 4 01:54:44 2007 From: admin2 at enabled.com (Noah) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:54:44 -0800 Subject: temporary IP addition to firewall rules Message-ID: <45C53CE4.9070702@enabled.com> Hi, Does anybody have a recommendation for a program out there that would allow somebody to enter an account and password on my website, their IP address is cached, and the cached IP address is added temporarily to the firewall ruleset to be allowed. cheers, Noah From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 4 02:00:25 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:00:25 +0000 Subject: Controlling the GUI with the keyboard only In-Reply-To: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5549@nehemiah.joris2k.local> References: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5546@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <1170525611.7556.77.camel@localhost> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5549@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <45C53E39.3090302@yandex.ru> Joris Dobbelsteen wrote: > Thanks John, but... > how to get here, for starting? > Alt+F1, then right-arrow twice, down-arrow once, right-arrow once, down-arrow five times, hit enter From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 01:58:26 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 02:58:26 +0100 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: <45C53D89.8080106@yandex.ru> References: <45C53D89.8080106@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031758u36094fbahe678420218130c5a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > permissive is next to useless unless you are trouble-shooting. FC6 does > a good job with SELinux, even then you have to disable its protection > for the smbd (if u wanna use samba, that is) I'm using SAMBA (well, only smbd) with SELinux in enforcing mode (and I didn't flip any other booleans, anyways). I'm exporting a directory tree via SAMBA and the only trick is to use chcon to label the tree and its files accordingly: # chcon -R user_u:object_r:samba_share_t /tree From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 4 01:58:28 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:58:28 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C53DC4.1020706@gatech.edu> Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 03/02/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >>> Hi, another question: >>> >>> I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and >>> Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM >>> (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache >>> and smbd in that VM. >>> >>> What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? >> FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. > > Thanks for your thoughts: > > "not the greatest on-disk filesystem"? I think he just means inefficient, which is true. > > What do you mean with that particular phrase? I'm most concerned with > avoiding data corruption when switching between Windows XP and Ubuntu. I've been using a FAT32 data partition with Ubuntu and Windows XP for a while. Lately I haven't been using XP at all :) , but I *never* had any corruption problems. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 4 02:05:27 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:05:27 +0000 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45C53F67.2030007@yandex.ru> Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> Hi, another question: >> >> I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and >> Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM >> (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache >> and smbd in that VM. >> >> What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? > FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. > NTFS: Reportedly stable, supported by some kernels (not sure if Ubuntu > 6.06 supports it). Support for read/write from linux is newer and > theoretically therefore less dependable. But I haven't heard much about > it. > EXT3: Will only work if you install a special file browser in windows. > > So, go to wikipedia and other places, do some homework and take your > pick - they're all possible. > > Most people use FAT32 for this purpose. > > Duncan > > Hey!! I've got some experience of this myself. Essentially FAT sucks, really badly, only use it as a last resort. Getting NTFS read/write in linux is not easy, nor foolproof, but if you want it then you should be looking at NTFS 3G I think. Ext3, however, is fantastic under ubuntu and it works really really well under XP. Personally if I had XP installed then I would have a small data partition for XP system, everything else (userland) would be formatted ext3. the driver from http://www.fs-driver.org/ works like a charm. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun Feb 4 02:02:38 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:02:38 -0500 Subject: How to install Hynetd-0.2.3 under ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702031610k4cfa2f91vfb3d84346afb50a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702030834w4449e948p3b43ff7b397483ac@mail.gmail.com> <200702031205.12965.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <212696550702031610k4cfa2f91vfb3d84346afb50a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702032102.38861.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday 03 February 2007 19:10, zhihang wang wrote: > Thank you for your answer, Sckott. But how about my second installation? > I use the > apt-get install > command to install the net-snmp package, But it sill doesn't work. > I would imagine that you'd have to force the install now, but I'm not sure. I'd try: sudo apt-get -f install [packagename] Scott K From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Feb 4 02:07:13 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:07:13 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu Vista In-Reply-To: <45C53BD1.8030009@autotelic.com> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> <45C53BD1.8030009@autotelic.com> Message-ID: <45C53FD1.4020300@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave M G wrote: > TLUG, > > For your amusement: > > http://www.degredo.net/ That's hilarious... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFxT/R6PLtRzZbdhYRAsdKAJ9wSkTo8e7GzTiudifb7u5gB3a8CwCfQuy5 iN3NQfWzErU7g/XVsNhs3lE= =8CYp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 02:09:15 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:09:15 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45C53F67.2030007@yandex.ru> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <45C53F67.2030007@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031809r4a6f325ew8ddcc2182cd85c82@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Hey!! I've got some experience of this myself. Essentially FAT sucks, > really badly, only use it as a last resort. Getting NTFS read/write in > linux is not easy, nor foolproof, but if you want it then you should be > looking at NTFS 3G I think. > > Ext3, however, is fantastic under ubuntu and it works really really well > under XP. Personally if I had XP installed then I would have a small > data partition for XP system, everything else (userland) would be > formatted ext3. the driver from http://www.fs-driver.org/ works like a > charm. Since Linux can read almost any filesystem on Earth (NTFS, VFAT, HPFS and so), I would suggest choosing NTFS. On the other hand, NTFS sucks, so I suggest the following crazy idea: Use a "shared" partition formatted with a real, Linux-native filesystem, like ext3 or XFS. When running Windows, also run a small Linux guest on top of QEMU/VMware/put-your-favorite-virtualization-software-here that attaches to your shared partition and let it export the files in there via SAMBA. Probably not the simplest solution but Windows is so featureless (can only read VFAT and NTFS) and unstable (maybe the ext3 driver for Windows makes it crash) that it could make sense. From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 4 02:14:15 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:14:15 +0000 Subject: SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: References: <6f6293f10702031450u1d54ef37j480c7b86e21894f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C54177.6050601@yandex.ru> Luis wrote: > > > Which bothers me a lot about Debian. Why hasn't debian supported SELinux > as well as the Fedoras have? I understand the "laid-back" approach of > the DDs, but SELinux is mature and good enough to use now, especially on > a desktop system, where things won't be breaking as often as on a server. > > I remember reading something quite a long time ago. IIRC it was an on-going discussion between the devs of Ubuntu or Debian (don't remember which), they were discussing the relative merits of SELinux and AppArmor, saying that both had their problems and they would like to find a more comprehensive solution before integrating extra security precautions like SE or AppArmor... Fedora kept plugging away at SELinux and I think that it's now doing a decent job, and it's easy enough to alter the policy or turn it off completely (to aid in trouble-shooting). From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 02:03:17 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:03:17 +0100 Subject: temporary IP addition to firewall rules In-Reply-To: <45C53CE4.9070702@enabled.com> References: <45C53CE4.9070702@enabled.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031803g74132683mb76ba8f6b05dcd2a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Noah wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody have a recommendation for a program out there that would > allow somebody to enter an account and password on my website, their IP > address is cached, and the cached IP address is added temporarily to the > firewall ruleset to be allowed. I don't know of any, but if you feel adventurous (and you will since this is probably not very secure), you can write/use a CGI script that, when properly invoked, does this. You could configure Apache to protect the CGI script via authentication. From the CGI script is not very difficult to extract the client IP address and modify the firewall via iptables. From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 02:11:02 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:11:02 +0100 Subject: Firewall question In-Reply-To: <865773ce0702031716q5d72adc9je9c2036c33576922@mail.gmail.com> References: <45C08293.9070007@uni-graz.at> <865773ce0702031716q5d72adc9je9c2036c33576922@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031811o4db605a6u79fd823dac5c14f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Guillermo Garron wrote: > On 1/31/07, Dieter Schicker wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I know this is a bit off-topic but maybe someone can help. Would be great! > > > > I set up a iptables-firewall on a machine which works fine except that > > Tomcat startup and shutdown are very slow (up to 5 minutes!) since then. > > That's why I have a general question: > > > > How can I track which ports a process claims or tries to claim? > iftop > ---- sudo apt-get install iftop > > tcpdump -i any -s 1500 -w [file.cap] > and then use wireshark to "read" the resulting file Another option is running netstat -anp or doing a strace, but I think tcpdump is probably the best choice. From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 02:15:14 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:15:14 +0100 Subject: SELinux works like a charm in Ubuntu! In-Reply-To: <45C54177.6050601@yandex.ru> References: <6f6293f10702031450u1d54ef37j480c7b86e21894f4@mail.gmail.com> <45C54177.6050601@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702031815t2d93209eo7b814547ccd02595@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I remember reading something quite a long time ago. IIRC it was an > on-going discussion between the devs of Ubuntu or Debian (don't remember > which), they were discussing the relative merits of SELinux and > AppArmor, saying that both had their problems and they would like to > find a more comprehensive solution before integrating extra security > precautions like SE or AppArmor... Fedora kept plugging away at SELinux > and I think that it's now doing a decent job, and it's easy enough to > alter the policy or turn it off completely (to aid in trouble-shooting). While I don't know much of AppArmour, I think SELinux offers a nice feature set and can help in locking and thighting down the system. On the other hand, SELinux is far too complex, so I'm completely sure that it has bugs and somebody will find an exploit that will be able to partially or totally bypass some of the security mesaures that SELinux provides. But anyways, let it be SELinux, AppArmour or OpenBSD's systrace, I think policy enforcement and limiting what software can do is the right way to go. Much like ACLs on a firewall usually restrict everything while allowing what is required, I think systems that implement mandatory access control can help in improving system security. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Feb 4 02:27:04 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:27:04 +1100 Subject: having a normal user mount nfs filesystem In-Reply-To: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> Message-ID: <20070204132704.90b29cbb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:16 -0600 Linda Hanigan wrote: > I have been mounting our nfs with > mount 192.168.1.3:/usr/local/lib/letters /usr/local/lib/letters To allow users to mount nfs try a line like something like this in /etc/fstab : hostname:/home/foo /mount-point/nfs-foo nfs noauto,users,rw,hard,intr 0 0 Substitute IP numbers of course, if needed. > It works great, but if someone accidently shuts down instead of logging > off the machine they of course lose the filesystem. I don't quite follow this :) Do you mean they can't remount it themselves after rebooting? If so, a line like the one above for /etc/fstab should work for them , either mounting nfs shares from the "Computer" place in Nautilus, or from the command line with something like mount /media/your-mount-point > I would like to have away for a user to do this without a root password. i think the above should work fine. Note that using "users" in /etc/fstab means "any user can unmount this " , whereas "user" (singular) means the user who mounted it can umount it. > I vaguely remember setting up a way to restart lpr years ago without > needing a root password with some special file in /etc I can not for the > life of me remember the command. Anybody know what I am talking about? Separate issue - I think your user needs to be in the lpadmin group to administer printers etc. - but anyone should be able to use "lpr" as far as I know... Peter From haniganwork at earthlik.net Sun Feb 4 02:53:18 2007 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:53:18 -0600 Subject: having a normal user mount nfs filesystem In-Reply-To: <20070204132704.90b29cbb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> <20070204132704.90b29cbb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1170557598.3567.3.camel@star> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:27 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:16 -0600 > Linda Hanigan wrote: > > > I have been mounting our nfs with > > mount 192.168.1.3:/usr/local/lib/letters /usr/local/lib/letters > > To allow users to mount nfs try a line like something like this in /etc/fstab : > > hostname:/home/foo /mount-point/nfs-foo nfs noauto,users,rw,hard,intr 0 0 > Will it hang at boot if the server is down so the nfs is unavailable if I add this to fstab? I assume it would be okay since it doesn't actually mount it. Just asking because some of the stuff I read as options could create a system lock if the server was down. Thanks Linda From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 4 03:01:44 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 04:01:44 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170558104.5033.20.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 18:53 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > "not the greatest on-disk filesystem" Inefficiency, fragmentation (see [1]), no journal [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table P.S.: whatever happened to googling before asking the list? From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 4 03:02:22 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 04:02:22 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 21:28 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > FAT: Reliable You must be joking From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Feb 4 03:06:52 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:06:52 +1100 Subject: having a normal user mount nfs filesystem In-Reply-To: <1170557598.3567.3.camel@star> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> <20070204132704.90b29cbb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1170557598.3567.3.camel@star> Message-ID: <20070204140652.d56f39c5.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:53:18 -0600 Linda Hanigan wrote: > > > I have been mounting our nfs with > > > mount 192.168.1.3:/usr/local/lib/letters /usr/local/lib/letters > > > > To allow users to mount nfs try a line like something like this in /etc/fstab : > > > > hostname:/home/foo /mount-point/nfs-foo nfs noauto,users,rw,hard,intr 0 0 > > > > Will it hang at boot if the server is down so the nfs is unavailable if > I add this to fstab? I assume it would be okay since it doesn't actually > mount it. Just asking because some of the stuff I read as options could > create a system lock if the server was down. It shouldn't hang - notice that the "noauto" option is included, so the system will not try to mount the nfs share on boot. I use nfs between my laptop and desktop with a line almost exactly like this, and the laptop or desktop boot quite happily and independently :) Not sure what happens with mounting /usr/local/foo as far as permissions to mount/umount are concerned, and whether you want "rw" permissions rather than "ro" - you might want to look at the tldp nfs howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html Peter From jwbee4802 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 4 03:50:53 2007 From: jwbee4802 at yahoo.com (John B) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:50:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Can't copy Akregator folder to flash drive Message-ID: <906756.29889.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I am running Ubuntu Dapper Drake with only the Gnome desktop. I am using Akregator. I installed Akregator on another PC which is an identical installation and wanted to copy the entire Akregator folder from PC 1 to PC 2 so I could have all my data, preferences, etc. on PC 2. When I try to copy the Akregator folder to my flash drive, I get this message: Error "Invalid parameters" while copying "home/john...rss2.mk4" I was able to move my entire Pan folder over this way. Any ideas about what I can do to copy this folder so I can use it on PC 2? Thanks. John B. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 4 04:02:11 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:02:11 -0500 Subject: having a normal user mount nfs filesystem In-Reply-To: <20070204140652.d56f39c5.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> <20070204132704.90b29cbb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1170557598.3567.3.camel@star> <20070204140652.d56f39c5.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20070203230211.41118cf9@chisel> Peter Garrett wrote: > > > To allow users to mount nfs try a line like something like this > > > in /etc/fstab : > > > > > > hostname:/home/foo /mount-point/nfs-foo nfs > > > noauto,users,rw,hard,intr 0 0 > > > > > > > Will it hang at boot if the server is down so the nfs is > > unavailable if I add this to fstab? I assume it would be okay since > > it doesn't actually mount it. Just asking because some of the stuff > > I read as options could create a system lock if the server was down. > > It shouldn't hang - notice that the "noauto" option is included, so > the system will not try to mount the nfs share on boot. I use nfs > between my laptop and desktop with a line almost exactly like this, > and the laptop or desktop boot quite happily and independently :) Check the mount man page for the 'timeo' option. I use an fstab entry similar to this for mounting a local share automatically from my laptop while on the local net, but preventing said "hangs" while away from home... 192.168.x.x:/shares /mnt/shares nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr The 'inter' option deals with the share disappearing in the middle of a read/write operation. There's also a 'soft' option but it appears to be implicit when using 'timeo'. Your mileage may vary of course. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 4 03:37:13 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:37:13 -0400 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> Message-ID: <901g94-ojo.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:34:04AM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Have I missed a paradigm shift and become a dinosaur? >> >> RSS feed readers are _not_ news readers! > > Heh. English usage changes over time, you know. Yeah, and I'm very much in favour of it :-) The part that I object to is the appropriation of a term that's still _currently_ in use to mean something different. > Not very > long ago, 'weblog' was a term for the sort of things that > Apache dumps out into access.log. When I was at a software > company in late 2002, I remember a coworker being very > confused about what a 'weblog' was. And probably partly because of that confusion practically nobody uses "weblog" to mean "blog" any more. > > Times change. Language changes. > > That said, it'd be good if Akregator supported NNTP. Yuck! What on earth is the similarity between an RSS feed and NNTP? Why make Akregator do two jobs, when kontact already has both an RSS and an NNTP reader. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 4 03:51:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:51:21 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi, another question: > > I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and > Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM > (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache > and smbd in that VM. > > What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? I'm still pretty new to VMWare (just installed this week), but surely from the VM's viewpoint, you really only have the option of using the Host system's files, shared via Samba, so if your host is Linux, use your FS of choice, and if your host is Windows, use NTFS. And of course, files served by Apache are "HTTP", not FAT, NTFS or EXT3. I wouldn't put anything on a FAT filesystem. -- derek From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 04:17:45 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:17:45 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> On 03/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Hi, another question: > > > > I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and > > Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM > > (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache > > and smbd in that VM. > > > > What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? > > I'm still pretty new to VMWare (just installed this week), but surely from > the VM's viewpoint, you really only have the option of using the Host > system's files, shared via Samba, so if your host is Linux, use your FS of > choice, and if your host is Windows, use NTFS. And of course, files served > by Apache are "HTTP", not FAT, NTFS or EXT3. I wouldn't put anything on a > FAT filesystem. Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as root, however). Eric. From huxiaopengstat at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 04:51:15 2007 From: huxiaopengstat at gmail.com (xiaopeng hu) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:51:15 +0800 Subject: how to control the scroll speed of mouse wheel Message-ID: just as subject thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynd at lntenc.com Sun Feb 4 05:26:51 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:56:51 +0530 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sun Feb 4 08:09:13 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:09:13 +0100 Subject: help with restoring a password In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702040809.l1489CHp002484@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> I have shown a few people Ubuntu running on my Toshiba laptop, which has a French keyboard. The version I was running is in English. Without my observation (dimwit) a young laddie changed the password for me. Now I can not get back in. I can get the root/password ok. But I have no idea how to recover from the command line. Any help would be greatly appreciated. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 4 08:29:35 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:29:35 -0500 Subject: help with restoring a password In-Reply-To: <200702040809.l1489CHp002484@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> References: <200702040809.l1489CHp002484@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <45C5996F.5030007@gatech.edu> Trevor Nye wrote: > I have shown a few people Ubuntu running on my Toshiba laptop, which has a > French keyboard. The version I was running is in English. Without my > observation (dimwit) a young laddie changed the password for me. Now I can > not get back in. I can get the root/password ok. But I have no idea how to > recover from the command line. I'm not sure what you mean. 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URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sun Feb 4 09:18:36 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:18:36 +0100 Subject: help with restoring a password In-Reply-To: <45C5996F.5030007@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702040918.l149IiGJ026537@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> >>>> sudo passwd trevor [Trevor Nye] >>>>>> Matt genius, I have to say I was expecting it to be a lot more difficult than that. Have a great Sunday From ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl Sun Feb 4 10:45:27 2007 From: ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl (Bastian) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:45:27 +0100 Subject: Roaming user configuration In-Reply-To: <20070203183509.h8clu204qi4kgook@trinidad.tangiblesoftware.com> References: <20070203183509.h8clu204qi4kgook@trinidad.tangiblesoftware.com> Message-ID: <20070204104531.042DD4D0CE@melvex.xs4all.nl> Timothy Spear schreef: > Hi, > I am trying to create a mixture of a thick and thin client setup on my > network. Which would ideally also work with laptops. I would like to have the > users home directory (which includes menus and everything else) roam with > him/her as they switch computers. > As I see it, I have two choices. First xdmcp configuration. This means I > need a large server and is very network intensive. Second choice, use a central > LDAP and NFS mount the home directories and take advantage of the local thick > machine resources. For laptops, I am thinking of a boot and shutdown script to > update the designated user's profile on the main NFS server if a connection is > available. > Does anyone have a better solution? Or has anyone implemented my second > idea? > > Tim > > A few year ago I moved from NIS/NFS to Kerberos/LDAP/OpenAFS for roaming home dirs and a central user database in a mixed Debian /Ubuntu environment. The latter setup is much more stable and easier to maintain. It also supports easy replication and mirroring. I can recommend it. I never pumped home directories from and to laptops though. They can access the network recources as soon ad they are plugged in (by using a utility like ifplugd). xdmcp is too slow for playing movies, on my network anyway. Bastian From cb at lim.nl Sun Feb 4 11:39:23 2007 From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:39:23 +0100 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? Message-ID: Hi all, I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her get online. Since my experience with Windows is mostly limited to running v3.1 in a window under OS/2 back in the receding haze of the previous millenium, my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install Dapper. However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, what potential problems I should try to anticipate. Thanks. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 4 11:59:48 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:59:48 +0000 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C5CAB4.8050707@manchester.ac.uk> Colin, Colin Brace wrote: > Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any > PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. Yes, I recently installed a PC for my mother who is in her mid seventies. Her only experience with computers was along time ago at work and then she only used a character based application, so she had zero knowledge of windows or the mouse. I chose to put Ubuntu on her machine because as she had no experience it seemed it would not matter what system she learnt. Also, it was zero cost and any apps she would need would zero cost too. Finally, as she live just under 300 miles away, I wanted a system I could easily manage remotely. (I use ssh to connect and command line to manage). Her use of the machine is quite limited. Web browsing, Google mail, oh and she likes the games that come with Gnome! My brother briefly introduced her to Open Office recently, but she has little use for this and without a printer it's not much use. > I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, > what potential problems I should try to anticipate. The cons in my situation are mainly to do with her living so far away. Talking her through some tricky steps to solve problems is quite tedious. (The hardest was when I sent her a new wireless router after the first one failed, but that was more to do with the router than Ubuntu). But her main obstacle was learning to use the mouse! It took her a few weeks to get proficient with it. It was only then we taught her to double click! The other real con is that she was thinking of taking some courses being run at her local library for new users to PCs. Inevitably, these courses all use Windows and finding Linux based equivalent courses is impossible. There is no LUG nearby either, so getting local help is quite difficult too. Having said that, the system has needed almost no administration from me since I set it up. I set it to automatically install updates and I've had to fix a frozen X server on occasions. I've also set up accounts on the machine for other members of the family, knowing that their work won't interfere with each other. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl Sun Feb 4 12:18:07 2007 From: Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl (Joris Dobbelsteen) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:18:07 +0100 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? References: Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF554B@nehemiah.joris2k.local> >-----Original Message----- >From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Colin Brace >Sent: zondag 4 februari 2007 12:39 >To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions >Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? > [snip] >Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people >without any PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean >absolutely zippo. No, I'm a faitful Windows user for desktops. Its much much more widely known and more people are familiar with it. However you need to ensure you have time to learn them new things. Even basic things takes some time. What it starts with is doing every step-by-step, not recognizing the patterns software usually has. >I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the >cons are, what potential problems I should try to anticipate. Here are the cons for Linux for beginners: They will ask help from other people, where 99% is familiar with Windows XP, Outlook/Outlook Express and Microsoft Word. Also know where they are getting there support from. If they take courses, its all about Microsoft software. Just consider what they want to do and with who they share information and knowledge. See went to others to and attempted to teach them how to do tricks. This resulted (nearly?) in returning the PC to the shop owner as he neglected to install Office on it (he responsed: "they won't even notice it."). Consider this carefully, then pick whatever suits you best... - Joris From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Sun Feb 4 12:33:20 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:33:20 +0000 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She > is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her > get online. > > Since my experience with Windows is mostly limited to running v3.1 in > a window under OS/2 back in the receding haze of the previous > millenium, my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install > Dapper. > > However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I > help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls > from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. > > Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any > PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. > > I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, > what potential problems I should try to anticipate. Case A: I have experience of installing Kubuntu onto a daily used desktop machine for an elderly (85?) but sprightly friend who had impulsively bought a desktop his friend was discarding. He has a dell laptop wiht XP only which is not used much. The desktop is now dual boot xp Kubuntu, defaults to kubuntu. He has always been sesitive to worry about security an dwith kubuntu knows he can relax. His internet comnnection is adsl ethernet. He suses webmail and firefox is no problem, it is also on the windows partition too, as is Open Office etc. He now knows how to get into windows if he needs to, but I think uses kubuntu most. He is not an avid user of the PC, but there has been no problem whatsoever, except the anxiety of lack of security if windows is used. I think Kubuntu is a better choice if possible for a beginner. Case B: I also installed linux (suse) some time ago onto an ancient PC for an even less able elderly friend (still on dialup). the then existing win98 was problematic and since I was the only support it was inconvenient to visit just to sort out some small thing. I used suse at the time (not now) and it replaced win98 easily, I chose kde. I set up kmail and the dialer (external serial modem) and after a number of short q&a sessions about initiating dialling and initiating calling for mail, the situation was quite stable, and successful. Not least from me because I could be sure that the system had not changed if an apparent problem appeared. None did. I have no hesitation in recommending kubuntu for absolute beginners. (As long as they dont think they will be using windows - their informed knowledge is important I think). I say quite truthfully that I do not use windows and cannot really fix many (if any) problems, however, I can fix linux, although few problems anyway, and I use linux *because* linux is much more secure than windows. Good luck -- ac From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Sun Feb 4 12:47:48 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:47:48 +0000 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070204124748.GC4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (04/02/07 12:39), Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She > is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her > get online. > > Since my experience with Windows is mostly limited to running v3.1 in > a window under OS/2 back in the receding haze of the previous > millenium, my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install > Dapper. > > However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I > help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls > from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. > > Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any > PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. > > I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, > what potential problems I should try to anticipate. I use Ubuntu for non-technical users including my 81 year old mother; if you set up Remote Desktop, you can support your neighbour remotely depending on your broadband setup - we use VPN through proprietary routers. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sun Feb 4 12:49:32 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:49:32 +0100 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702041249.l14Cne0r020906@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> I install windows and ubuntu, for some folks here in france. I enjoy the fact that we sometimes meet out and a couple of times the ubuntu users have mentioned what they are using. They cannot understand the talk-talk from the windows group about "security". That's my 2 centimes worth. Install Ubuntu it is easier and free. Regards From email.listen at googlemail.com Sun Feb 4 12:56:23 2007 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:56:23 +0100 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702041356.26235.email.listen@googlemail.com> Hi Colin On Sun, 4. February 2007 12:39:23 Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She > is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her > get online. > > Since my experience with Windows is mostly limited to running v3.1 in > a window under OS/2 back in the receding haze of the previous > millenium, my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install > Dapper. > > However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I > help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls > from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. > > Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any > PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. > > I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, > what potential problems I should try to anticipate. I would say that it depends on the knowledge of her social environment precisely the people aound her (and in a acceptable / reachable distance). (And also a little bit a matter of age. Due to my experience the youger people are the more there is a tendency to give up when problems show up.) For a totaly beginner it should make no difference which OS she will choose, Widows and Linux are a new world to her. So whatever she will use she has to learn a lot and by this she will have a lot of questions. So I would ask for which OS and which applications she will get more and better support by friends, neighbours, relatives, adult eveing classes, Linux Gebruikers Groepens... If your neighbour belongs to those who prefer to learn in a group and not alone for herself a local NLLGG [1] or LUG [2] might be a good starting point to make new friends, and experiences of course. May be one of the LPI self study groups is of interesting to her. So choosing Linux will give her a chance for social interaction, meeting new people, ...., IMO much more than windows does. So in the end it is a matter of her social environment and her social skills (e.g. likes to make friends) not of the OS or the applications. It will be a _very_ _bad_ idea to install Linux on her laptop and leave her alone in the wild afterwards. [1] http://www.nllgg.nl/ [2] http://nl.linux.org/community/lug.php URL of LUG Amsterdam http://liga.osc.nl/ seems to be down... regards, thomas From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 14:52:38 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:52:38 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: > Eric; > > The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. > I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Feb 4 16:04:44 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:04:44 -0500 Subject: windows remote Message-ID: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Can anyone point me to explicit directions for remotely controlling/administering an XP box from edgy? What software do I use on edgy? How do I configure XP? Also, same three questions about remote access to/from another edgy box? Thanks, Paul From philsf at ufrj.br Sun Feb 4 16:08:12 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:08:12 -0200 Subject: PDF to formatted text (?) Message-ID: <200702041408.12900.philsf@ufrj.br> Hi, If I wanted to edit text from a PDF, I could use pdftotext and use the plain text provided then. But then, I would also have to recreate the whole formatation of bold, italics and such. I thought it would be nice if OOo not only exported to PDF but also imported, but I just checked and it doesn´t. Does anyone around know of a way to recover/convert the pdf to formatted text (maybe RTF, or else)? regards FF From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 4 17:28:34 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:28:34 -0500 Subject: PDF to formatted text (?) In-Reply-To: <200702041408.12900.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200702041408.12900.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <45C617C2.9000207@gatech.edu> Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > Hi, > > If I wanted to edit text from a PDF, I could use pdftotext and use the plain > text provided then. But then, I would also have to recreate the whole > formatation of bold, italics and such. > > I thought it would be nice if OOo not only exported to PDF but also imported, > but I just checked and it doesn´t. > > Does anyone around know of a way to recover/convert the pdf to formatted text > (maybe RTF, or else)? Try: pdftohtml -noframes myFile.pdf Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dlithgow at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 21:55:42 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:55:42 +0100 Subject: StudioDV In-Reply-To: <20070201232545.45b8e6fb@localhost> References: <20070201232545.45b8e6fb@localhost> Message-ID: <1170539742.9890.1.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 23:25 +0100, sebastien wrote: > Hi all ! > > Just a simple question : has anyone ever used a Pinnacle StudioDV PCI > card ? Id like to read my DV camcorder with KINO. > > Ive loaded the dv1394 and ieee1394 modules, prior to check whether the > PCI card was detected or not in my lspci devices. But finally it looks > like it is not recognised...?! > > Is there any solution ? Have you looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire Please let me know how the page helps you, or not. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Sun Feb 4 18:07:59 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:07:59 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best diskformat to use References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Felipe! You wrote on Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:52:38 +0100: FAS> On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: ??>> Eric; ??>> ??>> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. ??>> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. F>I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. At the moment I am not using Linux regularly but I think that is about to change when I install Ubuntu 6.10! Recently, I have been using the Live Disc version of Knoppix and have yet to have problems with FAT32 both reading and writing. I don't expect to be able to write NTFS but the files I have wanted to read have not given me any trouble. I might mention that my use of Linux has been intermittent tho' I was excited when I first read of Linus' initial postings before a kernel version of 1.0 was achieved. I first tried to install the "Halloween Edition" of RedHat but its hardware use and recognition were antiquated in comparison to Slackware 2.1 that I actually installed. For years I used versions of Suse but there has been a gap of a few years (for reasons that are unimportant :-) James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Sun Feb 4 18:30:40 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:30:40 +0000 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (04/02/07 11:04), Paul Kaplan wrote: > Can anyone point me to explicit directions for remotely > controlling/administering an XP box from edgy? > What software do I use on edgy? How do I configure XP? > Also, same three questions about remote access to/from another edgy box? Download VNC Server from http://www.realvnc.com/ (free version); install and configure VNC server with a password. Install xvncviewer on your Ubuntu box; launch xvncviewer, type in IP address of XP box and password and away you go :) Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From garryknight at gmx.net Sun Feb 4 18:31:16 2007 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:31:16 +0000 Subject: PDF to formatted text (?) References: <200702041408.12900.philsf@ufrj.br> <45C617C2.9000207@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > >> Does anyone around know of a way to recover/convert the pdf to formatted >> text (maybe RTF, or else)? > > pdftohtml -noframes myFile.pdf Or you can import it into KWord. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Sun Feb 4 18:48:18 2007 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:48:18 +0100 Subject: Lost all CTRL+ALT keys Message-ID: <1170614898.8825.2.camel@localhost> I've just been trying to log into a website and discovered that I can't write a backslash (the 'windows' one). That means I've lost the 'at' in emails addresses and lots of other things. I went into 'System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout' to make sure it was correct, and that looks fine. Is this a problem with the GL Desktop and compiz? Please help - I'm having to boot windows to do basic things.... arrrgh! 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That means I've lost the 'at' in > emails addresses and lots of other things. > > I went into 'System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout' to make sure it > was correct, and that looks fine. Is this a problem with the GL Desktop > and compiz? Please help - I'm having to boot windows to do basic > things.... arrrgh! > > Duncan > > -- > Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Feb 4 20:06:44 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:06:44 -0500 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Sunday 04 February 2007 1:30:40 pm Clive Menzies wrote: > On (04/02/07 11:04), Paul Kaplan wrote: > > Can anyone point me to explicit directions for remotely > > controlling/administering an XP box from edgy? > > What software do I use on edgy? How do I configure XP? > > Also, same three questions about remote access to/from another edgy box? > > Download VNC Server from http://www.realvnc.com/ (free version); install > and configure VNC server with a password. > > Install xvncviewer on your Ubuntu box; launch xvncviewer, type in IP > address of XP box and password and away you go :) > How do I get the IP address for a box that's behind a firewall on a LAN? P From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun Feb 4 20:14:07 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:14:07 -0500 Subject: Boot from external USB drive? Message-ID: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> Hi, For testing Feisty, I'd like to install it on an external USB drive, at least at first. Are there instructions out there describing how to set up to be able to boot that installation, preferably with a grub menu entry? Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 4 20:20:05 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:20:05 -0800 Subject: PDF to formatted text (?) In-Reply-To: References: <200702041408.12900.philsf@ufrj.br> <45C617C2.9000207@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Garry Knight wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Felipe Figueiredo wrote: >> >>> Does anyone around know of a way to recover/convert the pdf to formatted >>> text (maybe RTF, or else)? >> >> pdftohtml -noframes myFile.pdf > > Or you can import it into KWord. > Now that's just slick! Thanks for pointing that out; I would have never thought of loading KWord. SaveAs to Opendocument text format works like a charm too. From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 4 20:31:43 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:31:43 +0100 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1170621103.5033.33.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:06 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > How do I get the IP address for a box that's behind a firewall on a > LAN? The easiest way is to go here: http://whatismyip.org/ From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 4 20:33:03 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:33:03 +0100 Subject: Boot from external USB drive? In-Reply-To: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> References: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: <1170621183.5033.35.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:14 -0500, David Abrahams wrote: > Are there instructions out there http://www.google.com/search?q=boot+usb+ubuntu From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 4 20:44:05 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:44:05 +0100 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <1170621103.5033.33.camel@chronic> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1170621103.5033.33.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <1170621845.5033.40.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 21:31 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > The easiest way is to go here: http://whatismyip.org/ Of course if the firewall does NAT then what you will see at this URL will just be the firewall's IP address. You must then take care to set up port forwarding on the firewall for the vnc protocol From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Sun Feb 4 20:52:01 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:52:01 +0000 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> <200702041506.44233.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070204205201.GI4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (04/02/07 15:06), Paul Kaplan wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2007 1:30:40 pm Clive Menzies wrote: > > On (04/02/07 11:04), Paul Kaplan wrote: > > > Can anyone point me to explicit directions for remotely > > > controlling/administering an XP box from edgy? > > > What software do I use on edgy? How do I configure XP? > > > Also, same three questions about remote access to/from another edgy box? > > > > Download VNC Server from http://www.realvnc.com/ (free version); install > > and configure VNC server with a password. > > > > Install xvncviewer on your Ubuntu box; launch xvncviewer, type in IP > > address of XP box and password and away you go :) > > > How do I get the IP address for a box that's behind a firewall on a LAN? > P Ah! this may be a little more tricky. Do you have control of the firewall? Where we are doing this remotely, we either set up a LAN to LAN VPN or remote dial-up VPN. Without knowing much about the setup (where the XP box is) it is difficult to advise. An alternative is to assign a public IP address to the XP box with NAT translation on your router. This is a bit out of my depth... someone else may have a better suggestion. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From .jim.silverton at comcast.net Sun Feb 4 20:55:19 2007 From: .jim.silverton at comcast.net (James Silverton) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:55:19 -0500 Subject: Boot from external USB drive? References: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> <1170621183.5033.35.camel@chronic> Message-ID: Hello, Mario! You wrote on Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:33:03 +0100: MV> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:14 -0500, David Abrahams wrote: ??>> Are there instructions out there MV> http://www.google.com/search?q=boot+usb+ubuntu It will work if you can set your BIOS to boot from a USB disc. I don't think I can, more's the pity :-) James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 4 16:36:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:36:07 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > > Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition > to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as > root, however). How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it out. -- derek From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:06:28 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:06:28 +0100 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C658E4.9090003@gmail.com> Eric Dunbar a écrit : > So why isn't NTFS supported natively? It's been around for a long time > (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the > Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things so > would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like > features of Windows NT/XP Pro). > > Eric. > Ntfs is not supported (at least hardly) because Microsoft doesn't release the NTFS specification, so we just try to guess the specification. From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:09:55 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:09:55 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C659B3.7070109@gmail.com> > Thanks for your thoughts: > > "not the greatest on-disk filesystem"? > > What do you mean with that particular phrase? I'm most concerned with > avoiding data corruption when switching between Windows XP and Ubuntu. > > Eric. > Fat doesn't support permissions and file larger than 4Go. From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:14:57 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:14:57 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> Mario Vukelic a écrit : > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 21:28 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: >> FAT: Reliable > > You must be joking > > You need to give arguments to support what you're saying. You said 'FAT sucks'. Please tell us why . cheers From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:17:40 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:17:40 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : > On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: >> Eric; >> >> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. >> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. > > I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. > Please, tell us why you think FAT isn't reliable. thanks From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:21:47 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:21:47 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu Vista In-Reply-To: <45C53FD1.4020300@fahrlander.net> References: <1170553396.29793.6.camel@star> <45C53BD1.8030009@autotelic.com> <45C53FD1.4020300@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45C65C7B.4050408@gmail.com> Brian Fahrlander a écrit : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dave M G wrote: >> TLUG, >> >> For your amusement: >> >> http://www.degredo.net/ > > That's hilarious... I agree :D , I love the idea :p From m.stanziano at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 22:31:58 2007 From: m.stanziano at gmail.com (Michael Stanziano) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:31:58 -0500 Subject: Banshee / iTunes Share Message-ID: <5bc6eb750702041431p39c1e4c3o3752b850da426d12@mail.gmail.com> I recently installed Banshee and the banshee-daap plugin via Synaptic in order to try to listen to music shared from iTunes on my Powerbook. When I open Banshee though, the Music Sharing plugin cannont be enabled. Anyone have any experience w/ this? (i'm running 6.10 btw) Or know of another way to listen to iTunes shared music? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From witt at cat06.de Sun Feb 4 23:00:16 2007 From: witt at cat06.de (Denis Witt) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:00:16 +0100 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Colin Brace schrieb: > I can think of various reasons pro; just wondering what the cons are, > what potential problems I should try to anticipate. I think it's sometimes even easier to make someone happy with Ubuntu who not know anything about Windows. My sister for example got some Windows experience and was at first a bit unhappy with Ubuntu, but now she really likes it. Another friend of mine without any Windows experience liked it from the first second. Of course this is not representive, but i think it's really a bit easier to get familiar with Linux when you don't know windows, because anybody with windows experience asks about root and administrator privileges and need some time to understand the lot more easier sudo/gksu. If you will use those systems from the first second you will just wonder how an OS could not work like this. ;) Hope you got my point, my english isn't that well to explain it any better. Bye for now! From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 23:07:38 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:07:38 +0100 Subject: windows remote In-Reply-To: <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <200702041104.44734.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20070204183040.GE4935@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702041507r4414d654o292f72020ce4cb0e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (04/02/07 11:04), Paul Kaplan wrote: > > Can anyone point me to explicit directions for remotely > > controlling/administering an XP box from edgy? > > What software do I use on edgy? How do I configure XP? > > Also, same three questions about remote access to/from another edgy box? > > Download VNC Server from http://www.realvnc.com/ (free version); install > and configure VNC server with a password. Better yet: enable Remote Desktop and use tsclient (or rdesktop). RDP is way much faster than VNC and more secure (unless you tunnel VNC over SSH). From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 4 23:50:00 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:50:00 +0000 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 03/02/07, Peter Garrett wrote: >> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 >> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: >> >>>> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu >>>> repositories? >>> Don't have a clue. :) >>> >>> Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose >>> it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. >> My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no >> longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief >> on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) > > So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu? > >> I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some >> criticism of Webmin IIRC... > > Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e. > non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a > central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)? > but the latest version of webmin is available on their website in a .deb package.. what's the big deal? Go and download that and install with gdebi, dpkg or whatever. From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 00:03:57 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 01:03:57 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : > > On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: > >> Eric; > >> > >> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. > >> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. > > > > I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. > > > Please, tell us why you think FAT isn't reliable. It's patented, doesn't support transactions/atomic operations, uses an antiquated and obsolete method to store metadata with very simple redundancy (first FAT copy, second FAT copy), doesn't support permissions./ACLs, maximum file size is limited to 4GB, its get fragmented easily, tends to destroy the first few blocks of Flash/NAND memories since the FAT table is stored at the very beginning of the disk, etc. Other than that, FAT works pretty well for floppy disks, USB keys and really small hard disks. For something, I would use a modern filesystem. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 00:18:30 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:18:30 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > > > Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition > > to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as > > root, however). > > How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it > out. Edit the preferences for your VM (assuming you're using Server). You can "Add" another hard drive -- you may have to go to the advanced tab when you're adding an HD. You can then choose whether to add a single partition or the whole drive to the VM. In the VM you then mount the drive as you normally would. Caveat: people have warned that mounting the drive is "experimental" but another individual reported that he'd been using it for a while without problems. YMMV. Anyway, I'm now learning what MBR and GRUB stand for (I come from the PPC world where you only ever have to deal with yaboot and it's generally impossible to render your machine unbootable). I managed to hose my MBR (I think) by telling my Windows XP CD to 'fixmbr' and now doing the "GRUB dance" with the live Cd to no avail (e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows). Will try a few more things with the Win XP CD before I try to see what installing Linux and/or Windows XP onto the blank partition will do... I've got two HDs. Originally the 80 GB drive was 80 GB Windows XP (the person who sold it to me installed a base Win XP Pro onto it). Then I shrunk that to 20 GB and installed Ubuntu onto the rest (I shrunk it to see how shrinking would work... I wasn't planning on using it). I've got a second 20 GB drive that's Win XP only that was installed before I installed Ubuntu onto the 80 GB drive. Windows installed a 'boot loader' (or whatever it is) that allowed me to choose between the two WIn XP installs (presumably into the 20 GB partition on the 80 GB drive). Ubuntu later installed GRUB which ran before the Win XP 'boot loader'. When I destroyed the 20 GB partition the Win XP loader (predictably) stopped working -- I figured reinstalling GRUB as per the above link would cause GRUB to pick up on the other (lonely) WIndows XP and add it to the menu -- no such luck. Trying ... 'fixboot'... "Non-System disk"... no such luck Eric. From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Mon Feb 5 00:28:31 2007 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:28:31 -0200 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 install wifi failing! Message-ID: <200702042228.31577.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Hi There! I've just run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD on a PII-400Mhz and it was plain easy..... But on hard-drive installation (after booting) the Atheros wifi pci card is not recognized. I proceeded to hd install after all configs done and working. I keep getting an error like: SIS- something CARD error! Tried the LiveCD again and everything is just fine!!!! How can I fix this thing? It's a wifi desktop. Any help? Please? Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 00:32:11 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:32:11 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702041632x352cbd5dv146bfa9db9e16b7e@mail.gmail.com> On 04/02/07, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 2/4/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : > > > On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: > > >> Eric; > > >> > > >> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. > > >> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. > > > > > > I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. > > > > > Please, tell us why you think FAT isn't reliable. > > It's patented, Ideological. Doesn't have a direct bearing on reliability (and, any philosophical responses really belong on sounder). > doesn't support transactions/atomic operations, uses an > antiquated and obsolete method to store metadata with very simple > redundancy (first FAT copy, second FAT copy), doesn't support > permissions./ACLs, maximum file size is limited to 4GB, its get > fragmented easily, tends to destroy the first few blocks of Flash/NAND > memories since the FAT table is stored at the very beginning of the > disk, etc. > > Other than that, FAT works pretty well for floppy disks, USB keys and > really small hard disks. For something, I would use a modern > filesystem. The unfortunate thing (that I've managed to discover in my readings) is that it's the only file system that's got robust ("native") support by both Linux and Windows. NTFS, though superior to FAT is not fully supported by Linux yet nor is ext3fs supported natively by Windows. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 00:47:53 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:47:53 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> On 04/02/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > On 03/02/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > >> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 00:58:38 -0500 > >> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > >> > >>>> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu > >>>> repositories? > >>> Don't have a clue. :) > >>> > >>> Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose > >>> it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. > >> My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no > >> longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief > >> on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) > > > > So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu? > > > >> I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some > >> criticism of Webmin IIRC... > > > > Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e. > > non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a > > central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)? > > > but the latest version of webmin is available on their website in a > .deb package.. what's the big deal? Go and download that and install > with gdebi, dpkg or whatever. No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly relied on Synaptic ;-)). What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories -- it's such a useful program. Anyway, I was merely picking people's brains to see what they thought. You've made me curious about the FC tools so I'll check those out in VMware when I get my WIndows-Ubuntu dual boot working and ready to go for serving. I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. I now figure I should put a little more thought into this one ;-) (Last time round, 2 GB for my System 9 BootX boot loader ( should've been 50 MB), 25 GB for OS X 10.2 (for the hell of it), 8 GB for / and 35 GB for /home... I eventually formatted the OS X partition and symlinked it to a specific directory in /home because I ran out of room on /home... probably could've done it more elegantly but it works ;-). From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 5 01:00:36 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:00:36 -0500 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070204200036.3bec1e3c@chisel> Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She > is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her > get online. > > Since my experience with Windows is mostly limited to running v3.1 in > a window under OS/2 back in the receding haze of the previous > millenium, my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install > Dapper. > > However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I > help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls > from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. I've built or repaired, and then supportted, machines numbering literally in the thousands through the years including those "boom" years when everyone was getting their first PC. After all that I can tell you that the numbers and types of calls you'll get have little or nothing to do with the choice of OS and virtually everything to do with the individual. :) Some people are just better problem solvers and more logical thinkers than others. If you're going to support a machine you'll *both* be happier, if you're happier. The better you can visualize what's going on at the other end of the phone line the easier it is for you to lend a hand. And the less "comfortable" you are with an OS, the more frustrating it will be. Plain and simple. One problem you struggle with offsets a hundred you can solve as a matter of reflex, so my advice would be to make a determination regarding if and how much support you're willing to provide first. Then the OS decision is an easy one. If you intend to hand off the "responsibility" then leave Windows in place because it will be easier for grandma to find help elsewhere. If you're going to assume most of the responsibility install whatever it is you're best acquainted with. Even if it does generate more questions, it will be a good experience for all instead of a seemingly endless stream of get-back-to-you's and "Why did I get involved" introspection. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)-OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 01:26:23 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:26:23 -0500 Subject: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) Message-ID: <77520bee0702041726u63e6e6a2ne11ed7448d2235cb@mail.gmail.com> On 04/02/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > > > > > > Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition > > > to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as > > > root, however). > > > > How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it > > out. > > Edit the preferences for your VM (assuming you're using Server). > > You can "Add" another hard drive -- you may have to go to the advanced > tab when you're adding an HD. You can then choose whether to add a > single partition or the whole drive to the VM. > > In the VM you then mount the drive as you normally would. > > Caveat: people have warned that mounting the drive is "experimental" > but another individual reported that he'd been using it for a while > without problems. YMMV. Oh, yeah, you have to be running vmware as root to do this. I don't like that idea and I'm sure there's a 'better' way to do it but I don't have the luxury of time (as you can no doubt tell I'm procrastinating now ;-). > Anyway, I'm now learning what MBR and GRUB stand for (I come from the > PPC world where you only ever have to deal with yaboot and it's > generally impossible to render your machine unbootable). I managed to > hose my MBR (I think) by telling my Windows XP CD to 'fixmbr' and now > doing the "GRUB dance" with the live Cd to no avail (e.g. > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows). > Will try a few more things with the Win XP CD before I try to see what > installing Linux and/or Windows XP onto the blank partition will do... Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the windows partition that I just installed. Now to figure out what "boot" means (a * in fdisk) and now I can get my external Windows XP disk back to being recognised by GRUB (I don't care whether I recover this particular installation but I do want to know HOW to do so so that I can avoid running into the same headaches later when the system is active as the server). From rvernica at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 01:41:18 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:41:18 -0800 Subject: dual boot - xp behaves strange In-Reply-To: References: <9becf9a00701162010q4371e946n307c36272d2038c0@mail.gmail.com> <20070119092241.GA3965@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20070120215027.GG3966@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45B72FBF.7020009@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Hi, I managed to solve it. I just removed the "makeactive" line from the Windows XP boot section in the Grub config file. It works now. Thanks, Ray Derek Broughton wrote: > Dana J. Laude wrote: > >> Rares Vernica wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried the changes that you suggested. The Linux partition boots OK. >>> The Windows partition does *NOT* boot. I tried with "root" and also >>> "rootnoverify". >> Rares, >> >> Try this link: >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329664 > > I don't see anything there that can help. > > Googling for 'grub "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"' helps, but > admittedly not much :-( > > One suggestion is just that the MBR is not correct - which may well be true, > since Windows seems to be messing with it - and just > rerun "grub-install /dev/hda" (or whatever your device name is). From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 02:35:02 2007 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:35:02 -0400 Subject: Fwd: temporary IP addition to firewall rules In-Reply-To: <45C62B97.5050304@mailinator.com> References: <45C53CD3.6070500@enabled.com> <45C54464.7070909@spider-security.net> <45C62B97.5050304@mailinator.com> Message-ID: <865773ce0702041835v6cab422ar788a24f8f58942c4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, this could be maybe interesting for Ubuntu lists readers, as it was originally posted to Ubuntu and Fedora Lists, and a good answer come from the Fedora Lists, I am Top Posting this, because it has nothing to do with the original post.. Please read the whole thread from here. regards, Guillermo. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Wright Date: Feb 4, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: temporary IP addition to firewall rules To: lists at spider-security.net, For users of Fedora Nathaniel Hall wrote: > Noah wrote: > >>Does anybody have a recommendation for a program out there that would >>allow somebody to enter an account and password on my website, their >>IP address is cached, and the cached IP address is added temporarily >>to the firewall ruleset to be allowed. > > I have actually considered doing almost exactly the same thing. What I > was planning on doing was writing a php page that the user would log in > with. When they do, then php would run a system command using their IP > to add a netfilter (iptables) firewall rule. There would then be a cron > job that runs daily to restart the firewall, thus the added rules would > be removed. > Hi All, This sounds like a perfect match for ipset. A single iptables rule could refer to the set and the firewall wouldn't have to be restarted. Addresses could be added and removed from the set to provide dynamic access control. (I use this technique to block miscreants automatically; their own actions put them into the set without any manual intervention on my part.) Note that it would require rolling your own kernel. http://ipset.netfilter.org :m) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org From witt at cat06.de Mon Feb 5 03:23:53 2007 From: witt at cat06.de (Denis Witt) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:23:53 +0100 Subject: LVM trouble adding new drive Message-ID: Hi, i'm running Edgy on an VIA embedded PC with a 250GB HDD in a LVM-Group named "Ubuntu". This was the only drive in this device and of course i'm booting from this drive. Now i want to add a second drive, it's excatly the same model as the already installed one. So i put the drive into the PC and started Edgy, everything fine: cfdisk /dev/hdc => hdc1 => 0x8e => Everything fine pvcreate /dev/hdc1 => Got error message: root at fenchurch:~# pvcreate -v /dev/hdc Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices Wiping internal VG cache Device /dev/hdc not found (or ignored by filtering). pvcreate /dev/hdc1 -v --force => Seems fine: root at fenchurch:~# pvcreate -v /dev/hdc1 --force Set up physical volume for "/dev/hdc1" with 488391618 available sectors Zeroing start of device /dev/hdc1 Physical volume "/dev/hdc1" successfully created vgextend Ubuntu /dev/hdc1 => this damn thing won't work: root at fenchurch:~# vgextend Ubuntu /dev/hdc1 -v Checking for volume group "Ubuntu" Archiving volume group "Ubuntu" metadata (seqno 3). Adding physical volume '/dev/hdc1' to volume group 'Ubuntu' No physical volume label read from /dev/hdc1 /dev/hdc1 not identified as an existing physical volume Unable to add physical volume '/dev/hdc1' to volume group 'Ubuntu'. Don't have a clue. Any hints? Thanks! -- Regards, Denis Witt -------------------------------------- Konzeption & Technik CaT Concepts and Training GmbH Amsterdamer Str. 216 D-50735 Cologne Germany Fon : +49 (0) 221 / 99 55 59 - 16 Fax : +49 (0) 221 / 99 55 59 - 29 Mobil : +49 (0) 176 / 20 19 36 80 Mail : witt at concepts-and-training.de Jabber: dwitt at jabber.ccc.de -------------------------------------- Member of Board: Sandra Gausmann Sven Kapust Gerald Konrad Alexandra Oehlke Volker Röbbelen Denis Witt Amtsgericht Köln HRB 57804 Steuer-Nr.: 291-5805-1953 Ust-ID-Nr.: DE 814694228 Sitz: Köln -------------------------------------- From ghypes at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 03:46:37 2007 From: ghypes at gmail.com (gary hypes) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:46:37 -0800 Subject: Netgear W311T 108 MPBS wireless adaptor not recognized Message-ID: <303ccd70702041946q10b5799dmafd0b9c255baa636@mail.gmail.com> Running Ubuntu 6.02... I installed a Netgear wireless adaptor, and I can't see where the system recognizes it as all, not as eth0, eth1, ath0, anything. On the supported hardware list on wiki.ubuntu.com it says the system should recognize it instantly as ath0. On the Windows dual boot, the system recognizes the card without problem on the Windows XP side, so it doesn't appear to be a problem related to the installation of the card. Any suggestions? -- Gary Hypes "Everything I know I learned at http://www.coasttocoastam.com" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markwarner1954 at att.net Mon Feb 5 04:36:05 2007 From: markwarner1954 at att.net (Mark Warner) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:36:05 -0500 Subject: Boot from external USB drive? References: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: David Abrahams wrote: > > For testing Feisty, I'd like to install it on an external USB drive, > at least at first. Are there instructions out there describing how to > set up to be able to boot that installation, preferably with a grub > menu entry? It's simple, *if* your machine's bios can be set to boot to usb-hdd before hdd. Just install to the drive, and then tell the installer to install grub to the mbr of the *external* drive (the one you installed Feisty on), *not* hda. Dunno about Feisty, but the Dapper and Edgy Live CDs didn't give you this capability with the grub installation -- the Alternate CD was required. -- Mark Warner lose .inhibitions when replying From ynd at lntenc.com Mon Feb 5 05:03:15 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:33:15 +0530 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 05:10:17 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:10:17 +0100 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > -- it's such a useful program. "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it, not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was killed." https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 05:15:48 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:15:48 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 23:14 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > You need to give arguments to support what you're saying. You said > 'FAT > sucks'. Please tell us why . Please see my other post in the same thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-February/106084.html Further evidence can be easily found by googling for "FAT sucks" :) This i not surprising either, it is a very old FS, coming from the supreme sucking "OS", MS-DOS. There is a reason even Microsoft replaced it with NTFS From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 05:38:45 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:38:45 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <1170653925.5033.48.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 06:15 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > by googling for "FAT sucks" :) That is: '"FAT sucks" + filesystem', otherwise you just get results about obesity From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 06:04:30 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:04:30 +0800 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <77520bee0702031553t3145dc90lb957397ba4b0a931@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/4/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > On 03/02/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 06:02 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Hi, another question: > > > > > > I'd like to share files for read-write access between Windows XP and > > > Ubuntu 6.06. To be specific, I'd like to share two partitions: 1. a VM > > > (virtual machine for VMware); and, 2. files to be served up by apache > > > and smbd in that VM. > > > > > > What is the best disk format to use? FAT, NTFS, ext3? > > FAT: Reliable, proven to work. But not the greatest on-disk filesystem. > > Thanks for your thoughts: > > "not the greatest on-disk filesystem"? > > What do you mean with that particular phrase? I'm most concerned with > avoiding data corruption when switching between Windows XP and Ubuntu. FAT32 doesn't support LFS (Large File System) even on this day. If ever you would transfer a single file (e.g DVD Image) that is >=4.2GB to a FAT32 Filesystem, which is equivalent to 4,294,967,295 or 11111111111111111111111111111111 in binary (Count the one's), then you'll out of luck. Since FAT32 is a 32-bit filesystem, expect it to have a 32-bit limitation. Regards, Joel -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please tell us why . > > > Please see my other post in the same thread: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-February/106084.html > Further evidence can be easily found by googling for "FAT sucks" :) > > This i not surprising either, it is a very old FS, coming from the > supreme sucking "OS", MS-DOS. There is a reason even Microsoft replaced > it with NTFS In summary, it's mostly because it's not self-journaling and thus (relatively) easy to corrupt and fragment. However, I'll repeat that I haven't had any real *problems* Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 06:29:07 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 01:29:07 -0500 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 install wifi failing! In-Reply-To: <200702042228.31577.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> References: <200702042228.31577.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Message-ID: <45C6CEB3.3000406@gatech.edu> Ricardo C O Freitas wrote: > Hi There! > > I've just run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD on a PII-400Mhz and it was plain > easy..... The wireless card works on the LiveCD? > But on hard-drive installation (after booting) the Atheros wifi pci card is > not recognized. Can you find out the exact brand and model of the card? > I proceeded to hd install after all configs done and working. The configurations you make on the LiveCD won't be installed. > I keep getting an error like: SIS- something CARD error! Email back the exact error. > > How can I fix this thing? It's a wifi desktop. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's been around for a long time >> (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the >> Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things so >> would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like >> features of Windows NT/XP Pro). >> >> Eric. >> > > Ntfs is not supported (at least hardly) because Microsoft doesn't > release the NTFS specification, so we just try to guess the specification. Also, it's patented. That isn't exactly the reason for the technical mediocrity of Linux NTFS, but it's a disincentive to improve. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon Feb 5 06:58:05 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 1:58:05 -0500 Subject: Mounting NTFS into Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45C6D086.5020207@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702021848u528eb25fodfe5150f9a999f0@mail.gmail.com> <1170472774.8074.2.camel@ubuntu> <77520bee0702021924t14959eb9oa8ce2490c8a6d3f5@mail.gmail.com> <45C658E4.9090003@gmail.com> <45C6D086.5020207@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <47268-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1EC8616@[75.194.213.170]> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 01:36:54 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: >Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Eric Dunbar a écrit : >>> So why isn't NTFS supported natively? It's been around for a long time >>> (a decade? or more?) and it seems that most Linux users are from the >>> Windows world (especially from the "pro"/"hacker" side of things so >>> would be more inclined to be using the more robust server-like >>> features of Windows NT/XP Pro). >>> >>> Eric. >>> >> >> Ntfs is not supported (at least hardly) because Microsoft doesn't >> release the NTFS specification, so we just try to guess the specification. > >Also, it's patented. That isn't exactly the reason for the technical >mediocrity of Linux NTFS, but it's a disincentive to improve. > I'd add that NTFS is only relevant for Windows compatibility. Once you've left Windows behind, it's irrelevant. We're about 80% Linux/Mac now. I expect 2007 to be the year we complete the transition. Personally, I'm really not worried about NTFS. Scott K From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 07:25:24 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:25:24 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C6DBE4.8010904@gmail.com> Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : > On 2/4/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : >>> On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: >>>> Eric; >>>> >>>> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. >>>> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. >>> I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. >>> >> Please, tell us why you think FAT isn't reliable. > > It's patented, doesn't support transactions/atomic operations, uses an > antiquated and obsolete method to store metadata with very simple > redundancy (first FAT copy, second FAT copy), doesn't support > permissions./ACLs, maximum file size is limited to 4GB, its get > fragmented easily, tends to destroy the first few blocks of Flash/NAND > memories since the FAT table is stored at the very beginning of the > disk, etc. > > Other than that, FAT works pretty well for floppy disks, USB keys and > really small hard disks. For something, I would use a modern > filesystem. So none of what you've mentionned above is a problem for the OP who is looking for a Filesystem that Windows and Linux support well. Neither you've proven the more possible lost of datas. The question here was not what's the best Filesystem. Else, that thread would have become a Troll as even between advanced FS, we can't determine which is the best. I do agree with all the feature FAT is lacking but, to me, that's the best FS for the OP. From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 07:28:12 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:28:12 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702041632x352cbd5dv146bfa9db9e16b7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6293f10702040652l3481996fw9b57c48dabfdad86@mail.gmail.com> <45C65B84.5080005@gmail.com> <6f6293f10702041603u431ee734oa5603e53499e7f38@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041632x352cbd5dv146bfa9db9e16b7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C6DC8C.2030704@gmail.com> Eric Dunbar a écrit : > On 04/02/07, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: >> On 2/4/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >>> Felipe Alfaro Solana a écrit : >>>> On 2/4/07, Yagnesh Desai wrote: >>>>> Eric; >>>>> >>>>> The most reliable option is to use the FAT32 file format. >>>>> I am using it this way on my LAPTOP. >>>> I guess that you mean "the easiest". FAT is anything but reliable. >>>> >>> Please, tell us why you think FAT isn't reliable. >> It's patented, > > Ideological. Doesn't have a direct bearing on reliability (and, any > philosophical responses really belong on sounder). > >> doesn't support transactions/atomic operations, uses an >> antiquated and obsolete method to store metadata with very simple >> redundancy (first FAT copy, second FAT copy), doesn't support >> permissions./ACLs, maximum file size is limited to 4GB, its get >> fragmented easily, tends to destroy the first few blocks of Flash/NAND >> memories since the FAT table is stored at the very beginning of the >> disk, etc. >> >> Other than that, FAT works pretty well for floppy disks, USB keys and >> really small hard disks. For something, I would use a modern >> filesystem. > > The unfortunate thing (that I've managed to discover in my readings) > is that it's the only file system that's got robust ("native") support > by both Linux and Windows. NTFS, though superior to FAT is not fully > supported by Linux yet nor is ext3fs supported natively by Windows. > OUPS ! I should have read the whole thread :p . That's exactly what I said ;) From suman.rondla at cmcltd.com Mon Feb 5 07:23:34 2007 From: suman.rondla at cmcltd.com (sumankumar) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:53:34 +0530 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?mail_sending_problem?= Message-ID: Hi, please help me in providing some tips in step by step . here is the problem.... We installed bugzilla in Ubuntu and we are unable to send mail, we don't know how to solve this becoz for the first time we are working with Ubuntu. just provide steps with the file paths (please also provide example text in that file to be modified). -- With Best Regards ************** R.Suman Kumar DISCLAIMER “The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. 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Thank you" From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 07:43:21 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:43:21 +0100 Subject: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702041726u63e6e6a2ne11ed7448d2235cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702041726u63e6e6a2ne11ed7448d2235cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C6E019.4060204@gmail.com> Eric Dunbar a écrit : > On 04/02/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >>> Eric Dunbar wrote: >>> >>>> Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition >>>> to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as >>>> root, however). >>> How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it >>> out. >> Edit the preferences for your VM (assuming you're using Server). >> >> You can "Add" another hard drive -- you may have to go to the advanced >> tab when you're adding an HD. You can then choose whether to add a >> single partition or the whole drive to the VM. >> >> In the VM you then mount the drive as you normally would. >> >> Caveat: people have warned that mounting the drive is "experimental" >> but another individual reported that he'd been using it for a while >> without problems. YMMV. > > Oh, yeah, you have to be running vmware as root to do this. I don't > like that idea and I'm sure there's a 'better' way to do it but I > don't have the luxury of time (as you can no doubt tell I'm > procrastinating now ;-). > >> Anyway, I'm now learning what MBR and GRUB stand for (I come from the >> PPC world where you only ever have to deal with yaboot and it's >> generally impossible to render your machine unbootable). I managed to >> hose my MBR (I think) by telling my Windows XP CD to 'fixmbr' and now >> doing the "GRUB dance" with the live Cd to no avail (e.g. >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows). >> Will try a few more things with the Win XP CD before I try to see what >> installing Linux and/or Windows XP onto the blank partition will do... > > Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and > over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the > windows partition that I just installed. Now to figure out what "boot" > means (a * in fdisk) and now I can get my external Windows XP disk > back to being recognised by GRUB (I don't care whether I recover this > particular installation but I do want to know HOW to do so so that I > can avoid running into the same headaches later when the system is > active as the server). > I am not sure you've lost your windows installation. You just have to add an entry to grub config file (/boot/grub/menu.lst) after checking the ID of your windows partition. On my disk : ~$ sudo fdisk -l Disque /dev/hda: 81.9 Go, 81964302336 octets 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 9964 cylindres Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets Périphérique Amorce Début Fin Blocs Id Système /dev/hda1 * 1 1275 10241406 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 1276 9964 69794392+ f W95 Etendu (LBA) /dev/hda5 1276 1337 497983+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 1338 2283 7598713+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 2284 3032 6016311 83 Linux /dev/hda8 3033 9964 55681258+ b W95 FAT32 My windows is on /dev/hda1 so my grub config file has # Windows on /dev/hda1 title Microsoft Windows XP Professionnel root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 NOTE : In grub config file, the ID of disks start on 0 (for the first partition) The recommended use of grub is to create a /boot partition on which you'll install grub. You'll avoid a lot of headache if you do so. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Feb 5 08:02:41 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:02:41 -0800 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: Message-ID: <87abztqbfi.fsf@fjellstad.org> Yagnesh Desai writes: > BTW one of the reason M$ coming out with NTFS is that Linux started > seamlessly w/r to FAT32. Else they would have even continued throwing > FAT32 (SX@#%@) at M$ faithful client. Oh, please. According to Wikipedia, NTFS got released in July 1993 with Windows NT 3.1 (first version of NT)[1]. At that point, Linus hadn't even released 1.0 of the linux kernel[2]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 5 08:31:36 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:31:36 +0100 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com><37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net><77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com><20070203005838.10971abb@chisel><20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au><77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com><45C67128.20508@yandex.ru><77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <004901c74900$0f62cf70$0600000a@mcetest> apart from that what is wrong with it????? te he ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Vukelic" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:10 AM Subject: Re: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories >> -- it's such a useful program. > > "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I > was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software > so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it, > not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the > ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was > killed." > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Feb 5 09:12:22 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:12:22 -0600 Subject: IRMan remote control interface Message-ID: <45C6F4F6.1020203@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Many years ago, under Redhat, I bought this neat little box with a serial port to read IR remote controls. It had a really (seemingly over)complicated mechanism for menuing; I never quite got it right. Support for the device is still there, but now days, running Dapper, is anyone out there using this neat little tool, successfully? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFxvT26PLtRzZbdhYRAijOAJ0cG98XEqhl5L5dMbQIVAbrxWdylACeI7H1 +x8bfdtZeCNqnB1VdmwL3og= =3SF0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cummings.james at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 09:43:44 2007 From: cummings.james at gmail.com (James Cummings) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:43:44 +0000 Subject: Matrox dual-head graphics card not working in edgy In-Reply-To: <995b0fb00702021634s30c496fbufba88afff84992a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <39da2baa0701300618y41b16af5lfe63b403dfd0cdb9@mail.gmail.com> <995b0fb00702021634s30c496fbufba88afff84992a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39da2baa0702050143s32517120l668696f01460e9c4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/07, Gary Jarrel wrote: > I ran into a similar problem with my quad head card, try passing the > -ignoreABI switch to xorg when starting. Perhaps > http://www.nabble.com/gdm-and--ignoreABI-for-Xorg-in-Fedore-Core-6-t2520878.html > might be of some help as well! Hi Gary, Thanks! Ignoring ABI didn't work in xorg.org but did when added to gdm.conf! Back in multimonitor heaven. -James > > Cheers, > > -garyj > > On 1/31/07, James Cummings wrote: > > Hiya, > > > > A recent upgrade to edgy has killed my dual-head matrox card. By that > > I mean that it now only works with one monitor. > > > > I believe this is because there isn't a mga_hal driver available for xorg 7.1.1. > > > > the xorg log says: > > > > (II) Module mga_hal: vendor="Matrox Graphics Inc. - x86_32 - Release v4.4.0" > > compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 > > (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) > > (II) UnloadModule: "mga_hal" > > (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/mga_hal_drv.so > > > > So I assume this means I need to hold on until matrox release an > > updated driver? I just thought I'd ask in case I'm missing something. > > Once you have two monitors going back to one feels so constricting. > > > > -James > > -- > > James Cummings, Cummings dot James at GMail dot com > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- James Cummings, Cummings dot James at GMail dot com From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 03:16:47 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:16:47 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Eric Dunbar wrote: >> >> > >> > Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition >> > to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as >> > root, however). >> >> How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it >> out. > > Edit the preferences for your VM (assuming you're using Server). Well, no. Why would I be using Server when it's so simple to install Player... > More and more, I think that the idea of "avoiding" Samba is a mistake. Using Samba, you get to use Linux native filesystems for sharing your data. > hose my MBR (I think) by telling my Windows XP CD to 'fixmbr' and now > doing the "GRUB dance" with the live Cd to no avail (e.g. Bring up Live CD, open terminal: sudo mount /dev/... /mnt (where /dev/... is your Ubuntu partition) grub-install /dev/... --root-directory=/mnt/boot (or maybe that should only have been /mnt - I'm just doing it from memory. /dev/... in this case is the drive whose mbr you want to write). > I figured reinstalling GRUB as per > the above link would cause GRUB to pick up on the other (lonely) > WIndows XP and add it to the menu -- no such luck. No, a fresh Ubuntu install tries to add Windows OSes to the grub menu.lst, but if it isn't there now, you need to add it manually. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 11:30:45 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:30:45 -0500 Subject: Matrox dual-head graphics card not working in edgy In-Reply-To: <39da2baa0702050143s32517120l668696f01460e9c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <39da2baa0701300618y41b16af5lfe63b403dfd0cdb9@mail.gmail.com> <995b0fb00702021634s30c496fbufba88afff84992a7@mail.gmail.com> <39da2baa0702050143s32517120l668696f01460e9c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C71565.4010501@gatech.edu> James Cummings wrote: > On 2/3/07, Gary Jarrel wrote: >> I ran into a similar problem with my quad head card, try passing the >> -ignoreABI switch to xorg when starting. Perhaps >> http://www.nabble.com/gdm-and--ignoreABI-for-Xorg-in-Fedore-Core-6-t2520878.html >> might be of some help as well! > > Hi Gary, > > Thanks! Ignoring ABI didn't work in xorg.org but did when added to > gdm.conf! Back in multimonitor heaven. It might help with the autoconfiguration if you reported a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+filebug/). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bloss" wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu >>>>>> repositories? >>>>> Don't have a clue. :) >>>>> >>>>> Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose >>>>> it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. >>>> My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no >>>> longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief >>>> on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) >>> So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu? >>> >>>> I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some >>>> criticism of Webmin IIRC... >>> Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e. >>> non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a >>> central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)? >>> >> but the latest version of webmin is available on their website in a >> .deb package.. what's the big deal? Go and download that and install >> with gdebi, dpkg or whatever. > > No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I > honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of > .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point > I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly > relied on Synaptic ;-)). > > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > -- it's such a useful program. > > Anyway, I was merely picking people's brains to see what they thought. > You've made me curious about the FC tools so I'll check those out in > VMware when I get my WIndows-Ubuntu dual boot working and ready to go > for serving. > > I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the > whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current > server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. > > I now figure I should put a little more thought into this one ;-) > (Last time round, 2 GB for my System 9 BootX boot loader ( should've > been 50 MB), 25 GB for OS X 10.2 (for the hell of it), 8 GB for / and > 35 GB for /home... I eventually formatted the OS X partition and > symlinked it to a specific directory in /home because I ran out of > room on /home... probably could've done it more elegantly but it works > ;-). > I think that the Ubuntu maintainer couldn't be bothered to maintain an ubuntu package when the latest, cutting edge was always available on the webmin site. Also the Ubuntu people hated webmin with a vengeance, it has since gone. This is going a bit off-topic now with partitioning...... If you are setting up partitions for linux, you'd be crazy not to go with LVM, you can increase the size of logical volumes online, and shrink them offline. All the problems that you say you encountered are solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: 100MB primary partition for /boot 10GB primary partition for OS X all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and other distros too. From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 13:28:13 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:28:13 +0800 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? Message-ID: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> How can I change the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? Is it possible? -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 13:36:49 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:36:49 +0000 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > How can I change the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? Is it > possible? > Well, on the basis that hard-drives don't have volume controls, it's not possible. Do you perhaps mean a CD-Rom drive? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bloss" wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Is there a licencing issues that prevents it from living in the Ubuntu >>>>>> repositories? >>>>> Don't have a clue. :) >>>>> >>>>> Since it's mucking around with a wide variety of software, I suppose >>>>> it's entirely possible one of the modules or whatever is licensed oddly. >>>> My understanding is that the Debian and Ubuntu Webmin packages are no >>>> longer maintained. I seem to recall there was a collective sigh of relief >>>> on the developers' mailing list at the time ;-) >>> So does this mean that the source from Webmin is no longer relevant to Ubuntu? >>> >>>> I don't think there's a licensing issue - but there was, umm, some >>>> criticism of Webmin IIRC... >>> Is there an alternative solution for us mere mortals (i.e. >>> non-hardcore computer geeks) to controlling the system/servers from a >>> central user interface (especially, a web-browser accessible one)? >>> >> but the latest version of webmin is available on their website in a >> .deb package.. what's the big deal? Go and download that and install >> with gdebi, dpkg or whatever. > > No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I > honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of > .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point > I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly > relied on Synaptic ;-)). > > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > -- it's such a useful program. > > Anyway, I was merely picking people's brains to see what they thought. > You've made me curious about the FC tools so I'll check those out in > VMware when I get my WIndows-Ubuntu dual boot working and ready to go > for serving. > > I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the > whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current > server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. > > I now figure I should put a little more thought into this one ;-) > (Last time round, 2 GB for my System 9 BootX boot loader ( should've > been 50 MB), 25 GB for OS X 10.2 (for the hell of it), 8 GB for / and > 35 GB for /home... I eventually formatted the OS X partition and > symlinked it to a specific directory in /home because I ran out of > room on /home... probably could've done it more elegantly but it works > ;-). > I think that the Ubuntu maintainer couldn't be bothered to maintain an ubuntu package when the latest, cutting edge was always available on the webmin site. Also the Ubuntu people hated webmin with a vengeance, it has since gone. This is going a bit off-topic now with partitioning...... If you are setting up partitions for linux, you'd be crazy not to go with LVM, you can increase the size of logical volumes online, and shrink them offline. All the problems that you say you encountered are solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: 100MB primary partition for /boot 10GB primary partition for OS X all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and other distros too. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 13:38:33 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:38:33 -0500 Subject: LVM/ad hoc partition management and server partition design (was Re: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba)) Message-ID: <77520bee0702050538j707438a6hc92302fe5a14e010@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the > > whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current > > server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. > > > > I now figure I should put a little more thought into this one ;-) > > (Last time round, 2 GB for my System 9 BootX boot loader ( should've > > been 50 MB), 25 GB for OS X 10.2 (for the hell of it), 8 GB for / and > > 35 GB for /home... I eventually formatted the OS X partition and > > symlinked it to a specific directory in /home because I ran out of > > room on /home... probably could've done it more elegantly but it works > > ;-). > > If you are setting up partitions for linux, you'd be crazy not to go > with LVM, you can increase the size of logical volumes online, and > shrink them offline. All the problems that you say you encountered are > solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: > 100MB primary partition for /boot > 10GB primary partition for OS X > all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and > other distros too. Hmm. I recall reading about LVM but my kludge (symlink to the reformatted OS X partition) was working nicely so I wasn't worried about trying to get LVM working (plus, the server was working smoothly -- "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"). So, do I need to plan to install LVM now, or later? However, I am trying to build my own version of an "expansion proof" server that will avoid the LVM trap. The server will be running inside a VMware virtual machine with a dynamically re-sizable virtual hard disk file (10 GB enough?) and the files to be served and shared will be stored on two real partitions mapped to the virtual machine (e.g. one partition mapped to /var/www and another mapped to /home). This will allow me to back-up the VM by simply copying the VM's directory and also allow me to rearrange the real (physical) partitions without having to worry about server configuration. Also, with the server in a virtual machine, I can move it from one 32 bit i86 server to another by simply moving the virtual machine. Eric. From cb at lim.nl Mon Feb 5 13:50:30 2007 From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:50:30 +0100 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/5/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > Well, on the basis that hard-drives don't have volume controls, it's not > possible. Do you perhaps mean a CD-Rom drive? Maybe Zhihang means the * volume label*? from "man tune2fs": -L volume-label Set the volume label of the filesystem. Ext2 filesystem labels can be at most 16 characters long; if volume-label is longer than 16 characters, tune2fs will truncate it and print a warning. The volume label can be used by mount(8), fsck(8), and /etc/fstab(5) (and possibly others) by specifying LABEL=volume_label instead of a block special device name like /dev/hda5. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 13:57:55 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:57:55 +0000 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, Colin Brace wrote: > > On 2/5/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > > > Well, on the basis that hard-drives don't have volume controls, it's not > > possible. Do you perhaps mean a CD-Rom drive? > > Maybe Zhihang means the * volume label*? > > My bad - he undoubtedly did.... the "mobile" part made me think of removable media and I instantly then connected that with the volume slider and phones socket on the front of many CD and DVD drives. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 13:45:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:45:46 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I > honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of > .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point > I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly > relied on Synaptic ;-)). In which case you have been using .debs > > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > -- it's such a useful program. > > I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the > whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current > server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. 1 for Windows, 1 for Linux root, 1 for swap, remainder for LVM. I make the Windows & Linux partitions minimal, then put all the parts of the Linux filesystem that don't need to be on the root partition in the LVM (/usr, /var, /home & /tmp - /opt would be there if I had anything in it). The LVM is very flexible, so that you're not wedded to it. If I didn't need to keep the Windows partition just so that I could demonstrate to Dell that their hardware doesn't work even in the original config, I'd scrap that, too, and just run Windows in a VMWare disk image. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 13:54:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:54:44 -0400 Subject: dual boot - xp behaves strange References: <9becf9a00701162010q4371e946n307c36272d2038c0@mail.gmail.com> <20070119092241.GA3965@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20070120215027.GG3966@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45B72FBF.7020009@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <4ipj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > I managed to solve it. > > I just removed the "makeactive" line from the Windows XP boot section in > the Grub config file. > > It works now. > Whatever works! That's odd, since I though it _should_ be active, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 13:53:42 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:53:42 -0400 Subject: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) References: <77520bee0702041726u63e6e6a2ne11ed7448d2235cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6gpj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Eric Dunbar wrote: > Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and > over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the > windows partition that I just installed. No you didn't. You just need a "chainloader" entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst. There _should_ be one there, that's commented out, but if there isn't, put this in there (the "hd0,0" option to "root" means the first partition of the first hard drive - adjust if necessary). Nothing else is necessary, just reboot. # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/sda1 title Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 14:00:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:00:26 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > In summary, it's mostly because it's not self-journaling and thus > (relatively) easy to corrupt and fragment. However, I'll repeat that I > haven't had any real *problems* True. Its drawbacks are also its advantages. It's simple. I wouldn't want to do real work on it, and since my only use for Windows is Quicken , the only data I want in Windows I definitely _don't_ want on FAT, but I have used FAT partitions for moving data around. -- derek From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 14:22:56 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:22:56 +0800 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Colin. Sorry for my bad expression. The *mobile hard disk* means *removable hard disk*. I can't understand why the volume lable of my *removeable hard disk* is *};?????#end * under the */medai* directory. I don't know can you understand me? On 2/5/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > > On 05/02/07, Colin Brace wrote: > > > > On 2/5/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > > > > > Well, on the basis that hard-drives don't have volume controls, it's > > not > > > possible. Do you perhaps mean a CD-Rom drive? > > > > Maybe Zhihang means the * volume label*? > > > > > My bad - he undoubtedly did.... the "mobile" part made me think of > removable media and I instantly then connected that with the volume slider > and phones socket on the front of many CD and DVD drives. > > > > -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the problems that you say you encountered are > solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: > 100MB primary partition for /boot > 10GB primary partition for OS X > all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and > other distros too. Do you do that? I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of my root partition in the LVM. I'm not really sure what _could_ happen, but I worry that if the device starts to fail there may be nothing at all recoverable if I can't get into the LVM and mount the root. So I put / on a physical partition but everything else in the LVM. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 14:25:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:25:14 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45C73E4A.4060600@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> In summary, it's mostly because it's not self-journaling and thus >> (relatively) easy to corrupt and fragment. However, I'll repeat that I >> haven't had any real *problems* > > True. Its drawbacks are also its advantages. It's simple. I wouldn't want > to do real work on it, and since my only use for Windows is Quicken , the > only data I want in Windows I definitely _don't_ want on FAT, but I have > used FAT partitions for moving data around. I still think that might be a bit over-cautious. If you're not running a server, and keep regular backups, there's really nothing worth worrying about. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can assure, you guys that, > its not the case here. Even doing, small chunks transfer session > freezes. > > And of course, its not inactivity timeout, it happens, when i would be > in middle of entering some command. > > Also, interesting fact is, many of my collegues within same intranet > complained about their putty throwing "garbled network data", but > since I had zonealarm on, I didn't face any problems in > Windows.(zonealarm seems to be ordering bytes or something like that > in Windows and for me, I never get session hangs in Windows when using > putty) > > I am literally frustrated here and would love any solution/points.(I > hate booting into Windows, for working on remote machines) > > Also I am running firestarter on my machine. I also tried setting up > MTU = 576 using ifconfig eth0 mtu 576, but doesn't seem to have any > impact. > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ----------------- > inet addr:10.0.0.187 Bcast:10.10.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::215:f2ff:fe91:dc77/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:46986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:19000 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:21881243 (20.8 MiB) TX bytes:2177529 (2.0 MiB) > Interrupt:217 Base address:0x2000 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) TX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) > > Linux xaos 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Anyone? -- gnufied ----------- There was only one Road; that it was like a great river: its springs were at every doorstep, and every path was its tributary. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 14:42:02 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:42:02 -0500 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C7423A.4040102@gatech.edu> hemant wrote: > On 2/3/07, hemant wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When I connect to remote machines from my local dapper workstation, >> after sometime my SSH session hangs without any apparent reason. >> >> I have literally searched internet for hours for a solution and people >> seem to have following reasons for this: >> >> - Poor DNS >> - Packet fragmentation and firewall problem, and bulk text freezes the session >> - Inactivity timeout. >> >> Although I won't call my DNS to be solid, but when I connect to the >> same machines using putty from Windows(which uses zonealarm firewall), >> ssh sessions work fine and doesn't hang as they hang in Linux. >> >> Many people had ssh session hangs, when the command entered in remote >> session transferred large amount of text. I can assure, you guys that, >> its not the case here. Even doing, small chunks transfer session >> freezes. >> >> And of course, its not inactivity timeout, it happens, when i would be >> in middle of entering some command. >> >> Also, interesting fact is, many of my collegues within same intranet >> complained about their putty throwing "garbled network data", but >> since I had zonealarm on, I didn't face any problems in >> Windows.(zonealarm seems to be ordering bytes or something like that >> in Windows and for me, I never get session hangs in Windows when using >> putty) >> >> I am literally frustrated here and would love any solution/points.(I >> hate booting into Windows, for working on remote machines) >> >> Also I am running firestarter on my machine. I also tried setting up >> MTU = 576 using ifconfig eth0 mtu 576, but doesn't seem to have any >> impact. >> >> >> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ----------------- >> inet addr:10.0.0.187 Bcast:10.10.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 >> inet6 addr: fe80::215:f2ff:fe91:dc77/64 Scope:Link >> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 >> RX packets:46986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >> TX packets:19000 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 >> RX bytes:21881243 (20.8 MiB) TX bytes:2177529 (2.0 MiB) >> Interrupt:217 Base address:0x2000 >> >> lo Link encap:Local Loopback >> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 >> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host >> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 >> RX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >> TX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 >> RX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) TX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) >> >> Linux xaos 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux > > Anyone? > > Hmm, why don't you try using SSH after booting the live CD. That should tell you whether any of your configuration (e.g. firestarter, which I've never heard of) messed things up. Normally, I think the live CD includes SSH. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From norman at littletank.org Mon Feb 5 14:44:22 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:44:22 +0000 Subject: XSane device change information In-Reply-To: <45C2A754.8020101@austin.rr.com> References: <45C2A754.8020101@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1170686662.21975.1.camel@localhost> > I recently changed my all in one HP printer from one model to another. > How do I communicate that to XSane? The configuration file still shows > the old printer (or it did until I deleted the directory). How do I get > it to identify the new device? I tried reinstalling the software > packages but that did not help. XSane reports that there is no scanner > device available. > > Old model was a PSC1610; new one is a C3180. The printer driver is the > same (hpijs) and the printer works properly. Has this been sorted out yet? If not could you say how the printer is connected to the computer. Norman From carribeiro at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 14:46:42 2007 From: carribeiro at gmail.com (Carlos Ribeiro) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:46:42 -0200 Subject: Disable Route Optimization in Linux In-Reply-To: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> References: <45C4782D.6010307@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <864d37090702050646w6730d933u6234eb04c0a089f8@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/07, Bruce wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm working toward building up a couple of test fixtures that require me > to generate multiple channels of Ethernet traffic. I have some Perl > code that will allow me to send and receive traffic using specified > local and peer ports. I seem to have only one problem that is > preventing me from getting started. Linux is optimizing all my traffic > to go through the default port. > > To be more specific, let's assume I have a 8 port switch to be tested. > Assume I have two Linux boxes with a quad NIC card in each. Assume the > 8 ports from the two quad NIC cards all get plugged into the switch. To > test each switch port I need to be able to generate traffic from all 8 > ports of the two quad NIC cards. Linux optimizes my routes and sends > all traffic through the default eth port, even when I specify another port. > > Is there any way to turn off the router in Linux or at least override it > with my desired routes? I have tried many combinations of "route add", > "route del", "ip route add x.x.x.x via y.y.y.y. So far I am striking > out. Any help would be appreciated. > > I am using Ubuntu 6.10 desktop on an Intel architecture box. The problem is that you are trying to generate traffic at the layer 3 level, which will NOT work. Linux is just doing its job. You have two options: use the driver directly (i know it's possible, I just don't know how to do it)... What you want to do is called "port aggregation" in networking jargon. It's also known as "EtherChannel" (that's the Cisco name for it), or "bonding", and it was standardized as IEEE 802.3ad. Using an aggregated link you can balance traffic over all active links (up to eight max). There is support for EtherChannel in the Linux Kernel since 2.4: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/marcelo/linux-2.4/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt It will be probably necessary for you to recompile your kernel, install extra modules, etc - but that's the way to go IMHO. -- Carlos Ribeiro Consultoria em Projetos blog: http://rascunhosrotos.blogspot.com blog: http://pythonnotes.blogspot.com mail: carribeiro at gmail.com mail: carribeiro at yahoo.com From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 5 14:57:58 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:57:58 +0000 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <45C72754.9010409@yandex.ru> <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <45C745F6.7030408@yandex.ru> Derek Broughton wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> This is going a bit off-topic now with partitioning...... >> If you are setting up partitions for linux, you'd be crazy not to go >> with LVM, you can increase the size of logical volumes online, and >> shrink them offline. All the problems that you say you encountered are >> solved by LVM. Obviously LVM won't play nice with OS X but you can do: >> 100MB primary partition for /boot >> 10GB primary partition for OS X >> all the rest as a LVM, then you can install ubuntu in to the LVM and >> other distros too. > > Do you do that? I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of my root partition > in the LVM. I'm not really sure what _could_ happen, but I worry that if > the device starts to fail there may be nothing at all recoverable if I > can't get into the LVM and mount the root. So I put / on a physical > partition but everything else in the LVM. Sure, I put everything I can into LVM. If you need to access it you can boot up from a knoppix cd and modprobe dm-mod then you can fiddle around with the data, as easily as if it's on a standard partition. Also I should say that if you are concerned about failing devices, then using standard paritions won't protect you one iota. Best off coming up with a better backup strategy. Besides I find that reinstalling a system completely only takes a few hours, just make sure that my user data is backed up, because that's taken literally years to acquire, and no amount of time/money could bring it back. Personally I have a script in cron.hourly that runs rsync, copying from my /home to a USB hard drive. In the eventuality of a lightening strike it's game over, but there's not much I can do against that considering the amount of time and money I am prepared to put in (nothing). But it does a fantastic job of protecting against device failure. From jshep at stoneyburn.ca Mon Feb 5 14:55:19 2007 From: jshep at stoneyburn.ca (Jim Sheppard) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:55:19 -0500 Subject: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 Message-ID: <001101c74935$b2203ce0$a443fea9@stbfm01> I have been trying unsuccessfully for several weeks to get Ubuntu 6.10 up and running. The main stumbling block has been establishing a dial up connection to the outside world. Broadband is not an option here. I have finally found a modem, US Robotics Performance Pro 56K (5610C) that works with Ubuntu 6.10. The modem is recognised by the OS and dials out. Handshaking with the host begins but the connection cannot be authenticated. Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: OK Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: -- got it Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: send (ATDTW6134824010^M) Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: timeout set to 75 seconds Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: expect (CONNECT) Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: ^M Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: AT&FH0L1^M^M Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: OK^M Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: ATDTW6134824010^M^M Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: CONNECT Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: -- got it Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Serial connection established. Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2 Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Remote message: ^M^JAccess denied^M^J Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connection terminated. Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Terminating on signal 15 Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Exit. Can anyone provide some assistance or advice on how I can get connected? Thanks Jim Kemptville, ON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wouldn't >> want to do real work on it, and since my only use for Windows is Quicken >> , the only data I want in Windows I definitely _don't_ want on FAT, but I >> have used FAT partitions for moving data around. > > I still think that might be a bit over-cautious. If you're not running > a server, and keep regular backups, there's really nothing worth > worrying about. For my bookkeeping? I don't think so. I don't want those files on an unsecured filesystem. My whole windows partition is FAT32, so that I can easily play with it from the Linux system, but I don't keep any sensitive data there - either sensitive in the sense that I don't want anyone else seeing it, or just in the sense that I can't stand to lose it. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 15:26:28 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:26:28 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <9rtj94-ka9.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> <45C73E4A.4060600@gatech.edu> <9rtj94-ka9.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <45C74CA4.2020304@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> >>>> In summary, it's mostly because it's not self-journaling and thus >>>> (relatively) easy to corrupt and fragment. However, I'll repeat that I >>>> haven't had any real *problems* >>> True. Its drawbacks are also its advantages. It's simple. I wouldn't >>> want to do real work on it, and since my only use for Windows is Quicken >>> , the only data I want in Windows I definitely _don't_ want on FAT, but I >>> have used FAT partitions for moving data around. >> I still think that might be a bit over-cautious. If you're not running >> a server, and keep regular backups, there's really nothing worth >> worrying about. > > For my bookkeeping? I don't think so. I don't want those files on an > unsecured filesystem. My whole windows partition is FAT32, so that I can > easily play with it from the Linux system, but I don't keep any sensitive > data there - either sensitive in the sense that I don't want anyone else > seeing it, or just in the sense that I can't stand to lose it. Relying on the filesystem for encryption is a bad idea, IMHO. I would use a dedicated solution for that. 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From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 5 15:37:20 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:37:20 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 06:10 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > > -- it's such a useful program. > > "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I > was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software > so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it, > not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the > ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was killed." > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html > > So, since webmin is obviously _not_ the developers/maintainers choice, what is/are the alternative(s) ? One alternative that I tried was ISPConfig (under Breezxy). ISPConfig is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things). So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest? From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 15:43:01 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:43:01 +0000 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702050743r54d589d3k8435fdb6da19945b@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Colin. Sorry for my bad expression. The > *mobile hard disk* means *removable hard disk*. I can't understand why the > volume lable of my *removeable hard disk* is *};?????#end * under the > */medai* directory. > I don't know can you understand me? > > I understand you now! What format is this removable drive in? EXT2/3 or is it FAT/NTFS? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cb at lim.nl Mon Feb 5 15:50:19 2007 From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:50:19 +0100 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/5/07, zhihang wang wrote: > Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Colin. Sorry for my bad expression. The *mobile > hard disk* means *removable hard disk*. I can't understand why the volume > lable of my *removeable hard disk* is *};?????#end * under the */medai* > directory. I don't know why that is happening, but this behavior can be controlled by UDEV. You can modify this by creating a UDEV rule. See this thread for exact instructions on how to this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2562049 HTH -- Colin Brace Amsterdam From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon Feb 5 16:10:49 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:10:49 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <47376-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED07AB@[75.194.213.170]> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:37:20 -0500 John Dangler wrote: >On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 06:10 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories >> > -- it's such a useful program. >> >> "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I >> was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software >> so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it, >> not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the >> ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was killed." >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html >> >> >So, since webmin is obviously _not_ the developers/maintainers choice, >what is/are the alternative(s) ? >One alternative that I tried was ISPConfig (under Breezxy). ISPConfig >is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on >Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things). > >So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest? The standard answer to this question on the postfix-users is don't. These are complex systems and by using such tools you will not develop a sufficiently deep understanding of how they work and how to operate them. I'm inclined to agree. Scott K From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 5 16:22:51 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:22:51 +0000 Subject: Video Card Config In-Reply-To: <45C74F61.30402@sympatico.ca> References: <45C74F61.30402@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <45C759DB.6080702@yandex.ru> John M. Moniz wrote: > I changed the video card on a Ubuntu box and now the X server won't come > up. Is there a utility that will facilitate a configuration change to > the graphics card set up? Something that will get Ubuntu to recognize > the new card as it does at installation? > > Through much searching I found 'Xorg -configuration' (I think that's it) > which has to be run at level 0, mut it didn't do the trick. This card is > definitely a compatible linux card as it came from a working Mandriva box. > > Thanks, > > John. > sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon Feb 5 16:18:38 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:18:38 -0500 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@[75.194.213.170]> On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:06:30 +0530 hemant wrote: >On 2/3/07, hemant wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When I connect to remote machines from my local dapper workstation, >> after sometime my SSH session hangs without any apparent reason. >> >> I have literally searched internet for hours for a solution and people >> seem to have following reasons for this: >> >> - Poor DNS >> - Packet fragmentation and firewall problem, and bulk text freezes the session >> - Inactivity timeout. >> >> Although I won't call my DNS to be solid, but when I connect to the >> same machines using putty from Windows(which uses zonealarm firewall), >> ssh sessions work fine and doesn't hang as they hang in Linux. Take some data (preferably from the boxes on both ends of the connection) using Ethereal/Wireshark or tcpdump. If you can get the data you should be able to see what is holding things up. Scott K From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 5 16:26:21 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:26:21 +0000 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45C75AAD.9040706@yandex.ru> John Dangler wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 06:10 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: >>> What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories >>> -- it's such a useful program. >> "I didn't say that tools didn't exist; I said they utterly sucked. And I >> was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of software >> so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do with it, >> not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the >> ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was killed." >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html >> >> > So, since webmin is obviously _not_ the developers/maintainers choice, > what is/are the alternative(s) ? > One alternative that I tried was ISPConfig (under Breezxy). ISPConfig > is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on > Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things). > > So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest? > > ssh, bit of savvy, and copious usage of man, I guess. From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 16:36:23 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:36:23 +0800 Subject: How to change or control the volume of the mobile hard disk on Ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: References: <212696550702050528q5dfe2fet96625954a8cb1132@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050536s5ad36e30v609887a9496ba562@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702050557h10af242dh47a9db18d1aa11ea@mail.gmail.com> <212696550702050622i4872acbwba32689e05ae7076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <212696550702050836r379e3149q58903924e3009e78@mail.gmail.com> Great! Thank you very much for your warmly help, Colin and Steve. My removable drive format is FAT32. Colin's link perhaps states the same problem. I will read it carefully and try to solve the problem on my pc. If I have question, I will ask you again. ;-) Thank you very much, Steve and Colin :) On 2/5/07, Colin Brace wrote: > > On 2/5/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > > Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Colin. Sorry for my bad expression. The > *mobile > > hard disk* means *removable hard disk*. I can't understand why the > volume > > lable of my *removeable hard disk* is *};?????#end * under the */medai* > > directory. > > I don't know why that is happening, but this behavior can be > controlled by UDEV. You can modify this by creating a UDEV rule. See > this thread for exact instructions on how to this: > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2562049 > > HTH > > -- > Colin Brace > Amsterdam > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ISPConfig > >is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on > >Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things). > > > >So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest? > > The standard answer to this question on the postfix-users is don't. These > are complex systems and by using such tools you will not develop a > sufficiently deep understanding of how they work and how to operate them. > > I'm inclined to agree. While I agree that learning how to setup apache, dns, mail, mysql, iptables, etc is the best way to proceed, the OP had asked about using webmin and why it wasn't in the repo's. The reply was a resounding - _because it sucks_. While quite a subjective answer, it would be understandable that developers/maintainers would see much more under tht hood of an app than a user would, and would (hopefully) have a handful of quantifiable reasons for such a conclusion. But, to leave it at that, simply tells the entire community - _there are no useful tools which do this, and we don't intend to build or support one_ (which is probably not a good summary to infer). Since I have tried a couple of these tools in the past (albeit on past versions of Ubuntu) and found them to be extremely easy to install, but difficult at best in their expected performance, I have learned to do most of the server admin work by hand from the command line. Admittedly, I still have a long way to go, but would really rather concentrate on development (among other things), and have a convenient tool (or set of tools) to handle the housekeeping of the server itself. So, if anyone on the list (including developers/maintainers) knows of any tools like this (or if there are any in the works), I (and I'm sure the OP) would like to hear about them. Here's my .02 for what I have tried, and what I am doing at present ISPConfig - mentioned above... LAMPP was ok, but I got the feeling that it kept everything in its own world, which I wasn't really enamored with, and was also a nightmare to remove (and didn't leave behind any of my configurations) QmailAdmin - Strange to get this working, and getting it in the right directory so that it's protected and working was something that eluded me. VpopAdmin - Never got this working ---- I'm using these at present - Apache - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to administer apache well IPTables - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to administer rulesets. DNS - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to set up/maintain domains. mySQL - phpmyadmin works fine for this, although it doesn't appear to be all that secure (for my development efforts, it works ok). vPop - command line via ssh only - couldn't get vpopadmin to work at all. qmail - command line via ssh only - I can get qmailadmin to work sporadically, but it never seems to be in the right directory for me to get it to work _every_ time... spamassassin, qmail-filter, clam - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to handle these. From ghypes at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 17:10:59 2007 From: ghypes at gmail.com (gary hypes) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:10:59 -0800 Subject: Amendment re: Netgear W311T 108 MPBS wireless adaptor not recognized Message-ID: <303ccd70702050910m1720daa4k94c9b77fd7473449@mail.gmail.com> I believe the correct model number is WG311T, not W311T. -- Gary Hypes "Everything I know I learned at http://www.coasttocoastam.com" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markwarner1954 at att.net Mon Feb 5 17:20:23 2007 From: markwarner1954 at att.net (Mark Warner) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:20:23 -0500 Subject: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 References: <001101c74935$b2203ce0$a443fea9@stbfm01> Message-ID: "Jim Sheppard" wrote Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Serial connection established. Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2 Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Remote message: ^M^JAccess denied^M^J Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connection terminated. Looks to me like you've not provided the dialer with the correct username and/or password. -- Mark Warner lose .inhibitions when replying From p.echols at comcast.net Mon Feb 5 17:48:10 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:48:10 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <20070202051639.6c65f346@chisel> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> <20070202051639.6c65f346@chisel> Message-ID: <45C76DDA.6090302@comcast.net> On 02/02/2007 02:16 AM, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > >> Is there a T'bird plugin? I don't recall seeing one. What I'd done >> in windows is just copy the email to clipboard,sign that, then paste >> back. same for decrypt. It's all I really need to do. >> > > You mean a GnuPG plugin for Thunderbird? > > Sure there's one... > > http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > As far as your question about which files to back up before installing > Seahorse, you might as well grab everything in your ~/.gnupg directory, > your ~/.bashrc, and your ~/.bash_profile. I *think* that should cover > it, and I'm not 100% sure you really need both the .bash* files but if I > recall correctly Seahorse used one or the other to automatically > create a gpg-agent socket when you log in. Which includes every time > you open a terminal, too. :( > > You shouldn't be too buggered up anyway, it's not like gpg won't work or > anything, and if you want to quit using the agent you comment out the > "use-agent" entry in gpg.conf. It's stopping all the extra sockets > (really just files) being created and housekeeping that's a pain. > Ok, Thanks for all that. As s linux newbie, I sure have a lot to learn. > And no, I can't think of any *compelling* reason to switch to > Claws-Mail. It will make you smarter and better looking, but if you're > like me that's not really an issue. > > Not an issue for me either, I really am stunning (in a Lyle Lovett's ugly brother kind of way) ;-) Thanks again From p.echols at comcast.net Mon Feb 5 17:50:14 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:50:14 -0800 Subject: GnuPG front ends In-Reply-To: <45C30966.3030000@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45C18EC8.70004@comcast.net> <20070201082459.b285c0ab.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <45C2FDFA.8030102@comcast.net> <45C2FF3F.90308@manchester.ac.uk> <45C302C1.8040909@nnister.org.uk> <45C30966.3030000@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <45C76E56.1000902@comcast.net> On 02/02/2007 01:50 AM, Tony Arnold wrote: > Chris, > > Chris Bannister wrote: > >> Tony Arnold wrote: >> >> >>> Have a look at the enigmail plugin (mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail) for >>> T'bird. It doesn't really do key management, but it does what you want >>> above. >>> >> It will, create, revoke, sign, search key servers, and change >> passphrases on pgp keys... not sure there are many day to day tasks it >> isn't capable of. Unless I've missed something obvious? >> > > So it will! I've never thought to look that closely at it, just used it > for signing, encrypting and decrypting! I've learnt something which can > only be a good thing! > > Regards, > Tony. > Thanks guys. Sounds like enigmail might be just the ticket. Since I've been offline for a while, I have not tried anything yet. But I appreciate the thoughts. Patton From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 17:59:31 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:59:31 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1170698371.5033.56.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 01:25 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > easy to corrupt and fragment. Another thing: due to the file allocation table being all shoved into the first bytes it tends to ruin flash memory (which has a limited number of write cycles) faster than needed > However, I'll repeat that I > haven't had any real *problems* I can see that, but one nevertheless should not write "FAT is reliable" without qualifying the statement. Because it has none of the features that make an FS "reliable" From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 18:02:38 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:02:38 +0100 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <004901c74900$0f62cf70$0600000a@mcetest> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <004901c74900$0f62cf70$0600000a@mcetest> Message-ID: <1170698558.5033.58.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:31 +0100, Trevor Nye wrote: > apart from that what is wrong with it????? Well I don't know. I just remembered that the whole discussion already happened on the list months ago. Did the original thread I linked to not give more info? From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 18:14:04 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:14:04 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <1170698371.5033.56.camel@chronic> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> <1170698371.5033.56.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45C773EC.2050803@gatech.edu> Mario Vukelic wrote: > I can see that, but one nevertheless should not write "FAT is reliable" > without qualifying the statement. Because it has none of the features > that make an FS "reliable" I never said it was reliable. 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Thanks a lot, Ray From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 18:15:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:15:29 -0500 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@[75.194.213.170]> References: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@[75.194.213.170]> Message-ID: <45C77441.1070500@gatech.edu> Scott Kitterman wrote: > Take some data (preferably from the boxes on both ends of the connection) > using Ethereal/Wireshark or tcpdump. If you can get the data you should be > able to see what is holding things up. > > Scott K > Sure, if you want to manually decrypt it. Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 5 18:29:05 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:29:05 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45C773EC.2050803@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> <1170698371.5033.56.camel@chronic> <45C773EC.2050803@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1170700146.5033.61.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 13:14 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > I never said it was reliable. You didn't, but my first post in this thread was a reply to someone saying "FAT" is reliable. I denied that, this was challenged, and it went from there :) From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:21:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:21:46 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <45C72754.9010409@yandex.ru> <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45C745F6.7030408@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of my root partition >> in the LVM. I'm not really sure what _could_ happen, but I worry that if >> the device starts to fail there may be nothing at all recoverable if I >> can't get into the LVM and mount the root. So I put / on a physical >> partition but everything else in the LVM. > > > Sure, I put everything I can into LVM. If you need to access it you can > boot up from a knoppix cd and modprobe dm-mod then you can fiddle around > with the data, as easily as if it's on a standard partition. I should see if that's possible from the Ubuntu CD. I rather doubt it, as the Live CD doesn't allow for LVM partitioning during the install. > Also I > should say that if you are concerned about failing devices, then using > standard paritions won't protect you one iota. Best off coming up with a > better backup strategy. Murphy's law will tell you that no matter how good your backup strategy, there's going to be something important on the drive that didn't yet get backed up; and experience tells me that laptop drives _always_ fail. Every single laptop I have owned (four so far) has had to have a drive replaced. It could be me (I'm definitely hard on the hardware); it could be bad choices of hardware; but it always happens. > Besides I find that reinstalling a system completely only takes a few > hours, just make sure that my user data is backed up, because that's > taken literally years to acquire, and no amount of time/money could > bring it back. Yes it does just take a few hours - it's the recent work that is the problem. Now, that's not really a problem for me with respect to the root partition anyway, because there's no user modified data on that partition except what's in /etc - and even that is largely installed from packages or debconf, but I still have qualms about having / on lvm. > > Personally I have a script in cron.hourly that runs rsync, copying from > my /home to a USB hard drive. Interesting. I wouldn't want to copy all of /home/$USER - that's got GBs of essentially static content, too, but everything that's routinely modified is going to be under ~/Desktop/ Thanks. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 18:54:23 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:54:23 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <45C72754.9010409@yandex.ru> <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45C745F6.7030408@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45C77D5F.1010205@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > > Yes it does just take a few hours - it's the recent work that is the > problem. Now, that's not really a problem for me with respect to the root > partition anyway, because there's no user modified data on that partition > except what's in /etc - and even that is largely installed from packages or > debconf, but I still have qualms about having / on lvm. >> Personally I have a script in cron.hourly that runs rsync, copying from >> my /home to a USB hard drive. > > Interesting. I wouldn't want to copy all of /home/$USER - that's got GBs of > essentially static content, too, but everything that's routinely modified > is going to be under ~/Desktop/ The rsync algorithm should only copy changed files. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:48:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:48:39 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> <45C73E4A.4060600@gatech.edu> <9rtj94-ka9.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45C74CA4.2020304@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <7pak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>>> >>>>> In summary, it's mostly because it's not self-journaling and thus >>>>> (relatively) easy to corrupt and fragment. However, I'll repeat that >>>>> I haven't had any real *problems* >>>> True. Its drawbacks are also its advantages. It's simple. I wouldn't >>>> want to do real work on it, and since my only use for Windows is >>>> Quicken , the only data I want in Windows I definitely _don't_ want on >>>> FAT, but I have used FAT partitions for moving data around. >>> I still think that might be a bit over-cautious. If you're not running >>> a server, and keep regular backups, there's really nothing worth >>> worrying about. >> >> For my bookkeeping? I don't think so. I don't want those files on an >> unsecured filesystem. My whole windows partition is FAT32, so that I can >> easily play with it from the Linux system, but I don't keep any sensitive >> data there - either sensitive in the sense that I don't want anyone else >> seeing it, or just in the sense that I can't stand to lose it. > > Relying on the filesystem for encryption is a bad idea, IMHO. I would > use a dedicated solution for that. > What's that got to do with what I said? If I keep the data on the linux filesystem, then I have numerous options for security and encryption. If I keep it on a FAT filesystem, I don't. -- derek From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon Feb 5 19:09:50 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:09:50 -0500 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: <45C77441.1070500@gatech.edu> References: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@[75.194.213.170]> <45C77441.1070500@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702051409.50316.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Monday 05 February 2007 13:15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Take some data (preferably from the boxes on both ends of the connection) > > using Ethereal/Wireshark or tcpdump. If you can get the data you should > > be able to see what is holding things up. > > > > Scott K > > Sure, if you want to manually decrypt it. > Well I wasn't thinking of inspecting the content of the SSH packets. I was thinking if there is a firewall or other connectivity problem or if DNS requests weren't being returned, etc. You are correct that you can't see the contents of the packets this way. Scott K From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:51:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:51:20 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <1170534482.5818.3.camel@localhost> <1170558142.5033.22.camel@chronic> <45C65AE1.6040400@gmail.com> <1170652548.5033.47.camel@chronic> <45C6CDC7.4070904@gatech.edu> <1170698371.5033.56.camel@chronic> <45C773EC.2050803@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <9uak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Mario Vukelic wrote: >> I can see that, but one nevertheless should not write "FAT is reliable" >> without qualifying the statement. Because it has none of the features >> that make an FS "reliable" > > I never said it was reliable. > No, Duncan did, and that's what the thread's been developing from. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:57:45 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:57:45 -0400 Subject: manual partition table References: Message-ID: <9abk94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Erik Schmidt wrote: > is it possible to use the manual partition table on teh ubuntu > installer to reintegrate two partitions? Do you just want to take, e.g., partitions 2 & 3, turn them into a single partition 2 and install a new filesystem on it? Then, yes. If you mean you want to combine two partitions into a single one with all the data from both partitions, not easily! The simplest way is to back up both filesystems, delete both partitions, create the new partition, put a new filesystem on it and copy back the backups. The harder way is to backup both partitions, delete partition 3, grow partition 2 to fill the space (I know this can be done, I don't know if the partitioner on the Ubuntu installer is capable), grow the _filesystem_ to fill the partition, and then copy the files from partition 3 onto it - most of which you can't do from inside the installer. -- derek From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 19:16:47 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:16:47 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702051116r2c02582fg14261fcb2d01163d@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > No problem at all. I've built enough things from scratch but I > > honestly don't think I've ever installed from a .deb before... lots of > > .rpms into YellowDog but never .debs into Ubuntu (up to this point > > I've never tried to do anything "real" with Ubuntu... I've mostly > > relied on Synaptic ;-)). > > In which case you have been using .debs Ok ;-P. I've never actually gone to the effort of downloading one and installing it "manually" -- it's always been care of Synaptic, aptitude or apt-get. > > What surprises me is that WebMin is not in the official repositories > > -- it's such a useful program. > > > > I haven't decided on my partitioning scheme given that I spent the > > whole of 2 seconds deciding upon a partitioning scheme with my current > > server that has haunted me for MORE THAN TWO years. > > 1 for Windows, 1 for Linux root, 1 for swap, remainder for LVM. 0 for Windows. The Windows install will exist independently on a separate install. I want to keep things as simple as possible -- one drive = one OS. However, someone suggested /boot as its own partition. Can this help me avoid the MBR/Windows boot loader/GRUB mess that I've created on my machine at the moment? (I refuse to go ahead and reformat everything until I manage to recover one of the two Windows installs that currently exist (one on each drive) -- I want to know that it's possible before I plunge feet first into the icy waters of the Windows world... PS Windows really, REALLY sucks (and, I just thought it was the interface and application design philosophy that sucked)). > I make the Windows & Linux partitions minimal, then put all the parts of the > Linux filesystem that don't need to be on the root partition in the LVM > (/usr, /var, /home & /tmp - /opt would be there if I had anything in it). > The LVM is very flexible, so that you're not wedded to it. > > If I didn't need to keep the Windows partition just so that I could > demonstrate to Dell that their hardware doesn't work even in the original > config, I'd scrap that, too, and just run Windows in a VMWare disk image. Hmm. Time to read up on LVM when I have time -- well, ok, so I procrastinated for a few minutes -- I don't think the LVM is a viable solution for me. I want to keep the server running in a virtual machine (VMware) and I suspect that using LVMs will not work very nicely with the virtual machine for sharing purposes (unless I can install the LVM software into the VM and have it manage various partitions/drives inside the VM). Eric. From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:46:55 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:46:55 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> <47376-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED07AB@[75.194.213.170]> <1170694262.14202.24.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <0mak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> John Dangler wrote: > While I agree that learning how to setup apache, dns, mail, mysql, > iptables, etc is the best way to proceed, the OP had asked about using > webmin and why it wasn't in the repo's. The reply was a resounding - > _because it sucks_. While quite a subjective answer, it would be > understandable that developers/maintainers would see much more under tht > hood of an app than a user would, and would (hopefully) have a handful > of quantifiable reasons for such a conclusion. > > But, to leave it at that, simply tells the entire community - _there are > no useful tools which do this, and we don't intend to build or support > one_ (which is probably not a good summary to infer). I agree it's not good, but it's the inference I take, too :-( > So, if anyone on the list (including developers/maintainers) knows of > any tools like this (or if there are any in the works), I (and I'm sure > the OP) would like to hear about them. > > Here's my .02 for what I have tried, and what I am doing at present > > ---- > > IPTables - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to > administer rulesets. It is, of course, hazardous to be modifying rulesets for IPTables over the net, as you can easily find yourself locked out. But I, too, haven't found a good interface - web or otherwise. I've been using Guarddog locally for years, but it's getting to be too monstrous to maintain. Now I'm trying all the guis again. > > DNS - command line via ssh only - never found a web interface to set > up/maintain domains. cpanel? I have a remote site that uses cpanel and it's _supposed_ to let me maintain most of the DNS, but it's not properly configured and I usually have to get the hosting provider to fix my DNS. I don't know whether that's the provider's fault or whether cpanel really doesn't do the job. cpanel might have some of the other things you want, too. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 5 18:39:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:39:46 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> <47376-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED07AB@[75.194.213.170]> Message-ID: Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:37:20 -0500 John Dangler > wrote: >>So, since webmin is obviously _not_ the developers/maintainers choice, >>what is/are the alternative(s) ? >>One alternative that I tried was ISPConfig (under Breezxy). ISPConfig >>is a nightmare with Ubuntu, and is as difficult to remove as Norton on >>Doze (and doesn't handle qmail/vpopmail, among other things). >> >>So, what do the developers/maintainers suggest? > > The standard answer to this question on the postfix-users is don't. These > are complex systems and by using such tools you will not develop a > sufficiently deep understanding of how they work and how to operate them. > > I'm inclined to agree. I used to see exactly the same on the Exim list. I frequently and vehemently _disagreed_. In almost every case of a misconfigured mail server, the problem comes down to a case that any half-decently written GUI would have prevented from ever occurring. Which is not to suggest that Webmin modules are usually, or even ever, written half-decently, but I cannot accept that forcing people to code rules for a complex system by using a text editor ever improves either the user experience or the reliability of the system. If webmin modules suck, they should be fixed. Just removing webmin and not providing a better config tool is asking for trouble (that said, there are better config tools for many apps - but not for mail servers, ime). -- derek From gethemant at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 19:51:03 2007 From: gethemant at gmail.com (hemant) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:21:03 +0530 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: <45C7423A.4040102@gatech.edu> References: <45C7423A.4040102@gatech.edu> Message-ID: On 2/5/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > hemant wrote: > > On 2/3/07, hemant wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> When I connect to remote machines from my local dapper workstation, > >> after sometime my SSH session hangs without any apparent reason. > >> > >> I have literally searched internet for hours for a solution and people > >> seem to have following reasons for this: > >> > >> - Poor DNS > >> - Packet fragmentation and firewall problem, and bulk text freezes the session > >> - Inactivity timeout. > >> > >> Although I won't call my DNS to be solid, but when I connect to the > >> same machines using putty from Windows(which uses zonealarm firewall), > >> ssh sessions work fine and doesn't hang as they hang in Linux. > >> > >> Many people had ssh session hangs, when the command entered in remote > >> session transferred large amount of text. I can assure, you guys that, > >> its not the case here. Even doing, small chunks transfer session > >> freezes. > >> > >> And of course, its not inactivity timeout, it happens, when i would be > >> in middle of entering some command. > >> > >> Also, interesting fact is, many of my collegues within same intranet > >> complained about their putty throwing "garbled network data", but > >> since I had zonealarm on, I didn't face any problems in > >> Windows.(zonealarm seems to be ordering bytes or something like that > >> in Windows and for me, I never get session hangs in Windows when using > >> putty) > >> > >> I am literally frustrated here and would love any solution/points.(I > >> hate booting into Windows, for working on remote machines) > >> > >> Also I am running firestarter on my machine. I also tried setting up > >> MTU = 576 using ifconfig eth0 mtu 576, but doesn't seem to have any > >> impact. > >> > >> > >> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ----------------- > >> inet addr:10.0.0.187 Bcast:10.10.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > >> inet6 addr: fe80::215:f2ff:fe91:dc77/64 Scope:Link > >> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > >> RX packets:46986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > >> TX packets:19000 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > >> RX bytes:21881243 (20.8 MiB) TX bytes:2177529 (2.0 MiB) > >> Interrupt:217 Base address:0x2000 > >> > >> lo Link encap:Local Loopback > >> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > >> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > >> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > >> RX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > >> TX packets:5229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > >> RX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) TX bytes:2434670 (2.3 MiB) > >> > >> Linux xaos 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux > > > > Anyone? > > > > > Hmm, why don't you try using SSH after booting the live CD. That should > tell you whether any of your configuration (e.g. firestarter, which I've > never heard of) messed things up. Normally, I think the live CD > includes SSH. > Hmm, surely I would try. But i doubt, firestarter is the root problem, because I had problem with default installation itself and I installed firestarter on top to see, if putting the firewall solves the problem. From gethemant at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 19:52:58 2007 From: gethemant at gmail.com (hemant) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:22:58 +0530 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@75.194.213.170> References: <47346-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED096C@75.194.213.170> Message-ID: On 2/5/07, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:06:30 +0530 hemant wrote: > >On 2/3/07, hemant wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> When I connect to remote machines from my local dapper workstation, > >> after sometime my SSH session hangs without any apparent reason. > >> > >> I have literally searched internet for hours for a solution and people > >> seem to have following reasons for this: > >> > >> - Poor DNS > >> - Packet fragmentation and firewall problem, and bulk text freezes the > session > >> - Inactivity timeout. > >> > >> Although I won't call my DNS to be solid, but when I connect to the > >> same machines using putty from Windows(which uses zonealarm firewall), > >> ssh sessions work fine and doesn't hang as they hang in Linux. > > Take some data (preferably from the boxes on both ends of the connection) > using Ethereal/Wireshark or tcpdump. If you can get the data you should be > able to see what is holding things up. It would be difficult to take data from both end of things. because I really doesn't have much control over servers on which i connect. Although I can cerainly investigate my end. But as Matthew said, i can't decrpyt that information manually. From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 5 20:09:56 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:09:56 +0100 Subject: manual partition table References: <9abk94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> Gnome partion editor can expand an area on the drive...., you can use the install cd and use it ftom there System>Admin>gnome..... HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Broughton" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: manual partition table > Erik Schmidt wrote: > >> is it possible to use the manual partition table on teh ubuntu >> installer to reintegrate two partitions? > > Do you just want to take, e.g., partitions 2 & 3, turn them into a single > partition 2 and install a new filesystem on it? > > Then, yes. > > If you mean you want to combine two partitions into a single one with all > the data from both partitions, not easily! The simplest way is to back up > both filesystems, delete both partitions, create the new partition, put a > new filesystem on it and copy back the backups. The harder way is to > backup both partitions, delete partition 3, grow partition 2 to fill the > space (I know this can be done, I don't know if the partitioner on the > Ubuntu installer is capable), grow the _filesystem_ to fill the partition, > and then copy the files from partition 3 onto it - most of which you can't > do from inside the installer. > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 20:15:20 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:15:20 -0500 Subject: manual partition table In-Reply-To: <007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> References: <9abk94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> Message-ID: <1161C0A0-B6E4-4AA2-B23B-6CA6491F25D9@gmail.com> well, it might be easier if I tell you what I'm trying to do I installed ubuntu onto a ten gb partition, I want those ten gb back on my main file system, the file system on which I am running mac osx is this possible to do? or am I stuck with ubuntu? On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Trevor Nye wrote: > Gnome partion editor can expand an area on the drive...., > you can use the install cd and use it ftom there > System>Admin>gnome..... > > HTH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Broughton" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: manual partition table > > >> Erik Schmidt wrote: >> >>> is it possible to use the manual partition table on teh ubuntu >>> installer to reintegrate two partitions? >> >> Do you just want to take, e.g., partitions 2 & 3, turn them into a >> single >> partition 2 and install a new filesystem on it? >> >> Then, yes. >> >> If you mean you want to combine two partitions into a single one >> with all >> the data from both partitions, not easily! The simplest way is to >> back up >> both filesystems, delete both partitions, create the new >> partition, put a >> new filesystem on it and copy back the backups. The harder way is to >> backup both partitions, delete partition 3, grow partition 2 to >> fill the >> space (I know this can be done, I don't know if the partitioner on >> the >> Ubuntu installer is capable), grow the _filesystem_ to fill the >> partition, >> and then copy the files from partition 3 onto it - most of which >> you can't >> do from inside the installer. >> -- >> derek >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-users mailing list >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 20:15:13 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:15:13 -0500 Subject: ssh session freezes in dapper In-Reply-To: References: <45C7423A.4040102@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45C79051.40808@gatech.edu> hemant wrote: >> Hmm, why don't you try using SSH after booting the live CD. That should >> tell you whether any of your configuration (e.g. firestarter, which I've >> never heard of) messed things up. Normally, I think the live CD >> includes SSH. >> > > > Hmm, surely I would try. But i doubt, firestarter is the root problem, > because I had problem with default installation itself and I installed > firestarter on top to see, if putting the firewall solves the problem. > Well, I would try the Live CD anyway. Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 5 21:01:34 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:01:34 +0100 Subject: manual partition table References: <9abk94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca><007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> <1161C0A0-B6E4-4AA2-B23B-6CA6491F25D9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009f01c74968$d4b3fb60$0600000a@mcetest> do you want to keep the ubuntu area? yes I can't help i do not know MAC that well no insert the ubuntu cd and boot it use gnome partion editor and delete the ubuntu partition expand mac os into the new space hth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Schmidt" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Re: manual partition table > well, it might be easier if I tell you what I'm trying to do > > I installed ubuntu onto a ten gb partition, I want those ten gb back > on my main file system, the file system on which I am running mac osx > > is this possible to do? or am I stuck with ubuntu? > > On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Trevor Nye wrote: > >> Gnome partion editor can expand an area on the drive...., >> you can use the install cd and use it ftom there >> System>Admin>gnome..... >> >> HTH >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Derek Broughton" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:57 PM >> Subject: Re: manual partition table >> >> >>> Erik Schmidt wrote: >>> >>>> is it possible to use the manual partition table on teh ubuntu >>>> installer to reintegrate two partitions? >>> >>> Do you just want to take, e.g., partitions 2 & 3, turn them into a >>> single >>> partition 2 and install a new filesystem on it? >>> >>> Then, yes. >>> >>> If you mean you want to combine two partitions into a single one >>> with all >>> the data from both partitions, not easily! The simplest way is to >>> back up >>> both filesystems, delete both partitions, create the new >>> partition, put a >>> new filesystem on it and copy back the backups. The harder way is to >>> backup both partitions, delete partition 3, grow partition 2 to >>> fill the >>> space (I know this can be done, I don't know if the partitioner on >>> the >>> Ubuntu installer is capable), grow the _filesystem_ to fill the >>> partition, >>> and then copy the files from partition 3 onto it - most of which >>> you can't >>> do from inside the installer. >>> -- >>> derek >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-users mailing list >>> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-users mailing list >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ >> listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From brass at pacificcoast.net Mon Feb 5 21:03:54 2007 From: brass at pacificcoast.net (Paul Brasseur) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs In-Reply-To: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> References: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hello: I tried to install a Dual Boot System on my older Compaq Presario. But when I attempt to use the installation program to resize my C Drive to accommodate a Linux Partition, the process appears to just Hang. Nothing appears to be happening to the Drive. Yet, I get NO Error Messages. I have tried using different sizes of Partitions, but get the same result. Could WinXP's Restoration Program be causing the Process to Hang ? Regards, Paul Brasseur (Victoria, B.C. Canada ) From philsf at ufrj.br Mon Feb 5 21:14:10 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:14:10 -0200 Subject: manual partition table In-Reply-To: <1161C0A0-B6E4-4AA2-B23B-6CA6491F25D9@gmail.com> References: <007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> <1161C0A0-B6E4-4AA2-B23B-6CA6491F25D9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702051914.10509.philsf@ufrj.br> On Monday 05 February 2007 18:15:20 Erik Schmidt wrote: > well, it might be easier if I tell you what I'm trying to do > > I installed ubuntu onto a ten gb partition, I want those ten gb back > on my main file system, the file system on which I am running mac osx > > is this possible to do? or am I stuck with ubuntu? You are never stuck with anything you don´t want. Check if your MacOS supports LVM. If it does, as you are about to make a full backup of this HD (you KNOW you are supposed to, don´t you?) I suggest you take this oportunity to implement it. Otherwise, you could use the separate partition mounted as a dir, does that suit your needs? The third option I can think of was already described in this thread, so... regards FF From philsf at ufrj.br Mon Feb 5 21:18:49 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:18:49 -0200 Subject: LVM trouble adding new drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702051918.49317.philsf@ufrj.br> On Monday 05 February 2007 01:23:53 Denis Witt wrote: > Hi, > > i'm running Edgy on an VIA embedded PC with a 250GB HDD in a LVM-Group > named "Ubuntu". This was the only drive in this device and of course i'm > booting from this drive. > > Now i want to add a second drive, it's excatly the same model as the > already installed one. > > So i put the drive into the PC and started Edgy, everything fine: > > cfdisk /dev/hdc > => hdc1 => 0x8e > => Everything fine > > > pvcreate /dev/hdc1 > => Got error message: > > root at fenchurch:~# pvcreate -v /dev/hdc > Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices > Wiping internal VG cache > Device /dev/hdc not found (or ignored by filtering). > > pvcreate /dev/hdc1 -v --force > => Seems fine: > > root at fenchurch:~# pvcreate -v /dev/hdc1 --force > Set up physical volume for "/dev/hdc1" with 488391618 available sectors > Zeroing start of device /dev/hdc1 > Physical volume "/dev/hdc1" successfully created Been there. Check if you have a dir /dev/evms, and if you do, use /dev/evms/hdc1 instead. regards FF From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 5 21:31:18 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:31:18 +0000 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <45C72754.9010409@yandex.ru> <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45C745F6.7030408@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45C7A226.7040302@yandex.ru> Derek Broughton wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of my root partition >>> in the LVM. I'm not really sure what _could_ happen, but I worry that if >>> the device starts to fail there may be nothing at all recoverable if I >>> can't get into the LVM and mount the root. So I put / on a physical >>> partition but everything else in the LVM. >> >> Sure, I put everything I can into LVM. If you need to access it you can >> boot up from a knoppix cd and modprobe dm-mod then you can fiddle around >> with the data, as easily as if it's on a standard partition. > > I should see if that's possible from the Ubuntu CD. I rather doubt it, as > the Live CD doesn't allow for LVM partitioning during the install. > >> Also I >> should say that if you are concerned about failing devices, then using >> standard paritions won't protect you one iota. Best off coming up with a >> better backup strategy. > > Murphy's law will tell you that no matter how good your backup strategy, > there's going to be something important on the drive that didn't yet get > backed up; and experience tells me that laptop drives _always_ fail. Every > single laptop I have owned (four so far) has had to have a drive replaced. > It could be me (I'm definitely hard on the hardware); it could be bad > choices of hardware; but it always happens. > That's bad luck, and precisely the reason why I suggest you have a more robust backup strategy. I don't see how having /root on a partition helps at, especially given the fact that no vital user data is stored on it. >> Besides I find that reinstalling a system completely only takes a few >> hours, just make sure that my user data is backed up, because that's >> taken literally years to acquire, and no amount of time/money could >> bring it back. > > Yes it does just take a few hours - it's the recent work that is the > problem. Now, that's not really a problem for me with respect to the root > partition anyway, because there's no user modified data on that partition > except what's in /etc - and even that is largely installed from packages or > debconf, but I still have qualms about having / on lvm. Well that's fine, if you feel more comfortable, then keep / serparte, you will sacrifice the ability to resize it though. >> Personally I have a script in cron.hourly that runs rsync, copying from >> my /home to a USB hard drive. > > Interesting. I wouldn't want to copy all of /home/$USER - that's got GBs of > essentially static content, too, but everything that's routinely modified > is going to be under ~/Desktop/ > Rsync only copies changed files, I use: rsync -av --delete --delete-excluded --exclude=vmware /home /media/LACIE/Backup This one, From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 5 21:38:24 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:38:24 +0100 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs References: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000e01c7496e$01a3ca10$0600000a@mcetest> You need to boot from the CD, you may need to change your bios settings to do this hth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Brasseur" To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs > Hello: > > I tried to install a Dual Boot System on my older Compaq Presario. > But when I attempt to use the installation program to resize my C > Drive to accommodate a Linux Partition, the process appears to just > Hang. Nothing appears to be happening to the Drive. Yet, I get NO > Error Messages. I have tried using different sizes of Partitions, but > get the same result. > > Could WinXP's Restoration Program be causing the Process to Hang ? > > > > Regards, > Paul Brasseur > (Victoria, B.C. > Canada ) > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 21:44:38 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:44:38 -0500 Subject: manual partition table In-Reply-To: <200702051914.10509.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <007601c74961$bd339c40$0600000a@mcetest> <1161C0A0-B6E4-4AA2-B23B-6CA6491F25D9@gmail.com> <200702051914.10509.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <8D6FE1E8-4840-4909-989E-E20BC1FB83C4@gmail.com> I like the seperate partition mountedd as a dir, thanks I assume I just use the "mount" command to do that, yes? On Feb 5, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > On Monday 05 February 2007 18:15:20 Erik Schmidt wrote: >> well, it might be easier if I tell you what I'm trying to do >> >> I installed ubuntu onto a ten gb partition, I want those ten gb back >> on my main file system, the file system on which I am running mac osx >> >> is this possible to do? or am I stuck with ubuntu? > > You are never stuck with anything you don´t want. > > Check if your MacOS supports LVM. If it does, as you are about to > make a full > backup of this HD (you KNOW you are supposed to, don´t you?) I > suggest you > take this oportunity to implement it. > > Otherwise, you could use the separate partition mounted as a dir, > does that > suit your needs? > > The third option I can think of was already described in this > thread, so... > > regards > FF > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 21:52:40 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:52:40 -0500 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs In-Reply-To: <000e01c7496e$01a3ca10$0600000a@mcetest> References: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> <000e01c7496e$01a3ca10$0600000a@mcetest> Message-ID: <45C7A728.7070503@gatech.edu> It seems obvious that he's figured out how to boot the install. How else could he try different partition sizes? I recommend you leave it running overnight, and report here exactly what is on the screen when you leave and come back to it. That should provide a good indication of what's happening. Matt Flaschen Trevor Nye wrote: > You need to boot from the CD, you may need to change your bios settings to > do this > > hth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Brasseur" > To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 PM > Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs > > >> Hello: >> >> I tried to install a Dual Boot System on my older Compaq Presario. >> But when I attempt to use the installation program to resize my C >> Drive to accommodate a Linux Partition, the process appears to just >> Hang. Nothing appears to be happening to the Drive. Yet, I get NO >> Error Messages. I have tried using different sizes of Partitions, but >> get the same result. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can this help > me avoid the MBR/Windows boot loader/GRUB mess that I've created on my > machine at the moment? > It would, so long as you make sure you install GRUB to /boot and not to the MBR. > Hmm. Time to read up on LVM when I have time -- well, ok, so I > procrastinated for a few minutes -- I don't think the LVM is a viable > solution for me. I want to keep the server running in a virtual > machine (VMware) and I suspect that using LVMs will not work very > nicely with the virtual machine for sharing purposes (unless I can > install the LVM software into the VM and have it manage various > partitions/drives inside the VM). > I think that you should read a little on LVM. Your virtual machine will see the drive *exactly* as the host operating system. If you virtual machine is running inside Linux as the host then it could directly access the mounts. However, you will never get Windows to read the logical volumes held inside a volume group. > Eric. > From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Mon Feb 5 22:18:23 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:18:23 +1100 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <0mak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> <47376-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED07AB@[75.194.213.170]> <1170694262.14202.24.camel@localhost> <0mak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <20070206091823.f69c8ffb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:46:55 -0400 Derek Broughton wrote: > It is, of course, hazardous to be modifying rulesets for IPTables over the > net, as you can easily find yourself locked out. One way around this ( it's not a security strategy in itself, but I think it's a handy tool) is "port knocking". This allows you to gain, for instance, ssh access by "knocking" on closed ports in a pre-defined manner to "open" , say, port 22. The daemon executes an iptables rule to open a port when the correct sequence is detected. It will also close the port after a time out period, if configured in /etc/knockd.conf . This time can be quite short if your iptables include a rule like iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ( Once you are connected, it can "shut up shop" again to other connections, since your existing connection will continue ) The package is called "knockd" and comes with the daemon and a "knocking client" . Quite clever. See for example http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6811 for a discussion of the method, or http://www.zeroflux.org/cgi-bin/cvstrac.cgi/knock/wiki apt-cache show knockd :-) It's in universe, if you are interested. Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Mon Feb 5 22:32:18 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:32:18 +1100 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:15:05 -0800 Rares Vernica wrote: > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? I'm intrigued - why would you want to turn this off ? Peter From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 22:34:45 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:34:45 -0500 Subject: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) In-Reply-To: <6gpj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <77520bee0702041726u63e6e6a2ne11ed7448d2235cb@mail.gmail.com> <6gpj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <77520bee0702051434j2c6169c1r35334030e4c9f850@mail.gmail.com> On 05/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and > > over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the > > windows partition that I just installed. > > No you didn't. You just need a "chainloader" entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst. > There _should_ be one there, that's commented out, but if there isn't, put > this in there (the "hd0,0" option to "root" means the first partition of > the first hard drive - adjust if necessary). Nothing else is necessary, > just reboot. > > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS > # on /dev/sda1 > title Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1 I do have a chainloader entry in the grub menu but, when I select it it actually displays the last few lines you wrote above and goes right back into the grub menu ;-). Thanks for your thoughts -- I'll have to play with it in a few days when I have time (provided I have the discipline to stay away from the computer ;-). Eric. From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 5 22:27:42 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 23:27:42 +0100 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs References: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> <000e01c7496e$01a3ca10$0600000a@mcetest> <45C7A728.7070503@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <003001c74975$d0362880$0600000a@mcetest> If my memory is right you can view the cd from windows. the install icon will be on the ubuntu screen and clicking it will give the impression of snstalling. it was a while ago i did this though. i may well be wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Flaschen" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Installation Process Just Hangs > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 5 22:55:36 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:55:36 -0500 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C7B5E8.7080206@gatech.edu> Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? > > I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like > directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. The shell Zsh acts this way, and has much more powerful and customizable (though I don't think this can be customized) completion behavior. Try it: sudo apt-get install zsh Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From blissfix at yahoo.com Mon Feb 5 23:16:04 2007 From: blissfix at yahoo.com (maxim wexler) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:16:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: <001101c74935$b2203ce0$a443fea9@stbfm01> Message-ID: <80796.50371.qm@web31704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Can anyone provide some assistance or advice on how > I can get connected? > Man, I feel your pain. We dialuppers are a dying, much abused breed :( This is how I had to do it. Some of the details are hazy but this gives a flavo(u)r. Don't use kppp. IIRC it doesn't ask for a passwd; then you get "access denied". Use pppconfig. You might have to use a bootCD. I forget why that was necessary. Think it was because the bootCD knew more about the drivers. lsmod is your friend. Oh, and obviously, if pppconfig is not in your distro you'll have to connect with the bootCD to get the tarball or whatever package you like. Make sure you choose DNS server option. pppconfig is easy to configure and has a single page, forget the option, which displays and allows user to edit name, phone number, passwd etc. Once you connect(if you connect) check the logs to find out the ip numbers that were involved. pppconfig writes a bunch of files to /etc/ppp(and /etc/resolv,I think), cat those to your favo(u)rite storage medium. Now you got plenty info. Install pppconfig, run the program and check what it does against what it did do. Maxim ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From witt at cat06.de Tue Feb 6 00:15:53 2007 From: witt at cat06.de (Denis Witt) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:15:53 +0100 Subject: LVM trouble adding new drive In-Reply-To: <200702051918.49317.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200702051918.49317.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: Felipe Figueiredo schrieb: > Been there. Check if you have a dir /dev/evms, and if you do, > use /dev/evms/hdc1 instead. Thanks for your reply. If i will get in touch with LVM i will try this. Unfortenatly my LVM VG crashed because of incompatibilities with my USB-Drive and the USB-Onboard-Controller. So i'm currently set up the machine again without using LVM. :( Bye for now! From screaminike at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 00:17:05 2007 From: screaminike at gmail.com (Jeremy J Swarm) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:17:05 -0500 Subject: Freenet Message-ID: <1170721025.25092.1.camel@serverIke> I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience with it? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Gilles at Gravier.org Tue Feb 6 00:33:10 2007 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:33:10 +0100 Subject: Freenet In-Reply-To: <1170721025.25092.1.camel@serverIke> References: <1170721025.25092.1.camel@serverIke> Message-ID: <45C7CCC6.2070407@Gravier.org> Depends what kind of errors you get! There are 2 main areas to look for : 1) Did you properly open NAT redirections in your firewall (if your host is not directly on the internet, but behind a router)? Read this : http://freenetproject.org/faq.html#firewall 2) Did you properly select at least 3 known hosts to connect to as a startup? Read the Important note for first time users at : http://freenetproject.org/download.html 3) Java. What Java VM are you using? I recommend the sun-java5-* VM. Your solution probably lies within the answer to one of these 3 questions. Gilles. Jeremy J Swarm wrote: > I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience > with it? > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also I seem to recall an issue of installing from the Live CD whereby it was looking for a DHCP address and hanging if the PC was set to a fixed IP. From cyclothunder at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 01:36:20 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (cyclothunder) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:36:20 +0000 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs In-Reply-To: References: <444A8F26.4070500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45C7DB94.5000003@gmail.com> Try to partition your disk first, then start the install. If it doesn't work try to record ubuntu to another cd. NoOp wrote: > Paul Brasseur wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I tried to install a Dual Boot System on my older Compaq Presario. >> But when I attempt to use the installation program to resize my C >> Drive to accommodate a Linux Partition, the process appears to just >> Hang. Nothing appears to be happening to the Drive. Yet, I get NO >> Error Messages. 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URL: From badgerclan at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 01:51:34 2007 From: badgerclan at gmail.com (Badger) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:51:34 -0800 Subject: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: <001101c74935$b2203ce0$a443fea9@stbfm01> References: <001101c74935$b2203ce0$a443fea9@stbfm01> Message-ID: <6ef077b60702051751l2986a51dgf89ee4cbc5a05089@mail.gmail.com> You need to setup either pppconfig or wvdialconfig. For general directions on dialup see: http://www.eskimo.com/support/Linux.html On 2/5/07, Jim Sheppard wrote: > > I have been trying unsuccessfully for several weeks to get Ubuntu 6.10 up > and running. The main stumbling block has been establishing a dial up > connection to the outside world. Broadband is not an option here. I have > finally found a modem, US Robotics Performance Pro 56K (5610C) that works > with Ubuntu 6.10. The modem is recognised by the OS and dials out. > Handshaking with the host begins but the connection cannot be authenticated. > > > > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: OK > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: -- got it > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: send (ATDTW6134824010^M) > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: timeout set to 75 seconds > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: expect (CONNECT) > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: ^M > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: AT&FH0L1^M^M > > Feb 2 08:48:06 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: OK^M > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: ATDTW6134824010^M^M > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: CONNECT > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 chat[5213]: -- got it > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Serial connection established. > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Using interface ppp0 > > Feb 2 08:49:02 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2 > > Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Remote message: ^M^JAccess > denied^M^J > > Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Connection terminated. > > Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Terminating on signal 15 > > Feb 2 08:49:08 jshep-ubuntu610 pppd[5202]: Exit. > > > > Can anyone provide some assistance or advice on how I can get connected? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jim > > Kemptville, ON > > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Chris D. 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URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 6 02:09:22 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:09:22 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <45C72754.9010409@yandex.ru> <99pj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45C745F6.7030408@yandex.ru> <45C77D5F.1010205@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> Yes it does just take a few hours - it's the recent work that is the >> problem. Now, that's not really a problem for me with respect to the >> root partition anyway, because there's no user modified data on that >> partition except what's in /etc - and even that is largely installed from >> packages or debconf, but I still have qualms about having / on lvm. >>> Personally I have a script in cron.hourly that runs rsync, copying from >>> my /home to a USB hard drive. >> >> Interesting. I wouldn't want to copy all of /home/$USER - that's got GBs >> of essentially static content, too, but everything that's routinely >> modified is going to be under ~/Desktop/ > > The rsync algorithm should only copy changed files. Of course it should - but it needs to have a full copy on each side to know which files are changed, and I don't have a big enough USB stick to keep all of ~/ on. -- derek From aradsky at ne.rr.com Tue Feb 6 02:29:43 2007 From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:29:43 -0500 Subject: debain version In-Reply-To: <1170111191.5762.48.camel@wadesmart> References: <1170111191.5762.48.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <45C7E817.4070207@ne.rr.com> Wade Smart wrote: >01292007 1651 GMT-6 > >Im looking at installing a pano app called Hugin located at >http://hugin.sourceforge.net/download/, and it says packages available >for apt debain 1 or apt debain 2. > >Ubuntu is based on debain but which one do I choose: 1 or 2? > >wade > > > > I hope you haven't been left with the impression that 'D E B A I N' is the correct spelling..It's 'D E B I A N', created by Ian Murdock, a combination of his wife's name DEBBIE and his name IAN. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 6 02:15:08 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:15:08 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702051116r2c02582fg14261fcb2d01163d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 05/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> 1 for Windows, 1 for Linux root, 1 for swap, remainder for LVM. > > 0 for Windows. Well, that's just my system. The important part is the LVM - in fact the volume group can span drives & partitions, even. > However, someone suggested /boot as its own partition. Can this help > me avoid the MBR/Windows boot loader/GRUB mess that I've created on my > machine at the moment? You really _don't_ have a mess. I used a /boot partition for years, and finally decided it wasn't worth it. > Hmm. Time to read up on LVM when I have time -- well, ok, so I > procrastinated for a few minutes -- I don't think the LVM is a viable > solution for me. I want to keep the server running in a virtual > machine (VMware) and I suspect that using LVMs will not work very > nicely with the virtual machine for sharing purposes (unless I can > install the LVM software into the VM and have it manage various > partitions/drives inside the VM). LVM is no worse than any other partitioning system - I really don't like to be writing directly to other partitions from the VM. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 6 02:16:09 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:16:09 -0400 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702051116r2c02582fg14261fcb2d01163d@mail.gmail.com> <45C7ADF7.3020802@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <905l94-9i7.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > >> However, someone suggested /boot as its own partition. Can this help >> me avoid the MBR/Windows boot loader/GRUB mess that I've created on my >> machine at the moment? >> > > It would, so long as you make sure you install GRUB to /boot and not to > the MBR. I don't get that - I used /boot and grub in the MBR for years -- derek From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Tue Feb 6 03:46:54 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:46:54 +0000 Subject: wired and wireless internet Message-ID: <45C7FA2E.7040005@btinternet.com> I have a question about wired and wireless Internet connections in Ubuntu Edgy. Last night, I asked someone at my Linux group to set my laptop up so I could use both my network card and my broadband connection at home as I use wireless Internet at Voxbar where my Linux group meets but use wired Broadband MODEM at home. He told me he could set me up without using Gnome Network Manager, saying the application could be a bit difficult to use via the connection settings in Edgy but I have just had a thought. Both my usernames and passwords are different both when logging in using Vox's Wireless Network and my BT account at home. If I connect my wired Broadband MODEM up to my laptop at home, which account information do I need to supply to get connected, my Login details which I use for Linux at Vox bar or will my BT username and password work when my wired connection is being used? Do I for example when doing a sudo apt-get update use my Linux username and password or the account details I chose for BT? I want to make sure I don't get locked out of my BT account. From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Tue Feb 6 04:10:50 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 23:10:50 -0500 Subject: wired and wireless internet In-Reply-To: <45C7FA2E.7040005@btinternet.com> References: <45C7FA2E.7040005@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20070206041050.GA1724@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The username and password you use to login to your Linux box is different from the username and password you use to get your mail or login to your account with your internet provider. Most wireless networks don't require a username and password, so the info you are entering to access your computer is your system username and password. You will use this same info to login at home on that box. But in order to collect your mail from bt you will need your username and password for your bt account. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFx//KG9IpekrhBfIRAudTAJ9iTFISjiEyefrmx/QxzBoCqN3PHgCeK4J1 O2aKbI45J8+cKsmtLaqiRTc= =G1jP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From screaminike at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 04:31:39 2007 From: screaminike at gmail.com (Jeremy J Swarm) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:31:39 -0500 Subject: Freenet In-Reply-To: <45C7CCC6.2070407@Gravier.org> References: <1170721025.25092.1.camel@serverIke> <45C7CCC6.2070407@Gravier.org> Message-ID: <1170736299.2174.4.camel@serverIke> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:33 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote: > Depends what kind of errors you get! > > There are 2 main areas to look for : > > 1) Did you properly open NAT redirections in your firewall (if your > host is not directly on the internet, but behind a router)? Read > this : http://freenetproject.org/faq.html#firewall > > 2) Did you properly select at least 3 known hosts to connect to as a > startup? Read the Important note for first time users at : > http://freenetproject.org/download.html > > 3) Java. What Java VM are you using? I recommend the sun-java5-* VM. > > Your solution probably lies within the answer to one of these 3 > questions. > > Gilles. > > Jeremy J Swarm wrote: > > I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience > > with it? > > > > > > -- > Gilles Gravier = Gilles at Gravier.org = http://www.gravier.org/ > > ICQ : 77488526 || MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org > Skype : ggravier || Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier > PGP Key ID : 0x8DE6D026 > > "Chastity is its own punishment." (Solomon Short) [David Gerrold] > "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus > aberrante." [Anatole France] > it never seems to properly init the local server. i INSTALLED sun java 1.5, but it seems to use gij. i don't know how to stop that. and i think this is the root of my problem. but maybe not. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Tue Feb 6 04:46:07 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:46:07 +0000 Subject: difficulty accessing and finding files in edgy Message-ID: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> I am having a bit of a problem accessing or finding files in Edgy and don't know why some file names show up in Gnome yet some only seem to show up in terminal and trying to copy files from terminal refuses to work when I need to copy them to my USB stick. For example I am having difficulty in setting up Espeak and someone asked me if I can copy these config files to him for sorting them out in case uncommenting or commenting out lines hasn't worked for example one file he needs is speechd.conf which is found under something like /etc/speech-dispacher and there was something like one which was something to do with espeak.con. I tried to look on the desktop for my files knowing the files I wanted to find but they are not showing up and using the search for files seems to give me no results which is a pain because when I entered the terminal, went to my home directory and did ls, sure enough was the etc directory which I changed to, I then entered speech-dispacher directory and there was at least one of the files I was asked to send. However I can't seem to be able to copy these important config files to my USB Stick from the terminal for some reason. Why am I having this trouble? I have tried going into properties and looking at permisions tab to find out whether these files are restricted despite me being the only user and not a thing could I find which was blocking access to these files from the Gnome access which I know does allow me to copy files to my USB stick. From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 04:58:17 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:58:17 -0500 Subject: Controlling servers (e.g. apache, samba) In-Reply-To: <20070206091823.f69c8ffb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <77520bee0702021758p1b8de33m8cacf000c92bcdbc@mail.gmail.com> <37219.72.184.10.64.1170469609.squirrel@wrench.homelinux.net> <77520bee0702021849p7b02aba2o8cc94c0d883685f2@mail.gmail.com> <20070203005838.10971abb@chisel> <20070203173229.8a70bc9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <77520bee0702030306q1ac06f0ana6b3987bd60ba129@mail.gmail.com> <45C67128.20508@yandex.ru> <77520bee0702041647w1854e47fyc5e117cdb1696774@mail.gmail.com> <1170652217.5033.42.camel@chronic> <1170689840.14202.6.camel@localhost> <47376-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1ED07AB@[75.194.213.170]> <1170694262.14202.24.camel@localhost> <0mak94-flb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <20070206091823.f69c8ffb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1170737898.14202.69.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 09:18 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:46:55 -0400 > Derek Broughton wrote: > > > It is, of course, hazardous to be modifying rulesets for IPTables over the > > net, as you can easily find yourself locked out. > > One way around this ( it's not a security strategy in itself, but I think > it's a handy tool) is "port knocking". This allows you to gain, for > instance, ssh access by "knocking" on closed ports in a pre-defined manner > to "open" , say, port 22. The daemon executes an iptables rule to open > a port when the correct sequence is detected. It will also close the port > after a time out period, if configured in /etc/knockd.conf . This time can > be quite short if your iptables include a rule like > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > ( Once you are connected, it can "shut up shop" again to other connections, > since your existing connection will continue ) > > The package is called "knockd" and comes with the daemon and a "knocking > client" . Quite clever. See for example > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6811 for a discussion of the method, > or > http://www.zeroflux.org/cgi-bin/cvstrac.cgi/knock/wiki > > apt-cache show knockd :-) > > It's in universe, if you are interested. > > Peter > Peter~ Very interesting. Thanks for the info.. I'm looking into this! > > From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Tue Feb 6 05:03:16 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:03:16 -0500 Subject: difficulty accessing and finding files in edgy In-Reply-To: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> References: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20070206050316.GC1724@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I am the one who requested those files. You are restricted from writing to those files unless you use sudo (terminal) or gksudo (GNOME). But you shouldn't be restricted from reading or copying them as long as you have permission to write to your USB stick, and you should, since it is mounted by GNOME running as the logged-in user. Can you go into /etc in GNOME? If so, can you go into the speech-dispatcher directory from there? It should be a simple copy-and-paste procedure from there. If not, go into the terminal and cd /etc/speech-dispatcher cp speechd.conf modules/espeak-generic.conf /mountpoint/of/usb/stick and the files should copy with no problem. Of course replace /mountpoint/of/usb/stick with the actual place where your USB stick is mounted. HTH, Lorenzo-- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFyAwTG9IpekrhBfIRAqDUAKCbZZ8xzEBq0fM++/82ak/p5xufsACfQfCU RrjwwDPVrFLgGQfoAh2BHw4= =epfx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From custom at freenet.de Tue Feb 6 06:42:24 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:42:24 +0700 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <6f6293f10702021242u1e98f951g6194387451cc1966@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170744144.30373.25.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 15:55 -0500, James Silverton wrote: > FAS> If you're talkiing about an RSS aggregator, HE'S NOT!!!! OBVIOUSLY!!! :-) >From the very start if was blatantly obvious even to my 1 year old that a 'newsreader' == 'Usenet Newsgroups' == an NNTP client. Anyway, to the uninitiated: Kids: Usenet is actually TWO things. So even when talking about Usenet Newsgroups, people will have vastly differing requirements. The two groups are, broadly: 1. Largely unmoderated discussion forums that are near continuous flame & spam fests. Discuss if Michael Schumacher is gay, or why Linus has lost the plot, ad vomitum. 2. A place to get porn, vidz & wAreZZzz. Unsurprisingly, no one tool does both best. For people looking for 1), there are a lot of tools. Indeed Thunderbird and Pan (and Google Groups on the web), but honestly I find myself liking the text-based 'tin' a lot more. Why.. Who knows, I'm a dinosaur, and tin is fast. I set the terminal colours to green on black and pretend I'm young again. For 2), to work on your porn-stash, there's really one that stands out: Klibido!!!!!!!!! This is a KDE app but don't hold that against it; sure it'll grab several KDE packages (kdebase-kitchen-sink et al) but sooner or later you'll end up with those packages anyway so go ahead and take the plunge. > As I said a little earlier, you people have given me a lot to > think about. To me, an "online reader" is different from an RSS > aggregator but I'm no expert on terminology :-) It *IS*. And you ARE!.. People fault themselves far too quickly these days, really life is a much happier place when your standard assumption is that everyone else is (*#$(&(#* in the head. Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Tue Feb 6 06:55:39 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:55:39 +0700 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1170744939.30373.32.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 09:44 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > I certainly consider that I'm running the software on the hardware on which > I purchased it, and don't believe they have a right to prevent it. > However, I've googled exactly one story of someone who successfully got a > key from MS to run it, and he spent many hours on the phone with both Dell > & MS to reach that point (carefully, if I can read between the lines, never > mentioning that the version he was trying to run was running in a VM). So > if I don't find such a patch (sue me Microsoft!) They're all over the place, but as with most such downloads, some are dodgy. Email me and I'll send you one that I've used myself and know is safe. Cheers, Chanchao From dennismouille at hotmail.com Tue Feb 6 06:58:20 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:58:20 -0800 Subject: DSL problems Message-ID: I'm back to XP for the internet. It's just hangs 'Looking for' I have a laptop with a Marvell Yukon Ethernet. I reset the DNS that my internet provider gave me. I tried the following commands, but nothing is working. sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf sudo chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf cat /etc/resolv.conf any ideas out there? - Dennis _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 From dennismouille at hotmail.com Tue Feb 6 06:58:49 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:58:49 -0800 Subject: DSL problems Message-ID: I'm back to XP for the internet. It's just hangs 'Looking for' I have a laptop with a Marvell Yukon Ethernet. I reset the DNS that my internet provider gave me. I tried the following commands, but nothing is working. sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf sudo chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf cat /etc/resolv.conf any ideas out there? - Dennis _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo � buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From custom at freenet.de Tue Feb 6 07:12:23 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:12:23 +0700 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170745943.30373.42.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 12:39 +0100, Colin Brace wrote: > I neighbor of mine recently acquired her first PC, an Acer laptop. She > is vaguely aware of the malware issues, and has asked me to help her > get online. > > my first impulse is to wipe clean the HD and install > Dapper. > > However, this would make me de facto technical support. However, if I > help her get online via Windows, I would probably end up getting calls > from her anyway, and I have zero interest in dealing with XP issues. Obviously the first thing that needs addressing in your own mind is: "Is she pretty? And/or how desperate am I?" > Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any > PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. My mother. She greatly prefers Ubuntu over Windows because the Ubuntu desktop background shows a picture of her granddaughter. (My 1 year old. :) Windows on the other hand shows a totally brain-dead grassy knoll. Also she prefers OpenOffice over MS Office because OpenOffice is in her own language. (For some reason her MS Office install is plain US English) Really, I don't think you'll run into much issues for 'normal' usage. Cheers, Chanchao From dennismouille at hotmail.com Tue Feb 6 08:27:15 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:27:15 -0800 Subject: DSL problems FIX (I think) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From: "Dennis Castanos" >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: DSL problems >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:58:49 -0800 > >I'm back to XP for the internet. It's just hangs 'Looking for' I have a >laptop with a Marvell Yukon Ethernet. I reset the DNS that my internet >provider gave me. I tried the following commands, but nothing is working. >sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf >sudo chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf >cat /etc/resolv.conf > >any ideas out there? - Dennis > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo � buy and sell with people >you know >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us From martin at autotelic.com Tue Feb 6 09:07:39 2007 From: martin at autotelic.com (Dave M G) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:07:39 +0900 Subject: Is there some default volume setting? Message-ID: <45C8455B.6010907@autotelic.com> Ubuntu Users, Every time I reboot, it seems my volume settings return to certain set of levels. In particular, it's the PCM and the "Front" volume settings that keep getting reset. I had assumed that the volume settings would remain at whatever they were when the computer was shut down. Is this not the case? Is there somewhere to set the volume settings that take effect when the computer reboots? -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 09:43:07 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:43:07 +0000 Subject: difficulty accessing and finding files in edgy In-Reply-To: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> References: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702060143p4d4e4a98s87f02f7bda8c758d@mail.gmail.com> On 06/02/07, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > > I am having a bit of a problem accessing or finding files in Edgy and > don't know why some file names show up in Gnome yet some only seem to > show up in terminal and trying to copy files from terminal refuses to > work when I need to copy them to my USB stick. > For example I am having difficulty in setting up Espeak and someone > asked me if I can copy these config files to him for sorting them out in > case uncommenting or commenting out lines hasn't worked for example one > file he needs is speechd.conf which is found under something like > /etc/speech-dispacher and there was something like one which was > something to do with espeak.con. > I tried to look on the desktop for my files knowing the files I wanted > to find but they are not showing up and using the search for files seems > to give me no results which is a pain because when I entered the > terminal, went to my home directory and did ls, sure enough was the etc > directory which I changed to, I then entered speech-dispacher directory > and there was at least one of the files I was asked to send. > However I can't seem to be able to copy these important config files to > my USB Stick from the terminal for some reason. > Why am I having this trouble? > I have tried going into properties and looking at permisions tab to find > out whether these files are restricted despite me being the only user > and not a thing could I find which was blocking access to these files > from the Gnome access which I know does allow me to copy files to my USB > stick. > Firstly, please a few full stops here and there - I had to read your question 3 or 4 times to work out what the issue was! Secondly, are ARE using a leading slash at the start of pathnames aren't you? If you look at the directory structure and layout, you'll see that the etc directory hangs directly off the root of the filesystem and thus it is referenced as "/etc". Your home directory is further down the filesystem and so unless you tell your find command to start at "/" it will never find "/etc" and the files therein. Excuse me if you know all of this, but there is no reason why you can't copy these files out of /etc to your removable media, providing you're specifying the path to the files correctly. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 6 10:03:54 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:03:54 +1100 Subject: Is there some default volume setting? In-Reply-To: <45C8455B.6010907@autotelic.com> References: <45C8455B.6010907@autotelic.com> Message-ID: <20070206210354.936f3dc9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:07:39 +0900 Dave M G wrote: > Is there somewhere to set the volume settings that take effect when the > computer reboots? I think you can use the "alsactl" command to set this at the present/existing levels sudo alsactl store You might want to check the man page, but from memory, that would set everything to the present settings and keep them on reboot. Peter From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Feb 6 10:07:21 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:07:21 -0800 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" Message-ID: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> Anyone know what program in KUbuntu detects the laptop lid being closed and blanks the screen? It is quite helpful in that it does tell me it is doing it. Problem is that it does it every time I log into KDE. See, my laptop is docked. Almost 99.9% of the time it is in the dock. With the lid closed. Because I have a nice 19" CRT hooked into the dock. And since the dock is designed with a monitor stand the lid is closed. As you can imagine this is quite frustrating. :( -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My camera works with Kino when I use /dev/dv1394/0 but not when I use /dev/raw1394 Moreover I can capture with dvgrab and gscanbus also works. also all the modules are loaded dv1394 22104 0 raw1394 30584 0 ohci1394 37040 1 dv1394 ieee1394 306104 3 dv1394,raw1394,ohci1394 and raw1394 has the right permissions and it is in the video group crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 171, 0 2007-02-06 10:32 /dev/raw1394 Does anyone have succeded in setting up a firewire camera in opencv? please help!!!!!! thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a24061 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 6 11:16:58 2007 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:16:58 +0000 Subject: Anyone used mtftar? (converting Windows .bkf backup files to .tar) References: Message-ID: On 2007-01-20, Adam Funk wrote: > I've been looking for a utility to unpack Windows backup (*.bkf) files > on GNU/Linux, and the only thing I've found is mtftar from > http://gpl.internetconnection.net/ > but it doesn't unpack into enough levels. I contacted internetconnection.net and the developer very helpfully looked into this. The program had been tested on backup files from Windows NT and 2000 Advanced Server but he discovered a discrepancy with the files I had (from 2000 not "server"), and fixed it. The current version (now on that website) correctly handles the backup files I'm working with. From c.atsquotl at home.nl Tue Feb 6 12:40:43 2007 From: c.atsquotl at home.nl (Eelco) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:40:43 +0100 Subject: rescue disk Message-ID: <1170765643.10435.4.camel@CC1154457-A.emmen1.dr.home.nl> Hello, I recently installed edgy eft from the dvd iso. The live cd wouldn't work so i did a text install. Everythink seemed to work ok. After the automatic upgrade i couldn't get in. somehow the bootprocess stopped and a killalll signal was sent. So i reinstalled everything. I haven`t updated anything until niw and would like tot do so. How can ik create a rescue cd that would let me undo the updating process and what files do i need to be on that disk? I have a seperate /boot partition. And would like to save user files and e-mails etc.. greets Eelco From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 12:46:49 2007 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:46:49 +0100 Subject: OTRS on Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <379ea5900702060446g6b10b509gfa3024dcfa369c5c@mail.gmail.com> On 02/02/07, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > I have set up an Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server for a customer and next step > will be installing OTRS and get it to run. The server seems to work > fine, and serves the apache info page when pointing a browser at it. > > I have googled quite a bit looking for howtos on getting OTRS > installed and up and running. So far I've found that a few people > have tried and gotten problems with it. But as yet no howto beyond > apt-getting the package itself. Is there really nobody with any advice on this? I've been fiddling a bit with the server, but so far I haven't figured it out on my own. Regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 14:02:57 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:02:57 +0000 Subject: OTRS on Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702060446g6b10b509gfa3024dcfa369c5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> <379ea5900702060446g6b10b509gfa3024dcfa369c5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702060602o6976ddd9x6dc06553d2cf5f5b@mail.gmail.com> On 06/02/07, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > I have googled quite a bit looking for howtos on getting OTRS > > installed and up and running. So far I've found that a few people > > have tried and gotten problems with it. But as yet no howto beyond > > apt-getting the package itself. > > Is there really nobody with any advice on this? I've been fiddling a > bit with the server, but so far I haven't figured it out on my own. > I presume OTRS is the Open Ticket Request System. You say you have the "server" (which I presume you mean web server i.e. Apache) working and returning information but then you go on to imply that you're unsure on how to proceed. Have you tried the OTRS mailing list or even just http://doc.otrs.org/2.1/en/html/c238.html which would seem to cover the installation via rpm and deb. Perhaps you're aware of these pages and hit some other problems - in that case I'd suggest you definitely need to get onto the OTRS mailing list where interested parties hang out, no doubt. Other than that, can you be more specific on what your issues actually are? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As you can imagine > this is quite frustrating. :( I do not know about kubuntu, but in ubuntu you can set the action in System->Preference-Power Management then select the action you want for the lid. Hope it helps. /Magnus -- http://theworldofapenguin.blogspot.com From durahman at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 14:52:22 2007 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:52:22 -0600 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker Message-ID: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> Dear milister, Several days ago I made data dvd with gnome bakker. Everithing is oke (burn sucesfull and linux can read my dvd created by gnome bakker). But problem apear when I try to read the dvd with windowsxp. Windows xp cannot read my dvd. What the problem and how to solve it? Other dvd can read without problem with that windowsxp. Thank you in advance. -- Wasalam, Durahman ===================== http://durahman.blogspot.com/ From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 15:28:08 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:28:08 -0500 Subject: removing a package Message-ID: <1170775688.14202.79.camel@localhost> I was informed by the rosegarden dev group this morning that the rosegarden packages in the Ubuntu repositories are way out of date (in fact the original is more than 10 years old!). I used apt-get remove --purge rosegarden to remove it so that I could go and get the latest source and build a .deb for Ubuntu to submit for the repo's... The package is fairly large, but I got this on apt-get remove - root at croatus:~# apt-get remove --purge rosegarden Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: rosegarden* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 36.9kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y (Reading database ... 118551 files and directories currently installed.) Removing rosegarden ... At this point, it should be gone - BUT root at croatus:~# /usr/bin/rosegarden Warning : Petal library could not be found in TCLLIBPATH (/usr/lib/tclmidi /usr/lib/rosegarden/petal ) Not installing Filter Menu (And the package is running under gnome!) root at croatus:~# apt-get -s install rosegarden Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: rosegarden 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Inst rosegarden (2.1pl4-2 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) Conf rosegarden (2.1pl4-2 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) (This shows that apt thinks the package is _really_ gone) root at croatus:~# apt-get remove --purge rosegarden Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package rosegarden is not installed, so not removed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. root at croatus:~# (This confirms that apt thinks it's gone) But it's still here! What did I do wrong in trying to remove it?? From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Tue Feb 6 15:38:41 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:38:41 +0000 Subject: removing a package In-Reply-To: <1170775688.14202.79.camel@localhost> References: <1170775688.14202.79.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070206153841.GE7510@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (06/02/07 10:28), John Dangler wrote: > I was informed by the rosegarden dev group this morning that the > rosegarden packages in the Ubuntu repositories are way out of date (in > fact the original is more than 10 years old!). > > I used apt-get remove --purge rosegarden to remove it so that I could go > and get the latest source and build a .deb for Ubuntu to submit for the > repo's... The package is fairly large, but I got this on apt-get remove May I suggest you look at using aptitude in interactive mode: $ sudo aptitude You may be able to understand better what dependency relationships exist and it may give you more of a clue about the relative package sizes Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 15:43:28 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:43:28 -0500 Subject: [Resolved]: removing a package In-Reply-To: <1170775688.14202.79.camel@localhost> References: <1170775688.14202.79.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1170776609.14202.83.camel@localhost> I needed to remove rosegarden && rosegarden2 ... On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 10:28 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > I was informed by the rosegarden dev group this morning that the > rosegarden packages in the Ubuntu repositories are way out of date (in > fact the original is more than 10 years old!). > > I used apt-get remove --purge rosegarden to remove it so that I could go > and get the latest source and build a .deb for Ubuntu to submit for the > repo's... The package is fairly large, but I got this on apt-get remove > - > > root at croatus:~# apt-get remove --purge rosegarden > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > rosegarden* > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. > After unpacking 36.9kB disk space will be freed. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y > (Reading database ... 118551 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing rosegarden ... > > At this point, it should be gone - BUT > > root at croatus:~# /usr/bin/rosegarden > Warning : Petal library could not be found in TCLLIBPATH > (/usr/lib/tclmidi /usr/lib/rosegarden/petal ) > Not installing Filter Menu > > (And the package is running under gnome!) > > > root at croatus:~# apt-get -s install rosegarden > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > rosegarden > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Inst rosegarden (2.1pl4-2 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) > Conf rosegarden (2.1pl4-2 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) > > (This shows that apt thinks the package is _really_ gone) > > root at croatus:~# apt-get remove --purge rosegarden > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Package rosegarden is not installed, so not removed > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > root at croatus:~# > > (This confirms that apt thinks it's gone) > > But it's still here! > > What did I do wrong in trying to remove it?? > > > > > From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 15:52:41 2007 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:52:41 +0100 Subject: OTRS on Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server In-Reply-To: <45391f280702060602o6976ddd9x6dc06553d2cf5f5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> <379ea5900702060446g6b10b509gfa3024dcfa369c5c@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702060602o6976ddd9x6dc06553d2cf5f5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <379ea5900702060752n4735c278n9412b46045744978@mail.gmail.com> On 06/02/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > I presume OTRS is the Open Ticket Request System. Exactly. Incidently OTRS is also the precise name of the relevant Ubuntu package in the Universe respository. I did not try to hide what software I was talking about. At least not intentionally. > You say you have the "server" (which I presume you mean web server i.e. > Apache) working and returning information but then you go on to imply that > you're unsure on how to proceed. Yes, as stated the server is a machine running Ubuntu 6.10 server. I set it up with the LAMP (Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP) option during install. The server works fine per se. It boots normally when turned on, runs as expected, and shuts down gracefully when told to. It serves the default Apache info page when web-browsed both locally on http://localhost and on the LAN using its IP-address. Thanks for the link and tip about the mailing list. I was aware of both, but reminders are always good. And no, I haven't sought help on the OTRS mailing list yet. In my experience it pays to isolate the problem as well as can be done, and then going to the correct source for help. So far it seems to me this problem is Ubuntu-specific; not a general problem concerning OTRS. My reasoning comes further down. > Other than that, can you be more specific on what your issues actually are? * Installing OTRS with apt-get seems to work. In a way it does, as files are written to disk. But it yields no discernible result whatsoever. The Apache info page does not get replaced by OTRS. I cannot find any webpage elswhere acting as an OTRS welcome page either. No howto or documentation I've found so far has given any useable tip on where to go from there. * Howtos about installing the OTRS package manually are not helpful. The howto intended for SUSE is clearly not valid. The howto intended for debian systems seems to assume a file structure that doesn't exist on the Ubuntu 6.10 server. I sincerely dislikes the "try and see what happens" approach. It's too much brutal force and total ignorance for me. So when I see the map doesn't fit with the terrain I'd rather find a better map than remoulding the terrain. Besides, a very frequent advice is "use the package from the respository". (And I agree totally with that, especially after seeing how badly Automatix can mangle a system.) So... I have - The hardware - Ubuntu 6.10 server - Apache - MySQL - PHP - OTRS installed with apt-get from the respository I don't have a working OTRS installation in spite of the above. And that brings us back to my original posting. As installing the Ubuntu package OTRS on the Ubuntu server doesn't give any result that's possible for me to discover, I'm so far considering it an Ubuntu specific problem. To quote myself from my original posting: > So have anybody here done it, and feel they could explain how? Kind regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 16:08:01 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:08:01 -0500 Subject: building packages Message-ID: <1170778081.14202.87.camel@localhost> I have downloaded the source for a package (and pre-requisites) that I want to build an Ubuntu package for. Are there any suggestions as to where to store the source? Or does it really matter... Looking at what I've found from searches, /opt, /usr/local/src, and ~/myprojects are all referenced... I'm hoping to submit this for Ubuntu repo review... From ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl Tue Feb 6 16:15:01 2007 From: ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl (Bastian) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:15:01 +0100 Subject: why mkinitramfs doesn't work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070206161504.92B7A4C74C@melvex.xs4all.nl> Oliveiros Cristina schreef: > Dear All, > I am "desperately" trying to generate a ram drive image for use with a > kernel that I've just compiled. > But mkinitramfs always insists in returning this message : > > oliveiros at Machon2:~$ sudo mkinitramfs -o > /boot/initrd-2.6.11-krg-root.img 2.6.11-krg-root > W: kernerl 2.6.11-krg-root too old for initramfs on i386 > W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.11-krg-root > > My ubuntu version is 6.06 LTS > > Can anybody give me a clue to what I might be doing wrong? > > Any help deeply appreciated > > Many thanks in advance > > Kind Regards, > Oliveiros The default kernel version for 6.06 is 2.6.15. Appearantly the mkinitramfs that comes with 6.06 does not like kernel 2.6.11. Do you have a specific reason for using an older kernel version? You can find the images for 2.6.15 in the repositories (or the sources if you want to compile the kernel yourself). You also might want to try yaird instead of mkinitramfs. Bastian From ciasaboark at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 17:11:34 2007 From: ciasaboark at gmail.com (Jonathan Nelson) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:11:34 -0500 Subject: Trouble compiling custom kernel with nvidia kernel module Message-ID: <200702061211.46510.ciasaboark@gmail.com> Hi guys, I'm having a bit of trouble compiling a kernel the 'debian way.' I'm trying to get the latest official kernel built to see if a bug related to USB disk writes has been fixed, but I'm running into the error below. In a nutshell make is complaining that the kernel to be compiled has support for RIVA, which conflicts with the nvidia-kernel module, but as you can see the .config file expressly has RIVA support disabled. I'm a bit new to doing things with make-kpkg, so I might be overlooking something obvious. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. BTW, I was following instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToVanillaKernelWithRealtimePreemption although I did not apply the preemption patch. #nothing here anymore touch configure-stamp if [ -f /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/debian/control.template ]; then \ cp /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/debian/control.template /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/debian/control; \ fi dh_testdir dh_testroot PATCHLEVEL = 6 Kernel compiler version : 4.1.1 Detected compiler version : 4.1.1 Using compiler gcc-4.1 version 4.1.1 touch /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/gcc-check touch /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/cc-sanity-check ## Main Make ## IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1 CC="gcc-4.1" /usr/bin/make -C /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv -f Makefile SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_PARAMS="-C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv" module; make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv' Your kernel was configured to include rivafb support! The rivafb driver conflicts with the NVIDIA driver, please reconfigure your kernel and *disable* rivafb support, then try installing the NVIDIA kernel module again. *** Failed rivafb sanity check. Bailing out! *** make[3]: *** [rivafb-sanity-check] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv' make[2]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel' make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel' Module /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel failed. Hit return to Continue root at raven:/usr/src/linux# cat .config|grep NVIDIA CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m # CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA is not set root at raven:/usr/src/linux# cat .config|grep RIVA CONFIG_IPV6_PRIVACY=y # CONFIG_FB_RIVA is not set root at raven:/usr/src/linux# -- Q: What's a WASP's idea of open-mindedness? A: Dating a Canadian. Jonathan Nelson [icq=56665957] [aim=ciasaboark] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From email.listen at googlemail.com Tue Feb 6 17:12:48 2007 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:12:48 +0100 Subject: OTRS on Ubuntu 6.10 LAMP server In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702060752n4735c278n9412b46045744978@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900702020312m244a4be3t914f19fd44573144@mail.gmail.com> <45391f280702060602o6976ddd9x6dc06553d2cf5f5b@mail.gmail.com> <379ea5900702060752n4735c278n9412b46045744978@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702061812.49683.email.listen@googlemail.com> On Tue, 6. February 2007 16:52:41 Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > On 06/02/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > > I presume OTRS is the Open Ticket Request System. > > Exactly. Incidently OTRS is also the precise name of the relevant > Ubuntu package in the Universe respository. I did not try to hide > what software I was talking about. At least not intentionally. > > > You say you have the "server" (which I presume you mean web server i.e. > > Apache) working and returning information but then you go on to imply > > that you're unsure on how to proceed. > > Yes, as stated the server is a machine running Ubuntu 6.10 server. I > set it up with the LAMP (Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP) option during > install. The server works fine per se. It boots normally when turned > on, runs as expected, and shuts down gracefully when told to. It > serves the default Apache info page when web-browsed both locally on > http://localhost and on the LAN using its IP-address. > > Thanks for the link and tip about the mailing list. I was aware of > both, but reminders are always good. And no, I haven't sought help on > the OTRS mailing list yet. In my experience it pays to isolate the > problem as well as can be done, and then going to the correct source > for help. So far it seems to me this problem is Ubuntu-specific; not > a general problem concerning OTRS. My reasoning comes further down. > > > Other than that, can you be more specific on what your issues actually > > are? > > * Installing OTRS with apt-get seems to work. In a way it does, as > files are written to disk. But it yields no discernible result > whatsoever. The Apache info page does not get replaced by OTRS. I > cannot find any webpage elswhere acting as an OTRS welcome page > either. > No howto or documentation I've found so far has given any useable tip > on where to go from there. > > * Howtos about installing the OTRS package manually are not helpful. > The howto intended for SUSE is clearly not valid. The howto intended > for debian systems seems to assume a file structure that doesn't exist > on the Ubuntu 6.10 server. > I sincerely dislikes the "try and see what happens" approach. It's > too much brutal force and total ignorance for me. So when I see the > map doesn't fit with the terrain I'd rather find a better map than > remoulding the terrain. > Besides, a very frequent advice is "use the package from the > respository". (And I agree totally with that, especially after seeing > how badly Automatix can mangle a system.) > > So... I have > - The hardware > - Ubuntu 6.10 server > - Apache > - MySQL > - PHP > - OTRS installed with apt-get from the respository > > I don't have a working OTRS installation in spite of the above. And > that brings us back to my original posting. As installing the Ubuntu > package OTRS on the Ubuntu server doesn't give any result that's > possible for me to discover, I'm so far considering it an Ubuntu > specific problem. > > To quote myself from my original posting: > > So have anybody here done it, and feel they could explain how? It may not be much of help but I remember that I run into problems which seem to be the same you face now when I once installed OTRS2, long ago. In the end I took the tarball and followed the attached installation instructions. So I configured apache, mysql and some other stuff by hand. And it worked. I would think that you missed to configure apache and/or mysql (and may be your mail server) as described in /usr/share/doc/otrs.../README.Debian... regards, thomas From Gilles at Gravier.org Tue Feb 6 17:17:53 2007 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:17:53 +0100 Subject: Freenet In-Reply-To: <1170736299.2174.4.camel@serverIke> References: <1170721025.25092.1.camel@serverIke> <45C7CCC6.2070407@Gravier.org> <1170736299.2174.4.camel@serverIke> Message-ID: <45C8B841.4000703@Gravier.org> Hi, Jeremy! To select the proper Java VM, run: sudo update-java-alternatives -l Then pick the one you want (java-1.5.0-sun) and run: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun To verify that you are indeed running that version, then, just run : java -version That should confirm that you are now running 1.5.0_XXX Gilles. Jeremy J Swarm wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:33 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote: > >> Depends what kind of errors you get! >> >> There are 2 main areas to look for : >> >> 1) Did you properly open NAT redirections in your firewall (if your >> host is not directly on the internet, but behind a router)? Read >> this : http://freenetproject.org/faq.html#firewall >> >> 2) Did you properly select at least 3 known hosts to connect to as a >> startup? Read the Important note for first time users at : >> http://freenetproject.org/download.html >> >> 3) Java. What Java VM are you using? I recommend the sun-java5-* VM. >> >> Your solution probably lies within the answer to one of these 3 >> questions. >> >> Gilles. >> >> Jeremy J Swarm wrote: >> >>> I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience >>> with it? >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Gilles Gravier = Gilles at Gravier.org = http://www.gravier.org/ >> >> ICQ : 77488526 || MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org >> Skype : ggravier || Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier >> PGP Key ID : 0x8DE6D026 >> >> "Chastity is its own punishment." (Solomon Short) [David Gerrold] >> "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus >> aberrante." [Anatole France] >> >> > it never seems to properly init the local server. > i INSTALLED sun java 1.5, but it seems to use gij. i don't know how to > stop that. > and i think this is the root of my problem. > but maybe not. > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.price at utoronto.ca Tue Feb 6 18:03:54 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:03:54 -0500 Subject: ipw3945 troubles on feisty Message-ID: <1170785034.5808.18.camel@localhost> hi, running a mostly up to date feisty except for a custom kernel (2.6.19, from ubuntu sources, has restricted-modules package installed, workedfine till a few days ago), I'm having lots of trouble with my ipw3945 wireless card. I can still connect to networks but I lose the connection more often than I usedto and my dmesg is littered with the following: [ 8599.288000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 [ 8600.284000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. [ 8600.672000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 [ 8602.128000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. [ 8602.516000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. [ 8603.244000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8610.788000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8618.456000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. [ 8619.448000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 [ 8619.500000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. [ 8619.688000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) [ 8620.276000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. [ -------- ...and so on. the glidepoint issue may be separate -- my pointer works poorly when ipw3945 is failing like this -- it may have to do with cpu usage, which skyrockets under these conditions. anyway I wondered whether anyone else was seeing this issue and what folks had done to fix it. also where I should report this bug (though since I'm using my own kernel I suppose the bug would be rejected). 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Regards Amarnath Srinivasan -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:17 AM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 47 Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: disable autocomplete of the home path (Peter Garrett) 2. Re: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) (Eric Dunbar) 3. Re: Installation Process Just Hangs (Trevor Nye) 4. Re: disable autocomplete of the home path (Matthew Flaschen) 5. Re: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 (maxim wexler) 6. Re: LVM trouble adding new drive (Denis Witt) 7. Freenet (Jeremy J Swarm) 8. Re: Freenet (Gilles Gravier) 9. why mkinitramfs doesn't work? (Oliveiros Cristina) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:32:18 +1100 From: Peter Garrett Subject: Re: disable autocomplete of the home path To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:15:05 -0800 Rares Vernica wrote: > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? I'm intrigued - why would you want to turn this off ? Peter ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:34:45 -0500 From: "Eric Dunbar" Subject: Re: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <77520bee0702051434j2c6169c1r35334030e4c9f850 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and > > over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the > > windows partition that I just installed. > > No you didn't. You just need a "chainloader" entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst. > There _should_ be one there, that's commented out, but if there isn't, put > this in there (the "hd0,0" option to "root" means the first partition of > the first hard drive - adjust if necessary). Nothing else is necessary, > just reboot. > > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS > # on /dev/sda1 > title Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1 I do have a chainloader entry in the grub menu but, when I select it it actually displays the last few lines you wrote above and goes right back into the grub menu ;-). Thanks for your thoughts -- I'll have to play with it in a few days when I have time (provided I have the discipline to stay away from the computer ;-). Eric. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 23:27:42 +0100 From: "Trevor Nye" Subject: Re: Installation Process Just Hangs To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <003001c74975$d0362880$0600000a at mcetest> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If my memory is right you can view the cd from windows. the install icon will be on the ubuntu screen and clicking it will give the impression of snstalling. it was a while ago i did this though. i may well be wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Flaschen" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Installation Process Just Hangs > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:55:36 -0500 From: Matthew Flaschen Subject: Re: disable autocomplete of the home path To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45C7B5E8.7080206 at gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? > > I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like > directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. The shell Zsh acts this way, and has much more powerful and customizable (though I don't think this can be customized) completion behavior. Try it: sudo apt-get install zsh Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Think it was because the bootCD knew more about the drivers. lsmod is your friend. Oh, and obviously, if pppconfig is not in your distro you'll have to connect with the bootCD to get the tarball or whatever package you like. Make sure you choose DNS server option. pppconfig is easy to configure and has a single page, forget the option, which displays and allows user to edit name, phone number, passwd etc. Once you connect(if you connect) check the logs to find out the ip numbers that were involved. pppconfig writes a bunch of files to /etc/ppp(and /etc/resolv,I think), cat those to your favo(u)rite storage medium. Now you got plenty info. Install pppconfig, run the program and check what it does against what it did do. Maxim ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:15:53 +0100 From: Denis Witt Subject: Re: LVM trouble adding new drive To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Felipe Figueiredo schrieb: > Been there. Check if you have a dir /dev/evms, and if you do, > use /dev/evms/hdc1 instead. Thanks for your reply. If i will get in touch with LVM i will try this. Unfortenatly my LVM VG crashed because of incompatibilities with my USB-Drive and the USB-Onboard-Controller. So i'm currently set up the machine again without using LVM. :( Bye for now! ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:17:05 -0500 From: Jeremy J Swarm Subject: Freenet To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170721025.25092.1.camel at serverIke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience with it? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your solution probably lies within the answer to one of these 3 questions. Gilles. Jeremy J Swarm wrote: > I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience > with it? > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chastet? est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070206/8ae7 6d7d/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:46:42 +0000 From: "Oliveiros Cristina" Subject: why mkinitramfs doesn't work? To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear All, I am "desperately" trying to generate a ram drive image for use with a kernel that I've just compiled. But mkinitramfs always insists in returning this message : oliveiros at Machon2:~$ sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-2.6.11-krg-root.img 2.6.11-krg-root W: kernerl 2.6.11-krg-root too old for initramfs on i386 W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.11-krg-root My ubuntu version is 6.06 LTS Can anybody give me a clue to what I might be doing wrong? Any help deeply appreciated Many thanks in advance Kind Regards, Oliveiros -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070206/5035 ef6a/attachment.htm ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 47 ******************************************** From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue Feb 6 18:16:27 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:16:27 -0500 Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702061316.27323.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 13:04, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: > Mine also hung. I figured it out that it doesn't install in SATA HDDs. > > Will Ubuntu ever work in SATA HDDs? > Sure. All the time. What kind of motherboard/SATA controller card to you have? Scott K From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Tue Feb 6 18:28:39 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:28:39 +0100 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker In-Reply-To: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> References: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170786519.5318.3.camel@chronic> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 08:52 -0600, maman durahman wrote: > What the problem and how to solve it? Other dvd can read without > problem with that windowsxp. Hard to say -- in my experience, DVD reading is unreliable between different drives. Does the computer that runs Ubuntu also dualboot to Windows? If so, check if you can read the DVD on the same computer in Windows. I have seen many DVDs that were burnt on computer A in Windows but would not be recognized on computer B in Windows, but on computer C with Linux, and many other scenarios. I think it is mostly a hardware issue. From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 18:35:39 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:35:39 -0500 Subject: ipw3945 troubles on feisty In-Reply-To: <1170785034.5808.18.camel@localhost> References: <1170785034.5808.18.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1170786939.14202.134.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:03 -0500, Matt Price wrote: > hi, > > running a mostly up to date feisty except for a custom kernel (2.6.19, > from ubuntu sources, has restricted-modules package installed, > workedfine till a few days ago), I'm having lots of trouble with my > ipw3945 wireless card. I can still connect to networks but I lose the > connection more often than I usedto and my dmesg is littered with the > following: > > [ 8599.288000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8600.284000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8600.672000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8602.128000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8602.516000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8603.244000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8610.788000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8618.456000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8619.448000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.500000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. > [ 8619.688000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8620.276000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. This caught my eye first... do you have the latest firmware for your wireless? (I had a similar problem with 2100/2200 drivers, and getting an updated firmware image resolved it. > [ > -------- > > ...and so on. the glidepoint issue may be separate -- my pointer works > poorly when ipw3945 is failing like this -- it may have to do with cpu > usage, which skyrockets under these conditions. anyway I wondered > whether anyone else was seeing this issue and what folks had done to > fix it. also where I should report this bug (though since I'm using my > own kernel I suppose the bug would be rejected). > > Thanks, > > Matt > > From funkytwig at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 21:06:08 2007 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:06:08 +0100 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad Message-ID: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> Have spent quite some time looking on net and this seems to be a problem for many people. There are even bugs on lanchpad, one VERY old. Non of there have had much attention, probable cos they have not been assigned to anyone. My first question is who would it be good to assign this to, have had a look around launchpad and cant work out - any ideas. I am also going to outline my problem. DVD burning used to work but I have now upgraded to edgy and it is now impossible. First thing:- ben at chomsky:/etc/udev/rules.d$ cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33 Using libscg version 'debian-0.8debian2'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (debian-0.8debian2 '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). scsibus3: 3,0,0 300) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST3500830A ' '3.AA' Disk 3,1,0 301) * 3,2,0 302) * 3,3,0 303) * 3,4,0 304) * 3,5,0 305) * 3,6,0 306) * 3,7,0 307) * scsibus4: 4,0,0 400) 'USB 2.0 ' 'Storage Device ' '0100' Disk 4,1,0 401) * 4,2,0 402) * 4,3,0 403) * 4,4,0 404) * 4,5,0 405) * 4,6,0 406) * 4,7,0 407) * ben at chomsky:/etc/udev/rules.d$ When I to burn in k3b, gnomebeaker or nautalus I get simeler errore (this includes from room):- Executing 'mkisofs -gui -V GnomeBaker data disk -A GnomeBaker -p Ben Edwards -iso-level 3 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points --path-list /tmp/GnomeBaker-ben/gnomebaker-2AV1MT | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' INFO: UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override. /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 8.2x1385KBps. :-( unable to WRITE at LBA=0h: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error Any ideas? Ben -- Ben Edwards - Brussels, Belgium & Bristol, UK If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Tue Feb 6 22:31:55 2007 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:31:55 +0900 (JST) Subject: to setup exim for mutt Message-ID: <20070206223155.79190.qmail@web2306.mail.yahoo.co.jp> is this: # dpkg-reconfigure --priority high exim4-config the right way in ubuntu? read this at http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ and yes it's debian oriented tia 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Tue Feb 6 22:36:32 2007 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:36:32 +0900 (JST) Subject: switching to low latency kernel Message-ID: <20070206223632.1233.qmail@web2303.mail.yahoo.co.jp> i think i read somewhere that ubuntu already have low latency kernel for people who want to go music creating oriented where is the instruction for that? will i need gcc? or there is already a package for a non-programmer like me? 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 22:52:28 2007 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:52:28 +0100 Subject: switching to low latency kernel In-Reply-To: <20070206223632.1233.qmail@web2303.mail.yahoo.co.jp> References: <20070206223632.1233.qmail@web2303.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: <379ea5900702061452q364f9bf0g41d007c573e6ac9@mail.gmail.com> On 06/02/07, 2g wrote: > or there is already a package for a > non-programmer like me? This was recently discussed on this list. See http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.user&query=musical+workstation I think http://ubuntustudio.org/ will be the thing you're looking for. Regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 6 23:37:09 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:37:09 -0500 Subject: where to put source Message-ID: <1170805029.14202.144.camel@localhost> I guess I'll ask this once more - I've downloaded the source of a package that I want to build a .deb for and submit to Ubuntu for possible inclusion in the repo's. Searching for how this process works in various distro's, I've seen /opt, /usr/local/src, and ~/packages/project_name as places to build from. Does any one here know which is the preferred location? From evangerard at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 23:50:48 2007 From: evangerard at gmail.com (Evan) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:50:48 -0500 Subject: difficulty accessing and finding files in edgy In-Reply-To: <45391f280702060143p4d4e4a98s87f02f7bda8c758d@mail.gmail.com> References: <45C8080F.9080900@btinternet.com> <45391f280702060143p4d4e4a98s87f02f7bda8c758d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You can also "sudo nautilus &". Once in Nautilus press "Control+H" to see the hidden files. You can click to the directory you want and CAREFULLY copy the config file you need to your USB stick. On 2/6/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > On 06/02/07, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > > > > I am having a bit of a problem accessing or finding files in Edgy and > > don't know why some file names show up in Gnome yet some only seem to > > show up in terminal and trying to copy files from terminal refuses to > > work when I need to copy them to my USB stick. > > For example I am having difficulty in setting up Espeak and someone > > asked me if I can copy these config files to him for sorting them out in > > case uncommenting or commenting out lines hasn't worked for example one > > file he needs is speechd.conf which is found under something like > > /etc/speech-dispacher and there was something like one which was > > something to do with espeak.con. > > I tried to look on the desktop for my files knowing the files I wanted > > to find but they are not showing up and using the search for files seems > > to give me no results which is a pain because when I entered the > > terminal, went to my home directory and did ls, sure enough was the etc > > directory which I changed to, I then entered speech-dispacher directory > > and there was at least one of the files I was asked to send. > > However I can't seem to be able to copy these important config files to > > my USB Stick from the terminal for some reason. > > Why am I having this trouble? > > I have tried going into properties and looking at permisions tab to find > > out whether these files are restricted despite me being the only user > > and not a thing could I find which was blocking access to these files > > from the Gnome access which I know does allow me to copy files to my USB > > stick. > > > > Firstly, please a few full stops here and there - I had to read your > question 3 or 4 times to work out what the issue was! > > Secondly, are ARE using a leading slash at the start of pathnames aren't > you? If you look at the directory structure and layout, you'll see that the > etc directory hangs directly off the root of the filesystem and thus it is > referenced as "/etc". Your home directory is further down the filesystem and > so unless you tell your find command to start at "/" it will never find > "/etc" and the files therein. > > Excuse me if you know all of this, but there is no reason why you can't copy > these files out of /etc to your removable media, providing you're specifying > the path to the files correctly. > > -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Wed Feb 7 00:05:42 2007 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:05:42 +0900 (JST) Subject: if am using localized ubuntu ... was Re: switching to low latency kernel In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702061452q364f9bf0g41d007c573e6ac9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070207000542.10589.qmail@web2302.mail.yahoo.co.jp> thanx ubuntustudio might be what am waiting for wonder if i can add it on to noramal ubuntu which i have here .. oh .. what i have is a localized ubuntu by a japanese team at this moment am using ubuntu for daily blogging thangs and puredyne for music only activities gonna get confused if ubuntustudio won't let me use japanese as easily as this localized version does oh! and what i read was this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-November/022755.html can't i simply add this kernel by start something from the [file] menu? > This was recently discussed on this list. See > http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.user&query=musical+workstation > > I think http://ubuntustudio.org/ will be the thing > you're looking for. 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 7 00:13:01 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:13:01 -0500 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad In-Reply-To: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> Ben Edwards wrote: > Have spent quite some time looking on net and this seems to be a > problem for many people. There are even bugs on lanchpad, one VERY > old. Non of there have had much attention, probable cos they have not > been assigned to anyone. > > My first question is who would it be good to assign this to, have had > a look around launchpad and cant work out - any ideas. I would try CDRtools (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+filebug) first. It may be reassigned, but that's a decent start. Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As you can imagine > this is quite frustrating. :( In Kubuntu, go to KDE Control Center, then go to Power Center, then Laptop Battery. You should be able to configure everything there. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I haven`t updated anything until niw and > would like tot do so. > > How can ik create a rescue cd that would let me undo the updating > process and what files do i need to be on that disk? > > I have a seperate /boot partition. > And would like to save user files and e-mails etc.. You should backup all your data (regularly), but that's separate from a rescue CD. You can just use the Live CD to reinstall if necessary. I recommend backing up to a recordable CD or DVD, or a USB drive if you have one. You can search on backups for more information. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 7 00:33:45 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:33:45 -0500 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: <1170745943.30373.42.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1170745943.30373.42.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <45C91E69.5020606@gatech.edu> Chanchao wrote: >> Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu for people without any >> PC experience, ie, your grandmother? And I mean absolutely zippo. > > My mother. She greatly prefers Ubuntu over Windows because the Ubuntu > desktop background shows a picture of her granddaughter. (My 1 year > old. :) Windows on the other hand shows a totally brain-dead grassy > knoll. > > Also she prefers OpenOffice over MS Office because OpenOffice is in her > own language. (For some reason her MS Office install is plain US > English) Sounds like a fair comparison...;) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For example debs shouldn't install files under /usr/local by default and perl modules shouldnt install under /bin etc. There are preferred locations for this kind of stuff but for just unpacking the source to hack around and create a new package, you can put that wherever. Check out the Debian New Maintainers Guide, its still the best source for this kind of info: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ Seth -- Sex is not the original sin, guilt is. From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Wed Feb 7 00:47:37 2007 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:47:37 +0900 (JST) Subject: if am using localized ubuntu ... was Re: switching to low latency kernel In-Reply-To: <45C91AB0.8070605@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070207004737.33020.qmail@web2307.mail.yahoo.co.jp> trying that on my machine but she told me that she couldn't find linux-image-lowlatency maybe i have to do apt-get somethang to update the list of what i can install? sudo apt-get update seemed to update some others --- Matthew Flaschen wrote: > It looks like: > > sudo apt-get install linux-image-lowlatency > 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 00:52:11 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:52:11 +0800 Subject: How to use the cp command to display the copy process by percentage? Message-ID: <212696550702061652s40dfa233lfdf084d06772b702@mail.gmail.com> Can the cp command in linux diskplay the copy process by percentage? That is to say, when I cp a very big file, such as 1G, to another process. How can I use the cp command to display its process in the form of percentage? cp *bigfile* targedirectory 10% 20% .... 100% -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 01:02:43 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:02:43 +0800 Subject: How to use the cp command to display the copy process by percentage? In-Reply-To: <212696550702061652s40dfa233lfdf084d06772b702@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702061652s40dfa233lfdf084d06772b702@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/7/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > Can the cp command in linux diskplay the copy process by percentage? > That is to say, when I cp a very big file, such as 1G, to another process. > How can I use the cp command to display its process in the form of > percentage? > cp *bigfile* targedirectory > 10% > 20% > .... > 100% rsync -Ph [source] [destination] -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Windows > xp cannot read my dvd. > > What the problem and how to solve it? Other dvd can read without > problem with that windowsxp. > > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Wasalam, > Durahman > ===================== > http://durahman.blogspot.com/ > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- ANTONIO FONSECA http://antoniofonseca.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From custom at freenet.de Wed Feb 7 01:34:52 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:34:52 +0700 Subject: ubuntu for a neophyte? In-Reply-To: <45C91E69.5020606@gatech.edu> References: <1170745943.30373.42.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <45C91E69.5020606@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1170812092.18073.9.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 19:33 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > My mother. She greatly prefers Ubuntu over Windows because the Ubuntu > > desktop background shows a picture of her granddaughter. (My 1 year > > old. :) Windows on the other hand shows a totally brain-dead grassy > > knoll. > > > > Also she prefers OpenOffice over MS Office because OpenOffice is in her > > own language. (For some reason her MS Office install is plain US > > English) > > Sounds like a fair comparison...;) Yeah, and you know what: LOADS of people make comparisons because of totally irrelevant or incorrect reasons. :-) Even some software vendors that shall remain unnamed in this post actively spread crap marketing blurb that's actually pretty irrelevant when it comes to operating system.. "Oh sorry mum, videos of your granddaughter only play on Ubuntu, no clue why they don't work on Windows. If you ever get the urge you could google for 'codecs' but honestly it's pretty messy getting the right ones." .... ( Cheers, Chanchao From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Feb 7 01:35:37 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Stops Responding In-Reply-To: <45C92659.5040500@gatech.edu> References: <45C92659.5040500@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702062035.38278.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 8:07:37 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote: > This has happened twice so far. My keyboard has completely stopped > responding, with no warning. I've been able to recover both times by > restarting KDE. The first time I restarted the whole computer. > > Just now, I managed to get xev started (not so easy without typing) and > even it didn't detect any of my keystrokes. Yet, this time I only > logging out and was able to log in (by typing) right away. > > Can anyone speculate what might cause this? It doesn't seem hardware > related, but more likely low-level software. I am using a Dell Inspiron > E1505 with the built-in keyboard on Kubunty Edgy. > > Thanks, > > Matt Flaschen I had this happen a few times and I'm pretty sure it was caused by using an outdate ~/.kde directory, especially when going from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5. The problem was solved when I renamed the directory and let kde rebuild it at login. I then copied only my bookmarks.xml file and mail folders to the newly created ~/.kde directory and the problem didn't recur. I haven't had it happen since upgrading from 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on edgy. I would be curious to know if you could determine what file is getting corrupted. Paul From durahman at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 01:38:01 2007 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:38:01 -0600 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker In-Reply-To: <77b92c640702061716l2cafc7bds61a99c387e9832ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> <77b92c640702061716l2cafc7bds61a99c387e9832ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1365ade30702061738n838d540o7208fc7f9742fd09@mail.gmail.com> Thank you Mario and Antonio for sharing with me. I wish windows can read my dvd. If its not, it's okay. I still have Ubuntu for read my dvd. 2007/2/6, Antonio Fonseca : > It seems that's a problem with hardware, verify if you wrote a multissesion > DVD and left disc open or try to write a new DVD at a lower speed. > > ASF > > > On 2/6/07, maman durahman wrote: > > > > Dear milister, > > Several days ago I made data dvd with gnome bakker. Everithing is oke > > (burn sucesfull and linux can read my dvd created by gnome bakker). > > But problem apear when I try to read the dvd with windowsxp. Windows > > xp cannot read my dvd. > > Wasalam, Durahman ===================== http://durahman.blogspot.com/ From DaveM at Mich.Com Wed Feb 7 01:43:39 2007 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:43:39 -0500 Subject: Backing up to DVD Message-ID: <4.2.2.20070206204125.7d3aa328@pop.mich.com> Since I started using Ubuntu last year, I have been hacking away, trying to figure out how to do system, user and daily backups. To backup my system directories I decided to use mondo. Easy enough, just install it from the repositories using Synaptic and it works. But backing up my user files was another matter. My system usage is too complex and I have too many user files to just throw in a DVD and burn a bunch of directories to it. K3b works great for that. But I need something that can easily do daily incremental backups, verify that the DVD was burned properly and can be scheduled to run automatically, unattended. I also need a high degree of certainty that the files actually get backed up and that the burned DVD's are good. In the Windows world I was using Backup4all. The closest thing I could find in the Linux world was KDar. KDar is an easy to use GUI front-end for Dar. Unfortunately KDar and Dar do not know about DVD's. So I needed some additional utilities and a script to tie them together. What I thought was going to be a simple exercise turned out to be quite complex. Here is an example (see attached) of the BASH script that I have been using to deal with burning Dar slices to my DVD's. This script workd equally well using KDar, Dar with cron or Dar launched from the Gnome menu). This script does the following: o Has an option to make a redundant file for each Dar slice - using Par2, slow but small files (-rP) - using a second copy of the slice, fast but large files (-rC) - using both a second copy and a Par2 file, most redundant (-rB) - redundant file creation can be disabled, fastest burn (-rN) o Burns the slice to the DVD - makes a new file system if the DVD is blank - adds a new session if the DVD already has files on it - if the DVD was blank it adds par2, dares-qt, dar_cp and dar_static. these are small files that could aid in a bare metal restore or with damaged DVD's - adds the log file in case you need it while restoring (if something went wrong) o Has an option to verify the burned DVD - verify the slice files that where just burned, return fail if verify fails (-vY) - re-burn the slice if the verify fails, retry three times before failing (-vR) - verify may be disabled (-vN) o Extracts the catalog from those slices that have catalogs. The extracted catalog is saved to be used as a basis for future differential backups. o Deletes each slice after burning and verification to make room for the next slice. I use the KDar GUI to define my backup job. KDar can run dar and use KDar_BurnSlice (this script) to burn the backup slices to a DVD. Or KDar can be used to make a BASH script that contains a Dar command and then that script can then be used to launch Dar. This is useful in the case where you would like to have cron launch the backup on a scheduled basis or have a one-click menu option to launch your backup. Getting started - I am using Ubuntu and installed my packages using the Synaptic package manager. I installed the following: - Dar - KDar - Par2 - gzip - mkisofs - DVD+RW-Tools (growisofs) - Gnome-Schedule I placed KDar_BurnSlice.sh (this script) in ~/Scripts/ Check to be sure that the script has execute privileges. I made a working directory for my backups, catalogs, logs etc. I use ~/Backup/ and create a sub-directory for each job. For example, ~/Backup/HomeFull/, ~/Backup/HomeDiff/ etc. I also made a directory to save my KDar profiles and KDar scripts. I use ~/KDar/ I run KDar and click the "Create" button. I click through each step to select the directories I wish to back up, the directories to exclude, the file types to exclude and the file types that should not be compressed etc. I use the following settings: - I use the date and time as part of my archive name. For example: HomeDiff_070205-1730 if you plan to export the Dar command script (and launch it with cron or from the menu) then you must add a date command to your archive name so the date changes automatically each time the script is run. For example: HomeDiff_"$(date +%y%m%d-%H%M)" Be sure to include the quotes. Note that this will not work if KDar is used to launch Dar. If you use KDar to run the backup job you must change the date and time manually first. - My root directory (for the backup job) is set to /home - If I am doing a differential backup, I must point KDar to a catalog as my reference point. This can be the catalog from my last full backup, for example: /home/MyUserName/Backup/HomeFull/Cat/HomeFull_070101 or from whatever differential point I choose to use: /home/MyUserName/Backup/HomeDiff/Cat/HomeDiff_070125-1250 I would suggest doing a full backup first. Then do your first series of Diffs based on the catalog from the Full backup. Later Diffs can reference the catalog from an earlier Diff. - As each series of Diff's fills up a DVD (that usually takes me about a month), I change the DVD, do another diff and then I change the reference catalog (in KDar) to my most recent diff catalog. Be sure to export the script and save the profile after changing the reference catalog. The reasoning behind this procedure is that each DVD will then contain all of the files from the previous set of Diff's as well as any new files that changed while I was using that DVD. So each time I change DVD's I will have two copies of my files on two DVD's. One copy is the last diff on the old DVD and the other is the first diff on the new DVD. Just in case a DVD is lost or damaged. - I use KDar "ConfigureCreationOptions" to set up the backup job. o General-ArchiveStorageDir: /home/MyUserName/Backup/HomeDiff/ o General-Logging: Full to /home/MyUserName/KDar/KDar.log o Slicing-SplitArchive-SliceSize: 400Mb if you plan on using parity, 440Mb if not. Since there is a problem with growisofs adding sessions to a DVD when the DVD has 4Gb or more already burned, this will allow you to fully fill a DVD (with 10 slices) when doing large backup jobs. o Slicing-CommandToRun this is where you call the script: /home/MyUserName/Scripts/KDar_BurnSlice.sh %p %b %n %e -rP -vY >> %p/%b.log 2>&1 You can choose the following options for verify and redundancy: -vN (Verify No) -vY (verify Yes) -vR (Verify and re-burn - default) -rN (redundancy No) -rP (redundancy using a parity file, Small files but slow - default) -rC (redundant copy of file, Fast but large files) -rB (Both parity and copy, most redundant) o Compression-Exclude, I exclude the following since they are already compressed: *.*_,*.aac,*.avi,*.bin,*.bz2,*.cab,*.dar,*._dd,*.deb,*.dv,*.exe, *.gif,*.gz,*.iso,*.jpg,*.lzo,*.m4a,*.m4v,*.mov,*.mp3,*.mp4,*.mpg,*.oma, *.ogg,*.par,*.par2,*.pbm,*.pdf,*.png,*.pnm,*.rar,*.rm,*.rm1,*.rpm, *.tgz,*.vmdk,*.wmv,*.Z,*.zip o I dont use Cryptography since I probably couldn't find my key if I did. Of course using this option will depend on your needs. o I exclude Directories and files as needed. In general I exclude all of my media files since I back them up separately. So this option will depend on your needs. o I do not disable or ignore any of the file system options. But this option will depend on your needs too. - Be sure to save the profile that you have just created. Beware, if you click "Finish", KDar will run the backup job! - If you plan on using cron or the menu to run a daily backup, use KDars "SaveProfile-ExportDarCommand" button. Before exporting the Dar command be sure that you have added "$(date +%y%m%d-%H%M)" (including the quotes) to the end of your archive name. If you dont, the name of the diff will be the same each time it is run and the older files (on your DVD) will be hidden by the new session. If your job produces more than one slice, you may end up with slices that have the same name from various backup runs. Which will not be useable. - I save my profiles and dar scripts to my ~/KDar/ directory. I name the scripts HomeFull.sh and HomeDiff.sh To set up an automatic daily backup, I use Gnome-Schedule, which is a GUI for cron, to launch the script. I set up a Recurrent Scheduled Task. I used the 'Advanced' tab to set the schedule. I un-checked the 'No Output' box and used the following command to launch the backup job: /home/MyUserName/KDar/HomeDiff.sh >> /home/MyUserName/KDar/Daily.log 2>&1 I also set up a menu entry for my backup so I can run it whenever I have something importaint to save. I used the Alacarte menu editor to add the following command to my menu. gksudo /home/MyUserName/KDar/HomeDiff.sh >> /home/MyUserName/KDar/Daily.log Note that I needed to use gksudo to run the job as root (if it needs access to all of the files in /home). If you prefer not to use KDar, here is an example of a Dar command that uses this script: $dar -v -c HomeDiff_"$(date +%y%m%d-%H%M)" -R "/home/" -A "HomeDiff_070125-1250" -s 419430400 -D -y -E "KDar_BurnSlice.sh %p %b %n %e >> %p/%b.log 2>&1" I am releasing this under the GPL 3 draft (or later) copyright. So feel free to share, modify fix etc. If you find problems or have suggestions, please let me know at "Davem at Mich dot Com" with "KDar_BurnSlice" in the subject line. If anyone has an idea as to where I should host this script, or would like to volunteer to host this script, please let me know. Maybe the KDar developers could take a look at KDar_BurnSlice and add its functionality to KDar. It would be nice if KDar could burn CD's and DVD's without the use of scripting. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been able to recover both times by >> restarting KDE. The first time I restarted the whole computer. >> >> Just now, I managed to get xev started (not so easy without typing) and >> even it didn't detect any of my keystrokes. Yet, this time I only >> logging out and was able to log in (by typing) right away. >> >> Can anyone speculate what might cause this? It doesn't seem hardware >> related, but more likely low-level software. I am using a Dell Inspiron >> E1505 with the built-in keyboard on Kubunty Edgy. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt Flaschen > > I had this happen a few times and I'm pretty sure it was caused by using an > outdate ~/.kde directory, especially when going from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5. The > problem was solved when I renamed the directory and let kde rebuild it at > login. I then copied only my bookmarks.xml file and mail folders to the > newly created ~/.kde directory and the problem didn't recur. I'll try this, though it may prove an annoyance as I've made various small changes (though I don't use Konqueror or KMail. I haven't had > it happen since upgrading from 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on edgy. Did you upgrade manually? It seems Kubuntu Edgy KDE is still at 3.5.5. By the way, it just happened again (before I read your email) and I noticed they first key that didn't respond was Backspace. I highlighted a block of text with Shift-Down Shift-Right, then hit Backspace. I'm pretty sure I was still holding Shift. It didn't erase the text and no further keys responded until I logged off. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank You, Teri From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 7 01:51:01 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:51:01 -0500 Subject: if am using localized ubuntu ... was Re: switching to low latency kernel In-Reply-To: <20070207004737.33020.qmail@web2307.mail.yahoo.co.jp> References: <20070207004737.33020.qmail@web2307.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: <45C93085.9030109@gatech.edu> 2g wrote: > trying that on my machine but > she told me that > she couldn't find > linux-image-lowlatency > Sorry. I just checked and it's only available for Ubuntu Feisty. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A couple of months back, after I noticed my remaining hard drive space disappearing at a rapid rate, (quelle suprise!) someone here kindly suggested deleting them, and I've been deleting them more or less bi-weekly ever since using the following sequence: open the file browser and a terminal cd sudo chown me:me * #change owner from root to me! sudo chmod 777 * #change file properties rm * #delete those suckers cd .. #move up one level rmdir # hit UpArrow key 6x to move back through recent history, followed by BACKSPACE to clear previous subdirectory... # repeat ... x28 approximately. I realize that this more than likely qualifies for some sort of Kludge Award, but for the time being, I'm happy enough to do this chore manually in part because of a healthy fear of running commands like "rm *" unattended in some bash script, and in part because I just seem to do things that way. But I can imagine the chore-yness increasing to a point eventually where I'm substantially more keen to let the computer take care of the chore. I'm stumped by how I get a bash script to recycle a command history, however, and assuming A Better Way exists, what form it might take. An alternate and probably sounder stategy, to track down the originating backup sequence and modify it so that it asks me to insert a cd for copying at appropriate intervals, unfortunately remains well beyond my current abilities. I'm using an up-to-date Edgy on a more or less generic box. Everything's cool, otherwise. Any ideas or recommendations gratefully received. From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Wed Feb 7 04:20:21 2007 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:20:21 +0900 (JST) Subject: if am using localized ubuntu ... was Re: switching to low latency kernel In-Reply-To: <45C93085.9030109@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070207042021.6481.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.co.jp> oh then i can wait till the japanese_localized Feisty comes out i 0 ubuntu i wonder if low latency will become the default kernel by then... if not why? what's negative about the low latency for normal users? --- Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Sorry. I just checked and it's only available for > Ubuntu Feisty. > 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ From martin at autotelic.com Wed Feb 7 05:17:50 2007 From: martin at autotelic.com (Dave M G) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:17:50 +0900 Subject: Is there some default volume setting? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <20070206210354.936f3dc9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45C8455B.6010907@autotelic.com> <20070206210354.936f3dc9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45C960FE.1020505@autotelic.com> Peter, Thank you for responding. > sudo alsactl store That did the trick. Thanks for the concise solution! -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 From prajshetty at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 06:00:25 2007 From: prajshetty at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:30:25 +0530 Subject: Enter superuser mode-problem Message-ID: <69a159a50702062200o7428f80fn672f705ec3f0f4d0@mail.gmail.com> have installed XUbuntu Desktop 6.10. I have problem in Ubuntu. I cannot enter super user mode(in spite of giving correct passwd). $su password: Authentication failed. But it same passwd is accepted in case of a other GUI based application( like change date &time) Please help Thanks Pushparaj -- Department of MACS National Institute of Technology Karnataka, Surathkal PO Srinivasnagar Mangalore-575025 From rvernica at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 06:18:35 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:18:35 -0800 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Peter Garrett wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:15:05 -0800 > Rares Vernica wrote: > >> In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is >> replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like >> to turn this feature off. Is it possible? > > I'm intrigued - why would you want to turn this off ? > > Peter > I know where my home is, I don't need to see it every time. Moreover, it takes space on the line. Ray From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Wed Feb 7 06:19:11 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 01:19:11 -0500 Subject: How to make a soundblaster live my main sound card Message-ID: <20070207061911.GA12455@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I would like to be able to specify that my soundblaster live be the main sound card on my computer. Currently, the onboard chip is the one that is detected first, which makes it card 0, but I want it to be card 1. Note that I don't want to disable it entirely. Is there a special way I can do this? Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFyW9fG9IpekrhBfIRAmAtAJ9pulJVu+E2TaPIXVGiGwAEl4M3lACfZY0m bBQH/Ecf7R7GjsCmHuSa6r4= =14zs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rvernica at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 06:20:00 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:20:00 -0800 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: <45C7B5E8.7080206@gatech.edu> References: <45C7B5E8.7080206@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is >> replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like >> to turn this feature off. Is it possible? >> >> I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like >> directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. > > The shell Zsh acts this way, and has much more powerful and customizable > (though I don't think this can be customized) completion behavior. > > Try it: > > sudo apt-get install zsh > > Matthew Flaschen > > I don't feel so comfortable changing the shell. I remember in the previous versions of Ubuntu (e.g., 5.10) this feature was not present. Why it is now? I think I am missing something here. Thanks a lot, Ray From rvernica at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 06:21:52 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:21:52 -0800 Subject: dual boot - xp behaves strange In-Reply-To: <4ipj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <9becf9a00701162010q4371e946n307c36272d2038c0@mail.gmail.com> <20070119092241.GA3965@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20070120215027.GG3966@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45B72FBF.7020009@bresnan.net> <4ipj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I managed to solve it. >> >> I just removed the "makeactive" line from the Windows XP boot section in >> the Grub config file. >> >> It works now. >> > Whatever works! That's odd, since I though it _should_ be active, but if it > ain't broke, don't fix it :-) I don't think the windows partition needs to be active. By setting it active, the Ubuntu partition, on which Grub is, becomes inactive and so my problem. Thanks, Ray From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 7 06:32:29 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:32:29 +1100 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: References: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20070207173229.8d8c2d5b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:18:35 -0800 Rares Vernica wrote: > I know where my home is, I don't need to see it every time. Moreover, it > takes space on the line. Ah - I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to disable " ~ " being a shortcut for $HOME, but I now understand that you just do not want to see the path when you hit :-) Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 7 06:46:37 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:46:37 +1100 Subject: Enter superuser mode-problem In-Reply-To: <69a159a50702062200o7428f80fn672f705ec3f0f4d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <69a159a50702062200o7428f80fn672f705ec3f0f4d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070207174637.de4cdbbf.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:30:25 +0530 "Pushparaj Shetty" wrote: > have problem in Ubuntu. I cannot enter super user mode(in > spite of giving correct passwd). > $su > password: > > Authentication failed. Ubuntu uses "sudo" . To get a root shell type sudo -i Type "exit" or use ctrl + D to exit the root shell. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo Peter From grey at dmiyu.org Wed Feb 7 08:12:57 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:12:57 -0800 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > In Kubuntu, go to KDE Control Center, then go to Power Center, then > Laptop Battery. You should be able to configure everything there. Doesn't appear to be the case in 6.10. First off finding kcontrol was a chore since it isn't in the K menu by default. Only thing there was "System Settings" which mirrors what the OSX setup looks like. Blech. No power settings there. Found kcontrol from the CLI, ran it, no power settings there, either. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? 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A couple of months back, after I noticed my > remaining hard drive space disappearing at a rapid rate, (quelle > suprise!) someone here kindly suggested deleting them, and I've been > deleting them more or less bi-weekly ever since using the following > sequence... Check your crontabs, and entries in /etc/cron.*. There's likely a script, installed with the backup, that eats your space. Crontabs come in two varieties: user-related and system-related. User crontabs are most easily checked like: crontab -e root The system-related ones live in /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.hourly, and so on. Look first: somethings NEED to be there. Don't just go dumping anything you see, that'll cause problems. (All this is not specific to any release, I don't believe.) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyZTq6PLtRzZbdhYRAqikAJ9wQowhOFNrH7Wvc7A/XPVko5YZHQCeNAu8 cuQcooUfhnMOY3yRqo5gqLM= =TuXx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chanweiyee at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 09:08:55 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:08:55 +0800 Subject: Reconstructor - Build Your Own Ubuntu Message-ID: <45C99727.5060506@gmail.com> Reconstructor is an Ubuntu GNU/Linux CD Creator. It uses the Desktop(Live), Alternate(Install), or Server disc as a base, and then allows for user customization. For the Ubuntu Desktop base, you can customize the entire environment. For instance, you can add/remove software, change the default look (splash, themes, fonts, wallpaper, etc.), add desktop links, etc. For the Alternate and Server bases, you can add any additional software to the disc that you would like installed. Reconstructor is written in python and is licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=37 Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's cheaper than a new PC Like many of you on this list, I've grown tired of dual booting, and really just want to boot Ubuntu. But, there are several apps I probably won't be able to replace for some time. So, I also want is to be able to run XP in a virtual machine under Ubuntu. It finally appears thats there's a way to do this. I haven't tried this yet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say about it. If you read digg or reddit, please vote this up so it can reach a larger audience. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Run_Your_Existing_Windows_Installation_on_Ubuntu_with_Vmware_Player direct link http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 09:51:42 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:51:42 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? Message-ID: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME panel. How to recover it? -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 10:01:48 2007 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:01:48 +0100 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0702070201o6d1c5f28le5d742069d02c87a@mail.gmail.com> Find the launcher in the menu and right-click on it. Then "add to panel". Cheers, Rutger On 2/7/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME panel. > How to recover it? > > -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Wed Feb 7 10:04:26 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:04:26 +0200 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> zhihang wang wrote: > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME panel. > How to recover it? Hi there, you can either right-click on the panel and choose Add to Panel, under which you should go to Application Launcher sub-menu. There you are shown the whole Applications menu, from which you can drag'n'drop the icons in place or choose them and hit Add button on the low right. Or, just simply go to Applications menu (alt+F1) and right-click on wanted icons, and choose 'Add this launcher to Panel' option. Hope these work for you. :) -- Jaska From sergicles at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 10:08:39 2007 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:08:39 +1100 Subject: local deb mirror Message-ID: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Can anybody suggest any pros and cons of having a local (private) deb mirror for a small home (~6 machines) network? Thanks -- Serg From funkytwig at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 10:21:53 2007 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:21:53 +0100 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad In-Reply-To: <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> On 07/02/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Ben Edwards wrote: > > Have spent quite some time looking on net and this seems to be a > > problem for many people. There are even bugs on lanchpad, one VERY > > old. Non of there have had much attention, probable cos they have not > > been assigned to anyone. > > > > My first question is who would it be good to assign this to, have had > > a look around launchpad and cant work out - any ideas. > > I would try CDRtools > (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+filebug) first. It may > be reassigned, but that's a decent start. I can not assign the bur to CDRtools (or cdrtools) . (u'ubuntu_dvd+rw-tools.assignee', u'Assigned to', Assignee not found) Also if I click on (Choose…) link in the 'Assign to' section and enter and try to look for 'Person or Team' to assign the bug to there is nothing that looks any good with 'cdr' in the title. Help! Ben > Matt Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Ben Edwards - Brussels, Belgium & Bristol, UK If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From ttmrichter at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 10:26:59 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:26:59 +0800 Subject: local deb mirror In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170844019.7929.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-07-02 at 21:08 +1100, Serg B. wrote: > Can anybody suggest any pros and cons of having a local (private) deb > mirror for a small home (~6 machines) network? I have three machines and use a local mirror. Specifically I use the "debmirror" package from universe. The pros are: * You download the repositories once at Internet speeds then distribute internally at LAN speeds. This means that a big update (like the recent libc++ one) is spread around your machines far more quickly and at lower external bandwidth costs. * If your Internet feed goes down (this is a common occurrence here in China -- YMMV), you can still add packages to your local machines. * It makes system reinstallations (like I just had to do with an Edgy "upgrade" -- though I'm not sure that word is properly applied) go far faster. The cons are: * It's not exactly disk space cheap. A full mirror costs close to 200GB. My partial mirror (Edgy and Dapper, i386 only) takes up most of my 80GB external drive. * That first download? Is a doozy! (Earthquakes in Taiwan that cut international feeds don't help any either, let me tell you....) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 2/7/07, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > > zhihang wang wrote: > > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME > panel. > > How to recover it? > > Hi there, > > you can either right-click on the panel and choose Add to Panel, under > which > you should go to Application Launcher sub-menu. There you are shown the > whole Applications menu, from which you can drag'n'drop the icons in place > or choose them and hit Add button on the low right. Or, just simply go to > Applications menu (alt+F1) and right-click on wanted icons, and choose > 'Add > this launcher to Panel' option. > > Hope these work for you. :) > > > -- > Jaska > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Feb 7 10:39:35 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 05:39:35 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Stops Responding In-Reply-To: <45C92EC5.3010309@gatech.edu> References: <45C92659.5040500@gatech.edu> <200702062035.38278.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <45C92EC5.3010309@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702070539.36001.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 8:43:33 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Paul Kaplan wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 8:07:37 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> This has happened twice so far. My keyboard has completely stopped > >> responding, with no warning. I've been able to recover both times by > >> restarting KDE. The first time I restarted the whole computer. > >> > >> Just now, I managed to get xev started (not so easy without typing) and > >> even it didn't detect any of my keystrokes. Yet, this time I only > >> logging out and was able to log in (by typing) right away. > >> > >> Can anyone speculate what might cause this? It doesn't seem hardware > >> related, but more likely low-level software. I am using a Dell Inspiron > >> E1505 with the built-in keyboard on Kubunty Edgy. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Matt Flaschen > > > > I had this happen a few times and I'm pretty sure it was caused by using > > an outdate ~/.kde directory, especially when going from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5. > > The problem was solved when I renamed the directory and let kde rebuild > > it at login. I then copied only my bookmarks.xml file and mail folders > > to the newly created ~/.kde directory and the problem didn't recur. > > I'll try this, though it may prove an annoyance as I've made various > small changes (though I don't use Konqueror or KMail. > > I haven't had > > > it happen since upgrading from 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on edgy. > > Did you upgrade manually? It seems Kubuntu Edgy KDE is still at 3.5.5. Yes although the problem only occurred in Dapper going from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5 > > By the way, it just happened again (before I read your email) and I > noticed they first key that didn't respond was Backspace. I highlighted > a block of text with Shift-Down Shift-Right, then hit Backspace. I'm > pretty sure I was still holding Shift. It didn't erase the text and no > further keys responded until I logged off. In my case, no keys responded, so I wasn't even able to log off. My only way out was to (metaphorically) yank the plug and then reboot. Paul From chanweiyee at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 10:50:22 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:50:22 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> zhihang wang wrote: > But there is not the firefox icon in the *Application Launcher* > sub-menu. I use > sudo apt-get remove firefox > to remove the firefox 1.0.9 and I installed the firefox 2.0. > Now I can use the firefox 2.0 by > >firefox > But I can't find the icon in the Application Launcher. > See if this works: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Firefox Comment=Firefox Exec=firefox %u Icon=firefox.png Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Network; Save the file. sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/evolution.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Evolution Comment=Evolution Exec=Exec=evolution- Icon=evolution- Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Network; Then save the file and restart Gnome or simply reboot your computer. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So I hand-edited my xorg.conf file to add the appropriate driver and gave up on the internal sound card again. After all I still have my external sound card, right? Wrong. Apparently there's been a regression in the USB Sound Blaster support. And it's a particularly strange one. Rhythmbox (and only Rhythmbox) can play sound out the external sound card. Absolutely nothing else can. I don't get the startup sound, the login sound, the logout sound, sound events from GAIM, etc. etc. etc. Oh, and this only if I go into System->Preferences->Sound and switch it from "Autodetect" (or "ALSA" under Sound Capture) to "USB Audio" on the Devices tab. Oh, and I get the test tones from "Sound Playback" on the Sound Events, Music and Movies and Audio Conferencing sections. Again only if I specify "USB Audio", though. Sound Capture, no matter what the setting, generates this error: "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing." The rest, when "Autodetect" is set, generate this instead: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing." So I can listen to music, but I can't do much else. (Like, it seems, listen to the audio in movies. But more on that below.) Now something odd shows up that I only caught by accident. When I run a GNOME app in a shell, say gedit, I get some pretty bizarre verbiage: $ gedit ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device ALSA lib confmisc.c:391:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device ALSA lib confmisc.c:1070:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device ALSA lib conf.c:3947:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device ALSA lib pcm.c:2146:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default I found this by accident. I'm sure that the system is trying to tell me something, but I can't make heads nor tails of it. It seems to be trying to open "card 0" and not finding it. This is no surprise since there is no card0 in /proc/asound. It's called card1 there for some reason. $ ll total 1.0K dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 card1/ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 cards -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 devices -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 hwdep -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 modules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2007-02-07 19:42 MP3 -> card1/ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 oss/ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 pcm dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 seq/ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 timers -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-07 19:42 version $ cat cards 1 [MP3 ]: USB-Audio - Sound Blaster MP3+ Creative Labs Sound Blaster MP3+ at usb-0000:00:03.3-7.1, full speed I'm guessing that this is why audio is so unstable for me. How would I go about getting ALSA to look at card 1 or rename card 1 to card 0? This leaves me with my final problem. I have a lot of AVIs encoded in, it turns out, DivX5 format. I've downloaded all the gstreamer packages from main,restricted,universe,multiverse and I've downloaded the Win32 codecs and have them installed. Not a single one of my video applications can read the files, however. This despite the fact that I was watching those very same files under Dapper only two or three nights ago. Which of the codec packages did I miss and where would I go looking for it/them? (I did a google on "DivX 5 Ubuntu" and on "Xvid codec Ubuntu" but got nothing heartening. A lot of "we do not support this"-style messages or pointers to codecs I already have installed. And I know that this was supported not all that long ago given that I, as I said, used to watch these movies.) So I'm stuck here with two outstanding questions: 1. How do I get ALSA to look in the right place, or to name the USB card properly? 2. How do I get my DivX5-encoded movies working under Ubuntu? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000711-0, 2007-02-06 Tested on: 2007-02-07 06:57:59 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com Wed Feb 7 12:01:08 2007 From: amarnath1.srinivasan at ge.com (Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant)) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:31:08 +0530 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 53 References: Message-ID: On Tuesday 06 February 2007 13:04, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: > Mine also hung. I figured it out that it doesn't install in SATA HDDs. > > Will Ubuntu ever work in SATA HDDs? > Sure. All the time. What kind of motherboard/SATA controller card to you have? Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- The SATA controller is Intel(R) 82801 GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA storage controller-- 27C0 I just copied it from the machine. Regards Amarnath Srinivasan -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:02 AM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 53 Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Installation Process Just Hangs (Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant)) 2. Re: Installation Process Just Hangs (Scott Kitterman) 3. Re: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker (Mario Vukelic) 4. Re: ipw3945 troubles on feisty (John Dangler) 5. Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad (Ben Edwards) 6. to setup exim for mutt (2g) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:34:46 +0530 From: "Srinivasan, Amarnath1 \(GE, Corporate, consultant\)" Subject: Installation Process Just Hangs To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mine also hung. I figured it out that it doesn't install in SATA HDDs. Will Ubuntu ever work in SATA HDDs? Regards Amarnath Srinivasan -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:17 AM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 47 Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: disable autocomplete of the home path (Peter Garrett) 2. Re: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) (Eric Dunbar) 3. Re: Installation Process Just Hangs (Trevor Nye) 4. Re: disable autocomplete of the home path (Matthew Flaschen) 5. Re: Establishing a dial up connection with Ubuntu 6.10 (maxim wexler) 6. Re: LVM trouble adding new drive (Denis Witt) 7. Freenet (Jeremy J Swarm) 8. Re: Freenet (Gilles Gravier) 9. why mkinitramfs doesn't work? (Oliveiros Cristina) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:32:18 +1100 From: Peter Garrett Subject: Re: disable autocomplete of the home path To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:15:05 -0800 Rares Vernica wrote: > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? I'm intrigued - why would you want to turn this off ? Peter ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:34:45 -0500 From: "Eric Dunbar" Subject: Re: VMware and physical drives (was Re: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP) To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <77520bee0702051434j2c6169c1r35334030e4c9f850 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > Well, I managed to get my Linux back by using grub-install and > > over-writing the windows boot loader but this means I've now lost the > > windows partition that I just installed. > > No you didn't. You just need a "chainloader" entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst. > There _should_ be one there, that's commented out, but if there isn't, put > this in there (the "hd0,0" option to "root" means the first partition of > the first hard drive - adjust if necessary). Nothing else is necessary, > just reboot. > > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS > # on /dev/sda1 > title Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1 I do have a chainloader entry in the grub menu but, when I select it it actually displays the last few lines you wrote above and goes right back into the grub menu ;-). Thanks for your thoughts -- I'll have to play with it in a few days when I have time (provided I have the discipline to stay away from the computer ;-). Eric. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 23:27:42 +0100 From: "Trevor Nye" Subject: Re: Installation Process Just Hangs To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <003001c74975$d0362880$0600000a at mcetest> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If my memory is right you can view the cd from windows. the install icon will be on the ubuntu screen and clicking it will give the impression of snstalling. it was a while ago i did this though. i may well be wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Flaschen" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Installation Process Just Hangs > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:55:36 -0500 From: Matthew Flaschen Subject: Re: disable autocomplete of the home path To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45C7B5E8.7080206 at gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? > > I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like > directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. The shell Zsh acts this way, and has much more powerful and customizable (though I don't think this can be customized) completion behavior. Try it: sudo apt-get install zsh Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Think it was because the bootCD knew more about the drivers. lsmod is your friend. Oh, and obviously, if pppconfig is not in your distro you'll have to connect with the bootCD to get the tarball or whatever package you like. Make sure you choose DNS server option. pppconfig is easy to configure and has a single page, forget the option, which displays and allows user to edit name, phone number, passwd etc. Once you connect(if you connect) check the logs to find out the ip numbers that were involved. pppconfig writes a bunch of files to /etc/ppp(and /etc/resolv,I think), cat those to your favo(u)rite storage medium. Now you got plenty info. Install pppconfig, run the program and check what it does against what it did do. Maxim ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:15:53 +0100 From: Denis Witt Subject: Re: LVM trouble adding new drive To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Felipe Figueiredo schrieb: > Been there. Check if you have a dir /dev/evms, and if you do, > use /dev/evms/hdc1 instead. Thanks for your reply. If i will get in touch with LVM i will try this. Unfortenatly my LVM VG crashed because of incompatibilities with my USB-Drive and the USB-Onboard-Controller. So i'm currently set up the machine again without using LVM. :( Bye for now! ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:17:05 -0500 From: Jeremy J Swarm Subject: Freenet To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170721025.25092.1.camel at serverIke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience with it? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your solution probably lies within the answer to one of these 3 questions. Gilles. Jeremy J Swarm wrote: > I can't seem to get freenet working. does anyone here have experience > with it? > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chastet? est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20070206/8ae7 6d7d/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:46:42 +0000 From: "Oliveiros Cristina" Subject: why mkinitramfs doesn't work? To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear All, I am "desperately" trying to generate a ram drive image for use with a kernel that I've just compiled. But mkinitramfs always insists in returning this message : oliveiros at Machon2:~$ sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-2.6.11-krg-root.img 2.6.11-krg-root W: kernerl 2.6.11-krg-root too old for initramfs on i386 W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.11-krg-root My ubuntu version is 6.06 LTS Can anybody give me a clue to what I might be doing wrong? Any help deeply appreciated Many thanks in advance Kind Regards, Oliveiros -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott K ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:28:39 +0100 From: Mario Vukelic Subject: Re: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170786519.5318.3.camel at chronic> Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 08:52 -0600, maman durahman wrote: > What the problem and how to solve it? Other dvd can read without > problem with that windowsxp. Hard to say -- in my experience, DVD reading is unreliable between different drives. Does the computer that runs Ubuntu also dualboot to Windows? If so, check if you can read the DVD on the same computer in Windows. I have seen many DVDs that were burnt on computer A in Windows but would not be recognized on computer B in Windows, but on computer C with Linux, and many other scenarios. I think it is mostly a hardware issue. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:35:39 -0500 From: John Dangler Subject: Re: ipw3945 troubles on feisty To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1170786939.14202.134.camel at localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:03 -0500, Matt Price wrote: > hi, > > running a mostly up to date feisty except for a custom kernel (2.6.19, > from ubuntu sources, has restricted-modules package installed, > workedfine till a few days ago), I'm having lots of trouble with my > ipw3945 wireless card. I can still connect to networks but I lose the > connection more often than I usedto and my dmesg is littered with the > following: > > [ 8599.288000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8600.284000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8600.672000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8601.132000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8602.128000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8602.516000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8602.972000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8603.244000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8610.788000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8618.456000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Error Reply type 0x00000005 cmd LEDS_CMD (0x48) seq 0x040A ser 0x004A0000 > [ 8619.404000] ipw3945: Can't stop Rx DMA. > [ 8619.448000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.480000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 > [ 8619.500000] psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched. > [ 8619.688000] ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (11 802.11bg channels, 13 802.11a channels) > [ 8620.276000] ipw3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting. This caught my eye first... do you have the latest firmware for your wireless? (I had a similar problem with 2100/2200 drivers, and getting an updated firmware image resolved it. > [ > -------- > > ...and so on. the glidepoint issue may be separate -- my pointer works > poorly when ipw3945 is failing like this -- it may have to do with cpu > usage, which skyrockets under these conditions. anyway I wondered > whether anyone else was seeing this issue and what folks had done to > fix it. also where I should report this bug (though since I'm using my > own kernel I suppose the bug would be rejected). > > Thanks, > > Matt > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:06:08 +0100 From: "Ben Edwards" Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Have spent quite some time looking on net and this seems to be a problem for many people. There are even bugs on lanchpad, one VERY old. Non of there have had much attention, probable cos they have not been assigned to anyone. My first question is who would it be good to assign this to, have had a look around launchpad and cant work out - any ideas. I am also going to outline my problem. DVD burning used to work but I have now upgraded to edgy and it is now impossible. First thing:- ben at chomsky:/etc/udev/rules.d$ cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33 Using libscg version 'debian-0.8debian2'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (debian-0.8debian2 '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). scsibus3: 3,0,0 300) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST3500830A ' '3.AA' Disk 3,1,0 301) * 3,2,0 302) * 3,3,0 303) * 3,4,0 304) * 3,5,0 305) * 3,6,0 306) * 3,7,0 307) * scsibus4: 4,0,0 400) 'USB 2.0 ' 'Storage Device ' '0100' Disk 4,1,0 401) * 4,2,0 402) * 4,3,0 403) * 4,4,0 404) * 4,5,0 405) * 4,6,0 406) * 4,7,0 407) * ben at chomsky:/etc/udev/rules.d$ When I to burn in k3b, gnomebeaker or nautalus I get simeler errore (this includes from room):- Executing 'mkisofs -gui -V GnomeBaker data disk -A GnomeBaker -p Ben Edwards -iso-level 3 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points --path-list /tmp/GnomeBaker-ben/gnomebaker-2AV1MT | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' INFO: UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override. /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 8.2x1385KBps. :-( unable to WRITE at LBA=0h: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error Any ideas? Ben -- Ben Edwards - Brussels, Belgium & Bristol, UK If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:31:55 +0900 (JST) From: 2g Subject: to setup exim for mutt To: ubuntu ubuntu Message-ID: <20070206223155.79190.qmail at web2306.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp is this: # dpkg-reconfigure --priority high exim4-config the right way in ubuntu? read this at http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ and yes it's debian oriented tia 2g----- http://micro.ispretty.com -------------------------------------- Start Yahoo! Auction now! Check out the cool campaign http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/auction/ ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 53 ******************************************** From ubuntu at kitterman.com Wed Feb 7 12:26:52 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:26:52 -0500 Subject: SATA HDDs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702070726.52443.ubuntu@kitterman.com> PLEASE - Do not reply with the entire digest message appended. Also there is not need to send me a message directly, I read the list. On Wednesday 07 February 2007 07:01, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 13:04, Srinivasan, Amarnath1 (GE, Corporate, > > consultant) wrote: > > Mine also hung. I figured it out that it doesn't install in SATA HDDs. > > > > Will Ubuntu ever work in SATA HDDs? > > Sure. All the time. > > What kind of motherboard/SATA controller card to you have? > > Scott > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > The SATA controller is Intel(R) 82801 GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA > storage controller-- 27C0 > > I just copied it from the machine. > > Regards > > Amarnath Srinivasan > And what kind of motherboard? I have machines with Intel D945 motherboards and I had problems installing to a SATA HDD if there was also a PATA HDD (solution was to unplug the PATA HDD, do the install, and then plug it back in). The only Linux kernels that support the jMicron PATA controller in Intel D965 motherboards are 2.6.19 and above (i.e. only the Feisty developmental releases support this). The solution here is to run with no PATA or ATAPI devices (meaning have a SATA or USB CD/DVD). Ubuntu has installed just fine in SATA for a long time, but there are other, motherboard and controller specific, issues that can cause problems that may appear to be SATA related. Scott K From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Feb 7 12:56:46 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:56:46 +0000 Subject: Upgrade to Edgy causes much laptop grief: sound and video format hell. In-Reply-To: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45C9CC8E.9030806@yandex.ru> Michael T. Richter wrote: > So I'm stuck here with two outstanding questions: > 1. How do I get ALSA to look in the right place, or to name the USB card > properly? Don't know, sorry . > 2. How do I get my DivX5-encoded movies working under Ubuntu? > I can recommend VLC for videos, it's so good that it all I use on OS X From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Feb 7 12:59:30 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:59:30 +0000 Subject: local deb mirror In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9CD32.5080106@yandex.ru> Serg B. wrote: > Hi All, > > Can anybody suggest any pros and cons of having a local (private) deb > mirror for a small home (~6 machines) network? > > > Thanks > Why not have the benefits of a local mirror without the disadvantage of storing 200GB of data? Use apt-proxy or apt-cacher, perfectly suited for this situation. Only the files that are needed by a machine are downloaded, and then they are stored. Then all the files only get downloaded once. I found that after a year my apt-cacher cache had only grown to less than 2gb. Perfect! From arzajac at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 13:00:34 2007 From: arzajac at gmail.com (Andrew Zajac) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:00:34 -0500 Subject: Help with ES1868 sound card In-Reply-To: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> References: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65241ce50702070500y3aea2f64qf01ee6dc60a6ce74@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/07, Teri wrote: > I am brand new to Ubuntu and Linux. I played around with other distros > but like Ubuntu best. I've got everything set up the way I want with > the exception of my sound card. Ubuntu doesn't think I have one. The > only distro that found it was Puppy Linux and I didn't like it. Could > someone please tell me how to download and install the driver. I found > the driver on the ALSA site but being new to Linux I'm not sure how to > download and install it. I plan to learn to do all kinds of stuff in > Linux myself but I would really like to get the soundcard working so I > can listen to music while I learn. Any help is appreciated. > sudo modprobe snd-es18xx see here for complete details: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards From tchize at myrealbox.com Wed Feb 7 13:08:41 2007 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (tchize) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:08:41 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to Edgy causes much laptop grief: sound and video format hell. In-Reply-To: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45C9CF59.5000908@myrealbox.com> En l'instant précis du 02/07/07 12:49, Michael T. Richter s'exprimait en ces termes: > This leaves me with my final problem. I have a lot of AVIs encoded in, > it turns out, DivX5 format. I've downloaded all the gstreamer packages > mmm gstreamer? why not xine? If am not wrong, edgy eft use xine not gstreamer, by default, no? Also, vlc comes with a few deconding libraries that other video reader use (i had that problem under dapper, installing vls installed also all required codecs) If am not wrong, for decoding divx, xine uses ffmpeg decoder. > from main,restricted,universe,multiverse and I've downloaded the Win32 > codecs and have them installed. Not a single one of my video > applications can read the files, however. This despite the fact that I > was watching those very same files under Dapper only two or three nights > ago. Which of the codec packages did I miss and where would I go > looking for it/them? (I did a google on "DivX 5 Ubuntu" and on "Xvid > codec Ubuntu" but got nothing heartening. A lot of "we do not support > this"-style messages or pointers to codecs I already have installed. > And I know that this was supported not all that long ago given that I, > as I said, used to watch these movies.) > > So I'm stuck here with two outstanding questions: > 1. How do I get ALSA to look in the right place, or to name the USB card > properly? > You'll have to lookl at alsa doc, you can give a specific number to each sound device. It's very used when you have an usb webcam coming with a integrated microphone. Depending on where the usb cam is plugged or not at startup, the device 0 is the cam or the integrated peripheral. a good doc on /etc/asound.conf is here http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php > 2. How do I get my DivX5-encoded movies working under Ubuntu? > > From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 13:06:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:06:17 -0400 Subject: Enter superuser mode-problem References: <69a159a50702062200o7428f80fn672f705ec3f0f4d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9fvo94-t5m.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > have installed XUbuntu Desktop 6.10. > > I have problem in Ubuntu. I cannot enter super user mode(in > spite of giving correct passwd). > $su > password: > > Authentication failed. > > But it same passwd is accepted in case of a other GUI based > application( like change date &time) None of those GUI apps are using "su" either, so the problem is that they _don't_ take the same password. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 13:07:16 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:07:16 -0400 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path References: <20070206093218.a33c58f3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4hvo94-t5m.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Rares Vernica wrote: > Peter Garrett wrote: >> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:15:05 -0800 >> Rares Vernica wrote: >> >>> In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is >>> replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like >>> to turn this feature off. Is it possible? >> >> I'm intrigued - why would you want to turn this off ? > > I know where my home is, I don't need to see it every time. Moreover, it > takes space on the line. > I agree. I'm _certain_ it didn't used to be that way, and I find it annoying too. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 13:29:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:29:56 -0400 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> Message-ID: mtyoung wrote: > This is (IMHO) the Holy Grail for winning converts to Linux. Much as I'm trying to do this, I really don't think it's a Holy Grail. If you make it possible to use the old system, you don't get much conversion. > Image a small business dedicated to adding a new hard drive and Ubuntu > (fully loaded with codecs of course) to people's old PCs with Windows, > and giving them an easy migration path. It's cheaper than a new PC > > Like many of you on this list, I've grown tired of dual booting, and > really just want to boot Ubuntu. But, there are several apps I probably > won't be able to replace for some time. So, I also want is to be able to > run XP in a virtual machine under Ubuntu. > > It finally appears thats there's a way to do this. > > I haven't tried this yet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say > about it. I have, I couldn't figure out how to do it purely with VMPlayer, and I am having trouble installing VMWare-server (it says there's already an installation, which there isn't and never has been) > > If you read digg or reddit, please vote this up so it can reach a larger > audience. > >http://digg.com/linux_unix/Run_Your_Existing_Windows_Installation_on_Ubuntu_with_Vmware_Player What is it with "digg" and VMWare? I'd never even heard of digg until I started googling for vmware stuff, and now practically every link is via digg. Anyway, the article looks pretty good, but almost useless for me :-( It will only work for IDE drives. SATA drives are a more awkward beast. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 13:08:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:08:18 -0400 Subject: dual boot - xp behaves strange References: <9becf9a00701162010q4371e946n307c36272d2038c0@mail.gmail.com> <20070119092241.GA3965@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20070120215027.GG3966@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45B72FBF.7020009@bresnan.net> <4ipj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <2jvo94-t5m.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Rares Vernica wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Rares Vernica wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I managed to solve it. >>> >>> I just removed the "makeactive" line from the Windows XP boot section in >>> the Grub config file. >>> >>> It works now. >>> >> Whatever works! That's odd, since I though it _should_ be active, but if >> it ain't broke, don't fix it :-) > > I don't think the windows partition needs to be active. By setting it > active, the Ubuntu partition, on which Grub is, becomes inactive and so > my problem. > No, Ubuntu doesn't need to be "active" either. -- derek From ttmrichter at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 13:26:10 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:26:10 +0800 Subject: local deb mirror In-Reply-To: <45C9CD32.5080106@yandex.ru> References: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> <45C9CD32.5080106@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1170854770.7929.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-07-02 at 12:59 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Can anybody suggest any pros and cons of having a local (private) deb > > mirror for a small home (~6 machines) network? > Why not have the benefits of a local mirror without the disadvantage > of storing 200GB of data? > Use apt-proxy or apt-cacher, perfectly suited for this situation. Only > the files that are needed by a machine are downloaded, and then they are > stored. Then all the files only get downloaded once. I found that after > a year my apt-cacher cache had only grown to less than 2gb. Perfect! This works iff you have machines that are largely identical. In my case I have three machines. One is my laptop which I have until recently been using only Dapper on (and am really regretting the "upgrade" to Edgy...). On it I have mostly networking client software, office software and that sort of thing. Another is my development workstation/network server/network experimentation box. This is running a very different set of packages. Finally I have my testbed which has at any given time several different versions of Ubuntu (and other distros including LFS work but that's outside of the scope of an Ubuntu repo). Apt-proxy/cacher just didn't work out for me. A carefully-selective local repository was a better bet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 13:10:41 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:10:41 -0400 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> In Kubuntu, go to KDE Control Center, then go to Power Center, then >> Laptop Battery. You should be able to configure everything there. > > Doesn't appear to be the case in 6.10. First off finding kcontrol was > a > chore since it isn't in the K menu by default. Only thing there was > "System > Settings" which mirrors what the OSX setup looks like. Blech. No power > settings there. Found kcontrol from the CLI, ran it, no power settings > there, either. > Well, anything that isn't in System Settings shouldn't be in kcontrol - they're just different front ends to the same thing. I notice that my kpowersave settings aren't integrated to kcontrol/System Settings, either. I can't recall what the default KDE power settings module is - kpowersave isn't the default. -- derek From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 13:49:33 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:49:33 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Eric Dunbar wrote: > >> > > >> > Or, as I discovered this evening, you can map a drive or a partition > >> > to your VM and avoid messing with Samba (need to be running vmware as > >> > root, however). > >> > >> How? I googled some pages that said you could, but I couldn't figure it > >> out. > > > > Edit the preferences for your VM (assuming you're using Server). > > Well, no. Why would I be using Server when it's so simple to install > Player... That's your decision. This morning (7/2/7) someone posted a message about VMware as well (unrelated to my threads) -- one of the links there pointed to a page where someone was editing a VMware VM configuration file manually to add a partition to the computer. ... but, if you have VMware it's easy as pie ;-) (perhaps the third party VMware configuration software can set up partitions or drives to be mounted by the VM). PS One consideration re: VMware Player is that the EULA _supposedly_ (I haven't bothered to investigate) prohibits its use as a server. > More and more, I think that the idea of "avoiding" Samba is a mistake. > Using Samba, you get to use Linux native filesystems for sharing your data. I'm trying to avoid relying on the VMware host system for _any_ services. I'd like to be able to move the VM from computer to computer without having to worry about configuring _anything_ other than VMware Server in _some_ OS (whether that OS is Ubuntu, CentOS, FC, Debian, Windows XP, etc.). > > hose my MBR (I think) by telling my Windows XP CD to 'fixmbr' and now > > doing the "GRUB dance" with the live Cd to no avail (e.g. > > Bring up Live CD, open terminal: > > sudo mount /dev/... /mnt (where /dev/... is your Ubuntu partition) > grub-install /dev/... --root-directory=/mnt/boot (or maybe that should only > have been /mnt - I'm just doing it from memory. /dev/... in this case is > the drive whose mbr you want to write). I've gotten further with my understanding of MBR (a good thing IMNSHO) -- but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to configure GRUB to get it to boot the Windows install. Independently (with the Linux HD removed) the Windows install DOES boot but gives a boot.ini error (it's actually missing -- and bootcfg /rebuild refuses to complete, even after a successful chkdsk /r and a 'flawless' chkdsk /p... disk corruption, somewhere not fixable by chkdsk?). Either way, I think my conceptual understanding of Linux/Windows/GRUB is now sufficiently advanced that I know what NOT to do and that I'm prepared to start configuring the server and set things up (time to wipe the disks ;-). Eric From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 13:57:01 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:57:01 +0100 Subject: Help with ES1868 sound card In-Reply-To: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> References: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9DAAD.5040301@gmail.com> Teri a écrit : > I am brand new to Ubuntu and Linux. I played around with other distros > but like Ubuntu best. I've got everything set up the way I want with > the exception of my sound card. Ubuntu doesn't think I have one. The > only distro that found it was Puppy Linux and I didn't like it. Could > someone please tell me how to download and install the driver. I found > the driver on the ALSA site but being new to Linux I'm not sure how to > download and install it. I plan to learn to do all kinds of stuff in > Linux myself but I would really like to get the soundcard working so I > can listen to music while I learn. Any help is appreciated. > > Thank You, > Teri > Well, can you type some command and give me the result ? uname -r >> debug_alsa_file echo "lspci -v" >> debug_alsa_file lspci -v >> debug_alsa_file echo "lsmod | grep snd" >> debug_alsa_file lsmod | grep snd >> debug_alsa_file I don't think you'll need to compile alsa From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 13:59:33 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:59:33 +0100 Subject: Help with ES1868 sound card In-Reply-To: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> References: <45C92FBF.6030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9DB45.90308@gmail.com> Oups, I forgot to mention that the result is in a file named debug_alsa_file in the working dir From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Wed Feb 7 15:09:53 2007 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:09:53 -0500 Subject: Recommendations for webcams and software to make postable video clips Message-ID: <1170860993.19275.25.camel@pspotts> Folks, Our all-Mac office is beginning to ask some of us reporters to do very brief video clips for our website (I've been blessed with a voice, and cursed with a face, made for radio!). Usually, two someones from our photo department trundle over with a camera, tripod, light, and mike -- a major, and often disrupting, production. At the office yesterday, one of our web gurus had me test a video approach that uses the tiny camera and mike built into a rather large Mac flat-screen monitor to make the video. Then we used some Mac software to record it and convert it into a .mov file for posting. I use my Ubuntu-run laptop as my primary (read "only") machine in the office as well as at home or on the road (where we'd also be expected to originate these little clips). So, what are my best options for hanging a webcam off my laptop's lid and for software that will give me something akin to an .mov file at the end of a recording/file-massaging process? I'm running Xubuntu Edgy on a four-year-old Toshiba Satellite 1905-S303 -- which still hums along too smartly to trash yet. This is a new universe for me, so thanks in advance for any guidance... With best regards, Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From carsten at welcomes-you.com Wed Feb 7 15:29:27 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:27 +0100 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> Rares Vernica wrote: > In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is > replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like > to turn this feature off. Is it possible? That is a yes > I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like > directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. That's the harder part. My guess is, it belongs to the readline interface Thus putting 'set tilde-expand Off' in ~/.incputrc *should* alter that, according to 'man bash' or 'man readline', however, I didn't succeed. Maybe you should search in that direction. Carsten From matt.price at utoronto.ca Wed Feb 7 15:49:09 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:49:09 -0500 Subject: synaptics touchpad stopped scrolling? Message-ID: <1170863349.10151.34.camel@localhost> Hi, for some reasoon my synaptics touchpad has recently stopped scrolling. I did mess around with my xorg.conf a while ago, getting nvidia to work, but I don't think that's the issue. here's the relevant part of my xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "MinSpeed" "0.7" Option "MaxSpeed" "3" Option "AccelFactor" "0.025" Option "SHMConfig" "1" EndSection Xorg.0.log doesn't seem to report any errors either: ~$ grep -i synapt /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) |-->Input Device "Synaptics Touchpad" (II) LoadModule: "synaptics" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so (II) Module synaptics: vendor="The XFree86 Project" (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.6 (1406) (--) Synaptics Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event3 (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found (**) Synaptics Touchpad: always reports core events (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Synaptics Touchpad" (type: MOUSE) Synaptics DeviceInit called SynapticsCtrl called. Synaptics DeviceOn called (--) Synaptics Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event3 (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found ---------------- the change seems pretty sudden and I'm at a bit of a loss to diagnose it. any hints? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From amichai at iglu.org.il Wed Feb 7 16:32:23 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:32:23 +0200 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail Message-ID: Hi all, I am trying to move my old mail from KMail to GMail. I configured GMail in KMail - but it couldn't authenticate. 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I'd like this to happen with my internal card reader as well, but while the card insertion IS detected by the system, as dmesg shows: [66680.274071] SCSI device sde: 124160 512-byte hdwr sectors (64 MB) [66680.276688] sde: Write Protect is off [66680.276693] sde: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [66680.276697] sde: assuming drive cache: write through the card isn't automaounted. anyone have any idea why that's the case, or what I might do to correct it? do I need some kind of a udev rule? THis is on ubuntu feisty, amd64, so I think of it as a gnome issue I guess. thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alternately, boot into Ubuntu Live and use "sudo parted" to delete the Ubuntu partitions. Then, boot back into Mac OS X and use the unassigned space to create a new HFS+ Journalled partition. PS MAKE SURE YOU BACK UP YOUR MAC OS X INSTALL (or, at the very least your user accounts in /user). Eric. From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Wed Feb 7 17:04:53 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:04:53 +0000 Subject: printer problems Message-ID: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> Hi I am having weird problems with my printer. Its a HP deskjet 720C I had it all installed nice on my 6.06 LTS. I then foolishly chabged to 6.10. Under 6.10 the printer would not work. it was recognised but would not print. So I went back to 6.06 LTS and it still will not print! I tried it on another 6.10 desktop I have and that would not even recognise that the printer existed! Of course the printer works fine with windows! I have scratched around in vain and am getting nowhere fast as I seem to be the only one at this moment having this issue. Also how does one search the archives? From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 17:41:53 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:41:53 +0100 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> Message-ID: <45CA0F61.8070906@gmail.com> inhabitant of zion a écrit : > Hi > > I am having weird problems with my printer. Its a HP deskjet 720C > > I had it all installed nice on my 6.06 LTS. > > I then foolishly chabged to 6.10. > > Under 6.10 the printer would not work. it was recognised but would not > print. > > So I went back to 6.06 LTS and it still will not print! > > I tried it on another 6.10 desktop I have and that would not even > recognise that the printer existed! OMG ! Edgy has been such a pain :p . As for my laptop power management, Acer Aspire 1691WLMI, a bug that was resolve in dapper, reappeared with edgy and seems to be fixed in Feity :p (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/73266) > Also how does one search the archives? For that I propose you download the Gziped version, and search via "grep" into it . From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Wed Feb 7 17:57:41 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:57:41 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CA0F61.8070906@gmail.com> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <45CA0F61.8070906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CA1315.1010200@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Here is the output from /var/log/cups/error_log anybody able to translate into some useful language I can understand! E [07/Feb/2007:16:55:46 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found! 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E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] [Job 18] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] PID 21758 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyhMVSk8WqQy7AdYRAkBcAJ9f48wk6OHaGCTMYdZrXpFHWDYLGwCeKXJQ avayUXhra9w3XtG6Kqy+1YI= =AzDj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 18:24:11 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:24:11 +0200 Subject: Phonecall with logitech Message-ID: <880dece00702071024o52782ebbu8493a8ed76983e32@mail.gmail.com> Just thought that you guys might like to know that I just spent 23 minutes on the phone with Logitech telling them that they need to supply Linux drivers. They were rather nice, but they said that they have no intention of ever suppling linux drivers as there is no demand. They do have Vista drivers, though, even though I am certain that for every Vista user today there are 1000 Linux users or more. Logitech's contact info is on this page: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/utilities/contact/IL/EN And to save you the trip, this is their US phone number: 702-269-3457 Give them a call and express interest. It is the only way that we will see companies back their products with linux support. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xml.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/289/kansas.html From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Wed Feb 7 18:32:45 2007 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:32:45 +0100 Subject: Recommendations for webcams and software to make postable video clips In-Reply-To: <1170860993.19275.25.camel@pspotts> References: <1170860993.19275.25.camel@pspotts> Message-ID: <45CA1B4D.7070608@kaiser-linux.li> Peter N. Spotts wrote: > Folks, > > Our all-Mac office is beginning to ask some of us reporters to do very > brief video clips for our website (I've been blessed with a voice, and > cursed with a face, made for radio!). Usually, two someones from our > photo department trundle over with a camera, tripod, light, and mike -- > a major, and often disrupting, production. At the office yesterday, one > of our web gurus had me test a video approach that uses the tiny camera > and mike built into a rather large Mac flat-screen monitor to make the > video. Then we used some Mac software to record it and convert it into > a .mov file for posting. > > I use my Ubuntu-run laptop as my primary (read "only") machine in the > office as well as at home or on the road (where we'd also be expected to > originate these little clips). So, what are my best options for hanging > a webcam off my laptop's lid and for software that will give me > something akin to an .mov file at the end of a recording/file-massaging > process? I'm running Xubuntu Edgy on a four-year-old Toshiba Satellite > 1905-S303 -- which still hums along too smartly to trash yet. > > This is a new universe for me, so thanks in advance for any guidance... > > With best regards, > > Pete Hello Pete For webcam support see http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html gspca (spca5xx) is included in Ubuntu, but I don't know which version. And there are some more webcam drivers out there which are included in Ubuntu.... Check http://mxhaard.free.fr/news.html to find out which cam was added at what time. Just choose one which is in already a long time and you should be on the save side :-) Hope this helps, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Wed Feb 7 18:47:05 2007 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:47:05 -0500 Subject: Recommendations for webcams and software to make postable video clips In-Reply-To: <45CA1B4D.7070608@kaiser-linux.li> References: <1170860993.19275.25.camel@pspotts> <45CA1B4D.7070608@kaiser-linux.li> Message-ID: <1170874025.19275.42.camel@pspotts> Many thanks, I'll give all that a look... Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From tuxman at knology.net Wed Feb 7 18:54:13 2007 From: tuxman at knology.net (mtyoung) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:54:13 -0600 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player In-Reply-To: References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> Message-ID: <45CA2055.90106@knology.net> Where did you see a reference to SATA drives? If true that's bad for me since I wanted to install it on a SATA drive. Now I have Ubuntu on an old 20G ATA drive I, and XP on a 160G SATA. I wanted to install the latest Ubuntu on another 200G SATA (I'm still running 6.04) Re: Digg. Save yourself some time and just read the linux section. http://digg.com/linux_unix Derek Broughton wrote: > having trouble installing VMWare-server (it says there's already an > installation, which there isn't and never has been) > > I have, I couldn't figure out how to do it purely with VMPlayer, and I am > > What is it with "digg" and VMWare? I'd never even heard of digg until I > started googling for vmware stuff, and now practically every link is via > digg. > > Anyway, the article looks pretty good, but almost useless for me :-( It > will only work for IDE drives. SATA drives are a more awkward beast. > From ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com Wed Feb 7 18:57:23 2007 From: ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com (BBBB) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0600 Subject: HP Laptop Card Reader - Edgy - ZV6270US Message-ID: <00f601c74ae9$cdc9fa70$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> Edgy is working GREAT on this laptop. I would like to get the card reader working. I have found some information on this but have not succeeded. Has anyone out there had success with this? from lspci: 03:04.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411 , PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7411, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller thanks, Bradley From cyclothunder at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 19:06:20 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (Luis Rodrigues) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:06:20 +0000 Subject: No shortcuts to devices on desktop... Message-ID: <16dd62e50702071106t6f8d95f2h1b86a1a5480b6ea6@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Question 1 - Every time i connect a usb flashdrive ubuntu automounts a then place a shotcut in desktop. How do i remove the auto shortcut feature ? Question 2 - I've a dual xp and ubuntu. On ubuntu's desktop i've hda1 that belongs to windows.How do i remove that? Note: i still want flashfrive and hda1 on menu "Places". thx guys :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 18:41:08 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:41:08 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Well, no. Why would I be using Server when it's so simple to install >> Player... > > That's your decision. This morning (7/2/7) someone posted a message > about VMware as well (unrelated to my threads) -- one of the links > there pointed to a page where someone was editing a VMware VM > configuration file manually to add a partition to the computer. > > ... but, if you have VMware it's easy as pie ;-) (perhaps the third > party VMware configuration software can set up partitions or drives to > be mounted by the VM). With VMPlayer, and www.easyvmx.com, setting up a virtual disk installation is trivial. With vmplayer and IDE drives, manual configuration is still pretty simple using the physical partition. It's the idea of using the physical partition on a SATA drive that is difficult, and I'm not yet convinced that vmware-server is going to help me much. > > PS One consideration re: VMware Player is that the EULA _supposedly_ > (I haven't bothered to investigate) prohibits its use as a server. Possibly - who reads EULAs :-) Probably 95% of VMWare users have no intention of ever using it as a server (your situation obviously being different). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 18:47:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:34 -0400 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail References: Message-ID: <6fjp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to move my old mail from KMail to GMail. > > I configured GMail in KMail - but it couldn't authenticate. It can... Make sure it's configured to use SSL. > > I also have access to an IMAP account, so I add the IMAP account to both > KMail and Thunderbird 1.5 so I can transfer mail from KMail to IMAP and > then from IMAP in Thunderbird to GMail. However, POP doesn't have "upload" capability. How are you planning to get the mails into GMail? -- derek From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Feb 7 19:15:38 2007 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:15:38 +0100 Subject: Phonecall with logitech In-Reply-To: <880dece00702071024o52782ebbu8493a8ed76983e32@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00702071024o52782ebbu8493a8ed76983e32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote: > Just thought that you guys might like to know that I just spent 23 > minutes on the phone with Logitech telling them that they need to > supply Linux drivers. They were rather nice, but they said that they > have no intention of ever suppling linux drivers as there is no > demand. They do have Vista drivers, though, even though I am certain > that for every Vista user today there are 1000 Linux users or more. > > Logitech's contact info is on this page: > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/utilities/contact/IL/EN > > And to save you the trip, this is their US phone number: > 702-269-3457 > > Give them a call and express interest. It is the only way that we will > see companies back their products with linux support. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xml.html > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/289/kansas.html > Hi, thanks much. Just out of curiosity: For which Logitech Product do you need a linux driver? Thanks and regards Eberhard From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 18:36:23 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:36:23 -0400 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> <45C9D6D7.10505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7qip94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> >> I have, I couldn't figure out how to do it purely with VMPlayer, and I am >> having trouble installing VMWare-server (it says there's already an >> installation, which there isn't and never has been) > > When VMware is saying that, check if there is /etc/vmware dir existing. > If yes, remove it. and retry to install. Thanks! It apparently doesn't play well with a prior version of VMPlayer. I'd removed but not purged VMPlayer. -- derek From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 19:22:24 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:22:24 +0100 Subject: No shortcuts to devices on desktop... In-Reply-To: <16dd62e50702071106t6f8d95f2h1b86a1a5480b6ea6@mail.gmail.com> References: <16dd62e50702071106t6f8d95f2h1b86a1a5480b6ea6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CA26F0.307@gmail.com> Hi Luis! > Question 1 - Every time i connect a usb flashdrive ubuntu automounts > a then place a shotcut in desktop. How do i remove the auto shortcut > feature ? You have to open GConf (Alt-F2 then type gconf-editor). There you have to open the apps->nautilus->desktop folder and uncheck 'volumes_visible... HTH, Severin From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 19:22:47 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:22:47 -0500 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <77520bee0702071122n4101a69bq801b290506edf22d@mail.gmail.com> On 07/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > On 04/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > >> Well, no. Why would I be using Server when it's so simple to install > >> Player... > > > > That's your decision. This morning (7/2/7) someone posted a message > > about VMware as well (unrelated to my threads) -- one of the links > > there pointed to a page where someone was editing a VMware VM > > configuration file manually to add a partition to the computer. > > > > ... but, if you have VMware it's easy as pie ;-) (perhaps the third > > party VMware configuration software can set up partitions or drives to > > be mounted by the VM). > > With VMPlayer, and www.easyvmx.com, setting up a virtual disk installation > is trivial. With vmplayer and IDE drives, manual configuration is still > pretty simple using the physical partition. > > It's the idea of using the physical partition on a SATA drive that is > difficult, and I'm not yet convinced that vmware-server is going to help me > much. > > > > PS One consideration re: VMware Player is that the EULA _supposedly_ > > (I haven't bothered to investigate) prohibits its use as a server. > > Possibly - who reads EULAs :-) Probably 95% of VMWare users have no > intention of ever using it as a server (your situation obviously being > different). That's almost certainly true (I read maybe 1/20 EULAs). [rant -- nothing implied about you or anyone else who's posted in this thread] However, given that there are some people (using VMware) in the OSS community who vehemently defend Ubuntu/GNU as being in the right for rejecting licence x, y or z as not being this or that (or compatible with licence a, b or c) they MUST acknowledge and respect any licencing restrictions placed upon the use of VMware Player by its creator. If they fail to adhere to the VMware Player licence's restrictions (whatever they happen to be) they also forfeit any right to complain about or advocate on behalf of any other licence -- hypocrisy _should_ be the death knell to credibility (of course, the continued existence of the "fair and balanced" Fox News (unless they're actually trying for irony in their slogan) in the US shows that a few too many people are quite content with being hypocritical or acritical (is that a word?) anyway ;-). [/rant] From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 19:19:58 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:19:58 -0400 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path References: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: >> In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is >> replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like >> to turn this feature off. Is it possible? > > That is a yes > >> I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like >> directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. > > That's the harder part. My guess is, it belongs to the readline interface > Thus putting 'set tilde-expand Off' in ~/.incputrc *should* alter that, > according to 'man bash' or 'man readline', however, I didn't succeed. > > Maybe you should search in that direction. > It should be ~/.inputrc, and the command should be: set expand-tilde off unfortunately, that didn't work either :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 19:17:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:17:52 -0400 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> <45CA2055.90106@knology.net> Message-ID: <08lp94-ojp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> mtyoung wrote: > Where did you see a reference to SATA drives? > > If true that's bad for me since I wanted to install it on a SATA drive. > Now I have Ubuntu on an old 20G ATA drive I, and XP on a 160G SATA. I > wanted to install the latest Ubuntu on another 200G SATA (I'm still > running 6.04) You can install XP on a virtual disk, it's just doing it with a physical partition that's a pain. If you googled "vmware physical SATA" I think you'd find a ton of links, but this one is good: http://blog.faqs.it/?p=23 It can be done, it's just not as simple as with an IDE, and I haven't accomplished it yet. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 7 18:43:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:43:44 -0400 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path References: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <18jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: >> I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like >> directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. > > That's the harder part. My guess is, it belongs to the readline interface > Thus putting 'set tilde-expand Off' in ~/.incputrc *should* alter that, > according to 'man bash' or 'man readline', however, I didn't succeed. Assuming that should be ~/.inputrc, it didn't work for me either :-) Thanks for the suggestion, though. -- derek From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 19:45:32 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:45:32 -0500 Subject: Running Ubuntu under Windows/running a Windows app under Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1170744939.30373.32.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <77520bee0701272301t765add41mc9e1b694bf41777e@mail.gmail.com> <45BC5868.1010402@lambaweb.com> <77520bee0701301456o2f12f3fdkf33e35d9be6ee2ca@mail.gmail.com> <45C057E4.6030402@gmail.com> <77520bee0701310927o3ed5d0e3y372ff45b6154d15c@mail.gmail.com> <1170302856.4945.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170382010.28166.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1170744939.30373.32.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702071145m38ee5e35ieab8ad3344633164@mail.gmail.com> An ad popped up in GMail from a VM company triggered by VMware, I'm sure. I suspect these guys are commercial-only but the flash video they have on their website is interesting to watch. The concept is quite neat -- building virtual machines and web applications that can exist on multiple machines (yes, this is something about which I know next to nothing... there may very well be something OSS that's similar... it's still neat though (IMNSHO ;-)). Site: http://www.3tera.com/?aid=bjavm0002&gclid=CLvo-oL_nIoCFSNmYwodViAPng Video: http://ns1.netclime.net/online-demo.html From ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com Wed Feb 7 20:05:32 2007 From: ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com (BBBB) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:05:32 -0600 Subject: HP Laptop Card Reader - Edgy - ZV6270US - Partial Success References: <00f601c74ae9$cdc9fa70$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> Message-ID: <010801c74af3$54e4fd30$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> I seem to have answered my own question. Only SD and MMC are working but that will do for now. I found the information here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315497 Thanks, Bradley ----- Original Message ----- From: "BBBB" To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: HP Laptop Card Reader - Edgy - ZV6270US > Edgy is working GREAT on this laptop. > > I would like to get the card reader working. > I have found some information on this but have not succeeded. > Has anyone out there had success with this? > > from lspci: > 03:04.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411 , PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, > PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7411, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller > > thanks, > Bradley > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 20:09:25 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:09:25 +0200 Subject: Phonecall with logitech In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00702071024o52782ebbu8493a8ed76983e32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00702071209k768627fbwec6ac6137c0b61c7@mail.gmail.com> On 07/02/07, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Just thought that you guys might like to know that I just spent 23 > > minutes on the phone with Logitech telling them that they need to > > supply Linux drivers. They were rather nice, but they said that they > > have no intention of ever suppling linux drivers as there is no > > demand. They do have Vista drivers, though, even though I am certain > > that for every Vista user today there are 1000 Linux users or more. > > > > Logitech's contact info is on this page: > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/utilities/contact/IL/EN > > > > And to save you the trip, this is their US phone number: > > 702-269-3457 > > > > Give them a call and express interest. It is the only way that we will > > see companies back their products with linux support. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xml.html > > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/289/kansas.html > > > Hi, > thanks much. > > Just out of curiosity: For which Logitech Product do you need a linux > driver? > > Thanks and regards > Eberhard > Quickcam Express. But it's for my Fedora 6 box, not the Kubuntu box. In any case, I thought it good to share the call with the Ubuntu community to show others how to help make a difference. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/e-mail.html http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_are_the_advantages_of_lcd_monitors.html From brian at fahrlander.net Wed Feb 7 20:17:29 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:17:29 -0600 Subject: Amavis Virus Notifications [solved] Message-ID: <45CA33D9.4020207@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Last week someone asked the question of how to turn off virus notifications; not notification to the sender, but to postmaster. I've located the fix. In /etc/amavis/conf.d/50-user, add the line: $virus_admin = undef; # do not send virus admin notifications This has been in place at two of my servers, and these needless notifications have stopped. (Yay!) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyjPZ6PLtRzZbdhYRAratAJ446NsfQ5SgeaUIEJxxE4CqYOqIgACfRHgr tyAFdyJxHXeKD+SCbBq9TnI= =V4fb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 7 20:46:18 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:46:18 -0500 Subject: Evolution - Lost Email??? Message-ID: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> I had an email in draft that was critical for me to reply to. I accidentally deleted it (yeah, I know - idiot!) but, I cannot find that email in trash or anywhere else!! Is there any place to restore this from? From tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz Wed Feb 7 21:37:51 2007 From: tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Tom Eastman) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:37:51 +1300 Subject: Converting HTML to PDF non-interactively with konqueror or mozilla Message-ID: Hey guys, Here's an interesting puzzle I'm trying to work out, and I was hoping someone else might have some insight into. I need to convert HTML files to PDF files, in large numbers, on a regular basis. There are two tricky points here: 1. I need the process to be non-interactive, something that I can further automate with shell-scripts or Makefiles or something. 2. I need the HTML files to be correctly rendered. Unfortunately, the 'html2ps' program doesn't interpret the pages well enough, I think it's ignoring some of the stylesheets or something. Otherwise it would be ideal for my task. Both konqueror (khtml) and mozilla (gecko) can be used to create the PDFs just like how I want them to appear, but both of them require manual, interactive steps (load page, select print, 'print to ps/pdf' or some such). So the question is, how can I script interactivity with either of these two programs? Any ideas will be much appreciated! Cheers, Tom From jwgraddy at valornet.com Wed Feb 7 22:10:29 2007 From: jwgraddy at valornet.com (John Graddy) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:10:29 -0600 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> Message-ID: <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> I had the same problem. I installed HPLIP 1.7.1 (on 6.10) and everything worked fine. I never did find out why it quit working on 6.06. I haven't installed HPLIP 1.7.1 on 6.06. On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 17:04 +0000, inhabitant of zion wrote: > Hi > > I am having weird problems with my printer. Its a HP deskjet 720C > > I had it all installed nice on my 6.06 LTS. > > I then foolishly chabged to 6.10. > > Under 6.10 the printer would not work. it was recognised but would not > print. > > So I went back to 6.06 LTS and it still will not print! > > I tried it on another 6.10 desktop I have and that would not even > recognise that the printer existed! > > Of course the printer works fine with windows! > > I have scratched around in vain and am getting nowhere fast as I seem to > be the only one at this moment having this issue. > > Also how does one search the archives? > > > > > > > > > From bnjrj at uaf.edu Wed Feb 7 22:28:17 2007 From: bnjrj at uaf.edu (James R. Jones) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:28:17 -0900 Subject: Converting HTML to PDF non-interactively with konqueror or mozilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CA5281.8040603@uaf.edu> Tom Eastman wrote: > Hey guys, > > Here's an interesting puzzle I'm trying to work out, and I was hoping > someone else might have some insight into. > > I need to convert HTML files to PDF files, in large numbers, on a > regular basis. There are two tricky points here: > > 1. I need the process to be non-interactive, something that I can > further automate with shell-scripts or Makefiles or something. > > 2. I need the HTML files to be correctly rendered. Unfortunately, the > 'html2ps' program doesn't interpret the pages well enough, I think it's > ignoring some of the stylesheets or something. Otherwise it would be > ideal for my task. > > Both konqueror (khtml) and mozilla (gecko) can be used to create the > PDFs just like how I want them to appear, but both of them require > manual, interactive steps (load page, select print, 'print to ps/pdf' or > some such). > > So the question is, how can I script interactivity with either of these > two programs? > > Any ideas will be much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Tom > > > Tom, One quick idea if khtml or gecko is command line driven is to write an expect script. jim -- James Jones System Manager UAF-Bristol Bay Campus 907-842-8312 From rvernica at gmail.com Wed Feb 7 22:33:04 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:33:04 -0800 Subject: dual boot - xp behaves strange In-Reply-To: <2jvo94-t5m.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <9becf9a00701162010q4371e946n307c36272d2038c0@mail.gmail.com> <20070119092241.GA3965@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20070120215027.GG3966@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45B72FBF.7020009@bresnan.net> <4ipj94-057.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <2jvo94-t5m.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> Rares Vernica wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I managed to solve it. >>>> >>>> I just removed the "makeactive" line from the Windows XP boot section in >>>> the Grub config file. >>>> >>>> It works now. >>>> >>> Whatever works! That's odd, since I though it _should_ be active, but if >>> it ain't broke, don't fix it :-) >> I don't think the windows partition needs to be active. By setting it >> active, the Ubuntu partition, on which Grub is, becomes inactive and so >> my problem. >> > No, Ubuntu doesn't need to be "active" either. Ubuntu might not need to have the partition active, but Grub, if it is not on MBR, does need to be on an active partition else it is never loaded. Ray Ray From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Wed Feb 7 22:57:28 2007 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (wim delvaux) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:57:28 +0100 Subject: Converting HTML to PDF non-interactively with konqueror or mozilla In-Reply-To: <45CA5281.8040603@uaf.edu> References: <45CA5281.8040603@uaf.edu> Message-ID: <200702072357.28614.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> html2ps ? W On Wednesday 07 February 2007 23:28:17 James R. Jones wrote: > Tom Eastman wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Here's an interesting puzzle I'm trying to work out, and I was hoping > > someone else might have some insight into. > > > > I need to convert HTML files to PDF files, in large numbers, on a > > regular basis. There are two tricky points here: > > > > 1. I need the process to be non-interactive, something that I can > > further automate with shell-scripts or Makefiles or something. > > > > 2. I need the HTML files to be correctly rendered. Unfortunately, the > > 'html2ps' program doesn't interpret the pages well enough, I think it's > > ignoring some of the stylesheets or something. Otherwise it would be > > ideal for my task. > > > > Both konqueror (khtml) and mozilla (gecko) can be used to create the > > PDFs just like how I want them to appear, but both of them require > > manual, interactive steps (load page, select print, 'print to ps/pdf' or > > some such). > > > > So the question is, how can I script interactivity with either of these > > two programs? > > > > Any ideas will be much appreciated! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tom > > Tom, > > One quick idea if khtml or gecko is command line driven is to write an > expect script. > jim > > -- > James Jones > System Manager > UAF-Bristol Bay Campus > 907-842-8312 From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Wed Feb 7 21:17:45 2007 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:17:45 -0800 Subject: [newbie] better way to delete unneeded but accumulating backup files, subdirectories? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CA41F9.4060702@shaw.ca> > > From: > Brian Fahrlander > Date: > Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:59:23 -0600 > >> I have some sort of backup sequence that accumulates partial and full >> backup files in /var/backup; I initiated the sequence before appreciated >> what I was setting up, and far enough back that I have zero recollection >> of what I might have used. A couple of months back, after I noticed my >> remaining hard drive space disappearing at a rapid rate, (quelle >> suprise!) someone here kindly suggested deleting them, and I've been >> deleting them more or less bi-weekly ever since using the following >> > Check your crontabs, and entries in /etc/cron.*. There's likely a > script, installed with the backup, that eats your space. > > Crontabs come in two varieties: user-related and system-related. > User crontabs are most easily checked like: > > crontab -e root > > The system-related ones live in /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.hourly, > and so on. > > Look first: somethings NEED to be there. Don't just go dumping > anything you see, that'll cause problems. > > (All this is not specific to any release, I don't believe.) Thanks v. much for your reply. It help me a lot! I'll give the crontabs a once over later today. BTW, I got an unfamiliar error message from Gmane when I tried replying earlier today via that route. Anyone else? From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Wed Feb 7 23:42:52 2007 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:42:52 +1100 Subject: PCI Card Recommendations(WiFi) Message-ID: <200702081042.52215.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> I have checked the internet ... but would be very interested to hear other (K)Ubuntu user's reports on PCI cards that provide reliable WiFi. My laptop has a PCMCIA card with an atheros chipset. This seems to work well. Maybe I should go to the market with my 'strong' glasses on ... and look at the labels on the chipsets in the pci cards for sale? I use an updates 6.06 Kubuntu and Xubuntu on the laptop. Richard -- -- Irena and Richard Jenkins Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 00:28:08 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 02:28:08 +0200 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702071628u9dc11f1h547b5671df21d20c@mail.gmail.com> On 07/02/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to move my old mail from KMail to GMail. > > I configured GMail in KMail - but it couldn't authenticate. > > I also have access to an IMAP account, so I add the IMAP account to both > KMail and Thunderbird 1.5 so I can transfer mail from KMail to IMAP and then > from IMAP in Thunderbird to GMail. How do you expect Tbird to upload the mails to Gmail? > I have POP access enabled in GMail. That's for downloading, my friend. > When I tried to upload 1 message from KMail to IMAP, it dosn't show in the > IMAP account configured in Thunderbird... Are you sure that the message go to the IMAP server? Who's hosting it? > Is there an easy way to do this? Yes. > What am I doing wrong? You're not simply Forwarding your mails to the Gmail account. > Thanks! בקיף! Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_can_i_be_safe_online.html http://easyanswers.info From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 00:30:37 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:30:37 -0500 Subject: what to use instead of skype? In-Reply-To: <1168209094.14724.10.camel@localhost> References: <1168035175.5619.37.camel@localhost> <1168209094.14724.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1170894637.20007.10.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 23:31 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > So Matt, did you find anything that worked okay? > hi duncan, semester started on the day you wrote this and I lost track of my mail. no, I did not find anything yet, and I'm just plain discouraged. at the moment I'm considering using windows in vmware -- only because my folks are all windows users so the only real option for them right now is skype. sigh. m > Duncan > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My guess is, it belongs to the readline interface > Thus putting 'set tilde-expand Off' in ~/.incputrc *should* alter that, > according to 'man bash' or 'man readline', however, I didn't succeed. > > Maybe you should search in that direction. OK - I did a bit of comparison with a Debian Sid chroot I have running here, and discovered the following: 1: Debian does not complete the tilde on ~/ ( for instance cd ~/deb does not expand to /home/peter/debs but remains ~/debs ) 2. Debian sets the PATH in /etc/profile and does not source /etc/bash.bashrc from /etc/profile 3. Apparently Ubuntu uses /etc/environment to set the PATH 4. If the following is commented out in /etc/profile on Ubuntu, it behaves like Debian ( no tilde expansion) # if [ -f /etc/bash.bashrc ]; then # . /etc/bash.bashrc # fi This appears not to affect the PATH , which is set for users in /etc/environment in Ubuntu for reasons which remain triumphantly unclear to me ;-) Something to do with pam ?? Commenting those lines in /etc/profile might break other things in new and entertaining ways of which I am unaware ;-) , but this seems to be at least a clue. /etc/bash.bashrc has a function which is *supposed* to enable tilde expansion, but commenting that function out had no apparent effect here. Peter From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 00:38:18 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:38:18 -0500 Subject: ripping several hundred cds? In-Reply-To: <1167808452.23081.8.camel@dragon> References: <1164560591.5578.23.camel@localhost> <1167808452.23081.8.camel@dragon> Message-ID: <1170895098.20007.14.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 23:14 -0800, Jim Richardson wrote: > On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 12:03 -0500, Matt Price wrote: > > Hi, > > > > for xmas I'm switching our stereo over to an electronic system -- > > probably a combination of an ipod and a linux player. > > > > as part of this project I want to rip all of our cds to mp3 or ogg (if > > someone has a suggestion ofr an ogg-friendly ipod-replacement?). I'm > > doing enough of these that I'd like to have as little user interaction > > as possible -- just shove in the cd, have it automatically rip to a > > specifed location, then eject and on to the next one. has anyone done > > anything of this kind before? any suggestions? > > > > thanks, > > > > matt > > just realized I never responded to the end part of this thread. If anyone's still itnerested, I went with abcde, which simultaneously ripped to flac and mp3. It mostly worked really, well, though osmetimes I'd have several threads rnning simultaneously (I set gnome to run it automatically when I popped in a cd, and as soon as the cd was copied as raw wav file it would eject, and I'd put hte next in) and I've discovered rather belatedly that these threads can interfere iwth each other, so I have some very interesting mp3's on my ipod... anyway it worked great, thanks! m -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Other dvd can read without > problem with that windowsxp. > > Thank you in advance. > There's a rather simple fix that you can do to your Windows machine so that it will read the disk: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bios.html http://yadya.com From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 8 00:47:22 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:47:22 +1100 Subject: Correction to my post (Re: tilde completion etc) In-Reply-To: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> References: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <20070208114722.a5325006.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:27 +0100 Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Rares Vernica wrote: ( stuff about tilde expansion ) Apologies - the function that is supposed to enable tilde completion is actually in /etc/bash_completion , but as I said it has no discernible effect here if I remove/comment it out. Peter From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 01:49:27 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:49:27 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for your answer. But I am very sad because it also doesn't work. On 2/7/07, Wei-Yee Chan wrote: > > zhihang wang wrote: > > But there is not the firefox icon in the *Application Launcher* > > sub-menu. I use > > sudo apt-get remove firefox > > to remove the firefox 1.0.9 and I installed the firefox 2.0. > > Now I can use the firefox 2.0 by > > >firefox > > But I can't find the icon in the Application Launcher. > > > See if this works: > > sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop > > [Desktop Entry] > Name=Firefox > Comment=Firefox > Exec=firefox %u > Icon=firefox.png > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Categories=Application;Network; > > Save the file. > > sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/evolution.desktop > > [Desktop Entry] > Name=Evolution > Comment=Evolution > Exec=Exec=evolution- > Icon=evolution- > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Categories=Application;Network; > > Then save the file and restart Gnome or simply reboot your computer. > > Regards, > > Wei-Yee Chan > http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But what winds up there is a single bookmark to the XML page, defining the headlines (if you actually LIKE to hunt for the news in all that XML.) Now, Linux cut-n-paste with three mouse buttons is superb. No remembering arcane key combinations each for cut, paste, etc. But after all these years, why don't (at least) the two situations work as you might expect? The same has been exhibited using Galeon, Netscape, XMMS, and all kinds of other applications. Why doesn't it work? Does it work for anyone else? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyong6PLtRzZbdhYRAsTtAJ9jkQt3OA5erK5oMwB7NPuUs5htgQCeIMXr ws1AHjVX+QsPFOsqDQjRDJE= =O4SD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz Thu Feb 8 02:23:34 2007 From: tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Tom Eastman) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:23:34 +1300 Subject: Converting HTML to PDF non-interactively with konqueror or mozilla In-Reply-To: <200702072357.28614.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> References: <45CA5281.8040603@uaf.edu> <200702072357.28614.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> Message-ID: wim delvaux wrote: > html2ps ? html2ps is a package available in universe. It's home is at 'http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps.html'. It looks like quite a handy package, but in my experiments just doesn't produce the result that I'm hoping for, where mozilla and konqueror both do. I wonder if I can hack it to make it do what I want, but I'm hoping there might be a way I can simply bend konqueror or mozilla to my will :-) Cheers, Tom From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 02:37:36 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500 Subject: Install VMware Server Message-ID: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, since I'd just gone through the pains and aches of installing VMware Server I thought I'd share my observations with anyone else who's interested. What is it? It creates a "virtual computer" inside your computer that can run virtually any x86 operating system that your "real" computer can. That list includes Ubuntu, Fedora Core, Debian, and, for the unwashed masses, Windows. The big advantage is that you can "play" with Linux or with Windows and do things to the operating system that you would otherwise never dream of doing. You can also easily create "backups" of your computer, simply by duplicating a few files -- this allows you to experiment and try different configurations before you actually try it on your own computer (and, I'm sure most people on this list have had to re-install some operating system or other because they messed it up). Anyway... here are my comments: 1. It works on both WIndows and Ubuntu (Linux, in general) and the virtual machines can be run under both operating systems. 2. Installation is actually quite easy, even on Windows. On Windows, you need IIS installed before you install VMware Server (hint: it's a Windows component). 3. I installed VMware Server (1.01) onto Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (note: Desktop install). You need to ensure a few packages are available before you install: i. build-essential for the compilers; ii. the latest kernel headers; and, iii. xinetd (why, I don't know but it's a dependency) This'll get you what you need: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` xinetd You also must have the VMware Server package available from: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ Download it first since it'll take a while, even on a fast connection! While you're at it, get a serial number as well from the downloads page -- you'll need it for the install. Download the package. Uncompress it: tar -zxf VM*.gz (yes, I'm lazy... make sure no other VM*.gz files are in the directory or they'll get uncompressed too ;-) cd into the newly created directory. Run the installer script: sudo ./install-vmware.pl Accept the default values & enter the serial number when prompted. 4. You're off to the races. Open VMware Server from the Applications:System Tools menu in GNOME and you can start setting up as many virtual machines as your RAM and disk space will allow. PS You might want to take a look at various sites (e.g. http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server) but be ware. They encourage you install a lot of extraneous packages and one site even provides a script to automate installation -- unfortunately, it also adds some third-party stuff that just doesn't seem to work (e.g. my shells tty1-tty6 would not become active for at least 3 minutes after boot). Use your judgement with regards to what to install! 5. Configure your VMs. You can even configure the VMs to start when the computer boots -- obviously the VMs don't become available for roughly the same time it took your host OS to boot ;-) Happy VMing. From ttmrichter at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 03:25:50 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:25:50 +0800 Subject: Upgrade to Edgy [...] sound and video format hell. PARTIALLY SOLVED In-Reply-To: <45C9CC8E.9030806@yandex.ru> References: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45C9CC8E.9030806@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1170905151.5248.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, the sound issue is solved. A painstaking examination of my backed-up /etc and the new /etc found a key difference. In the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base there are some interesting lines: # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 options snd-bt87x index=-2 options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2 options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2 options snd-usb-audio index=-2 options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2 The one for "snd-usb-audio" is not in my Dapper configuration -- either removed or never there in the first place. I replaced "index=-2" for that one with "index=0" and sound now works as expected. This seems to me, however, to be an incredibly bad architectural choice. On the one hand having USB audio devices moving to higher indices by default while on the other hand having ALSA throw fits and give up when there's no card at index 0 is a recipe for disaster. Is there somebody involved with the ALSA team here in Ubuntu who can pass up a message? (Emails to the ALSA mailing lists in the past have resulted in precisely zero acknowledgement of any kind so I'm not going to bother signing up again to post this.) Further, on the Ubuntu front, it's pretty damned bizarre that setting everything to specifically point to USB Audio in System->Preferences->Sound makes the system sounds still not work. What are the settings for if they're ignored by the very dialogue boxes that they're set in? So this leaves me now with the video format Hell. I still can't play videos in DivX/Xvid format despite having hunted and downloaded a DivX6 codec (or what was purported to be a DivX6 codec). Interestingly now the error message that pops up is different. Before I hunted down this codec it was complaining that the files (which, recall, I played only a few days ago under Dapper without problems) were in the unsupported "DivX 5" format. Now that I have this codec it complains that it's in the unsupported "Xvid" format.... I can't seem to win for losing on this one. So one outstanding question remains: how do I get Edgy in February 2007 to the point where it can do what Dapper did in July of 2006? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ttmrichter at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 04:15:41 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:15:41 +0800 Subject: Weird Sounds from Firefox (Edgy) Message-ID: <1170908141.5248.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> New behaviour from Firefox now that I've done my "upgrade" to Edgy: when I close or switch tabs it sometimes issues a weird "whistle" sound. It's not happening 100% of the time -- more like 80% -- which is weird, but it is always associated with some kind of Firefox + tabs scenario. Googling for it got me lots of pages talking about getting sound under Firefox for YouTube and the like, but no reports of sound on Firefox events. System settings have all sounds disabled but for login and logout. Nothing in Firefox's preferences gives any hint about sounds. What's the next step for getting rid of this annoying sound? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mail.list.mail at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 04:43:56 2007 From: mail.list.mail at gmail.com (jim barnes) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:43:56 -0700 Subject: Evolution - Lost Email??? In-Reply-To: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> References: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200702072143.57039.mail.list.mail@gmail.com> On Wednesday 07 February 2007 13:46, John Dangler wrote: > I had an email in draft that was critical for me to reply to. > I accidentally deleted it (yeah, I know - idiot!) > but, I cannot find that email in trash or anywhere else!! > > Is there any place to restore this from? How about ctrl-z (undo) if evolution hasn't been closed since the delete. -- Jim Barnes Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Feb 8 06:30:48 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:30:48 +0100 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker In-Reply-To: <880dece00702071640x3b0ec21awe465e51694902986@mail.gmail.com> References: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00702071640x3b0ec21awe465e51694902986@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170916248.5301.8.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 02:40 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > There's a rather simple fix that you can do to your Windows machine so > that it will read the disk: It's more likely that buying a new DVD drive would help From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Feb 7 17:46:05 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:46:05 -0800 Subject: Upgrade to Edgy causes much laptop grief: sound and video format hell. References: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87iredrhcy.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Michael T. Richter" writes: > 1. How do I get ALSA to look in the right place, or to name the USB card > properly? Post the output of lspci and /sbin/lsmod -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From kristian at zimmer428.net Thu Feb 8 07:14:56 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:14:56 +0100 Subject: Install VMware Server In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070208081456.276673e0@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ["Eric Dunbar" @ Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500] > i. build-essential for the compilers; > ii. the latest kernel headers; and, > iii. xinetd (why, I don't know but it's a dependency) Because vmware-authd is invoked using inetd. That's the component utilized for user authentication given you run VMWare Server in a real "server" environment, possibly providing (private as well as public) virtual machines for a bunch of different users. You surely want to have authentication here. ;) Cheers, Kris - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFys32cxBAPOA1m6wRAryJAKCNaoM8JfK1qu7vCted0V3bsGGzSgCeLWsp GvQjp2AifcPbLxozmoNysRw= =dFHh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martin at autotelic.com Thu Feb 8 07:15:39 2007 From: martin at autotelic.com (Dave M G) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:15:39 +0900 Subject: Amarok now doesn't edit tags properly Message-ID: <45CACE1B.2040603@autotelic.com> Ubuntu Users, I realize this isn't strictly an Ubuntu issue, but hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. After upgrading to Edgy, and Amarok 1.4 with it, editing tags has become a problem. That is, before I upgraded, I would edit MP3 file tags and it worked fine. I noticed something was wrong when I edited the tags for about 10 music files, and then loaded them onto my portable MP3 player. The player did not recognize such tags as "Title" and "Artist", and instead shows the file name. I double checked that I had, in fact, changed the tag information by once again loading the files into Amarok. They show tag information, like "Title" and "Artist" as I had edited them. However, I then loaded the files in XMMS, and it does not recognize the tag information, and, just like my portable MP3 player, defaults to using the filename to display the name of the song. So... is Amarok storing its tag information in some non-standard way? Is this a bug? Why would it work in the previous version of Amarok and not now? Any information would be greatly appreciated. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 From shettypraj at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 07:57:30 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:27:30 +0530 Subject: mounting NTFS on ubuntu Message-ID: Hi all, Kindly provide the coomand to mount NTFS on Ubuntu 6.10. I tried # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/C -t ntfs -r Though it didnt give any error, It says: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "C". Below is my patition list: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 2551 5305 22129537+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda3 5306 9729 35535780 83 Linux /dev/sda5 2551 5100 20482843+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/sda6 5101 5113 104391 83 Linux /dev/sda7 5114 5305 1542208+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Thanks in advance Pushparaj From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 08:42:04 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:42:04 +0200 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker In-Reply-To: <1170916248.5301.8.camel@chronic> References: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00702071640x3b0ec21awe465e51694902986@mail.gmail.com> <1170916248.5301.8.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <880dece00702080042ib8a31bdt83c693518ef03e3e@mail.gmail.com> On 08/02/07, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 02:40 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > There's a rather simple fix that you can do to your Windows machine so > > that it will read the disk: > > > It's more likely that buying a new DVD drive would help > > Price of Debian/Ubunutu: $0 Price of new DVD player: $50 Price of throwing away money trying to fix Windows when better alternatives are available for free: priceless. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/terriblefile/index.php http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/296/kool_and_the_gang.html From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 8 08:49:40 2007 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Curious problem trying 6.06 LTS of Kubuntu... In-Reply-To: <45C9BEC3.3020506@ncf.ca> Message-ID: <20070208084941.7761.qmail@web26015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> There seem to be lots of these quirks with te CDs supplied. Try downloading the latest from the ubuntu site and burning it yourself. You never know, it may do the trick. Brian Lunergan wrote: Morning Folks: Just received my packet with the live/install disks for this version. When I tried out one of the CDs it apparently loaded OK and got to the screen where you choose install or tryout, but I couldn't get any further along. It failed to pick up on my USB connected mouse. Is this quirk usual? How do I correct the situation other than by reconnecting the mouse to a serial or ps2 port? Not really a serious option anyway as I also have a couple of other peripherals including the printer hooked to USB ports. -- Brian Lunergan Nepean, Ontario Canada --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000711-0, 2007-02-06 Tested on: 2007-02-07 06:57:59 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Setting up a printer should not be such an issue! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyuZnSk8WqQy7AdYRAiuAAJ9q0CYd1MPJBNePN2+cfyy17KOdfQCbBget eP0PTPTK3zKUOnlSGfp2MX4= =NgKv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 09:20:07 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:20:07 -0500 Subject: mounting NTFS on ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Pushparaj The command is: mount -t ntfs /dev/device /mountpoint For example, on my laptop, which has a SATA hard drive, I use: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 However, that command provides READ ONLY access. If you want to write to an ntfs partition, install ntfs-3g. Best, -Zach On 2/8/07, Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > > Hi all, > Kindly provide the coomand to mount NTFS on Ubuntu 6.10. > I tried > # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/C -t ntfs -r > > Though it didnt give any error, It says: > You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "C". > > Below is my patition list: > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2 2551 5305 22129537+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda3 5306 9729 35535780 83 Linux > /dev/sda5 2551 5100 20482843+ b W95 FAT32 > /dev/sda6 5101 5113 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda7 5114 5305 1542208+ 82 Linux swap / > Solaris > > > Thanks in advance > Pushparaj > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.muls at telenet.be Thu Feb 8 09:41:09 2007 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:41:09 +0100 Subject: smbmount Message-ID: <200702081041.09657.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi, I had a perfectly working smbmount of an external HD connected over my home intranet. I upgraded today the packages notified by the notifier-applet and now I get the following error: amuls at geod02:~$ ls -l `which smbmount` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 709888 2007-02-06 02:25 /usr/bin/smbmount amuls at geod02:~$ sudo chmod u+s `which smbmount` Password: amuls at geod02:~$ ls -l `which smbmount` -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 709888 2007-02-06 02:25 /usr/bin/smbmount amuls at geod02:~$ mount /home/amuls/smb/hdd134/ libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root. 7627: Connection to 192.168.2.2 failed SMB connection failed amuls at geod02:~$ sudo chmod u-s `which smbmount` amuls at geod02:~$ mount /home/amuls/smb/hdd134/ smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) smbmnt failed: 1 amuls at geod02:~$ in /etc/fstab I have the entry //192.168.2.2/NetHDD /home/amuls/smb/hdd134 smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/hdd134.smbpass,noauto,users,dmask=777,fmask=777 0 0 How to solve this?? -- mvg/Alain ________________________________________________________ Alain Muls Tel +32.2.7426340 Royal Military Academy Fax +32.2.7426472 Dep CISS-ASGE alain.muls at telenet.be ________________________________________________________ From tuxman at knology.net Thu Feb 8 09:45:46 2007 From: tuxman at knology.net (mtyoung) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:45:46 -0600 Subject: What determines where GRUB is installed? Message-ID: <45CAF14A.5040109@knology.net> I have 3 hard drives on my system. Drive 0 ATA 20GB with an old Ubuntu 6.04 system, and, I believe, my original Grub. Drive 1 SATA 2 200GB with a freshly installed LinuxMint 2.1 Drive 2 SATA 1 160GB with an old Windows XP system, and I believe, my new Grub. When I originally installed Ubuntu, I'm pretty sure Grub was installed on the same drive, because changing the boot sequence in BIOS setup determines whether or not I see Grub during a boot. When I installed LinuxMint I disconnected the Ubuntu 20GB drive, to prevent any chance of it being effected. If the SATA200GB with LinuxMint is first in the boot sequence, I get an error which says that no operating system can be found. When I set the SATA160GB with XP as first in the boot sequence I get the new Grub menu, and can choose to boot XP or LinuxMint. When I set the ATA20GB with Ubuntu as first in the boot sequence I get the original Grub menu, and can choose to boot Ubuntu or XP. If I choose XP there is a quick flash of text which I don't remember every seeing before. Almost as if the old Grub sees the new Grub and then skips past it. But, to clarify, I can't read the text fast enough to really tell anything, so its a guess. I did change the physical drive connections when I installed the SATA200GB drive (because I had problems with SATA 2 working with by chipset) and this was between the times I installed Ubuntu 6.04 and LinuxMint 2.1. So, what determines the drive that Grub is installed on? Is it the first drive in the boot sequence, or first in the BIOS connection order (forgot what that's called at the moment), or is it strictly a function of the installer, and LinuxMint is just different for no good reason? I have an image backup for the XP drive, so I can restore it, but how do I force Grub to install where I want it? From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Thu Feb 8 10:32:45 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:32:45 +0000 Subject: What determines where GRUB is installed? In-Reply-To: <45CAF14A.5040109@knology.net> References: <45CAF14A.5040109@knology.net> Message-ID: <20070208103245.GB5120@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (08/02/07 03:45), mtyoung wrote: > I have 3 hard drives on my system. > > Drive 0 ATA 20GB with an old Ubuntu 6.04 system, and, I > believe, my original Grub. > Drive 1 SATA 2 200GB with a freshly installed LinuxMint 2.1 > Drive 2 SATA 1 160GB with an old Windows XP system, and I believe, > my new Grub. > > When I originally installed Ubuntu, I'm pretty sure Grub was installed > on the same drive, because changing the boot sequence in BIOS setup > determines whether or not I see Grub during a boot. > > When I installed LinuxMint I disconnected the Ubuntu 20GB drive, to > prevent any chance of it being effected. > > If the SATA200GB with LinuxMint is first in the boot sequence, I get an > error which says that no operating system can be found. > > When I set the SATA160GB with XP as first in the boot sequence I get the > new Grub menu, and can choose to boot XP or LinuxMint. > > When I set the ATA20GB with Ubuntu as first in the boot sequence I get > the original Grub menu, and can choose to boot Ubuntu or XP. If I choose > XP there is a quick flash of text which I don't remember every seeing > before. Almost as if the old Grub sees the new Grub and then skips past > it. But, to clarify, I can't read the text fast enough to really tell > anything, so its a guess. > > I did change the physical drive connections when I installed the > SATA200GB drive (because I had problems with SATA 2 working with by > chipset) and this was between the times I installed Ubuntu 6.04 and > LinuxMint 2.1. > > So, what determines the drive that Grub is installed on? Is it the first > drive in the boot sequence, or first in the BIOS connection order > (forgot what that's called at the moment), or is it strictly a function > of the installer, and LinuxMint is just different for no good reason? > > I have an image backup for the XP drive, so I can restore it, but how do > I force Grub to install where I want it? There was a thread at the end of January on the list 'Dual boot, but with two Linuxes' which will help. From Ubuntu do: $ sudo grub-install /dev/sda (or whichever) and it should pick up all the systems on the box. Failing that, you can then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 02:41:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:41:54 -0400 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> <45C9D6D7.10505@gmail.com> <7qip94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> >>> >>> I have, I couldn't figure out how to do it purely with VMPlayer, and I >>> am having trouble installing VMWare-server (it says there's already an >>> installation, which there isn't and never has been) >> >> When VMware is saying that, check if there is /etc/vmware dir existing. >> If yes, remove it. and retry to install. > > Thanks! It apparently doesn't play well with a prior version of VMPlayer. > I'd removed but not purged VMPlayer. That worked perfectly. Now to get it to work with the SATA disk... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 02:47:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:47:46 -0400 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <77520bee0702071122n4101a69bq801b290506edf22d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: >> >> Possibly - who reads EULAs :-) Probably 95% of VMWare users have no >> intention of ever using it as a server (your situation obviously being >> different). > > > That's almost certainly true (I read maybe 1/20 EULAs). > > [rant -- nothing implied about you or anyone else who's posted in this > [thread] > > However, given that there are some people (using VMware) in the OSS > community who vehemently defend Ubuntu/GNU as being in the right for > rejecting licence x, y or z as not being this or that (or compatible > with licence a, b or c) they MUST acknowledge and respect any > licencing restrictions placed upon the use of VMware Player by its > creator. True, but I also expect that any package accepted into Ubuntu be _essentially_ free (I know that multiverse specifically accepts packages that are not free enough for Debian, but afaik they still have to permit unrestricted usage by the user on a single system). Perhaps I expect too much from Ubuntu... -- derek From chanweiyee at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 11:06:42 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:06:42 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB0442.60008@gmail.com> zhihang wang wrote: > Thank you for your answer. But I am very sad because it also doesn't work. > > -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang Normally, it should work. U did look under the Applications-Internet menu, didn't U? The next best alternative I can think up of is that U look in the /usr/bin/ directory for the link to the app, and create a launcher from there. For instance, if I wanted to create a launcher for Firefox, I'd right-click on my desktop and choose "create launcher", with the command field pointing to /usr/bin/firefox, which is linked to /usr/lib/firefox/firefox (the binary file). Alternatively, U could simply create a launcher that links to the binary directly. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cp at ccil.org Thu Feb 8 11:10:06 2007 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 06:10:06 -0500 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/7/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to move my old mail from KMail to GMail. I am doing something similar with a bit of mail since the mail admin just migrated our system and screwed up my forwarding - not very good admins... I have a script running as I write this. > I configured GMail in KMail - but it couldn't authenticate. > > I also have access to an IMAP account, so I add the IMAP account to both > KMail and Thunderbird 1.5 so I can transfer mail from KMail to IMAP and then > from IMAP in Thunderbird to GMail. I think you could setup a filter and forward with either Thunderbird or Kmail, but you might have problems trying that with more than a few dozen emails - gmail might think you are spaming or your mail server won't allow it. > Is there an easy way to do this? Do you know the old joke about UNIX is user friendly, it's just choosy about who its friends are. It is easy if you know how, have the right tools and have the right services available. Since you are running Ubuntu you can use procmail, formail, your mail folders should be in mbox format and you have some way to send mail. The short version of what I am doing is: Spam filter and forward mail with procmail - and it has some loop protection to attempt to avoid those nasty problems. I should warn against trying what I am doing without knowing more about how you send mail... You should do some tests... If your mail server or smtp server doesn't allow it - you might have problems with gmail accepting mail directly from your machine. The method I use sends mail from a exim4 mail server with correctly configured DNS... One issue I heard about while surfing for solutions was that if I send a lot of mail quickly gmail will think I am spaming and start rejecting the mail. So I wanted to figure out a way to send the 2000 messages slowly. First I split the messages to individual files with a modified version of a script I found at http://www.mail-archive.com/clamav-users at lists.clamav.net/msg23366.html. I can upload it somewhere if you like. Then create a list of the files created: For example ls > list You will need a .procmailrc and .forward files which forward the mail... cp at earth:~$ cat .forward |/usr/bin/procmail And a minimal .procmailrc file that doesn't include loop protection. SHELL=/bin/sh MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log :0 * !example at gmail.com Then write a little script to send the files slowly - it waits 5 seconds before sending the next message in the list. #!/bin/sh for item in `cat list` do cat $item | formail -s procmail echo "$item" sleep 5 done I should note I still don't have the .procmailrc setup the way I want, my recipe isn't forwarding the lists with loop protection. Chuck From jonathan.mcloughlin at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 11:52:14 2007 From: jonathan.mcloughlin at gmail.com (Jonathan McLoughlin) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:52:14 +0000 Subject: World Clock Message-ID: Hey, Curious as to what other people are using as a world clock. I would like a little gnome-applet or something but cannot find anything Multiple collegues, multiple timezones, but cannot find an easy ubuntu solution. I have tried this project http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/World_Clock_Applet without success. J From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 8 12:14:10 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:14:10 -0500 Subject: Evolution - Lost Email??? In-Reply-To: <200702072143.57039.mail.list.mail@gmail.com> References: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> <200702072143.57039.mail.list.mail@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170936850.14202.194.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 21:43 -0700, jim barnes wrote: > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 13:46, John Dangler wrote: > > I had an email in draft that was critical for me to reply to. > > I accidentally deleted it (yeah, I know - idiot!) > > but, I cannot find that email in trash or anywhere else!! > > > > Is there any place to restore this from? > > > How about ctrl-z (undo) if evolution hasn't been closed since the delete. Tried that immediately after hitting the delete key; nothing. > > -- > Jim Barnes > > Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; > if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long > > Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default > From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Thu Feb 8 12:14:56 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:14:56 +0000 Subject: World Clock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070208121456.GE5120@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (08/02/07 11:52), Jonathan McLoughlin wrote: > To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions > From: Jonathan McLoughlin > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:52:14 +0000 > Subject: World Clock > Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, > not for general discussions" > > Hey, > Curious as to what other people are using as a world clock. > I would like a little gnome-applet or something but cannot find anything > Multiple collegues, multiple timezones, but cannot find an easy ubuntu solution. > I have tried this project > http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/World_Clock_Applet without success. ~$ apt-cache search clock | grep world gworldclock - Displays time and date in specified time zones kworldclock - earth watcher for KDE Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Feb 8 12:19:49 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:19:49 +0100 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path In-Reply-To: References: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <45CB1565.8030705@welcomes-you.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Carsten Aulbert wrote: >> > It should be ~/.inputrc, and the command should be: > > set expand-tilde off > > unfortunately, that didn't work either :-) ARGH, two mistakes in a tiny post, sorry, was probably feeling too sleepy yesterday afternoon. Thanks for the correction, too bad that it was not the hot thing. Carsten From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 12:47:07 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:47:07 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <45CB0442.60008@gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> <45CB0442.60008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <212696550702080447g70fcbf9ar9278a80e1edeaa7@mail.gmail.com> ok. I will try again. If I have some question I will ask you again. Thank you and happy the spring festival. On 2/8/07, Wei-Yee Chan wrote: > > zhihang wang wrote: > > Thank you for your answer. But I am very sad because it also doesn't > work. > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > zhihang wang > > Normally, it should work. 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URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 8 13:07:23 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:07:23 -0500 Subject: latest updates Message-ID: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Update notifier was turned on this morning... On giving the sudo pass, I show this... Cannot install all available updates Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. The following updates will be skipped - inux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... Anyone know what the reason for this could be? From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Thu Feb 8 13:32:52 2007 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:32:52 -0500 Subject: World Clock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170941572.13260.49.camel@pspotts> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 11:52 +0000, Jonathan McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > Curious as to what other people are using as a world clock. > I would like a little gnome-applet or something but cannot find anything > Multiple collegues, multiple timezones, but cannot find an easy ubuntu solution. > I have tried this project > http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/World_Clock_Applet without success. > > J > Jonathan, I'm using another solution: the system monitor Conky, set up with various time zones. I can send you a screenshot if you like. You could configure Conky to show nothing but the time, removing all the other system information. When I travel, I just modify the config file to highlight the time zone I'm in... If you're interested, I can also send you a copy of the clock segment of the config file I use. The Gkrellm system monitor also has a plug-in now that will display various time zones. Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 13:55:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:55:56 -0400 Subject: What determines where GRUB is installed? References: <45CAF14A.5040109@knology.net> Message-ID: mtyoung wrote: > I have an image backup for the XP drive, so I can restore it, but how do > I force Grub to install where I want it? grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/ Will put it on the MBR of your first SATA drive, using the grub configuration in /boot. If you're trying to run this from some system other than one that will have the boot images, you'd need to mount that partition, and use: grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mount-point As long as you have all the kernels in /boot, or install grub in the partition superblocks (eg, grub-install /dev/sdb1) for other linuxes, and you have all of your OSes specified in /boot/grub/menu.lst, you can boot all the systems without having to mess with the BIOS boot order. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 13:56:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:56:31 -0400 Subject: Install VMware Server References: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> <20070208081456.276673e0@n428> Message-ID: Kristian Rink wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ["Eric Dunbar" @ Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500] >> i. build-essential for the compilers; >> ii. the latest kernel headers; and, >> iii. xinetd (why, I don't know but it's a dependency) > > Because vmware-authd is invoked using inetd. That's the component > utilized for user authentication given you run VMWare Server in a real > "server" environment, possibly providing (private as well as public) > virtual machines for a bunch of different users. You surely want to > have authentication here. ;) > Yes, but Eric's been reading the same How-Tos as me, which specifically say "xinetd", not "inetd". It seems to me that it doesn't need xinetd, but while I have VMServer running, I haven't actually created a VM yet. -- derek From pd.yates at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 14:40:23 2007 From: pd.yates at gmail.com (Peter Yates) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:40:23 +0000 Subject: Evolution - Lost Email??? In-Reply-To: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> References: <1170881179.14202.178.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Did you expunge? does clicking view -> hide deleted messages (so it is unticked) do any good? On 07/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > > I had an email in draft that was critical for me to reply to. > I accidentally deleted it (yeah, I know - idiot!) > but, I cannot find that email in trash or anywhere else!! > > Is there any place to restore this from? > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:30:52 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:30:52 -0500 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know this doesn't solve your problem, but in general, I think the real strength of gmail is its user interface. If you use Kmail to access it, you may as well just keep your old email address. On 2/8/07, Chuck Peters wrote: > > On 2/7/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am trying to move my old mail from KMail to GMail. > > I am doing something similar with a bit of mail since the mail admin > just migrated our system and screwed up my forwarding - not very good > admins... I have a script running as I write this. > > > I configured GMail in KMail - but it couldn't authenticate. > > > > I also have access to an IMAP account, so I add the IMAP account to > both > > KMail and Thunderbird 1.5 so I can transfer mail from KMail to IMAP and > then > > from IMAP in Thunderbird to GMail. > > I think you could setup a filter and forward with either Thunderbird > or Kmail, but you might have problems trying that with more than a few > dozen emails - gmail might think you are spaming or your mail server > won't allow it. > > > Is there an easy way to do this? > > Do you know the old joke about UNIX is user friendly, it's just choosy > about who its friends are. It is easy if you know how, have the right > tools and have the right services available. Since you are running > Ubuntu you can use procmail, formail, your mail folders should be in > mbox format and you have some way to send mail. > > The short version of what I am doing is: > Spam filter and forward mail with procmail - and it has some loop > protection to attempt to avoid those nasty problems. > > I should warn against trying what I am doing without knowing more > about how you send mail... You should do some tests... If your mail > server or smtp server doesn't allow it - you might have problems with > gmail accepting mail directly from your machine. The method I use > sends mail from a exim4 mail server with correctly configured DNS... > > One issue I heard about while surfing for solutions was that if I send > a lot of mail quickly gmail will think I am spaming and start > rejecting the mail. So I wanted to figure out a way to send the 2000 > messages slowly. > > First I split the messages to individual files with a modified version > of a script I found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/clamav-users at lists.clamav.net/msg23366.html. > I can upload it somewhere if you like. > > Then create a list of the files created: > For example > ls > list > > You will need a .procmailrc and .forward files which forward the mail... > cp at earth:~$ cat .forward > |/usr/bin/procmail > > And a minimal .procmailrc file that doesn't include loop protection. > > > SHELL=/bin/sh > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail > PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail > LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log > > :0 > * > !example at gmail.com > > > Then write a little script to send the files slowly - it waits 5 > seconds before sending the next message in the list. > > #!/bin/sh > > for item in `cat list` > do > > cat $item | formail -s procmail > echo "$item" > sleep 5 > > done > > > I should note I still don't have the .procmailrc setup the way I want, > my recipe isn't forwarding the lists with loop protection. > > > Chuck > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:33:37 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:33:37 -0500 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702080447g70fcbf9ar9278a80e1edeaa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> <45CB0442.60008@gmail.com> <212696550702080447g70fcbf9ar9278a80e1edeaa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like you may have actually deleted firefox, if you can't find it anywhere. If that's the case, just apt-get install firefox, that should restore it to the Internet menu. If it's already installed, you should be able to use Alacarte to restore it to the internet menu, and then drag the symbolic link from the internet menu to the bar. -Zach On 2/8/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > ok. I will try again. If I have some question I will ask you again. Thank > you and happy the spring festival. > On 2/8/07, Wei-Yee Chan wrote: > > > zhihang wang wrote: > > > Thank you for your answer. But I am very sad because it also doesn't > > work. > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards > > > zhihang wang > > > > Normally, it should work. U did look under the Applications-Internet > > menu, didn't U? > > > > The next best alternative I can think up of is that U look in the > > /usr/bin/ directory for the link to the app, and create a launcher from > > there. > > > > For instance, if I wanted to create a launcher for Firefox, I'd > > right-click on my desktop and choose "create launcher", with the command > > > > field pointing to /usr/bin/firefox, which is linked to > > /usr/lib/firefox/firefox (the binary file). > > > > Alternatively, U could simply create a launcher that links to the binary > > directly. > > > > Regards, > > > > Wei-Yee Chan > > http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:34:24 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:34:24 -0500 Subject: latest updates In-Reply-To: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> References: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Message-ID: What version of Ubuntu are you running? Maybe you have repos in sources.listfor a different version? On 2/8/07, John Dangler wrote: > > Update notifier was turned on this morning... > On giving the sudo pass, I show this... > Cannot install all available updates > > Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function > "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo > apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. > > The following updates will be skipped - > > inux-image-386 > linux-restricted-modules-386 > > I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... > Anyone know what the reason for this could be? > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob58523 at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:41:07 2007 From: bob58523 at gmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:41:07 +0200 Subject: help with new monitor Message-ID: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> HI All, Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that I can get higher resolutions? Let me re-phrase that, I installed a new monitor (LCD) which has higher resolutions than 1024 x 768. But when I go to the screen resolutions under system, preferences it will only let me go as high as 1024 x 768. Could someone point me in the right direction. I did try the help section and typed changing screen resolutions, but it only directs me to the screen resolution is prefs. thanks in advance, Bob From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:43:18 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:43:18 -0500 Subject: help with new monitor In-Reply-To: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> References: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg On 2/8/07, Bob Schmidt wrote: > > HI All, > > Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that I can get > higher resolutions? Let me re-phrase that, I installed a new monitor > (LCD) which has higher resolutions than 1024 x 768. > > But when I go to the screen resolutions under system, preferences it > will only let me go as high as 1024 x 768. Could someone point me in the > right direction. I did try the help section and typed changing screen > resolutions, but it only directs me to the screen resolution is prefs. > > thanks in advance, > Bob > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob58523 at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:44:10 2007 From: bob58523 at gmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:44:10 +0200 Subject: help with monitor again Message-ID: <45CB454A.2010607@gmail.com> Oops... Sorry, I didn't give you the rest on the information about my problem. I am running ubuntu ver 6.10 with an nvidia 128mb video card with the nvidia driver and beryl (the newest version available) thanks, bob From ed.smits at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:50:01 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:50:01 -0500 Subject: latest updates In-Reply-To: References: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Message-ID: No, I have the same on 2 desktops running Edgy, no fancy repos. In my case the same problem "The list of changes is not yet available" - and since we're talking kernels here I also have a need to upgrade the headers at the same time (I run VMWare), and although they are on the list the checkbox is blank and I can't manually tell it to add them. Safer to not upgrade until this is sorted out. ED On 2/8/07, Zachary Stern wrote: > What version of Ubuntu are you running? Maybe you have repos in sources.list > for a different version? > > > On 2/8/07, John Dangler < jdangler at atlantic.net> wrote: > > Update notifier was turned on this morning... > > On giving the sudo pass, I show this... > > Cannot install all available updates > > > > Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function > > "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo > > apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. > > > > The following updates will be skipped - > > > > inux-image-386 > > linux-restricted-modules-386 > > > > I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... > > Anyone know what the reason for this could be? > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Zach Stern > http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com > (Its kinda crappy at the moment) > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > From chanweiyee at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:52:53 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:52:53 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702080447g70fcbf9ar9278a80e1edeaa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <45C9AEEE.1040006@gmail.com> <212696550702071749t3e36b8d1qf3609a2b03a94415@mail.gmail.com> <45CB0442.60008@gmail.com> <212696550702080447g70fcbf9ar9278a80e1edeaa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB4755.3030202@gmail.com> zhihang wang wrote: > ok. I will try again. If I have some question I will ask you again. > Thank you and happy the spring festival. > > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > zhihang wang > Sure, no problem at all. Happy lunar new year to U too. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 15:51:00 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:51:00 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <77520bee0702071122n4101a69bq801b290506edf22d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB46E4.9000007@gmail.com> > True, but I also expect that any package accepted into Ubuntu be > _essentially_ free (I know that multiverse specifically accepts packages > that are not free enough for Debian, but afaik they still have to permit > unrestricted usage by the user on a single system). Perhaps I expect too > much from Ubuntu... What do you mean by " _essentially_ free" ? do you pay for any package in Universe or Multiverse? As to me, I don't care if there are non GPL free software in those repositories. People are not obliged to use them, and people who think there useful can easily get them. So why the heck should they be removed from those repositories ? From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 16:00:13 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:00:13 -0500 Subject: evolution default view? Message-ID: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From m.lutzer at gmx.de Thu Feb 8 16:07:22 2007 From: m.lutzer at gmx.de (Markus Lutzer) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:07:22 +0100 Subject: Serial ATA Liteon DVD Burner is not recognized Message-ID: <45CB4ABA.40601@gmx.de> I am using Ubuntu (Edgy) for some time without any problem installed on a SATA harddisk connected to an external SATA controller with Sil3112 chipset. Edgy: Yesterday I purchased a Liteon SH-16A DVD burner with SATA interface. After I connected it to the SATA controller Ubuntu Edgy did not boot anymore. It stops directly after the splash screen shows up and does not do any disk activity. Also other distributions had problems accessing the harddisk which was either very slow or did not worked out at all. (Sorry, don't have the exact error messages, it was asking to use irqpoll kernel option and might had some IRQ problems but I did not managed to solve it. Could get specific information if requested.) Disconnecting the DVD burner again solved the problem. Windows also installed on the same SATA harddisk runs without any problem and is able to use the DVD burner. Feisty: Next I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.20 from Feisty and Ubuntu does boot again and runs quite very well. But it seems not to recognize the SATA DVD burner at all. I could also not find any useful error message. Any help is very appreciated!! The file /var/log/dmesg and output from "lspci -vv" are following: Interesting entry from "lspci -vv": 00:0c.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- 4096 [ 0.000000] Normal 4096 -> 114668 [ 0.000000] HighMem 114668 -> 114668 [ 0.000000] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges [ 0.000000] 0: 0 -> 114668 [ 0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 114668 [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 0 pages reserved [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0 [ 0.000000] Normal zone: 863 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] Normal zone: 109709 pages, LIFO batch:31 [ 0.000000] HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] DMI 2.3 present. [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS ) @ 0x000f5a90 [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDT (v001 ASUS CUBX-L 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1bfec000 [ 0.000000] ACPI: FADT (v001 ASUS CUBX-L 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1bfec080 [ 0.000000] ACPI: BOOT (v001 ASUS CUBX-L 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1bfec040 [ 0.000000] ACPI: DSDT (v001 ASUS CUBX-L 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x00000000 [ 0.000000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xe408 [ 0.000000] Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 1c000000:e3ff0000) [ 0.000000] Detected 1104.199 MHz processor. [ 27.656765] Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 113773 [ 27.656774] Kernel command line: root=UUID=cac3a6b7-4b12-44f7-91a5-02cb33db0e81 ro quiet splash [ 27.657154] Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic" [ 27.657176] mapped APIC to ffffd000 (0138a000) [ 27.657184] Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. [ 27.657190] Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. [ 27.657211] Initializing CPU#0 [ 27.657311] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes) [ 27.658908] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 [ 27.660165] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [ 27.661937] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) [ 27.704592] Memory: 442724k/458672k available (1975k kernel code, 15420k reserved, 878k data, 324k init, 0k highmem) [ 27.704614] virtual kernel memory layout: [ 27.704616] fixmap : 0xfff4e000 - 0xfffff000 ( 708 kB) [ 27.704619] pkmap : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000 (4096 kB) [ 27.704622] vmalloc : 0xdc800000 - 0xff7fe000 ( 559 MB) [ 27.704624] lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xdbfec000 ( 447 MB) [ 27.704627] .init : 0xc03cf000 - 0xc0420000 ( 324 kB) [ 27.704630] .data : 0xc02edd14 - 0xc03c96d4 ( 878 kB) [ 27.704632] .text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc02edd14 (1975 kB) [ 27.704639] Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. [ 27.781264] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 2209.89 BogoMIPS (lpj=4419795) [ 27.781349] Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized [ 27.781365] SELinux: Disabled at boot. [ 27.781398] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 [ 27.781666] CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 [ 27.781687] CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K [ 27.781693] CPU: L2 cache: 256K [ 27.781699] CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000040 00000000 00000000 00000000 [ 27.781744] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. [ 27.797437] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code [ 27.797752] Freeing SMP alternatives: 11k freed [ 27.797903] ACPI: Core revision 20060707 [ 27.800971] ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0e20) [ 27.801340] CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a [ 27.801352] SMP motherboard not detected. [ 27.801357] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. [ 27.801453] Brought up 1 CPUs [ 27.801989] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware [ 27.802164] NET: Registered protocol family 16 [ 27.802393] EISA bus registered [ 27.802405] ACPI: bus type pci registered [ 27.803872] PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf08c0, last bus=1 [ 27.803877] PCI: Using configuration type 1 [ 27.803881] Setting up standard PCI resources [ 27.817148] ACPI: Interpreter enabled [ 27.817160] ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing [ 27.818360] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) [ 27.818759] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15) [ 27.819142] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) [ 27.819524] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) [ 27.819845] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) [ 27.819858] PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) [ 27.820200] ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0 [ 27.820678] * Found PM-Timer Bug on the chipset. Due to workarounds for a bug, [ 27.820682] * this clock source is slow. Consider trying other clock sources [ 27.820726] PCI quirk: region e400-e43f claimed by PIIX4 ACPI [ 27.820733] PCI quirk: region e800-e80f claimed by PIIX4 SMB [ 27.821193] Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0 [ 27.821270] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] [ 27.831212] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay [ 27.831239] pnp: PnP ACPI init [ 27.838229] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 14 devices [ 27.838242] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP [ 27.838359] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing [ 27.838366] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report [ 27.840151] PCI: BIOS reporting unknown device 00:58 [ 27.840155] PCI: Device 0000:00:0b.1 not found by BIOS [ 27.841975] pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xe400-0xe43f could not be reserved [ 27.841982] pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xe800-0xe80f has been reserved [ 27.842530] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0 [ 27.842536] IO window: disabled. [ 27.842544] MEM window: d6000000-d7dfffff [ 27.842551] PREFETCH window: d7f00000-e3ffffff [ 27.842618] NET: Registered protocol family 2 [ 27.881411] IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) [ 27.881613] TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) [ 27.882026] TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) [ 27.882280] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 8192) [ 27.882287] TCP reno registered [ 27.893558] checking if image is initramfs... it is [ 29.211732] Freeing initrd memory: 7779k freed [ 29.212252] Simple Boot Flag at 0x3a set to 0x1 [ 29.212672] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [ 29.212734] audit(1170940794.740:1): initialized [ 29.213029] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 [ 29.213081] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) [ 29.213196] io scheduler noop registered [ 29.213202] io scheduler anticipatory registered [ 29.213207] io scheduler deadline registered [ 29.213229] io scheduler cfq registered (default) [ 29.213248] Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. 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[ 29.675330] TCP cubic registered [ 29.675348] NET: Registered protocol family 1 [ 29.675361] NET: Registered protocol family 8 [ 29.675365] NET: Registered protocol family 20 [ 29.675431] Using IPI No-Shortcut mode [ 29.675564] ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) [ 29.676539] Time: tsc clocksource has been installed. [ 29.676787] Freeing unused kernel memory: 324k freed [ 29.696905] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 [ 31.213087] Capability LSM initialized [ 31.249541] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised: dm-devel at redhat.com [ 31.305131] ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2]) [ 31.305143] ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports 8 throttling states) [ 31.440802] md: linear personality registered for level -1 [ 31.468409] md: multipath personality registered for level -4 [ 31.474000] md: raid0 personality registered for level 0 [ 31.481386] md: raid1 personality registered for level 1 [ 31.486679] raid5: automatically using best checksumming function: pIII_sse [ 31.503800] pIII_sse : 2196.000 MB/sec [ 31.503805] raid5: using function: pIII_sse (2196.000 MB/sec) [ 31.575888] raid6: int32x1 338 MB/s [ 31.643886] raid6: int32x2 397 MB/s [ 31.711744] raid6: int32x4 320 MB/s [ 31.779850] raid6: int32x8 286 MB/s [ 31.847679] raid6: mmxx1 1001 MB/s [ 31.915671] raid6: mmxx2 1253 MB/s [ 31.983612] raid6: sse1x1 884 MB/s [ 32.051602] raid6: sse1x2 1242 MB/s [ 32.051606] raid6: using algorithm sse1x2 (1242 MB/s) [ 32.051613] md: raid6 personality registered for level 6 [ 32.051618] md: raid5 personality registered for level 5 [ 32.051622] md: raid4 personality registered for level 4 [ 32.132670] md: raid10 personality registered for level 10 [ 33.115895] SCSI subsystem initialized [ 33.130986] libata version 2.00 loaded. [ 33.140580] ata_piix 0000:00:04.1: version 2.00ac7 [ 33.140721] ata1: PATA max UDMA/33 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0xD800 irq 14 [ 33.140780] ata2: PATA max UDMA/33 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xD808 irq 15 [ 33.140808] scsi0 : ata_piix [ 33.163054] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs [ 33.163099] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub [ 33.163169] usbcore: registered new device driver usb [ 33.166145] USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0 [ 33.292661] ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394' [ 33.451501] ata1.00: ATAPI, max UDMA/33 [ 33.607398] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/33 [ 33.607428] scsi1 : ata_piix [ 6.108000] Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed. [ 6.108000] scsi 0:0:0:0: CD-ROM JLMS XJ-HD163 GH5Y PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [ 6.116000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 9 [ 6.116000] PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered [ 6.116000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:04.2[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 [ 6.116000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: UHCI Host Controller [ 6.116000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 [ 6.116000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: irq 9, io base 0x0000d400 [ 6.120000] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 6.120000] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 6.120000] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected [ 6.148000] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray [ 6.148000] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [ 6.148000] sr 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 [ 6.160000] sr 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 5 [ 6.224000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10 [ 6.224000] PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered [ 6.224000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 [ 6.224000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: UHCI Host Controller [ 6.224000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 [ 6.224000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: irq 10, io base 0x0000b800 [ 6.224000] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 6.224000] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 6.224000] hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected [ 6.328000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5 [ 6.328000] PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered [ 6.328000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.1[b] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 [ 6.328000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: UHCI Host Controller [ 6.328000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 [ 6.328000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: irq 5, io base 0x0000b400 [ 6.328000] usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 6.328000] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 6.328000] hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected [ 6.432000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.2[C] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 [ 6.432000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.2: EHCI Host Controller [ 6.432000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 [ 6.432000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.2: irq 9, io mem 0xd5000000 [ 6.432000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 [ 6.432000] usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 6.432000] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 6.432000] hub 4-0:1.0: 4 ports detected [ 6.464000] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 6.536000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.3[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 [ 6.588000] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[10] MMIO=[d4800000-d48007ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/8] [ 6.596000] sata_sil 0000:00:0c.0: version 2.0 [ 6.596000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 [ 6.596000] PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered [ 6.596000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0c.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 [ 6.596000] ata3: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xDC996080 ctl 0xDC99608A bmdma 0xDC996000 irq 11 [ 6.596000] ata4: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xDC9960C0 ctl 0xDC9960CA bmdma 0xDC996008 irq 11 [ 6.596000] scsi2 : sata_sil [ 6.648000] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 6.648000] hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found [ 6.652000] hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected [ 7.176000] ata3: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 7.184000] ata3.00: ATA-6, max UDMA/133, 390721968 sectors: LBA48 [ 7.184000] ata3.00: ata3: dev 0 multi count 16 [ 7.192000] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/100 [ 7.192000] scsi3 : sata_sil [ 7.660000] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 7.700000] usb 4-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 [ 7.828000] ata4.00: zero err_mask for failed internal command, assuming AC_ERR_OTHER [ 7.828000] ata4.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x100) [ 7.832000] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 7.832000] hub 4-2:1.0: USB hub found [ 7.832000] hub 4-2:1.0: 4 ports detected [ 7.868000] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[001106664567594a] [ 8.180000] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 8.372000] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 8.576000] usb 4-2.3: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [ 8.652000] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 8.792000] usb 4-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 8.820000] ata4.00: zero err_mask for failed internal command, assuming AC_ERR_OTHER [ 8.820000] ata4.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x100) [ 8.992000] usb 4-2.4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 [ 9.084000] usb 4-2.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 9.120000] usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual [ 9.132000] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... [ 9.132000] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [ 9.132000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage [ 9.132000] USB Mass Storage support registered. [ 9.132000] usb-storage: device found at 5 [ 9.132000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [ 9.644000] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 9.812000] ata4.00: zero err_mask for failed internal command, assuming AC_ERR_OTHER [ 9.812000] ata4.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x100) [ 10.636000] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 10.636000] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST3200822AS 3.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [ 10.636000] scsi 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [ 10.636000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 [ 10.636000] 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html [ 10.636000] 0000:00:0a.0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at dc8e2000. [ 10.680000] SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) [ 10.680000] sda: Write Protect is off [ 10.680000] sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 [ 10.680000] SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA [ 10.684000] SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) [ 10.684000] sda: Write Protect is off [ 10.684000] sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 [ 10.684000] SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA [ 10.684000] sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 [ 10.712000] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda [ 11.004000] ReiserFS: sda2: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal [ 11.004000] ReiserFS: sda2: using ordered data mode [ 11.020000] ReiserFS: sda2: journal params: device sda2, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30 [ 11.024000] ReiserFS: sda2: checking transaction log (sda2) [ 11.060000] ReiserFS: sda2: Using r5 hash to sort names [ 14.132000] usb-storage: device scan complete [ 14.660000] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access ST340083 2A 3.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 [ 14.660000] SCSI device sdb: 781422768 512-byte hdwr sectors (400088 MB) [ 14.660000] sdb: Write Protect is off [ 14.660000] sdb: Mode Sense: 10 00 00 00 [ 14.660000] sdb: assuming drive cache: write through [ 14.664000] SCSI device sdb: 781422768 512-byte hdwr sectors (400088 MB) [ 14.664000] sdb: Write Protect is off [ 14.664000] sdb: Mode Sense: 10 00 00 00 [ 14.664000] sdb: assuming drive cache: write through [ 14.664000] sdb: sdb1 [ 14.688000] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb [ 14.688000] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [ 24.224000] eth0: setting half-duplex. [ 25.108000] NET: Registered protocol family 10 [ 25.108000] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [ 27.324000] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 [ 27.348000] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 [ 27.952000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones [ 27.976000] input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input1 [ 28.008000] piix4_smbus 0000:00:04.3: Found 0000:00:04.3 device [ 28.520000] agpgart: Detected an Intel 440BX Chipset. [ 28.524000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe4000000 [ 28.808000] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [ 29.468000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 [ 29.468000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9631 Thu Nov 9 17:38:10 PST 2006 [ 29.692000] input: ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input2 [ 30.484000] drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x0100 [ 30.484000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp [ 30.484000] drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver [ 30.536000] parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. [ 30.536000] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x77, irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA] [ 30.688000] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M [ 30.724000] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 [ 30.760000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0d.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 [ 30.876000] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [ 31.980000] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). [ 32.188000] Adding 2048276k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/9050f562-7ecd-43b3-8d73-266ee8df2484. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2048276k [ 35.884000] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 62.484000] ReiserFS: dm-2: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal [ 62.484000] ReiserFS: dm-2: using ordered data mode [ 62.488000] ReiserFS: dm-2: journal params: device dm-2, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30 [ 62.492000] ReiserFS: dm-2: checking transaction log (dm-2) [ 62.544000] ReiserFS: dm-2: Using r5 hash to sort names [ 62.652000] Adding 2048276k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/9050f562-7ecd-43b3-8d73-266ee8df2484. Priority:-2 extents:1 across:2048276k From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 16:16:02 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:16:02 -0800 Subject: latest updates In-Reply-To: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> References: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > Update notifier was turned on this morning... > On giving the sudo pass, I show this... > Cannot install all available updates > > Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function > "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo > apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. > > The following updates will be skipped - > > inux-image-386 > linux-restricted-modules-386 > > I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... > Anyone know what the reason for this could be? > > Same here Dapper 6.0.61. I am applying the changes via aptitude (sudo aptitude dist-upgrade) on a test machine now & will post back after the reboot on that machine. From ed.smits at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 16:17:26 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:17:26 -0500 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy Message-ID: I have 2 Dell laptops, both running Edgy, roughly similar hardware. The older one has been running Dapper and now Edgy for 8+ months, and I am used to it's behaviour. On both laptops I have System Monitor in my top panel, set to show processor, network and load. On the older laptop when I'm not doing anything, and especially when I have no browser etc open I see little or no network traffic, which is at it should be (other than Synaptic Update and time/weather checks). However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot of network traffic I can't account for. 1) anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? 2) what would be the best tool to try and monitor/analyze this traffic, preferably GUI based if possible. Thanks ED From bob58523 at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 16:28:56 2007 From: bob58523 at gmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:28:56 +0200 Subject: help with new monitor In-Reply-To: References: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB4FC8.9030407@gmail.com> Of I am using the nvidia driver from nvidia do I still need to do this? Zachary Stern wrote: > Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > On 2/8/07, *Bob Schmidt* > wrote: > > HI All, > > Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that I > can get > higher resolutions? Let me re-phrase that, I installed a new monitor > (LCD) which has higher resolutions than 1024 x 768. > > But when I go to the screen resolutions under system, preferences it > will only let me go as high as 1024 x 768. Could someone point me > in the > right direction. I did try the help section and typed changing screen > resolutions, but it only directs me to the screen resolution is prefs. > > thanks in advance, > Bob > From cb at lim.nl Thu Feb 8 16:43:57 2007 From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:43:57 +0100 Subject: help with new monitor In-Reply-To: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> References: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/8/07, Bob Schmidt wrote: > Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that I can get > higher resolutions? What graphics card to have? 'lspci' will tell you. I have an Intel 915G, and to get 1200x1080 I had to install a little kludge called 915resolution and edit xorg.conf accordingly. I think the wiki has the details if this pertains to you... -- Colin Brace Amsterdam From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 16:55:05 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:55:05 -0500 Subject: Install VMware Server In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> <20070208081456.276673e0@n428> Message-ID: <77520bee0702080855v4a859838v167c8e4b2bd35a65@mail.gmail.com> On 08/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Kristian Rink wrote: > > > ["Eric Dunbar" @ Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500] > >> i. build-essential for the compilers; > >> ii. the latest kernel headers; and, > >> iii. xinetd (why, I don't know but it's a dependency) > > > > Because vmware-authd is invoked using inetd. That's the component > > utilized for user authentication given you run VMWare Server in a real > > "server" environment, possibly providing (private as well as public) > > virtual machines for a bunch of different users. You surely want to > > have authentication here. ;) > > > Yes, but Eric's been reading the same How-Tos as me, which specifically > say "xinetd", not "inetd". It seems to me that it doesn't need xinetd, but > while I have VMServer running, I haven't actually created a VM yet. I just installed xinetd because that's all that was available in the repository and, I wanted to keep everything as close to a pure 6.06 LTS install as possible. Also, supposedly from xinetd's website (it's down at the moment): "xinetd is a secure replacement for inetd" Eric. From mail at fleming41.me.uk Thu Feb 8 16:57:25 2007 From: mail at fleming41.me.uk (Bill Fleming) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:57:25 -0000 Subject: Internet connection problem with 6.10 and ADSL modem/router Message-ID: <000601c74ba2$3677e240$0301a8c0@sony> I have installed Ubuntu version 6.10 as dual boot. All went well except that the internet connection does not seem to work for all by one website. I'm using a D-Link ADSL modem/router which works well with Windows XP, Internet Explorer and Outlook But when running Firefox the waiting circle spins for a couple of minutes then gives me an error message to say the connection has timed out and the requested website did not respond in time. This happens with www.ubuntu.com as well as every other URL I have tried, except one. I have followed the setup instructions in Ubuntu and rechecked the modem/router settings from Ubuntu. I've tested the connection with Ping from within Firefox and it seems to work OK. Strangely, the websit which works is www.BP.com, why I just don't know, but when that site offered to upgrade my flash software the same problem arose. I'm a green as grass newbie to Ubuntu, this being my first excursion into Linux. I have set up my email account in Evolution, but send and receive produces the same error message, "Could not connect to pop.dsl.pipex.com Connection timed out. This laptop is connected to the modem/router with Ubuntu 6.10 installed on the other machine. I would much appreciate any help anyone can give me. Thanks. Bill Fleming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 16:57:51 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:57:51 -0800 Subject: [Followup] Re: latest updates In-Reply-To: References: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > John Dangler wrote: >> Update notifier was turned on this morning... >> On giving the sudo pass, I show this... >> Cannot install all available updates >> >> Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function >> "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo >> apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. >> >> The following updates will be skipped - >> >> inux-image-386 >> linux-restricted-modules-386 >> >> I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... >> Anyone know what the reason for this could be? >> >> > > Same here Dapper 6.0.61. I am applying the changes via aptitude (sudo > aptitude dist-upgrade) on a test machine now & will post back after the > reboot on that machine. > > > > > On the test machine I simply kept doing sudo aptitude dist-upgrade until if finally cleaned out all of the old linux images and finally gave me no further updates/dependencies. Following all of that I no longer show the 2.6.15-28-386 msg. The system is working just fine at Kernel 2.6.15-27-386 & has been rebooted twice in the process. I did keep a log of all of the terminal outputs. However it is rather long so I'll not post unless you folks want me to. From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Feb 8 17:25:09 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:25:09 -0500 Subject: Boot from external USB drive? References: <87y7ndwui8.fsf@valverde.peloton> <1170621183.5033.35.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <87ps8kftoq.fsf@valverde.peloton> Thanks, gentlemen... "James Silverton" <.jim.silverton at comcast.net> writes: > > It will work if you can set your BIOS to boot from a USB disc. I > don't think I can, more's the pity :-) I can... "Mark Warner" writes: > It's simple, *if* your machine's bios can be set to boot to usb-hdd > before hdd. Just install to the drive, and then tell the installer to > install grub to the mbr of the *external* drive (the one you installed > Feisty on), *not* hda. Dunno about Feisty, but the Dapper and Edgy Live > CDs didn't give you this capability with the grub installation -- the > Alternate CD was required. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me; I'm getting the GRUB Error 17 described here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=383525 If the issue is in fact slow usb response, maybe I'd fare better with a pendrive? I realize it's still USB, of course... -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl Thu Feb 8 17:26:08 2007 From: ubuntuusers0702 at melvex.xs4all.nl (Bastian) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:26:08 +0100 Subject: what to use instead of skype? In-Reply-To: <1170894637.20007.10.camel@localhost> References: <1168035175.5619.37.camel@localhost> <1168209094.14724.10.camel@localhost> <1170894637.20007.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070208172614.2FFF94C3E7@melvex.xs4all.nl> Matt Price schreef: > On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 23:31 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > >> So Matt, did you find anything that worked okay? >> >> > hi duncan, semester started on the day you wrote this and I lost track > of my mail. no, I did not find anything yet, and I'm just plain > discouraged. at the moment I'm considering using windows in vmware -- > only because my folks are all windows users so the only real option for > them right now is skype. sigh. > m > > > >> Duncan >> >> www.openwengo.org linux, windows & mac - open source - SIP standard Bastian From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Thu Feb 8 17:51:28 2007 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:51:28 +0100 Subject: Tomcat + Firewall question Message-ID: <45CB6320.1080807@uni-graz.at> Hi, does somebody have experience with Tomcat and Fwbuilder? My problem is that when I configure my firewall and open all the relevants ports (so far as I know) for tomcat, it takes him 5 minutes for startup and shutdown. All the firewall logs are on but I still can't see for what reason it takes so long ... Any hints? TIA Dieter From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Thu Feb 8 17:52:58 2007 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:52:58 +0100 Subject: help with monitor again In-Reply-To: <45CB454A.2010607@gmail.com> References: <45CB454A.2010607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB637A.8040006@kaiser-linux.li> Bob Schmidt wrote: > Oops... > > Sorry, I didn't give you the rest on the information about my problem. I > am running ubuntu ver 6.10 with an nvidia 128mb video card with the > nvidia driver and beryl (the newest version available) > > thanks, > bob > I am running the nvidia driver at a resolution of 2560x1024 :-) Try re-installing/reconfigureing the nvidia driver. If you use the nvidia .dep a "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx" should be the command you want, I think. If you downloaded the binary from nvidia, just run the install again. Now, I remember, I had to edit the xorg.conf file to get my 2 monitors running. Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From diesch at spamfence.net Thu Feb 8 05:19:49 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:19:49 +0100 Subject: local deb mirror In-Reply-To: <1170844019.7929.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Michael T. Richter's message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:26:59 +0800") References: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> <1170844019.7929.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87fy9h6xai.fsf@spamfence.net> "Michael T. Richter" wrote: > • It's not exactly disk space cheap. A full mirror costs close to 200GB. My > partial mirror (Edgy and Dapper, i386 only) takes up most of my 80GB > external drive. I guess that's including sources? Edgy i386 binary takes about 16GB here, Dapper had about 12 GB. Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Thu Feb 8 05:25:46 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:25:46 +0100 Subject: mounting card on internal reader? In-Reply-To: <1170862740.10151.28.camel@localhost> (Matt Price's message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:39:00 -0500") References: <1170862740.10151.28.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <87bqk56x0l.fsf@spamfence.net> Matt Price wrote: > Hi, > > I have a multi-card reader /usb port in the floppy slot on my computer, > and I'd like to have the cards I insert there mounted automatically. > When I insert a usb flash drive or other type of medium, > gnome-volume-manager detects the dev event, I guess, and automatically > mounts the volume nad displays it in nautilus. I'd like this to happen > with my internal card reader as well, but while the card insertion IS > detected by the system, as dmesg shows: > [66680.274071] SCSI device sde: 124160 512-byte hdwr sectors (64 MB) > [66680.276688] sde: Write Protect is off > [66680.276693] sde: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 > [66680.276697] sde: assuming drive cache: write through > > the card isn't automaounted. anyone have any idea why that's the case, > or what I might do to correct it? do I need some kind of a udev rule? > THis is on ubuntu feisty, amd64, so I think of it as a gnome issue I > guess. Maybe it's not detected as a removable disc so pmount doesn't mount it. Try to add /dev/sde to /etc/pmount.allow . Florian -- From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 18:09:29 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:09:29 -0500 Subject: what to use instead of skype? In-Reply-To: <20070208172614.2FFF94C3E7@melvex.xs4all.nl> References: <1168035175.5619.37.camel@localhost> <1168209094.14724.10.camel@localhost> <1170894637.20007.10.camel@localhost> <20070208172614.2FFF94C3E7@melvex.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1170958169.5965.27.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 18:26 +0100, Bastian wrote: > Matt Price schreef: > > On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 23:31 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > > > >> So Matt, did you find anything that worked okay? > >> > >> > > hi duncan, semester started on the day you wrote this and I lost track > > of my mail. no, I did not find anything yet, and I'm just plain > > discouraged. at the moment I'm considering using windows in vmware -- > > only because my folks are all windows users so the only real option for > > them right now is skype. sigh. > > m > > > > > > > >> Duncan > >> > >> > www.openwengo.org > linux, windows & mac - open source - SIP standard > hmm. I did try it before but had numerous crashes. seems to be working much better on feisty now, with 2.0.0.-rc5 (a bit behind I guess). I will try it out (need a webcam though). > > Bastian > > > > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have an audio video monitor which works well but there are parties in this ocnfiguration who feel uncomfortable with that set up. so I've been asked to hook up a video camera to a laptop to use as a video monitor. sooo.. what would be the best way to do this? would you use something like wengophone with a webcam (or better, can you do video chat with a proper video camera connected via firewire? then we couldget some decent focus).? Or should I somehow screencast the images from my screen (using what, one of those desktop exporters/ not sure). anyway just looking for advice. thx, matt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have an audio video monitor which > works well but there are parties in this ocnfiguration who feel > uncomfortable with that set up. so I've been asked to hook up a video > camera to a laptop to use as a video monitor. > > sooo.. what would be the best way to do this? would you use something > like wengophone with a webcam (or better, can you do video chat with a > proper video camera connected via firewire? then we couldget some > decent focus).? Or should I somehow screencast the images from my > screen (using what, one of those desktop exporters/ not sure). Sounds like those $100 Walmart cameras is what you need; a separate system, without concern for downtime, someone logging you out or anything else; just plug it in, and go next door. Something like this is probably better as a standalone system, aye? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFy2o/6PLtRzZbdhYRAjfpAJ0T81mqz7/lepdfvazyjme+qunclwCfcvKQ 1EQ0NMJLTpnWhGgfCjkC/bU= =dkvF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 18:23:13 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:23:13 -0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > On 2/7/07, Janne Jokitalo wrote: >> >> zhihang wang wrote: >> > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME >> panel. >> > How to recover it? >> >> Hi there, >> >> you can either right-click on the panel and choose Add to Panel, under >> which >> you should go to Application Launcher sub-menu. There you are shown the >> whole Applications menu, from which you can drag'n'drop the icons in place >> or choose them and hit Add button on the low right. Or, just simply go to >> Applications menu (alt+F1) and right-click on wanted icons, and choose >> 'Add >> this launcher to Panel' option. >> >> Hope these work for you. :) >> >> >> -- >> Jaska zhihang wang wrote: > But there is not the firefox icon in the *Application Launcher* sub-menu. I > use > sudo apt-get remove firefox > to remove the firefox 1.0.9 and I installed the firefox 2.0. > Now I can use the firefox 2.0 by >>firefox > But I can't find the icon in the Application Launcher. Right click on the Gnome panel click Add to panel click Custom applicaton launcher Under Name: enter Firefox Command: browse to your firefox directory and the application file [usr/lib/firefox] and click on the firefox shell script file] Under Icon: click on No Icon. Click on Browse - browse to usr/share/firefox/icons. Click Open. That will give you the default FF icons (blue globe). That should do it. You can do the same for desktop application launcher etc. Or better yet; read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion for a more detailed description of the full install etc. From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 19:10:51 2007 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 03:10:51 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <212696550702081110n16c833fbiae26e877e86faf0d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks very much. I will go back about 2 weeks. When I come back I will try following yours suggestions to try to recover the icon. On 2/9/07, NoOp wrote: > > > > > > On 2/7/07, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > >> > >> zhihang wang wrote: > >> > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME > >> panel. > >> > How to recover it? > >> > >> Hi there, > >> > >> you can either right-click on the panel and choose Add to Panel, under > >> which > >> you should go to Application Launcher sub-menu. There you are shown the > >> whole Applications menu, from which you can drag'n'drop the icons in > place > >> or choose them and hit Add button on the low right. Or, just simply go > to > >> Applications menu (alt+F1) and right-click on wanted icons, and choose > >> 'Add > >> this launcher to Panel' option. > >> > >> Hope these work for you. :) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jaska > zhihang wang wrote: > > But there is not the firefox icon in the *Application Launcher* > sub-menu. I > > use > > sudo apt-get remove firefox > > to remove the firefox 1.0.9 and I installed the firefox 2.0. > > Now I can use the firefox 2.0 by > >>firefox > > But I can't find the icon in the Application Launcher. > > Right click on the Gnome panel > click Add to panel > click Custom applicaton launcher > Under Name: enter Firefox > Command: browse to your firefox directory and the application file > [usr/lib/firefox] and click on the firefox shell script file] > Under Icon: click on No Icon. Click on Browse - browse to > usr/share/firefox/icons. Click Open. That will give you the default FF > icons (blue globe). > > That should do it. You can do the same for desktop application launcher > etc. > > Or better yet; read: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion > for a more detailed description of the full install etc. > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Feb 8 19:31:27 2007 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:31:27 -0800 Subject: Why does the gcc package provide /usr/bin/gcc instead of using alternatives system? Message-ID: <45CB7A8F.4060308@mikefedyk.com> [ Sending to ubuntu-users since it hasn't gone through the moderation queue on ubuntu-devel ] Hi, In Dapper, the gcc package provides a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 and does not use the alternatives system. I noticed this while helping a friend set up vmware server on their system. It needs gcc-3.4 to build the kernel modules. Steps to reproduce: apt-get install gcc gcc-4.0 gcc-3.4 apt-get remove gcc-4.0 gcc -v bash: /usr/bin/gcc: No such file or directory I was going to report a bug against gcc-3.4 about using the alternatives system and then I noticed from gcc -> gcc-4.0 in /usr/bin from the gcc package. Since this issue affects both gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 I'm sending this message to this list for advise on proceeding further. What is the best way to get this fixed? And who should I send patches to? Should the call to update-alternatives go in post-inst or what? Mike From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 19:37:44 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:37:44 -0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702081110n16c833fbiae26e877e86faf0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A42A.5000503@dnainternet.net> <212696550702070231t62077cfcnc252c877dcef907a@mail.gmail.com> <212696550702081110n16c833fbiae26e877e86faf0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: zhihang wang wrote: > Thanks very much. I will go back about 2 weeks. When I come back I will try > following yours suggestions to try to recover the icon. > Have a good trip & Happy New Year :-) From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 19:19:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:19:34 -0400 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail References: Message-ID: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Zachary Stern wrote: > I know this doesn't solve your problem, but in general, I think the real > strength of gmail is its user interface. If you use Kmail to access it, > you may as well just keep your old email address. Ack!! Its user interface sucks big time. When you can't even display only unread messages (with a button click), it doesn't have much value imo. otoh, I _have_ kept my old email address _and_ use gmail. Gmail hosts mail for my domain, giving me better control of my mail server than I used to have. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 19:17:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:17:39 -0400 Subject: Install VMware Server References: <77520bee0702071837y43ed135eibc82e8145f755dee@mail.gmail.com> <20070208081456.276673e0@n428> <77520bee0702080855v4a859838v167c8e4b2bd35a65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 08/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> > >> Yes, but Eric's been reading the same How-Tos as me, which specifically >> say "xinetd", not "inetd". It seems to me that it doesn't need xinetd, >> but while I have VMServer running, I haven't actually created a VM yet. > > I just installed xinetd because that's all that was available in the > repository and, I wanted to keep everything as close to a pure 6.06 > LTS install as possible. Well, inetd is netkit-inetd, and is what I have from the default install, and sure enough VMware-server and guests run fine with it. > > Also, supposedly from xinetd's website (it's down at the moment): > "xinetd is a secure replacement for inetd" ??? Right. I suppose, as opposed to an insecure replacement for inetd. -- derek From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 20:00:44 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:00:44 -0500 Subject: video baby monitor In-Reply-To: <45CB6A40.6020004@fahrlander.net> References: <1168035175.5619.37.camel@localhost> <1168209094.14724.10.camel@localhost> <1170894637.20007.10.camel@localhost> <20070208172614.2FFF94C3E7@melvex.xs4all.nl> <1170958473.5965.33.camel@localhost> <45CB6A40.6020004@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1170964844.5965.36.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:21 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Matt Price wrote: > > hi, > > > > skype got me thinking about this again. > > hopefully this won't lead to my arrest. > > > > we would like to have a babymonitoring system that lets us go next door > > to the neighbours' and have a drink once in a while (they have kidstoo, > > so we all feel a little trapped. We have an audio video monitor which > > works well but there are parties in this ocnfiguration who feel > > uncomfortable with that set up. so I've been asked to hook up a video > > camera to a laptop to use as a video monitor. > > > > sooo.. what would be the best way to do this? would you use something > > like wengophone with a webcam (or better, can you do video chat with a > > proper video camera connected via firewire? then we couldget some > > decent focus).? Or should I somehow screencast the images from my > > screen (using what, one of those desktop exporters/ not sure). > > Sounds like those $100 Walmart cameras is what you need; a separate > system, without concern for downtime, someone logging you out or > anything else; just plug it in, and go next door. Something like this > is probably better as a standalone system, aye? > you mean you can just buy those?? ahh... > - -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad > Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFy2o/6PLtRzZbdhYRAjfpAJ0T81mqz7/lepdfvazyjme+qunclwCfcvKQ > 1EQ0NMJLTpnWhGgfCjkC/bU= > =dkvF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps I expect too >> much from Ubuntu... > > What do you mean by " _essentially_ free" ? do you pay for any package > in Universe or Multiverse? No, I mean essentially free of legal encumbrance. Multiverse contains packages that may not have a GPL or equivalent license, but they must allow distribution - or Ubuntu wouldn't be carrying them (and if _only_ Ubuntu has them, they're probably in ubuntu-commercial) - and I have always assumed I have a right to use them, or why would anyone want them in the repository anyway (besides which, they probably wouldn't be legally distributable, either)? That last may, however, be an unreasonable assumption on my part. > As to me, I don't care if there are non GPL free software in those > repositories. People are not obliged to use them, and people who think > there useful can easily get them. So why the heck should they be removed > from those repositories ? Who on earth suggested that should be done???? Erik pointed out that there may be a clause in the EULA that would make it potentially illegal to use vmware-player for some users. Since such a clause wouldn't affect me, I didn't even plan to check the EULA, but I accepted that because the package is in Multiverse it was possible that such a clause exists. -- derek From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 20:13:14 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:13:14 -0800 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Matt Price wrote: > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, > > matt > > No clue. But you might try here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 20:22:00 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:22:00 -0500 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe its downloading updates in in the background? Also look into what processes are running. On 2/8/07, Ed Smits wrote: > > I have 2 Dell laptops, both running Edgy, roughly similar hardware. > The older one has been running Dapper and now Edgy for 8+ months, and > I am used to it's behaviour. On both laptops I have System Monitor in > my top panel, set to show processor, network and load. On the older > laptop when I'm not doing anything, and especially when I have no > browser etc open I see little or no network traffic, which is at it > should be (other than Synaptic Update and time/weather checks). > However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I > notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot > of network traffic I can't account for. > > 1) anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? > > 2) what would be the best tool to try and monitor/analyze this > traffic, preferably GUI based if possible. > > Thanks > > ED > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 20:33:18 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:33:18 -0500 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail In-Reply-To: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: What can I say, its just a different system of organizing mail. I love it. On 2/8/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Zachary Stern wrote: > > > I know this doesn't solve your problem, but in general, I think the real > > strength of gmail is its user interface. If you use Kmail to access it, > > you may as well just keep your old email address. > > Ack!! Its user interface sucks big time. When you can't even display > only > unread messages (with a button click), it doesn't have much value imo. > > otoh, I _have_ kept my old email address _and_ use gmail. Gmail hosts > mail > for my domain, giving me better control of my mail server than I used to > have. > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Feb 8 20:43:08 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:43:08 +0000 Subject: weird update problems Message-ID: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> had Edgy installed and tried doing an update using the update-manager, after which two packages wouldn't be updated. A closer look using aptitude showed that linux-image-generic was pointing to non-existant kernels. I got frustrated and ended up removing all kernels and then found apt wouldn't let me install any at all. I reformatted, this time using Dapper (which I personally believe is far more stable). Would you believe, after a fresh install of Dapper I run aptitude dist-upgrade, I get this nonsense: > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > linux-image-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. > Resolving dependencies... > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > Keep the following packages at their current version: > linux-image-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 [Not Installed] > linux-restricted-modules-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] > > Score is -41 > > Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] What on Earth is going on? This seems similar to the probs I had with Edgy. My local mirror is gb, but I also changed to fr and updated with no change. Am I being really dumb here and over-looking something really obvious!? Thanks, Gabe From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 20:48:13 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:48:13 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't copying all files properly. On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > had Edgy installed and tried doing an update using the update-manager, > after which two packages wouldn't be updated. A closer look using > aptitude showed that linux-image-generic was pointing to non-existant > kernels. I got frustrated and ended up removing all kernels and then > found apt wouldn't let me install any at all. > > I reformatted, this time using Dapper (which I personally believe is far > more stable). Would you believe, after a fresh install of Dapper I run > aptitude dist-upgrade, I get this nonsense: > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > linux-image-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual > package. > > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386: Depends: > linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. > > Resolving dependencies... > > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > > > Keep the following packages at their current version: > > linux-image-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] > > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 [Not Installed] > > linux-restricted-modules-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] > > > > Score is -41 > > > > Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] > > > What on Earth is going on? This seems similar to the probs I had with > Edgy. My local mirror is gb, but I also changed to fr and updated with > no change. > > Am I being really dumb here and over-looking something really obvious!? > > Thanks, > > Gabe > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Zach Stern http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com (Its kinda crappy at the moment) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.smits at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 20:54:45 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:54:45 -0500 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It isn't background updates, acc'd to Synaptic it's up to date except for the ones released today, and I don't have it set to do automatic downloads for updates. As to other processes - I think I'll compare between the two boxes to see what the differences are, see if I have some odd service running etc. Thanks ED On 2/8/07, Zachary Stern wrote: > Maybe its downloading updates in in the background? > Also look into what processes are running. > > > On 2/8/07, Ed Smits < ed.smits at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I have 2 Dell laptops, both running Edgy, roughly similar hardware. > > The older one has been running Dapper and now Edgy for 8+ months, and > > I am used to it's behaviour. On both laptops I have System Monitor in > > my top panel, set to show processor, network and load. On the older > > laptop when I'm not doing anything, and especially when I have no > > browser etc open I see little or no network traffic, which is at it > > should be (other than Synaptic Update and time/weather checks). > > However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I > > notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot > > of network traffic I can't account for. > > > > 1) anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? > > > > 2) what would be the best tool to try and monitor/analyze this > > traffic, preferably GUI based if possible. > > > > Thanks > > > > ED > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Zach Stern > http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com > (Its kinda crappy at the moment) > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 21:03:51 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:03:51 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <77520bee0702071122n4101a69bq801b290506edf22d@mail.gmail.com> <45CB46E4.9000007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CB9037.6070904@gmail.com> > Who on earth suggested that should be done???? Erik pointed out that there > may be a clause in the EULA that would make it potentially illegal to use > vmware-player for some users. Since such a clause wouldn't affect me, I > didn't even plan to check the EULA, but I accepted that because the package > is in Multiverse it was possible that such a clause exists. You took the point :) From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Feb 8 21:09:02 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:09:02 +0100 Subject: windows cannot read dvd created by gnome bakker In-Reply-To: <880dece00702080042ib8a31bdt83c693518ef03e3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1365ade30702060652h6ea66487me9eb82460a9dc11@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00702071640x3b0ec21awe465e51694902986@mail.gmail.com> <1170916248.5301.8.camel@chronic> <880dece00702080042ib8a31bdt83c693518ef03e3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1170968942.5301.18.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 10:42 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Price of Debian/Ubunutu: $0 > Price of new DVD player: $50 > Price of throwing away money trying to fix Windows when better > alternatives are available for free: priceless. If you'd read the thread you'd see that I suspect hardware incompatibility. I have certainly seen this a lot: some DVD drives would not play certain DVD brands, regardless of OS being used. In many cases the problem is that the drive will not even recognize the disc. I have seen this with DVD burnt with Windows and with Linux, and trying to be played with either. I cannot see how you intend to fix this with installing a different OS. From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 8 21:20:14 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:20:14 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1170969614.14202.221.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 15:48 -0500, Zachary Stern wrote: > Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't > copying all files properly. I wouldn't buy that if it were free... I had the same problem, and know of at least 3 others who did also (all running Dapper, not Edgy)... I think something got hosed on the repo's somewhere. > > On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > had Edgy installed and tried doing an update using the > update-manager, > after which two packages wouldn't be updated. A closer look > using > aptitude showed that linux-image-generic was pointing to > non-existant > kernels. I got frustrated and ended up removing all kernels > and then > found apt wouldn't let me install any at all. > > I reformatted, this time using Dapper (which I personally > believe is far > more stable). Would you believe, after a fresh install of > Dapper I run > aptitude dist-upgrade, I get this nonsense: > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > linux-image-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which > is a virtual package. > > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386: Depends: > linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. > > Resolving dependencies... > > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > > > Keep the following packages at their current version: > > linux-image-386 [ 2.6.15.24 (now)] > > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 [Not Installed] > > linux-restricted-modules-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] > > > > Score is -41 > > > > Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] > > > What on Earth is going on? This seems similar to the probs I > had with > Edgy. My local mirror is gb, but I also changed to fr and > updated with > no change. > > Am I being really dumb here and over-looking something really > obvious!? > > Thanks, > > Gabe > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > Zach Stern > http://rollerskatejamms.110mb.com > (Its kinda crappy at the moment) From matt.price at utoronto.ca Thu Feb 8 21:33:58 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:33:58 -0500 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:13 -0800, NoOp wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution > > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and > > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to > > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, > > > > matt > > > > > > No clue. But you might try here: > http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ > well, if anyone finds anything there I'll be grateful. but I've been up and down on that site and in any case the docs seem to cover 2.6, rather out of date... > > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have certainly seen this a lot: some DVD drives would > not play certain DVD brands, regardless of OS being used. In many cases > the problem is that the drive will not even recognize the disc. I have > seen this with DVD burnt with Windows and with Linux, and trying to be > played with either. > > I cannot see how you intend to fix this with installing a different OS. > I've had this problem loads of times and found the only reliable way to make sure a CD or DVD can be read in (almost) any drive is to burn it at low speed. It doesn't seem to matter how old the drive is, my new (couple of months old) DVD writer is no better then one a couple of years old. The newer one is less fussy about the make of disc though. Keep trying read it, I've known discs that have started to work after a several refusals to work. SteVe From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu Feb 8 21:43:08 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:43:08 +0000 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45CB996C.10201@googlemail.com> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > had Edgy installed and tried doing an update using the update-manager, > after which two packages wouldn't be updated. A closer look using > aptitude showed that linux-image-generic was pointing to non-existant > kernels. I got frustrated and ended up removing all kernels and then > found apt wouldn't let me install any at all. > > I reformatted, this time using Dapper (which I personally believe is far > more stable). Would you believe, after a fresh install of Dapper I run > aptitude dist-upgrade, I get this nonsense: > > >> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >> linux-image-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. >> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is a virtual package. >> Resolving dependencies... >> The following actions will resolve these dependencies: >> >> Keep the following packages at their current version: >> linux-image-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] >> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 [Not Installed] >> linux-restricted-modules-386 [2.6.15.24 (now)] >> >> Score is -41 >> >> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] > > > What on Earth is going on? This seems similar to the probs I had with > Edgy. My local mirror is gb, but I also changed to fr and updated with > no change. > > Am I being really dumb here and over-looking something really obvious!? > You're not being dumb Gabe, I get the same problem on four machines here. Two Dapper and two Edgy. I'm just going to leave it for a while, I'm sure an explanation and correction will turn up. SteVe From vrman49 at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 21:47:08 2007 From: vrman49 at gmail.com (Richard Mancusi) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:47:08 -0600 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <1170969614.14202.221.camel@localhost> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <1170969614.14202.221.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <653ba2540702081347ue9edcaasb916f79c3254af38@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/07, John Dangler wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 15:48 -0500, Zachary Stern wrote: > > Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't > > copying all files properly. > I wouldn't buy that if it were free... > I had the same problem, and know of at least 3 others who did also (all > running Dapper, not Edgy)... > I think something got hosed on the repo's somewhere. > John - You are correct! I have a very similar problem with Edgy. My update this morning via "System/Administration/Update Manager" left 3 grayed-out entries. They are difficult to read, unchecked and I can't check or remove them. linux-headers-generic >From Version 2.6.17.10 to 2.6.17.11 (Size: 23 KB) linux-image-generic >From Version 2.6.17.10 to 2.6.17.11 (Size: 23 KB) linux-restricted-modules-generic >From Version 2.6.17.10 to 2.6.17.11 (Size: 23 KB) I installed my system with the alternate CD and did nothing fancy. Simply added packages via "System/Administration/ Synaptic Package Manager" Obviously there is a problem that we must wait for the folks at Ubuntu to fix. -rich From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 21:57:03 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 05:57:03 +0800 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/7/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME panel. > How to recover it? You can do this in 3 easy steps 1. Click Applications > Accessories > Terminal 2. rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.nautilus ~/.gnome* ~/.metacity 3. Logout and re-login. This will default all the desktop settings you have. Backup your settings if you want to revert back. i.e. (mkdir ~/MySettings && cp -R ~/.gconf* ~/.nautilus ~/.gnome* ~/.metacity ~/MySettings/) -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gabe From bastill at adam.com.au Thu Feb 8 21:59:05 2007 From: bastill at adam.com.au (Brian Astill) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:29:05 +1030 Subject: help with new monitor In-Reply-To: References: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702090829.05161.bastill@adam.com.au> On Friday 09 February 2007 02:13, Zachary Stern wrote: > > Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that > > I can get higher resolutions? Let me re-phrase that, I > > installed a new monitor (LCD) which has higher resolutions > > than 1024 x 768. > > > > But when I go to the screen resolutions under system, > > preferences it will only let me go as high as 1024 x 768. You are using edgy - right? Something needs to be done to xorg to make the system stop doing this. Problem is that even if "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or whatever, works, all will be undone next time you boot. so you will have to fix things again. BTW, it IS xorg and not Ubuntu SFAICT. I tried the latest Gentoo Live CD and it insisted on giving me 800x600, which is absurd on a 19" CRT monitor capable of 2048x1536. -- Regards, Brian From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 8 19:19:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:19:34 -0400 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail References: Message-ID: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Zachary Stern wrote: > I know this doesn't solve your problem, but in general, I think the real > strength of gmail is its user interface. If you use Kmail to access it, > you may as well just keep your old email address. Ack!! Its user interface sucks big time. When you can't even display only unread messages, it doesn't have much value imo. otoh, I _have_ kept my old email address _and_ use gmail. Gmail hosts mail for my domain, giving me better control of my mail server than I used to have. -- derek From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu Feb 8 22:30:07 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:30:07 +0000 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Zachary Stern wrote: >> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't >> copying all files properly. >> > > I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and > it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only > today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to > the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely. > Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have > the repos been hacked or summat? > > Gabe > From the home page of the forums Latest Kernel Update Issues We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If you are having issues please see the following thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. SteVe From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 8 22:34:06 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:34:06 -0800 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Matt Price wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:13 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> Matt Price wrote: >> > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution >> > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and >> > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to >> > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, >> > >> > matt >> > >> > >> >> No clue. But you might try here: >> http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ >> > well, if anyone finds anything there I'll be grateful. but I've been up > and down on that site and in any case the docs seem to cover 2.6, rather > out of date... > Perhaps try the mailing list; nntp is news.gmane.org/ gmane.comp.gnome.evolution.general. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Feb 8 23:30:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:30:14 -0500 Subject: help with new monitor In-Reply-To: <200702090829.05161.bastill@adam.com.au> References: <45CB4493.3020604@gmail.com> <200702090829.05161.bastill@adam.com.au> Message-ID: <45CBB286.8010308@gatech.edu> Brian Astill wrote: > On Friday 09 February 2007 02:13, Zachary Stern wrote: >>> Could anyone tell me how I can install my new monitor so that >>> I can get higher resolutions? Let me re-phrase that, I >>> installed a new monitor (LCD) which has higher resolutions >>> than 1024 x 768. >>> >>> But when I go to the screen resolutions under system, >>> preferences it will only let me go as high as 1024 x 768. > > You are using edgy - right? > Something needs to be done to xorg to make the system stop doing > this. Problem is that even if "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or > whatever, works, all will be undone next time you boot. so you > will have to fix things again. No, these settings are saved to disk. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Feb 8 23:49:00 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:49:00 +0000 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> SteVe Cook wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> Zachary Stern wrote: >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't >>> copying all files properly. >>> >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely. >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have >> the repos been hacked or summat? >> >> Gabe >> > From the home page of the forums > > Latest Kernel Update Issues > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If > you are having issues please see the following thread. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. > > SteVe > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official info on this, thought there could at least be an official announcement. What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems like the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel. Kerneless linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO. From ed.smits at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 00:15:52 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:15:52 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Can someone explain to me this weird obsession with updating as soon as it's offered, and when it doesn't work you actually try to clean up your kernels? You have systems that are working well I assume, just leave well enough alone until things get sorted out. I have production Sun servers at work that haven't been patched in 2 years - if it's working well why risk screwing things up? Unless there is a specific problem and a patch to fix it we leave well enough alone. ED On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > SteVe Cook wrote: > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Zachary Stern wrote: > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't > >>> copying all files properly. > >>> > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely. > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have > >> the repos been hacked or summat? > >> > >> Gabe > >> > > From the home page of the forums > > > > Latest Kernel Update Issues > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If > > you are having issues please see the following thread. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 > > > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. > > > > SteVe > > > > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official > info on this, thought there could at least be an official announcement. > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems like > the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending > packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel. Kerneless > linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also > Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 00:20:49 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:20:49 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1170980450.14202.226.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 23:49 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > SteVe Cook wrote: > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Zachary Stern wrote: > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't > >>> copying all files properly. > >>> > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely. > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have > >> the repos been hacked or summat? > >> > >> Gabe > >> > > From the home page of the forums > > > > Latest Kernel Update Issues > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If > > you are having issues please see the following thread. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 > > > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. > > > > SteVe > > > > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official > info on this, thought there could at least be an official announcement. > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems like > the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending > packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel. Kerneless > linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also > Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO. I agree. No notification to the community at all, and leave it up to us to find out that something as critical as a kernel update is hosed up... Someone should get kicked pretty hard for pulling this... > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 00:24:55 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:24:55 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:15 -0500, Ed Smits wrote: > Can someone explain to me this weird obsession with updating as soon > as it's offered, and when it doesn't work you actually try to clean up > your kernels? You have systems that are working well I assume, just > leave well enough alone until things get sorted out. I have production > Sun servers at work that haven't been patched in 2 years - if it's > working well why risk screwing things up? Unless there is a specific > problem and a patch to fix it we leave well enough alone. > > ED If you're running Solaris, I would believe it. But not SunOS... When they said patch, you patched - or else... But I do agree on the Linux front. But I do think it's part of 2 things - 1) Hold over from Win... 2) Being dutiful end users, when they're told to patch the OS, they believe (in faith) that the dev/maintainers won't run them down a blind alley. I'll try and keep up with any updates, so long as I can read the changes that have taken place, and they make sense. I've found (more times than I'd care to count) updates on the repo's with absolutely no description of change at all, just a repeat of the description of what the package is... That always makes me suspicious to begin with. > > > > > On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > SteVe Cook wrote: > > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > >> Zachary Stern wrote: > > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't > > >>> copying all files properly. > > >>> > > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and > > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only > > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to > > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely. > > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have > > >> the repos been hacked or summat? > > >> > > >> Gabe > > >> > > > From the home page of the forums > > > > > > Latest Kernel Update Issues > > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If > > > you are having issues please see the following thread. > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 > > > > > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. > > > > > > SteVe > > > > > > > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official > > info on this, thought there could at least be an official announcement. > > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems like > > the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending > > packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel. Kerneless > > linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also > > Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 9 00:32:48 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:32:48 -0800 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Matt Price wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:13 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> Matt Price wrote: >> > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution >> > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and >> > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to >> > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, >> > >> > matt >> > >> > >> >> No clue. But you might try here: >> http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ >> > well, if anyone finds anything there I'll be grateful. but I've been up > and down on that site and in any case the docs seem to cover 2.6, rather > out of date... > Are you by chance referring to the view with no sidebar? If so, View|Sidebar checked takes care of that. If not, is it possible to take a screenshot and post someplace (like imageshack etc)? I'm curious because a customer has just asked to use Evolution and so I am testing for them now. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Feb 9 01:01:34 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:01:34 -0500 Subject: update problem Message-ID: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade will break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? Paul From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Feb 9 01:05:34 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:05:34 -0500 Subject: update problem In-Reply-To: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200702082005.34680.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Thursday 08 February 2007 8:01:34 pm Paul Kaplan wrote: > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select > either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade will > break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? > Paul OK I see that I'm not alone P From rollerskatejamms at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 01:41:19 2007 From: rollerskatejamms at gmail.com (Zachary Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:41:19 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> Message-ID: For me it IS about always having the newest version, because even though I use linux for work, I like to have the newest apps on my personal computer just to check out the new features. I do a backup before any major patching just in case. On 2/8/07, John Dangler wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:15 -0500, Ed Smits wrote: > > Can someone explain to me this weird obsession with updating as soon > > as it's offered, and when it doesn't work you actually try to clean up > > your kernels? You have systems that are working well I assume, just > > leave well enough alone until things get sorted out. I have production > > Sun servers at work that haven't been patched in 2 years - if it's > > working well why risk screwing things up? Unless there is a specific > > problem and a patch to fix it we leave well enough alone. > > > > ED > If you're running Solaris, I would believe it. But not SunOS... > When they said patch, you patched - or else... > > But I do agree on the Linux front. But I do think it's part of 2 things > - 1) Hold over from Win... 2) Being dutiful end users, when they're told > to patch the OS, they believe (in faith) that the dev/maintainers won't > run them down a blind alley. > I'll try and keep up with any updates, so long as I can read the changes > that have taken place, and they make sense. I've found (more times than > I'd care to count) updates on the repo's with absolutely no description > of change at all, just a repeat of the description of what the package > is... That always makes me suspicious to begin with. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > > SteVe Cook wrote: > > > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > > >> Zachary Stern wrote: > > > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install > isn't > > > >>> copying all files properly. > > > >>> > > > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, > and > > > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only > > > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated > to > > > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, > surely. > > > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. > Have > > > >> the repos been hacked or summat? > > > >> > > > >> Gabe > > > >> > > > > From the home page of the forums > > > > > > > > Latest Kernel Update Issues > > > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. > If > > > > you are having issues please see the following thread. > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 > > > > > > > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem. > > > > > > > > SteVe > > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official > > > info on this, thought there could at least be an official > announcement. > > > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. 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Your monitor doc. should show its "native resolution." As always, your mileage may vary. jim From cyclothunder at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 02:09:14 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (cyclothunder) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:09:14 +0000 Subject: Cpu and VGA fan speed control Message-ID: <45CBD7CA.6060408@gmail.com> hi! Is there any app that can control cpu , vga nvidia / ati, fan speed? Cant' find any :-( thx From steve at stevesullam.com Fri Feb 9 02:20:14 2007 From: steve at stevesullam.com (Steve Sullam) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:20:14 -0600 Subject: default java plugin that synaptic installs Message-ID: <45CBDA5E.2010602@stevesullam.com> I'm no develper, but I've been a linux user for at over 7 years, so I thoughtI I would help out with a small tip. I've become a huge fan of ubuntu by the way. The default plugin for java that synaptic installs doesn't work at all well with java applets. I have manually installing the sun java plugin works much much better. Page load faster and the applets render correctly. It works better for both firefox and opera. apt and synaptic should be set up so this would automatically install this plugin for people who don't want to do the manual install. .... Just my small contribution. From vrman49 at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 02:20:24 2007 From: vrman49 at gmail.com (Richard Mancusi) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:20:24 -0600 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <653ba2540702081820j11c7e4c9nea1872843099ac25@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/07, Zachary Stern wrote: > For me it IS about always having the newest version, because even though I > use linux for work, I like to have the newest apps on my personal computer > just to check out the new features. I do a backup before any major patching > just in case. > That is a good reason and method for updates. I also do not understand the "... weird obsession ..." comment - but for a different reason. There are obviously several ways to do your updates. In my case I use Update Manager or simply wait for the notification. In both cases you end up the same place. A gui that breaks the updates into categories. e.g. Proposed, Backport, Important Security, etc. An argument can be made to ignore or wait for many of these categories. But I fail to see the logic behind ignoring "Important Security Updates". The updates in question today were part of these security updates. As a user we should be all over those. And if you are the administrator of a corporate system that fails because you ignored those updates you should be fired. The real question is how do updates in that category get released without adequate testing. Yes, we are human and make mistakes. But this is not the first time that this has happened. This forces all of us to ignore security updates until proven sound. But if we all ignore them they will never be proven anything. Note the infinite loop. -rich From ttmrichter at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 02:24:21 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:24:21 +0800 Subject: local deb mirror In-Reply-To: <87fy9h6xai.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <1680c5ca0702070208t67b11a95y836141f03b9982d0@mail.gmail.com> <1170844019.7929.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <87fy9h6xai.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <1170987861.18187.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 06:19 +0100, Florian Diesch wrote: > > • It's not exactly disk space cheap. A full mirror costs close to 200GB. My > > partial mirror (Edgy and Dapper, i386 only) takes up most of my 80GB > > external drive. > I guess that's including sources? > Edgy i386 binary takes about 16GB here, Dapper had about 12 GB. 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I was wondering if will there be any > chance to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? > > -- > When I laugh, it's like I have 10 microphones connected to a big 10 foot > speaker. > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 03:03:39 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:03:39 -0500 Subject: default java plugin that synaptic installs In-Reply-To: <45CBDA5E.2010602@stevesullam.com> References: <45CBDA5E.2010602@stevesullam.com> Message-ID: <45CBE48B.2070708@gatech.edu> Steve Sullam wrote: > I'm no develper, but I've been a linux user for at over 7 years, so I > thoughtI I would help out with a small tip. I've become a huge fan of > ubuntu by the way. The default plugin for java that synaptic installs > doesn't work at all well with java applets. I have manually installing > the sun java plugin works much much better. Page load faster and the > applets render correctly. It works better for both firefox and opera. > apt and synaptic should be set up so this would automatically install > this plugin for people who don't want to do the manual install. .... > Just my small contribution. Sun Java is proprietary (this is changing). Ubuntu is not, except for device drivers (by default). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From adconrad at ubuntu.com Fri Feb 9 03:04:09 2007 From: adconrad at ubuntu.com (Adam Conrad) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:04:09 +1100 Subject: Why does the gcc package provide /usr/bin/gcc instead of using alternatives system? In-Reply-To: <45CB7A8F.4060308@mikefedyk.com> References: <45CB7A8F.4060308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <45CBE4A9.3040707@ubuntu.com> Mike Fedyk wrote: > > In Dapper, the gcc package provides a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc -> > /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 and does not use the alternatives system. GCC has never used, and never will use, the alternative system. For each release, we dictate what the default compiler will be using the symlink in question, and having it easily breakable, as alternatives are, would lead to too many support headaches: People compiling apps that link against libraries with incompatible ABIs, and the like, because they switch the link... That sort of thing. > I noticed this while helping a friend set up vmware server on their > system. It needs gcc-3.4 to build the kernel modules. Install gcc-3.4, and "export CC=gcc-3.4" for the duration of your kernel build. ... Adam From smccuan at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 03:10:56 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:10:56 -0500 Subject: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74466CC71AE540929DB17777C347DDD1@Metion> Just because the founder has been detained doesnt mean that the other dozen or so developers will stop working on the project. Hans was not the only person developing ReiserFS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zachary Stern To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: Re: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? I wouldn't count on resierfs, isn't the guy in jail? On 2/8/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: I'm trying out the two filesystems reiser4 and ext4, however, none of those filesystem is compiled in the kernel, and cannot be mounted. My e2fsprogs is patched to support ext4, I'm using 2.6.20-6-386 from ubuntu feisty main repository, with the latest feisty upgrade. I was wondering if will there be any chance to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? -- When I laugh, it's like I have 10 microphones connected to a big 10 foot speaker. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lemsx1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 03:22:15 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:22:15 -0500 Subject: How to recove the firefox icon to the GNOME panel in ubuntu 6.06? In-Reply-To: References: <212696550702070151hb3d5254h1cd52f275e2d50df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ouch, You can also do this by just doing: 1. Click Applications > Accessories > Terminal 2. mv .local local-old It worked for me previously. You will need to organize your icons a bit after that... Deleting .gconf* and other directories is just harsh. On 2/8/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/7/07, zhihang wang wrote: > > I happeded to delete the firefox and evolution icon from the GNOME panel. > How to recover it? > > You can do this in 3 easy steps > > 1. Click Applications > Accessories > Terminal > 2. rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.nautilus ~/.gnome* ~/.metacity > 3. Logout and re-login. > > This will default all the desktop settings you have. > Backup your settings if you want to revert back. > > i.e. (mkdir ~/MySettings && cp -R ~/.gconf* ~/.nautilus ~/.gnome* > ~/.metacity ~/MySettings/) > > > -- > > Best Regards > > zhihang wang > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > -- > Carpe Diem > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From ed.smits at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 03:36:37 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:36:37 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <653ba2540702081820j11c7e4c9nea1872843099ac25@mail.gmail.com> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> <653ba2540702081820j11c7e4c9nea1872843099ac25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: especially in a production environment you don't install any patches, even security patches, w/o testing them first on a non-critical server. Because I assume that most of us aren't running production Ubuntu servers we can be a little more lax, but let's face it, one of the reasons why we are using Linux over Windows is that the security concerns are a lot less critical to us - there may be security holes in Linux but the chances of anyone exploiting them are a lot less than with Windows machines, and so it behooves us (good word, eh) to patch our machines intelligently. I'm as bad as the rest - I also automatically want to patch as soon as Update Manager says there are patches available, however because I run VMWare inside Ubuntu (and need it for work) I have learned the hard way not to patch anything to do with the kernel until all associated parts (headers etc) can be patched as well. Lets hope this is cleared up by tomorrow ED On 2/8/07, Richard Mancusi wrote: > On 2/8/07, Zachary Stern wrote: > > For me it IS about always having the newest version, because even though I > > use linux for work, I like to have the newest apps on my personal computer > > just to check out the new features. I do a backup before any major patching > > just in case. > > > > That is a good reason and method for updates. I also do not understand > the "... weird obsession ..." comment - but for a different reason. > > There are obviously several ways to do your updates. In my case I use > Update Manager or simply wait for the notification. In both cases you > end up the same place. A gui that breaks the updates into categories. > e.g. Proposed, Backport, Important Security, etc. An argument can be > made to ignore or wait for many of these categories. But I fail to see > the logic behind ignoring "Important Security Updates". The updates in > question today were part of these security updates. As a user we should > be all over those. And if you are the administrator of a corporate system > that fails because you ignored those updates you should be fired. > > The real question is how do updates in that category get released > without adequate testing. Yes, we are human and make mistakes. But > this is not the first time that this has happened. This forces all of us > to ignore security updates until proven sound. But if we all ignore them > they will never be proven anything. Note the infinite loop. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Feb 9 03:46:26 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:46:26 -0500 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <1170980450.14202.226.camel@localhost> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980450.14202.226.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200702082246.26450.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 08 February 2007 19:20, John Dangler wrote: > I agree. No notification to the community at all, and leave it up to us > to find out that something as critical as a kernel update is hosed up... > Someone should get kicked pretty hard for pulling this... Gee here's what happened when I tried to upgrade my test server today: $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-server The following packages will be upgraded: linux-server 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 23.8kB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. $ sudo apt-get install linux-image-server linux-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-server: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-server but it is not installable E: Broken packages So I stopped there. Nothing hosed. I'm not sure what anyone would tell me other than what apt already did. Personally, I think if you're paying attention to what's going on, it's not that hard to figure out. For those who don't care to pay attention, Canonical has support contracts... Scott K From fourat at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 04:34:21 2007 From: fourat at gmail.com (Fourat Zouari) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 05:34:21 +0100 Subject: CPU Fan does not switch-off Message-ID: <621eda8a0702082034q25188725hc0956e171d9b6c57@mail.gmail.com> I recently switched from debian etch to ubuntu Edgy. Everything seems to work perfectly fine (autodetect), except one problem. My CPU fan, once it starts, does not switch-off. The fan switches off fine in Windows-XP. Was wondering if anyone faced this problem and could suggest solutions or debugging tips. here's some helpfull informations : # dpkg -l|grep acpi ii acpi 0.09-1 displays information on ACPI devices ii acpi-support 0.90 a collection of useful events for acpi ii acpid 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 Utilities for using ACPI power management ii acpitool 0.4.4-1 a small, convenient command-line ACPI client # ps -ax|grep acpi Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html 9 ? S< 0:00 [kacpid] 10 ? S< 0:00 [kacpi_notify] 3653 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket 3944 ? 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URL: From vrman49 at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 04:34:22 2007 From: vrman49 at gmail.com (Richard Mancusi) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:34:22 -0600 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <200702082246.26450.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980450.14202.226.camel@localhost> <200702082246.26450.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <653ba2540702082034o579eeed1hdaa22531696dd51c@mail.gmail.com> > Gee here's what happened when I tried to upgrade my test server today: > > $ sudo apt-get upgrade > So I stopped there. Nothing hosed. I'm not sure what anyone would tell me > other than what apt already did. Personally, I think if you're paying > attention to what's going on, it's not that hard to figure out. > > For those who don't care to pay attention, Canonical has support contracts... > > Scott K I completely agree. Nor was my system hosed by using Update Manager. I think people simply got confused and I wonder how many systems really got hosed. I don't see how it would be possible using Update Manager. What I don't agree with is some of the other statements made on this subject by other posters. If it isn't a security issue - don't call it that. If it is - do the update. Nope I don't have extra servers laying around like a $65,000 Alpha running VMS or one for my HP-UX system. Yes I do for MS testing - but I don't like equating MS and Linux. I also don't think my boss will or should buy into "... yea it was listed as an "Important security update" that I didn't install ... sorry I thought I should test it before installing because I am smarter then the manufacturer ..." But we all have different situations and I understand that. By the way, I did the patches on my laptop not my servers. I always do it that way - just in case. I wish that I didn't feel it was necessary. Scott is correct - if it's that important get a service contract - perhaps I will. We should all just relax, the good folks at Ubuntu will work it out soon. -rich From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Fri Feb 9 05:06:38 2007 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:06:38 -0800 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> Ed Smits wrote: > However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I > notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot > of network traffic I can't account for. apt-get install nmap nmap -np nmap will show you in brutal detail what is happening on your network interface(s). Also check out ethereal/wireshark. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Fri Feb 9 05:11:12 2007 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:11:12 -0800 Subject: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CC0270.2050003@mikefedyk.com> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > I'm trying out the two filesystems reiser4 and ext4, however, none of > those filesystem is compiled in the kernel, and cannot be mounted. My > e2fsprogs is patched to support ext4, I'm using 2.6.20-6-386 from ubuntu > feisty main repository, > with the latest feisty upgrade. I was wondering if will there be any > chance to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? Simple, download the source package, patch the ubuntu kernel, make a changelog entry and compile new binary kernel packages. I doubt ubuntu will support reiser4 or ext4 until long after they are merged into the kernel and not market as experimental. From elitepenguin at gmx.net Fri Feb 9 09:17:44 2007 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:17:44 +0100 Subject: Changing permissions of Binaries installed by apt Message-ID: <2f30da460702090117w69c89413i2559c505c261ef08@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm the sysadmin of a small group of people. To mount the fileserver I wrote a small script which uses /sbin/mount.cifs from the smbfs package. To make the normal users able to mount w/o sudo (and entering the passwd every time) I set the permissions of mount.cifs setuid (chmod +s $(which mount.cifs)). However I noticed that the permissions of mount.cfis changed some time ago (not sure if it was related to an update) and I had to chmod +s the binaries again. I'm not what did this, maybe apt-get when updating? Thanks for advice! Regards Nils From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 09:57:02 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:57:02 +0800 Subject: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? In-Reply-To: <45CC0270.2050003@mikefedyk.com> References: <45CC0270.2050003@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: On 2/9/07, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > I'm trying out the two filesystems reiser4 and ext4, however, none of > > those filesystem is compiled in the kernel, and cannot be mounted. My > > e2fsprogs is patched to support ext4, I'm using 2.6.20-6-386 from ubuntu > > feisty main repository, > > with the latest feisty upgrade. I was wondering if will there be any > > chance to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? > > Simple, download the source package, patch the ubuntu kernel, make a > changelog entry and compile new binary kernel packages. > > I doubt ubuntu will support reiser4 or ext4 until long after they are > merged into the kernel and not market as experimental. The Ubuntu Feisty repositories have reiser4 packages, I think it's good, because people have the chance to use reiser4, but without the reiser4 patches compiled in the Ubuntu kernel, it's really useless. I think alot of people really like to test reiser4 and ext4, would it be great if there's a testing kernel for it? like Linux 2.6.20-6-HowardHughes -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- When I laugh, it's like I have 10 microphones connected to a big 10 foot speaker. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cyclothunder at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 10:01:35 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (Luis Rodrigues) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:01:35 +0000 Subject: Internet Connection sharing Message-ID: <16dd62e50702090201t34e24b3fo31abe0a3fc5bb8a1@mail.gmail.com> Hi! How do i share a internet connection ? Case 1 - I've 2 pc's with ubuntu.Pc nº1 is connected to internet with usb modem adsl and has a network card.Pc nº2 also has a network card. Case 2 - I've 2 pc's connected to a route wireless and there is no way a can connect a 3rd pc wireless nor cable.On windows I'm able to share a wireless network card allowing the wired network card to access internet. How do i do this on ubuntu? thx :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Feb 9 10:58:07 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:58:07 +0000 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <653ba2540702081820j11c7e4c9nea1872843099ac25@mail.gmail.com> References: <45CB8B5C.6030505@yandex.ru> <45CB9DCF.6060909@yandex.ru> <45CBA46F.7010900@googlemail.com> <45CBB6EC.9000506@yandex.ru> <1170980695.14202.231.camel@localhost> <653ba2540702081820j11c7e4c9nea1872843099ac25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CC53BF.1080304@yandex.ru> Richard Mancusi wrote: > There are obviously several ways to do your updates. In my case I use > Update Manager or simply wait for the notification. In both cases you > end up the same place. A gui that breaks the updates into categories. > e.g. Proposed, Backport, Important Security, etc. An argument can be > made to ignore or wait for many of these categories. But I fail to see > the logic behind ignoring "Important Security Updates". The updates in > question today were part of these security updates. As a user we should > be all over those. And if you are the administrator of a corporate system > that fails because you ignored those updates you should be fired. > > The real question is how do updates in that category get released > without adequate testing. Yes, we are human and make mistakes. But > this is not the first time that this has happened. This forces all of us > to ignore security updates until proven sound. But if we all ignore them > they will never be proven anything. Note the infinite loop. > Right, right, I'll be the first to put my hand up and say that most of the real damage was done by my hand. My (lame) excuse is that I had installed a lot of software from source, and I thought that this had somehow screwed apt, I never dreamt that the actual kernels packages in the ubuntu repos were mashed. Sure in this case it is my fault, but how on earth can you excuse mashing the kernel packages. I've had a lot of faith in Ubuntu and its crew - believing what they always said - that the main repos was the only one that would be guaranteed. Seems like they can't even guarantee a kernel these days. I would like to point out, that I do realize I made over-zealous use of the sudo + aptitude commands. From pubmb01 at skynet.be Fri Feb 9 11:12:56 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:12:56 +0100 Subject: SELinux: package 'selinux-policy-default' failed to install Message-ID: <200702091212.56950.pubmb01@skynet.be> Hello, I have the following error when trying to install a package contain policies for SELinux : .... sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: selinux-policy-default 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/257kB of archives. After unpacking 2896kB of additional disk space will be used. Selecting previously deselected package selinux-policy-default. (Reading database ... 91422 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking selinux-policy-default (from .../selinux-policy-default_1%3a1.26-7_all.deb) ... Setting up selinux-policy-default (1.26-7) ... Loading Policy ... /usr/sbin/load_policy: Warning! Policy file argument (/etc/selinux/./policy/policy.15) is no longer supported, installed policy is always loaded. Continuing... libsepol.policydb_write: Discarding booleans and conditional rules libsepol.policydb_write: Discarding booleans and conditional rules /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 ..... Thanks for attention or any clue, Bruno From dlithgow at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 11:19:30 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:19:30 +0100 Subject: gnome desktop won't start Message-ID: <1171019970.8087.17.camel@localhost> Since installing GL Desktop and xserver-xgl I can't boot into a normal Gnome Desktop. Anyone know why and how I can fix it? I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but that made no difference. 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It may > > be reassigned, but that's a decent start. > > I can not assign the bur to CDRtools (or cdrtools) . you dont assign bugs to packges, you file them on a package, the developer team then decides which *person* gets it assigned ... the link above is perfectly right to file the bug on cdrtools, assignment will be done by the dev team then. ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From oozypal at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 12:42:48 2007 From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:42:48 +0300 Subject: Can't update Message-ID: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> I am trying to update doing sudo aptitute upgrade but I am getting the following msg Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Reading extended state information... Initializing package states... Building tag database... The following packages have been automatically kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. I tried synaptic and adept with no help too. -- OOzy Kubuntu-Edgy From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Feb 9 12:46:54 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:46:54 +0100 Subject: weird update problems In-Reply-To: <45CC53BF.1080304@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <200702091246.l19CkqoS000828@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> After a couple of days I wonder how many people will admit that "ubuntu" has recovered the situation and all is well. When I was questioned about the update, I was clearly shown what I was getting and did I want to continue. I did on my test box and did not on my live box. I realise this is a luxury. But I was warned. "Let the buyer be aware". MY 2 centimes worth. Regards From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Feb 9 12:47:43 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:47:43 +0100 Subject: Can't update In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CC6D6F.9000802@welcomes-you.com> OOzy Pal wrote: > I am trying to update doing > sudo aptitute upgrade > but I am getting the following msg [...] > I tried synaptic and adept with no help too. Weird that synaptic/adept don't do the job. Try this: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude upgrade sudo aptitude dist-upgrade Usually that should work. Carsten From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 12:48:41 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:48:41 +0100 Subject: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6293f10702090448r297bc5afhfc56fe6b8368fc36@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > I'm trying out the two filesystems reiser4 and ext4, however, none of those > filesystem is compiled in the kernel, and cannot be mounted. My e2fsprogs is > patched to support ext4, I'm using 2.6.20-6-386 from ubuntu feisty main > repository, > with the latest feisty upgrade. I was wondering if will there be any chance > to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? I think that neither ext4 nor reiser4 are production-ready. However, the look very promising, so I'm looking forward to see them being used in widely used distributions. From ed.smits at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 13:03:07 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:03:07 -0500 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> References: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Thanks, am installing both packages now, will see what I can find out this weekend Cheers ED On 2/9/07, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Ed Smits wrote: > > However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I > > notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot > > of network traffic I can't account for. > > apt-get install nmap > nmap -np > > nmap will show you in brutal detail what is happening on your network > interface(s). > > Also check out ethereal/wireshark. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From funkytwig at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 13:08:32 2007 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:08:32 +0100 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad In-Reply-To: <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> On 09/02/07, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On Mi, 2007-02-07 at 11:21 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote: > > > I would try CDRtools > > > (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+filebug) first. It may > > > be reassigned, but that's a decent start. > > > > I can not assign the bur to CDRtools (or cdrtools) . > you dont assign bugs to packges, you file them on a package, the > developer team then decides which *person* gets it assigned ... > the link above is perfectly right to file the bug on cdrtools, > assignment will be done by the dev team then. OK, think the original question may of got lost. I am trying to assign bug #15424, which was on the dvd+rw-tools package, to a team. My question was what team/person to assign the bug to. The (eronius) answer was to file the bug against cdrtools (which I misunderstood as meaning there is a team called this);(. I have now changed the package to cdrtools so hopefully it will get picked up. It looks like the dvd+rw-tools is a black hole as the bug was created over a year ago and has not be assigned to anyone. Ben > ciao > oli > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Ben Edwards - Brussels, Belgium & Bristol, UK If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Fri Feb 9 14:22:43 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:22:43 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> Message-ID: <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Does anybody know if the current printing problems are also in the main current Debian Stable release as I fear I may have to ditch Ubuntu for a while. I really don't want to but... I need a working printer. Printing in 6.06 is broken for me and I can't seem to find the help I need to fix it. It seems like many people are having similar issues and the many and varied suggestions just don't seem to work this end. Edgy will install on this system but the printer remains broken. Feisty won't install. I think its too experimental for me to get it working on this system. It does not like my voodoo 3000 graphics card. It just stops at the detecting hardware stage and then goes really really slowly and when it comes to loading time it says X server has errors and I can't seem to get past this at the moment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzIOySk8WqQy7AdYRArexAJ9jq9gbTKA3A+Jr5iydSzuwQQ5kNACdG4Ie WGotBNzJmXDwUSn74eeiTHk= =u5x+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From PNewberry at habitat.org Fri Feb 9 14:29:14 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:29:14 -0500 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com><45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu><32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com><1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> http://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter_archives.php?id=40 Any thoughts on this partnership? Click and run (CNR) in ubuntu? Pat www.gypsyfarm.com From scott at kitterman.com Fri Feb 9 14:36:18 2007 From: scott at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:36:18 -0500 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> Message-ID: <200702090936.18330.scott@kitterman.com> On Friday 09 February 2007 09:22, inhabitant of zion wrote: > Hi > > Does anybody know if the current printing problems are also in the main > current Debian Stable release as I fear I may have to ditch Ubuntu for a > while. I really don't want to but... > > I need a working printer. Printing in 6.06 is broken for me and I can't > seem to find the help I need to fix it. It seems like many people are > having similar issues and the many and varied suggestions just don't > seem to work this end. > > Edgy will install on this system but the printer remains broken. > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Scott K From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Fri Feb 9 14:47:34 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:47:34 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <200702090936.18330.scott@kitterman.com> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> <200702090936.18330.scott@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <45CC8986.1050000@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thank you... that is very helpful. > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > Scott K > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzImGSk8WqQy7AdYRAsT7AJwJkw4Y0kdQDsFKtO0JdE7nUmb9ygCeOG2e GWXvPnBmV2ctwVnMb4WYrMo= =i0AF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From toby.kelsey at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 15:02:30 2007 From: toby.kelsey at gmail.com (Toby Kelsey) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:02:30 +0000 Subject: where is the keyboard layout set in the console? In-Reply-To: <718828c0701291703j74c10b97j96b7e087fb2f8bc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <718828c0701291703j74c10b97j96b7e087fb2f8bc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CC8D06.20909@gmail.com> Tomoki Taniguchi wrote: > I don't know which file and what parameters to set > to get ubuntu to use the proper keyboard layout > in the console Opening a terminal and running the command 'man -k console' suggests kbd-config might be useful Then 'man kbd-config' suggests that 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data' might be worth trying. Sometimes Linux is more like a puzzle than an OS. I haven't found the high-score list yet though. > TIA, HTH, TTFN. Toby From matt.price at utoronto.ca Fri Feb 9 15:05:33 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:05:33 -0500 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1171033533.5965.129.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 16:32 -0800, NoOp wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:13 -0800, NoOp wrote: > >> Matt Price wrote: > >> > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution > >> > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and > >> > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to > >> > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, > >> > > >> > matt > >> > > >> > > >> > >> No clue. But you might try here: > >> http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ > >> > > well, if anyone finds anything there I'll be grateful. but I've been up > > and down on that site and in any case the docs seem to cover 2.6, rather > > out of date... > > > > Are you by chance referring to the view with no sidebar? If so, > View|Sidebar checked takes care of that. If not, is it possible to take > a screenshot and post someplace (like imageshack etc)? > I'm curious because a customer has just asked to use Evolution and so I > am testing for them now. It's not the preview pane, but the style in which the message list is displayed. you can set it by hand in view --> Current View , but for some reason the default has been set to "for wide screen". I'm pretty surethe fault is mine, but I can't remember how I did it (some while ago). I'm reorganizing my mail right now so it's particularly irritating . image is at: http://www.derailleur.org/evoscrnshot.png thx, matt > > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Feb 9 15:04:38 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:04:38 +0000 Subject: Can't update In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070209150438.GG7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (09/02/07 15:42), OOzy Pal wrote: > I am trying to update doing > > sudo aptitute upgrade > > but I am getting the following msg > > Reading package lists... > Building dependency tree... > Reading state information... > Reading extended state information... > Initializing package states... > Building tag database... > The following packages have been automatically kept back: > linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic > The following packages have been kept back: > linux-headers-generic > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. > > I tried synaptic and adept with no help too. They're being held back probably because of a dependency problem - you don't really want to install them. Aptitude and synaptic are stopping you installing something which will break your system - be happy :) Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 9 14:26:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:26:31 -0400 Subject: Will there be Reiser4 and Ext4 support for Feisty kernel? References: Message-ID: Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > I'm trying out the two filesystems reiser4 and ext4, however, none of > those filesystem is compiled in the kernel, and cannot be mounted. My > e2fsprogs is patched to support ext4, I'm using 2.6.20-6-386 from ubuntu > feisty main repository, > with the latest feisty upgrade. I was wondering if will there be any > chance to test/use those filesystem under Ubuntu Feisty? They shouldn't need to be "compiled in". mkinitramfs should put them into the initrd image if needed. -- derek From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Feb 9 15:08:22 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:08:22 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> Message-ID: <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (09/02/07 14:22), inhabitant of zion wrote: > Does anybody know if the current printing problems are also in the main > current Debian Stable release as I fear I may have to ditch Ubuntu for a > while. I really don't want to but... > Printing works fine on sarge (debian stable) - I have two servers with printers attached. I can also print from edgy on my workstation. > I need a working printer. Printing in 6.06 is broken for me and I can't > seem to find the help I need to fix it. It seems like many people are > having similar issues and the many and varied suggestions just don't > seem to work this end. You may have postd details of your problem but I haven't seen them. Do you want to report with detail of what you've tried and what errors you're getting? Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Feb 9 15:11:50 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:11:50 -0500 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <20070209151150.GA4443@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 IMHO, this is a very good thing. My question is what does this mean for Ubuntu Universe/Multiverse? Will these repos go away or will they still be available? Will we need to use CnR to install packages normally available from Universe/Multiverse or can we still use apt-get/aptitude/synaptic to access those packages? Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFzI82G9IpekrhBfIRAsYGAKCzzzUJBGHOEyXB+2GGYQDgt1JAgACgth+0 aAR8+wXcOXogWjUh5mYX1uE= =Hy5F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 9 15:13:23 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:13:23 -0600 Subject: where is the keyboard layout set in the console? In-Reply-To: <45CC8D06.20909@gmail.com> References: <718828c0701291703j74c10b97j96b7e087fb2f8bc7@mail.gmail.com> <45CC8D06.20909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CC8F93.2000808@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Toby Kelsey wrote: > Sometimes Linux is more like a puzzle than an OS. I haven't found the > high-score list yet though. :) Any idea how to make garden-variety USB keyboards act as if they were plugged into PS/2 ports? (The virtual terminals and such?) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzI+T6PLtRzZbdhYRAufVAJ4qMgga8ts4jSllRnBE7/SkiQaVDwCfZWDZ 000oOPY7uWdJoDcRotl1gY4= =ZPT1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Fri Feb 9 15:20:48 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:20:48 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > You may have postd details of your problem but I haven't seen them. Do > you want to report with detail of what you've tried and what errors > you're getting? > > Regards > > Clive > Hi Yes I did post the details. I'll do so again. I have a Deskjet 720C which won;t print anymore since I updated 6.06. If I try to install it as a local user I get from /var/log/cups/error_log - E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found! E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found! E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:04 +0000] [Job 18] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] [Job 18] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] PID 21758 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! If I run gnome-cups-manager under sudo I get in the error log - E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:16 +0000] [Job 21] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:20 +0000] [Job 21] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:20 +0000] PID 16864 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! I've not found via Google any answers to this. Did not have much reply on here either. If anybody can help it would be much appreciated as I do like Ubuntu but if I can't get the printing to work its next to useless to me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzJFQSk8WqQy7AdYRAj7KAJ9eU4aScK5VgObURyqTMM3rb+BPAgCeKjDt /Qgc7fkpakyV1gDHKodTVgk= =6WIo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From golfbuf at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 15:21:48 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:21:48 -0500 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player In-Reply-To: References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> <45C9D6D7.10505@gmail.com> <7qip94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <835a7820702090721xb6c5561lfb18e81e4b254a05@mail.gmail.com> Is it possible to use vmware to run a win modem on windows and use the dial up connection on linux? regards, From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 9 14:31:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:31:52 -0400 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ben Edwards wrote: > On 09/02/07, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> hi, >> On Mi, 2007-02-07 at 11:21 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote: >> > > I would try CDRtools >> > > (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+filebug) first. It >> > > may be reassigned, but that's a decent start. >> > >> > I can not assign the bur to CDRtools (or cdrtools) . >> you dont assign bugs to packges, you file them on a package, the >> developer team then decides which *person* gets it assigned ... >> the link above is perfectly right to file the bug on cdrtools, >> assignment will be done by the dev team then. > > OK, think the original question may of got lost. I am trying to > assign bug #15424, which was on the dvd+rw-tools package, to a team. > My question was what team/person to assign the bug to No, the question wasn't lost. _You_ don't assign bugs. > . The (eronius) That's not very nice. Oliver should have a pretty good idea of the mechanisms involved. Oliver gave you the right answer. > answer was to file the bug against cdrtools (which I misunderstood as > meaning there is a team called this);(. I have now changed the > package to cdrtools so hopefully it will get picked up. It looks like > the dvd+rw-tools is a black hole as the bug was created over a year > ago and has not be assigned to anyone. If there are no maintainers, it may not get assigned. If there is only one, he may not bother assigning it. If they're waiting for a fix that already exists upstream, it probably wouldn't get assigned. More importantly, one would want to know if the bug status had ever been changed. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 15:34:47 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:34:47 -0500 Subject: Changing permissions of Binaries installed by apt In-Reply-To: <2f30da460702090117w69c89413i2559c505c261ef08@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f30da460702090117w69c89413i2559c505c261ef08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CC9497.3010306@gatech.edu> Nils wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm the sysadmin of a small group of people. To mount the fileserver I > wrote a small script which uses /sbin/mount.cifs from the smbfs > package. To make the normal users able to mount w/o sudo (and entering > the passwd every time) I set the permissions of mount.cifs setuid > (chmod +s $(which mount.cifs)). I don't think that's really the right way to do that. You should make an fstab entry with the option user . That will allow any user to mount it. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Feb 9 15:48:44 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:48:44 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> Message-ID: <20070209154844.GI7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (09/02/07 15:20), inhabitant of zion wrote: > I have a Deskjet 720C which won;t print anymore since I updated 6.06. If > I try to install it as a local user I get from /var/log/cups/error_log - > > E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication > certificate not found! > E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication > certificate not found! > E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:04 +0000] [Job 18] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! > E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] [Job 18] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- > E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] PID 21758 > (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! OK a couple of things to try: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys if that doesn't get you further forward try: $ sudo aptitude purge cupsys $ sudo aptitude install cupsys I assume the printer is connect directly to your box via usb? Once you've tried the above. In a browser go to: http://localhost:631 There are various options there to reconfigure the printers; you may need to reinstall the ptinter. If you can't get to cups via the browser, add yourself to the shadow group. Good luck :) Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From dlithgow at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 15:52:30 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:52:30 +0100 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso Message-ID: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> Anyone else want to preview Feisty? Now would be a good time to grab the torrent, I'll leave it running for a few hours - so help me and yourself by getting it now. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From elitepenguin at gmx.net Fri Feb 9 15:55:31 2007 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:55:31 +0100 Subject: Changing permissions of Binaries installed by apt In-Reply-To: <45CC9497.3010306@gatech.edu> References: <2f30da460702090117w69c89413i2559c505c261ef08@mail.gmail.com> <45CC9497.3010306@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <2f30da460702090755g1dcfff9fsa2f4e48a17a204c8@mail.gmail.com> lol i should really rtfm i gues I should just write a script which adds the concerning entries to fstab thx for the tipp From s.barron4 at ntlworld.com Fri Feb 9 16:01:43 2007 From: s.barron4 at ntlworld.com (Stuart Barron) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:01:43 -0000 Subject: Unsubscribe Message-ID: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> Hello I have tried using the unsubscribe email address at the bottom of messages but to no avail So could I ask if you could unsubscribe my name off your mailing list? My name is Stuart Barron My e-mail address is s.barron4 at ntlworld.com I am registered as blind with a little useful vision and need to use screen enhancement software; I have tried ubuntu 6.10 live disk but I can't get use to the built in screen enhancement software at the moment. I like the system but can't access it to its full potential so I will wait a little longer and see if it is improved in future editions Regards Stuart Barron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Feb 9 16:04:00 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:04:00 -0500 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso In-Reply-To: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> References: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there a desktop AMD64 torrent available for Feisty yet? I would like to give it a try on my new box. It's a dual core AMD Athlon64x2 that is just begging to be on the bleeding edge, at least for a test run. Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFzJtvG9IpekrhBfIRAqdWAKDIiv9U7r5Q8JuPsXh1jGmcNpzMpQCgzwEb HMhhmqtm9uLCQUUL9s++wq0= =P3J3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Feb 9 16:02:39 2007 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:02:39 +0100 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <20070209154844.GI7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> <20070209154844.GI7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: Clive Menzies wrote: > On (09/02/07 15:20), inhabitant of zion wrote: >> I have a Deskjet 720C which won;t print anymore since I updated 6.06. If >> I try to install it as a local user I get from /var/log/cups/error_log - >> >> E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication >> certificate not found! >> E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication >> certificate not found! >> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:04 +0000] [Job 18] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! >> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] [Job 18] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- >> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] PID 21758 >> (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! > > OK a couple of things to try: > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys > > if that doesn't get you further forward try: > > $ sudo aptitude purge cupsys > > $ sudo aptitude install cupsys > > I assume the printer is connect directly to your box via usb? Once > you've tried the above. In a browser go to: > > http://localhost:631 > > There are various options there to reconfigure the printers; you may > need to reinstall the ptinter. If you can't get to cups via the > browser, add yourself to the shadow group. > > Good luck :) > > Clive > > ...and do not forget to follow John Graddy's advice in regard to hplip. If your printer is supported by hplip (you can find out on the hplip webpage) I am confident, it will work! Good luck from me, as well regards Eberhard From metalhead1009000 at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 16:05:55 2007 From: metalhead1009000 at gmail.com (mike reiser) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:05:55 -0600 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership References: <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com><4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <20070209151150.GA4443@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <00fe01c74c64$2ef6b830$b5e44e8b@D9B66Z91> I think this is good, I just hope that some of the accessibility features found in ubuntu will be implemented in freespire. I'm totally blind and am a windows user at present. Freespire promises easy access for someone who is used to windows. I'd therefore like to have a screenreader capable of supporting that so I can do the same things with Linux that I can with windows. Thanks, Mike aim screen name: chrchmiker. MSN screen name:miker1988 at cox.net. Xanga site: http://www.xanga.com/metalhead1009000Audio blog site: http://www.gcast.com/user/metalhead1009000/podcast/main Move ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorenzo Taylor" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > IMHO, this is a very good thing. My question is what does this mean for > Ubuntu Universe/Multiverse? Will these repos go away or will they still > be available? Will we need to use CnR to install packages normally > available from Universe/Multiverse or can we still use > apt-get/aptitude/synaptic to access those packages? > > Thanks, > Lorenzo > - -- > I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. > - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFzI82G9IpekrhBfIRAsYGAKCzzzUJBGHOEyXB+2GGYQDgt1JAgACgth+0 > aAR8+wXcOXogWjUh5mYX1uE= > =Hy5F > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 16:17:18 2007 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:17:18 +0100 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso In-Reply-To: <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <45CC9E8E.1020709@gmail.com> Hi, all kind of torrents are available for Feisty. There has just been the release of Herd 3 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd3), the third test version (think alpha 3). A AMD64 desktop torrent for this version is available here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-3/feisty-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent HTH, Severin Lorenzo Taylor schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Is there a desktop AMD64 torrent available for Feisty yet? I would like > to give it a try on my new box. It's a dual core AMD Athlon64x2 that is > just begging to be on the bleeding edge, at least for a test run. > > Thanks, > Lorenzo > - -- > I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. > - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFzJtvG9IpekrhBfIRAqdWAKDIiv9U7r5Q8JuPsXh1jGmcNpzMpQCgzwEb > HMhhmqtm9uLCQUUL9s++wq0= > =P3J3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From wwwhsd at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 16:17:24 2007 From: wwwhsd at gmail.com (Henrique Dallazuanna) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:17:24 -0200 Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> References: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> Message-ID: Try this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users/ s.barron4%40ntlworld.com On 09/02/07, Stuart Barron wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have tried using the unsubscribe email address at the bottom of messages > but to no avail > > So could I ask if you could unsubscribe my name off your mailing list? > > > > My name is Stuart Barron > > My e-mail address is s.barron4 at ntlworld.com > > > > I am registered as blind with a little useful vision and need to use > screen enhancement software; I have tried ubuntu 6.10 live disk but I > can't get use to the built in screen enhancement software at the moment. I > like the system but can't access it to its full potential so I will wait a > little longer and see if it is improved in future editions > > > > Regards > > Stuart Barron > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Henrique Dallazuanna Curitiba-Paraná Brasil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Feb 9 16:17:54 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:17:54 -0500 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <00fe01c74c64$2ef6b830$b5e44e8b@D9B66Z91> References: <20070209151150.GA4443@taylor.homelinux.net> <00fe01c74c64$2ef6b830$b5e44e8b@D9B66Z91> Message-ID: <20070209161754.GC15770@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Freespire should gain accessibility features as soon as they are available to KDE. The fact that Freespire defaults to KDE for now makes the accessibility limited. KDE developers, however, are working to get the needed accessibility features implemented in KDE, and so things like Orca should work with it once complete. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFzJ6yG9IpekrhBfIRApqoAKCRBzUwYME+wxjeMQXir6spZD6cYQCfeYQ6 Gox7BrWxZwDAGsosQKWyEl8= =VZWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wwwhsd at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 16:19:22 2007 From: wwwhsd at gmail.com (Henrique Dallazuanna) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:19:22 -0200 Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: References: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> Message-ID: Oops, Correcting: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users/ s.barron4%40ntlworld.com > On 09/02/07, Stuart Barron wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I have tried using the unsubscribe email address at the bottom of > > messages but to no avail > > > > So could I ask if you could unsubscribe my name off your mailing list? > > > > > > > > My name is Stuart Barron > > > > My e-mail address is s.barron4 at ntlworld.com > > > > > > > > I am registered as blind with a little useful vision and need to use > > screen enhancement software; I have tried ubuntu 6.10 live disk but I > > can't get use to the built in screen enhancement software at the moment. I > > like the system but can't access it to its full potential so I will wait a > > little longer and see if it is improved in future editions > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Stuart Barron > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > Henrique Dallazuanna > Curitiba-Paraná > Brasil -- Henrique Dallazuanna Curitiba-Paraná Brasil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlithgow at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 16:20:15 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:20:15 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> References: <001d01c74c63$9c39b790$9e031556@STUARTBARRON> Message-ID: <1171038015.13989.5.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 16:01 +0000, Stuart Barron wrote: Sorry Stuart, but only you can unsubscribe yourself. You might have misunderstood the message at the bottom, there is no address to unsubscribe like on the major-domo lists. You need to visit the link https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users and go from there. Then you get a confirmation email you have to reply to. I hope that helps. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Feb 9 16:21:42 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:21:42 -0500 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso In-Reply-To: <45CC9E8E.1020709@gmail.com> References: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> <45CC9E8E.1020709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070209162142.GD15770@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the AMD64 torrent link. That helped a lot. Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFzJ+WG9IpekrhBfIRAoIRAJ4nCKQrTXOAO1oC2JdScw8m+lhofQCgihZE KF2hVe5U4R/T4vErCGNaPug= =rIvn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Feb 9 16:30:48 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:30:48 +0100 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> Message-ID: <200702091630.l19GUofO030964@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> >From the HP drivers page linux I found this link. Worth a try. http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_720C [Trevor Nye] HTH From T.Six at gmx.de Fri Feb 9 16:32:05 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:32:05 +0100 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso In-Reply-To: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> References: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow wrote the following on 09.02.2007 16:52: > Anyone else want to preview Feisty? Now would be a good time to grab the > torrent, I'll leave it running for a few hours - so help me and yourself > by getting it now. > > Duncan with the alternate CD be just aware of: <---------------------------------------------------------------- This is an early set of images, so you can expect some bugs. Among these are the following (so you do not need to bother reporting these if you encounter them): * The alternate i386 install CD takes a very long time (about five minutes) to do hardware detection on some machines. During that period, the installer will look like it has hung or blue-screened. Adding hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false to the kernel command line works around this problem. ----------------------------------------------------------------> happy testing :) myself will give it a shot again, too. bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From T.Six at gmx.de Fri Feb 9 16:48:41 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:48:41 +0100 Subject: update problem In-Reply-To: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: Paul Kaplan wrote the following on 09.02.2007 02:01: > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select > either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade will > break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? > Paul > it is known and it devs are working on it: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976/ bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From T.Six at gmx.de Fri Feb 9 16:49:11 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:49:11 +0100 Subject: latest updates In-Reply-To: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> References: <1170940044.14202.201.camel@localhost> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote the following on 08.02.2007 14:07: > Update notifier was turned on this morning... > On giving the sudo pass, I show this... > Cannot install all available updates > > Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function > "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo > apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely. > > The following updates will be skipped - > > inux-image-386 > linux-restricted-modules-386 > > I haven't made any changes to my system (outside of normal updates)... > Anyone know what the reason for this could be? it is known and it devs are working on it: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976/ bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Feb 9 04:14:51 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:14:51 +0100 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> (inhabitant of zion's message of "Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:59:20 +0000") References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> Message-ID: <87y7n82chw.fsf@spamfence.net> inhabitant of zion wrote: > I read somewhere its problem with system wide settings in > gnome-cups-manager. > > So I ran it under sudo. > > Now I get in the error log - > > E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:16 +0000] [Job 21] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! > E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:20 +0000] [Job 21] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- > E [08/Feb/2007:08:33:20 +0000] PID 16864 > (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! > > Anybody care to make some suggestion as to where I go from here. It looks like a problem with Postscript. As Postscript is the file format most progrsams use for printing this is maybe a problem with some application not the printing system in general. What progream are you printing from? Does printing from other programs work? The "[Job 21]" tells which printing job has pronblems. Are there any other oiunes about this job? Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Feb 9 04:45:45 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:45:45 +0100 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: (Ed Smits's message of "Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:17:26 -0500") References: Message-ID: <87irec2b2e.fsf@spamfence.net> "Ed Smits" wrote: > 2) what would be the best tool to try and monitor/analyze this > traffic, preferably GUI based if possible. wireshark Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Feb 9 04:24:58 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:24:58 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to Edgy [...] sound and video format hell. PARTIALLY SOLVED In-Reply-To: <1170905151.5248.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Michael T. Richter's message of "Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:25:50 +0800") References: <1170848977.7929.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45C9CC8E.9030806@yandex.ru> <1170905151.5248.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87tzxw2c11.fsf@spamfence.net> "Michael T. Richter" wrote: > So this leaves me now with the video format Hell. I still can't play > videos in DivX/Xvid format despite having hunted and downloaded a > DivX6 codec (or what was purported to be a DivX6 codec). > Interestingly now the error message that pops up is different. Before > I hunted down this codec it was complaining that the files (which, > recall, I played only a few days ago under Dapper without problems) > were in the unsupported "DivX 5" format. Now that I have this codec > it complains that it's in the unsupported "Xvid" format.... I can't > seem to win for losing on this one. Which program do you use to play the videos? Can you upload one of them somewhere so we could get it to try it out? Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Feb 9 04:38:55 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:38:55 +0100 Subject: Weird Sounds from Firefox (Edgy) In-Reply-To: <1170908141.5248.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Michael T. Richter's message of "Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:15:41 +0800") References: <1170908141.5248.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87mz3o2bds.fsf@spamfence.net> "Michael T. Richter" wrote: > New behaviour from Firefox now that I've done my "upgrade" to Edgy: when I > close or switch tabs it sometimes issues a weird "whistle" sound. It's not > happening 100% of the time -- more like 80% -- which is weird, but it is always > associated with some kind of Firefox + tabs scenario. > > Googling for it got me lots of pages talking about getting sound under Firefox > for YouTube and the like, but no reports of sound on Firefox events. System > settings have all sounds disabled but for login and logout. Nothing in > Firefox's preferences gives any hint about sounds. > > What's the next step for getting rid of this annoying sound? Do you have any extensions installed? 1) Start firefox as firefox -ProfileManager create a new profile and use it. If this stops the sounds it's a problem with your profile. Check about:config and your extensions. 2) Start firefox as firefox -safe-mode If this stops the sound it's aproblem with your extenisons or theme. Florian -- From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 9 17:49:00 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:49:00 -0800 Subject: evolution default view? In-Reply-To: <1171033533.5965.129.camel@localhost> References: <1170950413.20007.28.camel@localhost> <1170970438.5965.91.camel@localhost> <1171033533.5965.129.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Matt Price wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 16:32 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> Matt Price wrote: >> > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:13 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> >> Matt Price wrote: >> >> > gaha, can anyone remind me of how to set the default view in evolution >> >> > email? I have somehow set the default to "widescreen" which I hate; and >> >> > every time I make a new folder or move an old one the view gets reset to >> >> > widescreen. totally annoying! anything I can do? thanks, >> >> > >> >> > matt >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> No clue. But you might try here: >> >> http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ >> >> >> > well, if anyone finds anything there I'll be grateful. but I've been up >> > and down on that site and in any case the docs seem to cover 2.6, rather >> > out of date... >> > >> >> Are you by chance referring to the view with no sidebar? If so, >> View|Sidebar checked takes care of that. If not, is it possible to take >> a screenshot and post someplace (like imageshack etc)? >> I'm curious because a customer has just asked to use Evolution and so I >> am testing for them now. > > It's not the preview pane, but the style in which the message list is > displayed. you can set it by hand in view --> Current View , but for > some reason the default has been set to "for wide screen". I'm pretty > surethe fault is mine, but I can't remember how I did it (some while > ago). I'm reorganizing my mail right now so it's particularly > irritating . > > image is at: > http://www.derailleur.org/evoscrnshot.png > > thx, > matt I assume that you are trying to get back to this default view? http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3787/evo261xu7.png [that is from a never used 2.6.1] Perhaps you installed a patch as mention here? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262742 Also see: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/sragavan/2006/06/01/0 From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Feb 9 18:24:18 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:24:18 -0500 Subject: update problem In-Reply-To: References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200702091324.18418.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Friday 09 February 2007 11:48, Thilo Six wrote: > Paul Kaplan wrote the following on 09.02.2007 02:01: > > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select > > either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade > > will break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? > > Paul > > it is known and it devs are working on it: > > https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976/ > The new kernel is released (at least for Edgy). Scott K From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 18:35:26 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:35:26 -0500 Subject: Internet connection problem with 6.10 and ADSL modem/router In-Reply-To: <000601c74ba2$3677e240$0301a8c0@sony> References: <000601c74ba2$3677e240$0301a8c0@sony> Message-ID: <45CCBEEE.4080700@gatech.edu> Bill Fleming wrote: > I'm using a D-Link ADSL modem/router which works well with Windows XP, Internet Explorer and Outlook But when running Firefox the > waiting circle spins for a couple of minutes then gives me an error message to say the connection has timed out and the requested website did > not respond in time. Does Firefox work on Windows? Did you try using the Epiphany browser on Ubuntu? > This happens with www.ubuntu.com as well as every other URL I have tried, except one. I have followed the setup > instructions in Ubuntu and rechecked the modem/router settings from Ubuntu. I've tested the connection with Ping from within Firefox You can't test ping from within Firefox. You want to go to a console (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands) and type: ping google.com then press enter. You should see something like: 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=32.5 ms repeated if your connection is working. Wait for a few seconds, then press: Control-c. Reply with a copy of this output. > This laptop is connected to the modem/router with Ubuntu 6.10 installed on the other machine. What other machine? Please explain your network better. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 18:50:18 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:50:18 -0500 Subject: update problem In-Reply-To: <200702091324.18418.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200702091324.18418.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <1171047019.14202.253.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 13:24 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday 09 February 2007 11:48, Thilo Six wrote: > > Paul Kaplan wrote the following on 09.02.2007 02:01: > > > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > > > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select > > > either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade > > > will break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? > > > Paul > > > > it is known and it devs are working on it: > > > > https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976/ > > > The new kernel is released (at least for Edgy). > > Scott K > It seems odd that the bug reported (and all duplicates) talk heavily about the problem on Edgy, yet Dapper LTS (_long term support_) isn't mentioned as even being looked at. I would think that the emphasis would be on the long term supported version of the OS, with related issues being tied to future release versions. It appears (according to the launchpad communications) to be just the opposite. Also, I read through the 21 page forum entry regarding this, then looked up various other incantations of this problem, yet didn't see any mention of it at Ubuntu... I would think that some sort of special notation should be given to it so that the list, forums, launchpad, etc aren't flooded with messages. I would also think that, since the developers/maintainers have been duly notified, they would be able to respond with a tentative target window for getting this repaired and getting the repo's up to speed... From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 9 19:03:34 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:03:34 -0800 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: <87irec2b2e.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <87irec2b2e.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: Florian Diesch wrote: > "Ed Smits" wrote: > >> 2) what would be the best tool to try and monitor/analyze this >> traffic, preferably GUI based if possible. > > wireshark ^^^^^^^^^^ Just make sure you have the current version... http://secunia.com/search/?search=wireshark http://www.wireshark.org/security/wnpa-sec-2007-01.html From jason at joines.org Fri Feb 9 19:06:19 2007 From: jason at joines.org (Jason Joines) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:06:19 -0600 Subject: manually downloading Ubuntu kernels. Message-ID: <45CCC62B.6090906@joines.org> Where can you manually download Ubuntu kernels. I've browsed the archives at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com but all I've found with kernel package names are files just a few KB in size that appear to be metadata instead of actual kernels. I'm using 2.6.17 on Kubuntu 6.10 but need to try an older kernel and can't seem to get anything earlier than 2.6.17 to compile. Since Ubuntu 6.06 was using a 2.6.15 kernel I thought I'd try that but have been unable to find it. Jason Joines ================================= From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Feb 9 19:07:51 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:07:51 -0500 Subject: update problem In-Reply-To: <1171047019.14202.253.camel@localhost> References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200702091324.18418.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <1171047019.14202.253.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200702091407.51586.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Friday 09 February 2007 13:50, John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 13:24 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday 09 February 2007 11:48, Thilo Six wrote: > > > Paul Kaplan wrote the following on 09.02.2007 02:01: > > > > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > > > > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to > > > > select either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the > > > > upgrade will break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing > > > > upgrade? Paul > > > > > > it is known and it devs are working on it: > > > > > > https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976/ > > > > The new kernel is released (at least for Edgy). > > > > Scott K > > It seems odd that the bug reported (and all duplicates) talk heavily > about the problem on Edgy, yet Dapper LTS (_long term support_) isn't > mentioned as even being looked at. > > I would think that the emphasis would be on the long term supported > version of the OS, with related issues being tied to future release > versions. It appears (according to the launchpad communications) to be > just the opposite. > > Also, I read through the 21 page forum entry regarding this, then looked > up various other incantations of this problem, yet didn't see any > mention of it at Ubuntu... I would think that some sort of special > notation should be given to it so that the list, forums, launchpad, etc > aren't flooded with messages. I would also think that, since the > developers/maintainers have been duly notified, they would be able to > respond with a tentative target window for getting this repaired and > getting the repo's up to speed... I think it's a function of what most people are running. The bug was in Soyuz (the build system) not specific to a release. I just checked on my Dapper box and the new kernel is there for Dapper too. Scott K From rvernica at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 19:09:11 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:09:11 -0800 Subject: disable autocomplete of the home path ( possible clues) In-Reply-To: <20070208113738.6750fcb0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45C9F057.50300@welcomes-you.com> <20070208113738.6750fcb0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:27 +0100 > Carsten Aulbert wrote: > >> Rares Vernica wrote: >>> In Bash, when I type something like "~/" and I press TAB, the "~" is >>> replaced with the path to my home (e.g. "/home/username"). I would like >>> to turn this feature off. Is it possible? >> That is a yes >> >>> I don't want to turn off the other auto-completion features, like >>> directory and file names auto-completion, just the "~" replacement. >> That's the harder part. My guess is, it belongs to the readline interface >> Thus putting 'set tilde-expand Off' in ~/.incputrc *should* alter that, >> according to 'man bash' or 'man readline', however, I didn't succeed. >> >> Maybe you should search in that direction. > > OK - I did a bit of comparison with a Debian Sid chroot I have running > here, and discovered the following: > > 1: Debian does not complete the tilde on ~/ ( for instance cd ~/deb > does not expand to /home/peter/debs but remains ~/debs ) > > 2. Debian sets the PATH in /etc/profile and does not > source /etc/bash.bashrc from /etc/profile > > 3. Apparently Ubuntu uses /etc/environment to set the PATH > > 4. If the following is commented out in /etc/profile on Ubuntu, it behaves > like Debian ( no tilde expansion) > > # if [ -f /etc/bash.bashrc ]; then > # . /etc/bash.bashrc > # fi > > This appears not to affect the PATH , which is set for users > in /etc/environment in Ubuntu for reasons which remain triumphantly > unclear to me ;-) Something to do with pam ?? > > Commenting those lines in /etc/profile might break other things in new and > entertaining ways of which I am unaware ;-) , but this seems to be at > least a clue. > > /etc/bash.bashrc has a function which is *supposed* to > enable tilde expansion, but commenting that function out had no apparent > effect here. > > Peter > It works. Thanks a lot, Ray From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 9 18:54:15 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:54:15 -0400 Subject: Run your EXISTING Windows Installation on Ubuntu with Vmware Player References: <45C998AB.9000803@knology.net> <45C9D6D7.10505@gmail.com> <7qip94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <835a7820702090721xb6c5561lfb18e81e4b254a05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: golfer wrote: > Is it possible to use vmware to run a win modem on windows and use the > dial up connection on linux? Nothing in the VM touches real hardware, so I should think not. -- derek From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 20:03:00 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:03:00 -0500 Subject: Ruby on Rails install Message-ID: <1171051380.14202.260.camel@localhost> I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS and am in the process of installing ruby and rails. I've been following the Dapper installation setup at http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake 2 questions... During this process (sudo ruby setup.rb) I notice it says that it is removing Removing old RubyGems RDoc and ri... and installing updated versions. Should I pin those apps in Synaptic to avoid conflicts? After that installation is complete, the next step says this: sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies And, this is what I get - Bulk updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::GemNotFoundException) Could not find rails (> 0) in any repository I'm a little confused at this point, since I thought that this process would install rails... What am I doing wrong? From mail at fleming41.me.uk Fri Feb 9 20:19:09 2007 From: mail at fleming41.me.uk (Bill Fleming) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:19:09 -0000 Subject: Internet connection problem with 6.10 and ADSL modem/router Message-ID: <001e01c74c87$910f8d80$0301a8c0@sony> Many thanks for your help, Matthew. I'm afraid I didn't explain my problem very well in the original message. I am running Firefox only on Ubuntu on my desktop machine where it is dual booted with Windows XP. I haven't tried Firefox on Windows nor have I tried Epiphany on the Ubuntu machine and I'm not sure how to. Am I likely to find Epiphany on the Ubuntu 6.10 disc? I'm sending this message from my laptop which is Windows XP only, but is connected to the desktop machine by Ethernet and the ADSL modem/router. I haven't yet tried the ping test you suggested as the desktop machine is in use at the moment by someone else. My problems seem to be escalating. I did manage to get my printer running from the desktop machine by ticking the LAN boxes in the printer setup sequence, but now the printer does not seem to work from the laptop. I seem to have done something else to the Ubunto setup becaue Ubuntu has now started to run very slowly. That is, it takes 30 seconds to open Firefox or Evolution or one of the installed games! A restart does not improve the speed. Any idea why it might be doing this and how I could sort it out? I haven't tried to install any other software or updates. The only Ubuntu files on the machine are those installed from the setup disc. If all else fails, I suppose I should reinstall Ubuntu and start again. Bill Fleming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Gem::GemNotFoundException) > Could not find rails (> 0) in any repository Odd. The second time I tried this command, it worked. Now, the only _glitch_ seems to be during install of actionpack through gem. I get - gymsmoke at croatus:~/rubygems-0.9.2$ sudo gem install actionpack Successfully installed actionpack-1.13.2 Installing ri documentation for actionpack-1.13.2... lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1061:30: ':' not followed by identified or operator lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1065:39: ':' not followed by identified or operator Installing RDoc documentation for actionpack-1.13.2... lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1061:30: ':' not followed by identified or operator lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1065:39: ':' not followed by identified or operator From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 20:35:23 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:35:23 -0500 Subject: manually downloading Ubuntu kernels. In-Reply-To: <45CCC62B.6090906@joines.org> References: <45CCC62B.6090906@joines.org> Message-ID: <45CCDB0B.4090303@gatech.edu> Jason Joines wrote: > Where can you manually download Ubuntu kernels. I've browsed the > archives at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com but all I've found with kernel > package names are files just a few KB in size that appear to be metadata > instead of actual kernels. > > I'm using 2.6.17 on Kubuntu 6.10 but need to try an older kernel and > can't seem to get anything earlier than 2.6.17 to compile. Since Ubuntu > 6.06 was using a 2.6.15 kernel I thought I'd try that but have been > unable to find it. Try http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/ . However, I doubt you'll be able to use an older kernel with Edgy. What are you testing? Maybe you should just install Dapper on another machine (if possible). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do i do this on ubuntu? > > > > thx :) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 20:43:55 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:43:55 -0500 Subject: Internet connection problem with 6.10 and ADSL modem/router In-Reply-To: <001e01c74c87$910f8d80$0301a8c0@sony> References: <001e01c74c87$910f8d80$0301a8c0@sony> Message-ID: <45CCDD0B.1020203@gatech.edu> Bill Fleming wrote: > Many thanks for your help, Matthew. I'm afraid I didn't explain my problem very well in the original message. I am running Firefox only on > Ubuntu on my desktop machine where it is dual booted with Windows XP. I haven't tried Firefox on Windows nor have I tried Epiphany on the > Ubuntu machine and I'm not sure how to. Am I likely to find Epiphany on the Ubuntu 6.10 disc? Yes, I'm almost certain Epiphany is installed by default. Look for it in the GNOME menu. I'm sending this message from my laptop which is > Windows XP only, but is connected to the desktop machine by Ethernet and the ADSL modem/router. I haven't yet tried the ping test you > suggested as the desktop machine is in use at the moment by someone else. Okay. Don't forget to try it later and get back to me. > My problems seem to be escalating. I did manage to get my printer > running from the desktop machine by ticking the LAN boxes in the printer setup sequence, but now the printer does not seem to work from the > laptop. Where is the printer connected? > I seem to have done something else to the Ubunto setup becaue Ubuntu has now started to run very slowly. That's strange. I don't know what would cause that. That is, it takes 30 > seconds to open Firefox or Evolution or one of the installed games! A restart does not improve the speed. Any idea why it might be > doing this and how I could sort it out? I haven't tried to install any other software or updates. You said before you tried to install Flash. Are you sure you didn't install anything else? The only Ubuntu files on the machine are those > installed from the setup disc. If all else fails, I suppose I should reinstall Ubuntu and start again. That might be best, but don't do that yet. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Fetched 242kB in 38s (6315B/s) Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Reading package lists... Done W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 20:46:24 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:46:24 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Stops Responding In-Reply-To: <200702070539.36001.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <45C92659.5040500@gatech.edu> <200702062035.38278.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <45C92EC5.3010309@gatech.edu> <200702070539.36001.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45CCDDA0.4090107@gatech.edu> Paul Kaplan wrote: > In my case, no keys responded, so I wasn't even able to log off. My only way > out was to (metaphorically) yank the plug and then reboot. > Paul Why did you need the keyboard to log off? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fmccormick at videotron.ca Fri Feb 9 21:05:09 2007 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:05:09 -0500 Subject: dapper updates In-Reply-To: <1171053835.1942.4.camel@localhost> References: <1171053835.1942.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070209160509.4304e6a1.fmccormick@videotron.ca> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:43:55 -0500 John Dangler wrote: > My guess is that the repo's are being updated, since I'm getting this > at the moment... > > gymsmoke at croatus:~/rosegarden-1.5.0$ sudo apt-get update > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release ///snip/// > 24.4kB/s 0s > bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; > perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. > bzip2: Inappropriate ioctl for device > Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) > > It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. > You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. > > You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover > data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. > > Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages > Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) > Fetched 242kB in 38s (6315B/s) > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 > Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Reading package lists... > Done W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com > dapper/multiverse Packages > (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) > W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com > dapper-security/multiverse Packages > (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old > ones used instead. > Strange you're still getting that -- the Canadian mirror has been updated already and I have the new (Dapper) kernel and some other Gnome language stuff (c). Cheers Frank From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 9 21:53:17 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:53:17 -0600 Subject: Stupid questions I need answered In-Reply-To: <45CCC209.7000301@gatech.edu> References: <45CA89E0.1030708@fahrlander.net> <45CCC209.7000301@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CCED4D.7060008@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> I'm on the net; Firefox these days. I grab a link that says "Listen >> Live" into Rhythmbox. > > What link, on what web site? Here's one: we want to put WLSAM.com's feed into RB: http://rope.wlsam.com/mp3player/wls.pls I open the "Add new radio station" box, and attempt to drag the "MP3" link above into that box. Well isn't that a bitch- it worked. It even took the drag-to-panel and didn't require me to bring up the new-station box. Hmm. >> Again in Firefox, I visit a site that has the RSS button. > > Please, be specific. What is the URL? Here's the example. I'm on Slashdot.org. At the bottom is has "RSS" though not in the nice little orange box that I remember. That link is: http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot I drag it to the toolbar (where the other one is, but I can't remember how it got there) and it gives me a single URL, not a button with all the headlines in it. I'll keep an eye out for the other applications; I've had to use the terminal for so long, I've forgotten which ones they were! :) And thanks for replying, even if my first example seems to have worked itself out. :> - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzO1N6PLtRzZbdhYRArwjAJ9toMz2uxIOvzY44lKPQteH9TQGEwCdEsr3 lbRiuH9YpShcK6VPgEATlM4= =jKSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jason at joines.org Fri Feb 9 22:01:52 2007 From: jason at joines.org (Jason Joines) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:01:52 -0600 Subject: manually downloading Ubuntu kernels. In-Reply-To: <45CCDB0B.4090303@gatech.edu> References: <45CCC62B.6090906@joines.org> <45CCDB0B.4090303@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CCEF50.1070708@joines.org> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jason Joines wrote: >> Where can you manually download Ubuntu kernels. I've browsed the >> archives at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com but all I've found with kernel >> package names are files just a few KB in size that appear to be metadata >> instead of actual kernels. >> >> I'm using 2.6.17 on Kubuntu 6.10 but need to try an older kernel and >> can't seem to get anything earlier than 2.6.17 to compile. Since Ubuntu >> 6.06 was using a 2.6.15 kernel I thought I'd try that but have been >> unable to find it. > > Try http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/ > . However, I doubt you'll be able to use an older kernel with Edgy. > What are you testing? Maybe you should just install Dapper on another > machine (if possible). > > Matthew Flaschen Thanks, I'll try one of those. It's an lm-sensors issue. I can't control the fans on my MythTV box. It's an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard. The box came with Fedora Core 5 on it with a 2.6.16 kernel. I didn't care for Fedora and the install was broken anyway. I'd just switched to Kubuntu from SuSE (after 7 years of SuSE use because of the novell microshaft deal ) so I installed Kubuntu on it instead. Everything is working and is being used heavily but I can't get the fans to quieten down. The Fedora install used a module, w83627ehf, that won't load in Ubuntu 2.6.17. I tried 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 also. After much Googling it seems that there was a bug introduced in 2.6.17 that won't have a fix until 2.6.21. The bug wasn't present prior to 2.6.17. I had no problems compiling 2.6.17 and later from either the Ubuntu or Vanilla sources but can't get anything earlier to work. It fails with lots of references to "undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'". SuSE used to provide a KOTD ( kernel of the day ) area on their FTP server where you could get various pre-compiled kernels to try at your own risk. I'm still learning my way around Ubuntu. Jason =========== From justicel at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 9 22:05:11 2007 From: justicel at bellsouth.net (Linda Justice) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:05:11 -0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000801c74c96$5ea22b00$640aa8c0@your266bb9sjnq> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 22:18:07 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:18:07 -0500 Subject: dapper updates In-Reply-To: <20070209160509.4304e6a1.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <1171053835.1942.4.camel@localhost> <20070209160509.4304e6a1.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <1171059487.1942.8.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 16:05 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:43:55 -0500 > John Dangler wrote: > > > My guess is that the repo's are being updated, since I'm getting this > > at the moment... > > > > gymsmoke at croatus:~/rosegarden-1.5.0$ sudo apt-get update > > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] > > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] > > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release > > ///snip/// > > > 24.4kB/s 0s > > bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; > > perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. > > bzip2: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) > > > > It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. > > You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. > > > > You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover > > data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. > > > > Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages > > Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) > > Fetched 242kB in 38s (6315B/s) > > Failed to fetch > > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 > > Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Reading package lists... > > Done W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com > > dapper/multiverse Packages > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) > > W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com > > dapper-security/multiverse Packages > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) > > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old > > ones used instead. > > > > > Strange you're still getting that -- the Canadian mirror has been > updated already and I have the new (Dapper) kernel and some other Gnome > language stuff (c). Nope... 3 hours later, and it still does the same thing on apt-get update... I guess the U.S. servers are the last ones to get updated... Maybe by tomorrow they'll be fixed. > > > Cheers > > > Frank > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 23:07:23 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:07:23 -0500 Subject: Stupid questions I need answered In-Reply-To: <45CCED4D.7060008@fahrlander.net> References: <45CA89E0.1030708@fahrlander.net> <45CCC209.7000301@gatech.edu> <45CCED4D.7060008@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45CCFEAB.3020001@gatech.edu> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Here's the example. I'm on Slashdot.org. At the bottom is has > "RSS" though not in the nice little orange box that I remember. That > link is: > > http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot > > I drag it to the toolbar (where the other one is, but I can't > remember how it got there) and it gives me a single URL, not a button > with all the headlines in it. When I go that URL in Firefox 2, I see the standard message, "Subscribe to this feed using Live Bookmarks". I suggest you try going to the URL and doing that. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just makes it easier for proprietary software to creep into an OS that is supposed (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy) to be libre. I'm looking into Gnewsense (http://www.gnewsense.org/), a seriously libre version of Ubuntu, again. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 9 23:14:43 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:14:43 -0500 Subject: system refresh Message-ID: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> I'm thinking of refreshing the install of my Ubuntu desktop. I've fooled with loading and unloading so many different apps that I've pretty well trashed my setup, and, although I use this box every day, I figure with a tarball backup of my home directory (and a tarball of the entire system), I can get back what I need, which is essentially just mail (critical), and possibly my keyring and dev files... I have the Dapper cd, and I know I want the gnome desktop and OO.o (I've been tempted to go to KDE a few times, but have never taken the plunge, since I'm used to gnome), but I know that I want to add - NVIDIA (this is critical to get X to start at all... vmware-server (for a Win part) Some graphics pkgs - Gimp, Blender, Inkscape, Scribus Internet Tools - Skype/Wengo (I need to try this out) gaim, bmon, ethereal, firefox (with dev plugins) flash-player9, gxine A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). I have a webcam (Logitech Pro 3000) with audio/video, but have never gotten that to work... I have a Lexmark 6500 all-in-one printer (but have never gotten that to work, either). Other apps - rosegarden (the repo versions are waaay old, so I'd like to produce the .deb file for this one and put it to the repo folks to include, although I know it needs a newer version of cmake than what's in the repo's at this moment.) Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the system, and just restore my .evo directory? Also, any suggestions on other apps would be cool. I've tried a good number of them, some of which I'll re install later, but for the moment, I just want to refresh the system install and basic apps that I know I'll need. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 9 23:21:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:21:52 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java > JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd > (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. > > Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the > system, and just restore my .evo directory? Probably, but I don't use Evolution (or Ubuntu). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 23:55:37 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:55:37 +0100 Subject: Sharing files between Ubuntu 6.06 and Windows XP Pro - best disk format to use In-Reply-To: <45CD050C.4070207@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702030302v52574c0frf681ef73d7f2f995@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702032017l7d86029cp9f03c401ca744759@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702041618i312e8535ke4472b64efe9b44e@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702070549i42d563e7o30b9a0849bc30e49@mail.gmail.com> <43jp94-5bp.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <77520bee0702071122n4101a69bq801b290506edf22d@mail.gmail.com> <45CD050C.4070207@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CD09F9.1050401@gmail.com> Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > Eric Dunbar wrote: >> However, given that there are some people (using VMware) in the OSS >> community who vehemently defend Ubuntu/GNU as being in the right for >> rejecting licence x, y or z as not being this or that (or compatible >> with licence a, b or c) they MUST acknowledge and respect any >> licencing restrictions placed upon the use of VMware Player by its >> creator. > > I don't have to respect or adhere to their licensing restrictions if I > don't use their product. > Sure, you're not concerned by that if you don't use it :) From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 00:07:20 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:07:20 +0100 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > John Dangler wrote: >> A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java >> JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd >> (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). > > You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU > Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. Sun Java is now (by novenber 2006) under an GPL compatible license. So I 'll suggest people to use it cause I guess no one knows more than Sun how the Java JVM should run. So John you can safely use Sun Java. >> Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the >> system, and just restore my .evo directory? Yeah , it should be enough to restore all your evolution settings and mails From rvernica at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 00:25:29 2007 From: rvernica at gmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:25:29 -0800 Subject: acroread package in Feisty Message-ID: Hi, Why isn't acroread part of Feisty? It is part of Edgy. Is there any workaround to get the application? Thanks, Ray From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Feb 10 00:36:28 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:36:28 -0500 Subject: system refresh [update] In-Reply-To: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1171067788.1942.51.camel@localhost> Prior to wiping and starting the cd install again, I'll make a tarball of my home dir but also other files which I'd like to be able to restore... /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/networking/interfaces Any others that would be good to have? On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:14 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > I'm thinking of refreshing the install of my Ubuntu desktop. I've > fooled with loading and unloading so many different apps that I've > pretty well trashed my setup, and, although I use this box every day, I > figure with a tarball backup of my home directory (and a tarball of the > entire system), I can get back what I need, which is essentially just > mail (critical), and possibly my keyring and dev files... > > I have the Dapper cd, and I know I want the gnome desktop and OO.o (I've > been tempted to go to KDE a few times, but have never taken the plunge, > since I'm used to gnome), but I know that I want to add - > > NVIDIA (this is critical to get X to start at all... > > vmware-server (for a Win part) > > Some graphics pkgs - > Gimp, Blender, Inkscape, Scribus > > Internet Tools - Skype/Wengo (I need to try this out) > gaim, bmon, ethereal, firefox (with dev plugins) > > flash-player9, gxine > > A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java > JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd > (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). > > I have a webcam (Logitech Pro 3000) with audio/video, but have never > gotten that to work... > > I have a Lexmark 6500 all-in-one printer (but have never gotten that to > work, either). > > Other apps - rosegarden (the repo versions are waaay old, so I'd like to > produce the .deb file for this one and put it to the repo folks to > include, although I know it needs a newer version of cmake than what's > in the repo's at this moment.) > > Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the > system, and just restore my .evo directory? > > Also, any suggestions on other apps would be cool. I've tried a good > number of them, some of which I'll re install later, but for the moment, > I just want to refresh the system install and basic apps that I know > I'll need. > > From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 10 00:38:20 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:38:20 +0100 Subject: acroread package in Feisty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171067900.5301.27.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 16:25 -0800, Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > Why isn't acroread part of Feisty? It is part of Edgy. Because Feisty is in development and cannot reasonably be expected to have all the features of a stable release? > Is there any workaround to get the application? Try to go here [1], download the *.deb files and try to install by doubleclicking. Alternatively, try apt pinning [2] [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=acroread [2] http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 00:40:05 2007 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:40:05 -0400 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 Message-ID: <865773ce0702091640l2ec3a410u4b3dab9ef6b4013f@mail.gmail.com> hi, I got this error while upgrading The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 I am running ubuntu dapper, this is my /etc/apt/sources.lst -------- deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted --------- Any clues? any other with this problem? thanks in advance. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Sat Feb 10 00:53:03 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:53:03 +0000 Subject: printer problems In-Reply-To: References: <45CA06B5.4040506@eml.cc> <1170886229.25005.4.camel@winlin> <45CAE668.4050002@eml.cc> <45CC83B3.7070500@eml.cc> <20070209150822.GH7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45CC9150.9050009@eml.cc> <20070209154844.GI7630@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <45CD176F.5060408@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thx guys... I fixed it in a very round the houses route. I installed feisty, sorted the issues with my 3dfx voodoo 3 card (Its not the best. But then the card has never worked very well under Ubuntu - - its about as stable as a peg legged pirate after a barrel of rum!), with the current version of gnome cups manager in feisty the printing works. Oddly if I network share the printer it even works under edgy on my other two workstations which just about takes the biscuit in my opinion! If I connected the printer direct to them they would not even recognise it but over a network share its all fine and dandy. Grrr computers!!!! Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Clive Menzies wrote: >> On (09/02/07 15:20), inhabitant of zion wrote: >>> I have a Deskjet 720C which won;t print anymore since I updated 6.06. If >>> I try to install it as a local user I get from /var/log/cups/error_log - >>> >>> E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication >>> certificate not found! >>> E [07/Feb/2007:16:56:06 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication >>> certificate not found! >>> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:04 +0000] [Job 18] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! >>> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] [Job 18] /ioerror in --.outputpage-- >>> E [07/Feb/2007:17:47:08 +0000] PID 21758 >>> (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3! >> OK a couple of things to try: >> >> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys >> >> if that doesn't get you further forward try: >> >> $ sudo aptitude purge cupsys >> >> $ sudo aptitude install cupsys >> >> I assume the printer is connect directly to your box via usb? Once >> you've tried the above. In a browser go to: >> >> http://localhost:631 >> >> There are various options there to reconfigure the printers; you may >> need to reinstall the ptinter. If you can't get to cups via the >> browser, add yourself to the shadow group. >> >> Good luck :) >> >> Clive >> >> > ...and do not forget to follow John Graddy's advice in regard to hplip. > If your printer is supported by hplip (you can find out on the hplip > webpage) I am confident, it will work! > > Good luck from me, as well > > regards > Eberhard > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzRduSk8WqQy7AdYRAlJhAJ966tCOPSOXpnIyOa2n7DM1h/DmYACgh1bi nOObPptjcqWXKjKjW7yhDTA= =VH4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 00:54:12 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:54:12 -0500 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 In-Reply-To: <865773ce0702091640l2ec3a410u4b3dab9ef6b4013f@mail.gmail.com> References: <865773ce0702091640l2ec3a410u4b3dab9ef6b4013f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CD17B4.1040908@gatech.edu> Guillermo Garron wrote: > hi, > > I got this error while upgrading > > The following packages have been kept back: > linux-image-686 > > I am running ubuntu dapper, > this is my /etc/apt/sources.lst > > -------- > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > --------- > > Any clues? any other with this problem? Yes, it's being fixed. Just be patient. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's just selective about who its friends are." > (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) > http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux > http://www.go2linux.org > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- If you reply to a message I posted in a mailing list thread, There's a chance I may not see your response. Feel free to address me directly in the 'To:', in addition to posting to the list. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 00:57:51 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:57:51 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CD188F.9080502@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Matthew Flaschen a écrit : >> John Dangler wrote: >>> A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java >>> JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd >>> (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). >> You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU >> Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. > > Sun Java is now (by novenber 2006) under an GPL compatible license. So I > 'll suggest people to use it cause I guess no one knows more than Sun > how the Java JVM should run. So John you can safely use Sun Java. That's not exactly right. They're planning to release everything under the GPL, but only the compiler and VM have been released so far. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is part of Edgy. > > Because Feisty is in development and cannot reasonably be expected to > have all the features of a stable release? > >> Is there any workaround to get the application? > > Try to go here [1], download the *.deb files and try to install by > doubleclicking. > > Alternatively, try apt pinning [2] > > [1] > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=acroread > > [2] > http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html > http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning > > OK. Thanks a lot, Ray From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 01:25:03 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:25:03 -0500 Subject: How to boot ubuntu in console mode (no X) at startup In-Reply-To: <45CD1BFA.3040505@verizon.net> References: <45CD1BFA.3040505@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45CD1EEF.3060902@gatech.edu> rich coco wrote: > can anyoe explain to me how this can be accomplished? Are you using GRUB? If so, try editing the Ubuntu string (by pressing e, I think) and adding the argument single to the end. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 03:34:48 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:34:48 +0800 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> Message-ID: On 2/10/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Patrick Newberry wrote: > > http://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter_archives.php?id=40 > > > > > > Any thoughts on this partnership? Click and run (CNR) in ubuntu? > > Not a fan. Just makes it easier for proprietary software to creep into > an OS that is supposed (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy) to be > libre. I'm looking into Gnewsense (http://www.gnewsense.org/), a > seriously libre version of Ubuntu, again. > > Matthew Flaschen Unfortunately not all users care if the drivers and software their using is proprietary or not, an average user will likely to use what's in there, and isn't interested that much about it's existence. They probably care more about it's user experience and to get their jobs done. -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 03:42:52 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:42:52 +0800 Subject: One old problem (DivX), one new problem (synaptics) Message-ID: <1171078972.5625.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm still trying to get DivX videos to work with xine, mplayer, et al. They work fine with VLC, but I really don't like the VLC player. What's the trick to get them working with xine, totem-xine, mplayer, etc.? To recap: * I have downloaded and installed every codec I could find both on and off the Ubuntu repositories. * One of those is the DivX 6 codec. (The files are DivX 5-encoded.) * Before I installed the DivX 6 codec, totem and xine would complain that they didn't know how to play DivX 5 format. * After I installed the DivX 6 codec, totem and xine promptly changed their complaint to not knowing how to play Xvid format. (WTF? These are exactly the same files!) * All of these files worked just fine with all video players under Dapper. So what's the next step in getting these to work? The new problem: I had qsynaptics running under Dapper with no problem after monkeying around with settings in xorg.conf. What I specifically needed it for was to turn off the touchpad while I'm typing because it's really annoying having the mouse move because my thumb accidentally drifted over the touchpad. Of course with Edgy things changed and my touchpad went back to its obnoxious old behaviour. I downloaded gsynaptics and qsynaptics both and, naturally, got told that it wouldn't work because "SHMConfig" wasn't set to true in xorg.conf. So I copied the relevant lines from my old xorg.conf file -- which include prominent "SHMConfig=true" lines -- and restarted. It still complains that SHMConfig=true isn't set. Apparently something has changes synaptics-wise from Dapper to Edgy. What's the new magic incantation to get touchpads working and adjustable? A scan of Google gives all sorts of advice dating as far back as Hoary, but nothing for Edgy that I can see. (To be fair I only went about three pages deep on the hits.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just makes it easier for proprietary software to creep into >> an OS that is supposed (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy) to be >> libre. I'm looking into Gnewsense (http://www.gnewsense.org/), a >> seriously libre version of Ubuntu, again. >> >> Matthew Flaschen > > > Unfortunately not all users care if the drivers and software their using is > proprietary or not, > an average user will likely to use what's in there, and isn't interested > that much about it's existence. They probably care more about it's user > experience and to get their jobs done. I know that, but I have a different perspective. :) I know most users don't think about the difference between libre and proprietary, and to me that's one more reason those who do should be a counter-example. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[1]http://secunia.com/search/?search=java From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 04:07:45 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:07:45 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CD4511.7070809@gatech.edu> NoOp wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> John Dangler wrote: >>> A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java >>> JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd >>> (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). >> You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU >> Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. > > I'm curious... 1) just how does java-gcj-compat-dev replace Sun Java > JRE, Using GNU Classpath and GNU Compiler for Java. :) It should be fully compatible for most purposes. I'm in a Java class right now, and haven't had any significant problems (just be careful to use -1.5 when calling javac). Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Classpath http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/ for some general info. 2) how secure is java-gcj-compat-dev given the recent security > issues with Sun Java[1]? > > [1]http://secunia.com/search/?search=java I'd imagine the security is about the same, but I don't know for sure. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 10 04:27:57 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:27:57 -0500 Subject: dapper updates In-Reply-To: <1171059487.1942.8.camel@localhost> References: <1171053835.1942.4.camel@localhost> <20070209160509.4304e6a1.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <1171059487.1942.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070209232757.5402e5cf@chisel> John Dangler wrote: > > Strange you're still getting that -- the Canadian mirror has been > > updated already and I have the new (Dapper) kernel and some other > > Gnome language stuff (c). > Nope... 3 hours later, and it still does the same thing on apt-get > update... I guess the U.S. servers are the last ones to get updated... > Maybe by tomorrow they'll be fixed. Those "U.S. servers" should be the very first to get updated, considering the fact they're in Canonical's home country. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Bloss wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > >>> Strange you're still getting that -- the Canadian mirror has been >>> updated already and I have the new (Dapper) kernel and some other >>> Gnome language stuff (c). >> Nope... 3 hours later, and it still does the same thing on apt-get >> update... I guess the U.S. servers are the last ones to get updated... >> Maybe by tomorrow they'll be fixed. > > Those "U.S. servers" should be the very first to get updated, > considering the fact they're in Canonical's home country. ;) Not really. To the extent that Canonical has a home country, it's the Isle of Man. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Click and run (CNR) in ubuntu? > >> > >> Not a fan. Just makes it easier for proprietary software to creep into > >> an OS that is supposed (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy) to be > >> libre. I'm looking into Gnewsense (http://www.gnewsense.org/), a > >> seriously libre version of Ubuntu, again. > >> > >> Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > Unfortunately not all users care if the drivers and software their using > is > > proprietary or not, > > an average user will likely to use what's in there, and isn't interested > > that much about it's existence. They probably care more about it's user > > experience and to get their jobs done. > > I know that, but I have a different perspective. :) I know most users > don't think about the difference between libre and proprietary, and to > me that's one more reason those who do should be a counter-example. > > Matthew Flaschen I think it's the price Ubuntu has to pay for being a mainstream OS. People would be needing a lot of applications to suite their needs, and if Open Source isn't yet feasible for these kinds of applications, there's no other choice but to turn to proprietary software or drivers. Or wait for the open source version. But realistically that is not the case. If the proprietary software exists and suite their needs, then what else will they use if the Open Source version isn't there to satisfy their requirements? It's reality, and sometimes, it's not really all good picture. -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 10 05:06:07 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:06:07 -0500 Subject: dapper updates In-Reply-To: <45CD4A8D.1080204@gatech.edu> References: <1171053835.1942.4.camel@localhost> <20070209160509.4304e6a1.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <1171059487.1942.8.camel@localhost> <20070209232757.5402e5cf@chisel> <45CD4A8D.1080204@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070210000607.32aa8aa2@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > John Dangler wrote: > > > >>> Strange you're still getting that -- the Canadian mirror has > >>> been updated already and I have the new (Dapper) kernel and some > >>> other Gnome language stuff (c). > >> Nope... 3 hours later, and it still does the same thing on apt-get > >> update... I guess the U.S. servers are the last ones to get > >> updated... Maybe by tomorrow they'll be fixed. > > > > Those "U.S. servers" should be the very first to get updated, > > considering the fact they're in Canonical's home country. ;) > > Not really. To the extent that Canonical has a home country, it's the > Isle of Man. Indeed. Which is why those "U.S. servers", being actually located in GB, are residents of that same jurisdiction. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yaocharlesc at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 06:18:46 2007 From: yaocharlesc at gmail.com (Charles Yao) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:18:46 +0800 Subject: Wifi Devices Message-ID: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting up our Dapper units to work with wifi. 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URL: From admin2 at enabled.com Sat Feb 10 06:36:09 2007 From: admin2 at enabled.com (Noah) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:36:09 -0800 Subject: extension compiled in and still Cannot load mysql extension Message-ID: <45CD67D9.4040409@enabled.com> so I am running FreeBSD 6.2 and installing phpMyAdmin for the first time. even after recompiling php5 with the mysql extension phpMyAdmin still complains "Cannot load mysql extension" what else can I try? here are the server stats: ns1# pkg_info | grep php php5-5.2.1 PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI) php5-mysql-5.2.1 The mysql shared extension for php phpMyAdmin-2.9.2 A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web ns1# pkg_info | grep mysql mysql-client-5.0.33 Multithreaded SQL database (client) mysql-server-5.0.33 Multithreaded SQL database (server) p5-DBD-mysql-4.001 MySQL driver for the Perl5 Database Interface (DBI) php5-mysql-5.2.1 The mysql shared extension for php ns1# grep mysql /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini extension=mysql.so ns1# pkg_info | grep apache apache-2.2.4 Version 2.2 of Apache web server with prefork MPM. and here is my apache httpd.conf ---s nip ---- # # This is the main Apache HTTP server configuration file. It contains the # configuration directives that give the server its instructions. # See for detailed information. # In particular, see # # for a discussion of each configuration directive. # # Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding # what they do. They're here only as hints or reminders. If you are unsure # consult the online docs. You have been warned. # # Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many # of the server's control files begin with "/" (or "drive:/" for Win32), the # server will use that explicit path. If the filenames do *not* begin # with "/", the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so "logs/foo.log" # with ServerRoot set to "/usr/local/apache2" will be interpreted by the # server as "/usr/local/apache2/logs/foo.log". # # ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's # configuration, error, and log files are kept. # # Do not add a slash at the end of the directory path. If you point # ServerRoot at a non-local disk, be sure to point the LockFile directive # at a local disk. If you wish to share the same ServerRoot for multiple # httpd daemons, you will need to change at least LockFile and PidFile. # ServerRoot "/usr/local/apache2" # # Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or # ports, instead of the default. See also the # directive. # # Change this to Listen on specific IP addresses as shown below to # prevent Apache from glomming onto all bound IP addresses. # #Listen 12.34.56.78:80 Listen www.slops.globs.com:80 # # Dynamic Shared Object (DSO) Support # # To be able to use the functionality of a module which was built as a DSO you # have to place corresponding `LoadModule' lines at this location so the # directives contained in it are actually available _before_ they are used. # Statically compiled modules (those listed by `httpd -l') do not need # to be loaded here. # # Example: # LoadModule foo_module modules/mod_foo.so LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so #LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so #LoadModule authz_svn_module modules/mod_authz_svn.so # # # If you wish httpd to run as a different user or group, you must run # httpd as root initially and it will switch. # # User/Group: The name (or #number) of the user/group to run httpd as. # It is usually good practice to create a dedicated user and group for # running httpd, as with most system services. # User www Group www # 'Main' server configuration # # The directives in this section set up the values used by the 'main' # server, which responds to any requests that aren't handled by a # definition. These values also provide defaults for # any containers you may define later in the file. # # All of these directives may appear inside containers, # in which case these default settings will be overridden for the # virtual host being defined. # # # ServerAdmin: Your address, where problems with the server should be # e-mailed. This address appears on some server-generated pages, such # as error documents. e.g. admin at your-domain.com # ServerAdmin pro-swatch at globs.com # # ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify itself. # This can often be determined automatically, but we recommend you specify # it explicitly to prevent problems during startup. # # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here. # ServerName www.slops.globs.com:80 # # DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your # documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but # symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations. # DocumentRoot "/usr/local/apache2/htdocs" # # Each directory to which Apache has access can be configured with respect # to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled in that # directory (and its subdirectories). # # First, we configure the "default" to be a very restrictive set of # features. # # Options FollowSymLinks # AllowOverride None # Order deny,allow # # Deny from all Options Includes FollowSymLinks Indexes ExecCGI AllowOverride All # AllowOverride None # Order deny,allow # Deny from all Order allow,deny Allow from all php_flag engine on AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps AllowOverride All Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews Includes Order deny,allow Allow from all ServerName www.slops.globs.com Alias /rt3 /usr/local/rt3/share/html Alias /myadmin /usr/local/apache2/phpMyAdmin AddDefaultCharset UTF-8 AddType application/x-httpd-php .php # this line applies to Apache2+mod_perl2 only # Below line might be incorrect, I had to use: # PerlModule Apache2::compat # mod_perl 2.0.1 from FC4 Linux PerlModule Apache2 Apache::compat PerlModule Apache::DBI PerlRequire /usr/local/rt3/bin/webmux.pl SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler RT::Mason # # Note that from this point forward you must specifically allow # particular features to be enabled - so if something's not working as # you might expect, make sure that you have specifically enabled it # below. # # # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. # # # Possible values for the Options directive are "None", "All", # or any combination of: # Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks SymLinksifOwnerMatch ExecCGI MultiViews # # Note that "MultiViews" must be named *explicitly* --- "Options All" # doesn't give it to you. # # The Options directive is both complicated and important. Please see # http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#options # for more information. # Options Indexes FollowSymLinks # # AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in .htaccess files. # It can be "All", "None", or any combination of the keywords: # Options FileInfo AuthConfig Limit # AllowOverride None # # Controls who can get stuff from this server. # Order allow,deny Allow from all # # DirectoryIndex: sets the file that Apache will serve if a directory # is requested. # DirectoryIndex index.html index.php # # The following lines prevent .htaccess and .htpasswd files from being # viewed by Web clients. # Order allow,deny Deny from all Satisfy All # # ErrorLog: The location of the error log file. # If you do not specify an ErrorLog directive within a # container, error messages relating to that virtual host will be # logged here. If you *do* define an error logfile for a # container, that host's errors will be logged there and not here. # ErrorLog logs/error_log # # LogLevel: Control the number of messages logged to the error_log. # Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit, # alert, emerg. # LogLevel warn # # The following directives define some format nicknames for use with # a CustomLog directive (see below). # LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common # You need to enable mod_logio.c to use %I and %O LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %I %O" combinedio # # The location and format of the access logfile (Common Logfile Format). # If you do not define any access logfiles within a # container, they will be logged here. Contrariwise, if you *do* # define per- access logfiles, transactions will be # logged therein and *not* in this file. # CustomLog logs/access_log common # # If you prefer a logfile with access, agent, and referer information # (Combined Logfile Format) you can use the following directive. # #CustomLog logs/access_log combined # # Redirect: Allows you to tell clients about documents that used to # exist in your server's namespace, but do not anymore. The client # will make a new request for the document at its new location. # Example: # Redirect permanent /foo http://www.example.com/bar # # Alias: Maps web paths into filesystem paths and is used to # access content that does not live under the DocumentRoot. # Example: # Alias /webpath /full/filesystem/path # # If you include a trailing / on /webpath then the server will # require it to be present in the URL. You will also likely # need to provide a section to allow access to # the filesystem path. # # ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts. # ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that # documents in the target directory are treated as applications and # run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to the # client. The same rules about trailing "/" apply to ScriptAlias # directives as to Alias. # ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/" # # ScriptSock: On threaded servers, designate the path to the UNIX # socket used to communicate with the CGI daemon of mod_cgid. # #Scriptsock logs/cgisock # # "/usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased # CGI directory exists, if you have that configured. # AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Allow from all # # DefaultType: the default MIME type the server will use for a document # if it cannot otherwise determine one, such as from filename extensions. # If your server contains mostly text or HTML documents, "text/plain" is # a good value. If most of your content is binary, such as applications # or images, you may want to use "application/octet-stream" instead to # keep browsers from trying to display binary files as though they are # text. # DefaultType text/plain # # TypesConfig points to the file containing the list of mappings from # filename extension to MIME-type. # TypesConfig conf/mime.types # # AddType allows you to add to or override the MIME configuration # file specified in TypesConfig for specific file types. # #AddType application/x-gzip .tgz # # AddEncoding allows you to have certain browsers uncompress # information on the fly. Note: Not all browsers support this. # #AddEncoding x-compress .Z #AddEncoding x-gzip .gz .tgz # # If the AddEncoding directives above are commented-out, then you # probably should define those extensions to indicate media types: # AddType application/x-compress .Z AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz # PHP AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml # # AddHandler allows you to map certain file extensions to "handlers": # actions unrelated to filetype. These can be either built into the server # or added with the Action directive (see below) # # To use CGI scripts outside of ScriptAliased directories: # (You will also need to add "ExecCGI" to the "Options" directive.) # #AddHandler cgi-script .cgi # For type maps (negotiated resources): #AddHandler type-map var # # Filters allow you to process content before it is sent to the client. # # To parse .shtml files for server-side includes (SSI): # (You will also need to add "Includes" to the "Options" directive.) # #AddType text/html .shtml #AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml # # The mod_mime_magic module allows the server to use various hints from the # contents of the file itself to determine its type. The MIMEMagicFile # directive tells the module where the hint definitions are located. # #MIMEMagicFile conf/magic # # Customizable error responses come in three flavors: # 1) plain text 2) local redirects 3) external redirects # # Some examples: #ErrorDocument 500 "The server made a boo boo." #ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html #ErrorDocument 404 "/cgi-bin/missing_handler.pl" #ErrorDocument 402 http://www.example.com/subscription_info.html # # # EnableMMAP and EnableSendfile: On systems that support it, # memory-mapping or the sendfile syscall is used to deliver # files. This usually improves server performance, but must # be turned off when serving from networked-mounted # filesystems or if support for these functions is otherwise # broken on your system. # #EnableMMAP off #EnableSendfile off # Supplemental configuration # # The configuration files in the conf/extra/ directory can be # included to add extra features or to modify the default configuration of # the server, or you may simply copy their contents here and change as # necessary. # Server-pool management (MPM specific) #Include conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf # Multi-language error messages #Include conf/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf # Fancy directory listings #Include conf/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf # Language settings #Include conf/extra/httpd-languages.conf # User home directories Include conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf # Real-time info on requests and configuration #Include conf/extra/httpd-info.conf # Virtual hosts #Include conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf # Local access to the Apache HTTP Server Manual #Include conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf # Distributed authoring and versioning (WebDAV) #Include conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf # Various default settings #Include conf/extra/httpd-default.conf # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections #Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf # # Note: The following must must be present to support # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random equivalent # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl. # SSLRandomSeed startup builtin SSLRandomSeed connect builtin --- snip --- From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 06:38:26 2007 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:38:26 -0400 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 In-Reply-To: <45CD17B4.1040908@gatech.edu> References: <865773ce0702091640l2ec3a410u4b3dab9ef6b4013f@mail.gmail.com> <45CD17B4.1040908@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <865773ce0702092238i14e37dcbm3f42c93864967fad@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Guillermo Garron wrote: > > hi, > > > > I got this error while upgrading > > > > The following packages have been kept back: > > linux-image-686 > > > > I am running ubuntu dapper, > > this is my /etc/apt/sources.lst > > > > -------- > > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > > > > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > > > > deb http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > > deb-src http://bo.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > > --------- > > > > Any clues? any other with this problem? > > Yes, it's being fixed. Just be patient. Thank you very much, I am patient, now I know it will be fixed I am happy. thanks againg. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sat Feb 10 07:03:06 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:03:06 +1100 Subject: extension compiled in and still Cannot load mysql extension In-Reply-To: <45CD67D9.4040409@enabled.com> References: <45CD67D9.4040409@enabled.com> Message-ID: <20070210180306.5e169e79.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:36:09 -0800 Noah wrote: > so I am running FreeBSD 6.2 [ snips] I assume you sent this to ubuntu-users by mistake, then :) From luca76 at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 07:53:44 2007 From: luca76 at gmail.com (Luca Manganelli) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:53:44 +0100 Subject: GDM Login: avatars for users? Message-ID: Hi, where can I set avatars for users at GDM Login window? I have the "Tux G3" theme that shows a list of users with the same avatar. -- "Work only as many hours as you can be productive and only as many hours as you can sustain." - Kent Beck, in "Extreme Programming Explained" http://www.trapanator.com/blog From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sat Feb 10 08:16:00 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:16:00 +0100 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702100816.l1A8G1vW013062@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Hi all, To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting up our Dapper units to work with wifi. Trevor says:- If you want wireless Ethernet I use Belkin. I have a Toshiba laptop, an Emachine laptop and 1 desktop all working well. HTH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Sat Feb 10 09:11:17 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:11:17 +0000 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 In-Reply-To: <865773ce0702092238i14e37dcbm3f42c93864967fad@mail.gmail.com> References: <865773ce0702091640l2ec3a410u4b3dab9ef6b4013f@mail.gmail.com> <45CD17B4.1040908@gatech.edu> <865773ce0702092238i14e37dcbm3f42c93864967fad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CD8C35.5050102@googlemail.com> Guillermo Garron wrote: > On 2/9/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Guillermo Garron wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> I got this error while upgrading >>> >>> The following packages have been kept back: >>> linux-image-686 >>> >>> I am running ubuntu dapper, >>> >>> Any clues? any other with this problem? >> Yes, it's being fixed. Just be patient. > Thank you very much, I am patient, now I know it will be fixed I am happy. > > thanks againg. > I've updated a dapper and edgy system and both are working OK. It looks like some mirrors around the world a bit slower then others at synchronising. Amusingly I've just received the original security notice dated 2007-02-09 18:27 at 2007-02-10 09:02. SteVe From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Feb 10 09:09:17 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:09:17 +0100 Subject: SOLVED : update problem In-Reply-To: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702082001.35002.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: Paul Kaplan wrote the following on 09.02.2007 02:01: > In today's update, there are two packages that list as upgradable; > linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic. Yet when I try to select > either or both of these for upgrading the system tells me the upgrade will > break something. Any idea what? Is there a missing upgrade? > Paul Info from Martin Pitt, the problem has been bypassed with pushing the new packages. And i think a long term solution will be worked also out. from the earlier mentioned bugreport: <-------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, demoted to High priority, since we have *cowboyed* the required uploads into security. Nonetheless, we have to fix the code before this issues shows up again (100 % sure it will happen again in the next kernel security upload, so we need to be fast) --------------------------------------------------------------> bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 09:17:09 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:17:09 -0600 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CD8D95.2060804@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charles Yao wrote: > Hi all, > > To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a > dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting up > our > Dapper units to work with wifi. I have a PC-card in the machine I drive to work; it was one of the Walmart cheapies, and it works very well. It's very, very cold outside, or I'd dig up the brand name. It uses the Atheros chipset, and was only like $40 or so. I just wish it had an ex tenable antenna; without it the entire PC has to be raised up to get a signal out the windows. :) I've used the Linksys products for APs; it was nice, but the Belkin "Wireless G" is a good little unit, too. Setting it up is probably a LOT easier from Windows, but I don't have that here, so I had to fiddle with it. The unit has good, high speed, is very reliable, and can operate in the classic router/firewall mode, or an access point mode, where it puts mobile units on the local net. I hear that Orinoco is good, but I've not tried it. AirSnort (for packet analysis) has a special driver for it. Oh- and use NetworkManager; it's a handy way to hook up. Let us know what you got, and how ya like it, aye? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzY2V6PLtRzZbdhYRAihpAJ9WGpDBsZxtuuU67CWLcmRd8M75lwCeJVZq pHzzC2VYUQB01/UNGHIqtrU= =w70M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lsof at nodata.co.uk Sat Feb 10 09:18:03 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:18:03 +0100 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171099083.3161.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Samstag, den 10.02.2007, 11:34 +0800 schrieb Joel Bryan Juliano: > On 2/10/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Patrick Newberry wrote: > > http://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter_archives.php?id=40 > > > > > > Any thoughts on this partnership? Click and run (CNR) in > ubuntu? > > Not a fan. Just makes it easier for proprietary software to > creep into > an OS that is supposed > (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy) to be > libre. I'm looking into Gnewsense > ( http://www.gnewsense.org/), a > seriously libre version of Ubuntu, again. > > Matthew Flaschen > > Unfortunately not all users care if the drivers and software their > using is proprietary or not, > an average user will likely to use what's in there, and isn't > interested that much about it's existence. They probably care more > about it's user experience and to get their jobs done. It would be good to have a graph of the proprietary package growth in Ubuntu. Maybe we could extrapolate what will happen. From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 09:19:27 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:19:27 -0600 Subject: GDM Login: avatars for users? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CD8E1F.4020400@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luca Manganelli wrote: > Hi, where can I set avatars for users at GDM Login window? > > I have the "Tux G3" theme that shows a list of users with the same avatar. Let's see...seems like it's a matter of which theme you use; the one with the faces will let your users put pictures (of them, or anything else) on the GDM login screen. One of the defaults has this; mess with gdmconfig just a bit and you'll see it. As to the actual avatars, I don't know; around here we use faces. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzY4e6PLtRzZbdhYRApsqAJwO8N63AU01Kdi22Mbn4ECxtWxkjQCfS5Z4 is3LnKO6vhUA8w23GhdDo2U= =Syv/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 09:21:01 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:21:01 -0600 Subject: Stupid questions I need answered In-Reply-To: <45CCFEAB.3020001@gatech.edu> References: <45CA89E0.1030708@fahrlander.net> <45CCC209.7000301@gatech.edu> <45CCED4D.7060008@fahrlander.net> <45CCFEAB.3020001@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CD8E7D.3060209@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> Here's the example. I'm on Slashdot.org. At the bottom is has >> "RSS" though not in the nice little orange box that I remember. That >> link is: >> >> http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot >> >> I drag it to the toolbar (where the other one is, but I can't >> remember how it got there) and it gives me a single URL, not a button >> with all the headlines in it. > > When I go that URL in Firefox 2, I see the standard message, "Subscribe > to this feed using Live Bookmarks". I suggest you try going to the URL > and doing that. Ah; I'm still on 1.5, not 2.0 of Firefox. That might explain it, too. There's a lot of nifty features with 2.0... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzY596PLtRzZbdhYRAhhKAJ4kgHTbxiXCQ1KbXyRJaXAwhnL9EACfTJOP 6xwubQZ5HwOXb1RjAoeMOBA= =BYh5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 09:22:10 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:22:10 -0600 Subject: GDM Login: avatars for users? In-Reply-To: <45CD8E1F.4020400@fahrlander.net> References: <45CD8E1F.4020400@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45CD8EC2.6000505@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Luca Manganelli wrote: >>> Hi, where can I set avatars for users at GDM Login window? >>> >>> I have the "Tux G3" theme that shows a list of users with the same avatar. > > Let's see...seems like it's a matter of which theme you use; the one > with the faces will let your users put pictures (of them, or anything > else) on the GDM login screen. One of the defaults has this; mess with > gdmconfig just a bit and you'll see it. > > As to the actual avatars, I don't know; around here we use faces. Whoops...sorry; ADD. The faces (or whatever) go in the same place the passwords are set. It's System->Preferences->About Me. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzY7C6PLtRzZbdhYRAkbsAJ9KtUf3juRR7A4ABwNflG91UJVMngCeOW3U UZ/doLJ8OdVBeZUFLnIHwhE= =QkAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Sat Feb 10 09:47:08 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:47:08 +0000 Subject: turning off screensaver Message-ID: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Is there a way to switch off the screensaver from command line. Screensaver in Feisty keeps crashing x under gnome and just opening the screensaver controller gui also does the same. Cheers John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzZSbSk8WqQy7AdYRAumwAJ4pRZ/IQCtraT9CcdTg/uvxh8Kc7wCeMQmq GWmveCvupRZdy6zD72y9Iyg= =eJas -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dlithgow at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 10:05:06 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:05:06 +0100 Subject: feisty-alternate-i386.iso In-Reply-To: <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <1171036350.13989.1.camel@localhost> <20070209160359.GA15770@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <1171101906.13435.6.camel@localhost> Oh dear, something went wrong with the first torrent when I restarted the machine this morning. So does anyone want to join me as I try again now? It's sooo slow by myself. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-3/ Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sat Feb 10 10:10:28 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:10:28 +0100 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 In-Reply-To: <45CD8C35.5050102@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200702101010.l1AAASfk006697@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> Thanks to the team for getting it sorted. "there is no point worrying about a mess. It is getting it resolved and learning that counts". Regards From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Feb 10 10:41:34 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:41:34 +0000 Subject: Internet Connection sharing In-Reply-To: <16dd62e50702090201t34e24b3fo31abe0a3fc5bb8a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <16dd62e50702090201t34e24b3fo31abe0a3fc5bb8a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CDA15E.2000704@yandex.ru> Luis Rodrigues wrote: > Hi! > > How do i share a internet connection ? > > Case 1 - I've 2 pc's with ubuntu.Pc nº1 is connected to internet with > usb modem adsl and has a network card.Pc nº2 also has a network card. > > Case 2 - I've 2 pc's connected to a route wireless and there is no way a > can connect a 3rd pc wireless nor cable.On windows I'm able to share a > wireless network card allowing the wired network card to access > internet. How do i do this on ubuntu? > > > > thx :) > Hi Probably the easiest way by far is to use a program called Firestarter. I think it is excellent and when I first want to do internet sharing I tried this. Very simple, just follow the wizard when you first run it. You can find Firestarter through Synaptic or run the command: $ sudo aptitude install firestarter -y From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 10:51:18 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:51:18 -0600 Subject: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 In-Reply-To: <200702101010.l1AAASfk006697@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> References: <200702101010.l1AAASfk006697@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <45CDA3A6.9080101@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Trevor Nye wrote: > Thanks to the team for getting it sorted. > > "there is no point worrying about a mess. It is getting it resolved and > learning that counts". How very interesting; my Dad used to say something similar: Don't feel bad; just do better. :) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzaOm6PLtRzZbdhYRAlMLAJ9trJyjOVGe7GplhGWonGYDuahf2QCfdiq4 aPXa9qR1VmRywGAvJCpJO10= =/80u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 10 10:54:47 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:54:47 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> Message-ID: <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> inhabitant of zion wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > Is there a way to switch off the screensaver from command line. > Screensaver in Feisty keeps crashing x under gnome and just opening > the screensaver controller gui also does the same. Sounds like you have a corrupt screen saver. Try this: In a terminal window... killall gnome-screensaver That will "shut off" your screen saver. Then set it to a blank screen by editing your config file... gedit ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-screensaver/%gconf.xml Change the 'name' string to "blank-only", and delete the theme string. You should end up with something like this (please excuse the email wrapping): blank-only Make note of what the "theme" is set to because that's probably the screen saver that's causing you problems. Try setting it to something else just to be sure (you'll need to reboot or restart gnome-screensaver). -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 10:59:41 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:59:41 -0600 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> Message-ID: <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > inhabitant of zion wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi >> >> Is there a way to switch off the screensaver from command line. >> Screensaver in Feisty keeps crashing x under gnome and just opening >> the screensaver controller gui also does the same. > > Sounds like you have a corrupt screen saver. Try this: [Cool info, snipped] Aha! He has revealed himself as a screensaver guru! :) Any idea how we're supposed to set screensaver _parameters_? I can select them from the gui, but weren't the details (like paths for photos, etc) supposed to get that level of support too, or have I just not stumbled onto their hiding place? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzaWc6PLtRzZbdhYRAk0BAJoC48wZEaHjy+5IlNZFUk8aX08mOgCdEv9t rCE5rhTOVzPxkSJTDcqsuvo= =qoe4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 10 11:46:26 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:46:26 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > inhabitant of zion wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> Is there a way to switch off the screensaver from command line. > >> Screensaver in Feisty keeps crashing x under gnome and just opening > >> the screensaver controller gui also does the same. > > > > Sounds like you have a corrupt screen saver. Try this: > > [Cool info, snipped] > > Aha! He has revealed himself as a screensaver guru! :) Not really. Someone else had the same problem recently and I sort of remembered where to look. I still had to 'grep -r' a couple directories to come up with the right file. > > Any idea how we're supposed to set screensaver _parameters_? I can > select them from the gui, but weren't the details (like paths for > photos, etc) supposed to get that level of support too, or have I just > not stumbled onto their hiding place? Don't have a clue. So much for my "guru" status. ;) If you're talking about F-Spot, a quick 'find ./ -iname f-spot' in my home directory turned up this... ./.gconf/apps/f-spot ./.gnome2/f-spot I'd wager one or both of those directories or something under them holds the list of pics that screen saver would use. I'd check ~/.gconf/xxx first. Don't use F-Spot myself so my configs are useless. Could be you just have a buggered up graphic though. Maybe clearing your "favorites" (??) if F-Spot and gradually adding files back would help narrow it down??? *shrug* :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Feb 10 11:59:38 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:59:38 -0500 Subject: upgrades Message-ID: <1171108778.7487.2.camel@croatus> Well, I got past my cold feet and refreshed my desktop system to a fresh Edgy install. So, I'm on 6.10 (at least on one box)... For some reason, the only app not working so far is camorama. It recognizes the webcam, but only delivers a dark gray box on the display. I seem to recall seeing this somewhere in the list some time back, but can't find it... Anyone remember what fixed that? From scamot2004 at gmx.at Sat Feb 10 12:04:55 2007 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:04:55 +0100 Subject: StudioDV In-Reply-To: <1170539742.9890.1.camel@localhost> References: <20070201232545.45b8e6fb@localhost> <1170539742.9890.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070210130455.7e2c2cc9@localhost> Many thanks for this link, I finally got the pci card work OK. Thousand thanks for your help. thanks thanks and thanks again. That's not easy browse the ubuntu community help already released on the web seb On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:55:42 +0100 Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 23:25 +0100, sebastien wrote: > > Hi all ! > > > > Just a simple question : has anyone ever used a Pinnacle StudioDV > > PCI card ? Id like to read my DV camcorder with KINO. > > > > Ive loaded the dv1394 and ieee1394 modules, prior to check whether > > the PCI card was detected or not in my lspci devices. But finally > > it looks like it is not recognised...?! > > > > Is there any solution ? > > Have you looked here? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire > > Please let me know how the page helps you, or not. > > Duncan > From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Sat Feb 10 12:14:53 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:14:53 +0000 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> Message-ID: <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jeffrey Right firstly killall gnome-screensaver does not seem to have any effect. Its the matrix one that is set. I tried what you suggested but for some reason every time I log it the %gconf.xml gets re-written back to its original settings. I don't think its a problem with the screensaver entirely. I suspect its the flaky driver for the voodoo3. If I was not so tight fisted and more optimistic I'd be able to get a better card that has better drivers (ho ho ho!) I would. Is there anything else I can do to try and sport this out? HTH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzbc8Sk8WqQy7AdYRAiL9AJ9OmXt9EGHQKPjSPJKvMBJg/lNONQCfbD6f 7jPRJyDkzAxj9eVjNl1OXw0= =ES4+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Feb 10 12:20:55 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:20:55 -0500 Subject: wireless problem after recent security update Message-ID: <200702100720.55411.pkaplan1@comcast.net> It seems that the new version of the kernel image, 2.6.17-11, included in yesterday's update is unable to load my wireless drivers, ath_pci. Everything was fine with the prior image. Anyone else noting similar problems? Paul From cyclothunder at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 12:25:43 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (cyclothunder) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:25:43 +0000 Subject: Cpu and VGA fan speed control Message-ID: <45CDB9C7.5000602@gmail.com> hi! Is there any app that can control cpu , vga nvidia / ati, fan speed? Cant' find any :-( thx From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 12:37:49 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:37:49 +0200 Subject: [OT?] Moving to GMail In-Reply-To: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <7n9s94-u66.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <880dece00702100437m12703a8exc04437287fb43782@mail.gmail.com> On 08/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Ack!! Its user interface sucks big time. When you can't even display only > unread messages (with a button click), it doesn't have much value imo. > I does have much value, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. There a a lot of features that Gmail is still missing, like non-US date formats. That doesn't make it worthless, but it does distract from the very worthy other features. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/91/bronski_beat.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bug.html From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 10 14:59:13 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:59:13 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> Message-ID: <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> inhabitant of zion wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Jeffrey > > Right firstly killall gnome-screensaver does not seem to have any > effect. > > Its the matrix one that is set. I tried what you suggested but for > some reason every time I log it the %gconf.xml gets re-written back > to its original settings. Hmmmm... must be Gnome restarts the screen saver automagically. :( Try logging out, then at the graphical login screen hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a terminal login. Use your normal login name and password there. Do the 'killall' thing just to be sure, Then, rather than 'gedit ' use 'vi path/to/file.name'. Hit 'i' to get into the vi editor's "insert" mode, navigate with the arrows and make the changes. Hit ESC when you're done editing, then type ':wq' (without the quotes of course) and hit enter. Log out by typing 'exit' and hitting enter. Get back to your graphical login with a CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in normally. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(There are multiple dir's under /usr/share/icons) From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 17:17:35 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:17:35 -0600 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> Message-ID: <45CDFE2F.6070001@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > If you're talking about F-Spot, a quick 'find ./ -iname f-spot' in my > home directory turned up this... > > ./.gconf/apps/f-spot > ./.gnome2/f-spot > > I'd wager one or both of those directories or something under them > holds the list of pics that screen saver would use. I'd check > ~/.gconf/xxx first. Don't use F-Spot myself so my configs are useless. > Could be you just have a buggered up graphic though. Maybe clearing your > "favorites" (??) if F-Spot and gradually adding files back would > help narrow it down??? > > *shrug* :) I used to set them by running xscreensaver --(something), then exiting that program entirely. I suppose I still could. One of the minor disappointments of Linux has been that, with all the power of the screensavers, no one like AfterDark ever jumped in. I'd imagine all sorts of "ancient" or "retro" screensavers from their profitable past would be easy to port, but so far most seem to be very nerdly with theoretical, not visual components as part of the art. Lately though, ReallySlickScreensavers (other 'other' RSS) have made some nice advancements... Thanks - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzf4u6PLtRzZbdhYRAibXAJ9vLpNhGRfACYGl7rr+mHI5FNHWeQCfTdHI SzxI98WNsONeZ3ex+3u5vKY= =+BSY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Feb 10 17:45:26 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:45:26 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171129526.15292.1.camel@croatus> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 01:07 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > > John Dangler wrote: > >> A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java > >> JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd > >> (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). > > > > You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU > > Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. > > Sun Java is now (by novenber 2006) under an GPL compatible license. So I > 'll suggest people to use it cause I guess no one knows more than Sun > how the Java JVM should run. So John you can safely use Sun Java. > > >> Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the > >> system, and just restore my .evo directory? > > Yeah , it should be enough to restore all your evolution settings and mails So far, so good. I did realize that restoring the .evo folder/files doesn't bring back the email accounts setups. But, for the moment, I'm documenting my Edgy build and apt'ing packages... Hopefully, the list is getting these messages. I've sent 2 or 3 since I began (at about 2AM), but haven't seen them show up as of yet... > > From veritastic at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 18:51:09 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:51:09 -0500 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? Message-ID: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens again, but has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps crashing? Happen to anyone else? From dhull at digitaloverload.net Sat Feb 10 18:52:01 2007 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:52:01 -0900 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? Message-ID: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> I'm running an Ubuntu Dapper server. Should I reboot after an update (upgrade)? I've asked this question on IRC. I was told by one person to reboot. However, others have told me that rebooting is only required when you get a new kernel. This brings me to my next question/problem. I've seen "linux-server" in the list of packages that are going to be updated. I can't remember if my kernel ever got updated though. I have more then one server and "uname -a" says I've got kernel 2.6.15-23-server on all of them. Does the kernel ever get updated on Ubuntu server? Should I reboot just to be safe? From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Feb 10 00:13:43 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:13:43 +0100 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> (Mike Fedyk's message of "Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:06:38 -0800") References: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <87hctuvphk.fsf@spamfence.net> Mike Fedyk wrote: > Ed Smits wrote: >> However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I >> notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot >> of network traffic I can't account for. > > apt-get install nmap > nmap -np > > nmap will show you in brutal detail what is happening on your network > interface(s). nmap is a portscanner, it doesn't show traffic. Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Feb 10 00:23:36 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:23:36 +0100 Subject: Can't update In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> (OOzy Pal's message of "Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:42:48 +0300") References: <299ffe0d0702090442g36723d43mae63695f8bff3d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87abzmvp13.fsf@spamfence.net> "OOzy Pal" wrote: > I am trying to update doing > > sudo aptitute upgrade > > but I am getting the following msg > > Reading package lists... > Building dependency tree... > Reading state information... > Reading extended state information... > Initializing package states... > Building tag database... > The following packages have been automatically kept back: > linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic > The following packages have been kept back: > linux-headers-generic > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. > > I tried synaptic and adept with no help too. Most likely that's because "update" doesn't remove or install new packages but the update requires one of this actions. Use "dist-upgrade" instead of "upgrade". Florian -- From swordfish.cn at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 19:05:37 2007 From: swordfish.cn at gmail.com (swordfish.cn at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:05:37 +0800 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 94 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171134337.10955.5.camel@ubuntu.domain> > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:59:38 -0500 > From: John Dangler > Subject: upgrades > To: Ubuntu User List > Message-ID: <1171108778.7487.2.camel at croatus> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Well, I got past my cold feet and refreshed my desktop system to a fresh > Edgy install. So, I'm on 6.10 (at least on one box)... > > For some reason, the only app not working so far is camorama. It > recognizes the webcam, but only delivers a dark gray box on the display. > I seem to recall seeing this somewhere in the list some time back, but > can't find it... Anyone remember what fixed that? Well, I saw your mail and I try my CAMSTREAM in a terminal so that I can figure out what is wrong. It give out "Fail to open device" at start up and give me a gray box. When I click File->Open viewer ... it works again. It is a strange problem indeed, maybe there is something wrong with the init step. Just give another try then. Good Luck! From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat Feb 10 19:11:29 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:11:29 -0500 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <200702101411.29951.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday 10 February 2007 13:52, Damien Hull wrote: > I'm running an Ubuntu Dapper server. Should I reboot after an update > (upgrade)? > > I've asked this question on IRC. I was told by one person to reboot. > However, others have told me that rebooting is only required when you > get a new kernel. This brings me to my next question/problem. > > I've seen "linux-server" in the list of packages that are going to be > updated. I can't remember if my kernel ever got updated though. I have > more then one server and "uname -a" says I've got kernel > 2.6.15-23-server on all of them. > > Does the kernel ever get updated on Ubuntu server? > Should I reboot just to be safe? Generally speaking kernel updates are the only ones you have to reboot for. My uname -a on my Dapper box says: 2.6.15-27-server #1 SMP Fri Dec 8 18:43:54 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Yes, you need to reboot to get the new kernel. Scott K From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sat Feb 10 19:13:28 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:13:28 +0100 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <1171134808.5301.39.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 09:52 -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > Should I reboot after an update > (upgrade)? When a reboot is required, an icon is displayed in the notification area (a cycle mad of 2 blue arrows) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 19:13:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:13:14 -0500 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> <45CD039B.8020408@gatech.edu> <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> I'm running 6.10. Go to kcontrol, then search for Laptop. > > No matches. Hmm, have a look at http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~mflaschen3/kcontrol.png . Maybe we're miscommunicating. Does that help at all? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <45CD8EC2.6000505@fahrlander.net> References: <45CD8E1F.4020400@fahrlander.net> <45CD8EC2.6000505@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote the following on 10.02.2007 10:22: > The faces (or whatever) go in the same place the passwords are set. > It's System->Preferences->About Me. or ALT+F2, gdmphotosetup bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 19:19:21 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:19:21 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> Message-ID: <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Do the 'killall' thing just to be sure, Then, rather than 'gedit > ' use 'vi path/to/file.name'. Hit 'i' to get into > the vi editor's "insert" mode, navigate with the arrows and make the > changes. You'd probably find nano easier. It's simpler (more like notepad...). That's just: nano path/to/file.name Matthew -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 19:23:56 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:23:56 -0500 Subject: app icon In-Reply-To: <1171125529.7487.5.camel@croatus> References: <1171125529.7487.5.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45CE1BCC.1040003@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > I am adding a desktop entry for nvidia settings in Edgy. Since I don't > see a stock icon for this, can I just make a .png file (assuming the > same size/constraints as the other icons in /usr/share/icons)? Yeah. It can also be an svg. > If so, where do I store it? (There are multiple dir's > under /usr/share/icons) I don't think it matters. You can select the location manually (at least in KDE...). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 19:25:18 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:25:18 -0500 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <45CE1C1E.1030701@gatech.edu> Damien Hull wrote: > Does the kernel ever get updated on Ubuntu server? > Should I reboot just to be safe? I think (but am not sure) that there was a kernel update this time. However, the kernel definitely does get updated on the server, if only for security reasons. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dhull at digitaloverload.net Sat Feb 10 20:37:43 2007 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:37:43 -0900 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <1171134808.5301.39.camel@chronic> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <1171134808.5301.39.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45CE2D17.6060506@digitaloverload.net> This is Ubuntu server not desktop. Server doesn't tell you anything. It just tells you it updated stuff. Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 09:52 -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > >> Should I reboot after an update >> (upgrade)? >> > > When a reboot is required, an icon is displayed in the notification area > (a cycle mad of 2 blue arrows) > > > From dhull at digitaloverload.net Sat Feb 10 20:48:49 2007 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:48:49 -0900 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE1C1E.1030701@gatech.edu> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <45CE1C1E.1030701@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CE2FB1.3010904@digitaloverload.net> I just did an update on another server. According to /var/log/dpkg.log kernel 2.6.15.26 was installed. However, I can't find the new kernel. It's not in /boot. What's going on here? Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Damien Hull wrote: > >> Does the kernel ever get updated on Ubuntu server? >> Should I reboot just to be safe? >> > > I think (but am not sure) that there was a kernel update this time. > However, the kernel definitely does get updated on the server, if only > for security reasons. > > Matthew Flaschen > > From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 10 21:20:30 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:20:30 -0600 Subject: GDM Login: avatars for users? In-Reply-To: References: <45CD8E1F.4020400@fahrlander.net> <45CD8EC2.6000505@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45CE371E.3090604@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Six wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote the following on 10.02.2007 10:22: > > > >> The faces (or whatever) go in the same place the passwords are set. >> It's System->Preferences->About Me. > > or ALT+F2, gdmphotosetup Ooh; THAT's where they were hiding. :) Thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzjce6PLtRzZbdhYRAss5AJ99q/nb+ECdVAc0K0FXnfxNkvoaKgCfc1UV 6qRCuvjKm7HamuhbwIu5Byw= =OtsF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sepheebear at gmail.com Sat Feb 10 22:01:18 2007 From: sepheebear at gmail.com (Seth Hasani) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:18 -0500 Subject: GDM Login: avatars for users? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/10/07, Luca Manganelli wrote: > Hi, where can I set avatars for users at GDM Login window? gdm reads the user-configurable face pictures from the file ~/.face. Just rename an appropriately sized jpeg or png to ~/.face and you will see it in the face browser. > I have the "Tux G3" theme that shows a list of users with the same avatar. You are seeing the default face picture located in /usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png. You can also set faces for users globally as an administrator by putting a file named $user or $user.png in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces/ Seth -- Sex is not the original sin, guilt is. From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 10 22:59:58 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:59:58 -0800 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <45CD4511.7070809@gatech.edu> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD4511.7070809@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > NoOp wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> John Dangler wrote: >>>> A development environment consisting of Eclipse, Ruby/Rails, Sun Java >>>> JRE (I'll need SE and Beans for school), mySQL, and Apache/Lighttpd >>>> (never could get lighttpd to run a rails app). >>> You don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat-dev , which uses GNU >>> Classpath, GNU Compiler for Java, and I think some eclipse code too. >> >> I'm curious... 1) just how does java-gcj-compat-dev replace Sun Java >> JRE, > > Using GNU Classpath and GNU Compiler for Java. :) It should be fully > compatible for most purposes. I'm in a Java class right now, and > haven't had any significant problems (just be careful to use -1.5 when > calling javac). Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Classpath > http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/ for some general info. > > 2) how secure is java-gcj-compat-dev given the recent security >> issues with Sun Java[1]? >> >> [1]http://secunia.com/search/?search=java > > I'd imagine the security is about the same, but I don't know for sure. > Thanks for the info & links! I've a test machine that I'll try using only this to see if it also works for Firefox, Seamonkey, OpenOffice & other apps. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 10 23:25:27 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:25:27 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD4511.7070809@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CE5467.1000005@gatech.edu> NoOp wrote: > Thanks for the info & links! I've a test machine that I'll try using > only this to see if it also works for Firefox, Seamonkey, OpenOffice & > other apps. Among those, only OpenOffice *uses* Java per se, and I think it has been specifically modified to facilitate computability with Classpath. Firefox has a Classpath-based Java applet plugin: java-gcj-compat-plugin That's less mature, but still has worked for most purposes (in contrast to Gnash, a libre Flash plugin that is still pretty far behind). Hopefully, Sun will be prompt in releasing the rest of Java under the GPL (http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/story.jsp) as promised, and these workarounds won't be as necessary. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Feb 10 23:37:40 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:37:40 -0500 Subject: restricted modules package won't update Message-ID: <200702101837.40691.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I applied the security upgrade yesterday which adds kernel 2.6.17-11. However the restricted-modules package associated with the new kernel won't upgrade - indicating that an upgrade will break existing packages. Is this a bug, feature or oversight? How to fix? Paul From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 11 00:10:31 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:10:31 -0800 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> Message-ID: inhabitant of zion wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > Is there a way to switch off the screensaver from command line. > Screensaver in Feisty keeps crashing x under gnome and just opening the > screensaver controller gui also does the same. > > Cheers > > John I don't know about command line, but I'd recommend the configuration editor: gconf-editor 2.14.0 Do a Edit|Find|screensaver and you'll find the settings, including the gnome_settings_daemon/screensaver setting where you can untick the box for "start screensaver". sudo apt-get install gconf-editor Then look for it in Applications|System Tools|Configuration Editor From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 11 00:24:08 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:24:08 +0100 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE2D17.6060506@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <1171134808.5301.39.camel@chronic> <45CE2D17.6060506@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <1171153449.5301.44.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 11:37 -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > This is Ubuntu server not desktop. I overlooked that. Strictly speaking you only need to reboot when the kernel gets a security fix. When anything kernel-related like udev does it is probably a good idea too, or at least restart it (I know that the reboot notification comes up on the desktop inthis case) From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Feb 11 00:25:21 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:25:21 +1100 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? In-Reply-To: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> References: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20070211112521.a378482c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:51:09 -0500 Chris Rohde wrote: > Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens again, but > has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps crashing? "My email keeps crashing" doesn't give us a lot of information to help you :) It's in the same general set of statements as " Help! It doesn't work!" Perhaps if you told the list when and how the crash happens, whether you have made any personal configuration changes recently, and so on - in other words, what steps are required to produce the crash. Another helpful set of informational messages might be what output, if any, you see in a terminal when the crash occurs, by running kmail from konsole or your terminal emulator of choice . Peter From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun Feb 11 00:29:40 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:29:40 -0500 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? In-Reply-To: <20070211112521.a378482c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> <20070211112521.a378482c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <200702101929.40567.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday 10 February 2007 19:25, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:51:09 -0500 > > Chris Rohde wrote: > > Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens again, > > but has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps crashing? > > "My email keeps crashing" doesn't give us a lot of information to help > you :) It's in the same general set of statements as " Help! It doesn't > work!" > > Perhaps if you told the list when and how the crash happens, whether you > have made any personal configuration changes recently, and so on - in other > words, what steps are required to produce the crash. > > Another helpful set of informational messages might be what output, if > any, you see in a terminal when the crash occurs, by running kmail from > konsole or your terminal emulator of choice . > > Peter Additionally, the OP might want to consider: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and posting to kubuntu-users since it's a KDE application. Scott K From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 04:50:11 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:50:11 -0500 Subject: useful utilities Message-ID: <1171169411.19816.3.camel@croatus> I was reading through some pages on different utilities, and came across gparted. Are there a lot of people in the Ubuntu community using this? (I'm on Edgy at the moment, have a single hard drive (80Gb), and intend to load vmware server for a win setup (and possibly some others)... Any input (pro or con) is appreciated From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 05:10:47 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:10:47 -0500 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 94 In-Reply-To: <1171134337.10955.5.camel@ubuntu.domain> References: <1171134337.10955.5.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: <1171170647.19816.5.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 03:05 +0800, swordfish.cn at gmail.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:59:38 -0500 > > From: John Dangler > > Subject: upgrades > > To: Ubuntu User List > > Message-ID: <1171108778.7487.2.camel at croatus> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > Well, I got past my cold feet and refreshed my desktop system to a fresh > > Edgy install. So, I'm on 6.10 (at least on one box)... > > > > For some reason, the only app not working so far is camorama. It > > recognizes the webcam, but only delivers a dark gray box on the display. > > I seem to recall seeing this somewhere in the list some time back, but > > can't find it... Anyone remember what fixed that? > > Well, I saw your mail and I try my CAMSTREAM in a terminal so that I can > figure out what is wrong. > It give out "Fail to open device" at start up and give me a gray box. > When I click File->Open viewer ... it works again. > It is a strange problem indeed, maybe there is something wrong with the > init step. > Just give another try then. > Good Luck! > Same results. I get the same blank screen in both Camerama and Ekiga... Something may be up with the driver in Edgy... > From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 05:17:37 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:17:37 -0500 Subject: New Install Edgy Message-ID: <1171171057.19816.11.camel@croatus> I just got Edgy up and running on my desktop. I have a Logitech Pro 3000 webcam, which shows a grey window in both camorama and ekiga. Camorama does see the camera, and ekiga configuration even allows the audio input through the webcam, but both fail for the video. I looked at installing easycam2, but looking in their list of known cam drivers, the 3000 isn't among them, and I did read where Edgy had newer drivers than Dapper (under Dapper it never worked at all, but under Breezy, it did - go figure)... Does anyone here have any input as to what I can try (or tweak) to get this to work? O/T - I'd like to try ekiga (or wengophone), but under ekiga (unlike skype), there isn't a way to search for anyone who has it running... any clues about this? Thanks for the help From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 05:31:57 2007 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:31:57 -0400 Subject: restricted modules package won't update In-Reply-To: <200702101837.40691.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702101837.40691.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <865773ce0702102131q7b7b132p16636daa5ab730f4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/07, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I applied the security upgrade yesterday which adds kernel 2.6.17-11. However > the restricted-modules package associated with the new kernel won't upgrade - > indicating that an upgrade will break existing packages. > > Is this a bug, feature or oversight? How to fix? are you using Edgy or Dapper? I am using Dapper and the upgrade today was, 2.6.15-28-686, but I had to wait for 2 days until I got this, as i was getting the message that my Kernel was kept back and was not going to be upgraded. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org From swordfish.cn at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 05:48:10 2007 From: swordfish.cn at gmail.com (David Liu) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:48:10 +0800 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution Message-ID: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> I recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell Laptop Model 640m-n which has a 16:9 LCD. Its resolution should be 1280x800. But in my Screen resolution config in XFCE only provide me a 1024x768. I check my xorg.conf, there is only one resolution - 1280x800. Any other config file should I modify? Any reply is appreciated! From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 05:57:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:57:52 -0500 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution In-Reply-To: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: <45CEB060.8020600@gatech.edu> David Liu wrote: > I recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell Laptop Model 640m-n which has a > 16:9 LCD. Its resolution should be 1280x800. But in my Screen resolution > config in XFCE only provide me a 1024x768. I check my xorg.conf, there > is only one resolution - 1280x800. Any other config file should I > modify? I'm running Kubuntu on a Dell laptop myself, but the real question is the graphics card. I'm using an ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, and there's no libre driver for that, so I have 1024x768 too. People can probably help more if you post which graphics card you're using. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 06:17:40 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:17:40 -0500 Subject: New Install Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171171057.19816.11.camel@croatus> References: <1171171057.19816.11.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070211011740.70791f16@chisel> John Dangler wrote: > I just got Edgy up and running on my desktop. I have a Logitech Pro > 3000 webcam, which shows a grey window in both camorama and ekiga. > Camorama does see the camera, and ekiga configuration even allows the > audio input through the webcam, but both fail for the video. > > I looked at installing easycam2, but looking in their list of known > cam drivers, the 3000 isn't among them, and I did read where Edgy had > newer drivers than Dapper (under Dapper it never worked at all, but > under Breezy, it did - go figure)... > > Does anyone here have any input as to what I can try (or tweak) to get > this to work? What module(s) are you currently running? I find that the newer gspca modules are more unstable than the older spca5xx on this box, for instance. > O/T - I'd like to try ekiga (or wengophone), but under ekiga (unlike > skype), there isn't a way to search for anyone who has it running... > any clues about this? Ekiga, 2.0.3+ anyway, does have a search feature but it's limited to 100 matches. Fire it up, go to your "phone book" and enter a * in the bottom dialog. Should give you a list of 100 and a notice about "refining your search". There's a drop down that defaults to "name", but I believe you can search on "url" and "location" also. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 11 06:40:20 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:40:20 -0500 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution In-Reply-To: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: <1171176020.6763.4.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 13:48 +0800, David Liu wrote: > I recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell Laptop Model 640m-n which has a > 16:9 LCD. Its resolution should be 1280x800. But in my Screen resolution > config in XFCE only provide me a 1024x768. I check my xorg.conf, there > is only one resolution - 1280x800. Any other config file should I > modify? > > Any reply is appreciated! My guess is that you need the 915resolution program. It can be found in synaptic. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver for more details. mike > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I know it's important, but I really don't get it. -- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 07:24:25 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:24:25 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be easily forged, but signatures can't be. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 07:26:53 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:26:53 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > Do the 'killall' thing just to be sure, Then, rather than 'gedit > > ' use 'vi path/to/file.name'. Hit 'i' to get into > > the vi editor's "insert" mode, navigate with the arrows and make the > > changes. > > You'd probably find nano easier. It's simpler (more like notepad...). Nano isn't installed by default is it?? I'm sure vi is so when handing out advice, meager as it is, I'll probably stick with what I know is available rather than suggest someone install another editor just to change a couple lines of text. For the same reasons, I'll suggest gedit over gvim. It has nothing to do with what's "easy". :) Oddly enough I do have nano installed here but never use it. I find it very "pine like", but still confusing after having used vim for so long (and being a mutt/vi guy). -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please help Pushparaj On 2/8/07, Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > Hi all, > Kindly provide the coomand to mount NTFS on Ubuntu 6.10. > I tried > # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/C -t ntfs -r > > Though it didnt give any error, It says: > You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "C". > > Below is my patition list: > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2 2551 5305 22129537+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sda3 5306 9729 35535780 83 Linux > /dev/sda5 2551 5100 20482843+ b W95 FAT32 > /dev/sda6 5101 5113 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda7 5114 5305 1542208+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > > Thanks in advance > Pushparaj > From shettypraj at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 07:41:37 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:11:37 +0530 Subject: Audio problem in gxine 0.5.7 Message-ID: Hi, I am able to play vedio files in gxine 0.5.7; but no no audio: please provide instructions to solve the problem Thanks Pushparaj From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 07:55:30 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:55:30 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CDFE2F.6070001@fahrlander.net> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDFE2F.6070001@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <20070211025530.68439acc@chisel> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > > ./.gconf/apps/f-spot > > ./.gnome2/f-spot > > > > I'd wager one or both of those directories or something under them > > holds the list of pics that screen saver would use. I'd check > > ~/.gconf/xxx first. Don't use F-Spot myself so my configs are > > useless. Could be you just have a buggered up graphic though. Maybe > > clearing your "favorites" (??) if F-Spot and gradually adding files > > back would help narrow it down??? > > > > *shrug* :) > > I used to set them by running xscreensaver --(something), then > exiting that program entirely. I suppose I still could. A little exploration and judicious use of one of my favorite shell scripts turned up a 'gnome-screensaver-command' command that accepts the --exit switch as well as a couple other useful things. Try 'gnome-screensaver-command --help' for an overview. It's probably the gnome* counterpart to the xscreensaver command you're use to. There's also a gnome-screensaver-preferences command on this box. Haven't even --help(ed) it yet to see. ;) I've posted this script before I think, but I find it so useful I'll do it again. I save it as 'howmanycommands' somewhere in the global path. Alone it spits out a huge list of everything in your path and a running total, but I almost always run it through grep looking for relevant commands. The screen saver thing was 'howmanycommands | grep screen' for example. Here's the script, stolen from some book or something I have laying around here... ### BEGIN SCRIPT ### #!/bin/sh # how many commands: a simple script to count how many executable # commands are in your current PATH. myPATH="$(echo $PATH | sed -e 's/ /~~/g' -e 's/:/ /g')" count=0 ; nonex=0 for dirname in $myPATH ; do directory="$(echo $dirname | sed 's/~~/ /g')" if [ -d "$directory" ] ; then for command in $(ls "$directory") ; do if [ -x "$directory/$command" ] ; then echo $directory/$command count="$(( $count + 1 ))" else nonex="$(( $nonex + 1 ))" fi done fi done echo "$count commands : $nonex entires not executable" exit 0 ### END SCRIPT ### > One of the minor disappointments of Linux has been that, with all > the power of the screensavers, no one like AfterDark ever jumped in. I never really was into fluffy screen savers. Know After Dark by name but that's about it. For years I just ran the Seti at Home thing at whatever defaults it installed because I figured I might as well do something useful with all those extra cpu cycles, but now that I've migrated to a laptop being my "main" machine I pretty much go with the battery savings and just blank the screen by default no matter if I'm plugged or not. The "skyrocket" screen saver is pretty neat to watch for a while though. Amazing what upper end graphics hardware can do. ;) > I'd imagine all sorts of "ancient" or "retro" screensavers from their > profitable past would be easy to port, but so far most seem to be very > nerdly with theoretical, not visual components as part of the art. I remember a lady bringing in a machine to be repaired one time with a screen saver that was a bunch of smiley faces floating around. Every time they're bump into each other they'd emit a mechanical, high pitched "Uh-Oh!". Talk about annoying... Of course then there was the infamous "haunted house". *shudder* No. Give me minimalist or useful, or just turn off the display thank you. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sun Feb 11 08:01:36 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:01:36 +0100 Subject: useful utilities In-Reply-To: <1171169411.19816.3.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702110801.l1B81ZOA026310@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> I have used gparted and it is very easy to move and resize partitions. It is self explanatory. HTH From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 08:03:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:03:52 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> Message-ID: <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: >>> Do the 'killall' thing just to be sure, Then, rather than 'gedit >>> ' use 'vi path/to/file.name'. Hit 'i' to get into >>> the vi editor's "insert" mode, navigate with the arrows and make the >>> changes. >> You'd probably find nano easier. It's simpler (more like notepad...). > > Nano isn't installed by default is it?? My mistake. I thought it was. It's kind of funny that it isn't, though. > I'm sure vi is so when handing out advice, meager as it is, I'll > probably stick with what I know is available rather than suggest > someone install another editor just to change a couple lines of text. > For the same reasons, I'll suggest gedit over gvim. It has nothing to do > with what's "easy". :) Nano is easy, just not powerful. I'm learning to use emacs myself. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 08:28:31 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:28:31 -0500 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <1171129526.15292.1.camel@croatus> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> <1171129526.15292.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45CED3AF.3000002@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: >>>> Since mail is the critical piece here, can I reinstall Ubuntu on the >>>> system, and just restore my .evo directory? >> Yeah , it should be enough to restore all your evolution settings and mails > > So far, so good. I did realize that restoring the .evo folder/files > doesn't bring back the email accounts setups. It doesn't? That's not so good. But, for the moment, I'm > documenting my Edgy build and apt'ing packages... Hopefully, the list is > getting these messages. I've sent 2 or 3 since I began (at about 2AM), > but haven't seen them show up as of yet... Is that the wind I hear? ;) Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 08:30:49 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:30:49 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070211033049.7ca1b6eb@chisel> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. The purpose of a digital signature is primarily to guarantee the integrity of the signed file. To assure the person who checks the signature against the file that the original hasn't been tampered with in any way. So any place you need to guarantee file integrity you can use a gpg signature. In a public setting the benefits are obvious. All your Ubuntu software installs and system updates should be using digital signatures to verify their integrity, for example. In a private setting the usefulness isn't quite so obvious, but if you have a copy of your will or any other legal documents on your machine for example, it's a good idea to sign them. There's also time stamping services available which will stamp your signature with one of their own and make that "sub-signature" public, irrefutably proving a time line. Precautions that might prevent some shady cousin on your wife's side from cutting out your kids and writing himself in for your billions. ;) I've also used digital signatures to monitor changes in critical system files and logs. Not so much in modern times because there's simpler, easier ways to do what I use to do with signatures, but it is one potential application. In fact, if you run something like a modern version of rkhunter I believe you have the option of using some of the very same hashing schemes gpg uses in its digital signatures to verify the integrity of the files it keeps track of. Most of your /sbin directory for example. And there use to be a very excellent piece of antivirus software floating around called "Integrity Master" which used (proprietary?) cryptographic signatures to verify executables on DOS boxes. So the usefulness of "local" signatures isn't as broad and visible as the more common signed message or software update application, but it still exists for a lot of people. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess the question is, is Ubuntu's goal, "A majority of the PC's for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu" (as Bug 1 [https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1] says), or simple dominance? People > would be > needing a lot of applications to suite their needs, and if Open Source > isn't > yet feasible for > these kinds of applications, there's no other choice but to turn to > proprietary software or drivers. > Or wait for the open source version. Or contribute to the creation of free replacements, and realize that most likely these needs are actually just wishes. > It's reality, and sometimes, it's not really all good picture. I suppose, but I might choose to get out of this picture if the trend continues. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To find these values, type the command (NOT as root): id In my case, I get something beginning with: uid=1000(matthew) gid=1000(matthew) You should use the numbers you get. Then restart and the partition should mount automatically and give you access. sudo mount /mnt/CWindow Let me know what happens. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That >>> link is: >>> >>> http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot >>> >>> I drag it to the toolbar (where the other one is, but I can't >>> remember how it got there) and it gives me a single URL, not a button >>> with all the headlines in it. >> When I go that URL in Firefox 2, I see the standard message, "Subscribe >> to this feed using Live Bookmarks". I suggest you try going to the URL >> and doing that. > > Ah; I'm still on 1.5, not 2.0 of Firefox. That might explain it, > too. There's a lot of nifty features with 2.0... Then I suggest you upgrade to Firefox 2. :) Edgy uses it by default, but you can also upgrade manually. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:52:39 -0500 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > >> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > >>> Do the 'killall' thing just to be sure, Then, rather than 'gedit > >>> ' use 'vi path/to/file.name'. Hit 'i' to get > >>> into the vi editor's "insert" mode, navigate with the arrows and > >>> make the changes. > >> You'd probably find nano easier. It's simpler (more like > >> notepad...). > > > > Nano isn't installed by default is it?? > > My mistake. I thought it was. It's kind of funny that it isn't, > though. Vi is pretty much universal across distributions so it makes sense to install it. But like you say it's more "involved" than some other choices and probably confusing for converts. I *think* pico is part of the standard install though, which is what nano was modeled after. Might be a better choice in some situations. Not sure about that though, it may be the pico is just a symlink that's installed with the nano package...?? > > > I'm sure vi is so when handing out advice, meager as it is, I'll > > probably stick with what I know is available rather than suggest > > someone install another editor just to change a couple lines of > > text. For the same reasons, I'll suggest gedit over gvim. It has > > nothing to do with what's "easy". :) > > Nano is easy, just not powerful. I'm learning to use emacs myself. I've mucked around with emacs and xemacs a bit but never really "learned" them. I can get around and do the basics. That's about it. That's just a matter of pure fate though. I cut my *nix teeth on vi only by coincidence. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Actually, though, it looks like vim isn't installed either, judging by http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/metapackages/ubuntu-desktop > Might be a better choice in some situations. Not sure about that > though, it may be the pico is just a symlink that's installed with the > nano package...?? Right. Pico isn't included in Ubuntu, since it's unfree. >> Nano is easy, just not powerful. I'm learning to use emacs myself. > > I've mucked around with emacs and xemacs a bit but never really > "learned" them. I can get around and do the basics. That's about it. > That's just a matter of pure fate though. I cut my *nix teeth on vi > only by coincidence. I think that's how it is for everyone. :) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 09:15:02 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:15:02 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed >> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension >> that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the >> file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or >> directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. > > There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. > If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you > sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be > easily forged, but signatures can't be. Verifying the signature also confirms that the file has not been modified since you signed it but some malicious person. So it acts a bit like an MD5 checksum with the added benefit that you can check who signed it. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 09:15:40 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:15:40 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 02:24 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > > Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > > that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > > file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > > directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. > > There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. > If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you > sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be > easily forged, but signatures can't be. As in - gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) gpg: armor header: Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org gpg: Signature made Sun 11 Feb 2007 02:24:30 AM EST using DSA key ID 3BBDED59 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found (this is what I see on your signature of your emails to the list)... > > Matthew Flaschen > From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 09:20:09 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:20:09 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:15 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > >> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > >> that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > >> file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > >> directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. > > > > There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. > > If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you > > sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be > > easily forged, but signatures can't be. > > Verifying the signature also confirms that the file has not been > modified since you signed it but some malicious person. So it acts a bit > like an MD5 checksum with the added benefit that you can check who > signed it. > > Regards, > Tony. So, how can I get a valid signature that I can put in my evolution emails? > -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 09:21:36 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:21:36 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> John Dangler wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 02:24 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed >>> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension >>> that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the >>> file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or >>> directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. >> There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. >> If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you >> sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be >> easily forged, but signatures can't be. > > As in - gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > gpg: armor header: Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > gpg: Signature made Sun 11 Feb 2007 02:24:30 AM EST using DSA key ID > 3BBDED59 > gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found > > (this is what I see on your signature of your emails to the list)... You need to import his public key from a key server somewhere and add it to your keyring. The question then is how much do you trust this key that you believe belongs to a certain person? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 09:27:22 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:27:22 -0500 Subject: New Install Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070211011740.70791f16@chisel> References: <1171171057.19816.11.camel@croatus> <20070211011740.70791f16@chisel> Message-ID: <1171186042.19816.22.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 01:17 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > I just got Edgy up and running on my desktop. I have a Logitech Pro > > 3000 webcam, which shows a grey window in both camorama and ekiga. > > Camorama does see the camera, and ekiga configuration even allows the > > audio input through the webcam, but both fail for the video. > > > > I looked at installing easycam2, but looking in their list of known > > cam drivers, the 3000 isn't among them, and I did read where Edgy had > > newer drivers than Dapper (under Dapper it never worked at all, but > > under Breezy, it did - go figure)... > > > > Does anyone here have any input as to what I can try (or tweak) to get > > this to work? > > What module(s) are you currently running? I find that the newer gspca > modules are more unstable than the older spca5xx on this box, for > instance. lsmod only shows pwc as being loaded ( I can attach my lsmod list if you'd care to see it) > > > O/T - I'd like to try ekiga (or wengophone), but under ekiga (unlike > > skype), there isn't a way to search for anyone who has it running... > > any clues about this? > > Ekiga, 2.0.3+ anyway, does have a search feature but it's limited to 100 > matches. Fire it up, go to your "phone book" and enter a * in the > bottom dialog. Should give you a list of 100 and a notice about > "refining your search". There's a drop down that defaults to "name", > but I believe you can search on "url" and "location" also. Very cool. I just need to get this cam to work, and then I'll poll and ask someone who is on there if they could be a 'test call' for me. > From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 09:28:35 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:28:35 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John, John Dangler wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:15 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed >>>> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension >>>> that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the >>>> file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or >>>> directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. >>> There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. >>> If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you >>> sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be >>> easily forged, but signatures can't be. >> Verifying the signature also confirms that the file has not been >> modified since you signed it but some malicious person. So it acts a bit >> like an MD5 checksum with the added benefit that you can check who >> signed it. >> >> Regards, >> Tony. > So, how can I get a valid signature that I can put in my evolution > emails? You need to use gpg to generate a key pair, a secret key and the corresponding public key. gpg keeps these in a 'keyring' for you. You can then use evolution to sign outgoing messages. It's a while since I used Evo, but I think you can set it to do this automatically. You also need to make your public key available as recipients will need this to verify your signature. An additional feature of PGP is that keys can be signed themselves. Typically you get someone who can confirm you are who you say you are to sign your key. Broadly speaking the more signatures a key has, the greater the chance of it being trustworthy. Regards, Tony. - -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzuHDIsyKE/d21hkRAqwTAJ9mVO+NeX4wd3OAkXVrFH8g26pNyQCgyL65 oo+AdGwDCy5nfTmHjuTIIqE= =eAB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Sun Feb 11 09:31:29 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:31:29 +0000 Subject: turning off screensaver In-Reply-To: <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CEE271.6010408@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Turns out I had to "sudo" in order to kill the screensaver. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzuJxSk8WqQy7AdYRAq8pAJ9iks3KqZ6kUn4+6r2sA1dqNg3RpQCdHEJ/ 3hbm1X/CpeorP/FOuUJmdCw= =1gLo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 09:39:04 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:39:04 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:28 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > John, > > John Dangler wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:15 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >>> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > >>>> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > >>>> that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > >>>> file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > >>>> directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. > >>> There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to someone. > >>> If you do send it to someone, they can check the signature to verify you > >>> sent it. Emails and most forms of electronic communication can be > >>> easily forged, but signatures can't be. > >> Verifying the signature also confirms that the file has not been > >> modified since you signed it but some malicious person. So it acts a bit > >> like an MD5 checksum with the added benefit that you can check who > >> signed it. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Tony. > > So, how can I get a valid signature that I can put in my evolution > > emails? > > You need to use gpg to generate a key pair, a secret key and the > corresponding public key. gpg keeps these in a 'keyring' for you. I can man gpg for this part... > > You can then use evolution to sign outgoing messages. It's a while since > I used Evo, but I think you can set it to do this automatically. Yes, there is a place to put signatures in mail (it looks as though the preferences can be set to email account specific. > > You also need to make your public key available as recipients will need > this to verify your signature. Public, as in, on a public web server somewhere? > > An additional feature of PGP is that keys can be signed themselves. > Typically you get someone who can confirm you are who you say you are to > sign your key. Broadly speaking the more signatures a key has, the > greater the chance of it being trustworthy. Get someone to _sign_ your key? I'll need to read up on this... > > Regards, > Tony. > - -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFzuHDIsyKE/d21hkRAqwTAJ9mVO+NeX4wd3OAkXVrFH8g26pNyQCgyL65 > oo+AdGwDCy5nfTmHjuTIIqE= > =eAB4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 11 09:49:03 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:49:03 +0100 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171187343.5301.50.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 04:39 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > I'll need to read up on this... *Definitely* GPG security is worth *nothing at all* if you are not very clear on the concepts, usage, and vulnerabilities http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 09:54:03 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:54:03 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45CEE7BB.8080706@manchester.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John, John Dangler wrote: > You need to use gpg to generate a key pair, a secret key and the > corresponding public key. gpg keeps these in a 'keyring' for you. >> I can man gpg for this part... Indeed. You can either do it on a command line, or you could use Seahorse or GPA as a GUI to do it. (Under Gnome, there are probably equivalents in KDE). > You can then use evolution to sign outgoing messages. It's a while since > I used Evo, but I think you can set it to do this automatically. >> Yes, there is a place to put signatures in mail (it looks as though the >> preferences can be set to email account specific. Don't confuse PGP signing with the text signature that goes at the bottom of you messages, i.e., the bit after the '--' line, usually. In the 'Compose' window, there is a menu item 'Security' which has a PGP Sign option. There is also a security tab when editing account details for you to set up a default signing key etc. Maybe this is what you meant! > You also need to make your public key available as recipients will need > this to verify your signature. >> Public, as in, on a public web server somewhere? Public keys are just text files, so they could go on a public WEB server. Alternatively, you can register them with public key servers. For example, my version of Seahorse talks to hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 and ldap://keyserver.pgp.com but there are quite a few more. Keyservers exchange there information, so you only need to publish to one of them and they should eventually end up on all the others. > An additional feature of PGP is that keys can be signed themselves. > Typically you get someone who can confirm you are who you say you are to > sign your key. Broadly speaking the more signatures a key has, the > greater the chance of it being trustworthy. >> Get someone to _sign_ your key? I'll need to read up on this... If you check out my public key, then you will find its been signed by a number of people. I've attached it for you. Regards, Tony. - -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzue7IsyKE/d21hkRAksKAJ9ZOrT6AzR/HAPl5VkGfv+3KMOcnQCgi6am okjpNyzU0wOnjh2PzwwIAkw= =5wms -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pgpkeys.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 4844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 09:59:07 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:59:07 +0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070211033049.7ca1b6eb@chisel> References: <20070211033049.7ca1b6eb@chisel> Message-ID: On 2/11/07, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > > Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a nautilus-extension > > that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or directory by right-clicking the > > file. Can someone please tell me the use of signing a binary file or > > directory? I know it's important, but I really don't get it. > > The purpose of a digital signature is primarily to guarantee the > integrity of the signed file. To assure the person who checks the > signature against the file that the original hasn't been tampered with > in any way. So any place you need to guarantee file integrity you can > use a gpg signature. > > In a public setting the benefits are obvious. All your Ubuntu software > installs and system updates should be using digital signatures to > verify their integrity, for example. > > In a private setting the usefulness isn't quite so obvious, but if you > have a copy of your will or any other legal documents on your machine > for example, it's a good idea to sign them. There's also time stamping > services available which will stamp your signature with one of > their own and make that "sub-signature" public, irrefutably proving a > time line. Precautions that might prevent some shady cousin on your > wife's side from cutting out your kids and writing himself in for > your billions. ;) > > I've also used digital signatures to monitor changes in critical system > files and logs. Not so much in modern times because there's simpler, > easier ways to do what I use to do with signatures, but it is one > potential application. > > In fact, if you run something like a modern version of rkhunter I > believe you have the option of using some of the very same hashing > schemes gpg uses in its digital signatures to verify the integrity of > the files it keeps track of. Most of your /sbin directory for > example. And there use to be a very excellent piece of antivirus > software floating around called "Integrity Master" which used > (proprietary?) cryptographic signatures to verify executables on DOS > boxes. So the usefulness of "local" signatures isn't as broad and > visible as the more common signed message or software update > application, but it still exists for a lot of people. > Thanks for all of your awesome reply! This is a very valuable information I learned about PGP Signing and the benefits of it, which is really really interesting! I have a PGP key that I registered a year ago and It's really handy for creating debian packages for experimental (or as I call my kind of fun) purposes. Again, PGP is very very valuable, it's really amazing we have something like this! One more thing, do we need to have a key (i.e. ~/.gnupg/*) in order to verify the signed file or binary? > -- > _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. > (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. > -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- > http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Carpe Diem From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 10:30:05 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:30:05 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> Tony Arnold wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 02:24 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I have a question regarding signing a file or binary, I installed > >>> Seahorse which is really awesome tool! And it has a > >>> nautilus-extension that easily Encrypt and Sign a file or > >>> directory by right-clicking the file. Can someone please tell me > >>> the use of signing a binary file or directory? I know it's > >>> important, but I really don't get it. > >> There's no use, unless you're planning on sending the file to > >> someone. If you do send it to someone, they can check the > >> signature to verify you sent it. Emails and most forms of > >> electronic communication can be easily forged, but signatures > >> can't be. > > > > As in - gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > gpg: armor header: Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - > > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > gpg: Signature made Sun 11 Feb 2007 02:24:30 AM EST using DSA key ID > > 3BBDED59 > > gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found > > > > (this is what I see on your signature of your emails to the list)... > > You need to import his public key from a key server somewhere and add > it to your keyring. Or even better... meet in person, demand three form of photo ID, and run finger prints through NCIC/whatever. All in front of reliable, bondable witnesses. > > The question then is how much do you trust this key that you believe > belongs to a certain person? This is why PGP/GnuPG are primarily data integrity tools and not proof of authorship tools. Indeed most digital signature schemes can't be used to reliably authenticate origin, just guarantee data hasn't been tampered with. The more refined tools like GnuPG and PGP implement methods of forming trusted relationships, but they are in general not so robust and easily exploited. Certainly not to be relied on for any mission critical work. There are other protocols which address identity in much more suitable ways, although the "zero knowledge proof" problem has been a major thorn in cryptographers' sides since cryptography was invented. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 10:52:59 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:52:59 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEE7BB.8080706@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> <45CEE7BB.8080706@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20070211055259.59863e85@chisel> Tony Arnold wrote: > For example, my version of Seahorse talks to hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 > and ldap://keyserver.pgp.com but there are quite a few more. From the FWIW department, the MIT and LDAP PGP keyservers are broken. They'll mangle newer version keys and/or won't broadcast any at all. The current rule of thumb is to stick with newer HKP protocol servers, and use one of the random pool redirects like... hkp://random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de > Keyservers exchange there information, so you only need to publish to > one of them and they should eventually end up on all the others. Some do, some do not. In fact there's three main "networks" at present which do not mirror each other because they speak different keyserver "languages", and a considerable number of "lesser" servers that only mirror with select partners, or not at all. The PGP key servers are notorious for not broadcasting keys outside their little "clique", and LDAP key servers in general don't mirror anything with anybody. :( Here's a link to David Ross' page that explains in a little more detail, even though it's somewhat dated now. I'm not aware of any up-to-the-minute stats on key servers. Sorry. Best thing is to keep an eye on the GnuPG-Users mailing list like I do. :( http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 10:57:54 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:57:54 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> Message-ID: <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> Jeff, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Or even better... meet in person, demand three form of photo ID, and run > finger prints through NCIC/whatever. All in front of reliable, bondable > witnesses. LOL! > This is why PGP/GnuPG are primarily data integrity tools and not proof > of authorship tools. Indeed most digital signature schemes can't be > used to reliably authenticate origin, just guarantee data hasn't been > tampered with. The more refined tools like GnuPG and PGP implement > methods of forming trusted relationships, but they are in general not so > robust and easily exploited. Certainly not to be relied on for any > mission critical work. I don't think it is possible for someone to prove beyond doubt they are who they say they are. I suspect even your example above is open to abuse. It therefore becomes a question of degrees of trust. A document that has been signed with a key that has also been signed by a number of people increases that degree of trust, but as you say does not guarantee authorship. A signature based on a key that has not been signed by anybody is much less trustworthy. > There are other protocols which address identity in much more suitable > ways, although the "zero knowledge proof" problem has been a major > thorn in cryptographers' sides since cryptography was invented. ;) I'd be interested to hear about other such protocols. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 11:04:46 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:04:46 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070211055259.59863e85@chisel> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> <45CEE7BB.8080706@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211055259.59863e85@chisel> Message-ID: <45CEF84E.6090308@manchester.ac.uk> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: > >> For example, my version of Seahorse talks to hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 >> and ldap://keyserver.pgp.com but there are quite a few more. > > From the FWIW department, the MIT and LDAP PGP keyservers are > broken. They'll mangle newer version keys and/or won't broadcast any > at all. The current rule of thumb is to stick with newer HKP protocol > servers, and use one of the random pool redirects like... I'm not sure where Seahorse gets these from! My gnu.conf file specifies hkp:///subkeys.pgp.net which perhaps is a much better choice? > Here's a link to David Ross' page that explains in a little more > detail, even though it's somewhat dated now. I'm not aware of any > up-to-the-minute stats on key servers. Sorry. Best thing is to keep > an eye on the GnuPG-Users mailing list like I do. :( Thanks. I'm not on that list, but I probably should be! > http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html I'll give it a read. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 11:12:30 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 06:12:30 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: References: <20070211033049.7ca1b6eb@chisel> Message-ID: <20070211061230.2400e5fd@chisel> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Thanks for all of your awesome reply! This is a very valuable Glad you found it informative. :) > information I learned about PGP Signing and the benefits of it, which > is really really interesting! I have a PGP key that I registered a > year ago and It's really handy for creating debian packages for > experimental (or as I call my kind of fun) purposes. > > Again, PGP is very very valuable, it's really amazing we have > something like this! > > One more thing, do we need to have a key (i.e. ~/.gnupg/*) in order to > verify the signed file or binary? Of course. GnuPG by default works as a "two key" system where one key is only for locking the lock, and the other only for UNlocking. The two keys can theoretically be interchanged (not in practice), but they can not be substituted one for the other within a single cryptographically oriented operation like the sign/verify. If a function is performed with one component, be it the public or private key component, the complimentary operaion must be performed with the corresponding complimentary key. You sign with your private key, and people verify with your public key. You encrypt using a public key, and the recipient decrypts using their private key. Note: GnuPG and PGP both have the ability to perform symmetric cryptographic functions or "conventional" encryption that doesn't use key pairs (usually just pass phrases). But it's "standard" usage is as a Public Key Infrastructure tool. As for specifically needing a ~/.gnupg/XXXX keyring file to verify a signed binary, the answer is no. If you're talking about how apt/Synaptic verify updates and such, they store their keys somewhere else and use only certain functions from the gpgme library I believe, so you don't actually need gpg itself installed either (not sure about that). But they most certainly do have to have the proper GnuPG public keys stashed away somewhere or they complain to high heaven. ;-) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Please provide solution Pushparaj On 2/11/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am able to play vedio files in gxine 0.5.7; but no no audio: > > please provide instructions to solve the problem > > See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 > > Matthew Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun Feb 11 11:32:07 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:32:07 +0200 Subject: Mozilla Source for sources.list Message-ID: Hi All, I wold like to install Mozilla Sunbird on my Edgy box. I could download the tarball, but I would prefer an Ubuntu ready .deb file from one of the sources. Is there a source I can add to the /etc/apt/sources.list file to download Sunbird (or any other Mozilla specific app)? 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In-Reply-To: <45CEF84E.6090308@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> <45CEE1C3.5070501@manchester.ac.uk> <1171186744.10534.2.camel@croatus> <45CEE7BB.8080706@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211055259.59863e85@chisel> <45CEF84E.6090308@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20070211064316.1b57c9a7@chisel> Tony Arnold wrote: > > From the FWIW department, the MIT and LDAP PGP keyservers are > > broken. They'll mangle newer version keys and/or won't broadcast any > > at all. The current rule of thumb is to stick with newer HKP > > protocol servers, and use one of the random pool redirects like... > > I'm not sure where Seahorse gets these from! My gnu.conf file > specifies hkp:///subkeys.pgp.net which perhaps is a much better > choice? Absolutely. I believe "subkeys" is a pseudonym for another, larger server farm just like "random...de" is. Which is real handy if one server hiccups or dies. This is one of the reasons I dislike Seahorse. I think I enumerated others in a thread a few weeks ago, mostly centering on how Seahorse likes to manage it's "gpg-agent" in nonstandard ways. If you happen to install the 2.x development branch of GnuPG it can get quite messy because you essentially have two agents trying to handle pass phrase input. They invariably conflict. In my humble opinion GPA or even KGPG are preferable alternatives, although KGPG messes with your gpg.conf too, if you're not careful. It does, however, give you all that mouse-able functionality found in PGP's "PGPTray" application. GPA is just a plain ol' no-nonsense front end to basic GnuPG functionality. As far as I've seen it leaves it's paws completely off your finely tuned configuration. ;) This inserted from another reply... > I don't think it is possible for someone to prove beyond doubt they > are who they say they are. I suspect even your example above is open > to abuse. EgggggggZACTly. :) My silly in jest suggestion isn't perfect, and it's logistically infeasible for most users to even attain a lesser level of trust in a given public key. But still PGP/GnuPG is more often mistaken for a proof of authorship tool than not. > > There are other protocols which address identity in much more > > suitable ways, although the "zero knowledge proof" problem has been > > a major thorn in cryptographers' sides since cryptography was > > invented. ;) > > I'd be interested to hear about other such protocols. Probably out of the scope of this list, but think "trusted authority" like Verisign. That's where most proof of identity mechanisms have there roots. And for an overview of the more esoteric theories and such you can Google "zero knowledge proof of identity" or "zero knowledge proofs" (with the quotes). :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 12:21:58 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:21:58 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <45CEDE96.6050606@manchester.ac.uk> <1171185609.19816.18.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070211072158.6255ee09@chisel> John Dangler wrote: > So, how can I get a valid signature that I can put in my evolution > emails? Assuming you don't have GnuPG installed already, and a lack of any GUI tools like GPA or Seahorse... sudo apt-get install gnupg gpg --gen-key Go with the defaults, DSA/ELG... 2048 bit... doesn't expire... etc. When asked, type in your real name and email address (they'll be asked for separately). Some programs use the email address especially to determine which key to use. The "Comment" is a free form string you can use for whatever tickles your fancy. Just leave it blank for now. Everything but the key size and type can be changed later. Use a *good* pass phrase. :) Let GnuPG do it's "entropy gathering" and "random numbers" thing and presto. You have a shiny new key pair. :) Do a 'gpg --list-keys' to get some relevant information about them. A 'gpg -K' will show you your "secret keys". Make note of the Key ID, you'll need it later... pub 1024D/BA8A9C29 2005-08-06 4 uid Jeffrey F. Bloss [...] The 'BA8A9C29' part is what you're looking for. Yours will be different. If it isn't we have a problem. Get your public key onto at least one server... gpg --send-key --keyserver hkp://random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de You'll replace with your key ID as above. There's a couple other servers you may want to send to. I'd at least do hkp://subkeys.pgp.net also. That takes care of GnuPG. In evolution you'll want to go into (working blind here) Edit > Preferences > Mail Accounts > Edit Account. One of the tabs on that dialog is labeled "Security" I believe, and that's where you enter your GnuPG information. Use your "BA8A*****: for Key ID again, check the "always sign outgoing" if you want (some people dislike the extra baggage), and it's a good idea to "encrypt to self" at least at first to troubleshoot any problems you might have with encrypted mail if you send any. I think that should do it. Click your way back out of Evolution's configs and generate a mail. If you have "always sign" set and the proper Key ID entered you should be prompted for a pass phrase after you've composed and hit the "Send" button. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But like you say it's more "involved" than some other > > choices and probably confusing for converts. > > Quite. Actually, though, it looks like vim isn't installed either, > judging by http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/metapackages/ubuntu-desktop $ apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal | grep vim Depends: vim > > > Might be a better choice in some situations. Not sure about that > > though, it may be the pico is just a symlink that's installed with the > > nano package...?? $ ls -l /usr/bin/pico lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-09-16 20:31 /usr/bin/pico -> /bin/nano and $ apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard | grep nano Depends: nano $ apt-cache depends ubuntu-base ubuntu-base Depends: ubuntu-minimal Depends: ubuntu-standard So both vim and nano are installed in a default Ubuntu. In fact, by default, "editor" is set as "nano" . This can change if, for example , you install "mc" , which resets "editor" to be "mcedit", if I remember correctly. You can of course set vim or emacs using the alternatives system, but emacs is not installed by default ( neither is mc of course). Peter From yaocharlesc at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 13:04:36 2007 From: yaocharlesc at gmail.com (Charles Yao) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:04:36 +0800 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <45CD8D95.2060804@fahrlander.net> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> <45CD8D95.2060804@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <509d63b70702110504v32a693eam9cca08829527e031@mail.gmail.com> > > I have a PC-card in the machine I drive to work; it was one of the > Walmart cheapies, and it works very well. It's very, very cold outside, > or I'd dig up the brand name. It uses the Atheros chipset, and was only > like $40 or so. > > I just wish it had an ex tenable antenna; without it the entire PC > has to be raised up to get a signal out the windows. :) > > I've used the Linksys products for APs; it was nice, but the Belkin > "Wireless G" is a good little unit, too. Setting it up is probably a > LOT easier from Windows, but I don't have that here, so I had to fiddle > with it. The unit has good, high speed, is very reliable, and can > operate in the classic router/firewall mode, or an access point mode, > where it puts mobile units on the local net. > > I hear that Orinoco is good, but I've not tried it. AirSnort (for > packet analysis) has a special driver for it. Oh- and use > NetworkManager; it's a handy way to hook up. > > Let us know what you got, and how ya like it, aye? Hi Brian, Any particular model you could refer me to? 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Regards, /Magnus -- http://theworldofapenguin.blogspot.com From frederific at googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 14:56:04 2007 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:56:04 +0000 Subject: OT: Software like digikam, but for Gnome In-Reply-To: <1171201944.7458.8.camel@pluto.linuxalert.org> References: <45A2E89A.30002@trouble.net.au> <727fc2ee0701081834v570aa2d4j9165acca2fb7b066@mail.gmail.com> <1171200989.14359.4.camel@zeus> <1171201944.7458.8.camel@pluto.linuxalert.org> Message-ID: > Personally I love f-spot. Me too. Its preinstalled in 6.10, I'm not sure whether you can get it for 6.06 though. Google have also ported picasa to Linux<1>, but I think its running in WINE, so it won't be as fast as a native port. Freddie :) <1>http://picasa.google.com/linux/ -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From castelao.listas at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 15:12:54 2007 From: castelao.listas at gmail.com (Jorge Castelao) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:12:54 +0100 Subject: OT: Software like digikam, but for Gnome In-Reply-To: References: <45A2E89A.30002@trouble.net.au> <727fc2ee0701081834v570aa2d4j9165acca2fb7b066@mail.gmail.com> <1171200989.14359.4.camel@zeus> <1171201944.7458.8.camel@pluto.linuxalert.org> Message-ID: <1171206774.21236.4.camel@zeus> El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 14:56 +0000, Freddie Ruddick escribió: > > Personally I love f-spot. > > Me too. Its preinstalled in 6.10, I'm not sure whether you can get it > for 6.06 though. > > Google have also ported picasa to Linux<1>, but I think its running in > WINE, so it won't be as fast as a native port. > Yes, I know F-Sopot, I have it in my edgy box. But what I specifically look for is a program to burn photo presentations to a DVD, with menus, etc. Digikam is great, but it is designed for KDE. And Picasa for Linux runs in Wine, so is not what I want. By now I am trying Varsha, written in Java. Thanks. ----- Jorge Castelao castelao.listas at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mensaje firmado con GnuPG. Clave pública: http://pgp.mit.edu ID: 0x14EB01DC Huella: 4467 6464 CF06 E3AA 4C88 E504 7A8C 04B6 14EB 01DC ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente URL: From philsf at ufrj.br Sun Feb 11 16:16:37 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:16:37 -0200 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> On Saturday 10 February 2007 16:52:01 Damien Hull wrote: > I can't remember if my kernel ever got updated though. If you use aptitude fort such things, every operation gets logged in /var/log/aptitude* To be sure, make an update and upgrade cycle. If you have everything up to date, you will need no packages at all. Another way is to dpkg -l linux-image*, so you get the versions of packages cyrrently installed. Then go to packages.ubuntu.com and check the version number. If you have a server, for any purpose at all, you should subscribe to the -security-announce mailing list. This way you get email notifications of sec updates, and the reason they are being updated. You will also be able to check versions of packages this way. regards FF From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 11 16:54:55 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:54:55 +0100 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <1171212895.5301.51.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:16 -0200, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > If you have a server, for any purpose at all, you should subscribe to > the -security-announce mailing list. This way you get email > notifications of sec updates, and the reason they are being updated. Good advice. And the announcement will even say if a reboot is necessary. From dhull at digitaloverload.net Sun Feb 11 17:04:32 2007 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:04:32 -0900 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <45CF4CA0.8010701@digitaloverload.net> Thanks for the info. I'll subscribe to the security-announce list today. Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 16:52:01 Damien Hull wrote: > > >> I can't remember if my kernel ever got updated though. >> > > If you use aptitude fort such things, every operation gets logged > in /var/log/aptitude* > > To be sure, make an update and upgrade cycle. If you have everything up to > date, you will need no packages at all. > > Another way is to dpkg -l linux-image*, so you get the versions of packages > cyrrently installed. Then go to packages.ubuntu.com and check the version > number. > > If you have a server, for any purpose at all, you should subscribe to > the -security-announce mailing list. This way you get email notifications of > sec updates, and the reason they are being updated. You will also be able to > check versions of packages this way. > > regards > FF > > From antonio.fonseca at gmail.com Sun Feb 11 17:30:30 2007 From: antonio.fonseca at gmail.com (Antonio Fonseca) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:30:30 -0300 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution In-Reply-To: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: <77b92c640702110930w6c6dac45rcdefdc480932ce42@mail.gmail.com> Verify 915resolution (http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/). Feisty Fawn (Ubuntu 7.04) will include, at universe repository, the driver * * *xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting* in place of the *xserver-xorg-video-i810 to address that.* On 2/11/07, David Liu wrote: > > I recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell Laptop Model 640m-n which has a > 16:9 LCD. Its resolution should be 1280x800. But in my Screen resolution > config in XFCE only provide me a 1024x768. I check my xorg.conf, there > is only one resolution - 1280x800. Any other config file should I > modify? > > Any reply is appreciated! > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- ANTONIO FONSECA http://antoniofonseca.wordpress.com/ "Você vê coisas que existem e se pergunta: por quê? Eu imagino coisas que não existem e me pergunto: por que não?" (George Bernard Shaw) Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org/ComeceAqui -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had to enter them manually... Maybe you should file a bug. Did it keep your mail? >> But, for the moment, I'm >>> documenting my Edgy build and apt'ing packages... Hopefully, the list is >>> getting these messages. I've sent 2 or 3 since I began (at about 2AM), >>> but haven't seen them show up as of yet... >> Is that the wind I hear? ;) > hehe - yeah, it's all in sync now... > (still trying to figure out this silly webcam... I was amazed to find > ekiga actually allowed mic input through the Logitech pro 3000, but > neither ekiga nor camorama will deliver the video (just a dark gray box) I'm not really that surprised. Webcams all seem to be one-off manufactures to me, so it makes sense that there's poor driver support. > But the environment is slowly coming together... Good. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Matthew Flaschen > Pushparaj > > On 2/11/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Pushparaj Shetty wrote: >> > I gave the foolowing command >> > #mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/CWindow/ >> > It accepted. But when I tried to open the folder; >> > It says >> > You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of >> "CWindow". >> >> Okay, edit (as root) the file /etc/fstab . >> >> Add a line like: >> >> /dev/sda1 /mnt/CWindow ntfs >> defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0077,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 1 >> >> That should be only one line. Replace the uid and gid numbers (1000 in >> this case) with the values for your user and group. To find these >> values, type the command (NOT as root): >> >> id >> >> In my case, I get something beginning with: >> >> uid=1000(matthew) gid=1000(matthew) >> >> You should use the numbers you get. >> >> Then restart and the partition should mount automatically and give you >> access. >> >> sudo mount /mnt/CWindow >> >> Let me know what happens. >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a Logitech Pro >>> 3000 webcam, which shows a grey window in both camorama and ekiga. >>> Camorama does see the camera, and ekiga configuration even allows the >>> audio input through the webcam, but both fail for the video. >>> >>> I looked at installing easycam2, but looking in their list of known >>> cam drivers, the 3000 isn't among them, and I did read where Edgy had >>> newer drivers than Dapper (under Dapper it never worked at all, but >>> under Breezy, it did - go figure)... >>> >>> Does anyone here have any input as to what I can try (or tweak) to get >>> this to work? >>> >> What module(s) are you currently running? I find that the newer gspca >> modules are more unstable than the older spca5xx on this box, for >> instance. >> > lsmod only shows pwc as being loaded ( I can attach my lsmod list if > you'd care to see it) > >>> O/T - I'd like to try ekiga (or wengophone), but under ekiga (unlike >>> skype), there isn't a way to search for anyone who has it running... >>> any clues about this? >>> >> Ekiga, 2.0.3+ anyway, does have a search feature but it's limited to 100 >> matches. Fire it up, go to your "phone book" and enter a * in the >> bottom dialog. Should give you a list of 100 and a notice about >> "refining your search". There's a drop down that defaults to "name", >> but I believe you can search on "url" and "location" also. >> > Very cool. I just need to get this cam to work, and then I'll poll and > ask someone who is on there if they could be a 'test call' for me. > > > > The pwc driver module is broke in edgy but there are instructions to build a working one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#head-836881f8aaa64508507ce1f2091b24b8aead02cb Andrew Mahoney From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Feb 11 18:12:46 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:12:46 +0100 Subject: system refresh In-Reply-To: <1171129526.15292.1.camel@croatus> References: <1171062884.1942.26.camel@localhost> <45CD0210.8070000@gatech.edu> <45CD0CB8.1070507@gmail.com> <1171129526.15292.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171217566.5301.53.camel@chronic> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 12:45 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > So far, so good. I did realize that restoring the .evo folder/files > doesn't bring back the email accounts setups. First hit on google for "evolution backup" (w/o the quotes) is this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 18:17:33 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:17:33 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> Message-ID: <45CF5DBD.2070001@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > This is why PGP/GnuPG are primarily data integrity tools and not proof > of authorship tools. Indeed most digital signature schemes can't be > used to reliably authenticate origin, just guarantee data hasn't been > tampered with. The more refined tools like GnuPG and PGP implement > methods of forming trusted relationships, but they are in general not so > robust and easily exploited. Certainly not to be relied on for any > mission critical work. They can be quite useful. You just have to verify key ownership "out of band". I.E. the same way you first check identities for this mission critical project, including in person. Matthew Flaschen Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 18:18:19 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:18:19 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <45CF5DEB.2000300@gatech.edu> Tony Arnold wrote: > You need to import his public key from a key server somewhere and add it > to your keyring. > > The question then is how much do you trust this key that you believe > belongs to a certain person? It belongs to a certain person, the question is which (and if it matters). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Feb 11 18:57:53 2007 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:57:53 -0800 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: <87hctuvphk.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> <87hctuvphk.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <45CF6731.7000104@mikefedyk.com> Florian Diesch wrote: > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Ed Smits wrote: >>> However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I >>> notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot >>> of network traffic I can't account for. >> apt-get install nmap >> nmap -np >> >> nmap will show you in brutal detail what is happening on your network >> interface(s). > > nmap is a portscanner, it doesn't show traffic. Yes, replace nmap with tcpdump and the commands above will work. Mike From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Feb 11 20:05:41 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:05:41 -0600 Subject: Odd network traffic with Edgy In-Reply-To: <45CF6731.7000104@mikefedyk.com> References: <45CC015E.8030006@mikefedyk.com> <87hctuvphk.fsf@spamfence.net> <45CF6731.7000104@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <45CF7715.8080408@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Fedyk wrote: > Florian Diesch wrote: >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Ed Smits wrote: >>>> However, on the newer one, which I just started to set up this week I >>>> notice that even in those quiet moments I have what seems to be a lot >>>> of network traffic I can't account for. >>> apt-get install nmap >>> nmap -np >>> >>> nmap will show you in brutal detail what is happening on your network >>> interface(s). >> nmap is a portscanner, it doesn't show traffic. > > Yes, replace nmap with tcpdump and the commands above will work. There's also "etherape"; but I've yet to see anything as nice as trafshow was, for this kinda examination. :/ For some reason, the Russians took over the project, and now it doesn't seem to be in mainstream distros... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFz3cV6PLtRzZbdhYRAj7PAJ9WYvNld2IRJhiU87TVwmkq/GCJkwCfQbCH 8QLAdrrMag3pEB2Y4Jn/iwk= =hh4F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sun Feb 11 20:09:39 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:09:39 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45CF5DEB.2000300@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <45CF5DEB.2000300@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070211150939.176b731c@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: > > You need to import his public key from a key server somewhere and > > add it to your keyring. > > > > The question then is how much do you trust this key that you believe > > belongs to a certain person? > > It belongs to a certain person, the question is which (and if it > matters). You really can't know any of that, leastwise not with any built in PGP/GnuPG functionality. The questions of whether it matters or not is mostly irrelevant because there simply is no way to either reliably verify identity, or guarantee that a "verified" key remains in the sole poseesion of any entity or person. IOW, the whole "web of trust" and key signing/exchange functionality in general is full of more holes than fine baby Swiss. It's weak by design. Considerably less secure than something like a typical key/password SSH login for example. Not suitable for anything but the most trivial application. On the other hand, PGP/GnuPG encryption and integrity verification functionality are, of course, outstanding. There really is no fool proof way to cryptographically prove identity right now. A few multi-factor authentication ephemeral key exchange protocols come close, but they're also easily exploitable without hard physical security. Maybe one day when quantum encryption evolves out of infancy and we can implement some system where even attempting to read an encrypted data stream destroys it, thus making it flatly impossible for anyone but the sender and recipient themselves to read a message... but not today. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Can anyone give me any direction on how to solve this problem? - frustrating Dennis _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 20:30:07 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:30:07 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CF7CCF.7010802@gatech.edu> Dennis Castanos wrote: > I can't connect to the internet on my laptop. It was working. In firefox > it says looking up but no connection. Ping hangs. My DNS settings are > correct. I can connect through XP. Can anyone give me any direction on how > to solve this problem? - frustrating > Dennis Hmm. Could you post the output from ifconfig? In the mean time, try entering the commands: sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0 Replace eth0 with your network adapter name. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 21:37:54 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:37:54 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <45CF7CCF.7010802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? Thank you much - Dennis mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:D8:EA:67:CF inet addr:208.106.49.16 Bcast:208.106.49.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:d8ff:feea:67cf/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:952 (952.0 b) TX bytes:1184 (1.1 KiB) Interrupt:225 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:5F:F9:5E inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe5f:f95e/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:63 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5143 (5.0 KiB) TX bytes:1895 (1.8 KiB) Interrupt:177 Base address:0x4000 Memory:fbffa000-fbffafff lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:84 (84.0 b) TX bytes:84 (84.0 b) mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ sudo ifdown eth0 Password: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 3512 killed old client process, removed PID file Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:ea:67:cf Sending on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:ea:67:cf Sending on Socket/fallback mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ sudo ifup eth0 There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 134993416 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:ea:67:cf Sending on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:ea:67:cf Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 DHCPOFFER from 208.106.48.1 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 208.106.48.1 bound to 208.106.49.16 -- renewal in 137 seconds. mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:30:07 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I can't connect to the internet on my laptop. It was working. In >firefox > > it says looking up but no connection. Ping hangs. My DNS settings are > > correct. I can connect through XP. Can anyone give me any direction on >how > > to solve this problem? - frustrating > > Dennis > >Hmm. Could you post the output from ifconfig? > >In the mean time, try entering the commands: > >sudo ifdown eth0 > >sudo ifup eth0 > >Replace eth0 with your network adapter name. > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 11 21:39:47 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:39:47 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <45CF7CCF.7010802@gatech.edu> References: <45CF7CCF.7010802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171229987.10534.10.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 15:30 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I can't connect to the internet on my laptop. It was working. In firefox > > it says looking up but no connection. Ping hangs. My DNS settings are > > correct. I can connect through XP. Can anyone give me any direction on how > > to solve this problem? - frustrating > > Dennis > > Hmm. Could you post the output from ifconfig? > > In the mean time, try entering the commands: > > sudo ifdown eth0 > > sudo ifup eth0 > > Replace eth0 with your network adapter name. > > Matthew Flaschen Are you new to Ubuntu/Linux? If so, do this: cat /etc/network/interfaces > ~/Desktop/netfile.txt cd ~/Desktop open netfile in a text editor, select all of the text, and post it here. Is this a new install? What version of Ubuntu? > From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 11 21:47:40 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:47:40 -0800 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: <45CF4CA0.8010701@digitaloverload.net> References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> <45CF4CA0.8010701@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: Damien Hull wrote: > Thanks for the info. I'll subscribe to the security-announce list today. > If you have access to a newsreader (Evolution, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, etc), I'd also recommend that you subscribe to news.gmane.org. Right click on news.gmain.org|Subscribe| search on groups for ubuntu and subscribe to the listed groups. news.gmain.org archives all of the lists and you can post to same from the newsreader. Helps cut down on your email inbox & you can search/view threads directly. So, for the security-announce list it would be news.gmain.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.security.announce and you'd find [USN-416-1] Linux kernel vulnerabilities dated February 01, 2007 that provides all of the information regarding the latest kernel info. From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 11 22:01:00 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:01:00 -0800 Subject: Should I reboot after an update? In-Reply-To: References: <45CE1451.4090607@digitaloverload.net> <200702111416.37824.philsf@ufrj.br> <45CF4CA0.8010701@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > Damien Hull wrote: >> Thanks for the info. I'll subscribe to the security-announce list today. >> > > If you have access to a newsreader (Evolution, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, > etc), I'd also recommend that you subscribe to news.gmane.org. Right > click on news.gmain.org|Subscribe| search on groups for ubuntu and > subscribe to the listed groups. news.gmain.org archives all of the lists > and you can post to same from the newsreader. Helps cut down on your > email inbox & you can search/view threads directly. > > So, for the security-announce list it would be > news.gmain.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.security.announce > and you'd find > [USN-416-1] Linux kernel vulnerabilities > dated February 01, 2007 that provides all of the information regarding > the latest kernel info. > Sorry, forgot to add that notice carries this important bit of information: ==== ATTENTION: Due to an unavoidable ABI change the Ubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.10 kernel updates have been given a new version number, which requires you to recompile and reinstall all third party kernel modules you might have installed. If you use linux-restricted-modules, you have to update that package as well to get modules which work with the new kernel version. Unless you manually uninstalled the standard kernel metapackages (linux-386, linux-powerpc, linux-amd64-generic), a standard system upgrade will automatically perform this as well. ==== So, if for example you have compiled a VMware Server Console kernel for instance, VMware *won't* work with linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 (Dapper) or linux-image-2.6.17-11-386 (Edgy) unless you recompile the VMware kernel again. At least that was my experience on Dapper 6.0.61. From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 22:04:45 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:04:45 -0800 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <1171229987.10534.10.camel@croatus> Message-ID: It' working again but I don't know for how long. yes I'm new to Edgy Ubuntu. I did a fresh install a couple of day ago. Installed firestarter, nvu, flash 9, java 11 update. All programs was installed the Ubuntu way. NO AUTOMATIX. I keep having this problem with the DSL quitting on me. Any imput would be nice - Thanks, Dennis auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp auto ath0 iface ath0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp >From: John Dangler >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: Re: >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:39:47 -0500 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 15:30 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > I can't connect to the internet on my laptop. It was working. In >firefox > > > it says looking up but no connection. Ping hangs. My DNS settings >are > > > correct. I can connect through XP. Can anyone give me any direction >on how > > > to solve this problem? - frustrating > > > Dennis > > > > Hmm. Could you post the output from ifconfig? > > > > In the mean time, try entering the commands: > > > > sudo ifdown eth0 > > > > sudo ifup eth0 > > > > Replace eth0 with your network adapter name. > > > > Matthew Flaschen >Are you new to Ubuntu/Linux? >If so, do this: >cat /etc/network/interfaces > ~/Desktop/netfile.txt >cd ~/Desktop >open netfile in a text editor, select all of the text, and post it here. > >Is this a new install? What version of Ubuntu? > > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Don�t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 11 22:09:56 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:09:56 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CF9434.1030507@gatech.edu> Dennis Castanos wrote: > Matthew > I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. > This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? Just: sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0 That drops the Ethernet connection, then reconnects. You really shouldn't ever have to do this, but your router may be misconfigured or something... Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 22:33:01 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:33:01 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <45CF9434.1030507@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew, It mush be something. It's happens quite often. It always connects under XP. I can live with using sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup eth0. thanks again Dennis >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:09:56 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Matthew > > I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. > > This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? > >Just: > >sudo ifdown eth0 >sudo ifup eth0 > >That drops the Ethernet connection, then reconnects. > >You really shouldn't ever have to do this, but your router may be >misconfigured or something... > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 From brad at bkjohnson.com Sun Feb 11 23:14:03 2007 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnsonx) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:14:03 -0600 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171235643.6176.7.camel@t42> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > Matthew, It mush be something. It's happens quite often. It always > connects under XP. I can live with using sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup eth0. > thanks again Dennis It might be DNS. I've found a few DSL routers for which Ubuntu (and other Linux Distros) have trouble using the modem's DNS passthrough (the modem masquerading as a DNS server). When the problem is happening, try pinging 64.233.167.99 (a google ip). If you get replies your connecting is still working but DNS resolution is failing. If this is the case, you can either install bind9 on the local machine and set your primary DNS server to 127.0.0.1 or you can use the freely available servers listed at opendns.org (although they falsify DNS results in some cases). In any case, it will be useful to determine if the problem is the connection dropping or simply DNS resolution failing. Brad From james.gray at dot.com.au Sun Feb 11 23:32:05 2007 From: james.gray at dot.com.au (James Gray) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:32:05 +1100 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? In-Reply-To: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> References: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <200702121032.09006.james.gray@dot.com.au> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:51:09 am Chris Rohde wrote: > Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens again, > but has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps crashing? > > Happen to anyone else? Yes - and if you install the "kdelibs-dbg" you cna help the dev's with useful backtraces. I've been trying to hunt down a bug in the source that seems to occur when spawning a thread under certain circumstances (specifically when selecting a non-running component of Kontact, like Knode), but so far, no joy. I really need to just bit the bullet and run Kontact with a debugger until it barfs...but that takes time I don't have :P Cheers, James -- I didn't believe in reincarnation in any of my other lives. I don't see why I should have to believe in it in this one. -- Strange de Jim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1357 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 23:36:22 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:36:22 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171235643.6176.7.camel@t42> Message-ID: thanks Brad. I will follow up and try to determine if the problem is the connection dropping or simply DNS resolution failing. This email will be move to my save folder. >From: Brad Johnsonx >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:14:03 -0600 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Matthew, It mush be something. It's happens quite often. It always > > connects under XP. I can live with using sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup >eth0. > > thanks again Dennis > >It might be DNS. I've found a few DSL routers for which Ubuntu (and >other Linux Distros) have trouble using the modem's DNS passthrough (the >modem masquerading as a DNS server). > >When the problem is happening, try pinging 64.233.167.99 (a google ip). >If you get replies your connecting is still working but DNS resolution >is failing. If this is the case, you can either install bind9 on the >local machine and set your primary DNS server to 127.0.0.1 or you can >use the freely available servers listed at opendns.org (although they >falsify DNS results in some cases). In any case, it will be useful to >determine if the problem is the connection dropping or simply DNS >resolution failing. > >Brad > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Don�t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From vitus at alter-schwede.de Sun Feb 11 21:26:47 2007 From: vitus at alter-schwede.de (Vitus Jensen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:26:47 +0100 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? References: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Chris Rohde wrote: > Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens again, > but has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps crashing? Well, it's your machine, no idea why kmail crashes at you. > Happen to anyone else? Yes, enough to be notible, not enough to be annoying. I think it happens when I change the settings or there was a network problem. When kmail starts at sessionstart there was never a crash. To get kmail running again I try generate some network traffik while starting it. It looks to me like a timing problem. I never lost mail because of kmail crashes, so i don't mind. By[t]e, Vitus From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 12 01:10:06 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:10:06 -0800 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Charles Yao wrote: > Hi all, > > To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a > dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting up our > Dapper units to work with wifi. > > > Charles > I have a Linksys WUSB11 Ver 2.8 that someone gave to me (they couldn't get it to work on Windows - but apparently didn't know how to set it up) and was able to set it up just fine. It's a portable 2.4 Ghz USB unit - check on the Linksys site for info. From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 01:29:04 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:29:04 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171235643.6176.7.camel@t42> Message-ID: It happen again I tried pinging 64.233.167.99 It just search-hangs. I guess this means DNS resolution is failing. Correct? Should I install bind9 on the local machine and set your primary DNS server to 127.0.0.1 The local machine would be my laptop, correct? I don't mean to ask stupid questionss; I just want to get it right Dennis, sort of new at linux >From: Brad Johnsonx >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:14:03 -0600 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Matthew, It mush be something. It's happens quite often. It always > > connects under XP. I can live with using sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup >eth0. > > thanks again Dennis > >It might be DNS. I've found a few DSL routers for which Ubuntu (and >other Linux Distros) have trouble using the modem's DNS passthrough (the >modem masquerading as a DNS server). > >When the problem is happening, try pinging 64.233.167.99 (a google ip). >If you get replies your connecting is still working but DNS resolution >is failing. If this is the case, you can either install bind9 on the >local machine and set your primary DNS server to 127.0.0.1 or you can >use the freely available servers listed at opendns.org (although they >falsify DNS results in some cases). In any case, it will be useful to >determine if the problem is the connection dropping or simply DNS >resolution failing. > >Brad > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Valentine�s Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 01:32:08 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:32:08 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CFC398.2050804@gatech.edu> Dennis Castanos wrote: > It happen again I tried pinging 64.233.167.99 > It just search-hangs. I guess this means DNS resolution is failing. No, that would mean it's not DNS. I think your DHCP is bad myself. > Correct? > Should I install bind9 on the local machine and set your primary DNS > server to 127.0.0.1 I don't think that would help. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 01:42:19 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:42:19 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <45CFC398.2050804@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:32:08 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > It happen again I tried pinging 64.233.167.99 > > It just search-hangs. I guess this means DNS resolution is failing. > >No, that would mean it's not DNS. I think your DHCP is bad myself. > > > Correct? > > Should I install bind9 on the local machine and set your primary DNS > > server to 127.0.0.1 > >I don't think that would help. > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Don�t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 01:50:26 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45CFC7E2.8060403@gatech.edu> Dennis Castanos wrote: > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be wrong. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 02:08:23 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:08:23 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <45CFC7E2.8060403@gatech.edu> Message-ID: I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The same thing was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a problem. I will just deal with it. thanks for you time, Dennis >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be wrong. > >Matthew Flaschen > > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo � buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From golfbuf at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 02:40:42 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:40:42 -0500 Subject: Transfering Files Over USB is Very Slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <835a7820702111840h55465e4bhf8150f7f65e0acf0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/11/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi, > > I have a weird problem: when transferring files over USB 2.0 to a USB > storage device (DiskOnKey, my Nokia 770) the transfer begins normally, but > after about 20 seconds it becomes slow until it stops completely for a few > minutes(sometimes more than 6-7 minutes!) and then finishes or just hangs so > I have to cancel and start over. It happens both under the Gnome and under > console using Midnight Commander. > > Apparently I have something configured wrong. > > Any pointers? Similar "stalling" problem here, so I gave up trying. Now, I use a terminal with command like 'cp ' and it does not stall. HTH, From wade at wadesmart.com Mon Feb 12 02:50:15 2007 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171248617.5738.48.camel@wadesmart> 02112007 2011 GMT-6 You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying their tech support doesnt support linux? Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. They just supply a IP address. What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? wade On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The same thing > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a problem. I > will just deal with it. > thanks for you time, Dennis > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be wrong. > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people > you know > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 02:56:12 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:56:12 -0500 Subject: Crashes in Kontact? In-Reply-To: <200702101929.40567.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <45ce1415.14007129.68f5.3bae@mx.google.com> <20070211112521.a378482c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <200702101929.40567.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <200702112156.12827.veritastic@gmail.com> Thats true... and as far as it just crashing, meaning it shuts off, with an error window. Only time I saw it in ubuntu or kubuntu so far. On Saturday 10 February 2007 19:29:40 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 19:25, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:51:09 -0500 > > > > Chris Rohde wrote: > > > Alright... so hopefully I can get this email out before it happens > > > again, but has anyone heard of any good reason that my email keeps > > > crashing? > > > > "My email keeps crashing" doesn't give us a lot of information to help > > you :) It's in the same general set of statements as " Help! It doesn't > > work!" > > > > Perhaps if you told the list when and how the crash happens, whether you > > have made any personal configuration changes recently, and so on - in > > other words, what steps are required to produce the crash. > > > > Another helpful set of informational messages might be what output, if > > any, you see in a terminal when the crash occurs, by running kmail from > > konsole or your terminal emulator of choice . > > > > Peter > > Additionally, the OP might want to consider: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > and posting to kubuntu-users since it's a KDE application. > > Scott K From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 04:12:51 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:12:51 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171248617.5738.48.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I switch providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, but the don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only command he help me with was sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a contract. Dennis >From: Wade Smart >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying their >tech support doesnt support linux? > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. >They just supply a IP address. > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? > >wade > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The same >thing > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a >problem. I > > will just deal with it. > > thanks for you time, Dennis > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. > > > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be wrong. > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people > > you know > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 04:34:46 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:46 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171254886.10534.12.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:04 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > It' working again but I don't know for how long. yes I'm new to Edgy > Ubuntu. I did a fresh install a couple of day ago. Installed firestarter, > nvu, flash 9, java 11 update. All programs was installed the Ubuntu way. > NO AUTOMATIX. I keep having this problem with the DSL quitting on me. Any > imput would be nice - Thanks, Dennis > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > auto eth2 > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > auto ath0 > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > auto wlan0 > iface wlan0 inet dhcp If your DSL is having a problem, Ubuntu won't solve it. I've had a problem with my business class DSL going off line for a while, and after a lot of moaning, my ISP is finally doing something about it. As to your interfaces file, if you're using lo and eth0, but no others, you can comment them out (or remove them), since they're not needed. > > > > > >From: John Dangler > >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > >general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: Re: > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:39:47 -0500 > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 15:30 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > I can't connect to the internet on my laptop. It was working. In > >firefox > > > > it says looking up but no connection. Ping hangs. My DNS settings > >are > > > > correct. I can connect through XP. Can anyone give me any direction > >on how > > > > to solve this problem? - frustrating > > > > Dennis > > > > > > Hmm. Could you post the output from ifconfig? > > > > > > In the mean time, try entering the commands: > > > > > > sudo ifdown eth0 > > > > > > sudo ifup eth0 > > > > > > Replace eth0 with your network adapter name. > > > > > > Matthew Flaschen > >Are you new to Ubuntu/Linux? > >If so, do this: > >cat /etc/network/interfaces > ~/Desktop/netfile.txt > >cd ~/Desktop > >open netfile in a text editor, select all of the text, and post it here. > > > >Is this a new install? What version of Ubuntu? > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ > > From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Feb 12 04:38:56 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:38:56 -0800 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> <45CD039B.8020408@gatech.edu> <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45CFEF60.2090303@dmiyu.org> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> I'm running 6.10. Go to kcontrol, then search for Laptop. >> No matches. > Hmm, have a look at http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~mflaschen3/kcontrol.png > . Maybe we're miscommunicating. Does that help at all? Well, only in that it helps me clarify "No matches." http://www.dmiyu.org/~grey/no_laptop.png That's my kcontrol window over your screenshot as viewed in Firefox. I have no Power Control and no Laptop Battery. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 04:40:15 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171255215.10534.16.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I switch > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, but the > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only command he > help me with was > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a > contract. The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't let your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and it works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, then it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. > Dennis > > > >From: Wade Smart > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > >general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 > > > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 > > > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying their > >tech support doesnt support linux? > > > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. > >They just supply a IP address. > > > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? > > > >wade > > > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The same > >thing > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a > >problem. I > > > will just deal with it. > > > thanks for you time, Dennis > > > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > > > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are correct. > > > > > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be wrong. > > > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people > > > you know > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 04:50:02 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:50:02 -0500 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45CFEF60.2090303@dmiyu.org> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> <45CD039B.8020408@gatech.edu> <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> <45CFEF60.2090303@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <45CFF1FA.7000204@gatech.edu> Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>>> I'm running 6.10. Go to kcontrol, then search for Laptop. >>> No matches. > >> Hmm, have a look at http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~mflaschen3/kcontrol.png >> . Maybe we're miscommunicating. Does that help at all? > > Well, only in that it helps me clarify "No matches." > > http://www.dmiyu.org/~grey/no_laptop.png > > That's my kcontrol window over your screenshot as viewed in Firefox. I > have no Power Control and no Laptop Battery. I'm having trouble accessing your file. I'll take your word for it, though. I guess Ubuntu doesn't have as good power support for your laptop. Is it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops ? Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 04:58:16 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:58:16 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171255215.10534.16.camel@croatus> Message-ID: If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on XP. What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? Dennis >From: John Dangler >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I >switch > > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, but >the > > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only command >he > > help me with was > > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf > > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. > > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a > > contract. >The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't let >your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on >it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... >If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and it >works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, then >it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've >gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to >send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. > > Dennis > > > > > > >From: Wade Smart > > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > > >general discussions" > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 > > > > > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 > > > > > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying their > > >tech support doesnt support linux? > > > > > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. > > >They just supply a IP address. > > > > > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a > > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? > > > > > >wade > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The >same > > >thing > > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a > > >problem. I > > > > will just deal with it. > > > > thanks for you time, Dennis > > > > > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >discussions" > > > > > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are >correct. > > > > > > > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be >wrong. > > > > > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with >people > > > > you know > > > > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > > Spaces > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > > > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 12 05:21:57 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:21:57 +0100 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171257717.5247.5.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > It's happens quite often. Please check out the log files when the problem just happened. Open them with a text editor (menu Applications/Text Editor) or with "less " on the command line. Then look at the last entries at the end of the files. The interesting files would be /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/syslog. If the problem is your machine (as opposed to the router) we might find something in the logs From jim at oz.net Mon Feb 12 05:44:00 2007 From: jim at oz.net (Jim Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:44:00 -0800 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> Charles Yao wrote: > > Hi all, > > To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a > dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting > up our > Dapper units to work with wifi. > > > Charles > -- > "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you > sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable > of doing the thing it was bought to do" I have had good luck so far with a D-Link WBR2310 router. My desktop is hooked to the LAN port and my Sony Laptop using IPW2200 under Dapper is running fine, indicating 54mbps. Its what I'm using to write this message. This worked well out of the box for me. As always, your mileage may vary. Jim From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 05:49:04 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:49:04 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171257717.5247.5.camel@chronic> Message-ID: good to here from you Mario All I have to do is re-boot and then run sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0 keep in mind that I don't have a problem with XP be back later. there is a lot of text in those files dennis >From: Mario Vukelic >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:21:57 +0100 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > It's happens quite often. > >Please check out the log files when the problem just happened. Open them >with a text editor (menu Applications/Text Editor) or with "less >" on the command line. Then look at the last entries at the >end of the files. >The interesting files would be /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/messages, >and /var/log/syslog. > >If the problem is your machine (as opposed to the router) we might find >something in the logs > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline From miles.lane at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 05:58:50 2007 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:58:50 -0500 Subject: Phantom network traffic reported in system monitor for madwifi driver. Message-ID: Hello, I am seeing some very strange traffic reporting while using my Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01). This card is labeled as a Belkin "Wireless G Notebook Card". Regardless, the card seems to work, but I am seeing some really weird network activity. I have tried checking the connection using tcpdump. One bizarre thing about these drivers is that they create more that one device: ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:50:70:FC:04 inet addr:192.168.1.108 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:50ff:fe70:fc04/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2943 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2087 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:3308943 (3.1 MiB) TX bytes:329776 (322.0 KiB) wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-11-50-70-FC-04-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:27260 errors:0 dropped:1962 overruns:0 frame:2003 TX packets:2661 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:199 RX bytes:4834375 (4.6 MiB) TX bytes:402928 (393.4 KiB) Interrupt:11 I do see some traffic on wifi0: tcpdump: WARNING: wifi0: no IPv4 address assigned tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on wifi0, link-type IEEE802_11 (802.11), capture size 96 bytes 00:55:26.534947 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:26.535596 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:26.626749 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:26.852718 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:29.974943 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:29.974988 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:30.126994 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:30.223122 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:30.331295 Assoc Request[|802.11] 00:55:30.561877 Assoc Request[|802.11] Sometimes this traffic is reported in system monitor as being about 80% of the available bandwidth, I seem to have a working connection through wifi0.\ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 05:59:18 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:59:18 -0500 Subject: CD-ROM error In-Reply-To: <1171257717.5247.5.camel@chronic> References: <1171257717.5247.5.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <45D00236.7080404@gatech.edu> Mario Vukelic wrote: > The interesting files would be /var/log/kern.log For no particular reason, I checked this, and I'm getting the message: "Feb 11 21:36:12 matthew-e1505 kernel: [17286299.540000] sr0: CD-ROM not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive." every second. Is there anything I can do to prevent this? My DVD(+/-)RW is working fine. I'm running 2.6.17-11-generic on Edgy with a dual-core. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 06:03:20 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:03:20 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on XP. > What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the > providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any > recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... > Dennis > > > >From: John Dangler > >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > >general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I > >switch > > > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, but > >the > > > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only command > >he > > > help me with was > > > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf > > > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. > > > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a > > > contract. > >The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't let > >your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on > >it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... > >If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and it > >works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, then > >it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've > >gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to > >send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > >From: Wade Smart > > > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > > > >general discussions" > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 > > > > > > > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 > > > > > > > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying their > > > >tech support doesnt support linux? > > > > > > > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. > > > >They just supply a IP address. > > > > > > > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a > > > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? > > > > > > > >wade > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The > >same > > > >thing > > > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a > > > >problem. I > > > > > will just deal with it. > > > > > thanks for you time, Dennis > > > > > > > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > >discussions" > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are > >correct. > > > > > > > > > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be > >wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with > >people > > > > > you know > > > > > > > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > > > Spaces > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > something more. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 06:05:12 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:05:12 -0500 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> <45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> Message-ID: <1171260312.10534.21.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:44 -0800, Jim Smith wrote: > Charles Yao wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > To those who are using wireless adapters for Dapper, can you recommend a > > dlink or linksys model that works? I have been having trouble setting > > up our > > Dapper units to work with wifi. > > > > > > Charles > > -- > > "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you > > sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable > > of doing the thing it was bought to do" > I have had good luck so far with a D-Link WBR2310 router. My desktop is > hooked to the LAN port and my Sony Laptop using IPW2200 under Dapper is > running fine, indicating 54mbps. Its what I'm using to write this > message. This worked well out of the box for me. > > As always, your mileage may vary. > > Jim > If you are using static IP's and get wireless working, please reply to the list and let us (read - me), know how you did it. I have a wireless on my Linux laptop with a static IP that has never worked under Ubuntu (5.04/5.10/6.06) From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 12 06:02:36 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:36 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: <45CF7CCF.7010802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Dennis Castanos wrote: > Matthew > I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. > This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? > Thank you much - Dennis > > mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:D8:EA:67:CF > inet addr:208.106.49.16 Bcast:208.106.49.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::211:d8ff:feea:67cf/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:952 (952.0 b) TX bytes:1184 (1.1 KiB) > Interrupt:225 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:5F:F9:5E > inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe5f:f95e/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:63 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:5143 (5.0 KiB) TX bytes:1895 (1.8 KiB) > Interrupt:177 Base address:0x4000 Memory:fbffa000-fbffafff > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:84 (84.0 b) TX bytes:84 (84.0 b) As someone has already pointed out, you can connect to your DSL provider via linux, Windoze, or whatever. It does not matter to the DSL provider; what does matter is that your interface is set up properly. If you can connect with windows, my guess is that you have your eth interfaces set up wrong. > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:D8:EA:67:CF > inet addr:208.106.49.16 Bcast:208.106.49.255 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Before you do the following, log into your DSL modem/router and check the DNS settings (perhaps log into 192.168.1.1 from your browser?) - don't change them, just write down what they are. You can also do this in Windows if you can't from linux just yet. I'm guessing from the above IP that you are using c-net and your DNS should be: Primary DNS: 63.172.74.211 Secondary DNS: 63.172.74.203 See: http://www.c-zone.net/settings.php In Ubuntu Go to System|Administration|Networking and bring up the network settings interface. >From the above it appears that you have two NIC's in the laptop. You only need one, so for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. Now click on the eth1 interface and the "DNS" tab. Add your DNS IP's. and click OK. Now go back to the Connections tab & click on the Properties for eth1. Check to see if the connection settings are set for "DHCP". Click OK. At the bottom of the page you'll see: "Default gateway device", make sure that it is set to eth1. Click OK. Now bring up your browser (Firefox?) and try to connect to your DSL modem and/or Google. Does it work? If not, you might want power down your laptop, reboot your DSL modem (power down for 30 sec or more), wait another 30 sec and then power up your laptop & boot back into linux and then try again. If that doesn't work, then try doing the same using eth0 instead of eth1. Just remember to only have one active at a time while you are troubleshooting. If neither work, then try using a fixed IP rather than DHCP. It could be that your modem/router isn't issuing a proper IP address and using a fixed IP will work instead... say 192.168.1.103, or perhaps a different subnet, say 192.168.4.103. That's my 2 cents... good luck & hope that helps. From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 06:15:18 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:15:18 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171257717.5247.5.camel@chronic> Message-ID: I might have copy a little to much KERN.LOG Feb 11 21:56:21 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179741.284000] Unknown InputIN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:18:de:72:2e:ab:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.102 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=211 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=14896 PROTO=UDP SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=191 Feb 11 21:56:40 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179760.212000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 21:56:47 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179767.212000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 21:57:01 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179781.212000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 21:57:19 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179799.212000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 MESSAGES Feb 11 21:58:05 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179845.208000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 21:58:17 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179857.256000] Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:11:d8:ea:67:cf:00:02:3b:01:45:32:08:00 SRC=208.106.48.1 DST=208.106.49.16 LEN=328 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=16 ID=57121 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:00:32 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179992.208000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:00:40 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180000.196000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:00:59 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180019.196000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:01:09 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180029.196000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:01:27 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180047.196000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 SYSLOG Feb 11 22:05:14 mouille-laptop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 69.12.242.58 port 67 Feb 11 22:05:14 mouille-laptop dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted Feb 11 22:05:14 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180274.188000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:05:17 mouille-laptop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 69.12.242.58 port 67 Feb 11 22:05:17 mouille-laptop dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted Feb 11 22:05:17 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180277.180000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:05:25 mouille-laptop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 69.12.242.58 port 67 Feb 11 22:05:25 mouille-laptop dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted Feb 11 22:05:25 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180285.180000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Feb 11 22:05:37 mouille-laptop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 69.12.242.58 port 67 Feb 11 22:05:37 mouille-laptop dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted Feb 11 22:05:37 mouille-laptop kernel: [17180297.180000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.100 DST=69.12.242.58 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 >From: Mario Vukelic >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:21:57 +0100 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 14:33 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > It's happens quite often. > >Please check out the log files when the problem just happened. Open them >with a text editor (menu Applications/Text Editor) or with "less >" on the command line. Then look at the last entries at the >end of the files. >The interesting files would be /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/messages, >and /var/log/syslog. > >If the problem is your machine (as opposed to the router) we might find >something in the logs > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 06:17:53 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:17:53 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on XP. >> What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the >> providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any >> recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot > test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total > washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never > has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a > static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... Linux definitely support static IPs... See http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html If wireless isn't working, either your card doesn't have a driver or you configured it wrong. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 06:21:47 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:21:47 -0800 Subject: DSL I'm not on wireless In-Reply-To: <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> Message-ID: >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:17:53 -0500 > >John Dangler wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > >> If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on >XP. > >> What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the > >> providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any > >> recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > > I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot > > test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total > > washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never > > has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a > > static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... > >Linux definitely support static IPs... See >http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html > >If wireless isn't working, either your card doesn't have a driver or you >configured it wrong. > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Mon Feb 12 06:33:16 2007 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:16 +1100 Subject: TV with Kubuntu Message-ID: I spent a productive afternoon retro-working my Kubuntu from 6.10 back to 6.06. (See my earlier comments/emails about nvidia problems.) Now I seem to have it working ... together with automatix2 ... for all the missing bits ... I tried my tv receptions (Leadtek DTV100T). This used to work smoothly under Kafein ... but the picture is now a set of stills ... with blurred action. Hellp!!! Thanks for advice. Richard Irena and Richard Jenkins Canberra, Australia ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 06:36:35 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:36:35 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you instuctions for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. I don't see a Ethernet connection Dennis >From: NoOp >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:36 -0800 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Matthew > > I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. > > This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? > > Thank you much - Dennis > > > > mouille at mouille-laptop:~$ ifconfig > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:D8:EA:67:CF > > inet addr:208.106.49.16 Bcast:208.106.49.255 >Mask:255.255.254.0 > > inet6 addr: fe80::211:d8ff:feea:67cf/64 Scope:Link > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > > RX bytes:952 (952.0 b) TX bytes:1184 (1.1 KiB) > > Interrupt:225 > > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:5F:F9:5E > > inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 >Mask:255.255.255.0 > > inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe5f:f95e/64 Scope:Link > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:63 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > > RX bytes:5143 (5.0 KiB) TX bytes:1895 (1.8 KiB) > > Interrupt:177 Base address:0x4000 Memory:fbffa000-fbffafff > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:84 (84.0 b) TX bytes:84 (84.0 b) > >As someone has already pointed out, you can connect to your DSL provider >via linux, Windoze, or whatever. It does not matter to the DSL provider; >what does matter is that your interface is set up properly. If you can >connect with windows, my guess is that you have your eth interfaces set >up wrong. > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:D8:EA:67:CF > > inet addr:208.106.49.16 Bcast:208.106.49.255 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Before you do the following, log into your DSL modem/router and check >the DNS settings (perhaps log into 192.168.1.1 from your browser?) - >don't change them, just write down what they are. You can also do this >in Windows if you can't from linux just yet. I'm guessing from the above >IP that you are using c-net and your DNS should be: > >Primary DNS: >63.172.74.211 >Secondary DNS: >63.172.74.203 > >See: http://www.c-zone.net/settings.php > >In Ubuntu >Go to System|Administration|Networking >and bring up the network settings interface. > >From the above it appears that you have two NIC's in the laptop. You >only need one, so for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and >deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > Now click on the eth1 interface and the "DNS" tab. Add your DNS IP's. >and click OK. > Now go back to the Connections tab & click on the Properties for eth1. >Check to see if the connection settings are set for "DHCP". Click OK. >At the bottom of the page you'll see: "Default gateway device", make >sure that it is set to eth1. Click OK. > >Now bring up your browser (Firefox?) and try to connect to your DSL >modem and/or Google. Does it work? If not, you might want power down >your laptop, reboot your DSL modem (power down for 30 sec or more), wait >another 30 sec and then power up your laptop & boot back into linux and >then try again. > >If that doesn't work, then try doing the same using eth0 instead of >eth1. Just remember to only have one active at a time while you are >troubleshooting. > >If neither work, then try using a fixed IP rather than DHCP. It could be >that your modem/router isn't issuing a proper IP address and using a >fixed IP will work instead... say 192.168.1.103, or perhaps a different >subnet, say 192.168.4.103. > >That's my 2 cents... good luck & hope that helps. > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 07:09:18 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:09:18 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 01:17 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > >> If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on XP. > >> What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the > >> providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any > >> recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > > I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot > > test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total > > washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never > > has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a > > static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... > > Linux definitely support static IPs... See > http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html > > If wireless isn't working, either your card doesn't have a driver or you > configured it wrong. ipw2100 drivers have been supported by Linux for quite some time... I have no problem getting this to work under DHCP when I'm on the road (at hotels, airports, etc) iwconfig = lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 unassociated ESSID:"mgj_ventures" Nickname:"ipw2100" Mode:Managed Channel=0 Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate=0 kb/s Tx-Power:off Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 sit0 no wireless extensions. ----------------- wireless config in System ->Networks: (profile = office_wireless, which is eth0: inactive, eth1: active) Network Name: (ESSID): mgj_ventures Key type: Hexadecimal WEP Key: Connection Settings: Configuration: Static IP Address IP Address: 192.168.2.38 Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway address: 192.168.2.1 DSL Modem IP: 192.168.1.1 Router IP: 192.168.1.2 Wireless Router IP: 102.168.2.1 The Router is enabled for Static IP addresses (I have an XP box with a USB54G adapter that works fine, and is on static) The only part that I found suspect is that the router is using channel 6 in its config, and iwconfig reports channel 0. If that's the problem, how can I tell iwconfig to use the same channel? If you think that you can help me to get this to work, I would be extremely grateful... > > Matthew Flaschen > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 07:28:33 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:28:33 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > ----------------- > wireless config in System ->Networks: > (profile = office_wireless, which is eth0: inactive, eth1: active) > > Network Name: (ESSID): mgj_ventures > Key type: Hexadecimal > WEP Key: > > Connection Settings: > Configuration: Static IP Address > IP Address: 192.168.2.38 > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > Gateway address: 192.168.2.1 > > DSL Modem IP: 192.168.1.1 > Router IP: 192.168.1.2 > Wireless Router IP: 102.168.2.1 > > The Router is enabled for Static IP addresses (I have an XP box with a > USB54G adapter that works fine, and is on static) That network's weird, I think. You have a static IP of 192.168.2.38, and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 . All good so far. But then you say your wireless router has an IP of 102.168.2.1 . Is that a typo, because that's not a standard internal address? Anyway, your gateway address should match the wireless router IP. If that really is your wireless router address, I think you should change the static IP to 102.168.2.38 and the gateway to 102.168.2.1 . > The only part that I found suspect is that the router is using channel 6 > in its config, and iwconfig reports channel 0. If that's the problem, > how can I tell iwconfig to use the same channel? I should clarify that my wireless card doesn't have a libre driver, so I'm not using wireless on (K)ubuntu myself. Apparently: iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From custom at freenet.de Mon Feb 12 07:39:06 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:39:06 +0700 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171265946.4981.18.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:13 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Patrick Newberry wrote: > > http://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter_archives.php?id=40 > > > > > > Any thoughts on this partnership? Click and run (CNR) in ubuntu? > Not a fan. Just makes it easier for proprietary software to creep into > an OS that is supposed Nothing is 'creeping' into Ubuntu unless you specifically choose to want it there. But it's good news. It's the second 'distro-that-sucks' to get Ubuntified. First was Mepis, now Freespire. Tomorrow the world. Cheers, Chanchao From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 07:51:18 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:51:18 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <45D017DC.2050700@gatech.edu> Message-ID: not so on edgy - thanks anyway click eth0, then click Deactivate. >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:40 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you > > instuctions > > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > >I think (I'm using Kubuntu so I can't vouch for this) that he wants you >to go to System-Administration-Networking , click eth0, then click >Deactivate. > >Then, if that doesn't work (try restarting then opening a website), you >would reactivate it, then deactivate the other (eth1). > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 From alexufscar at yahoo.com.br Mon Feb 12 07:54:55 2007 From: alexufscar at yahoo.com.br (Alex (aka Majin)) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Missing "genksyms" in the "module-init-tools" package? Message-ID: <49414.90687.qm@web53106.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, everyone! This is my first mail to this list, I'm new to Ubuntu (currently using 6.10 Edgy Eft), and English is not my native language, so please be patient :) Is it normal for the "genksyms" script not to be included in the "module-init-tools" package? I've noticed the absence of it when trying to compile the driver for my Intel-537EP Winmodem. That is very strange because every other place I've visited (e.g. Linux From Scratch) tells me that "genksyms" is part of "module-init-tools" for the 2.6.x kernel versions. Installing the "modutils" package (suitable only for 2.4.x kernels) doesn't solve the problem as the "-a" parameter, which is required by the installation process, is available only in newer versions of the script. Please, could you help me? Thanks a lot! __________________________________________________ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 08:15:05 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:15:05 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 02:28 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > ----------------- > > wireless config in System ->Networks: > > (profile = office_wireless, which is eth0: inactive, eth1: active) > > > > Network Name: (ESSID): mgj_ventures > > Key type: Hexadecimal > > WEP Key: > > > > Connection Settings: > > Configuration: Static IP Address > > IP Address: 192.168.2.38 > > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > > Gateway address: 192.168.2.1 > > > > DSL Modem IP: 192.168.1.1 > > Router IP: 192.168.1.2 > > Wireless Router IP: 102.168.2.1 > > > > The Router is enabled for Static IP addresses (I have an XP box with a > > USB54G adapter that works fine, and is on static) > > That network's weird, I think. You have a static IP of 192.168.2.38, > and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 . All good so far. But then you say your > wireless router has an IP of 102.168.2.1 . Is that a typo, because > that's not a standard internal address? Anyway, your gateway address > should match the wireless router IP. If that really is your wireless > router address, I think you should change the static IP to 102.168.2.38 > and the gateway to 102.168.2.1 . Why 102? The internal net is 192... > > > The only part that I found suspect is that the router is using channel 6 > > in its config, and iwconfig reports channel 0. If that's the problem, > > how can I tell iwconfig to use the same channel? > > I should clarify that my wireless card doesn't have a libre driver, so > I'm not using wireless on (K)ubuntu myself. > > Apparently: > > iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D > > (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported (I have the keys turned off in the router at the moment) > Matthew Flaschen > From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 08:17:36 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:17:36 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171268256.10534.41.camel@croatus> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:51 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > not so on edgy - thanks anyway > click eth0, then click > Deactivate. On Edgy - System -> Networks Select eth0, select the properties button. Inside you'll see a check box that says "Enable this connection"... Uncheck the box > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:40 -0500 > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you > > > instuctions > > > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > > > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > > > >I think (I'm using Kubuntu so I can't vouch for this) that he wants you > >to go to System-Administration-Networking , click eth0, then click > >Deactivate. > > > >Then, if that doesn't work (try restarting then opening a website), you > >would reactivate it, then deactivate the other (eth1). > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your > Live.com page. > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 08:18:30 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:18:30 -0500 Subject: Missing "genksyms" in the "module-init-tools" package? In-Reply-To: <49414.90687.qm@web53106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <49414.90687.qm@web53106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45D022D6.2040506@gatech.edu> Alex (aka Majin) wrote: > Hello, everyone! > This is my first mail to this list, I'm new to Ubuntu (currently using 6.10 Edgy Eft), and English is not my native language, so please > be patient :) You're English is fine. :) > Is it normal for the "genksyms" script not to be included in the "module-init-tools" package? I've noticed the absence of it when trying to compile the driver for my Intel-537EP Winmodem. That is very strange because every other place I've visited (e.g. Linux From Scratch) tells me that "genksyms" is part of "module-init-tools" for the 2.6.x kernel versions. > Installing the "modutils" package (suitable only for 2.4.x kernels) doesn't solve the problem as the "-a" parameter, which is required by > the installation process, is available only in newer versions of the script. I did a search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/#search_packages and it looks like you want to install linux-headers-generic (http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/linux-headers-generic). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 08:22:13 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:22:13 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 02:28 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> John Dangler wrote: >>> ----------------- >>> wireless config in System ->Networks: >>> (profile = office_wireless, which is eth0: inactive, eth1: active) >>> >>> Network Name: (ESSID): mgj_ventures >>> Key type: Hexadecimal >>> WEP Key: >>> >>> Connection Settings: >>> Configuration: Static IP Address >>> IP Address: 192.168.2.38 >>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 >>> Gateway address: 192.168.2.1 >>> >>> DSL Modem IP: 192.168.1.1 >>> Router IP: 192.168.1.2 >>> Wireless Router IP: 102.168.2.1 >>> >>> The Router is enabled for Static IP addresses (I have an XP box with a >>> USB54G adapter that works fine, and is on static) >> That network's weird, I think. You have a static IP of 192.168.2.38, >> and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 . All good so far. But then you say your >> wireless router has an IP of 102.168.2.1 . Is that a typo, because >> that's not a standard internal address? Anyway, your gateway address >> should match the wireless router IP. If that really is your wireless >> router address, I think you should change the static IP to 102.168.2.38 >> and the gateway to 102.168.2.1 . > Why 102? The internal net is 192... I know! Your original posting has 102, which is what bewilders me. I was recommending changes to make your network consistent (if strange and possibly vulnerable). >> Apparently: >> >> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D >> >> (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. > > iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns > Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L > SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported I believe that's a limitation of the card or driver. The man page says "All these parameters and statistics are device dependent. Each driver will provide only some of them depending on hardware support, and the range of values may change." Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 08:37:02 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:37:02 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171269422.10534.45.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 03:22 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 02:28 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> John Dangler wrote: > >>> ----------------- > >>> wireless config in System ->Networks: > >>> (profile = office_wireless, which is eth0: inactive, eth1: active) > >>> > >>> Network Name: (ESSID): mgj_ventures > >>> Key type: Hexadecimal > >>> WEP Key: > >>> > >>> Connection Settings: > >>> Configuration: Static IP Address > >>> IP Address: 192.168.2.38 > >>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > >>> Gateway address: 192.168.2.1 > >>> > >>> DSL Modem IP: 192.168.1.1 > >>> Router IP: 192.168.1.2 > >>> Wireless Router IP: 102.168.2.1 > >>> > >>> The Router is enabled for Static IP addresses (I have an XP box with a > >>> USB54G adapter that works fine, and is on static) > >> That network's weird, I think. You have a static IP of 192.168.2.38, > >> and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 . All good so far. But then you say your > >> wireless router has an IP of 102.168.2.1 . Is that a typo, because > >> that's not a standard internal address? Anyway, your gateway address > >> should match the wireless router IP. If that really is your wireless > >> router address, I think you should change the static IP to 102.168.2.38 > >> and the gateway to 102.168.2.1 . > > Why 102? The internal net is 192... > > I know! Your original posting has 102, which is what bewilders me. I > was recommending changes to make your network consistent (if strange and > possibly vulnerable). wow.. sorry about that... i must have fat-fingered the number... it's definitely 192. > >> Apparently: > >> > >> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D > >> > >> (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. > > > > iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns > > Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L > > SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported > > I believe that's a limitation of the card or driver. The man page says > "All these parameters and statistics are device dependent. Each driver > will provide only some of them depending on hardware support, and the > range of values may change." yikes! I'll have to see if I can, in fact, change that channel with ipw2100... If not, I'm doomed to only DHCP for wireless on this laptop. So, the next step would be figuring out if I can setup my router to handle both IP and dhcp at the same time (I saw some info somewhere on the net to that effect, but my strong suit is application and database architecture/design/development, not networking)... > > Matthew Flaschen > From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 08:32:29 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:32:29 +0100 Subject: RTSP conntrack Message-ID: Hi there, Is that module available into Ubuntu Edgy kernel ? If not, is there a way to get it on my system ? Any hep is welcome :) From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Feb 12 08:42:31 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:42:31 -0800 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45CFF1FA.7000204@gatech.edu> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> <45CD039B.8020408@gatech.edu> <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> <45CFEF60.2090303@dmiyu.org> <45CFF1FA.7000204@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45D02877.8010702@dmiyu.org> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > I'm having trouble accessing your file. I'll take your word for it, > though. I guess Ubuntu doesn't have as good power support for your > laptop. Is it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops ? Yes, Dell Latitude CPx. Apparently it has good enough support to detect my lid being close din the dock and blanking my monitor. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 08:45:15 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:45:15 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <1171269422.10534.45.camel@croatus> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> <1171269422.10534.45.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D0291B.3070203@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: >>> Why 102? The internal net is 192... >> I know! Your original posting has 102, which is what bewilders me. I >> was recommending changes to make your network consistent (if strange and >> possibly vulnerable). > wow.. sorry about that... i must have fat-fingered the number... it's > definitely 192. That's okay. I figured that was what you meant. It looks okay then. >>>> Apparently: >>>> >>>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D >>>> >>>> (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. >>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns >>> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L >>> SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported >> I believe that's a limitation of the card or driver. The man page says >> "All these parameters and statistics are device dependent. Each driver >> will provide only some of them depending on hardware support, and the >> range of values may change." > yikes! I'll have to see if I can, in fact, change that channel with > ipw2100... If not, I'm doomed to only DHCP for wireless on this laptop. Channel doesn't have anything do with DHCP. Why can't you change the channel on the wireless router? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 08:49:48 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:48 -0500 Subject: "Laptop lid closed, blanking screen" In-Reply-To: <45D02877.8010702@dmiyu.org> References: <45C85359.8030103@dmiyu.org> <45C91BA9.6040605@gatech.edu> <45C98A09.6050301@dmiyu.org> <45CD039B.8020408@gatech.edu> <45CD4D15.3020909@dmiyu.org> <45CE194A.2070208@gatech.edu> <45CFEF60.2090303@dmiyu.org> <45CFF1FA.7000204@gatech.edu> <45D02877.8010702@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <45D02A2C.6030800@gatech.edu> Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> I'm having trouble accessing your file. I'll take your word for it, >> though. I guess Ubuntu doesn't have as good power support for your >> laptop. Is it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops ? > > Yes, Dell Latitude CPx. Apparently it has good enough support to detect > my lid being close din the dock and blanking my monitor. ;) I'm sorry. I really don't have any more ideas. You might look into APM and ACPI. These are the (generally) relevant technologies. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 09:01:55 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:01:55 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171268256.10534.41.camel@croatus> Message-ID: I went to System-Networking which takes me to Network Settings,. There are four tabs: Connections, General, DNS, Host. (no networks) and I don't see a eth0. I going crazy. What am I missing?? Dennis >From: John Dangler >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:17:36 -0500 > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:51 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > not so on edgy - thanks anyway > > click eth0, then click > > Deactivate. >On Edgy - >System -> Networks >Select eth0, select the properties button. Inside you'll see a check >box that says "Enable this connection"... >Uncheck the box > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:40 -0500 > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you > > > > instuctions > > > > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > > > > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > > > > > >I think (I'm using Kubuntu so I can't vouch for this) that he wants you > > >to go to System-Administration-Networking , click eth0, then click > > >Deactivate. > > > > > >Then, if that doesn't work (try restarting then opening a website), you > > >would reactivate it, then deactivate the other (eth1). > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on >your > > Live.com page. > > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 09:10:32 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:10:32 +0100 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <1171265946.4981.18.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <1171265946.4981.18.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: > But it's good news. It's the second 'distro-that-sucks' to get > Ubuntified. First was Mepis, now Freespire. Tomorrow the world. Ubuntu is great, but isn't going to save the world or anything... and Linspire and Mepis have both had a pretty good reputation for addressing the market they try and get into. Let's be fair to the distros that have also done some good work. Duncan. From pd.yates at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 09:11:02 2007 From: pd.yates at gmail.com (Peter Yates) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:11:02 +0000 Subject: [Update] Ruby on Rails install In-Reply-To: <1171053216.14202.263.camel@localhost> References: <1171051380.14202.260.camel@localhost> <1171053216.14202.263.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Hi John, did you run 'gem update' first? On 09/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 15:03 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > > I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS and am in the process of installing ruby and > > rails. > > > > I've been following the Dapper installation setup at > > > http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake > > > > 2 questions... > > > > During this process (sudo ruby setup.rb) > > I notice it says that it is removing > > Removing old RubyGems RDoc and ri... > > and installing updated versions. > > Should I pin those apps in Synaptic to avoid conflicts? > > > > After that installation is complete, the next step says this: > > sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies > > > > And, this is what I get - > > Bulk updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org > > ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::GemNotFoundException) > > Could not find rails (> 0) in any repository > Odd. The second time I tried this command, it worked. Now, the only > _glitch_ seems to be during install of actionpack through gem. I get - > > gymsmoke at croatus:~/rubygems-0.9.2$ sudo gem install actionpack > Successfully installed actionpack-1.13.2 > Installing ri documentation for actionpack-1.13.2... > > lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1061:30: ':' not followed by identified > or operator > > lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1065:39: ':' not followed by identified > or operator > Installing RDoc documentation for actionpack-1.13.2... > > lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1061:30: ':' not followed by identified > or operator > > lib/action_controller/routing.rb:1065:39: ':' not followed by identified > or operator > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any ideas how to fix this? regards, thomas From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 09:51:13 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:51:13 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <45D0291B.3070203@gatech.edu> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> <1171269422.10534.45.camel@croatus> <45D0291B.3070203@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171273873.10534.48.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 03:45 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > >>> Why 102? The internal net is 192... > >> I know! Your original posting has 102, which is what bewilders me. I > >> was recommending changes to make your network consistent (if strange and > >> possibly vulnerable). > > wow.. sorry about that... i must have fat-fingered the number... it's > > definitely 192. > > That's okay. I figured that was what you meant. It looks okay then. > > >>>> Apparently: > >>>> > >>>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D > >>>> > >>>> (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. > >>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns > >>> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L > >>> SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported > >> I believe that's a limitation of the card or driver. The man page says > >> "All these parameters and statistics are device dependent. Each driver > >> will provide only some of them depending on hardware support, and the > >> range of values may change." > > yikes! I'll have to see if I can, in fact, change that channel with > > ipw2100... If not, I'm doomed to only DHCP for wireless on this laptop. > > Channel doesn't have anything do with DHCP. Why can't you change the > channel on the wireless router? The channels on the wireless equate to different frequencies, and the only channel that I can get any decent signal on at all is channel 6 (it defaults to channel 11, but even the doze box doesn't work on that one). > > Matthew Flaschen > From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 09:52:22 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:52:22 -0500 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171273942.10534.50.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 01:01 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > I went to System-Networking which takes me to Network Settings,. There are > four tabs: Connections, General, DNS, Host. (no networks) and I don't see a > eth0. I going crazy. What am I missing?? > Dennis Under Connections, do you see something labeled "Wired Connection" ?? > > >From: John Dangler > >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > >general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:17:36 -0500 > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:51 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > not so on edgy - thanks anyway > > > click eth0, then click > > > Deactivate. > >On Edgy - > >System -> Networks > >Select eth0, select the properties button. Inside you'll see a check > >box that says "Enable this connection"... > >Uncheck the box > > > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:40 -0500 > > > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you > > > > > instuctions > > > > > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > > > > > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > > > > > > > >I think (I'm using Kubuntu so I can't vouch for this) that he wants you > > > >to go to System-Administration-Networking , click eth0, then click > > > >Deactivate. > > > > > > > >Then, if that doesn't work (try restarting then opening a website), you > > > >would reactivate it, then deactivate the other (eth1). > > > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on > >your > > > Live.com page. > > > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >ubuntu-users mailing list > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline > > From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 12 09:55:36 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:55:36 +0100 Subject: DSL References: Message-ID: <008001c74e8b$f5aaca60$0600000a@mcetest> I use belkin no problems mine is over 3 years old now ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Castanos" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:58 AM Subject: Re: DSL > If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on XP. > What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the > providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any > recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > Dennis > > >>From: John Dangler >>Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >>general discussions" >>To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> >>Subject: Re: DSL >>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 >> >>On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I >>switch >> > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, but >>the >> > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only command >>he >> > help me with was >> > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf >> > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. >> > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a >> > contract. >>The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't let >>your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on >>it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... >>If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and it >>works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, then >>it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've >>gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to >>send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. >> > Dennis >> > >> > >> > >From: Wade Smart >> > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >> > >general discussions" >> > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> > > >> > >Subject: Re: DSL >> > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 >> > > >> > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 >> > > >> > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying >> > >their >> > >tech support doesnt support linux? >> > > >> > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. >> > >They just supply a IP address. >> > > >> > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you a >> > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? >> > > >> > >wade >> > > >> > > >> > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The >>same >> > >thing >> > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a >> > >problem. I >> > > > will just deal with it. >> > > > thanks for you time, Dennis >> > > > >> > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen >> > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >>discussions" >> > > > > >> > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> > > > > >> > > > >Subject: Re: DSL >> > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 >> > > > > >> > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are >>correct. >> > > > > >> > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be >>wrong. >> > > > > >> > > > >Matthew Flaschen >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ><< signature.asc >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >-- >> > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list >> > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > > > >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with >>people >> > > > you know >> > > > >> > >> >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >ubuntu-users mailing list >> > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows >> > Live >> > Spaces >> > >>http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us >> > >> > >> >> >>-- >>ubuntu-users mailing list >>ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > something more. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 12 09:59:57 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:59:57 +0100 Subject: DSL References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <009601c74e8c$909d62d0$0600000a@mcetest> Why not remove the static then? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dangler" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: Re: DSL > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on >> XP. >> What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the >> providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any >> recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot > test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total > washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never > has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a > static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... > >> Dennis >> >> >> >From: John Dangler >> >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >> >general discussions" >> >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> > >> >Subject: Re: DSL >> >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 >> > >> >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I >> >switch >> > > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, >> > > but >> >the >> > > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only >> > > command >> >he >> > > help me with was >> > > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf >> > > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. >> > > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a >> > > contract. >> >The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't let >> >your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on >> >it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... >> >If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and it >> >works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, then >> >it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've >> >gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to >> >send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. >> > > Dennis >> > > >> > > >> > > >From: Wade Smart >> > > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not >> > > >for >> > > >general discussions" >> > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: DSL >> > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 >> > > > >> > > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 >> > > > >> > > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying >> > > >their >> > > >tech support doesnt support linux? >> > > > >> > > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. >> > > >They just supply a IP address. >> > > > >> > > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell you >> > > >a >> > > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? >> > > > >> > > >wade >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. The >> >same >> > > >thing >> > > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never a >> > > >problem. I >> > > > > will just deal with it. >> > > > > thanks for you time, Dennis >> > > > > >> > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen >> > > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >> >discussions" >> > > > > > >> > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL >> > > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:26 -0500 >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: >> > > > > > > Do you mean DHCP as in modem, router. my IP addresses are >> >correct. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >I think your router is dropping your laptop's IP, but I could be >> >wrong. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Matthew Flaschen >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ><< signature.asc >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >-- >> > > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list >> > > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > > > > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with >> >people >> > > > > you know >> > > > > >> > > >> > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >-- >> > > >ubuntu-users mailing list >> > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows >> > > Live >> > > Spaces >> > > >> >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >ubuntu-users mailing list >> >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into >> something more. >> http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG >> >> > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From alain.muls at telenet.be Mon Feb 12 10:19:13 2007 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:19:13 +0100 Subject: Problems mounting samba shares Message-ID: <200702121119.13591.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi, After the recent update of some packages, I am no longer allowed to execute the smbmount command as a user. I had the same problem before, but I was able to resolve the problem by setting the 's' bit on the smbmount command. This allowed me to use the media button in KDE to mount the samba share. But with the update, it is no longer allowed to do setuid 's' on smbmount, so I cannot use the kde-applet media any longer. The same problem occured with the ubuntu PC of my son, he can no longer use the gnome applet (I do not knwo its name) to mount as a normal user this same samba share. Any solution?? Tx/Alain From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 10:30:03 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:30:03 -0500 Subject: Wireless - Was [Re: DSL] In-Reply-To: <1171273873.10534.48.camel@croatus> References: <1171260200.10534.19.camel@croatus> <45D00691.2060006@gatech.edu> <1171264158.10534.32.camel@croatus> <45D01721.50101@gatech.edu> <1171268105.10534.39.camel@croatus> <45D023B5.1040007@gatech.edu> <1171269422.10534.45.camel@croatus> <45D0291B.3070203@gatech.edu> <1171273873.10534.48.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171276203.10534.62.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 04:51 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 03:45 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > John Dangler wrote: > > >>> Why 102? The internal net is 192... > > >> I know! Your original posting has 102, which is what bewilders me. I > > >> was recommending changes to make your network consistent (if strange and > > >> possibly vulnerable). > > > wow.. sorry about that... i must have fat-fingered the number... it's > > > definitely 192. > > > > That's okay. I figured that was what you meant. It looks okay then. > > > > >>>> Apparently: > > >>>> > > >>>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 key BADF00D > > >>>> > > >>>> (BADFOOD should be replaced with your key) does it though. > > >>> iwconfig eth1 essid mgj_ventures channel 6 - returns > > >>> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency (8B04)L > > >>> SET failed on device eth1; Operation not supported > > >> I believe that's a limitation of the card or driver. The man page says > > >> "All these parameters and statistics are device dependent. Each driver > > >> will provide only some of them depending on hardware support, and the > > >> range of values may change." > > > yikes! I'll have to see if I can, in fact, change that channel with > > > ipw2100... If not, I'm doomed to only DHCP for wireless on this laptop. > > > > Channel doesn't have anything do with DHCP. Why can't you change the > > channel on the wireless router? > The channels on the wireless equate to different frequencies, and the > only channel that I can get any decent signal on at all is channel 6 (it > defaults to channel 11, but even the doze box doesn't work on that one). Very odd... I put the wireless into dhcp mode instead of static ip. Updated the configuration. No change. Restarted networking. No change. Went to a command line and typed iwconfig mode Ad-Hoc. My signal indicator on the desktop jumped to 100%! I still can't ping anything at all (not even the router), so the conclusion is - Linux will NOT work wireless (IPW2100) in static IP mode. So, I need to be able to have the router handle both static and dhcp simultaneously... Does anyone know whether this is possible? I have a Linksys WRVS4400N router > > > > > Matthew Flaschen > > > > From ben at cvrse.com Mon Feb 12 10:41:34 2007 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:41:34 +1100 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <1171260312.10534.21.camel@croatus> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> <45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> <1171260312.10534.21.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070212104134.GA5494@vaio.cvrse.com> * John Dangler wrote: > If you are using static IP's and get wireless working, please reply to > the list and let us (read - me), know how you did it. I have a wireless > on my Linux laptop with a static IP that has never worked under Ubuntu > (5.04/5.10/6.06) I use static IPs here at home over wireless and all that was required to set it up was add the network details into /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking. /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.138 wireless-essid MYESSID wireless-key MYKEY auto eth1 $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart $ iwconfig eth1 eth1 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"MYESSID" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:17:9A:D6:CE:E4 Bit Rate:48 Mb/s Tx-Power:15 dBm Retry limit:15 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality=88/100 Signal level=-47 dBm Noise level=-48 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:872 Missed beacon:0 $ ifconfig eth1 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:02:69:E6:12 inet addr:192.168.0.55 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:2ff:fe69:e612/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:37357 errors:0 dropped:872 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:34421601 (32.8 MiB) TX bytes:1201389 (1.1 MiB) Interrupt:185 Base address:0xe000 Memory:cc000000-cc000fff -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl Mon Feb 12 10:48:40 2007 From: Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl (Joris Dobbelsteen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:48:40 +0100 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> >-----Original Message----- >From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of >Matthew Flaschen >Sent: zondag 11 februari 2007 9:35 >To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions >Subject: Re: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership > >Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >> I think it's the price Ubuntu has to pay for being a mainstream OS. > >I guess the question is, is Ubuntu's goal, "A majority of the >PC's for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu" >(as Bug 1 [https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1] says), or >simple dominance? > > People >> would be >> needing a lot of applications to suite their needs, and if >Open Source >> isn't yet feasible for these kinds of applications, there's no other >> choice but to turn to proprietary software or drivers. >> Or wait for the open source version. > >Or contribute to the creation of free replacements, and >realize that most likely these needs are actually just wishes. Naïve. Too bad people earn money from selling groceries. Instead they should charge for the plastic carrying bag that goes with it, that is, if people desire. Who wants to make money if they can have the pleasure of investing..eh giving it away instead. Your really thing there will be free software beating the top-of-the-line products? If so, which (and when)? - Joris From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 12 11:50:39 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:50:39 +0100 Subject: Wifi Devices References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com><45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> <1171260312.10534.21.camel@croatus> <20070212104134.GA5494@vaio.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <013501c74e9c$06ae4f20$0600000a@mcetest> When I first installed my belkin card with my toshiba laptop. I had static ip, my router did not respond. Changed my card to dhcp worked a treat. HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben darby" To: ; "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Wifi Devices > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 12:14:13 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:14:13 -0500 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <013501c74e9c$06ae4f20$0600000a@mcetest> References: <509d63b70702092218m57c7b18dw67116d35b1e69fe7@mail.gmail.com> <45CFFEA0.9070506@oz.net> <1171260312.10534.21.camel@croatus> <20070212104134.GA5494@vaio.cvrse.com> <013501c74e9c$06ae4f20$0600000a@mcetest> Message-ID: <1171282453.10534.75.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 12:50 +0100, Trevor Nye wrote: > When I first installed my belkin card with my toshiba laptop. I had static > ip, my router did not respond. Changed my card to dhcp worked a treat. presumably you set up the router for static ip as well, and then set the router for dhcp (otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised that it didn't work) I can get eth1 to recognize the network, but it just doesn't want to log on... > > HTH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ben darby" > To: ; "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general > discussions" > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: Wifi Devices > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 12 12:28:39 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:28:39 +0100 Subject: Wifi Devices In-Reply-To: <1171282453.10534.75.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702121228.l1CCSdOG008896@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> presumably you set up the router for static ip as well, and then set the router for dhcp (otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised that it didn't work) [Trevor Nye] No it was a "feature" of the router. Static "no work" dhcp "work" that is what I found.... HTH From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Mon Feb 12 13:01:53 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:01:53 +1100 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <20070213000153.4989a9b8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:48:40 +0100 "Joris Dobbelsteen" wrote: > Your really thing there will be free software beating the top-of-the-line products? If so, which (and when)? Apache. Right now. 66-70% is a pretty good "market" share I'd say ... But then, maybe it isn't "beating" top-of-the-line products, since it is already "top-of-the-line" . Got any more flame-bait you'd like to post ? ;-) From johnke7cw at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 12 13:09:36 2007 From: johnke7cw at sbcglobal.net (John) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:09:36 -0500 Subject: Software Security Device? Message-ID: <1171285776.6080.9.camel@TheCave> When I sign on to my Bank , I get a Software Security Device window asking for my master password. I do not remember ever entering a password. I don't mind being asked if I had entered one. I would like to try to change the password but don't know how to do that. I may well be that Linux did not create this problem. Any help in solving this annoyance would be greatly appreciated. This may be more of a problem being started by the boot loading program. 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In-Reply-To: <1171285776.6080.9.camel@TheCave> References: <1171285776.6080.9.camel@TheCave> Message-ID: <20070212141522.62d28d67@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [John @ Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:09:36 -0500] > I do not remember ever entering a password. I don't mind being asked > if I had entered one. I would like to try to change the password but > don't know how to do that. I may well be that Linux did not create > this problem. Any help in solving this annoyance would be greatly > appreciated. The "software security device" is likely to be Firefox's cryptographic module responsible for storing any passwords you entered into some web site in a way at least modestly "secure". You can use the "Security" part of Firefox's configuration options to set a master password or (more recommendable) stay away from storing any sort of login information in your browser after all. :) Cheers & best, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF0GhxcxBAPOA1m6wRAsd5AJ0cnSb/hGKk0AxAOVH9qtDaySKzzwCfWyRt qTOAiwz/h/846BP7LMHU0o4= =7jAN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sergicles at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 14:05:48 2007 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:05:48 +1100 Subject: New kernel updates and VMWare server Message-ID: <1680c5ca0702120605u5496cb58va61fb83e4f204a93@mail.gmail.com> Just a little reminder to everybody that has recently did system upgrade via apt. If you have updated your kernel image (dist-upgrade) and your VMWare Server has automagically stopped working it means that you need to realign the kernel headers package to the current kernel version and re-run VMWare Server installer... -- Serg From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Mon Feb 12 14:16:00 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:16:00 +0000 Subject: Boot menu. In-Reply-To: <1171286042.6080.15.camel@TheCave> References: <1171286042.6080.15.camel@TheCave> Message-ID: <20070212141600.GI8261@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (12/02/07 08:14), John wrote: > In turning on the desktop computer when the Boot menu comes up it has > three lisitngs for linux and two for windowsXP. How do I change that > menu? The editor seems to show the single linux and windowXP enteries > but not the others in the screen menu. Any help will be appreciated. $ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst should do it Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 14:49:21 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:49:21 +0100 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <20070213000153.4989a9b8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <20070213000153.4989a9b8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Oh Peter, I tried so hard to resist naming anything like Firefox for example, but now you've started ... No really, this list isn't for advocacy - as you said it's Flame bait. Duncan From PNewberry at habitat.org Mon Feb 12 14:46:02 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:46:02 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc><20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net><20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc><20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu><20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu><20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> I installed apache, php5 and mysql via apt-get Php commands like echo etc run fine but I get an error when I try to connect to a mysql database. Googling I found that mysql and php5 are no longer bundled together. In the PHP manual it mentions: Use the --with-mysql[=DIR] configure option I am assuming that this is located somewhere in the php.ini file? Is there anything else I should consider or check out when I go home tonight to try to get php5 to work with mysql? Background: I did install via apt-get: The following NEW packages will be installed: libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql php5-mysqli I did not install Suggested packages: php-pear But I can. Pat Newberry www.gypsyfarm.com From pubmb01 at skynet.be Mon Feb 12 14:58:13 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:58:13 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? Message-ID: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> Hello, is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? Are there some packages ? Which ? Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... . sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: selinux-policy-default ...etc... /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 . Many thanks for any clue. Bye, Bruno From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 12 14:18:55 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:18:55 -0400 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: David Liu wrote: > I recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell Laptop Model 640m-n which has a > 16:9 LCD. 16:10, actually :-) > Its resolution should be 1280x800. But in my Screen resolution > config in XFCE only provide me a 1024x768. I check my xorg.conf, there > is only one resolution - 1280x800. Any other config file should I > modify? > > Any reply is appreciated! If it's the Intel graphics, you could try the attached xorg.conf - it's pretty simple, and works fine for me. Otherwise, if "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" doesn't help you, then: gtf 1280 800 60 Paste the results into xorg.conf wherever "Modeline" statements have to go (I can't remember), and then reference "Mode 1280x800_60.00" in your xorg.conf instead of "Mode 1024x768". You should NOT need that ugly 915resolution hack for a Dell. -- derek -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 12 14:27:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:27:59 -0400 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: Joris Dobbelsteen wrote: > Your really thing there will be free software beating the top-of-the-line > products? If so, which (and when)? Now. KDE/Windows. PostGreSQL/Oracle (they're different markets, admittedly, but I use both and for almost all my needs I prefer PostGreSQL). There is plenty of OSS that "beats" commercial top-of-the-line products. It's a matter of filling users needs. The commercial products often try to do far too much because they need to meet the needs of all. Quicken, my only concession to Windows, is a case in point. All I need is the ability to balance my books, download the transactions from the web, and fill in a few forms for the government. In the end, there are at least 3 OSS products that do the first as well as Quicken (GnuCash, SQLLedger and KMyMoney), they all promise OFX file imports (I haven't tested them, though) and nobody has a way to print the government forms I need (but the OSS products could be extended). I'd have moved to SQLLedger already if the damn thing wasn't written in Perl! -- derek From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 15:20:24 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:20:24 +0800 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > Hello, > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work if there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. you would have to install the specific policy, since selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and selinux-policy-targeted. Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and reboot) BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since chage is disallowed to change user priorities. Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. I think permissive mode does have effects. > . > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > selinux-policy-default > ...etc... > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory > make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > . > > Many thanks for any clue. > Bye, > Bruno > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Carpe Diem From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 12 14:10:25 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:10:25 -0400 Subject: useful utilities References: <1171169411.19816.3.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > I was reading through some pages on different utilities, and came across > gparted. Are there a lot of people in the Ubuntu community using this? > > (I'm on Edgy at the moment, have a single hard drive (80Gb), and intend > to load vmware server for a win setup (and possibly some others)... > > Any input (pro or con) is appreciated I find it so rare that I ever play with partitions that I don't keep partition editors on my system. I grab what I need when I need it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 12 15:11:49 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:11:49 -0400 Subject: New kernel updates and VMWare server References: <1680c5ca0702120605u5496cb58va61fb83e4f204a93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Serg B. wrote: > Just a little reminder to everybody that has recently did system > upgrade via apt. > > If you have updated your kernel image (dist-upgrade) and your VMWare > Server has automagically stopped working it means that you need to > realign the kernel headers package to the current kernel version and > re-run VMWare Server installer... I thought as much - which concerns me since vmware-player doesn't seem to have been updated. -- derek From dennismouille at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 15:51:29 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:51:29 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: <1171273942.10534.50.camel@croatus> Message-ID: yes there is down/up arrow with a default of Automatic Configuration. The one and only other choice is stactic IP address. I have to go to work but I'm going to say on top of this problem. Your help and time is much appreciated Dennis >From: John Dangler >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for >general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:52:22 -0500 > >On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 01:01 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I went to System-Networking which takes me to Network Settings,. There >are > > four tabs: Connections, General, DNS, Host. (no networks) and I don't >see a > > eth0. I going crazy. What am I missing?? > > Dennis >Under Connections, do you see something labeled "Wired Connection" ?? > > > > > >From: John Dangler > > >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not for > > >general discussions" > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:17:36 -0500 > > > > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:51 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > not so on edgy - thanks anyway > > > > click eth0, then click > > > > Deactivate. > > >On Edgy - > > >System -> Networks > > >Select eth0, select the properties button. Inside you'll see a check > > >box that says "Enable this connection"... > > >Uncheck the box > > > > > > > > >From: Matthew Flaschen > > > > >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >discussions" > > > > > > > > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: DSL > > > > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:40 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > > > > > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on >you > > > > > > instuctions > > > > > > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > > > > > > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > > > > > > > > > >I think (I'm using Kubuntu so I can't vouch for this) that he wants >you > > > > >to go to System-Administration-Networking , click eth0, then click > > > > >Deactivate. > > > > > > > > > >Then, if that doesn't work (try restarting then opening a website), >you > > > > >would reactivate it, then deactivate the other (eth1). > > > > > > > > > >Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more >on > > >your > > > > Live.com page. > > > > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >ubuntu-users mailing list > > >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline > > > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 15:55:16 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:55:16 -0500 Subject: Problems mounting samba shares In-Reply-To: <200702121119.13591.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200702121119.13591.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: <45D08DE4.1090305@gatech.edu> Alain Muls wrote: > Hi, > > After the recent update of some packages, I am no longer allowed to execute > the smbmount command as a user. Normally, mount allows user mounts with the user command in /etc/fstab. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html . I added user to my fstab but I still couldn't mount an smb share. I get the message: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) smbmnt failed: 1 When I actually try to make smbmnt suid root, I get the message: "cannot mount on /prism: Operation not permitted" for the correct smb password, and for the incorrect password: 31300: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) SMB connection failed I'd be interested in some illumination of this issue too. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't see a way to remove it. >From: "Trevor Nye" >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: , "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >discussions" >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:59:57 +0100 > >Why not remove the static then? >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Dangler" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:03 AM >Subject: Re: DSL > > > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:58 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > >> If the operating system has nothing to do with it, why does it work on > >> XP. > >> What is running doze. I rather purchase a new modem than deal with the > >> providers, although I will try to get them to swith this one out. Any > >> recommendation for a DSL Ubuntu Linux router? > > I'm running a Linksys 4400N. Cabled systems work fine, but I cannot > > test wireless, since wireless (for me) under Ubuntu has been a total > > washout... My laptop (Dell8600/IPW2100) just won't connect, and never > > has under either Breezy or Dapper. The reasoning is because I have a > > static IP on my laptop, which apparently in Linux is a no-no... > > > >> Dennis > >> > >> > >> >From: John Dangler > >> >Reply-To: jdangler at atlantic.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,not >for > >> >general discussions" > >> >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: DSL > >> >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:40:15 -0500 > >> > > >> >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:12 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > >> > > It's a DSL modem. The tech support doesn't support linux. When I > >> >switch > >> > > providers a tech told me he uses linux and it would run just find, > >> > > but > >> >the > >> > > don't give support for it. When I told him my problem the only > >> > > command > >> >he > >> > > help me with was > >> > > sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf > >> > > When I had my lines checked AT&T says they don't support it either. > >> > > WESTELL - Model 890-220030-0481 which I puchased to avoid signing a > >> > > contract. > >> >The DSL modem has NOTHING to do with what OS you're running. Don't >let > >> >your isp tell you that. install vmnware-server, install some M$ OS on > >> >it, and call them back and tell them you're running doze... > >> >If you can cable direct to the dsl modem (no router in between), and >it > >> >works ok, then it's the router settings. If it still doesn't work, >then > >> >it's probably the dsl modem. I never turn my DSL modem off, and I've > >> >gone through 3 of them in 6 years with my isp. I always get them to > >> >send me a new one when one starts acting flaky. > >> > > Dennis > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >From: Wade Smart > >> > > >Reply-To: wadesmart at gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,not > >> > > >for > >> > > >general discussions" > >> > > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: DSL > >> > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:50:15 -0600 > >> > > > > >> > > >02112007 2011 GMT-6 > >> > > > > >> > > >You mean they tell they dont support linux or you are just saying > >> > > >their > >> > > >tech support doesnt support linux? > >> > > > > >> > > >Either way - you CAN get online whether they say you can or not. > >> > > >They just supply a IP address. > >> > > > > >> > > >What modem are you using? Look on the bottom of it. It will tell >you > >> > > >a > >> > > >name and model number. Is it DSL or cable? > >> > > > > >> > > >wade > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 18:08 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > >> > > > > I switch Internet provider a week ago. No support for linux. >The > >> >same > >> > > >thing > >> > > > > was happening with the other. As I mention before XP is never >a > >> > > >problem. 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View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 16:01:12 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:01:12 -0500 Subject: firewall Message-ID: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> I've been using firestarter for my iptables maintenance, but have heard a lot of chatter about firehol. Anyone on the list have a preference for one over the other? (I hand-wrote my iptables rulesets for my server, but for the workstation and laptop, I just want to be a _user_) From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 16:10:18 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:10:18 +0000 Subject: New kernel updates and VMWare server In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702120605u5496cb58va61fb83e4f204a93@mail.gmail.com> References: <1680c5ca0702120605u5496cb58va61fb83e4f204a93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D0916A.8060706@manchester.ac.uk> Serg B. wrote: > Just a little reminder to everybody that has recently did system > upgrade via apt. > > If you have updated your kernel image (dist-upgrade) and your VMWare > Server has automagically stopped working it means that you need to > realign the kernel headers package to the current kernel version and > re-run VMWare Server installer... Re-running /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl should be sufficient followed by /etc/init.d/vmware start. All as root, of course. I also had to delete the file /etc/vmware/not-configured for the server console to work. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From michael_staar at earthlink.net Mon Feb 12 16:13:39 2007 From: michael_staar at earthlink.net (Staar) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:13:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Modem Problem Message-ID: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. When I looked up the device it indicates the following: HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) Vendor: Conexant HCF 56K Data/Fax... OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads page on linuxant.com (http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2) that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? Any info would be greatly appreciated... Thanks, Mike From philipp.esselbach at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 16:16:29 2007 From: philipp.esselbach at gmail.com (Philipp Esselbach) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:16:29 +0100 Subject: Introducing the CompatDB.org project Message-ID: <629e85010702120816p6e92638du5771cf89f8e39830@mail.gmail.com> Hello Everyone, My name is Philipp Esselbach and I created the http://www.linuxcompatible.org website back in 2002. The idea behind Linux Compatible was to create a user submitted hardware/software compatibility list for Linux. While I thought that it was a good idea in the first place, it appeared later to worked not so well. A few other websites even started their own compatibility lists in attempt to making better compatibility lists then the Linux Compatible one, which ended up that we have nowadays a few user submitted compatibility lists split all over the Internet, none of them nearly complete. I came 2005 to the conclusion that website based compatibility lists would never worked for an operating system like Linux, so I came up with the idea of CompatDB.org. CompatDB.org is not another compatibility website, it is more an attempt to create a free standard for user submitted compatibility list. Both the XML based CompatDB.org document format as well the compatibility data are released under the terms of the LGPL. The initial CompatDB.org Linux compatibility data based on the LGPL'd parts of the Linux Compatible compatibility list. Unfortunately, all data before Summer 2005 are not under the LGPL and thus not included. The current specifications of the CompatDB.org 1.0 XML document format can found here – http://www.compatdb.org/specs-1.0.txt and daily snapshots of the compatibility lists here - http://www.compatdb.org/page9.html. CompatDB.org is currently supporting 30 Linux distributions as well Windows and Mac OS (both separate lists) I believe CompatDB.org is a first step in the right direction but nowhere nearly perfect. I hope to find other enthusiasts that like to want participate in this project. I think that this project can grow, but only with an active community that brings in new ideas. Thanks for your time, Philipp Esselbach http://www.compatdb.org From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 12 16:16:51 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:16:51 -0800 Subject: Software Security Device? In-Reply-To: <1171285776.6080.9.camel@TheCave> References: <1171285776.6080.9.camel@TheCave> Message-ID: John wrote: > When I sign on to my Bank , I get a Software Security Device window > asking for my master password. > > I do not remember ever entering a password. I don't mind being asked if > I had entered one. I would like to try to change the password but don't > know how to do that. I may well be that Linux did not create this > problem. Any help in solving this annoyance would be greatly > appreciated. > > This may be more of a problem being started by the boot loading program. > I just do not have the expertise of solving this problem. > > It's a security feature in Mozilla/FF/TB/SM etc: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Feb 12 16:33:49 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:33:49 -0500 Subject: install dir Message-ID: <1171298029.10534.86.camel@croatus> I have mysql-server 5 installed on my Edgy machine. I just downloaded the gui tool kit from mysql, and the installation says to untar the tarball (which includes mysqladmin, workbench, and a couple of other pieces-parts) into /opt. mySQL installs to /usr/share/mysql . Since I want to keep my outside apps somewhat "Ubuntu-esque", could I install the gui-toolkit into /usr/share/mysql? - looking at the tarball, everything in it sources from mysql-gui-tools-5.0/ ... Thanks for the input From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 16:38:31 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:38:31 -0500 Subject: Boot menu. In-Reply-To: <20070212141600.GI8261@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <1171286042.6080.15.camel@TheCave> <20070212141600.GI8261@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: I noticed that too... when GRUB comes up, I have multiple kernels for linux. I am still new to this, how do I go in and remove the old one, not just remove it from the menu? Or do I want to leave it there? Chris On 2/12/07, Clive Menzies wrote: > > On (12/02/07 08:14), John wrote: > > In turning on the desktop computer when the Boot menu comes up it has > > three lisitngs for linux and two for windowsXP. How do I change that > > menu? The editor seems to show the single linux and windowXP enteries > > but not the others in the screen menu. Any help will be appreciated. > > $ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst > > should do it > > Regards > > Clive > > -- > www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... > ...strategies for business > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 12 16:39:05 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:39:05 -0800 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dennis Castanos wrote: > I thank you for help. I;m using edgy and only got to here on you > instuctions > for starters click on Ethernet connection for eth0 and > deactivate it by clicking on the "Deactivate" button. > > I don't see a Ethernet connection > Dennis > > Perhaps these will help: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Networking http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 12 17:08:34 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:08:34 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <20070212120834.1ff430e9@chisel> Patrick Newberry wrote: > I installed apache, php5 and mysql via apt-get > > Php commands like echo etc run fine but I get an error when I try to > connect to a mysql database. What error exactly? > > Googling I found that mysql and php5 are no longer bundled together. > > In the PHP manual it mentions: > Use the --with-mysql[=DIR] configure option > > I am assuming that this is located somewhere in the php.ini file? Actually, no, I believe they're referring to a compile time directive that tells the php5 configure script where to find the mysql developer libraries. The versions you have installed should work together just fine. > > Is there anything else I should consider or check out when I go home > tonight to try to get php5 to work with mysql? Almost certainly. Start with examining the error message for any clues beyond "it doesn't work". ;-) You haven't said whether or not you've set up MySQL administrative or host access, or even checked to see if it's bound to a proper port:interface... What's your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file have in it for a bind-address? What does the output of 'netstat -tap' tell you about mysql, if anything? What do the outputs of 'hostname' and 'hostname -f' say? Have you issued commands similar to these to set up MySQL? mysqladmin -u root password mysqladmin -h server1.example.com password You said you're trying to "connect to a database". Have you set up this database? Does it actually exist at all? Have you properly assigned ownership and accessed it with the correct password? It's not really enough to just install the software, it needs a little bit of configuring. :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From alex at got-root.me.uk Mon Feb 12 17:15:19 2007 From: alex at got-root.me.uk (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:15:19 +0000 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution In-Reply-To: References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> Message-ID: <45D0A0A7.50501@got-root.me.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > You should NOT need that ugly 915resolution hack for a Dell. > Unfortunately you *do* need that ugly 915 hack... when testing Ubuntu, Gentoo and Fedora on my other Inspiron 6400 that was the only way to get the graphic's the 1280x800 way. When installed you shouldn't even notice that it's there as it'll run with init at startup way before you get to starting x.org. Alex p.s. I'll note here that this was around 3 months ago, so it may have changed, but from my experiences the above is true. From pubmb01 at skynet.be Mon Feb 12 17:13:17 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:13:17 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: <200702121813.17592.pubmb01@skynet.be> On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > Hello, > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only > works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work if > there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > selinux-policy-targeted. > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and > reboot) > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I > tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since > chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd > dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > . > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > selinux-policy-default > > ...etc... > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory > > make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > . > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > Bye, > > Bruno > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- > Carpe Diem I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add selinux=1 as a kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. However getenforce allways return disabled. How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place after reboot. Thanks, Bruno From pubmb02 at skynet.be Mon Feb 12 17:36:11 2007 From: pubmb02 at skynet.be (Bruno) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:36:11 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: <200702121813.17592.pubmb01@skynet.be> References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702121813.17592.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: <200702121836.12015.pubmb02@skynet.be> On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only > > works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work if > > there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and > > reboot) > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I > > tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since > > chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd > > dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > . > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree > > > Reading state information... Done > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > selinux-policy-default > > > ...etc... > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory > > > make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > . > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > Bye, > > > Bruno > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > > Carpe Diem > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add selinux=1 as a > kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > However getenforce allways return disabled. > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place after > reboot. > > Thanks, > Bruno It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in /var/log/messages : ... Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a ro quiet splash selinux=1 SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability ... but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux start does'nt complete. Bye, Bruno From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 17:51:43 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:51:43 -0500 Subject: Boot menu. In-Reply-To: References: <1171286042.6080.15.camel@TheCave> <20070212141600.GI8261@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: Oh! Thanks a ton for the help! Should I just search for it in synaptic/adept, or is it in a specific place? Sorry, realize the questions are rather simple, but I'll catch up I promise. On 2/12/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Chris a écrit : > > I noticed that too... when GRUB comes up, I have multiple kernels for > linux. > > > > I am still new to this, how do I go in and remove the old one, not just > > remove it from the menu? Or do I want to leave it there? > > > > Chris > > To remove the old one, remove the package (via command line or Synaptic) > The name is "linux-image-xxxxxx". That's the recommended way to do it , > since it also clean up your installation. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 18:34:43 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:34:43 +0100 Subject: Boot menu. In-Reply-To: References: <1171286042.6080.15.camel@TheCave> <20070212141600.GI8261@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: Chris a écrit : > Oh! Thanks a ton for the help! > > Should I just search for it in synaptic/adept, or is it in a specific place? > > Sorry, realize the questions are rather simple, but I'll catch up I promise. > :) There is no hurry , don't rush, it's normal that you have question and things you don't know. Every one do :) well , in synaptic/adept, search for "linux-image". You'll get a list of available kernel, if you want to know the kernel you're running, type on the command line "uname -r". that might be the kernel you wanna keep. Then, between synaptic/adept results, you'll find your last kernel installed. you can remove it . From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 18:42:04 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:42:04 -0500 Subject: linuxoperation In-Reply-To: <000601c74e2a$425b9680$59966e58@acerzxy76m1imk> References: <000601c74e2a$425b9680$59966e58@acerzxy76m1imk> Message-ID: <45D0B4FC.7070206@gatech.edu> gbas wrote: > I am interested in using the Linux system, however after accessing your site and spending some considerable time in going round in circles I am emailing as a desperate last measure Please sign up (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users) for the ubuntu-users mailing list. That is the proper forum for technical support. I'm CCing them in this reply. > I would like to know for example , how to set up an Internet connection and other general usage. Please be more specific. Let's start with the Internet. A few questions: Can this computer access the net through Windows? How are you connected (wireless, wired, dial-up etc.)? Do you have broadband? Does the network use a router? What is the model of your computer (and network card if you know it)? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chombee at nerdshack.com Mon Feb 12 18:44:43 2007 From: chombee at nerdshack.com (chombee) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:44:43 +0000 Subject: Any animation software for kids? Message-ID: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> Got this message today, it's from an organiser at my university who is arranging workshops run by postgrads for local primary schools. I would like to recommend some software, anyone know of anything? --- Hi David, Sean and Ianthe Is any of you good with animations? I had an idea for one hour workshop (repeated 4 times a day, 5-9 April). Basically, I would like kids to be able to create animations starting from one of their own drawings (made on the computer) while at the same time learning something about computing. Do you have any ideas as to how I might implement this? Do you know of a software package I could use? Thanks in advance. From matt.price at utoronto.ca Mon Feb 12 18:46:49 2007 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:46:49 -0500 Subject: nvidia and external projector: user-specific issues?? Message-ID: <1171306009.5983.20.camel@localhost> hi, I have a dell latitude d820 which is currently running feisty and the most recent nvidia drivers (nv apparently doesn't support the use of the external vga out, so I pretty much have to use nvidia). Using nvidia-settings and twinview I can easily switch configurations on my laptop if a crt is attached (crt off, crt left/right of built-in screen, crt cloning built-in). However if I try to do the same with the hitachi projector they uei n my building, I get an error message from the projector -- somehting like "error in sync rates. fSync: 95kHz vSync: 60Hz." [this could be inaccurate, wasn't taking notes in the room] My xorg.conf is somewhat complex and cluttered with remnants of earlier unsuccessful attempts to get this working, but I tried editing the HorizSnc/VertSync and (in the nvidia device section) SecondMonitorHorizSync and SecondMonitorVertSync. But this didn't work. In fesperation, I created a new user and tried running the slideshow from that user. presto! it worked. but I can't for the life of me figure out why! I didn't at that point have much opportunity to fool around, but I did delete my .nvidiasettings-rc in the original user's home dir, to no effect. So what's going on? How can the *user settings* be responsible for some sync issue of this kind? one other thing that crosses my mind: my original user was running gnome, with beryl-manager running as well; the new user automatically logged in under xfce for some reason. didn'thave a chance to test out the original user in xfce unfortunately, will do so afte next presentation. but anyway: can anyone think of what might be at issue here? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 12 18:47:09 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:47:09 -0400 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> <45D0A0A7.50501@got-root.me.uk> Message-ID: Alex Smith wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> You should NOT need that ugly 915resolution hack for a Dell. >> > Unfortunately you *do* need that ugly 915 hack... when testing Ubuntu, > Gentoo and Fedora on my other Inspiron 6400 that was the only way to get > the graphic's the 1280x800 way. I don't use it. On a fresh edgy install just before Christmas, mine was supported right away - avoiding the hard work I went to to set it up last year. Some people have indeed been unable to use it without 915resolution, but it _is_ an ugly hack and should be used only as a last resort. > When installed you shouldn't even notice that it's there as it'll run > with init at startup way before you get to starting x.org. Indeed, but I don't think it's worth messing with run-time kernel patches - which is what this seems to be - if there are other alternatives. -- derek From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Mon Feb 12 19:06:34 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:06:34 +0000 Subject: Any animation software for kids? In-Reply-To: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> Message-ID: <20070212190634.GC11862@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (12/02/07 18:44), chombee wrote: > Got this message today, it's from an organiser at my university who is > arranging workshops run by postgrads for local primary schools. I would > like to recommend some software, anyone know of anything? > > --- > > Hi David, Sean and Ianthe > > Is any of you good with animations? > > I had an idea for one hour workshop (repeated 4 times a day, 5-9 > April). > Basically, I would like kids to be able to create animations starting > from one of their own drawings (made on the computer) while at the same > time learning something about computing. > > Do you have any ideas as to how I might implement this? > > Do you know of a software package I could use? > > Thanks in advance. There is gimp-gap which I've not used: Description: The GIMP Animation Package GAP is a collection of plug-ins to extend the GIMP with capabilities to edit and create animations and movies as sequences of single frames. It adds a Video menu to image windows in the GIMP. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 19:29:34 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:29:34 +0100 Subject: Any animation software for kids? In-Reply-To: <20070212190634.GC11862@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> <20070212190634.GC11862@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: you might also want to see that http://kidzdom.com/tutorials/ ;) http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54 for the fun Actually, people use flash for making cartoons (see http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ ) From ckasso at sprynet.com Mon Feb 12 19:34:59 2007 From: ckasso at sprynet.com (Chris Kassopulo) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:34:59 -0500 Subject: Any animation software for kids? References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:44:43 +0000, chombee wrote: > Got this message today, it's from an organiser at my university who is > arranging workshops run by postgrads for local primary schools. I would > like to recommend some software, anyone know of anything? > > --- > > Hi David, Sean and Ianthe > > Is any of you good with animations? > > I had an idea for one hour workshop (repeated 4 times a day, 5-9 April). > Basically, I would like kids to be able to create animations starting from > one of their own drawings (made on the computer) while at the same time > learning something about computing. > > Do you have any ideas as to how I might implement this? > > Do you know of a software package I could use? > > Thanks in advance. Squeak is an opensource Smalltalk environment that strives to be kid friendly. Check out Squeak's E-Toys. There is a large educational user base. Ask questions on comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.squeakland. Chris From larry at isp.com Mon Feb 12 19:33:33 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:33 -0600 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <45D0C10D.9010502@isp.com> Staar wrote: > First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. > > When I looked up the device it indicates the following: > HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) > Vendor: > Conexant > HCF 56K Data/Fax... > OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. > > Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads page on linuxant.com (http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2) that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? > > Any info would be greatly appreciated... > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > Is your modem a serial port type, or what...??? I have a Data/Fax/Modem Best Data so when I setup my ppp dialup, when it ask's me to autodetect, it does the same as yours...So I manually install it using ttyS0, and it has worked for years now... If it is an external serial modem, then go through each ttyS port, you can use minicom also to access your modem...Hopefully it isn't a win modem, for most all of those do not work in linux... Hope this helps... Good luck, Larry -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Feb 12 20:19:23 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:19:23 +0100 Subject: DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171311563.5247.11.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 22:15 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > KERN.LOG > Feb 11 21:56:21 mouille-laptop kernel: [17179741.284000] Unknown > InputIN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:18:de:72:2e:ab:08:00 > SRC=192.168.1.102 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=211 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 > ID=14896 PROTO=UDP SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=191 You are running a firewall on this computer? You didn't tell ... You should turn it off before we try debugging further. If it works without the firewall, then we can proceed to debug that. If disabling the firewall doesn't help either, then at least we know that this was not it > SYSLOG > Feb 11 22:05:14 mouille-laptop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 69.12.242.58 > port 67 > Feb 11 22:05:14 mouille-laptop dhclient: send_packet: Operation not > permitted Who is 69.12.242.58 ? From linuxhamuser at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 20:30:30 2007 From: linuxhamuser at gmail.com (Johnny) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:30:30 -0600 Subject: sound card problem is a isapnp card Message-ID: <45D0CE66.3060805@gmail.com> How can I get the isa sound card to work it shows that it there in the dmesg that it is a AW37 Pro ad1848/cs4248 on 0x534 irq=5 dma=1-3 I have tried alsaconf and it can't find it I have tried insmod ad1848 or snd-1848 it cant find it I have modprobe ad1848 and snd-1848 cant find it What else do I need to try and do Johnny -- ******************************* ******************************* Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 Ubuntu User number is # 11285 Registed Linux user #310190 Registed Machine #250193 ******************************* ******************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 20:34:46 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:34:46 +0100 Subject: Any animation software for kids? In-Reply-To: References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> <20070212190634.GC11862@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <1171312486.5823.5.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 20:29 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Actually, people use flash for making cartoons (see > http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ Why isn't f4l in the Ubuntu Repositories? Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michael_staar at earthlink.net Mon Feb 12 21:06:47 2007 From: michael_staar at earthlink.net (Staar) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:06:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Modem Problem Message-ID: <12924397.1171314407868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The modem is a pci card. I read some articles indicating that most of these do not work properly. I was just curious as to why it worked on Xandros but not Ubuntu. When it did work it never achieved anything close to a 56K connection. After reading some articles today, it sounds like I'd need to pay for one of the linux drivers to achieve 56K and it would only be compatible with the version I'm running now. I went out at lunch and purchased an external modem with a serial connection. Hopefully that takes care of the problem. Are there better applications to use to establish/terminate dial-up connections? This pc is for a total newbie with absolutely no experience with linux or windows. I chose /dev/modem as the location. I also tried all the ttyS*. When selecting the ttyS* ports, it did not return any errors but would not dial either. I'm guessing that ttyS refers to the different Serial connections available. -----Original Message----- >From: larry >Sent: Feb 12, 2007 2:33 PM >To: Staar , "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" >Subject: Re: Modem Problem > >Staar wrote: >> First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. >> >> When I looked up the device it indicates the following: >> HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) >> Vendor: >> Conexant >> HCF 56K Data/Fax... >> OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. >> >> Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads page on linuxant.com (http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2) that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? >> >> Any info would be greatly appreciated... >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Mike >> >> >Is your modem a serial port type, or what...??? > >I have a Data/Fax/Modem Best Data so when I setup my ppp dialup, when it >ask's me to autodetect, it does the same as yours...So I manually >install it using ttyS0, and it has worked for years now... > >If it is an external serial modem, then go through each ttyS port, you >can use minicom also to access your modem...Hopefully it isn't a win >modem, for most all of those do not work in linux... > >Hope this helps... > >Good luck, Larry > >-- >Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux >by Ubuntu ver 6.10 >73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. > >"This is Linux Country, >on a quiet night you can hear >WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" > >GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E >Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net > From ogra at ubuntu.com Mon Feb 12 21:10:25 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:10:25 +0100 Subject: XDMCP remote stopped working In-Reply-To: <1171078207.6196.4.camel@CompaqEVO> References: <1171078207.6196.4.camel@CompaqEVO> Message-ID: <1171314625.6996.159.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Fr, 2007-02-09 at 21:30 -0600, Jeff wrote: > When I updated to Edgy from Dapper, XDMCP remote stopped working. I > upgraded two computers. One is doing XDMCP remote fine. The other is > not. I am attempting to connect from a Windows machine, using Cygwin > or Xming. The blank screen with "X" appears on the machine that stopped > working. > > Any ideas? did you edit the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf file directly when you enabled it ? this file is not supposed to be edited by hand and gets overwritten during upgrades... ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Feb 12 21:19:30 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:19:30 +0100 Subject: Any animation software for kids? In-Reply-To: <1171312486.5823.5.camel@localhost> References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> <20070212190634.GC11862@clivemenzies.co.uk> <1171312486.5823.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow wrote the following on 12.02.2007 21:34: >> http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ > Why isn't f4l in the Ubuntu Repositories? most probably because it´s not in debian either. http://packages.debian.org/f4l > Duncan bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From jair.donadelli at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 22:36:21 2007 From: jair.donadelli at gmail.com (jair donadelli) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:36:21 -0200 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6fffdd2d0702121436v58d64336ucd3549e843ceb693@mail.gmail.com> Try http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html Jair On 2/12/07, Staar wrote: > > First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my > ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he > could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check > email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping > out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), > but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, > Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not > Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt > to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. > > When I looked up the device it indicates the following: > HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) > Vendor: > Conexant > HCF 56K Data/Fax... > OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. > > Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads > page on linuxant.com ( > http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2) > that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could > explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be > trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and > would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a > different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry > about a different driver every time I change distros? > > Any info would be greatly appreciated... > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Mon Feb 12 22:37:58 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:37:58 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I really like FireHOL. It is capable of some very complex things but is quite simple to setup. I have all my firewall rules including IP masquerading in a configuration file that is 32 lines long and written in a very easy to understand scripting language. There are some supplemental service definition files I use for my specific set of rules, but they are very easy to understand as well and are each only 3 lines. Just my personal preference, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF0OxGG9IpekrhBfIRAo1dAJ0eaL89mx4LiHUFyx+T4sEUzflwfQCgp607 5zMvU+6fuFRA3LmYfxxKWQo= =5rLY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Feb 12 22:49:16 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:49:16 -0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Tony Arnold writes: > It therefore becomes a question of degrees of trust. A document that has > been signed with a key that has also been signed by a number of people > increases that degree of trust, but as you say does not guarantee > authorship. A signature based on a key that has not been signed by > anybody is much less trustworthy. I don't see how the number of people signing a key makes it more trustworthy unless you know at least one of the person who signed (and then you only actually need that one person's signing). A bad guy could just generate a bunch of new keys to sign the one key you are looking at. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 23:27:22 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:27:22 +0100 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad a écrit : > Tony Arnold writes: > >> It therefore becomes a question of degrees of trust. A document that has >> been signed with a key that has also been signed by a number of people >> increases that degree of trust, but as you say does not guarantee >> authorship. A signature based on a key that has not been signed by >> anybody is much less trustworthy. > > I don't see how the number of people signing a key makes it more > trustworthy unless you know at least one of the person who signed (and > then you only actually need that one person's signing). A bad guy could > just generate a bunch of new keys to sign the one key you are looking > at. > The way I understand it is just like Certificates use with SSL. The trust you put on a key depends on the security organization you are in. So I may have a key signed by the security team of my company, that key is trustworthy for anyone in that company but outside that company, it's not valuable at all. That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to check the authority behind that key. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 12 23:36:05 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:36:05 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <45D0F9E5.7050707@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > John L Fjellstad a écrit : >> Tony Arnold writes: >> >>> It therefore becomes a question of degrees of trust. A document that has >>> been signed with a key that has also been signed by a number of people >>> increases that degree of trust, but as you say does not guarantee >>> authorship. A signature based on a key that has not been signed by >>> anybody is much less trustworthy. >> I don't see how the number of people signing a key makes it more >> trustworthy unless you know at least one of the person who signed (and >> then you only actually need that one person's signing). A bad guy could >> just generate a bunch of new keys to sign the one key you are looking >> at. >> > The way I understand it is just like Certificates use with SSL. The > trust you put on a key depends on the security organization you are in. > So I may have a key signed by the security team of my company, that key > is trustworthy for anyone in that company but outside that company, it's > not valuable at all. > That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there > mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to > check the authority behind that key. That's a valid point, but you can at least be sure we're signing with a consistent key, and thus a consistent (though possibly fake) identity. That's useful (though not as useful as associating with a verified identity). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From albertwagner at cox.net Tue Feb 13 00:22:46 2007 From: albertwagner at cox.net (Albert Wagner) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:22:46 -0600 Subject: Any animation software for kids? In-Reply-To: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> Message-ID: <45D104D6.6090405@cox.net> chombee wrote: > Got this message today, it's from an organiser at my university who is > arranging workshops run by postgrads for local primary schools. I would > like to recommend some software, anyone know of anything? > Alice.. http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Programming-Using-Alice/dp/1418836257/sr=1-1/qid=1171326018/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-6162018-6883605?ie=UTF8&s=books From gyrotech at freakinabox.com Tue Feb 13 00:59:40 2007 From: gyrotech at freakinabox.com (GyroTech) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:59:40 +0000 Subject: e2fsck on lvm problems Message-ID: <45D10D7C.60701@freakinabox.com> I have an lvm2 fs (ext3) that I'm trying to mount. I need to do an e2fsck on it but something seems to be breaking the fixes. fsck.ext3 -f /dev/LVM/store brings back lots of Group xxxx's block bitmap (yyyyyyyyyy) is bad. Relocate? Group xxxx's inode bitmap (yyyyyyyyyy) is bad. Relocate? for lots of groups, close to 1000. I allow the relocate each time. then a lot of Error allocating 1 contiguous block(s) in block group xxxx for block bitmap: Could not allocate block in ext2 filesystem Error allocating 1 contiguous block(s) in block group xxxx for inode bitmap: Could not allocate block in ext2 filesystem For the same groups as before. Then it goes on to make the 2, 3, 4 passes without problem. Then I fix block bitmap differences and inode bitmap differences. Then I get a warning that the file system was modified but still has errors. I've tried running a bad block check with -c -cc -ck options but nothing seems to be able to help. Is this file system totally fubar'd now?? Thanks for any advice. From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 01:17:04 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:17:04 -0500 Subject: clam bails during install on edgy Message-ID: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> evening, all... New Edgy install... sudo apt-get install clamtk clamav-docs unrar Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam libbit-vector-perl libcarp-clan-perl libclamav1 libdate-calc-perl libfile-find-rule-perl libgmp3c2 libnumber-compare-perl libtext-glob-perl sharutils Suggested packages: lha mailx Recommended packages: arj unzoo The following NEW packages will be installed: clamav clamav-base clamav-docs clamav-freshclam clamtk libbit-vector-perl libcarp-clan-perl libclamav1 libdate-calc-perl libfile-find-rule-perl libgmp3c2 libnumber-compare-perl libtext-glob-perl sharutils unrar 0 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 8349kB of archives. After unpacking 12.2MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe libclamav1 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [271kB] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libgmp3c2 2:4.2.1+dfsg-3 [432kB] Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-base 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [175kB] Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-freshclam 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [5911kB] Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main sharutils 1:4.2.1-15 [111kB] Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libtext-glob-perl 0.06-3 [7938B] Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libnumber-compare-perl 0.01-3 [6068B] Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libfile-find-rule-perl 0.30-1 [29.9kB] Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libcarp-clan-perl 5.3-4 [10.5kB] Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libbit-vector-perl 6.4-4 [145kB] Get:11 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libdate-calc-perl 5.4-4 [249kB] Get:12 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe clamtk 2.24-0ubuntu1 [37.0kB] Get:13 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse unrar 1:3.5.4-0.1 [86.7kB] Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [67.4kB] Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-docs 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [810kB] Fetched 8349kB in 55s (149kB/s) Preconfiguring packages ... Selecting previously deselected package libgmp3c2. (Reading database ... 124799 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libgmp3c2 (from .../libgmp3c2_2%3a4.2.1+dfsg-3_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libclamav1. Unpacking libclamav1 (from .../libclamav1_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package clamav-base. Unpacking clamav-base (from .../clamav-base_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package clamav-freshclam. Unpacking clamav-freshclam (from .../clamav-freshclam_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package clamav. Unpacking clamav (from .../clamav_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package sharutils. Unpacking sharutils (from .../sharutils_1%3a4.2.1-15_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package clamav-docs. Unpacking clamav-docs (from .../clamav-docs_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libtext-glob-perl. Unpacking libtext-glob-perl (from .../libtext-glob-perl_0.06-3_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libnumber-compare-perl. Unpacking libnumber-compare-perl (from .../libnumber-compare-perl_0.01-3_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libfile-find-rule-perl. Unpacking libfile-find-rule-perl (from .../libfile-find-rule-perl_0.30-1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libcarp-clan-perl. Unpacking libcarp-clan-perl (from .../libcarp-clan-perl_5.3-4_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libbit-vector-perl. Unpacking libbit-vector-perl (from .../libbit-vector-perl_6.4-4_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libdate-calc-perl. Unpacking libdate-calc-perl (from .../libdate-calc-perl_5.4-4_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package clamtk. Unpacking clamtk (from .../clamtk_2.24-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package unrar. Unpacking unrar (from .../unrar_1%3a3.5.4-0.1_i386.deb) ... Setting up libgmp3c2 (4.2.1+dfsg-3) ... Setting up libclamav1 (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... Setting up clamav-base (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... Adding system user `clamav' with uid 110... Adding new group `clamav' (116). Adding new user `clamav' (110) with group `clamav'. Not creating home directory `/var/lib/clamav'. dpkg: error processing clamav-base (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamav-freshclam: clamav-freshclam depends on clamav-base (= 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1); however: Package clamav-base is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing clamav-freshclam (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamav: clamav depends on clamav-freshclam | clamav-data; however: Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet. Package clamav-data is not installed. Package clamav-freshclam which provides clamav-data is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing clamav (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up sharutils (4.2.1-15) ... Setting up clamav-docs (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... Setting up libtext-glob-perl (0.06-3) ... Setting up libnumber-compare-perl (0.01-3) ... Setting up libfile-find-rule-perl (0.30-1) ... Setting up libcarp-clan-perl (5.3-4) ... Setting up libbit-vector-perl (6.4-4) ... Setting up libdate-calc-perl (5.4-4) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamtk: clamtk depends on clamav (>= 0.83); however: Package clamav is not configured yet. clamtk depends on clamav-freshclam (>= 0.83); however: Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing clamtk (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up unrar (3.5.4-0.1) ... Errors were encountered while processing: clamav-base clamav-freshclam clamav clamtk E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Then, when I run Applications -> Accessories -> Virus Scanner, I get this on startup: Warning: No virus definitions found! If you are sure you have definitions installed, please inform the developer where your definitions are held so the paths can be added. Has anyone else encountered this, and is it a 'feature' for launchpad ? From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 01:24:56 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:24:56 -0500 Subject: [UPDATE] Re: clam bails during install on edgy In-Reply-To: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> References: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171329896.10534.99.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 20:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > evening, all... > > New Edgy install... > > sudo apt-get install clamtk clamav-docs unrar > Password: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam libbit-vector-perl > libcarp-clan-perl libclamav1 > libdate-calc-perl libfile-find-rule-perl libgmp3c2 > libnumber-compare-perl libtext-glob-perl > sharutils > Suggested packages: > lha mailx > Recommended packages: > arj unzoo > The following NEW packages will be installed: > clamav clamav-base clamav-docs clamav-freshclam clamtk > libbit-vector-perl libcarp-clan-perl > libclamav1 libdate-calc-perl libfile-find-rule-perl libgmp3c2 > libnumber-compare-perl > libtext-glob-perl sharutils unrar > 0 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 8349kB of archives. > After unpacking 12.2MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe libclamav1 > 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [271kB] > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libgmp3c2 2:4.2.1+dfsg-3 > [432kB] > Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-base > 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [175kB] > Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-freshclam > 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [5911kB] > Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main sharutils 1:4.2.1-15 > [111kB] > Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libtext-glob-perl > 0.06-3 [7938B] > Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libnumber-compare-perl > 0.01-3 [6068B] > Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libfile-find-rule-perl > 0.30-1 [29.9kB] > Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libcarp-clan-perl 5.3-4 > [10.5kB] > Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main libbit-vector-perl 6.4-4 > [145kB] > Get:11 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libdate-calc-perl > 5.4-4 [249kB] > Get:12 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe clamtk 2.24-0ubuntu1 > [37.0kB] > Get:13 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse unrar 1:3.5.4-0.1 > [86.7kB] > Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav > 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [67.4kB] > Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe clamav-docs > 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 [810kB] > Fetched 8349kB in 55s > (149kB/s) > Preconfiguring packages ... > Selecting previously deselected package libgmp3c2. > (Reading database ... 124799 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking libgmp3c2 (from .../libgmp3c2_2%3a4.2.1+dfsg-3_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libclamav1. > Unpacking libclamav1 > (from .../libclamav1_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package clamav-base. > Unpacking clamav-base > (from .../clamav-base_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package clamav-freshclam. > Unpacking clamav-freshclam > (from .../clamav-freshclam_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package clamav. > Unpacking clamav (from .../clamav_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package sharutils. > Unpacking sharutils (from .../sharutils_1%3a4.2.1-15_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package clamav-docs. > Unpacking clamav-docs > (from .../clamav-docs_0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libtext-glob-perl. > Unpacking libtext-glob-perl > (from .../libtext-glob-perl_0.06-3_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libnumber-compare-perl. > Unpacking libnumber-compare-perl > (from .../libnumber-compare-perl_0.01-3_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libfile-find-rule-perl. > Unpacking libfile-find-rule-perl > (from .../libfile-find-rule-perl_0.30-1_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libcarp-clan-perl. > Unpacking libcarp-clan-perl > (from .../libcarp-clan-perl_5.3-4_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libbit-vector-perl. > Unpacking libbit-vector-perl > (from .../libbit-vector-perl_6.4-4_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package libdate-calc-perl. > Unpacking libdate-calc-perl > (from .../libdate-calc-perl_5.4-4_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package clamtk. > Unpacking clamtk (from .../clamtk_2.24-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package unrar. > Unpacking unrar (from .../unrar_1%3a3.5.4-0.1_i386.deb) ... > Setting up libgmp3c2 (4.2.1+dfsg-3) ... > > Setting up libclamav1 (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... > > Setting up clamav-base (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... > Adding system user `clamav' with uid 110... > Adding new group `clamav' (116). > Adding new user `clamav' (110) with group `clamav'. > Not creating home directory `/var/lib/clamav'. > dpkg: error processing clamav-base (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamav-freshclam: > clamav-freshclam depends on clamav-base (= 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1); however: > Package clamav-base is not configured yet. > dpkg: error processing clamav-freshclam (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamav: > clamav depends on clamav-freshclam | clamav-data; however: > Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet. > Package clamav-data is not installed. > Package clamav-freshclam which provides clamav-data is not configured > yet. > dpkg: error processing clamav (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Setting up sharutils (4.2.1-15) ... > > Setting up clamav-docs (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... > Setting up libtext-glob-perl (0.06-3) ... > Setting up libnumber-compare-perl (0.01-3) ... > Setting up libfile-find-rule-perl (0.30-1) ... > Setting up libcarp-clan-perl (5.3-4) ... > Setting up libbit-vector-perl (6.4-4) ... > Setting up libdate-calc-perl (5.4-4) ... > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of clamtk: > clamtk depends on clamav (>= 0.83); however: > Package clamav is not configured yet. > clamtk depends on clamav-freshclam (>= 0.83); however: > Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet. > dpkg: error processing clamtk (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Setting up unrar (3.5.4-0.1) ... > Errors were encountered while processing: > clamav-base > clamav-freshclam > clamav > clamtk > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > Then, when I run Applications -> Accessories -> Virus Scanner, I get > this on startup: > > Warning: No virus definitions found! If you are sure you have > definitions installed, please inform the developer where your > definitions are held so the paths can be added. I went back and ran these in order: sudo dpkg --configure clamav-base Password: Setting up clamav-base (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... gymsmoke at croatus:~$ sudo dpkg --configure clamav-freshclam Setting up clamav-freshclam (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... * Starting ClamAV virus database updater freshclam [ ok ] gymsmoke at croatus:~$ sudo dpkg --configure --pending Setting up clamav (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... Setting up clamtk (2.24-0ubuntu1) ... And, upon opening the gui (clamtk), received this: Warning: Your virus signatures are 189 days old! Now, that's more in keeping with the Ubuntu Tradition! :P Anyone know how to get virus definitions just slightly younger than 6 months old ?? (I think launchpad (or whoever is responsible for this pkg) should definitely be made aware of the package install snafu...) From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 13 01:28:37 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:28:37 +1100 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070213122837.dbdf6285.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:13:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Staar wrote: > If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? External serial modems "just work" - they don't rely on software like WInmodems, and no modem drivers are required COM 1 is ttyS0 , COM 2 is ttyS1 and so on . There are several ways to configure the connection. I am no longer on dial-up, but I always had the best results using the "pppconfig" utility. To configure the connection you type sudo pppconfig To connect and disconnect, use the "pon" and "poff" commands respectively. You can, of course, make a launcher buttton or icon for the commands. An easier ( GUI) way is the KDE "kppp" tool. For some reason the Gnome tools seem to produce slow connections, unless this has been fixed in Ubuntu 6.10 . Peter From dennismouille at hotmail.com Tue Feb 13 01:35:07 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:35:07 -0800 Subject: DSL fixed, thank you all for you imput In-Reply-To: <45CF9434.1030507@gatech.edu> Message-ID: /etc/network/interfaces is where the problem was. Ii's cleamed up and working >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: DSL >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:09:56 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > Matthew > > I did the all the cammands you emailed me and it started working again. > > This happens from time to time. Can you tell me which command fix it? > >Just: > >sudo ifdown eth0 >sudo ifup eth0 > >That drops the Ethernet connection, then reconnects. > >You really shouldn't ever have to do this, but your router may be >misconfigured or something... > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards� http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 13 01:41:27 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:41:27 -0500 Subject: DSL fixed, thank you all for you imput In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> Dennis Castanos wrote: > /etc/network/interfaces > is where the problem was. Ii's cleamed up and working Great. Glad I provided some interim help. Could you tell us what the problem was with /etc/network/interfaces was (on the off case someone has the same problem and searches the archives)? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue Feb 13 01:52:56 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:52:56 -0500 Subject: clam bails during install on edgy In-Reply-To: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> References: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <49933-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C1F6CAF9@[75.194.196.196]> I recall having a similar problem last year. IIRC, doing the install a second time succeeded. Scott K From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 13 02:04:18 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:04:18 -0800 Subject: DSL fixed, thank you all for you imput In-Reply-To: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> References: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Dennis Castanos wrote: >> /etc/network/interfaces >> is where the problem was. Ii's cleamed up and working > > Great. Glad I provided some interim help. Could you tell us what the > problem was with /etc/network/interfaces was (on the off case someone > has the same problem and searches the archives)? > > Matthew Flaschen > > Indeed. I'm also curious to know if he managed to figure out the Network Settings interface. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Feb 13 02:10:16 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:10:16 -0500 Subject: remote access Message-ID: <200702122110.16993.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm trying to use vnc4viewer on an edgy box at work to connect to my electronically comatose dad's home XP box. I have realvnc setup on the XP box and it works from my home boxes, but the problem is that our corporate network seems to be locked down tight (and I have no admin access nor am I likely to). I can't ping any IP address that is outside the corporate network, so I assume that the firewall is blocking access. How can I get through? If anyone has any suggestions, could you also point me to some explicit instructions? Thanks, Paul From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 02:15:26 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:15:26 -0500 Subject: DSL fixed, thank you all for you imput In-Reply-To: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> References: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171332926.10534.102.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 20:41 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Dennis Castanos wrote: > > /etc/network/interfaces > > is where the problem was. Ii's cleamed up and working > > Great. Glad I provided some interim help. Could you tell us what the > problem was with /etc/network/interfaces was (on the off case someone > has the same problem and searches the archives)? > > Matthew Flaschen np, Dennis... I agree with Matthew; do provide us with what the problem turned out to be and the resolution... my son is having a go at installing Linux for the first time (he's 15) and I'm sure he won't have networking functioning when the install is complete... :) > From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 13 02:42:24 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:42:24 -0800 Subject: Network Manager, misbehaves Message-ID: <45D12590.8010308@comcast.net> I have two issues with Network Manager that I think are related, but perhaps not. Note: Using Ubuntu Edgy First, I have the Network Monitor applet showing that I have a connection, as of now, connection strength is at 86%. At the same time Network Manager (0.6.3) shows connection strength at 52%. (25' unobstructed line of sight) I understand this is a known issue with Atheros chipset cards. And I saw at one point a fix. The problem is that the fix required hacking some element of the NM source and recompiling. While I'd be willing to give such a fix a try, the entire discussion assumed at least some modicum of programing ability. I'm willing to learn, but that's not me. The other issue is that I understand the fix would then "break" the ability to have Ubuntu auto-majically update when necessary. I'm not sure that's a good idea. Second problem: My wifi connection will periodically drop connection. This will happen both on my office WIFI or at Home, Both APs are configured for WPA personal. The router / DHCP server at work is configured for 1 day lease times, so I doubt that is the issue. It will also happen more often when I move to a location, office or home, that has a lower signal strength. It has also happened on Open WIFI. For example (and this was really frustrating) I was at a hotel at a business conference. There was paid wifi in the rooms and free in the lobby. So naturally, I went to the lobby, where NM could "see" both the "GuestRm" ESSID and the "Lobby" ESSID. NM showed about 35% signal strength for the former and <20% for the latter. (Even though I was sitting in the lobby.) I could force a connection to "Lobby", but would promptly (2-3 minutes) be dropped, and NM would try to access the pay service. One more data point: Since I had work that had to be done, I rebooted into XP, forced the "Lobby" connection, and windows was able to stay connected. So, if this signal strength discrepancy issue is the culprit, then I'd like to fix it. But, If the signal strength that NM reports has no effect on NM's functioning, then I suppose I don't care. Does anyone know? Also, anyone have any ideas about why NM drops the connection periodically? Especially if it is not about signal strength? Thanks, Patton From custom at freenet.de Tue Feb 13 02:42:27 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:42:27 +0700 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <1171334547.19625.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 10:27 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > Quicken, my only concession to Windows, is a case in point. All I need is > the ability to balance my books, download the transactions from the web, > and fill in a few forms for the government. In the end, there are at least > 3 OSS products that do the first as well as Quicken (GnuCash, SQLLedger and > KMyMoney), they all promise OFX file imports (I haven't tested them, > though) and nobody has a way to print the government forms I need (but the > OSS products could be extended). Microsoft is going after Quickbooks' behind though, now that they're giving their new Office Accounting 2007 away free-of-charge. Actually MS is starting to give lots of stuff away free-of-charge recently... It's getting much harder for FOSS products to compete when Microsoft spins off free-of-charge versions that are roughly equivalent. I'm just looking at Visual Web Studio Express and it's rather impressive.. No real need anymore to shell out real money for the full Visual Studio. Cheers, Chanchao From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 13 02:50:05 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:50:05 -0800 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <20070213122837.dbdf6285.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20070213122837.dbdf6285.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Peter Garrett wrote: > On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:13:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > Staar wrote: > >> If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? > > External serial modems "just work" - they don't rely on software like > WInmodems, and no modem drivers are required COM 1 is ttyS0 , COM 2 is > ttyS1 and so on . > > There are several ways to configure the connection. I am no longer on > dial-up, but I always had the best results using the "pppconfig" utility. > To configure the connection you type > > sudo pppconfig > > To connect and disconnect, use the "pon" and "poff" commands respectively. > > You can, of course, make a launcher buttton or icon for the commands. An > easier ( GUI) way is the KDE "kppp" tool. For some reason the Gnome tools > seem to produce slow connections, unless this has been fixed in Ubuntu > 6.10 . > > Peter > Unfortunately internal modems don't. I consider myself to be somewhat technically competent having worked with networks (wan & lan / HW & SW) for over 20 years, but I'll be darned if I can get a single dialup modem working with Ubuntu. I've read the faqs, followed the forums & howtos until I'm blue in the face, and have yet to get one to work. Ditto for an internal ethernet port on a Compaq 5670. *All* of the dialup modems work out-of-the-box with Windows, all work on the same machines via Windows in a dual boot. They simply *do not work* for me w/Ubuntu. The latest check of scanModem for one of my machines says that the modem is supported by someone. But I'd have to back my kernel down to 27 and recompile the kernel to get it to work... go figure. You'll find numerous forum threads & discussions regarding dialup modems & Ubuntu. You'll also find numerous threads right here that tail off into no answer. I've given up on DU modems & tell my clients that unless they have DSL Ubuntu is *not* for them. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue Feb 13 03:02:15 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:02:15 -0500 Subject: [UPDATE] Re: clam bails during install on edgy In-Reply-To: <1171329896.10534.99.camel@croatus> References: <1171329424.10534.94.camel@croatus> <1171329896.10534.99.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702122202.15829.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Monday 12 February 2007 20:24, John Dangler wrote: > And, upon opening the gui (clamtk), received this: > Warning: > Your virus signatures are 189 days old! > > Now, that's more in keeping with the Ubuntu Tradition! :P > > Anyone know how to get virus definitions just slightly younger than 6 > months old ?? Wait until they update automatically. By default freshclam runs every hour. > (I think launchpad (or whoever is responsible for this pkg) should > definitely be made aware of the package install snafu...) It's a known issue. See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/39853 Scott K From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 13 03:15:54 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:15:54 +1100 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20070213122837.dbdf6285.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20070213141554.388e6bb9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:50:05 -0800 NoOp wrote: > You'll find numerous forum threads & discussions regarding dialup modems > & Ubuntu. You'll also find numerous threads right here that tail off > into no answer. I've given up on DU modems & tell my clients that > unless they have DSL Ubuntu is *not* for them. This is why I made the distinction between software modems and external , hardware, serial modems. *Of course* it is hard to get winmodems working in lInux - the manufacturers rarely give any information which would make writing drivers for them possible, and by definition they are designed for Windows. Some "winmodems" do work, though - I used an Agere LT winmodem for a couple of years. It had the ltmodem kernel modules, ( http://www.heby.de/ltmodem ) . This case is unusual, unfortunately. If a hardware external modem is used, dialup works just fine with Ubuntu - I know because I have used one ( Acer) with Warty, Hoary, Breezy and Dapper :) I now have adsl2+ , which is something of an improvement ;-) Peter From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 03:23:25 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:23:25 +0800 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: <200702121836.12015.pubmb02@skynet.be> References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702121813.17592.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702121836.12015.pubmb02@skynet.be> Message-ID: On 2/13/07, Bruno wrote: > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only > > > works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work if > > > there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and > > > reboot) > > > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I > > > tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since > > > chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd > > > dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > > > . > > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > > selinux-policy-default > > > > ...etc... > > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory > > > > make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > > . > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > > Bye, > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > > > Carpe Diem > > > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add selinux=1 as a > > kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > > However getenforce allways return disabled. > > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place after > > reboot. > > > > Thanks, > > Bruno > > It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in /var/log/messages : > ... > Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a ro quiet > splash selinux=1 > SELinux: Initializing. > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability > ... > but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux start does'nt > complete. > > > Bye, > Bruno > Make sure you have policycoreutils and checkpolicy installed, I have the similar problem before on Selinux, I solved it by 1. --purging the entire selinux installation 2. Install policycoreutils, selinux-refpolicy-targeted, and lastly install selinux-policy-basic. Then relabel. I'm also trying to make a policy that would work on enforcing mode. Currently, the selinux-policy-targeted can work with enforcing mode if some daemons is to be turned off (syslogd), and must boot the kernel in read-write, I also set the fsck to autofix=yes. I hope this helps, Joel > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Carpe Diem From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 03:55:57 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:55:57 -0500 Subject: vmware-server on Edgy Message-ID: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> Installing vmware-server from vmware.com ... During install (setting up .desktop files in /usr/share/applications - /usr/share/applications/vmware-server.desktop: error: Categories values must be one of "Core", "Development", "Building", "Debugger", "IDE", "GUIDesigner", "Profiling", "RevisionControl", "Translation", "Office", "Calendar", "ContactManagement", "Database", "Dictionary", "Chart", "Email", "Finance", "FlowChart", "PDA", "ProjectManagement", "Presentation", "Spreadsheet", "WordProcessor", "Graphics", "2DGraphics", "VectorGraphics", "RasterGraphics", "3DGraphics", "Scanning", "OCR", "Photography", "Viewer", "Settings", "DesktopSettings", "HardwareSettings", "PackageManager", "Network", "Dialup", "InstantMessaging", "IRCClient", "FileTransfer", "HamRadio", "News", "P2P", "RemoteAccess", "Telephony", "WebBrowser", "WebDevelopment", "AudioVideo", "Audio", "Midi", "Mixer", "Sequencer", "Tuner", "Video", "TV", "AudioVideoEditing", "Player", "Recorder", "DiscBurning", "Game", "ActionGame", "AdventureGame", "ArcadeGame", "BoardGame", "BlocksGame", "CardGame", "KidsGame", "LogicGame", "RolePlaying", "Simulation", "SportsGame", "StrategyGame", "Education", "Art", "Construction", "Music", "Languages", "Science", "Astronomy", "Biology", "Chemistry", "Geology", "Math", "MedicalSoftware", "Physics", "Teaching", "Amusement", "Applet", "Archiving", "Electronics", "Emulator", "Engineering", "FileManager", "Shell", "ScreenSaver", "TeminalEmulator", "TrayIcon", "System", "Filesystem", "Monitor", "Security", "Utility", "Accessibility", "Calculator", "Clock", "TextEditor", "KDE", "GNOME", "GTK", "Qt", "Motif", "Java", "ConsoleOnly" (found "Application") desktop-file-install created an invalid desktop file! Unable to install the .desktop menu entry file. You must add it to your menus by hand. /usr/share/applications/vmware-console-uri-handler.desktop: error: Categories values must be one of "Core", "Development", "Building", "Debugger", "IDE", "GUIDesigner", "Profiling", "RevisionControl", "Translation", "Office", "Calendar", "ContactManagement", "Database", "Dictionary", "Chart", "Email", "Finance", "FlowChart", "PDA", "ProjectManagement", "Presentation", "Spreadsheet", "WordProcessor", "Graphics", "2DGraphics", "VectorGraphics", "RasterGraphics", "3DGraphics", "Scanning", "OCR", "Photography", "Viewer", "Settings", "DesktopSettings", "HardwareSettings", "PackageManager", "Network", "Dialup", "InstantMessaging", "IRCClient", "FileTransfer", "HamRadio", "News", "P2P", "RemoteAccess", "Telephony", "WebBrowser", "WebDevelopment", "AudioVideo", "Audio", "Midi", "Mixer", "Sequencer", "Tuner", "Video", "TV", "AudioVideoEditing", "Player", "Recorder", "DiscBurning", "Game", "ActionGame", "AdventureGame", "ArcadeGame", "BoardGame", "BlocksGame", "CardGame", "KidsGame", "LogicGame", "RolePlaying", "Simulation", "SportsGame", "StrategyGame", "Education", "Art", "Construction", "Music", "Languages", "Science", "Astronomy", "Biology", "Chemistry", "Geology", "Math", "MedicalSoftware", "Physics", "Teaching", "Amusement", "Applet", "Archiving", "Electronics", "Emulator", "Engineering", "FileManager", "Shell", "ScreenSaver", "TeminalEmulator", "TrayIcon", "System", "Filesystem", "Monitor", "Security", "Utility", "Accessibility", "Calculator", "Clock", "TextEditor", "KDE", "GNOME", "GTK", "Qt", "Motif", "Java", "ConsoleOnly" (found "Application") desktop-file-install created an invalid desktop file! Unable to install the .desktop menu entry file. You must add it to your menus by hand. Anyone know how I can dig out the info to create the .desktop files ? From brad at bkjohnson.com Tue Feb 13 03:57:28 2007 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:57:28 -0600 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc><20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net><20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc><20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu><20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu><20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 09:46 -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > I installed apache, php5 and mysql via apt-get sudo apt-get install php5-mysql It adds mysql support to php5 Brad From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 04:42:30 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:42:30 -0500 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:55 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Installing vmware-server from vmware.com ... > > During install (setting up .desktop files in /usr/share/applications - > /usr/share/applications/vmware-server.desktop: error: Categories values > must be one of "Core", "Development", "Building", "Debugger", "IDE", > "GUIDesigner", "Profiling", "RevisionControl", "Translation", "Office", > "Calendar", "ContactManagement", "Database", "Dictionary", "Chart", > "Email", "Finance", "FlowChart", "PDA", "ProjectManagement", > "Presentation", "Spreadsheet", "WordProcessor", "Graphics", > "2DGraphics", "VectorGraphics", "RasterGraphics", "3DGraphics", > "Scanning", "OCR", "Photography", "Viewer", "Settings", > "DesktopSettings", "HardwareSettings", "PackageManager", "Network", > "Dialup", "InstantMessaging", "IRCClient", "FileTransfer", "HamRadio", > "News", "P2P", "RemoteAccess", "Telephony", "WebBrowser", > "WebDevelopment", "AudioVideo", "Audio", "Midi", "Mixer", "Sequencer", > "Tuner", "Video", "TV", "AudioVideoEditing", "Player", "Recorder", > "DiscBurning", "Game", "ActionGame", "AdventureGame", "ArcadeGame", > "BoardGame", "BlocksGame", "CardGame", "KidsGame", "LogicGame", > "RolePlaying", "Simulation", "SportsGame", "StrategyGame", "Education", > "Art", "Construction", "Music", "Languages", "Science", "Astronomy", > "Biology", "Chemistry", "Geology", "Math", "MedicalSoftware", "Physics", > "Teaching", "Amusement", "Applet", "Archiving", "Electronics", > "Emulator", "Engineering", "FileManager", "Shell", "ScreenSaver", > "TeminalEmulator", "TrayIcon", "System", "Filesystem", "Monitor", > "Security", "Utility", "Accessibility", "Calculator", "Clock", > "TextEditor", "KDE", "GNOME", "GTK", "Qt", "Motif", "Java", > "ConsoleOnly" (found "Application") > desktop-file-install created an invalid desktop file! > Unable to install the .desktop menu entry file. You must add it to your > menus > by hand. > /usr/share/applications/vmware-console-uri-handler.desktop: error: > Categories values must be one of "Core", "Development", "Building", > "Debugger", "IDE", "GUIDesigner", "Profiling", "RevisionControl", > "Translation", "Office", "Calendar", "ContactManagement", "Database", > "Dictionary", "Chart", "Email", "Finance", "FlowChart", "PDA", > "ProjectManagement", "Presentation", "Spreadsheet", "WordProcessor", > "Graphics", "2DGraphics", "VectorGraphics", "RasterGraphics", > "3DGraphics", "Scanning", "OCR", "Photography", "Viewer", "Settings", > "DesktopSettings", "HardwareSettings", "PackageManager", "Network", > "Dialup", "InstantMessaging", "IRCClient", "FileTransfer", "HamRadio", > "News", "P2P", "RemoteAccess", "Telephony", "WebBrowser", > "WebDevelopment", "AudioVideo", "Audio", "Midi", "Mixer", "Sequencer", > "Tuner", "Video", "TV", "AudioVideoEditing", "Player", "Recorder", > "DiscBurning", "Game", "ActionGame", "AdventureGame", "ArcadeGame", > "BoardGame", "BlocksGame", "CardGame", "KidsGame", "LogicGame", > "RolePlaying", "Simulation", "SportsGame", "StrategyGame", "Education", > "Art", "Construction", "Music", "Languages", "Science", "Astronomy", > "Biology", "Chemistry", "Geology", "Math", "MedicalSoftware", "Physics", > "Teaching", "Amusement", "Applet", "Archiving", "Electronics", > "Emulator", "Engineering", "FileManager", "Shell", "ScreenSaver", > "TeminalEmulator", "TrayIcon", "System", "Filesystem", "Monitor", > "Security", "Utility", "Accessibility", "Calculator", "Clock", > "TextEditor", "KDE", "GNOME", "GTK", "Qt", "Motif", "Java", > "ConsoleOnly" (found "Application") > desktop-file-install created an invalid desktop file! > Unable to install the .desktop menu entry file. You must add it to your > menus > by hand. > > Anyone know how I can dig out the info to create the .desktop files ? nm. For some reason, the desktop info showed up anyway... However, for anyone who is trying this out - register FIRST before downloading... My license for vmware-server (issued when I ran under Dapper) was invalid. I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same information) to get another serial number for the install to work. > > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 04:45:37 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:45:37 -0500 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <1171334547.19625.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <1171334547.19625.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1171341937.10534.113.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 09:42 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 10:27 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > Quicken, my only concession to Windows, is a case in point. All I need is > > the ability to balance my books, download the transactions from the web, > > and fill in a few forms for the government. In the end, there are at least > > 3 OSS products that do the first as well as Quicken (GnuCash, SQLLedger and > > KMyMoney), they all promise OFX file imports (I haven't tested them, > > though) and nobody has a way to print the government forms I need (but the > > OSS products could be extended). > > Microsoft is going after Quickbooks' behind though, now that they're > giving their new Office Accounting 2007 away free-of-charge. > > Actually MS is starting to give lots of stuff away free-of-charge > recently... It's getting much harder for FOSS products to compete when > Microsoft spins off free-of-charge versions that are roughly equivalent. > I'm just looking at Visual Web Studio Express and it's rather > impressive.. No real need anymore to shell out real money for the full > Visual Studio. > > Cheers, > Chanchao Holler when they start giving away vista... ;) (actually I saw an alpha version of an OS that said it was an XP clone and was open source - not made by M$ of course) > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 04:50:26 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:50:26 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <1171342226.10534.117.camel@croatus> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 17:37 -0500, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I really like FireHOL. It is capable of some very complex things but is > quite simple to setup. I have all my firewall rules including IP > masquerading in a configuration file that is 32 lines long and written > in a very easy to understand scripting language. There are some > supplemental service definition files I use for my specific set of > rules, but they are very easy to understand as well and are each only 3 > lines. > > Just my personal preference, > Lorenzo Thanks, Lorenzo. I'm reading up on fireHOL. I already got most of my apps up and running, including dar (kdar bailed hard when I tried to install it on gnome). Most everything else is on the desktop system I want (except rosegarden, which I'm still trying to decide on the source for - rosegarden4 in the repo's is seriously out of date according to the authors, but the source is apparently tricky to compile since it requires a version of cmake that ubuntu doesn't have yet). > - -- > I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. > - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF0OxGG9IpekrhBfIRAo1dAJ0eaL89mx4LiHUFyx+T4sEUzflwfQCgp607 > 5zMvU+6fuFRA3LmYfxxKWQo= > =5rLY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From custom at freenet.de Tue Feb 13 04:55:29 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:55:29 +0700 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <1171341937.10534.113.camel@croatus> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <1171334547.19625.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171341937.10534.113.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171342529.19625.20.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 23:45 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Holler when they start giving away vista... ;) Well that's the one Microsoft product that I DONT want. :) But register for their "Active Pack" and you get 10 licenses of just about everything they make for US$ 300 or so. (Incl. Vista, Server 2003, SQL Server, Office, etc.) That's not free, but 10 licenses of everything... That's getting down to the price of 'postage' on a per CD basis. > (actually I saw an alpha version of an OS that said it was an XP clone > and was open source - not made by M$ of course) Holler when it does Aero. :) Cheers, Chanchao From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 13 05:14:13 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:14:13 -0800 Subject: Network Manager, misbehaves In-Reply-To: <1171335542.5206.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45D12590.8010308@comcast.net> <1171335542.5206.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45D14925.70507@comcast.net> On 02/12/2007 06:59 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 18:42 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: > >> I have two issues with Network Manager that I think are related, but >> perhaps not. >> >> Note: Using Ubuntu Edgy >> Also, anyone have any ideas about why NM drops the connection >> periodically? Especially if it is not about signal strength? >> > > Run 'iwevent' and see if the driver is sending IWAP events with a BSSID > of 00:00:00:00:00:00 when you get disconnected. If so, that's a driver > problem. Logs would also help here, they are dumped to the normal > syslog location, usually /var/log/messages. > > Dan > > Thanks for your help. I'm posting back to the lists in case these are of interest to others. I started iwevent before giving NM a the key for home wpa. Also attached is the contents of /var/log/messages from the last boot. It's quite lengthy, but I included it all since I really don't know what it all means. Here is the output of iwevent: patton at Mycroft:~$ iwevent Waiting for Wireless Events from interfaces... 19:57:15.499168 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 19:57:15.559925 ath0 Set ESSID:"Echo1" 19:57:15.636517 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:00:0F:B5:69:5D:24 19:57:15.671114 ath0 Custom driver event:MLME-MICHAELMICFAILURE.indication(keyid=4 unicast addr=00:05:4e:50:a9:0f) 20:01:20.503306 ath0 Scan request completed 20:06:31.186724 ath0 Scan request completed 20:09:48.003526 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated 20:09:48.106943 ath0 Set ESSID:off/any 20:09:57.037356 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:09:59.039589 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:09:59.039816 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:10:00.064758 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:10:00.079356 ath0 Set ESSID:"Echo1" 20:10:00.099247 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:00:0F:B5:69:5D:24 20:14:39.594215 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated 20:14:39.695878 ath0 Set ESSID:off/any 20:14:48.614065 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:14:50.608515 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:14:50.608763 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:14:51.632866 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:14:51.653501 ath0 Set ESSID:"Echo1" 20:14:51.672535 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:00:0F:B5:69:5D:24 20:20:01.076088 ath0 Scan request completed 20:22:57.911874 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated 20:22:58.014394 ath0 Set ESSID:off/any 20:23:06.944491 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:23:08.947044 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:23:08.947271 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:23:09.971949 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:23:09.991090 ath0 Set ESSID:"Echo1" 20:23:10.011054 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:00:0F:B5:69:5D:24 20:24:56.351613 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated 20:24:56.452847 ath0 Set ESSID:off/any 20:25:05.371048 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:25:07.366159 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:25:07.366395 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:25:08.402876 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:25:08.428584 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:25:10.429689 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:25:10.429921 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:25:39.727089 ath0 Set ESSID:"" 20:25:41.729064 ath0 Set Encryption key:off 20:25:41.729296 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:25:42.768664 ath0 Set Mode:Managed 20:25:42.787454 ath0 Set ESSID:"Echo1" 20:25:42.809215 ath0 New Access Point/Cell address:00:0F:B5:69:5D:24 Here is the contents of /var/log//messages from boot time: Feb 12 19:51:48 Mycroft syslogd 1.4.1#18ubuntu6: restart. Feb 12 19:51:48 Mycroft kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.17-11-generic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: Loaded 22866 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.17-11-generic. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.17. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Linux version 2.6.17-11-generic (root at terranova) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)) #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f000 (usable) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 00000000000dc000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002ff60000 (usable) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000002ff60000 - 000000002ff78000 (ACPI data) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000002ff78000 - 000000002ff7a000 (ACPI NVS) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000002ff80000 - 0000000030000000 (reserved) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 00000000ff800000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] 0MB HIGHMEM available. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] 767MB LOWMEM available. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] DMI present. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Allocating PCI resources starting at 40000000 (gap: 30000000:cf800000) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Built 1 zonelists Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Local APIC disabled by BIOS (or by default) -- you can enable it with "lapic" Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Initializing CPU#0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Detected 1993.893 MHz processor. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.184000] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.288000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.292000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.312000] Memory: 769120k/785792k available (1911k kernel code, 16060k reserved, 1073k data, 308k init, 0k highmem) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.312000] Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3992.46 BogoMIPS (lpj=7984931) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] SELinux: Disabled at boot. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] CPU: L2 cache: 256K Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.392000] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.408000] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.408000] Freeing SMP alternatives: 16k freed Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179569.408000] checking if image is initramfs... it is Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.028000] Freeing initrd memory: 5326k freed Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.028000] ACPI: Core revision 20060707 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.028000] ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found! Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.032000] ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0800) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.044000] CPU0: Intel Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz stepping 07 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.044000] SMP motherboard not detected. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.044000] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.044000] Brought up 1 CPUs Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.044000] migration_cost=0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] NET: Registered protocol family 16 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] EISA bus registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] ACPI: bus type pci registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd936, last bus=5 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] PCI: Using configuration type 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] Setting up standard PCI resources Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.048000] ACPI: Found ECDT Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.056000] ACPI: Interpreter enabled Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.056000] ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.056000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11) *0, disabled. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.060000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11) *0, disabled. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.064000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.064000] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.068000] PCI quirk: region 1000-107f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.068000] PCI quirk: region 1180-11bf claimed by ICH4 GPIO Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.068000] PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:1f.1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.068000] PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.072000] ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC] (gpe 28) interrupt mode. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.072000] ACPI: Power Resource [PUBS] (on) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.076000] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.076000] pnp: PnP ACPI init Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.084000] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.084000] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.084000] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.084000] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] IO window: 3000-3fff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] MEM window: d0100000-d01fffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PREFETCH window: e8000000-efffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PCI: Bus 3, cardbus bridge: 0000:02:00.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] IO window: 00004000-000040ff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] IO window: 00004400-000044ff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PREFETCH window: f0000000-f1ffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] MEM window: d2000000-d3ffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] IO window: 4000-8fff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] MEM window: d0200000-dfffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] PREFETCH window: f0000000-f7ffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.092000] NET: Registered protocol family 2 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] TCP reno registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.132000] Simple Boot Flag at 0x35 set to 0x1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] audit(1171309882.136:1): initialized Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] Initializing Cryptographic API Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] io scheduler noop registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] io scheduler anticipatory registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] io scheduler deadline registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] io scheduler cfq registered (default) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.136000] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.488000] isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.548000] Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.548000] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] pnp: Device 00:0a activated. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] 00:0a: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a NS16550A Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.6[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.6 disabled Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 65536K size 1024 blocksize Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.552000] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBD,PNP0f13:MOU] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 2 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 4 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 5 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 6 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 7 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 8 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] EISA: Detected 0 cards. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] TCP bic registered Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] NET: Registered protocol family 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] NET: Registered protocol family 8 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] NET: Registered protocol family 20 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Using IPI No-Shortcut mode Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] ACPI: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.556000] Freeing unused kernel memory: 308k freed Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179570.560000] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179571.680000] Capability LSM initialized Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179572.196000] ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2] C3[C3]) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179572.196000] ACPI: Processor [CPU] (supports 8 throttling states) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179572.200000] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM0] (46 C) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ICH4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:1f.1 (0005 -> 0007) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ICH4: chipset revision 3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ICH4: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1860-0x1867, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.076000] ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1868-0x186f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179573.368000] hda: FUJITSU MHV2120AH, ATA DISK drive Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179574.040000] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179574.856000] hdc: UJDA740 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.528000] ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.540000] hda: max request size: 128KiB Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.552000] hda: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.556000] hda: cache flushes supported Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.556000] hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 > Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.648000] hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.648000] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.996000] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.996000] usbcore: registered new driver hub Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179575.996000] USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 11, io base 0x00001800 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.000000] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 11, io base 0x00001820 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.104000] hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 11, io base 0x00001840 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.208000] hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.7[D] -> Link [LNKH] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.356000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: irq 11, io mem 0xd0000000 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.360000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.360000] usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.360000] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.360000] hub 4-0:1.0: 6 ports detected Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.508000] Attempting manual resume Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.556000] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179576.556000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179587.556000] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179587.560000] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.092000] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.108000] FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.120000] parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.120000] parport0: PC-style at 0x3bc, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.272000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.276000] agpgart: Detected an Intel i845 Chipset. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.280000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.300000] hw_random: RNG not detected Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.508000] input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input1 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.712000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.792000] ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.796000] ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.856000] NET: Registered protocol family 23 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.940000] wlan: 0.8.4.2 (0.9.2.1) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.952000] ath_rate_sample: 1.2 (0.9.2.1) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179588.972000] ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.2.1) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.016000] e100: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver, 3.5.10-k2-NAPI Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.016000] e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2005 Intel Corporation Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.176000] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.9, id: 0x2c6ab1, caps: 0x884793/0x0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.176000] serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.220000] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input2 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] pnp: Device 00:0c activated. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] nsc-ircc, chip->init Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] nsc-ircc, Found chip at base=0x02e Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] nsc-ircc, driver loaded (Dag Brattli) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] IrDA: Registered device irda0 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.224000] nsc-ircc, Using dongle: IBM31T1100 or Temic TFDS6000/TFDS6500 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.288000] ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.532000] intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54993 usecs Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.532000] intel8x0: clocking to 48000 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.532000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:02.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: H/W encryption support: WEP AES AES_CCM TKIP Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 1 for WME_AC_BE traffic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 0 for WME_AC_BK traffic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 2 for WME_AC_VI traffic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 3 for WME_AC_VO traffic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 8 for CAB traffic Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.820000] wifi0: Use hw queue 9 for beacons Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] wifi0: Atheros 5212: mem=0xd0200000, irq=11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:02:00.0 [1014:0528] Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] Yenta: Using INTVAL to route CSC interrupts to PCI Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179589.828000] Yenta TI: socket 0000:02:00.0, mfunc 0x01d11002, devctl 0x64 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0430, PCI irq 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] Socket status: 30000007 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0x4000 - 0x8fff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] cs: IO port probe 0x4000-0x8fff: clean. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xd0200000 - 0xdfffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.060000] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.068000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.068000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:08.0[A] -> Link [LNKE] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.092000] e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xd0210000, irq 11, MAC addr 00:06:1B:E0:23:B5 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.444000] cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: clean. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.448000] cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: excluding 0x4d0-0x4d7 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.448000] cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.448000] cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcf7: clean. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179590.448000] cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean. Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179593.480000] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179593.508000] fuse init (API version 7.6) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179593.564000] Adding 2273156k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1c5e04c6-9bb6-4d8c-9f67-504b96350345. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2273156k Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179593.640000] EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179594.712000] IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179594.964000] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /class/input/input3 Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179595.768000] ACPI: AC Adapter [AC] (off-line) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179595.836000] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present) Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179595.860000] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179595.860000] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179595.860000] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179596.016000] ibm_acpi: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras v0.12a Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179596.016000] ibm_acpi: http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/ Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179596.044000] pcc_acpi: loading... Feb 12 19:51:49 Mycroft kernel: [17179596.180000] ACPI: Video Device [VID] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no) Feb 12 19:51:51 Mycroft kernel: [17179599.344000] [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102 Feb 12 19:51:51 Mycroft kernel: [17179599.352000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Feb 12 19:51:51 Mycroft kernel: [17179599.356000] [drm] Initialized radeon 1.25.0 20060524 on minor 0 Feb 12 19:51:51 Mycroft hpiod: 1.6.9 accepting connections at 2208... Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.524000] mtrr: 0xe8000000,0x8000000 overlaps existing 0xe8000000,0x1000000 Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft last message repeated 2 times Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.524000] agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.524000] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.524000] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.620000] IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls. Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.620000] apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) Feb 12 19:51:52 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.620000] apm: overridden by ACPI. Feb 12 19:51:53 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.812000] [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map Feb 12 19:51:53 Mycroft kernel: [17179600.812000] [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Feb 12 19:51:57 Mycroft dhcdbd: Started up. Feb 12 19:51:58 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.652000] Non-volatile memory driver v1.2 Feb 12 19:51:58 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.740000] input: /usr/sbin/thinkpad-keys as /class/input/input4 Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.972000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8 Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.972000] NET: Registered protocol family 31 Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.972000] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179606.972000] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179607.028000] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8 Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179607.028000] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179607.032000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179607.032000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized Feb 12 19:51:59 Mycroft kernel: [17179607.032000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7 Feb 12 19:56:29 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): starting (version 2.16.0), pid 4474 user 'patton' Feb 12 19:56:30 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Feb 12 19:56:30 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/patton/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1 Feb 12 19:56:30 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2 Feb 12 19:56:30 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3 Feb 12 19:56:30 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4 Feb 12 19:56:32 Mycroft kernel: [17179880.068000] NET: Registered protocol family 10 Feb 12 19:56:32 Mycroft kernel: [17179880.068000] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions Feb 12 19:56:32 Mycroft kernel: [17179880.068000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready Feb 12 19:56:32 Mycroft kernel: [17179880.068000] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver Feb 12 19:56:36 Mycroft gconfd (patton-4474): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/patton/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 0 Feb 12 19:56:39 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.reason Feb 12 19:57:15 Mycroft kernel: [17179923.312000] NET: Registered protocol family 17 Feb 12 19:57:23 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.host_name Feb 12 19:57:23 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 12 19:57:23 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_servers Feb 12 20:09:59 Mycroft kernel: [17180687.268000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready Feb 12 20:10:00 Mycroft kernel: [17180688.312000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready Feb 12 20:10:09 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.host_name Feb 12 20:10:09 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 12 20:10:09 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_servers Feb 12 20:14:50 Mycroft kernel: [17180978.820000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready Feb 12 20:14:51 Mycroft kernel: [17180979.868000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready Feb 12 20:14:57 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.host_name Feb 12 20:14:57 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 12 20:14:57 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_servers Feb 12 20:23:08 Mycroft kernel: [17181477.128000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready Feb 12 20:23:10 Mycroft kernel: [17181478.176000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready Feb 12 20:23:15 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.host_name Feb 12 20:23:15 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 12 20:23:15 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_servers Feb 12 20:25:06 Mycroft kernel: [17181594.368000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready Feb 12 20:25:41 Mycroft kernel: [17181629.904000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready Feb 12 20:25:42 Mycroft kernel: [17181630.968000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready Feb 12 20:25:48 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.host_name Feb 12 20:25:48 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 12 20:25:48 Mycroft dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.nis_servers Feb 12 20:40:20 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): starting (version 2.16.0), pid 7131 user 'root' Feb 12 20:40:21 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Feb 12 20:40:21 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/root/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1 Feb 12 20:40:21 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2 Feb 12 20:40:21 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3 Feb 12 20:40:21 Mycroft gconfd (root-7131): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 13 05:16:06 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:16:06 -0500 Subject: Linspire / Ubuntu partnership In-Reply-To: <1171341937.10534.113.camel@croatus> References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081067CBFC@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45CD0013.3090405@gatech.edu> <45CD4262.1020002@gatech.edu> <45CED54C.2020708@gatech.edu> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5569@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <1171334547.19625.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171341937.10534.113.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D14996.4080309@gatech.edu> John Dangler wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 09:42 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 10:27 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Quicken, my only concession to Windows, is a case in point. All I need is >>> the ability to balance my books, download the transactions from the web, >>> and fill in a few forms for the government. In the end, there are at least >>> 3 OSS products that do the first as well as Quicken (GnuCash, SQLLedger and >>> KMyMoney), they all promise OFX file imports (I haven't tested them, >>> though) and nobody has a way to print the government forms I need (but the >>> OSS products could be extended). >> Microsoft is going after Quickbooks' behind though, now that they're >> giving their new Office Accounting 2007 away free-of-charge. >> >> Actually MS is starting to give lots of stuff away free-of-charge >> recently... It's getting much harder for FOSS products to compete when >> Microsoft spins off free-of-charge versions that are roughly equivalent. >> I'm just looking at Visual Web Studio Express and it's rather >> impressive.. No real need anymore to shell out real money for the full >> Visual Studio. >> >> Cheers, >> Chanchao > Holler when they start giving away vista... ;) > (actually I saw an alpha version of an OS that said it was an XP clone > and was open source - not made by M$ of course) Are you talking about ReactOS (http://reactos.org/en/index.html)? Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dlithgow at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 05:32:56 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:32:56 +0100 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <1171344776.5964.12.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 00:27 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > The way I understand it is just like Certificates use with SSL. The > trust you put on a key depends on the security organization you are in. > So I may have a key signed by the security team of my company, that key > is trustworthy for anyone in that company but outside that company, it's > not valuable at all. > That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there > mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to > check the authority behind that key. I think you're misunderstanding the way the "web of trust" works. It's only got value of you find yourself in the other persons web of trust. It's all to do with how many degrees of separation there are between you and the person whose key you're looking at. If someone who you trust has been thorough in checking the identity of the new key then you can trust the new key. And that's the judgement you have to make: "Do I trust that the person I know has checked this persons identity?" And if it's one further step away the questions becomes: "Do I trust that the person I know has only signed keys of people who he knows are thorough in checking the identity of new keys they sign?" And so on. My key is for example signed by one of the main Danish developers of BSD - chances are quite high that you know someone who knows him. I can't remember the math but it turns out that it's usually surprisingly few degrees of separation between people. The weakness of my key though - for example - is that it's only signed by people who live in Denmark - so sometimes the connection may be a bit more distant. I hope that was a useful explanation. It's quite different from the idea of a highly trusted signing authority. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 06:39:55 2007 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:39:55 +0100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> On 13/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same > information) to get another serial number for the install to work. Even so you're among the lucky ones. Me? Times done a complete registring: 2 Serial numbers recieved: 0 Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From badgerclan at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 06:46:23 2007 From: badgerclan at gmail.com (Badger) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:46:23 -0800 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <6fffdd2d0702121436v58d64336ucd3549e843ceb693@mail.gmail.com> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <6fffdd2d0702121436v58d64336ucd3549e843ceb693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ef077b60702122246g10f4e1ccn35e56bb9b1c85ccb@mail.gmail.com> On 2/12/07, jair donadelli wrote: > > Try http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html > Jair > > On 2/12/07, Staar < michael_staar at earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my > > ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he > > could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check > > email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping > > out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), > > but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, > > Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not > > Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt > > to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. > > > > When I looked up the device it indicates the following: > > HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) > > Vendor: > > Conexant > > HCF 56K Data/Fax... > > OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. > > > > Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads > > page on linuxant.com (http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2 > > ) that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could > > explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be > > trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and > > would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a > > different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry > > about a different driver every time I change distros? > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated... > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > > The following link should answer your question about your modem chip. The 6.10 Ubuntu has kernel support built in. At least it works with my Zoom USB external which has the same chip on my PPC platform. You may need to use a 'alternate Ubuntu installation disk' instead of using the live version for the install as I find you can be more selective about the hardware you are using during the installation process. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant -- Chris D. (Badger) "What is time? The shadow on the dial, the striking of the clock, the running of the sand, day and night, summer and winter, months, years, centuries - these are but arbitrary and outward signs, the measure of Time, not Time itself. Time is the Life of the soul." - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From squareyes at internode.on.net Tue Feb 13 07:00:08 2007 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:30:08 +1030 Subject: Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <45D0C10D.9010502@isp.com> References: <75072.1171296820115.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <45D0C10D.9010502@isp.com> Message-ID: <45D161F8.7010908@internode.on.net> larry wrote: > Staar wrote: > >> First off, I'm primarily a windows user so you'll have to bare with my ignorance a little. I installed Xandros on an old pc for a relative so he could avoid spending obscene amounts of money on windows just to check email. The dialup connection was always slow and recently began dropping out on him often. So I decided to try Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake), but I am having problems configuring the PCI dialup modem. Using ubuntu, Under Network Settings, when I attempt to activate it, I receive 'Could Not Enable the Interface ppp0'. When I go to Interface properties and attempt to auto-detect the modem, I receive 'Could not autodetect modem device'. >> >> When I looked up the device it indicates the following: >> HCF 56K Data/Fax/Voice Modem (Worldwide) >> Vendor: >> Conexant >> HCF 56K Data/Fax... >> OEM Vendor: DIGICOM Systems, Inc. >> >> Any idea what the problem is? I stumbled across a HCF driver downloads page on linuxant.com (http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php?PHPSESSID=9e8a2e93e875447ced96514bfc3b4ed2) that says I need to pay to get 56K support? Is that true? That could explain why the connection was so slow on Xandros. I'm probably going to be trying different distrtos often until I find one that my relative likes and would like to avoid paying for a driver every time I upgrade or go to a different distro. If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? >> >> Any info would be greatly appreciated... >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> > Is your modem a serial port type, or what...??? > > I have a Data/Fax/Modem Best Data so when I setup my ppp dialup, when it > ask's me to autodetect, it does the same as yours...So I manually > install it using ttyS0, and it has worked for years now... > > If it is an external serial modem, then go through each ttyS port, you > can use minicom also to access your modem...Hopefully it isn't a win > modem, for most all of those do not work in linux... > > Hope this helps... > > Good luck, Larry > > Hi Mike, if you have a serial modem plugged in should be no problem, if you can't get it setup and working with pppconfig, and you stilI have an internal "winmodem" you may have to turn that one off in the bios, am not sure maybe someone more knowledgeable can elaborate on that, but have had similar problems on another machine, using an external serial modem that worked fine on my machine, but not on the other machine, (same version of Ubuntu) which had a winmodem inside. Hope this helps. Take Care Winton From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Feb 13 06:13:39 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:13:39 -0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: > That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there > mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to > check the authority behind that key. Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). But you can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email yesterday is the same person who wrote the email today if the signature match. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Feb 13 06:15:00 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:15:00 -0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171344776.5964.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8764a6h9cr.fsf@fjellstad.org> Duncan Lithgow writes: > My key is for example signed by one of the main Danish developers of > BSD - chances are quite high that you know someone who knows him. I > can't remember the math but it turns out that it's usually > surprisingly few degrees of separation between people. The weakness of > my key though - for example - is that it's only signed by people who > live in Denmark - so sometimes the connection may be a bit more > distant. Six degrees of separation? -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 08:00:25 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:00:25 +0000 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <45D17019.60805@manchester.ac.uk> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Tony Arnold writes: > >> It therefore becomes a question of degrees of trust. A document that has >> been signed with a key that has also been signed by a number of people >> increases that degree of trust, but as you say does not guarantee >> authorship. A signature based on a key that has not been signed by >> anybody is much less trustworthy. > > I don't see how the number of people signing a key makes it more > trustworthy unless you know at least one of the person who signed (and > then you only actually need that one person's signing). A bad guy could > just generate a bunch of new keys to sign the one key you are looking > at. Indeed that is true. In fact a really bad guy could generate a whole load of fake keys and use them to sign his own, which is why I siad it wasn't guaranteed. But on probability grounds a key signed by multiple people is likely to be more trustworthy than a totally unsigned key. And if it's signed by someone you know or someone you can trust, then even better. Phil Zimmerman, who invented PGP, used to sign keys at conventions etc or wherever he was appearing and I think you had to produce your passport before he would sign it. So, a key signed by Phil is likely top be reasonably trustworthy! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 13 08:40:50 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:40:50 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:13 -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: > > > That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there > > mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to > > check the authority behind that key. > > Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). But you > can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email yesterday is > the same person who wrote the email today if the signature match. Correction: *reasonably sure* It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the intervening night. > > -- > John L. Fjellstad > web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 08:54:19 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:54:19 +0100 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171344776.5964.12.camel@localhost> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171344776.5964.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow a écrit : > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 00:27 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> The way I understand it is just like Certificates use with SSL. The >> trust you put on a key depends on the security organization you are in. >> So I may have a key signed by the security team of my company, that key >> is trustworthy for anyone in that company but outside that company, it's >> not valuable at all. >> That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there >> mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to >> check the authority behind that key. > I think you're misunderstanding the way the "web of trust" works. It's > only got value of you find yourself in the other persons web of trust. > It's all to do with how many degrees of separation there are between you > and the person whose key you're looking at. If someone who you trust has > been thorough in checking the identity of the new key then you can trust > the new key. And that's the judgement you have to make: "Do I trust that > the person I know has checked this persons identity?" And if it's one > further step away the questions becomes: "Do I trust that the person I > know has only signed keys of people who he knows are thorough in > checking the identity of new keys they sign?" And so on. > > My key is for example signed by one of the main Danish developers of BSD > - chances are quite high that you know someone who knows him. I can't > remember the math but it turns out that it's usually surprisingly few > degrees of separation between people. The weakness of my key though - > for example - is that it's only signed by people who live in Denmark - > so sometimes the connection may be a bit more distant. > > I hope that was a useful explanation. It's quite different from the idea > of a highly trusted signing authority. > > Duncan > Well explained :) . From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 13 08:57:20 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:57:20 -0500 Subject: remote access In-Reply-To: <200702122110.16993.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702122110.16993.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1171357041.5603.12.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 21:10 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I'm trying to use vnc4viewer on an edgy box at work to connect to my > electronically comatose dad's home XP box. I have realvnc setup on the XP > box and it works from my home boxes, but the problem is that our corporate > network seems to be locked down tight (and I have no admin access nor am I > likely to). I can't ping any IP address that is outside the corporate > network, so I assume that the firewall is blocking access. > > How can I get through? If anyone has any suggestions, could you also point me > to some explicit instructions? If you can run an ssh server on your dad's machine, you could potentially use ssh and its proxycommand option to connect through your local firewall (which is probably either SOCKS or HTTP). I haven't tried to get around firewalls in a while, but you can press: Alt-F2 type: man:ssh_config and look at the ProxyCommand option to get a feel for how it works. As to running sshd on a windows machine, someone else will have to help out. Alternatively, there might be a way to get the vnc viewer to use netcat to connect through the proxy... > Thanks, > Paul > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 08:59:44 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:59:44 +0100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bjørn Ingmar Berg a écrit : > On 13/02/07, John Dangler wrote: >> I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same >> information) to get another serial number for the install to work. > > Even so you're among the lucky ones. Me? > Times done a complete registring: 2 > Serial numbers recieved: 0 > > > Bjørn Ingmar Berg > NO WAY !! :-p just kidding ;) I never missed it. every time I registered I got my keys. And I do it quite a lot :/ . From sergicles at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 09:02:19 2007 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:02:19 +1100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh On 13/02/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Bjørn Ingmar Berg a écrit : > > On 13/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > >> I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same > >> information) to get another serial number for the install to work. > > > > Even so you're among the lucky ones. Me? > > Times done a complete registring: 2 > > Serial numbers recieved: 0 > > > > > > Bjørn Ingmar Berg > > > NO WAY !! :-p > > just kidding ;) > I never missed it. every time I registered I got my keys. And I do it > quite a lot :/ . > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Serg From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 09:31:07 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:31:07 +0100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Serg B. a écrit : > Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh > The key differs from a version to another, it seems From alex at got-root.me.uk Tue Feb 13 09:47:53 2007 From: alex at got-root.me.uk (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:47:53 +0000 Subject: Dell Laptop LCD Resolution In-Reply-To: References: <1171172891.4959.7.camel@ubuntu.domain> <45D0A0A7.50501@got-root.me.uk> Message-ID: <45D18949.1050401@got-root.me.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > I don't use it. On a fresh edgy install just before Christmas, mine was > supported right away - avoiding the hard work I went to to set it up last > year. Some people have indeed been unable to use it without 915resolution, > but it _is_ an ugly hack and should be used only as a last resort. > I stand corrected then :) Cheers, Alex From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 13 09:48:42 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:48:42 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:13 -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: >> >>> That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there >>> mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to >>> check the authority behind that key. >> Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). But you >> can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email yesterday is >> the same person who wrote the email today if the signature match. > > Correction: *reasonably sure* > > It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the > intervening night. Also true, but that's what revocation certificates (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are for. Constant vigilance. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 09:54:04 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:54:04 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45D17019.60805@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <45D17019.60805@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20070213045404.57b27028@chisel> Tony Arnold wrote: > Phil Zimmerman, who invented PGP, used to sign keys at conventions etc > or wherever he was appearing and I think you had to produce your > passport before he would sign it. So, a key signed by Phil is likely > top be reasonably trustworthy! This is exactly the sort of thing someone attacking PGP likes to hear. ;) You're assigning trust where you shouldn't because you blindly believe PRZ's signature on a key helps make it "authentic". So getting a PRZ endorsement becomes a very easily exploitable and reliable way to wedge yourself into the whole digital signature process. This is a prime example of how security is often more about how a system can be exploited than it is about how robust the tools are. Passports are trivial to forge, and PRZ would have had no prior knowledge of most or any of these peoples' identities. Those things alone make this sort of "puppy mill" key signing less than useless. An actual, real life breach of protocol that should have never happened, let alone be trusted. :( -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cp at ccil.org Tue Feb 13 10:02:25 2007 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:02:25 -0500 Subject: New kernel and nvidia driver, and multiple resolutions after edgy install Message-ID: This issue is important for Kathy since she has really bad eyesight and has gotten used to extra desktop space. I just installed edgy for my friend Kathy and now her multiple resolutions don't work. ie. Cntrl-Alt-+/- doesn't do anything. The X.org log shows it other validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" (II) NVIDIA(0): "1024x768" (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600" (II) NVIDIA(0): "640x480" (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 I am using the same xorg.conf that worked for her breezy setup. How do I fix this one? And now that I upgraded the to the new kernel, kdm won't start at all with that kernel. I tried reinstalling the kernel thinking it might help... For the time being I changed the boot order in grub. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chuck From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 10:33:35 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:33:35 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:13 -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: > >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: > >> > >>> That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing > >>> there mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We > >>> have no way to check the authority behind that key. > >> Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). > >> But you can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email > >> yesterday is the same person who wrote the email today if the > >> signature match. > > > > Correction: *reasonably sure* > > > > It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the > > intervening night. > > Also true, but that's what revocation certificates > (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are > for. Constant vigilance. If your keys have been compromised a revocation certificate is mostly useless. In fact a nefariously created revocation certificate is one potential attack vector. Imagine the fun you'd have trying to reestablish a secure communication channel starting from scratch, when someone has effectively demolished the mechanism you were using to authenticate yourself. :( Yet another reason PGP should never be used for proof of identity... -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 13 10:42:47 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:42:47 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> Message-ID: <45D19627.6010904@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Michael R. Head wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:13 -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: >>>> Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: >>>> >>>>> That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing >>>>> there mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We >>>>> have no way to check the authority behind that key. >>>> Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). >>>> But you can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email >>>> yesterday is the same person who wrote the email today if the >>>> signature match. >>> Correction: *reasonably sure* >>> >>> It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the >>> intervening night. >> Also true, but that's what revocation certificates >> (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are >> for. Constant vigilance. > > If your keys have been compromised a revocation certificate is mostly > useless. Eh? An attacker can sometimes create a false revocation certificate, but that doesn't stop you from creating a real one. It's true that it won't propagate perfectly over automated systems, but you can also use the same out-of-band communications you should have used to establish your identity. In fact a nefariously created revocation certificate is one > potential attack vector. Imagine the fun you'd have trying to > reestablish a secure communication channel starting from scratch, when > someone has effectively demolished the mechanism you were using to > authenticate yourself. :( That's true, but a totally separate issue. > Yet another reason PGP should never be used for proof of identity... No, you establish your identity (i.e. tie a real-world identity to a given key) separately (in person), then use PGP to show that key is the source of a message. All security mechanisms are vulnerable if you lose the secret. So, don't do that then. PGP is not unique, and is better than most because you're not supposed to share a secret with anyone (unlike e.g. passwords). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ogra at ubuntu.com Tue Feb 13 11:27:37 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:27:37 +0100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171366057.6996.188.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Di, 2007-02-13 at 20:02 +1100, Serg B. wrote: > Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh please watch your language. ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rpowersau at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 11:35:43 2007 From: rpowersau at gmail.com (rpowersau at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:35:43 +0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> References: <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <476484250702130335m40b71ed8t1ecfd7854ba1feae@mail.gmail.com> On 2/13/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:13 -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: > >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz writes: > >> > >>> That's why, when I see some people on some mailing list signing there > >>> mail using PGP I just wonder what they want to prove. We have no way to > >>> check the authority behind that key. > >> Authority has nothing to do with (unless you know the person). But you > >> can be sure that the person who claims he wrote an email yesterday is > >> the same person who wrote the email today if the signature match. > > > > Correction: *reasonably sure* > > > > It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the > > intervening night. > > Also true, but that's what revocation certificates > (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are for. > Constant vigilance. Your key is not something physical that you would notice was missing. It could be hours/days/weeks before you realise. Revocation is not much use until you are aware the key has been stolen. > > Matthew Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Regards, Russ From funkytwig at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 11:53:54 2007 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:53:54 +0100 Subject: Problem burning DVD / Who to assign to in launchpad In-Reply-To: References: <32b873ff0702061306q4b8d1727q83acd453097b1e8f@mail.gmail.com> <45C9198D.6090300@gatech.edu> <32b873ff0702070221x5712582di52907b2a411b45ee@mail.gmail.com> <1171023471.7703.54.camel@edubuntu> <32b873ff0702090508wf5238fbk40233d49607719dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <32b873ff0702130353w1eb64745u826fb2b6230ef2ad@mail.gmail.com> On 09/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Ben Edwards wrote: > > > On 09/02/07, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> hi, > >> On Mi, 2007-02-07 at 11:21 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote: > >> > > I would try CDRtools > >> > > (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+filebug) first. It > >> > > may be reassigned, but that's a decent start. > >> > > >> > I can not assign the bur to CDRtools (or cdrtools) . > >> you dont assign bugs to packges, you file them on a package, the > >> developer team then decides which *person* gets it assigned ... > >> the link above is perfectly right to file the bug on cdrtools, > >> assignment will be done by the dev team then. > > > > OK, think the original question may of got lost. I am trying to > > assign bug #15424, which was on the dvd+rw-tools package, to a team. > > My question was what team/person to assign the bug to > > No, the question wasn't lost. _You_ don't assign bugs. Sure I have previously assigned bugs to a team but could of remembered wrong. I thought someone said it was good to assign a bug to the correct team so it becomes more viable to them. But it is not possible I must of remembered wrong ;(. > > . The (eronius) > > That's not very nice. Oliver should have a pretty good idea of the > mechanisms involved. Oliver gave you the right answer. I was not saying it was not due to my badly communicated question, sorry. Only eronus because the answer was not specified too well ;) > > > answer was to file the bug against cdrtools (which I misunderstood as > > meaning there is a team called this);(. I have now changed the > > package to cdrtools so hopefully it will get picked up. It looks like > > the dvd+rw-tools is a black hole as the bug was created over a year > > ago and has not be assigned to anyone. > > If there are no maintainers, it may not get assigned. If there is only one, > he may not bother assigning it. If they're waiting for a fix that already > exists upstream, it probably wouldn't get assigned. More importantly, one > would want to know if the bug status had ever been changed. I think it was changed to confirmed but will look tonight. Ben > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Ben Edwards - Brussels, Belgium & Bristol, UK If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From pubmb01 at skynet.be Tue Feb 13 12:08:33 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:08:33 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702121836.12015.pubmb02@skynet.be> Message-ID: <200702131308.33943.pubmb01@skynet.be> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 04:23:25 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/13/07, Bruno wrote: > > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only > > > > works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work > > > > if there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and > > > > reboot) > > > > > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I > > > > tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since > > > > chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd > > > > dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > > > selinux-policy-default > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or > > > > > directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > > > Bye, > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carpe Diem > > > > > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add selinux=1 as > > > a kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > > > However getenforce allways return disabled. > > > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > > > > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > > > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place after > > > reboot. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bruno > > > > It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in /var/log/messages : > > ... > > Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a ro > > quiet splash selinux=1 > > SELinux: Initializing. > > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > > SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks > > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability > > ... > > but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux start > > does'nt complete. > > > > > > Bye, > > Bruno > > Make sure you have policycoreutils and checkpolicy installed, > > I have the similar problem before on Selinux, I solved it by > > 1. --purging the entire selinux installation > 2. Install policycoreutils, selinux-refpolicy-targeted, and lastly > install selinux-policy-basic. Then relabel. > > I'm also trying to make a policy that would work on enforcing mode. > Currently, the selinux-policy-targeted can work with enforcing mode if > some daemons is to be turned off (syslogd), and must boot the kernel > in read-write, I also set the fsck to autofix=yes. > > I hope this helps, > Joel > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- > Carpe Diem Hi Joel, could you confirm or detail package 'selinux-refpolicy-targeted' please ? I cannot find it... Many thanks. Bye, Bruno From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 12:29:46 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:29:46 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45D19627.6010904@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> <45D19627.6010904@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070213072946.69a56ce3@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >>> It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the > >>> intervening night. > >> Also true, but that's what revocation certificates > >> (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are > >> for. Constant vigilance. > > > > If your keys have been compromised a revocation certificate is > > mostly useless. > > Eh? An attacker can sometimes create a false revocation certificate, > but that doesn't stop you from creating a real one. It's true that it There's no "can sometimes" about it. If your keys are compromised in this context an attacker can create revocation certificates all day long. And neither the valid nor the invalid revocation certificate carries with it any mechanism at all to make a determination. That's the whole point. Revocation certificates are very useful as tools to deal with inadvertently destroyed or unusable keys where physical security is a known quantity, not for identifying compromised keys. The only way to do that is to reestablish a credible secure presence and disclaim the old one. Anything less is quite literally using a known broken tool to validate something it's not generally designed to validate to begin with. And that's just silly no matter which way you slice it. > won't propagate perfectly over automated systems, but you can also use > the same out-of-band communications you should have used to establish > your identity. Out of band has nothing at all to do with this. Yes it's a valid way to establish some level of personal credibility, but that credibility doesn't scale to digital certificates at all like you seem to believe it does. Even knowing someone all your life and watching them generate a key in person right after the blood tests is meaningless once you leave the room, without a considerable amount of investment that has nothing at all to do with PGP. Worse than meaningless in fact, because you carry with you a high level of trust regarding that key and the process you're leaning on to support that trust has absolutely no mechanism for supporting anything like it at all. > > In fact a nefariously created revocation certificate is one > > potential attack vector. Imagine the fun you'd have trying to > > reestablish a secure communication channel starting from scratch, > > when someone has effectively demolished the mechanism you were > > using to authenticate yourself. :( > > That's true, but a totally separate issue. No, it's *the* issue. There's any number of ways this sort of digital signature scheme can be trivially exploited or simply fail under its own weight. A "DoS" attack perpetrated by forged/bogus revocation certificates is just one of the inherent weaknesses that make PGP signatures so unsuitable for proof of authorship that most experts in the field people consider them utterly useless. PGP is nearly ideal for keeping data out of the hands of those who don't hold keys, and guaranteeing data hasn't been altered. Not for providing authenticity or proving authorship. > > > Yet another reason PGP should never be used for proof of identity... > > No, you establish your identity (i.e. tie a real-world identity to a > given key) separately (in person), then use PGP to show that key is > the source of a message. As I've stated quite plainly several times already, there are ways to help give digital certificates the sort of credibility far to many people assign to them as a default. They're generally either unmanageable to the point of being ludicrous for most laypersons needs or fraught with their own perils. Regardless of that, verifying someones identity at the time of key exchange is such a small part of any of it that it's almost irrelevant. The verification process itself is exploitable, and it offers absolutely *zero* forward security. So verification itself requires a high degree of complexity to be reliable, and evaporates when you blink. > > All security mechanisms are vulnerable if you lose the secret. So, > don't do that then. PGP is not unique, and is better than most > because you're not supposed to share a secret with anyone (unlike > e.g. passwords). Irrelevant. What's "suppose" to happen, what "can happen", and whether or not some protocol or mechanism addresses what happens in reality are completely unrelated. The bottom line fact is that PGP/GnuPG do so little to verify a key holder's identity that if you want any reasonable level of trust you have to look elsewhere. Plain and simple. Note: GnuPG2 with its evolving smart card support is *one* direction that's being explored to address these very real, and developer acknowledged weaknesses. If you assume that a certain authentication token can't be duplicated and is issued under tightly controlled circumstances then you *do* begin to add some amount of plausible reliability that a signer is an identifiable author. But even this is still in it's infant stages and not anywhere near ready to be trusted outside the realm of a "community laboratory", if you will. Once again, there simply is no reliable method of proving "digital identity" currently available. It's been a problem for decades that's not much closer to a solution now than it was when the issue was first raised. To be blunt about it, what you believe in or trust, and even what may or may not be legally binding, are meaningless. There's always the underlying mathematics to contend with, and those numbers just don't add up on any modern deterministic computing device. Sorry. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ynd at lntenc.com Tue Feb 13 12:40:26 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:10:26 +0530 Subject: X-server and Windows display setting equivalent Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynd at lntenc.com Tue Feb 13 13:40:51 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:10:51 +0530 Subject: Fluxbox issue with Dapper Drake Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcb at digitalanswers.biz Tue Feb 13 13:49:32 2007 From: rcb at digitalanswers.biz (Rick Chagouri-Brindle) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:49:32 +0000 Subject: New kernel and nvidia driver, and multiple resolutions after edgy install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D1C1EC.7070500@digitalanswers.biz> > And now that I upgraded the to the new kernel, kdm won't start at all > with that kernel. I tried reinstalling the kernel thinking it might > help... For the time being I changed the boot order in grub. Any > suggestions? > > > I had this too, following the recent update, but I fixed it by uninstalling the nvidia drivers, reconfiguring xserver-xorg (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg). Rebooting then starts kdm using the standard nv drivers. Then I reinstalled the nvidia drivers. Good luck ! From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 13 14:02:30 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:02:30 +1100 Subject: X-server and Windows display setting equivalent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070214010230.160af260.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:10:26 +0530 Yagnesh Desai wrote: > While if I change the DefaultColorDepth to 32 from 24 the GUI won't start. > > I do not know if these two display settings are equivalent or not. I want to check if there > is any further scope of improvement in my display settings by modifying xorg.conf. My understanding of this is that yes, 24 bit on Linux is equivalent to 32 bit on windows - the missing 8 bits are allocated to an alpha channel in Linux if I remember correctly. So 24 is correct, and 32 won't work, as you discovered :) Peter From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 13 13:32:32 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:32:32 -0400 Subject: firewall References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> <1171342226.10534.117.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > Thanks, Lorenzo. I'm reading up on fireHOL. I already got most of my > apps up and running, including dar (kdar bailed hard when I tried to > install it on gnome). Too bad, because it rocks in KDE :-) I guess I need to check out fireHOL, since I've been playing with firewall software this week. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 13 13:37:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:37:35 -0400 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Serg B. wrote: > Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh That's neither polite or necessary. I tried to put my key in my KDE wallet, and twice it failed to save it. Fortunately, I also saved it in Windows Notepad :-( -- derek From PNewberry at habitat.org Tue Feb 13 14:17:46 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:17:46 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <20070212120834.1ff430e9@chisel> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel><45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel><45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel><45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel><45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel><45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu><4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <20070212120834.1ff430e9@chisel> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081085DE30@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> --> What error exactly? I'm getting the error message Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect When trying to bring a php page up and with code to connect to a mysql database. Now the odd thing is that I could type http://localhost/myfile.php in the opera browser and it would open up and I could run the command phpinfo(); without problem However I could not do the same thing in firefox! Seem odd that local host would work with one browser and not another on the same machine. Like I said I was in the opera browser I was getting the message: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect However regular echo statments worked just fine. Ok so Then I just said heck, I'll start using the old apt-get --reinstall install for the mysql modules per the dapper instructions. Well when I finished Then I could not open my php script in either opera or firefox! Well at least it was consistant! I when to the apache2.conf file and commented out this line AddType application/x-httpd-php .php Then did the restart of apache but still I php scripts are not executing. Not sure if this means anything, but when I do the apache restart I get the message: * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName > > You haven't said whether or not you've set up MySQL administrative or > host access, or even checked to see if it's bound to a proper > port:interface... > I have setup Mysql administrative and when I access that app thru the gnome menu it comes up but when I attempt to access user admin it just hangs up. I can log in via a terminal session with mysql -u root -p and do the updates and show database stuff. > What's your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file have in it for a bind-address? > My bind address is the standard 127.0.0.1 > What does the output of 'netstat -tap' tell you about mysql, if > anything? Note: I noticed that when I bring up mysql administrator it defaults to port 3306) it seems to connect but gets hung up when I try to do user admin. I tried to use 3291 but still seemed need to fool with this a bit more on my own. anyway here is the netstat -tap results. Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 *:netbios-ssn *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 localhost:2482 *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 localhost:4662 *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 localhost:ipp *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 *:microsoft-ds *:* LISTEN - tcp 0 0 localhost:2653 localhost:2482 ESTABLISHED- tcp 0 0 localhost:2482 localhost:2653 ESTABLISHED- tcp 0 0 localhost:3291 localhost:mysql ESTABLISHED10599/mysql-admin tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql localhost:3291 ESTABLISHED- tcp6 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN - > > What do the outputs of 'hostname' and 'hostname -f' say? > hostname -f localhost > Have you issued commands similar to these to set up MySQL? > I can connect no problem via mysql -u root password do use database name and create tables etc. Anyway, I guess number one issue I'll look at tommorow is why php scripts are not being recognized by my browser but html files (via localhost) are being recognized. Pat www.gypsyfarm.com From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 13 14:18:18 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:18:18 +1100 Subject: Fluxbox issue with Dapper Drake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070214011818.94a80b91.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:10:51 +0530 Yagnesh Desai wrote: > I installed the fluxbox and when I login to the fluxbox session I find only mouse > and a blank blue screen. Is there any way what I can configure the fluxbox menu. Yes, fluxbox can be a bit confusing :) There should be *some* default entries in the menu if you right-click the desktop though ( at least xterm, maybe a couple of others ) There are several ways to obtain a more complete menu. The system wide file is /usr/share/fluxbox/menu You can copy this to ~/.fluxbox/menu and use it as a template to customise your menu - there is information about this at the documentation I link below. Another way to generate a menu is to install the "menu" package, which is the "Debian" menu. Then run " sudo update-menus " . After this any package you install should be added to the "Debian" menu. The downside, if you dislike it ( I don't dislike it, but you might) , is that this will add a "Debian" submenu to your Gnome menu. There are good fluxbox docs at http://fluxbox.org/docbook.php Note, though, that the Ubuntu fluxbox package appears not to have the "fluxbox-generate_menu " command ( at least, the dapper version lacks this IIRC ). I compile fluxbox myself and use the latest version from the fluxbox.org site, but the Ubuntu version is quite OK. Peter From PNewberry at habitat.org Tue Feb 13 14:26:04 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:26:04 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc><20070210055447.073710ea@chisel><45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net><20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel><45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc><20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel><45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu><20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel><45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu><20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel><45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu><4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081085DE5D@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> I did run apt_get install php5-mysql last night, in fact used apt-get --reinstall for several things per the dapper guide hoping to correct any problems I might have created earlier, but now having a problem with my apache not working with php scripts. It keeps asking me what if I want to download the file or search for an application to process it. I when to the apache2.conf file and commented out this line AddType application/x-httpd-php .php Thinking that maybe that was the problem. Restarted apache before checking of course. It got late last night and will look at it some more tonight. Pat. -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Brad Johnson Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:57 PM To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions Subject: Re: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 09:46 -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > I installed apache, php5 and mysql via apt-get sudo apt-get install php5-mysql It adds mysql support to php5 Brad -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From sergicles at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 14:42:04 2007 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:42:04 +1100 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0702130642r6bf9f45aj5cc1bdf85ffff99f@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, that was meant to be a joke rather then an insult... No offense intended :) Serg On 14/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Serg B. wrote: > > > Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh > > That's neither polite or necessary. I tried to put my key in my KDE wallet, > and twice it failed to save it. Fortunately, I also saved it in Windows > Notepad :-( > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Serg From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 14:59:09 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:59:09 +0100 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler a écrit : > I've been using firestarter for my iptables maintenance, but have heard > a lot of chatter about firehol. Anyone on the list have a preference > for one over the other? > > (I hand-wrote my iptables rulesets for my server, but for the > workstation and laptop, I just want to be a _user_) > > I love GuardDog (+ GuideDog if you want to use it on a router) http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/ From michael_staar at earthlink.net Tue Feb 13 15:23:08 2007 From: michael_staar at earthlink.net (Staar) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:23:08 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Modem Problem Message-ID: <14028931.1171380188873.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Setting up the internal modem was unsuccessful. After I set up the external modem I purchased and used pppconfig it worked fine. I had to add a parameter though: pppconfig to get it to work. pon/poff also worked for me for connection/disconnecting when I added the after the command. The speed was ridiculously slow though even for dialup. It was connecting at only 12mbps. Can I assume this is because of the provider? He also found it too difficult to open a terminal window and typing just the few commands. He's spoiled since I had shortcuts for him on Xandros. Again, the person using this machine is a total newbie. He has a hard time finding all the keys on the keyboard! Is it possible to write/execute a script that issues the commands and place a shortcut to it on the 'desktop'? Also, his wife loved the solitaire game that came with Xandros, but of coarse doesn't like the one that comes with Ubuntu and is begging me to get it back. She hates how slow the cards move. I know it's a ridiculous request, but is there a place to download more versions of solitaire for Ubuntu? The os in general seems to be slow as well and takes a while to just navigate around. Is there a way to speed it up a little? It's a 10 year old Compaq with a P4 and I believe 256MB ram. That should be more than enough right? I talked him into going with dsl so that should improve their experience greatly. Again, thanks to everyone for their input. Trying to get support like this for Windows is impossible! -----Original Message----- >From: Peter Garrett >Sent: Feb 12, 2007 7:28 PM >To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not > for general discussions" , Staar >Subject: Re: Modem Problem > >On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:13:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) >Staar wrote: > >> If I purchased an external modem, would I have to worry about a different driver every time I change distros? > >External serial modems "just work" - they don't rely on software like >WInmodems, and no modem drivers are required COM 1 is ttyS0 , COM 2 is >ttyS1 and so on . > >There are several ways to configure the connection. I am no longer on >dial-up, but I always had the best results using the "pppconfig" utility. >To configure the connection you type > >sudo pppconfig > >To connect and disconnect, use the "pon" and "poff" commands respectively. > >You can, of course, make a launcher buttton or icon for the commands. An >easier ( GUI) way is the KDE "kppp" tool. For some reason the Gnome tools >seem to produce slow connections, unless this has been fixed in Ubuntu >6.10 . > >Peter > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 13 16:46:03 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:46:03 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <20070213072946.69a56ce3@chisel> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> <45D19627.6010904@gatech.edu> <20070213072946.69a56ce3@chisel> Message-ID: <45D1EB4B.1040602@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >>>>> It's entirely possible that the guy's keys were stolen in the >>>>> intervening night. >>>> Also true, but that's what revocation certificates >>>> (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-key-revocation.html) are >>>> for. Constant vigilance. >>> If your keys have been compromised a revocation certificate is >>> mostly useless. >> Eh? An attacker can sometimes create a false revocation certificate, >> but that doesn't stop you from creating a real one. It's true that it > > There's no "can sometimes" about it. If your keys are compromised > in this context an attacker can create revocation certificates all day > long. Right. That's not the only kind of attack on PGP though. > And neither the valid nor the invalid revocation certificate > carries with it any mechanism at all to make a determination. That's > the whole point. Which means you should never use a revoked key, because it *could* have been compromised. > Out of band has nothing at all to do with this. Yes it's a valid way > to establish some level of personal credibility, but that credibility > doesn't scale to digital certificates at all like you seem to believe > it does. Even knowing someone all your life and watching them generate > a key in person right after the blood tests is meaningless once you > leave the room, without a considerable amount of investment that has > nothing at all to do with PGP. How's that? If I identify them in person, then get their key, I can be sure that all messages generated by that key were made by them. > No, it's *the* issue. There's any number of ways this sort of digital > signature scheme can be trivially exploited or simply fail under its > own weight. A "DoS" attack perpetrated by forged/bogus revocation > certificates is just one of the inherent weaknesses that make PGP > signatures so unsuitable for proof of authorship that most > experts in the field people consider them utterly useless. A (possibly fake) revocation makes them suddenly unsuitable, but between verification out-of-band and key revocation/expiry, why can't it work as a proof of authorship? > As I've stated quite plainly several times already, there are ways to > help give digital certificates the sort of credibility far to many > people assign to them as a default. They're generally either > unmanageable to the point of being ludicrous for most laypersons needs > or fraught with their own perils. How is it ludicrous to meet a close friend in person to exchange keys? > Regardless of that, verifying someones > identity at the time of key exchange is such a small part of any of it > that it's almost irrelevant. The verification process itself is > exploitable, and it offers absolutely *zero* forward security. So > verification itself requires a high degree of complexity to be > reliable, and evaporates when you blink. I have no idea what you're talking about. Once a key is personally verified, it's usable until/unless a secret key is compromised. > >> All security mechanisms are vulnerable if you lose the secret. So, >> don't do that then. PGP is not unique, and is better than most >> because you're not supposed to share a secret with anyone (unlike >> e.g. passwords). > > Irrelevant. What's "suppose" to happen, what "can happen", and whether > or not some protocol or mechanism addresses what happens in reality are > completely unrelated. The bottom line fact is that PGP/GnuPG do so > little to verify a key holder's identity that if you want any > reasonable level of trust you have to look elsewhere. Plain and simple. > > > Once again, there simply is no reliable method of proving "digital > identity" currently available. I keep saying that you don't prove your identify digitally. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From steven at nchc.org.tw Tue Feb 13 16:57:05 2007 From: steven at nchc.org.tw (steven at nchc.org.tw) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:57:05 +0800 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy Message-ID: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> Hi Scott and others, I am using Ubuntu Edgy. The upstart is 0.2.7-7. When I tried to enter runlevel 1 by put "1" in kernel boot param in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for example: ---------------- title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11-generic root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 1 splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-generic quiet savedefault boot ---------------- My edgy box still enters runlevel 2. Is this a normal situation ? Does anyone has same problem ? Thanks in advance. -- Steven Shiau From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Feb 13 16:11:36 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:11:36 -0800 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <45D17019.60805@manchester.ac.uk> <20070213045404.57b27028@chisel> Message-ID: <87ps8evxzb.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" writes: > This is a prime example of how security is often more about how a > system can be exploited than it is about how robust the tools are. > Passports are trivial to forge, and PRZ would have had no prior > knowledge of most or any of these peoples' identities. Those things > alone make this sort of "puppy mill" key signing less than useless. An > actual, real life breach of protocol that should have never happened, > let alone be trusted. :( Security or convenience, choose one :-) Or should that be :-( -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 17:11:35 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:11:35 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081085DE30@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <20070212120834.1ff430e9@chisel> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081085DE30@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <20070213121135.52c33ef3@chisel> Patrick Newberry wrote: > --> What error exactly? > I'm getting the error message > Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect > When trying to bring a php page up and with code to connect to a mysql > database. I later realized your subject line included the error. My bad for not being more on the ball, but it's generally not advisable to include message content in the Subject: header. ;) That's typically an indication php5-mysql isn't installed, but you specifically said you had installed it. There's also a php5-mysqli (the "improved" version), but that too should have been installed as a dependency. It might not hurt to double check though. [...] > Well when I finished Then I could not open my php script in either > opera or firefox! Well at least it was consistant! > > I when to the apache2.conf file and commented out this line > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > Then did the restart of apache but still I php scripts are not > executing. Yes. Without being aware of a .php MIME type Apache has no idea what to do with those files. This is actually one way to globally disable execution of PHP for security reasons if you plan to selectively enable PHP later. There's also some entries in /etc/mime.types and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf. ;) > > Not sure if this means anything, but when I do the apache restart I > get the message: > * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not > determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 > for ServerName What do 'hostname' *and* 'hostname -f' output? They should both be the same, and ideally a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) as you've set up in /etc/hosts. You may also have to edit /etc/hostname to reflect your server's full name. Even if you don't have an "official" domain you should set up something and make it consistent to prevent these errors and give things like MySQL a "reference point" from which to work. A server really does need a unique name or all sorts of strangeness can occur. [...] Since you can log in, create and query databases, etc... we'll assume MySQL is *mostly* OK for now. ;) > > What's your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file have in it for a bind-address? > > > My bind address is the standard 127.0.0.1 I'd open up /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the bind address line, at least for now. It will allow MySQL to listen on all interfaces and maybe fix up your problems connecting with one browser and not another. There may be differences in how "localhost" is resolved between various softwares that this, and/or a strictly configured host name, would address. > anyway here is the netstat -tap results. > > Active Internet connections (servers and established) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address > State PID/Program name > tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql *:* > LISTEN - Yes. This reflects the bind address in my.cnf. If for some reason Apache is resolving your machine name as something like localhost.localdomain (a default in /etc/hosts I believe) it might be a problem. > Anyway, I guess number one issue I'll look at tommorow is why php > scripts are not being recognized by my browser but html files (via > localhost) are being recognized. That's pretty obvious... you've told Apache to "ignore" them. ;) So out of curiosity what is the Apache2 default? To display the file as text or offer it up for download? -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 17:21:32 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:21:32 -0500 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171387292.10534.129.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 07:39 +0100, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > On 13/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > > I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same > > information) to get another serial number for the install to work. > > Even so you're among the lucky ones. Me? > Times done a complete registring: 2 > Serial numbers recieved: 0 hehe - try calling their support (as I did)... The customer support people there are like calling Microsoft. They ask for your customer number... if you tell them you only need some general information, they tell you the url of the web site and basically end the call... > > > Bjørn Ingmar Berg > > -- > > blog.bergcube.net/ > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 17:23:23 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:23:23 -0500 Subject: [CANCELED]Re: vmware-server on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171338957.10534.107.camel@croatus> <1171341750.10534.111.camel@croatus> <379ea5900702122239n27c0d687uc62c420943f5bd32@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0702130102m5e68dd84pba8d4074cb2947e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171387403.10534.131.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 20:02 +1100, Serg B. wrote: > Why not just keep a note of the key... retards heh because every time a new build comes out for the open source vmware products, the serial changes. > > On 13/02/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Bjørn Ingmar Berg a écrit : > > > On 13/02/07, John Dangler wrote: > > >> I actually had to go and register again (using all of the exact same > > >> information) to get another serial number for the install to work. > > > > > > Even so you're among the lucky ones. Me? > > > Times done a complete registring: 2 > > > Serial numbers recieved: 0 > > > > > > > > > Bjørn Ingmar Berg > > > > > NO WAY !! :-p > > > > just kidding ;) > > I never missed it. every time I registered I got my keys. And I do it > > quite a lot :/ . > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > Serg From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 17:30:31 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:30:31 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> <1171342226.10534.117.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171387831.10534.139.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 09:32 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > Thanks, Lorenzo. I'm reading up on fireHOL. I already got most of my > > apps up and running, including dar (kdar bailed hard when I tried to > > install it on gnome). > > Too bad, because it rocks in KDE :-) yeah - it's one of those packages that (i guess) you just need to have the entire kde environment installed in order for it to run. I really that was the case with clamtk... I installed it to see what it does over the commandline tool... It installed a TON of kde stuff with it, and on a clean install of Edgy (according to the gui) found 17 viruses. Looking through the 125,000 files it scanned, it didn't mark ANY of the files as infected. Then I run sudo clamscan -r -i / from commandline... everything checks out ok (like I would think it should)... so clamtk is definitely junk (IMO), so it's coming off > > I guess I need to check out fireHOL, since I've been playing with firewall > software this week. > -- > derek > > From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 17:46:36 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:46:36 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <45D1EB4B.1040602@gatech.edu> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87abzih9f0.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1171356050.5603.8.camel@localhost> <45D1897A.50504@gatech.edu> <20070213053335.02ddacdc@chisel> <45D19627.6010904@gatech.edu> <20070213072946.69a56ce3@chisel> <45D1EB4B.1040602@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070213124636.24333aa7@chisel> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > And neither the valid nor the invalid revocation certificate > > carries with it any mechanism at all to make a determination. That's > > the whole point. > > Which means you should never use a revoked key, because it *could* > have been compromised. Within this sphere of influence it's foolish to assume that if something can be done, it has not. Indeed, one of the most basic premises of cryptography and security in general is to assume that it *has* without irrefutable proof to the contrary. ;) > > Out of band has nothing at all to do with this. Yes it's a valid way > > to establish some level of personal credibility, but that > > credibility doesn't scale to digital certificates at all like you > > seem to believe it does. Even knowing someone all your life and > > watching them generate a key in person right after the blood tests > > is meaningless once you leave the room, without a considerable > > amount of investment that has nothing at all to do with PGP. > > How's that? If I identify them in person, then get their key, I can > be sure that all messages generated by that key were made by them. How?? What proof do you have other than your own blind trust that the key wasn't compromised even before you verified the identity of its owner? Let alone after. What magic are you going to invoke that makes your chosen proof of identification and personal sense of "trust" anywhere *near* as secure as say... properly implemented AES or RIPEMD160? The crucial point you're missing here is that some functions performed by PGP are mathematically proved and some are only a "convenience". The ability to tie any identity at all to a given key pair is one of the latter type functions. It's not cryptographically secure, in fact it's not cryptographically supported in the least. You're arguing that the key-to-identity relationship is somehow supported by PGP and "secure" after verifying identity at some point in time when it quite obviously is not. > > No, it's *the* issue. There's any number of ways this sort of > > digital signature scheme can be trivially exploited or simply fail > > under its own weight. A "DoS" attack perpetrated by forged/bogus > > revocation certificates is just one of the inherent weaknesses that > > make PGP signatures so unsuitable for proof of authorship that most > > experts in the field people consider them utterly useless. > > A (possibly fake) revocation makes them suddenly unsuitable, but > between verification out-of-band and key revocation/expiry, why can't > it work as a proof of authorship? The potential for false revocation certificates to invalidate the signing process doesn't "make anything" one way or another. It's an example of the result, not a causative. > > As I've stated quite plainly several times already, there are ways > > to help give digital certificates the sort of credibility far to > > many people assign to them as a default. They're generally either > > unmanageable to the point of being ludicrous for most laypersons > > needs or fraught with their own perils. > > How is it ludicrous to meet a close friend in person to exchange keys? It's not, and I never said it was. I said it's not secure to rely on that sort of cursory validation for forward security, and that most methods which *are* secure in that respect are "ludicrous" in the context of average, noncritical usage. My last comment to the thread, it's off topic anyway. :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 17:54:31 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:54:31 -0500 Subject: About PGP Signing a File. In-Reply-To: <87ps8evxzb.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45CEC4A9.5000908@gatech.edu> <1171185340.19816.13.camel@croatus> <45CEE020.6070504@manchester.ac.uk> <20070211053005.39ca4bbe@chisel> <45CEF6B2.5040909@manchester.ac.uk> <874ppr56vn.fsf@fjellstad.org> <45D17019.60805@manchester.ac.uk> <20070213045404.57b27028@chisel> <87ps8evxzb.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <20070213125431.7d0c5c03@chisel> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" writes: > > > This is a prime example of how security is often more about how a > > system can be exploited than it is about how robust the tools are. > > Passports are trivial to forge, and PRZ would have had no prior > > knowledge of most or any of these peoples' identities. Those things > > alone make this sort of "puppy mill" key signing less than useless. > > An actual, real life breach of protocol that should have never > > happened, let alone be trusted. :( > > Security or convenience, choose one :-) Or should that be :-( Exactly!! :) The ability to attach a Name to a PGP key is no more than an "economic necessity" which far too many folk mistake for a form of security. For a large number of users, maybe even a majority, the issue of identity isn't critical enough to fret over. But it's important to recognize the difference between ergonomics and security for those minority scenarios where it is. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The customer support > people there are like calling Microsoft. They ask for your customer > number... if you tell them you only need some general information, they > tell you the url of the web site and basically end the call... LOL, I know what you mean :) but that's understandable . They won't take time to support non-costumers. I wouldn't either :p . From gyrotech at freakinabox.com Tue Feb 13 19:07:31 2007 From: gyrotech at freakinabox.com (GyroTech) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:07:31 +0000 Subject: e2fsck on lvm problems In-Reply-To: <45D10D7C.60701@freakinabox.com> References: <45D10D7C.60701@freakinabox.com> Message-ID: <45D20C73.9020400@freakinabox.com> It seems, even with the file systems problems, it can still be mounted and used. Unfortunately, I cannot use resize2fs to extend it though, and that was the point of the exercise. Any ideas?? GT From electricalsciences at adelphia.net Tue Feb 13 19:11:45 2007 From: electricalsciences at adelphia.net (Roby) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:11:45 -0500 Subject: No Broacast, no connection! (network manager issue) References: <200702131516.29602.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Message-ID: Ricardo C O Freitas wrote: > Hi there! > > I have an atheros pci card on a 6.06 Ubuntu desktop here. > > When I cancel the ESSID broacasting (for safety reasons), I can't get the > card connected! > > Is this expected? > > What can I do to solve this issue? > > TIA > > Ricardo Turn SSID broadcast back on. The safety of no broadcasting SSID is a myth. Try Kismet, for example. Also, not advertising your presence on a channel assures that eventually somebody setting up a new router will settle in on "your" channel 'cuz a scan showed as not in use. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 13 19:16:08 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:16:08 -0400 Subject: firewall References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > John Dangler a écrit : >> I've been using firestarter for my iptables maintenance, but have heard >> a lot of chatter about firehol. Anyone on the list have a preference >> for one over the other? >> >> (I hand-wrote my iptables rulesets for my server, but for the >> workstation and laptop, I just want to be a _user_) >> >> > > I love GuardDog (+ GuideDog if you want to use it on a router) > http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/ I just gave up on Guarddog - I've used it for years, but I'm getting too many rules for odd ports (and some that aren't so odd, but aren't in it's tables), and it generates _really_ complicated iptables rules. What would really help guarddog, would be a an option to enter a port number, and have it expand the list in the right place. For anything obscure, you have to work with a display of /etc/services open in another window at the same time :-) -- derek From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 19:42:25 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:42:25 +0100 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Derek Broughton a écrit : > What would really help guarddog, would be a an option to enter a port > number, and have it expand the list in the right place. For anything > obscure, you have to work with a display of /etc/services open in another > window at the same time :-) Do you mean those one ? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/389372680_b69f137674.jpg?v=0 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/389372623_c1ae94268c.jpg?v=0 From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 19:46:44 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:46:44 -0500 Subject: No Broacast, no connection! (network manager issue) In-Reply-To: <200702131516.29602.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> References: <200702131516.29602.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Message-ID: <20070213144644.29623077@chisel> Ricardo C O Freitas wrote: > Hi there! > > I have an atheros pci card on a 6.06 Ubuntu desktop here. > > When I cancel the ESSID broacasting (for safety reasons), I can't get > the card connected! There's no real reason to disable ESSID broadcasts. Your WAP is still visible to the world, it will still hand out that information if asked properly, and since ESSID is sent in the clear even with WEP/WPA enabled anyone with a "sniffer" can see it when someone who already knows it connects. So you're really not hiding anything at all from anyone who would benefit from knowing it. The same more or less applies to MAC address filtering too, BTW. Trivial to discover, and even more trivial to spoof. The alternative is to track down every place where you might need to "hard wire" your network ID and do so. That would include your /etc/network/interfaces, wpa_supplicant.conf file if you're using supplicant, any "connection manager" configurations that might store that information, etc... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Tue Feb 13 19:55:35 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:55:35 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <1171387831.10534.139.camel@croatus> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> <1171342226.10534.117.camel@croatus> <1171387831.10534.139.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070213145535.09f87ea5@chisel> John Dangler wrote: > yeah - it's one of those packages that (i guess) you just need to have > the entire kde environment installed in order for it to run. I really > that was the case with clamtk... I installed it to see what it does > over the commandline tool... It installed a TON of kde stuff with it, > and on a clean install of Edgy (according to the gui) found 17 > viruses. Looking through the 125,000 files it scanned, it didn't mark > ANY of the files as infected. Then I run sudo clamscan -r -i / from > commandline... everything checks out ok (like I would think it > should)... so clamtk is definitely junk (IMO), so it's coming off Just out of curiosity, what version of ClamAV did/do you have installed, and do you happen to know if ClamTK did anything funny like throwing the --enable-experimental switch? Thing is, clam isn't exactly prone to false positives like that but it *will* scan email and does a pretty competent job of spotting phishing attempts if told to do so. I was wondering of maybe something like that wasn't what you were seeing...??? -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 19:59:44 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:59:44 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171396784.10534.159.camel@croatus> wow - just looking through synaptic for firewall products... arno ferm fiaif fireflier firehol firestarter gnome-lokkit guarddog guidedog fwbuilder lokkit mason netscript pyroman shorewall uif uruk wallfire zorp I've run firestarter, and it's pretty easy to set up and configure. Guarddog - last update Nov. 2006 (the owner says that he's been busy with other projects, which probably means that updates here might be lagging... FireHOL latest news - Jan 2005, R5 v1.226 released... I'm looking into the rest... On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 20:42 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Derek Broughton a écrit : > > What would really help guarddog, would be a an option to enter a port > > number, and have it expand the list in the right place. For anything > > obscure, you have to work with a display of /etc/services open in another > > window at the same time :-) > > Do you mean those one ? > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/389372680_b69f137674.jpg?v=0 > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/389372623_c1ae94268c.jpg?v=0 > > From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 20:27:52 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:27:52 +0800 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: <200702131308.33943.pubmb01@skynet.be> References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702121836.12015.pubmb02@skynet.be> <200702131308.33943.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: On 2/13/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 04:23:25 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > On 2/13/07, Bruno wrote: > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy only > > > > > works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy will work > > > > > if there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > > > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > > > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > > > > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel and > > > > > reboot) > > > > > > > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the system. I > > > > > tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it failed, since > > > > > chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > > > > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ cd > > > > > dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > > > > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > > > > selinux-policy-default > > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or > > > > > > directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Carpe Diem > > > > > > > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add selinux=1 as > > > > a kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > > > > However getenforce allways return disabled. > > > > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > > > > > > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > > > > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place after > > > > reboot. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bruno > > > > > > It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in /var/log/messages : > > > ... > > > Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a ro > > > quiet splash selinux=1 > > > SELinux: Initializing. > > > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > > > SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks > > > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability > > > ... > > > but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux start > > > does'nt complete. > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > Bruno > > > > Make sure you have policycoreutils and checkpolicy installed, > > > > I have the similar problem before on Selinux, I solved it by > > > > 1. --purging the entire selinux installation > > 2. Install policycoreutils, selinux-refpolicy-targeted, and lastly > > install selinux-policy-basic. Then relabel. > > > > I'm also trying to make a policy that would work on enforcing mode. > > Currently, the selinux-policy-targeted can work with enforcing mode if > > some daemons is to be turned off (syslogd), and must boot the kernel > > in read-write, I also set the fsck to autofix=yes. > > > > I hope this helps, > > Joel > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > > Carpe Diem > > > Hi Joel, > > could you confirm or detail package 'selinux-refpolicy-targeted' please ? > I cannot find it... > Many thanks. > > Bye, > Bruno > I'm sorry, it's selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted. :-) > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Carpe Diem From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 20:31:34 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:31:34 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <20070213145535.09f87ea5@chisel> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <20070212223758.GA3924@taylor.homelinux.net> <1171342226.10534.117.camel@croatus> <1171387831.10534.139.camel@croatus> <20070213145535.09f87ea5@chisel> Message-ID: <1171398694.10534.166.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 14:55 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > > > yeah - it's one of those packages that (i guess) you just need to have > > the entire kde environment installed in order for it to run. I really > > that was the case with clamtk... I installed it to see what it does > > over the commandline tool... It installed a TON of kde stuff with it, > > and on a clean install of Edgy (according to the gui) found 17 > > viruses. Looking through the 125,000 files it scanned, it didn't mark > > ANY of the files as infected. Then I run sudo clamscan -r -i / from > > commandline... everything checks out ok (like I would think it > > should)... so clamtk is definitely junk (IMO), so it's coming off > > Just out of curiosity, what version of ClamAV did/do you have > installed, and do you happen to know if ClamTK did anything funny like > throwing the --enable-experimental switch? clamav version 0.88.4/2562 I looked through all of the perl scripts and conf files and didn't see anything that said "experimental" ... > > Thing is, clam isn't exactly prone to false positives like that but it > *will* scan email and does a pretty competent job of spotting phishing > attempts if told to do so. I was wondering of maybe something like that > wasn't what you were seeing...??? Don't know... I do know on a command line scan, it said it found 1 virus in an email, but went by so fast that I couldn't get to it... I'm currently running this - clamscan -r -i --exclude-dir=/sys / /var/log/clamav/clamscan.log & so, when it finishes (and if it finds that 1 again), it will be in the log, so I can update you on what it found... > From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 13 21:04:03 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:04:03 -0400 Subject: firewall References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <1171396784.10534.159.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <3nl9a4-ot6.ln1@pointerstop.ca> John Dangler wrote: > wow - just looking through synaptic for firewall products... Yeah :-( Choice is good, too much choice is paralyzing. > arno > ferm > fiaif haven't checked any of those. > fireflier This is what I'm playing with right now. This is the only linux firewall app (afaik) that works like Zone Alarm or Windows Firewall - allowing you to block applications rather than just ports. It's more flexible than those, and at least imo pretty intuitive. Good thing, since the documentation is weak (but very few of these products have decent documentation). The daemon that monitors traffic is good, but the clients are fairly simplistic. Assuming they all work like fireflier-client-kde (not known), you can only have one person monitoring the traffic, and there's no option to make it pop up a dialog, so I sometimes don't realize it's waiting for input. Also, I haven't figured out how to make it save its rules - the iptables part can be done easily enough, but the userspace part I'm not sure. > firehol Just installed... > firestarter > fwbuilder I couldn't figure a way to make either of these easily handle a situation where my Internet interface could be either eth0 or eth1 (wired and wireless, but not necessarily in that order). > lokkit Interesting. I couldn't find a package for this last time I looked. Now I have to try it. > mason It's a while since I tried this one - it had some good features, but in the end I went with guarddog. I think it had the same problem as firestarter & fwbuilder. > shorewall The biggest problem with this one is that it explicitly conflicts with guarddog. There's no need for that, and it meant that I couldn't keep my existing rules running while I checked it out, so I tossed it (though I did read the documentation). The big plus is its documentation. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 13 20:49:27 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:49:27 -0400 Subject: firewall References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Derek Broughton a écrit : >> What would really help guarddog, would be a an option to enter a port >> number, and have it expand the list in the right place. For anything >> obscure, you have to work with a display of /etc/services open in another >> window at the same time :-) > > Do you mean those one ? > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/389372680_b69f137674.jpg?v=0 > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/389372623_c1ae94268c.jpg?v=0 > > Exactly - I notice you've defined SMTP_GMAIL, too:-) -- derek From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 21:53:05 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:53:05 -0500 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <3nl9a4-ot6.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <1171296072.10534.78.camel@croatus> <1171396784.10534.159.camel@croatus> <3nl9a4-ot6.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <1171403585.10534.187.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 17:04 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > wow - just looking through synaptic for firewall products... > > Yeah :-( > > Choice is good, too much choice is paralyzing. > > > arno http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/ last update Feb 2007 - looks promising Latest version 1.8.8.h Latest version in synaptic - 1.8.6.c-2 > > ferm http://ferm.foo-projects.org/ferm.html ferm - a firewall rule parser for linux (looks like a decent way to learn iptables rule writing, but it may not be an _end-user_ type of product > > fiaif http://www.fiaif.net/ "The Goal of FIAIF is to provide a highly customizable script for setting up an iptables based firewall." last update Jan 23 2007 - looks promising Latest version 1.21.1 Latest version in synaptic - 1.20.1-2 "Read through the zone files, and try to understand/modify the variables. Make sure that you setup the device information (GLOBAL, DYNAMIC, IP, DEV, NET, BCAST) correctly." "...You are now ready to start the firewall. ... you probably want to set DEBUG=1, and watch the logs for dropped packets." (uh-oh)... this also looks like a good way to learn iptables rule writing, although it does have a decent testing feature so that you can check your syntax, etc. > > haven't checked any of those. > > > fireflier > > This is what I'm playing with right now. This is the only linux firewall > app (afaik) that works like Zone Alarm or Windows Firewall - allowing you > to block applications rather than just ports. It's more flexible than > those, and at least imo pretty intuitive. Good thing, since the > documentation is weak (but very few of these products have decent > documentation). The daemon that monitors traffic is good, but the clients > are fairly simplistic. Assuming they all work like fireflier-client-kde > (not known), you can only have one person monitoring the traffic, and > there's no option to make it pop up a dialog, so I sometimes don't realize > it's waiting for input. Also, I haven't figured out how to make it save > its rules - the iptables part can be done easily enough, but the userspace > part I'm not sure. > > > firehol > > Just installed... > > > firestarter > > fwbuilder > > I couldn't figure a way to make either of these easily handle a situation > where my Internet interface could be either eth0 or eth1 (wired and > wireless, but not necessarily in that order). > > > lokkit > > Interesting. I couldn't find a package for this last time I looked. Now I > have to try it. > > > mason > > It's a while since I tried this one - it had some good features, but in the > end I went with guarddog. I think it had the same problem as firestarter & > fwbuilder. > > > shorewall > > The biggest problem with this one is that it explicitly conflicts with > guarddog. There's no need for that, and it meant that I couldn't keep my > existing rules running while I checked it out, so I tossed it (though I did > read the documentation). The big plus is its documentation. > -- > derek > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 13 22:20:42 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:20:42 -0500 Subject: clamscan - found one! Message-ID: <1171405242.10534.195.camel@croatus> testing my bash script for clamscan... //home/gymsmoke/.evolution/mail/local/MGJ Corp.sbd/GenXY: W97M.Lafool-7 FOUND How can I find out which actual mail message this is ? ( I know who sent it to me, so I want to contact them right away) From james.gray at dot.com.au Tue Feb 13 22:45:04 2007 From: james.gray at dot.com.au (James Gray) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:45:04 +1100 Subject: clamscan - found one! In-Reply-To: <1171405242.10534.195.camel@croatus> References: <1171405242.10534.195.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702140945.07810.james.gray@dot.com.au> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:20:42 am John Dangler wrote: > testing my bash script for clamscan... > > //home/gymsmoke/.evolution/mail/local/MGJ Corp.sbd/GenXY: W97M.Lafool-7 > FOUND > > How can I find out which actual mail message this is ? > ( I know who sent it to me, so I want to contact them right away) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't bother. That particular virus (like basically all viruses) spoof's the sender's address. The "sender" as it appears in the e-mail is more than likely NOT the actual sender. Grokking the headers wont help much either as most spam/virus bots insert spoofed headers too. You got a virus, clam found it - just delete it :) Cheers, James -- BOFH excuse #103: operators on strike due to broken coffee machine -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1357 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Tue Feb 13 23:03:02 2007 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:03:02 -0200 Subject: Thanks! -> Re: No Broacast, no connection! (network manager issue) In-Reply-To: References: <200702131516.29602.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Message-ID: <200702132103.03122.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 17:11, Roby wrote: > Ricardo C O Freitas wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > I have an atheros pci card on a 6.06 Ubuntu desktop here. > > > > When I cancel the ESSID broacasting (for safety reasons), I can't get the > > card connected! > > > > Is this expected? > > > > What can I do to solve this issue? > > > > TIA > > > > Ricardo > > Turn SSID broadcast back on. The safety of no broadcasting SSID is > a myth. Try Kismet, for example. Also, not advertising your presence > on a channel assures that eventually somebody setting up a new router > will settle in on "your" channel 'cuz a scan showed as not in use. Thanks for the information!! SSID is on again! And the mentioned desktop is on line again! Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Tue Feb 13 23:04:44 2007 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:04:44 -0200 Subject: No Broacast, no connection! (network manager issue) In-Reply-To: <20070213144644.29623077@chisel> References: <200702131516.29602.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> <20070213144644.29623077@chisel> Message-ID: <200702132104.44979.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 17:46, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Ricardo C O Freitas wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > I have an atheros pci card on a 6.06 Ubuntu desktop here. > > > > When I cancel the ESSID broacasting (for safety reasons), I can't get > > the card connected! > > There's no real reason to disable ESSID broadcasts. Your WAP is still > visible to the world, it will still hand out that information if asked > properly, and since ESSID is sent in the clear even with WEP/WPA > enabled anyone with a "sniffer" can see it when someone who already > knows it connects. So you're really not hiding anything at all from > anyone who would benefit from knowing it. > > The same more or less applies to MAC address filtering too, BTW. > Trivial to discover, and even more trivial to spoof. > > The alternative is to track down every place where you might need to > "hard wire" your network ID and do so. That would include > your /etc/network/interfaces, wpa_supplicant.conf file if you're > using supplicant, any "connection manager" configurations that might > store that information, etc... Thanks for the input! Every hacking is possible when you want so! SSID on again! TKS Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 00:23:43 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:23:43 -0500 Subject: [OT] ReactOS Message-ID: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. Anyone have any other info regarding this? From troyw3412 at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 00:38:19 2007 From: troyw3412 at gmail.com (Troy) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:38:19 -0500 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> Message-ID: On 2/13/07, John Dangler wrote: > > I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... > It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. Anyone > have any other info regarding this? > Around June of last year, I did download ReactOS and did fiddle with it for a little bit. I don't have the live CD at the moment; but at the time, it was in the very EARLY development stages. It has a very similar Windows look/feel and is apparently capable of running Windows application. Of the four computers in my home, only the oldest machine was able to boot it. Even then, it seemed to freeze every few minutes. I decided to wait a while before trying it again. Since we're coming near that one-year mark, I will be giving it another round this weekend. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 00:58:29 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:58:29 -0500 Subject: pwc drivers Message-ID: <1171414709.10534.229.camel@croatus> Since the original developer of the pwc/pwc-x driver has pulled the plug some time ago (http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ ) , and I notice that Edgy installs the pwc driver for some webcams (mine is a logitech qc3000 pro), I'm wondering if anyone on the list knows what release they have? The site reference says that 9.0.2 is the last tarball (9.0 for pwc/x) I seem to remember the developer of this pulling the plug over a year ago. Has Ubuntu picked this up to develop/maintain? From garyjarrel at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 01:59:20 2007 From: garyjarrel at gmail.com (Gary Jarrel) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:59:20 +1100 Subject: Tomcat + Firewall question In-Reply-To: <45CB6320.1080807@uni-graz.at> References: <45CB6320.1080807@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <995b0fb00702131759x4817978cod77b8cc2161216b8@mail.gmail.com> What ports have you opened in the firewall! I don't use fmbuilder but I use shorewall with tomcat accross a number of servers and never have any problems! Cheers, - garyj On 2/9/07, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi, > > does somebody have experience with Tomcat and Fwbuilder? My problem is > that when I configure my firewall and open all the relevants ports (so > far as I know) for tomcat, it takes him 5 minutes for startup and > shutdown. All the firewall logs are on but I still can't see for what > reason it takes so long ... > > Any hints? > > TIA > Dieter > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Feb 14 02:38:33 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:38:33 -0500 Subject: remote access In-Reply-To: <1171357041.5603.12.camel@localhost> References: <200702122110.16993.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1171357041.5603.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200702132138.33894.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 3:57:20 am Michael R. Head wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 21:10 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I'm trying to use vnc4viewer on an edgy box at work to connect to my > > electronically comatose dad's home XP box. I have realvnc setup on the > > XP box and it works from my home boxes, but the problem is that our > > corporate network seems to be locked down tight (and I have no admin > > access nor am I likely to). I can't ping any IP address that is outside > > the corporate network, so I assume that the firewall is blocking access. > > > > How can I get through? If anyone has any suggestions, could you also > > point me to some explicit instructions? > I discovered part of a solution...I think. Since I'm using realvnc on the XP box, I can access via its build-in java server. However I'm noticing that if I attempt to connect to an account on the XP box that doesn't have admin privileges, the user account dies and I'm thrown back to the XP login screen. This doesn't occur if I use an xvnc client or if I use java to connect to an account w/ admin privileges. Does anyone know whether this is a realvnc server problem, an XP problem or a java problem on my edgy box? How to fix? Paul From dhull at digitaloverload.net Wed Feb 14 03:27:45 2007 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:27:45 -0900 Subject: LTSP with Edubuntu 6.10 sound problem Message-ID: <45D281B1.30109@digitaloverload.net> I installed Edubuntu 6.10. 1. Booted the thin client 1. I can log in 2. I here sound on login 3. I plugged an IPod in and got an icon on the desktop Here's my problem 1. Played an mp3 with xmms and got no sound 2. Found the sound playing on the server 3. Tried to run xmms with "essddsp xmms" with no luck I then tried PulseAudio with out any luck. The thin client doesn't like "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm" settings. Here's the instructions I used. http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Edgy/HOWTO:_PulseAudio I run across websites and email archives where people say "audio works". However, I am unable to get it working. If anyone can point me in the right direction this would be a big help. From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 14 03:31:53 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:31:53 -0800 Subject: remote access In-Reply-To: <200702132138.33894.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702122110.16993.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1171357041.5603.12.camel@localhost> <200702132138.33894.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: Paul Kaplan wrote: > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 3:57:20 am Michael R. Head wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 21:10 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: >> > I'm trying to use vnc4viewer on an edgy box at work to connect to my >> > electronically comatose dad's home XP box. I have realvnc setup on the >> > XP box and it works from my home boxes, but the problem is that our >> > corporate network seems to be locked down tight (and I have no admin >> > access nor am I likely to). I can't ping any IP address that is outside >> > the corporate network, so I assume that the firewall is blocking access. >> > >> > How can I get through? If anyone has any suggestions, could you also >> > point me to some explicit instructions? >> > I discovered part of a solution...I think. Since I'm using realvnc on the XP > box, I can access via its build-in java server. However I'm noticing that if > I attempt to connect to an account on the XP box that doesn't have admin > privileges, the user account dies and I'm thrown back to the XP login screen. > This doesn't occur if I use an xvnc client or if I use java to connect to an > account w/ admin privileges. > > Does anyone know whether this is a realvnc server problem, an XP problem or a > java problem on my edgy box? How to fix? > > Paul > On the XP side use ultravnc instead of realvnc: http://www.uvnc.com/index.html I use UltraVNC for all of my windows clients/customers - excellent product. I actually prefer to use ultravnc under WINE vs Gnome-RDP as this also allows me to do file transfer (to/from) with the remote windows PC for updates etc. You can also set them up and allow secure access via a browser client. Additionally, when I have a customer that simply *cannot* figure out how to allow a connect, even with the Java SSH, I use SingleClick, and that allows them to call me rather than me trying to work my way through their NAT etc. Much more secure than realvnc and much easier to use -- for regulars, I just call, have them open a browser & go to whatsmyip.org, tell me their IP address, have them open the VNC server (icon on desktop) and log in. They can see me accessing the machine (unlike realvnc/gnome-rdp) as the icon changes colors, can chat with me via the text chat client, and can even terminate my session if they want. Slick stuff. Forums are well supported: http://forum.ultravnc.info/ I only wish that they'd do a real ultravnc package for linux (it's been discussed in the forums). From ynd at lntenc.com Wed Feb 14 05:05:45 2007 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:35:45 +0530 Subject: X-server and Windows display setting equivalent Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennismouille at hotmail.com Wed Feb 14 05:28:36 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:28:36 -0800 Subject: DSL /etc/network/interfaces In-Reply-To: <45D11747.2020902@gatech.edu> Message-ID: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces I deleted everything in the 'interfaces' file that DID NOT have to do with eth0. I wish I would of # the lines but I was intimated editing the file. I did email the 'interfaces' file to the list because someone ask for it. It was this person who path the way for me. I tried to figure out who it was, but it was to confusing so I just thank everyone for responding. I think I could track it down ( I copy & paste) and email to you. Would you like me to do that or did I give you enough info? Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I got behind in my work. Sincerely Dennis >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical suall text with the exception of eth0 and rything below it.I deleted 'eth1' in the interface file and evewas the main problem. I deleted this and wang. I googed up by not making with a #. I tried to fine the person who responded but it was to confusing.pport,not for general discussions" >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" >, dennismouille at hotmail.com >Subject: Re: DSL fixed, thank you all for you imput >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:41:27 -0500 > >Dennis Castanos wrote: > > /etc/network/interfaces > > is where the problem was. Ii's cleamed up and working > >Great. Glad I provided some interim help. Could you tell us what the >problem was with /etc/network/interfaces was (on the off case someone >has the same problem and searches the archives)? > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 06:36:16 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:36:16 +0800 Subject: This killer idea for Ubuntu will help solve Bug #1 Message-ID: Hi, I would like to share an idea on how to make new users be using Ubuntu. Alot open source games have the capability to play in internet game servers. Tremolous and OpenArena to name a few. Also, there are games like Boson, Freecraft and Nexuiz can play online, And a plethora of board games can play online too. What if Ubuntu will feature a website, dedicated only to multimedia and games, and offers free internet servers as a default servers on those games. The Ubuntu media website is like Xbox-Live services, where people can register their gamertags and provides rankings the those users. And also, those games are themable, so OpenArena can have a Half-Life theme. I think the possibilities are endless. And once this service is up and running, people who use to license their Microsoft Windows OS in order to play Counter-Strike (i.e. Internet Cafe's) will have Ubuntu instead. -- Carpe Diem From ubantu001 at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 08:10:25 2007 From: ubantu001 at gmail.com (Paul Thompson) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:10:25 +1300 Subject: Acroread? Message-ID: <10681b470702140010p7d12b892jd8850feed802bf46@mail.gmail.com> Hi, anyone know what has happened to acroread? I am getting this when I try to install. Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread" Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mozilla-acroread" Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread-plugins" No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. And yes universe and restricted are enabled and update has been run. Could it have been pulled? Regards, Paul Thompson From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 08:27:56 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:27:56 +0100 Subject: Acroread? In-Reply-To: <10681b470702140010p7d12b892jd8850feed802bf46@mail.gmail.com> References: <10681b470702140010p7d12b892jd8850feed802bf46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul Thompson a écrit : > Hi, anyone know what has happened to acroread? I am getting this when > I try to install. > > Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread" > Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mozilla-acroread" > Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread-plugins" > No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. > > And yes universe and restricted are enabled and update has been run. > Could it have been pulled? Unlucky you :-p ! it's on multiverse :) > Regards, > > Paul Thompson > From shalixxx at hotmail.com Wed Feb 14 08:32:03 2007 From: shalixxx at hotmail.com (Shali Himantha) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:32:03 +0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hey guys; I try to install my modem. but couldn't want to find the way that i can do it. It is conxents fax speakerphone modem . If any of u now using it pls let me inform. Regards, Shalinda _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From carsten at welcomes-you.com Wed Feb 14 08:36:15 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:36:15 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D2C9FF.9050306@welcomes-you.com> Shali Himantha wrote: > Hey guys; > I try to install my modem. but couldn't want to find the way that i can do > it. It is conxents fax speakerphone modem . If any of u now using it pls let > me inform. I don't think I will be of much help, but can you please tell us, what kind of modem it is (brand, name), how you connect it with your PC (if it's an external modem) and what you have tried so far? Thanks a lot Carsten From pubmb01 at skynet.be Wed Feb 14 09:27:04 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:27:04 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702131308.33943.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: <200702141027.04150.pubmb01@skynet.be> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 21:27:52 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/13/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 04:23:25 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > On 2/13/07, Bruno wrote: > > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > > > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted policy > > > > > > only works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing policy > > > > > > will work if there's a custom policy, specifically for Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > > > > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > > > > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch /.autorelabel > > > > > > and reboot) > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the > > > > > > system. I tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it > > > > > > failed, since chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with $ > > > > > > cd dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > > > > > selinux-policy-default > > > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or > > > > > > > directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Carpe Diem > > > > > > > > > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add > > > > > selinux=1 as a kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > > > > > However getenforce allways return disabled. > > > > > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > > > > > > > > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > > > > > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place > > > > > after reboot. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in > > > > /var/log/messages : ... > > > > Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a > > > > ro quiet splash selinux=1 > > > > SELinux: Initializing. > > > > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > > > > SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks > > > > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability > > > > ... > > > > but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux start > > > > does'nt complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > Bruno > > > > > > Make sure you have policycoreutils and checkpolicy installed, > > > > > > I have the similar problem before on Selinux, I solved it by > > > > > > 1. --purging the entire selinux installation > > > 2. Install policycoreutils, selinux-refpolicy-targeted, and lastly > > > install selinux-policy-basic. Then relabel. > > > > > > I'm also trying to make a policy that would work on enforcing mode. > > > Currently, the selinux-policy-targeted can work with enforcing mode if > > > some daemons is to be turned off (syslogd), and must boot the kernel > > > in read-write, I also set the fsck to autofix=yes. > > > > > > I hope this helps, > > > Joel > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > > > Carpe Diem > > > > Hi Joel, > > > > could you confirm or detail package 'selinux-refpolicy-targeted' please ? > > I cannot find it... > > Many thanks. > > > > Bye, > > Bruno > > I'm sorry, it's selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted. :-) > Sorry but cannot find this one either. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 and have repos restricted / universe / multiverse . Bye, Bruno From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Wed Feb 14 09:36:22 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:36:22 +0100 Subject: [OT] ReactOS References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <001601c7501b$98e23890$0600000a@mcetest> Just tried to install the latest OS into a virtual box, the iso started and froze on a blue screen. I may not be doing it justice, trying to install this way. But there are warnings all over the site about the installation. I do not have a spare machine at present. HTH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.zarri at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 09:38:00 2007 From: m.zarri at gmail.com (Michele Zarri) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:38:00 +0000 Subject: WLAN and Wireless router incompatible? Message-ID: Hello, I think I'd better start by saying that I am a real newbie (installed ubuntu a couple of weeks ago and have no previous experience with Linux) and apologizing for the long post. I have a dual boot (ubuntu/winxp) on a compaq N610 laptop which comes with a USB Wireless Lan card (W200). At home I have set up a wireless network using a D-Link 524 router. This is the sequence of events describing the problem I am experiencing - The access point has WEP enabled and works ok under WinXP. - Started the WLAN card in ubunto and everything worked (got an IP address and could connect to the internet and download some packages too). - After a few minutes I stopped receiving packets from the access point. - tried to restart the WLAN sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth 1 but nothing happened - Boot up in Winxp and could not get an IP address - reset the access point and it worked again fine under winxp - back to ubuntu and same story. Fine for 5 minutes then received packets down to 0 - tried several things (manual IP address, removing the WEP "security", switch off and on the WLAN, reset it, inspected the iwconfig...) Final note: I tried the WLAN running ubuntu on a public [famous cellular operator name here] hotspot and it works fine, keeps the connection up without a glitch. So my questions: - Is this a known problem? - any guess on which of the two devices (compaq W200 WLAN or D-Link 524 wireless router) causes the problem? Any suggestion will be most welcome. Cheers, Michele From gerard.bigot at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 10:13:13 2007 From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:13:13 +0100 Subject: pwc drivers In-Reply-To: <1171414709.10534.229.camel@croatus> References: <1171414709.10534.229.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <46db19270702140213i6b3c0da1q51d1ef4c765e538c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/07, John Dangler wrote: > > Since the original developer of the pwc/pwc-x driver has pulled the plug > some time ago (http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ ) , and I notice that > Edgy installs the pwc driver for some webcams (mine is a logitech qc3000 > pro), I'm wondering if anyone on the list knows what release they have? > > The site reference says that 9.0.2 is the last tarball (9.0 for pwc/x) > > I seem to remember the developer of this pulling the plug over a year > ago. Has Ubuntu picked this up to develop/maintain? http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ This one. 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Tried to run xmms with "essddsp xmms" with no luck all gstreamer and esound using apps play sound fine in edubuntu. the problem are apps that either use alsa or oss directly like xmms. you will find that rhythmbox plays your music just fine. for xmms the best option is to enable the esound output plugin in the settings. feisty implements pulseaudio with alsa emulation by default for sound. it emulates a virtual alsa card, problems like above wont occur anymore in the future. if you want to follow the howto you linked, i'd suggest to rather grab the listed third party packages from feistys sources and recompile them for edgy (or ask the backports team to do that for you ;) ) instead of using alienated rpms. ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I recall that they withdrew some/all code for a thorough review of any (copyright infringement?) issues I think. So work may be ongoing, maybe, but there was a significant holdup. -- ac From marco.mandl at gmx.at Wed Feb 14 11:07:12 2007 From: marco.mandl at gmx.at (Marco Mandl) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:07:12 +0100 Subject: prevent operation on unmounted usb disk Message-ID: Hello, I use an usb disk for automated backup every night. The rest of the day this disk is not used and unmounted. Every few minutes ubuntu does something on this unmounted usb disk for about ten seconds. I want to prevent this because it make a lot of noise. Also I would like to stop this disk while it is not used. Is this possible? How? Regards, Marco From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 11:36:59 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:36:59 +0100 Subject: sound problem in Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pushparaj Shetty a écrit : > Hi all, > My os does not support sound. i can play video using the gxine, but > without audio. Kindly tell me how do I rectify the problem. > > Thanks in advance > Pushparaj > HI, Reading your mail, the only thing we know is your OS is Ubuntu 6.10. you might want to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound :) wattazoum :) From dennismouille at hotmail.com Wed Feb 14 13:48:48 2007 From: dennismouille at hotmail.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:48:48 -0800 Subject: DSL fix update Message-ID: for those who was interested in the fix I posted this last night but didn't see it this morning sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces, but they say they don't support linux OLD auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp auto ath0 iface ath0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp NEW auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 69.12.233.119 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 69.12.233.1 _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo � buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From andre.maute at gmx.de Wed Feb 14 14:27:01 2007 From: andre.maute at gmx.de (andre maute) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:27:01 +0100 Subject: updated nvidia xserver for feisty Message-ID: <200702141527.01734.andre.maute@gmx.de> what has to be done, if i want to suggest the inclusion of an updated package especially for feisty i would like to have the xorg out-of-the-box driver for nvidia graphic cards updated, i.e. the package xorg-xserver-video-nv which currently has version 1.2.0 in ubuntu but does currently not support newer nvidia graphic cards, AFAIK so for feisty it would be nice if the current newest version could be included that would be version 1.2.2 best regards Andre From michael_staar at earthlink.net Wed Feb 14 14:49:30 2007 From: michael_staar at earthlink.net (Staar) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:49:30 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Can't Add Applications Message-ID: <15829120.1171464570580.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> So I installed Ubuntu 6.06 (Desktop Version). When I attempt to add any applications using Add/Remove Applications I receive an error: "Could not add application to the application database". I was connected to the internet via a really slow dialup connection (12kbps). Could that be what the problem was? I dont know if it's significant but when I first booted from the cd I was unable to select the first option - Start Ubuntu. When I did, the pc would reboot and the same screen would appear. When I selected 'Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode' it was able to continue. From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 15:01:02 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:01:02 -0500 Subject: sound problem in Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171465262.10534.231.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:10 +0530, Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > Hi all, > My os does not support sound. which OS are you running ? > i can play video using the gxine, but > without audio. Kindly tell me how do I rectify the problem. > > Thanks in advance > Pushparaj > From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 15:07:04 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:07:04 -0500 Subject: prevent operation on unmounted usb disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171465624.10534.237.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 12:07 +0100, Marco Mandl wrote: > Hello, > > I use an usb disk for automated backup every night. The rest of the day > this disk is not used and unmounted. > > Every few minutes ubuntu does something on this unmounted usb disk for > about ten seconds. I want to prevent this because it make a lot of noise. I assume that this is a usb connected external drive and not a _usb stick_ are you sure its every few minutes? not maybe every hour? I know that there is a cron.hourly script which runs and does update something on the hard drive(s) > > Also I would like to stop this disk while it is not used. Is this > possible? How? err - unplug it ? if the disk is mounted at boot time, try turning it off, and then mounting it as part of the script which runs your nightly backup, then unmount it again. > Regards, > Marco > > > From steven at nchc.org.tw Wed Feb 14 15:45:30 2007 From: steven at nchc.org.tw (steven at nchc.org.tw) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:45:30 +0800 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> Hi Scott: Thanks for your reply. I already did as you said, filed a bug report in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/85014 BTW, any workaround to make it ? Will it be possible an updated/patched/backport upstart is available for Ubuntu 6.10 recently ? Thank you very much. Steven. On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:22:22PM +0000, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 00:57 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > > > Hi Scott and others, > > I am using Ubuntu Edgy. The upstart is 0.2.7-7. When I tried to enter > > runlevel 1 by put "1" in kernel boot param in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for > > example: > > ---------------- > > title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11-generic > > root (hd0,0) > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 1 > > splash > > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-generic > > quiet > > savedefault > > boot > > ---------------- > > My edgy box still enters runlevel 2. Is this a normal situation ? Does anyone has same problem ? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Known bug, though not filed -- please file in LP for the upstart source > package. > > Scott > -- > Scott James Remnant > Ubuntu Development Manager > scott at ubuntu.com -- Steven Shiau National Center for High-performance Computing, Taiwan. http://www.nchc.org.tw Public Key Server PGP Key ID: 1024D/9762755A From scott at ubuntu.com Wed Feb 14 15:45:30 2007 From: scott at ubuntu.com (Scott James Remnant) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:45:30 +0000 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> Message-ID: <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 23:45 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > BTW, any workaround to make it ? Will it be possible an > updated/patched/backport upstart is available for Ubuntu 6.10 > recently ? > Almost certainly not, it's not functionality we've ever documented so I doubt such a change would be considered critical enough for applying to edgy. Scott -- Scott James Remnant Ubuntu Development Manager scott at ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 15:54:04 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:54:04 +0100 Subject: sound problem in Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: <1171465262.10534.231.camel@croatus> References: <1171465262.10534.231.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler a écrit : > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:10 +0530, Pushparaj Shetty wrote: >> Hi all, >> My os does not support sound. > which OS are you running ? LOL, the subject has it : sound problem in Ubuntu 6.10 ;) >> i can play video using the gxine, but >> without audio. Kindly tell me how do I rectify the problem. >> >> Thanks in advance >> Pushparaj >> > > From steven at nchc.org.tw Wed Feb 14 16:11:51 2007 From: steven at nchc.org.tw (steven at nchc.org.tw) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:11:51 +0800 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <20070214161151.GA24653@lfod.nchc.org.tw> So is there any workaround so that we can make it run rc1.d ? Or will you fix this in the future version ? I'd like to make it work for our free software project Clonezilla (http://clonezilla.sf.net). I remembered you mentioned that upstart will be 100% compatible with sysVinit first. Since sysvinit does have this function, we do hope it also exists in upstart. Steven. On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:45:30PM +0000, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 23:45 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > > > BTW, any workaround to make it ? Will it be possible an > > updated/patched/backport upstart is available for Ubuntu 6.10 > > recently ? > > > Almost certainly not, it's not functionality we've ever documented so I > doubt such a change would be considered critical enough for applying to > edgy. > > Scott > -- > Scott James Remnant > Ubuntu Development Manager > scott at ubuntu.com -- Steven Shiau National Center for High-performance Computing, Taiwan. http://www.nchc.org.tw Public Key Server PGP Key ID: 1024D/9762755A From scott at ubuntu.com Wed Feb 14 16:12:04 2007 From: scott at ubuntu.com (Scott James Remnant) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:12:04 +0000 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <20070214161151.GA24653@lfod.nchc.org.tw> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214161151.GA24653@lfod.nchc.org.tw> Message-ID: <1171469524.6951.22.camel@quest.netsplit.com> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 00:11 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > So is there any workaround so that we can make it run rc1.d ? Or will > you fix this in the future version ? I'd like to make it work for our > free software project Clonezilla (http://clonezilla.sf.net). > I remembered you mentioned that upstart will be 100% compatible with > sysVinit first. Since sysvinit does have this function, we do hope it > also exists in upstart. > It will be fixed in a future version, which will be in feisty. Scott -- Scott James Remnant Ubuntu Development Manager scott at ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steven at nchc.org.tw Wed Feb 14 16:19:11 2007 From: steven at nchc.org.tw (steven at nchc.org.tw) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:19:11 +0800 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <1171469524.6951.22.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214161151.GA24653@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171469524.6951.22.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <20070214161911.GA24759@lfod.nchc.org.tw> I think from the info you posted in launchpad I know how to fix that in edgy. It's also nice to know it will work in the future version. Thank you very much. Steven. On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 04:12:04PM +0000, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 00:11 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > > > So is there any workaround so that we can make it run rc1.d ? Or will > > you fix this in the future version ? I'd like to make it work for our > > free software project Clonezilla (http://clonezilla.sf.net). > > I remembered you mentioned that upstart will be 100% compatible with > > sysVinit first. Since sysvinit does have this function, we do hope it > > also exists in upstart. > > > It will be fixed in a future version, which will be in feisty. > > Scott > -- > Scott James Remnant > Ubuntu Development Manager > scott at ubuntu.com -- Steven Shiau National Center for High-performance Computing, Taiwan. http://www.nchc.org.tw Public Key Server PGP Key ID: 1024D/9762755A From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 14 16:35:17 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:35:17 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: DSL fixed-have requisted info] Message-ID: <45D33A45.8000901@gatech.edu> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Dennis Castanos" Subject: Re: DSL fixed-have requisted info Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:31:52 -0800 Size: 3687 URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 17:42:14 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:42:14 -0500 Subject: Fail to enter rc1.d by putting 1 in bootparam in edgy In-Reply-To: <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> References: <20070213165705.GA15847@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171390942.8115.87.camel@quest.netsplit.com> <20070214154530.GA24476@lfod.nchc.org.tw> <1171467930.6951.20.camel@quest.netsplit.com> Message-ID: <1171474934.10534.264.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 15:45 +0000, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 23:45 +0800, steven at nchc.org.tw wrote: > > > BTW, any workaround to make it ? Will it be possible an > > updated/patched/backport upstart is available for Ubuntu 6.10 > > recently ? > > > Almost certainly not, it's not functionality we've ever documented so I > doubt such a change would be considered critical enough for applying to > edgy. > > Scott Don't know if this works in Linux or not, but have you tried booting up normally, then do sudo bash , , init 1 From PNewberry at habitat.org Wed Feb 14 18:33:05 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:05 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc><20070210055447.073710ea@chisel><45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net><20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel><45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc><20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel><45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu><20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel><45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu><20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel><45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu><4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB30810930C9A@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> I went through the response email as I am attempting to get apache, php5, and mysql to all work talk and play together. I'd like to thank all the help. I'm still working on it but just wanted everyone to know my appreciation. My work last night: ...but that too should have been installed as a dependency. It might not hurt to double check though. By double checking do you mean going into synaptic and looking at that list, or is there some other way to check for dependencies for a package. There's also some entries in /etc/mime.types and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf. ;) /etc/mime.types as follows: application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php application/x-httpd-php-source phps application/x-httpd-php3 php3 application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3p application/x-httpd-php4 php4 Should there be a php5 entry? There is no /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf file there is a /etc/apache2/apache2.conf which has the line: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php What do 'hostname' *and* 'hostname -f' output? They should both be the same, and ideally a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) as you've set up in /etc/hosts. Results: goshawk at gypsyfarm:~$ hostname gypsyfarm goshawk at gypsyfarm:~$ hostname -f localhost ok one has gypsyfarm, one had localhost. Even if you don't have an "official" domain you should set up something and make it consistent to prevent these errors and give things like MySQL a "reference point" from which to work. A server really does need a unique name or all sorts of strangeness can occur. ideally a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) as you've set up in /etc/hosts. 127.0.0.1 localhost gypsyfarm 127.0.1.1 gypsyfarm Of course neither one is a FQDN (as in somehost.example.com) but not sure where I change it or what it should be. I am assuming I should not use www.gypsyfarm.com as that really is a domain name on the web. Maybe something like 127.0.0.1 localhost www.gypsyfarm.xxx I did comment out the line "127.0.1.1 gypsyfarm" Line with a # in the first column. I restarted apache but it did not seem to fix that fact that php scripts won't execute now but I am ask to download php scripts rather than execute them. I still when I restart I get the message: * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName Well It's Valentines Day and I doubt my wife will let me play with this tonight :-), so I'll continue working with it on Thursday. If anything jumps out at anyone responses would be appreciated. Thanks Pat From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Feb 14 20:01:59 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:01:59 -0800 Subject: man pages for c++? References: <20070214173806.GA6086@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87tzxobj9k.fsf@fjellstad.org> Luqman writes: > hello, > > I was wondering if there exist man pages for c++ like they do for c > language routines? > > If yes, what packages do I need to install? > > Thanks and regards, It's in libstdc++6-4.1-doc (if you are on Edgy. For Dapper, you probably have to change the version number to your latest. Do a apt-cache search libstdc++ and just install the latest). There is also html versions of the manual pages in /usr/share/doc/libstdc++-doc/libstdc++/html_user -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 20:17:39 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:17:39 -0500 Subject: adding menu items Message-ID: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> Edgy 6.10 I went into the menu editor, added a menu under System Tools, and added 3 items to that sub menu. When I return to the desktop, they don't appear. Is there a way to refresh the read of the menu config without restarting gdm? From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Wed Feb 14 20:31:08 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:31:08 +0000 Subject: adding menu items In-Reply-To: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> References: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D3718C.8050201@googlemail.com> John Dangler wrote: > Edgy 6.10 > I went into the menu editor, added a menu under System Tools, and added > 3 items to that sub menu. When I return to the desktop, they don't > appear. Is there a way to refresh the read of the menu config without > restarting gdm? > > in a terminal 'update-menus' SteVe From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 20:37:26 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:37:26 -0500 Subject: adding menu items [updated] In-Reply-To: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> References: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171485446.10534.287.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 15:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Edgy 6.10 > I went into the menu editor, added a menu under System Tools, and added > 3 items to that sub menu. When I return to the desktop, they don't > appear. Is there a way to refresh the read of the menu config without > restarting gdm? The app is mysql gui toolkit. I found that There are desktop files for the tools in /usr/share/mysql/mysql-gui-tools-5.0/ It appears that if I make a directory in /usr/share/applications called mysql, I could then copy these desktop files there, but then how would I put them into the menu system? (I would have thought that I could add them via some utility in gnome.) From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 20:57:39 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:57:39 -0500 Subject: adding menu items [updated] In-Reply-To: <1171485446.10534.287.camel@croatus> References: <1171484259.10534.279.camel@croatus> <1171485446.10534.287.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171486659.10534.291.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 15:37 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 15:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > > Edgy 6.10 > > I went into the menu editor, added a menu under System Tools, and added > > 3 items to that sub menu. When I return to the desktop, they don't > > appear. Is there a way to refresh the read of the menu config without > > restarting gdm? > > The app is mysql gui toolkit. I found that There are desktop files for > the tools in /usr/share/mysql/mysql-gui-tools-5.0/ > > It appears that if I make a directory in /usr/share/applications called > mysql, I could then copy these desktop files there, but then how would I > put them into the menu system? (I would have thought that I could add > them via some utility in gnome.) > > > It appears I have one additional rub... on starting this from the commandline, I get an error telling me that this requires an OpenGL to be running... From slewin at rogers.com Wed Feb 14 21:41:23 2007 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:41:23 -0500 Subject: Acroread? In-Reply-To: References: <10681b470702140010p7d12b892jd8850feed802bf46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D38203.4020202@rogers.com> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Paul Thompson a écrit : >> Hi, anyone know what has happened to acroread? I am getting this when >> I try to install. > > Unlucky you :-p ! it's on multiverse :) I am pretty sure acroread haves been pulled from Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn). It is nowhere to be seen and this includes the multiverse. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu 7.04 From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 23:04:28 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:28 -0500 Subject: OopenGL Message-ID: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs this). I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to opengl than just that... From tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz Wed Feb 14 23:12:27 2007 From: tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Tom Eastman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:12:27 +1300 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ Message-ID: Hey guys, I have several different USB Mass Storage devices (cameras, MP3 players, memory sticks and removable hard drives). All of them are correctly mounted in /media/ as 'usbdisk' or something similar. What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere else. What do I need to do to get this working? Thanks, Tom From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 14 23:22:31 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:22:31 -0500 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 12:12 +1300, Tom Eastman wrote: > Hey guys, > > I have several different USB Mass Storage devices (cameras, MP3 players, > memory sticks and removable hard drives). All of them are correctly > mounted in /media/ as 'usbdisk' or something similar. > > What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory > name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my > camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. > > I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have > to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere else. > > What do I need to do to get this working? If I'm not mistaken, it may be as simple as creating the mount point with the name you want, and then use mkdev (or some other dev utility) to setup the name and associate with the mount point. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 14 23:46:55 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:46:55 +1100 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> References: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070215104655.32c6e9a3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:22:31 -0500 John Dangler wrote: > > What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory > > name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my > > camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. > > > > I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have > > to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere else. I think you can write udev rules to achieve this. A starting point might be http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html Peter From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Feb 15 00:07:10 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:07:10 +0100 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: <20070215104655.32c6e9a3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> <20070215104655.32c6e9a3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1171498030.5247.56.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 10:46 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > I think you can write udev rules to achieve this. Weirdly enough, all my usb devices (some vfat, some ext3) do this without me having to do anything. As far as I can tell they all use the file system's volume label From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 15 00:07:46 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:07:46 +1100 Subject: Can't Add Applications In-Reply-To: <15829120.1171464570580.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15829120.1171464570580.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070215110746.6fdebafb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:49:30 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Staar wrote: > So I installed Ubuntu 6.06 (Desktop Version). > When I attempt to add any applications using Add/Remove Applications I receive an error: "Could not add application to the application database". I was connected to the internet via a really slow dialup connection (12kbps). Could that be what the problem was? What happens if you open a terminal ( Applications - Accessories - Terminal ) and type sudo apt-get update ? You should see the list of available applications being downloaded and updated from the repositories as defined in /etc/apt/sources.list . Your dialup connection sounds unusually slow. When I was using Ubuntu with dialup ( until May last year ), my connections were usually at least 32 kbps and more often 40 or above. Is it a bad line ? Does the modem connect faster in other operating systems? > > I dont know if it's significant but when I first booted from the cd I was unable to select the first option - Start Ubuntu. When I did, the pc would reboot and the same screen would appear. When I selected 'Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode' it was able to continue. How much RAM does this machine have ? Peter From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 00:18:00 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:18:00 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse Message-ID: A bit of background: I have several customer located servers (database, print, intranet etc) located at customer sites. For security purposes & so the customer employees don't mess with them these machines do not have any keyboards, video, or mice attached to them. To access the machines I VNC across a secure VPN (both remotely and locally when on site). They are currently running Windows, but I am in the process of converting them over to linux. In order to make the conversion to linux (Ubuntu) I've been testing a couple of machines locally & have found that I cannot boot 6.061 without an attached keyboard or mouse. I can of course boot with a keyboard & mouse attached and then disconnect them. But that defeats the purpose of being able to keep the systems isolated from curious hands. On the Windows machines if I do an update, I can reboot the machines remotely via VNC & have them come back up in the proper configuration. I cannot do this in 6.061. I have figured out how to overcome the problem of the 640x480 60hz video screen default when no video monitor is attached[1], and now wonder if anyone has any suggestions for doing the same with no keyboard & mouse. Suggestions? [1] This problem drove me crazy; the system would reboot without the monitor, but *always* came up in the 640x480 60hz. I finally solved it by manually adding the HorizSync & VertRefresh settings for the monitor in xorg.conf. Example: Section "Monitor" Identifier "MegaImage 17" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 28-64 VertRefresh 43-100 EndSection Without the HorizSync & VertRefresh settings, the systems alway booted to the default when the monitor was not attached. They now pop right into the proper resolution. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 15 00:32:22 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:32:22 +1100 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: <1171498030.5247.56.camel@chronic> References: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> <20070215104655.32c6e9a3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1171498030.5247.56.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <20070215113222.632e6098.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:07:10 +0100 Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 10:46 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > > I think you can write udev rules to achieve this. > > Weirdly enough, all my usb devices (some vfat, some ext3) do this > without me having to do anything. As far as I can tell they all use the > file system's volume label > Yes, the system appears to look at "Vendor" and "Model" designations, at least, when a device is attached. For example if I run tail -f /var/log/messages before plugging in my USB memory sticks I see something like Feb 15 11:18:43 localhost kernel: [17345432.420000] Vendor: USBDisk Model: RunDisk Rev: 1.00 and a different one says Feb 15 11:21:38 localhost kernel: [17345607.748000] Vendor: USB Model: Flash Disk Rev: 3000 ( pretty generic ) These appear as "USBDisk RunDisk: usbdisk " and "USB Flash Disk: USB" respectively in the "Computer" place in Nautilus ( I disabled the desktop icons and automatic opening because they annoyed me ;) I guess I'm Old School... ) Peter From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Thu Feb 15 00:24:58 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:24:58 +0000 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (14/02/07 16:18), NoOp wrote: > I have several customer located servers (database, print, intranet etc) > located at customer sites. For security purposes & so the customer > employees don't mess with them these machines do not have any keyboards, > video, or mice attached to them. To access the machines I VNC across a > secure VPN (both remotely and locally when on site). They are currently > running Windows, but I am in the process of converting them over to linux. > > In order to make the conversion to linux (Ubuntu) I've been testing a > couple of machines locally & have found that I cannot boot 6.061 without > an attached keyboard or mouse. I can of course boot with a keyboard & > mouse attached and then disconnect them. But that defeats the purpose of > being able to keep the systems isolated from curious hands. > On the Windows machines if I do an update, I can reboot the machines > remotely via VNC & have them come back up in the proper configuration. I > cannot do this in 6.061. > > I have figured out how to overcome the problem of the 640x480 60hz video > screen default when no video monitor is attached[1], and now wonder if > anyone has any suggestions for doing the same with no keyboard & mouse. Use ssh to administer the machines from the command line. There's probably no need to run X on the servers. You may need to post a bit more about what packages your running on the servers. The few programs you are running the easier it is to keep them secure. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 00:46:53 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:46:53 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: Clive Menzies wrote: > Use ssh to administer the machines from the command line. There's > probably no need to run X on the servers. You may need to post a bit > more about what packages your running on the servers. > > The few programs you are running the easier it is to keep them secure. > > Regards > > Clive > Security is not the issue; I have dedicated hardware encrypted VPN's to the machines and they are not connected to the internet. The VNC circuits are also encrypted. The problem is the machines are in small retail stores & I want to make sure that the employees don't mess with them. If there is no keyboard, video, or mouse connected to them, they leave them alone. If there is K/V/M connected, someone invariably wants to touch & play. Unfortunately, because of the environment, putting them in a locked room doesn't work. So, the easiest solution, up to this point, has been to simply remove K/V/M & administer them via VNC. From chrisl at xp.etowns.net Thu Feb 15 00:54:01 2007 From: chrisl at xp.etowns.net (chrisl at xp.etowns.net) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:54:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Distribution Upgrade on 7.04 Message-ID: <32106670.14731171500841764.JavaMail.root@micron> I was running a dist-upgrade on my 7.04 install and it crashed when updating python2.5-minimal I tried to install it manually apt-get install python2.5-minimal Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done python2.5-minimal is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 304 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up python2.5-minimal (2.5-5ubuntu5) ... Linking and byte-compiling packages for runtime python2.5... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1373, in main() File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1367, in main rv = action.run(global_options) File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1002, in run pkg.read_version_info() File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 541, in read_version_info self.version_info = pyversions.parse_versions(self.version_field) File "/usr/share/pycentral-data/pyversions.py", line 41, in parse_versions raise ValueError, 'error parsing Python-Version attribute' ValueError: error parsing Python-Version attribute dpkg: error processing python2.5-minimal (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.5: python2.5 depends on python2.5-minimal (= 2.5-5ubuntu5); however: Package python2.5-minimal is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing python2.5 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: python2.5-minimal python2.5 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root at amd:~# dpkg-reconfigure python2.5 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python2.5 is broken or not fully installed Is there any way I can force this to configure? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbinpg at shaw.ca Thu Feb 15 01:08:10 2007 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:08:10 -0800 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> Message-ID: <20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:22:35AM +1000, Nikolai wrote: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:26:39 -0600 > Albert Wagner wrote: > > > > Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by > > the illiterate. Newspeak double-plus bad. > > Is this why flavour, neighbour, etc became flavor, neighbor etc? :-) This was a conscious decision by Noah Webster to drop the "u" in the Brit spelling for his first American dictionary. Pioneers get to do what they want. Jack Bowling From craighagerman at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 01:11:33 2007 From: craighagerman at gmail.com (Craig Hagerman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:11:33 +0900 Subject: Cpu and VGA fan speed control In-Reply-To: <45CDB9C7.5000602@gmail.com> References: <45CDB9C7.5000602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <80d985600702141711j2d16d9fejd53ee022b1a52f13@mail.gmail.com> If you have and AMD CPU/motherboard you can use AMD's Cool 'n' Quiet technology to have the CPU automatically increase or decrease its operation. This can adjust the fan automatically at the same time. Sorry, I don't know any links for this off hand but if you do a google search for "lm-sensors" and/or "powernow" it should get you on your way. Why would you want to control your GPU fan? Modern GPUs are quite powerful and need to be cooled, but are hampered by a smallish surface area. (So the fan has to be small and run fast to cool it.) If you slowed it down you would probably damage the GPU. I don't know of any software way to control a stock nVidia or ATI card's fan (and I don't think you would want to), but you could buy an aftermarket fan that can be controlled. I have an aftermarket Zalman GPU fan that does this. It comes with extra mini heatsinks to put all over the card, along with a huge fan. That fan has a little remote adjustment allowing you to decide how fast to set it. Craig On 2/10/07, cyclothunder wrote: > > > hi! > > Is there any app that can control cpu , vga nvidia / ati, fan speed? > Cant' find any :-( > > thx > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 01:13:58 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:13:58 -0600 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Clive Menzies wrote: > On (14/02/07 16:18), NoOp wrote: >> I have several customer located servers (database, print, intranet etc) >> located at customer sites. For security purposes & so the customer >> employees don't mess with them these machines do not have any keyboards, >> video, or mice attached to them. To access the machines I VNC across a >> secure VPN (both remotely and locally when on site). They are currently >> running Windows, but I am in the process of converting them over to linux. >> >> In order to make the conversion to linux (Ubuntu) I've been testing a >> couple of machines locally & have found that I cannot boot 6.061 without >> an attached keyboard or mouse. I can of course boot with a keyboard & >> mouse attached and then disconnect them. But that defeats the purpose of >> being able to keep the systems isolated from curious hands. >> On the Windows machines if I do an update, I can reboot the machines >> remotely via VNC & have them come back up in the proper configuration. I >> cannot do this in 6.061. >> >> I have figured out how to overcome the problem of the 640x480 60hz video >> screen default when no video monitor is attached[1], and now wonder if >> anyone has any suggestions for doing the same with no keyboard & mouse. > > Use ssh to administer the machines from the command line. There's > probably no need to run X on the servers. You may need to post a bit > more about what packages your running on the servers. > > The few programs you are running the easier it is to keep them secure. > Yeah, that's what I do all the time. Don't forget the "Y" though: ssh -Y username at remotehost When you want to run root-privileged apps, use "sudo appname" instead of "sudo -i;appname" because the details won't be right for X. Enjoy! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF07PV6PLtRzZbdhYRAkEKAJ9kTlo/RN0f5kq5TLWii8qFCgJ7rQCeMh6W v/7c2X89AaebpzYACDxDyno= =R2od -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smccuan at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 01:17:05 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:17:05 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> <20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Although this is entirely off topic, I think it was a good decision to drop the superfluous "U's" in words such as flavoUr, coloUr, etc. Why waste ink on extra letters that are unnecessary? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Bowling" To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:22:35AM +1000, Nikolai wrote: >> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:26:39 -0600 >> Albert Wagner wrote: >> >> >> > Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by >> > the illiterate. Newspeak double-plus bad. >> >> Is this why flavour, neighbour, etc became flavor, neighbor etc? :-) > > This was a conscious decision by Noah Webster to drop the "u" in the Brit > spelling for his first American dictionary. Pioneers get to do what they > want. > > Jack Bowling > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 01:12:45 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:12:45 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > Clive Menzies wrote: > >> Use ssh to administer the machines from the command line. There's >> probably no need to run X on the servers. You may need to post a bit >> more about what packages your running on the servers. >> >> The few programs you are running the easier it is to keep them secure. >> >> Regards >> >> Clive >> > > Security is not the issue; I have dedicated hardware encrypted VPN's to > the machines and they are not connected to the internet. The VNC > circuits are also encrypted. The problem is the machines are in small > retail stores & I want to make sure that the employees don't mess with > them. If there is no keyboard, video, or mouse connected to them, they > leave them alone. If there is K/V/M connected, someone invariably wants > to touch & play. Unfortunately, because of the environment, putting them > in a locked room doesn't work. So, the easiest solution, up to this > point, has been to simply remove K/V/M & administer them via VNC. > > Added point: I have an old IBM laptop that I use as a USB network print server (even though it's running desktop 6.061) for my Cannon printers on my home network. It's quite & small, so it's tucked away in a small space and I seldom have to reboot it (kernel update/power failure). I also access it via VNC. However when I do have to reboot it (power failure etc) I need to connect a keyboard & mouse, otherwise it won't boot - it freezes instead. So, you see there are other reasons for wanting to boot without the keyboard & mouse and having to do so is a PITA :-) From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 01:16:53 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:16:53 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Clive Menzies wrote: >> On (14/02/07 16:18), NoOp wrote: >>> I have several customer located servers (database, print, intranet etc) >>> located at customer sites. For security purposes & so the customer >>> employees don't mess with them these machines do not have any keyboards, >>> video, or mice attached to them. To access the machines I VNC across a >>> secure VPN (both remotely and locally when on site). They are currently >>> running Windows, but I am in the process of converting them over to linux. >>> >>> In order to make the conversion to linux (Ubuntu) I've been testing a >>> couple of machines locally & have found that I cannot boot 6.061 without >>> an attached keyboard or mouse. I can of course boot with a keyboard & >>> mouse attached and then disconnect them. But that defeats the purpose of >>> being able to keep the systems isolated from curious hands. >>> On the Windows machines if I do an update, I can reboot the machines >>> remotely via VNC & have them come back up in the proper configuration. I >>> cannot do this in 6.061. >>> >>> I have figured out how to overcome the problem of the 640x480 60hz video >>> screen default when no video monitor is attached[1], and now wonder if >>> anyone has any suggestions for doing the same with no keyboard & mouse. >> >> Use ssh to administer the machines from the command line. There's >> probably no need to run X on the servers. You may need to post a bit >> more about what packages your running on the servers. >> >> The few programs you are running the easier it is to keep them secure. >> > > Yeah, that's what I do all the time. Don't forget the "Y" though: > > ssh -Y username at remotehost > > When you want to run root-privileged apps, use "sudo appname" > instead of "sudo -i;appname" because the details won't be right for X. > > Enjoy! > - -- Folks, the question is not how I run VNC or access the machine afer it is booted; it is "how can I boot the machine without an attached keyboard & mouse". From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 01:24:22 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:24:22 -0800 Subject: Cpu and VGA fan speed control In-Reply-To: <80d985600702141711j2d16d9fejd53ee022b1a52f13@mail.gmail.com> References: <45CDB9C7.5000602@gmail.com> <80d985600702141711j2d16d9fejd53ee022b1a52f13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Craig Hagerman wrote: > If you have and AMD CPU/motherboard you can use AMD's Cool 'n' Quiet > technology to have the CPU automatically increase or decrease its > operation. This can adjust the fan automatically at the same time. > Sorry, I don't know any links for this off hand but if you do a google > search for "lm-sensors" and/or "powernow" it should get you on your > way. Just installed new fans on a customer's laptop so I had the link handy: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487%5e10272,00.html?redir=NP0065 [http://preview.tinyurl.com/36gkn4] From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 15 01:31:09 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:31:09 -0500 Subject: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171503069.4753.3.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 18:04 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? > (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs > this). > I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to > opengl than just that... Doesn't anyone on the list use applications that require opengl? So far, I can't seem to find anything relevant other than nvidia-glx, and I do have that installed and running in lsmod... > > From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 01:26:29 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:29 -0800 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso> <20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Shawn McCuan wrote: > Although this is entirely off topic, I think it was a good decision to drop > the superfluous "U's" in words such as flavoUr, coloUr, etc. Why waste ink > on extra letters that are unnecessary? Agreed... that would be Shawn McCan right? :-) From smccuan at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 01:57:04 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:57:04 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso><20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <88DF90C8852D43E68C3E9CA607B09D91@Metion> I think that the same sound from "McCuan" can be written as short as "MiQn." :) lol Idiotic Scottish/Irish people and their "Mc" and "Mac" prefixes. :) (And yes, I can complain because the Scottish/Irish are prevalent in my family history) ----- Original Message ----- From: "NoOp" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux > Shawn McCuan wrote: >> Although this is entirely off topic, I think it was a good decision to >> drop >> the superfluous "U's" in words such as flavoUr, coloUr, etc. Why waste >> ink >> on extra letters that are unnecessary? > > Agreed... that would be Shawn McCan right? :-) > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Thu Feb 15 01:54:24 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:54:24 +0000 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <20070215015424.GA18880@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (14/02/07 17:16), NoOp wrote: > Folks, the question is not how I run VNC or access the machine afer it > is booted; it is "how can I boot the machine without an attached > keyboard & mouse". Well if you use aptitude to upgrade from the the command line; if you need to reboot: $ sudo reboot or $ sudo shutdown -r now Although, I'm not really sure why you can't reboot using VNC Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 02:05:42 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:05:42 -0600 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NoOp wrote: > Folks, the question is not how I run VNC or access the machine afer it > is booted; it is "how can I boot the machine without an attached > keyboard & mouse". (Yeah, sorry- I has to catch up on my reading, sorry) In all cases I've had, if it's not in the BIOS to run headless, I'm outta luck. If the option isn't there, the BIOS is gonna balk about having neither; there's nothing any OS can do to change it. Reflash the BIOS? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF07/26PLtRzZbdhYRAu4aAJ9StPfjSRpTRSlUnv0F1qt7CT1/pgCfc9+7 QcEFX2k5Z0oOn/Lv/EyM88s= =HCRC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 02:07:46 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:07:46 -0600 Subject: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171503069.4753.3.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <1171503069.4753.3.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D3C072.90002@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Dangler wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 18:04 -0500, John Dangler wrote: >> Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? >> (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs >> this). >> I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to >> opengl than just that... > Doesn't anyone on the list use applications that require opengl? > So far, I can't seem to find anything relevant other than nvidia-glx, > and I do have that installed and running in lsmod... Right now I'm seated at the "fast" workstation (with an i810-family video card) but no, it seems to take nothing more than that; anything else is a dependency of the nvidia package. I've never had to explicitly do anything more, no. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF08By6PLtRzZbdhYRAkW3AJ94z06VSXuA2idQ48M58hnbOqrTxQCfSibo i1T57773UxWjxOx9JLGYta8= =qqDA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Thu Feb 15 02:10:20 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:10:20 +0100 Subject: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171503069.4753.3.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <1171503069.4753.3.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070215031020.80b86159.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> John Dangler wrote: > Doesn't anyone on the list use applications that require opengl? Yes, I use Google Earth and X-Plane, both require OpenGL. And OpenGL will probably soon be used by everybody regardless of end user applications anyway, as Gtk hence Gnome, are moving to it, and of course OpenGL accelerated Window managers (regardless of eye candy) are in the pipeline, maturing as we speak, and of course the X server already uses acceleration. So the whole desktop stack will soon be taking advantage of OpenGL, so even if you don't use any end user app that require OpenGL, you will still need/want OpenGL acceleration. -- Vince From mj3clark at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 02:31:06 2007 From: mj3clark at gmail.com (Matthew Clarke) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:31:06 -0500 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <45C4A60E.2060106@cox.net> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> <45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <1170470066.4060.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45C4A60E.2060106@cox.net> Message-ID: I'm betting the expert would say that some of the best words in the English language were created by people being lazy/illiterate/drunk/crazed, etc... also known as playful/creative/poetic... ;) modern living languages are just a protracted and diverse instance of the "telephone game", with meanings, spellings, usages shifting constantly with regard to time and place (and soberness). "Right" and "wrong" in that game only means consensus-building for certain groups/genres/media etc. aw, ain't language grand? On 2/3/07, Albert Wagner wrote: > Michael T. Richter wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 18:26 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: > >> Language changes are almost always the result of consistent misuse by > >> the illiterate. > > > > Incorrect statements about language are almost invariably the result of > > people who haven't even bothered reading the most elementary texts of > > linguistics. > > > Just what is the judgment of one who has read the most elementary texts > of linguistics? And what would someone who has read advanced texts of > linguistics think of that judgment? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Matthew Clarke From email.listen at googlemail.com Thu Feb 15 02:45:30 2007 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:45:30 +0100 Subject: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> On Thu, 15. February 2007 00:04:28 John Dangler wrote: > Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? > (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs > this). > I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to > opengl than just that... For nvidia follow the documentation and check your xorg.conf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia Following the steps mentioned in the documentation openGL should work as expected. You also may have a look to the chapter "Troubleshooting". I would think that there is a block missing in your xorg.conf: ---8<---- Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection ---8<--- regards, thomas From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 03:06:07 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:06:07 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > NoOp wrote: > >> Folks, the question is not how I run VNC or access the machine afer it >> is booted; it is "how can I boot the machine without an attached >> keyboard & mouse". > > (Yeah, sorry- I has to catch up on my reading, sorry) > > In all cases I've had, if it's not in the BIOS to run headless, I'm > outta luck. If the option isn't there, the BIOS is gonna balk about > having neither; there's nothing any OS can do to change it. Reflash the > BIOS? > > > - -- ^^^^^^ Try dash dash space for your sig :-) I think that if it were bios then it wouldn't boot into Windows without the keyboard & mouse, which they all do. I'm thinking that like the vido setting there is some parameter in something like the xorg.config file to tell it that these are the default devices, don't bother checking & just boot. I reckon that I'll dig into the boot logs and see if I can figure it out from there. From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 03:35:40 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:35:40 -0600 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NoOp wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> In all cases I've had, if it's not in the BIOS to run headless, I'm >> outta luck. If the option isn't there, the BIOS is gonna balk about >> having neither; there's nothing any OS can do to change it. Reflash the >> BIOS? >> >> >> - -- > ^^^^^^ > Try dash dash space for your sig :-) ? It's usually "--", the default from Thunderbird- I mighta 'bumped' it... > I think that if it were bios then it wouldn't boot into Windows without > the keyboard & mouse, which they all do. I'm thinking that like the vido > setting there is some parameter in something like the xorg.config file > to tell it that these are the default devices, don't bother checking & > just boot. I reckon that I'll dig into the boot logs and see if I can > figure it out from there. Come to think of it, there IS a couple of settings there; it's not that it isn't _booting_, but instead, it's not starting X. Now THAT we can solve. I have to run to get some kerosene, but I'll have an answer for you in under an hour. (If someone doesn't beat me to it...) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF09UM6PLtRzZbdhYRAvXDAJ9WPBxhh4iYrXr087lvTiE3Am2iBgCfcJgB lJ8q/LU4+9aqIb8aU4iXFhM= =MRQc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From camerashy44 at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 03:41:38 2007 From: camerashy44 at gmail.com (camerashy44) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:41:38 -0500 Subject: Auto Shutdown Ubuntu 6.06 Message-ID: <89d639700702141941ma19081as579c40fdcb729912@mail.gmail.com> I had Ubuntu 6.06 on my Optiplex GX1 working fine. On shut down it would dismount everything and then at the end would shut down the computer and turn off the power. I installed the up-grades that showed up on my up-grade icon and now when I shut down, Ubuntu dismounts everything and when it gets to "Will now Halt" it just sits there and I have to turn off manually. Any ideas as to what happened and how to correct it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inhabitantofzion at eml.cc Wed Feb 14 23:53:55 2007 From: inhabitantofzion at eml.cc (inhabitant of zion) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:53:55 +0000 Subject: Feisty: HPLIP toolbox Message-ID: <45D3A113.4090601@eml.cc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Q regarding last upgrade to herd 3. I notice the printer option has gone from control centre and has been replaced by a button for HPLIP toolbox. Only the gui button does nada and I can't seem to find a man page for this program to have a play from the command line. I seem to remember a friend said you can do a man page search via firefox of the internet. But I can't remember how to do this and a google search just brings up a load of hopeful looking links but none of them much use! I am sure somebody on here can point me in the right direction. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF06ETSk8WqQy7AdYRAozcAJ4tPCNEd1XhEnt672TN7vYWYQASDgCfdSIH Eqpq6rHOrIBmV7cSIt44YWs= =TeCp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 05:25:27 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:25:27 -0600 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Come to think of it, there IS a couple of settings there; it's not > that it isn't _booting_, but instead, it's not starting X. Now THAT we > can solve. I have to run to get some kerosene, but I'll have an answer > for you in under an hour. (If someone doesn't beat me to it...) Yeah, here ya go. This is for the ServerFlags section: Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" True Try that, first; it's probably all it is- I'm assuming there's actually some kind of video card in there (which might stop it) but the lack of a mouse no longer will, with that added. If it does, let me know- we'll keep looking. In that case, send me a .log of the attempt. You can mail me direct if you like- I expect to be up for another 8-10 hours or so. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0+7G6PLtRzZbdhYRAjf4AJkB+lDvV6rUJdiJwEGvRCOZHhcJegCfZ5Fj yWK0KcOaA8k3TUks2ztHwOk= =XOlF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 05:28:16 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:28:16 -0600 Subject: Auto Shutdown Ubuntu 6.06 In-Reply-To: <89d639700702141941ma19081as579c40fdcb729912@mail.gmail.com> References: <89d639700702141941ma19081as579c40fdcb729912@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D3EF70.2030104@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 camerashy44 wrote: > I had Ubuntu 6.06 on my Optiplex GX1 working fine. On shut down it would > dismount everything and then at the end would > shut down the computer and turn off the power. I installed the up-grades > that showed up on my up-grade icon and now when > I shut down, Ubuntu dismounts everything and when it gets to "Will now > Halt" > it just sits there and I have to turn off manually. > Any ideas as to what happened and how to correct it? I suspect it has to do with the ACPI stuff on board- something about how to actually disable the power supply. Personally I keep my workstations always-up, so it's not a problem here. But if your BIOS is set differently, it might find a state were it's not able to do this anymore. Let me know, aye? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0+9w6PLtRzZbdhYRAmseAJ4zvf3QFhePtxYJoWR+5RTWH3fTaACfcw6O 1y7Hr32BYOxkRpnrNwVxCAY= =dfB1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 05:38:15 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:38:15 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > >> Come to think of it, there IS a couple of settings there; it's not >> that it isn't _booting_, but instead, it's not starting X. Now THAT we >> can solve. I have to run to get some kerosene, but I'll have an answer >> for you in under an hour. (If someone doesn't beat me to it...) > > Yeah, here ya go. This is for the ServerFlags section: > > Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" True > > Try that, first; it's probably all it is- I'm assuming there's > actually some kind of video card in there (which might stop it) but the > lack of a mouse no longer will, with that added. > > If it does, let me know- we'll keep looking. In that case, send me a > .log of the attempt. You can mail me direct if you like- I expect to be > up for another 8-10 hours or so. > Found a problem on one test machine - you were right and that one halts at no keyboard present, so I'll need to reset it's bios. I'll be bringing the actual server home to test tomorrow & will let you know what I figure out. Thanks for all the assistance - gotta run Valentines day/nigh & all :-) G. Lee From shettypraj at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 06:36:28 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:06:28 +0530 Subject: sound problem in Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I went through the information in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound The following is the result of command $ aplay --list-devices **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 --------------------------------------------- I will be grateful if you provide the correct instructions to rectify the sound problem thank you Pushparaj On 2/14/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Pushparaj Shetty a écrit : > > Hi all, > > My os does not support sound. i can play video using the gxine, but > > without audio. Kindly tell me how do I rectify the problem. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Pushparaj > > > > HI, > > Reading your mail, the only thing we know is your OS is Ubuntu 6.10. > > you might want to read this > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound > > :) wattazoum :) > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From shettypraj at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 06:50:43 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:20:43 +0530 Subject: mounting NTFS on ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45CF5940.5060409@gatech.edu> References: <45CED7B0.4020900@gatech.edu> <45CF5940.5060409@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Hello Sir, Thank you very much for the kind useful instructions. If you don't mind i need help on detecting sound in Ubuntu 6.10. (Audio is not working in my system., however i can play video files using gxine without audio). Please provide instructions for the same. Thanks Pushparaj On 2/11/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > > Thank you sir, > > It worked fine with ntfs. But a small problem with fat32 > > > > I added another line in fstab to mount fat32(/dev/sda5) > > > > /dev/sda5 /mnt/D vfat defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0077,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 1 > > > > After reboot, the FAT32 partition didn't get mounted. > > Any change required in command? pls help. > > Yes, unfortunately. Try: > > /dev/sda5 /mnt/D vfat defaults,utf8,umask=0077,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw 0 1 > > Again, I'm assuming these are the right uid and gids for you. The rw > might not be necessary, but it can't hurt. > > Matthew Flaschen > > > Pushparaj > > > > On 2/11/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > >> > I gave the foolowing command > >> > #mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/CWindow/ > >> > It accepted. But when I tried to open the folder; > >> > It says > >> > You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of > >> "CWindow". > >> > >> Okay, edit (as root) the file /etc/fstab . > >> > >> Add a line like: > >> > >> /dev/sda1 /mnt/CWindow ntfs > >> defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0077,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 1 > >> > >> That should be only one line. Replace the uid and gid numbers (1000 in > >> this case) with the values for your user and group. To find these > >> values, type the command (NOT as root): > >> > >> id > >> > >> In my case, I get something beginning with: > >> > >> uid=1000(matthew) gid=1000(matthew) > >> > >> You should use the numbers you get. > >> > >> Then restart and the partition should mount automatically and give you > >> access. > >> > >> sudo mount /mnt/CWindow > >> > >> Let me know what happens. > >> > >> Matthew Flaschen > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Feb 15 07:16:00 2007 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:16:00 +0100 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: <20070215113222.632e6098.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> <20070215104655.32c6e9a3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1171498030.5247.56.camel@chronic> <20070215113222.632e6098.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1171523760.5247.66.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 11:32 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > ( pretty generic ) > > These appear as "USBDisk RunDisk: usbdisk " and "USB Flash Disk: USB" > respectively in the "Computer" place in Nautilus I just checked my MP3 player and in the log file it says "Vendor: COWON Model: iAUDIO U3". In "Computer" place it says "COWON iAudio U3 Music Player: Telechips", and the desktop icon only says "TELECHIPS". I don't know where "Telechips" comes from, it is not the filesystem volumne label (I checked with cfdisk) My external harddisk leaves mostly just "Vendor: ST330083 Model: 1A" in the log, but the filesystem volume label is "HD300", and this is also the name used in Computer and the desktop icon. From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Thu Feb 15 08:15:34 2007 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:15:34 -0800 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> Yeah, here ya go. This is for the ServerFlags section: >> >> Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" True >> >> Try that, first; it's probably all it is- I'm assuming there's >> actually some kind of video card in there (which might stop it) but the >> lack of a mouse no longer will, with that added. >> >> If it does, let me know- we'll keep looking. In that case, send me a >> .log of the attempt. You can mail me direct if you like- I expect to be >> up for another 8-10 hours or so. >> > > Found a problem on one test machine - you were right and that one halts > at no keyboard present, so I'll need to reset it's bios. I'll be > bringing the actual server home to test tomorrow & will let you know > what I figure out. Thanks for all the assistance - gotta run Valentines > day/nigh & all :-) I've been playing with Debian on the PS3 lately, and one of the pages about it recommended that mousedev be added to /etc/modules in order to ensure that the module is loaded even if the mouse is not connected. I don't know if this will do anything different than the option above, but it seems like a good idea to have the module loaded to ensure VNC can use it properly. -Matt From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Feb 15 08:54:30 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:54:30 +0100 Subject: Newsreaders for Ubuntu and Linux In-Reply-To: <88DF90C8852D43E68C3E9CA607B09D91@Metion> References: <20070202135149.GD12132@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3449F.5070502@gmail.com> <20070202201543.GH23937@whitehail.bostoncoop.net><45C3D6BF.10102@cox.net> <20070203112235.1917b571@picasso><20070215010810.GA17918@shaw.ca> <88DF90C8852D43E68C3E9CA607B09D91@Metion> Message-ID: <45D41FC6.9010101@welcomes-you.com> Why not go all the way down the road? http://www.plainlanguage.gov/examples/humor/marktwain.cfm From jonbee934 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 15 09:27:47 2007 From: jonbee934 at hotmail.com (john beecham) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:27:47 +0000 Subject: adsl modems Message-ID: View form a "just started" UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch Page 3 - 'make a bootscript' 1. Mixed up the '1' and the l (L) 2. In the 'do' sequence is 'tab' used for the indent ? 3. What is 'fi' Sleep 1 4. Have now lost file S95dial (deleted) Can you help John _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving � check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com From ubuntu-users at quack.clara.co.uk Thu Feb 15 09:30:11 2007 From: ubuntu-users at quack.clara.co.uk (Jon) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:30:11 -0800 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D42823.5070803@quack.clara.co.uk> Tom Eastman wrote: > I have several different USB Mass Storage devices (cameras, MP3 players, > memory sticks and removable hard drives). All of them are correctly > mounted in /media/ as 'usbdisk' or something similar. > > What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory > name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my > camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. > > I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have > to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere else. There's a tool called "PyGTK Storage Device Manager" available as pysdm in the universe repository which does exactly this. It provides a GUI for udev rules - allows you to match a device by name, model, vendor or bus and perform actions such as creating a link with a specified name when the matching device appears. Screenshots at http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/ (although they don't show the rule definition dialog) or just 'apt-get install pysdm' and take a look yourself. Having said that, some of my devices seem to mount with sensible names by themselves - some do, some don't. Maybe it's something I setup a while back but I've forgotten about... nothing appears in /etc/fstab though and I know I've never learnt to write udev rules. Jon From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Thu Feb 15 10:18:47 2007 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:18:47 +0100 Subject: man pages for c++? In-Reply-To: <87tzxobj9k.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <20070214173806.GA6086@gmx.de> <87tzxobj9k.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <20070215101847.GA7723@gmx.de> > John L Fjellstad wanted us to know: >> I was wondering if there exist man pages for c++ like they do for c >> language routines? >It's in libstdc++6-4.1-doc (if you are on Edgy. For Dapper, you >probably have to change the version number to your latest. Do a >apt-cache search libstdc++ and just install the latest). > >There is also html versions of the manual pages in >/usr/share/doc/libstdc++-doc/libstdc++/html_user Thanks for your reply. But I am a bit confused at seeing three different versions of libstdc++ on my system (edgy). - libstdc++5 - libstdc++6 - libstdc++6.4.1-dev Well the third entry is a development library version, i.e. with source code. But there exist a corresponding doc package for all three versions. Is it possible that some software on my system might depend on older c++ library implementations while some on newer versions? Is this the reason behind different installed versions? I'll just install one doc version for now and see if it satisfies my needs. Regards, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Te he From oliveiros.cristina at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 10:53:50 2007 From: oliveiros.cristina at gmail.com (Oliveiros Cristina) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:53:50 +0000 Subject: why mkinitramfs doesn't work? In-Reply-To: <20070206161504.92B7A4C74C@melvex.xs4all.nl> References: <20070206161504.92B7A4C74C@melvex.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hello, Bastian. Thank you for your e-mail. The reason for using 2.6.11 is that I want to test a special kernel that corresponds to 2.6.11 with some patches and additional modules. I've compiled this kernel with no errors, but I am not succeeding in booting it. When you say that I can find the images on repositories, are you referring to the ram drive image ? On the other hand, do I always need the ram drive, or can I boot (by using a special configuration) a kernel without the auxiliary ram drive image? I've already tried it, it boots ok at the beginning but it seems to fail when it starts to check my ext3 partitions. and it stops booting giving me a root user prompt. But the keyboard doesn't respond. Cheers, Oliveiros 2007/2/6, Bastian : > > Oliveiros Cristina schreef: > > Dear All, > > I am "desperately" trying to generate a ram drive image for use with a > > kernel that I've just compiled. > > But mkinitramfs always insists in returning this message : > > > > oliveiros at Machon2:~$ sudo mkinitramfs -o > > /boot/initrd-2.6.11-krg-root.img 2.6.11-krg-root > > W: kernerl 2.6.11-krg-root too old for initramfs on i386 > > W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.11-krg-root > > > > My ubuntu version is 6.06 LTS > > > > Can anybody give me a clue to what I might be doing wrong? > > > > Any help deeply appreciated > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > Kind Regards, > > Oliveiros > The default kernel version for 6.06 is 2.6.15. Appearantly the > mkinitramfs that comes with 6.06 does not like kernel 2.6.11. Do you > have a specific reason for using an older kernel version? > > You can find the images for 2.6.15 in the repositories (or the sources > if you want to compile the kernel yourself). > > You also might want to try yaird instead of mkinitramfs. > > Bastian > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Thu Feb 15 11:26:28 2007 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:26:28 +0100 Subject: man pages for c++? In-Reply-To: <20070215101847.GA7723@gmx.de> References: <20070214173806.GA6086@gmx.de> <87tzxobj9k.fsf@fjellstad.org> <20070215101847.GA7723@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20070215112628.GB7723@gmx.de> > Luqman wanted us to know: >>There is also html versions of the manual pages in >>/usr/share/doc/libstdc++-doc/libstdc++/html_user > >Thanks for your reply. But I am a bit confused at seeing three different >versions of libstdc++ on my system (edgy). > >- libstdc++5 >- libstdc++6 >- libstdc++6.4.1-dev > >I'll just install one doc version for now and see if it satisfies my I have read up a bit in google results for "man page c++" and it seems there do not exist any man pages for c++ like for c. Having installed the above mentioned doc for c++, I think there is no fast online reference available. I will have to seek resort in a good c++ reference book. Offline reference will ofcourse never be looked up as fast as a 3 stroke-away man page reference for c routines. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pubmb01 at skynet.be Thu Feb 15 12:05:49 2007 From: pubmb01 at skynet.be (Bruno Costacurta) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:05:49 +0100 Subject: Is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? In-Reply-To: <200702141027.04150.pubmb01@skynet.be> References: <200702121558.13148.pubmb01@skynet.be> <200702141027.04150.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: <200702151305.49773.pubmb01@skynet.be> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:27:04 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 21:27:52 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > On 2/13/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 04:23:25 Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > On 2/13/07, Bruno wrote: > > > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:13:17 Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > > On Monday 12 February 2007 16:20, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > > > > On 2/12/07, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is SELinux available for Ubuntu ? > > > > > > > > Are there some packages ? Which ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently package 'selinux-policy-default' is broken... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's available in Ubuntu, but currently the targeted > > > > > > > policy only works well on "permissive" mode. I think enforcing > > > > > > > policy will work if there's a custom policy, specifically for > > > > > > > Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would have to install the specific policy, since > > > > > > > selinux-policy-default is a metapackage of selinux-basics and > > > > > > > selinux-policy-targeted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then relabel the system (i.e $ relabel /, or touch > > > > > > > /.autorelabel and reboot) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, some say permissive mode does not do something on the > > > > > > > system. I tried installing beagle with permissive mode, and it > > > > > > > failed, since chage is disallowed to change user priorities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another is try running X on a chroot environment, (LiveCD with > > > > > > > $ cd dev && MAKEDEV generic), and the themes doesn't apply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think permissive mode does have effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > sudo apt-get install selinux-policy-default > > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > > > > > > selinux-policy-default > > > > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or > > > > > > > > directory make: *** [tmp/load] Error 2 > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any clue. > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Carpe Diem > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed package 'selinux-basics', make relabel and add > > > > > > selinux=1 as a kernel parameter in the grub boot and reboot. > > > > > > However getenforce allways return disabled. > > > > > > How to enabled SElinux in permissive mode ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Note : I have the feeling that SELinux is not started : touch > > > > > > /.autorelabel is not working as file strangely remains in place > > > > > > after reboot. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > It seems that SELinux is in fact started as showed in > > > > > /var/log/messages : ... > > > > > Kernel command line: root=UUID=29479c95-3dbf-490f-b943-be016b9db02a > > > > > ro quiet splash selinux=1 > > > > > SELinux: Initializing. > > > > > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > > > > > SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks > > > > > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability > > > > > ... > > > > > but getenforce return disabled which tends to show that SELinux > > > > > start does'nt complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > Make sure you have policycoreutils and checkpolicy installed, > > > > > > > > I have the similar problem before on Selinux, I solved it by > > > > > > > > 1. --purging the entire selinux installation > > > > 2. Install policycoreutils, selinux-refpolicy-targeted, and lastly > > > > install selinux-policy-basic. Then relabel. > > > > > > > > I'm also trying to make a policy that would work on enforcing mode. > > > > Currently, the selinux-policy-targeted can work with enforcing mode > > > > if some daemons is to be turned off (syslogd), and must boot the > > > > kernel in read-write, I also set the fsck to autofix=yes. > > > > > > > > I hope this helps, > > > > Joel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carpe Diem > > > > > > Hi Joel, > > > > > > could you confirm or detail package 'selinux-refpolicy-targeted' please > > > ? I cannot find it... > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > Bye, > > > Bruno > > > > I'm sorry, it's selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted. :-) > > Sorry but cannot find this one either. > I'm using Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 and have repos restricted / universe / > multiverse . > > Bye, > Bruno Many thanks for your help and attention. However I decided to switch to Fedora where SELinux seems to be better implemented (regarding SELinux core, tools and policies). My main PC runs now Fedora with SELinux policy targeted in enforcing mode. Note: I do not want to start any flame here between Linux distros. Ubuntu is a great distro and I continue to use it on my laptop. I just give my personal experience and feeling about SELinux implementations. Bye, Bruno From jonbee934 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 15 12:14:42 2007 From: jonbee934 at hotmail.com (john beecham) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:14:42 +0000 Subject: adsl modems In-Reply-To: <45D44847.2050800@gatech.edu> Message-ID: thank you for answering so swiftly I was trying to install a speedtouch 330 from the artical - usbadslomodems/speedtouch all went well until I got to page three - here I made a few mistakes some of these I still do not know how to correct to start from scratch i deleted 'dial' from the home directory the file S95dial was highlighted in the listing so unfortunetely I deleted that as well I may now have to reload ubuntu 6.10 but I still wish to know in detail how do you impliment - #!/bin/bash modprobe ppp generic modprobe pppoatm count=0 while [ $count -lt 40 ] etc etc thanking you john >From: Matthew Flaschen >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: adsl modems >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:47:19 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from esperanza.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.173]) by >bay0-mc5-f17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Thu, >15 Feb 2007 03:48:28 -0800 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=esperanza.ubuntu.com)by >esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60)(envelope-from >)id 1HHf5F-0003TU-6T; Thu, 15 Feb >2007 11:47:29 +0000 >Received: from deliverator6.gatech.edu ([130.207.165.168])by >esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60)(envelope-from >) id 1HHf57-0003TG-2Nfor >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:47:21 +0000 >Received: from deliverator6.gatech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1])by localhost >(Postfix) with SMTP id 90AFB193Afor ;Thu, 15 >Feb 2007 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)(envelope-from matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu) >Received: from mailprx1.gatech.edu (mailprx1.prism.gatech.edu >[130.207.171.15])(using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 >bits))(Client CN "smtp.mail.gatech.edu", Issuer "RSA Data Security,Inc." >(verified OK))by deliverator6.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id >7DBF818E1for ;Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:47:20 >-0500 (EST)(envelope-from matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu) >Received: from [128.61.73.81] (r73h81.res.gatech.edu [128.61.73.81])(using >TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits))(No client certificate >requested)(sasl: method=PLAIN, >username=mflaschen3 at mailprx1.gatech.edu,sender=n/a) by mailprx1.gatech.edu >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A164268Cfor ;Thu, >15 Feb 2007 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)(envelope-from matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu) >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt1yN+1IKBJnlHVz3ClDtd9LTWGBtOuZ2s0= >User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070104) >References: >X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 >X-BeenThere: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 >Precedence: list >List-Id: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >Return-Path: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2007 11:48:28.0862 (UTC) >FILETIME=[358855E0:01C750F7] > >john beecham wrote: > > View form a "just started" > > UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch > > Page 3 - 'make a bootscript' > > > > 1. Mixed up the '1' and the l (L) > > > > 2. In the 'do' sequence is 'tab' used for the indent ? > > > > 3. What is 'fi' > > Sleep 1 > > > > 4. Have now lost file S95dial (deleted) > > > > Can you help > >Context? What caused these errors? What commands did you try? What >kind of asdl modem do you have, etc. > >Matthew Flaschen > ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! http://msnuk.match.com/ From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 12:17:29 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:17:29 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering Message-ID: Hi, I have a HTML document created from Google Docs, and I noticed that font's are not displayed properly compared to Epiphany. I have a sample document, compare the rendering between Epiphany and Firefox. Is it just a personal opinion? or just TTF Fonts doesn't render really well in Firefox. I can't post the document here in the mailing list so I just create a sample, see: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ajkn6thw8wrw_6hg7cb7 I have screenshots available also, http://picasaweb.google.com/joelbryan.juliano/FirefoxAndEpiphanyRenderingComparison Regards, Joel Bryan -- Carpe Diem From jonbee934 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 15 12:33:44 2007 From: jonbee934 at hotmail.com (john beecham) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:33:44 +0000 Subject: man pages for c++? In-Reply-To: <20070215112628.GB7723@gmx.de> Message-ID: this was not meant for me >From: Luqman >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: man pages for c++? >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:26:28 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from esperanza.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.173]) by >bay0-mc6-f9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Thu, 15 >Feb 2007 03:27:27 -0800 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=esperanza.ubuntu.com)by >esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60)(envelope-from >)id 1HHel2-0002Rd-4c; Thu, 15 Feb >2007 11:26:36 +0000 >Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20])by esperanza.ubuntu.com with >smtp (Exim 4.60)(envelope-from ) id 1HHekw-0002RS-Nefor >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:26:30 +0000 >Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Feb 2007 11:26:30 -0000 >Received: by haqim-laptop (Postfix, from userid 1000)id 9C6BEDE803; Thu, 15 >Feb 2007 12:26:28 +0100 (CET) >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt1HI5IRsPscLqTB1i0m0Dvye/CNV8jhfJo= >X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19kDNxs/bZk0GQXbUjZ8xpHHoGQX5GAdfXcYWOf0UbMXA== >Mail-Followup-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general >discussions" >References: <20070214173806.GA6086 at gmx.de> ><87tzxobj9k.fsf at fjellstad.org><20070215101847.GA7723 at gmx.de> >User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 >X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 >X-BeenThere: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 >Precedence: list >List-Id: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >Return-Path: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2007 11:27:28.0124 (UTC) >FILETIME=[4612FBC0:01C750F4] > > > Luqman wanted us to know: > >>There is also html versions of the manual pages in > >>/usr/share/doc/libstdc++-doc/libstdc++/html_user > > > >Thanks for your reply. But I am a bit confused at seeing three different > >versions of libstdc++ on my system (edgy). > > > >- libstdc++5 > >- libstdc++6 > >- libstdc++6.4.1-dev > > > >I'll just install one doc version for now and see if it satisfies my > >I have read up a bit in google results for "man page c++" and it seems >there do not exist any man pages for c++ like for c. > >Having installed the above mentioned doc for c++, I think there is no >fast online reference available. I will have to seek resort in a good >c++ reference book. Offline reference will ofcourse never be looked up >as fast as a 3 stroke-away man page reference for c routines. > >Can anyone refer me to a good c++ reference book? > >Regards, > >-- >Luqman ><< signature.asc >> >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving � check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 15 13:00:56 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:00:56 -0500 Subject: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB30810930C9A@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <45CD949C.1020507@eml.cc> <20070210055447.073710ea@chisel> <45CDA59D.3070009@fahrlander.net> <20070210064626.2594bcd8@chisel> <45CDB73D.7090601@eml.cc> <20070210095913.55c0b177@chisel> <45CE1AB9.9070504@gatech.edu> <20070211022653.2a11fa6e@chisel> <45CECDE8.9000206@gatech.edu> <20070211035239.3603bc6c@chisel> <45CEDAC5.5050801@gatech.edu> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081076EBEB@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <1171339048.6111.1.camel@t42> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB30810930C9A@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <20070215080056.6ac92396@chisel> Patrick Newberry wrote: > > ...but that too should have been installed as a dependency. It might > not hurt to double check though. > > > By double checking do you mean going into synaptic and looking at that > list, or is there some other way to check for dependencies for a > package. Synaptic should do for this. Just check to be sure you have both php5-mysql and php5-mysqli installed. I suspect they are, but it doesn't hurt to check. > > There's also some entries in /etc/mime.types and > /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf. ;) > > > /etc/mime.types as follows: > > application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php > application/x-httpd-php-source phps > application/x-httpd-php3 php3 > application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3p > application/x-httpd-php4 php4 > > Should there be a php5 entry? No, that looks fine. > > There is no /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf file There should be. Apparently your un/re-installing disabled PHP somehow. Try this in a terminal (and then restart Apache)... sudo a2enmod php5 You should have both a php5.conf and php5.load in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled. Mine are short and look like this... php5.conf AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps php5.load LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so > there is a /etc/apache2/apache2.conf > which has the line: > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php Did you un-comment this line? You said you commented it out. It needs to be there. > goshawk at gypsyfarm:~$ hostname > gypsyfarm > goshawk at gypsyfarm:~$ hostname -f > localhost > > ok one has gypsyfarm, one had localhost. That's a problem. It's causing your Apache start up errors and it could prevent MySQL from working properly. It's *preferable* to have a FQDN but not absolutely necessary. The key is to have everything in sync. You need to edit both your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname so that all the names are the same, even if they're just "gypsyfarm" or "localhost". Then all your MySQL settings have to point to that host name. These are short text files also, so here's mine for example... /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.1.10 wrench.homelinux.net wrench # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts [... clipped...] /etc/hostname wrench.homelinux.net Yours will be different of course, the key is to get the appropriate entries in both files the same. I believe you could just as easily remove the 192.xxx from hosts and set hostname to 'localhost.localdomain' for example. But having "localhost" in one place and "gypsyfarm" in another only leads to confusion. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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What settings do you have in Options/Contents/Fonts & Colours for Firefox? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wstephens10 at cox.net Thu Feb 15 13:30:44 2007 From: wstephens10 at cox.net (William Stephens) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:30:44 -0600 Subject: daylight savings time fix Message-ID: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> Hello, I could find anything on this so I was wondering if anyone knows it ubuntu has an upcomimg fix for the daylight savings time changes in the US? William S. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 14:02:32 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:02:32 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: <45391f280702150517x13e6cq79f93b28ca2ab7ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <45391f280702150517x13e6cq79f93b28ca2ab7ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/15/07, Steve Flynn wrote: > > > > On 15/02/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a HTML document created from Google Docs, and I noticed that > > font's are not displayed properly compared to Epiphany. > > > > I have a sample document, compare the rendering between Epiphany and > > Firefox. > > > > Is it just a personal opinion? or just TTF Fonts doesn't render really > > well in Firefox. > > > > I can't post the document here in the mailing list so I just create a > > sample, > > see: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ajkn6thw8wrw_6hg7cb7 > > > > I have screenshots available also, > > http://picasaweb.google.com/joelbryan.juliano/FirefoxAndEpiphanyRenderingComparison > > > > > > Looks to me like Epiphony is rendering the fonts you specified, but > Firefox is rendering them in a Serif font - as far as I recall both Verdana > and Tahoma are San Serif fonts (my memory is sketchy on this however). What > settings do you have in Options/Contents/Fonts & Colours for Firefox? > -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > -- Hi, Currently, the Default Font is empty, I'm assuming that this is set to Deja Vu Sans (or still Bitstream, is it?). The advance preferences is set to Serif, also the color is set to default. I'm running latest Feisty, with upgraded Xorg 7.2, but I'm sure nothing has changed in the fonts compared to Xorg 7.1. Regards, Joel ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pete From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Feb 15 14:49:04 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:49:04 +0100 Subject: daylight savings time fix In-Reply-To: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> References: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> Message-ID: <45D472E0.7050209@welcomes-you.com> William Stephens wrote: > Hello, > I could find anything on this so I was wondering if anyone knows it > ubuntu has an upcomimg fix for the daylight savings time changes in the > US? There was a mail about this a few days ago: Message-ID: a45f73190702010858s4de5b957m9ed2aff125eb74d9 at mail.gmail.com in general, everything should already be set. Carsten From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 14:53:47 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:53:47 +0000 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: References: <45391f280702150517x13e6cq79f93b28ca2ab7ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280702150653x51dd03dcj4d74ac68d493ea66@mail.gmail.com> On 15/02/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > Looks to me like Epiphony is rendering the fonts you specified, but > > Firefox is rendering them in a Serif font - as far as I recall both Verdana > > and Tahoma are San Serif fonts (my memory is sketchy on this however). What > > settings do you have in Options/Contents/Fonts & Colours for Firefox? > > > > Currently, the Default Font is empty, > I'm assuming that this is set to Deja Vu Sans (or still Bitstream, is it?). > The advance preferences is set to Serif, > also the color is set to default. > > I'm running latest Feisty, with upgraded Xorg 7.2, but I'm sure nothing > has changed in the fonts compared to Xorg 7.1. > > If the text in the document is requested to rendered in those fonts, do you actually have those fonts installed? I know they are heavily used under Windows but do you actually have them installed in your OS? If not, the borwsers will attempt to make choices on substitue fonts and it looks to me like the two browsers have elected to go for differing fonts. Of course, if you actually have Tahoma and Verdana they should be used. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What > > > settings do you have in Options/Contents/Fonts & Colours for Firefox? > > > > > > > Currently, the Default Font is empty, > > I'm assuming that this is set to Deja Vu Sans (or still Bitstream, is it?). > > The advance preferences is set to Serif > > , > > also the color is set to default. > > > > I'm running latest Feisty, with upgraded Xorg 7.2, but I'm sure nothing > > has changed in the fonts compared to Xorg 7.1. > > > > > If the text in the document is requested to rendered in those fonts, do > you actually have those fonts installed? I know they are heavily used under > Windows but do you actually have them installed in your OS? If not, the > borwsers will attempt to make choices on substitue fonts and it looks to me > like the two browsers have elected to go for differing fonts. > > Of course, if you actually have Tahoma and Verdana they should be used. No, I don't have any other fonts other than the default ttf fonts packages in Ubuntu. I just use Tahoma and Verdana choices since it's one of the available fonts choices in Google Docs. I don't have msttfcorefonts either. I'm thinking maybe because Epiphany uses Cairo and Pango more than Firefox. -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sam.thurston at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 15:58:32 2007 From: sam.thurston at gmail.com (Samuel Thurston, III) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:58:32 -0600 Subject: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/07, email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: > On Thu, 15. February 2007 00:04:28 John Dangler wrote: > > Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? > > (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs > > this). > > I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to > > opengl than just that... > > For nvidia follow the documentation and check your xorg.conf: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia > > Following the steps mentioned in the documentation openGL should work as > expected. You also may have a look to the chapter "Troubleshooting". > > > I would think that there is a block missing in your xorg.conf: > ---8<---- > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Disable" > EndSection > ---8<--- > If you have everything else installed run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable That's it. no need to tinker with your xorg.conf except special circumstances. From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 15 16:11:45 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:11:45 -0800 Subject: [Resolved] Re: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Matthew Kuiken wrote: > NoOp wrote: >> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > >>> Yeah, here ya go. This is for the ServerFlags section: >>> >>> Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" True >>> >>> Try that, first; it's probably all it is- I'm assuming there's >>> actually some kind of video card in there (which might stop it) but the >>> lack of a mouse no longer will, with that added. >>> >>> If it does, let me know- we'll keep looking. In that case, send me a >>> .log of the attempt. You can mail me direct if you like- I expect to be >>> up for another 8-10 hours or so. >>> >> >> Found a problem on one test machine - you were right and that one halts >> at no keyboard present, so I'll need to reset it's bios. I'll be >> bringing the actual server home to test tomorrow & will let you know >> what I figure out. Thanks for all the assistance - gotta run Valentines >> day/nigh & all :-) > > I've been playing with Debian on the PS3 lately, and one of the pages > about it recommended that mousedev be added to /etc/modules in order to > ensure that the module is loaded even if the mouse is not connected. I > don't know if this will do anything different than the option above, but > it seems like a good idea to have the module loaded to ensure VNC can > use it properly. > > -Matt > > I feel dumb as a brick right now. Turns out that the machine that I was doing the testing on had it's BIOS set to halt on keyboard error. Brian was right all along regarding the bios (thanks Brian!). As soon as I reset the bios to *not* halt on keyboard error the machine pop right in, booted up, and I was able to establish the VNC to it... it hadn't been updated in awhile and is now downloading 45 updates :-) Thanks again folks & apologies for stirring the pot with my "operator headspace" error. From freeninad at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 16:18:04 2007 From: freeninad at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KS/4KSp4KSp4KS+4KSm?=) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:18:04 -0500 Subject: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi I have the following system Intel P4-2.4ghz processor on a D845gvsr mobo 256mb RAM Samsung combo drive(CD-R +DVD) 2 40gig HDD. The whole system was assembled in Oct 2004 Recently my pc stopped working and I was told that it is a motherboard problem and needs to be replaced. Now I am looking for a mobo+processor combo and many friends suggested AMD64 based processors. Points to be considered 1. My usage is limited to basic office applications, surfing, songs, videos, chat etc ie a desktop user. 2. I need to run some games on it for my kid and as such also need XP as my primary OS 3. Being a linux enthu most of my usage is on a Linux distro. 4. I also try out various new distros. 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URL: From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Thu Feb 15 16:31:18 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:31:18 +0200 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog Message-ID: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> Hi all, just happened to watch into my syslog, and this keeps going on in continuing rotation: Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201492.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201493.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:11 localhost kernel: [17201493.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:11 localhost kernel: [17201494.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:12 localhost kernel: [17201494.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:12 localhost kernel: [17201495.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:13 localhost kernel: [17201495.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:13 localhost kernel: [17201496.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:14 localhost kernel: [17201496.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:14 localhost kernel: [17201497.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:15 localhost kernel: [17201497.620000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Feb 15 18:28:15 localhost kernel: [17201498.120000] pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 Anyone got a clue what's going on? Tried switching the kernel, right now I got: jaska at ardbeg:~$ uname -r 2.6.17-11-generic ...but I changed to this from 2.6.17-11-386, no changes. I'd appreciate if someone could point me to correct direction in finding out what's happening. I don't know what additional info to tell ya, so just ask away. :) Thanks in advance! Regards, -- Jaska From mcontla at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 16:47:24 2007 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:47:24 -0800 Subject: daylight savings time fix In-Reply-To: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> References: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> Message-ID: <45D48E9C.2060904@gmail.com> William Stephens said the following on 02/15/2007 05:30 AM: > Hello, > > I could find anything on this so I was wondering if anyone knows it > ubuntu has an upcomimg fix for the daylight savings time changes in the > US? > > William S. > > > It should have already been updated. If you are concerned, check your current DST dates using: $ zdump -v $(cat /etc/timezone) | grep 2007 -- Mitch From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu Feb 15 17:00:34 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:00:34 -0500 Subject: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702151200.34303.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 15 February 2007 11:18, िऩऩाद wrote: > Hi > > I have the following system > Intel P4-2.4ghz processor on a D845gvsr mobo > 256mb RAM > Samsung combo drive(CD-R +DVD) > 2 40gig HDD. > The whole system was assembled in Oct 2004 > > Recently my pc stopped working and I was told that it is a motherboard > problem and needs to be replaced. > Now I am looking for a mobo+processor combo and many friends suggested > AMD64 based processors. > Points to be considered > 1. My usage is limited to basic office applications, surfing, songs, > videos, chat etc ie a desktop user. > 2. I need to run some games on it for my kid and as such also need XP as my > primary OS > 3. Being a linux enthu most of my usage is on a Linux distro. > 4. I also try out various new distros. > You can still get Intel D845 motherboards. No need to replace your current config if you don't want to. If you are interested in a performance boost, I think you'd be better off just getting another D845 motherboard and spending the rest of the money that you were planning on spending on RAM. 256MB is not a lot these days. I have a laptop with 256MB of RAM and I have to work to keep it from getting bogged down in swap. More memory will probably give you more of a boost than a new mobo/CPU. Scott K From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Thu Feb 15 18:57:32 2007 From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charles Kravetz) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:57:32 -0700 Subject: Feisty: HPLIP toolbox In-Reply-To: <45D3A113.4090601@eml.cc> References: <45D3A113.4090601@eml.cc> Message-ID: <1171565853.6908.1.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 23:53 +0000, inhabitant of zion wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > Q regarding last upgrade to herd 3. > > I notice the printer option has gone from control centre and has been > replaced by a button for HPLIP toolbox. > > Only the gui button does nada and I can't seem to find a man page for > this program to have a play from the command line. > > I seem to remember a friend said you can do a man page search via > firefox of the internet. But I can't remember how to do this and a > google search just brings up a load of hopeful looking links but none of > them much use! > > I am sure somebody on here can point me in the right direction. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF06ETSk8WqQy7AdYRAozcAJ4tPCNEd1XhEnt672TN7vYWYQASDgCfdSIH > Eqpq6rHOrIBmV7cSIt44YWs= > =TeCp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Will this help? It's the website for HPLIP toolbox. http://hplip.sourceforge.net -- Charlie Kravetz cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Linux User #425914 ref link http://counter.li.org/ Helping end multiple sclerosis ONE step at a time. From francois.rousseau.tech at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 19:29:46 2007 From: francois.rousseau.tech at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Rousseau?=) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:29:46 -0500 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) Message-ID: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, In Windows, we can do "left alt + num key" to get some special character. I search a way to do something similar in Linux Ubuntu 6.10, ideally the same thing. Thanks François Rousseau From lsof at nodata.co.uk Thu Feb 15 19:44:29 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:44:29 +0100 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <1171568669.3034.0.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Donnerstag, den 15.02.2007, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Janne Jokitalo: > Hi all, > > just happened to watch into my syslog, and this keeps going on in continuing > rotation: > > Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201492.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201493.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:11 localhost kernel: [17201493.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:11 localhost kernel: [17201494.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:12 localhost kernel: [17201494.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:12 localhost kernel: [17201495.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:13 localhost kernel: [17201495.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:13 localhost kernel: [17201496.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:14 localhost kernel: [17201496.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:14 localhost kernel: [17201497.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:15 localhost kernel: [17201497.620000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > Feb 15 18:28:15 localhost kernel: [17201498.120000] pci_set_power_state(): > 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > > Anyone got a clue what's going on? Tried switching the kernel, right now I got: > > jaska at ardbeg:~$ uname -r > 2.6.17-11-generic > > ...but I changed to this from 2.6.17-11-386, no changes. > > I'd appreciate if someone could point me to correct direction in finding out > what's happening. I don't know what additional info to tell ya, so just ask > away. :) Thanks in advance! > > > Regards, > > -- > Jaska > > Is this a laptop? Is the pc's fan going mad? From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Thu Feb 15 19:49:42 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:49:42 +0200 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <1171568669.3034.0.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> <1171568669.3034.0.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <45D4B956.6030504@dnainternet.net> nodata wrote: Hello nodata! >> Feb 15 18:28:15 localhost kernel: [17201498.120000] pci_set_power_state(): >> 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 >> > > Is this a laptop? Nope, it's a desktop machine, P3 1GHz proc. > Is the pc's fan going mad? Not that I can tell, no. Thanks for contributing! -- Jaska From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 20:04:47 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:04:47 -0600 Subject: [Resolved] Re: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D4BCDF.8060007@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NoOp wrote: > I feel dumb as a brick right now. > > Turns out that the machine that I was doing the testing on had it's BIOS > set to halt on keyboard error. Brian was right all along regarding the > bios (thanks Brian!). As soon as I reset the bios to *not* halt on > keyboard error the machine pop right in, booted up, and I was able to > establish the VNC to it... it hadn't been updated in awhile and is now > downloading 45 updates :-) > > Thanks again folks & apologies for stirring the pot with my "operator > headspace" error. GoodOnYa, bud; good luck with it! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF1Lzf6PLtRzZbdhYRAvMoAJwKou3tOHY5YfHe4+3/+PBK+Oo2vgCfRQsX ACyJwStiupNv4Ww/ZvBq4OY= =tVFj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Thu Feb 15 19:58:57 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:58:57 -0800 Subject: man pages for c++? References: <20070214173806.GA6086@gmx.de> <87tzxobj9k.fsf@fjellstad.org> <20070215101847.GA7723@gmx.de> <20070215112628.GB7723@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87r6srchvi.fsf@fjellstad.org> Luqman writes: >>Thanks for your reply. But I am a bit confused at seeing three different >>versions of libstdc++ on my system (edgy). >> >>- libstdc++5 >>- libstdc++6 >>- libstdc++6.4.1-dev >From what I can figure out, libstdc++5 is for g++ v 2.95 libstdc++6 is for g++ v 3.x libstdc++6-4.x is for g++ v 4.x So, if you are on edgy, you should probably install libstdc++6-4.1-doc > I have read up a bit in google results for "man page c++" and it seems > there do not exist any man pages for c++ like for c. They're wrong. Do man std::string for instance > Having installed the above mentioned doc for c++, I think there is no > fast online reference available. I will have to seek resort in a good > c++ reference book. Offline reference will ofcourse never be looked up > as fast as a 3 stroke-away man page reference for c routines. > > Can anyone refer me to a good c++ reference book? I really liked C++ Standard Library by Josuttis. Very good book. There is C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup. I like both these books. They complement each other. There is also a C++ In a Nutshell if you like those books. I haven't really read this one, so I can't say anything about it (I do like the Java and Perl versions, so the C++ might also be good). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 15 20:18:01 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:18:01 -0500 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> Janne Jokitalo wrote: > Hi all, > > just happened to watch into my syslog, and this keeps going on in > continuing rotation: > > Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201492.620000] > pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 You have a 3Com network interface by any chance? And/or a a network monitor applet running in a panel somewhere, or as a "desklet"?? If so, turn off the network monitor, or the networking portion of your system monitor applet and check again. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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No amount of reading HOWTOs, reading READMEs, or tweaking config files led to a working installation. So in the end I did the same thing: downloaded the tarball and did everything by hand. So now it works, here as well. Bjørn -- blog.bergcube.net/ From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 15 18:38:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:38:28 -0400 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ References: <1171495351.4753.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <4ulea4-r4g.ln1@pointerstop.ca> John Dangler wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 12:12 +1300, Tom Eastman wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> I have several different USB Mass Storage devices (cameras, MP3 players, >> memory sticks and removable hard drives). All of them are correctly >> mounted in /media/ as 'usbdisk' or something similar. >> >> What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory >> name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my >> camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. >> >> I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have >> to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere >> else. >> >> What do I need to do to get this working? > If I'm not mistaken, it may be as simple as creating the mount point > with the name you want, and then use mkdev (or some other dev utility) > to setup the name and associate with the mount point. You'd be very mistaken, I'm afraid - mkdev isn't much use (directly) these days, as udev creates and deletes these devices as they're hotplugged. udev rules (/etc/udev/rules.d/*.rules) allow you to specify all sorts of identifying information that can be used to name a /dev symlink. However, on my KDE desktop, istr that just renaming the device in the "properties" dialog for the icon would persist. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 15 18:43:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:43:56 -0400 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <20070215015424.GA18880@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: Clive Menzies wrote: > On (14/02/07 17:16), NoOp wrote: >> Folks, the question is not how I run VNC or access the machine afer it >> is booted; it is "how can I boot the machine without an attached >> keyboard & mouse". > > Well if you use aptitude to upgrade from the the command line; if you > need to reboot: > > $ sudo reboot > You're still missing the point - some PCs won't boot if there's no keyboard or monitor (I don't know of one that can't boot if it doesn't have a mouse). It would have been more obvious if Noop hadn't even mentioned VNC. It's BIOS dependent, so I don't think it's even something that Linux can fix. -- derek From burner at suppressingfire.org Thu Feb 15 21:01:49 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:01:49 -0500 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) In-Reply-To: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171573309.7269.17.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 14:29 -0500, François Rousseau wrote: > Hi, > > In Windows, we can do "left alt + num key" to get some special > character. I search a way to do something similar in Linux Ubuntu > 6.10, ideally the same thing. Which characters do you have in mind? The "left alt+num key" let you enter specific ASCII codes, which don't necessarily make sense in a unicode world (though I'm not saying a compatibility mode might exist). If you're looking for composed characters, such as ã, é, ş, or ṡ, you can check out the Keyboard Preferences control panel under System/Preferences. There's a "Layout Options" tab and you can select a "Compose key" which you can press just before typing two characters that you'd like to put together. For example, I have the "windows menu" key set to compose characters. I press the menu key, then 'a', then '"', and I get this: ä There are some other options in there, and you might like to try different layouts. I have two set so I can switch between Cyrillic and English with the right alt key. I also keep the Keyboard Indicator applet in my top panel so I can see what layout I'm using. до свидания mike > Thanks > > > > > François Rousseau -- Michael R. Head -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My fstab file, which didn't change is - /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 #NFS Share Mounts server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network browser either. Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes ago. Thank you. JT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 15 21:01:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:01:44 -0400 Subject: daylight savings time fix References: <1171546244.4898.2.camel@BILL.dl.cox.net> <45D48E9C.2060904@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mitch Contla wrote: > William Stephens said the following on 02/15/2007 05:30 AM: >> Hello, >> >> I could find anything on this so I was wondering if anyone knows it >> ubuntu has an upcomimg fix for the daylight savings time changes in the >> US? >> > It should have already been updated. If you are concerned, check your > current DST dates using: > > $ zdump -v $(cat /etc/timezone) | grep 2007 > Thanks! That shows exactly what it should for Halifax, NS :-) -- derek From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 15 21:13:37 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:13:37 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED] Re: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> Thanks for the help! I did have to turn off the composite to get the package (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... Thanks again for the help in getting the openGL working. On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 09:58 -0600, Samuel Thurston, III wrote: > On 2/14/07, email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: > > On Thu, 15. February 2007 00:04:28 John Dangler wrote: > > > Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? > > > (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs > > > this). > > > I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to > > > opengl than just that... > > > > For nvidia follow the documentation and check your xorg.conf: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia > > > > Following the steps mentioned in the documentation openGL should work as > > expected. You also may have a look to the chapter "Troubleshooting". > > > > > > I would think that there is a block missing in your xorg.conf: > > ---8<---- > > Section "Extensions" > > Option "Composite" "Disable" > > EndSection > > ---8<--- > > > > If you have everything else installed run: > > sudo nvidia-glx-config enable > > That's it. no need to tinker with your xorg.conf except special circumstances. > From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Feb 15 21:17:58 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:17:58 -0500 Subject: Eclipse in Edgy Message-ID: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> Has anyone installed Eclipse in Edgy? The install seems to go ok, but when you try and update anything, or install plug-ins, do you get errors that look like this? (I've had an open thread on the eclipse newcomers board for a couple of days with no replies, so I'm guessing it's either just me, or they're not as hospitable as the Ubuntu community. Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse Platform" due to errors. Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. Unable to create file "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] Unable to create file "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. Unable to create file "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] Unable to create file "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] Unable to create file "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] From alain.muls at telenet.be Thu Feb 15 21:19:00 2007 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:19:00 +0100 Subject: Varying proxy settings Message-ID: <200702152219.00836.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi, I use my PC at home and at work. At work I need to specify proxy settings but at home, the connection is direct. Ap present I start the desktop and specify the proxy-settings using kcontrol manually each time I switch from workplace. I want to use the interfaces possibility to specify using the post-up scripts the proxy settings for the network. At work they can be defined, but at home I would like to specify the global proxy settings as http_proxy="". Is this possible an dhow do you do it. -- mvg/Alain ________________________________________________________ Alain Muls Tel +32.2.7426340 Royal Military Academy Fax +32.2.7426472 Dep CISS-ASGE alain.muls at telenet.be ________________________________________________________ From Gilles at Gravier.org Thu Feb 15 21:29:44 2007 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:29:44 +0100 Subject: [RESOLVED] Re: OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D4D0C8.1020103@Gravier.org> Lots of things don't work well with composite extensions... Gilles. John Dangler wrote: > Thanks for the help! > I did have to turn off the composite to get the package > (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very > disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. > Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases > correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... > > I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. > dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of > workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext > (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and > somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. > If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... > > Thanks again for the help in getting the openGL working. > > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 09:58 -0600, Samuel Thurston, III wrote: > >> On 2/14/07, email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 15. February 2007 00:04:28 John Dangler wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone here know how to get opengl installed in 6.10? >>>> (I have mysql workbench installed, but it doesn't run because it needs >>>> this). >>>> I do have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently there's something more to >>>> opengl than just that... >>>> >>> For nvidia follow the documentation and check your xorg.conf: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia >>> >>> Following the steps mentioned in the documentation openGL should work as >>> expected. You also may have a look to the chapter "Troubleshooting". >>> >>> >>> I would think that there is a block missing in your xorg.conf: >>> ---8<---- >>> Section "Extensions" >>> Option "Composite" "Disable" >>> EndSection >>> ---8<--- >>> >>> >> If you have everything else installed run: >> >> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable >> >> That's it. no need to tinker with your xorg.conf except special circumstances. >> >> > > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From email.listen at googlemail.com Thu Feb 15 21:34:23 2007 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:34:23 +0100 Subject: Database modeler; Was: [RESOLVED] OopenGL In-Reply-To: <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <200702152234.27209.email.listen@googlemail.com> On Thu, 15. February 2007 22:13:37 John Dangler wrote: > Thanks for the help! > I did have to turn off the composite to get the package > (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very > disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. > Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases > correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... > > I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. > dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of > workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext > (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and > somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. > If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... [...] Is tora for oracle such a modeler tool you are looking for? http://tora.sourceforge.net/ Haven't seen such for mysql yet. But I'm no database designer. regards, thomas From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 15 21:34:51 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:34:51 -0600 Subject: OpenGL Modeller In-Reply-To: <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <200702150345.32974.email.listen@googlemail.com> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D4D1FB.2020300@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Dangler wrote: > Thanks for the help! > I did have to turn off the composite to get the package > (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very > disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. > Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases > correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... > > I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. > dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of > workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext > (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and > somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. > If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... > > Thanks again for the help in getting the openGL working. What kind of modeling are you needing? There's a good selection. I'm finding that AC3D works really well for design (for the CounterMoon.org project) because it's a CAD program that will let me change out interior designs, move lights and all that, before ever going into the trailer in the first place. There are dozens of game-oriented 3D environments which can be used for anything; UnrealTournament was used to model the space station, for example. See SourceForge.net for those. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF1NH76PLtRzZbdhYRAvMWAJ9QppEVomGjKH0VoQS0SpAJaFvxnwCdGS3W jP0ZqplNvyF9cU/8QGy2cZA= =nXqQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikeosmith at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 21:44:13 2007 From: mikeosmith at gmail.com (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:44:13 -0500 Subject: Eclipse in Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> References: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Just completely off the top of my head, but maybe you need to run eclipse as root: sudo eclipse -- Mike From burner at suppressingfire.org Thu Feb 15 21:55:38 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:55:38 -0500 Subject: Eclipse in Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> References: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171576538.7269.32.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 16:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Has anyone installed Eclipse in Edgy? The install seems to go ok, but > when you try and update anything, or install plug-ins, do you get errors > that look like this? > (I've had an open thread on the eclipse newcomers board for a couple of > days with no replies, so I'm guessing it's either just me, or they're > not as hospitable as the Ubuntu community. I don't use the packaged Eclipse, since I want to be able to install updates. When Eclipse was first packaged for Debian back in the day, there was a lot of work put in to make sure plugins could be installed to the home directory. I don't think that code has kept up with the Eclipse releases. The upshot is that it looks like you're running updates and trying to write to read-only locations. /usr/lib is a system folder and therefore you can't modify its contents as a user. You have a couple options 1. Somehow attempt to convince Eclipse to have extra installation locations - I think this is possible, but I'm not totally sure how 2. Give yourself write access to /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins and /usr/lib/eclipse/features * You can do this via sudo, but I don't recommend running something as big as eclipse via sudo -- that's a big security problem * The better alternative is to taken ownership of /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins and /usr/lib/eclipse/features Warning: I haven't tested this, but that should be a fairly complete explanation of the problem. > > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse Platform" due to errors. > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. > Unable to create file > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > Unable to create file > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. > Unable to create file > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > Unable to create file > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > Unable to create file > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Thu Feb 15 21:57:23 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:57:23 -0500 Subject: Eclipse in Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171576538.7269.32.camel@localhost> References: <1171574278.4710.15.camel@croatus> <1171576538.7269.32.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1171576643.7269.34.camel@localhost> Also, check out http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/multi_user_installs.html mike On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 16:55 -0500, Michael R. Head wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 16:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > > Has anyone installed Eclipse in Edgy? The install seems to go ok, but > > when you try and update anything, or install plug-ins, do you get errors > > that look like this? > > (I've had an open thread on the eclipse newcomers board for a couple of > > days with no replies, so I'm guessing it's either just me, or they're > > not as hospitable as the Ubuntu community. > > I don't use the packaged Eclipse, since I want to be able to install > updates. > > When Eclipse was first packaged for Debian back in the day, there was a > lot of work put in to make sure plugins could be installed to the home > directory. I don't think that code has kept up with the Eclipse > releases. The upshot is that it looks like you're running updates and > trying to write to read-only locations. /usr/lib is a system folder and > therefore you can't modify its contents as a user. > > You have a couple options > 1. Somehow attempt to convince Eclipse to have extra installation > locations - I think this is possible, but I'm not totally sure > how > 2. Give yourself write access to /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins > and /usr/lib/eclipse/features > * You can do this via sudo, but I don't recommend running > something as big as eclipse via sudo -- that's a big > security problem > * The better alternative is to taken ownership > of /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins > and /usr/lib/eclipse/features > > Warning: I haven't tested this, but that should be a fairly complete > explanation of the problem. > > > > > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse Platform" due to errors. > > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. > > Unable to create file > > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > Unable to create file > > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > Unable to complete action for feature "Eclipse RCP" due to errors. > > Unable to create file > > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > Unable to create file > > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > Unable to create file > > "/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.2.1.r321_v20060801-2ekW2BxmcpPUOoq/eclipse_update_120.jpg (No such file or directory)] > > > > > > > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For example, when I type make I receive these errors: make gcc -Wall -g -O2 -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2 noip2.c: In function ‘get_all_device_names’: noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘strlen’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘strlen’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of ‘__builtin_strcm p’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of ‘__builtin_strcm p’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘strlen’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of ‘__builtin_strcm p’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of ‘__builtin_strcm p’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of ‘strncmp’ differ in signedness noip2.c:2137: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘__builtin_strch r’ differ in signedness wadesmart at wadesmart:~/Desktop/noip-2.1.3$ make install if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/bin;fi if [ ! -d /usr/local/etc ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/etc;fi mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/etc': Permission denied make: *** [install] Error 1 and when I type make install I received this: Content-Type: text/html mv /tmp/no-ip2.conf /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf mv: cannot stat `/tmp/no-ip2.conf': No such file or directory make: *** [install] Error 1 Can someone help me with this? wade -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Ray From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 22:59:51 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:59:51 +0100 Subject: Little Help installing NO-IP client In-Reply-To: <1171579026.5738.258.camel@wadesmart> References: <1171579026.5738.258.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: Wade Smart a écrit : > 02152007 1634 GMT-6 > > Im trying to install the no-ip client with this instructions: > http://www.no-ip.com/support/guides/update_clients/setting_up_linux_update_client.html > I am sure that may help : sudo apt-get install no-ip (the package is on universe) From mcontla at gmail.com Thu Feb 15 23:48:41 2007 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:48:41 -0800 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) In-Reply-To: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> François Rousseau said the following on 02/15/2007 11:29 AM: > Hi, > > In Windows, we can do "left alt + num key" to get some special > character. I search a way to do something similar in Linux Ubuntu > 6.10, ideally the same thing. > > Thanks > > > > > François Rousseau > I don't know about 6.10, but in Dapper Ctrl+Shift+ achieves a similar result. For example, if I want an em dash, hold Ctrl+Shift and type 2014 on the keypad. -- Mitch From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 02:28:40 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:28:40 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> References: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> Message-ID: On 2/16/07, David Farning wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 14:35 +0000, Pete Ryland wrote: > > On 15/02/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a HTML document created from Google Docs, and I noticed that > > > font's are not displayed properly compared to Epiphany. > > > > If you don't have the Windows fonts package installed, which I assume > > contains this font, each browser will guess at what font to display > > (unless your style has fallback font options, which would be > > preferred). They seem to have made differing guesses, that's all. > > > > Pete > > > > Hey guys > I have forwarded this thread to ubuntu-mozillateam. We are the folks > who deal with all things mozilla related. > > thanks Hi, If only Firefox would be as high quality as Epiphany, then I'm not going to use Epiphany. The problem is everything is linked up and compiled with Firefox like an adware in Ubuntu, but all the devs know that it's possible to progress with this unpliant approach right from the start. There are xulrunner, which the debian mainstream have already been compiled in and been using in their GNOME desktop without the adware. I think people should think more about typesetting, rendering, and quality of the documents they worked on rather than the popularity of the application they use, I believe FOSS exists not just to provide an alternative, but a high quality alternative application that can do their jobs without loosing the quality of their work. 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From badgerclan at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 03:55:14 2007 From: badgerclan at gmail.com (Badger) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:55:14 -0800 Subject: Little Help installing NO-IP client In-Reply-To: <1171579026.5738.258.camel@wadesmart> References: <1171579026.5738.258.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <6ef077b60702151955m6503d2f8wa562fc663bce505f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/07, Wade Smart wrote: > > 02152007 1634 GMT-6 > > Im trying to install the no-ip client with this instructions: > > http://www.no-ip.com/support/guides/update_clients/setting_up_linux_update_client.html > > and Im running into errors they do not handle on this page. > > For example, when I type make I receive these errors: > make > gcc -Wall -g -O2 -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2 > noip2.c: In function 'get_all_device_names': > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' > differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' > differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of > '__builtin_strcm p' differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of > '__builtin_strcm p' differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' > differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of > '__builtin_strcm p' differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of > '__builtin_strcm p' differ in signedness > noip2.c:2135: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'strncmp' > differ in signedness > noip2.c:2137: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of > '__builtin_strch r' differ in signedness > wadesmart at wadesmart:~/Desktop/noip-2.1.3$ make install > if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/bin;fi > if [ ! -d /usr/local/etc ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/etc;fi > mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/etc': Permission denied > make: *** [install] Error 1 > > and when I type make install I received this: > Content-Type: text/html > > mv /tmp/no-ip2.conf /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf > mv: cannot stat `/tmp/no-ip2.conf': No such file or directory > make: *** [install] Error 1 > > Can someone help me with this? > > wade > >From a terminal: sudo apt-get install no-ip #it's in the universe repositiry once install run: sudo no-ip -C It will ask for the email address you registered with no-ip and then the passwd. 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URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 16 04:33:28 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:33:28 -0800 Subject: [Resolved] Re: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: <45D4BCDF.8060007@fahrlander.net> References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> <45D4BCDF.8060007@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > NoOp wrote: > >> I feel dumb as a brick right now. >> >> Turns out that the machine that I was doing the testing on had it's BIOS >> set to halt on keyboard error. Brian was right all along regarding the >> bios (thanks Brian!). As soon as I reset the bios to *not* halt on >> keyboard error the machine pop right in, booted up, and I was able to >> establish the VNC to it... it hadn't been updated in awhile and is now >> downloading 45 updates :-) >> >> Thanks again folks & apologies for stirring the pot with my "operator >> headspace" error. > > GoodOnYa, bud; good luck with it! > > - -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad > Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF1Lzf6PLtRzZbdhYRAvMoAJwKou3tOHY5YfHe4+3/+PBK+Oo2vgCfRQsX > ACyJwStiupNv4Ww/ZvBq4OY= > =tVFj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Sigh... got the boot problem fixed but on that test machine I *finally* just yesterday had managed to get the no name PCI modem to break dialtone (for fax)... however the updates that I downloaded this morning fixed that -- now it can't even find the modem. Even backed down 2 kernels. Only machine that I've *ever* managed to break dialtone & dial -- but that's another story & one that I'll leave for some other time. Yes, I know; buy a serial modem :-( In the interim I just keep a Windows machine fired up & connected for faxes. Thanks again for the help. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Feb 16 05:04:15 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:04:15 +1100 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070216160415.f7338680.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:04:02 +0100 "Jeremy Thompson" wrote: > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down On the server, have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart ? ( I'm assuming that you are using the nfs kernel server ) Also if you run ps aux | grep nfsd you should see a first line like root 4758 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Feb13 0:00 [nfsd4] Followed by about 8 lines each ending in [nfsd] . If you run cat /etc/default/portmap do you see a line like #OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1" ? That line should be commented out, as above, with a # , or portmap will only listen on the loopback interface of the server machine. rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.100 ( substitute the IP of your NFS server) should output quite a few lines including portmapper lines, nfs lines, nlockmgr, mountd and status . Good info at http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/ HTH and all that ... Peter From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 05:15:30 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:15:30 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: <1171595441.6013.9.camel@dfarning-laptop> References: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> <1171595441.6013.9.camel@dfarning-laptop> Message-ID: On 2/16/07, David Farning wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:28 +0800, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > If only Firefox would be as high quality as Epiphany, then I'm not > > going to use Epiphany. > > The problem is everything is linked up and compiled with Firefox like > > an adware in Ubuntu, > > but all the devs know that it's possible to progress with this > > unpliant approach right from the start. > > There are xulrunner, which the Debian mainstream have already been > > compiled in and been using in their > > GNOME desktop without the adware. > > > > What do you mean by firefox in ubuntu is an adware? Do you feel their > is too much Ubuntu branding If a user want only to have Epiphany as his browser, he can't, he'll have to live the fact that Firefox cannot be removed in his computer in Ubuntu, or else, everything will break. > I think people should think more about typesetting, rendering, and > > quality of the documents they worked on rather than the popularity of > > the application they use, I believe FOSS exists not just to provide an > > alternative, but a high quality alternative application that can do > > their jobs without loosing the quality of their work. > > > Since you are concerned about the quality of firefox, please consider > joining us on the ubuntu-mozillateam. We are currently looking for > triagers, wiki maintainers, and devs. > > thanks > > -- > David Farning > > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <1171305883.4712.3.camel@marley-20> Message-ID: <009701c7518c$4a8b1a50$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chombee" ,,,,,,,,,,,, > > Hi David, Sean and Ianthe > > Is any of you good with animations? > > I had an idea for one hour workshop (repeated 4 times a day, 5-9 > April). > Basically, I would like kids to be able to create animations starting > from one of their own drawings (made on the computer) while at the same > time learning something about computing. > > Do you have any ideas as to how I might implement this? > > Do you know of a software package I could use? > > Thanks in advance. > A good simple program is "Stopmotion" in the Universe Repository. I have used it to import digital photos in sequence and it works great. Image size may have to be reduced to get smooth playback. You could use computer drawings, scanned drawings, video captures, etc. Have fun with it, Bradley From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Fri Feb 16 05:39:37 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:39:37 +0200 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> Message-ID: <45D54399.4030001@dnainternet.net> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: Hi Jeffrey! > Janne Jokitalo wrote: > >> Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201492.620000] >> pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > > You have a 3Com network interface by any chance? And/or a a network > monitor applet running in a panel somewhere, or as a "desklet"?? Correct on both accounts. > If so, turn off the network monitor, or the networking portion of your > system monitor applet and check again. You were right, this does the trick. Thank you! Now, is there any way around this? I'd kinda not like syslog fill up of these, but would like to monitor the state of my networking though. I'll hit the google on this, now that I know what it is, but suggestions are always welcome. Thanks again! -- Jaska From francois.rousseau.tech at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 05:58:12 2007 From: francois.rousseau.tech at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Rousseau?=) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:58:12 -0500 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) In-Reply-To: <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <89fae3950702152158l1eee253dkb4b7897fbb8b06f3@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I will use multiple keyboard layout. François Rousseau 2007/2/15, Mitch Contla : > François Rousseau said the following on 02/15/2007 11:29 AM: > > Hi, > > > > In Windows, we can do "left alt + num key" to get some special > > character. I search a way to do something similar in Linux Ubuntu > > 6.10, ideally the same thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > François Rousseau > > > I don't know about 6.10, but in Dapper Ctrl+Shift+ achieves a > similar result. For example, if I want an em dash, hold Ctrl+Shift and > type 2014 on the keypad. > > -- > Mitch > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From freeninad at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 06:16:08 2007 From: freeninad at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KS/4KSp4KSp4KS+4KSm?=) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:16:08 -0500 Subject: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor In-Reply-To: <200702151200.34303.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <200702151200.34303.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: Do amd 64 processors support Linux. How is the review of AMD Athlon X2 and Asus motherboard Thanks Ninad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 06:35:26 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:35:26 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: References: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> <1171595441.6013.9.camel@dfarning-laptop> Message-ID: On 2/16/07, NoOp wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > > > If a user want only to have Epiphany as his browser, he can't, he'll > > have to live the fact that Firefox cannot be removed in his computer in > > Ubuntu, or else, everything will break. > > sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop > > works just fine. You'll have to include libnss3 and libnsp4, both compiled using firefox-dev, not libxul-dev. To use an entirely firefox-free desktop, we'll have to recompile the following to use libxul-dev. blam* bug-buddy* contact-lookup-applet* deskbar-applet* ekiga* epiphany-browser* epiphany-extensions* evolution* evolution-data-server* evolution-exchange* evolution-plugins* fast-user-switch-applet* firefox* firefox-dev* firefox-gnome-support* gnome-applets* gnome-control-center* gnome-panel* gnome-session* gnome-terminal* libcamel1.2-dev* libebook1.2-9* libebook1.2-dev* libecal1.2-dev* libedata-book1.2-2* libedata-book1.2-dev* libedataserver1.2-dev* libedataserverui1.2-8* libedataserverui1.2-dev* libgecko2.0-cil* libnspr-dev* libnspr4* libnss-dev* liferea* liferea-mozilla* mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb* nautilus* nautilus-cd-burner* nautilus-image-converter* nautilus-sendto* ubuntu-docs* yelp* Supposed if I'm a developer, and I want to use xulrunner to compile in my software. So I'll just add libxul-dev in the Build-Depends? No, not in Ubuntu I'm afraid. -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atheoi at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 06:48:27 2007 From: atheoi at gmail.com (Conrad Knauer) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:48:27 -0600 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2c8763bb0702152248l235ce6e5vef870960c11bb18c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > I have a HTML document created from Google Docs, and I noticed that > font's are not displayed properly compared to Epiphany. > > I have a sample document, compare the rendering between Epiphany and Firefox. > > Is it just a personal opinion? or just TTF Fonts doesn't render really > well in Firefox. > > I can't post the document here in the mailing list so I just create a sample, > see: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ajkn6thw8wrw_6hg7cb7 > > I have screenshots available also, > http://picasaweb.google.com/joelbryan.juliano/FirefoxAndEpiphanyRenderingComparison I think the problem is in Epiphany, not Firefox. I say this because I loaded the Google Docs URL you gave in Firefox, Epiphany, Konqueror and Opera and only the Epiphany page looked different (smaller). CK From atheoi at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 07:04:54 2007 From: atheoi at gmail.com (Conrad Knauer) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:04:54 -0600 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: References: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> <1171595441.6013.9.camel@dfarning-laptop> Message-ID: <2c8763bb0702152304j13e97a97u59124e9f32b1b3dd@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > > If only Firefox would be as high quality as Epiphany, then I'm not > > > going to use Epiphany. > > > The problem is everything is linked up and compiled with Firefox like > > > an adware in Ubuntu, > > > but all the devs know that it's possible to progress with this > > > unpliant approach right from the start. > > > There are xulrunner, which the Debian mainstream have already been > > > compiled in and been using in their > > > GNOME desktop without the adware. > > > > What do you mean by firefox in ubuntu is an adware? Do you feel their > > is too much Ubuntu branding > > If a user want only to have Epiphany as his browser, he can't, he'll have to live the fact that > Firefox cannot be removed in his computer in Ubuntu, or else, everything will break. That is not actually true; you can still have a working system without Firefox, though there will be a couple holes here and there. I think what you're really complaining about is that you can't have Epiphany without Firefox. But that's no excuse for calling it "adware". CK From dee at akwireless.net Fri Feb 16 07:12:58 2007 From: dee at akwireless.net (W.D.McKinney) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:12:58 -0900 Subject: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor In-Reply-To: d5d313fb0702152216k7c59986dr4e6014b32c5da18@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: <20070216071258.1dbd71f9@ribeye.akwireless.net> We run Ubuntu 64bit exclusively on servers. On both Intel Duo Core and AMD Duo Core. -Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: िऩऩाद [mailto:freeninad at gmail.com] To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com], GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India [mailto:linuxers at mm.glug-bom.org] Sent: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:16:08 -0900 Subject: Re: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor > Do amd 64 processors support Linux. > How is the review of AMD Athlon X2 and Asus motherboard > > > Thanks > Ninad > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 07:32:19 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:32:19 -0500 Subject: JRE Message-ID: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> I installed edgy a few days back and got the latest sun jre from the repo's, which I thought was 1.6 . When I run java --version, I get this: java version "1.4.2" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) Did I miss something? From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Feb 16 07:54:41 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:54:41 +0000 Subject: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <20070215015424.GA18880@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070216075441.GB5134@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (15/02/07 14:43), Derek Broughton wrote: > You're still missing the point - some PCs won't boot if there's no keyboard > or monitor (I don't know of one that can't boot if it doesn't have a > mouse). It would have been more obvious if Noop hadn't even mentioned VNC. > It's BIOS dependent, so I don't think it's even something that Linux can > fix. Yes. I realise that now .... I felt a bit stupid once I realised it was a BIOS problem. But you live and learn :) Thanks Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Fri Feb 16 08:04:19 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:04:19 +0200 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> John Dangler wrote: Hi John! > I installed edgy a few days back and got the latest sun jre from the > repo's, which I thought was 1.6 . Hmmm... I don't know where you got that idea: $ cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=edgy DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.10" $ apt-cache search java|grep sun jikes-sun - Wrapper for jikes using Sun Java classes sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 sun-java5-demo - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos and examples sun-java5-doc - Sun JDK(TM) Documention -- integration installer sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE) sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 sun-java5-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0 sun-java5-source - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 source files Using just standard repositories, you get that. > When I run java --version, I get this: > java version "1.4.2" > gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu > 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) > > Did I miss something? Something probably, cause: $ java --version java version "1.4.2" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) $ dpkg -S bin/java j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/javaws java-gcj-compat: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/java j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javac java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javah java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javadoc java-gcj-compat: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/jre/bin/java j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/javaws j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java_vm So the way I see it there are two possibilities for java versions, 1.4 and 1.5. No 1.6, perhaps it'll be in feisty? -- Jaska From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 16 08:04:05 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:04:05 -0600 Subject: [Resolved] Re: VNC + Boot w/o keyboard, video & mouse In-Reply-To: References: <20070215002458.GA14882@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45D3B3D6.3070001@fahrlander.net> <45D3BFF6.7090709@fahrlander.net> <45D3D50C.5090401@fahrlander.net> <45D3EEC7.80708@fahrlander.net> <45D4BCDF.8060007@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D56575.8030903@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NoOp wrote: > Sigh... got the boot problem fixed but on that test machine I *finally* > just yesterday had managed to get the no name PCI modem to break > dialtone (for fax)... however the updates that I downloaded this morning > fixed that -- now it can't even find the modem. Even backed down 2 > kernels. Only machine that I've *ever* managed to break dialtone & dial > -- but that's another story & one that I'll leave for some other time. > Yes, I know; buy a serial modem :-( In the interim I just keep a Windows > machine fired up & connected for faxes. Well, the 'can't break dial tone' is a tip-n-ring miss wire, isn't it? If you get the modem to make sense again, swap the red and green wires. > Thanks again for the help. Not at all; I get to help rarely, so when I can, I'm thrilled! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF1WV16PLtRzZbdhYRAn4oAJ0WNPGohQT8x6FpiZCIz4bCW/f6DACfYdVm TeHOFE2CA03Xixiou2E0GbQ= =0r9h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 08:16:37 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:16:37 -0500 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:04 +0200, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > Hi John! > > > I installed edgy a few days back and got the latest sun jre from the > > repo's, which I thought was 1.6 . > > Hmmm... I don't know where you got that idea: > > $ cat /etc/lsb-release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.10 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=edgy > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.10" > > $ apt-cache search java|grep sun > jikes-sun - Wrapper for jikes using Sun Java classes > sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 > sun-java5-demo - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos and examples > sun-java5-doc - Sun JDK(TM) Documention -- integration installer > sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE) > sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 > sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 > sun-java5-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0 > sun-java5-source - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 source files > > Using just standard repositories, you get that. > > > When I run java --version, I get this: > > java version "1.4.2" > > gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu > > 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) > > > > Did I miss something? > > Something probably, cause: > > $ java --version > java version "1.4.2" > gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) > > $ dpkg -S bin/java > j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/javaws > java-gcj-compat: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/java > j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java > j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java > java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javac > java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javah > java-gcj-compat-dev: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin/javadoc > java-gcj-compat: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/jre/bin/java > j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/javaws > j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/java_vm > > So the way I see it there are two possibilities for java versions, 1.4 and > 1.5. No 1.6, perhaps it'll be in feisty? Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses you listed... So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does the java --version report 1.4.2 ? > > > -- > Jaska > > From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Feb 16 08:22:00 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:22:00 +0100 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D569A8.1090600@welcomes-you.com> John Dangler wrote: > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? Try which java which java executable you use and check where /etc/alternatives/java points to. If you want to change that, update-alternatives might be helpful. HTH Carsten From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 08:22:09 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:22:09 +0000 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D569B1.5090800@manchester.ac.uk> John, John Dangler wrote: > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? YOu may need to configure which version of java is used with update-alternatives. Try: sudo update-alternatives --config java and then select the 1.5 version. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Fri Feb 16 08:36:18 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:36:18 +0200 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D56D02.3070506@dnainternet.net> John Dangler wrote: Hello again! > Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses you > listed... You probably haven't enabled multiverse component: $ apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin sun-java5-bin: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 Version table: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? When you type `java --version', the comp is executing actually: $ which java /usr/bin/java $ ls -l /usr/bin/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2005-10-14 17:21 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java And now you get to alternatives, which you can set by ussuing: $ sudo update-alternatives --all ...and choosing the correct answers from the lists that it gives you. Somewhere in there you should see different java versions. -- Jaska From atheoi at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 08:36:56 2007 From: atheoi at gmail.com (Conrad Knauer) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:36:56 -0600 Subject: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/07, John Dangler wrote: > Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses you > listed... > > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? I can't fully test my hypothesis since I'm running Feisty, but in Feisty using Java 6 the CLI command "java" isn't in a standard place for the system to see it... so maybe you have *both* 1.5 and 1.4 installed, but Java 5 doesn't have a "java" binary in the right place? On my system, if I go to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin and from Terminal run "./java -version", the output is: java version "1.6.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) Do you maybe have a similar directory with a "java" executable? CK From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 08:52:47 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:52:47 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE In-Reply-To: <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> Thanks Conrad, Janne, and Tony! I was missing the update-alternatives... Now I have: gymsmoke at croatus:~$ which java /usr/bin/java gymsmoke at croatus:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-02-10 03:15 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java gymsmoke at croatus:~$ java -version java version "1.5.0_08" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing) On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > On 2/16/07, John Dangler wrote: > > > Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses you > > listed... > > > > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? > > I can't fully test my hypothesis since I'm running Feisty, but in > Feisty using Java 6 the CLI command "java" isn't in a standard place > for the system to see it... so maybe you have *both* 1.5 and 1.4 > installed, but Java 5 doesn't have a "java" binary in the right place? > > On my system, if I go to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin and from > Terminal run "./java -version", the output is: > > java version "1.6.0" > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) > > Do you maybe have a similar directory with a "java" executable? > > CK > From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 08:55:08 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:55:08 +0100 Subject: Fail to execute a binary file from a CD... Message-ID: Hi, This is the problem: gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ ls -l total 1313 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1565 2006-06-21 19:44 autorun -r--r--r-- 1 root root 173 2006-06-21 19:44 autorun.inf drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 2048 2006-06-21 19:44 Install Acrobat Reader -r--r--r-- 1 root root 9116 2006-06-21 19:44 installMac -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1565 2006-06-21 19:44 installMacOSX.command -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2039 2006-06-21 19:44 installMacOSXPreview.command -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 74690 2006-06-21 19:44 install.map -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1156833 2006-06-21 19:44 Install.pdf -r--r--r-- 1 root root 74629 2006-06-21 19:44 installPreview.map -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10470 2006-06-21 19:44 Install.txt -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1565 2006-06-21 19:44 installUnix -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 127 2006-06-21 19:44 installWin.bat drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 2048 2006-06-21 19:44 ostudio -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1561 2006-06-21 19:44 readme.txt drwxrwxrwx 5 root root 2048 2006-06-21 19:44 vw7.4.1nc gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo ./installUnix sudo: unable to execute ./installUnix: Permission denied What is the problem? Thank you for your help! From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 08:57:06 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:57:06 -0500 Subject: [OT] applications Message-ID: <1171616226.28760.19.camel@croatus> I'm looking to design a user interface for an application, and wanted to ask the list if they have any suggestions for a "visual layout tool" that would work? I've tried to use Eclipse - seems very complex, and the community there is about as open as the kernel dev irc channel in gentoo... Nvu might be one possibility And I did notice that geany is in the repo's as well... Has anyone here designed user interfaces for apps and, if so, what do you use? Thanks for the input. I'd like to do this app in a language that is scalable, web-enabled, and can make use of xml doc files... Any input is appreciated. From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 09:12:09 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:12:09 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... Message-ID: Hi, I use the graphical interface or I write directly into /etc/resolv.conf, the problem is the same. When I reboot the PC, the DNS I write into /etc/resolv.conf is replaced by the address of the router and the adress of a DNS. So, this is what I write into my /etc/resolv.conf: domain orange.fr nameserver 80.10.246.130 nameserver 80.10.246.3 And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: domain orange.fr nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 80.10.246.3 My rooter is able to get DNS dynamically or not, it's the same problem! What is the process writing into my /etc/resolv.conf file? Thank you for your help! From kristian at zimmer428.net Fri Feb 16 09:13:14 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:13:14 +0100 Subject: [OT] applications In-Reply-To: <1171616226.28760.19.camel@croatus> References: <1171616226.28760.19.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070216101314.105c798f@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John; [John Dangler @ Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:57:06 -0500] > I'm looking to design a user interface for an application, and wanted > to ask the list if they have any suggestions for a "visual layout > tool" that would work? [...] > I'd like to do this app in a language that is scalable, web-enabled, > and can make use of xml doc files... You should be more specific in what you want to build: - - Does "web-enabled" mean "web application", in your case? Or should it also be a desktop-based application? - - What language / platform do you want to use? Java? LAMP? Some sort of CGI? Zope/Python? - - Do you want to make use of some more "high-level" framework (Ruby-on-Rails, django, grails, JSF, ...) or merely the lowest meaningful abstraction level possible (in case of Java EE: JSP+Servlets)? If you want to go for a desktop application that also works "online", go for some Java-based solution and use a Java Application (for desktop) as well as a Java Applet (for web) project. NetBeans comes with the Matisse GUI builder that should provide pleasant support for building user interfaces for the both of them. If you want to go for a web-only Java solution, NetBeans also provides you with a "Visual Web Pack" that allows for building JSF based visual applications in rather short time, assuming you know all the gory details about the framework and do have some basic understanding of JEE development as well as deployment infrastructure - the NetBeans site comes with loads of tutorials that could be helpful here. If you want to build a "low-level" online application, go for some visual HTML editor (NVu, Seamonkey Composer, ...), create and style some XHTML forms and build some backend logic in your favorite environment to do the actual work. Choice is up to you, however. :) Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF1XWxcxBAPOA1m6wRAgnsAJ9mLfSRMqQjzPVIBSCAJDKe/7R2/wCfecOv vgmqqx1PNlyG62igIlW3Xo4= =3sRa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From custom at freenet.de Fri Feb 16 09:27:57 2007 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:27:57 +0700 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: > domain orange.fr > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > nameserver 80.10.246.3 I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it replaces the DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, but actually per network of which there can be many, especially wireless ones.) Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are gone with the wind. :) Cheers, Chanchao From stude.list at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 09:28:50 2007 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:28:50 +0000 Subject: Fail to execute a binary file from a CD... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0702160128x61a0392y8b0cb86479475c13@mail.gmail.com> On 16/02/07, Patrick Gelin wrote: > gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo ./installUnix > sudo: unable to execute ./installUnix: Permission denied > > What is the problem? CDs have user as an option in /etc/fstab. user adds the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev for security. You wouldn't want a user being ables to save an SUID binary on a machine they had root access to and then running it on a PC they didn't to elevate privileges. Similar reasoning applies to the nodev. If you trust every user you could edit /etc/fstab to allow execution. (add ,exec after noauto) NOT recommended, for security reasons. Or you can mount the CD as root with different options. try: umount /media/cdrom0 mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 -t udf,iso9660 -o exec,umask=0222,nosuid,nodev not 100% sure that command is right btw. replace /dev/hdc with whatever device is your CD drive. replace /media/cdrom0 with wherever your CD is mounted (the umask allows all users to read and execute, if you don't want that then omit that bit but you will need to run the file from the CD as root, which is a bad idea). Or you could just copy the file, and everything else it needs to a directory on your hard drive and chmod u+x filename (a problem if its looking for files on the CD, but safer). If you are the only user on the machine then you might not need to be so concerned about all users being able to execute stuff for option 2. Hope that helps Andy From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 09:39:39 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:39:39 -0500 Subject: [OT] applications In-Reply-To: <20070216101314.105c798f@n428> References: <1171616226.28760.19.camel@croatus> <20070216101314.105c798f@n428> Message-ID: <1171618779.28760.38.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:13 +0100, Kristian Rink wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > John; > > [John Dangler @ Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:57:06 -0500] > > > I'm looking to design a user interface for an application, and wanted > > to ask the list if they have any suggestions for a "visual layout > > tool" that would work? > [...] > > I'd like to do this app in a language that is scalable, web-enabled, > > and can make use of xml doc files... > > You should be more specific in what you want to build: > - - Does "web-enabled" mean "web application", in your case? Or should it > also be a desktop-based application? > - - What language / platform do you want to use? Java? LAMP? Some sort of > CGI? Zope/Python? > - - Do you want to make use of some more "high-level" framework > (Ruby-on-Rails, django, grails, JSF, ...) or merely the lowest > meaningful abstraction level possible (in case of Java EE: > JSP+Servlets)? java, python, ruby, php, xhtml, C, they all came to mind... that's why I posed the question. While I was looking more toward a visual layout tool alone, I know I had an entire IDE in the back of my mind, which would probably be optimal since it would certainly make the transition go easier from logic/conceptual to physical modeling of the application. (I'm not familiar with django)... > > If you want to go for a desktop application that also works "online", > go for some Java-based solution and use a Java Application (for > desktop) as well as a Java Applet (for web) project. NetBeans comes > with the Matisse GUI builder that should provide pleasant support for > building user interfaces for the both of them. This sounds like the direction I have in mind. I did the initial backend design as a small star schema (only 18 core tables) in mysql 5, and I already did an xsd version of the build, so putting the classes together in almost any language wouldn't be too difficult. I'm envisioning this as (primarily) a desktop application that could be used locally, but could also connect to a (presumably LAMP) server for the backend work. Having never rigged a server for java applications, I'm not sure what that would entail, but I'm willing to give it a go, since I did manage to get my Ubuntu server to run pretty well with Apache 2, mysql 5, php5, qmail, and bind9 (it started with breezy and currently runs dapper, although I really want to upgrade it to edgy). > > If you want to go for a web-only Java solution, NetBeans also provides > you with a "Visual Web Pack" that allows for building JSF based visual > applications in rather short time, assuming you know all the gory > details about the framework and do have some basic understanding of JEE > development as well as deployment infrastructure - the NetBeans site > comes with loads of tutorials that could be helpful here. My java/J2EE is a bit rusty, but since I've been accepted to a dual-degree program which starts this month, I've had a chance to speak to one of my IT professors who tells me that I'll get plenty of chances to bone up on it, since they're using java/net beans as the basis for all of the OO coursework (I think they specifically mentioned Sun Studio as an IDE). > > If you want to build a "low-level" online application, go for some > visual HTML editor (NVu, Seamonkey Composer, ...), create and style some > XHTML forms and build some backend logic in your favorite environment > to do the actual work. I thought about this, but I really want something more robust so that, in the off chance that I can get this app off the ground, I'd like to make it available to the Ubuntu community (primarily). It's a sorely needed application that I haven't seen too much out there that meets this particular need... > > Choice is up to you, however. :) > Cheers, > Kristian I really appreciate the well thought out reply! It really helps. My main skills are in data architecture and database design/modeling/development, although I've done my share of UI's on a couple of dozen application projects, but I really need a leg up when it comes to going through the SDLC for myself. > > > > - -- > Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ > jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 > "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together > is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF1XWxcxBAPOA1m6wRAgnsAJ9mLfSRMqQjzPVIBSCAJDKe/7R2/wCfecOv > vgmqqx1PNlyG62igIlW3Xo4= > =3sRa > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 09:42:53 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:42:53 -0500 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... In-Reply-To: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > > > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: > > domain orange.fr > > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? here's my resolv.conf... nameserver 209.208.124.98 nameserver 209.208.124.99 search mgjventures.com atlantic.net nameserver 209.208.25.18 nameserver 209.208.42.132 It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, dist-upgrades through 3 different Ubuntu's ... hth John Dangler > I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager > Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it replaces the > DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. > > I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should > clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, but > actually per network of which there can be many, especially wireless > ones.) > > Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are gone > with the wind. :) > > Cheers, > Chanchao > > From mdebian at sfsb.hr Fri Feb 16 09:46:13 2007 From: mdebian at sfsb.hr (Mirko Scurk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:46:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor In-Reply-To: References: <200702151200.34303.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <55368.161.53.210.10.1171619173.squirrel@webmail.sfsb.hr> िऊऊञऌ wrote: > Do amd 64 processors support Linux. > How is the review of AMD Athlon X2 and Asus motherboard > > > Thanks > Ninad > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Good question. They should be built that way! -- Mirko Scurk From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 09:59:47 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:59:47 +0100 Subject: Fail to execute a binary file from a CD... References: <219482c0702160128x61a0392y8b0cb86479475c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andy wrote: > On 16/02/07, Patrick Gelin wrote: >> gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo ./installUnix >> sudo: unable to execute ./installUnix: Permission denied >> >> What is the problem? > > CDs have user as an option in /etc/fstab. > user adds the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev for security. > You wouldn't want a user being ables to save an SUID binary on a > machine they had root access to and then running it on a PC they > didn't to elevate privileges. Similar reasoning applies to the nodev. > ok, but I'm the user knowing the sudo right password, I'm working with my machine, I must to be able to exec the binary even if it's from a CD! From kristian at zimmer428.net Fri Feb 16 10:08:08 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:08:08 +0100 Subject: [OT] applications In-Reply-To: <1171618779.28760.38.camel@croatus> References: <1171616226.28760.19.camel@croatus> <20070216101314.105c798f@n428> <1171618779.28760.38.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070216110808.62135592@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [John Dangler @ Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:39:39 -0500] > java, python, ruby, php, xhtml, C, they all came to mind... that's > why I posed the question. While I was looking more toward a visual > layout tool alone, I know I had an entire IDE in the back of my mind, > which would probably be optimal since it would certainly make the > transition go easier from logic/conceptual to physical modeling of > the application. Of course an IDE can be rather helpful here (as it provides you with a consistent environment of tools to get all these things done). For that, I'd recommend goin' through http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/web.html for web application development and http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/matisse.html for the more "desktop-based" kind of stuff. In the end, however, it comes down to having a good IDE that also employs good frameworks (JEE, Spring, ...) in order to ease development and building a well-designed application. > I'm envisioning this as (primarily) a desktop application that could > be used locally, but could also connect to a (presumably LAMP) server > for the backend work. Well, if this is a database-backed thing, you're quite in some trouble by here already, as by then you have to ensure you do have enough information available locally (in an offline database? in XML files?) which are consistent to those stored in a server database. In this case, you should probably think about the "classical" three-tier architecture and make your client / User Interface connect to the server using some more or less standardized way - SOAP? XML-RPC? Java RMI? You even could do this using LAMP given your backend is, in example, exposing a couple of SOAP service endpoints for the client application to use... ;) > applications, I'm not sure what that would entail, but I'm willing to > give it a go, since I did manage to get my Ubuntu server to run > pretty well with Apache 2, mysql 5, php5, qmail, and bind9 (it > started with breezy and currently runs dapper, although I really want > to upgrade it to edgy). Looking at tomcat, you will find that getting started with it is rather straightforward - get a JDK, get tomcat, unzip and get started. However, if you do have a good architecture and decide not to use server-side Java for client technology (JSF), you might as well go with LAMP. > I really appreciate the well thought out reply! It really helps. My > main skills are in data architecture and database > design/modeling/development, although I've done my share of UI's on a > couple of dozen application projects, but I really need a leg up when > it comes to going through the SDLC for myself. You're welcome. :) However, in most of these situations a strict separation of concerns really helps. Set up a LAMP environment to provide your backend, build a Java desktop client to connect to it, and do communication using something available in both worlds (SOAP, or even plain HTTP depending on your requirements), and you'll get the best of both worlds play nicely together. ;) Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF1YKOcxBAPOA1m6wRAsDvAKCkpVt1O/LwHFrRj39qsTgTIFRrugCdE7T6 3CW7/bTNq01qmU3gLxX4qZE= =fvEB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 10:29:07 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:29:07 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> Message-ID: No, there is no search line, my resolv.conf is: domain orange.fr nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 80.10.246.3 I don't know how to write a search line, is it like this? search orange.fr Cheers Patrick John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: >> >> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: >> > domain orange.fr >> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 >> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 >> > Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? > here's my resolv.conf... > nameserver 209.208.124.98 > nameserver 209.208.124.99 > search mgjventures.com atlantic.net > nameserver 209.208.25.18 > nameserver 209.208.42.132 > > It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, dist-upgrades through 3 > different Ubuntu's ... > > hth > John Dangler > >> I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager >> Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it replaces the >> DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. >> >> I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should >> clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, but >> actually per network of which there can be many, especially wireless >> ones.) >> >> Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are gone >> with the wind. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Chanchao >> >> From Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl Fri Feb 16 11:28:41 2007 From: Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl (Joris Dobbelsteen) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:28:41 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com><1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Your DHCP server (which is probably part of your broadband router) assigns not only an IP address, but also the entire network configuration. So it also assign the dns servers. If you want a different configuration, you should probably change the settings in your broadband router. (Although I don't see any reason not to the router's integrated dns server, it does exactly that forwarding) - Joris >-----Original Message----- >From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of >Patrick Gelin >Sent: vrijdag 16 februari 2007 11:29 >To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Re: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... > >No, there is no search line, my resolv.conf is: >domain orange.fr >nameserver 192.168.0.1 >nameserver 80.10.246.3 > >I don't know how to write a search line, is it like this? > >search orange.fr > >Cheers >Patrick > >John Dangler wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: >>> >>> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: >>> > domain orange.fr >>> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 >>> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 >>> >> Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? >> here's my resolv.conf... >> nameserver 209.208.124.98 >> nameserver 209.208.124.99 >> search mgjventures.com atlantic.net >> nameserver 209.208.25.18 >> nameserver 209.208.42.132 >> >> It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, >dist-upgrades through >> 3 different Ubuntu's ... >> >> hth >> John Dangler >> >>> I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager >>> Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it >replaces the >>> DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. >>> >>> I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should >>> clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, >>> but actually per network of which there can be many, especially >>> wireless >>> ones.) >>> >>> Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are >>> gone with the wind. :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chanchao >>> >>> > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 11:43:58 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:43:58 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com><1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: Yes, you arre true. I'm using the DHCP, so it's the reason... But I can't change that parameter, I have to use the DHCP configuration. But what I have to test is to not get DNS dynamically by the rooter. May be it's the reason the DHCP is slow... Thank you for your help. Joris Dobbelsteen wrote: > Your DHCP server (which is probably part of your broadband router) > assigns not only an IP address, but also the entire network > configuration. > So it also assign the dns servers. > > If you want a different configuration, you should probably change the > settings in your broadband router. > > (Although I don't see any reason not to the router's integrated dns > server, it does exactly that forwarding) > > - Joris > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >>[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of >>Patrick Gelin >>Sent: vrijdag 16 februari 2007 11:29 >>To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>Subject: Re: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... >> >>No, there is no search line, my resolv.conf is: >>domain orange.fr >>nameserver 192.168.0.1 >>nameserver 80.10.246.3 >> >>I don't know how to write a search line, is it like this? >> >>search orange.fr >> >>Cheers >>Patrick >> >>John Dangler wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >>>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: >>>> >>>> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: >>>> > domain orange.fr >>>> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 >>>> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 >>>> >>> Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? >>> here's my resolv.conf... >>> nameserver 209.208.124.98 >>> nameserver 209.208.124.99 >>> search mgjventures.com atlantic.net >>> nameserver 209.208.25.18 >>> nameserver 209.208.42.132 >>> >>> It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, >>dist-upgrades through >>> 3 different Ubuntu's ... >>> >>> hth >>> John Dangler >>> >>>> I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager >>>> Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it >>replaces the >>>> DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. >>>> >>>> I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should >>>> clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, >>>> but actually per network of which there can be many, especially >>>> wireless >>>> ones.) >>>> >>>> Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are >>>> gone with the wind. :) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chanchao >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>-- >>ubuntu-users mailing list >>ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 16 11:50:02 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:50:02 -0500 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <45D54399.4030001@dnainternet.net> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> <45D54399.4030001@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <20070216065002.0daabcab@chisel> Janne Jokitalo wrote: > >> Feb 15 18:28:10 localhost kernel: [17201492.620000] > >> pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:0a.0: state=3, current state=5 > > > > You have a 3Com network interface by any chance? And/or a a network > > monitor applet running in a panel somewhere, or as a "desklet"?? > > Correct on both accounts. > > > If so, turn off the network monitor, or the networking portion of > > your system monitor applet and check again. > > You were right, this does the trick. Thank you! > > Now, is there any way around this? I'd kinda not like syslog fill up > of these, but would like to monitor the state of my networking > though. I'll hit the google on this, now that I know what it is, but > suggestions are always welcome. As I read it this is largely a 3Com issue, and not isolated to Ubuntu. My "ideal solution" would be to replace the NIC with something not 3Com of you can, mostly because NICs are just that cheap. I did see some discussion about a kernel patch, but I doubt it's worth messing with custom kernels that will have to be re-patched and recompiled every update, unless you're *deeply* in love with your network monitor. ;) As far as Google goes, try "pci_set_power_state() syslog" minus the quotes. There's also this very short thread with a couple links in it... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320969 Good hunting! -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses > you > > > listed... > > > > > > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, > does > > > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? > > > > I can't fully test my hypothesis since I'm running Feisty, but in > > Feisty using Java 6 the CLI command "java" isn't in a standard place > > for the system to see it... so maybe you have *both* 1.5 and 1.4 > > installed, but Java 5 doesn't have a "java" binary in the right place? > > > > On my system, if I go to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin and from > > Terminal run "./java -version", the output is: > > > > java version "1.6.0" > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) > > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) > > > > Do you maybe have a similar directory with a "java" executable? > > > > CK > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What could a job do if the disk is unmounted. >> >> Also I would like to stop this disk while it is not used. Is this >> possible? How? > err - unplug it ? That can't be done by the automated backup process. > > if the disk is mounted at boot time, try turning it off, and then > mounting it as part of the script which runs your nightly backup, then > unmount it again. Why should I turn it off? I just unmount it. It is only temporarily mounted by the backup job. /m From ttmrichter at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 12:25:42 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:25:42 +0800 Subject: Firefox HTML Rendering In-Reply-To: <2c8763bb0702152304j13e97a97u59124e9f32b1b3dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171562006.6030.2.camel@dfarning-laptop> <1171595441.6013.9.camel@dfarning-laptop> <2c8763bb0702152304j13e97a97u59124e9f32b1b3dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171628743.13076.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-16-02 at 01:04 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > I think > what you're really complaining about is that you can't have Epiphany > without Firefox. But that's no excuse for calling it "adware". You're always taken more seriously if you use as many FUD-worthy words as possible when complaining about a peeve. (Hint: use of "" tags may make the previous sentence clearer.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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One way to stop this happening is to make a file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks that looks like this: ( between the --------- lines ) --------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/bash # Stop replacing /etc/resolv.conf !! function make_resolv_conf { echo “Doing nothing to resolv.conf” } --------------------------------------------------- Make that executable with sudo chmod +x and your /etc/resolv.conf will not change again ;) Be aware though, that if you do this you need to be *sure*, of course, that you do not want it to change at all. Peter From dlithgow at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 13:13:14 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:13:14 +0100 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz Message-ID: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> I installed Compiz and GL Desktop for a look. They're working pretty well but there are too many small problems which make it annoying. However when I try to boot into a Gnome session I only get as far as the splash screen after the log on screen. I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and that didn't help at all, so I tried xubuntu-desktop and that was fine. So how do I get the normal Gnome session working again? Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I ran the following command sudo a2enmod php5 which then fixed the problem. I set up a php page, connected to mysql, read for a table, displayed results etc. All Good! I still have some issues with the fully qualified domain name, but will do some reading on my own first. Thanks to everyone! Pat Newberry www.gypsyfarm.com From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 13:41:10 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:41:10 -0400 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mitch Contla wrote: > François Rousseau said the following on 02/15/2007 11:29 AM: >> Hi, >> >> In Windows, we can do "left alt + num key" to get some special >> character. I search a way to do something similar in Linux Ubuntu >> 6.10, ideally the same thing. >> > I don't know about 6.10, but in Dapper Ctrl+Shift+ achieves a > similar result. For example, if I want an em dash, hold Ctrl+Shift and > type 2014 on the keypad. > No, it really depends how you're configured. That's not a default. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 13:52:11 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:52:11 -0400 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160351g3259f018mc2df316edd940725@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Conrad Knauer wrote: > You know what's funny; I tried the update-alternatives and found two > versions that I didn't want on my system (they were installed as > dependencies as I was testing out programs), deleted those and now running > java -version from anywhere just works! 8-) > > Doing tech support can help more than just other people it seems > ;) Exactly! gij gets installed for a number of things if you don't explicitly choose a java vm. If you have a sun-java* package installed, gij &/or kaffe don't usually get installed. -- derek From sam.thurston at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 14:13:18 2007 From: sam.thurston at gmail.com (Samuel Thurston, III) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:13:18 -0600 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz In-Reply-To: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> References: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4e8cc6b10702160613o74a70fd7x53477e5288cf9ddf@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > I installed Compiz and GL Desktop for a look. They're working pretty > well but there are too many small problems which make it annoying. > So how do I get the normal Gnome session working again? I'm having the same problem. I forgot how I configured mine. I have to get a terminal and run metacity --replace right now because my compiz windows are all grey. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 14:05:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:05:07 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: >> >> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: >> > domain orange.fr >> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 >> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 >> > Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? > here's my resolv.conf... > nameserver 209.208.124.98 > nameserver 209.208.124.99 > search mgjventures.com atlantic.net > nameserver 209.208.25.18 > nameserver 209.208.42.132 > > It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, dist-upgrades through 3 > different Ubuntu's ... "Search" with only a single domain is _exactly_ the same as "domain". -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 13:58:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:58:00 -0400 Subject: Fail to execute a binary file from a CD... References: <219482c0702160128x61a0392y8b0cb86479475c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8spga4-5a8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Patrick Gelin wrote: > Andy wrote: > >> On 16/02/07, Patrick Gelin wrote: >>> gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo ./installUnix >>> sudo: unable to execute ./installUnix: Permission denied >>> >>> What is the problem? >> >> CDs have user as an option in /etc/fstab. >> user adds the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev for security. >> You wouldn't want a user being ables to save an SUID binary on a >> machine they had root access to and then running it on a PC they >> didn't to elevate privileges. Similar reasoning applies to the nodev. >> > ok, but I'm the user knowing the sudo right password, I'm working with my > machine, I must to be able to exec the binary even if it's from a CD! Yes, this doesn't sound right. You should also be able to mount CDs _as_ a user, and execute them with user privilege. What happens if you use: sudo bash /media/cdrom/installUnix Also, I'd want to have my working directory set somewhere other than /media/cdrom, as you'll definitely run init permission problems if it tries to write anything. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 13:43:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:43:34 -0400 Subject: Database modeler; Was: [RESOLVED] OopenGL References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> <200702152234.27209.email.listen@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <61pga4-5a8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: > On Thu, 15. February 2007 22:13:37 John Dangler wrote: >> Thanks for the help! >> I did have to turn off the composite to get the package >> (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very >> disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. >> Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases >> correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... >> >> I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. >> dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of >> workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext >> (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and >> somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. >> If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... > [...] > > Is tora for oracle such a modeler tool you are looking for? > http://tora.sourceforge.net/ I thought tora used to support mysql. I'm sure I originally got it from Debian, which of course doesn't even provide an Oracle connection. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 13:48:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:48:00 -0400 Subject: JRE References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > I installed edgy a few days back and got the latest sun jre from the > repo's, which I thought was 1.6 . > When I run java --version, I get this: > java version "1.4.2" > gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu > 4.1.1-14ubuntu7) > > Did I miss something? Two things - you need to use update-alternatives to set it to use the sun jre rather than gij, and the latest version in _edgy_ is 1.5. You need to get the sun-java6-jre/sun-java6.bin from feisty if you want 1.6. -- derek From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 14:34:01 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:34:01 -0500 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... In-Reply-To: References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171636441.28760.51.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > No, there is no search line, my resolv.conf is: > domain orange.fr > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > > I don't know how to write a search line, is it like this? Yes, it's exactly like that. > > search orange.fr > > Cheers > Patrick > > John Dangler wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > >> > >> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: > >> > domain orange.fr > >> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > >> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > >> > > Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? > > here's my resolv.conf... > > nameserver 209.208.124.98 > > nameserver 209.208.124.99 > > search mgjventures.com atlantic.net > > nameserver 209.208.25.18 > > nameserver 209.208.42.132 > > > > It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, dist-upgrades through 3 > > different Ubuntu's ... > > > > hth > > John Dangler > > > >> I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager > >> Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it replaces the > >> DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. > >> > >> I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should > >> clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, but > >> actually per network of which there can be many, especially wireless > >> ones.) > >> > >> Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are gone > >> with the wind. :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Chanchao > >> > >> > > > From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 14:02:25 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:02:25 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: Message-ID: Patrick Gelin wrote: > Hi, > > I use the graphical interface or I write directly into /etc/resolv.conf, > the problem is the same. When I reboot the PC, the DNS I write > into /etc/resolv.conf is replaced by the address of the router and the > adress of a DNS. > > So, this is what I write into my /etc/resolv.conf: > domain orange.fr > nameserver 80.10.246.130 > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: > domain orange.fr > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > > My rooter is able to get DNS dynamically or not, it's the same problem! > What is the process writing into my /etc/resolv.conf file? DHCP always rewrites your resolv.conf unless you explicitly prevent it (usually in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf). However, if DHCP is providing these values they should be right. Remove the resolvconf package if you have it. It no longer serves a useful purpose that I can see, and also causes this sort of thing. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 14:09:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:09:33 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com><1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: Argg! Do you have a REPLY-TO address configured? I read via gmane news, and every time I respond to you, it pops up BOTH a knode window and a kmail window (obviously bad behaviour by knode, but why would I need to respond to both you and the list?) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 14:07:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:28 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com><1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <0eqga4-hc8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Patrick Gelin wrote: > Yes, you arre true. I'm using the DHCP, so it's the reason... But I can't > change that parameter, I have to use the DHCP configuration. But what I > have to test is to not get DNS dynamically by the rooter. May be it's the > reason the DHCP is slow... It shouldn't be - your DHCP should be faster using the router's cache than round-tripping to your ISP. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 16 14:03:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:03:39 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: Chanchao wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > >> And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: >> domain orange.fr >> nameserver 192.168.0.1 >> nameserver 80.10.246.3 > > I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager > Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it replaces the > DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. > > I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should > clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, but > actually per network of which there can be many, especially wireless > ones.) > > Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are gone > with the wind. :) As they _should_ be. DHCP always returns the _network's_ DNS settings. They're the ones you want. -- derek From cp at ccil.org Fri Feb 16 15:08:45 2007 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:08:45 -0500 Subject: Multiple resolutions don't work after edgy install Message-ID: This issue is important for Kathy since she has really bad eyesight and has gotten used to extra desktop space. I just installed edgy for my friend Kathy and now her multiple resolutions don't work. ie. Cntrl-Alt-+/- doesn't do anything. The X.org log shows it other validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" (II) NVIDIA(0): "1024x768" (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600" (II) NVIDIA(0): "640x480" (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 I tried using the same xorg.conf that worked for her breezy setup as well as the new one done by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. How do I fix this one? Thanks, Chuck From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 15:15:10 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:15:10 -0500 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... In-Reply-To: References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Message-ID: <1171638910.28760.59.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > Yes, you arre true. I'm using the DHCP, so it's the reason... But I can't > change that parameter, I have to use the DHCP configuration. But what I > have to test is to not get DNS dynamically by the rooter. May be it's the > reason the DHCP is slow... worst case scenario - put what you want in a resolv.conf.save file in the same directory (or whereever) and then write a quick bash script to replace resolv.conf with that file on a daily basis. Add the script to cron. > > Thank you for your help. > > Joris Dobbelsteen wrote: > > > Your DHCP server (which is probably part of your broadband router) > > assigns not only an IP address, but also the entire network > > configuration. > > So it also assign the dns servers. > > > > If you want a different configuration, you should probably change the > > settings in your broadband router. > > > > (Although I don't see any reason not to the router's integrated dns > > server, it does exactly that forwarding) > > > > - Joris > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > >>[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of > >>Patrick Gelin > >>Sent: vrijdag 16 februari 2007 11:29 > >>To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>Subject: Re: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... > >> > >>No, there is no search line, my resolv.conf is: > >>domain orange.fr > >>nameserver 192.168.0.1 > >>nameserver 80.10.246.3 > >> > >>I don't know how to write a search line, is it like this? > >> > >>search orange.fr > >> > >>Cheers > >>Patrick > >> > >>John Dangler wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:27 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:12 +0100, Patrick Gelin wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > And after a reboot, this is the resolv.conf file: > >>>> > domain orange.fr > >>>> > nameserver 192.168.0.1 > >>>> > nameserver 80.10.246.3 > >>>> > >>> Have you tried putting a "search" line in your resolv.conf? > >>> here's my resolv.conf... > >>> nameserver 209.208.124.98 > >>> nameserver 209.208.124.99 > >>> search mgjventures.com atlantic.net > >>> nameserver 209.208.25.18 > >>> nameserver 209.208.42.132 > >>> > >>> It hasn't changed in over a year, with reboots, > >>dist-upgrades through > >>> 3 different Ubuntu's ... > >>> > >>> hth > >>> John Dangler > >>> > >>>> I get the same thing when using wireless, and the Network Manager > >>>> Applet. Every time it connects to a wireless network it > >>replaces the > >>>> DNS with whatever the wireless router fed it. > >>>> > >>>> I find it strange that DNS seems a global setting, when it should > >>>> clearly be a setting PER network. (Not even per network interface, > >>>> but actually per network of which there can be many, especially > >>>> wireless > >>>> ones.) > >>>> > >>>> Like you step into a Starbucks shop and BAM!, your DNS settings are > >>>> gone with the wind. :) > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Chanchao > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>ubuntu-users mailing list > >>ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > >> > > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 15:17:50 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:17:50 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE In-Reply-To: <2c8763bb0702160351g3259f018mc2df316edd940725@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160351g3259f018mc2df316edd940725@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171639070.28760.62.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 05:51 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > You know what's funny; I tried the update-alternatives and found two > versions that I didn't want on my system (they were installed as > dependencies as I was testing out programs), deleted those and now > running java -version from anywhere just works! 8-) > > Doing tech support can help more than just other people it > seems ;) That's also a possibility. I'm trying to find a database modeling tool, as well as an application framework for my desktop box at the moment, so I've probably got some orphans out there as well... I seem to recall seeing some utility or other that would go through ubuntu and identify all of those, but I can't recall where I read it... (I should have grabbed it while I was reading about it) > > CK > > On 2/16/07, John Dangler wrote: > Thanks Conrad, Janne, and Tony! > I was missing the update-alternatives... > Now I have: > gymsmoke at croatus:~$ which java > /usr/bin/java > gymsmoke at croatus:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/java > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-02-10 03:15 /usr/bin/java > -> /etc/alternatives/java > gymsmoke at croatus :~$ java -version > java version "1.5.0_08" > Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build > 1.5.0_08-b03) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, > sharing) > > > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > > On 2/16/07, John Dangler wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the > responses you > > > listed... > > > > > > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin > installed, does > > > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? > > > > I can't fully test my hypothesis since I'm running Feisty, > but in > > Feisty using Java 6 the CLI command "java" isn't in a > standard place > > for the system to see it... so maybe you have *both* 1.5 and > 1.4 > > installed, but Java 5 doesn't have a "java" binary in the > right place? > > > > On my system, if I go to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin and > from > > Terminal run "./java -version", the output is: > > > > java version "1.6.0" > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) > > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, > sharing) > > > > Do you maybe have a similar directory with a "java" > executable? > > > > CK > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 15:22:16 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:22:16 -0500 Subject: Database modeler; Was: [RESOLVED] OopenGL In-Reply-To: <61pga4-5a8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> <200702152234.27209.email.listen@googlemail.com> <61pga4-5a8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <1171639336.28760.65.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 09:43 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: > > > On Thu, 15. February 2007 22:13:37 John Dangler wrote: > >> Thanks for the help! > >> I did have to turn off the composite to get the package > >> (mysql-gui-tools) to work. I must say, though, that I am very > >> disappointed with both mysql administrator and mysql workbench. > >> Workbench crashes if you sneeze, and admin doesn't backup databases > >> correctly. IMO - don't bother with them... > >> > >> I do need a decent modeler (open source) if anyone has any recommends. > >> dbdesigner4 has since quit, since that now became the alpha of > >> workbench. I'm going to take another look at DataArchitext > >> (TheKompany.com) . Their first offering was very tough to install, and > >> somewhat kludgy, but it did work well for developing the logical model. > >> If anyone knows of others, I'm all ears... > > [...] > > > > Is tora for oracle such a modeler tool you are looking for? > > http://tora.sourceforge.net/ > > I thought tora used to support mysql. I'm sure I originally got it from > Debian, which of course doesn't even provide an Oracle connection. > -- > derek I looked at this package. It looks decent, but I didn't notice a graphic E-R modeling component in it. Do you happen to know if this package includes this? I read a google article that said that they did support mySQL, so I'm hoping that is still the case. > > From carson.wilcox at verizon.net Fri Feb 16 15:26:42 2007 From: carson.wilcox at verizon.net (Carson Wilcox) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:26:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: mounting htfs file system Message-ID: <897059.12976.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a usb drive that is formatted as ntfs. When I mount it, it mounts as read only. What do I need to do to make this file system writable?? This is an actual hard drive not a memory stick and is 120 gigs. I'd like to use it for backups and I can't format it as ext3 because I also unfortunatly need to use it on windoze as well. 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TIA -- Richard Urwin From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 15:50:01 2007 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:50:01 +0100 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: <20070216160415.f7338680.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20070216160415.f7338680.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: On 2/16/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:04:02 +0100 > "Jeremy Thompson" wrote: > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > On the server, have you tried > > sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart ? > > ( I'm assuming that you are using the nfs kernel server ) Well, I'm running a FreeNAS server which is based on FreeBSD. I haven't had any problems with it, ever. All I've ever had to do when the ubuntu box has restarted and not mapped the drives is restart the server. However even when the ubuntu box couldn't see the NFS shares it could see the SMB shares. All my current windows boxes can see the shares, but ubunut can't. And SMB was one of the upgrades. I'm thinking that the services on my box weren't started, so I'm going to check that. If you can think of something I else I can try then thanks! JT Also if you run > > ps aux | grep nfsd you should see a first line like > > root 4758 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Feb13 0:00 [nfsd4] > > Followed by about 8 lines each ending in [nfsd] . > > If you run > > cat /etc/default/portmap > > do you see a line like > #OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1" ? > > That line should be commented out, as above, with a # , or portmap will > only listen on the loopback interface of the server machine. > > rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.100 ( substitute the IP of your NFS server) should > output quite a few lines including portmapper lines, nfs lines, nlockmgr, > mountd and status . > > Good info at > > http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/ > > HTH and all that ... > > Peter > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 16:04:19 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:04:19 +0100 Subject: Fail to execute a binary file from a CD... References: <219482c0702160128x61a0392y8b0cb86479475c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ok, I fixed the problem copying all the CD content file into my PC and take owner over all. Thank you for your help! Andy wrote: > On 16/02/07, Patrick Gelin wrote: >> gelinp at gelinp-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ sudo ./installUnix >> sudo: unable to execute ./installUnix: Permission denied >> >> What is the problem? > > CDs have user as an option in /etc/fstab. > user adds the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev for security. > You wouldn't want a user being ables to save an SUID binary on a > machine they had root access to and then running it on a PC they > didn't to elevate privileges. Similar reasoning applies to the nodev. > > If you trust every user you could edit /etc/fstab to allow execution. > (add ,exec after noauto) NOT recommended, for security reasons. > > Or you can mount the CD as root with different options. > try: umount /media/cdrom0 > mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 -t udf,iso9660 -o > exec,umask=0222,nosuid,nodev not 100% sure that command is right btw. > replace /dev/hdc with whatever device is your CD drive. > replace /media/cdrom0 with wherever your CD is mounted > (the umask allows all users to read and execute, if you don't want > that then omit that bit but you will need to run the file from the CD > as root, which is a bad idea). > > Or you could just copy the file, and everything else it needs to a > directory on your hard drive and chmod u+x filename > (a problem if its looking for files on the CD, but safer). > > If you are the only user on the machine then you might not need to be > so concerned about all users being able to execute stuff for option 2. > > Hope that helps > > Andy From patrick.gelin at free.fr Fri Feb 16 16:06:59 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:06:59 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10: Problem with DNS configuration... References: <1171618077.12035.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com><1171618973.28760.41.camel@croatus> <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF556F@nehemiah.joris2k.local> <0eqga4-hc8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: ok, I fixed the problem. It was a bad DHCP configuration into my rooter. I found the form to edit with good DNS values and I reboot it. Now it's ok! Thank you all very much. Derek Broughton wrote: > Patrick Gelin wrote: > >> Yes, you arre true. I'm using the DHCP, so it's the reason... But I can't >> change that parameter, I have to use the DHCP configuration. But what I >> have to test is to not get DNS dynamically by the rooter. May be it's the >> reason the DHCP is slow... > > It shouldn't be - your DHCP should be faster using the router's cache than > round-tripping to your ISP. From burner at suppressingfire.org Fri Feb 16 16:34:05 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:34:05 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171643646.15315.1.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 03:52 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Thanks Conrad, Janne, and Tony! > I was missing the update-alternatives... update-java-alternatives is a bit better, since it updates javac, javadoc, the mozilla plugin, ... Also, JDK1.6 is in edgy-backports, which can be enabled via the Software Sources administrative control panel. > Now I have: > gymsmoke at croatus:~$ which java > /usr/bin/java > gymsmoke at croatus:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/java > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-02-10 03:15 /usr/bin/java > -> /etc/alternatives/java > gymsmoke at croatus:~$ java -version > java version "1.5.0_08" > Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing) > > > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > > On 2/16/07, John Dangler wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I did mean 1.5 . But I don't see 1.5 in any of the responses you > > > listed... > > > > > > So, why, if I have the java 5 jre and the java 5 plugin installed, does > > > the java --version report 1.4.2 ? > > > > I can't fully test my hypothesis since I'm running Feisty, but in > > Feisty using Java 6 the CLI command "java" isn't in a standard place > > for the system to see it... so maybe you have *both* 1.5 and 1.4 > > installed, but Java 5 doesn't have a "java" binary in the right place? > > > > On my system, if I go to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin and from > > Terminal run "./java -version", the output is: > > > > java version "1.6.0" > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105) > > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing) > > > > Do you maybe have a similar directory with a "java" executable? > > > > CK > > > > -- Michael R. 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They're working pretty > > well but there are too many small problems which make it annoying. > > > So how do I get the normal Gnome session working again? > > I'm having the same problem. I forgot how I configured mine. I have > to get a terminal and run > > metacity --replace > > right now because my compiz windows are all grey. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 17:13:59 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:13:59 +0000 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE In-Reply-To: <1171639070.28760.62.camel@croatus> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160351g3259f018mc2df316edd940725@mail.gmail.com> <1171639070.28760.62.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D5E657.3080401@manchester.ac.uk> John, John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 05:51 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: >> You know what's funny; I tried the update-alternatives and found two >> versions that I didn't want on my system (they were installed as >> dependencies as I was testing out programs), deleted those and now >> running java -version from anywhere just works! 8-) >> >> Doing tech support can help more than just other people it >> seems ;) > That's also a possibility. I'm trying to find a database modeling tool, > as well as an application framework for my desktop box at the moment, so > I've probably got some orphans out there as well... > I seem to recall seeing some utility or other that would go through > ubuntu and identify all of those, but I can't recall where I read it... > (I should have grabbed it while I was reading about it) There is the deborphan command which you need to install (you do on Dapper at least). It's in a package called deborphan, believe it or not. Run the deborphan command and it will give you a list of packages which nothing else depends on. You can use that list to remove unwanted packages. I would check the list first, as it apparently is not completely accurate. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Fri Feb 16 17:34:24 2007 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:34:24 -0800 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> ac wrote: > John Dangler wrote: >> I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... >> It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. >> Anyone have any other info regarding this? > > I recall that they withdrew some/all code for a thorough review of > any (copyright infringement?) issues I think. So work may be > ongoing, maybe, but there was a significant holdup. I've looked at it several times in the last year. It's not even to an Alpha stage IMO. Still very much a laboratory project. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From burner at suppressingfire.org Fri Feb 16 17:40:39 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:40:39 -0500 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz In-Reply-To: References: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> <4e8cc6b10702160613o74a70fd7x53477e5288cf9ddf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171647640.15315.24.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 11:57 -0500, Evan wrote: > i had the same problem. try this from the command line: > > * the below command will show you what starts automatically: > > ls /home/username/.config/autostart > > ** if beryl-manager is there delete it with the following command: > > sudo rm /home/username/.config/autostart/filename > > *** I had the same issue with beryl because it was crashing my box and > also loading automatically on startup. > You can also check out the "Sesssions" Preferences panel. It's got a startup tab with all the apps that are being started, both from your home directory and by the system. > On 2/16/07, Samuel Thurston, III wrote: > > On 2/16/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > > > I installed Compiz and GL Desktop for a look. They're working pretty > > > well but there are too many small problems which make it annoying. > > > > > So how do I get the normal Gnome session working again? > > > > I'm having the same problem. I forgot how I configured mine. I have > > to get a terminal and run > > > > metacity --replace > > > > right now because my compiz windows are all grey. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's in a package called deborphan, believe it or not. > > Run the deborphan command and it will give you a list of packages which > nothing else depends on. You can use that list to remove unwanted packages. > > I would check the list first, as it apparently is not completely accurate. Also see gtkorphan. > Regards, > Tony. > -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd like to use it for backups and I can't format it as ext3 because I also unfortunatly need to use it on windoze as well. The entry in my fstab is: /dev/sda1 /media/usd1 ntfs noauto,user 0 0 Thanks for any help on this. Carson carson.wilcox at verzion.net -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lemsx1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 18:04:18 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:04:18 -0500 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? $> host server That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: $> showmout -e server And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is serving. If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables -nL). You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from Windows. On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > Hello all, > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a week. Now I > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on my > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > #NFS Share Mounts > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network browser > either. > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes ago. > > Thank you. > > JT > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 16 18:07:47 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:07:47 -0600 Subject: mounting htfs file system In-Reply-To: <435685.41181.qm@web84112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <435685.41181.qm@web84112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45D5F2F3.2070105@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carson Wilcox wrote: > Ok, I found that ntfs and linux are not completely compatable. > SO I'll repartion the drive to have an ntfs partition and a fat32 partion. That leaves the question of how do I tell fstab to look for the fat32 partition and not the ntfs partition or to look for both????? I think setting it to "auto" is fine. That's what I have, here on portable media... The NTFS thing is just propriety; it's been RO for years, though I hear things about an effort to make it writable. 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Head wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 17:13 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: >> John, >> There is the deborphan command which you need to install (you do on >> Dapper at least). It's in a package called deborphan, believe it or not. >> >> Run the deborphan command and it will give you a list of packages which >> nothing else depends on. You can use that list to remove unwanted packages. >> >> I would check the list first, as it apparently is not completely accurate. > > Also see gtkorphan. I had forgotten about that. Presumably it's a GUI to deborphan. I'm afraid I'm still a keen fan of the command line! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 18:38:51 2007 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:38:51 +0100 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the replies.. On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? > > $> host server jeremy at Main:/etc$ host server server.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.41 Host server.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) So I would guess I can't resolve the server. I don't know if I couldn't do this before hand... That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: > > $> showmout -e server > > And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is serving. > > If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either > /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables > -nL). jeremy at Main:/etc$ sudo iptables -nL Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Here's the other command. jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat resolv.conf nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 domain MSHOME Is there some service I should see as running? Here's the output of hosts, I added the 192.168.1.3 to it after it didn't resolve. It still doesn't. jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost Main 127.0.1.1 Main 192.168.1.3 server # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts Thanks again JT You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from Windows. > > On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson > wrote: > > Hello all, > > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a week. Now > I > > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on my > > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > # > > # > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > > /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro > 0 1 > > /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0 > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > #NFS Share Mounts > > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network > browser > > either. > > > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes ago. > > > > Thank you. > > > > JT > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ----)(----- > Luis Mondesi > *NIX Guru > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 18:44:14 2007 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:44:14 +0100 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting update - jeremy at Main:/etc$ host Main Main.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 Host Main.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) jeremy at Main:/etc$ host localhost localhost.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 ;; reply from unexpected source: 208.67.220.220#53, expected 208.67.222.222#53 ;; Warning: ID mismatch: expected ID 54541, got 27575 Host localhost.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Do I have a DNS problem? JT On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for the replies.. > > On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > > > Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? > > > > $> host server > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host server > server.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.41 > Host server.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > So I would guess I can't resolve the server. I don't know if I couldn't > do this before hand... > > > That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: > > > > $> showmout -e server > > > > And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is > > serving. > > > > If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either > > /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables > > -nL). > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ sudo iptables -nL > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Here's the other command. > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat resolv.conf > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > domain MSHOME > > Is there some service I should see as running? Here's the output of > hosts, I added the 192.168.1.3 to it after it didn't resolve. It still > doesn't. > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost Main > 127.0.1.1 Main > 192.168.1.3 server > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > fe00::0 ip6-localnet > ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix > ff02::1 ip6-allnodes > ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > ff02::3 ip6-allhosts > > Thanks again > > JT > > You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from Windows. > > > > On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson > > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a > > week. Now I > > > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on my > > > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > > > > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > # > > > # > > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > > > /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro > > 0 1 > > > /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0 > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > #NFS Share Mounts > > > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > > > > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network > > browser > > > either. > > > > > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes > > ago. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > JT > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----)(----- > > Luis Mondesi > > *NIX Guru > > > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la > > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > > |_|0|_| > > |_|_|0| > > |0|0|0| > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Feb 16 18:48:45 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:48:45 +0100 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <004801c751fb$186bd630$0600000a@gigmce> I tried to install under win, win, win doh..... virtual machine. But it stalled on the open sequence> I may not have done it justice being in a virtual machine under wihd, win oh you know. HTH From norman at littletank.org Fri Feb 16 18:57:55 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:57:55 +0000 Subject: viewing Message-ID: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> I would like to be able to view the videos which I believe originate in NASA. Could someone please advise on how this may be accomplished. Here is a link:- http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1471&Itemid=1 Norman From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Fri Feb 16 18:59:42 2007 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:59:42 +0100 Subject: Online surveys / questionaires Message-ID: <45D5FF1E.9050501@uni-graz.at> Hi, can anybody recommend a good web-based solution for doing online surveys/questionaires? Many thanks in advance Dieter From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Fri Feb 16 19:03:19 2007 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:03:19 +0100 Subject: viewing In-Reply-To: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> References: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45D5FFF7.6070307@uni-graz.at> norman wrote: > I would like to be able to view the videos which I believe originate in > NASA. Could someone please advise on how this may be accomplished. Here > is a link:- > http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1471&Itemid=1 sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer w32codecs You probably have to enable the multiverse/universe repositories in synaptic package manager. Best Dieter From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Feb 16 19:04:45 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:04:45 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE In-Reply-To: <45D5F899.5050500@manchester.ac.uk> References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160351g3259f018mc2df316edd940725@mail.gmail.com> <1171639070.28760.62.camel@croatus> <45D5E657.3080401@manchester.ac.uk> <1171647849.15315.27.camel@localhost> <45D5F899.5050500@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1171652685.28760.74.camel@croatus> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:31 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > Michael, > > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 17:13 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > >> John, > >> There is the deborphan command which you need to install (you do on > >> Dapper at least). It's in a package called deborphan, believe it or not. > >> > >> Run the deborphan command and it will give you a list of packages which > >> nothing else depends on. You can use that list to remove unwanted packages. > >> > >> I would check the list first, as it apparently is not completely accurate. > > > > Also see gtkorphan. > > I had forgotten about that. Presumably it's a GUI to deborphan. I'm > afraid I'm still a keen fan of the command line! With the state of some of the tools I've been seeing lately, I too am remaining a fan of the command line... > > Regards, > Tony. > -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > From michaelrpg at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 19:05:45 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:05:45 -0500 Subject: viewing In-Reply-To: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> References: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702161105i35d1bc54l50204afe4e58f611@mail.gmail.com> The vidoes are in windows format (ie. .wmv). You will need the proper codec to view the video. Additionally, if you want to view the video in your web browser, you will need the proper plugin. http://ubuntuguide.org/ has information on doing this I believe. On 2/16/07, norman wrote: > > I would like to be able to view the videos which I believe originate in > NASA. Could someone please advise on how this may be accomplished. Here > is a link:- > > http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1471&Itemid=1 > > Norman > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stude.list at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 19:13:00 2007 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:13:00 +0000 Subject: viewing In-Reply-To: <45D5FFF7.6070307@uni-graz.at> References: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> <45D5FFF7.6070307@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <219482c0702161113q5c80ccc3w9bd694a635e5ae3c@mail.gmail.com> On 16/02/07, Dieter Schicker wrote: > sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer w32codecs Are you sure w32codecs is in the repros? Try reading: And for more information on codecs in general: (if you are using Feisty its probably simpler, but Feisty is still under development). You may also wish to complain about them using non-free formats. > You probably have to enable the multiverse/universe repositories in > synaptic package manager. You do. Non-free stuff goes in Multiverse, note by non-free I am referring to freedoms, you still don't have to hand over any cash. Andy From atheoi at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 19:24:17 2007 From: atheoi at gmail.com (Conrad Knauer) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:24:17 -0600 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <2c8763bb0702161124l5459e78dtba14f96b0f3f242b@mail.gmail.com> (partly piggybacking since I joined the ML recently) On 2/16/07, sdavmor wrote: > ac wrote: > > John Dangler wrote: > >> I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... > >> It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. > >> Anyone have any other info regarding this? > > > > I recall that they withdrew some/all code for a thorough review of > > any (copyright infringement?) issues I think. So work may be > > ongoing, maybe, but there was a significant holdup. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS The code audit is now "96.5% complete"; development on code that has been cleared is proceeding while code that is has not is still "locked". > I've looked at it several times in the last year. It's not even to an > Alpha stage IMO. Still very much a laboratory project. I tried it recently and its not very usable yet, but its one of those things that deserves a periodic look (if running Windows apps is your thing ;) CK From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 16 19:29:43 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:29:43 -0500 Subject: mounting htfs file system In-Reply-To: <897059.12976.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <897059.12976.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45D60627.40806@gatech.edu> Carson Wilcox wrote: > I have a usb drive that is formatted as ntfs. When I mount it, it mounts as read only. > What do I need to do to make this file system writable?? > > This is an actual hard drive not a memory stick and is 120 gigs. I'd like to use it for backups and I can't format it as ext3 because I also unfortunatly need to use it on windoze as well. > > The entry in my fstab is: > /dev/sda1 /media/usd1 ntfs noauto,user 0 0 When you parititon it, you'll have two partitions /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, I think. Then, one can mounted ntfs and the other fat32. See http://tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's in a package called deborphan, believe it or not. > > > > Run the deborphan command and it will give you a list of packages which > > nothing else depends on. You can use that list to remove unwanted packages. > > > > I would check the list first, as it apparently is not completely accurate. > > Also see gtkorphan. If you install deborphan (one of grkorphan's dependencies BTW :), that functionality becomes available to Synaptic as well (my preferred method for using it), you just need to create a new filter (Settings -> Filters) that checks for them. CK From norman at littletank.org Fri Feb 16 19:36:04 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:36:04 +0000 Subject: viewing In-Reply-To: <219482c0702161113q5c80ccc3w9bd694a635e5ae3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> <45D5FFF7.6070307@uni-graz.at> <219482c0702161113q5c80ccc3w9bd694a635e5ae3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171654564.4751.11.camel@localhost> < snip > > Try reading: > > And for more information on codecs in general: > Thanks to all of you who have replied, I am now much wiser. > You may also wish to complain about them using non-free formats. That's a good idea, I will do that. > > You probably have to enable the multiverse/universe repositories in > > synaptic package manager. > > You do. Non-free stuff goes in Multiverse, note by non-free I am > referring to freedoms, you still don't have to hand over any cash. Thanks again. Norman From lemsx1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 19:43:03 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:43:03 -0500 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: host is a command that queries your DNS entries... that's fine. doing: ping server should point to the private IP for "server" (192.x.x.x), the one in your /etc/hosts you should be able to do: showmount -e server On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > Interesting update - > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host Main > Main.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > Host Main.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host localhost > localhost.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > ;; reply from unexpected source: 208.67.220.220#53, expected > 208.67.222.222#53 > ;; Warning: ID mismatch: expected ID 54541, got 27575 > Host localhost.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > Do I have a DNS problem? > > JT > > > > On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson < > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the replies.. > > > > > > On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > > Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? > > > > > > $> host server > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host server > > server.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.41 > > Host server.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > So I would guess I can't resolve the server. I don't know if I couldn't > do this before hand... > > > > > > > That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: > > > > > > $> showmout -e server > > > > > > And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is > serving. > > > > > > If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either > > > /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables > > > -nL). > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ sudo iptables -nL > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > target prot opt source destination > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > > target prot opt source destination > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > target prot opt source destination > > > > Here's the other command. > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat resolv.conf > > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > > domain MSHOME > > > > Is there some service I should see as running? Here's the output of > hosts, I added the 192.168.1.3 to it after it didn't resolve. It still > doesn't. > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat hosts > > 127.0.0.1 localhost Main > > 127.0.1.1 Main > > 192.168.1.3 server > > > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > > fe00::0 ip6-localnet > > ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix > > ff02::1 ip6-allnodes > > ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > > ff02::3 ip6-allhosts > > > > Thanks again > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from > Windows. > > > > > > On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson < > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a week. > Now I > > > > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on my > > > > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > > > > > > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > > # > > > > # > > > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > > > > /dev/sda2 / ext3 > defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > > > /dev/sda5 none swap sw > 0 0 > > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > > > #NFS Share Mounts > > > > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > > > > > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > > > > > > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network > browser > > > > either. > > > > > > > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes > ago. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----)(----- > > > Luis Mondesi > > > *NIX Guru > > > > > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > > > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la > > > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > > > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > > > |_|0|_| > > > |_|_|0| > > > |0|0|0| > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From carson.wilcox at verizon.net Fri Feb 16 19:43:25 2007 From: carson.wilcox at verizon.net (Carson Wilcox) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:43:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: mounting htfs file system Message-ID: <149395.95185.qm@web84112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thanks, I'll take a look at that in a couple of minutes ----- Original Message ---- From: Matthew Flaschen To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:29:43 PM Subject: Re: mounting htfs file system Carson Wilcox wrote: > I have a usb drive that is formatted as ntfs. When I mount it, it mounts as read only. > What do I need to do to make this file system writable?? > > This is an actual hard drive not a memory stick and is 120 gigs. I'd like to use it for backups and I can't format it as ext3 because I also unfortunatly need to use it on windoze as well. > > The entry in my fstab is: > /dev/sda1 /media/usd1 ntfs noauto,user 0 0 When you parititon it, you'll have two partitions /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, I think. Then, one can mounted ntfs and the other fat32. See http://tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html Matthew Flaschen -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carson.wilcox at verizon.net Fri Feb 16 19:48:49 2007 From: carson.wilcox at verizon.net (Carson Wilcox) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: mounting htfs file system Message-ID: <195561.84415.qm@web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks again, I now have access to the fat32 partition, I'll try for the ntfs partition tonight, but that one isn't all that important. Carson ----- Original Message ---- From: Matthew Flaschen To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:29:43 PM Subject: Re: mounting htfs file system Carson Wilcox wrote: > I have a usb drive that is formatted as ntfs. When I mount it, it mounts as read only. > What do I need to do to make this file system writable?? > > This is an actual hard drive not a memory stick and is 120 gigs. I'd like to use it for backups and I can't format it as ext3 because I also unfortunatly need to use it on windoze as well. > > The entry in my fstab is: > /dev/sda1 /media/usd1 ntfs noauto,user 0 0 When you parititon it, you'll have two partitions /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, I think. Then, one can mounted ntfs and the other fat32. See http://tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html Matthew Flaschen -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Still very much a laboratory project. Certainly true, but that's basically how the Linux kernel started after all. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From atheoi at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 20:10:28 2007 From: atheoi at gmail.com (Conrad Knauer) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:10:28 -0600 Subject: viewing In-Reply-To: <219482c0702161113q5c80ccc3w9bd694a635e5ae3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171652275.4751.5.camel@localhost> <45D5FFF7.6070307@uni-graz.at> <219482c0702161113q5c80ccc3w9bd694a635e5ae3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c8763bb0702161210q7af7d126x48b90aac19d51ebf@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/07, Andy wrote: > > sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer w32codecs > > Are you sure w32codecs is in the repros? For w32codecs and libdvdcss2, I use the Medibuntu repository (http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ it was formerly called the PLF). See http://members.shaw.ca/Limulus/ubuntu.html for some installation details (click on the appropriate release-specific notes link) CK From burner at suppressingfire.org Fri Feb 16 20:13:52 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:13:52 -0500 Subject: Online surveys / questionaires In-Reply-To: <45D5FF1E.9050501@uni-graz.at> References: <45D5FF1E.9050501@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <1171656832.24692.8.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 19:59 +0100, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi, > > can anybody recommend a good web-based solution for doing online > surveys/questionaires? Isn't surveymonkey.com the standard spot for these things? That's the site I usually see people hosting their surveys at. Warning, the free account limits you to 10 questions and 100 respondents. I'm sure google can find more like http://www.go2poll.com/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=survey+web+free mike > Many thanks in advance > Dieter > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 20:29:01 2007 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:29:01 +0100 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > host is a command that queries your DNS entries... that's fine. > > doing: > > ping server It's a pinging so that's good. should point to the private IP for "server" (192.x.x.x), the one in > your /etc/hosts > > > you should be able to do: > > showmount -e server jeremy at Main:~$ showmount -e server Export list for server: /mnt/Backup 192.168.1.0 /mnt/Music 192.168.1.0 /mnt/Videos 192.168.1.0 and sudo mount -a worked. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I can't live without my music and it's on the network share. Now.. why would this have happened? I didn't change anything in hosts before the update. Did the update do something? I need to learn from this, and it's very puzzling right now. On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > > Interesting update - > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host Main > > Main.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > > Host Main.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host localhost > > localhost.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > > ;; reply from unexpected source: 208.67.220.220#53, expected > > 208.67.222.222#53 > > ;; Warning: ID mismatch: expected ID 54541, got 27575 > > Host localhost.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > Do I have a DNS problem? > > > > JT > > > > > > > > On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson < > > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the replies.. > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > > > Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? > > > > > > > > $> host server > > > > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host server > > > server.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.41 > > > Host server.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > > > So I would guess I can't resolve the server. I don't know if I > couldn't > > do this before hand... > > > > > > > > > > That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: > > > > > > > > $> showmout -e server > > > > > > > > And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is > > serving. > > > > > > > > If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either > > > > /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables > > > > -nL). > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ sudo iptables -nL > > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > Here's the other command. > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat resolv.conf > > > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > > > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > > > domain MSHOME > > > > > > Is there some service I should see as running? Here's the output of > > hosts, I added the 192.168.1.3 to it after it didn't resolve. It still > > doesn't. > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat hosts > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost Main > > > 127.0.1.1 Main > > > 192.168.1.3 server > > > > > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > > > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > > > fe00::0 ip6-localnet > > > ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix > > > ff02::1 ip6-allnodes > > > ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > > > ff02::3 ip6-allhosts > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from > > Windows. > > > > > > > > On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson < > > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a week. > > Now I > > > > > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on > my > > > > > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > > > > > > > > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > > > # > > > > > # > > > > > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > > > > > /dev/sda2 / ext3 > > defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > > > > /dev/sda5 none swap sw > > 0 0 > > > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto > 0 0 > > > > > > > > > > #NFS Share Mounts > > > > > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > > > > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > > > > > > > > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network > > browser > > > > > either. > > > > > > > > > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes > > ago. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----)(----- > > > > Luis Mondesi > > > > *NIX Guru > > > > > > > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > > > > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener > la > > > > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > > > > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > > > > |_|0|_| > > > > |_|_|0| > > > > |0|0|0| > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ----)(----- > Luis Mondesi > *NIX Guru > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Again, Thank you all a ton. JT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dee at akwireless.net Fri Feb 16 23:12:43 2007 From: dee at akwireless.net (W.D.McKinney) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:12:43 -0900 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?How_to_add_TTF_font_files_to_6=2E10_=3F?= Message-ID: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files to this workstation? -Dee From michaelrpg at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 23:11:37 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:11:37 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> Have a look at this link. The first little grey box just do the trick. On 2/16/07, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a > "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files to > this workstation? > > -Dee > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dee at akwireless.net Fri Feb 16 23:26:25 2007 From: dee at akwireless.net (W.D.McKinney) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:26:25 -0900 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_How_to_add_TTF_font_files_to_6=2E10_=3F?= In-Reply-To: 2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: <20070216232625.742fec39@ribeye.akwireless.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Gustafson [mailto:michaelrpg at gmail.com] To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com] Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:11:37 -0900 Subject: Re: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? > Have a look at this > link. > The first little grey box just do the trick. > Bulls eye, many thanks. -Dee > On 2/16/07, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > > > I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a > > "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files > to > > this workstation? > > > > -Dee > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 16 23:23:02 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:23:02 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D63CD6.8050304@gatech.edu> Michael Gustafson wrote: > Have a look at this > link. > The first little grey box just do the trick. > > On 2/16/07, W.D.McKinney wrote: >> >> I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I >> have a >> "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf >> files to >> this workstation? >> >> -Dee >> >> -- >> ubuntu-users mailing list >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> > Even easier. Just open up the psuedo-url: fonts:///System/ and drag the fonts in. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From marcumbill at bellsouth.net Sat Feb 17 02:00:15 2007 From: marcumbill at bellsouth.net (Bill Marcum) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:00:15 -0500 Subject: adsl modems References: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:27:47 +0000, john beecham wrote: > --===============0554263538== > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > View form a "just started" > UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch > Page 3 - 'make a bootscript' > > 1. Mixed up the '1' and the l (L) > > 2. In the 'do' sequence is 'tab' used for the indent ? > In most circumstances in a shell script, either tab or spaces can be used. > 3. What is 'fi' 'fi' marks the end of an 'if ... ;then ... ;[else...;] fi' command. > Sleep 1 > > 4. Have now lost file S95dial (deleted) > If /etc/init.d/dial exists, you can do ln -s /etc/init.d/dial /etc/rc2.d/S95dial -- Why do they call it baby-SITTING when all you do is run after them? From carson.wilcox at verizon.net Sat Feb 17 02:50:55 2007 From: carson.wilcox at verizon.net (Carson Wilcox) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:50:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: mounting htfs file system Message-ID: <821019.16431.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> everything is working great, thanks. Carson ----- Original Message ---- From: Matthew Flaschen To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:54:18 PM Subject: Re: mounting htfs file system Carson Wilcox wrote: > Thanks again, I now have access to the fat32 partition, I'll try for the ntfs partition tonight, but that one isn't all that important. Great. You should definitely be able to get the ntfs (read-only). I had just such a setup for a while, except my linux partition was also on the same drive! Matthew Flaschen -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lemsx1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 02:56:31 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:56:31 -0500 Subject: After Dapper Update NFS/SMB don't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: are you running some caching daemon? like nscd? $> ps ax | grep nscd reloading this daemon makes things be "refreshed" in memory. $> sudo /etc/init.d/nscd reload Outside of that, your guess is just as good as mine. On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > > > On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > host is a command that queries your DNS entries... that's fine. > > > > doing: > > > > ping server > > It's a pinging so that's good. > > should point to the private IP for "server" (192.x.x.x), the one in > > your /etc/hosts > > > > > > you should be able to do: > > > > showmount -e server > > > jeremy at Main:~$ showmount -e server > Export list for server: > /mnt/Backup 192.168.1.0 > /mnt/Music 192.168.1.0 > /mnt/Videos 192.168.1.0 > > and sudo mount -a worked. > > THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I can't live without my music and it's on the > network share. > > Now.. why would this have happened? I didn't change anything in hosts > before the update. Did the update do something? I need to learn from this, > and it's very puzzling right now. > > > On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson < > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Interesting update - > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host Main > > > Main.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > > > Host Main.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host localhost > > > localhost.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.40 > > > ;; reply from unexpected source: 208.67.220.220#53, expected > > > 208.67.222.222#53 > > > ;; Warning: ID mismatch: expected ID 54541, got 27575 > > > Host localhost.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > > > Do I have a DNS problem? > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/07, Jeremy Thompson < > > > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the replies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/07, Luis wrote: > > > > > Are you sure that you can resolve "server"? > > > > > > > > > > $> host server > > > > > > > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ host server > > > > server.MSHOME has address 208.67.219.41 > > > > Host server.MSHOME not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > > > > > So I would guess I can't resolve the server. I don't know if I > couldn't > > > do this before hand... > > > > > > > > > > > > > That should give you the IP of "server". If that works, then try: > > > > > > > > > > $> showmout -e server > > > > > > > > > > And that should give you a list of all the shares that server is > > > serving. > > > > > > > > > > If any of those two commands don't work, then your problem is either > > > > > /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf and/or firewall issues (hint: iptables > > > > > -nL). > > > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ sudo iptables -nL > > > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > > > target prot opt source destination > > > > > > > > Here's the other command. > > > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat resolv.conf > > > > nameserver 208.67.222.222 > > > > nameserver 208.67.220.220 > > > > domain MSHOME > > > > > > > > Is there some service I should see as running? Here's the output of > > > hosts, I added the 192.168.1.3 to it after it didn't resolve. It still > > > doesn't. > > > > > > > > jeremy at Main:/etc$ cat hosts > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost Main > > > > 127.0.1.1 Main > > > > 192.168.1.3 server > > > > > > > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > > > > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > > > > fe00::0 ip6-localnet > > > > ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix > > > > ff02::1 ip6-allnodes > > > > ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > > > > ff02::3 ip6-allhosts > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't need to do anything on server, since it works fine from > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/15/07, Jeremy Thompson < > > > jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I finally did the update to Dapper that's been there for a week. > > > Now I > > > > > > can't see my FreeNAS Server with SMB/NFS. I can still reach it on > my > > > > > > windows boxes with SMB. My fstab file, which didn't change is - > > > > > > > > > > > > /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > > > > # > > > > > > # > > > > > > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > > > > > > /dev/sda2 / ext3 > > > defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > > > > > /dev/sda5 none swap sw > > > 0 0 > > > > > > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 > 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > #NFS Share Mounts > > > > > > server:/mnt/Music /media/music nfs > > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > server:/mnt/Backup /media/backup nfs > > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > server:/mnt/Videos /media/videos nfs > > > > > > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I issues the 'sudo mount -a' command and I get > > > > > > > > > > > > mount to NFS server 'server' failed: server is down > > > > > > > > > > > > The server isn't down. None of the folder will come up in network > > > browser > > > > > > either. > > > > > > > > > > > > Need some help, everything worked fine before I updated 20 minutes > > > ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ----)(----- > > > > > Luis Mondesi > > > > > *NIX Guru > > > > > > > > > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > > > > > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener > la > > > > > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > > > > > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > > > > > |_|0|_| > > > > > |_|_|0| > > > > > |0|0|0| > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----)(----- > > Luis Mondesi > > *NIX Guru > > > > "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue > > discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la > > plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro > > mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). > > |_|0|_| > > |_|_|0| > > |0|0|0| > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > Again, Thank you all a ton. > > JT > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 04:03:23 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:23 +0800 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still Message-ID: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> As I've posted twice or thrice before, I've got a video problem under Edgy. Files -- MPEG4-encoded -- that worked fine under Dapper (after installing every codec available to mankind) have stopped working under Edgy (after installing every codec available to mankind). First the problem was that none of the video apps (VLC wasn't tested at this time) worked, with Totem(Gstreamer) and Xine both complaining about the files being encoded in DivX5 format which they didn't know how to manage. After doing a lot of digging I found a DivX6 codec, installed it and tried again. Now Totem(Gstreamer) and Xine both complain that the same files are in XviD format -- which they both purport don't know how to manage. Mplayer, too fails with far more cryptic error reports that boil down to "can't figure out the codec". Now here's the problem: Xvid support *IS* installed: $ aptitude search xvid p avifile-xvid-plugin - XviD video encoding plugin for libavifile p gstreamer0.8-xvid - XVID encoder plugin for GStreamer v libxvidcore - v libxvidcore-dev - i libxvidcore4 - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library p libxvidcore4-dev - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library -- de id xvid4conf - creates XviD configuration files i xvidtune - X client - xvidtune $ aptitude show libxvidcore4 Package: libxvidcore4 State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 2:1.1.0-final-0.1ubuntu1 Priority: optional Section: multiverse/libs Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Media Team Uncompressed Size: 725k Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) Provides: libxvidcore Description: High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library XviD is a high quality/performance ISO MPEG4 codec. Now I'm not completely stuck. VLC plays these files like a pro. Unfortunately I'm just really not happy with VLC's controls nor look. So I'd like to get these MPEG-4 AVIs working for Totem and/or Xine. What's the next step? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 17 05:46:48 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:46:48 -0800 Subject: Multiple resolutions don't work after edgy install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 02/16/2007 07:08 AM who is this? ը, Chuck Peters wrote: > This issue is important for Kathy since she has really bad eyesight > and has gotten used to extra desktop space. > I just installed edgy for my friend Kathy and now her multiple > resolutions don't work. ie. Cntrl-Alt-+/- doesn't do anything. The > X.org log shows it other validated modes: > (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: > (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" > (II) NVIDIA(0): "1024x768" > (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600" > (II) NVIDIA(0): "640x480" > (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 > > I tried using the same xorg.conf that worked for her breezy setup as > well as the new one done by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. How do I > fix this one? > > > Thanks, > Chuck > This may sound a little basic, but can you change resolutions from the GUI (System|Preferences|Screen Resolution)? I ask because Ctl_Alt_+/- probably won't work if you can't change resolutions from there. If you _cannot_ change from the GUI; you might want to get the H/V sync for your particular monitor and manually put it in the xorg.conf file. Example: Section "Monitor" Identifier "CM641" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 31-95 <== manually inserted by me VertRefresh 50-130 <== manually inserted by me EndSection If you don't know what the proper settings are, try Google'ing for your particular monitor (linux +monitorname). You'd be looking for a list something like this: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/2mardu] If you can change in the GUI already then I don't know what else to suggest. Ctl_Alt_+/- works just fine on all my Dapper systems. From ekrack at sigecom.net Sat Feb 17 07:43:29 2007 From: ekrack at sigecom.net (Edward Krack) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:43:29 -0600 Subject: Apache2 - mod_security Message-ID: <1171698209.6467.25.camel@localhost> Anyone: Trying to block worms/virus/whatever. Ubuntu-6.10 Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) Server mod_security installed Everything is Default My access.logs are showing these. "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 272 "-" "-" "SEARCH /\x90\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\ \x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\ 414 330 "-" "-" "POST /_vti_bin/_vti_aut/fp30reg.dll HTTP/1.1" 404 306 "-" "-" I've been trying to figure out HOW-TO enable mod_security in /etc/apache2/mods-available/mod-security.load to Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf And what rule would I use to BLOCK the repeating SEARCH and POST? Also, which is better? Adding the INFECTED MACHINE to hosts.deny? apache2 : IPADDRESS : DENY or iptables? iptables -I INPUT -i eth0 -s IPADDRESS -j DROP I'm doing both. Can I change the URI (less than 8190)? Edward Krack From lemsx1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 08:31:14 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:31:14 -0500 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still In-Reply-To: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: It strikes me as odd that installing totem-xine (or any -xine based app for this matter) and w32codecs, would not fix your issue. I'd say try to downgrade to the w32codecs package you had before. The one that people use on Dapper. It could also be something particular about your system. I'd not mind trying a sample video file from you if you put it in a place where it can be downloaded. Say a sample 1 MB or so file that you tested locally and it didn't work correctly on anything other than VLC. These days I'm happy with using only totem-xine. I still keep VLC around just in case you ever need it. On 2/16/07, Michael T. Richter wrote: > > As I've posted twice or thrice before, I've got a video problem under Edgy. > Files -- MPEG4-encoded -- that worked fine under Dapper (after installing > every codec available to mankind) have stopped working under Edgy (after > installing every codec available to mankind). First the problem was that > none of the video apps (VLC wasn't tested at this time) worked, with > Totem(Gstreamer) and Xine both complaining about the files being encoded in > DivX5 format which they didn't know how to manage. After doing a lot of > digging I found a DivX6 codec, installed it and tried again. Now > Totem(Gstreamer) and Xine both complain that the same files are in XviD > format -- which they both purport don't know how to manage. Mplayer, too > fails with far more cryptic error reports that boil down to "can't figure > out the codec". > > Now here's the problem: Xvid support *IS* installed: > > $ aptitude search xvid > p avifile-xvid-plugin - XviD video encoding plugin for > libavifile > p gstreamer0.8-xvid - XVID encoder plugin for GStreamer > > v libxvidcore - > > v libxvidcore-dev - > > i libxvidcore4 - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library > > p libxvidcore4-dev - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library > -- de > id xvid4conf - creates XviD configuration files > > i xvidtune - X client - xvidtune > > > $ aptitude show libxvidcore4 > Package: libxvidcore4 > State: installed > Automatically installed: no > Version: 2:1.1.0-final-0.1ubuntu1 > Priority: optional > Section: multiverse/libs > Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Media Team > Uncompressed Size: 725k > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) > Provides: libxvidcore > Description: High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library > XviD is a high quality/performance ISO MPEG4 codec. > > Now I'm not completely stuck. VLC plays these files like a pro. > Unfortunately I'm just really not happy with VLC's controls nor look. So > I'd like to get these MPEG-4 AVIs working for Totem and/or Xine. > > What's the next step? > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From marius at pov.lt Sat Feb 17 09:32:55 2007 From: marius at pov.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:32:55 +0200 Subject: ddebs for edgy-updates? Message-ID: <20070217093255.GA15093@fridge.pov.lt> To get useful stack traces out of crashes, one needs debug symbols. The -dbgsym packages from deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs edgy main universe are very useful. However they only match package versions in edgy itself. If I have a package from edgy-security, edgy-updates or edgy-backports, I cannot install the corresponding -dbgsym package. Is there a solution? Marius Gedminas -- SamB: PHP's basic control structure is the "database timeout error". -- from Twisted.Quotes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It'll take time. Edward Krack From derekmailbox at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 12:03:20 2007 From: derekmailbox at gmail.com (Derek) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:03:20 +0100 Subject: F-spot and portrait oriented photos. Message-ID: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> Anyone who knows why F-spot is not importing/displaying the portrait oriented photos? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Feb 17 12:48:19 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:48:19 -0500 Subject: vnc access Message-ID: <200702170748.20025.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm still having problems using a vnc client from behind a corporate to access my home boxes. My vnc server is running OK and I can access it using java when I'm at home connecting to either my LANs private IP or externally thru the public IP and port 5800. When I try to do this from work, I get a time out. Any ideas how to get through? I don't need/want anything that is too complex since my objective is just to do occasional trouble shooting or grab a file. Paul From cyphase at cyphase.com Sat Feb 17 13:24:34 2007 From: cyphase at cyphase.com (Cyphase) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:24:34 -0800 Subject: vnc access In-Reply-To: <200702170748.20025.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200702170748.20025.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1171718674.3939.17.camel@wave> I have my VNC server enabled, but instead of opening port 5900 on my router, I tunnel in through SSH. Easy and secure. Assuming you're outside your network.. 1. Open a port on your router for SSH 2. When connecting in, log in to SSH and create a tunnel from the computer you're on to your home machine. The command for this is ssh USERNAME at HOME_IP_OR_DOMAIN -p PORT_IF_NOT_22 -L 5901:localhost:5900 -C If you're on Windows, use PuTTY. 3. Use a VNC client (TightVNC is good) to connect to localhost:5901 4. Tada! On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 07:48 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I'm still having problems using a vnc client from behind a corporate to access > my home boxes. My vnc server is running OK and I can access it using java > when I'm at home connecting to either my LANs private IP or externally thru > the public IP and port 5800. When I try to do this from work, I get a time > out. > > Any ideas how to get through? I don't need/want anything that is too complex > since my objective is just to do occasional trouble shooting or grab a file. > > Paul > From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Feb 17 15:58:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:58:02 -0400 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> <1171643890.15315.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Michael R. Head wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 09:41 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> >> > I don't know about 6.10, but in Dapper Ctrl+Shift+ achieves a >> > similar result. For example, if I want an em dash, hold Ctrl+Shift and >> > type 2014 on the keypad. >> > >> No, it really depends how you're configured. That's not a default. > > And how do you configure that particular setup? > Don't ask me!! My point was that it's not what I've got. I can do composite characters, because I configured my right ctrl key to do it (in KDE, so not really appropriate here anyway), but I've never figured out how to do unicode characters as it's done in Windows. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Feb 17 16:00:09 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:00:09 -0400 Subject: Database modeler; Was: [RESOLVED] OopenGL References: <1171494269.10534.299.camel@croatus> <4e8cc6b10702150758j8167782t8b9b90cc736d65de@mail.gmail.com> <1171574017.4710.11.camel@croatus> <200702152234.27209.email.listen@googlemail.com> <61pga4-5a8.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <1171639336.28760.65.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <9dlja4-lcc.ln1@pointerstop.ca> John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 09:43 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: >> email.listen at googlemail.com wrote: >> >> > Is tora for oracle such a modeler tool you are looking for? >> > http://tora.sourceforge.net/ >> >> I thought tora used to support mysql. I'm sure I originally got it from >> Debian, which of course doesn't even provide an Oracle connection. > I looked at this package. It looks decent, but I didn't notice a > graphic E-R modeling component in it. Do you happen to know if this > package includes this? Sorry, I missed the keyword "modeler". :-( No, it doesn't do ER modeling. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Feb 17 16:08:08 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:08:08 -0400 Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: JRE References: <1171611139.28760.1.camel@croatus> <45D56583.3060109@dnainternet.net> <1171613797.28760.6.camel@croatus> <2c8763bb0702160036h1b212546jde340cd9ed9e8e35@mail.gmail.com> <1171615967.28760.14.camel@croatus> <1171643646.15315.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8slja4-lcc.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Michael R. Head wrote: > Also, JDK1.6 is in edgy-backports, which can be enabled via the Software > Sources administrative control panel. Oh cool! It wasn't when I went to feisty to get it. I'll stop suggesting people do what I did then :-) -- derek From mcontla at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 16:56:35 2007 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:56:35 -0800 Subject: AltCar + Num (special characters) In-Reply-To: References: <89fae3950702151129g65fb25bayf208de452cbfcf2a@mail.gmail.com> <45D4F159.40303@gmail.com> <1171643890.15315.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45D733C3.1080201@gmail.com> Derek Broughton said the following on 02/17/2007 07:58 AM: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 09:41 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I don't know about 6.10, but in Dapper Ctrl+Shift+ achieves a >>>> similar result. For example, if I want an em dash, hold Ctrl+Shift and >>>> type 2014 on the keypad. >>>> >>>> >>> No, it really depends how you're configured. That's not a default. >>> >> And how do you configure that particular setup? >> >> > Don't ask me!! My point was that it's not what I've got. I can do > composite characters, because I configured my right ctrl key to do it (in > KDE, so not really appropriate here anyway), but I've never figured out how > to do unicode characters as it's done in Windows. > Funny, because I didn't change a thing relating to keyboard in my 6.06 install. Ctrl+Shift+ has worked since the beginning. Works in gedit, gnome-terminal, openoffice, gvim, etc. I've never touched my compose key settings. See this Gnome User Interface Guidelines topic regarding keyboard interaction and application shortcuts (See Unicode Entry Shortcuts under the Guidelines subsection): http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/input-keyboard.html#shortcuts "Note that you cannot use Shift-Ctrl-A-thru-F or Shift-Ctrl-0-thru-9 for your own purposes, as these combinations are used to enter unicode characters in text fields." This caution to developers indicates to me that the method I outlined for accessing unicode or :special characters" is the default for Gnome. Why it wouldn't be the default for you doesn't make sense, unless you aren't using Gnome, or this behavior was changed on your system (either intentionally or unintentionally). -- Mitch From RickGreep at cti-consulting.com Sat Feb 17 17:16:21 2007 From: RickGreep at cti-consulting.com (Rick Greep) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:16:21 -0600 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Message-ID: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> All, I know this is old news but I wanted to share my experience with my upgrade from Dapper (6.06) to Edgy (6.10). My platform is a PowerBook G4, 166Mhz PPC processor with an Airport BCM4306 wireless card. According to the official upgrade document, "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", it is suggested you should should use the Update-Manager to perform the update. Others have been saying to not use this method and to go with the alternate apt-get approach. Since my system did not seem to have update-manager and I am more comfortable with apt-get, the decision was easy. I wrote a very quick script containing the suggested apt-get commands in the upgrade guide, added default yes (--yes) to the apt-get commands and fired it up. My first challenge came when my wireless connection died about 1/4 through the file transfer. I shouldn't have trusted the airport to make it through the entire upgrade, but it works so well in day to day activity I didn't suspect there would be a problem. The fix was to walk my laptop downstairs and plug into an RJ-45 port, then restart the upgrade. The "wired" connection was must faster and I should have gone that way in the first place. During the install process dpkg would offer me choices when it found a config file which was different then the newly distributed one. I was not familiar with this process and found it very helpful. By selecting a (D)iff I could see the differences between the files and make the decision with more than my fleeting memory to guide me. Either way you decide, the unused version of the file is saved so you can change your mind later. My next challenge came after the install was complete and I rebooted the system. I use encrypted home/swap & tmp directories. Setting this up in Dapper was easy with the cryptsetup and the /etc/crypttab files. In Dapper during the boot process you get a command level prompt asking for the password to the encrypted volumes. In Edgy, the GUI boot process does not switch back to the command prompt and so the encrypted drives are not mounted. This causes all kinds of havoc when the system cannot find the swap drive. I found the solution to this problem after reading the comments for bug #62751, "https://launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/62751". If you have encrypted volumes, this will be an issue and you should spend a bit of time reading the notes before attempting to upgrade. I applied one of the patches against the cryptdisks.functions script and was able to continue. I will continue to evaluate this issue. Be sure to copy the cryptdisks.functions to something like cryptdisks.functions.orig before applying the patch. The last issue I had was more of an inconvenience than an issue. X was up and working but the colors were pretty weird, usable, but weird. After referring back to the upgrade guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", I reconfigured the Xorgserver with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I had switched to VT1 to perform the reconfigure and was expecting to restart X, but when I switched back the colors were back to normal. Anyway that is my list of surprises & dumb mistakes. I hope it is of some help to the future upgraders. Aside from the CryptSetup issue, this has been one of the easiest upgrades I have ever had. If possible take backups and have an extra computer available for looking up errors, bugs and most importantly FIXES. -- Rick Greep, Core Technologies, Inc. RickGreep at cti-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From good_bye300 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 17 17:25:57 2007 From: good_bye300 at yahoo.com (Chris Lemire) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: vnc access In-Reply-To: <200702170748.20025.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <140968.55607.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You need to port forward tcp port 5900 if you are using on your router at home to your home computers lan ip address e.g. 192.168.1.100. That ip is found from "sudo ifconfig" for the device eth0. To do port forwarding, browse to your routers setup page from home. It is probably http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1 depending on which router you have, and then read the documentation for your router to do port forwarding. The username and password will probably be admin/admin or admin/blank if you have never changed it. VNC is not used for file sharing. You might want to setup a vpn with samba for that, or you can use scp (secure copy) that comes with the openssh-server package for file transfers. That will also require port forwarding with tcp port 22. Paul Kaplan wrote: I'm still having problems using a vnc client from behind a corporate to access my home boxes. My vnc server is running OK and I can access it using java when I'm at home connecting to either my LANs private IP or externally thru the public IP and port 5800. When I try to do this from work, I get a time out. Any ideas how to get through? I don't need/want anything that is too complex since my objective is just to do occasional trouble shooting or grab a file. Paul -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssweeny at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 18:23:59 2007 From: ssweeny at gmail.com (Scott Sweeny) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:23:59 -0500 Subject: F-spot and portrait oriented photos. In-Reply-To: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/07, Derek wrote: > Anyone who knows why F-spot is not importing/displaying the portrait > oriented photos? > It works for me. What version of f-spot are you using and could you post the specific photo(s) somewhere so others can try them? ~Scott From RickGreep at cti-consulting.com Sat Feb 17 18:32:56 2007 From: RickGreep at cti-consulting.com (Rick Greep) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:32:56 -0600 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> All, Looks like I forgot an issue... After the system was running, I kept getting errors "[: 6: ==: unexpected operator", when running scripts I had written for Dapper. For example, when checking if a variable contains a string: "if [ "$0" == "stuff" ]", I would get the unexpected operator. It turns out Edgy uses the Dash shell instead of the Bash shell. Not being familiar with Dash and having a ton of scripts I would need to rewrite, I changed the symbolic link for sh in /bin from "sh -> dash" to "sh -> bash". Problem solved, I'll check out Dash later. Take care, > All, > > I know this is old news but I wanted to share my experience with my > upgrade from Dapper (6.06) to Edgy (6.10). > > My platform is a PowerBook G4, 166Mhz PPC processor with an Airport > BCM4306 wireless card. > > According to the official upgrade > document, "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", it is suggested > you should should use the Update-Manager to perform the update. Others have > been saying to not use this method and to go with the alternate apt-get > approach. Since my system did not seem to have update-manager and I am more > comfortable with apt-get, the decision was easy. I wrote a very quick > script containing the suggested apt-get commands in the upgrade guide, > added default yes (--yes) to the apt-get commands and fired it up. > > My first challenge came when my wireless connection died about 1/4 through > the file transfer. I shouldn't have trusted the airport to make it through > the entire upgrade, but it works so well in day to day activity I didn't > suspect there would be a problem. The fix was to walk my laptop downstairs > and plug into an RJ-45 port, then restart the upgrade. The "wired" > connection was must faster and I should have gone that way in the first > place. > > During the install process dpkg would offer me choices when it found a > config file which was different then the newly distributed one. I was not > familiar with this process and found it very helpful. By selecting a (D)iff > I could see the differences between the files and make the decision with > more than my fleeting memory to guide me. Either way you decide, the unused > version of the file is saved so you can change your mind later. > > My next challenge came after the install was complete and I rebooted the > system. I use encrypted home/swap & tmp directories. Setting this up in > Dapper was easy with the cryptsetup and the /etc/crypttab files. In Dapper > during the boot process you get a command level prompt asking for the > password to the encrypted volumes. In Edgy, the GUI boot process does not > switch back to the command prompt and so the encrypted drives are not > mounted. This causes all kinds of havoc when the system cannot find the > swap drive. > > I found the solution to this problem after reading the comments for bug > #62751, "https://launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/62751". If you have encrypted > volumes, this will be an issue and you should spend a bit of time reading > the notes before attempting to upgrade. I applied one of the patches > against the cryptdisks.functions script and was able to continue. I will > continue to evaluate this issue. Be sure to copy the cryptdisks.functions > to something like cryptdisks.functions.orig before applying the patch. > > The last issue I had was more of an inconvenience than an issue. X was up > and working but the colors were pretty weird, usable, but weird. After > referring back to the upgrade guide > "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", I reconfigured the > Xorgserver with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I had switched to VT1 > to perform the reconfigure and was expecting to restart X, but when I > switched back the colors were back to normal. > > Anyway that is my list of surprises & dumb mistakes. I hope it is of some > help to the future upgraders. Aside from the CryptSetup issue, this has > been one of the easiest upgrades I have ever had. If possible take backups > and have an extra computer available for looking up errors, bugs and most > importantly FIXES. -- Rick Greep, Core Technologies, Inc. RickGreep at cti-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jdavila at hampshire.edu Sat Feb 17 18:46:43 2007 From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:46:43 -0500 Subject: Now's up-to-date software Message-ID: <45D74D93.1000708@hampshire.edu> Hello all, Does anyone know for a way by which my ubuntu edgy computer might be able to connect with a "Now up-to-date" server. Up-to-date is a calendar package that allows sharing information across different people. They have a version for OSX and for Windows, but I rather not deal with Wine if I can avoid it. TIA, Jaime -- ****************************************************** Jaime J. Davila Associate Professor of Computer Science Hampshire College School of Cognitive Science jdavila at hampshire dot edu http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila ******************************************************* From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Sat Feb 17 19:15:23 2007 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:15:23 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... Message-ID: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Hi, I plan to install a Linux distribution on my friend's laptop. It has a nVidia card, and 3DEffects are supported, I already tested it with many other distributions, including Edgy. But I wonder what's the future of Desktop efects on Ubuntu: Is it XGL or AIGLX? Because I want to follow the distribution's choice on that point, and dont want to switch in a near future, if I choose a nearly unsupported technology. Thank you for your answers. From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Sat Feb 17 19:36:31 2007 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:36:31 +0100 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz In-Reply-To: <1171647640.15315.24.camel@localhost> References: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> <4e8cc6b10702160613o74a70fd7x53477e5288cf9ddf@mail.gmail.com> <1171647640.15315.24.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 2/16/07, Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 11:57 -0500, Evan wrote: > > i had the same problem. try this from the command line: > > > > * the below command will show you what starts automatically: > > > > ls /home/username/.config/autostart > > > > ** if beryl-manager is there delete it with the following command: > > > > sudo rm /home/username/.config/autostart/filename > > > > *** I had the same issue with beryl because it was crashing my box and > > also loading automatically on startup. > > > > You can also check out the "Sesssions" Preferences panel. It's got a > startup tab with all the apps that are being started, both from your > home directory and by the system. Well, I have a problem related in that I used these instructions to install compiz http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper I did them backwards to remove it. However now when I log in I get all the way to desktop, then the screen goes black and I get a command line. 10 seconds later I get the gdm login screen again. I have to select the troubleshooting gnome session to be able to log in without it doing that over and over and over. > On 2/16/07, Samuel Thurston, III wrote: > > > On 2/16/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > > > > I installed Compiz and GL Desktop for a look. They're working pretty > > > > well but there are too many small problems which make it annoying. > > > > > > > So how do I get the normal Gnome session working again? > > > > > > I'm having the same problem. I forgot how I configured mine. I have > > > to get a terminal and run > > > > > > metacity --replace > > > > > > right now because my compiz windows are all grey. > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Michael R. Head > http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ > http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 20:53:56 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:53:56 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Message-ID: Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina a écrit : > Hi, > I plan to install a Linux distribution on my friend's laptop. It has a nVidia > card, and 3DEffects are supported, I already tested it with many other > distributions, including Edgy. > But I wonder what's the future of Desktop efects on Ubuntu: Is it XGL or > AIGLX? > Because I want to follow the distribution's choice on that point, and dont > want to switch in a near future, if I choose a nearly unsupported technology. > > Thank you for your answers. > The distribution's choice is AIGLX *BUT* if you really want to follow the distribution choice and if you're going to install Edgy or earlier release, you must not install either compiz or beryl cause none are officially supported. If you're going to install feisty then you'll have desktop effects include. (I hope I am not wrong :-p ) From michaelrpg at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 20:58:17 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:58:17 -0500 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use XGL. On 2/17/07, Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina < mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > I plan to install a Linux distribution on my friend's laptop. It has a > nVidia > card, and 3DEffects are supported, I already tested it with many other > distributions, including Edgy. > But I wonder what's the future of Desktop efects on Ubuntu: Is it XGL or > AIGLX? > Because I want to follow the distribution's choice on that point, and dont > want to switch in a near future, if I choose a nearly unsupported > technology. > > Thank you for your answers. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 21:48:04 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:48:04 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Michael Gustafson a écrit : > I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard > choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use > XGL. > that's weird, I have an ATI radeon and I use AIGLX on Edgy. From luis.strano at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 21:54:23 2007 From: luis.strano at gmail.com (Luis Felipe Strano Moraes) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:54:23 -0200 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Michael Gustafson a écrit : > > I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard > > choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use > > XGL. > > > that's weird, I have an ATI radeon and I use AIGLX on Edgy. you're probably using the free-software drivers. Michael mentioned he was using the proprietary ones, and they don't work with AIGLX yet. that being said, I also think that feisty won't include any 3d effects enabled by default. --lf > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "What comes and goes within those dull, dry pair of eyes What he lost, what he gained ... And what he saw in the infinite outskirts of the Internet ... Inside the virtual reality, the complex code... What is he thinking about ? Where do these unseen dreams go ?" BPS From oscar.casal at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 21:55:53 2007 From: oscar.casal at gmail.com (oscar casal) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:55:53 +0100 Subject: Online surveys / questionaires In-Reply-To: <1171656832.24692.8.camel@localhost> References: <45D5FF1E.9050501@uni-graz.at> <1171656832.24692.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: 2007/2/16, Michael R. Head : > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 19:59 +0100, Dieter Schicker wrote: > > Hi, > > > > can anybody recommend a good web-based solution for doing online > > surveys/questionaires? > > Isn't surveymonkey.com the standard spot for these things? That's the > site I usually see people hosting their surveys at. Warning, the free > account limits you to 10 questions and 100 respondents. > > I'm sure google can find more like http://www.go2poll.com/ > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=survey+web+free This is other program: http://www.phpsurveyor.org/ > > mike > > > Many thanks in advance > > Dieter > > > -- > Michael R. Head > http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ > http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Óscar Casal Sánchez Dpto. Electrónica y Computación Universidad de Santiago de Compostela Tfno: +981563100 Ext 13568 From michaelrpg at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 21:56:56 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:56:56 -0500 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702171356o508cdae0n40d7cd06643593a2@mail.gmail.com> Are you using the non-free binary drivers from ATI? I couldn't get them to work with AIGLX, and I read online that they don't work. I assumed this was for all ATI cards. The beryl website says "Please note: ATI Cards : Depending on your card you may find that you can use the ati/radeon driver with AIGLX. If you experience problems then you may need to use Xgl with the fglrx Driver.". I guess it's just some cards that don't work. I have a x800 On 2/17/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Michael Gustafson a écrit : > > I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard > > choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use > > XGL. > > > that's weird, I have an ATI radeon and I use AIGLX on Edgy. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As you can see from Matt Zimmerman's announcement, it was because the board felt the software was not yet mature enough for default inclusion in the stable distro. 1. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html Regards, Scott -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 22:09:59 2007 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:09:59 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <2ee9e5d30702171356o508cdae0n40d7cd06643593a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> <2ee9e5d30702171356o508cdae0n40d7cd06643593a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10702171409o53534f12i5445cd48981241fa@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/07, Michael Gustafson wrote: > Are you using the non-free binary drivers from ATI? I couldn't get them to > work with AIGLX, and I read online that they don't work. I assumed this was > for all ATI cards. Maybe this can help: http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/ > The beryl website says "Please note: ATI Cards : Depending on your card you > may find that you can use the ati/radeon driver with AIGLX. If you > experience problems then you may need to use Xgl with the fglrx Driver.". > > I guess it's just some cards that don't work. I have a x800 > > On 2/17/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Michael Gustafson a écrit : > > > I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard > > > choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use > > > XGL. > > > > > that's weird, I have an ATI radeon and I use AIGLX on Edgy. > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > From camerashy44 at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 22:16:23 2007 From: camerashy44 at gmail.com (camerashy44) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:16:23 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu 6.06 shutting down the power supply?(was "Auto Shutdown Ubuntu 6.06 ") Message-ID: <89d639700702171416o40a66a6waf88b2810bdff7b9@mail.gmail.com> I had Ubuntu 6.06 on my Optiplex GX1 working fine. On shut down it would dismount everything and then at the end would shut down the computer and turn off the power. I installed the up-grades that showed up on my up-grade icon and now when I shut down, Ubuntu dismounts everything and when it gets to "Will now Halt" it just sits there and I have to turn off manually. Any ideas as to what happened and how to correct it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 17 22:56:02 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:56:02 -0600 Subject: Reporting spam: Postfix, Amavis, spamassassin Message-ID: <45D78802.3020102@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've noticed that derivations of my email address are mangled and in so many spam lists, they help identify when mails are spam, no matter what. "Brian4421 at fahrlander.net" used to be circulated widely, and any mail for that address was sent straight to spam-reporting the moment it arrived. Several others are that way, too. Is there any *simple* way to report such spam, using postfix, amavis, spamassassin? Previous, older, sendmail setups were easy- put "spam: | spamd - --report" into /etc/alias and away we go. But all the howtos I'm seeing are suggesting changes to the master.cf file and making a big thing out of it. Anyone doing this? Is there a simpler way? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF14gC6PLtRzZbdhYRAkM7AJ0UIx2JmyaJNOsG1e14EeKLFWqMlACbBXtL zf9rYWRSz7hCPQCAK1nLoos= =2Rvo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 17 23:33:08 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:33:08 -0500 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10702171409o53534f12i5445cd48981241fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <2ee9e5d30702171258w733326b8we42287d3c8540d75@mail.gmail.com> <2ee9e5d30702171356o508cdae0n40d7cd06643593a2@mail.gmail.com> <6f6293f10702171409o53534f12i5445cd48981241fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171755188.5474.3.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 23:09 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 2/17/07, Michael Gustafson wrote: > > Are you using the non-free binary drivers from ATI? I couldn't get them to > > work with AIGLX, and I read online that they don't work. I assumed this was > > for all ATI cards. > > Maybe this can help: > > http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/ It helps in that it confirms Michael's suspicions. FGLRX drivers simply don't support Composite and won't work with AIGLX. For the time being, Xgl is the only option for beryl/compiz on recent ATI cards. If the opensource radeon drivers support your card, you're in luck (as I am), because they will work just fine with AIGLX and Composite. Indeed, my 5 year old laptop performs quite well with beryl's fancy effects on its 16MB radeon 7500 mobility. > > The beryl website says "Please note: ATI Cards : Depending on your card you > > may find that you can use the ati/radeon driver with AIGLX. If you > > experience problems then you may need to use Xgl with the fglrx Driver.". > > > > I guess it's just some cards that don't work. I have a x800 > > > > On 2/17/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > > Michael Gustafson a écrit : > > > > I believe AIGLX is included by default, so it is the more standard > > > > choice. The ATI drivers (fglrx) don't with AIGLX, so I am forced to use > > > > XGL. > > > > > > > that's weird, I have an ATI radeon and I use AIGLX on Edgy. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 17 23:38:44 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:38:44 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: <1171755525.5474.10.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 12:32 -0600, Rick Greep wrote: > All, > > Looks like I forgot an issue... > > After the system was running, I kept getting errors "[: 6: ==: unexpected > operator", when running scripts I had written for Dapper. For example, when > checking if a variable contains a string: "if [ "$0" == "stuff" ]", I would > get the unexpected operator. > > It turns out Edgy uses the Dash shell instead of the Bash shell. Not being > familiar with Dash and having a ton of scripts I would need to rewrite, I > changed the symbolic link for sh in /bin from "sh -> dash" to "sh -> bash". > Problem solved, I'll check out Dash later. If you're planning to use bash extensions to the shell language in your scripts, you should probably consider putting "#!/bin/bash" at the top of your scripts rather than "#!/bin/sh". That said, it sounds like you found a good hack that is working well for you and avoided the need to correct the scripts themselves. Dash was chosen because it implements the POSIX standard /bin/sh language with high fidelity and high performance (particularly during the boot process), so switching /bin/sh to point back to /bin/bash will cause your boot to run a little longer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh hope this helps, mike > Take care, > > > All, > > > > I know this is old news but I wanted to share my experience with my > > upgrade from Dapper (6.06) to Edgy (6.10). > > > > My platform is a PowerBook G4, 166Mhz PPC processor with an Airport > > BCM4306 wireless card. > > > > According to the official upgrade > > document, "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", it is suggested > > you should should use the Update-Manager to perform the update. Others have > > been saying to not use this method and to go with the alternate apt-get > > approach. Since my system did not seem to have update-manager and I am more > > comfortable with apt-get, the decision was easy. I wrote a very quick > > script containing the suggested apt-get commands in the upgrade guide, > > added default yes (--yes) to the apt-get commands and fired it up. > > > > My first challenge came when my wireless connection died about 1/4 through > > the file transfer. I shouldn't have trusted the airport to make it through > > the entire upgrade, but it works so well in day to day activity I didn't > > suspect there would be a problem. The fix was to walk my laptop downstairs > > and plug into an RJ-45 port, then restart the upgrade. The "wired" > > connection was must faster and I should have gone that way in the first > > place. > > > > During the install process dpkg would offer me choices when it found a > > config file which was different then the newly distributed one. I was not > > familiar with this process and found it very helpful. By selecting a (D)iff > > I could see the differences between the files and make the decision with > > more than my fleeting memory to guide me. Either way you decide, the unused > > version of the file is saved so you can change your mind later. > > > > My next challenge came after the install was complete and I rebooted the > > system. I use encrypted home/swap & tmp directories. Setting this up in > > Dapper was easy with the cryptsetup and the /etc/crypttab files. In Dapper > > during the boot process you get a command level prompt asking for the > > password to the encrypted volumes. In Edgy, the GUI boot process does not > > switch back to the command prompt and so the encrypted drives are not > > mounted. This causes all kinds of havoc when the system cannot find the > > swap drive. > > > > I found the solution to this problem after reading the comments for bug > > #62751, "https://launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/62751". If you have encrypted > > volumes, this will be an issue and you should spend a bit of time reading > > the notes before attempting to upgrade. I applied one of the patches > > against the cryptdisks.functions script and was able to continue. I will > > continue to evaluate this issue. Be sure to copy the cryptdisks.functions > > to something like cryptdisks.functions.orig before applying the patch. > > > > The last issue I had was more of an inconvenience than an issue. X was up > > and working but the colors were pretty weird, usable, but weird. After > > referring back to the upgrade guide > > "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", I reconfigured the > > Xorgserver with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I had switched to VT1 > > to perform the reconfigure and was expecting to restart X, but when I > > switched back the colors were back to normal. > > > > Anyway that is my list of surprises & dumb mistakes. I hope it is of some > > help to the future upgraders. Aside from the CryptSetup issue, this has > > been one of the easiest upgrades I have ever had. If possible take backups > > and have an extra computer available for looking up errors, bugs and most > > importantly FIXES. > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 17 23:42:19 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:42:19 -0500 Subject: F-spot and portrait oriented photos. In-Reply-To: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171755739.5474.14.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:03 +0100, Derek wrote: > Anyone who knows why F-spot is not importing/displaying the portrait > oriented photos? Yes. See this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/37972 Upshot: don't use gthumb to import your photos. You might be able to recode them with imagemagick or something else to get f-spot to read them... mike -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did a search on the Ubuntu wiki and the mailing list and seen nothing about the 700, only a little about the 600. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From cnsasi at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 04:46:40 2007 From: cnsasi at gmail.com (Sasikumar Natarajan) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:16:40 +0530 Subject: com port enable Message-ID: Hi All, i am trying to install ubuntu 6.0.6 version while doing test installation my mouse is not working. my mouse is connected in the COM PORT.So how can i enable com port. please advise me. -- Thanks in Advance Sasikumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Feb 18 05:36:49 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:36:49 -0600 Subject: com port enable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D7E5F1.4060108@fahrlander.net> Sasikumar Natarajan wrote: > Hi All, > > i am trying to install ubuntu 6.0.6 version while doing test > installation my mouse is not working. my mouse is connected in the COM > PORT.So how can i enable com port. please advise me. Check your bios; Linux has a long history of using a serial port for X, if it's available, without a lot of fooling around. If the mouse works, is connected, and the BIOS is enabling it, it'll work. If X once came up earlier and configured a USB mouse, you'll need to: dpkg=reconfigure =phigh xerver=xorg (As best I remember it; I'm in a van, guarding an apartment complex at the moment...) From RickGreep at cti-consulting.com Sun Feb 18 07:20:07 2007 From: RickGreep at cti-consulting.com (Rick Greep) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:20:07 -0600 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <1171755525.5474.10.camel@localhost> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <1171755525.5474.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Well it looks like I stumbled on a hornets nest. "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/61463". After spending a few of hours trying to get dash to work, I've found a couple of annoyances it just doesn't seem to handle. You cannot use escapes in the echo command ( -e "\t\n"), and variables like $HOSTNAME are not valued under dash. I know I can use `uname -n` instead of $HOSTNAME and maybe my echo commands don't have to be that pretty, but it is a bit annoying to have to change my scripts to accommodate this upgrade. Also from what I have read in the bug comments a number of vendors have also grown to rely on bashisms. Moving to dash as the default shell would break those scripts. It sounds like I will be a lot happier if I keep the "sh -> bash" symlink in place. Thanks for the link it was good to get the background on this. > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 12:32 -0600, Rick Greep wrote: > > All, > > > > Looks like I forgot an issue... > > > > After the system was running, I kept getting errors "[: 6: ==: > > unexpected operator", when running scripts I had written for Dapper. For > > example, when checking if a variable contains a string: "if [ "$0" == > > "stuff" ]", I would get the unexpected operator. > > > > It turns out Edgy uses the Dash shell instead of the Bash shell. Not > > being familiar with Dash and having a ton of scripts I would need to > > rewrite, I changed the symbolic link for sh in /bin from "sh -> dash" to > > "sh -> bash". Problem solved, I'll check out Dash later. > > If you're planning to use bash extensions to the shell language in your > scripts, you should probably consider putting "#!/bin/bash" at the top > of your scripts rather than "#!/bin/sh". > > That said, it sounds like you found a good hack that is working well for > you and avoided the need to correct the scripts themselves. > > Dash was chosen because it implements the POSIX standard /bin/sh > language with high fidelity and high performance (particularly during > the boot process), so switching /bin/sh to point back to /bin/bash will > cause your boot to run a little longer: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh > > hope this helps, > > mike > > > Take care, > > > > > All, > > > > > > I know this is old news but I wanted to share my experience with my > > > upgrade from Dapper (6.06) to Edgy (6.10). > > > > > > My platform is a PowerBook G4, 166Mhz PPC processor with an Airport > > > BCM4306 wireless card. > > > > > > According to the official upgrade > > > document, "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", it is > > > suggested you should should use the Update-Manager to perform the > > > update. Others have been saying to not use this method and to go with > > > the alternate apt-get approach. Since my system did not seem to have > > > update-manager and I am more comfortable with apt-get, the decision was > > > easy. I wrote a very quick script containing the suggested apt-get > > > commands in the upgrade guide, added default yes (--yes) to the apt-get > > > commands and fired it up. > > > > > > My first challenge came when my wireless connection died about 1/4 > > > through the file transfer. I shouldn't have trusted the airport to make > > > it through the entire upgrade, but it works so well in day to day > > > activity I didn't suspect there would be a problem. The fix was to walk > > > my laptop downstairs and plug into an RJ-45 port, then restart the > > > upgrade. The "wired" connection was must faster and I should have gone > > > that way in the first place. > > > > > > During the install process dpkg would offer me choices when it found a > > > config file which was different then the newly distributed one. I was > > > not familiar with this process and found it very helpful. By selecting > > > a (D)iff I could see the differences between the files and make the > > > decision with more than my fleeting memory to guide me. Either way you > > > decide, the unused version of the file is saved so you can change your > > > mind later. > > > > > > My next challenge came after the install was complete and I rebooted > > > the system. I use encrypted home/swap & tmp directories. Setting this > > > up in Dapper was easy with the cryptsetup and the /etc/crypttab files. > > > In Dapper during the boot process you get a command level prompt asking > > > for the password to the encrypted volumes. In Edgy, the GUI boot > > > process does not switch back to the command prompt and so the encrypted > > > drives are not mounted. This causes all kinds of havoc when the system > > > cannot find the swap drive. > > > > > > I found the solution to this problem after reading the comments for > > > bug #62751, "https://launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/62751". If you have > > > encrypted volumes, this will be an issue and you should spend a bit of > > > time reading the notes before attempting to upgrade. I applied one of > > > the patches against the cryptdisks.functions script and was able to > > > continue. I will continue to evaluate this issue. Be sure to copy the > > > cryptdisks.functions to something like cryptdisks.functions.orig before > > > applying the patch. > > > > > > The last issue I had was more of an inconvenience than an issue. X was > > > up and working but the colors were pretty weird, usable, but weird. > > > After referring back to the upgrade guide > > > "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades", I reconfigured the > > > Xorgserver with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I had switched to > > > VT1 to perform the reconfigure and was expecting to restart X, but when > > > I switched back the colors were back to normal. > > > > > > Anyway that is my list of surprises & dumb mistakes. I hope it is of > > > some help to the future upgraders. Aside from the CryptSetup issue, > > > this has been one of the easiest upgrades I have ever had. If possible > > > take backups and have an extra computer available for looking up > > > errors, bugs and most importantly FIXES. -- Rick Greep, Core Technologies, Inc. RickGreep at cti-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is that when I'm behind a corporate firewall at work, I can't contact home, and I have no admin access to the corp firewall. I can't ping public IP addresses from work, so I can't connect to my home box directly on port 5900 w/ a vnc client. I thought I would be able to use the java version and connect from a browser through port 5800. That's when the browser times out. If my logic seems wrong could you tell me how I might test the connection to determine where the block is? Paul On Saturday 17 February 2007 12:25:57 pm Chris Lemire wrote: > You need to port forward tcp port 5900 if you are using on your router at > home to your home computers lan ip address e.g. 192.168.1.100. That ip is > found from "sudo ifconfig" for the device eth0. To do port forwarding, > browse to your routers setup page from home. It is probably > http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1 depending on which router you > have, and then read the documentation for your router to do port > forwarding. The username and password will probably be admin/admin or > admin/blank if you have never changed it. VNC is not used for file sharing. > You might want to setup a vpn with samba for that, or you can use scp > (secure copy) that comes with the openssh-server package for file > transfers. That will also require port forwarding with tcp port 22. > > Paul Kaplan wrote: I'm still having problems using a > vnc client from behind a corporate to access my home boxes. My vnc server > is running OK and I can access it using java when I'm at home connecting to > either my LANs private IP or externally thru the public IP and port 5800. > When I try to do this from work, I get a time out. > > Any ideas how to get through? I don't need/want anything that is too > complex since my objective is just to do occasional trouble shooting or > grab a file. > > Paul From swschulz at astrum.com Sun Feb 18 13:10:49 2007 From: swschulz at astrum.com (S. William Schulz) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:10:49 -0500 Subject: vnc access In-Reply-To: <200702180716.57798.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <140968.55607.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200702180716.57798.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1171804249.11439.4.camel@warjack> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 07:16 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I don't believe the problem is with my router. I am forwarding ports 5800 and > 5900 to my target machine at home. The problem is that when I'm behind a > corporate firewall at work, I can't contact home, and I have no admin access > to the corp firewall. Can you ssh out from work to your home? Or use Hamachi? I always use VNC over a tunnel anyway, but perhaps using one or the other as an encrypted tunnel would help you get out of your corporate network and enable access to your home machines. SW S From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Feb 18 13:23:46 2007 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo F.) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:23:46 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <200702171659.43105.scott@wangfu.org> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <200702171659.43105.scott@wangfu.org> Message-ID: <1171805026.5003.7.camel@D4L> 2007-02-17 (土) の 16:59 -0500 に Scott Abbey さんは書きました: > FYI, the Ubuntu Technical Board voted recently to pass on desktop effects, be > it beryl or compiz, for feisty, deferring them to feisty+1 [1]. As you can > see from Matt Zimmerman's announcement, it was because the board felt the > software was not yet mature enough for default inclusion in the stable > distro. > > 1. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html > Having some nice effects would be good to compete with mac osx and vista, but do you guys know what are they gonna use? I tried beryl and its great but too many effects get me distracted and IMHO it goes against gnome usability philosophy. Compiz is endorsed by Novel but development goes slower. Maybe we will have 3d effects compiz for feisty+1 (shouldnt KDE 4 be out by then?) Regards From squareyes at internode.on.net Sun Feb 18 14:16:05 2007 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:46:05 +1030 Subject: com port enable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D85FA5.1090209@internode.on.net> Sasikumar Natarajan wrote: > Hi All, > > i am trying to install ubuntu 6.0.6 version while doing test > installation my mouse is not working. my mouse is connected in the COM > PORT.So how can i enable com port. please advise me. > > -- > Thanks in Advance > Sasikumar Hi Sasikumar, the first serial port in Linux is called ttyS0, next ttyS1 and so on. you could try in a terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and give your password when asked.and follow the steps, or in a terminal get in to this directory: etc/X11/ $ cd /etc/X11/ and *_make a backup of this file_*. then (if you are using Gnome) open a text editor ( I use gedit but you could use vim or the text editor in Kde) $ sudo gedit xorg.conf this command wiil open a configuration text file, now, go to section "InputDevice" with de Identifier "Configured Mouse" and modify the next line: Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" to Option "Device" "/dev/ttys0" (if the mouse is on the first serial port) and Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" to Option "Protocol" "Microsoft" Save and exit then restart X with crtl+alt+backspace, and it will work I have had problems with serial mouse, if possible, try a ps2 mouse. Hope this helps take care. Winton From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 14:15:55 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:15:55 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: <1171805026.5003.7.camel@D4L> References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <200702171659.43105.scott@wangfu.org> <1171805026.5003.7.camel@D4L> Message-ID: Xurxo F. a écrit : > 2007-02-17 (土) の 16:59 -0500 に Scott Abbey さんは書きました: > >> FYI, the Ubuntu Technical Board voted recently to pass on desktop effects, be >> it beryl or compiz, for feisty, deferring them to feisty+1 [1]. As you can >> see from Matt Zimmerman's announcement, it was because the board felt the >> software was not yet mature enough for default inclusion in the stable >> distro. >> >> 1. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html >> > Having some nice effects would be good to compete with mac osx and > vista, but do you guys know what are they gonna use? I tried beryl and > its great but too many effects get me distracted and IMHO it goes > against gnome usability philosophy. As for Beryl and its large set of effects, you can disable the one you find annoying user that nice setting manager they have. Every effect can be disabled. So you can customize it for your needs. :) I don't understand what you mean by Gnome Usability Philosophy :/ From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 18 14:22:37 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:22:37 -0500 Subject: com port enable In-Reply-To: <45D7E5F1.4060108@fahrlander.net> References: <45D7E5F1.4060108@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1171808557.2711.5.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 23:36 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > (As best I remember it; I'm in a van, guarding an apartment complex > at the moment...) What the heck? There's _got_ to be a good story lurking in there! > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This package is deprecated by apache2.2-common From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Feb 18 14:53:25 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:53:25 +1100 Subject: www-mysql: wrong dependency In-Reply-To: <20070218143656.7810.34810.reportbug@pavka.sytes.net> References: <20070218143656.7810.34810.reportbug@pavka.sytes.net> Message-ID: <20070219015325.3415f3c4.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:36:56 +0100 pavka wrote: > APT policy: (500, 'feisty-updates'), (500, 'feisty-security'), (500, 'feisty-proposed'), (500, 'feisty-backports'), (500, 'feisty'), (500, 'edgy-backports'), (500, 'edgy') Why the edgy stuff in here? Check /etc/apt/sources.list ? Peter From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Feb 18 15:31:04 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:31:04 -0500 Subject: vnc access In-Reply-To: <1171804249.11439.4.camel@warjack> References: <140968.55607.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200702180716.57798.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1171804249.11439.4.camel@warjack> Message-ID: <200702181031.04526.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Sunday 18 February 2007 8:10:49 am S. William Schulz wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 07:16 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I don't believe the problem is with my router. I am forwarding ports > > 5800 and 5900 to my target machine at home. The problem is that when I'm > > behind a corporate firewall at work, I can't contact home, and I have no > > admin access to the corp firewall. > > Can you ssh out from work to your home? Or use Hamachi? I always use > VNC over a tunnel anyway, but perhaps using one or the other as an > encrypted tunnel would help you get out of your corporate network and > enable access to your home machines. The box I need to connect to is an XP SP2 box running RealVNC. How do I set up the ssh tunnel from edgy? Paul From ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com Sun Feb 18 15:42:30 2007 From: ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com (BBBB) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:42:30 -0600 Subject: Azureus permissions, updates on Edgy Message-ID: <45D873E6.5060109@thingbuilder.com> Each time I start Azureus I get the error: Downloading: [http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/torrents/azplugins_2.1.4.jar.torrent: torrent,http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar] Downloading: azplugins_2.1.4.jar Torrent download complete Installing plugin azplugins, version 2.1.4 Data verification stage complete Version 2.1.4 of plugin 'azplugins' failed to install - /opt/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (Permission denied) I had the problem on another version and never got it fixed. This makes me think it is a common problem but I can't find the answer. Any ideas? Thanks, bradley From michaelrpg at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 15:48:37 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:48:37 -0500 Subject: Azureus permissions, updates on Edgy In-Reply-To: <45D873E6.5060109@thingbuilder.com> References: <45D873E6.5060109@thingbuilder.com> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702180748i185e4549x328bf7fed887412a@mail.gmail.com> Maybe you need to be root to install the plugins? I don't use azureus, so I'm not sure. On 2/18/07, BBBB wrote: > > Each time I start Azureus I get the error: > > Downloading: > [http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/torrents/azplugins_2.1.4.jar.torrent: > torrent,http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar] > Downloading: azplugins_2.1.4.jar > Torrent download complete > Installing plugin azplugins, version 2.1.4 > Data verification stage complete > Version 2.1.4 of plugin 'azplugins' failed to install - > /opt/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (Permission denied) > > I had the problem on another version and never got it fixed. > This makes me think it is a common problem but I can't find the answer. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > bradley > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 18 14:56:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:56:18 -0400 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <1171755525.5474.10.camel@localhost> <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: Rick Greep wrote: > Also from what I have read > in the bug comments a number of vendors have also grown to rely on > bashisms. Moving to > dash as the default shell would break those scripts. It sounds like I > will be a lot happier if I keep the "sh -> bash" symlink in place. Perhaps, but it's hardly Ubuntu's fault if vendors are shipping scripts with #! /bin/sh when they need bash. I'm surprised to find this change to a dash default, since absolutely nothing has broken on my system. I'm more surpised to find that sh is NOT controlled via the alternatives system! _That_ is a bug. -- derek From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Feb 18 15:59:04 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:59:04 -0500 Subject: sun-java5-jdk Message-ID: <1171814344.28760.84.camel@croatus> I installed sun-java5-jdk via apt, since its a pre-requisite for sun enterprise studio. When the studio install script runs, it says it cannot find a jdk installed. Does anyone here have any ideas as to how I can tell Sun Enterprise Studio 8.1 that I do have the jdk? Thanks (as always) for the input. From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 17:06:44 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:06:44 -0500 Subject: OpenGL Message-ID: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> how do I install OpenGL in ubuntu once installed, where will the libraries I have to link to be located? TIA -Erik From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 17:12:47 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:12:47 -0500 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin Message-ID: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package called sun-java5-bin I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up nothing how do I install these packages? TIA ~Erik From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Feb 18 17:19:59 2007 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo F.) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:19:59 +0100 Subject: desktop effects: XGL or AIGLX? compiz or beryl?... In-Reply-To: References: <200702172015.23387.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> <200702171659.43105.scott@wangfu.org> <1171805026.5003.7.camel@D4L> Message-ID: <1171819199.5431.11.camel@D4L> 2007-02-18 (日) の 15:15 +0100 に Ouattara Oumar Aziz さんは書きました: > Xurxo F. a écrit : > > 2007-02-17 (土) の 16:59 -0500 に Scott Abbey さんは書きました: > > > >> FYI, the Ubuntu Technical Board voted recently to pass on desktop effects, be > >> it beryl or compiz, for feisty, deferring them to feisty+1 [1]. As you can > >> see from Matt Zimmerman's announcement, it was because the board felt the > >> software was not yet mature enough for default inclusion in the stable > >> distro. > >> > >> 1. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html > >> > > Having some nice effects would be good to compete with mac osx and > > vista, but do you guys know what are they gonna use? I tried beryl and > > its great but too many effects get me distracted and IMHO it goes > > against gnome usability philosophy. > > As for Beryl and its large set of effects, you can disable the one you > find annoying user that nice setting manager they have. Every effect can > be disabled. So you can customize it for your needs. :) > > I don't understand what you mean by Gnome Usability Philosophy :/ What I meant was the Gnome human interface guidelines. Gnome usually hides configuration options to offer a simplified look. I know you can disable effects in Beryl but whenI tried it a few months ago it had too many options to configure(you could set up the speed of the effect, you had many effects for each action, etc). The menu looked cluttered, and it was more like those on KDE one. Besides, AFAIK beryl wont use the gnome configuration editor but its own setting manager. So far the effect i find the most practical would be transparencies (for use with the terminal) and the cube is nice too. Beryl crashed some times and I use it my computer to work so I felt back to metacity, but i recognize that beryl is amazing to show to your friends ;) My 2 cents.. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 18 17:36:57 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:36:57 -0500 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <45D88EB9.2040109@gatech.edu> Erik Schmidt wrote: > I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package > called sun-java5-bin > > I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up > nothing > > how do I install these packages? You probably don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat , and everything should Just Work. 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Since I'm trying to install Sun Studio (which looks for a Sun JRE), yeah, I think I do > > Matthew Flaschen > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 18 17:52:12 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:12 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702171233.21720.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <1171755525.5474.10.camel@localhost> <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: <45D8924C.80202@gatech.edu> Rick Greep wrote: > Well it looks like I stumbled on a hornets > nest. "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/61463". > > After spending a few of hours trying to get dash to work, I've found a couple > of annoyances it just doesn't seem to handle. You cannot use escapes in the > echo command ( -e "\t\n"), and variables like $HOSTNAME are not valued under > dash. > > I know I can use `uname -n` instead of $HOSTNAME and maybe my echo commands > don't have to be that pretty, but it is a bit annoying to have to change my > scripts to accommodate this upgrade. All you have to change is the #!, to: #!/bin/bash Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have universe/multiverse enabled in sources.list ? > > TIA > > ~Erik > > From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 18 18:08:12 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:08:12 +0000 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <45D8960C.8010109@manchester.ac.uk> Erik, Erik Schmidt wrote: > I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package > called sun-java5-bin > > I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up > nothing > > how do I install these packages? You need to enable the multiverse repository. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Sun Feb 18 18:05:26 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:05:26 +0000 Subject: Palm treo 700p In-Reply-To: <45D7C995.3070601@rogers.com> References: <45D7C995.3070601@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20070218180526.GA5091@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (17/02/07 22:35), Scott wrote: > I was thinking about getting a Palm Treo 700p, the one that uses the > Palm OS, and I was wondering how well it works with Kpilot, or, > possibly, some of the other palm syncing programs. I would greatly > appreciate anyone sharing their experience with me. I did a search on > the Ubuntu wiki and the mailing list and seen nothing about the 700, > only a little about the 600. I've had a 600 and currently have a 650, both work fine with J-Pilot; probably no reason to suppose the 700 wouldn't work as well. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 18 18:05:01 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:05:01 -0800 Subject: vnc access In-Reply-To: <200702181031.04526.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <140968.55607.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200702180716.57798.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1171804249.11439.4.camel@warjack> <200702181031.04526.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 02/18/2007 07:31 AM, Paul Kaplan wrote: > On Sunday 18 February 2007 8:10:49 am S. William Schulz wrote: >> >> Can you ssh out from work to your home? Or use Hamachi? I always use >> VNC over a tunnel anyway, but perhaps using one or the other as an >> encrypted tunnel would help you get out of your corporate network and >> enable access to your home machines. > > > The box I need to connect to is an XP SP2 box running RealVNC. How do I set > up the ssh tunnel from edgy? > Paul > > See Cyphase's post, or use Gnome-RDP. From michaelrpg at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 18:12:39 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:12:39 -0500 Subject: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702181012qd9a2809r70a8d1ee31354914@mail.gmail.com> I believe the runtime library for OpenGL is installed by default. The libraries are located in /usr/lib (ie. /usr/lib/libGL.so). If you want to develop your own OpenGL apps, you need to install the development package. I believe it is libgl1-mesa-dev. You might also want libglu1-mesa. As long as /usr/lib is in your path, you can link to the libraries by using -lGL and -lGLU. On 2/18/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > how do I install OpenGL in ubuntu > > once installed, where will the libraries I have to link to be located? > > TIA > > -Erik > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When the studio install script runs, it says it > cannot find a jdk installed. Does anyone here have any ideas as to how > I can tell Sun Enterprise Studio 8.1 that I do have the jdk? > > Thanks (as always) for the input. > > Check the install instructions in: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy Also try: sudo update-alternatives --config java and select the jdk? From diesch at spamfence.net Sun Feb 18 00:42:36 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:42:36 +0100 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still In-Reply-To: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Michael T. Richter's message of "Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:23 +0800") References: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <877iug47pf.fsf@spamfence.net> "Michael T. Richter" wrote: > As I've posted twice or thrice before, I've got a video problem under Edgy. > Files -- MPEG4-encoded -- that worked fine under Dapper (after installing every > codec available to mankind) have stopped working under Edgy (after installing > every codec available to mankind). First the problem was that none of the > video apps (VLC wasn't tested at this time) worked, with Totem(Gstreamer) and > Xine both complaining about the files being encoded in DivX5 format which they > didn't know how to manage. After doing a lot of digging I found a DivX6 codec, > installed it and tried again. Now Totem(Gstreamer) and Xine both complain that > the same files are in XviD format -- which they both purport don't know how to > manage. Mplayer, too fails with far more cryptic error reports that boil down > to "can't figure out the codec". It would be much more helpful if you'd post the exact error message. > Now here's the problem: Xvid support *IS* installed: > > $ aptitude search xvid > p avifile-xvid-plugin - XviD video encoding plugin for > libavifile > p gstreamer0.8-xvid - XVID encoder plugin for GStreamer You need to install this for GStreamer Florian -- From oozypal at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 18:48:17 2007 From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:48:17 +0300 Subject: Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out Message-ID: <299ffe0d0702181048k5b4c1cd5gbf70e8fbd3ae7dea@mail.gmail.com> Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out?? Any idea why? -- OOzy Kubuntu-Edgy From leewen at primus.ca Sun Feb 18 18:53:47 2007 From: leewen at primus.ca (lee) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:53:47 -0500 Subject: Azureus permissions, updates on Edgy (Michael Gustafson) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D8A0BB.9030601@primus.ca> You need to have write permissions in the directory that you have Azureus and all of its' files. Maybe you need to be root to install the plugins? I don't use azureus, so I'm not sure. On 2/18/07, *BBBB* < ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com > wrote: Each time I start Azureus I get the error: Downloading: [http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/torrents/azplugins_2.1.4.jar.torrent: torrent, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar] Downloading: azplugins_2.1.4.jar Torrent download complete Installing plugin azplugins, version 2.1.4 Data verification stage complete Version 2.1.4 of plugin 'azplugins' failed to install - /opt/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (Permission denied) I had the problem on another version and never got it fixed. This makes me think it is a common problem but I can't find the answer. Any ideas? Thanks, bradley -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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William Schulz wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 07:16 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: >>> I don't believe the problem is with my router. I am forwarding ports >>> 5800 and 5900 to my target machine at home. The problem is that when I'm >>> behind a corporate firewall at work, I can't contact home, and I have no >>> admin access to the corp firewall. >> Can you ssh out from work to your home? Or use Hamachi? I always use >> VNC over a tunnel anyway, but perhaps using one or the other as an >> encrypted tunnel would help you get out of your corporate network and >> enable access to your home machines. > > > The box I need to connect to is an XP SP2 box running RealVNC. How do I set > up the ssh tunnel from edgy? > Paul > > Hi, Let me resume what i understood : You have a WinXP at home connected to the internet and somehow you can access it via realVNC from the Internet. But at your office the firewall doesn't let you go through the VNC standard port . It doesn't let ping go through either. Well, if it''s the case , the thing you are looking for is a port allowed by the firewall. So you can choose port 8080 or 443 (or else from another protocol allowed). Then, I suggest you configure VNC Server to use it. then you're done. Another very nice solution I propose is that you install OpenVPN server on your home computer and make it listen on 443. ( http://openvpn.net/howto.html ) Then install openvpn and openVPN admin on the client and set it up (very few things to put in openvpn-admin) . ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/openvpn-admin/ ) and you're done. NOTE: I think the Thread is OFF Topic : you're not asking for help concerning Ubuntu but you're asking us to tell you how to bypass your corporate firewall. I don't mind telling you but you must know that it's considered as piracy. From RickGreep at cti-consulting.com Sun Feb 18 19:54:54 2007 From: RickGreep at cti-consulting.com (Rick Greep) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:54:54 -0600 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <45D8924C.80202@gatech.edu> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <45D8924C.80202@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702181355.08418.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Matthew, Yes, that changes the shell to bash but I was trying to convert my existing scripts to run under dash. I think I have finally realized that trying to run a Dash script in a Bash shell is just damn annoying. It is not the POSIX compatibility which is the problem, Dash just breaks things. Like the lack of shell variables like $HOSTNAME and the breaking of echo. I don't understand why the decision was made to change the default shell but it seems pretty half baked. Bash has been the linux "defacto" standard for years. If I want to run dash (not likely) I'll change the shebang to #!/bin/dash. Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Rick Greep wrote: > > Well it looks like I stumbled on a hornets > > nest. "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/61463". > > > > After spending a few of hours trying to get dash to work, I've found a > > couple of annoyances it just doesn't seem to handle. You cannot use > > escapes in the echo command ( -e "\t\n"), and variables like $HOSTNAME > > are not valued under dash. > > > > I know I can use `uname -n` instead of $HOSTNAME and maybe my echo > > commands don't have to be that pretty, but it is a bit annoying to have > > to change my scripts to accommodate this upgrade. > > All you have to change is the #!, to: > > #!/bin/bash > > Matthew Flaschen -- Rick Greep, Core Technologies, Inc. RickGreep at cti-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Many thanks in advance Dieter -- http://www.dilino.org (worst homepage ever) From dennis at kaarsemaker.net Sun Feb 18 20:02:46 2007 From: dennis at kaarsemaker.net (Dennis Kaarsemaker) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:02:46 +0100 Subject: Community Council meeting - february 26 Message-ID: <1171828966.5664.13.camel@mirage> Hello everybody, The Ubuntu Community Council will meet again on Monday February 26, 23:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on FreeNode. The meeting agenda can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda If you want to add yourself or something you wish to discuss to the agenda, please try and do so before Sunday to give the meeting attendees a chance to prepare. If you have any questions about the council or the process regarding becoming a member, feel free to contact me. 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(and taught me a few things) Bradley ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee" To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Azureus permissions, updates on Edgy (Michael Gustafson) > You need to have write permissions in the directory that you have > Azureus and all of its' files. > > > Maybe you need to be root to install the plugins? I don't use azureus, > so I'm not sure. > > On 2/18/07, *BBBB* < ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com > > wrote: > > Each time I start Azureus I get the error: > > Downloading: > [http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/torrents/azplugins_2.1.4.jar.torrent: > torrent, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar] > Downloading: azplugins_2.1.4.jar > Torrent download complete > Installing plugin azplugins, version 2.1.4 > Data verification stage complete > Version 2.1.4 of plugin 'azplugins' failed to install - > /opt/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar (Permission denied) > > I had the problem on another version and never got it fixed. > This makes me think it is a common problem but I can't find the answer. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > bradley > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 20:17:34 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:17:34 -0500 Subject: head phone sense Message-ID: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 18 20:36:06 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:36:06 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy In-Reply-To: <200702181355.08418.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> References: <200702171116.41459.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <200702180120.24139.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> <45D8924C.80202@gatech.edu> <200702181355.08418.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: <45D8B8B6.4020000@gatech.edu> Rick Greep wrote: > Matthew, > > Yes, that changes the shell to bash but I was trying to convert my existing > scripts to run under dash. I think I have finally realized that trying to run > a Dash script in a Bash shell is just damn annoying. You shouldn't be trying to do that. Running a sh script in either shell works, though. > > It is not the POSIX compatibility which is the problem, Dash just breaks > things. Like the lack of shell variables like $HOSTNAME and the breaking of > echo. I believe the behavior you want is not POSIX standard. /bin/sh is supposed to be POSIX sh. I don't understand why the decision was made to change the default > shell but it seems pretty half baked. Because dash runs much faster non-interactively. > Bash has been the linux "defacto" > standard for years. If I want to run dash (not likely) I'll change the > shebang to #!/bin/dash. That's the cost of relying on de facto standards. Anyway, it looks like you've solved your problem. In the future, you should write bash specific shells with the right shebang. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 18 20:37:22 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:37:22 -0500 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> Erik Schmidt wrote: > how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? If you mean just, sound comes through headphones when they're plugged in, and through the speakers otherwise, that's always happened for me with Ubuntu. I don't think it's controlled by the OS. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Feb 18 20:54:36 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:54:36 -0600 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45D8BD0C.5070903@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Erik Schmidt wrote: >> how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? > > If you mean just, sound comes through headphones when they're plugged > in, and through the speakers otherwise, that's always happened for me > with Ubuntu. I don't think it's controlled by the OS. Under Dapper it is; I'm using it. I was surprised to see such coolness, considering the cards are nebulous and weren't built for Linux. You might have to turn on the setting in preferences...once on, it's a checkbox inside an open "Volume Control". But if the choice isn't there, it's a technical detail of Edgy... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF2L0M6PLtRzZbdhYRAg+HAKCAtiwFAAIUkU6geoz9C+lYvYO4+ACcDqGi IMjGm/yigo7BwRXLzK82bdA= =7rQ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 18 21:07:17 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:07:17 -0500 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <45D8BD0C.5070903@fahrlander.net> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> <45D8BD0C.5070903@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45D8C005.4030801@gatech.edu> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Erik Schmidt wrote: >>> how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? >> If you mean just, sound comes through headphones when they're plugged >> in, and through the speakers otherwise, that's always happened for me >> with Ubuntu. I don't think it's controlled by the OS. > > Under Dapper it is; I'm using it. I was surprised to see such > coolness, considering the cards are nebulous and weren't built for Linux. > > You might have to turn on the setting in preferences...once on, it's > a checkbox inside an open "Volume Control". But if the choice isn't > there, it's a technical detail of Edgy... What preference? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz Sun Feb 18 22:02:01 2007 From: tom.eastman at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Tom Eastman) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:02:01 +1300 Subject: Unique names for UMS devices in /media/ In-Reply-To: <45D42823.5070803@quack.clara.co.uk> References: <45D42823.5070803@quack.clara.co.uk> Message-ID: Jon wrote: > Tom Eastman wrote: > >> I have several different USB Mass Storage devices (cameras, MP3 players, >> memory sticks and removable hard drives). All of them are correctly >> mounted in /media/ as 'usbdisk' or something similar. >> >> What I would like, though, is for each one to have its own directory >> name. For example, my mp3 player to come up as '/media/iriver' and my >> camera to come up as /media/fujifilm' or something like that. >> >> I know this can be done on some level, but I'm not sure how deep I have >> to go. Whether it's something to do with HAL, or udev, or somewhere else. > > There's a tool called "PyGTK Storage Device Manager" available as pysdm > in the universe repository which does exactly this. It provides a GUI > for udev rules - allows you to match a device by name, model, vendor or > bus and perform actions such as creating a link with a specified name > when the matching device appears. > > Screenshots at http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/ (although they don't show > the rule definition dialog) or just 'apt-get install pysdm' and take a > look yourself. > > Having said that, some of my devices seem to mount with sensible names > by themselves - some do, some don't. Maybe it's something I setup a > while back but I've forgotten about... nothing appears in /etc/fstab > though and I know I've never learnt to write udev rules. > > Jon > Thanks guys, it turns out that just having descriptive filesystem labels is a good place to start :-) Although I'll also have to check out this PySDM thingee too. Cheers! Tom From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Sun Feb 18 22:10:42 2007 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:10:42 -0500 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <1171836642.6249.6.camel@FUN.ncat.edu> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 15:17 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? Depends on the hardware, which in turn means there's an alsa driver associated with it. Care to provide these[0] details? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Feb 18 22:25:23 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:25:23 -0600 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <45D8C005.4030801@gatech.edu> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> <45D8BD0C.5070903@fahrlander.net> <45D8C005.4030801@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45D8D253.40509@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> Erik Schmidt wrote: >>>> how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? >>> If you mean just, sound comes through headphones when they're plugged >>> in, and through the speakers otherwise, that's always happened for me >>> with Ubuntu. I don't think it's controlled by the OS. >> Under Dapper it is; I'm using it. I was surprised to see such >> coolness, considering the cards are nebulous and weren't built for Linux. >> >> You might have to turn on the setting in preferences...once on, it's >> a checkbox inside an open "Volume Control". But if the choice isn't >> there, it's a technical detail of Edgy... > > What preference? Right-click on the speaker-icon (top bar), "Open Volume Control". Edit->Preferences will get you to the check-boxes to show which controls will be listed. If it's not in there, it's an Edgy problem; might involve tinkering with Alsa. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF2NJT6PLtRzZbdhYRAkl+AJ0YNjbkLBi7iYy0UM0xWt/7zpYbNQCfTBdP CvLl2tlRRwVc3qTiqvZbRgU= =aQ76 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 22:27:30 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:27:30 -0500 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <1171836642.6249.6.camel@FUN.ncat.edu> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> <1171836642.6249.6.camel@FUN.ncat.edu> Message-ID: <1171837650.4443.5.camel@erik-laptop> tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat Mixers: 0: SoundByLayout amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 177 Mono: Front Left: Playback 84 [47%] [on] Front Right: Playback 84 [47%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Detect Autoswitch',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Detected',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Bass',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 72 Mono: 36 [50%] Simple mixer control 'Treble',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 72 Mono: 36 [50%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 177 Mono: Front Left: Playback 142 [80%] Front Right: Playback 142 [80%] Simple mixer control 'Line-In',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Mono Mono: Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'Microphone',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Mono Mono: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'DRC Range',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 239 Mono: 119 [50%] Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Monitor',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 177 Mono: Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Speakers',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] erik at erik-laptop:~$ lspci -nv 0000:00:0b.0 0600: 106b:0034 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 Capabilities: 0000:00:10.0 0300: 1002:4e56 (rev 80) Subsystem: 1002:4e56 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48 Memory at 98000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at f0000400 [size=256] Memory at 90000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at f1000000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: 0001:10:0b.0 0600: 106b:0035 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 0001:10:12.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02) Subsystem: 106b:4318 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 16, IRQ 52 Memory at 80084000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] 0001:10:17.0 ff00: 106b:003e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16 Memory at 80000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] 0001:10:18.0 0c03: 106b:003f (prog-if 10) Flags: medium devsel 0001:10:19.0 0c03: 106b:003f (prog-if 10) Flags: medium devsel 0001:10:1a.0 0c03: 106b:003f (prog-if 10) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 29 Memory at 80083000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 0001:10:1b.0 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: 1033:0035 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 63 Memory at 80082000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0001:10:1b.1 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: 1033:0035 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 63 Memory at 80081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0001:10:1b.2 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 04) (prog-if 20) Subsystem: 1033:00e0 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 63 Memory at 80080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: 0002:20:0b.0 0600: 106b:0036 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 0002:20:0d.0 ff00: 106b:003b Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 39 Memory at f5004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] 0002:20:0e.0 0c00: 106b:0031 (rev 81) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: 106b:5811 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 40 Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0002:20:0f.0 0200: 106b:0032 (rev 80) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, slow devsel, latency 16, IRQ 41 Memory at f5200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] Expansion ROM at f5100000 [disabled] [size=1M] erik at erik-laptop:~$ asoundconf list Names of available sound cards: SoundByLayout erik at erik-laptop:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* cat: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory cat: /home/erik/.asoundrc*: No such file or directory erik at erik-laptop:~$ dmesg [ 0.000000] Using PowerMac machine description [ 0.000000] Total memory = 1024MB; using 2048kB for hash table (at cfe00000) [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.17-11-powerpc (root at royal) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)) #2 Thu Feb 1 17:56:02 UTC 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-powerpc) [ 0.000000] Found initrd at 0xc1900000:0xc1ec2000 [ 0.000000] Found UniNorth memory controller & host bridge @ 0xf8000000 revision: 0xd2 [ 0.000000] Mapped at 0xfdfc0000 [ 0.000000] Found a Intrepid mac-io controller, rev: 0, mapped at 0xfdf40000 [ 0.000000] Processor NAP mode on idle enabled. [ 0.000000] PowerMac motherboard: iBook G4 [ 0.000000] via-pmu: Server Mode is disabled [ 0.000000] PMU driver v2 initialized for Core99, firmware: 0c [ 0.000000] Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf0000000. Firmware bus number: 0->0 [ 0.000000] Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf2000000. Firmware bus number: 0->0 [ 0.000000] Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf4000000. Firmware bus number: 0->0 [ 0.000000] nvram: Checking bank 0... [ 0.000000] nvram: gen0=228, gen1=227 [ 0.000000] nvram: Active bank is: 0 [ 0.000000] nvram: OF partition at 0x410 [ 0.000000] nvram: XP partition at 0x1020 [ 0.000000] nvram: NR partition at 0x1120 [ 0.000000] Top of RAM: 0x40000000, Total RAM: 0x40000000 [ 0.000000] Memory hole size: 0MB [ 0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 262144 [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 196608 pages, LIFO batch:31 [ 0.000000] HighMem zone: 65536 pages, LIFO batch:15 [ 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda4 ro quiet splash [ 0.000000] mpic: Setting up MPIC " MPIC 1 " version 1.2 at 80040000, max 4 CPUs [ 0.000000] mpic: ISU size: 64, shift: 6, mask: 3f [ 0.000000] mpic: Initializing for 64 sources [ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes) [ 0.000000] GMT Delta read from XPRAM: 0 minutes, DST: off [ 0.000000] time_init: decrementer frequency = 18.432000 MHz [ 0.000000] time_init: processor frequency = 1333.333330 MHz [ 17.398096] Console: colour dummy device 80x25 [ 17.399006] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) [ 17.400331] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [ 17.472047] High memory: 262144k [ 17.472058] Memory: 1026896k/1048576k available (2748k kernel code, 283004k reserved, 432k data, 300k bss, 172k init) [ 17.472271] Calibrating delay loop... 36.73 BogoMIPS (lpj=73472) [ 17.541916] Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized [ 17.541939] SELinux: Disabled at boot. [ 17.541973] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 [ 17.542331] device-tree: Duplicate name in /cpus/PowerPC,G4 at 0, renamed to "l2-cache#1" [ 17.544778] checking if image is initramfs... it is [ 18.819714] Freeing initrd memory: 5896k freed [ 18.821111] NET: Registered protocol family 16 [ 18.821396] KeyWest i2c @0xf8001003 irq 42 /uni-n at f8000000/i2c at f8001000 [ 18.821409] channel 1 bus /uni-n at f8000000/i2c at f8001000/i2c-bus at 1 [ 18.821454] KeyWest i2c @0x80018000 irq 26 /pci at f2000000/mac-io at 17/i2c at 18000 [ 18.821463] channel 0 bus /pci at f2000000/mac-io at 17/i2c at 18000/i2c-bus at 0 [ 18.821489] PMU i2c /pci at f2000000/mac-io at 17/via-pmu at 16000/pmu-i2c [ 18.821497] channel 1 bus [ 18.821502] channel 2 bus [ 18.822036] PCI: Probing PCI hardware [ 18.824377] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:18.0 [ 18.824397] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:19.0 [ 18.824426] Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:18.0 disabled by firmware [ 18.824438] Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:19.0 disabled by firmware [ 18.825808] NET: Registered protocol family 2 [ 18.857956] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) [ 18.858424] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) [ 18.859714] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [ 18.860227] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) [ 18.860236] TCP reno registered [ 18.860323] Thermal assist unit not available [ 18.860537] Registering PowerMac CPU frequency driver [ 18.860544] Low: 666 Mhz, High: 1333 Mhz, Boot: 666 Mhz [ 18.866789] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [ 18.866818] audit(1171836951.468:1): initialized [ 18.866908] highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages [ 18.867011] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 [ 18.867041] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) [ 18.867123] Initializing Cryptographic API [ 18.867133] io scheduler noop registered [ 18.867140] io scheduler anticipatory registered [ 18.867147] io scheduler deadline registered [ 18.867160] io scheduler cfq registered (default) [ 18.867598] PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:10.0 (0006 -> 0007) [ 19.063292] radeonfb (0000:00:10.0): Invalid ROM signature 0 should be 0xaa55 [ 19.063300] radeonfb: Retrieved PLL infos from Open Firmware [ 19.063306] radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=183.00 Mhz, System=210.00 MHz [ 19.063310] radeonfb: PLL min 12000 max 35000 [ 19.830829] radeonfb: Monitor 1 type LCD found [ 19.830833] radeonfb: EDID probed [ 19.830836] radeonfb: Monitor 2 type no found [ 19.830848] radeonfb: Using Firmware dividers 0x00020074 from PPLL 0 [ 19.830907] radeonfb: Dynamic Clock Power Management enabled [ 19.873462] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48 [ 19.873527] Registered "mnca" backlight controller,level: 15/15 [ 19.873531] radeonfb (0000:00:10.0): ATI Radeon NV [ 19.903292] Generic RTC Driver v1.07 [ 19.903356] Macintosh non-volatile memory driver v1.1 [ 19.903463] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [ 19.904267] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 65536K size 1024 blocksize [ 19.904729] MacIO PCI driver attached to Intrepid chipset [ 19.905710] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /class/input/input0 [ 19.905984] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 [ 19.905991] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx [ 19.906072] adb: starting probe task... [ 19.907065] PCI: Enabling device 0002:20:0d.0 (0000 -> 0002) [ 19.931541] adb devices: [2]: 2 c3 [7]: 7 1f [ 19.936904] ADB keyboard at 2, handler 1 [ 19.936915] Detected ADB keyboard, type ANSI. [ 19.937081] input: ADB keyboard as /class/input/input1 [ 19.937166] input: ADB Powerbook buttons as /class/input/input2 [ 19.937173] adb: finished probe task... [ 20.925849] ide0: Found Apple UniNorth ATA-6 controller, bus ID 3, irq 39 [ 20.925866] Probing IDE interface ide0... [ 21.214030] hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive [ 21.885857] hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 5 [ 21.886904] ide0 at 0xf1022000-0xf1022007,0xf1022160 on irq 39 [ 22.905848] ide1: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0, irq 24 [ 22.905861] Probing IDE interface ide1... [ 23.306025] hdc: MATSHITACD-RW CW-8124, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [ 23.641850] hdc: Enabling MultiWord DMA 2 [ 23.642873] ide1 at 0xf1014000-0xf1014007,0xf1014160 on irq 24 [ 23.643074] PowerMac i2c bus pmu 2 registered [ 23.643122] PowerMac i2c bus pmu 1 registered [ 23.643171] PowerMac i2c bus mac-io 0 registered [ 23.643231] PowerMac i2c bus uni-n 1 registered [ 23.643366] TCP bic registered [ 23.643375] NET: Registered protocol family 1 [ 23.643386] NET: Registered protocol family 8 [ 23.643388] NET: Registered protocol family 20 [ 23.643456] Freeing unused kernel memory: 172k init [ 24.881985] Capability LSM initialized [ 25.667742] hda: max request size: 512KiB [ 25.718397] hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB), CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) [ 25.718498] hda: cache flushes supported [ 25.718579] hda: [mac] hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 [ 25.745576] hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, (U)DMA [ 25.745595] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [ 25.824766] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs [ 25.824807] usbcore: registered new driver hub [ 25.826256] ohci_hcd: 2005 April 22 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) [ 25.826310] Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:18.0 disabled by firmware [ 25.826319] Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:19.0 disabled by firmware [ 25.826330] PCI: Enabling device 0001:10:1a.0 (0000 -> 0002) [ 25.826349] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1a.0: OHCI Host Controller [ 25.826573] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1a.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 [ 25.826603] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1a.0: irq 29, io mem 0x80083000 [ 25.953925] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 25.953969] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 25.953988] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected [ 26.178739] PCI: Enabling device 0001:10:1b.0 (0000 -> 0002) [ 26.178766] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.0: OHCI Host Controller [ 26.179043] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 [ 26.179080] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.0: irq 63, io mem 0x80082000 [ 26.188524] ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394' [ 26.267109] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 26.267315] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 26.267336] hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected [ 26.370315] PCI: Enabling device 0001:10:1b.2 (0004 -> 0006) [ 26.370340] ehci_hcd 0001:10:1b.2: EHCI Host Controller [ 26.370384] ehci_hcd 0001:10:1b.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 [ 26.393871] ehci_hcd 0001:10:1b.2: irq 63, io mem 0x80080000 [ 26.393881] ehci_hcd 0001:10:1b.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 [ 26.393987] usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 26.394023] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 26.394038] hub 3-0:1.0: 5 ports detected [ 26.481881] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [ 26.498549] PCI: Enabling device 0001:10:1b.1 (0000 -> 0002) [ 26.498575] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.1: OHCI Host Controller [ 26.498632] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 [ 26.498665] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.1: irq 63, io mem 0x80081000 [ 26.577164] usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 26.577206] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 26.577224] hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected [ 26.680276] PCI: Enabling device 0002:20:0e.0 (0000 -> 0002) [ 26.730666] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[40] MMIO=[f5000000-f50007ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[8/8] [ 26.781342] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 27.072037] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [ 27.072062] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. [ 27.089937] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 [ 27.307325] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 27.805890] ohci_hcd 0001:10:1b.1: wakeup [ 27.885885] usbcore: registered new driver hiddev [ 28.006246] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[001451fffe32a232] [ 28.189884] usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [ 28.402315] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 28.705881] usb 4-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [ 28.920984] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 33.942322] input: HID 05ac:1000 as /class/input/input3 [ 33.942353] input: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [HID 05ac:1000] on usb-0001:10:1a.0-1 [ 33.961279] input: HID 05ac:1000 as /class/input/input4 [ 33.961304] input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [HID 05ac:1000] on usb-0001:10:1a.0-1 [ 33.967213] HID device not claimed by input or hiddev [ 33.975320] input: Logitech M4848 as /class/input/input5 [ 33.975342] input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Logitech M4848] on usb-0001:10:1b.0-1 [ 33.987992] input: Gravis Destroyer Xtreme as /class/input/input6 [ 33.987998] input: USB HID v1.00 Joystick [Gravis Destroyer Xtreme] on usb-0001:10:1b.1-1 [ 33.988014] usbcore: registered new driver usbhid [ 33.988019] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver [ 42.074402] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones [ 42.130620] agpgart: Detected Apple UniNorth 2 chipset [ 42.130722] agpgart: configuring for size idx: 4 [ 42.132208] agpgart: AGP aperture is 16M @ 0x0 [ 42.832080] pmac_zilog: 0.6 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt ) [ 42.832186] ttyS0 at MMIO 0x80013020 (irq = 22) is a Z85c30 ESCC - Serial port [ 42.832569] ttyS1 at MMIO 0x80013000 (irq = 23) is a Z85c30 ESCC - Serial port [ 43.853743] input: appletouch as /class/input/input7 [ 43.853826] usbcore: registered new driver appletouch [ 43.960315] sungem.c:v0.98 8/24/03 David S. Miller (davem at redhat.com) [ 44.038788] PHY ID: 4061e4, addr: 0 [ 44.039486] eth0: Sun GEM (PCI) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:14:51:32:a2:32 [ 44.039496] eth0: Found BCM5221 PHY [ 44.070512] ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' [ 44.073750] ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13 [ 44.073758] ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation [ 44.331716] bcm43xx driver [ 44.331913] PCI: Enabling device 0001:10:12.0 (0004 -> 0006) [ 44.821040] ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output [ 48.693991] snd-aoa-fabric-layout: found bus with layout 80 [ 48.694004] snd-aoa-fabric-layout: Using PMF GPIOs [ 48.748018] snd-aoa-codec-tas: found tas3004 [ 48.748070] snd-aoa-fabric-layout: can use this codec [ 48.812989] snd-aoa-codec-tas: tas found, addr 0x35 on /pci at f2000000/mac-io at 17/i2c at 18000/i2c-bus at 0/codec at 6a [ 49.866437] snd-powermac no longer handles any machines with a layout-id property in the device-tree, use snd-aoa. [ 49.955405] apm_emu: APM Emulation 0.5 initialized. [ 50.077080] SCSI subsystem initialized [ 50.102409] ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to serialize I/O (serialize_io=1) [ 50.102420] ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io=0 for better performance [ 50.103153] SoftMAC: Open Authentication completed with 00:11:24:21:fb:0d [ 50.368910] NET: Registered protocol family 17 [ 50.441830] Adding 412212k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/83b1efd0-5452-4d1f-b4da-0b8693de8850. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:412212k [ 52.839348] NET: Registered protocol family 10 [ 52.839507] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [ 52.839602] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 52.839732] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver [ 63.353850] eth1: no IPv6 routers present [ 144.740766] EXT3 FS on hda4, internal journal [ 153.183219] appletouch: incomplete data package. [ 155.179208] lp: driver loaded but no devices found [ 155.390885] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [ 157.009279] [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102 [ 157.101411] [drm] Initialized radeon 1.25.0 20060524 on minor 0 [ 158.091407] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:0b.0 into 1x mode [ 158.091423] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:10.0 into 1x mode [ 158.264556] [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map [ 158.264572] [drm] Can't use AGP base @0x00000000, won't fit [ 158.264582] [drm] Loading R300 Microcode [ 158.264637] [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs [ 166.359499] ondemand governor failed to load due to too long transition latency [ 166.590375] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8 [ 166.590387] NET: Registered protocol family 31 [ 166.590390] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized [ 166.590418] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [ 166.628124] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8 [ 166.628136] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [ 166.648227] usb 1-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd hid2hci rqt 64 rq 0 len 0 ret -110 [ 166.711068] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [ 166.711102] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [ 166.711106] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7 [ 166.793918] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 [ 167.097866] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 [ 167.378329] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 167.910443] Bluetooth: HCI USB driver ver 2.9 [ 167.917345] usbcore: registered new driver hci_usb erik at erik-laptop:~$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 1: 834 MPIC 1 Edge i2sbus: i2s-a (tx) 2: 0 MPIC 1 Edge i2sbus: i2s-a (rx) 3: 0 MPIC 1 Edge i2sbus: i2s-b (tx) 4: 0 MPIC 1 Edge i2sbus: i2s-b (rx) 24: 4585 MPIC 1 Level ide1 25: 30004 MPIC 1 Level VIA-PMU 26: 224 MPIC 1 Level keywest i2c 29: 131304 MPIC 1 Level ohci_hcd:usb1 30: 0 MPIC 1 Level i2sbus: i2s-a (control) 31: 0 MPIC 1 Level i2sbus: i2s-b (control) 39: 25815 MPIC 1 Level ide0 40: 2 MPIC 1 Level ohci1394 41: 0 MPIC 1 Level eth0 42: 0 MPIC 1 Level keywest i2c 47: 1187 MPIC 1 Level GPIO1 ADB 48: 31852 MPIC 1 Level radeon at pci:0000:00:10.0 52: 11410 MPIC 1 Level bcm43xx 61: 0 MPIC 1 Edge headphone-detect 63: 23230 MPIC 1 Level ohci_hcd:usb2, ehci_hcd:usb3, ohci_hcd:usb4 BAD: 12323 TIA ~Erik On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 17:10 -0500, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 15:17 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? > > Depends on the hardware, which in turn means there's an alsa driver > associated with it. Care to provide these[0] details? > > Thanks, > Daniel Chen > > [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 22:31:19 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:31:19 -0500 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <45D88EB9.2040109@gatech.edu> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <45D88EB9.2040109@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1171837879.4443.7.camel@erik-laptop> what would I need to install to develop in java, under teh assumption that I need stuff like java.util and javax.swing On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:36 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Erik Schmidt wrote: > > I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package > > called sun-java5-bin > > > > I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up > > nothing > > > > how do I install these packages? > > You probably don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat , and > everything should Just Work. > > Matthew Flaschen > From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 22:33:40 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:40 -0500 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <45D8D253.40509@fahrlander.net> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> <45D8B902.8080302@gatech.edu> <45D8BD0C.5070903@fahrlander.net> <45D8C005.4030801@gatech.edu> <45D8D253.40509@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1171838020.4443.9.camel@erik-laptop> fixed it thanks for all the help On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 16:25 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >>> Erik Schmidt wrote: > >>>> how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? > >>> If you mean just, sound comes through headphones when they're plugged > >>> in, and through the speakers otherwise, that's always happened for me > >>> with Ubuntu. I don't think it's controlled by the OS. > >> Under Dapper it is; I'm using it. I was surprised to see such > >> coolness, considering the cards are nebulous and weren't built for Linux. > >> > >> You might have to turn on the setting in preferences...once on, it's > >> a checkbox inside an open "Volume Control". But if the choice isn't > >> there, it's a technical detail of Edgy... > > > > What preference? > > Right-click on the speaker-icon (top bar), "Open Volume Control". > > Edit->Preferences will get you to the check-boxes to show which > controls will be listed. If it's not in there, it's an Edgy problem; > might involve tinkering with Alsa. > > - -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad > Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF2NJT6PLtRzZbdhYRAkl+AJ0YNjbkLBi7iYy0UM0xWt/7zpYbNQCfTBdP > CvLl2tlRRwVc3qTiqvZbRgU= > =aQ76 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From turf.ph at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 23:35:32 2007 From: turf.ph at gmail.com (AC Perdon) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:35:32 +0800 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <1171837879.4443.7.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <45D88EB9.2040109@gatech.edu> <1171837879.4443.7.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <161976c20702181535x1ea96d5dy77f1ebbe3ec08119@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Here is a another way to install JRE. I assume you have downloaded Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 , Linux self-extracting file from * http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp* 1. sudo apt-get install build-essential 2. sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common 3. fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin 4. sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update08_i386.deb 5. sudo update-alternatives --config java When asking for which version you want to choose pick; 3 /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java To Test: java -version I hope this help. Regards, AC On 2/19/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > what would I need to install to develop in java, under teh assumption > that I need stuff like java.util and javax.swing > > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:36 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Erik Schmidt wrote: > > > I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package > > > called sun-java5-bin > > > > > > I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up > > > nothing > > > > > > how do I install these packages? > > > > You probably don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat , and > > everything should Just Work. > > > > Matthew Flaschen > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- AC Perdon Registered GNU/Linux User #340122 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 00:15:45 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:15:45 -0500 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <1171826477.4424.1.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <1171821208.28760.92.camel@croatus> <1171826477.4424.1.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <1171844146.2711.15.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 14:21 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > yes, I'm running edgy, yes I have universe and multiverse enabled Hmm... what platform? http://packages.ubuntu.com/sun-java5-bin tells me that you should be able to find it in the multiverse for dapper, edgy, and feisty on i386 and amd64. For powerpc, there's an ibm-java package, too. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for more details. > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:53 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:12 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > > I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package > > > called sun-java5-bin > > > > > > I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up > > > nothing > > > > > > how do I install these packages? > > Are you running Edgy? > > Do you have universe/multiverse enabled in sources.list ? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > ~Erik > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 00:22:29 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:22:29 -0500 Subject: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: <1171844549.2711.21.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:06 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > how do I install OpenGL in ubuntu > > once installed, where will the libraries I have to link to be located? Sounds like you want the headers and linkable libraries. There's a libgl-dev virtual package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/virtual/libgl-dev You can see that there's a software rendering library and an accelerated library, so you'd probably want to pick libgl1-mesa-dev Once it's installed you can run "dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-dev" to find out where its files are located. Generally they'll be in the right place so your source should compile just like normal: gcc -lGL my-opengl-program.c mike > TIA > > -Erik > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 00:29:29 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:29:29 -0500 Subject: sun-java5-jdk In-Reply-To: <1171814344.28760.84.camel@croatus> References: <1171814344.28760.84.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171844969.2711.26.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 10:59 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > I installed sun-java5-jdk via apt, since its a pre-requisite for sun > enterprise studio. When the studio install script runs, it says it > cannot find a jdk installed. Does anyone here have any ideas as to how > I can tell Sun Enterprise Studio 8.1 that I do have the jdk? > > Thanks (as always) for the input. I'm guessing it's one of two things: 1. Your java links are pointing to gcj's implementation. so a "update-java-alternatives -l" at the commandline to see. You may have to run "sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun" to get what you want. 2. Sun's scripts might be expecting a JAVA_HOME to be set. In this case, just do "export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun" Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for more information You might be interested to know that Java6 (sun-java6-jdk) is in the dapper- and edgy-backports repositories. > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 00:34:59 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:34:59 -0500 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still In-Reply-To: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1171845300.2711.30.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 12:03 +0800, Michael T. Richter wrote: > Now here's the problem: Xvid support *IS* installed: > > $ aptitude search xvid > p avifile-xvid-plugin - XviD video encoding plugin for libavifile > p gstreamer0.8-xvid - XVID encoder plugin for GStreamer > v libxvidcore - > v libxvidcore-dev - > i libxvidcore4 - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library > p libxvidcore4-dev - High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library -- de > id xvid4conf - creates XviD configuration files > i xvidtune - X client - xvidtune You might need the gstreamer0.10 libraries in these packages: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg Also, for xine, you might need libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg mike > $ aptitude show libxvidcore4 > Package: libxvidcore4 > State: installed > Automatically installed: no > Version: 2:1.1.0-final-0.1ubuntu1 > Priority: optional > Section: multiverse/libs > Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Media Team > Uncompressed Size: 725k > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) > Provides: libxvidcore > Description: High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library > XviD is a high quality/performance ISO MPEG4 codec. > > Now I'm not completely stuck. VLC plays these files like a pro. > Unfortunately I'm just really not happy with VLC's controls nor look. > So I'd like to get these MPEG-4 AVIs working for Totem and/or Xine. > > What's the next step? -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you want sun-java6, add edgy-backports. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Feb 19 02:30:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:30:39 -0400 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <45D88EB9.2040109@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Erik Schmidt wrote: >> I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package >> called sun-java5-bin >> >> I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up >> nothing >> >> how do I install these packages? > > You probably don't need Sun Java. Install java-gcj-compat , and > everything should Just Work. Yes, you probably _do_ need Sun Java. If you install gcj, _almost_ everything (up to version 1.4) will just work. -- derek From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 19 02:59:21 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:59:21 -0800 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <6lena4-sni.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <6lena4-sni.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: On 02/18/2007 06:29 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: > NoOp wrote: > >> On 02/18/2007 09:12 AM, Erik Schmidt wrote: >>> I recently tried to install the java JRE, it said I needed a package >>> called sun-java5-bin >>> >>> I searched for this package in synaptic package manager, it turned up >>> nothing >>> >>> how do I install these packages? > >> >> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy >> search for: sun > > So much for "easy"linux. > > Just add multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list, and you get the > sun-java5-* packages. > > If you want sun-java6, add edgy-backports. Ummm... doesn't it basically say that plus some added information? How to install Java Development Kit (JDK) v5.0 [snip] sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jdk * Accept the licence agreement that appears. * Set Sun's JVM as default Java version: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun * Edit /etc/jvm and move /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun to the top of JVMs offered: gksudo gedit /etc/jvm * To fix the Ubuntu "libfontmanager" issue that can kill the entire JVM (e.g. JasperReports), remove these troublesome fonts: mkdir ~/fonts_backup sudo mv /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-gujarati-fonts/aakar-medium.ttf ~/fonts_backup/ sudo mv /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-gujarati-fonts/Rekha.ttf ~/fonts_backup/ The item just above it also shows how to upgrade to Java Development Kit (JDK) v6.0. From shettypraj at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 03:53:36 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:23:36 +0530 Subject: head phone sense In-Reply-To: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> References: <1171829854.4428.0.camel@erik-laptop> Message-ID: Hi Open Volume control, by double click on master. Goto switches tab and check Headphone jack. I think this should solve the problem Pushparaj On 2/19/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > how do I turn on head-phone sense in edgy? > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 06:58:31 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:58:31 -0500 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <6lena4-sni.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <1171868312.18451.4.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:59 -0800, NoOp wrote: > On 02/18/2007 06:29 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: > > NoOp wrote: > >> On 02/18/2007 09:12 AM, Erik Schmidt wrote: > >>> how do I install these packages? > >> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy > >> search for: sun > > > > So much for "easy"linux. > > Ummm... doesn't it basically say that plus some added information? I think his point was that simply giving someone a URL and saying "search for this keyword" isn't the most helpful thing. Sure, it's good to show someone where the information is located, but you should also take the next step and copy the important bits into the email. mike > -- Michael R. 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And someone should file a bug report and point to the patch at freedesktop.org... It sounds like the bug is all distros using unpatched xorg 7.1. Try the Cntrl-Alt-+ and then try the work around xvidtune -prev or xvidtune -next. Mark from TWUUG gave me the clue that led me to the bug in 7.1. I searched for DontZoom and ubuntu... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7097 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-290545.html The bug was caused by a certain someone screwing things up when they "changed case-insensitive string comparisons to case-sensitive ones". I am now attempting to rebuild the package, although the patch didn't completely apply correctly - hopefully it will work... Thanks, Chuck On 2/17/07, NoOp wrote: > On 02/16/2007 07:08 AM who is this? ը, Chuck Peters wrote: > > This issue is important for Kathy since she has really bad eyesight > > and has gotten used to extra desktop space. > > I just installed edgy for my friend Kathy and now her multiple > > resolutions don't work. ie. Cntrl-Alt-+/- doesn't do anything. The > > X.org log shows it other validated modes: > > (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: > > (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" > > (II) NVIDIA(0): "1024x768" > > (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600" > > (II) NVIDIA(0): "640x480" > > (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 > > > > I tried using the same xorg.conf that worked for her breezy setup as > > well as the new one done by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. How do I > > fix this one? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > > This may sound a little basic, but can you change resolutions from the > GUI (System|Preferences|Screen Resolution)? I ask because Ctl_Alt_+/- > probably won't work if you can't change resolutions from there. > > If you _cannot_ change from the GUI; you might want to get the H/V sync > for your particular monitor and manually put it in the xorg.conf file. > Example: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "CM641" > Option "DPMS" > HorizSync 31-95 <== manually inserted by me > VertRefresh 50-130 <== manually inserted by me > EndSection > > If you don't know what the proper settings are, try Google'ing for your > particular monitor (linux +monitorname). You'd be looking for a list > something like this: > > > [http://preview.tinyurl.com/2mardu] > > If you can change in the GUI already then I don't know what else to > suggest. Ctl_Alt_+/- works just fine on all my Dapper systems. > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 19 10:31:54 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:31:54 +0100 Subject: Can I use an agp card "externally"? In-Reply-To: <45D8B07F.3060705@dilino.org> References: <45D8B07F.3060705@dilino.org> Message-ID: <45D97C9A.3090209@welcomes-you.com> Hi, Dieter Schicker wrote: > I have a spare agp card and want to use it for a second monitor. Problem > is that there is no agp slot on my mainboard ("only" a second pci > express slot). Since I do not want to toss away my agp card here's my > question: Does anybody know about some sort of adapter for that purpose > or the like? I think I read about this a few months back and a quick search 'pcie agp bridge' turned up a few links, maybe you can buy one of these: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=15012 However, I've no idea how reliable they are working. HTH Carsten From a24061 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 19 11:16:49 2007 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Subject: Recent problem with anacron cron.daily hanging. Message-ID: <1idoa4-42k.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> A few days ago I started getting this strange problem: my cron.daily job was never finishing, so the next day's job couldn't run and a lot of the functions weren't getting run. I have to use a root shell in xterm to kill the hanging process, then watch with `ps aux` to see what hangs next, and so on. The hanging processes are mainly --- but not only --- in logrotate postrotate scripts. The first problem was that invoke-rc.d --quiet cupsys force-reload from /etc/logrotate.d/cupsys was hanging; when I killed it, cron.daily moved on down the list, but when I ran it manually from the root shell it worked. Later `/etc/init.d/sysklogd reload-or-restart` was hanging; so I killed it and ran it manually (no problem). In the past few days I've also had problems with the postrotate scripts for apache2 and samba hanging, as well as `/etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam reload-log`. The strange thing is that I'm having this problem on only one of two Ubuntu edgy machines, both running the same kernel (2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP, although on different hardware). I would be very grateful for debugging advice! Thanks, Adam From PaulJ at netcall.com.au Mon Feb 19 12:42:58 2007 From: PaulJ at netcall.com.au (PaulJ at netcall.com.au) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:42:58 +1000 (EST) Subject: How to get default desktop from partial install? Message-ID: <3579.203.171.82.195.1171888978.squirrel@mail.netcall.com.au> I've recently changed distros to Ubuntu 6.10 from Fedora FC6. I scrubbed the "/" partition but wanted to preserve the existing "/home" and "/usr/local" partitions from Fedora as they contained a lot of good stuff. Everything went well except on boot-up the desktop is a mess lacking the proper default set of menus etc. I presume the set-up for this is stored in my account somewhere and has not been overwritten by the new install. My question is: how do I reset the desktop to be the standard Ubuntu desktop as if from a completely clean install? Thanks, PaulJ. From ttmrichter at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 12:59:47 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:59:47 +0800 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still In-Reply-To: <1171845300.2711.30.camel@localhost> References: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171845300.2711.30.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1171889987.7599.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-18-02 at 19:34 -0500, Michael R. Head wrote: > You might need the gstreamer0.10 libraries in these packages: > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse > gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg I've got all these, but I've never had any luck with gstreamer in any version on any media files. :) I'm not sure at all why Ubuntu defaults to the gstreamer versions of things. > Also, for xine, you might need > libxine-extracodecs > libxine1-ffmpeg OK, libxine-extracodecs did the trick it seems. Thanks, Michael. (There wasn't a libxine*ffmpeg in my repository, though. Is that an external utility I may need to track down later on should other files cause me grief?) Thanks too to Florian and Luis for their feedback. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smiley-3.png Type: image/png Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From g_sauthoff at web.de Mon Feb 19 13:25:05 2007 From: g_sauthoff at web.de (Georg Sauthoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recent problem with anacron cron.daily hanging. References: <1idoa4-42k.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Message-ID: On 2007-02-19, Adam Funk wrote: Hi, [..] > The strange thing is that I'm having this problem on only one of two > Ubuntu edgy machines, both running the same kernel (2.6.17-11-generic > #2 SMP, although on different hardware). > I would be very grateful for debugging advice! 2 advices: - Do you have looked at the log files under /var/log ? Perhaps this helps to identify a reason. - Do you have set a mail alias for root?[1] Anacron mails output from jobs (i.e. errors) to the root user. Best regards Georg Sauthoff [1] you can check via grep ^root /etc/aliases - more info aliases(5) From jan.welker at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 13:50:12 2007 From: jan.welker at gmail.com (Jan Welker) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:50:12 +0100 Subject: Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0702181048k5b4c1cd5gbf70e8fbd3ae7dea@mail.gmail.com> References: <299ffe0d0702181048k5b4c1cd5gbf70e8fbd3ae7dea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <249f36a20702190550n3d994029w1b2f70ef6ada3367@mail.gmail.com> Did you install any extension? Cheers, Jan On 2/18/07, OOzy Pal wrote: > > Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out?? Any idea why? > > -- > OOzy > Kubuntu-Edgy > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Mon Feb 19 13:52:29 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:52:29 +1100 Subject: XVID and Edgy...still In-Reply-To: <1171889987.7599.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1171685003.13076.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171845300.2711.30.camel@localhost> <1171889987.7599.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20070220005229.0a74c3f5.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:59:47 +0800 "Michael T. Richter" wrote: > I've got all these, but I've never had any luck with gstreamer in any > version on any media files. :) I'm not sure at all why Ubuntu defaults > to the gstreamer versions of things. My experience is similar - but I noticed that the Feisty Herd 4 Live CD now has "prompted automatic download and install" for totem-gstreamer when it can't find codecs - ( works if you have a reasonable amount of RAM to add apps on the live CD ramdisk ) To my surprise, with the "found" gstreamer plugins installed, most of my movie and music files played from the mounted hard drive, with the exception of a few .mov ( Quicktime?) files . Real media also are a no-go so far. The combination of gstreamer and ffmpeg has made strides in the last few months, it seems. Even some .asf and .wmv files play just as well as with w32codecs and the xine engine. Totem-gstreamer now also plays .flv files, presumably using the ffmpeg plugins . Big improvement. No doubt there are still lacunae, however :) Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Mon Feb 19 14:06:44 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:06:44 +1100 Subject: How to get default desktop from partial install? In-Reply-To: <3579.203.171.82.195.1171888978.squirrel@mail.netcall.com.au> References: <3579.203.171.82.195.1171888978.squirrel@mail.netcall.com.au> Message-ID: <20070220010644.484f995a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:42:58 +1000 (EST) PaulJ at netcall.com.au wrote: > My question is: how do I reset the desktop to be the standard Ubuntu > desktop as if from a completely clean install? Most of this is user configuration files in the "dot g* " files of your home directory, I suspect. I would try this * Make a directory ( say "gnome.broken" ) in your home dir * move all the "dot gnome* && dot gtk* && dot gconf files and directories out of the way. A broad brush approach would be something like mv .gnome* .gconf* .gtk* gnome.broken/ You might prefer to hit ctrl+h in the Nautilus file manager to see the hidden files/dirs , and move them that way. A bit of a fishing expedition... I might have left something out anyway :) * log out, log in again - you should get all the defaults created again. If you have custom tweaks and icons/launchers etc, this might not be enough. I found that merely upgrading from one version of Ubuntu to the next can have unexpected effects on your default user account in Gnome. Of course, you could do the *sane* thing, and use Fluxbox instead ;-) Peter ( whistling innocently) From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 14:09:57 2007 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:09:57 +0000 Subject: How to get default desktop from partial install? In-Reply-To: <3579.203.171.82.195.1171888978.squirrel@mail.netcall.com.au> References: <3579.203.171.82.195.1171888978.squirrel@mail.netcall.com.au> Message-ID: On 2/19/07, PaulJ at netcall.com.au wrote: > I've recently changed distros to Ubuntu 6.10 from Fedora FC6. I scrubbed > the "/" partition but wanted to preserve the existing "/home" and > "/usr/local" partitions from Fedora as they contained a lot of good stuff. > Everything went well except on boot-up the desktop is a mess lacking the > proper default set of menus etc. I presume the set-up for this is stored > in my account somewhere and has not been overwritten by the new install. > My question is: how do I reset the desktop to be the standard Ubuntu > desktop as if from a completely clean install? > Thanks, > PaulJ. If you're running ubuntu (i.e., gnome), try moving your ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 files to somewhere out of the way. 1. Log out of gnome 2. do Alt-Ctrl-F1 3. log into the (text) tty and run the following: mv ~/.gnome ~/gnome.old && mv ~/.gnome2 ~/gnome2.old 4. Alt-Ctrl-F7 (back to Gnome) 5. Alt-Ctrl-Backspace (to restart X) I'm not sure if the last step is necessary, but just in case. -Eamonn From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 15:01:58 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Aziz) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:01:58 +0100 Subject: Dell has made a move Message-ID: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> Hi, I found out that Dell is thinking about that : http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/61771 Let's help them think about it :) . please promote that idea by clicking on the Promote button next to the title. Cheers :) From luca76 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 15:02:34 2007 From: luca76 at gmail.com (Luca Manganelli) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:02:34 +0100 Subject: What happened to Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter? Message-ID: The Issue #30 for the week of January 28th - Febuary 4th, 2007 is not yet out... and today is February 19th... -- "Work only as many hours as you can be productive and only as many hours as you can sustain." - Kent Beck, in "Extreme Programming Explained" http://www.trapanator.com/blog From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Mon Feb 19 15:13:06 2007 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:13:06 -0500 Subject: What happened to Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171897986.6686.0.camel@FUN.ncat.edu> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 16:02 +0100, Luca Manganelli wrote: > The Issue #30 for the week of January 28th - Febuary 4th, 2007 is not > yet out... and today is February 19th... The editors have been very busy. Step up and help. Thanks, Daniel Chen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Head wrote: > > You might need the gstreamer0.10 libraries in these packages: > > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad > > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse > > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly > > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse > > gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg > > I've got all these, but I've never had any luck with gstreamer in any > version on any media files. :) I'm not sure at all why Ubuntu > defaults to the gstreamer versions of things. I've been using the gstreamer version of totem since, perhaps, dapper with "great success." But yeah, in the past totem-xine was definitely a necessity. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone have any idea how long that might take? Thanks, Chuck From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Mon Feb 19 15:52:25 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:52:25 -0600 Subject: SU Message-ID: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Hi all. I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. Is there nothing I can do short of reinstalling? (I know that the answer better be no, but I thought I'd ask anyway.) Thanks! Dave From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 16:02:52 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:02:52 -0500 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 09:52 -0600, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > Hi all. > > I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. Is there nothing I can > do short of reinstalling? (I know that the answer better be no, but I > thought I'd ask anyway.) Can't you just do "sudo passwd" and reset it? It should also be possible to make a grub line that drops you into a shell on startup, or use a LiveCD to boot to a root shell in single user mode. I'll leave that for someone else to describe. > Thanks! > > Dave > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Mon Feb 19 16:08:49 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:08:49 +0000 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45D9CB91.7050002@manchester.ac.uk> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 09:52 -0600, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. Is there nothing I can >> do short of reinstalling? (I know that the answer better be no, but I >> thought I'd ask anyway.) > > Can't you just do "sudo passwd" and reset it? > > It should also be possible to make a grub line that drops you into a > shell on startup, or use a LiveCD to boot to a root shell in single user > mode. I'll leave that for someone else to describe. There should already be a recovery mode in your grub menu which will drop you into root. You may need to hit escape to see the grub menu. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 16:12:48 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:12:48 -0500 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <45D9CB91.7050002@manchester.ac.uk> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> <45D9CB91.7050002@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1171901568.18107.10.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 16:08 +0000, Tony Arnold wrote: > > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 09:52 -0600, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. Is there nothing I can > >> do short of reinstalling? (I know that the answer better be no, but I > >> thought I'd ask anyway.) > > > > Can't you just do "sudo passwd" and reset it? > > > > It should also be possible to make a grub line that drops you into a > > shell on startup, or use a LiveCD to boot to a root shell in single user > > mode. I'll leave that for someone else to describe. > > There should already be a recovery mode in your grub menu which will > drop you into root. You may need to hit escape to see the grub menu. Since he's set a root password, he'll have to enter it before he will get to single user mode. Since he's forgotten his root password, recovery mode won't help. > Regards, > Tony. > -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Mon Feb 19 16:22:31 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:22:31 -0600 Subject: SU References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <00cc01c75442$2addc460$6400e40a@stellaluna> > Dave Grundgeiger wrote: >> I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. Michael R. Head wrote: > Can't you just do "sudo passwd" and reset it? Yes, of course. Sorry for the noise. I'm pretty new to Linux. I'll go read some documentation before spamming the list again. Thanks for the quick help, though! Dave From hs.samix at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 16:40:27 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:40:27 -0500 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to export a home recording from wav format to mp3 from audacity. When I try to export a selection of audio to mp3, audacity wants to know the location of libmp3lame.so. Upon searching for it, it cannot find it anywhere. There is no *lame* in /usr/lib. I have searched through google and some suggestions are to install libmp3lame, or liblame-dev or lame packages. But I am not sure where to get them from. I am using Edgy eft. Any suggestions how to solve this one? thanks, ->HS From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Feb 19 16:49:12 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:49:12 -0600 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D9D508.7050505@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to export a home recording from wav format to mp3 from > audacity. When I try to export a selection of audio to mp3, audacity > wants to know the location of libmp3lame.so. Upon searching for it, it > cannot find it anywhere. There is no *lame* in /usr/lib. I have searched > through google and some suggestions are to install libmp3lame, or > liblame-dev or lame packages. But I am not sure where to get them from. > I am using Edgy eft. Any suggestions how to solve this one? Did you install lame? (It's not installed by default...and I believe it's in multiverse, not the default repos.) The Community Pages have all the details about multimedia. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF2dUI6PLtRzZbdhYRAtQOAJsG+Euw4pq0Lk0MHlrav3CW+xA9jwCeKdXH UeJ0I6IZv2Q9iCjpKVK8KqM= =uqtb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mcontla at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 16:54:17 2007 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:54:17 -0800 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45D9D639.9040109@gmail.com> H.S. said the following on 02/19/2007 08:40 AM: > Hello, > > I am trying to export a home recording from wav format to mp3 from > audacity. When I try to export a selection of audio to mp3, audacity > wants to know the location of libmp3lame.so. Upon searching for it, it > cannot find it anywhere. There is no *lame* in /usr/lib. I have searched > through google and some suggestions are to install libmp3lame, or > liblame-dev or lame packages. But I am not sure where to get them from. > I am using Edgy eft. Any suggestions how to solve this one? > > thanks, > ->HS > > > > liblame-dev is in the multiverse repository. If it's not already enabled, add the following to /etc/apt/sources.lst: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security multiverse Then at a shell prompt: $ sudo apt-get update #skip this if multiverse was already enabled $ sudo apt-get install liblame-dev That should do the trick. -- Mitch From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Feb 19 16:58:42 2007 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:58:42 +0000 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0702190858m72e18326t8cc3f53906696d9@mail.gmail.com> On 19/02/07, H.S. wrote: > audacity > wants to know the location of libmp3lame.so. Upon searching for it, it > cannot find it anywhere. Check for libmp3lame.so.0 it may let that work, Or libmp3lame.so.0.0.0.0 (in /usr/lib) If not you will need libmp3lame.so It is located in the package: liblame-dev It is located in Multiverse. It depends on liblame0 You need to enable multiverse, look in the help section of your system for info on that. Then open synaptic, click search and then type in 'liblame-dev' Select it to install, it may want to pull in liblame0 or similar, let it. Or you could just install liblame0 and try libmp3lame.so.0 Hope that helps Andy From vramnum10 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:01:07 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:01:07 -0800 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <00cc01c75442$2addc460$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> <00cc01c75442$2addc460$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702190901u597dbdcfo8aaad20e6e4b3849@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/07, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > > > Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > >> I think I may have forgotten the superuser password. > > Michael R. Head wrote: > > Can't you just do "sudo passwd" and reset it? > > Yes, of course. Sorry for the noise. I'm pretty new to Linux. I'll go read > some documentation before spamming the list again. > > Thanks for the quick help, though! It's ok... Ask questions.. That is what the list if for... A LOT of time it is much easier to draw on experience then searching the doc/man for hours.. If anyone complains.. Just ignore their bad manners... Linux loves every new user.... I am still new and have been using Linux for years..... Good Luck User Iam Dave > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vramnum10 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:10:02 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:10:02 -0800 Subject: Web Site Monitor Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> I am looking for recommendations for software to monitor my website.... 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I would have missed the PROMOTE button User Iam On 2/19/07, Ouattara Aziz wrote: > > Hi, > > I found out that Dell is thinking about that : > > http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/61771 > > Let's help them think about it :) . please promote that idea by clicking > on the Promote button next to the title. > > Cheers :) > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hs.samix at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:16:03 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:16:03 -0500 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so In-Reply-To: <45D9D639.9040109@gmail.com> References: <45D9D639.9040109@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mitch Contla wrote: > liblame-dev is in the multiverse repository. If it's not already > enabled, add the following to /etc/apt/sources.lst: > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security multiverse > > Then at a shell prompt: > > $ sudo apt-get update #skip this if multiverse was already enabled > > $ sudo apt-get install liblame-dev > > That should do the trick. Yes, it did! Many thanks. I first tried to uncomment the lines which already had multiverse in them, but then I realised they are for backports. Then I added the lines you gave above. I can now install liblame-dev. regards, ->HS From zeller at ibh-wor.de Mon Feb 19 17:24:17 2007 From: zeller at ibh-wor.de (Benjamin E. Zeller) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:24:17 +0100 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> On Monday 19 February 2007 18:10, User Iam wrote: > I am looking for recommendations for software to monitor my website.... What exactly do you want to monitor? > > TIA > > > User Iam... Benni -- Benjamin Zeller Ing.-Büro Hohmann Bahnhofstr. 34 D-82515 Wolfratshausen Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de www.ibh-wor.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Part two came up while trying to get some output while booting. I added . /lib/lsb/init-functions log_daemon_msg "Running ntpdate 1" echo "Running ntpdate 1, METHOD=$METHOD" at beginning of the ntpdate script and log_daemon_msg "Running ntpdate 2" echo "Running ntpdate 2, METHOD=$METHOD" right before the actual call to ntpdate-debian. When booting up, I get following output Running ntpdate 1 Running ntpdate 1, METHOD=localhost right after Starting basic networking... from S08loopback and Running ntpdate 1 after Loading hardware drivers from S10udev. Nothing more regarding ntpdate, not on the screen, not in syslog or any other logfile I can think of. Even the first echo line doesn't produce anything upon second call though there's no condition before it. What's going on here? What I'm getting wrong? I tested booting with and without "quiet splash" BTW, in Debian Etch syslog shows ntpdate called at boottime. Bye, Rolf From hs.samix at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:37:35 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:37:35 -0500 Subject: cannot find libmp3lame.so In-Reply-To: References: <45D9D639.9040109@gmail.com> Message-ID: H.S. wrote: > Mitch Contla wrote: > >> liblame-dev is in the multiverse repository. If it's not already >> enabled, add the following to /etc/apt/sources.lst: >> >> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse >> >> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security multiverse >> >> Then at a shell prompt: >> >> $ sudo apt-get update #skip this if multiverse was already enabled >> >> $ sudo apt-get install liblame-dev >> >> That should do the trick. > > > Yes, it did! Many thanks. I first tried to uncomment the lines which > already had multiverse in them, but then I realised they are for > backports. Then I added the lines you gave above. I can now install > liblame-dev. > > regards, > ->HS > > > Just wanted to add that liblame-dev is the package that actually gives the needed file in /usr/lib (it is actually a link). With just lame, you get: $> ls /usr/lib/libmp3* /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 With lame and liblame-dev, you get: $> ls /usr/lib/libmp3* /usr/lib/libmp3lame.a /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.la /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 ->HS From hs.samix at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:38:45 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:38:45 -0500 Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0702190914p14d3b02dw1e9f7e414497fd58@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> <727fc2ee0702190914p14d3b02dw1e9f7e414497fd58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: User Iam wrote: > Hey > > Thanks for that link.. > > And if you hadn't pointed it out.. > > I would have missed the PROMOTE button Yes, true. BTW, is the site horrendously slow or is it just my mozilla browser? ->HS From vramnum10 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:45:58 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:45:58 -0800 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> I just want to see what people are looking at on the web site.. I sell different products and I want to determine.. Are people visiting? What are they looking at?? TIA User Iam On 2/19/07, Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > On Monday 19 February 2007 18:10, User Iam wrote: > > I am looking for recommendations for software to monitor my website.... > > What exactly do you want to monitor? > > > > > TIA > > > > > > User Iam... > > Benni > > -- > Benjamin Zeller > Ing.-Büro Hohmann > Bahnhofstr. 34 > D-82515 Wolfratshausen > > Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 > Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 > Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 > mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de > > www.ibh-wor.de > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dee at akwireless.net Mon Feb 19 18:02:34 2007 From: dee at akwireless.net (W.D.McKinney) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:02:34 -0900 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: 727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: <20070219180234.1f9f738f@ribeye.akwireless.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: User Iam [mailto:vramnum10 at gmail.com] To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com] Sent: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:45:58 -0900 Subject: Re: Web Site Monitor > I just want to see what people are looking at on the web site.. > > I sell different products and I want to determine.. > > Are people visiting? > > What are they looking at?? > > TIA > > User Iam > We run webalizer happily. See http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ -Dee > > On 2/19/07, Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > > > On Monday 19 February 2007 18:10, User Iam wrote: > > > I am looking for recommendations for software to monitor my website.... > > > > What exactly do you want to monitor? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > User Iam... > > > > Benni > > > > -- > > Benjamin Zeller > > Ing.-Büro Hohmann > > Bahnhofstr. 34 > > D-82515 Wolfratshausen > > > > Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 > > Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 > > Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 > > mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de > > > > www.ibh-wor.de > > > From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Feb 19 17:55:25 2007 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:55:25 +0000 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> On 19/02/07, User Iam wrote: > I just want to see what people are looking at on the web site.. You probably want a log analyzer, what web server do you run? You could try awstats (its in the repositories). There is also webalizer (in Universe). Andy From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Feb 19 18:07:26 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:07:26 +0100 Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> <727fc2ee0702190914p14d3b02dw1e9f7e414497fd58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070219190726.813c1bd6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "H.S." wrote: > BTW, is the site horrendously slow or is it just my mozilla browser? It works reasonably well for me (takes around 5+ seconds to fully load the page). -- Vince From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 19 18:26:12 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:26:12 +0100 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <1171901568.18107.10.camel@localhost> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> <45D9CB91.7050002@manchester.ac.uk> <1171901568.18107.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45D9EBC4.6070001@welcomes-you.com> Michael R. Head wrote: > Since he's set a root password, he'll have to enter it before he will > get to single user mode. Since he's forgotten his root password, > recovery mode won't help. Even then a hearty init=/bin/bash on the boot prompt line might help. However, / might still be mounted read-only - I don't know how ubuntu does thos during start-up. I haven't tried that for 2+ years now, but as far as I know, that should still work. Cheers Carsten From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 19 18:27:55 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:27:55 +0100 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> Andy wrote: > On 19/02/07, User Iam wrote: > You could try awstats (its in the repositories). > There is also webalizer (in Universe). If you go for awstats (it's a great tool), please remove the cgi-script as soon as possible or make sure that no-one from the "evil" world can run it. The past has shown it is not the safest script around. Cheers Carsten From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 16:46:02 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:46:02 -0500 Subject: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <1171844549.2711.21.camel@localhost> References: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> <1171844549.2711.21.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <04020A3A-ABBD-4DE2-85C6-972B1472B3AF@gmail.com> so I understand how to use the opengl libraries and link them with gcc is there any difference in lining the the opengl and glut libraries with g++? TIA ~Erik On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:06 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: >> how do I install OpenGL in ubuntu >> >> once installed, where will the libraries I have to link to be >> located? > > Sounds like you want the headers and linkable libraries. There's a > libgl-dev virtual package: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/virtual/libgl-dev > > You can see that there's a software rendering library and an > accelerated > library, so you'd probably want to pick libgl1-mesa-dev > > Once it's installed you can run "dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-dev" to find out > where its files are located. > > Generally they'll be in the right place so your source should compile > just like normal: > > gcc -lGL my-opengl-program.c > > mike > >> TIA >> >> -Erik >> >> > -- > Michael R. Head > http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ > http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 19 18:45:43 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:45:43 -0800 Subject: Multiple resolutions don't work after edgy install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 02/19/2007 02:09 AM, Chuck Peters wrote: > I think this Cntrl-Alt-+/- problem applies to all edgy users. And > someone should file a bug report and point to the patch at > freedesktop.org... > > It sounds like the bug is all distros using unpatched xorg 7.1. Try > the Cntrl-Alt-+ and then try the work around xvidtune -prev or > xvidtune -next. > > Mark from TWUUG gave me the clue that led me to the bug in 7.1. I > searched for DontZoom and ubuntu... > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7097 > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-290545.html That's probably why I don't see the bug... my version of xorg is 7.0.0. From michaelrpg at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 18:47:57 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:47:57 -0500 Subject: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <04020A3A-ABBD-4DE2-85C6-972B1472B3AF@gmail.com> References: <1171818405.4393.1.camel@erik-laptop> <1171844549.2711.21.camel@localhost> <04020A3A-ABBD-4DE2-85C6-972B1472B3AF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702191047s284160e4g8bb8693aab347339@mail.gmail.com> > > is there any difference in lining the the opengl and glut libraries > with g++? > Nope. Should work just the same as far as I know. On 2/19/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > so I understand how to use the opengl libraries and link them with gcc > > is there any difference in lining the the opengl and glut libraries > with g++? > > TIA > > ~Erik > > On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 12:06 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > >> how do I install OpenGL in ubuntu > >> > >> once installed, where will the libraries I have to link to be > >> located? > > > > Sounds like you want the headers and linkable libraries. There's a > > libgl-dev virtual package: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/virtual/libgl-dev > > > > You can see that there's a software rendering library and an > > accelerated > > library, so you'd probably want to pick libgl1-mesa-dev > > > > Once it's installed you can run "dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-dev" to find out > > where its files are located. > > > > Generally they'll be in the right place so your source should compile > > just like normal: > > > > gcc -lGL my-opengl-program.c > > > > mike > > > >> TIA > >> > >> -Erik > >> > >> > > -- > > Michael R. 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URL: From slewin at rogers.com Mon Feb 19 19:57:25 2007 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:57:25 -0500 Subject: Palm treo 700p In-Reply-To: <20070218180526.GA5091@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <45D7C995.3070601@rogers.com> <20070218180526.GA5091@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <45DA0125.6070400@rogers.com> Clive Menzies wrote: >> I was thinking about getting a Palm Treo 700p, the one that uses the >> Palm OS, and I was wondering how well it works with Kpilot, or, >> possibly, some of the other palm syncing programs. I would greatly >> appreciate anyone sharing their experience with me. I did a search on >> the Ubuntu wiki and the mailing list and seen nothing about the 700, >> only a little about the 600. > > I've had a 600 and currently have a 650, both work fine with J-Pilot; > probably no reason to suppose the 700 wouldn't work as well. Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated. Sadly, I can not find anyone mentioning the 700 anywhere, it must be very new. But, on the other hand, I have seen much about the 600 and 650 and except for a few instances they seem to connect well using Jpilot and Kpilot. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Feb 19 20:20:56 2007 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:20:56 +0100 Subject: SU In-Reply-To: <45D9EBC4.6070001@welcomes-you.com> References: <005901c7543d$f5248ce0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1171900972.18107.7.camel@localhost> <45D9CB91.7050002@manchester.ac.uk><1171901568.18107.10.camel@localhost> <45D9EBC4.6070001@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <009301c75463$788472b0$0600000a@gigmce> Can you get in as a user with the right privileges to change passwords. The original user I think can get into the system/users/ and then..... From vrman49 at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 20:27:25 2007 From: vrman49 at gmail.com (Richard Mancusi) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:27:25 -0600 Subject: Palm treo 700p In-Reply-To: <45DA0125.6070400@rogers.com> References: <45D7C995.3070601@rogers.com> <20070218180526.GA5091@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45DA0125.6070400@rogers.com> Message-ID: <653ba2540702191227v758d7f14lc789b3c05627bde5@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/07, Scott wrote: > Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated. Sadly, I can not > find anyone mentioning the 700 anywhere, it must be very new. But, on > the other hand, I have seen much about the 600 and 650 and except for a > few instances they seem to connect well using Jpilot and Kpilot. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott I am using the 680 on Edgy/Gnome/JPilot - works great. I also know several others that have a 680 working well. There was one person on this list that followed my instructions and was unable to get it to work. The only obvious difference was he did an upgrade and I did a new install. Perhaps something was left behind that caused a problem or something didn't get updated. At the time he was unable to join the JPilot list - but I have been told that their list problem is now fixed. Why don't you try their list and ask your question. Don't forget to mention that you are not using Gnome. good luck -rich From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 19 21:00:20 2007 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:00:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <75033.96454.qm@web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> nice one ;) this has been a looooooong time coming. Am looking for a new laptop but will not be going with Dell due to this exact problem. Ouattara Aziz wrote: Hi, I found out that Dell is thinking about that : http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/61771 Let's help them think about it :) . please promote that idea by clicking on the Promote button next to the title. Cheers :) -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Mon Feb 19 21:02:04 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:02:04 +0000 Subject: Remove Preempt Message-ID: <45DA104C.8080002@googlemail.com> While messing about I installed the pre-empt module into the kernel, but I can't find a way to remove it. Anybody know? SteVe From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 19 22:37:35 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:37:35 -0500 Subject: Remove Preempt In-Reply-To: <45DA104C.8080002@googlemail.com> References: <45DA104C.8080002@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1171924655.22994.2.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 21:02 +0000, SteVe Cook wrote: > While messing about I installed the pre-empt module into the kernel, but > I can't find a way to remove it. Anybody know? How did you install them? How do you know they're not removed? What is the pre-empt module? Usually you can just "sudo modprobe -r pre-empt" or whatever the module name is to unload it. As far as removing it from the hard drive, that would depend on how it's installed. Is it in a deb package, or will you have to manually remove it from /lib/modules/2.... ? mike > > SteVe > -- Michael R. 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There's something else that worked that I can't remember now; maybe a page reload. It is annoying, but not so much that I don't just get on with life. Though now that you mention it, maybe I should report it . . . (Hmmm, better document what has been happening . . .) PAtton From labradley at mindspring.com Mon Feb 19 22:57:16 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:57:16 -0600 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? Message-ID: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> I run Dapper 6.06 on my Desktop machine and recently loaded Edgy 6.10 on a Laptop. The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers only the current 6.54 version. How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From p.echols at comcast.net Mon Feb 19 23:02:34 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:02:34 -0800 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? Message-ID: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> I'm a newbie to linux (Ubuntu my first functioning install, tried a redhat install years ago and lost patience before it would function). I have a project where I want to do some text editing, but not manually. The document is in HTML and has text in normal font, bold and italics, mixed in each paragraph and often in each sentence. (Basically a "redline" version of a lengthy document) What I need to be able to do is strip out the text in bold, remove the italic formatting, but leave that text. I could do it manually, but where's the fun in that? My question: I'm sure that there is either a linux tool, or text editor with scripting ability that can do what I want. And I'd love to RTFM, but I have no idea where to look. Anyone have any pointers / ideas? If not, a better forum to ask? Thanks From dee at akwireless.net Mon Feb 19 23:15:51 2007 From: dee at akwireless.net (W.D.McKinney) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:15:51 -0900 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_How_to_load_Edgy_version_of_a_package_onto_Da?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pper=3F?= In-Reply-To: 45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com Message-ID: <20070219231551.f35ad3bd@ribeye.akwireless.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Alkoff [mailto:labradley at mindspring.com] To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com] Sent: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:57:16 -0900 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? > I run Dapper 6.06 on my Desktop machine and recently loaded Edgy 6.10 on > a Laptop. > > The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). > When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers > only the current 6.54 version. > > How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? > > Larry Never tried but if you downloaded it and used #dpkg -i new-version.deb it may work. -Dee From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Mon Feb 19 23:14:18 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:14:18 +0000 Subject: Remove Preempt [IGNORE] In-Reply-To: <1171924655.22994.2.camel@localhost> References: <45DA104C.8080002@googlemail.com> <1171924655.22994.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45DA2F4A.6080509@googlemail.com> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 21:02 +0000, SteVe Cook wrote: >> While messing about I installed the pre-empt module into the kernel, but >> I can't find a way to remove it. Anybody know? > > How did you install them? How do you know they're not removed? What is > the pre-empt module? > > Usually you can just "sudo modprobe -r pre-empt" or whatever the module > name is to unload it. As far as removing it from the hard drive, that > would depend on how it's installed. Is it in a deb package, or will you > have to manually remove it from /lib/modules/2.... ? > > mike > >> SteVe >> Please disregard. Sorry about that, I don't need to do anything of the sort. I've got somebodies scribbled notes and managed to get them out of order and got very, very confused. SteVe From slewin at rogers.com Mon Feb 19 23:36:11 2007 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:36:11 -0500 Subject: Palm treo 700p In-Reply-To: <653ba2540702191227v758d7f14lc789b3c05627bde5@mail.gmail.com> References: <45D7C995.3070601@rogers.com> <20070218180526.GA5091@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45DA0125.6070400@rogers.com> <653ba2540702191227v758d7f14lc789b3c05627bde5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA346B.2050708@rogers.com> Richard Mancusi wrote: > I am using the 680 on Edgy/Gnome/JPilot - works great. I also know > several others that have a 680 working well. That is good to hear. > There was one person > on this list that followed my instructions and was unable to get it to > work. I have been following that thread, it was the one mention of someone having a problem :) I have saved your instructions just in case I need to use them myself, but I have also done a new install and probably will not have that problem. > At the time he was unable > to join the JPilot list - but I have been told that their list problem is now > fixed. Why don't you try their list and ask your question. Don't forget > to mention that you are not using Gnome. I am willing to use Jpilot if I need too, but would prefer to use Kpilot as it is very nicely integrated with the KDE desktop, but I will still do as you suggest. thank you. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net Mon Feb 19 23:46:56 2007 From: ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net (David Symons) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:46:56 +1100 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: > The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). > When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers > only the current 6.54 version. > > How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? Hi Larry, There is a dapper backport for vim7 available via: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages Note that I did check the official backports first: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages (but it's not there) Cheers, Dave. -- David Symons http://launchpad.net/~bimberi From labradley at mindspring.com Tue Feb 20 00:03:08 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:03:08 -0600 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> David Symons wrote: > On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >> The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). >> When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers >> only the current 6.54 version. >> >> How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? > > Hi Larry, > > There is a dapper backport for vim7 available via: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages > > Note that I did check the official backports first: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages > (but it's not there) > > Cheers, Dave. I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just add that temporarily to my sources.list. How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy repositories? Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 00:18:35 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:18:35 +0100 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Larry Alkoff a écrit : > David Symons wrote: >> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >>> The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). >>> When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers >>> only the current 6.54 version. >>> >>> How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? >> Hi Larry, >> >> There is a dapper backport for vim7 available via: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages >> >> Note that I did check the official backports first: >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages >> (but it's not there) >> >> Cheers, Dave. > > > I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. > > If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just > add that temporarily to my sources.list. > > How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy > repositories? > > Larry > NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break your system. To have latest packages, use the backport repository of your distribution (Dapper) . If it doesn't exist, ask for it and if you're lucky they will backport it for you. wattazoum From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 20 00:37:27 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:37:27 -0800 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin In-Reply-To: <1171868312.18451.4.camel@localhost> References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <6lena4-sni.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <1171868312.18451.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 02/18/2007 10:58 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:59 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> On 02/18/2007 06:29 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: >> > NoOp wrote: >> >> On 02/18/2007 09:12 AM, Erik Schmidt wrote: >> >>> how do I install these packages? >> >> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy >> >> search for: sun >> > >> > So much for "easy"linux. >> >> Ummm... doesn't it basically say that plus some added information? > > I think his point was that simply giving someone a URL and saying > "search for this keyword" isn't the most helpful thing. Sure, it's good > to show someone where the information is located, but you should also > take the next step and copy the important bits into the email. > > mike > >> > My apologies to the OP/Erik/all. Point well taken & I'll try to add more info in the future. That said, I've found the http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:(version) to be extremely helpful. Whenever I have a basic question about something I always check there first to see if the info I need is in that page. My purpose for pointing the OP there is: 1) the instructions are much more complete than simply "apt-get etc" in many cases, 2) there is always something else in there that I find useful beyond what I initially looked at, and 3) it's a useful & handy page (IMHO) to bookmark and refer to. From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 20 00:47:42 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:47:42 -0800 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On 02/19/2007 04:18 PM, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Larry Alkoff a écrit : >> >> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >> >> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >> >> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >> repositories? >> >> Larry >> > NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break > your system. > To have latest packages, use the backport repository of your > distribution (Dapper) . If it doesn't exist, ask for it and if you're > lucky they will backport it for you. > > wattazoum > > Raises hand & seconds that advise. Been there, done that; screwed up an entire test drive/system in the process. From michaelrpg at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 00:58:19 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:58:19 -0500 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702191658x306a9d69m8828d0007dd10671@mail.gmail.com> Try running this command: sed -e 's#<[^>]*>##g' oldfile > newfile This will strip all the html tags out. On 2/19/07, Patton Echols wrote: > > I'm a newbie to linux (Ubuntu my first functioning install, tried a > redhat install years ago and lost patience before it would function). > > I have a project where I want to do some text editing, but not > manually. The document is in HTML and has text in normal font, bold and > italics, mixed in each paragraph and often in each sentence. (Basically > a "redline" version of a lengthy document) What I need to be able to do > is strip out the text in bold, remove the italic formatting, but leave > that text. I could do it manually, but where's the fun in that? > > My question: I'm sure that there is either a linux tool, or text editor > with scripting ability that can do what I want. And I'd love to RTFM, > but I have no idea where to look. Anyone have any pointers / ideas? If > not, a better forum to ask? > > > Thanks > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Make the directory 700????? TIA User Iam Cheers > > Carsten > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 20 01:10:35 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:10:35 -0500 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> Patton Echols wrote: > My question: I'm sure that there is either a linux tool, or text editor > with scripting ability that can do what I want. I'd recommend GNU Emacs for that. Ubuntu of course has it in the repositories. You can install it with the command: sudo apt-get install emacs It could definitely handle this kind of job easy. This is tested, but not on your doc, so either make a backup copy or be familiar with emacs undo (Control-/). In Emacs: Bold: Alt-x replace-regex .*? RETURN RETURN Italics: Alt-x replace-regex \(.*?\) RETURN \1 RETURN If you have questions, you could reply, or try the help-gnu-emacs at gnu.org list (http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From labradley at mindspring.com Tue Feb 20 01:15:35 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:15:35 -0600 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Larry Alkoff a écrit : >> David Symons wrote: >>> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >>>> The Laptop loaded a much better version of Vim (7.1 vs 6.54). >>>> When I try to update the Vim package on the Desktop it offers >>>> only the current 6.54 version. >>>> >>>> How can I get the Edgy version onto Dapper? >>> Hi Larry, >>> >>> There is a dapper backport for vim7 available via: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages >>> >>> Note that I did check the official backports first: >>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages >>> (but it's not there) >>> >>> Cheers, Dave. >> >> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >> >> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >> >> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >> repositories? >> >> Larry >> > NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break > your system. > To have latest packages, use the backport repository of your > distribution (Dapper) . If it doesn't exist, ask for it and if you're > lucky they will backport it for you. > > wattazoum > > OK I'll take your and Noop's advice and not mess with Edgy repositories for Dapper. Backports were commented out in my sources.list. I tried commenting _in_ the backports repository in sources.list and using 'dselect select' Searching for vim only gave me the old version which I already have. Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net Tue Feb 20 01:40:35 2007 From: ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net (David Symons) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:40:35 +1100 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? Larry, the SeveasPackages link I gave you earlier will help you find one. For example it could lead you here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ You can either download the .deb files directly or follow the instructions at the top of that page to add the repository. Cheers, Dave. -- David Symons https://launchpad.net/~bimberi From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 20 01:58:00 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:58:00 -0800 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02/19/2007 05:40 PM, David Symons wrote: > On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >> Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? > > Larry, the SeveasPackages link I gave you earlier will help you find > one. For example it could lead you here: > http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ > > You can either download the .deb files directly or follow the > instructions at the top of that page to add the repository. > > Cheers, Dave. Those, and the following from ubuntu show 7.0: Package vim * warty (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2.3: amd64 i386 powerpc 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2: amd64 i386 powerpc * hoary (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7.1: amd64 i386 powerpc 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7: amd64 i386 powerpc * breezy (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3: amd64 i386 powerpc * dapper (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6: amd64 i386 powerpc * edgy (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5: amd64 i386 powerpc * feisty (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu3: amd64 i386 powerpc http://www.vim.org/sources.php also shows 7.0, I can't find a 7.1. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 01:43:48 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:43:48 -0400 Subject: java5-jre and sun-java5-bin References: <1171818767.4393.4.camel@erik-laptop> <6lena4-sni.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <1171868312.18451.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > On 02/18/2007 10:58 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:59 -0800, NoOp wrote: >>> On 02/18/2007 06:29 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: >>> > NoOp wrote: >>> >> On 02/18/2007 09:12 AM, Erik Schmidt wrote: >>> >>> how do I install these packages? >>> >> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy >>> >> search for: sun >>> > >>> > So much for "easy"linux. >>> >>> Ummm... doesn't it basically say that plus some added information? >> >> I think his point was that simply giving someone a URL and saying >> "search for this keyword" isn't the most helpful thing. Sure, it's good >> to show someone where the information is located, but you should also >> take the next step and copy the important bits into the email. >> > My apologies to the OP/Erik/all. Point well taken & I'll try to add more > info in the future. I should apologize, too, because I wasn't much more helpful, but I really think that "EasyLinux" (and far worse, Automatix) simply hide the fact that Ubuntu really does support all of this. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 01:49:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:49:33 -0400 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Larry Alkoff a écrit : >> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >> >> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >> >> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >> repositories? >> > NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break > your system. Oh, don't be such a wet blanket. It's not that serious. > To have latest packages, use the backport repository of your > distribution (Dapper) . If it doesn't exist, ask for it and if you're > lucky they will backport it for you. Why would you do that if you could actually get what you want from an existing repo? Yes, use dapper-backports first. Add this to your sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports \ main restricted universe multiverse Then, of course, "sudo aptitude update". If that doesn't work, try using edgy, but when you try the install, if it wants to add much more than the package you requested, assume it's going to be hazardous and don't bother. There are all sorts of packages, though, that will successfully install without any other dependencies, and are perfectly safe to install from a newer release. -- derek From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 20 02:17:15 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:17:15 -0800 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: <2ee9e5d30702191658x306a9d69m8828d0007dd10671@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> <2ee9e5d30702191658x306a9d69m8828d0007dd10671@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA5A2B.3020508@comcast.net> On 02/19/2007 04:58 PM, Michael Gustafson wrote: > Try running this command: sed -e 's#<[^>]*>##g' oldfile > newfile > > This will strip all the html tags out. Ok, I'm not just trying to Strip the HTML, for the "bolded" text I need to strip the stuff between the on and off tags. For the ital, just strip the tags. I have not tried to puzzle through the "man sed" is there a better place than that to learn the syntax? Thanks Patton From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 01:52:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:52:21 -0400 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: NoOp wrote: > On 02/19/2007 04:18 PM, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Larry Alkoff a écrit : > >>> >>> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >>> >>> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >>> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >>> >>> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >>> repositories? >>> >>> Larry >>> >> NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break >> your system. >> To have latest packages, use the backport repository of your >> distribution (Dapper) . If it doesn't exist, ask for it and if you're >> lucky they will backport it for you. >> > Raises hand & seconds that advise. Been there, done that; screwed up an > entire test drive/system in the process. Been there, done that many a time. It always asks if I _really_ want to do it. It doesn't take much common sense to realize that when an update wants to update libc6, it might be a little extreme. If you try to install vim, and all it asks to add is a few lib* packages that you don't already have, it's not something to be scared of. Somewhere in between you should think long and hard, but even if it does mess you up - it's reversible! -- derek From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 20 02:22:20 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:22:20 -0800 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45DA5B5C.3040407@comcast.net> On 02/19/2007 05:10 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > >> My question: I'm sure that there is either a linux tool, or text editor >> with scripting ability that can do what I want. >> > > I'd recommend GNU Emacs for that. Ubuntu of course has it in the > repositories. You can install it with the command: > > sudo apt-get install emacs > > It could definitely handle this kind of job easy. This is tested, but > not on your doc, so either make a backup copy or be familiar with emacs > undo (Control-/). > Right, always backup before you intentionally break something. :-) > In Emacs: > > Bold: > > Alt-x replace-regex > .*? RETURN > RETURN > > Italics: > > Alt-x replace-regex > \(.*?\) RETURN > \1 RETURN > > If you have questions, you could reply, or try the > help-gnu-emacs at gnu.org list > (http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs) > > Matthew Flaschen > > Ok, this looks like something I can figure out. I appreciate it. This is the sort of thing that I need to do in different forms repeatedly. And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do this stuff, so I really appreciate your help. Means a lot more than just this document . . . That means you too Michael G. Thanks Patton From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 20 02:39:09 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:39:09 -0500 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: <45DA5B5C.3040407@comcast.net> References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> <45DA5B5C.3040407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DA5F4D.2000909@gatech.edu> Patton Echols wrote: > Ok, this looks like something I can figure out. I appreciate it. Sure. You should just be able to follow the instructions, once you get used to emacs. > This is the sort of thing that I need to do in different forms > repeatedly. You'll probably want to see the emacs manual, especially http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html#Regexp-Search And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do > this stuff Definitely. Emacs and GNU/Linux in general can do way more than this. I'm still just feeling it out myself. , so I really appreciate your help. Means a lot more than just > this document . . . That means you too Michael G. Thanks Good luck. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From labradley at mindspring.com Tue Feb 20 02:52:32 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:52:32 -0600 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA6270.8010402@mindspring.com> NoOp wrote: > On 02/19/2007 05:40 PM, David Symons wrote: >> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >>> Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? >> Larry, the SeveasPackages link I gave you earlier will help you find >> one. For example it could lead you here: >> http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ >> >> You can either download the .deb files directly or follow the >> instructions at the top of that page to add the repository. >> >> Cheers, Dave. > > Those, and the following from ubuntu show 7.0: > > > Package vim > > * warty (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2.3: amd64 i386 powerpc > 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2: amd64 i386 powerpc > * hoary (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7.1: amd64 i386 powerpc > 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7: amd64 i386 powerpc > * breezy (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3: amd64 i386 powerpc > * dapper (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6: amd64 i386 powerpc > * edgy (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5: amd64 i386 powerpc > * feisty (editors): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor > 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu3: amd64 i386 powerpc > > http://www.vim.org/sources.php also shows 7.0, I can't find a 7.1. > > > > Thank you NoOP. I have bookmarked http://packages.ubuntu.com/ Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From labradley at mindspring.com Tue Feb 20 02:55:14 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:55:14 -0600 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA6312.9010206@mindspring.com> David Symons wrote: > On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >> Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? > > Larry, the SeveasPackages link I gave you earlier will help you find > one. For example it could lead you here: > http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ > > You can either download the .deb files directly or follow the > instructions at the top of that page to add the repository. > > Cheers, Dave. Assuming that I download a .deb file. How do I install it? Please pardon my ignorance - I'm new to apt-get and it's cousins. Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 20 03:06:24 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:06:24 -0800 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: <45DA6312.9010206@mindspring.com> References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> <45DA4BB7.6030501@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191740p2ba507t46769dbf16da0198@mail.gmail.com> <45DA6312.9010206@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On 02/19/2007 06:55 PM, Larry Alkoff wrote: > David Symons wrote: >> On 2/20/07, Larry Alkoff wrote: >>> Is there another repository I can try to find the latest vim? >> >> Larry, the SeveasPackages link I gave you earlier will help you find >> one. For example it could lead you here: >> http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ >> >> You can either download the .deb files directly or follow the >> instructions at the top of that page to add the repository. >> >> Cheers, Dave. > > > Assuming that I download a .deb file. > How do I install it? > > Please pardon my ignorance - I'm new to apt-get and it's cousins. > > Larry > > Have a look here: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install.2Funinstall_.deb_files http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install.2Funinstall_.deb_files The information just below will also show you how to convert rpm to deb files & also how to compile .deb files from source. You might want to bookmark these: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy From oozypal at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 04:18:29 2007 From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:18:29 +0300 Subject: Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out In-Reply-To: <45DA2718.50408@comcast.net> References: <299ffe0d0702181048k5b4c1cd5gbf70e8fbd3ae7dea@mail.gmail.com> <45DA2718.50408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <299ffe0d0702192018n38251817yf8c24b802f73c8db@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/07, Patton Echols wrote: > On 02/18/2007 10:48 AM, OOzy Pal wrote: > > Firefox Back/Forward/Reload/stop buttons are grayed out?? Any idea why? > > > > > Is it always like that? I have seen that behavior intermittently in > both linux and windoze. I believe it's a firefox bug. My solution > has been to switch tabs, (open a new one if necessary) and come back. > That seems to fix it. There's something else that worked that I can't > remember now; maybe a page reload. It is annoying, but not so much that > I don't just get on with life. Though now that you mention it, maybe I > should report it . . . (Hmmm, better document what has been happening . . .) > > PAtton > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > I solved the issue in a stupid way :). I moved ~/.mozilla/ to for example moz. I then restarted Firefox. It started ok like new. I then moved my extensions dir and .ini plus bookmarks to the new profile. Everything is ok now. -- OOzy Kubuntu-Edgy From a24061 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 19 14:06:52 2007 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:06:52 +0000 Subject: Recent problem with anacron cron.daily hanging. References: <1idoa4-42k.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Message-ID: On 2007-02-19, Georg Sauthoff wrote: > - Do you have looked at the log files under /var/log ? Perhaps this > helps to identify a reason. Well, by grepping the syslog file for anacron I've figured out that the first cron.daily not to work was the one that started on 15 Feb: Feb 14 07:50:40 bunsen anacron[19877]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (mailing output) Feb 14 07:50:40 bunsen anacron[19877]: Normal exit (1 job run) Feb 15 06:25:01 bunsen /USR/SBIN/CRON[14775]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily) Feb 15 07:30:01 bunsen /USR/SBIN/CRON[15693]: (root) CMD (test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null) Feb 15 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[15716]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2007-02-15 Feb 15 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[15716]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 5 min. Feb 15 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[15716]: Will run job `cron.weekly' in 10 min. Feb 15 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[15716]: Jobs will be executed sequentially Feb 15 07:35:02 bunsen anacron[15716]: Job `cron.daily' started Feb 15 07:35:02 bunsen anacron[15724]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2007-02-15 Feb 16 06:25:01 bunsen /USR/SBIN/CRON[7163]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily) Feb 16 07:30:01 bunsen /USR/SBIN/CRON[8081]: (root) CMD (test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null) Feb 16 07:30:01 bunsen anacron[8104]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2007-02-16 Feb 16 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[8104]: Job `cron.daily' locked by another anacron - skipping Feb 16 07:30:02 bunsen anacron[8104]: Job `cron.weekly' locked by another anacron - skipping but I can't find anything else that changed that day. > - Do you have set a mail alias for root?[1] Anacron mails output from jobs > (i.e. errors) to the root user. Yes, but the mails I've been getting just list the processes I know I had to interfere with to get cron.daily to finish: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: error running shared postrotate script for /var/log/apache2/*.log sh: line 1: 17938 Terminated /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam reload-log >/dev/null error: error running postrotate script for /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log error: error running shared postrotate script for /var/log/cups/*log error: error running postrotate script for /var/log/samba/log.smbd run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd exited because of uncaught signal 15 From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 05:03:25 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:03:25 -0500 Subject: sun-java5* install Message-ID: <1171947805.28760.123.camel@croatus> During the install of sun-java5*, I got this regarding the docs... Setting up sun-java5-doc (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ... This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the J2SDK documentation. You will need to go download one of the archives: jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip jdk-1_5_0-doc-ja.zip (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation). Please visit http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.html now and download. The file should be owned by root.root and be copied to /tmp. I'm going to download the zip file, but didn't see any instructions on what to do with it... does anyone know if there is a readme, install script, or something of that ilk in there? From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 05:56:15 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:56:15 -0500 Subject: [RESOLVED] Re: sun-java5* install In-Reply-To: <1171947805.28760.123.camel@croatus> References: <1171947805.28760.123.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171950975.28760.125.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 00:03 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > During the install of sun-java5*, I got this regarding the docs... > > Setting up sun-java5-doc (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ... > This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the > J2SDK documentation. You will need to go download one of the > archives: > > jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip jdk-1_5_0-doc-ja.zip > > (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation). > Please visit > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.html > > now and download. The file should be owned by root.root and be copied > to /tmp. > > I'm going to download the zip file, but didn't see any instructions on > what to do with it... does anyone know if there is a readme, install > script, or something of that ilk in there? Got it. You download the zip, put it in /tmp, and re-run the install. It works. > > > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 05:59:30 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:59:30 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) Message-ID: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my jdk. During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer script asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the system). I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate it. apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was installed, and a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in /usr/share/doc, so I don't think it's there. Does anyone know what location the installer might want? (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to where your jdk is installed and provide that path") From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 06:27:15 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:27:15 +0100 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Derek Broughton a écrit : > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> Larry Alkoff a écrit : > >>> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >>> >>> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >>> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >>> >>> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >>> repositories? >>> >> NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break >> your system. > > Oh, don't be such a wet blanket. It's not that serious. > Hi, This mailing list is for helping user by giving them advice and way to do things. You shouldn't tell someone to do something that dangerous (even if it's just in a few case). I sould warn people that when you do that kind of thing and mess up with your system , you can get no support, Debugging it will be next to impossible, and the last solution you will have is to reinstall and use your system cleanly this time. Since i am aware of Linux usage and I can debbug and administrate my system myself i could be able to do that sort of things but that isn't a reason to tell people to do so and be responsible of some inconvenience . From haim at babysnakes.org Tue Feb 20 06:27:49 2007 From: haim at babysnakes.org (Haim Ashkenazi) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:49 +0200 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my > jdk. > > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer script > asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the system). > > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate it. > apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was installed, and > a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in /usr/share/doc, so I > don't think it's there. > > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java virtual machines installed on your computer. you should probably make sure that the active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun studio. also, apt-cache is not the right tool to show installed files. you should either use the synopsis or "dpkg -L". Bye -- Haim From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 20 06:33:00 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:33:00 +1100 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <20070220173300.dc48e094.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:59:30 -0500 John Dangler wrote: [snip] > > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") > Try dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk | less I think you will find the files in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5* where * refers to your version. ( I used the apt-file utility to find that path - I don't have the jdk installed ) Peter From carsten at welcomes-you.com Tue Feb 20 06:56:32 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:56:32 +0100 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0702191659k775b307dg39657b0369c85c2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> <727fc2ee0702191659k775b307dg39657b0369c85c2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DA9BA0.70804@welcomes-you.com> User Iam wrote: > Ok > What exactly should I do here... > Make the directory 700????? Wouldn't help if the directory is owned by www-data. I think either move it out of the cgi-bin directory (standard path:/usr/lib/cgi-bin IIRC) to some place where the web server won't be able to run it. Don't understand me wrong, I think the situation now is much much better than in the past, where this was used twice to gain entry to a server of mine - and this was a few years ago. C From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 07:05:49 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:05:49 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 08:27 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . > > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my > > jdk. > > > > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer script > > asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the system). > > > > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate it. > > apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was installed, and > > a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in /usr/share/doc, so I > > don't think it's there. > > > > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything > > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to > > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") > just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java virtual > machines installed on your computer. you should probably make sure that the > active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun studio. root at croatus:/opt# update-java-alternatives -l java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun If I read this right, this shows the location of the java virtual machine (jvm). Is the jdk (developers kit) also located here? I would think that they would be different, but I could very well be wrong on that point. > > also, apt-cache is not the right tool to show installed files. you should > either use the synopsis or "dpkg -L". > > Bye > -- > Haim > > From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 07:09:50 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:09:50 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: <20070220173300.dc48e094.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <20070220173300.dc48e094.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1171955390.28760.142.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 17:33 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:59:30 -0500 > John Dangler wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything > > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to > > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") > > > Try dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk | less . . . /usr/share/doc/sun-java5-jdk . . . /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/jre . . . /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/bin . . . /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/lib Since all of this is in a dir labeled "jvm", I would think that it point s to the java virtual machine. Is that the same as the jdk (developers kit) ? > > I think you will find the files in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5* where * refers > to your version. ( I used the apt-file utility to find that path - I don't > have the jdk installed ) > > Peter > From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 07:43:55 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:43:55 +0100 Subject: lshw-gtk VS hal-device-manager Message-ID: Hi, I have recently discovered lshw and found it more intuitive than hal-device manager . what do you think of it ? Should this replace hal-device-manager ? lshw : http://www.flickr.com/photos/60765994 at N00/396197264 hal-device-manager : http://www.flickr.com/photos/60765994 at N00/396197240 From haim at babysnakes.org Tue Feb 20 07:59:26 2007 From: haim at babysnakes.org (Haim Ashkenazi) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:59:26 +0200 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 08:27 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> John Dangler wrote: >> >> > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . >> > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my >> > jdk. >> > >> > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer script >> > asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the system). >> > >> > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate >> > it. apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was >> > installed, and a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in >> > /usr/share/doc, so I don't think it's there. >> > >> > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? >> > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything >> > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to >> > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") >> just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java >> virtual machines installed on your computer. you should probably make >> sure that the active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun >> studio. > root at croatus:/opt# update-java-alternatives -l > java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun > > If I read this right, this shows the location of the java virtual > machine (jvm). Is the jdk (developers kit) also located here? > I would think that they would be different, but I could very well be > wrong on that point. If you've installed the sun-jdk package then this is the jdk. you can run the following command "ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac" to make sure you have javac (which is a part of the jdk, but not the jre). Bye -- Haim From vramnum10 at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 08:04:24 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:04:24 -0800 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <45DA9BA0.70804@welcomes-you.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> <727fc2ee0702191659k775b307dg39657b0369c85c2e@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9BA0.70804@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702200004o78d7803l1a6859d9028dae35@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/07, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > > User Iam wrote: > > > Ok > > What exactly should I do here... > > > Make the directory 700????? > > Wouldn't help if the directory is owned by www-data. > > I think either move it out of the cgi-bin directory (standard > path:/usr/lib/cgi-bin IIRC) to some place where the web server won't be > able to run it. Don't understand me wrong, I think the situation now is > much much better than in the past, where this was used twice to gain > entry to a server of mine - and this was a few years ago. > > C Thank YOU Will do User Iam -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derekmailbox at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 08:06:34 2007 From: derekmailbox at gmail.com (Derek) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:06:34 +0100 Subject: F-spot and portrait oriented photos. In-Reply-To: <1171755739.5474.14.camel@localhost> References: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> <1171755739.5474.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <159b320e0702200006g23ec0aaau1fb1760ba8b59c30@mail.gmail.com> Maybe one option is to configure F-Spot to handle the import when you just plug you camera in... Where do I configure which program handle the event? On 2/18/07, Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:03 +0100, Derek wrote: > > Anyone who knows why F-spot is not importing/displaying the portrait > > oriented photos? > > Yes. See this bug: > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/37972 > > Upshot: don't use gthumb to import your photos. You might be able to > recode them with imagemagick or something else to get f-spot to read > them... > > mike > > -- > Michael R. Head > http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ > http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 08:42:27 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:42:27 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 09:59 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 08:27 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > >> John Dangler wrote: > >> > >> > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . > >> > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my > >> > jdk. > >> > > >> > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer script > >> > asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the system). > >> > > >> > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate > >> > it. apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was > >> > installed, and a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in > >> > /usr/share/doc, so I don't think it's there. > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > >> > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say anything > >> > other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just navigate to > >> > where your jdk is installed and provide that path") > >> just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java > >> virtual machines installed on your computer. you should probably make > >> sure that the active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun > >> studio. > > root at croatus:/opt# update-java-alternatives -l > > java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun > > > > If I read this right, this shows the location of the java virtual > > machine (jvm). Is the jdk (developers kit) also located here? > > I would think that they would be different, but I could very well be > > wrong on that point. > If you've installed the sun-jdk package then this is the jdk. you can run > the following command "ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac" to make > sure you have javac (which is a part of the jdk, but not the jre). Yes, I do have javac (among others) there. So, for the sun installation, would I put the /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-sun/bin as the location of the jdk? > > Bye > -- > Haim > > From haim at babysnakes.org Tue Feb 20 08:46:21 2007 From: haim at babysnakes.org (Haim Ashkenazi) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:46:21 +0200 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 09:59 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> John Dangler wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 08:27 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> >> John Dangler wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . >> >> > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my >> >> > jdk. >> >> > >> >> > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer >> >> > script asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the >> >> > system). >> >> > >> >> > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate >> >> > it. apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was >> >> > installed, and a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in >> >> > /usr/share/doc, so I don't think it's there. >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? >> >> > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say >> >> > anything other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just >> >> > navigate to where your jdk is installed and provide that path") >> >> just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java >> >> virtual machines installed on your computer. you should probably make >> >> sure that the active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun >> >> studio. >> > root at croatus:/opt# update-java-alternatives -l >> > java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun >> > >> > If I read this right, this shows the location of the java virtual >> > machine (jvm). Is the jdk (developers kit) also located here? >> > I would think that they would be different, but I could very well be >> > wrong on that point. >> If you've installed the sun-jdk package then this is the jdk. you can run >> the following command "ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac" to make >> sure you have javac (which is a part of the jdk, but not the jre). > Yes, I do have javac (among others) there. So, for the sun > installation, would I put the /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-sun/bin as the > location of the jdk? no, you put /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun as the jdk location (without the bin). Bye -- Haim From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 08:50:31 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:50:31 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 09:59 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > >> John Dangler wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 08:27 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > >> >> John Dangler wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I'm trying to install Sun Studio 8.1 . > >> >> > I've run update-alternatives, and selected the sun java 1-5r11 as my > >> >> > jdk. > >> >> > > >> >> > During the first part of the install, the sun studio installer > >> >> > script asks for the location of the jdk (it doesn't find one on the > >> >> > system). > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm trying to find the location of the jdk, but can't seem to locate > >> >> > it. apt-cache show sun-java5-jdk doesn't tell me where it was > >> >> > installed, and a locate sun-java5-jdk shows 98% of the entries in > >> >> > /usr/share/doc, so I don't think it's there. > >> >> > > >> >> > Does anyone know what location the installer might want? > >> >> > (I've read through the installation docs, but they don't say > >> >> > anything other than the obvious -- "if the dialog shows no jdk, just > >> >> > navigate to where your jdk is installed and provide that path") > >> >> just run "update-java-alternatives -l" and you'll get a list of java > >> >> virtual machines installed on your computer. you should probably make > >> >> sure that the active one is the one from sun if you want to run sun > >> >> studio. > >> > root at croatus:/opt# update-java-alternatives -l > >> > java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun > >> > > >> > If I read this right, this shows the location of the java virtual > >> > machine (jvm). Is the jdk (developers kit) also located here? > >> > I would think that they would be different, but I could very well be > >> > wrong on that point. > >> If you've installed the sun-jdk package then this is the jdk. you can run > >> the following command "ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac" to make > >> sure you have javac (which is a part of the jdk, but not the jre). > > Yes, I do have javac (among others) there. So, for the sun > > installation, would I put the /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-sun/bin as the > > location of the jdk? > no, you put /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun as the jdk location (without the > bin). Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app that connects to a mysql db... > > Bye > -- > Haim > > From lists at olivermaunder.co.uk Tue Feb 20 08:55:07 2007 From: lists at olivermaunder.co.uk (Oliver Maunder) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:55:07 +0000 Subject: WLAN and Wireless router incompatible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/14/07, Michele Zarri wrote: > This is the sequence of events describing the problem I am experiencing > - The access point has WEP enabled and works ok under WinXP. > - Started the WLAN card in ubunto and everything worked (got an IP > address and could connect to the internet and download some packages > too). I can't comment on the specifics, but I bought a cheap Speex wireless router off eBay for my mum. It worked fine with my Dell laptop, but her Thinkpad never kept the connection up. I replaced the router with a Zyxel model, and everything works fine now. This was all under XP, so there should have been no driver issues. So yes - wireless devices can be incompatible with each other. As for which device is causing the problem - the USB adapter should be the cheapest to replace, so I'd try that first. Olly > - After a few minutes I stopped receiving packets from the access point. > - tried to restart the WLAN sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth 1 but > nothing happened > - Boot up in Winxp and could not get an IP address > - reset the access point and it worked again fine under winxp > - back to ubuntu and same story. Fine for 5 minutes then received > packets down to 0 > - tried several things (manual IP address, removing the WEP > "security", switch off and on the WLAN, reset it, inspected the > iwconfig...) > > Final note: I tried the WLAN running ubuntu on a public [famous > cellular operator name here] hotspot and it works fine, keeps the > connection up without a glitch. > > So my questions: > - Is this a known problem? > - any guess on which of the two devices (compaq W200 WLAN or D-Link > 524 wireless router) causes the problem? > > Any suggestion will be most welcome. > > Cheers, > > Michele > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From spamtrap at arumes.com Tue Feb 20 08:27:40 2007 From: spamtrap at arumes.com (Robert Spanjaard) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:27:40 +0100 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> <45DA5B5C.3040407@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:22:20 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: >> In Emacs: >> >> Bold: >> >> Alt-x replace-regex >> .*? RETURN >> RETURN >> >> Italics: >> >> Alt-x replace-regex >> \(.*?\) RETURN >> \1 RETURN >> >> If you have questions, you could reply, or try the >> help-gnu-emacs at gnu.org list >> (http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs) >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> >> > > Ok, this looks like something I can figure out. I appreciate it. > > This is the sort of thing that I need to do in different forms > repeatedly. And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do > this stuff, Ofcourse, in any editor that has search&replace, on _any_ OS, you can replace "" with "" and "" with "", and so on. And Emacs is ported to many systems as well, so I certainly wouldn't call this a Linux-attraction. :-) -- Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com From dlithgow at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 09:09:21 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:09:21 +0100 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz In-Reply-To: References: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> <4e8cc6b10702160613o74a70fd7x53477e5288cf9ddf@mail.gmail.com> <1171647640.15315.24.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Thanks all for your tips. As far as I can see 'metacity --replace' just refreshes the windows manager. Nothing in my session settings has anything to do with compiz, except metacity - but that's meant to be there for gnome unless I'm mistaken. I've had Beryl installed - but don't anymore - so it's not that that's giving me problems. So, no progress yet. Duncan From norman at littletank.org Tue Feb 20 10:07:34 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:07:34 +0000 Subject: unable to boot Message-ID: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> I have an old desktop machine which has used Ubuntu for more than 2 years and now I am happily using a new machine with Ubuntu. I decided to convert the old machine to Win 2k to use for games etc. So, I started set up and reformatted the HDD and the installation went as far as telling me that the computer would reboot. Computer closed down and then restarted and got as far as 'Error loading operating system' and stopped. I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to overcome this difficulty? Norman From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 10:23:55 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:23:55 +0100 Subject: [OT] unable to boot a new windows installation (Re: unable to boot) In-Reply-To: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: norman a écrit : > I have an old desktop machine which has used Ubuntu for more than 2 > years and now I am happily using a new machine with Ubuntu. I decided to > convert the old machine to Win 2k to use for games etc. So, I started > set up and reformatted the HDD and the installation went as far as > telling me that the computer would reboot. Computer closed down and then > restarted and got as far as 'Error loading operating system' and > stopped. > > I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to > convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to > overcome this difficulty? > > Norman > > Do you still have grub in the mbr ? From derekmailbox at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 10:44:13 2007 From: derekmailbox at gmail.com (Derek) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:44:13 +0100 Subject: F-spot and portrait oriented photos. In-Reply-To: <159b320e0702200006g23ec0aaau1fb1760ba8b59c30@mail.gmail.com> References: <159b320e0702170403n5911fc89t771801c471cdfcb1@mail.gmail.com> <1171755739.5474.14.camel@localhost> <159b320e0702200006g23ec0aaau1fb1760ba8b59c30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <159b320e0702200244k179ca194jf19ad4be8605b75@mail.gmail.com> I found that one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257576 I'll give it a try and tell you. On 2/20/07, Derek wrote: > > Maybe one option is to configure F-Spot to handle the import when you just > plug you camera in... Where do I configure which program handle the event? > > On 2/18/07, Michael R. Head wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:03 +0100, Derek wrote: > > > Anyone who knows why F-spot is not importing/displaying the portrait > > > oriented photos? > > > > Yes. See this bug: > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/37972 > > > > Upshot: don't use gthumb to import your photos. You might be able to > > recode them with imagemagick or something else to get f-spot to read > > them... > > > > mike > > > > -- > > Michael R. Head > > http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ > > http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rl5 at shinyblue.net Tue Feb 20 11:02:29 2007 From: rl5 at shinyblue.net (Rich Lott) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:02:29 +0000 Subject: USB device: "Safely Remove" not safe; not sync'ed? Message-ID: <200702201102.29376.rl5@shinyblue.net> Hi Edgy has a Safely Remove action in the context menu for removable usb media. However I've noticed that if I copy a large amount of data onto a usb1 device, choose Safely Remove immediately, then the icon disappears, the device says disconnected, yet the files are not copied and no error/information comes up. I'm worried about what state this leaves the file system in, is it dangerous? Is this a bug? Also, is there a way to call sync before indicating that a device is safe to remove? I don't want to have to mount the device(s) with the sync option because this gets v. slow to work with on a usb1 device. thanks, rich. From kristian at zimmer428.net Tue Feb 20 11:12:34 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:12:34 +0100 Subject: egdy -> feisty upgrade? Message-ID: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks; because of a couple of kernel-related troubles with edgy on my notebook I currently consider making a switch and try out feisty fawn. Usually, I'd just add the repositories to sources.list, do a dist-upgrade to wait and see. However, remembering that right that procedure ended up rather bad trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I wanted to ask people around here, first: Is dist-upgrade to Feisty a good idea, or should I rather go and try getting a new installation from scratch done? What experiences did you make so far? Thanks and bye, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF2teicxBAPOA1m6wRAguXAKCfUgvWgDa6CIWi/m79B+y2FjuDQgCeJshL 1rZgmRIZj+w1LhBO40RVTNs= =L+AD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 20 11:21:13 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:21:13 -0800 Subject: OT maybe: Looking for a tool or . . .? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2C8A.9060100@comcast.net> <45DA4A8B.1030700@gatech.edu> <45DA5B5C.3040407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DAD9A9.40807@comcast.net> On 02/20/2007 12:27 AM, Robert Spanjaard wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:22:20 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: > > >>> In Emacs: >>> >>> Bold: >>> >>> Alt-x replace-regex >>> .*? RETURN >>> RETURN >>> >>> Italics: >>> >>> Alt-x replace-regex >>> \(.*?\) RETURN >>> \1 RETURN >>> >>> If you have questions, you could reply, or try the >>> help-gnu-emacs at gnu.org list >>> (http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs) >>> >>> Matthew Flaschen >>> >>> >>> >> Ok, this looks like something I can figure out. I appreciate it. >> >> This is the sort of thing that I need to do in different forms >> repeatedly. And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do >> this stuff, >> > > Ofcourse, in any editor that has search&replace, on _any_ OS, you can > replace "" with "" and "" with "", and so on. > And Emacs is ported to many systems as well, so I certainly wouldn't call > this a Linux-attraction. :-) > > Errm, yeah. But the trick is replacing both tags AND everything between with "", regardless of how long it is. Not a trick that any word processor can do. I think IBM's "e" could do it, but I no longer have a copy. Never have seen a windows version of emacs, but I'll take your word for it. From haim at babysnakes.org Tue Feb 20 11:28:50 2007 From: haim at babysnakes.org (Haim Ashkenazi) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:28:50 +0200 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: [...] > Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. > I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... > Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as > possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app > that connects to a mysql db... any reason you're using sun studio and not netbeans (or eclipse)? Bye -- Haim From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 11:46:02 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:46:02 +0100 Subject: egdy -> feisty upgrade? In-Reply-To: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> References: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> Message-ID: Kristian Rink a écrit : > Folks; > > because of a couple of kernel-related troubles with edgy on my notebook > I currently consider making a switch and try out feisty fawn. Usually, > I'd just add the repositories to sources.list, do a dist-upgrade to > wait and see. However, remembering that right that procedure ended up > rather bad trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I wanted to ask > people around here, first: Is dist-upgrade to Feisty a good idea, or > should I rather go and try getting a new installation from scratch > done? What experiences did you make so far? > > Thanks and bye, > Kristian > Feisty is in development stage , using it is dangerous. Then, if you do not care about bugs and want to help improving Feisty, install it the way you want (upgrade or from scratch) . well i'll suggest you to install it from scratch next to you existing OS though. From a24061 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 20 11:44:52 2007 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:44:52 +0000 Subject: Recent problem with anacron cron.daily hanging. References: <1idoa4-42k.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Message-ID: On 2007-02-19, Adam Funk wrote: > A few days ago I started getting this strange problem: my cron.daily > job was never finishing, so the next day's job couldn't run and a lot > of the functions weren't getting run. I have to use a root shell in > xterm to kill the hanging process, then watch with `ps aux` to see > what hangs next, and so on. The hanging processes are mainly --- but > not only --- in logrotate postrotate scripts. I rebooted last night and cron.daily ran normally this morning. But I haven't figured out why this made a difference. From norman at littletank.org Tue Feb 20 12:08:35 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:08:35 +0000 Subject: [OT] unable to boot a new windows installation (Re: unable to boot) In-Reply-To: References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1171973315.4744.1.camel@localhost> < snip > > > I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to > > convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to > > overcome this difficulty? > Do you still have grub in the mbr ? > Excuse my ignorance but what is mbr and how do I remove grub if it is still there? Norman From larry at isp.com Tue Feb 20 12:26:23 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:26:23 -0600 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? Message-ID: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> I am looking for two dependence packages that are needed to run the Xastir program... Can anyone tell me if there is a way to search for Geotiff & Gdal/OGR from Ubuntu's list of packages, also they maybe spelled differently...Since I can not find them just maybe there are some Ham operators using Xastir that could also help me with this, any help would be appreciated...Thanks Larry -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Tue Feb 20 12:30:22 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:30:22 +0100 Subject: [OT] unable to boot a new windows installation (Re: unable to boot) In-Reply-To: <1171973315.4744.1.camel@localhost> References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> <1171973315.4744.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45DAE9DE.5030305@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 norman schrieb: > < snip > > >>> I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to >>> convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to >>> overcome this difficulty? > >> Do you still have grub in the mbr ? >> > Excuse my ignorance but what is mbr and how do I remove grub if it is still there? > > Norman > > MBR are the first bits on your hard drive. If you want to remove grub, you can boot with a windows CD and write fixmbr C:\ (or so)... And maybe you have to execute fixboot C:\ , too. If windows says, "XXX failed", maybe the bootflag is not set for this partition (gparted should be able to do that.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF2uneawVCzdc4h4IRAhcMAKCkA3F5HA4h3y0ybxbXZzl6TsxDzQCeNBr4 D9PvFnzi0uBk32SydrZ9SkM= =u3cN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From enzo.palumbo at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 13:41:39 2007 From: enzo.palumbo at gmail.com (enzo.palumbo) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:41:39 +0100 Subject: [OT][OT] unable to boot a new windows installation (Re: unable to boot) In-Reply-To: <45DAE9DE.5030305@gmx.de> References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> <1171973315.4744.1.camel@localhost> <45DAE9DE.5030305@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45DAFA93.7070408@gmail.com> Nicolai Spohrer ha scritto: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > norman schrieb: >> < snip > >> >>>> I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to >>>> convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to >>>> overcome this difficulty? >>> Do you still have grub in the mbr ? >>> maybe your pc has developed antibody for that kind of virus! :-) ... or from DOS boot disk fdisk /MBR Enzo From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Feb 20 13:55:11 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:55:11 +0200 Subject: GNU/Linux Advocacy Message-ID: Hello all, Just wanted to share something with ya'all: It seems since Micro$oft came out with they're new Vista with the outrageous minimum requirements, I am getting more and more inquires / questions and requests for information on making the switch to the better option: GNU/Linux. Of course I gladly answer and give out the CDs kindly provided by Canonical. So, finally, is there a reason to *thank* Mr. Bill Gates?.... :-) -- .:====================================================:. 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And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do >>> this stuff, >> >> Ofcourse, in any editor that has search&replace, on _any_ OS, you can >> replace "" with "" and "" with "", and so on. >> And Emacs is ported to many systems as well, so I certainly wouldn't call >> this a Linux-attraction. :-) > > Errm, yeah. But the trick is replacing both tags AND everything between > with "", regardless of how long it is. Not a trick that any word > processor can do. I think IBM's "e" could do it, but I no longer have a > copy. You're right. I misread/misunderstood the OP's intentions. I thought he only wanted to strip the tags, not the text between them. In this case, you need a search&replace with PCRE(-like) capabilities. > Never have seen a windows version of emacs, but I'll take your word for > it. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/faq2.html -- Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com From yaocharlesc at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 14:08:23 2007 From: yaocharlesc at gmail.com (Charles Yao) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:08:23 +0800 Subject: Servers Hardware Raid Message-ID: <509d63b70702200608u4b4eb7e0tda2c8932364f96f8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Can anyone recommend a server model with hardware raid? I was looking at the HPDL140G3 at the wiki but it seems that it uses software raid. Charles -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The file should be owned by root.root and be copied >> to /tmp. >> >> I'm going to download the zip file, but didn't see any instructions on >> what to do with it... does anyone know if there is a readme, install >> script, or something of that ilk in there? > Got it. You download the zip, put it in /tmp, and re-run the install. > It works. I've been fooled by this before - that "download and copy to /tmp" instruction seems to simple to be the whole thing :-) -- derek From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Feb 20 14:09:42 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:09:42 +0200 Subject: New Software Catalog? Message-ID: Hello all, I have noticed there is a new catalog forming for the IT OS apps. When will it be ready? Not all apps appear there and the "Install Now" icon isn't available in all of them... I think a small standard-sized screenshot would be nice too.... Keep up the great work! -- .:====================================================:. 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However, remembering that right that procedure ended up >> rather bad trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I wanted to ask >> people around here, first: Is dist-upgrade to Feisty a good idea, or >> should I rather go and try getting a new installation from scratch >> done? What experiences did you make so far? >> >> Thanks and bye, >> Kristian >> > Feisty is in development stage , using it is dangerous. It's way past the "dangerous" stage - it's merely "fairly hazardous" at this point :-) -- derek From carsten at welcomes-you.com Tue Feb 20 14:13:56 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:13:56 +0100 Subject: Servers Hardware Raid In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702200608u4b4eb7e0tda2c8932364f96f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702200608u4b4eb7e0tda2c8932364f96f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DB0224.6070204@welcomes-you.com> Charles Yao wrote: > Can anyone recommend a server model with hardware raid? I was looking at > the HPDL140G3 at the wiki but it seems that it uses software raid. Not a specific server model, but I can recommend Areca and 3Ware RAID-Controller. They both work fine with Linux (may need some kernel patching though) and there are even CLI programs to interact with the controller. Additional benefit: smartctl can be used to access the HDD healths through the controller. Also this page might be helpful: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html HTH Carsten From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 13:42:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:42:04 -0400 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <20070220173300.dc48e094.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1171955390.28760.142.camel@croatus> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 17:33 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > . > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08 > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/jre > . > . > . > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/bin > . > . > . > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/lib > > Since all of this is in a dir labeled "jvm", I would think that it point > s to the java virtual machine. Is that the same as the jdk (developers > kit) ? It's not the same (the vm provides the "java" program, the jdk provides the "javac" compiler), but the jdk seems to use the same directories as the jre: derek at othello:~$ dlocate javac sun-java5-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/man/man1/javac.1.gz sun-java5-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/man/ja/man1/javac.1.gz sun-java5-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/bin/javac sun-java6-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/man/man1/javac.1.gz sun-java6-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/man/ja/man1/javac.1.gz sun-java6-jdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/bin/javac -- derek From rkimber at ntlworld.com Tue Feb 20 14:15:38 2007 From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:15:38 +0000 Subject: egdy -> feisty upgrade? In-Reply-To: References: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> Message-ID: <20070220141538.7a8ce1f6.rkimber@ntlworld.com> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:46:02 +0100 Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Feisty is in development stage , using it is dangerous. > > Then, if you do not care about bugs and want to help improving > Feisty, install it the way you want (upgrade or from scratch) . well > i'll suggest you to install it from scratch next to you existing OS > though. "Dangerous" is perhaps a bit strong. It seems mostly OK on my laptop, though I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I don't know what kind of hardware you have, but be aware that bcm43xx wireless support is broken. - Richard. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ From admin at greenleecp.com Tue Feb 20 14:18:52 2007 From: admin at greenleecp.com (Charles Yao) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:18:52 +0800 Subject: Servers Hardware Raid In-Reply-To: <45DB0224.6070204@welcomes-you.com> References: <509d63b70702200608u4b4eb7e0tda2c8932364f96f8@mail.gmail.com> <45DB0224.6070204@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <509d63b70702200618u791e742cnabcb10c81962daba@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/07, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > > Charles Yao wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a server model with hardware raid? I was looking at > > the HPDL140G3 at the wiki but it seems that it uses software raid. > > Not a specific server model, but I can recommend Areca and 3Ware > RAID-Controller. They both work fine with Linux (may need some kernel > patching though) and there are even CLI programs to interact with the > controller. Additional benefit: smartctl can be used to access the HDD > healths through the controller. > > Also this page might be helpful: > > http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html > > HTH > > Carsten > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Thanks Carsten. -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 13:55:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:55:02 -0400 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <6f1a4380702191546l3a4ff031o511d35e30fbf86f@mail.gmail.com> <45DA3ABC.406@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Derek Broughton a écrit : >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> >>> Larry Alkoff a écrit : >> >>>> I'd be very happy to just get the Edgy version of vim onto Dapper. >>>> >>>> If I knew how to find the repository that had vim for Edgy, I'd just >>>> add that temporarily to my sources.list. >>>> >>>> How can I easily find where the vim package is in the list of Edgy >>>> repositories? >>>> >>> NEVER DO THAT ! For the sake of your computer. you're going to break >>> your system. >> >> Oh, don't be such a wet blanket. It's not that serious. > > This mailing list is for helping user by giving them advice and way to > do things. You shouldn't tell someone to do something that dangerous > (even if it's just in a few case). It's not THAT dangerous. The Debian packaging system is pretty robust. If doing this from Edgy to Feisty, it would be mildly hazardous, because not all of the Feisty packages are guaranteed to work. The worst that's going to happen with an attempt to upgrade a single package from Dapper to Edgy is that you'll be told it's going to update your entire Gnome (or KDE) desktop to Edgy. When you see it wanting to update 300 packages, you do _not_ respond "Yes" to the prompt! Even if you do, you now have an essentially Edgy system, and you may as well continue with a full upgrade. > I sould warn people that when you do that kind of thing and mess up with > your system , you can get no support, Debugging it will be next to > impossible, and the last solution you will have is to reinstall and use > your system cleanly this time. Yes you can get exactly the sort of support you normally get here. Some helpful, some not. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 13:45:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:45:28 -0400 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > >> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > [...] >> Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. >> I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... >> Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as >> possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app >> that connects to a mysql db... > any reason you're using sun studio and not netbeans (or eclipse)? Is there an essential difference between Sun Studio and Netbeans? I thought Sun Studio was just an extension of Netbeans. As for Eclipse, well I keep trying it and keep preferring my JDeveloper. -- derek From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 14:33:51 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:51 +0100 Subject: GNU/Linux Advocacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Amichai Rotman a écrit : > Hello all, > > Just wanted to share something with ya'all: > > It seems since Micro$oft came out with they're new Vista with the > outrageous minimum requirements, I am getting more and more inquires / > questions and requests for information on making the switch to the > better option: GNU/Linux. > > Of course I gladly answer and give out the CDs kindly provided by Canonical. > > So, finally, is there a reason to *thank* Mr. Bill Gates?.... > > > :-) > > -- > .:====================================================:. > > Amichai Rotman > Yep. I think so :) We should thank him. I think Microsoft made a big mistake to create a so expensive ( as for minimum requirement and the price of the OS ) OS. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 14:13:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:13:20 -0400 Subject: lshw-gtk VS hal-device-manager References: Message-ID: <29cra4-fb3.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Hi, > > I have recently discovered lshw and found it more intuitive than > hal-device manager . what do you think of it ? Should this replace > hal-device-manager ? > > lshw : http://www.flickr.com/photos/60765994 at N00/396197264 Odd. lshw on my system is a console program! lshw-gtk perhaps? > > hal-device-manager : http://www.flickr.com/photos/60765994 at N00/396197240 It certainly shouldn't _replace_ hal-device-manager. They're not reporting the same things - lshw is getting the information (I guess) from directly querying the hardware. hal-device-manager queries hal. hal is what you need in userland - I've used it to help writing udev rules. lshw may well be useful for debugging if you have a device that hal doesn't even recognize. -- derek From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue Feb 20 14:37:27 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:37:27 -0500 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200702200937.27319.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Tuesday 20 February 2007 08:55, Derek Broughton wrote: > It's not THAT dangerous. The Debian packaging system is pretty robust. If > doing this from Edgy to Feisty, it would be mildly hazardous, because not > all of the Feisty packages are guaranteed to work. The worst that's going > to happen with an attempt to upgrade a single package from Dapper to Edgy > is that you'll be told it's going to update your entire Gnome (or KDE) > desktop to Edgy. When you see it wanting to update 300 packages, you do > _not_ respond "Yes" to the prompt! Even if you do, you now have an > essentially Edgy system, and you may as well continue with a full upgrade. Not true. Packages for Dapper and Edgy (and Feisty for that matter) are all compiled against different versions of various libraries. As long as the interface with the libraries is unchanged and the library behavior is consistent, your analysis is correct. The trick comes when this is not the case. Even if the package installs and appears to work initially, there is no guarantee that it won't fail is some subtle or unfortunate way in the future. Binary compatibility is not guaranteed between releases. The safest way to do this is download the source package, build your own .deb file locally and install that. Scott K From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Tue Feb 20 14:52:31 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:52:31 -0600 Subject: getting back Gnome after compiz In-Reply-To: References: <1171631594.5492.13.camel@localhost> <4e8cc6b10702160613o74a70fd7x53477e5288cf9ddf@mail.gmail.com> <1171647640.15315.24.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070220085231.0e068608@WizardsTower> "Duncan Lithgow" said: > Thanks all for your tips. > > As far as I can see 'metacity --replace' just refreshes the windows > manager. > > Nothing in my session settings has anything to do with compiz, except > metacity - but that's meant to be there for gnome unless I'm mistaken. > > I've had Beryl installed - but don't anymore - so it's not that that's > giving me problems. > > So, no progress yet. > > Duncan > I haven't had to use it since Feisty but always worked for me. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From norman at littletank.org Tue Feb 20 15:02:43 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:02:43 +0000 Subject: [OT][OT] unable to boot a new windows installation (Re: unable to boot) In-Reply-To: <45DAFA93.7070408@gmail.com> References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> <1171973315.4744.1.camel@localhost> <45DAE9DE.5030305@gmx.de> <45DAFA93.7070408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1171983763.7204.4.camel@localhost> > or from DOS boot disk > fdisk /MBR Thank you all for your friendly help and advice. I overcame the problem by first reloading Ubuntu just to be sure there were no hardware problems. Then, acting on advice from my son, I opened a terminal and entered:- sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 Then proceeded with the win2k set up disc. All went well and the machine is now in its final set up stages. Norman From haim at babysnakes.org Tue Feb 20 15:09:31 2007 From: haim at babysnakes.org (Haim Ashkenazi) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:09:31 +0200 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > >> John Dangler wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> [...] >>> Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. >>> I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... >>> Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as >>> possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app >>> that connects to a mysql db... >> any reason you're using sun studio and not netbeans (or eclipse)? > > Is there an essential difference between Sun Studio and Netbeans? I > thought Sun Studio was just an extension of Netbeans. AFAIK sun donated the code of sun studio enterprise to netbeans (which is open source), and all further development is done in netbeans (but I could be completely wrong here, it's just something I think I've read somewhere). I'm almost sure that netbeans supports much more technologies then sun studio (either in the core installation or through plugins). Bye -- Haim From rkimber at ntlworld.com Tue Feb 20 15:31:37 2007 From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:31:37 +0000 Subject: scrollkeeper error messages Message-ID: <20070220153137.e8c4d047.rkimber@ntlworld.com> Since upgrading to Edgy, I have started receiving error messages from scrollkeeper along the lines of:- ///usr/share/gnome/help/contribute/C/contribute.xml:84: parser error : Entity 'irc-server' not defined &irc-server; ///usr/share/gnome/help/packagingguide/C/packagingguide.xml:9: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome/help/packagingguide/pg-common.ent" %pg-common; /usr/share/gnome/help/packagingguide/C/getting_started.xml:142: parser error : Entity 'p.u.c' not defined .deb (from &p.u.c;) from the /usr/share/gnome/help/packagingguide/C/basic.xml:9: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome/help/packagingguide/pg-common.ent" %pg-common; /usr/share/gnome/help/serverguide/C/introduction.xml:7: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome/help/libs/generic.ent" %genericent; /usr/share/gnome/help/serverguide/ru/introduction.xml:19: parser error : Entity 'sg-title' not defined Welcome to the &ubuntu; &sg-title;! And others Any suggestions as to what is wrong? - Richard -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ From lists at olivermaunder.co.uk Tue Feb 20 16:16:29 2007 From: lists at olivermaunder.co.uk (Oliver Maunder) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:16:29 +0000 Subject: Intel Wireless card support - any good? Message-ID: Which mini-PCI wireless card should I get? I'm giving up on trying to get the wireless card in my laptop working. I've got a Dell Inspiron 1300, with a Broadcom 4318. I've made a few half-hearted efforts to get it working properly, but the support really isn't that good. After another failed attempt (using Feisty this time) I realised it would be a lot easier if I just got a new mini-PCI card that *was* supported. Ideally, I want something that's automatically detected and configured by Feisty (yeah - I'm lazy), and supports WPA. There are some cheap Intel 2200 and 2915 cards on eBay. Are these good options? As they've got an active driver under development, and supported by Intel it's got to be a better bet than my Broadcom piece of *****! Thanks for your help Olly From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Tue Feb 20 16:19:28 2007 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:19:28 +0000 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? In-Reply-To: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> References: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> Message-ID: <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (20/02/07 06:26), larry wrote: > Xastir program... > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to search for Geotiff & Gdal/OGR > from Ubuntu's list of packages, also they maybe spelled > differently...Since I can not find them just maybe there are some Ham > operators using Xastir that could also help me with this, any help would > be appreciated...Thanks I'm not currently booted into Ubuntu but in debian: ~$ apt-cache search geotiff gdal-bin - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library - Utility programs libgdal-doc - Documentation for the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library libgdal1-1.3.2 - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library libgdal1-1.3.2-dev - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library - Development files libimage-exiftool-perl - Library and program to read and write meta information in multimedia files python-gdal - Python bindings to the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library qgis - Geographic Information System (GIS) You might try the same with Ubuntu but you may need to add universe/multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Synaptic has a GUI interface to expanding your sources. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From sam.thurston at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 16:33:42 2007 From: sam.thurston at gmail.com (Samuel Thurston, III) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:33:42 -0600 Subject: Intel Wireless card support - any good? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e8cc6b10702200833u1df81c37x21300d0d5f33840b@mail.gmail.com> intel is friendly with open source. most of their cards Just Work. On 2/20/07, Oliver Maunder wrote: > Which mini-PCI wireless card should I get? > > I'm giving up on trying to get the wireless card in my laptop working. > I've got a Dell Inspiron 1300, with a Broadcom 4318. I've made a few > half-hearted efforts to get it working properly, but the support > really isn't that good. > > After another failed attempt (using Feisty this time) I realised it > would be a lot easier if I just got a new mini-PCI card that *was* > supported. > > Ideally, I want something that's automatically detected and configured > by Feisty (yeah - I'm lazy), and supports WPA. > > There are some cheap Intel 2200 and 2915 cards on eBay. Are these good > options? As they've got an active driver under development, and > supported by Intel it's got to be a better bet than my Broadcom piece > of *****! > > Thanks for your help > > Olly > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From durahman at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 16:51:07 2007 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:51:07 -0600 Subject: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper Message-ID: <1365ade30702200851l68ab982r2e50c11845f737bd@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, I try to install xubuntu dapper on my old computer, celeron 333, ram 128, and s3trio 3d vga card. From live cd i just can get resolution at 640x480. The desktop is too big so i can not see dialog box completly when i try to install it to my hdd so it's hard to me to install it to my hdd. I have try several option to make resolution bigger when start ubuntu live cd but still not work.. I try to change resolution. But it can not change. That is the only resolution avalable. Please help me to overcome that situation so that i can install xubuntu from live cd. Thanks in advance -- Wasalam, Durahman ===================== http://durahman.blogspot.com/ From DaveM at Mich.Com Tue Feb 20 16:55:34 2007 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:55:34 -0500 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series Message-ID: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using Ubuntu v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. I am new at this so maybe I am looking at the wrong device? I assume it should be /dev/sda ? How do I go about getting it to mount automatically when I insert a cd? I am also trying to use it with GRip but it is not working. I have GRip set to use /dev/sda I read about using "hotplug" but do not see that listed in synaptic. Any suggestions? -------------------------------------------------------------- $ ls -l /dev/sda brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 0 2007-02-20 10:16 /dev/sda -------------------------------------------------------------- $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.15-28-386 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33 Using libscg version 'debian-0.8debian2'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (debian-0.8debian2 '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). scsibus6: 6,0,0 600) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 8200 ' '1.0f' Removable CD-ROM 6,1,0 601) * 6,2,0 602) * 6,3,0 603) * 6,4,0 604) * 6,5,0 605) * 6,6,0 606) * 6,7,0 607) *  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- usbview: HP Mesa Manufacturer: Hewlett Packard Speed: 12Mb/s (full) USB Version: 1.00 Device Class: 00(>ifc ) Device Subclass: 00 Device Protocol: 00 Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 16 Number of Configurations: 1 Vendor Id: 03f0 Product Id: 0207 Revision Number: 0.01 Config Number: 1 Number of Interfaces: 1 Attributes: 40 MaxPower Needed: 0mA Interface Number: 0 Name: usb-storage Alternate Number: 0 Class: ff(vend.) Sub Class: 1 Protocol: 0 Number of Endpoints: 3 Endpoint Address: 81 Direction: in Attribute: 3 Type: Int. Max Packet Size: 4 Interval: 5ms Endpoint Address: 82 Direction: in Attribute: 2 Type: Bulk Max Packet Size: 64 Interval: 0ms Endpoint Address: 03 Direction: out Attribute: 2 Type: Bulk Max Packet Size: 64 Interval: 0msh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are some examples of what I am seeing with dmesg as I plug the drive in with various types of media in the drive. dmesg with no disk in the drive: [17513082.108000] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 [17513086.368000] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [17513086.372000] usb-storage: device found at 6 [17513086.372000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [17513091.400000] Vendor: Model: Rev: [17513091.400000] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 [17513091.908000] sda: Spinning up disk....<5>sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda [17513093.372000] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [17513093.388000] usb-storage: device scan complete dmesg with cdda (audio cd) in the drive: [17513632.476000] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 [17513636.736000] scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [17513636.740000] usb-storage: device found at 7 [17513636.740000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [17513641.768000] Vendor: Model: Rev: [17513641.768000] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 [17513642.308000] sda: Spinning up disk.....ready [17513646.072000] sda : sector size 0 reported, assuming 512. [17513646.072000] SCSI device sda: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) [17513646.072000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through [17513646.124000] sda : sector size 0 reported, assuming 512. [17513646.124000] SCSI device sda: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) [17513646.124000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through [17513646.124000] sda:end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.516000] printk: 17 messages suppressed. [17513646.516000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.572000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.572000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.572000] unable to read partition table [17513646.572000] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda [17513646.572000] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [17513646.584000] usb-storage: device scan complete [17513646.636000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.636000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.692000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.692000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.764000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.764000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.820000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.820000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.872000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.872000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.928000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.928000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513646.996000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513646.996000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513647.052000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.052000] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [17513647.104000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.164000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.216000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.272000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.324000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.380000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.448000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.504000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.556000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.612000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.664000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.720000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.776000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.828000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.900000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513647.956000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [17513648.008000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 dmesg with Joliet cd (data cd-rw) in the drive: [17513826.768000] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 8 [17513831.032000] scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [17513831.032000] usb-storage: device found at 8 [17513831.032000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [17513836.060000] Vendor: Model: Rev: [17513836.060000] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 [17513836.600000] sda: Spinning up disk.....ready [17513840.064000] sda : sector size 0 reported, assuming 512. [17513840.064000] SCSI device sda: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) [17513840.064000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through [17513840.116000] sda : sector size 0 reported, assuming 512. [17513840.116000] SCSI device sda: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) [17513840.116000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through [17513840.116000] sda: unknown partition table [17513840.172000] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda [17513840.172000] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [17513840.196000] usb-storage: device scan complete ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Inter-networked computers give you freedom. The "Trusted Computing Platform" could take that freedom away. http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php From castelao.listas at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 17:01:22 2007 From: castelao.listas at gmail.com (Jorge Castelao) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:01:22 +0100 Subject: Intel Wireless card support - any good? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1171990882.5892.4.camel@zeus> El mar, 20-02-2007 a las 16:16 +0000, Oliver Maunder escribió: > Which mini-PCI wireless card should I get? > > I'm giving up on trying to get the wireless card in my laptop working. > I've got a Dell Inspiron 1300, with a Broadcom 4318. I've made a few > half-hearted efforts to get it working properly, but the support > really isn't that good. > > After another failed attempt (using Feisty this time) I realised it > would be a lot easier if I just got a new mini-PCI card that *was* > supported. > > Ideally, I want something that's automatically detected and configured > by Feisty (yeah - I'm lazy), and supports WPA. > > There are some cheap Intel 2200 and 2915 cards on eBay. Are these good > options? As they've got an active driver under development, and > supported by Intel it's got to be a better bet than my Broadcom piece > of *****! > I have an Intel Pro 2200BG working properly out of the box with Ubuntu Edgy. > ----- Jorge Castelao castelao.listas at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mensaje firmado con GnuPG. Clave pública: http://pgp.mit.edu ID: 0x14EB01DC Huella: 4467 6464 CF06 E3AA 4C88 E504 7A8C 04B6 14EB 01DC ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente URL: From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Feb 20 17:09:04 2007 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:09:04 -0500 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> References: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <1171991344.11500.1.camel@FUN.ncat.edu> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:55 -0500, Dave M wrote: > I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using Ubuntu > v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. The last Linux to work well with these drives was 2.6.10, which was available in Ubuntu Hoary (5.04). Thanks, Daniel Chen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Carson ----- Original Message ---- From: Oliver Maunder To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:16:29 AM Subject: Intel Wireless card support - any good? Which mini-PCI wireless card should I get? I'm giving up on trying to get the wireless card in my laptop working. I've got a Dell Inspiron 1300, with a Broadcom 4318. I've made a few half-hearted efforts to get it working properly, but the support really isn't that good. After another failed attempt (using Feisty this time) I realised it would be a lot easier if I just got a new mini-PCI card that *was* supported. Ideally, I want something that's automatically detected and configured by Feisty (yeah - I'm lazy), and supports WPA. There are some cheap Intel 2200 and 2915 cards on eBay. Are these good options? As they've got an active driver under development, and supported by Intel it's got to be a better bet than my Broadcom piece of *****! 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In-Reply-To: <10303.60906.qm@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <10303.60906.qm@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. It sounds like an Intel card will be a lot easier. On 2/20/07, Carson Wilcox wrote: > > Just as an aside to this, can anyone give me any pointers on how to get WPA > to work on Dapper, I've had no luck with this at all. > I think it depends whether your wifi drivers support WPA. I followed all the pointers and howtos with the Broadcom card, but never managed to get WPA working. Olly From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 18:20:45 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:20:45 +0200 Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00702201020p725e892bw32e455c992b09dbb@mail.gmail.com> On 19/02/07, Ouattara Aziz wrote: > Hi, > > I found out that Dell is thinking about that : > > http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/61771 > > Let's help them think about it :) . please promote that idea by clicking > on the Promote button next to the title. > > Cheers :) > > The site was slow to load for me as well, on a university cable line, but only for the first page. The rest of the pages loaded fine. Note that this site has nothing to do with dell. It's a Dell fan site, nothing more. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/215/uncle_kracker.html http://english-lyrics.com From idtest at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 18:27:53 2007 From: idtest at gmail.com (Dmitrij Ilchenko) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:27:53 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem Message-ID: Hi. I can't figure out how to solve the following problem: I can't switch through keyboard layouts using left ctrl+shift/alt+shift pair of keys, though the right keys work fine. I've tried configuring xorg manually, setting grp:ctrl_shift_toggle option. I want to have 3 layouts installed and want to switch through them like on windows. I can't tell exactly, byt it seems that the problem appears after i run a keyboard indication applet in Gnome. Using Edgy, 6.10. Does anyone has the same problem or has ideas, how to solve this or at least which way to go? P.S. I tried different display managers (gdm/kdm), different desktop environments (gnome/kde/xfce) - stil no luck. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 18:19:06 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:19:06 -0400 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <200702200937.27319.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday 20 February 2007 08:55, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> It's not THAT dangerous. The Debian packaging system is pretty robust. >> If doing this from Edgy to Feisty, it would be mildly hazardous, because >> not >> all of the Feisty packages are guaranteed to work. The worst that's >> going to happen with an attempt to upgrade a single package from Dapper >> to Edgy is that you'll be told it's going to update your entire Gnome (or >> KDE) >> desktop to Edgy. When you see it wanting to update 300 packages, you do >> _not_ respond "Yes" to the prompt! Even if you do, you now have an >> essentially Edgy system, and you may as well continue with a full >> upgrade. > > Not true. Generally true. > Packages for Dapper and Edgy (and Feisty for that matter) are > all compiled against different versions of various libraries. They certainly are. > As long as the > interface with the libraries is unchanged and the library behavior is > consistent, your analysis is correct. Even if the interface is _not_ consistent, as long as the package dependencies are correct (ie, it only depends on versions with which it will work!) this should not be a problem. Admittedly, there are times when packages don't have all their dependencies correct (for instance, kdar in edgy depends on a library only available in dapper), but they still shouldn't break your system, unless they actually start replacing libraries that you need. > > The safest way to do this is download the source package, build your own > .deb file locally and install that. That's always safe, but beyond the requirements of many. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 18:31:38 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:31:38 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702201031y2e459cfbo3612c4bb98ef8cd3@mail.gmail.com> On 20/02/07, Dmitrij Ilchenko wrote: > Hi. > I can't figure out how to solve the following problem: > I can't switch through keyboard layouts using left > ctrl+shift/alt+shift pair of keys, though the right keys work fine. > I've tried configuring xorg manually, setting grp:ctrl_shift_toggle > option. I want to have 3 layouts installed and want to switch through > them like on windows. > I can't tell exactly, byt it seems that the problem appears after i > run a keyboard indication applet in Gnome. > Using Edgy, 6.10. > Does anyone has the same problem or has ideas, how to solve this or at > least which way to go? > P.S. I tried different display managers (gdm/kdm), different desktop > environments (gnome/kde/xfce) - stil no luck. > You have this problem with both KDE and Gnome? Have you tried a different keyboard? In my KDE installation, shift-space switches languages. It's definable: Kcontrol->Languages and Disability->Keyboard Layouts. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_are_the_advantages_of_lcd_monitors.html http://cabab.com From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Tue Feb 20 18:32:31 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:32:31 -0600 Subject: Dell has made a move References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> <880dece00702201020p725e892bw32e455c992b09dbb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <015901c7551d$7c2bb440$6400e40a@stellaluna> http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/61771 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Note that this site has nothing to do with dell. It's a Dell fan site, > nothing more. I think that the idea is from a fan, but the site is owned by Dell. The domain is registered to Dell. Dave Dave Grundgeiger CodeNouveau, LLC Develop .NET Software with Open-Source Tools http://www.codenouveau.com From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 18:19:55 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:19:55 -0400 Subject: lshw-gtk VS hal-device-manager References: <29cra4-fb3.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have recently discovered lshw and found it more intuitive than >> hal-device manager . what do you think of it ? Should this replace >> hal-device-manager ? >> >> lshw : http://www.flickr.com/photos/60765994 at N00/396197264 > > Odd. lshw on my system is a console program! lshw-gtk perhaps? Oops. Sorry about that - it would have helped if I'd read the "Subject" line :-) -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 18:37:30 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:37:30 +0200 Subject: New Software Catalog? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702201037v527b10c7x979142a3c4cde6ca@mail.gmail.com> On 20/02/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hello all, > > I have noticed there is a new catalog forming for the IT OS apps. > > When will it be ready? Not all apps appear there and the "Install Now" icon > isn't available in all of them... > > I think a small standard-sized screenshot would be nice too.... > > Keep up the great work! > What are you referring to? Something on the iglu site? I don't see it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/web_browser.html http://dotancohen.com/terriblereferrer/index.php From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Feb 20 18:21:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:21:35 -0400 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> Message-ID: Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> >>> John Dangler wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >>> [...] >>>> Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. >>>> I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... >>>> Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as >>>> possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app >>>> that connects to a mysql db... >>> any reason you're using sun studio and not netbeans (or eclipse)? >> >> Is there an essential difference between Sun Studio and Netbeans? I >> thought Sun Studio was just an extension of Netbeans. > AFAIK sun donated the code of sun studio enterprise to netbeans (which is > open source), and all further development is done in netbeans (but I could > be completely wrong here, it's just something I think I've read > somewhere). I'm almost sure that netbeans supports much more technologies > then sun studio (either in the core installation or through plugins). Ah - in which case I had it backwards. I know Sun donated the code for Netbeans, and I thought at one point they'd completely decided to drop Sun Studio, but wasn't clear on the relationship between them. -- derek From spam at buebo.de Tue Feb 20 18:41:30 2007 From: spam at buebo.de (Felix 'buebo' Kakrow) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:41:30 +0100 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <45D63CD6.8050304@gatech.edu> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> <45D63CD6.8050304@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070220184130.GA12246@localdomain> Am 17.02.07 00:23 schrieb Matthew Flaschen : > Even easier. Just open up the psuedo-url: > > fonts:///System/ > > and drag the fonts in. > Or just copy them into ~/.fonts/ which is afaik just the directory the above pseudo-url opens. -- :wq -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Feb 20 18:43:53 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:43:53 +0100 Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: <015901c7551d$7c2bb440$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> <880dece00702201020p725e892bw32e455c992b09dbb@mail.gmail.com> <015901c7551d$7c2bb440$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <20070220194353.b37df8de.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Dave Grundgeiger" wrote: > > Note that this site has nothing to do with dell. It's a Dell fan site, > > nothing more. As has just been said, the site is indeed hosted by Dell. Also, if you just click on the "ideas in action" tab near the top, it will say that, I quote : ******** Dell IdeaStorm launched on Friday, February 16. Dell employees are monitoring IdeaStorm to gauge which ideas are most important and most relevant to you. And we'll share those ideas throughout our organization to trigger new thoughts about how we evolve as a company. As your ideas begin to pour in, we will use this page to provide updates on ideas that Dell is considering. We'll also show you how your ideas are being put into action at Dell over time. Please check back to see your ideas in action. ******** That doesn't leave much ambiguity to me ! So, this poll is no gadget, so everybody, make sure you vote ! :o) -- Vince From larry at isp.com Tue Feb 20 18:42:14 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:42:14 -0600 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? In-Reply-To: <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> Clive Menzies wrote: > On (20/02/07 06:26), larry wrote: > >> Xastir program... >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to search for Geotiff & Gdal/OGR >> from Ubuntu's list of packages, also they maybe spelled >> differently...Since I can not find them just maybe there are some Ham >> operators using Xastir that could also help me with this, any help would >> be appreciated...Thanks >> > > I'm not currently booted into Ubuntu but in debian: > ~$ apt-cache search geotiff > gdal-bin - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library - Utility programs > libgdal-doc - Documentation for the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library > libgdal1-1.3.2 - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library > libgdal1-1.3.2-dev - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library - Development > files > libimage-exiftool-perl - Library and program to read and write meta > information in multimedia files > python-gdal - Python bindings to the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library > qgis - Geographic Information System (GIS) > > You might try the same with Ubuntu but you may need to add > universe/multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Synaptic has a GUI > interface to expanding your sources. > > Regards > > Clive > > Hello Clive, I did try apt-cache search geotiff, and it gave me what you had listed...So I did an apt-get install on eachone, and it told me that I already have the latest version... But yet when I try too compile xastir, it shows that I am still missing Geotiff & Gdal... So thanks for the help, and I'll keep working on it... Larry -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Tue Feb 20 18:49:20 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:49:20 +0100 Subject: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper In-Reply-To: <1365ade30702200851l68ab982r2e50c11845f737bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1365ade30702200851l68ab982r2e50c11845f737bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DB42B0.5000907@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 maman durahman schrieb: > Dear All, > > I try to install xubuntu dapper on my old computer, celeron 333, ram > 128, and s3trio 3d vga card. From live cd i just can get resolution at > 640x480. The desktop is too big so i can not see dialog box completly > when i try to install it to my hdd so it's hard to me to install it to > my hdd. I have try several option to make resolution bigger when start > ubuntu live cd but still not work.. I try to change resolution. But it > can not change. That is the only resolution avalable. > > Please help me to overcome that situation so that i can install > xubuntu from live cd. Thanks in advance > > I had the same problem with with Ubuntu. There was no really good solution, but you can right-click on the window in the panel and MOVE the window where you want it. I am not absolutely sure if Xubuntu is able to do that, too, but I think so (don't really know the xubuntu panel...). Greetings, hop that helps -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF20KwawVCzdc4h4IRApddAJ4uZpUN1x7SZdtTlsnmHH43KmAU/QCfUR5q 4KhC+/WPQcZ9VTHAdMuzJdk= =i/eu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 20 18:50:49 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:50:49 -0500 Subject: Java ide installation (Sun) In-Reply-To: References: <1171951170.28760.130.camel@croatus> <1171955149.28760.137.camel@croatus> <1171960947.28760.145.camel@croatus> <1171961432.28760.155.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1171997449.28760.163.camel@croatus> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 13:28 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > John Dangler wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:46 +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > [...] > > Well, it seems to have liked it... it's installing files at the moment. > > I'll let you know in a few minutes if it works or not... > > Thanks for the help with this. I need to get it running as soon as > > possible. I'm trying to learn java so I can put together a client app > > that connects to a mysql db... > any reason you're using sun studio and not netbeans (or eclipse)? I tried eclipse; it seemed very complicated, and I couldn't really find any "idiot's guide" for it... Oddly enough, I did install netbeans 5.5. It seems to step right on Sun Studio 8.1 . The scenario was this: Install Sun Studio 8.1 Launch the app - ok Install netbeans 5.5 Launch the app - ok Close netbeans, launch Sun Studio - it gets to a message about loading modules (or some such, I don't remember exactly but it did say it was doing something with modules - and hangs forever. For the app I want to build, I've been told more than once that java is the way to go, and netbeans has been recommended twice. The only reason I even tried to fool with studio is because (as far as I know at the moment), that is the tool that will be used in my OOA/D class next term, and I wanted to try and get a jump on it. According to what I've seen on netbeans, it's supposed to have a very good UI interface, but I haven't seen it (I also haven't found the idiot's guide to netbeans). Knowing that netbeans has a UI builder, and other tools, I'd prefer to use it, if I can figure it out. > > Bye > -- > Haim > > From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Tue Feb 20 18:55:43 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:55:43 +0100 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? In-Reply-To: <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> References: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> Message-ID: <45DB442F.4050008@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 larry schrieb: > Hello Clive, > > I did try apt-cache search geotiff, and it gave me what you had > listed...So I did an apt-get install on eachone, and it told me that I > already have the latest version... > > But yet when I try too compile xastir, it shows that I am still missing > Geotiff & Gdal... > > So thanks for the help, and I'll keep working on it... > > Larry What's the exact error message? Sometimes the configure scripts just don't find their libs without helping them. And maybe compiling you "missing" package resolves the problem. Cheers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF20QvawVCzdc4h4IRAlUhAJ9QxQU2RtZ+rO7DceKjI6FmGih+kwCfZIyF 5WY6eVSvUPsgtvUKcfyuxAQ= =UUWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From idtest at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 18:57:29 2007 From: idtest at gmail.com (Dmitrij Ilchenko) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:57:29 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem Message-ID: Yes, I have the same problem in both KDE and GNOME. and even in kdm/gdm without running any desktop environment. I don't want to use internal KDE or GNOME keyboard shortcuts. I can use xorg config to specify the shortcut to switch layouts and xneur to display current layout. Am i missing something in xorg.conf? I was using Debian Sarge for a while, and with this config: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru(winkeys),ua(winkeys)" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" EndSection layout switching worked perfectly. P.S. If in doubt about my keyboard, in console it works perfect and layouts are switched through pressing Ctrl+Shift. From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Feb 20 19:03:22 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:03:22 +0100 Subject: Dell has made a move In-Reply-To: <20070220194353.b37df8de.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <1171897318.14960.0.camel@localhost> <880dece00702201020p725e892bw32e455c992b09dbb@mail.gmail.com> <015901c7551d$7c2bb440$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070220194353.b37df8de.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20070220200322.8fd14e4a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Errata : in my last message on this thread, I didn't pay enough attention when editing out the mail I was replying to, and that ended up in me making it look like fellow poster "Dave Grundgeiger" said something... that he didn't actually say ! Public apologies.... -- Vince, hiding in the corner... From oawoaw at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 19:05:27 2007 From: oawoaw at gmail.com (oclad wesley) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:05:27 -0800 Subject: unable to boot In-Reply-To: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> References: <1171966054.4763.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1d206fd10702201105tc0de1e2y47503a84fcbbd4c9@mail.gmail.com> I had the same problem when I tried to change from linux to windows. I fixed problem by fixing MBR. On 2/20/07, norman wrote: > > I have an old desktop machine which has used Ubuntu for more than 2 > years and now I am happily using a new machine with Ubuntu. I decided to > convert the old machine to Win 2k to use for games etc. So, I started > set up and reformatted the HDD and the installation went as far as > telling me that the computer would reboot. Computer closed down and then > restarted and got as far as 'Error loading operating system' and > stopped. > > I wondered if anyone else had seen a similar problem when trying to > convert a Ubuntu machine to a window's one? If so, is it possible to > overcome this difficulty? > > Norman > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- >From Oclad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Tue Feb 20 19:10:28 2007 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:10:28 +0100 Subject: opensource nvidia, xinerama Message-ID: <200702202010.28220.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Hi, I have a nvidia 7600 card. It has one VGA _and_ on DVI output. I also have one DVI to VGA (harware) converter. Two screens, strictly the same. I intend to run Edgy Eft (Kubuntu). Is there any possibility that the Xinerama mode will work? I mean: sharing a laaaaaaarge desktop on the two screens (not cloning/mirroring) _with_ the opensource drivers. I dont want to use proprietary drivers. Is it possible? If some has nearly the same hardware, I would ask for their xorg.conf, please. Thank you! PS: I found some howtos, but thei're ATI/proprietary driver From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Tue Feb 20 19:21:54 2007 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:21:54 -0800 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: <45D60D39.4050603@gatech.edu> References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> <45D60D39.4050603@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45DB4A52.30406@systemstheory.net> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > sdavmor wrote: >> ac wrote: >>> John Dangler wrote: >>>> I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... >>>> It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. >>>> Anyone have any other info regarding this? >>> I recall that they withdrew some/all code for a thorough review of >>> any (copyright infringement?) issues I think. So work may be >>> ongoing, maybe, but there was a significant holdup. >> I've looked at it several times in the last year. It's not even to an >> Alpha stage IMO. Still very much a laboratory project. > > Certainly true, but that's basically how the Linux kernel started after all. > > Matthew Flaschen Agreed. Not knocking the project at all. But it's got a long way to go to even be worth fiddling around with. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Tue Feb 20 19:23:03 2007 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:23:03 -0800 Subject: [OT] ReactOS In-Reply-To: <2c8763bb0702161124l5459e78dtba14f96b0f3f242b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1171412623.10534.206.camel@croatus> <45D5EB20.3050203@systemstheory.net> <2c8763bb0702161124l5459e78dtba14f96b0f3f242b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DB4A97.6070404@systemstheory.net> Conrad Knauer wrote: > (partly piggybacking since I joined the ML recently) > > On 2/16/07, sdavmor wrote: >> ac wrote: >>> John Dangler wrote: >>>> I saw something about this, so I thought I'd take a look at it... >>>> It appears as though nothing has happened with this since 2005. >>>> Anyone have any other info regarding this? >>> I recall that they withdrew some/all code for a thorough review of >>> any (copyright infringement?) issues I think. So work may be >>> ongoing, maybe, but there was a significant holdup. > > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS > > The code audit is now "96.5% complete"; development on code that has > been cleared is proceeding while code that is has not is still > "locked". > >> I've looked at it several times in the last year. It's not even to an >> Alpha stage IMO. Still very much a laboratory project. > > I tried it recently and its not very usable yet, but its one of those > things that deserves a periodic look (if running Windows apps is your > thing ;) > > CK I'll check it again mid year. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Tue Feb 20 19:24:05 2007 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:24:05 +0100 Subject: opensource nvidia, xinerama In-Reply-To: <200702202010.28220.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> References: <200702202010.28220.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <45DB4AD5.4070208@kaiser-linux.li> Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina wrote: > Hi, > I have a nvidia 7600 card. It has one VGA _and_ on DVI output. > I also have one DVI to VGA (harware) converter. > Two screens, strictly the same. > I intend to run Edgy Eft (Kubuntu). > Is there any possibility that the Xinerama mode will work? > I mean: sharing a laaaaaaarge desktop on the two screens > (not cloning/mirroring) _with_ the opensource drivers. I dont > want to use proprietary drivers. > Is it possible? > If some has nearly the same hardware, I would ask for their xorg.conf, please. > Thank you! > PS: I found some howtos, but thei're ATI/proprietary driver > I use nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2) with one VGA and one DVI output and 2 VGA monitors and I need the proprietary nVidia driver to get the big screen (large Desktop). But I did not try the nv driver a long time ago. Thomas PS: See the link down here :-) -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From larry at isp.com Tue Feb 20 19:26:32 2007 From: larry at isp.com (larry) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:26:32 -0600 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? In-Reply-To: <45DB442F.4050008@gmx.de> References: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> <45DB442F.4050008@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45DB4B68.3040501@isp.com> Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > larry schrieb: > >> Hello Clive, >> >> I did try apt-cache search geotiff, and it gave me what you had >> listed...So I did an apt-get install on eachone, and it told me that I >> already have the latest version... >> >> But yet when I try too compile xastir, it shows that I am still missing >> Geotiff & Gdal... >> >> So thanks for the help, and I'll keep working on it... >> >> Larry >> > > What's the exact error message? Sometimes the configure scripts just > don't find their libs without helping them. And maybe compiling you > "missing" package resolves the problem. > Cheers > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF20QvawVCzdc4h4IRAlUhAJ9QxQU2RtZ+rO7DceKjI6FmGih+kwCfZIyF > 5WY6eVSvUPsgtvUKcfyuxAQ= > =UUWv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > There is no error message, after it is compiled it shows you what is installed, and these two dependences are missing... You just maybe correct, that the script just can not find them... I do have Xastir-1.8.5 compiled on Ubuntu 6.06, how I got it everything needed for it, seemed easy, now for some reason I can't using Ubuntu 6.10... Guess I will play around with it for a little while, then come back to it tomorrow... Thanks for the help... Larry -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.10 73 de Larry/wd9esu 31yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 19:40:22 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:40:22 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702201140m69ae556u502420ed18f09027@mail.gmail.com> On 20/02/07, Dmitrij Ilchenko wrote: > Yes, I have the same problem in both KDE and GNOME. and even in > kdm/gdm without running any desktop environment. I don't want to use > internal KDE or GNOME keyboard shortcuts. I can use xorg config to > specify the shortcut to switch layouts and xneur to display current > layout. > Am i missing something in xorg.conf? I was using Debian Sarge for a > while, and with this config: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru(winkeys),ua(winkeys)" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" > EndSection > > layout switching worked perfectly. > > P.S. If in doubt about my keyboard, in console it works perfect and > layouts are switched through pressing Ctrl+Shift. > Any reason why you don't want to use Gnome/KDE's built-in keyboard manager? Note that both desktops are (despite the freedesktop initiative) growing away from dependence on features of X. So using X features in Gnome and KDE is becoming more of a problem. I had an issue with this in regard to sticky keys, which I need. Now I just use KDE's accessability's sticky key feature. Side note: I'd like to redefine certain non-english keyboard shortcuts to their english equivelents. So if I'm in a Hebrew loayout I can hit CTRL-V and have it paste, even though the V key is now serving as the ה character. Do you know how to do that? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/35/339/megadeth/youthanasia.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/phishing.html From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 20 20:15:27 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:15:27 -0500 Subject: egdy -> feisty upgrade? In-Reply-To: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> References: <20070220121234.5fdaff59@n428> Message-ID: <1172002528.8904.10.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 12:12 +0100, Kristian Rink wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Folks; > > because of a couple of kernel-related troubles with edgy on my notebook > I currently consider making a switch and try out feisty fawn. Usually, > I'd just add the repositories to sources.list, do a dist-upgrade to > wait and see. However, remembering that right that procedure ended up > rather bad trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I wanted to ask > people around here, first: Is dist-upgrade to Feisty a good idea, or > should I rather go and try getting a new installation from scratch > done? What experiences did you make so far? I've been using feisty for a few weeks now on my laptop. I did the "gksudo update-manager -c -d" and it went fairly smoothly. A number of packages ended up being removed, but I put them back as I needed. There are some bugs in some of the packages, and you're likely to discover some yourself. If you're up to submitting bug reports, you're more likely to be able to get the bugs you find fixed before release! One way to try out feisty without harming anything is to grab the latest CD, use it just as a live CD and see how it goes. See if the hurdles you face with edgy are resolved, and try to uncover new bugs, too. > Thanks and bye, > Kristian > > - -- > Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ > jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 > "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together > is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF2teicxBAPOA1m6wRAguXAKCfUgvWgDa6CIWi/m79B+y2FjuDQgCeJshL > 1rZgmRIZj+w1LhBO40RVTNs= > =L+AD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From timfrost at xtra.co.nz Tue Feb 20 20:24:18 2007 From: timfrost at xtra.co.nz (Tim Frost) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:24:18 +1300 Subject: How too find a dependence package...??? In-Reply-To: <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> References: <45DAE8EF.2070903@isp.com> <20070220161928.GC12320@clivemenzies.co.uk> <45DB4106.3080503@isp.com> Message-ID: <1172003058.13314.39.camel@marvin.chile.gen.nz> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 12:42 -0600, larry wrote: > I did try apt-cache search geotiff, and it gave me what you had > listed...So I did an apt-get install on eachone, and it told me that I > already have the latest version... > > But yet when I try too compile xastir, it shows that I am still missing > Geotiff & Gdal... If you are compilling, you need the development libraries, which ill be in the -dev package, which for edgy is libgdal1-1.3.1-dev. You will need the development packages for all libraries, as well as the core (the meta-package build-essential will pull in the critical packages). The other way to locate packages is via http://packages.ubuntu.com/, where you can search the contents of the packages, as well as the list of packages, across all releases or within a single release. > > So thanks for the help, and I'll keep working on it... > > Larry > Tim From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue Feb 20 20:30:35 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:30:35 -0500 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <200702200937.27319.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <200702201530.35308.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Tuesday 20 February 2007 13:19, Derek Broughton wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 February 2007 08:55, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> It's not THAT dangerous. The Debian packaging system is pretty robust. > >> If doing this from Edgy to Feisty, it would be mildly hazardous, because > >> not > >> all of the Feisty packages are guaranteed to work. The worst that's > >> going to happen with an attempt to upgrade a single package from Dapper > >> to Edgy is that you'll be told it's going to update your entire Gnome > >> (or KDE) > >> desktop to Edgy. When you see it wanting to update 300 packages, you do > >> _not_ respond "Yes" to the prompt! Even if you do, you now have an > >> essentially Edgy system, and you may as well continue with a full > >> upgrade. > > > > Not true. > > Generally true. > When you say, "The worst that's going to happen..." I think there is some obligation that whatever follows actually be the worst that could happen and not something that is generally true. I agree that generally it will either be fine or try to upgrade a big chunk of your system, but other more subtle things are possible (even likely if you change libc releases). > > Packages for Dapper and Edgy (and Feisty for that matter) are > > all compiled against different versions of various libraries. > > They certainly are. > > > As long as the > > interface with the libraries is unchanged and the library behavior is > > consistent, your analysis is correct. > > Even if the interface is _not_ consistent, as long as the package > dependencies are correct (ie, it only depends on versions with which it > will work!) this should not be a problem. Admittedly, there are times when > packages don't have all their dependencies correct (for instance, kdar in > edgy depends on a library only available in dapper), but they still > shouldn't break your system, unless they actually start replacing libraries > that you need. Shouldn't yes, but it happens. > > The safest way to do this is download the source package, build your own > > .deb file locally and install that. > > That's always safe, but beyond the requirements of many. The problem is that there is no way to know in advance if it's required or not. If a stable system is important to you, rebuild the package from source or do without. Fortunately in the Debian packaging system this is very easy to do. After adding the source repo for the distro you want to get the package from, it's pretty much: $ sudo apt-get install devscripts fakeroot # tools used for building $ mkdir {directory you want your source in} $ cd {directory name} $ apt-get source {packagename} $ cd {packagename}-VERSION $ sudo apt-get build-dep {packagename} $ debuild -us -uc # build the debian packages $ cd .. $ sudo dpkg -i {packagename}_VERSION_ARCHITECTURE.deb Scott K From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Tue Feb 20 20:45:25 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:45:25 +0100 Subject: Small commandline-traffic-analyzer? Message-ID: <45DB5DE5.2070200@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello. Because i run a Tor-Server on my desktop-PC i want to know how much traffic it produces. I already looked at ipac-ng - but that's too big - and at nload - well, that's too small :o) I want to see how much traffic goes up/down on port X. It would be nice if the application would support multiple ports, but that is not necessary. I do not want to get images, but I like logfiles ;-) And I need the command that tells me how much lines the command x (in case "netstat|grep x") returns. And - last and least - a tool, that allows me to configure how much bandwidth may be used by port X, but that's really not really necessary (and I'm not sure if that is nonsense because it maybe wouldn't work). greetings from #germany -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF213kawVCzdc4h4IRAtUCAJ9f2CFF1ZsCXqhn8MdU+j0wQQbFJACZAYkS eOBM1A9Otm0F7E71pVOI8Zg= =Tzov -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 21:04:54 2007 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:54 -0800 Subject: With latest packages, beryl hangs Message-ID: Hi, On my laptop (Intel 855GM video chip), beryl hangs when I log in. I can get a working session by killing beryl from a VT console. Anyone else seeing this? Miles From peek at tiem.utk.edu Tue Feb 20 21:21:05 2007 From: peek at tiem.utk.edu (Michael S. Peek) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:21:05 -0500 Subject: /dev/sda1 --> /dev/hda1 ??? Message-ID: <45DB6641.1090307@tiem.utk.edu> Hi Ubuntu gurus, I've just taken the plunge and compiled my own kernel -- 2.6.20.1 -- to reconcile a problem with buggy sound drivers. (Now granted that the last time I compiled a linux kernel, it was for version 1.2.13, but I followed the instructions and got a pair of *.deb packages. Kudos to all documentation writers out there!) After installing said kernel, I found that I couldn't boot. A little more tweaking and I found that in order to boot, I had to change: root=/dev/sda1 to: root=/dev/hda1 Um... Is this bad or something? Why does /dev/sda1 not work for my custom kernel when it works for the distribution kernel? Did I set something wrong in my kernel config file? (I also found that if I run update-grub, it wants to change it back to /dev/sda1.) Trying to understand, thanks for your help! Michael Peek From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Tue Feb 20 21:25:34 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:25:34 +0100 Subject: With latest packages, beryl hangs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45DB674E.1090506@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Miles Lane schrieb: > Hi, > > On my laptop (Intel 855GM video chip), beryl hangs when I log in. I > can get a working session by killing beryl from a VT console. > > Anyone else seeing this? > > Miles > Do you use the svn version? The svn version works very well for me. greetings -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF22dOawVCzdc4h4IRAsSEAJ9DcqGQSxAZymkfbcm4xR0bQiH0TACeLNyM 4HawlYEiTScAVNP/R88Co84= =Ucl3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From james at jamesandportia.com Tue Feb 20 21:43:10 2007 From: james at jamesandportia.com (James Bertelson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:43:10 -0800 Subject: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper In-Reply-To: <45DB42B0.5000907@gmx.de> References: <1365ade30702200851l68ab982r2e50c11845f737bd@mail.gmail.com> <45DB42B0.5000907@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20070220134310.f8p3lowmm8so4ooo@webmail.jamesandportia.com> The other alternative is to use the *alternate* install ISO. It's a text-based installer, and should bypass the problem that you're having. -- James Bertelson Quoting Nicolai Spohrer : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > maman durahman schrieb: >> Dear All, >> >> I try to install xubuntu dapper on my old computer, celeron 333, ram >> 128, and s3trio 3d vga card. From live cd i just can get resolution at >> 640x480. The desktop is too big so i can not see dialog box completly >> when i try to install it to my hdd so it's hard to me to install it to >> my hdd. I have try several option to make resolution bigger when start >> ubuntu live cd but still not work.. I try to change resolution. But it >> can not change. That is the only resolution avalable. >> >> Please help me to overcome that situation so that i can install >> xubuntu from live cd. Thanks in advance >> >> > I had the same problem with with Ubuntu. There was no really good > solution, but you can right-click on the window in the panel and MOVE > the window where you want it. I am not absolutely sure if Xubuntu is > able to do that, too, but I think so (don't really know the xubuntu > panel...). > Greetings, hop that helps > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF20KwawVCzdc4h4IRApddAJ4uZpUN1x7SZdtTlsnmHH43KmAU/QCfUR5q > 4KhC+/WPQcZ9VTHAdMuzJdk= > =i/eu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From erobererunc at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 21:51:31 2007 From: erobererunc at gmail.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:51:31 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu VMWare Export to others (best solution?) Message-ID: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> First of all, does anybody know if a VM that is sent to another person will get a whole new UUID? My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but this little bit of information would help. My problem is, when I copy an Ubuntu VM, the 2 network interfaces that I'm using turn from eth0 and eth1, to eth2 and eth3. I know that I can edit /etc/iftab (or write a script) to replace the hardware addresses in this file with those of the actual virtual pieces of hardware, but since this VM is going to be used by other people, I didn't want to add this step. I was wondering if there is a much deeper way to fix Ubuntu's handling of the new interfaces. What I'd really like is to have /etc/iftab repopulated, so does anybody know how to do that? The other solution that I've seen is to edit or delete /etc/udev/rules.d/25- iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS like the system is working just fine, but are there any gotchas to doing this? I don't really know how this file is used by udev in Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause inconsistent naming of the interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be hardware address 00:...:01 sometimes, and 00:...:02 another time, switching with eth1). Does anybody know for sure? It certainly doesn't change the /etc/iftab file like I'd like it to. Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to make a single Ubuntu VM installation that is configured to work for my purposes, and distribute it to others. These people may actually be on the same network as me, and thus they require a new MAC address. That's why I'm asking about the VMWare UUID's, because I know the MAC addresses are based off of these. However, when I download something like the Ubuntu-based "Browser Appliance" ( http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), neither am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC address problem. Thanks for any help! I'm going to be in contact with VMWare as well. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gyrotech at freakinabox.com Tue Feb 20 22:01:39 2007 From: gyrotech at freakinabox.com (GyroTech) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:01:39 +0000 Subject: Automatically duplicate files Message-ID: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> Is it possibly to set up a system where any file created and\or changed in any directory is duplicated in another directory ?? I only need file creation & modification to be considered, not deletion. Thanks, GT From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 20 22:22:41 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:22:41 -0800 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> Message-ID: On 02/16/2007 03:12 PM, W.D.McKinney wrote: > I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files to this workstation? > > -Dee > Have a look here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/twamb] Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. After your fonts are installed, I also recommend that you update your fonts cache(s) from a terminal window by: sudo fc-cache -fv From idtest at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 23:14:10 2007 From: idtest at gmail.com (Dmitrij Ilchenko) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:14:10 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem Message-ID: >> Yes, I have the same problem in both KDE and GNOME. and even in >> kdm/gdm without running any desktop environment. I don't want to use >> internal KDE or GNOME keyboard shortcuts. I can use xorg config to >> specify the shortcut to switch layouts and xneur to display current >> layout. >> Am i missing something in xorg.conf? I was using Debian Sarge for a >> while, and with this config: >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Generic Keyboard" >> Driver "kbd" >> Option "CoreKeyboard" >> Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" >> Option "XkbModel" "pc105" >> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru(winkeys),ua(winkeys)" >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" >> EndSection >> >> layout switching worked perfectly. >> >> P.S. If in doubt about my keyboard, in console it works perfect and >> layouts are switched through pressing Ctrl+Shift. >> > >Any reason why you don't want to use Gnome/KDE's built-in keyboard >manager? Note that both desktops are (despite the freedesktop >initiative) growing away from dependence on features of X. So using X >features in Gnome and KDE is becoming more of a problem. I had an >issue with this in regard to sticky keys, which I need. Now I just use >KDE's accessability's sticky key feature. > >Side note: I'd like to redefine certain non-english keyboard shortcuts >to their english equivelents. So if I'm in a Hebrew loayout I can hit >CTRL-V and have it paste, even though the V key is now serving as the >? character. Do you know how to do that? The only reason is that i've got used to Ctrl+Shift switching already and I had it worked in Debian, so i see no reason why it shouldn't work in Ubuntu. Internal keyboard switcher of KDE doesn't offer a Ctrl+Shift combination, and in Gnome when i enabled keyboar switcher applet - you know what i've got.... No matter what do I use - KDE/Gnome/Xfce/IceWM - they are all X Window Systems. So, they "obey" to a config of X server (Xorg here in Ubuntu), so the layouts should switch as specified in X config, if not overwritten by internal application. Am i wrong somewhere? So, again. The topic is - i want to get Ctrl+Shift switching of keyboard layouts work. It doesn't. Why? About your side note - i've met the same problem... especcially painful when using ICQ, as for me. But really in this case I only know 2 solutions: 1) get used that if you're in Hebrew, the program won't do the "paste" action if you press Ctrl+V :(; 2) setup something like xneur or internal applets of desktop environments to track layouts in different windows separately, so if you switched to OpenOffice and written something in Hebrew copied it somehow, then swithced back to mail client where you had English turned on, and pasted it by pressing Ctrl+V, it will paste :) As i know, xneur works both in gnome and KDE, and internal Gnome applet has a feature of "remember layouts of every window" From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 20 23:15:58 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:15:58 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> Message-ID: <1172013358.8904.46.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 14:22 -0800, NoOp wrote: > On 02/16/2007 03:12 PM, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files to this workstation? > > > > -Dee > > > > Have a look here: > > [http://preview.tinyurl.com/twamb] > > Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file > browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file > browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once > in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. It may be more clear to simply tell folks to press "Alt-F2" and enter the command or location. > After your fonts are installed, I also recommend that you update your > fonts cache(s) from a terminal window by: > > sudo fc-cache -fv Good point. mike -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 20 23:18:47 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:18:47 -0500 Subject: Small commandline-traffic-analyzer? In-Reply-To: <45DB5DE5.2070200@gmx.de> References: <45DB5DE5.2070200@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1172013527.8904.50.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 21:45 +0100, Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello. Because i run a Tor-Server on my desktop-PC i want to know how > much traffic it produces. I already looked at ipac-ng - but that's too > big - and at nload - well, that's too small :o) I want to see how much > traffic goes up/down on port X. It would be nice if the application > would support multiple ports, but that is not necessary. I do not want > to get images, but I like logfiles ;-) > > And I need the command that tells me how much lines the command x (in > case "netstat|grep x") returns. > > And - last and least - a tool, that allows me to configure how much > bandwidth may be used by port X, but that's really not really necessary > (and I'm not sure if that is nonsense because it maybe wouldn't work). I like iptraf. It shows all the connections as well as overall data. > greetings from #germany > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF213kawVCzdc4h4IRAtUCAJ9f2CFF1ZsCXqhn8MdU+j0wQQbFJACZAYkS > eOBM1A9Otm0F7E71pVOI8Zg= > =Tzov > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sysmatt at gmail.com Tue Feb 20 23:22:06 2007 From: sysmatt at gmail.com (Matt Smith) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:22:06 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? Message-ID: <45db828f.35f434e0.7a4c.0859@mx.google.com> Alt-f2 fonts colon // then hit entered -----Original Message----- From: "NoOp" To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: 2/20/2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? On 02/16/2007 03:12 PM, W.D.McKinney wrote: > I just built my new workstation with Ubuntu 6.10 and all is well. I have a "MegaFONT" CD with loads of ttf's zipped up on it. How do I add ttf files to this workstation? > > -Dee > Have a look here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/twamb] Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. After your fonts are installed, I also recommend that you update your fonts cache(s) from a terminal window by: sudo fc-cache -fv -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From fastfish at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 00:01:57 2007 From: fastfish at gmail.com (Bazooka Joe) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:01:57 -0800 Subject: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> Message-ID: <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> man rsync On 2/20/07, GyroTech wrote: > Is it possibly to set up a system where any file created and\or changed > in any directory is duplicated in another directory ?? I only need file > creation & modification to be considered, not deletion. > > Thanks, > > GT > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 21 00:57:55 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:57:55 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu VMWare Export to others (best solution?) References: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Michael Matthews wrote: > First of all, does anybody know if a VM that is sent to another person > will > get a whole new UUID? My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but this > little bit of information would help. If I've understood the VM configuration properly, it's your choice - uuid.action = "create" will force each the creation of a new uuid. Specifying uuid.location & uuid.bios without uuid.action will use the old values - but you'll be asked (at least I was) whether that's the correct action. > The other solution that I've seen is to edit or delete > /etc/udev/rules.d/25- > iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS like the system is working just > fine, but are there any gotchas to doing this? I don't really know how > this > file is used by udev in Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause > inconsistent naming of the interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be > hardware address It certainly can. I _don't_ use iftab.rules for my physical ubuntu, and whether my wired NIC is eth0 or eth1 is random. > These people may actually be on the same network as me, and thus they > require a new MAC address. That's why I'm asking about the VMWare UUID's, > because I know the MAC addresses are based off of these. However, when I > download something like the Ubuntu-based "Browser Appliance" ( > http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), neither > am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC > address problem. That's different. Regardless of UUID, you can force new MAC addresses to be generated - just create a vmx at easyvmx.com and take a look at what's in there. I think it's just ethernet0.addressType = "generated" with no mac address specified. First run will create new ones. I'm new to this,so I could be wrong, but that's what I've observed :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Feb 21 01:06:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:06:05 -0400 Subject: How to load Edgy version of a package onto Dapper? References: <45DA2B4C.9040006@mindspring.com> <200702200937.27319.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <200702201530.35308.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: Scott Kitterman wrote: > When you say, "The worst that's going to happen..." I think there is some > obligation that whatever follows actually be the worst that could happen > and > not something that is generally true. True, but "the worst that is going to happen" is actually completely undefinable, as you could always have a previously unknown bug. > I agree that generally it will > either be fine or try to upgrade a big chunk of your system, but other > more subtle things are possible (even likely if you change libc releases). You can have major problems with a libc upgrade _within_ a release. I've stopped allowing libc upgrades automatically. I always remove libc6-i686, upgrade and reinstall libc6-i686 because I've more than once been unable to use any programs, or reboot, after ending up with different versions of libc6 & libc6-i686 -- derek From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 21 01:21:03 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:21:03 -0800 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <1172013358.8904.46.camel@localhost> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <1172013358.8904.46.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 02/20/2007 03:15 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 14:22 -0800, NoOp wrote: >> >> Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file >> browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file >> browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once >> in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. > > It may be more clear to simply tell folks to press "Alt-F2" and enter > the command or location. Cool! I didn't know that -thanks :-) From michaelrpg at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 01:29:12 2007 From: michaelrpg at gmail.com (Michael Gustafson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:29:12 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <1172013358.8904.46.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2ee9e5d30702201729n7103e34bi9979457310e2b320@mail.gmail.com> It works the same with Kubuntu and Konqueror. On 2/20/07, NoOp wrote: > > On 02/20/2007 03:15 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 14:22 -0800, NoOp wrote: > > >> > >> Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file > >> browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file > >> browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once > >> in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. > > > > It may be more clear to simply tell folks to press "Alt-F2" and enter > > the command or location. > > Cool! I didn't know that -thanks :-) > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From durahman at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 01:40:37 2007 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:40:37 -0600 Subject: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper In-Reply-To: <20070220134310.f8p3lowmm8so4ooo@webmail.jamesandportia.com> References: <1365ade30702200851l68ab982r2e50c11845f737bd@mail.gmail.com> <45DB42B0.5000907@gmx.de> <20070220134310.f8p3lowmm8so4ooo@webmail.jamesandportia.com> Message-ID: <1365ade30702201740l16675edeh8b132f18b91480f0@mail.gmail.com> Thank you nicolai, thank you james. I have remove the panel i still cannot see dialog box instalation fully. To use alternate isntalation i think that's a solution but i have to download xubuntu alternet first whicih is it take about 24 our. Before i install xubuntu alternate i will try install it on others computer which is more powerfull after that i will move the hdd on that computer whcih is i wanto to install xubuntu actually, celeren 333. 2007/2/20, James Bertelson : > The other alternative is to use the *alternate* install ISO. It's a > text-based installer, and should bypass the problem that you're having. From burner at suppressingfire.org Wed Feb 21 02:17:08 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:17:08 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <1172013358.8904.46.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1172024229.8904.58.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 17:21 -0800, NoOp wrote: > On 02/20/2007 03:15 PM, Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 14:22 -0800, NoOp wrote: > > >> > >> Also note that sometimes folks get confused when they get to the " file > >> browser" part and attempt to enter fonts:/// in a web browser. The file > >> browser that they are refering to is your Nautilus *file browser*; once > >> in the file browser just enter CTL-L as in the instructions. > > > > It may be more clear to simply tell folks to press "Alt-F2" and enter > > the command or location. > > Cool! I didn't know that -thanks :-) > I think the location support in the run dialog was added around hoary/GNOME2.10. I know for a fact that it won't actually work in sarge's version of GNOME (which is 2.8). -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I appreciate it. >> >> This is the sort of thing that I need to do in different forms >> repeatedly. And part of the attraction of linux is the ability to do >> this stuff, > > Ofcourse, in any editor that has search&replace, on _any_ OS, you can > replace "" with "" and "" with "", and so on. Well, it would be "" or "" with "" in most editors (and the * is harder), but good call. That didn't even occur to me. I don't know whether that's good or bad. > And Emacs is ported to many systems as well, so I certainly wouldn't call > this a Linux-attraction. :-) Let's call it GNU/Linux and split the difference. (I have used Emacs on Windows) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Was > hardware raid supported out of the box? > > Charles > > -- > "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you > sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of > doing the thing it was bought to do" > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 21 03:33:11 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:33:11 -0500 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> References: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <45DBBD77.1000700@gatech.edu> Dave M wrote: > I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using Ubuntu > v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. > > I am new at this so maybe I am looking at the wrong device? > > I assume it should be /dev/sda ? No, that's probably your hard drive. Try /dev/sg0. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From admin at greenleecp.com Wed Feb 21 03:40:51 2007 From: admin at greenleecp.com (Charles Yao) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:40:51 +0800 Subject: Servers Hardware Raid In-Reply-To: <20070221033659.703ca228@ribeye.akwireless.net> References: <20070221033659.703ca228@ribeye.akwireless.net> Message-ID: <509d63b70702201940w4df69495ka1cebf3f985c600a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/07, W.D.McKinney wrote: > > I use these folks. http://www.aslab.com/ > Ubuntu Server 64bit works great. Software Raid and hardware raid. > > -Dee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles Yao > [mailto:admin at greenleecp.com] > To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for > general discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com] > Sent: Tue, 20 Feb > 2007 18:18:03 -0900 > Subject: Re: Servers Hardware Raid > > Thanks Dee, I'll check them out. -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ktask at esc3.org Wed Feb 21 03:40:51 2007 From: ktask at esc3.org (Ken Task) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:40:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Ubuntu Ultimate ISO's {Scanned} Message-ID: <50016.74.192.50.123.1172029251.squirrel@www.k12os-foss.net> Have an laptop with CD drive (not DVD). Are there Ultimate .iso's created for CD's available for download? The only one I've found is for a DVD. Is there a way I could break up the DVD .iso and create a 2 CD set for install? If this is the wrong list to post this question to, please advise. Thanks, in advance, Ken -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From yaocharlesc at yahoo.com Wed Feb 21 04:27:00 2007 From: yaocharlesc at yahoo.com (Charles Yao) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:27:00 +0800 Subject: Howto Thin Client Message-ID: <509d63b70702202027m2279339as883cd1be831b26ad@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Where can I find a Howto to set up a small thin client network? Charles -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erobererunc at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 04:57:23 2007 From: erobererunc at gmail.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:57:23 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu VMWare Export to others (best solution?) In-Reply-To: References: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <775033410702202057t7d59e32nb316056da5a574d8@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Derek. That's what I figured, when not using the iftab.rules for udev. I don't really want that to happen. So does anybody else have any recommendations for fixing the Ubuntu MAC address problem? On 2/20/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Michael Matthews wrote: > > > First of all, does anybody know if a VM that is sent to another person > > will > > get a whole new UUID? My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but this > > little bit of information would help. > > If I've understood the VM configuration properly, it's your choice - > uuid.action = "create" > will force each the creation of a new uuid. Specifying uuid.location & > uuid.bios without uuid.action will use the old values - but you'll be > asked > (at least I was) whether that's the correct action. > > > The other solution that I've seen is to edit or delete > > /etc/udev/rules.d/25- > > iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS like the system is working > just > > fine, but are there any gotchas to doing this? I don't really know how > > this > > file is used by udev in Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause > > inconsistent naming of the interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be > > hardware address > > It certainly can. I _don't_ use iftab.rules for my physical ubuntu, and > whether my wired NIC is eth0 or eth1 is random. > > > These people may actually be on the same network as me, and thus they > > require a new MAC address. That's why I'm asking about the VMWare > UUID's, > > because I know the MAC addresses are based off of these. However, when > I > > download something like the Ubuntu-based "Browser Appliance" ( > > http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), > neither > > am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC > > address problem. > > That's different. Regardless of UUID, you can force new MAC addresses to > be > generated - just create a vmx at easyvmx.com and take a look at what's in > there. I think it's just > ethernet0.addressType = "generated" > with no mac address specified. First run will create new ones. > > I'm new to this,so I could be wrong, but that's what I've observed :-) > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do only one thing at celeron 333; resize the screen resolution through "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Thank you everyone. 2007/2/20, maman durahman : > Thank you nicolai, thank you james. I have remove the panel i still > cannot see dialog box instalation fully. To use alternate isntalation > i think that's a solution but i have to download xubuntu alternet > first whicih is it take about 24 our. Before i install xubuntu > alternate i will try install it on others computer which is more > powerfull after that i will move the hdd on that computer whcih is i > wanto to install xubuntu actually, celeren 333. > From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 07:28:15 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:28:15 +0800 Subject: Trouble with Ipv6 link-local addresses. Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to ping the ipv6 link-local address of my network, but I get an "connect: invalid argument" message. joelbryan at joelbryan-laptop:~$ ping6 fe80::208:2ff:fecf:2606 connect: Invalid argument but I have no problem pinging my public ipv6 address joelbryan at joelbryan-laptop:~$ ping6 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47 PING 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47(2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time= 0.049 ms 64 bytes from 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time= 0.047 ms 64 bytes from 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time= 0.054 ms 64 bytes from 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time= 0.056 ms 64 bytes from 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time= 0.058 ms --- 2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:7c68:c47 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.047/0.052/0.058/0.010 ms Is there something I need to add to ping other link-local ipv6 network? -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Nikolai From psalmos at swissinfo.org Wed Feb 21 08:54:41 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:54:41 +1000 Subject: spamd & claws mail In-Reply-To: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> References: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> Message-ID: <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> The actual error when running sudo apt-get install spampd is: An override for "/var/cache/spampd" already exists, aborting Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /var/cache/spampd An override for "/etc/spampd.conf" already exists, aborting Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /etc/spampd.conf * ERROR: Insufficient privileges. Retry as root invoke-rc.d: initscript spampd, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing spampd (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4 Errors were encountered while processing: spampd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) "Insufficient privileges?" I'm running it with sudo... What's going on? Nikolai From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Wed Feb 21 09:03:48 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:03:48 +0200 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <20070216065002.0daabcab@chisel> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> <45D54399.4030001@dnainternet.net> <20070216065002.0daabcab@chisel> Message-ID: <45DC0AF4.2060206@dnainternet.net> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Janne Jokitalo wrote: > >> Now, is there any way around this? I'd kinda not like syslog fill up >> of these, but would like to monitor the state of my networking >> though. I'll hit the google on this, now that I know what it is, but >> suggestions are always welcome. > > As I read it this is largely a 3Com issue, and not isolated to Ubuntu. Right, this is unfortunate. > My "ideal solution" would be to replace the NIC with something not 3Com > of you can, mostly because NICs are just that cheap. This would not be preferable, since I only have 3com cards spare. :) And besides, they work fast and are reliable. > I did see some discussion about a kernel patch, but I doubt it's worth > messing with custom kernels that will have to be re-patched and > recompiled every update, unless you're *deeply* in love with your > network monitor. ;) Yes I found that too. But I'm not _that_ much in love with it, so I just left it out. > As far as Google goes, try "pci_set_power_state() syslog" minus the > quotes. There's also this very short thread with a couple links in it... > > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320969 > > Good hunting! Thanks once again! My hunt didn't reveal any more significant information, so like I said I cut that part of system monitor off and if I suspect trouble within networking, I can always use other tools to debug the situation. Cheers! -- Jaska From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 11:02:04 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:02:04 +0200 Subject: Keyboard layout switching problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702210302r4c94d168p43bfc8283f8dd074@mail.gmail.com> On 21/02/07, Dmitrij Ilchenko wrote: > The only reason is that i've got used to Ctrl+Shift switching already > and I had it worked in Debian, so i see no reason why it shouldn't > work in Ubuntu. Internal keyboard switcher of KDE doesn't offer a > Ctrl+Shift combination, Yes it does. And even if not, you can custom define it. > and in Gnome when i enabled keyboar switcher > applet - you know what i've got.... No I don't. I don't use Gnome. > No matter what do I use - > KDE/Gnome/Xfce/IceWM - they are all X Window Systems. So, they "obey" > to a config of X server (Xorg here in Ubuntu), so the layouts should > switch as specified in X config, if not overwritten by internal > application. Am i wrong somewhere? It's no longer all at the X level rather at the application level. I'm no CS major so if someone could step in and clear up some facts I'd appreciate it. Here's what I know: KDE can, at it's own level, interpret keystrokes and insert the Hebrew/Russian charatcer as desired. X doesn't even know that you've switched layouts. And some applications, that are not KDE based, might not work as expected. Firefox is a good example. In gnome, Hebrew keyboard shortcuts work as expected in GTK most GTK apps. Firefox, despite being GTK, does not recognize Hebrew keyboard shortcuts. It's an application bug. > So, again. The topic is - i want to get Ctrl+Shift switching of > keyboard layouts work. It doesn't. Why? Because you're tying to do it with X. Set it in KDE/Gnome and see what happens. > About your side note - i've met the same problem... especcially > painful when using ICQ, as for me. But really in this case I only know > 2 solutions: > 1) get used that if you're in Hebrew, the program won't do the "paste" > action if you press Ctrl+V :(; > 2) setup something like xneur or internal applets of desktop > environments to track layouts in different windows separately, so if > you switched to OpenOffice and written something in Hebrew copied it > somehow, then swithced back to mail client where you had English > turned on, and pasted it by pressing Ctrl+V, it will paste :) As i > know, xneur works both in gnome and KDE, and internal Gnome applet has > a feature of "remember layouts of every window" In gnome apps the shortcuts work as expected, so I'll file a bug at KDE. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_firewall.html From gyrotech at freakinabox.com Wed Feb 21 12:10:49 2007 From: gyrotech at freakinabox.com (GyroTech) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:10:49 +0000 Subject: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DC36C9.8080602@freakinabox.com> Bazooka Joe wrote: > man rsync > Thanks a lot :-) Can rsync run as a background task, automatically updating as changes happen or should I just add it as a cron job?? Thanks From kristian.frisk at aland.net Wed Feb 21 12:48:15 2007 From: kristian.frisk at aland.net (Kristian Frisk) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:18:15 +0530 Subject: installing ubuntu through network cable from a Windows xp machine. Message-ID: <24426c0702210448o12202f68rfeed5cc7c05474ca@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, excuse me for my extreme noobnes but I have never used a linux distro before (even though have read some), but now when my windows xp machine finally crashed I decided to change for the better. The problem: the cd-rom on the crashed computer is dead. Solution: I hoped it would be possible to install ubuntu via a network cable (lan) and found this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot All worked very well (but not for too long). When coming to step 7 (see link above) and running the tftpd32 program it immediately complained with following: "Error. Can't bind the BOOTP port! Either you do not have necessary privilege or a BOOTP deamon is already started or IP configuration has changed. bind returns error -1, GetLastError 10048" Pressing ok in that dialog gives a screen with several: "Recv error 10038 [date,time and numbers]" I know this problem is actually a bit of topic (and I'm sorry to bring it up here) but the homepage for tftpd32 http://tftpd32.jounin.net/ didn't help me much and the other pages I googled didn't do it either. If someone have done something similar and have a clue about what to do I would be very happy for an answer. Thanks Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kristian at zimmer428.net Wed Feb 21 13:07:17 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:07:17 +0100 Subject: installing ubuntu through network cable from a Windows xp machine. In-Reply-To: <24426c0702210448o12202f68rfeed5cc7c05474ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <24426c0702210448o12202f68rfeed5cc7c05474ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070221140717.1ee6b8c3@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kris; ["Kristian Frisk" @ Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:18:15 +0530] [...] > "Error. Can't bind the BOOTP port! > Either you do not have necessary privilege or a BOOTP deamon is > already started or IP configuration has changed. > bind returns error -1, GetLastError 10048" > Pressing ok in that dialog gives a screen with several: > "Recv error 10038 [date,time and numbers]" [...] Shots in the dark: - - You do have administrative permissions and surely no other bootp daemon running, right? :) - - Did you configure tftpd32 to listen just on the interface relevant in your setup (see [1] for more details...)? - - Do you have any other tools in place that probably are listening on the bootp ports already? Check netstat -anb to see what happens. Cheers, Kris [1] http://caromet.home.ro/pxe.htm - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF3EQLcxBAPOA1m6wRAgipAJ9qI1qwCI9Hk+P3gep81wl/jOoUUgCfXSC6 2uK4YDxqH7A5TrHcPwPNtIY= =FLyS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miroslav at ludvik.cz Wed Feb 21 13:43:17 2007 From: miroslav at ludvik.cz (Miroslav Ludvik) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:43:17 +0100 Subject: problem with Kismet Message-ID: <45DC4C75.6020008@ludvik.cz> Hello, I use Ubuntu 6.10. I want use new version Kismet. Do you know repository with new version Kismet (2007) ? I search just deb package. I installed this. When I run kismet as root he return me kismet Server options: none Client options: none Starting server... Waiting for server to start before starting UI... FATAL: Could not find user 'your_user_here' for dropping priviledges. Make sure you have a valid user set for 'suiduser' in your config file. See the 'Installation & Security' and 'Configuration' sections of the README file for more information. [1] + Done(1) ${BIN}/kismet_server --silent ${server} Please advice me. Thank Mirek From sysmatt at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 14:03:15 2007 From: sysmatt at gmail.com (Matt Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:03:15 -0600 Subject: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper Message-ID: <45dc5126.53a4cb70.0ca6.2e84@mx.google.com> Try str8 ubunt ad then at-f2 gnome-display-properties Pick your resolution -----Original Message----- From: "maman durahman" To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Sent: 2/20/2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: screen resolution too small, can not install xubuntu daper Thank you nicolai, thank you james. I have remove the panel i still cannot see dialog box instalation fully. To use alternate isntalation i think that's a solution but i have to download xubuntu alternet first whicih is it take about 24 our. Before i install xubuntu alternate i will try install it on others computer which is more powerfull after that i will move the hdd on that computer whcih is i wanto to install xubuntu actually, celeren 333. 2007/2/20, James Bertelson : > The other alternative is to use the *alternate* install ISO. It's a > text-based installer, and should bypass the problem that you're having. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From admin at greenleecp.com Wed Feb 21 14:24:05 2007 From: admin at greenleecp.com (Charles Yao) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:24:05 +0800 Subject: Howto Thin Client In-Reply-To: <1172045736.7851.34.camel@edubuntu> References: <509d63b70702202027m2279339as883cd1be831b26ad@mail.gmail.com> <1172045736.7851.34.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <509d63b70702210624v1078fe7am52adeda88cb3d493@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/07, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > On Mi, 2007-02-21 at 12:27 +0800, Charles Yao wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Where can I find a Howto to set up a small thin client network? > > for the easiest quick install guide see: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall > > might be worth a look as well: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP > > not yewt added to the above overview but might be important: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices > > apart from that wiki.ltsp.org will have some additional help even though > its rather distro unspecific. > > ciao > oli > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > Thanks Oliver. -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A text-ubuntu will be installed... mfg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF3FpOawVCzdc4h4IRAjiWAKCEn1j82PWEPkOL/ekO+/pn0bqPLwCgixYB Fltzb2p1VC6r1zoaIThzwrU= =tGS/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miroslav at ludvik.cz Wed Feb 21 15:26:11 2007 From: miroslav at ludvik.cz (Miroslav Ludvik) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:26:11 +0100 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> But I need install workstation. Do you know any parameter? Mirek Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > Miroslav Ludvik schrieb: > >> How I run instalation ubuntu 6.10 in text mode? > >> > >> Mirek > >> > Download the alternate/server installation Ubuntu-ISO-image, burn it as > an image to cd, start the cd, choose server installation. A text-ubuntu > will be installed... > > mfg From idtest at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 15:27:19 2007 From: idtest at gmail.com (Dmitrij Ilchenko) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:27:19 +0200 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 200 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > The only reason is that i've got used to Ctrl+Shift switching already > > and I had it worked in Debian, so i see no reason why it shouldn't > > work in Ubuntu. Internal keyboard switcher of KDE doesn't offer a > > Ctrl+Shift combination, > > Yes it does. And even if not, you can custom define it. > > > and in Gnome when i enabled keyboar switcher > > applet - you know what i've got.... > > No I don't. I don't use Gnome. > > > No matter what do I use - > > KDE/Gnome/Xfce/IceWM - they are all X Window Systems. So, they "obey" > > to a config of X server (Xorg here in Ubuntu), so the layouts should > > switch as specified in X config, if not overwritten by internal > > application. Am i wrong somewhere? > > It's no longer all at the X level rather at the application level. I'm > no CS major so if someone could step in and clear up some facts I'd > appreciate it. Here's what I know: KDE can, at it's own level, > interpret keystrokes and insert the Hebrew/Russian charatcer as > desired. X doesn't even know that you've switched layouts. And some > applications, that are not KDE based, might not work as expected. > Firefox is a good example. In gnome, Hebrew keyboard shortcuts work as > expected in GTK most GTK apps. Firefox, despite being GTK, does not > recognize Hebrew keyboard shortcuts. It's an application bug. > > > So, again. The topic is - i want to get Ctrl+Shift switching of > > keyboard layouts work. It doesn't. Why? > > Because you're tying to do it with X. Set it in KDE/Gnome and see what happens. > > > About your side note - i've met the same problem... especcially > > painful when using ICQ, as for me. But really in this case I only know > > 2 solutions: > > 1) get used that if you're in Hebrew, the program won't do the "paste" > > action if you press Ctrl+V :(; > > 2) setup something like xneur or internal applets of desktop > > environments to track layouts in different windows separately, so if > > you switched to OpenOffice and written something in Hebrew copied it > > somehow, then swithced back to mail client where you had English > > turned on, and pasted it by pressing Ctrl+V, it will paste :) As i > > know, xneur works both in gnome and KDE, and internal Gnome applet has > > a feature of "remember layouts of every window" > > In gnome apps the shortcuts work as expected, so I'll file a bug at KDE. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html > http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_firewall.html Oh, thanks. Maybe so. I am not really sure that i'm right about X, so i will try to use internal KDE/Gnome features. But, as i know, KDE can't use "bare" combinations of Ctrl+Shift,Ctrl+Alt and so on for any shortcut. And in Gnome.... I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu today, and we'll see if my problem really appears only after enabling internal keyboard switching in Gnome. If so - i'll fire a bug. But i don't know where to - ubuntu or gnome. i'm a newbie in reporting bugs and asking questions in mailing lists.... P.S. As i know, those internal switchers are only frontends to xkeymap or xmodmap(i don't exactly remember the utility name), that are used from console to manipulate xkb. Why do i think so? Because they use the same options, as xkb offers and i managed to enable debugging info of that switching applet in Gnome, and when errors occured it pointed out that it cannot execute this utility with specific parameters. If someone clears facts, i would appreciate that, too. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Wed Feb 21 15:41:37 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:41:37 -0500 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> Message-ID: <200702211041.37356.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:26, Miroslav Ludvik wrote: > Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > > Miroslav Ludvik schrieb: > > >> How I run instalation ubuntu 6.10 in text mode? > > >> > > >> Mirek > > > > Download the alternate/server installation Ubuntu-ISO-image, burn it as > > an image to cd, start the cd, choose server installation. A text-ubuntu > > will be installed... > > > > mfg > But I need install workstation. > > Do you know any parameter? > > Mirek > After doing the text mode install, then either: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop depending on your preference. Scott K From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 21 15:57:25 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:57:25 +1100 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> Message-ID: <20070222025725.6d930280.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:26:11 +0100 "Miroslav Ludvik" wrote: > But I need install workstation. > > Do you know any parameter? If you use the "alternate" CD, the standard installation will give you a graphical install with Gnome ( the Ubuntu Desktop), just like the "Desktop" live CD - the only difference is the installer, which is in text mode. This installer is more likely to work with low RAM machines than the Desktop CD graphical installer, and is more flexible in the choices you can make. The "alternate" CD also gives you the option to install a "bare bones" system without any graphical interface, but if you just hit the enter key when the menu appears on boot-up, it will give you the same final system as the live/Desktop CD. I hope this explains the difference. Peter From jpr_programs at yahoo.com Wed Feb 21 16:04:44 2007 From: jpr_programs at yahoo.com (Bogdan Popescu) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:04:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Installing a TV tuner card Message-ID: <906159.52652.qm@web35711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello! I use "Ubuntu 6.10" for several weeks (so I'm a beginner in Linux). I've managed to make all the hardware work fine except my TV tuner card. It is an "Acorp Y878" with the "BT878" chipset and "Philips" tuner. I've tried to install "tvtime", but all I see is a blue screen with the "No signal" text on it, no matter what changes I make in the menu. As I mentioned above, I'm a novice with "Linux" and I don't know what to do next... I've tried posting on the forums and entering the chat room, but, besides of installing "tvtime", I got no other usefull information. So, if there's anyone who can help me, please tell me what to do. Oh, and another thing I forgot to mention: I'm sure I have good aerial signal (CATV to be more accurate) and the card works just fine under "Windows '98". --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miroslav at ludvik.cz Wed Feb 21 16:15:35 2007 From: miroslav at ludvik.cz (Miroslav Ludvik) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:15:35 +0100 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <20070222025725.6d930280.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> <20070222025725.6d930280.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45DC7027.6060407@ludvik.cz> I want use text installation from CD ubuntu 6.10. It is possible? Mirek Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:26:11 +0100 > "Miroslav Ludvik" wrote: > > >> But I need install workstation. >> >> Do you know any parameter? >> > > If you use the "alternate" CD, the standard installation will give you a > graphical install with Gnome ( the Ubuntu Desktop), just like the > "Desktop" live CD - the only difference is the installer, which is in text > mode. This installer is more likely to work with low RAM machines than the > Desktop CD graphical installer, and is more flexible in the choices you > can make. > > The "alternate" CD also gives you the option to install a "bare bones" > system without any graphical interface, but if you just hit the enter key > when the menu appears on boot-up, it will give you the same final > system as the live/Desktop CD. > > I hope this explains the difference. > > Peter > > From munita at ifir.edu.ar Wed Feb 21 16:32:11 2007 From: munita at ifir.edu.ar (Flavio Munita) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:32:11 -0300 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <45DC7027.6060407@ludvik.cz> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <20070222025725.6d930280.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DC7027.6060407@ludvik.cz> Message-ID: <200702211332.11920.munita@ifir.edu.ar> Hi, You can use the alternate CD to install in text mode. Flavio On Wednesday 21 February 2007 13:15, Miroslav Ludvik wrote: > I want use text installation from CD ubuntu 6.10. It is possible? > > Mirek > > Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:26:11 +0100 > > > > "Miroslav Ludvik" wrote: > >> But I need install workstation. > >> > >> Do you know any parameter? > > > > If you use the "alternate" CD, the standard installation will give you a > > graphical install with Gnome ( the Ubuntu Desktop), just like the > > "Desktop" live CD - the only difference is the installer, which is in > > text mode. This installer is more likely to work with low RAM machines > > than the Desktop CD graphical installer, and is more flexible in the > > choices you can make. > > > > The "alternate" CD also gives you the option to install a "bare bones" > > system without any graphical interface, but if you just hit the enter key > > when the menu appears on boot-up, it will give you the same final > > system as the live/Desktop CD. > > > > I hope this explains the difference. > > > > Peter From kristian.frisk at aland.net Wed Feb 21 16:51:12 2007 From: kristian.frisk at aland.net (Kristian Frisk) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:21:12 +0530 Subject: installing ubuntu through network cable from a Windows xp machine. In-Reply-To: <20070221140717.1ee6b8c3@n428> References: <24426c0702210448o12202f68rfeed5cc7c05474ca@mail.gmail.com> <20070221140717.1ee6b8c3@n428> Message-ID: <24426c0702210851h344de237p9c837526f6caa6ee@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/07, Kristian Rink wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Kris; > > ["Kristian Frisk" @ Wed, 21 Feb 2007 > 18:18:15 +0530] > [...] > > "Error. Can't bind the BOOTP port! > > Either you do not have necessary privilege or a BOOTP deamon is > > already started or IP configuration has changed. > > bind returns error -1, GetLastError 10048" > > Pressing ok in that dialog gives a screen with several: > > "Recv error 10038 [date,time and numbers]" > [...] > > Shots in the dark: > > - - You do have administrative permissions and surely no other bootp > daemon running, right? :) Yes. The machine acting server runs windows xp with only only user, which has administrative permissions. I'm not entirely sure about if another bootp deamon is running, but I went through the whole list of processes (checking them with google) and no one of them said anything which would point to that. Unfortunately I cant use the other computer more to day but thanks a lot for your input, really appreciate it a lot, and will get back to it again tomorrow. Hope you are here then too :) Nice name bye the way ;) - - Did you configure tftpd32 to listen just on the interface relevant in > your setup (see [1] for more details...)? > > - - Do you have any other tools in place that probably are listening on > the bootp ports already? Check netstat -anb to see what happens. > > > Cheers, > Kris > > [1] http://caromet.home.ro/pxe.htm > > - -- > Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ > jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 > "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together > is the beginning of a new reality." 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URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 21 16:55:01 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:55:01 +1100 Subject: Instalation in text mode In-Reply-To: <45DC7027.6060407@ludvik.cz> References: <45DC588A.4090804@ludvik.cz> <45DC5A50.8000802@gmx.de> <45DC6493.8020903@ludvik.cz> <20070222025725.6d930280.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DC7027.6060407@ludvik.cz> Message-ID: <20070222035501.a8f57496.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:15:35 +0100 "Miroslav Ludvik" wrote: > I want use text installation from CD ubuntu 6.10. It is possible? There are a few CD types including: * Ubuntu Desktop ( probably the one that you mean ) * Ubuntu Alternate ( the text mode installer disk) The Desktop CD has no text mode install The Alternate CD is a text mode installer The "Alternate" CD is available for download from mirrors listed at http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download Or more directly from http://releases.ubuntu.cz/edgy/ Since you appear to be in the Czech Republic Peter From lemsx1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 17:11:42 2007 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luigi) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:11:42 -0500 Subject: /dev/sda1 --> /dev/hda1 ??? In-Reply-To: <45DB6641.1090307@tiem.utk.edu> References: <45DB6641.1090307@tiem.utk.edu> Message-ID: The kernel shipped by Ubuntu is not the same as the vanilla version that you would download from kernel.org. That said, there are many things that might be different. In your particular case, I think you are dealing with the now infamous libata or whatever its name is. This is the code that's meant to replace the now archice ide-scsi stuff for the kernel. In short, all drives are now handled in the same way that SCSI disks are. Which is good and bad depending on who you ask. It's definitely good for the people using SATA disks to boot their systems. And it keeps the naming of disks somewhat uniformed. It's bad because it breaks some older ways of thinking (old sysadmins) and systems running XFS (filesystems) used to just die (it happened to me; see old bugs in Malone if interested). If 2.6.20.x works for you, congrats. However, if I were you, I'd simply backport the audio driver that you want to 2.6.15* (or whatever kernel was shipped with Ubuntu), than taking the route of installing a totally new kernel. Dealing with kernels is a Risky Business (R), especially if you care about your system. just my $0.02 p.s. I'm dying to start playing with 2.6.20.x myself, just because of the KVM hypervisor support. On 2/20/07, Michael S. Peek wrote: > > Hi Ubuntu gurus, > > I've just taken the plunge and compiled my own kernel -- 2.6.20.1 -- to > reconcile a problem with buggy sound drivers. (Now granted that the > last time I compiled a linux kernel, it was for version 1.2.13, but I > followed the instructions and got a pair of *.deb packages. Kudos to > all documentation writers out there!) After installing said kernel, I > found that I couldn't boot. A little more tweaking and I found that in > order to boot, I had to change: > > root=/dev/sda1 > > to: > > root=/dev/hda1 > > Um... Is this bad or something? Why does /dev/sda1 not work for my > custom kernel when it works for the distribution kernel? Did I set > something wrong in my kernel config file? 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URL: From lsof at nodata.co.uk Wed Feb 21 18:37:21 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:37:21 +0100 Subject: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <45DC36C9.8080602@freakinabox.com> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> <45DC36C9.8080602@freakinabox.com> Message-ID: <1172083041.19621.0.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Mittwoch, den 21.02.2007, 12:10 +0000 schrieb GyroTech: > Bazooka Joe wrote: > > man rsync > > > > Thanks a lot :-) Can rsync run as a background task, automatically > updating as changes happen or should I just add it as a cron job?? > > Thanks > cron. From lsof at nodata.co.uk Wed Feb 21 18:37:59 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:37:59 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu VMWare Export to others (best solution?) In-Reply-To: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> References: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172083079.19621.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Dienstag, den 20.02.2007, 16:51 -0500 schrieb Michael Matthews: > First of all, does anybody know if a VM that is sent to another person > will get a whole new UUID? My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but > this little bit of information would help. > > My problem is, when I copy an Ubuntu VM, the 2 network interfaces that > I'm using turn from eth0 and eth1, to eth2 and eth3. I know that I > can edit /etc/iftab (or write a script) to replace the hardware > addresses in this file with those of the actual virtual pieces of > hardware, but since this VM is going to be used by other people, I > didn't want to add this step. I was wondering if there is a much > deeper way to fix Ubuntu's handling of the new interfaces. What I'd > really like is to have /etc/iftab repopulated, so does anybody know > how to do that? > > The other solution that I've seen is to edit or > delete /etc/udev/rules.d/25-iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS > like the system is working just fine, but are there any gotchas to > doing this? I don't really know how this file is used by udev in > Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause inconsistent naming of the > interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be hardware address > 00:...:01 sometimes, and 00:...:02 another time, switching with eth1). > Does anybody know for sure? It certainly doesn't change > the /etc/iftab file like I'd like it to. > > Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to make a single Ubuntu VM > installation that is configured to work for my purposes, and > distribute it to others. These people may actually be on the same > network as me, and thus they require a new MAC address. That's why > I'm asking about the VMWare UUID's, because I know the MAC addresses > are based off of these. However, when I download something like the > Ubuntu-based "Browser > Appliance" ( http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), neither am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC address problem. > > Thanks for any help! I'm going to be in contact with VMWare as > well. Blank iftab + save. From burner at suppressingfire.org Wed Feb 21 18:54:44 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:54:44 -0500 Subject: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> Message-ID: <1172084084.23478.9.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 22:01 +0000, GyroTech wrote: > Is it possibly to set up a system where any file created and\or changed > in any directory is duplicated in another directory ?? I only need file > creation & modification to be considered, not deletion. You might also consider dar (though I agree, rsync with cron is going to be a good solution). http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/dar There's also dirvish, which uses rsync: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/admin/dirvish > Thanks, > > GT > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Feb 21 19:05:05 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:05:05 +0000 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <1172083041.19621.0.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> <45DC36C9.8080602@freakinabox.com> <1172083041.19621.0.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <45DC97E1.6010106@yandex.ru> nodata wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 21.02.2007, 12:10 +0000 schrieb GyroTech: >> Bazooka Joe wrote: >>> man rsync >>> >> Thanks a lot :-) Can rsync run as a background task, automatically >> updating as changes happen or should I just add it as a cron job?? >> >> Thanks >> > > cron. > > AFAIK rsync itself won't do that, you'd need some kind of system daemon and I don't think cron is up to it. Only thing I know of that can do what you're talking about is called launchd, this uses XML formatted plist files and can invoke rsync when contents of a specified point are accessed/altered. Thing is, this is a super-daemon and only for OS X, but I do think the source was released, so maybe you could adapt it!! From antoniogromero at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 19:24:09 2007 From: antoniogromero at gmail.com (Antonio =?UTF-8?B?R29uesOhbGV6?=) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:24:09 +0100 Subject: Howto Thin Client In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702202027m2279339as883cd1be831b26ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702202027m2279339as883cd1be831b26ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070221202409.152549d7@isis> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:27:00 +0800 "Charles Yao" wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I find a Howto to set up a small thin client network? > Have a look at this: http://soleup.eup.uva.es/mediawiki/index.php/TCOS/en > Charles > From burner at suppressingfire.org Wed Feb 21 19:27:33 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:27:33 -0500 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <45DC97E1.6010106@yandex.ru> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> <6b789da50702201601w59334b56md8bc88a188d5f2a0@mail.gmail.com> <45DC36C9.8080602@freakinabox.com> <1172083041.19621.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <45DC97E1.6010106@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1172086054.23478.12.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 19:05 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > nodata wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 21.02.2007, 12:10 +0000 schrieb GyroTech: > >> Bazooka Joe wrote: > >>> man rsync > >>> > >> Thanks a lot :-) Can rsync run as a background task, automatically > >> updating as changes happen or should I just add it as a cron job?? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > > > > cron. > > > > > > > AFAIK rsync itself won't do that, you'd need some kind of system daemon > and I don't think cron is up to it. Only thing I know of that can do > what you're talking about is called launchd, this uses XML formatted > plist files and can invoke rsync when contents of a specified point are > accessed/altered. Thing is, this is a super-daemon and only for OS X, > but I do think the source was released, so maybe you could adapt it!! What's wrong with cron? The only problem I can think of is that with cron you might end up with two rsync processes running at the same time, so just make sure to avoid this situation by putting enough minutes between the jobs or by wrapping the rsync call in a script that does a little locking to ensure that two rsync procs won't run at the same time. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Wed Feb 21 19:41:42 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:41:42 -0500 Subject: problem with Kismet In-Reply-To: <45DC4C75.6020008@ludvik.cz> References: <45DC4C75.6020008@ludvik.cz> Message-ID: <20070221144142.06d8ce80@chisel> Miroslav Ludvik wrote: > kismet > Server options: none > Client options: none > Starting server... > Waiting for server to start before starting UI... > FATAL: Could not find user 'your_user_here' for dropping > priviledges. Make sure you have a valid user set for 'suiduser' in > your config file. See the 'Installation & Security' and > 'Configuration' sections of the README file for more information. > [1] + Done(1) ${BIN}/kismet_server --silent > ${server} > > Please > advice me. I (almost) hate to be this way, but the answer is right there in front of your eyes. The error itself tells you exactly what the problem is, and where to find information on solving it. You need to understand that kismet isn't a graphical click-click-and-go utility. It requires a little effort on your part, and a little RTFM time. If you make that investment it's a powerful networking diagnostic and discovery tool that will even speak to you in a sexy[1] female voice. ;-) man kismet ls /usr/share/doc/kismet sudo vim /etc/kismet/kismet.conf sudo vim /etc/kismet/kismet_drone.conf sudo vim /etc/kismet/kismet_ui.conf [1] ...for *some* definition of "sexy". -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bloss) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:06:39 -0500 Subject: spamd & claws mail In-Reply-To: <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> References: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> Message-ID: <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> Nikolai wrote: > The actual error when running sudo apt-get install spampd is: > > An override for "/var/cache/spampd" already exists, aborting > Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /var/cache/spampd > An override for "/etc/spampd.conf" already exists, aborting > Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /etc/spampd.conf > * ERROR: Insufficient privileges. Retry as root > invoke-rc.d: initscript spampd, action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing spampd (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4 > Errors were encountered while processing: > spampd > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > "Insufficient privileges?" I'm running it with sudo... What's going > on? There was a problem with version 2.30-6, but it should have been (was reported to have been anyway) resolved. Check the version you're trying to install. It should be 2.30-11 if your Edgy is the same as my Edgy. ;) As strange as "root can't do that" first sounds at first it's very easy to demonstrate. Create a text file as root, then 'chmod 444' it. You'll be able to open/copy/read it same as everyone else, but not edit it, even as God. :) Side note: I prefer Bogofilter for use with Claws-Mail. It's faster by a very noticeable difference, just as good at managing spam (maybe a little better in some respects), and you don't need another daemon eating up system resources. There's a very fine plugin for Claws-Mail that's compiled/installed if you have Bogofilter installed to. :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Bloss) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:23:41 -0500 Subject: Weird entries in /var/log/syslog In-Reply-To: <45DC0AF4.2060206@dnainternet.net> References: <45D48AD6.70004@dnainternet.net> <20070215151801.5c6df569@chisel> <45D54399.4030001@dnainternet.net> <20070216065002.0daabcab@chisel> <45DC0AF4.2060206@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <20070221152341.22b58698@chisel> Janne Jokitalo wrote: > > As I read it this is largely a 3Com issue, and not isolated to > > Ubuntu. > > Right, this is unfortunate. > > > My "ideal solution" would be to replace the NIC with something not > > 3Com of you can, mostly because NICs are just that cheap. > > This would not be preferable, since I only have 3com cards spare. :) > And besides, they work fast and are reliable. Agreed. I generally choose 3Com over other NIC's when I can. But I *might* consider a $9 Realtek el-cheapo if it wasn't mission critical and it enabled some feature I wanted. ;) > > > I did see some discussion about a kernel patch, but I doubt it's > > worth messing with custom kernels that will have to be re-patched > > and recompiled every update, unless you're *deeply* in love with > > your network monitor. ;) > > Yes I found that too. But I'm not _that_ much in love with it, so I > just left it out. Now how did I know that's what would happen... ;-) Those little flashing lights are for sissies and children anyway. Real admins read log files. REAL admins can spot network problems just by feeling the vibrations in network cables, or from the subtly strange odor rotten bytes give off. Just keep telling yourself that when you start missing your network monitor applet. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Beckers) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:24:54 +0100 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Automatically duplicate files In-Reply-To: <45DC97E1.6010106@yandex.ru> References: <45DB6FC3.9040005@freakinabox.com> <1172083041.19621.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <45DC97E1.6010106@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <200702212124.54505.hjb-news@onlinehome.de> Hi, > nodata wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 21.02.2007, 12:10 +0000 schrieb GyroTech: > >> Bazooka Joe wrote: > >>> man rsync > >> > >> Thanks a lot :-) Can rsync run as a background task, automatically > >> updating as changes happen or should I just add it as a cron job?? > >> > >> Thanks > > > > cron. > search freshmeat.net for inotify and incron. HTH hjb From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Wed Feb 21 20:27:27 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:27:27 -0500 Subject: spamd & claws mail In-Reply-To: <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> References: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> Message-ID: <20070221152727.3bec3539@chisel> > As strange as "root can't do that" first sounds at first it's very As opposed to how strange it sounds the second first time... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 20:46:39 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:46:39 -0500 Subject: X11 Message-ID: <218400F0-E159-489D-8E4F-28EE1108C9CA@gmail.com> what libraries do I need to install to build X11 applications? From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 21 21:08:05 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:08:05 -0800 Subject: Firefox handling .kml and other file types In-Reply-To: <1172087489.5988.15.camel@steven-hm.hfg> References: <1172087489.5988.15.camel@steven-hm.hfg> Message-ID: On 02/21/2007 11:51 AM, Steven Heimann wrote: > I am having some trouble getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Edgy to handle > google-earth .kml files correctly. When pointed to a .kml file firefox > just displays the text of the file without asking me if I want to save > the file and/or use another application to open the file. I would like > to configure it to use googleearth to open the file. > > I have tried looking in Edit - Preferences - Content - Filetypes - > Manage without success. > > Could someone please explain how to modify Firefox's behaviour with > various file types. > > Thank you > Steven > I recommend that you check on the Firefox newsgroup: news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.firefox or in the firefox forums: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38 That would be your best source for information on Firefox. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 21 23:50:18 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:50:18 -0500 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <20070220184130.GA12246@localdomain> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> <45D63CD6.8050304@gatech.edu> <20070220184130.GA12246@localdomain> Message-ID: <45DCDABA.3030104@gatech.edu> Felix 'buebo' Kakrow wrote: > Am 17.02.07 00:23 schrieb Matthew Flaschen : >> Even easier. Just open up the psuedo-url: >> >> fonts:///System/ >> >> and drag the fonts in. >> > Or just copy them into ~/.fonts/ which is afaik just the directory the > above pseudo-url opens. No, the System fonts are accessible to everyone on the system. I forget the real file path. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Feb 21 23:59:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:59:37 -0500 Subject: Firefox handling .kml and other file types In-Reply-To: <1172087489.5988.15.camel@steven-hm.hfg> References: <1172087489.5988.15.camel@steven-hm.hfg> Message-ID: <45DCDCE9.4070200@gatech.edu> Steven Heimann wrote: > I am having some trouble getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Edgy to handle > google-earth .kml files correctly. When pointed to a .kml file firefox > just displays the text of the file without asking me if I want to save > the file and/or use another application to open the file. I would like > to configure it to use googleearth to open the file. > > I have tried looking in Edit - Preferences - Content - Filetypes - > Manage without success. > > Could someone please explain how to modify Firefox's behaviour with > various file types. I've always found Firefox very dicey in this area; I'm also using 1.5. Sorry I can't help. Matt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Thu Feb 22 00:06:41 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:06:41 -0800 Subject: How to add TTF font files to 6.10 ? In-Reply-To: <45DCDABA.3030104@gatech.edu> References: <20070216231243.024f6bbf@ribeye.akwireless.net> <2ee9e5d30702161511h6476d199gcc1e293aeaa328c1@mail.gmail.com> <45D63CD6.8050304@gatech.edu> <20070220184130.GA12246@localdomain> <45DCDABA.3030104@gatech.edu> Message-ID: On 02/21/2007 03:50 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Felix 'buebo' Kakrow wrote: >> Am 17.02.07 00:23 schrieb Matthew Flaschen : >>> Even easier. Just open up the psuedo-url: >>> >>> fonts:///System/ >>> >>> and drag the fonts in. >>> >> Or just copy them into ~/.fonts/ which is afaik just the directory the >> above pseudo-url opens. > > No, the System fonts are accessible to everyone on the system. I forget > the real file path. > > Matthew Flaschen > > Do: sudo fc-cache -fv to update your fonts cache & you'll see where they all go :-) From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Thu Feb 22 00:10:49 2007 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:10:49 +0200 Subject: gTali has issues with scores in Feisty? Message-ID: <45DCDF89.4020809@dnainternet.net> Hey all, just wanting a confirmation for gTali in Feisty, I'm not able to use highscore saving, is anybody else having the same problem, or is it just my machine? Information: jaska at ardbeg:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=feisty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu feisty (development branch)" jaska at ardbeg:~$ gtali --version GNOME gtali 2.17.91 jaska at ardbeg:~$ apt-cache search gtali gnome-games - games for the GNOME desktop jaska at ardbeg:~$ apt-cache policy gnome-games gnome-games: Installed: 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status -- Jaska From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 01:24:45 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:24:45 -0800 Subject: VMware Message-ID: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> This is not really a Ubuntu specific question, but a pointer in the right direction would be great. I've looked around the web about VMware but I think my questions are so basic that the answers are assumed . . . or I could be looking in the wrong places. I read an article recently about maintaining a network of windows desktops by running linux on each desktop and then using Vmware to load windows on each one from a single windows XP image maintained on a server. I volunteer with an educational non profit that maintains a computer lab. The lab computers are quite old (and have been "ridden hard") and need replacement. Because of the need to reimage the drives when students break the windows install, our computer guy says it is important to keep a number of identical boxes, rather than replace them as needed the way non profit organizations are likely to do. So here is the two questions: I assume that using Linux to autoload vmware and then a windows image at boot time would result in much lower maintinance. If the windows "install" were broken, a reboot fixes it. Since the students would presumably have no access to the OS, the linux installs would require less maintenance too. Is that right? Since the windows image would load on top of vmware, the windows image would not be hardware specific, if we ended up with several different system configurations, they would all work with the master XP image. Is that right too? Thanks again. From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Thu Feb 22 04:13:02 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:13:02 -0600 Subject: VMware References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Patton Echols wrote: > I assume that using Linux to autoload vmware and then a windows image at > boot time would result in much lower maintinance. If the windows > "install" were broken, a reboot fixes it. Yes, and you don't even need to reboot. VMware can revert to a snapshot at any time. > Since the students would > presumably have no access to the OS, the linux installs would require > less maintenance too. Is that right? Sure, the students can do anything they want inside the virtual machine and it won't affect the host machine at all. > Since the windows image would load on top of vmware, the windows image > would not be hardware specific, if we ended up with several different > system configurations, they would all work with the master XP image. Is > that right too? Yes, that's true. There are two things that I would be concerned about. The first is performance--you do pay a price for the virtualization layer, and you say these are old boxes. Second is licensing--you'll still need a Windows license for each virtual machine. Dave Dave Grundgeiger CodeNouveau, LLC Develop .NET Software with Open-Source Tools http://www.codenouveau.com From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 22 04:49:38 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:49:38 -0600 Subject: [Dapper] Printing real-sized negatives of things Message-ID: <45DD20E2.4070100@fahrlander.net> I have a project to make control panels for my trailer. I'm getting close to needing to develop the artwork, and I only have Dapper in the house, to say nothing of CorelDraw or Photoshop/whatever. I need to be able to print "white" letters on a black background, and be able to align the artwork with the holes to be drilled, etc. Is TheGimp the only simple way to do that? I can always develop a JPG that Walgreen's or CVS can print in color... Thanks! From burner at suppressingfire.org Thu Feb 22 04:52:32 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:52:32 -0500 Subject: gTali has issues with scores in Feisty? In-Reply-To: <45DCDF89.4020809@dnainternet.net> References: <45DCDF89.4020809@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <1172119952.10268.8.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 02:10 +0200, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > Hey all, Howdy! > just wanting a confirmation for gTali in Feisty, I'm not able to use > highscore saving, is anybody else having the same problem, or is it just my > machine? The best place to sort these things out is right in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bugs If you don't find your problem listed there already, file a new report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+filebug Thanks! mike > Information: > > jaska at ardbeg:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=feisty > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu feisty (development branch)" > > jaska at ardbeg:~$ gtali --version > GNOME gtali 2.17.91 > > jaska at ardbeg:~$ apt-cache search gtali > gnome-games - games for the GNOME desktop > > jaska at ardbeg:~$ apt-cache policy gnome-games > gnome-games: > Installed: 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 > Candidate: 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 > Version table: > *** 1:2.17.91-0ubuntu1 0 > 500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > > -- > Jaska > -- Michael R. 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My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but > > this little bit of information would help. > > > > My problem is, when I copy an Ubuntu VM, the 2 network interfaces that > > I'm using turn from eth0 and eth1, to eth2 and eth3. I know that I > > can edit /etc/iftab (or write a script) to replace the hardware > > addresses in this file with those of the actual virtual pieces of > > hardware, but since this VM is going to be used by other people, I > > didn't want to add this step. I was wondering if there is a much > > deeper way to fix Ubuntu's handling of the new interfaces. What I'd > > really like is to have /etc/iftab repopulated, so does anybody know > > how to do that? > > > > The other solution that I've seen is to edit or > > delete /etc/udev/rules.d/25-iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS > > like the system is working just fine, but are there any gotchas to > > doing this? I don't really know how this file is used by udev in > > Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause inconsistent naming of the > > interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be hardware address > > 00:...:01 sometimes, and 00:...:02 another time, switching with eth1). > > Does anybody know for sure? It certainly doesn't change > > the /etc/iftab file like I'd like it to. > > > > Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to make a single Ubuntu VM > > installation that is configured to work for my purposes, and > > distribute it to others. These people may actually be on the same > > network as me, and thus they require a new MAC address. That's why > > I'm asking about the VMWare UUID's, because I know the MAC addresses > > are based off of these. However, when I download something like the > > Ubuntu-based "Browser > > Appliance" ( > http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), neither > am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC address > problem. > > > > Thanks for any help! I'm going to be in contact with VMWare as > > well. > > Blank iftab + save. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com Thu Feb 22 05:22:15 2007 From: ubuntulist at thingbuilder.com (BBBB) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:22:15 -0600 Subject: [Dapper] Printing real-sized negatives of things References: <45DD20E2.4070100@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <057a01c75641$6a4b4810$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> You should be able to draw this acurately in Inkscape and export a bitmap for retail printing. HTH, Bradley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Fahrlander" To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: [Dapper] Printing real-sized negatives of things > > I have a project to make control panels for my trailer. I'm getting > close to needing to develop the artwork, and I only have Dapper in the > house, to say nothing of CorelDraw or Photoshop/whatever. > > I need to be able to print "white" letters on a black background, > and be able to align the artwork with the holes to be drilled, etc. > > Is TheGimp the only simple way to do that? I can always develop a > JPG that Walgreen's or CVS can print in color... > > Thanks! > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From erobererunc at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 05:23:55 2007 From: erobererunc at gmail.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:23:55 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu VMWare Export to others (best solution?) In-Reply-To: <1172083079.19621.2.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <775033410702201351x235a7216wfefa34bb23b6213d@mail.gmail.com> <1172083079.19621.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <775033410702212123l3c82cb76yd269cb7132276191@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, does this repopulate the iftab file though? That is, will I see the standard lines eth0 and eth1 with the new MAC addresses beside it? I'm still concerned about interface names persisting across reboots. I want them to persist forever, and if blanking the iftab file before powering down and transfering the VM will cause iftab to be repopulated with the new MAC addresses, then that's exactly what I want! On 2/21/07, nodata wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 20.02.2007, 16:51 -0500 schrieb Michael Matthews: > > First of all, does anybody know if a VM that is sent to another person > > will get a whole new UUID? My problems are mostly Ubuntu-related, but > > this little bit of information would help. > > > > My problem is, when I copy an Ubuntu VM, the 2 network interfaces that > > I'm using turn from eth0 and eth1, to eth2 and eth3. I know that I > > can edit /etc/iftab (or write a script) to replace the hardware > > addresses in this file with those of the actual virtual pieces of > > hardware, but since this VM is going to be used by other people, I > > didn't want to add this step. I was wondering if there is a much > > deeper way to fix Ubuntu's handling of the new interfaces. What I'd > > really like is to have /etc/iftab repopulated, so does anybody know > > how to do that? > > > > The other solution that I've seen is to edit or > > delete /etc/udev/rules.d/25-iftab.rules. I've done this, and it SEEMS > > like the system is working just fine, but are there any gotchas to > > doing this? I don't really know how this file is used by udev in > > Ubuntu. It seems like this could cause inconsistent naming of the > > interfaces across reboots (like eth0 will be hardware address > > 00:...:01 sometimes, and 00:...:02 another time, switching with eth1). > > Does anybody know for sure? It certainly doesn't change > > the /etc/iftab file like I'd like it to. > > > > Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to make a single Ubuntu VM > > installation that is configured to work for my purposes, and > > distribute it to others. These people may actually be on the same > > network as me, and thus they require a new MAC address. That's why > > I'm asking about the VMWare UUID's, because I know the MAC addresses > > are based off of these. However, when I download something like the > > Ubuntu-based "Browser > > Appliance" ( > http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/browserapp.html), neither > am I asked to create a new UUID, nor do I find a way to solve my MAC address > problem. > > > > Thanks for any help! I'm going to be in contact with VMWare as > > well. > > Blank iftab + save. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DaveM at Mich.Com Thu Feb 22 05:29:42 2007 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:29:42 -0500 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series In-Reply-To: <45DBBD77.1000700@gatech.edu> References: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20070222002748.7ca42898@pop.mich.com> At 10:33 PM 2/20/2007 , you wrote: >Dave M wrote: > > I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using Ubuntu > > v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. > > > > I am new at this so maybe I am looking at the wrong device? > > > > I assume it should be /dev/sda ? > >No, that's probably your hard drive. Try /dev/sg0. > >Matthew Flaschen I tried that and also /dev/sr0. I tried using cdrecord and it hangs. I cant kill the process without re-booting. ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Inter-networked computers give you freedom. The "Trusted Computing Platform" could take that freedom away. http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 22 06:07:03 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:07:03 +1100 Subject: X11 In-Reply-To: <218400F0-E159-489D-8E4F-28EE1108C9CA@gmail.com> References: <218400F0-E159-489D-8E4F-28EE1108C9CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070222170703.36f93bf9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:46:39 -0500 Erik Schmidt wrote: > what libraries do I need to install to build X11 applications? You could start with xlibs-dev - but it will also depend on whether you are building gtk, gtk2 or qt based apps. You will need the developmant libraries for those too, in that case. For example, if you run sudo apt-get build-dep sylpheed you will see that it needs libs of the form libgtk*-dev and so on. apt-cache search libgtk dev will show you some more gtk and gtk+ libs. Similar commands would show qt dev libs, and so on Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 22 06:18:20 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:18:20 +1100 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:13:02 -0600 "Dave Grundgeiger" wrote: > There are two things that I would be concerned about. The first is > performance--you do pay a price for the virtualization layer, and you say > these are old boxes. Second is licensing--you'll still need a Windows > license for each virtual machine. just an idea - what if the lab was set up with Edubuntu/ ltsp using all the boxes as thin clients, and running vmware only on the application server, which would be obviously a much more powerful machine ? In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, ( one license?) and assuming that the server has enough power to handle the thin clients all running from it, you also negate the performance hit from using old boxes. I have no idea if this would work - it just came to mind. Oliver? Any other Edubuntu / ltsp gurus? Peter Peter From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 06:34:41 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:34:41 -0800 Subject: VMware In-Reply-To: <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <45DD3981.1040608@comcast.net> On 02/21/2007 08:13 PM, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > There are two things that I would be concerned about. The first is > performance--you do pay a price for the virtualization layer, and you say > these are old boxes. Second is licensing--you'll still need a Windows > license for each virtual machine. > > Yes, I was aware of these problems. We have a local computer "recycling" center that does the whole extract metals routine, but also puts serviceable models back into use cheaply. I'm trying to get together an arrangement where they will find us late model machines that would be upgrades for us, even with the virtualization layer. I am told that they expect that they could replace our boxes over the course of a year. But not all mirror image boxes. That's why it is so important that virtualization layer make the windows image hardware generic. As for the licensing issue, the recyclers will be taking in licensed boxes and can transfer the license to us for a nominal fee. Thanks for your thoughts, I'll be doing some more research and see if this will work out for us. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Feb 22 06:45:55 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:45:55 -0500 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:13:02 -0600 > "Dave Grundgeiger" wrote: > >> There are two things that I would be concerned about. The first is >> performance--you do pay a price for the virtualization layer, and you say >> these are old boxes. Second is licensing--you'll still need a Windows >> license for each virtual machine. > > just an idea - what if the lab was set up with Edubuntu/ ltsp using all the > boxes as thin clients, and running vmware only on the application server, > which would be obviously a much more powerful machine ? > > In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, > ( one license?) I don't think so. Most of the Windows EULA's limit the number of clients that can connect to 5-10. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 06:47:18 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:47:18 -0800 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45DD3C76.10908@comcast.net> On 02/21/2007 10:18 PM, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:13:02 -0600 > "Dave Grundgeiger" wrote: > > >> There are two things that I would be concerned about. The first is >> performance--you do pay a price for the virtualization layer, and you say >> these are old boxes. Second is licensing--you'll still need a Windows >> license for each virtual machine. >> > > just an idea - what if the lab was set up with Edubuntu/ ltsp using all the > boxes as thin clients, and running vmware only on the application server, > which would be obviously a much more powerful machine ? > > In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, > ( one license?) and assuming that the server has enough power to handle the > thin clients all running from it, you also negate the performance hit from > using old boxes. > Interesting idea. It's not that there is _no_ budget for hardware. If the existing boxes could be preserved, the limited funding could be used for more of a server if that would really work. I do wonder about the license issue. I would think that to be legal you need a license for each concurrent instance, thin client or no. The existing boxes are running Win2000. > I have no idea if this would work - it just came to mind. > > Oliver? Any other Edubuntu / ltsp gurus? > > Peter > > Peter > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Feb 22 06:50:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:50:52 -0500 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20070222002748.7ca42898@pop.mich.com> References: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> <4.2.2.20070222002748.7ca42898@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <45DD3D4C.40501@gatech.edu> Dave M wrote: > At 10:33 PM 2/20/2007 , you wrote: >> Dave M wrote: >>> I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using Ubuntu >>> v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. >>> >>> I am new at this so maybe I am looking at the wrong device? >>> >>> I assume it should be /dev/sda ? >> No, that's probably your hard drive. Try /dev/sg0. >> >> Matthew Flaschen > > I tried that and also /dev/sr0. > > I tried using cdrecord and it hangs. Hmm, I don't know. Try cdrecord dev=help . Does that crash? Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 06:58:36 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:58:36 -0800 Subject: [OT] Re: vnc access In-Reply-To: References: <140968.55607.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200702180716.57798.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <1171804249.11439.4.camel@warjack> <200702181031.04526.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DD3F1C.5070103@comcast.net> On 02/18/2007 11:42 AM, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Paul Kaplan a écrit : > >> On Sunday 18 February 2007 8:10:49 am S. William Schulz wrote: >> > concerning Ubuntu but you're asking us to tell you how to bypass your > corporate firewall. I don't mind telling you but you must know that it's > considered as piracy. > Though you'd probably not be prosecuted, bypassing a corporate firewall is certainly grounds for termination. Unless you take this issue up with the corporate IT person . . . From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 22 07:02:26 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:02:26 +1100 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <45DD3C76.10908@comcast.net> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C76.10908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070222180226.c1054ffa.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:47:18 -0800 Patton Echols wrote: > I do wonder about the > license issue. I would think that to be legal you need a license for > each concurrent instance, thin client or no. Hmm - as Matthew pointed out, apparently the MS EULA is craftily designed to stop people doing exactly what I was thinking of ... it figures. Peter From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Feb 22 08:08:27 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:08:27 -0600 Subject: [Dapper] Printing real-sized negatives of things In-Reply-To: <057a01c75641$6a4b4810$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> References: <45DD20E2.4070100@fahrlander.net> <057a01c75641$6a4b4810$4c01a8c0@dvdburner> Message-ID: <45DD4F7B.6030400@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 BBBB wrote: > You should be able to draw this acurately in Inkscape and export a bitmap > for retail printing. Cool; I'll give that a shot, thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF3U966PLtRzZbdhYRAh6EAJ9KvT9udlThgNZ/tt8gvjeyvSJ0VACfR3YH VxF8NoSJSGChzt6X2dBMH3o= =1V/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rl5 at shinyblue.net Thu Feb 22 10:28:09 2007 From: rl5 at shinyblue.net (Rich Lott) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:28:09 +0000 Subject: USB device: "Safely Remove" not safe; not sync'ed? In-Reply-To: <200702201102.29376.rl5@shinyblue.net> References: <200702201102.29376.rl5@shinyblue.net> Message-ID: <200702221028.10491.rl5@shinyblue.net> Oh, I get it. I'm right, it's a massive bug, with no plans to sort it out before KDE4! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/70417 over and out. rich On Tuesday 20 February 2007 11:02:29 Rich Lott wrote: > Hi > > Edgy has a Safely Remove action in the context menu for removable usb > media. > > However I've noticed that if I copy a large amount of data onto a usb1 > device, choose Safely Remove immediately, then the icon disappears, the > device says disconnected, yet the files are not copied and no > error/information comes up. > > I'm worried about what state this leaves the file system in, is it > dangerous? Is this a bug? > > Also, is there a way to call sync before indicating that a device is safe > to remove? I don't want to have to mount the device(s) with the sync option > because this gets v. slow to work with on a usb1 device. > > thanks, > > rich. From psalmos at swissinfo.org Thu Feb 22 10:41:00 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:41:00 +1000 Subject: spamd & claws mail In-Reply-To: <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> References: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> Message-ID: <20070222204100.05661ba6@picasso> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:06:39 -0500 "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > Side note: I prefer Bogofilter for use with Claws-Mail. It's faster by > a very noticeable difference, just as good at managing spam (maybe a > little better in some respects), and you don't need another daemon > eating up system resources. There's a very fine plugin for Claws-Mail > that's compiled/installed if you have Bogofilter installed to. :) Alright, I enabled Bogofilter instead even though I've managed to fix SpamAssassin (turns out it didn't need spampd daemon after all). I knew it was a *lot* faster (from reading reports about it on the web) but I couldn't make it work at first (in Dapper) and now I think it works (it didn't give me any errors when mail was received but just mentioned it will have to learn what is spam...). Thanks, Nikolai From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Feb 22 11:46:09 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:46:09 +0000 Subject: [Dapper] Printing real-sized negatives of things In-Reply-To: <45DD20E2.4070100@fahrlander.net> References: <45DD20E2.4070100@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45DD8281.2070309@yandex.ru> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > I have a project to make control panels for my trailer. I'm getting > close to needing to develop the artwork, and I only have Dapper in the > house, to say nothing of CorelDraw or Photoshop/whatever. > > I need to be able to print "white" letters on a black background, > and be able to align the artwork with the holes to be drilled, etc. > > Is TheGimp the only simple way to do that? I can always develop a > JPG that Walgreen's or CVS can print in color... > > Thanks! > Might want to give inkscape a try. Or even OpenOffice Draw might do what you want. From kaushalshriyan at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 12:07:14 2007 From: kaushalshriyan at gmail.com (Kaushal Shriyan) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:37:14 +0530 Subject: xchat: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Message-ID: <6b16fb4c0702220407p5fa90e6cr3c31149616c8dae4@mail.gmail.com> Hi ALL I am faced with the above error xchat: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Not able to figure out How to fix this My version of Ubuntu Linux is Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Please let me know if you need any further information Thanks and Regards Kaushal From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 12:32:33 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:32:33 -0500 Subject: X11 In-Reply-To: <20070222170703.36f93bf9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <218400F0-E159-489D-8E4F-28EE1108C9CA@gmail.com> <20070222170703.36f93bf9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: I'm very new to Linux and X11, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what if I'm trying to use Athena? On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:46:39 -0500 > Erik Schmidt wrote: > >> what libraries do I need to install to build X11 applications? > > You could start with xlibs-dev - but it will also depend on > whether you > are building gtk, gtk2 or qt based apps. You will need the developmant > libraries for those too, in that case. > > For example, if you run > > sudo apt-get build-dep sylpheed > > you will see that it needs libs of the form libgtk*-dev and so on. > > apt-cache search libgtk dev will show you some more gtk and gtk > + libs. > > Similar commands would show qt dev libs, and so on > > Peter > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users From ogra at ubuntu.com Thu Feb 22 12:41:36 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:41:36 +0100 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Do, 2007-02-22 at 01:45 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, > > ( one license?) > > I don't think so. Most of the Windows EULA's limit the number of > clients that can connect to 5-10. thats exactly the reason why we decided to never ship wine on the edubuntu CD, you get in a horrible gray (or even dark black legal area with ltsp and windows apps (usually the apps you purchase for windows have very similar licenses to teh eula ... or even worse ones)) froa technical POV booting a windows image instead of a linux chroot should be possible, i saw some proprieatry solutions doing it ... but never played with it myself ... partimage might be a good candidate to look at, with a little glue of a PXE menu and dhcp integration it should be possible to boot windows natively over the net from an image instead of having teh vmware overhead on the server ;) indeed i'll happily accept and review patches for additional options in ltsp but wont provide anything in the default setup that gets users into illegal activities ... :) ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try /dev/sg0. >> That's not likely correct. sg0 should be a "scsi generic" device, which is a character, not a block, device. sg0 seems to be some sort of control device, as there generally seems to be such a device associated with each scsi block device. > I tried that and also /dev/sr0. That's a symlink to /dev/scd0 on my system, which is the correct device. hal-device-manager is probably the best way to find what it should be for your system. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Feb 22 13:17:47 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:17:47 -0500 Subject: xchat: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory In-Reply-To: <6b16fb4c0702220407p5fa90e6cr3c31149616c8dae4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b16fb4c0702220407p5fa90e6cr3c31149616c8dae4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DD97FB.7010400@gatech.edu> Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi ALL > > I am faced with the above error xchat: error while loading shared > libraries: libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory > > Not able to figure out How to fix this > > My version of Ubuntu Linux is Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS > > Please let me know if you need any further information xchat doesn't seem to be installed by default. Where/how'd you get it? Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 22 13:30:02 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:30:02 +1100 Subject: X11 In-Reply-To: References: <218400F0-E159-489D-8E4F-28EE1108C9CA@gmail.com> <20070222170703.36f93bf9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20070223003002.5c81636c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:32:33 -0500 Erik Schmidt wrote: > I'm very new to Linux and X11, so forgive me if this is a stupid > question, but what if I'm trying to use Athena? Have a look at $ apt-cache search athena dev | grep Athena You will probably still need xlibs-dev as well . Use apt-cache search as above when in doubt. Another useful tool is "apt-file", which enables you to track down files that you don't have installed, and find out which packages they are in. So if the compiler or ./configure complains about missing files, you can usually track them down with these tools and some common sense. Another useful method for packages that already exist in Ubuntu but that you want to recompile, say, with a newer version, is sudo apt-get build-dep which installs the build dependencies for you See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ with attention to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html Peter From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Feb 22 13:31:26 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:31:26 -0500 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <45DD9B2E.90305@gatech.edu> Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On Do, 2007-02-22 at 01:45 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, >>> ( one license?) >> I don't think so. Most of the Windows EULA's limit the number of >> clients that can connect to 5-10. > thats exactly the reason why we decided to never ship wine on the > edubuntu CD, you get in a horrible gray (or even dark black legal area > with ltsp and windows apps (usually the apps you purchase for windows > have very similar licenses to teh eula ... or even worse ones)) Yes, but not always. There are plenty of FOSS apps for Windows, as demonstrated by Canonical's TheOpenCD project It is completely legal to redistribute wine. It is the user's responsibility to follow copyright law, not Canonical's to try (futilely) to force them. It is still in the repos, I hope? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try /dev/sg0. >>> > That's not likely correct. sg0 should be a "scsi generic" device, which is > a character, not a block, device. sg0 seems to be some sort of control > device, as there generally seems to be such a device associated with each > scsi block device. I need to direct CD burning to /dev/sg0 on my computer. /dev/scd0 is used for read. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kristian.frisk at aland.net Thu Feb 22 13:35:36 2007 From: kristian.frisk at aland.net (Kristian Frisk) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:05:36 +0530 Subject: installing ubuntu through network cable from a Windows xp machine. In-Reply-To: <24426c0702210851h344de237p9c837526f6caa6ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <24426c0702210448o12202f68rfeed5cc7c05474ca@mail.gmail.com> <20070221140717.1ee6b8c3@n428> <24426c0702210851h344de237p9c837526f6caa6ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24426c0702220535q7a318974h33acfb425189fb78@mail.gmail.com> Hallo again, I have now got so far that the server (windows xp acer machine) and the client (acer machine) now speak with each other. Wohoo! But now got another problem. I am trying to install Ubuntu via the network from a windows operating system and found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot which I have been following. When I come to step ten ("Now every machine on your network that requests a PXE boot rom should receive the breezy installer!"). It at first starts up fine. I get an Ubuntu screen telling to press enter to install and giving some other options. When pressing enter lots of text come at a fast speed but then everything hangs. I suppose it is because the client is not connected to a router but directly to the windows xp machine, acting server, through a network cable. The windows machine in turn is connected to the modem wirelessly. I tried to change some settings in the tftpd32 program. Changing the settings in the "DHCP server-tab", in the "WINS/DNS server" and "Default router" input fields to the same ip-addresses as the local ip-address of the server (windows xp machine). Doing that with the inspiration from this page http://caromet.home.ro/pxe.htm This didn't solve the problem though. The client computer is still not receiving any information from the net. At least that is what I suppose is happening. The client is a amd64 so I'm using the files I got from the "Breezy netboot kit amd64 (http://mirror.cameronbergh.com/breezynetboot64.7z) If anyone have a clue and/or know how to configure the tftpd32 program to make the client use the connection/gateway through the server then I would be more than happy. :) Kristian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ogra at ubuntu.com Thu Feb 22 13:42:14 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:42:14 +0100 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <45DD9B2E.90305@gatech.edu> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> <45DD9B2E.90305@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172151734.2043.44.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Do, 2007-02-22 at 08:31 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Yes, but not always. There are plenty of FOSS apps for Windows, as > demonstrated by Canonical's TheOpenCD project It is completely legal to > redistribute wine. It is the user's responsibility to follow copyright > law, not Canonical's to try (futilely) to force them. It is still in > the repos, I hope? indeed it is ... as i said, we just decided to not *ship* it in edubuntu ... simply because of the fact that our target audience are rather underskilled teachers doing the school administration as a sidejob, many of them surely wont know much about licensing practice of windows apps ... to prevent them from running ito such a trap we decided to not ship it ... so you actually need to explicitly install and set up wine before you can use it. it is and will stay in universe ... ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've looked around the web about VMware > but I think my questions are so basic that the answers are assumed . . . > or I could be looking in the wrong places. > > I read an article recently about maintaining a network of windows > desktops by running linux on each desktop and then using Vmware to load > windows on each one from a single windows XP image maintained on a server. > > I volunteer with an educational non profit that maintains a computer > lab. The lab computers are quite old (and have been "ridden hard") and > need replacement. Because of the need to reimage the drives when > students break the windows install, our computer guy says it is > important to keep a number of identical boxes, rather than replace them > as needed the way non profit organizations are likely to do. Why don't you lock down the Windows XP images? It's quite possible to lock Windows XP Pro down tighter than fort Knox. You should be able to specify what apps the users can run and where they can save, and, prevent such things as FireFox from auto-installing themself (that's not to say you shouldn't be running FF, but, unfortunately, it's easier to lock IE down than FF to prevent plug-ins from installing (at least, that's been my experience... can you lock down FF that way?)). From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Feb 22 14:13:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:13:26 -0400 Subject: USB CDRW problem - HP CD-Writer+ 8200 series References: <4.2.2.20070220100907.7df8fd30@pop.mich.com> <45DBBD77.1000700@gatech.edu> <4.2.2.20070222002748.7ca42898@pop.mich.com> <45DD9B98.7060408@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <61l0b4-nbl.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Dave M wrote: >> >>> At 10:33 PM 2/20/2007 , you wrote: >>>> Dave M wrote: >>>>> I am having problems getting a USB CDRW drive working. I am using >>>>> Ubuntu v6.06 and the drive is an HP CD-Writer Plus 8200 series. >>>>> >>>>> I am new at this so maybe I am looking at the wrong device? >>>>> >>>>> I assume it should be /dev/sda ? >>>> No, that's probably your hard drive. Try /dev/sg0. >>>> >> That's not likely correct. sg0 should be a "scsi generic" device, which >> is >> a character, not a block, device. sg0 seems to be some sort of control >> device, as there generally seems to be such a device associated with each >> scsi block device. > > I need to direct CD burning to /dev/sg0 on my computer. /dev/scd0 is > used for read. No, /dev/sg0 is used by cdrecord, but the actual burning device is _still_ /dev/scd0. I've been arguing with Scott Remnant about that, because he doesn't believe cdrecord should even touch sg0, so won't fix the permissions in udev. -- derek From marcanth2001 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 22 13:17:22 2007 From: marcanth2001 at yahoo.com (Marcanth) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:17:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Imagemagick converting horizontal images Message-ID: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi, I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal ones. How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be resized to, let's say, 200x100. image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it will not be affected. How could I do this? Thanks, Andre -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658.html#a9099612 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From robome at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 14:51:19 2007 From: robome at gmail.com (Rolf Bode-Meyer) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:19 +0100 Subject: Firefox handling .kml and other file types Message-ID: <8e37dd30702220651h42853135q7b8d8dfeb1749b5a@mail.gmail.com> Steven Heimann wrote: > I am having some trouble getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Edgy to handle google-earth > .kml files correctly. When pointed to a .kml file firefox just displays the text of the > file without asking me if I want to save the file and/or use another application to > open the file. I would like to configure it to use googleearth to open the file. Firefox tells file types apart by its Content-Type - and AFAIK solely by that. If the server sends the .kml file as type text/plain it's handled as text, that means displayed by the browser. So the server should send it out with some more specific MIME type, see http://earth.google.com/kml/kml_tut.html#kml_server for which are appropriate. Or it should at least request external handling. Rolf From david at kosmosisland.com Thu Feb 22 15:57:01 2007 From: david at kosmosisland.com (David Koski) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:57:01 -0800 Subject: Imagemagick converting horizontal images In-Reply-To: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200702220757.01946.david@kosmosisland.com> Use identify: size=`identify "$f" | sed 's/[\ ]/\n/g' \ | grep '^[0-9]*x[0-9]\+[0-9]\+' \ | awk -F+ '{print $1}'` height=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $2}'` width=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $1}'` x=0 y=0 if [ $height -lt $width ]; then ... do stuff ... David Koski david at kosmosisland.com On Thursday 22 February 2007 05:17, Marcanth wrote: > Hi, > > I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal ones. > How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: > > image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be > resized to, let's say, 200x100. > > image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it will not > be affected. > > How could I do this? > > Thanks, > Andre > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658.ht >ml#a9099612 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From erobererunc at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 16:08:03 2007 From: erobererunc at gmail.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:08:03 -0500 Subject: Renaming network interfaces one time (repopulating /etc/iftab?) Message-ID: <775033410702220808k4c22719dn475335607c67bb7@mail.gmail.com> Does anybody know how to take 2 new MAC addresses for newly attached NIC's and make them the default /etc/iftab eth0 and eth1? That is, I think I need to repopulate the /etc/iftab file with the new network interface names (eth0 and eth1) mapped to the new MAC addresses instead of old MAC addresses that are no longer attached. Since this is a VMWare virtual machine guest OS, doing this manually is not an optimal solution, since I can't depend on the people downloading my VM to do this correctly. Right now, the only option that I can see is to make a personal script for this, but I just keep getting the feeling that one already exists for this exact situation. So, my problem is that VMWare changes the MAC addresses whenever a new guest OS is downloaded and started up. In Ubuntu, this results in the new network interfaces being named eth2 and eth3 (in my situation), instead of eth0 and eth1. Of course, this means that /etc/network/interfaces has no record of of what to do with these interfaces, namely using DHCP to get eth0 an IP address.....so the result is that I can't connect to the network with this new guest OS. What I need to fix this is a way to make the new virtual NICs into eth0 and eth1 instead of eth2 and eth3. I GUESS that means editting /etc/iftab, but like I said, these will be guest OSes downloaded by other users, and I can't rely on them to do this correctly. Any suggestions? =) Thank you in advance for any help! Please let me know if I have misidentified the problem as well, if you know something better. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erobererunc at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 16:12:40 2007 From: erobererunc at gmail.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:12:40 -0500 Subject: Renaming network interfaces one time (repopulating /etc/iftab?) In-Reply-To: <775033410702220808k4c22719dn475335607c67bb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <775033410702220808k4c22719dn475335607c67bb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <775033410702220812k13145368n75caf650d6be2183@mail.gmail.com> The "ifrename" tool seems to be the solution to my problem, but 1) my distribution of Ubuntu server doesn't seem to have the tool installed (apt-get install ifrename yielded nothing), and 2) I'd like for this to be done automagically for the people who download my VM, so is there any way to make something like ifrename work on ONLY the first boot of a new VM, to capture the necessary the MAC addresses and edit /etc/iftab the first time? On 2/22/07, Michael Matthews wrote: > > Does anybody know how to take 2 new MAC addresses for newly attached NIC's > and make them the default /etc/iftab eth0 and eth1? That is, I think I need > to repopulate the /etc/iftab file with the new network interface names (eth0 > and eth1) mapped to the new MAC addresses instead of old MAC addresses that > are no longer attached. Since this is a VMWare virtual machine guest OS, > doing this manually is not an optimal solution, since I can't depend on the > people downloading my VM to do this correctly. Right now, the only option > that I can see is to make a personal script for this, but I just keep > getting the feeling that one already exists for this exact situation. > > So, my problem is that VMWare changes the MAC addresses whenever a new > guest OS is downloaded and started up. In Ubuntu, this results in the new > network interfaces being named eth2 and eth3 (in my situation), instead of > eth0 and eth1. Of course, this means that /etc/network/interfaces has no > record of of what to do with these interfaces, namely using DHCP to get eth0 > an IP address.....so the result is that I can't connect to the network with > this new guest OS. > > What I need to fix this is a way to make the new virtual NICs into eth0 > and eth1 instead of eth2 and eth3. I GUESS that means editting /etc/iftab, > but like I said, these will be guest OSes downloaded by other users, and I > can't rely on them to do this correctly. Any suggestions? =) > > Thank you in advance for any help! Please let me know if I have > misidentified the problem as well, if you know something better. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 22 16:26:17 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:26:17 -0500 Subject: Imagemagick converting horizontal images In-Reply-To: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20070222112617.77ce0859@chisel> Marcanth wrote: > > Hi, > > I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal > ones. How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: The "horizontal" ones are what's called "landscape orientated". The tall thin ones are "portrait". Just for future reference. ;) > > image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be > resized to, let's say, 200x100. > > image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it > will not be affected. > > How could I do this? Imagemagick includes a utility called 'identify' which outputs a single line of info by default, which includes geometry. I'd leverage that in a bash script. Something like this oversimplified, untested, and pseudo-code infested example. ;) ### BEGIN SCRIPT #! /bin/bash for i in $(ls) ## What, no wildcards!?! do ############################################# ## This should be done with sed + regex, ## but 'cut' is just easier to understand. ## If there's spaces in file names it breaks! ############################################# GEOMETRY=$(identify $i | cut -d' ' -f 3) IWIDTH=$(echo $GEOMETRY | cut -d'x' -f 1) IHEIGHT=$(echo $GEOMETRY | cut -d'x' -f 2) ############################################## ### Now that we have our IWIDTH and IHEIGHT we ### test and resize if it's landscape oriented ############################################## if [ $IWIDTH -gt $IHEIGHT ] ; then echo "Processing image $i ..." convert -size $i -write fi done ### END SCRIPT -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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I also currently making a GTK+ GUI interface to easily implement proxy cache sharing, and would like to add that enable it as an option in the GUI for personal squid proxy to speed up internet access. However, with all those heavy modifications, I'm worried about the UDP/Mulicast/Avahi/VoIP functionalities, and would like to add the ICP. Will there be a problem, because currently, I don't xinetd installed to enable UDP Echo. -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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André David Koski wrote: > > Use identify: > > > size=`identify "$f" | sed 's/[\ ]/\n/g' \ > | grep '^[0-9]*x[0-9]\+[0-9]\+' \ > | awk -F+ '{print $1}'` > height=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $2}'` > width=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $1}'` > x=0 > y=0 > if [ $height -lt $width ]; then > ... do stuff ... > > David Koski > david at kosmosisland.com > > On Thursday 22 February 2007 05:17, Marcanth wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal ones. >> How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: >> >> image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be >> resized to, let's say, 200x100. >> >> image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it will >> not >> be affected. >> >> How could I do this? >> >> Thanks, >> Andre >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658.ht >>ml#a9099612 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658.html#a9103393 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 16:39:22 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:39:22 +0800 Subject: ICP, Multicast, and UDP Echo using xinetd. Will it affect Avahi? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/23/07, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > I'm trying to implement Squid ICP in our campus networks, using a > customized Ubuntu/Debian OS. > > However, the OS is a heavy user of Avahi/Bonjour and UDP/Multicast > file-transfer and chat using it's > custom GTK+ GUI that I build on the OS. It is also a heavy user of SIP and > VoIP. > > I also currently making a GTK+ GUI interface to easily implement proxy > cache sharing, and would like > to add that enable it as an option in the GUI for personal squid proxy to > speed up internet access. > > However, with all those heavy modifications, I'm worried about the > UDP/Mulicast/Avahi/VoIP functionalities, and > would like to add the ICP. Will there be a problem, because currently, I > don't xinetd installed to enable UDP Echo. > > -- > "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because > my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back > to Windows. Another is I have ipv4-to-ipv6 translation enabled on the OS, my presence in the internet is seen as an IPv6 network. Currently, everything works fine, but I'm really worried about enabling ICP, if it will interfere with the network connectivity. Currently the UDP multicast filesharing is really becoming annoying since it's easy to enable, and easy to use because of the custom GTK+ GUI, and it's becoming a #1 toy for all the students in the network. -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at kosmosisland.com Thu Feb 22 16:40:30 2007 From: david at kosmosisland.com (David Koski) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:40:30 -0800 Subject: [...] Imagemagick converting horizontal images In-Reply-To: <9103393.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> <200702220757.01946.david@kosmosisland.com> <9103393.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200702220840.30833.david@kosmosisland.com> Put this in a script of course. David On Thursday 22 February 2007 08:37, Marcanth wrote: > Thanks for replying. I will try it soon. I wonder if there would be an > easier way? > > Well, thank you anyway. > > André > > David Koski wrote: > > Use identify: > > > > > > size=`identify "$f" | sed 's/[\ ]/\n/g' \ > > > > | grep '^[0-9]*x[0-9]\+[0-9]\+' \ > > | awk -F+ '{print $1}'` > > > > height=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $2}'` > > width=`echo $size | awk -Fx '{print $1}'` > > x=0 > > y=0 > > if [ $height -lt $width ]; then > > ... do stuff ... > > > > David Koski > > david at kosmosisland.com > > > > On Thursday 22 February 2007 05:17, Marcanth wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal > >> ones. How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: > >> > >> image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be > >> resized to, let's say, 200x100. > >> > >> image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it will > >> not > >> be affected. > >> > >> How could I do this? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Andre > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658 > >>.ht ml#a9099612 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at > >> Nabble.com. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Imagemagick-converting-horizontal-images-tf3272658.ht >ml#a9103393 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 22 17:04:14 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:04:14 -0500 Subject: [...] Imagemagick converting horizontal images In-Reply-To: <9103393.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> <200702220757.01946.david@kosmosisland.com> <9103393.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20070222120414.3d6ac567@chisel> Marcanth wrote: > > Thanks for replying. I will try it soon. I wonder if there would be > an easier way? Not with imagemagick. Somehow you have to parse your list of files, extract the their current geometry, test that, and then do the work. There's probably a hundred different ways to do it, but they all will require these steps and some sort of script magic. Or a whole lot of typing. ;) You could always open up gThumb, CTRL+left-mouse-click all the landscape oriented images to select only those, and then 'Tools > Scale Images' from the menu... -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Thu Feb 22 17:44:32 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:44:32 -0500 Subject: spamd & claws mail In-Reply-To: <20070222204100.05661ba6@picasso> References: <20070221183708.4f8b92f9@picasso> <20070221185441.55e780ac@picasso> <20070221150639.2f7b9be3@chisel> <20070222204100.05661ba6@picasso> Message-ID: <20070222124432.53181624@chisel> Nikolai wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:06:39 -0500 > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > > > Side note: I prefer Bogofilter for use with Claws-Mail. It's faster > > by a very noticeable difference, just as good at managing spam > > (maybe a little better in some respects), and you don't need > > another daemon eating up system resources. There's a very fine > > plugin for Claws-Mail that's compiled/installed if you have > > Bogofilter installed to. :) > > > Alright, I enabled Bogofilter instead even though I've managed to fix > SpamAssassin (turns out it didn't need spampd daemon after all). I > knew it was a *lot* faster (from reading reports about it on the web) It truly is. If you handle a good amount of personal mail it can be a problem. When it's running on a server you really don't notice the lag, but locally it's *very* annoying in my opinion. > but I couldn't make it work at first (in Dapper) and now I think it > works (it didn't give me any errors when mail was received but just > mentioned it will have to learn what is spam...). You have to train/update Spamassassin too. In fact dialing in SA can become a temporary full time job with a part time long term contract. ;) In my opinion (again), for personal use Bogo just does a better job overall. The difference in detection and false positives is negligible once they're both set up, and the Claws-Mail Bogofilter plugin makes this a pretty easy thing under CM. You can do the same thing with an 'sa-learn' action, but again the speed thing is a factor. A single large mail can take a few seconds to process. Doesn't sound like much, and it isn't until you start watching dozens or hundreds of emails a session being processed in real time like you do with client side filtering. SA is far better suited to server installations though. I do believe it's more able to handle huge volumes of mail, and it's certainly more feature rich. If you were to invest the time and resources It would ultimately reduce your spam load over Bogo. But neither one of them will 100% eliminate all of it without loosing a *lot* of legitimate mail (or spending a lot of time manually examining the spam you're trying to avoid anyway). -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 22 18:15:09 2007 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: XGL / Compiz (Dapper / kubuntu) Message-ID: <724073.41835.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Am trying to install everything to get the ui bling but have hit this .... sudo apt-get install compiz-kde Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies. compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages anthony at localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies. compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages anthony at localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies. compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but it is not going to be installed Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable E: Broken packages anthony at localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install csm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package csm is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package csm has no installation candidate Doh!! (that's me, not ubuntu) Has anyone got it running under Dapper / kubuntu. Another question, is Beryl good for Kubuntu? CIA -Ants --------------------------------- What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ghypes at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 18:39:58 2007 From: ghypes at gmail.com (gary hypes) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:39:58 -0800 Subject: Two NICs for the price of one? Message-ID: <303ccd70702221039x659c051dp715d5c04fa481194@mail.gmail.com> I spent a couple of weeks of exasperation trying to get my dual-boot WinXP/Ubuntu 6.10 system trying to recognize my Netgear WG311T wireless adapter, with no luck -- the XP side saw the card immediately, Ubuntu wouldn't recognize it at all. It tried modprobe ath_pci, I played with ndiswrapper (never did figure it out), tried the card in a different slot, nothing. Then, on a whim, I tried my son's Netgear 54MBPS USB wireless adapter, and voila! the system saw the device immediately. Now, to the next hurdle: in the network configuration manager, two devices pop up: one is clearly the USB adapter, but it also sees a device that it interprets to be a modem, even though there is no modem attached. Under "properties" it is clearly referring to a dial-up modem. Could it possibly be seeing the wireless router that the adapter is broadcasting to, and interpreting that as a modem? -- Gary Hypes "Everything I know I learned at http://www.coasttocoastam.com" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 18:42:06 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:42:06 -0800 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <45DDE3FE.3080704@comcast.net> On 02/22/2007 04:41 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On Do, 2007-02-22 at 01:45 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >>> In this case you are only running windows in *one* virtual machine, >>> ( one license?) >>> >> I don't think so. Most of the Windows EULA's limit the number of >> clients that can connect to 5-10. >> > thats exactly the reason why we decided to never ship wine on the > edubuntu CD, you get in a horrible gray (or even dark black legal area > with ltsp and windows apps (usually the apps you purchase for windows > have very similar licenses to teh eula ... or even worse ones)) > > This is a good discussion, very informative. I guess I don't understand the difference between running windows apps with wine as opposed to vmware. I had thought that wine was for running individual windows apps, where vmware would allow the running of an entire windows (or other os) environment. It appears you are throwing out wine as a possible solution for the entire windows image on a thin client? If that's right, then I'm confused. From frederific at googlemail.com Thu Feb 22 18:50:30 2007 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:50:30 +0000 Subject: Two NICs for the price of one? In-Reply-To: <303ccd70702221039x659c051dp715d5c04fa481194@mail.gmail.com> References: <303ccd70702221039x659c051dp715d5c04fa481194@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 22/02/07, gary hypes wrote: > Could it possibly > be seeing the wireless router that the adapter is broadcasting to, and > interpreting that as a modem? Frankly, probably not. I think that every ubuntu install shows a dial-up modem, even when not configured. My Ubuntu box has never had a modem, EVER, yet has shown one in network config since 5.04! Freddie :) -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 18:50:43 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:50:43 +0100 Subject: XGL / Compiz (Dapper / kubuntu) In-Reply-To: <724073.41835.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <724073.41835.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Anthony Gardner a écrit : > E: Package csm has no installation candidate > > Doh!! (that's me, not ubuntu) LOL, that's funny :) . I sometimes get stuck in that kind of things too. > > Has anyone got it running under Dapper / kubuntu. > > Another question, is Beryl good for Kubuntu? That question is no good, you gonna start a big messy thread. well, my response is, try it, Beryl+Aquamarine . if it doesn't suit you, uninstall it. > CIA > > -Ants > From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu Feb 22 18:58:56 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:58:56 +0000 Subject: Two NICs for the price of one? In-Reply-To: <303ccd70702221039x659c051dp715d5c04fa481194@mail.gmail.com> References: <303ccd70702221039x659c051dp715d5c04fa481194@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DDE7F0.5080501@googlemail.com> gary hypes wrote: > I spent a couple of weeks of exasperation trying to get my dual-boot > WinXP/Ubuntu 6.10 system trying to recognize my Netgear WG311T wireless > adapter, with no luck -- the XP side saw the card immediately, Ubuntu > wouldn't recognize it at all. It tried modprobe ath_pci, I played with > ndiswrapper (never did figure it out), tried the card in a different > slot, nothing. > > Then, on a whim, I tried my son's Netgear 54MBPS USB wireless adapter, > and voila! the system saw the device immediately. > > Now, to the next hurdle: in the network configuration manager, two > devices pop up: one is clearly the USB adapter, but it also sees a > device that it interprets to be a modem, even though there is no modem > attached. Under "properties" it is clearly referring to a dial-up modem. > Could it possibly be seeing the wireless router that the adapter is > broadcasting to, and interpreting that as a modem? > > -- > Gary Hypes > > "Everything I know I learned at http://www.coasttocoastam.com" > For some reason ubuntu always shows a modem in the network configuration manager, whether one is present or not. SteVe From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 20:02:44 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:02:44 -0800 Subject: VMWare / Wine Message-ID: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> This is a new thread but related to my last question about VMWare. That last discussion took a turn to discussing thin clients in the educational setting. A good discussion on its own but raises additional questions for me. My understanding is that wine can be used for running individual windows apps under linux. vmware is used for running an entire windows (or other os) environment under linux. Currently my laptop can dual boot Ubuntu Edgy and XP home. Though I have moved the majority of my digital life to Ubuntu, there are still some windows apps that I need to keep. I have not yet figured out either wine or vmware. In either case, my understanding is that I can run wine / VM and point to the Win program / partition to run. The difference as I see it is that Vmware would give access to the entire windows desktop while wine would just run the program. Again, this is probably one of those things that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but since it takes more setup, I had not gotten to it yet. The recent edubuntu / ltsp thread makes me wonder whether I need to do more thinking on the subject. Does anyone have thoughts on why I should choose one route over the other? Thanks From p.echols at comcast.net Thu Feb 22 20:26:37 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:26:37 -0800 Subject: VMware In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702220550x35cd42eeyd68ed3cc77d28c58@mail.gmail.com> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <77520bee0702220550x35cd42eeyd68ed3cc77d28c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DDFC7D.3050308@comcast.net> On 02/22/2007 05:50 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 21/02/07, Patton Echols wrote: > >> This is not really a Ubuntu specific question, but a pointer in the >> right direction would be great. I've looked around the web about VMware >> but I think my questions are so basic that the answers are assumed . . . >> or I could be looking in the wrong places. >> >> I read an article recently about maintaining a network of windows >> desktops by running linux on each desktop and then using Vmware to load >> windows on each one from a single windows XP image maintained on a server. >> >> I volunteer with an educational non profit that maintains a computer >> lab. The lab computers are quite old (and have been "ridden hard") and >> need replacement. Because of the need to reimage the drives when >> students break the windows install, our computer guy says it is >> important to keep a number of identical boxes, rather than replace them >> as needed the way non profit organizations are likely to do. >> > > Why don't you lock down the Windows XP images? It's quite possible to > lock Windows XP Pro down tighter than fort Knox. Well the desktops are running Win2000. AFAIK that was chosen over Win-ME (at the time the other "up to date" option) due to more stability and the ability to lock it down. The problem is that when software updates are needed, each machine requires an update. New programs, same thing. Since we don't have anyone in-house with the skill set, we end up paying about $10 to $12k per year for support services. Back tracking a bit from my previous post: I suppose I really don't know how much time goes to server maint, how much to updates, and how much to fixing boxes with "broken" software. But I'm told there are significant amounts of each. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 22 20:46:14 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:46:14 +1100 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070223074614.82f86097.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:02:44 -0800 Patton Echols wrote: > Does anyone have thoughts on why I should choose one route over the other? Looking at your original post in the previous thread, I notice that you are entirely focused on working out a way to run Windows - is there any possibility that you could use Linux for the needs your users have? For example, which applications are fundamental, and are there Linux equivalents for them? A listing of the apps you need might trigger discussion of alternatives. If you actually have apps that *must* run on Windows on all machines, then this is not an option of course. An alternative might be to analyse whether some portion of your machines could be fully migrated to Linux, while keeping some for purposes that definitely require Windows. The thin client approach using for example Edubuntu / ltsp could still be at least a partial solution, and save time, money and license woes at the same time. This might also ease your problems with broken installs, since Linux has a multi-user model and is inherently less vulnerable to "fooling around" by users. Sudo/root is needed to really mess things up, and if you run thin clients you don't have to administer all the boxes as much, as most of the important system things are on the server :-) The updates problems are also easier to solve with apt / synaptic / update manager, and you might consider setting up a local mirror or proxy for Ubuntu repositories. just some more ( possibly impractical) ideas ... Peter From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 20:58:53 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:58:53 +0100 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: Patton Echols a écrit : > This is a new thread but related to my last question about VMWare. That > last discussion took a turn to discussing thin clients in the > educational setting. A good discussion on its own but raises additional > questions for me. > > > My understanding is that wine can be used for running individual windows > apps under linux. vmware is used for running an entire windows (or > other os) environment under linux. Currently my laptop can dual boot > Ubuntu Edgy and XP home. Though I have moved the majority of my digital > life to Ubuntu, there are still some windows apps that I need to keep. > I have not yet figured out either wine or vmware. > > In either case, my understanding is that I can run wine / VM and point > to the Win program / partition to run. The difference as I see it is > that Vmware would give access to the entire windows desktop while wine > would just run the program. Again, this is probably one of those things > that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've > been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly > concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but > since it takes more setup, I had not gotten to it yet. The recent > edubuntu / ltsp thread makes me wonder whether I need to do more > thinking on the subject. > > Does anyone have thoughts on why I should choose one route over the other? > > Thanks > I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : Wine : - no need for windows license - very light. - some windows applications won't run on it. VMware - need a windows installation ( just one is enough , you can clone the VM ) - need to run an OS over an OS ( which requires great host performances) - every windows apps will run on it (but Direct X ones - this features is on testing in VMware Workstation 6 ) So the use of one of them depends on what you want to do with it. From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Feb 22 21:49:23 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:49:23 +0000 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DE0FE3.2080508@yandex.ru> > > I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and > its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : VMware is as far from being a fork of Wine as can be. > > Wine : > - no need for windows license > - very light. > - some windows applications won't run on it. *most* windows apps won't work > > VMware > - need a windows installation ( just one is enough , you can clone the VM ) > - need to run an OS over an OS ( which requires great host performances) > - every windows apps will run on it (but Direct X ones - this features > is on testing in VMware Workstation 6 ) > > So the use of one of them depends on what you want to do with it. > > From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 22 22:33:26 2007 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:33:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: XGL / Compiz (Dapper / kubuntu) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <488436.37441.qm@web26002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Don;t wanna start a war. It's just that Beryl sort of ran but was resource hungry. I then tried to disable it but it's forked kde up a bit. will sort it out, though. Am not really bothered about this subject as I'm only playing Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: Anthony Gardner a écrit : > E: Package csm has no installation candidate > > Doh!! (that's me, not ubuntu) LOL, that's funny :) . I sometimes get stuck in that kind of things too. > > Has anyone got it running under Dapper / kubuntu. > > Another question, is Beryl good for Kubuntu? That question is no good, you gonna start a big messy thread. well, my response is, try it, Beryl+Aquamarine . if it doesn't suit you, uninstall it. > CIA > > -Ants > -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 23:40:14 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:40:14 +0100 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <45DE0FE3.2080508@yandex.ru> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE0FE3.2080508@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy a écrit : >> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and >> its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : > > VMware is as far from being a fork of Wine as can be. I don't understand the sentence, excuse my low level of english. I was saying Cedega and CrossOverOffice were forks of Wine. VMware isn't. From p.echols at comcast.net Fri Feb 23 00:27:23 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:27:23 -0800 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <20070223074614.82f86097.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <20070223074614.82f86097.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45DE34EB.9080001@comcast.net> On 02/22/2007 12:46 PM, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:02:44 -0800 > Patton Echols wrote: > > >> Does anyone have thoughts on why I should choose one route over the other? >> > > Looking at your original post in the previous thread, I notice that you are > entirely focused on working out a way to run Windows - is there any > possibility that you could use Linux for the needs your users have? > Well, there are two different things going on. (1) In the prior thread we're talking about running in an educational environment. Part of what is being taught is "Word" "Excel" etc. Things to get students ready for the work world. If it were up to me, they'd learn open source software and everyone would quickly discover that the thought process is the same, even if the commands are different. (If you know how to do a mail merge in WordPerfect, you can figure out what to do in Open Office or in Word.) I fully beliieve that a person who can work OpenOffice would have no problem if the boss insisted on MSOffice. But I'm not the administrator, not an "Educator" nor any kind of decision maker at this level. I agree that Linux would be a good choice (See #2) and I'll suggest it, but I don't think I can win that battle. (2) Yes, I think Linux is a good idea. That's why I run it on my laptop as the most used OS. However, there are a few windows apps that I still need. Mostly related to my astronomy hobby. Until I find a linux replacement . . . > For example, which applications are fundamental, and are there Linux > equivalents for them? A listing of the apps you need might trigger > discussion of alternatives. > Ok, But if anyone responds to any of these, might I suggest starting a new thread??? Cartes du Ciel - Yes there is a linux version in Beta. It is very rough around the edges. The windows version is a little clunky, the linux version is worse, both usability and display. (For planetarium software, minimum requirement is the ability to select and deselect catalogs on the fly including the Tycho-2, WDS, SAO, etc. ) If that was the ONLY reason I still needed windows, I'd probably bite the bullet and buy XEphem. Virtual Moon Atlas - Not even a Beta AFAIK registax - able to extract frames from an avi, select the least distorted frames, align, stack and process into an image, with selections for "drizzle" mode, derotation, wavelet processing, etc. (This one says it runs under wine, but I'll need to upgrade to version 4) WinOccult - A program for predicting lunar and asteroid occultations of bright stars, HP PhotoDelux (like Photoshop Lite) -- Yes, yes, I know that the Gimp is supposed to be great - and I am determined to spend the time to figure it out if I can, (especially since Photodelux is on the home desktop and not the lappy where it belongs.) But it seems to me that the interfaces are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . Intervideo DVD Creator - For capturing video and doing non linear editing and burning to dvd. (In a perfect world I'd like to see one that you can view the frame by frame video with audio diagram underneath (like you see in audacity) so you can cut at an exact frame or manually synchronize audio to video when the capture goes poorly. > If you actually have apps that *must* run on Windows on all machines, then > this is not an option of course. > > An alternative might be to analyse whether some portion of your machines > could be fully migrated to Linux, while keeping some for purposes that > definitely require Windows. The thin client approach using for example > Edubuntu / ltsp could still be at least a partial solution, and save time, > money and license woes at the same time. > > This might also ease your problems with broken installs, since Linux has a > multi-user model and is inherently less vulnerable to "fooling around" by > users. Sudo/root is needed to really mess things up, and if you run > thin clients you don't have to administer all the boxes as much, as > most of the important system things are on the server :-) The updates > problems are also easier to solve with apt / synaptic / update manager, and > you might consider setting up a local mirror or proxy for Ubuntu > repositories. > > Yeah, I agree, and once I have more experience with Ubuntu, so I can answer objections, I plan to make that pitch. I personally think there is far more upside than down in that environment. But it is a tough political battle, especially since the teachers would need to retrain themselves a little bit. Thanks though. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 00:47:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:47:43 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and > its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : > > Wine : > - no need for windows license Legally, or practically? Many things you might run under Wine are _legally_ required to have a Windows license. otoh, I _have_ a windows license, and can't use it under VMWare, because the hardware isn't recognized as being the Dell for which it's licensed. > - very light. > - some windows applications won't run on it. > > VMware > - need a windows installation ( just one is enough , you can clone the VM well, it needs a license for every one. Legally and practically. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 00:51:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:51:17 -0400 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE0FE3.2080508@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <5dq1b4-8vq.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> >> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and >> its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : > > VMware is as far from being a fork of Wine as can be. > He clearly didn't suggest it was: "(and its forks: Cedega and CrossOverOffice)". See "parenthetical expression" :-) >> >> Wine : >> - some windows applications won't run on it. > > *most* windows apps won't work That's simply not true. Most apps _will_ in fact work. Some of them may take you months to get working functionally, and some may never work really well, but very few don't work at all under CrossOver. The ones that don't work at all mostly are support for specialized hardware - for which there are no OSS drivers. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 00:52:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:52:17 -0400 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE0FE3.2080508@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1fq1b4-8vq.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy a écrit : >>> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and >>> its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : >> >> VMware is as far from being a fork of Wine as can be. > > I don't understand the sentence, excuse my low level of english. Never mind - your English was fine. > > I was saying Cedega and CrossOverOffice were forks of Wine. VMware isn't. > You said it in exactly the correct way. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 02:31:02 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:31:02 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and >> its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : >> >> Wine : >> - no need for windows license > > Legally, or practically? Many things you might run under Wine are _legally_ > required to have a Windows license. That's simply not true. Components of Windows need a Windows license, but there's a whole lot of Windows software that isn't even put out by Microsoft. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On restarting Nautilus, same thing, fine when it first starts, but if I try to access anything it stops showing any files, and is back to using all processor. Have Xubuntu Desktop on too, and can use Thunar, but that also appears unstable, anything that has a few "options to open with scolls back and forward through options. e.g if I try to open an mpg with other than the default the list of available open with "Movie player" "Vlc " "Xfmedia" "Mplayer" etc, will not keep still, scrolls up and down through the list, chasing the moving item required can sometimes result in success, it's own built in game :-). Any ideas would be very greatfully received, and running Dapper, haven't updated so nothing has been changed. Many thanks in advance Take Care Winton From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 23 03:26:01 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:26:01 -0800 Subject: VMware In-Reply-To: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 02/21/2007 05:24 PM, Patton Echols wrote: > This is not really a Ubuntu specific question, but a pointer in the > right direction would be great. I've looked around the web about VMware > but I think my questions are so basic that the answers are assumed . . . > or I could be looking in the wrong places. > > I read an article recently about maintaining a network of windows > desktops by running linux on each desktop and then using Vmware to load > windows on each one from a single windows XP image maintained on a server. > > I volunteer with an educational non profit that maintains a computer > lab. The lab computers are quite old (and have been "ridden hard") and > need replacement. Because of the need to reimage the drives when > students break the windows install, our computer guy says it is > important to keep a number of identical boxes, rather than replace them > as needed the way non profit organizations are likely to do. > > So here is the two questions: > > I assume that using Linux to autoload vmware and then a windows image at > boot time would result in much lower maintinance. If the windows > "install" were broken, a reboot fixes it. Since the students would > presumably have no access to the OS, the linux installs would require > less maintenance too. Is that right? > > Since the windows image would load on top of vmware, the windows image > would not be hardware specific, if we ended up with several different > system configurations, they would all work with the master XP image. Is > that right too? > > Thanks again. > Couple of questions/suggestions: 1. How much memory does each computer have? If they have 256Mb then Ubuntu Desktop will most likely run comfortably on each *and* breath new life into them. For example, my oldest test machine is a 300Mhz/256Mb/6GHD and runs very well using Dapper 6.061 LTS. It is set up for dual boot w/Win2KP on a second 4G hard drive, and I can say for a fact that performance under 6.06 is considerably better than Win2KP. 2. If they already have Win2K on them, set them as dual boot and use WINE in linux to run the applications that they simply cannot run under linux. There should only be a few, and as long as the machines are not used for games there shouldn't be a problem. Install the program using WINE, creates a desktop icon, they click it, and in many cases it will run just fine. 3. To manage the systems just use Gnome-RDP and/or UltraVNC under WINE (see: http://www.uvnc.com/). If they all must run Win$, then use UltraVNC so that you can do file transfers. I do this to maintain multiple client machines that are both linux and Win2KP & WinServer. Set up properly, you can do this remotely via a secure VPN connection. Go and buy a couple of Linksys BEFVP41 V.2 routers for about $120 each. They have built in VPN encryption; assuming both sites have DSL, set one up at the nonprofit location & the other up at your home, build permanent VPN circuits between the locations & VNC into each machine to update/upgrade. The VNC only goes over the encrypted VPN circuit, so no need to worry about outside internet access/interference. You can run multiple vnc windows and work on multiple machines at once. I often have 10 or more windowed sessions going at once updating Windows machines on Update Tuesday (or whatever it is each month). If you're good at scripts, then you can even write a script to do this as a cron job. The other advantage to UltraVNC if the machines *must* be kept as Windows, is that you can set the client machine vnc server to vnc at reboot, so you can reboot remotely, vnc to the user login, login as admin, make your changes, reboot back to restricted user mode, all remotely. Gnome-RDP can be used with minimal problems, but you won't be able to do file transfer via the VNC client, and UltraVNC has a built in chat client. Don't know about you, but I'm lazy & hate having to go onsite just to clean up a clients (or relatives) computer :-) I guess that VMware is ok... I've been experimenting with it lately, but so far I've found it considerably easer just to use a secure hardware VPN w/VNC. Easier than an ssh web client as well, as I don't have to mess with an added layer of web browser in the process. From emranbuet2002 at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 04:26:29 2007 From: emranbuet2002 at gmail.com (emran chowdhury) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:26:29 +0600 Subject: about movie player Message-ID: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Every body, Good wishes to all. I am a Ubuntu 6.06 (bengali language) user. But I have some problems to play mp3 and mpeg file. Is anybody can help me in this regard. Bye Emran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Feb 23 04:52:07 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:52:07 -0600 Subject: about movie player In-Reply-To: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DE72F7.6010307@fahrlander.net> emran chowdhury wrote: > Hello, > Every body, Good wishes to all. I am a Ubuntu 6.06 (bengali language) user. > But I have some problems to play mp3 and mpeg file. > Is anybody can help me in this regard. This is where all these kinds of answers await: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28RestrictedFormats%29 From ttmrichter at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 05:34:37 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:34:37 +0800 Subject: GAIM on Edgy Message-ID: <1172208877.5103.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Gaim 2.0 has support for the QQ protocol in it. Yet the binary shipped with Edgy doesn't. I see no ./configure option that shuts this off, so I have two questions: 1. Why was QQ support turned off? 2. How was QQ support turned off? -- Michael T. 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But... > > I have ubuntu 6.06, It fails to install in gui mode, but install painlessly > in text mode. > > It works fine, gui is great, but there are lots of packages that i cann't > install on my system. > I'h pentium-4, 1.7 GHz, 80 GB HDD - on using add/remove application, error > appears "THIS APPLICATION IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR YOUR SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE" --- > what is this???? > > Kindly help me out, > from a console do:- sudo apt-get update then try again Regards, John From admin at greenleecp.com Fri Feb 23 07:55:01 2007 From: admin at greenleecp.com (Charles Yao) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:55:01 +0800 Subject: Webmin on Dapper Message-ID: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have a server running Ubuntu Dapper. But I am a hard time setting permissions on the folders. Im using webmin and my settings do not seem to work so i'm pretty stumped on what to do. Any how to or guide would me most welcome. Charles -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 08:10:54 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:10:54 -0500 Subject: Webmin on Dapper In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> Charles Yao wrote: > Hi, > > I have a server running Ubuntu Dapper. But I am a hard time setting > permissions on the folders. Im using webmin and my settings do not seem to > work so i'm pretty stumped on what to do. Any how to or guide would me most > welcome. Can't help you, but recalling previous discussion about using webmin I think the predominant advice was "don't". Try doing it manually. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From office at ndres.co.uk Fri Feb 23 08:27:47 2007 From: office at ndres.co.uk (NDR(ES) Office) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:27:47 +0000 Subject: Nautilus missbehaving In-Reply-To: <45DE443C.8030009@internode.on.net> References: <45DE443C.8030009@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <1172219267.2423.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, Had a similar problem recently using Breezy (5.10) Searched the Ubuntu forum and came across the following tip. Close Nautilus. In terminal type the following command - killall gam_server Reopen Nautilus. In the last few days since I used this command, Nautilus has not been a problem. I do not know much about the gam server - what it does or how it works with Nautilus. The forum did mention that it was an improvement on fam (file access management) and that gam in Dapper (6.06) was complete and fixed. HTH Neil On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 12:02 +1030, squareyes wrote: > Hi all, > am having problems with Nautilus, opens my home folder OK, then on first > use freezes, ans tops displaying files in it. > Shutting it down from the "not responding message, only results in it > opening again, empty, again and again, > not showing any files, and it is now using nearly 100% of processor. > Killing it with "Force Quit" > from Gnome panel, results in it re-opening still empty, and still using > 100% of processor. > Killing it with gps same. After killing it 3-4 times Desktop freezes, > and can fix with Ctrl+Alt=Backspace. > On restarting Nautilus, same thing, fine when it first starts, but if I > try to access anything it stops showing any files, > and is back to using all processor. > Have Xubuntu Desktop on too, and can use Thunar, but that also appears > unstable, anything that has a few > "options to open with scolls back and forward through options. e.g if I > try to open an mpg with other than the default > the list of available open with "Movie player" "Vlc " "Xfmedia" > "Mplayer" etc, will not keep still, scrolls up and down through the > list, chasing the moving item required can sometimes result in success, > it's own built in game :-). > Any ideas would be very greatfully received, and running Dapper, haven't > updated so nothing has been changed. > Many thanks in advance > Take Care > Winton > Neil Redgate Director NDR (Environmental Services) Ltd. 24 Harland Road, Castletown Caithness HIGHLAND KW14 8UB Tel: +44 (0) 1847-821495 Fax: +44 (0) 1847-821828 ________________________________________________________________________ Do your bit for the environment - save paper and avoid waste by not printing out this email and attachments if at all possible. 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URL: From admin at greenleecp.com Fri Feb 23 09:04:10 2007 From: admin at greenleecp.com (Charles Yao) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:04:10 +0800 Subject: Webmin on Dapper In-Reply-To: <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> References: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <509d63b70702230104j768179ceu2e5b9d0b81f3d504@mail.gmail.com> Hi Matthew. How do I do it manually? On 2/23/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Charles Yao wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a server running Ubuntu Dapper. But I am a hard time setting > > permissions on the folders. Im using webmin and my settings do not seem > to > > work so i'm pretty stumped on what to do. Any how to or guide would me > most > > welcome. > > Can't help you, but recalling previous discussion about using webmin I > think the predominant advice was "don't". Try doing it manually. > > Matthew Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amichai at iglu.org.il Fri Feb 23 09:04:49 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:04:49 +0200 Subject: Weather Applet Message-ID: Hi, Is it possible to add Yahoo!'s weather to a Gnome applet? I know there's a weather applet, but it doesn't include my city and I don't know gow to add it... Thanks! -- .:====================================================:. 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Just do what I did: go to webmin.org and download the .deb. It all works just fine...I don't know why the community decided to dump it- it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of what came before it....linuxconf. (Now THAT was some serious crap.) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF3rK56PLtRzZbdhYRAiSjAJ4ih3wE5wrQFIs7Fpt5hz33rlrl8gCeLvUH CxyMWbXoknwY+xNoFh6OIaQ= =0NzP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Feb 23 09:43:44 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:43:44 +1100 Subject: about movie player In-Reply-To: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070223204344.f1dfed3b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:26:29 +0600 "emran chowdhury" wrote: > I am a Ubuntu 6.06 (bengali language) user. > But I have some problems to play mp3 and mpeg file. > Is anybody can help me in this regard. I would suggest that you read and follow the advice at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats This page will give you information about playing these and other formats that Ubuntu cannot include in the base install for legal reasons. There is more general help and information on many subjects at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation Clicking on the built-in system help icon or menu item will also find good information. There is a Desktop Guide and a search function. Peter From ogra at ubuntu.com Fri Feb 23 10:09:11 2007 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:09:11 +0100 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <45DDE3FE.3080704@comcast.net> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> <45DDE3FE.3080704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1172225351.2043.67.camel@edubuntu> hi, On Do, 2007-02-22 at 10:42 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: > This is a good discussion, very informative. I guess I don't understand > the difference between running windows apps with wine as opposed to > vmware. I had thought that wine was for running individual windows > apps, where vmware would allow the running of an entire windows (or > other os) environment. It appears you are throwing out wine as a > possible solution for the entire windows image on a thin client? If > that's right, then I'm confused. indeed these are two different tasks, you are right, one runs the whole OS while one only provides a layer to run single apps ... independently from this fact, you break the EULA with both *if* you use it via ltsp ... the design of ltsp allows you to use one single install and license in the server (either of the OS (vmware) or in case of wine of a single app)) for all users on the thin clients ... the tasks are different, but the legal problems are identical ;) ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Nikolai From leewen at primus.ca Fri Feb 23 10:37:26 2007 From: leewen at primus.ca (lee) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:37:26 -0500 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 213 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45DEC3E6.8060201@primus.ca> You say that you have 6.06, what are the packages that you can not install, how much memory do you have. Are you trying by chance to install the 64 bit on a 32 bit. Dear Ubuntu, ubuntu is really a very great distro, and i want to do my work on it. But... I have ubuntu 6.06, It fails to install in Gui mode, but install painlessly in text mode. It works fine, Gui is great, but there are lots of packages that i can't install on my system. I've Pentium-4, 1.7 GHz, 80 GB HDD - on using add/remove application, error appears "THIS APPLICATION IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR YOUR SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE" --- what is this???? Kindly help me out, -- Sagittarius "Darkness of this UNIVERSE has many secrets." ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. about movie player (emran chowdhury) > 2. Re: about movie player (Brian Fahrlander) > 3. GAIM on Edgy (Michael T. Richter) > 4. Wireless help (stoakley lloyd) > 5. problem with packages shipped with 6.06 (ice) > 6. Re: problem with packages shipped with 6.06 (Matthew Flaschen) > 7. Re: problem with packages shipped with 6.06 (John K Masters) > 8. Webmin on Dapper (Charles Yao) > 9. Re: Webmin on Dapper (Matthew Flaschen) > 10. Re: Nautilus missbehaving (NDR(ES) Office) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 10:52:19 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:52:19 -0500 Subject: Webmin on Dapper In-Reply-To: <45DEB2B9.4060105@fahrlander.net> References: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> <509d63b70702230104j768179ceu2e5b9d0b81f3d504@mail.gmail.com> <45DEB2B9.4060105@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45DEC763.7020909@gatech.edu> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Charles Yao wrote: >> Hi Matthew. How do I do it manually? > > Just do what I did: go to webmin.org and download the .deb. It all > works just fine...I don't know why the community decided to dump it- > it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of what came before it....linuxconf. (Now THAT > was some serious crap.) I meant do the configuration manually, but of course, suit yourself. :) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 10:56:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:56:52 -0500 Subject: Edubuntu/ ltsp? [was Re: VMware ] In-Reply-To: <1172225351.2043.67.camel@edubuntu> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <007f01c75637$bf5817c0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070222171820.20c62064.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <45DD3C23.7080901@gatech.edu> <1172148096.2043.36.camel@edubuntu> <45DDE3FE.3080704@comcast.net> <1172225351.2043.67.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <45DEC874.7080505@gatech.edu> Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On Do, 2007-02-22 at 10:42 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: >> This is a good discussion, very informative. I guess I don't understand >> the difference between running windows apps with wine as opposed to >> vmware. I had thought that wine was for running individual windows >> apps, where vmware would allow the running of an entire windows (or >> other os) environment. It appears you are throwing out wine as a >> possible solution for the entire windows image on a thin client?' That's correct. Wine is meant for running isolated programs, not for providing an entire environment. > If >> that's right, then I'm confused. > indeed these are two different tasks, you are right, one runs the whole > OS while one only provides a layer to run single apps ... independently > from this fact, you break the EULA with both *if* you use it via > ltsp ... The EULA of what? There are plenty of free/libre/open source , freeware, shareware, etc. apps that can be used legally with wine. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do I do it manually? > > > > Just do what I did: go to webmin.org and download the .deb. It all > > works just fine...I don't know why the community decided to dump it- > > it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of what came before it....linuxconf. (Now THAT > > was some serious crap.) > > I meant do the configuration manually, but of course, suit yourself. :) > > Matthew Flaschen > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am a Ubuntu 6.06 (bengali language) user. > But I have some problems to play mp3 and mpeg file. > Is anybody can help me in this regard. > > Bye > > Emran > Please refer to the following Wiki page to find out how to get MP3 support and others... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 12:21:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:21:14 -0500 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] about movie player In-Reply-To: <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > emran chowdhury wrote: >> Hello, >> Every body, Good wishes to all. I am a Ubuntu 6.06 (bengali language) user. >> But I have some problems to play mp3 and mpeg file. >> Is anybody can help me in this regard. >> >> Bye >> >> Emran >> Can someone please tell me what OBORONA-SPAM is? 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Are you new to Ubuntu? What are you trying to do? Details please. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 12:37:23 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:23 +0100 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> Message-ID: Nikolai a écrit : > Can someone please explain why some installed applications are not on > the Applications menu? (I'm on Edgy) > > In particular, I don't see Tomboy and it doesn't start from the command > line, it gives this: > > (Tomboy:24472): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding 'F11' failed! > > I thought I would make Tomboy to appear on the apps menu via alacarte > but it's not there either. I have launched alacarte from the command > line but no Tomboy there either. > > Can someone help please? > > Thanks > Nikolai > > Tomboy runs on my computer, ubuntu edgy. Tomboy is accessible via an applet under the panel. But it doesn't run along with the other Gnome Sticky application. note: some applications doesn't appear in the menu because either they intended to be somewhere else or they're badly packaged. From oli at aurait.eu Fri Feb 23 12:44:23 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:44:23 +0100 Subject: Wireless help In-Reply-To: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45DEE1A7.9040702@aurait.eu> stoakley lloyd a écrit : > I'm getting ready to set up my new (home built) desktop on my wireless. > this is my first time using Ubuntu and I'm wondering what kind card I > should get. Does anyone have a recommendation that will minimize driver > issues. my router is a Dlink di-614+. > > Srl51676 I would suggest a card based on the Ralink RT2500 chipset. There's a good list of cards and their chipsets here: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ For example: Asus WL130G Regards, Olivier From kaushalshriyan at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 12:48:41 2007 From: kaushalshriyan at gmail.com (Kaushal Shriyan) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:18:41 +0530 Subject: dpkg -l postfix In-Reply-To: <45DEDC72.1010808@gatech.edu> References: <6b16fb4c0702230415j8932a67ubf3ab1be970db816@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDC72.1010808@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <6b16fb4c0702230448j4ac88685s43b0278ec5a8dab7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > > Hi ALL > > > > dpkg -l postfix > > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed > > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) > > ||/ Name Version Description > > +++-==============-==============-============================================ > > ii postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu A high-performance mail transport agent > > > > what does it signifies, I know that if a package is not installed > > there will be no O/p > > > > Please make me understand > > What is O/p ? Are you new to Ubuntu? What are you trying to do? > > Details please. > > Matthew Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > Hi Matthew I am new to ubuntu and wanted to understand that Output (O/p means Output) Please let me know if you need any further information Thanks Kaushal From gerard.bigot at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 12:52:09 2007 From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:52:09 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu (Edgy) doesn't support my USB modem(ZXDSL852) In-Reply-To: <528a14c00702230326t62cb5d21o8d9c056283c513fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <528a14c00702230326t62cb5d21o8d9c056283c513fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46db19270702230452k51136f67j80b5c948f2a0432d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/07, Youcef ch wrote: > > Hello > First at all i'm a newbie and new in this world of free > software/open-source and i ve chosen to use Ubuntu as my first step but i > face a problem with my modem usb wich isn't supported by Ubuntu (edgy also i > tried the 6.06 LTS release). > my ISP: Easy Adsl (Algerie-Telecom) > i 've seen: > http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/zxdsl852 > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=16289 > and someone from my country in this topic(called Ishmael) has succeeded > but dunno why my problem couldn't be resolved despite i did all the steps > included in the tuto ! > Hope you'll help me as soon possible and Thanks! Hi, I think more information is needed from you. Could you answer this question : "What are doing when it's failing ,and what error messsage do you get?" It will allow us to begin to understand your problem. G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at laniels.org Fri Feb 23 12:45:22 2007 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:45:22 -0500 Subject: dpkg -l postfix In-Reply-To: <6b16fb4c0702230448j4ac88685s43b0278ec5a8dab7@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b16fb4c0702230415j8932a67ubf3ab1be970db816@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDC72.1010808@gatech.edu> <6b16fb4c0702230448j4ac88685s43b0278ec5a8dab7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070223124522.GB18183@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 06:18:41PM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > I am new to ubuntu and wanted to understand that Output (O/p means Output) Hi Kaushal, I believe what Matthew was asking was: why were you running dpkg -l in the first place? What was your goal? Were you trying to see whether Postfix is installed? If that was your goal, I'd do something like dpkg --get-selections postfix instead. On my machine, that returns: > postfix install which says that Postfix is installed. If you want to see which version is installed, there are (again) many ways to do so, but I would do 'apt-cache policy postfix': postfix: Installed: 2.3.3-1 Candidate: 2.3.3-1 Version table: *** 2.3.3-1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status That output is much clearer than dpkg -l's, I think. -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you new to Ubuntu? What are you trying to do? >> >> Details please. >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-users mailing list >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users >> >> >> > > Hi Matthew > > I am new to ubuntu and wanted to understand that Output (O/p means Output) > > Please let me know if you need any further information I'm not sure what the output means. What are you trying to do? If you want to install postfix enter: sudo apt-get install postfix To remove it, sudo apt-get remove postfix Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But months ago I switched to Gnome, and more recently to OS X, and I can't find a way to rewrite messages headers in Evolutions (when using Gnome) or Thunderbird (when using OS X). From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 13:07:41 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:07:41 -0500 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45DEE71D.6000306@gatech.edu> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Can someone please tell me what OBORONA-SPAM is? >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> >> > > > Oh dear > I'm sorry - it's my fault. > My mail provider (Yandex) adds OBORONA-SPAM to the subject of every > email it thinks is spam. Unfortunately it always thinks mail-list emails > could be spam. When I reply to a post I have to manually delete > OBORONA-SPAM from the subject, but sometimes I forget, or can't be bothered. > > When I was using KDE, Kmail had an option to automatically rewrite the > messages headers and remove it. But months ago I switched to Gnome, and > more recently to OS X, and I can't find a way to rewrite messages There's always an SMTP proxy. :) Don't worry. It seems to be an international sensation (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=uUu&q=OBORONA-SPAM&btnG=Search). I have to say, though, it seems a pretty stupid spam tagging method. My ISP/university adds X- email headers which aren't displayed. It tags it with a rating (how likely to be spam) and descriptive tags. Both can be fed into Thunderbird, though I use just the rating. 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Are you new to Ubuntu? What are you trying to do? > >> > >> Details please. > >> > >> Matthew Flaschen > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-users mailing list > >> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > >> > >> > >> > > > > Hi Matthew > > > > I am new to ubuntu and wanted to understand that Output (O/p means Output) > > > > Please let me know if you need any further information > > I'm not sure what the output means. What are you trying to do? If you > want to install postfix enter: > > sudo apt-get install postfix > > To remove it, > > sudo apt-get remove postfix > > Matthew Flaschen > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > Thanks Matthew and Stephen I was in the IRC Chat of #ubuntu and some one told me to use the below command $dpkg -l postfix to check whether the application postfix has been installed or not in the box ,was not able to understand the output of dpkg -l postfix ~$ dpkg -l postfix Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==============-==============-============================================ ii postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu A high-performance mail transport agent ~$ Would appreciate if you can make me understand what the above output says Thanks and Regards Kaushal From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 13:11:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:11:46 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> >>> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine (and >>> its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : >>> >>> Wine : >>> - no need for windows license >> >> Legally, or practically? Many things you might run under Wine are >> _legally_ required to have a Windows license. > > That's simply not true. You keep doing that to me. It IS true. > Components of Windows need a Windows license, > but there's a whole lot of Windows software that isn't even put out by > Microsoft. Of course there is. I didn't say you couldn't run any software under Wine. In fact lots of good software does run under Wine, and legally (at least in my non-legal opinion), too. However, as I said, _many_ applications are legally required to have a Windows license. I think you'll find that almost all Microsoft software EULAs specifically require you to have a Windows license, plus any software that requires any DLLs or fonts or any other Windows component, that has not been freely released by Microsoft. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 13:04:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:04:51 -0400 Subject: dpkg -l postfix References: <6b16fb4c0702230415j8932a67ubf3ab1be970db816@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi ALL > > dpkg -l postfix > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: > |uppercase=bad) > ||/ Name Version Description > +++-==============-==============-============================================ > ii postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu A high-performance mail transport agent > > what does it signifies, I know that if a package is not installed > there will be no O/p It says it's installed. If this isn't clear enough, just don't use dpkg. # aptitude show postfix will give the information more clearly. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 13:16:11 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:16:11 -0400 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > My mail provider (Yandex) adds OBORONA-SPAM to the subject of every > email it thinks is spam. Unfortunately it always thinks mail-list emails > could be spam. Is using gmane and nntp, rather than directly receiving mails, an option? -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 13:58:19 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:58:19 -0500 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45DEF2FB.1030602@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> My mail provider (Yandex) adds OBORONA-SPAM to the subject of every >> email it thinks is spam. Unfortunately it always thinks mail-list emails >> could be spam. > > Is using gmane and nntp, rather than directly receiving mails, an option? Or better yet, just find another mail provider. Even Gmail has POP these days. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If this isn't clear enough, just don't use dpkg. > > # aptitude show postfix > > will give the information more clearly. > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Thanks derek :) Now if i have to install apache on ubuntu, how do i do it and also how do i start the apache web server, once it is installed actually i have worked on RedHat distrubution Thanks Kaushal From davidbteague at verizon.net Fri Feb 23 14:37:40 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:37:40 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? Message-ID: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> Disclaimer: I am aware this is off the topic of uses of Ubuntu. Some of you know more about killing spam than I ever will, so... If any object to this, by all means, send flames. However, any answer, even a link to a place that might provide an answer, that will be gratefully and appreciatively received. The Question: Can anyone recommend antispam software that works under XP with Thunderbird? Thunderbird Baysean spam detection isn't effective against spam that has advertisements in an embedded image. I use Verizon DSL. This is the only high speed internt available to me. Their antispam feature has about 20% false positives. I turned it off, yet I receive only a little more spam than when I was using it. (But still too much.) Ideally, I would like to have software that has a white list, initially populated from my address book; a black list, initially populated from the national known spammer database; that will challenge email senders who are not in the white list; that has Baysean spam detection and scans images to detect spam. Free software is to be desired, but I am willing to pay a reasonable price for proprietary software, if it runs on my local machine. Any advice other than use one of the Debian based Linux distros with Spam Assassin? There may be my answer. While waiting for an answer, I'll look for a version of Spam Assassin that works under Windows. Warmest Regards David Teague From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 14:54:42 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:54:42 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> David B Teague wrote: > Disclaimer: > > I am aware this is off the topic of uses of Ubuntu. Some of you know > more about killing spam than I ever will, so... If any object to this, > by all means, send flames. However, any answer, even a link to a place > that might provide an answer, that will be gratefully and > appreciatively received. > > The Question: > > Can anyone recommend antispam software that works under XP with > Thunderbird? Thunderbird Baysean spam detection isn't effective against > spam that has advertisements in an embedded image. > > I use Verizon DSL. This is the only high speed internt available to me. > Their antispam feature has about 20% false positives. I turned it off, > yet I receive only a little more spam than when I was using it. (But > still too much.) > > Ideally, I would like to have software that has a white list, initially > populated from my address book; a black list, initially populated from > the national known spammer database; that will challenge email senders > who are not in the white list; that has Baysean spam detection and scans > images to detect spam. Free software is to be desired, but I am willing > to pay a reasonable price for proprietary software, if it runs on my > local machine. > > Any advice other than use one of the Debian based Linux distros with > Spam Assassin? > > There may be my answer. While waiting for an answer, I'll look for a > version of Spam Assassin that works under Windows. > > Warmest Regards > David Teague > > > > I have that problem too. I use Thunderbird 1.5 for Winxp, and I haven't found any Spam filters yet that work with it. Thunderbird 1.5 does come with the option to send incoming mail to their junk folder, and any successive email from that domain/user is then automatically moved to that folder. As a matter of fact, that's the way most of your junk mail software works anyway. As time goes on, you usually get junk mail from the same places (usually) the junk mail downloading to your inbox lessens. I've created a filer for this mailing list, so my inbox doesn't get cluttered. I have two email addresses. I've done the same thing on the "Evolution" email client on my Linux box. Hope this helped -- Rick D. Windows system scanned by McAfee SecurityCenter Ver. 7 Database updated automatically ******************************************* When you do the right thing, people will think you've done nothing at all. -God (From Futurama) Live free or die. +Linux+ =8-) ******************************************* From zeller at ibh-wor.de Fri Feb 23 14:54:48 2007 From: zeller at ibh-wor.de (Benjamin E. Zeller) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:54:48 +0100 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> On Friday 23 February 2007 15:37, David B Teague wrote: > While waiting for an answer, I'll look for a > version of Spam Assassin that works under Windows. > If my brain isn't completely stucked I am quite sure, that there IS a Windows version of SpamAssasin > Warmest Regards > David Teague Benni -- Benjamin Zeller Ing.-Büro Hohmann Bahnhofstr. 34 D-82515 Wolfratshausen Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de www.ibh-wor.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 15:19:32 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:19:32 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aradsky at ne.rr.com Fri Feb 23 15:28:44 2007 From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:28:44 -0500 Subject: Saving ubuntu email to CD or DVD Message-ID: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> I'm running Thunderbird for email and have accumulated thousands of ubuntu list emails. I'd like to remove the older mail and save it on CD or DVD for future reference. How can this be done---saving and reading? alex From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 15:32:22 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:32:22 -0500 Subject: Evolution email client Message-ID: <1172244742.6159.5.camel@ubuntu> Speaking of which, I'm using Evolution 2.8.1 and I would like to know how to set it up to automatically fetch email from two or more accounts? -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From zeller at ibh-wor.de Fri Feb 23 15:45:29 2007 From: zeller at ibh-wor.de (Benjamin E. Zeller) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:45:29 +0100 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> Message-ID: <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> On Friday 23 February 2007 16:19, The enigma wrote: > Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 15:37, David B Teague wrote: > > > > While waiting for an answer, I'll look for a > version of Spam Assassin that works under Windows. > > > > If my brain isn't completely stucked I am quite sure, that there IS a > Windows version of SpamAssasin > > > Warmest Regards > David Teague > > > Benni > > SpamAssasin for Thunderbird? I'll check it out. Not for exactly thunderbird, but for "Wintendo". > Thanks. No prob P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) -- Benjamin Zeller Ing.-Büro Hohmann Bahnhofstr. 34 D-82515 Wolfratshausen Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de www.ibh-wor.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The newsid tool comes handy for this, but you will need to find out how to do this automagically, I am afraid. kind regards Eberhard From davidbteague at verizon.net Fri Feb 23 15:49:19 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:49:19 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> Message-ID: <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> The enigma wrote: > David B Teague wrote: > >> Disclaimer: >> >> >> >> Can anyone recommend antispam software that works under XP with >> Thunderbird? Thunderbird Baysean spam detection isn't effective against >> spam that has advertisements in an embedded image. >> >> >> >> [Spam Assassin may be my answerif there is a Windows version.] >> >> >> > > I have that problem too. I use Thunderbird 1.5 for Winxp, and I haven't > found any Spam filters yet that work with it. Thunderbird 1.5 does come > with the option to send incoming mail to their junk folder, and any > successive email from that domain/user is then automatically moved to > that folder. As a matter of fact, that's the way most of your junk mail > software works anyway. As time goes on, you usually get junk mail from > the same places (usually) the junk mail downloading to your inbox > lessens. I've created a filer for this mailing list, so my inbox doesn't > get cluttered. I have two email addresses. I've done the same thing on > the "Evolution" email client on my Linux box. > Hope this helped > > Unfortunately, spamming software is able spoof a different originating address for each batch of email they send. At least that has been my experience. Thunderbird examines the messages you mark as "junk" and keeps a data base of characteristics of messages you have junked. It reviews incoming messages for these characteristics.Uusing Baysean statistics, Thunderbird estimates the probability of the message being spam. If the probability is high enough, it junks the message. But that doesn't work well when the spam is in an image with innocuous text in addition to the image. The innocuous text confuses the Baysean data base, making the tool ineffective. Before these things began to pester me, Thunderbird's tool worked well, but now, it is just a waste. I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the whitelist. Warmest Regards David Teague From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 15:49:55 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:49:55 -0500 Subject: Saving ubuntu email to CD or DVD In-Reply-To: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> References: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> Message-ID: <45DF0D23.7040302@gatech.edu> alex wrote: > I'm running Thunderbird for email and have accumulated thousands of > ubuntu list emails. I'd like to remove the older mail and save it on > CD or DVD for future reference. > > How can this be done---saving and reading? By default, I think Thunderbird profiles are stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird . Look for the folder with the random name. The easiest thing is to move the mail you want to archive to a folder, then in the profile, find that folder (it'll be under Mail/Local Folders, ending with .sbd), and copy it and the associated file (they'll both start with the name you chose) to the CD. Then, when you want to read it, you'll have to copy it back. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From maxime.danis at crans.org Fri Feb 23 15:50:23 2007 From: maxime.danis at crans.org (Maxime DANIS) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:50:23 +0900 Subject: Saving ubuntu email to CD or DVD In-Reply-To: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> References: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> Message-ID: <45DF0D3F.1050808@crans.org> alex a écrit : > I'm running Thunderbird for email and have accumulated thousands of > ubuntu list emails. I'd like to remove the older mail and save it on > CD or DVD for future reference. > > How can this be done---saving and reading? > All the mail are archived on ubuntu servers. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ and if you want to search in. http://www.google.fr/search?q=site%3Alists.ubuntu.com so no need to burn a dvd -- Maxime DANIS From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 23 15:57:10 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:57:10 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> Derek Broughton wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> > >>> I'll tell you what I thing are the main differences between Wine > >>> (and its forks : Cedega and CrossOverOffice) and VMware : > >>> > >>> Wine : > >>> - no need for windows license > >> > >> Legally, or practically? Many things you might run under Wine are > >> _legally_ required to have a Windows license. > > > > That's simply not true. > > You keep doing that to me. It IS true. Yes, it most certainly is. I use to do a considerable amount of work for some attorneys who were involved in software copyright and licensing law on an international scale. We use to chit chat about all sorts of things. ;) In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95... for a couple reasons that have to do with Microsoft's EULA changes starting with Windows 98. In fact if you aren't running a legal copy of Windows, software authors and their agents can't legally warranty and support their products without facing the wrath of Bill's considerable legal staff. Not an enviable place to be, which is why in the business world legal copies of Windows are most often explicitly stated as a requirement rather than just implied. For the average home user this isn't a real issue because nobody really knows if your copy of Windows is legal, or cares if they do. But that doesn't change the fact that technically if you're running a bootleg copy of Windows you're committing multiple offenses with every third party software install. > > > Components of Windows need a Windows license, > > but there's a whole lot of Windows software that isn't even put out > > by Microsoft. > > Of course there is. I didn't say you couldn't run any software under > Wine. In fact lots of good software does run under Wine, and legally > (at least in my non-legal opinion), too. > > However, as I said, _many_ applications are legally required to have a > Windows license. I think you'll find that almost all Microsoft > software EULAs specifically require you to have a Windows license, Indeed. And if you look at something like the IEs4Linux "Legal Notices" page you'll find this explained and linked in some detail. > plus any software that requires any DLLs or fonts or any other > Windows component, that has not been freely released by Microsoft. Which would also cover the vast majority of Windows applications. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott K From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 23 16:19:11 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:19:11 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20070223111911.07a8f9d4@chisel> David B Teague wrote: > Unfortunately, spamming software is able spoof a different > originating address for each batch of email they send. At least that > has been my experience. Thunderbird examines the messages you mark as > "junk" and keeps a data base of characteristics of messages you have > junked. It reviews incoming messages for these characteristics.Uusing > Baysean statistics, Thunderbird estimates the probability of the > message being spam. If the probability is high enough, it junks the > message. > > But that doesn't work well when the spam is in an image with > innocuous text in addition to the image. The innocuous text confuses That's simply untrue. My spam filters catch almost all of this sort of "viagra" traffic. Even the new stuff with paragraphs of Markov chain generated text built from actual, legitimate messages. Spotting "innocuous text" that exists in conjunction with an image of certain properties is one of the very reasons for the existence of bayesian filters. Your spam software just needs trained properly (oe switched out if it can't be). Bogo and SA both can be, FWIW. > the Baysean data base, making the tool ineffective. Before these > things began to pester me, Thunderbird's tool worked well, but now, > it is just a waste. I really want something that will challenge > everyone not on the whitelist. Challenge-response is *evil*. The only things you'll accomplish are duplicating spam one for one and clogging up mail servers with more useless messages, notifying spammers you're alive and well as some address, and annoying senders of legitimate messages into just not bothering to exchange email with you. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From webguytx at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 16:26:50 2007 From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:26:50 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition Message-ID: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does not show my Winxp partition either. Robert From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 23 16:30:32 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:30:32 -0500 Subject: Evolution email client In-Reply-To: <1172244742.6159.5.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172244742.6159.5.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <20070223113032.72089a10@chisel> The enigma wrote: > Speaking of which, I'm using Evolution 2.8.1 and I would like to know > how to set it up to automatically fetch email from two or more > accounts? Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts... then for each account you do a Edit -> Receiving Options and check the box next to "Automatically...". Or doesn't this work? If that's the case then apparently Evolution needs to be in an account's "mode" to check that accounts mail. I'd call that broken, but you could always set up a single account in Evolution that used a local mailbox, and set up Fetchmail to collect all the various outside email and put it there. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think you understand the meaning of "Name", "Version" and "Description", so let's have a look at the three one-lettered fields at the beginning: The first field is set to "i", so according to the caption, the desired action that dpkg sees for this package is "Install". You didn't ask for an action and there are no conflicts, so this is just a result of the second field. The second field is set to "i", which means the current status is "Installed". This is what you wanted to know. The third field is empty, which means there is no error. Try to recognise the table header as an illustration with lines pointing to the first three fields. That way you will be able to interpret the abbreviated status fields. Normally they are the lower case initials of the possible values described above. If they are upper case, something is badly broken, which is suggested in parentheses. [x] ulf -- Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them. From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Feb 23 16:35:13 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:35:13 +0000 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: <45DEE71D.6000306@gatech.edu> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> <45DEE71D.6000306@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45DF17C1.7020603@yandex.ru> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>> Can someone please tell me what OBORONA-SPAM is? >>> >>> Matthew Flaschen >>> >>> >> >> Oh dear >> I'm sorry - it's my fault. >> My mail provider (Yandex) adds OBORONA-SPAM to the subject of every >> email it thinks is spam. Unfortunately it always thinks mail-list emails >> could be spam. When I reply to a post I have to manually delete >> OBORONA-SPAM from the subject, but sometimes I forget, or can't be bothered. >> >> When I was using KDE, Kmail had an option to automatically rewrite the >> messages headers and remove it. But months ago I switched to Gnome, and >> more recently to OS X, and I can't find a way to rewrite messages > > There's always an SMTP proxy. :) > > Don't worry. It seems to be an international sensation > (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=uUu&q=OBORONA-SPAM&btnG=Search). > I have to say, though, it seems a pretty stupid spam tagging method. > My ISP/university adds X- email headers which aren't displayed. It tags > it with a rating (how likely to be spam) and descriptive tags. Both > can be fed into Thunderbird, though I use just the rating. For example, > the header for your email was: > > X-GT-Spam-Rating: (7%) > X-GT-Spam-Details: No antispam rules were triggered by this message > > Matthew Flaschen > > I'm quite happy with my mail provider. Don't fancy changing either, nothing really wrong. But the spam thing is annoying, it is so sensitive that virtually every email I receive is marked with OBORONA-SPAM. THought that it would have learned by now....! From rkimber at ntlworld.com Fri Feb 23 16:52:31 2007 From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:52:31 +0000 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20070223165231.1e8957ec.rkimber@ntlworld.com> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:49:19 -0500 David B Teague wrote: > But that doesn't work well when the spam is in an image with > innocuous text in addition to the image. The innocuous text confuses > the Baysean data base, making the tool ineffective. Before these > things began to pester me, Thunderbird's tool worked well, but now, > it is just a waste. I really want something that will challenge > everyone not on the whitelist. I don't know about Thunderbird, but with a Bayesian system you teach it what is spam and what is not. That means that if you don't normally receive image-based messages you can teach it to classify them as spam. I have never had my Bayesian system (Bogofilter) mis-classify a message because it contained an image. The messages it has difficulty with are those spam messages that are very similar to the *normal* non-spam messages you receive. Though after some period of training it is even very good at dealing with these, in my experience. YMMV, though, because some people's view of legitimate email can be quite different from that of others. - Richard. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Feb 23 17:12:18 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:12:18 -0500 Subject: [OT] Re: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: <45DF17C1.7020603@yandex.ru> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> <45DEE71D.6000306@gatech.edu> <45DF17C1.7020603@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20070223121218.70fbe2d4@chisel> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I'm quite happy with my mail provider. Don't fancy changing either, > nothing really wrong. But the spam thing is annoying, it is so > sensitive that virtually every email I receive is marked with Pardon my asking, but how could you possibly be happy with a provider who marked "virtually every email" as spam, effectively castrating their own spam measures with a flood of false positives. It's worse than not having antispam measures in place. You certainly can't take any action on it. It's a waste of time and and good Subject: headers at best, and a potential loss of valid mail otherwise. ;) > OBORONA-SPAM. THought that it would have learned by now....! It can be trained? Are you sure there's not something you need to do to make this happen, like forwarding spam to some address or copying it to some folder, and getting examples of valid mail to another similar location? Or are you doing that and it's still broken?? -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Feb 23 17:14:53 2007 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:14:53 +0100 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: Patton Echols wrote: > My understanding is that wine can be used for running individual windows > apps under linux. yes >vmware is used for running an entire windows (or > other os) environment under linux. yes Currently my laptop can dual boot > Ubuntu Edgy and XP home. Though I have moved the majority of my digital > life to Ubuntu, there are still some windows apps that I need to keep. > I have not yet figured out either wine or vmware. > > In either case, my understanding is that I can run wine / VM and point > to the Win program / partition to run. vmware: no. You need to have a "newly installed Windows" inside your vmware software. There are ways to convert your existing physical windows installation to a vmware windows, but imho there is no way to use the existing windows installation on your harddisk with vmware. wine: yes/no Actually some years ago it was recommended to use the existing windows installation for wine but imho this changed. Imho nowadays wine is supposed to better work "standalone" i.e. not using an existing windows installation. The difference as I see it is > that Vmware would give access to the entire windows desktop yes while wine > would just run the program. yes Again, this is probably one of those things > that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've > been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly > concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but > since it takes more setup, no, it does not. The setup is extremely simply and also well explained on the ubuntu wiki. Wine in contrast may cost you days or weeks until a Windows Application might work. Cross-over is another thing (it is some sort of commercial wine and well supported by the verndor), but it costs you money, while vmware itsel does not cost you anything (as in VMware server) I had not gotten to it yet. The recent > edubuntu / ltsp thread makes me wonder whether I need to do more > thinking on the subject. > > Does anyone have thoughts on why I should choose one route over the other? > > If you only need to make "easy applications" run, you might try wine. The same applies if you are low on the specs of your computer in regard to cpu and memory. Wile wine generally need the memory that your computer has, vmware imho begins to run rather well with 1Ghz CPU and 512Megabytes, 1 Gigabyte of Ram is even better. If you want to seriously work with windows on top of your linux, vmware is the way to go. Either one will require a windows License. Wine, because most apps need it from their license agreements, vmware, because you run a "real windows" inside your Linux, that, naturally, requires you pay the MS Tax. regards Eberhard From davin at nerdshack.com Fri Feb 23 17:20:46 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:20:46 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> Robert schreef: > I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not > show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does > not show my Winxp partition either. > > Robert > > Hello Robert, Please check if your harddrive/partition is recognised by going to System > Administration > Disks > Your Harddrive > Tab 'Partitions' From mlnx at mho.com Fri Feb 23 17:39:24 2007 From: mlnx at mho.com (Mike Adolf) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:39:24 -0700 Subject: Fan Control? Message-ID: <45DF26CC.3020102@mho.com> Is any one running on a dell xps 410. I am, and the cooling fans come on at top speed during boot, but never ramp down as they do when I boot windows. Does anyone know of this problem and a solution? The system is near useless for linux. Thanks, Mike From davidbteague at verizon.net Fri Feb 23 17:45:53 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:45:53 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <45DF2851.70609@verizon.net> Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 16:19, The enigma wrote: > >> Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: >> On Friday 23 February 2007 15:37, David B Teague wrote: >> >> >> >> >> SpamAssasin for Thunderbird? I'll check it out. >> > > Not for exactly thunderbird, but for "Wintendo". > Windendo? Native XP looks like a Fischer-Price toy, but Wintendo suggests something only slightly more sophisticated than Game-Boy, if that. Game boy is likely more stable than even XP, which is better than W98se was > >> Thanks. >> > > No prob > > P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) > Apologies! I know better. Thunderbird usually presents me a radio button that gives me the choice of "Text only email" or HTML or HTML+text when I press send. I must have pressed HTML. If THIS arrives in HTML format, let me know, I'll have to do something, because I will press "Text only" this time. Warmest Regards From davidbteague at verizon.net Fri Feb 23 17:51:15 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:51:15 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <45DF2993.2070900@verizon.net> Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 10:49, David B Teague wrote: > > >> Unfortunately, spamming software is able spoof a different originating >> address for each batch of email they send. >> > ... > > >> I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the whitelist. >> > > Please don't do this. You obviously know that the addresses in the spam are > forged. If you send challenges for these kinds of messages, then you are > spamming innocent bystanders. > > Scott K > > Earthlink and a few other ISP spam protection methods do this. I thought is was a good idea, and I have never received a challenge for email I did not send. Nevertheless, I will rethink that position. Thanks for the suggestion. Warmest Regards David Teague From davidbteague at verizon.net Fri Feb 23 18:04:35 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:04:35 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > > > P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) > Benni Curious.I understand why you don't care for HTML mail. It can make a mess on some mail readers, but I checked the source of email messages I sent as received from the list; there is no HTML in any email I have sent. Is there html content in messages you received from me through the list? Warmest Regards David Teague From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 18:11:44 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:11:44 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45DF2E60.3000905@gatech.edu> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Wine, because most apps need > it from their license agreements Most Windows apps do not require a Windows license. Some Microsoft apps do. There's a world of difference between the two. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 18:12:33 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:12:33 -0500 Subject: Evolution email client In-Reply-To: <20070223113032.72089a10@chisel> References: <1172244742.6159.5.camel@ubuntu> <20070223113032.72089a10@chisel> Message-ID: <1172254353.11732.1.camel@ubuntu> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 11:30 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > The enigma wrote: > > > Speaking of which, I'm using Evolution 2.8.1 and I would like to know > > how to set it up to automatically fetch email from two or more > > accounts? > > Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts... then for each account you do a > Edit -> Receiving Options and check the box next to "Automatically...". > > Or doesn't this work? > > If that's the case then apparently Evolution needs to be in an > account's "mode" to check that accounts mail. I'd call that broken, but > you could always set up a single account in Evolution that used a local > mailbox, and set up Fetchmail to collect all the various outside email > and put it there. > I had that option set for both accounts. I just unchecked/rechecked the option, and now it works...strange. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi Fri Feb 23 18:18:14 2007 From: ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi (Ari Torhamo) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:18:14 +0200 (EET) Subject: 1 checksum keeps failing with feisty-desktop-i386 21022007 Message-ID: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> I just downloaded and burned feisty-desktop-i386.iso of 21.7. I keep getting one checksum fail when I check the disk no matter what I do. I have downloaded the file three times and burned it to two different disks (from different manufacturers). Could it be that the file is corrupt? I have downloaded and burned feisty twice before this without problems. Actually, to my remembering, I have never had a checksum problem with any of my ubuntu disks before. Is anyone else having problems with this file? In the meantime I might give herd 4 a try to have something to move on with. Thanks, Ari Torhamo From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:24:17 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:24:17 -0500 Subject: upgrading to feisty Message-ID: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> is there a special way to upgrade from edgy to feisty, like, by using edgy, or do I have to boot from cd to install it? TIA ~Erik From eschmidt90 at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:27:49 2007 From: eschmidt90 at gmail.com (Erik Schmidt) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:27:49 -0500 Subject: edit: upgrading to feisty Message-ID: <4EBE094E-0A11-40A5-954F-8E938E7E19ED@gmail.com> please ignore that last e-mail I asked because I saw some discussions of installing feisty, I did not realize it was an alpha release I checked the website and they don't have it for download as far as I can tell, so nevermind sorry ~Erik From ssweeny at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:28:41 2007 From: ssweeny at gmail.com (Scott Sweeny) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:28:41 -0500 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/23/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > is there a special way to upgrade from edgy to feisty, like, by using > edgy, or do I have to boot from cd to install it? > > TIA > > ~Erik 'sudo update-manager -c -d' should do you fine. ~Scott From webguytx at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:29:02 2007 From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:29:02 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> Davin Terrizzi wrote: > Robert schreef: > >> I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not >> show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does >> not show my Winxp partition either. >> >> Robert >> >> >> > Hello Robert, Please check if your harddrive/partition is recognised by > going to System > Administration > Disks > Your Harddrive > Tab 'Partitions' > > > Its shown in the /dev folder as hda5. I'm not at home, I have to check that tonight. Robert From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 18:28:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:28:34 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> Message-ID: Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > > >> plus any software that requires any DLLs or fonts or any other >> Windows component, that has not been freely released by Microsoft. > > Which would also cover the vast majority of Windows applications. ;) Well, strictly not. These days, Wine can pretty well work without requiring those DLLs or fonts (or any other bits of Windows), but there will always be some apps that use a quirky and so-far un-emulated DLL (please don't anybody tell me Wine isn't an emulator...). -- derek From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 18:33:55 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:33:55 -0500 Subject: Strange.... Message-ID: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> I had something strange happen this morning. I got a pop-up from Netscape, asking if I want to set up an error log transmission with them. I tried to close the window, but it wouldn't close. I logged off/on again, and it popped up a couple of minutes later. All I could do to get rid of this, was to choose "next", and check something like "not at this time". Does anybody out there know what that might have been? I don't have Netscape on my Linux box, I use Firefox. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From spbasset at ptd.net Fri Feb 23 18:34:43 2007 From: spbasset at ptd.net (Simon Bassett) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:34:43 -0500 Subject: edit: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <4EBE094E-0A11-40A5-954F-8E938E7E19ED@gmail.com> References: <4EBE094E-0A11-40A5-954F-8E938E7E19ED@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172255683.9159.2.camel@linuxbox.bassett.org> Yup yup. Still pre-release. I am running it. If you don't mind screaming and cursing at your monitor every now and again (major breakage is to be expected), it is really coming along quite well. In the past week, Beryl became completely unusable and deskbar took a poo-poo, but as of right now, everything seems to be back in order. Feisty will be available for mass consumption in April (barring any last minute tie ups). On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:27 -0500, Erik Schmidt wrote: > please ignore that last e-mail > > I asked because I saw some discussions of installing feisty, I did > not realize it was an alpha release > > I checked the website and they don't have it for download as far as I > can tell, so nevermind > > sorry > > ~Erik > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 18:25:06 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:25:06 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > Again, this is probably one of those things >> that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've >> been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly >> concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but >> since it takes more setup, > no, it does not. The setup is extremely simply and also well explained > on the ubuntu wiki. I would agree. I finally switched my one app from Wine (horribly difficult to keep working, though it did work) to vmware. Now, I'll have to recreate my vmware virtual disk every month, I think, because it won't accept my perfectly valid (OEM) Windows license, but that's less hassle than Wine. -- derek From golfbuf at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:35:11 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:35:11 -0500 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > is there a special way to upgrade from edgy to feisty, like, by using > edgy, or do I have to boot from cd to install it? It's probably too early to try an upgrade, unless you can risk having a broken system for a while. I installed hurd 4, and then could not get my ati graphics working for several days until I got all the updates installed. Also, my usb modem is now disonnecting due to kernel problems. Needless to say, if you have to have a working system, you'd better stick with edgy for now. But, for testers, you can probably just change the sources.list to point to feisty. Here's the one that came with hurd 4: <<<<<<<< /etc/apt/sources.list for feisty hurd 4 >>>>>>>>>> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 18:37:00 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:00 -0500 Subject: Strange... In-Reply-To: <1172254825.11732.10.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172254825.11732.10.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <1172255820.11732.15.camel@ubuntu> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:20 -0500, Rick wrote: > I had something strange happen this morning. I got a pop-up from > Netscape, asking if I want to set up an error log transmission with > them. I tried to close the window, but it wouldn't close. I logged > off/on again, and it popped up a couple of minutes later. All I could do > to get rid of this, was to choose "next", and check something like "not > at this time". Does anybody out there know what that might have been? I > don't have Netscape on my Linux box, I use Firefox. Please deny email from rdonahu2 at optonline.net. I'm enigma at rick-net.com. I have two accounts. I sent the above message through the wrong account. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From ssweeny at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:37:20 2007 From: ssweeny at gmail.com (Scott Sweeny) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:20 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: On 2/23/07, The enigma wrote: > I had something strange happen this morning. I got a pop-up from > Netscape, asking if I want to set up an error log transmission with > them. I tried to close the window, but it wouldn't close. I logged > off/on again, and it popped up a couple of minutes later. All I could do > to get rid of this, was to choose "next", and check something like "not > at this time". Does anybody out there know what that might have been? I > don't have Netscape on my Linux box, I use Firefox. What programs were you using at the time? If you had firefox open, what site(s) were you visiting? ~Scott From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 18:45:59 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:45:59 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45DF3667.4040108@gatech.edu> David B Teague wrote: > Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: >> >> >> >> P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) >> > Benni > > Curious.I understand why you don't care for HTML mail. It can make a > mess on some mail readers, but I checked the source of email messages I > sent as received from the list; there is no HTML in any email I have > sent. Is there html content in messages you received from me through > the list? I just set Thunderbird to ignore any HTML content. Sender's loss if you they don't express everything in plain text (including possible URLs) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From davin at nerdshack.com Fri Feb 23 18:48:39 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:48:39 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DF3707.3040807@nerdshack.com> Robert wrote: > Davin Terrizzi wrote: > >> Robert schreef: >> >> >>> I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not >>> show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does >>> not show my Winxp partition either. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hello Robert, Please check if your harddrive/partition is recognised by >> going to System > Administration > Disks > Your Harddrive > Tab 'Partitions' >> >> >> >> > Its shown in the /dev folder as hda5. I'm not at home, I have to check > that tonight. > > Robert > > Hello again Robert So I think youve probably done the 'default layout'. That is fine. Ubuntu accesses your files like this: /dev/hda5 (your harddrive, a file) is mounted to a folder (something like /media/datafiles/ for example). The question is: Does Ubuntu mount your partition automaticly? type 'sudo mount' to look if its mounted. Good luck! Davin From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 18:51:15 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:51:15 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> Derek Broughton wrote: > Eberhard Roloff wrote: > >> Patton Echols wrote: >> >> Again, this is probably one of those things >>> that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've >>> been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly >>> concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but >>> since it takes more setup, >> no, it does not. The setup is extremely simply and also well explained >> on the ubuntu wiki. > > I would agree. I finally switched my one app from Wine (horribly difficult > to keep working, though it did work) to vmware. Now, I'll have to recreate > my vmware virtual disk every month, I think, because it won't accept my > perfectly valid (OEM) Windows license, but that's less hassle than Wine. It is not legally valid, since you're not using it directly with the hardware it was sold with. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bo.2 at systemhouse.dk Fri Feb 23 19:06:02 2007 From: bo.2 at systemhouse.dk (Bo Jacobsen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:06:02 +0100 Subject: Graphic problems when booting Message-ID: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> I'm new to Ubuntu, and have downloaded the latest 6.10 version to try it out. My problem is that when booting the CD onto a MS Virtual PC, the graphics goes into a very strange (and very wide) mode that makes it impossible to view whats going on. I can see that something is displayed and Ubuntu is running, but the screen is a mess. The first boot screen where one can select "Start or install Ubuntu, Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode..." is displayed correctly, but no matter what graphics mode or resolution I select, after the Ubuntu standard boot window (with the progress bar) is finished, the graphics mode changes, and the screen is unreadable. I think the final screen is a menu with the menu elements like "Application Places System" or something like that. The mouse works and I can invoke things, but it's very difficult to see whats going on., but it's clear the the system is running. Any suggestions ? /Bo PS: SuSE linux, BSD, OpenBSD and a lot of other linux's doesn't have this problem. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 19:06:32 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:06:32 -0400 Subject: dpkg -l postfix References: <6b16fb4c0702230415j8932a67ubf3ab1be970db816@mail.gmail.com> <6b16fb4c0702230602n71e51895jc39827b2195c1fbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Now if i have to install apache on ubuntu, how do i do it and also how > do i start the apache web server, once it is installed actually i have > worked on RedHat distrubution # aptitude install apache2 (or use your favorite graphical package manager) At that point it should in fact be already started, and going to http://localhost/ will show you the default page. Drop pages under /var/www, and configure extra options in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ -- derek From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Fri Feb 23 19:44:08 2007 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:44:08 +0100 Subject: hardware advice (mother board) Message-ID: <200702232044.08487.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Hi, I bought an ASUS P5B-E mother board. It was awsome: - NIC problems (solved, but only in development version now) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/81412 - IDE problems (solved, but only in development version now) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502 - PAE problems http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+asus+memory+remap I have 4G RAM and a Core 2 Duo E660CPU and nVidia 7xxx graohic card (I dont need the features brought by the proprietary drivers) What motherbord of the moment would work on it? I need to buy one motherboard quickly so that saturday night or sunday morning the box is up and running. And the 4G RAM need to be all used, and network up. Thank you. From bo.2 at systemhouse.dk Fri Feb 23 19:47:32 2007 From: bo.2 at systemhouse.dk (Bo Jacobsen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:47:32 +0100 Subject: Graphic problems when booting - more info In-Reply-To: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> References: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> Message-ID: <45DF44D4.2030403@systemhouse.dk> > > I'm new to Ubuntu, and have downloaded the latest 6.10 version to try it > out. > > My problem is that when booting the CD onto a MS Virtual PC, the > graphics goes into a very strange (and very wide) mode that makes it > impossible to view whats going on. I can see that something is displayed > and Ubuntu is running, but the screen is a mess. > > The first boot screen where one can select "Start or install Ubuntu, > Start Ubuntu > in safe graphics mode..." is displayed correctly, but no matter what > graphics mode > or resolution I select, after the Ubuntu standard boot window (with the > progress bar) > is finished, the graphics mode changes, and the screen is unreadable. > I think the final screen is a menu with the menu elements like > "Application Places System" > or something like that. The mouse works and I can invoke things, but > it's very difficult to see > whats going on., but it's clear the the system is running. > > > > Any suggestions ? > /Bo > > > PS: SuSE linux, BSD, OpenBSD and a lot of other linux's doesn't have > this problem. > > When it goes wrong I can see that Ubuntu changes the resolution from 1024x768 (in the window with the progress bar) to a strange resolution of 1600x600x8 ?!. My screen run natively 1680 x 1050, but changing the resolution on the host pc (where Virtual pc is running) don't matter. Ubuntu always selects resolution 1600x600, no matter what I do. Is there a way to force Ubuntu to ALWAYS use a specific resolution like 1024x760 or 1280x1024, at this specific place in the boot sequence ? /Bo From enigma at rick-net.com Fri Feb 23 19:55:42 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:55:42 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssweeny at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 20:20:15 2007 From: ssweeny at gmail.com (Scott Sweeny) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:20:15 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> Message-ID: > What's up, Scott. > > I wasn't on the web at all. I happened to be using Mozilla Sunbird > calendar. I don't know if that had anything to do with that message box from > Netscape, or not. I wasn't directly trying to access the web. Really weird! > It's almost like they wanted to setup a file of some kind, on my machine to > send them error logs. (???) > -- > Rick D. Hey Rick, A couple more questions: 1. Was Sunbird by any chance crashing or producing an error that you know of? 2. Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on that machine? This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. ~Scott From wattazoum at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 20:28:56 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:28:56 +0100 Subject: Graphic problems when booting In-Reply-To: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> References: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> Message-ID: Bo Jacobsen a écrit : > I'm new to Ubuntu, and have downloaded the latest 6.10 version to try it > out. > > My problem is that when booting the CD onto a MS Virtual PC, the > graphics goes into a very strange (and very wide) mode that makes it > impossible to view whats going on. I can see that something is displayed > and Ubuntu is running, but the screen is a mess. > > The first boot screen where one can select "Start or install Ubuntu, > Start Ubuntu > in safe graphics mode..." is displayed correctly, but no matter what > graphics mode > or resolution I select, after the Ubuntu standard boot window (with the > progress bar) > is finished, the graphics mode changes, and the screen is unreadable. > I think the final screen is a menu with the menu elements like > "Application Places System" > or something like that. The mouse works and I can invoke things, but > it's very difficult to see > whats going on., but it's clear the the system is running. > > > > Any suggestions ? > /Bo > > > PS: SuSE linux, BSD, OpenBSD and a lot of other linux's doesn't have > this problem. I don't know about you're problem but I know that running a linux guest on MS Virtual PC isn't well support. Try using VMware Player . The most of us is using VMware Player for Virtualization. And I could help you on that. So, about MS Virtual PC, The software use the computer's drivers to emulate a VM, and since MS doesn't care about linux, that emulation is only done for windows. I guess when using the other distros you cited, you forced the resolution to be what you wanted. On ubuntu you can do that by running : $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend Gnome You can also modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf and use the resolution you want. Anyway, my advice is, stop using MS Virtual PC for Linux guests and use the Free VMware Player and VMware Server. From webguytx at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 20:39:08 2007 From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:39:08 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF3707.3040807@nerdshack.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> <45DF3707.3040807@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <45DF50EC.6040506@gmail.com> Davin Terrizzi wrote: > Robert wrote: > >> Davin Terrizzi wrote: >> >> >>> Robert schreef: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not >>>> show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does >>>> not show my Winxp partition either. >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hello Robert, Please check if your harddrive/partition is recognised by >>> going to System > Administration > Disks > Your Harddrive > Tab 'Partitions' >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Its shown in the /dev folder as hda5. I'm not at home, I have to check >> that tonight. >> >> Robert >> >> >> > Hello again Robert > So I think youve probably done the 'default layout'. That is fine. > Ubuntu accesses your files like this: > /dev/hda5 (your harddrive, a file) is mounted to a folder (something > like /media/datafiles/ for example). The question is: Does Ubuntu mount > your partition automaticly? type 'sudo mount' to look if its mounted. > Good luck! > > Davin > > > No, the drive is not listed in /media folder. Robert From wattazoum at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 21:02:56 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:02:56 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF50EC.6040506@gmail.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> <45DF3707.3040807@nerdshack.com> <45DF50EC.6040506@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please give us the result of $ sudo fdisk -l and $ cat /etc/fstab and also $ mount | grep -e "/dev" From burner at suppressingfire.org Fri Feb 23 21:09:02 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:09:02 -0500 Subject: 1 checksum keeps failing with feisty-desktop-i386 21022007 In-Reply-To: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> References: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: <1172264942.7626.15.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Ari Torhamo wrote: > I just downloaded and burned feisty-desktop-i386.iso of 21.7. I keep > getting one checksum fail when I check the disk no matter what I do. I > have downloaded the file three times and burned it to two different > disks (from different manufacturers). Could it be that the file is > corrupt? I have downloaded and burned feisty twice before this without > problems. Actually, to my remembering, I have never had a checksum > problem with any of my ubuntu disks before. > > Is anyone else having problems with this file? In the meantime I might > give herd 4 a try to have something to move on with. You can mount the ISO itself before burning and check the checksums. $ mkdir iso $ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso iso $ cd iso $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt ... lots of output ... If everything's OK, then the ISO is fine, and the problem may lie with the burner or media. mike > Thanks, > > Ari Torhamo > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Fri Feb 23 21:55:47 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:55:47 -0800 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02/23/2007 08:26 AM, Robert wrote: > I just install Ubuntu 6.10 on a dual boot with Winxp pro. It does not > show my fat 32 partition. How do I get it to show this drive? It does > not show my Winxp partition either. > > Robert > Please have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s03.html or http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy and particularly section # 1.15 Windows: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Windows Also: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/ http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows If you want to go the other way and see your linux partitions from XP, try: http://freshmeat.net/projects/ext2ifs/ http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm [authors home page] From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 23 14:10:49 2007 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:10:49 +0000 Subject: hardware advice (mother board) In-Reply-To: <200702232044.08487.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> References: <200702232044.08487.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <45DEF5E9.3010507@sbcglobal.net> Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi, > I bought an ASUS P5B-E mother board. > It was awsome: > > - NIC problems (solved, but only in development version now) > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/81412 > > - IDE problems (solved, but only in development version now) > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502 > > - PAE problems > http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+asus+memory+remap > > I have 4G RAM and a Core 2 Duo E660CPU and nVidia 7xxx graohic card (I dont > need the features brought by the proprietary drivers) > What motherbord of the moment would work on it? > I need to buy one motherboard quickly so that saturday night or sunday morning > the box is up and running. And the 4G RAM need to be all used, and network > up. > > Thank you. > > This link will let you plug in your hardware to see what mobos come up as compatible. http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/ Hope this helps Jerry From tommy.trussell at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 22:19:02 2007 From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:19:02 -0600 Subject: Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine] Message-ID: <3c5484cf0702231419l18e41e3cjd1135f6f02c38dfc@mail.gmail.com> I can't help with most of these but ... On 2/22/07, Patton Echols wrote: > On 02/22/2007 12:46 PM, Peter Garrett wrote: > > Looking at your original post in the previous thread, I notice that you are > > entirely focused on working out a way to run Windows - is there any > > possibility that you could use Linux for the needs your users have? ... > (2) Yes, I think Linux is a good idea. That's why I run it on my laptop > as the most used OS. However, there are a few windows apps that I still > need. Mostly related to my astronomy hobby. Until I find a linux > replacement . . . ... > Ok, But if anyone responds to any of these, might I suggest starting a > new thread??? > > Cartes du Ciel - Yes there is a linux version in Beta. It is very rough > around the edges. The windows version is a little clunky, the linux > version is worse, both usability and display. (For planetarium > software, minimum requirement is the ability to select and deselect > catalogs on the fly including the Tycho-2, WDS, SAO, etc. ) If that > was the ONLY reason I still needed windows, I'd probably bite the bullet > and buy XEphem. > Virtual Moon Atlas - Not even a Beta AFAIK How about http://moon.google.com/ --? > registax - able to extract frames from an avi, select the least > distorted frames, align, stack and process into an image, with > selections for "drizzle" mode, derotation, wavelet processing, etc. > (This one says it runs under wine, but I'll need to upgrade to version 4) > WinOccult - A program for predicting lunar and asteroid occultations of > bright stars, How about http://occult.tungstentech.com/default.aspx --? > HP PhotoDelux (like Photoshop Lite) -- Yes, yes, I know that the Gimp is > supposed to be great - and I am determined to spend the time to figure > it out if I can, (especially since Photodelux is on the home desktop and > not the lappy where it belongs.) But it seems to me that the interfaces > are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me > pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > Intervideo DVD Creator - For capturing video and doing non linear > editing and burning to dvd. (In a perfect world I'd like to see one > that you can view the frame by frame video with audio diagram underneath > (like you see in audacity) so you can cut at an exact frame or manually > synchronize audio to video when the capture goes poorly. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Feb 23 22:14:58 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:14:58 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> >>> Patton Echols wrote: >>> >>> Again, this is probably one of those things >>>> that is obvious once you have worked with it even a little bit, I've >>>> been reading but have not attempted to do either. I had mostly >>>> concluded from reading that the VMWare route was the better choice, but >>>> since it takes more setup, >>> no, it does not. The setup is extremely simply and also well explained >>> on the ubuntu wiki. >> >> I would agree. I finally switched my one app from Wine (horribly >> difficult >> to keep working, though it did work) to vmware. Now, I'll have to >> recreate my vmware virtual disk every month, I think, because it won't >> accept my perfectly valid (OEM) Windows license, but that's less hassle >> than Wine. > > It is not legally valid, since you're not using it directly with the > hardware it was sold with. > Yes, I am using it _directly_ with the hardware it was sold with. Are you a lawyer? I admit I'm not, but my reading of Canadian law tells me I'm very well within my rights to use an OEM licensed version of Windows on the same hardware for which that license was issued. The fact that there's an emulation layer between that OS and the hardware makes no difference at all. It _might_ make a difference in the US, where copyright law can be _much_ more restrictive. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Feb 23 23:33:28 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:33:28 -0500 Subject: 1 checksum keeps failing with feisty-desktop-i386 21022007 In-Reply-To: <1172264942.7626.15.camel@localhost> References: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> <1172264942.7626.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45DF79C8.6090905@gatech.edu> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Ari Torhamo wrote: >> I just downloaded and burned feisty-desktop-i386.iso of 21.7. I keep >> getting one checksum fail when I check the disk no matter what I do. I >> have downloaded the file three times and burned it to two different >> disks (from different manufacturers). Could it be that the file is >> corrupt? I have downloaded and burned feisty twice before this without >> problems. Actually, to my remembering, I have never had a checksum >> problem with any of my ubuntu disks before. >> >> Is anyone else having problems with this file? In the meantime I might >> give herd 4 a try to have something to move on with. > > You can mount the ISO itself before burning and check the checksums. > > $ mkdir iso > $ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso iso > $ cd iso > $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt > ... > lots of output > ... > > If everything's OK, then the ISO is fine, and the problem may lie with > the burner or media. If you want to check the iso before burning, just run md5sum on it: md5sum ubuntu-7.04-whatever.iso , then compare to the appropriate md5sum at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes . There's no need to mount it. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on > that machine? > > This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog > pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could > help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. Mozilla is of course based on Netscape, and it has a Talkback crash reporting system. I've never had it come up on Sunbird, but it's possible that Sunbird does have it, and they forgot to take out some mention of Netscape. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The setup is extremely simply and also well explained >>>> on the ubuntu wiki. >>> I would agree. I finally switched my one app from Wine (horribly >>> difficult >>> to keep working, though it did work) to vmware. Now, I'll have to >>> recreate my vmware virtual disk every month, I think, because it won't >>> accept my perfectly valid (OEM) Windows license, but that's less hassle >>> than Wine. >> It is not legally valid, since you're not using it directly with the >> hardware it was sold with. >> > Yes, I am using it _directly_ with the hardware it was sold with. Are you a > lawyer? No, I should have said that. Sorry. I admit I'm not, but my reading of Canadian law tells me I'm very > well within my rights to use an OEM licensed version of Windows on the same > hardware for which that license was issued. I don't think so. Perhaps if you used Microsoft Virtual PC? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here some informations on how the Dell inspiron 640m is configured: john at mobildev:~$ uname -r 2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ more /etc/xen/ [...] #(network-script network-dummy) (network-script network-bridge) [...] (vif-script vif-bridge) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ more /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback #auto eth0 #iface eth0 inet dhcp #config Xen auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp auto ath0 iface ath0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ more /etc/xen/edgy-guest.cfg kernel = "/boot/xen0-linux-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0" ramdisk = "/boot/xen0-linux-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0.initrd.img" builder='linux' memory = 128 name = "edgy-guest" vcpus = 1 vif = [ 'bridge=xenbr0' ] disk = [ 'phy:/dev/vgGuest/lv1,hda1,w' ] root = "/dev/hda1 ro" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ ifconfig Password: lo Lien encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 Packets reçus:2 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 Octets reçus:100 (100.0 b) Octets transmis:100 (100.0 b) vif1.0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF adr inet6: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Lien UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 Packets reçus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 Octets reçus:0 (0.0 b) Octets transmis:0 (0.0 b) xenbr0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF adr inet6: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Lien UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 Packets reçus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 Octets reçus:0 (0.0 b) Octets transmis:0 (0.0 b) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ sudo ifup eth0 Password: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Failed to bring up eth0. I have tried to modify iftab, without any success. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john at mobildev:~$ more /etc/iftab #eth0 mac 00:15:c5:72:b8:69 arp 1 eth1 mac 00:18:de:e2:b8:05 arp 1 Finally, I've also tried to remove --purge the network-manager (and his gnome orchestra). ;) But the problem still alive. Did I miss something ? Is it launchpad time ? Thanks for any help, advice or suggestion. Freely, John. From psalmos at swissinfo.org Sat Feb 24 00:52:59 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:52:59 +1000 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> Message-ID: <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:23 +0100 Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > note: some applications doesn't appear in the menu because either > they intended to be somewhere else or they're badly packaged. Intended to be somewhere else? Where? And although I can somewhat accept that they are badly packaged, why these same applications were present on the Applications menu in Dapper? (e.g. Tomboy, Alacarte to name just two) I'm beginning to regret this upgrade. Why on earth did I ditch a perfectly working system, i.e. Dapper? :-) It seems to me Dapper will remain the only fully working system for a long time (hence its name :-) Nikolai From jim at oz.net Sat Feb 24 01:18:21 2007 From: jim at oz.net (Jim Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:18:21 -0800 Subject: Wireless help In-Reply-To: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45DF925D.8070203@oz.net> stoakley lloyd wrote: > I'm getting ready to set up my new (home built) desktop on my > wireless. this is my first time using Ubuntu and I'm wondering what > kind card I should get. Does anyone have a recommendation that will > minimize driver issues. my router is a Dlink di-614+. > > Srl51676 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers > . > Try it now. I use a DLink WBC-2320 in a friends computer. Ubuntu Dapper recognises it as ath1 Your mileage may vary. Jim From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Feb 24 01:13:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:13:52 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> I admit I'm not [a lawyer], but my reading of Canadian law tells me I'm >> very >> well within my rights to use an OEM licensed version of Windows on the >> same hardware for which that license was issued. > > I don't think so. Perhaps if you used Microsoft Virtual PC? No, that would satisfy Microsoft, but Canadian law doesn't have the same sorts of restrictions that US law has (as the RIAA and others have been complaining). We don't have legal support for DRM, and we have _explicit_ rights to copy audio and video recordings (that we own) for our personal use. While I don't know of case law to back up the use of software in a situation like this, it's certainly analogous and I feel on very safe ground to assume I'd win if MS wanted to try to take me to a Canadian court. After all, I haven't made more copies of the software than MS's EULA tells me I can make AND I'm running it on exactly the same hardware. -- derek From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sat Feb 24 01:45:36 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:45:36 -0600 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <20070223194536.48d08ccd@WizardsTower> Scott Kitterman said: > On Friday 23 February 2007 10:49, David B Teague wrote: > > > Unfortunately, spamming software is able spoof a different > > originating address for each batch of email they send. > ... > > > I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the > > whitelist. > > Please don't do this. You obviously know that the addresses in the > spam are forged. If you send challenges for these kinds of messages, > then you are spamming innocent bystanders. > > Scott K > In addition to that you will be confirming your email is live. Bad idea. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat Feb 24 01:53:39 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:53:39 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <20070223194536.48d08ccd@WizardsTower> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <20070223194536.48d08ccd@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <200702232053.39348.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Friday 23 February 2007 20:45, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Scott Kitterman said: > > On Friday 23 February 2007 10:49, David B Teague wrote: > > > Unfortunately, spamming software is able spoof a different > > > originating address for each batch of email they send. > > > > ... > > > > > I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the > > > whitelist. > > > > Please don't do this. You obviously know that the addresses in the > > spam are forged. If you send challenges for these kinds of messages, > > then you are spamming innocent bystanders. > > > > Scott K > > In addition to that you will be confirming your email is live. Bad > idea. > Um, no. Challenge goes back to the forged e-mail address. The only one that knows your 'email is live' is the innocent bystander you just inconvenienced. They may, perhaps, tell spamcop and then your mail server ends up on their RBL and your mail server operator is NOT happy with you at all. C/R is not only evil it can have negative consequences for those that choose to use it. Scott K From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 02:36:25 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:36:25 -0500 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? Message-ID: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I was trying to figure out what package on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS box provided a certain file. In YellowDogLinux (FC-based distro) I've always used: yum provides insertfilenamehere And yum (yellowdog updater modified) spits out the package to which that file belongs. I've scoured the man pages for apt-* (including aptitude) without success. It seems the search functionality in apt-get is limited, poorly documented or both. I used Synaptic successfully, but the only reason it found the package is that the file name was actually part of the package description. 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for packages (like yum find xyz)? aptitude can do it but I really don't like its interface (its user interface could handle a major overhaul -- the irony is that it's designed so people don't have to fiddle with apt-get but it's designed for people who read man pages and memorise commands ;-)... exactly the crowd who don't need something like aptitude ;-P) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 24 02:39:20 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:39:20 -0500 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DFA558.6090809@gatech.edu> Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi all, I was trying to figure out what package on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS > box provided a certain file. > > In YellowDogLinux (FC-based distro) I've always used: > > yum provides insertfilenamehere > > And yum (yellowdog updater modified) spits out the package to which > that file belongs. > > I've scoured the man pages for apt-* (including aptitude) without > success. It seems the search functionality in apt-get is limited, > poorly documented or both. The latter. > I used Synaptic successfully, but the only reason it found the package > is that the file name was actually part of the package description. > > 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? No, but I know it's possible.,, > 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for > packages (like yum find xyz)? apt-cache search xyz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 03:18:11 2007 From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:18:11 -0500 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> Message-ID: <351278b80702231918m1fcecf59sc2378c37d7b28b3b@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/07, Nikolai wrote: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:23 +0100 > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > > > note: some applications doesn't appear in the menu because either > > they intended to be somewhere else or they're badly packaged. > > > Intended to be somewhere else? Where? > And although I can somewhat accept that they are badly packaged, why > these same applications were present on the Applications menu in > Dapper? (e.g. Tomboy, Alacarte to name just two) I'm beginning to > regret this upgrade. Why on earth did I ditch a perfectly working > system, i.e. Dapper? :-) It seems to me Dapper will remain the only > fully working system for a long time (hence its name :-) Tomboy at least has changed from a stand-alone application to a panel applet, and so is added to your panel rather than run separately. Try right-clicking on your panel, selecting "add to panel", then dragging the tomboy icon to the place you'd like it to show up. It will stay there every time you log in. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 04:05:28 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:05:28 +0800 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > Hi all, I was trying to figure out what package on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS > box provided a certain file. > Hi Eric, There is a program called 'apt-file' that search for a particular files or patterns on the packages. At first use you need to apt-get update, then run apt-file update to download the contents.tar.gz (around 20MB) file in the ubuntu repository. then do (i.e. apt-file search gtk.h) Hope this helps Joel -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 04:24:22 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:24:22 -0500 Subject: hardware advice (mother board) In-Reply-To: <200702232044.08487.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> References: <200702232044.08487.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Message-ID: <1172291062.27023.3.camel@ubuntu> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:44 +0100, Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi, > I bought an ASUS P5B-E mother board. > It was awsome: > > - NIC problems (solved, but only in development version now) > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/81412 > > - IDE problems (solved, but only in development version now) > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502 > > - PAE problems > http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+asus+memory+remap > > I have 4G RAM and a Core 2 Duo E660CPU and nVidia 7xxx graohic card (I dont > need the features brought by the proprietary drivers) > What motherbord of the moment would work on it? > I need to buy one motherboard quickly so that saturday night or sunday morning > the box is up and running. And the 4G RAM need to be all used, and network > up. > > Thank you. > I have an ASUS P1-AH2 and an nVidia card, nVidia & ASUS, they work well together. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 04:33:39 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:33:39 -0500 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> Message-ID: <20070223233339.28842837@chisel> Nikolai wrote: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:23 +0100 > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > > > note: some applications doesn't appear in the menu because either > > they intended to be somewhere else or they're badly packaged. > > > Intended to be somewhere else? Where? > And although I can somewhat accept that they are badly packaged, why > these same applications were present on the Applications menu in > Dapper? (e.g. Tomboy, Alacarte to name just two) I'm beginning to Both those applications are available as menu selections in Edgy. Tomboy is now a panel applet and needs to be accessed through your panel contest menu (right click on a panel). Alacarte is on the System > Preferences menu as "Menu Layout". Neither of these changes really has anything to do with Edgy. They are simply how the latest versions of third party programs are named named and/or designed. The only way to include them in a form you're familiar with would be to package outdated software with Edgy. In the case of Alacarte at least, that would have been an outdated version of Gnome itself. Tomboy may fall under that umbrella also, I'm not sure. > regret this upgrade. Why on earth did I ditch a perfectly working > system, i.e. Dapper? :-) It seems to me Dapper will remain the only > fully working system for a long time (hence its name :-) I think you're over reacting, or at the very least directing your dissatisfaction at a completely innocent target. Even if this were an "Edgy problem" you willingly installed an updated version of Ubuntu. To not expect some cosmetic changes between completely different releases of an entire operating system package is a bit unreasonable. Wouldn't you agree? :) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bloss wrote: > > The enigma wrote: > > > > > Speaking of which, I'm using Evolution 2.8.1 and I would like to > > > know how to set it up to automatically fetch email from two or > > > more accounts? > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts... then for each account you > > do a Edit -> Receiving Options and check the box next to > > "Automatically...". > > > > Or doesn't this work? > > > > If that's the case then apparently Evolution needs to be in an > > account's "mode" to check that accounts mail. I'd call that broken, > > but you could always set up a single account in Evolution that used > > a local mailbox, and set up Fetchmail to collect all the various > > outside email and put it there. > > > > I had that option set for both accounts. I just unchecked/rechecked > the option, and now it works...strange. If you were to ask me, I 'd say most of what Evolution does is a little "strange". But you didn't, and it would be just one person's opinion anyway. ;O) Maybe the setting is stored in multiple locations that for some reason got out of sync, and turning things off and on like you did fixed that. Just a wild guess... -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 24 05:06:51 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:06:51 -0500 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172293611.8046.1.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 21:36 -0500, Eric Dunbar wrote: > Hi all, I was trying to figure out what package on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS > box provided a certain file. > > In YellowDogLinux (FC-based distro) I've always used: > > yum provides insertfilenamehere > > And yum (yellowdog updater modified) spits out the package to which > that file belongs. > > I've scoured the man pages for apt-* (including aptitude) without > success. It seems the search functionality in apt-get is limited, > poorly documented or both. > > I used Synaptic successfully, but the only reason it found the package > is that the file name was actually part of the package description. > > 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? dpkg -L That will give you the list of files for a given (installed) package dpkg -S That will give you the package that provides a given (installed) file > 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for > packages (like yum find xyz)? aptitude can do it but I really don't > like its interface (its user interface could handle a major overhaul > -- the irony is that it's designed so people don't have to fiddle with > apt-get but it's designed for people who read man pages and memorise > commands ;-)... exactly the crowd who don't need something like > aptitude ;-P) I tend to use http://packages.ubuntu.com but others have suggested apt-cache which will work without a browser. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bad > > idea. > > > Um, no. > > Challenge goes back to the forged e-mail address. The only one that > knows your 'email is live' is the innocent bystander you just > inconvenienced. They may, perhaps, tell spamcop and then your mail > server ends up on their RBL and your mail server operator is NOT > happy with you at all. Not all spam is from forged addresses. I goodly and growing amount comes from compromised machines or cheap, transient accounts in places that are let's say... more "tolerant" of spammers. ;) The typical scenario is millions of randomly generated destinations with valid TLD's in the To: header and working return addresses, not just intended as broadcasts but also as "probes" to see if there's any response at all from any of those random addresses. Bounces are of course simply dropped on the floor. Any address that doesn't bounce within a certain period of time is considered "alive", and anything with an auto-responder on it is *obviously* alive. Those responsive addresses will invariably attract even more spam regardless of whether the reply was a C/R attempt or some "out of the office 'till Monday" silliness. I doubt a distinction is made. The address is deemed "useful", sold or further abused, and even if you never see a single piece of junk mail yourself that address has become a problem for everyone else, including the owners of the addresses which are forged onto "normal" spam runs. Thus making the evilness of C/R just that much *more* evil, IOW. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 24 05:17:26 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:17:26 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> Message-ID: <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 10:57 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > > In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have > to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but > to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a > Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95... for a couple > reasons that have to do with Microsoft's EULA changes starting with > Windows 98. I don't think I buy this argument (without a snippet of a EULA from some third party software that explicitly states that it is required to run on Windows). Certainly the any warranties and guarantees (which were shaky in the first place) go out the window (so to speak) when running on a non-Microsoft version of Windows, but simply specifying on the box that a program requires (or, more to the point _specifies_) windows doesn't strike me as having any legal force requiring a Microsoft implementation of that specification/requirement. Even if the EULA of a third party piece of software claims that it requires Windows, I'd still not be totally convinced as EULAs are notoriously weak. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 24 05:22:55 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:22:55 -0500 Subject: Wireless help In-Reply-To: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <143709.66193.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1172294575.8046.11.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 22:17 -0800, stoakley lloyd wrote: > I'm getting ready to set up my new (home built) desktop on my > wireless. this is my first time using Ubuntu and I'm wondering what > kind card I should get. Does anyone have a recommendation that will > minimize driver issues. my router is a Dlink di-614+. This may or may not help your situaion, but MurrayC blogged about several USB wireless cards: http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2007/02/17/linux-compatible-wireless-usb-adaptor-results/ > Srl51676 > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 06:23:52 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:23:52 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070224012352.3d4148cb@chisel> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 10:57 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > Derek Broughton wrote: > > > > In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > > requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > > implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even > > have to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic > > came up), but to run almost any Windows software legally requires > > ownership of a Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows > > 95... for a couple reasons that have to do with Microsoft's EULA > > changes starting with Windows 98. > > I don't think I buy this argument (without a snippet of a EULA from > some third party software that explicitly states that it is required > to run on Windows). The requirement itself is plain and obvious, starting with the box the software comes in or the "requirements" section of any online counterpart to physical packaging. The EULA reference has more to do with "one machine, one copy" philosophy which precludes a single license from being "shared". > Certainly the any warranties and guarantees > (which were shaky in the first place) go out the window (so to speak) Absolutely. The entire industry is built on the tenuous premise of offering tangible support for, and applying tangible rules to, an intangible product. That leads to all sorts of strangeness. > when running on a non-Microsoft version of Windows, but simply There are no non-Microsoft versions of Windows. There is only one product named "Windows", and it belongs to Microsoft. If you doubt that you're free to create your own custom Linux distribution for example, and give it that moniker. ;) The thing is, even if you got away with using "Windows" or found some previously unknown software of that name put out by ACME Software, the packaging and requirements in question always call out some specific version information, almost always include the word "Microsoft", and usually have a copy of the stupid "flying window" logo or whatever Microsoft is using these days. To suggest that "Windows software" doesn't technically require a Microsoft licensed product is a bit of a stretch to say the least in my opinion. > specifying on the box that a program requires (or, more to the point > _specifies_) windows doesn't strike me as having any legal force > requiring a Microsoft implementation of that > specification/requirement. > > Even if the EULA of a third party piece of software claims that it > requires Windows, I'd still not be totally convinced as EULAs are > notoriously weak. > Another matter entirely. As one of my legal pals also also said... "Jeff, I agree with you but in the end it all boils down to whether or not you can convince a jury you're right and the other guy is wrong". That particular statement was made during a conversation regarding firearms in schools after a teacher at a school function very close to where I use to live "subdued" an armed student with his own weapon. Famous Western Pennsylvania incident. You may have heard about it. I knew the teacher in question casually. He was never charged with any crime although many people thought he had broken the law. It's a common misconception that "school zone" gun legislation prohibits firearms, specifically handguns, on school property. In fact almost every one of these laws is written to say "weapon" to cover things like knives and "dual use" items like tire irons and baseball bats when they're used offensively. They also invariably include exemptions for school sanctioned shooting sports and... "other lawful purposes". Typically in those exact words. By definition self defense is a "lawful purpose" for carrying a concealed handgun. In many places it's the *only* lawful purpose. That technically makes packin' heat in a school "legal" in most US States at least, and probably any other jurisdiction that has a registration or licensing process for concealed carry and similar restrictions. Thus the "no guns allowed in school" notion crumbles. As long as you can convince 12 people your logic is flawless that is. ;-) All of which has absolutely nothing at all to do with software law except this... 99% of what's being discussed revolves around intent and presumption, which obviously weighs heavily in favor of Microsoft no matter how you or I feel about it, or how many pick-able nits we come up with. Simple facts are... there's only one "Windows", Windows software *obviously* requires it, and trying to convince 12 people otherwise would likely be even more pointless than trying to convince the same 12 people that a gun found in your pocket at school was perfectly legal. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Feb 24 08:11:01 2007 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:11:01 -0600 Subject: Webmin on Dapper In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702232321u2307bd43oc19663d681653217@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> <509d63b70702230104j768179ceu2e5b9d0b81f3d504@mail.gmail.com> <45DEB2B9.4060105@fahrlander.net> <45DEC763.7020909@gatech.edu> <78d24f7a0702230257w285c21c1y4e81ad39391407a@mail.gmail.com> <509d63b70702232321u2307bd43oc19663d681653217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DFF315.7050502@fahrlander.net> Charles Yao wrote: > > Any guides on how I can do this manually? The Wiki has all this; start up Firefox, select the "Community" link in the text. Everthing about Ubuntu is found there, and anything it doesn't we talk about here. The short answer is "dpkg -i filename.deb" From dlithgow at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 08:51:20 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:51:20 +0100 Subject: CPU scaling on Intel Centrino Duo? Message-ID: <1172307080.9005.2.camel@duncan-laptop> I've been wondering about this for a while... I maintain a laptop test for my laptop (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP_Pavilion_DV8220EA) but I've never been able to find out just what range of CPU scaling my processor _should_ support. It's always got some scaling, but I don't know if that's the right amount - can someone help me? Duncan From tuxebi at gmx.de Sat Feb 24 09:08:50 2007 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:08:50 +0100 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> I admit I'm not [a lawyer], but my reading of Canadian law tells me I'm >>> very >>> well within my rights to use an OEM licensed version of Windows on the >>> same hardware for which that license was issued. >> I don't think so. Perhaps if you used Microsoft Virtual PC? > > No, that would satisfy Microsoft, but Canadian law doesn't have the same > sorts of restrictions that US law has (as the RIAA and others have been > complaining). We don't have legal support for DRM, and we have _explicit_ > rights to copy audio and video recordings (that we own) for our personal > use. While I don't know of case law to back up the use of software in a > situation like this, it's certainly analogous and I feel on very safe > ground to assume I'd win if MS wanted to try to take me to a Canadian > court. After all, I haven't made more copies of the software than MS's > EULA tells me I can make AND I'm running it on exactly the same hardware. Well, then you may try to call MS and let them reactivate your windows installation. I did this with a winXP home that came with my computer and now runs on top of Linux in VMware. I did not have a problem with explaining to the microsoft hotline that I "slightly downgraded" my existing hardware and that the system now cries for activation, once again. But well, this was/is in Germany and I do not know how they handle this elsewhere. Although worth to note: Vista as a Guest on virtualization software and the related license implications ex. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/02/01/virtualvista/index.php?lsrc=mwtoprss regards Eberhard From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:38:47 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:38:47 +0100 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> Message-ID: Nikolai a écrit : > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:37:23 +0100 > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > >> note: some applications doesn't appear in the menu because either >> they intended to be somewhere else or they're badly packaged. > > > Intended to be somewhere else? Where? Two members answered about why tomboy is not there anymore. You can also thing about non gui applications . You will be very upset to see in feisty that System-> preferences ans System-> administration do not exist anymore :) . From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:51:49 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:51:49 +0100 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric Dunbar a écrit : > 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? # Set up apt-file apt-get intall apt-file apt-file update # Search for my_file apt-file search my_file > 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for > packages (like yum find xyz)? aptitude can do it but I really don't > like its interface (its user interface could handle a major overhaul > -- the irony is that it's designed so people don't have to fiddle with > apt-get but it's designed for people who read man pages and memorise > commands ;-)... exactly the crowd who don't need something like > aptitude ;-P) > apt-cache search regex From rkimber at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 24 10:00:01 2007 From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:00:01 +0000 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> Message-ID: <20070224100001.2822f0cf.rkimber@ntlworld.com> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:38:47 +0100 Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Two members answered about why tomboy is not there anymore. You can > also thing about non gui applications . You will be very upset to see > in feisty that System-> preferences ans System-> administration do > not exist anymore :) . Yes, it seems to be becoming like Windows, with a control panel. I personally don't mind, so long as it loads and performs as quickly as the menu system. I haven't tested this. - Richard -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ From dimitri.mallis at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 10:55:11 2007 From: dimitri.mallis at gmail.com (Dimitri Mallis) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:55:11 +0200 Subject: what is the best program to do screen casting in? Message-ID: hi, i am currently using istanbul to do screen casting in, but all the videos i have seen on google video or youtube are usign something else. istanbul makes a very jumpy video because its max frames is 10. thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I haven't tested this. > > - Richard You know what ? you got the point it's not as fast as the system menu. But this is the endless war between design and performance. From dimitri.mallis at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 11:18:40 2007 From: dimitri.mallis at gmail.com (Dimitri Mallis) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:18:40 +0200 Subject: what is the best program to do screen casting in? In-Reply-To: <45E01AF8.3080606@gmx.de> References: <45E01AF8.3080606@gmx.de> Message-ID: thanks i will try this -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Sat Feb 24 11:30:55 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:30:55 -0600 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> Message-ID: <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have > to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but > to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a > Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95. So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a requirement and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? 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Name: davin.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 211 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Feb 24 11:51:51 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:51:51 +0000 Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Webmin on Dapper In-Reply-To: <509d63b70702232321u2307bd43oc19663d681653217@mail.gmail.com> References: <509d63b70702222355y4f82cb3bi5dea06ed4598afdd@mail.gmail.com> <45DEA18E.2080802@gatech.edu> <509d63b70702230104j768179ceu2e5b9d0b81f3d504@mail.gmail.com> <45DEB2B9.4060105@fahrlander.net> <45DEC763.7020909@gatech.edu> <78d24f7a0702230257w285c21c1y4e81ad39391407a@mail.gmail.com> <509d63b70702232321u2307bd43oc19663d681653217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E026D7.1020407@yandex.ru> Charles Yao wrote: > "It is unwise to pay to much, but it is worse to pay too little; you > sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of > doing the thing it was bought to do" > Best check out the Sales of Goods Act 1979 if in the UK :P From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Feb 24 12:02:02 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:02:02 +0000 Subject: Just been testing that new Feisty Message-ID: <45E0293A.4040402@yandex.ru> Sweet!! I'm thinking that Feisty will be what Edgy should have been. OpenOffice 2.1 is very welcome here. That new Control Panel in Feisty rocks!!! Although I'll admit my heart sank with dread when I saw "Common Tasks" listed on the left hand side. Minor over-sight there :) Keep up the great work Ubuntu devs :) :) From ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi Sat Feb 24 12:10:21 2007 From: ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi (Ari Torhamo) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:10:21 +0200 Subject: 1 checksum keeps failing with feisty-desktop-i386 21022007 In-Reply-To: <45DF79C8.6090905@gatech.edu> References: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> <1172264942.7626.15.camel@localhost> <45DF79C8.6090905@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172319021.5697.30.camel@ari-desktop> On pe, 2007-02-23 at 18:33 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Ari Torhamo wrote: > >> I just downloaded and burned feisty-desktop-i386.iso of 21.7. I keep > >> getting one checksum fail when I check the disk no matter what I do. I > >> have downloaded the file three times and burned it to two different > >> disks (from different manufacturers). Could it be that the file is > >> corrupt? I have downloaded and burned feisty twice before this without > >> problems. Actually, to my remembering, I have never had a checksum > >> problem with any of my ubuntu disks before. > >> > >> Is anyone else having problems with this file? In the meantime I might > >> give herd 4 a try to have something to move on with. > > > > You can mount the ISO itself before burning and check the checksums. > > > > $ mkdir iso > > $ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso iso > > $ cd iso > > $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt > > ... > > lots of output > > ... > > > > If everything's OK, then the ISO is fine, and the problem may lie with > > the burner or media. > > If you want to check the iso before burning, just run md5sum on it: > > md5sum ubuntu-7.04-whatever.iso > > , then compare to the appropriate md5sum at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes . There's no need to > mount it. I didn't come to my mind to check the checksums of the ISO. However, I already downloaded Herd 4, burned and checked it without any errors (I was installing Ubuntu for someone else and it was late, so I had to move on). This makes me think that there indeed might be something wrong with the original daily 21.2.2007 ISO image from cdimage.ubuntu.com. Remember, I used: 1. Two different machines to download the ISO 2. Two different burners to burn the disk 3. Burned it onto two different disks 4. I downloaded it alltogether three times and burned five times 5. Downloading Herd 4 and burning it was immediately succesfull - no checksum errors I was going to download the problematic ISO once more and now test it directly, but I just noticed that the file has already been replaced by a newer one on the server. Thanks for advice Michael and Matthew. Ari Torhamo From psalmos at swissinfo.org Sat Feb 24 13:08:11 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:08:11 +1000 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070223233339.28842837@chisel> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> <20070223233339.28842837@chisel> Message-ID: <20070224230811.0f2446df@picasso> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:33:39 -0500 "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > I think you're over reacting, or at the very least directing your > dissatisfaction at a completely innocent target. Even if this were an > "Edgy problem" you willingly installed an updated version of Ubuntu. > To not expect some cosmetic changes between completely different > releases of an entire operating system package is a bit unreasonable. > Wouldn't you agree? :) Yes, you're right, I have overreacted. There were other, untold issues as well, the Applications menu was just the last straw :-) At any rate, I'm back to Dapper, this thing works like a dream on my machine. Thanks for all the help though. Nikolai From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 13:57:08 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:57:08 -0500 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702240557tc7b7fe8l92921707a7b9b6c5@mail.gmail.com> On 24/02/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Eric Dunbar a écrit : > > 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? > > # Set up apt-file > apt-get intall apt-file > apt-file update > > # Search for my_file > apt-file search my_file > > > 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for > > packages (like yum find xyz)? aptitude can do it but I really don't > > like its interface (its user interface could handle a major overhaul > > -- the irony is that it's designed so people don't have to fiddle with > > apt-get but it's designed for people who read man pages and memorise > > commands ;-)... exactly the crowd who don't need something like > > aptitude ;-P) > > > > apt-cache search regex Thanks to all who replied. This is exactly what I was looking for (and, hopefully someone else who's looking for the same info in the future will stumble on this thread). Eric. From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sat Feb 24 14:40:00 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:40:00 +0100 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> <20070224100001.2822f0cf.rkimber@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20070224154000.20942cba.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > You know what ? you got the point it's not as fast as the system menu. > But this is the endless war between design and performance. Yes, I am not opposed in principle to a control panel, however in its current state, I find it a huge regression in the usability department... it just drives me nuts. Luckily, it takes only 5 seconds to get rid of it and resurrect the old Preferences & Administration menus, thanks to the handy menu editor... :o) -- Vince From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sat Feb 24 14:45:48 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:45:48 -0600 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <200702232053.39348.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231059.20887.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <20070223194536.48d08ccd@WizardsTower> <200702232053.39348.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <20070224084548.40b6884e@WizardsTower> Scott Kitterman said: > Um, no. > > Challenge goes back to the forged e-mail address. The only one that > knows your 'email is live' is the innocent bystander you just > inconvenienced. Yes, most 'real' spammers use forged eddresses. Then again, there are still the new fellows who think the net is a get-rich-quick path and send out their pyramid schemes to all and sundry. May I say, "AOLers?" For them, at least, C/R /is/ validation of eddresses. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sat Feb 24 14:50:07 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:50:07 -0600 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20070224085007.1b932fd5@WizardsTower> David B Teague said: > Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > > > > > > > P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) > > > Benni > > Curious.I understand why you don't care for HTML mail. It can make a > mess on some mail readers, but I checked the source of email messages > I sent as received from the list; there is no HTML in any email I > have sent. Is there html content in messages you received from me > through the list? > > Warmest Regards > David Teague > I think Benni was replying to The enigma and your post snippet was included without intent. The enigma /has/ been sending HTMaiL. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 14:52:51 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:52:51 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> Message-ID: <1172328771.6254.18.camel@ubuntu> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:20 -0500, Scott Sweeny wrote: > > What's up, Scott. > > > > I wasn't on the web at all. I happened to be using Mozilla Sunbird > > calendar. I don't know if that had anything to do with that message box from > > Netscape, or not. I wasn't directly trying to access the web. Really weird! > > It's almost like they wanted to setup a file of some kind, on my machine to > > send them error logs. (???) > > -- > > Rick D. > > Hey Rick, > A couple more questions: > 1. Was Sunbird by any chance crashing or producing an error that you know of? > 2. Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on > that machine? > > This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog > pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could > help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. > > ~Scott > Scott, You know, it's funny, there where no problems with Sunbird, I just installed it and was playing with it's different calendar views, printing each one as I changed them, when all of a sudden, this Netscape dialog box pops up, ensuring my security, and if I'd like to participate in some kind of error log sharing process. I could do everything, so Linux didn't seem to crash but I couldn't print! I tried to click the "x" to close the dialog box, however, it wouldn't close, I logged off/on again and it popped up a few minutes later. I had to choose their "next" button and choose "do not subscribe at this time" to close it down. It was almost like a Windows spyware thing. I've never used any Netscape product on my Linux box. It must have piggy backed on the Mozilla Sunbird download package, Linux version. I've been working with computers at various stages for about 20 years, but I'm new to Linux. I'm slowly moving to Linux from Windows because of things like this. (and many others) -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From slewin at rogers.com Sat Feb 24 14:56:34 2007 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:56:34 -0500 Subject: Problems with Treo 700P Message-ID: <45E05222.1060601@rogers.com> Hi, I have my Treo 700P now and it will not work at all with Feisty and only works basically with Edgy. I first tried it on my laptop running feisty. It would not connect using either Kpilot or Jpilot. The system did not even detect the palm, so, I am pretty sure, for the moment, that Feisty can not be used with Palms, or, at least, the Treo. I tried checking /dev/pilot and there was nothing there. I'm going to submit this as a bug report when I have time. Then I tried Edgy on my desktop and it did show up at /dev/pilot. First I tried Kpilot and, at first, it seemed to work perfectly. In its wizard it was able to quickly find the Palm's name and basic info, but, when I tried to do a sync it would just give the error "can not read palm system information" and then Kpilot would freeze forcing me to kill it. I tried going into the options and uncheck things as this worked with my Tungsten (including unchecking checking system information), but this did not work with the Treo. It would just go to 10% and freeze the program. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I would love to use Kpilot. Next, I tried Jpilot which had a better time with the device. Doing the little 3 second trick I read about worked with the Treo and I am able to do a basic sync and able to upload files to the palm, but I can't find how to send files to the SD card with Jpilot, any advice on this would be very nice. I also noticed that Plucker does not work either, which is a big problem as I really like that program. It will not sync with the palm, so I can not send the plucker program or the html files to the palm. If anyone haves had success with Plucker on Edgy, please help me out. As it stands now, I am going to be forced to use windows for the majority of my Palm experience. I will need to use it to transfer files to my SD card, to use plucker, documents to go, adobe reader, and others. I'm trying to use windows less, so any help on doing more things in Linux (especially things that are online like plucker) with my Palm Treo 700P would be great. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 14:58:42 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:58:42 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: <45DF7A89.9030400@gatech.edu> References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> <45DF7A89.9030400@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172329122.6254.23.camel@ubuntu> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 18:36 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Scott Sweeny wrote: > >> What's up, Scott. > >> > >> I wasn't on the web at all. I happened to be using Mozilla Sunbird > >> calendar. I don't know if that had anything to do with that message box from > >> Netscape, or not. I wasn't directly trying to access the web. Really weird! > >> It's almost like they wanted to setup a file of some kind, on my machine to > >> send them error logs. (???) > >> -- > >> Rick D. > > > > Hey Rick, > > A couple more questions: > > 1. Was Sunbird by any chance crashing or producing an error that you know of? > > 2. Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on > > that machine? > > > > This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog > > pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could > > help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. > > Mozilla is of course based on Netscape, and it has a Talkback crash > reporting system. I've never had it come up on Sunbird, but it's > possible that Sunbird does have it, and they forgot to take out some > mention of Netscape. > > Matthew Flaschen > Matthew, Yeah Mozilla is based on Netscape, that's probably where that came from. There wasn't any crash on my system, thought. I just didn't like not being able to close out of it with out having to respond to it, even though I chose "no", know what I mean? -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 15:01:19 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:01:19 +0100 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224154000.20942cba.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> <20070224100001.2822f0cf.rkimber@ntlworld.com> <20070224154000.20942cba.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Vincent Trouilliez a écrit : > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> You know what ? you got the point it's not as fast as the system menu. >> But this is the endless war between design and performance. > > Yes, I am not opposed in principle to a control panel, however in its > current state, I find it a huge regression in the usability > department... it just drives me nuts. > Luckily, it takes only 5 seconds to get rid of it and resurrect the > old Preferences & Administration menus, thanks to the handy menu > editor... :o) > > -- > Vince > LOL :) From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 15:04:59 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:04:59 -0500 Subject: Monitor Crash In-Reply-To: <45E0262F.3050800@nerdshack.com> References: <45E0262F.3050800@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <1172329499.6254.30.camel@ubuntu> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 12:49 +0100, Davin Terrizzi wrote: > Hi, At least once a day my monitor loses signal "No Signal Input blue > box on monitor hardware error", This usually happens when Opera is open. > My drivers are correctly installed (3D/OpenGL works using nvidia-glx) > I'm running Dapper on a x86 Compaq Presario SR Desktop PC. I tried to '# > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and manually edit the > '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' but everything seems alright. I think this is a > hardware failure (nVidia GeForce 6200SE 256MB PCI-e) or it may be Opera. > > Please enlighten me. > > -Davin Does this happen, when you start Opera, of a few minutes/seconds after? -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 15:11:07 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:11:07 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <20070224085007.1b932fd5@WizardsTower> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> <20070224085007.1b932fd5@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <1172329867.6254.33.camel@ubuntu> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 08:50 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > David B Teague said: > > Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S.: Please get rid of writing HTML mails ;) > > > > > Benni > > > > Curious.I understand why you don't care for HTML mail. It can make a > > mess on some mail readers, but I checked the source of email messages > > I sent as received from the list; there is no HTML in any email I > > have sent. Is there html content in messages you received from me > > through the list? > > > > Warmest Regards > > David Teague > > > I think Benni was replying to The enigma and your post snippet was > included without intent. The enigma /has/ been sending HTMaiL. > > Cybe R. Wizard > -- > Nice computers don't go down. > Larry Niven, Steven Barnes > "The Barsoom Project" Has this stopped, the HTMl emails from me? I so, I think I know where it was coming from. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From mback99 at glocalnet.net Sat Feb 24 15:12:54 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:12:54 +0100 Subject: Web radio Message-ID: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any help... From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sat Feb 24 15:38:53 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:38:53 -0600 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <1172329867.6254.33.camel@ubuntu> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> <20070224085007.1b932fd5@WizardsTower> <1172329867.6254.33.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <20070224093853.6d56d43d@WizardsTower> The enigma said: > Has this stopped, the HTMl emails from me? I so, I think I know where > it was coming from. Yep, and thanks! Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From davin at nerdshack.com Sat Feb 24 15:51:55 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:51:55 +0100 Subject: Monitor Crash In-Reply-To: <1172329499.6254.30.camel@ubuntu> References: <45E0262F.3050800@nerdshack.com> <1172329499.6254.30.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <45E05F1B.9050002@nerdshack.com> The enigma wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 12:49 +0100, Davin Terrizzi wrote: > >> Hi, At least once a day my monitor loses signal "No Signal Input blue >> box on monitor hardware error", This usually happens when Opera is open. >> My drivers are correctly installed (3D/OpenGL works using nvidia-glx) >> I'm running Dapper on a x86 Compaq Presario SR Desktop PC. I tried to '# >> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and manually edit the >> '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' but everything seems alright. I think this is a >> hardware failure (nVidia GeForce 6200SE 256MB PCI-e) or it may be Opera. >> >> Please enlighten me. >> >> -Davin >> > > Does this happen, when you start Opera, of a few minutes/seconds after? > Hi. This happens randomly when Opera is running. Like browsing a page all of a sudden. By the way I've been using Epiphany all day, and my PC hasn't crashed. I think its a problem in Opera or the combo of Opera and my GPU that kills it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: davin.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 211 bytes Desc: not available URL: From davin at nerdshack.com Sat Feb 24 15:53:04 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:53:04 +0100 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any > help... > > > Hello Mikael. You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a few. Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? -Davin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: davin.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 211 bytes Desc: not available URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Sat Feb 24 15:59:55 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:59:55 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <20070224093853.6d56d43d@WizardsTower> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <200702231554.51330.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF0604.1040304@rick-net.com> <200702231645.31922.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <45DF2CB3.6030204@verizon.net> <20070224085007.1b932fd5@WizardsTower> <1172329867.6254.33.camel@ubuntu> <20070224093853.6d56d43d@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <1172332795.6254.43.camel@ubuntu> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 09:38 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > The enigma said: > > Has this stopped, the HTMl emails from me? I so, I think I know where > > it was coming from. > > Yep, and thanks! > > Cybe R. Wizard > -- > Nice computers don't go down. > Larry Niven, Steven Barnes > "The Barsoom Project" > Sorry for the HTML messages. I have two machines, I built a Windows machine and a Linux machine. Both are hooked with a KVM switch, and both receives my emails from both my account's, in this case , my rick-net account. I've sent emails from my Winxp machine by mistake, that's where you got the HTML emails. -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From mback99 at glocalnet.net Sat Feb 24 16:01:31 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:01:31 +0100 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> lör 2007-02-24 klockan 16:53 +0100 skrev Davin Terrizzi: > Mikael Backman wrote: > > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any > > help... > > > > > > > Hello Mikael. > You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio > Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a few. > Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? > > -Davin I tried to do it the usual way (like in windows) Start firefox. Go to www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it cant play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have installed the wincodecs-package.. From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 16:12:22 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:12:22 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > > requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > > implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even > > have to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic > > came up), but to run almost any Windows software legally requires > > ownership of a Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows > > 95. > > So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a requirement > and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? Of course not. The two requirements have almost nothing in common. "512MB minimum RAM" not being a recognizable trademark for one. If they specifically called out Kingston memory, perhaps... OTOH, if you call XYZ Comapny and tell them you're running their software in 256MB they have every right to effectively disown that installation and any attached warranty or support agreement, implied or otherwise. Which goes to the "no Windows license = illegal" side by spotlighting another way in which these requirements *do* have some legal weight weight to them. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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I have installed the > wincodecs-package.. > > Mikael when I've listened to BBC radio it's always offered a choice or realplay or windows media. If you choose windows media it will play with the mplayer-plugin. Assuming you have the mplayer-plugin installed. It should work with other browser plugins but I am certain with mplayer (listening to it now, just to be sure) -- Deck of Cards: $1.29. Card Table: $14.99. "101 Solitaire Variations" book: $6.59. Finding a cheaper replacement for the one thing Windows is ideal for: priceless.- carambola5 -------------------------------------------------- Harold Bibik hwbj at twcny.rr.com From christoph.bier at web.de Sat Feb 24 16:19:22 2007 From: christoph.bier at web.de (Christoph Bier) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:19:22 +0100 Subject: Unable to install from alternate CD Message-ID: Hi, I want to install Edgy from the alternate CD because I want to use LVM. Unfortunately my IDE controller (ITE 8211F) isn't detected by the alternate CD whereas the live CD detects it correctly. Furthermore the menu doesn't offer the appropriate driver (it821x) for this controller. What can I do now? Best wishes Christoph -- +++ Typografie-Regeln: http://zvisionwelt.de/downloads.html (1.6) From davin at nerdshack.com Sat Feb 24 16:25:14 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:25:14 +0100 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E066EA.9090602@nerdshack.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > lör 2007-02-24 klockan 16:53 +0100 skrev Davin Terrizzi: > >> Mikael Backman wrote: >> >>> Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any >>> help... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hello Mikael. >> You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio >> Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a few. >> Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? >> >> -Davin >> > > I tried to do it the usual way (like in windows) Start firefox. Go to > www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it cant > play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have installed the > wincodecs-package.. > > > I used Automatix, but you can use EasyUbuntu to install all the proprietary codecs. NOTE: This may be illegal and im in no way responsible for your deeds. I myself use Amarok to listen to all of my music (including Radio) Try to open the stream with Rhythmbox before you try and install stuff. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Totem pops up and say it cant >> play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have installed the >> wincodecs-package.. >> >> >> > > Mikael > > when I've listened to BBC radio it's always offered a choice or realplay > or windows media. If you choose windows media it will play with the > mplayer-plugin. Assuming you have the mplayer-plugin installed. It > should work with other browser plugins but I am certain with mplayer > (listening to it now, just to be sure) > > > > > > > -- > Deck of Cards: $1.29. Card Table: $14.99. "101 Solitaire Variations" > book: $6.59. Finding a cheaper replacement for the one thing Windows > is ideal for: priceless.- carambola5 > -------------------------------------------------- > Harold Bibik hwbj at twcny.rr.com > > > Mikael I just saw that youre trying to listen to it in your browser, my apologies. Install the 'mozilla-mplayer' plugin for Firefox. It can play the Windows Media streams $ sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer Restart Firefox, hope that helps. -Davin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: davin.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 211 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 16:44:57 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:44:57 -0500 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <20070224114457.0b4e1ac1@chisel> Mikael Backman wrote: > lör 2007-02-24 klockan 16:53 +0100 skrev Davin Terrizzi: > > Mikael Backman wrote: > > > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate > > > any help... > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mikael. > > You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio > > Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a > > few. Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? > > > > -Davin > > I tried to do it the usual way (like in windows) Start firefox. Go to > www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it > cant play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have > installed the wincodecs-package.. You may need to add the "bad" and "ugly" gstreamer plugins too, depending on your configuration. They're in Multiverse. A search on 'gstreamer plugin' with that repo enabled will give you lots of options. Seems to me anyway that when it comes to audio/video codecs and such a "grab everything you can lay hands on" approach works best. When you sort codecs out you might want to take a look at StreamTuner (in the standard repos I think). It's a front end to a few of the more popular Internet radio sites like Shoutcast, Live363, Google Stations, etc. Uses just about any player as a back end, and even has a hook for streamripper if you're into the recording thing. Nicely done little program. Sorts by genre/bitrate/listeners, has bookmarks and "preselections", and once you've chosen something to listen to you can close it. ;) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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None of the commercial music streams are offered this way. They won't do OGG streams, its too expensive and would cause an increase in the TV license fee. Hope that helps. If you are still having problems make a complaint to the BBC. From mback99 at glocalnet.net Sat Feb 24 17:00:12 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:00:12 +0100 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172333709.4784.3.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> <1172333709.4784.3.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> Message-ID: <1172336412.5794.2.camel@mb-laptop> lör 2007-02-24 klockan 11:15 -0500 skrev Harold Bibik: > On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 17:01 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote: > > > > You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio > > > Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a few. > > > Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? > > > > > > -Davin > > > > I tried to do it the usual way (like in windows) Start firefox. Go to > > www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it cant > > play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have installed the > > wincodecs-package.. > > > > > > Mikael > > when I've listened to BBC radio it's always offered a choice or realplay > or windows media. If you choose windows media it will play with the > mplayer-plugin. Assuming you have the mplayer-plugin installed. It > should work with other browser plugins but I am certain with mplayer > (listening to it now, just to be sure) > > > > > > > -- > Deck of Cards: $1.29. Card Table: $14.99. "101 Solitaire Variations" > book: $6.59. Finding a cheaper replacement for the one thing Windows > is ideal for: priceless.- carambola5 > -------------------------------------------------- > Harold Bibik hwbj at twcny.rr.com > Thank you. I installed mplayer with plugin.. Works fine.. :) From mback99 at glocalnet.net Sat Feb 24 17:07:08 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:07:08 +0100 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <20070224114457.0b4e1ac1@chisel> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> <45E05F60.6020803@nerdshack.com> <1172332891.5493.7.camel@mb-laptop> <20070224114457.0b4e1ac1@chisel> Message-ID: <1172336828.5794.5.camel@mb-laptop> lör 2007-02-24 klockan 11:44 -0500 skrev Jeffrey F. Bloss: > Mikael Backman wrote: > > > lör 2007-02-24 klockan 16:53 +0100 skrev Davin Terrizzi: > > > Mikael Backman wrote: > > > > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate > > > > any help... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mikael. > > > You can use a number of media players to play Internet Radio > > > Such as XMMS, Amarok (KDE), Rhythmbox, Totem, and Banshee to name a > > > few. Or are you meaning you have troubles listening to them? > > > > > > -Davin > > > > I tried to do it the usual way (like in windows) Start firefox. Go to > > www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it > > cant play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have > > installed the wincodecs-package.. > > You may need to add the "bad" and "ugly" gstreamer plugins too, > depending on your configuration. They're in Multiverse. A search on > 'gstreamer plugin' with that repo enabled will give you lots of options. > Seems to me anyway that when it comes to audio/video codecs and such a > "grab everything you can lay hands on" approach works best. > > When you sort codecs out you might want to take a look at StreamTuner > (in the standard repos I think). It's a front end to a few of the more > popular Internet radio sites like Shoutcast, Live363, Google Stations, > etc. Uses just about any player as a back end, and even has a hook for > streamripper if you're into the recording thing. Nicely done little > program. Sorts by genre/bitrate/listeners, has bookmarks and > "preselections", and once you've chosen something to listen to you can > close it. ;) > I'll check out Streamtuner.. Seems like an app I'd like... From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sat Feb 24 17:19:01 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:19:01 +0100 Subject: Unable to install from alternate CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E07385.7030707@gmx.de> Christoph Bier schrieb: > Hi, > > I want to install Edgy from the alternate CD because I want to use > LVM. Unfortunately my IDE controller (ITE 8211F) isn't detected by > the alternate CD whereas the live CD detects it correctly. > Furthermore the menu doesn't offer the appropriate driver (it821x) > for this controller. What can I do now? > > Best wishes > Christoph Well, did you check de ISO's md5sum? If it's correct, did you try it with another cd (you shouldn't burn with 100% speed!) mfg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 17:19:32 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:19:32 -0500 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224230811.0f2446df@picasso> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> <20070223233339.28842837@chisel> <20070224230811.0f2446df@picasso> Message-ID: <20070224121932.3bb0806b@chisel> Nikolai wrote: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:33:39 -0500 > "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > > > > I think you're over reacting, or at the very least directing your > > dissatisfaction at a completely innocent target. Even if this were > > an "Edgy problem" you willingly installed an updated version of > > Ubuntu. To not expect some cosmetic changes between completely > > different releases of an entire operating system package is a bit > > unreasonable. Wouldn't you agree? :) > > > Yes, you're right, I have overreacted. There were other, untold issues > as well, the Applications menu was just the last straw :-) At any > rate, I'm back to Dapper, this thing works like a dream on my > machine. Thanks for all the help though. No honkin' hairy deal. Thanks for taking a bit of constructive criticism so graciously. :) FWIW, I think the new Gnome dictionary applet flat out sucks. ;) I installed 'dict' and made hooks to it everyplace I could because I'm such a hurible spuller I nees sumtin holding my hand. If you're happy with Dapper and it does everything you need it to do there's no reason to mess with it. I ran Windows 98 *long* past the point in time XP came out, and Fedora Core 3 until I moved to Ubuntu a couple months ago. Usually on garage sale variety pieced together hardware that most people would laugh at. In fact my last real Windows box was a plain vanilla P166 (overclocked to 200) in a full tower case that said 486DX on the outside. That was about 38 months ago. Nope. I've never been a big proponent of cutting edge with very few exceptions, most of them being select pieces of software. This laptop I'm hammering on right now is only the second brand new machine with a "modern" OS installed I've owned in my life, the first being an Apple IIC. And both of those were gifts. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Go to >>> www.bbc.co.uk Start their radio player.. Totem pops up and say it cant >>> play rtfs-streams (or something like that) yet.. I have installed the >>> wincodecs-package.. >>> >>> >>> >> Mikael >> >> when I've listened to BBC radio it's always offered a choice or realplay >> or windows media. If you choose windows media it will play with the >> mplayer-plugin. Assuming you have the mplayer-plugin installed. It >> should work with other browser plugins but I am certain with mplayer >> (listening to it now, just to be sure) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Deck of Cards: $1.29. Card Table: $14.99. "101 Solitaire Variations" >> book: $6.59. Finding a cheaper replacement for the one thing Windows >> is ideal for: priceless.- carambola5 >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Harold Bibik hwbj at twcny.rr.com >> >> > Thank you. I installed mplayer with plugin.. Works fine.. :) > > > I had the same problem when I was new to Ubuntu. 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But it seems to me that the interfaces > > are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me > > pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . > > If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. Recently I was trying to use only FLOSS to set up a file (so that I knew I could tell some students it was possible). I tried OO.org, Abiword and GIMP and ended up firing up MS Word because the FL/OSS couldn't manage to present an intuitive cropping facility. GIMP could but it was nowhere quick, Abiword and OO.org simply couldn't manage it (I think one of the two offered an interface that you could TYPE in some constraints but this is 2007, NOT 1984!!!). Anyway, my encounter with OO.org and Abiword wasn't all bad. OO.org is as oversized as Word without some of the more useful pieces of Word (most notably Word compatibility ;-), but Abiword shows incredible promise -- for your basic word processing needs and some limited (very limited) page layout needs it's a really nicely crafted app with a very bright future. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 18:42:19 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:42:19 -0500 Subject: VMware In-Reply-To: <45DDFC7D.3050308@comcast.net> References: <45DCF0DD.2090605@comcast.net> <77520bee0702220550x35cd42eeyd68ed3cc77d28c58@mail.gmail.com> <45DDFC7D.3050308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <77520bee0702241042n48c8d61dn3f01dbb674a9014b@mail.gmail.com> On 22/02/07, Patton Echols wrote: > On 02/22/2007 05:50 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > On 21/02/07, Patton Echols wrote: > > > >> This is not really a Ubuntu specific question, but a pointer in the > >> right direction would be great. I've looked around the web about VMware > >> but I think my questions are so basic that the answers are assumed . . . > >> or I could be looking in the wrong places. > >> > >> I read an article recently about maintaining a network of windows > >> desktops by running linux on each desktop and then using Vmware to load > >> windows on each one from a single windows XP image maintained on a server. > >> > >> I volunteer with an educational non profit that maintains a computer > >> lab. The lab computers are quite old (and have been "ridden hard") and > >> need replacement. Because of the need to reimage the drives when > >> students break the windows install, our computer guy says it is > >> important to keep a number of identical boxes, rather than replace them > >> as needed the way non profit organizations are likely to do. > >> > > > > Why don't you lock down the Windows XP images? It's quite possible to > > lock Windows XP Pro down tighter than fort Knox. > > Well the desktops are running Win2000. AFAIK that was chosen over > Win-ME (at the time the other "up to date" option) due to more stability > and the ability to lock it down. The problem is that when software > updates are needed, each machine requires an update. New programs, same > thing. Since we don't have anyone in-house with the skill set, we end > up paying about $10 to $12k per year for support services. > > Back tracking a bit from my previous post: I suppose I really don't know > how much time goes to server maint, how much to updates, and how much to > fixing boxes with "broken" software. But I'm told there are significant > amounts of each. The advantage in your situation is that Linux software is free ($$$). You can install whatever you want, however many times without worrying about those pesky legalities that trip honest, law abiding people up if they want to install multiple copies (or share with others). However, Linux requires expertise and that expertise generally doesn't come cheap. If you have the know-how to manage a Linux _network_ (not just one box), you also have the expertise needed to manage a Windows network (or, at the very least you have the ability to learn quickly). You'll have to evaluate what those computers need to do and run and what your org can afford to pay for support! If you're not doing major stuff, you can quite easily switch to Linux with a minimum of technical prowess. >From a practical POV, Ubuntu has OpenOffice.org and Abiword, both competent word processors and good for learning "the basics". OpenOffice.org also offers a PowerPoint-like module and an Excel-like spread sheet (which, for simple teaching-style spread sheet operations is actually fairly good). GIMP, though convoluted and VERY slow on slow computers, is functional and will get students ready to shift to Photoshop when they're ready. If you're using ArcView GIS or MapInfo, you can check out some of the FL/OSS GIS packages. Apple won a contract with the US state Maine (http://www.maine.gov/mlti/) to provide their students with Apple laptops running GRASS. I have a legal licence to ArcView so I don't need to run GRASS, but if MapInfo or ArcView are out of reach then GRASS is now a viable and VERY cost-effective alternative (and, it's getting better). Obviously, web browsing is a cake-walk with FireFox ;-). That said, ALL THESE APPS ARE AVAILABLE FOR WINDOWS AS WELL! What is your major cost? Hardware? Application software? Operating system software? Support? What other apps do you have that are proprietary Windows-only that you'll need to run? Can you replace them with FULLY FUNCTIONAL (not half-assed) open source analogues or do you have to stick with them. You're going to have to think long and hard about whether you can *afford* Linux on the support side. Set up is going to take a lot and the Windows apps will not work perfectly (or at all). In the long run, you'll have more control over the machines, so, unless you keep adding software, you'll be able to "lock" them down and ignore them. In the meantime, why don't you grab three or four computers and try creating your own network (or, have your tech guy/gal do that)! Since Ubuntu is free ($$) and Free (speech) you can do whatever you want and see if it's viable. PS VMware is a good virtual machine environment to use for experimentation. In the past few weeks I've tried a number of OSes and configurations in VMware and I've now settled on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS running VHCS and Webmin to manage my server. I was able to completely destroy OSes by adding repositories that I normally wouldn't and, even if I made a mistake in configuring something, I could just select "Restore Snapshot", undo what I'd done and start over. (plus, important for me since I need ArcView which is Windows-only, I can dual-boot the machine, and, when in Windows, my VMware Ubuntu server just fires up in the back ground using up only 128 MB of RAM :-) Eric. From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Feb 23 23:57:33 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:57:33 +0100 Subject: Imagemagick converting horizontal images In-Reply-To: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> (Marcanth's message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:17:22 -0800 (PST)") References: <9099612.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <87tzxca0lu.fsf@spamfence.net> Marcanth wrote: > I have about 30 images and would like to resize only the horizontal ones. > How could I do this with ImageMagick -resize option? Example: > > image01.jpg (width: 400, height: 200). This image (horizontal) will be > resized to, let's say, 200x100. > > image02.jpg (width: 100, height: 500). This one is vertical, so it will not > be affected. > > How could I do this? Not tested: cat your_files_one_line_per_file_name| while read file; do if eval "`identify -format 'test %h -gt %w' $file`"; then convert -resize what_ever $file some_dir/$file fi done Florian -- From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 20:25:11 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:25:11 +0800 Subject: Alternatives to chkconfig Message-ID: Hi, Debian systems and Ubuntu don't use chkconfig to enable/disable daemons, Is there a chkconfig equivalent to enable/disable daemons? Regards, Joel -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From christoph.bier at web.de Sat Feb 24 20:41:08 2007 From: christoph.bier at web.de (Christoph Bier) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:41:08 +0100 Subject: Unable to install from alternate CD In-Reply-To: <45E07385.7030707@gmx.de> References: <45E07385.7030707@gmx.de> Message-ID: Nicolai Spohrer schrieb am 24.02.2007 18:19: > Christoph Bier schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> I want to install Edgy from the alternate CD because I want to use >> LVM. Unfortunately my IDE controller (ITE 8211F) isn't detected by >> the alternate CD whereas the live CD detects it correctly. >> Furthermore the menu doesn't offer the appropriate driver (it821x) >> for this controller. What can I do now? > Well, did you check de ISO's md5sum? Yes, I did. They were the same. > If it's correct, did you try it > with another cd (you shouldn't burn with 100% speed!) ?? How can burn speed influence the hardware detection rate of the installer? But ok, I tried with -speed=8 instead of -speed=52---nothing changed: ITE controller isn't detected and the corresponding module not offered. Thanks for your answer! BTW: I'd much appreciate an explanation how burn speed can influence the hardware detection of the installer. Best wishes Christoph -- +++ Typografie-Regeln: http://zvisionwelt.de/downloads.html (1.6) From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Sat Feb 24 20:42:54 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:42:54 -0600 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel><00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1172317055.7595.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <003f01c75854$61564790$6400e40a@stellaluna> >> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: >>> In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a >>> requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it >>> implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have >>> to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but >>> to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a >>> Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95. > Dave Grundgeiger wrote: >> So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a requirement and >> I >> run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? Duncan Lithgow wrote: > There is a difference between the text of an EULA and a > manual/readme/system requirements specifying what hardware/software > you'll 'require' for it to run. The latter is what I took Jeffery to mean, as I don't recall ever seeing the operating system specified in an application's EULA (though I don't ever do more than skim them). I found a page on Microsoft's site called "Find License Terms for Software Licensed from Microsoft" (http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx). I looked at the license terms for Office 2007 and SharePoint Portal Server 2003 just to pick two. A text search didn't find the word "Windows" in either license. Am I missing something? Dave From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 20:43:02 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:43:02 +0100 Subject: Alternatives to chkconfig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joel Bryan Juliano a écrit : > Hi, > > Debian systems and Ubuntu don't use chkconfig to enable/disable daemons, > Is there a chkconfig equivalent to enable/disable daemons? > > Regards, > Joel > man update-rc.d or sysv-rc-conf (see : $ apt-cache show sysv-rc-conf Package: sysv-rc-conf Priority: optional Section: universe/admin Installed-Size: 104 Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers Architecture: all Version: 0.99-5 Depends: libcurses-ui-perl, sysv-rc Filename: pool/universe/s/sysv-rc-conf/sysv-rc-conf_0.99-5_all.deb Size: 24102 MD5sum: 0707dbafdab52140fdffd12d22b89d4f SHA1: 816e03628a009fd25716475b774a64bb4212e789 SHA256: beba297dd77cd802d291db2c75882f538d262bdf1befa95441ca3cbc9382d20a Description: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal sysv-rc-conf provides a terminal GUI for managing "/etc/rc{runlevel}.d/" symlinks. The interface comes in two different flavors, one that simply allows turning services on or off and another that allows for more fine tuned management of the symlinks. Unlike most runlevel config programs, you can edit startup scripts for any runlevel, not just your current one. X-Original-Maintainer: Francesco Pedrini Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Origin: Ubuntu ) From christoph.bier at web.de Sat Feb 24 20:57:26 2007 From: christoph.bier at web.de (Christoph Bier) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:57:26 +0100 Subject: Unable to install from alternate CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Christoph Bier schrieb am 24.02.2007 17:19: > Hi, > > I want to install Edgy from the alternate CD because I want to use > LVM. Unfortunately my IDE controller (ITE 8211F) isn't detected by > the alternate CD whereas the live CD detects it correctly. > Furthermore the menu doesn't offer the appropriate driver (it821x) > for this controller. What can I do now? The it821x module just isn't present on the alternate CD ...: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47197 -- +++ Typografie-Regeln: http://zvisionwelt.de/downloads.html (1.6) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 24 21:01:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:01:29 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: <1172329122.6254.23.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> <45DF7A89.9030400@gatech.edu> <1172329122.6254.23.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <45E0A7A9.8090507@gatech.edu> The enigma wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 18:36 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Scott Sweeny wrote: >>>> What's up, Scott. >>>> >>>> I wasn't on the web at all. I happened to be using Mozilla Sunbird >>>> calendar. I don't know if that had anything to do with that message box from >>>> Netscape, or not. I wasn't directly trying to access the web. Really weird! >>>> It's almost like they wanted to setup a file of some kind, on my machine to >>>> send them error logs. (???) >>>> -- >>>> Rick D. >>> Hey Rick, >>> A couple more questions: >>> 1. Was Sunbird by any chance crashing or producing an error that you know of? >>> 2. Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on >>> that machine? >>> >>> This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog >>> pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could >>> help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. >> Mozilla is of course based on Netscape, and it has a Talkback crash >> reporting system. I've never had it come up on Sunbird, but it's >> possible that Sunbird does have it, and they forgot to take out some >> mention of Netscape. >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> > > Matthew, > Yeah Mozilla is based on Netscape, that's probably where that came from. > There wasn't any crash on my system, thought. I just didn't like not > being able to close out of it with out having to respond to it, even > though I chose "no", know what I mean? Yes, it is strange, and it brings back bad memories of Windows, where all the windows are modular. What version of Sunbird are you running. I'm using .3 . Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 24 21:01:48 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:01:48 -0800 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: On 02/24/2007 07:12 AM, Mikael Backman wrote: > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any > help... > > For RealPlayer: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/2f35b4] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2BRealPlayer How to install Multimedia Player (RealPlayer 10) * Read #General Notes * Read #How to add extra repositories sudo aptitude install realplay Note: 'realplay' installs RealPlayer 10 from PLF repository, which you should be enabled if you followed this guide. 'realplayer' installs RealPlayer 8 from multiverse. * Applications -> Sound & Video -> RealPlayer 10 It will also install all the necessary plugins automagically for it to view embedded real videos in Firefox * To avoid issues of flickering or screen going blank when switching windows, goto o RealPlayer 10 -> Tools -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Uncheck XVideo * To avoid issues with sound o Make sure you have ALSA OSS driver. sudo apt-get install alsa-oss then edit the startup script (/usr/lib/realplay-10.0.8/realplay) and changed line 73 from $REALPLAYBIN “$@” to aoss $REALPLAYBIN “$@” Alternative Source * Download Realplayer's Official Linux Version Then add execute permissions to the installer and execute it. chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sat Feb 24 21:07:27 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:07:27 +0100 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) Message-ID: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Hello guys. I played with my fonts in kcontrol and so (I use gnome...) and deleted the file ~/.fonts-config. Maybe I changed something else, too. I don't really know. But now gnome does not want to start anymore for my primary user. It works perfectly with my other user-account. And KDE works for my primary account at the moment. Problem: I enter username/password in GDM (changed my theme), press "Enter" and my screen becomes blue - so far, so okay (that's usual). But then I hear the usual gnome drums and my desktop freezes. Nothing happens anymore.The screen stays absolutely blue. I can use the TTYs and so. Reboot does not help. I have some backups but I do not really want to use them. And that may not be such a big problem (I hope...). Can anybody help me? greetings... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They were the same. > >> If it's correct, did you try it >> with another cd (you shouldn't burn with 100% speed!) > > ?? How can burn speed influence the hardware detection rate of the > installer? But ok, I tried with -speed=8 instead of > -speed=52---nothing changed: ITE controller isn't detected and the > corresponding module not offered. > > Thanks for your answer! > > BTW: I'd much appreciate an explanation how burn speed can influence > the hardware detection of the installer. It think it can't, unless there's a particularly unlikely kind file corruption. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it 's a problem of integration. So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression about this integration thing. PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 24 21:15:56 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:15:56 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> Message-ID: <1172351757.14082.1.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 11:12 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > > > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > > > In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > > > requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > > > implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even > > > have to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic > > > came up), but to run almost any Windows software legally requires > > > ownership of a Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows > > > 95. > > > > So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a requirement > > and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? > > Of course not. The two requirements have almost nothing in common. > "512MB minimum RAM" not being a recognizable trademark for one. If they > specifically called out Kingston memory, perhaps... Unless the license says you MUST run the software on Windows, I don't see a significant difference. If I buy a PS1 game that says it requires a PS1, and I play it on a PS2, am I illegal? Sony bought Connectix to sort out the legal matter of duplicating their Playstation in software, but there was never an argument about whether you could run PS1 games on it. Again, I don't buy the argument that a hardware/software requirement is equivalent to a MUST statement regarding use. The only entity that could possibly have a claim against wine (or users of wine) would be Microsoft because it's their IP that's potentially at risk. > OTOH, if you call XYZ Comapny and tell them you're running their > software in 256MB they have every right to effectively disown that > installation and any attached warranty or support agreement, implied or > otherwise. Which goes to the "no Windows license = illegal" side by > spotlighting another way in which these requirements *do* have some > legal weight weight to them. ;) > -- Michael R. 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I tried OO.org, > Abiword and GIMP and ended up firing up MS Word because the FL/OSS > couldn't manage to present an intuitive cropping facility. GIMP could > but it was nowhere quick, Abiword and OO.org simply couldn't manage it > (I think one of the two offered an interface that you could TYPE in > some constraints but this is 2007, NOT 1984!!!). That's apparently OO (even in Draw), which I agree is a major deficiency. It's a known bug (http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=19665) > Anyway, my encounter with OO.org and Abiword wasn't all bad. OO.org is > as oversized as Word without some of the more useful pieces of Word > (most notably Word compatibility ;-) The compatibility has usually worked for me. What problems have you had? Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Did kde changes that much ?". So > to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it > 's a problem of integration. > > So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression > about this integration thing. > > PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in > development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. > > Nah I'll agree with you, KDE on Ubuntu sucks. It's all about which environment a particular ditro favours. Mandriva base their release on KDE and favour KDE so they spend all their time polishing it. Although on Ubuntu KDE and Gnome are "equal" they aren't, these are just politically correct words. I find Ubuntu to receive far more polish than KDE does and as a result I stick with Gnome. One other thing - DON'T YOU DARE POST A VIDEO HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise, peace out, d00d From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 24 21:24:00 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:24:00 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <000501c7569c$41255100$0800000a@default> References: <000501c7569c$41255100$0800000a@default> Message-ID: <45E0ACF0.2040909@gatech.edu> brett wrote: > I installed ubuntu 5.10. it seems to load fine but I end up with a blank screen and a cursor in top left corner, but I have no keyboard or mouse funtion. could you point me in the right direction. thanks Did you really install 5.10? I would recommend 6.10. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And even if I wanted I wouldn't be able to, the file would have been too large to go through :) From glgxg at mfire.com Sat Feb 24 22:15:15 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:15:15 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02/24/2007 10:13 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 23/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: >> >> > HP PhotoDelux (like Photoshop Lite) -- Yes, yes, I know that the Gimp is >> > supposed to be great - and I am determined to spend the time to figure >> > it out if I can, (especially since Photodelux is on the home desktop and >> > not the lappy where it belongs.) But it seems to me that the interfaces >> > are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me >> > pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . >> You can run PhotoDelux under WINE. Or, if you want something very simple install Google's Picasa: http://picasa.google.com/linux/ >> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then >> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you >> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and >> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real photo work I prefer Gimp. > > I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > Recently I was trying to use only FLOSS to set up a file (so that I > knew I could tell some students it was possible). I tried OO.org, > Abiword and GIMP and ended up firing up MS Word because the FL/OSS > couldn't manage to present an intuitive cropping facility. GIMP could > but it was nowhere quick, Abiword and OO.org simply couldn't manage it > (I think one of the two offered an interface that you could TYPE in > some constraints but this is 2007, NOT 1984!!!). > > Anyway, my encounter with OO.org and Abiword wasn't all bad. OO.org is > as oversized as Word without some of the more useful pieces of Word > (most notably Word compatibility ;-), but Abiword shows incredible What "compatibility" issues did you have with OOo? You can load Word docs, exit, save as, etc. OOo inlcudes Write, Calc, Draw, Base - that's hardly an oversized Word. That said; neither OOo Write, Word, or Abiword are useful for cropping photos. Why would you even attempt that? From ed.smits at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 22:24:20 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:24:20 -0500 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: an idiot's way of fixing things when I screw up like that - give the other account sudo rights, log in under that acc't - use sudo to change your normal home directory name to something else, log out. Log back in under your usual user name, it will assume this is your first session under Gnome and create you a whole new Gnome to mess around in. Copy your necessary /home files from your old directory back into your new one - don't forget to copy the hidden ones EXCEPT for any that look to be related to Gnome - I usually just copy .mozilla and .vmware, leave the rest behind. I'm sure there are better ways to do this but this one works for me Cheers ED On 2/24/07, Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > Hello guys. > I played with my fonts in kcontrol and so (I use gnome...) and deleted > the file ~/.fonts-config. Maybe I changed something else, too. I don't > really know. But now gnome does not want to start anymore for my primary > user. It works perfectly with my other user-account. And KDE works for > my primary account at the moment. Problem: > I enter username/password in GDM (changed my theme), press "Enter" and > my screen becomes blue - so far, so okay (that's usual). But then I hear > the usual gnome drums and my desktop freezes. Nothing happens > anymore.The screen stays absolutely blue. I can use the TTYs and so. > Reboot does not help. I have some backups but I do not really want to > use them. And that may not be such a big problem (I hope...). > > Can anybody help me? > > greetings... > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From christoph.bier at web.de Sat Feb 24 21:17:45 2007 From: christoph.bier at web.de (Christoph Bier) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:17:45 +0100 Subject: Unable to install from alternate CD In-Reply-To: <45E0A98F.30107@gatech.edu> References: <45E07385.7030707@gmx.de> <45E0A98F.30107@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen schrieb am 24.02.2007 22:09: > Christoph Bier wrote: [...] >> BTW: I'd much appreciate an explanation how burn speed can influence >> the hardware detection of the installer. > > It think it can't, unless there's a particularly unlikely kind file > corruption. Thank you! -- +++ Typografie-Regeln: http://zvisionwelt.de/downloads.html (1.6) From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sat Feb 24 22:49:24 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:49:24 +0100 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45E0C0F4.3060303@gmx.de> Ed Smits schrieb: > an idiot's way of fixing things when I screw up like that - give the > other account sudo rights, log in under that acc't - use sudo to > change your normal home directory name to something else, log out. Log > back in under your usual user name, it will assume this is your first > session under Gnome and create you a whole new Gnome to mess around > in. Copy your necessary /home files from your old directory back into > your new one - don't forget to copy the hidden ones EXCEPT for any > that look to be related to Gnome - I usually just copy .mozilla and > .vmware, leave the rest behind. Hm... I just tried to remove the .gnome and .gnome2 folder, but the same problem appeared... Sad :-/ I do not really want to go that "idiot way", because mich programs have changed settings and so... There MUST be another solution, right? :'-( sad greetings :-[ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 24 22:51:43 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:51:43 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <1172351757.14082.1.camel@localhost> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> <1172351757.14082.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070224175143.4ed5deff@chisel> Michael R. Head wrote: > > > So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a > > > requirement and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? > > > > Of course not. The two requirements have almost nothing in common. > > "512MB minimum RAM" not being a recognizable trademark for one. If > > they specifically called out Kingston memory, perhaps... > > Unless the license says you MUST run the software on Windows, I don't > see a significant difference. This *is* explicitly stated. Do you buy software designed for "any old oddball operating system you have installed"? Of course not. You buy software made to be run on at least a specific "brand" of OS, and almost always there are some specific version requirements... "Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/etc". This is even true for FOSS in a lot of cases. Requires kernel version x.x.x or better and such. It's also true with cross platform software. > > If I buy a PS1 game that says it requires a PS1, and I play it on a > PS2, am I illegal? There's no such thing as precognition when it comes to environment needs. You can't issue a piece of software with a "requirement" that it be run in an environment that doesn't exist, and every bit of software that says PS1 but also runs on PS2 falls into that category. I'd also wager there's a considerable amount of legalese floating around that covers exactly this "future hardware" scenario, albeit retroactively. > > Sony bought Connectix to sort out the legal matter of duplicating > their Playstation in software, but there was never an argument about > whether you could run PS1 games on it. Because they specifically allow/license it? Of course they do. > Again, I don't buy the argument that a hardware/software requirement > is equivalent to a MUST statement regarding use. The only entity that > could possibly have a claim against wine (or users of wine) would be > Microsoft because it's their IP that's potentially at risk. Yes. That's exactly what I said regarding Wine. But if you can find a piece of third party Windows software out there that's doesn't specifically call out "Microsoft Windows whatever" please produce it. If you can't do this, or produce a second company named "Microsoft" who produces an operating system called "Windows", then your "Microsoft Windows doesn't really mean Microsoft Windows" argument crumbles. I never meant to start an OS wars sub-thread. In fact My personal feelings about how things *should* be are more in line with yours. Again, this is an interpretation of copyright and licensing law made by some pretty knowledgeable people actively dealing with the issues internationally. If you believe you're better qualified to decipher the law than a legal firm so be it. I think I'll trust their opinion over yours unless you can produce some matching credentials. ;) Also note that I *clearly* said this is a strict interpretation, and even my legal eagle pals don't deny the fact that in the end it's a matter of who presents the more convincing argument to a judge and jury. EOT -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Robert From aradsky at ne.rr.com Sat Feb 24 22:53:51 2007 From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:53:51 -0500 Subject: Saving ubuntu email to CD or DVD In-Reply-To: <45DF0D3F.1050808@crans.org> References: <45DF082C.1080609@ne.rr.com> <45DF0D3F.1050808@crans.org> Message-ID: <45E0C1FF.9090508@ne.rr.com> Maxime DANIS wrote: >alex a écrit : > > >>I'm running Thunderbird for email and have accumulated thousands of >>ubuntu list emails. I'd like to remove the older mail and save it on >>CD or DVD for future reference. >> >>How can this be done---saving and reading? >> >> >> > >All the mail are archived on ubuntu servers. > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ > >and if you want to search in. > >http://www.google.fr/search?q=site%3Alists.ubuntu.com > >so no need to burn a dvd > > > Thanks, Matthew and Maxime, your replies are what I needed. alex From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 24 23:03:27 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:03:27 -0500 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45E0C43F.8020107@gatech.edu> Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > Hello guys. > I played with my fonts in kcontrol and so (I use gnome...) and deleted > the file ~/.fonts-config. Maybe I changed something else, too. I don't > really know. But now gnome does not want to start anymore for my primary > user. Not to state the obvious, but I'd guess GNOME needs ~/.fonts-config. Have you tried copying that from the backup. Matthew Flaschen P.S. I use KDE. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Feb 24 23:05:16 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:05:16 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <20070224175143.4ed5deff@chisel> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> <1172351757.14082.1.camel@localhost> <20070224175143.4ed5deff@chisel> Message-ID: <45E0C4AC.8060102@gatech.edu> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > >>>> So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a >>>> requirement and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? >>> Of course not. The two requirements have almost nothing in common. >>> "512MB minimum RAM" not being a recognizable trademark for one. If >>> they specifically called out Kingston memory, perhaps... >> Unless the license says you MUST run the software on Windows, I don't >> see a significant difference. > > This *is* explicitly stated. But not usually in the EULA (which usually says no other text is legally binding). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Sat Feb 24 23:17:39 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:17:39 -0500 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: <45E0C0F4.3060303@gmx.de> References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> <45E0C0F4.3060303@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1172359059.14082.3.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 23:49 +0100, Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > Ed Smits schrieb: > > an idiot's way of fixing things when I screw up like that - give the > > other account sudo rights, log in under that acc't - use sudo to > > change your normal home directory name to something else, log out. Log > > back in under your usual user name, it will assume this is your first > > session under Gnome and create you a whole new Gnome to mess around > > in. Copy your necessary /home files from your old directory back into > > your new one - don't forget to copy the hidden ones EXCEPT for any > > that look to be related to Gnome - I usually just copy .mozilla and > > .vmware, leave the rest behind. > Hm... I just tried to remove the .gnome and .gnome2 folder, but the same > problem appeared... Sad :-/ I do not really want to go that "idiot way", > because mich programs have changed settings and so... There MUST be > another solution, right? :'-( Can you attach the .xsession-errors file after attempting to log into GNOME? (log in with the broken account, then log in with the working account and attach /home//.xsession-errors mike > sad greetings :-[ > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Copy your necessary /home files from your old directory back into >>> your new one - don't forget to copy the hidden ones EXCEPT for any >>> that look to be related to Gnome - I usually just copy .mozilla and >>> .vmware, leave the rest behind. >> Hm... I just tried to remove the .gnome and .gnome2 folder, but the same >> problem appeared... Sad :-/ I do not really want to go that "idiot way", >> because mich programs have changed settings and so... There MUST be >> another solution, right? :'-( > > Can you attach the .xsession-errors file after attempting to log into > GNOME? (log in with the broken account, then log in with the working > account and attach /home//.xsession-errors > > mike > >> sad greetings :-[ >> Well, I already looked at this file, but it seems gnome does not TRY to start, so there's no entry. KDE is making entries. That is really really strange... I have no idea what to do. Typing "gnome-session" in a failsafe x-term-session produce no output and a strange white thing in the left side of my monitor. ohoho.... nicolai -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Sat Feb 24 23:53:40 2007 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:53:40 +0100 Subject: knode authentication bug in Feisty? Message-ID: <200702250053.40752.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> Hi, Before filing a bug, I would like to know if I am not alone. I encounter athentication error when using knode. My news server requires authentication, and I get a 502 error when trying even to fetch the groups list. Would you have the same behaviour please? From lance at dallypost.com Sun Feb 25 00:01:16 2007 From: lance at dallypost.com (Lance Earl) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:01:16 -0700 Subject: Sound detection for LAMP server Message-ID: <45E0D1CC.8000502@dallypost.com> I recently installed Dapper LAMP server on a system that I previously used as a desktop. As a desktop, the sound card was always detected and worked perfectly for Ubuntu and other flavors. I will be using this server to stream mp3 files with Icecast and MPD. When I start MPD, it complains about not finding the sound card. I am wondering if Dapper LAMP does not install sound support. If this is the case, how can I get it installed? The output follows: /root at www:/etc/init.d# ./mpd restart Stopping Music Player Daemon: not running or no pid_file set. Starting Music Player Daemon: ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device ALSA lib confmisc.c:1072:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default No audio_output specified and unable to detect a default audio output device failed. / From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 00:10:00 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:10:00 +0800 Subject: Alternatives to chkconfig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/25/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Joel Bryan Juliano a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > Debian systems and Ubuntu don't use chkconfig to enable/disable daemons, > > Is there a chkconfig equivalent to enable/disable daemons? > > > > Regards, > > Joel > > > > man update-rc.d > > or > > sysv-rc-conf > > (see : $ apt-cache show sysv-rc-conf > Package: sysv-rc-conf > Priority: optional > Section: universe/admin > Installed-Size: 104 > Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers > Architecture: all > Version: 0.99-5 > Depends: libcurses-ui-perl, sysv-rc > Filename: pool/universe/s/sysv-rc-conf/sysv-rc-conf_0.99-5_all.deb > Size: 24102 > MD5sum: 0707dbafdab52140fdffd12d22b89d4f > SHA1: 816e03628a009fd25716475b774a64bb4212e789 > SHA256: beba297dd77cd802d291db2c75882f538d262bdf1befa95441ca3cbc9382d20a > Description: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal > sysv-rc-conf provides a terminal GUI for managing "/etc/rc{runlevel}.d/" > symlinks. The interface comes in two different flavors, one that simply > allows turning services on or off and another that allows for more > fine tuned > management of the symlinks. Unlike most runlevel config programs, you can > edit startup scripts for any runlevel, not just your current one. > X-Original-Maintainer: Francesco Pedrini > Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Origin: Ubuntu > > ) > > Thank you, this is what I'm looking for. :-) > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 00:04:37 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:04:37 +0100 Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output Message-ID: hi, I have written a nautilus script that I use on my computer to convert some videos to avi. The script runs well for me but I would like to share it and I want to get rid of some little problems : 1. How do I get "mencoder" percentage to pipe it to zenity ? I have tried a lot but I can't. 2. How do I bind zenity --progress cancel button to the task so that when I press cancel it cancels or kill the task ? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Convert2avi URL: From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Sun Feb 25 00:26:55 2007 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:26:55 +0100 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: <45E0AC62.3010109@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <200702250126.55355.mihamina.rakotomandimby@etu.univ-orleans.fr> On Saturday 24 February 2007 22:28:06 Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > I am sorry, I wanted to say : I'll post the youtube link here. Duh! Flash is not free, it stinks. From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 25 00:30:05 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:30:05 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <20070224175143.4ed5deff@chisel> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <20070224111222.2f057c61@chisel> <1172351757.14082.1.camel@localhost> <20070224175143.4ed5deff@chisel> Message-ID: <1172363406.14082.15.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 17:51 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > > > > So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a > > > > requirement and I run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? > > > > > > Of course not. The two requirements have almost nothing in common. > > > "512MB minimum RAM" not being a recognizable trademark for one. If > > > they specifically called out Kingston memory, perhaps... > > > > Unless the license says you MUST run the software on Windows, I don't > > see a significant difference. > > This *is* explicitly stated. Do you buy software designed for "any old > oddball operating system you have installed"? Of course not. You buy > software made to be run on at least a specific "brand" of OS, and > almost always there are some specific version requirements... "Windows > 95/98/NT/2000/XP/etc". This is even true for FOSS in a lot of cases. > Requires kernel version x.x.x or better and such. It's also true with > cross platform software. A technical requirement is not equivalent to a legal requirement. > > > > If I buy a PS1 game that says it requires a PS1, and I play it on a > > PS2, am I illegal? > > There's no such thing as precognition when it comes to environment > needs. You can't issue a piece of software with a "requirement" that it > be run in an environment that doesn't exist, and every bit of software > that says PS1 but also runs on PS2 falls into that category. I'd also > wager there's a considerable amount of legalese floating around that > covers exactly this "future hardware" scenario, albeit retroactively. Not such that buyers of the games agree to. > > Again, I don't buy the argument that a hardware/software requirement > > is equivalent to a MUST statement regarding use. The only entity that > > could possibly have a claim against wine (or users of wine) would be > > Microsoft because it's their IP that's potentially at risk. > > Yes. That's exactly what I said regarding Wine. But if you can find a > piece of third party Windows software out there that's doesn't > specifically call out "Microsoft Windows whatever" please produce it. > If you can't do this, or produce a second company named "Microsoft" > who produces an operating system called "Windows", then your "Microsoft > Windows doesn't really mean Microsoft Windows" argument crumbles. I guess I was asking the opposite. Produce a legal contract that states that a piece of software requires (in a legal sense, not a technical sense) Microsoft Windows(tm). Even if it does, it probably specifies Windows XX (some version). Does that mean it's illegal to run it on future versions? If it has some upward compatibility loop hole, does that mean I can hold the manufacturer accountable when a given piece of software for Win98 or WinXP doesn't work on (say) Vista? Consider most any piece of hardware for your PC. Unless it states that it supports Linux, it's going to say that it requires Windows to work. Does that mean that most hardware out there is illegal to use with Linux? Unless it requires proprietary, non-distributable firmware (such as the bcm43xx wireless chipset) I think not. > I never meant to start an OS wars sub-thread. In fact My personal > feelings about how things *should* be are more in line with yours. > Again, this is an interpretation of copyright and licensing law made by > some pretty knowledgeable people actively dealing with the issues > internationally. If you believe you're better qualified to decipher the > law than a legal firm so be it. I think I'll trust their opinion over > yours unless you can produce some matching credentials. ;) I tend to trust arguments over credentials. Appeals to authority don't usually sway me > Also note that I *clearly* said this is a strict interpretation, and > even my legal eagle pals don't deny the fact that in the end it's a > matter of who presents the more convincing argument to a judge and > jury. Agreed. > EOT kk no malice intended, none inferred :-) -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From psalmos at swissinfo.org Sun Feb 25 00:40:18 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:40:18 +1000 Subject: Tomboy (was : applications menu) In-Reply-To: <20070224121932.3bb0806b@chisel> References: <20070223202200.2b766f18@picasso> <20070224105259.3784d9d0@picasso> <20070223233339.28842837@chisel> <20070224230811.0f2446df@picasso> <20070224121932.3bb0806b@chisel> Message-ID: <20070225104018.69a9318e@picasso> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:19:32 -0500 "Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote: > If you're happy with Dapper and it does everything you need it to do > there's no reason to mess with it. Yes, I agree, normally I don't upgrade just because I can (especially so when it comes to operating systems) but there are days when upgrade demons overpower you and then you're sucked in into some stupid time wasting exercises :-) BTW, I think it was you who mentioned claws-mail thingy one day? Thanks for that, love this email client, I wanted something like this for a long time. Nikolai From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 00:49:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E0DD21.7050504@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > hi, > > I have written a nautilus script If you intend your script to specifically be a bash script, you should use: #!/bin/bash Someone just had an issue a while ago about that; their scripts stopped working when sh changed from bash to dash. It could change again, so unless you're using POSIX-compliant sh specify which you want. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 25 01:06:29 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration References: Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Hi there, > > I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset > that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a > big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that > Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. > > So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the > Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at > KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of > software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for > a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So > to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it > 's a problem of integration. > > So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression > about this integration thing. > > PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in > development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. I'm probably not a good critic, as I've only ever used KDE on Linux, and only on Debian-based systems, so maybe there were better implementations, but I don't see the problem. How about some concrete examples? -- derek From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 01:20:59 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:20:59 +0100 Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output In-Reply-To: <45E0DD21.7050504@gatech.edu> References: <45E0DD21.7050504@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> hi, >> >> I have written a nautilus script > > If you intend your script to specifically be a bash script, you should use: > > #!/bin/bash > > Someone just had an issue a while ago about that; their scripts stopped > working when sh changed from bash to dash. It could change again, so > unless you're using POSIX-compliant sh specify which you want. > > Matthew Flaschen > > Yep , I changed it to /bin/bash . thanks PS: my questions are still on :) From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 25 01:22:23 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:22:23 -0500 Subject: Web radio In-Reply-To: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172329974.5493.2.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <1172366544.14082.20.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 16:12 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote: > Can I get webradio in ubuntu? Realplayer and WMP? I'd appreciate any > help... some points * totem-mozilla (the totem mozilla/firefox plugin) can frequently play WMP streams, assuming you've got all the codecs and gstreamer0.10 plugins installed * As others have said, mplayer has a mozilla plugin that works very well, too * The official realplayer is in the canoncial commercial archive: * deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main * deb-src http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main * www.shoutcast.com has a long list of mp3 streams (including many NPR stations' feeds) that rhythmbox and/or totem can definitely play (with gstreamer mp3 support installed) > -- Michael R. 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How do I bind zenity --progress cancel button to the task so that > when I press cancel it cancels or kill the task ? > > Thanks > > > > > > #!/bin/sh > # Author :Ouattara Aziz > # Date : 31/12/2006 > #depends: mplayer, zenity,tree > #version 0.1 > > #test si un fichier a Ã(c)tÃ(c) choisi > if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then > zenity --error --title="error" --text="SÃ(c)lectionnez au moins un fichier" > exit 1 > fi > > #montre la fenètre de sÃ(c)lection de dossier de destination > title="Choisissez votre dossier de destination" > destdir=`zenity --title "$title" --file-selection --directory | sed 's/ max//g' ` > > #if $? != 0, user click on cancel button, so exit > if [ "$?" != 0 ] ; then > exit > fi > > #Selectionnez le dossier de destination > if [ ! "$destdir" ]; then > zenity --error --title="error" --text="SÃ(c)lectionnez un dossier de destination" > exit > fi > > # si on a juste un fichier sÃ(c)lectionnÃ(c) (donc pas un rÃ(c)pertoire) . > if [ ! -d "$1" ] > then > echo "# traitement video $1 ..." > mencoder -idx "$1" -ovc x264 -oac mp3lame -o "$destdir/$1.avi" | while read LINE ; > do > echo "# $LINE" > done | zenity --progress --auto-close --pulsate > else > ORIGDIR=`echo "$1" | sed 's/ /\\ /g'` > > tree -if "$ORIGDIR" | head -n -2 | while read FILE; > do > # VÃ(c)rification du type de fichier > if [ -d "$FILE" ] > then > mkdir "$destdir/$FILE"; > else > echo "# traitement video $FILE ..." > mencoder -idx "$FILE" -ovc x264 -oac mp3lame -o "$destdir/$FILE.avi" > fi > done | zenity --progress --auto-close --pulsate --title="conversion" --text="Conversion des vidÃ(c)os" --percentage=0 > fi > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > if your going to use #!/bin/sh, you need to explicitly define your syntax. for example in bash this is fine. if [ -z $MY_CONDITION ]; then foo fi but in dash, it's not. you'll have to put the semicolon delimiter on every command. also, for functions this is fine with bash function name { ... } but dash syntax should be name () { ... }; for redirecting in dash with zenity, I think this is fine. { command1; command2; command3; } > $ZENITY or ( command1; command2; command3; ) | $ZENITY; Hope this helps! Joel -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 25 01:28:09 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:28:09 -0500 Subject: 1 checksum keeps failing with feisty-desktop-i386 21022007 In-Reply-To: <45DF79C8.6090905@gatech.edu> References: <21758163.151931172254695256.JavaMail.ari.torhamo@saunalahti.fi> <1172264942.7626.15.camel@localhost> <45DF79C8.6090905@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172366889.14082.25.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 18:33 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Ari Torhamo wrote: > >> I just downloaded and burned feisty-desktop-i386.iso of 21.7. I keep > >> getting one checksum fail when I check the disk no matter what I do. I > >> have downloaded the file three times and burned it to two different > >> disks (from different manufacturers). Could it be that the file is > >> corrupt? I have downloaded and burned feisty twice before this without > >> problems. Actually, to my remembering, I have never had a checksum > >> problem with any of my ubuntu disks before. > >> > >> Is anyone else having problems with this file? In the meantime I might > >> give herd 4 a try to have something to move on with. > > > > You can mount the ISO itself before burning and check the checksums. > > > > $ mkdir iso > > $ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso iso > > $ cd iso > > $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt > > ... > > lots of output > > ... > > > > If everything's OK, then the ISO is fine, and the problem may lie with > > the burner or media. > > If you want to check the iso before burning, just run md5sum on it: > > md5sum ubuntu-7.04-whatever.iso > > , then compare to the appropriate md5sum at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes . There's no need to > mount it. Certainly, that will ensure that the ISO downloaded correctly. But it wouldn't necessarily diagnose Ari's problem. The goal I was attempting to achieve was to check if the contents of the ISO were built correctly. The symptom that Ari was describing was that one file was failing its md5sum after being burnt. I was suggesting that he make sure that the files inside the ISO were OK before being burnt. > Matthew Flaschen > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 01:41:16 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:41:16 +0100 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit : > Hi there, > > I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset > that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a > big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that > Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. > > So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the > Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at > KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of > software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for > a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So > to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it > 's a problem of integration. > > So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression > about this integration thing. > > PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in > development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. > > Well, here goes some videos KDE on Kubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. KDE on Mandriva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlTXngBXkY I pointed the differences (menu and password) . Note that I have a lot of applications installed onto Mandriva and the menu is still usable. Try to do that with kubuntu :) . ps : wait a little , the videos aren't ready yet :( ( That's Youtube. Google video has also a bad side, it shrinks too much my videos ) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 02:04:23 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:04:23 -0500 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit : >> Hi there, >> >> I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset >> that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a >> big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that >> Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. >> >> So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the >> Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at >> KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of >> software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for >> a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So >> to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it >> 's a problem of integration. >> >> So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression >> about this integration thing. >> >> PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in >> development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. >> >> > > Well, here goes some videos > > KDE on Kubuntu > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ > > I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or > isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. What do you mean? > > KDE on Mandriva > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlTXngBXkY > > I pointed the differences (menu and password) . Note that I have a lot > of applications installed onto Mandriva and the menu is still usable. > Try to do that with kubuntu :) . The menu looks over-complex, but neat. I don't really care, though. Also, the classical music kinda biases things, doesn't it. :) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 25 01:37:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:37:21 -0400 Subject: How do I discover what package provides a certain file? References: <77520bee0702231836w22b07937j18e5d3cc49f8c8c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Eric Dunbar a écrit : >> 1. Anyone know how to easily search the files installed by packages? > > # Set up apt-file > apt-get intall apt-file > apt-file update > > # Search for my_file > apt-file search my_file Also "dlocate", which uses the locate database to find a file, then tells you what package installed it (apt-file can tell you what package has a file that you don't even have on your system). > >> 2. Second though, anyone know how to use apt-get et al. to search for >> packages (like yum find xyz)? aptitude can do it but I really don't >> like its interface (its user interface could handle a major overhaul Well, the CLI is pretty much the same as apt-get, so why would you want to? One thing apt-get doesn't do though is: aptitude search package (how difficult was that?) >> -- the irony is that it's designed so people don't have to fiddle with >> apt-get but it's designed for people who read man pages and memorise >> commands ;-)... exactly the crowd who don't need something like >> aptitude ;-P) I'm part of that crowd, and always use aptitude rather than any of the other package tools. > apt-cache search regex It _is_ better than aptitude imo - aptitude's search can do some things that apt-cache can't (like searching for "New" packages, Manually installed (or not), etc, but that stuff requires checking the man page every time :-) The default search by apt-cache is more inclusive than the default by aptitude. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 25 01:46:47 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:46:47 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <7d67b4-ijb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> No, that would satisfy Microsoft, but Canadian law doesn't have the same >> sorts of restrictions that US law has (as the RIAA and others have been >> complaining). We don't have legal support for DRM, and we have >> _explicit_ rights to copy audio and video recordings (that we own) for >> our personal >> use. While I don't know of case law to back up the use of software in a >> situation like this, it's certainly analogous and I feel on very safe >> ground to assume I'd win if MS wanted to try to take me to a Canadian >> court. After all, I haven't made more copies of the software than MS's >> EULA tells me I can make AND I'm running it on exactly the same hardware. > > Well, then you may try to call MS and let them reactivate your windows > installation. I could - I have seen some people had success with that but there are two issues. > > I did this with a winXP home that came with my computer and now runs on > top of Linux in VMware. I did not have a problem with explaining to the > microsoft hotline that I "slightly downgraded" my existing hardware and > that the system now cries for activation, once again. > But well, this was/is in Germany and I do not know how they handle this > elsewhere. The real problem is that I am currently having hardware trouble with the Dell (two months so far to get my "next day in-home service!), and I know I'd damn well better have a working physical Windows OS or they'll blame Linux (if I ever get them to deal with it in the first place). So if I got MS to give me a key that worked in the VM, my key for the physical copy wouldn't strictly be valid - and it would try to check eventually. The other problem is that I have a phone phobia :-) -- derek From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 02:18:58 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:18:58 +0800 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/25/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit : > > Hi there, > > > > I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset > > that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a > > big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that > > Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. > > > > So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the > > Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at > > KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of > > software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for > > a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So > > to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it > > 's a problem of integration. > > > > So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression > > about this integration thing. > > > > PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in > > development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. > > > > > > Well, here goes some videos > > KDE on Kubuntu > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ > > I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or > isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. > > KDE on Mandriva > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlTXngBXkY > > I pointed the differences (menu and password) . Note that I have a lot > of applications installed onto Mandriva and the menu is still usable. > Try to do that with kubuntu :) . > > ps : wait a little , the videos aren't ready yet :( ( That's Youtube. > Google video has also a bad side, it shrinks too much my videos ) > > This is so cool!, amazing, big difference, I think Mandriva version had a MenuRevisted spec. But Kubuntu has got the nice new control center. > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 02:23:45 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:23:45 +0100 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen a écrit : > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit : >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset >>> that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a >>> big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that >>> Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. >>> >>> So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the >>> Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at >>> KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of >>> software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for >>> a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So >>> to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it >>> 's a problem of integration. >>> >>> So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression >>> about this integration thing. >>> >>> PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in >>> development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. >>> >>> >> Well, here goes some videos >> >> KDE on Kubuntu >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ >> >> I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or >> isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. > > What do you mean? > Well, my first problem was all the parenthesis in the menu. they make it heavy (i think) . If they could make just like in Ubuntu, choose a set of software and not put the name of the software before its function. Secondly, under each category, there are softwares that I can understand are related to that category but still ... There shouldn't be configuration/Administration tools mixed with desktop software. The system setting panel should be used to clean up the desktop menu from administrative tools. >> KDE on Mandriva >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlTXngBXkY >> >> I pointed the differences (menu and password) . Note that I have a lot >> of applications installed onto Mandriva and the menu is still usable. >> Try to do that with kubuntu :) . > > The menu looks over-complex, but neat. I don't really care, though. > Also, the classical music kinda biases things, doesn't it. :) > > Matthew Flaschen > LOL, I can swear I didn't make it on purpose :) .In fact I hate Mandriva (not the distribution itself but the spirit of the developers team) I won't explain why exactly :) From lachlan.simpson at wilderness.org.au Sun Feb 25 02:28:13 2007 From: lachlan.simpson at wilderness.org.au (Lachlan Musicman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:28:13 +1100 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24261cd0702241828r60db9316j7be2c5ab2ddc4373@mail.gmail.com> I just did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list, then :%s/edgy/feisty/g, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade plenty of stuff broke, similar issues with the ATI card (no X, dumped to command line), missing themes etc. Is ok, but I also recommend staying with edgy until more stability is available L. On 2/24/07, golfer wrote: > On 2/23/07, Erik Schmidt wrote: > > is there a special way to upgrade from edgy to feisty, like, by using > > edgy, or do I have to boot from cd to install it? > > It's probably too early to try an upgrade, unless you can risk having > a broken system for a while. I installed hurd 4, and then could not > get my ati graphics working for several days until I got all the > updates installed. Also, my usb modem is now disonnecting due to > kernel problems. Needless to say, if you have to have a working > system, you'd better stick with edgy for now. > > But, for testers, you can probably just change the sources.list to > point to feisty. Here's the one that came with hurd 4: > > <<<<<<<< /etc/apt/sources.list for feisty hurd 4 >>>>>>>>>> > # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to > # newer versions of the distribution. > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted > #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted > > ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the > ## distribution. > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted > #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security > ## team. > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe > # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as > ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes > ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. > ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review > ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. > # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted > #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe > # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- READ CAREFULLY. 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You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. http://www.ReasonableAgreement.org From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 02:31:17 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:31:17 -0500 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E0F4F5.5010906@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Matthew Flaschen a écrit : >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >>> Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit : >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> I have tried kubuntu this afternoon, and I got pretty upset, so upset >>>> that I downloaded Mandriva 2007 to see the difference and ... There is a >>>> big gap between the two kde integration. After I finish installing that >>>> Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. >>>> >>>> So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the >>>> Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at >>>> KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of >>>> software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for >>>> a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So >>>> to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it >>>> 's a problem of integration. >>>> >>>> So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression >>>> about this integration thing. >>>> >>>> PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in >>>> development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. >>>> >>>> >>> Well, here goes some videos >>> >>> KDE on Kubuntu >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ >>> >>> I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or >>> isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. >> What do you mean? >> > > Well, my first problem was all the parenthesis in the menu. they make it > heavy (i think) . If they could make just like in Ubuntu, choose a set > of software and not put the name of the software before its function. > > Secondly, under each category, there are softwares that I can understand > are related to that category but still ... There shouldn't be > configuration/Administration tools mixed with desktop software. > > The system setting panel should be used to clean up the desktop menu > from administrative tools. Thanks, but I really meant about the password. > LOL, I can swear I didn't make it on purpose :) . Okay, but that's classic marketing. :) In fact I hate Mandriva > (not the distribution itself but the spirit of the developers team) I > won't explain why exactly :) I'm actually using gnewsense-kde (http://www.gnewsense.org/), which is Ubuntu without unfree software, for similar reasons. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tommy.trussell at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 03:58:15 2007 From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:58:15 -0600 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > > the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > > want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > > choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > > I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. uh... Did you try gThumb image viewer as I suggested? It crops quite nicely. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 21:19:26 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:19:26 +0100 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: Nicolai Spohrer a écrit : > Hello guys. > I played with my fonts in kcontrol and so (I use gnome...) and deleted > the file ~/.fonts-config. Maybe I changed something else, too. I don't > really know. But now gnome does not want to start anymore for my primary > user. It works perfectly with my other user-account. And KDE works for > my primary account at the moment. Problem: > I enter username/password in GDM (changed my theme), press "Enter" and > my screen becomes blue - so far, so okay (that's usual). But then I hear > the usual gnome drums and my desktop freezes. Nothing happens > anymore.The screen stays absolutely blue. I can use the TTYs and so. > Reboot does not help. I have some backups but I do not really want to > use them. And that may not be such a big problem (I hope...). > > Can anybody help me? > > greetings... > > That's weird, I can't find any ".fonts-config" in my home dir :/ From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 06:41:44 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:41:44 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <77520bee0702242241r115bee35q49a3c17a2766b7e9@mail.gmail.com> On 23/02/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > > > >> I admit I'm not [a lawyer], but my reading of Canadian law tells me I'm > >> very > >> well within my rights to use an OEM licensed version of Windows on the > >> same hardware for which that license was issued. > > > > I don't think so. Perhaps if you used Microsoft Virtual PC? > > No, that would satisfy Microsoft, but Canadian law doesn't have the same > sorts of restrictions that US law has (as the RIAA and others have been > complaining). We don't have legal support for DRM, and we have _explicit_ > rights to copy audio and video recordings (that we own) for our personal > use. While I don't know of case law to back up the use of software in a > situation like this, it's certainly analogous and I feel on very safe > ground to assume I'd win if MS wanted to try to take me to a Canadian > court. After all, I haven't made more copies of the software than MS's > EULA tells me I can make AND I'm running it on exactly the same hardware. If the terms of the EULA are not explicitly prohibited by law I suspect they will stand if MS could take you to court. If you're running your OEM install of Windows as a private individual without running a second "instance" or having a second install I doubt they'd waste their time on a court case, but, if you were a business trying to get around the restrictions of the EULA[1] then that would be an entirely different kettle of fish and they probably would send you a stern letter. [1] Although restrictions on EULA may seem onerous there is some justifiable and reasonable logic to them -- oftentimes the OEM installs of Windows or other software (whether MS or 3rd party) are provided to the manufacturer at a deep discount which in turn allows the end user to get the OS/software much cheaper than they otherwise would. Consider the cost of a stand-alone versions of Word or Windows XP (when new)/Vista -- combine the two and a non-academic user could pay upwards of $500+ if they were bought separate from a computer. On many i86 PCs you'll get the whole PC for well under $1000, including a Windows OS (which does not net MS much in terms of sales since they don't get a cut of the hardware like Apple does, for e.g.), and, sometimes (as was the case for a friend) Word. From sepheebear at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 06:45:41 2007 From: sepheebear at gmail.com (Seth Hasani) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:45:41 -0500 Subject: Sound detection for LAMP server In-Reply-To: <45E0D1CC.8000502@dallypost.com> References: <45E0D1CC.8000502@dallypost.com> Message-ID: On 2/24/07, Lance Earl wrote: > I will be using this server to stream mp3 files with Icecast and MPD. > When I start MPD, it complains about not finding the sound card. I am > wondering if Dapper LAMP does not install sound support. If this is the > case, how can I get it installed? I think you'd do good to check the mpd manpage or ask the folks at #mpd on freenode about how to correctly stream to icecast. Basically you need to set mpd's audio out to type "shout" on localhost with a stream name and the correct port. Seth -- Sex is not the original sin, guilt is. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 06:56:04 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:56:04 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> On 24/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: > On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > > > the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > > > want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > > > choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > > > > I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > > uh... Did you try gThumb image viewer as I suggested? It crops quite > nicely. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. Sorry, the context was not properly articulated. ... should have been... in the apps where it was needed (OO.org and Abiword) it wasn't an option to crop effectively (or at all) and that's where the functionality was needed. Jumping to another app was an onerous step when (ugh) Word could do it cleanly and with no fuss whatsoever. Anyway, I suspect (hope) that somone's working on a functional crop for OO.org. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 07:02:31 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:02:31 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <45E0ABC1.2040405@gatech.edu> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E0ABC1.2040405@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <77520bee0702242302p7f2de27bi87e360eb9f224cae@mail.gmail.com> On 24/02/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > > Recently I was trying to use only FLOSS to set up a file (so that I > > knew I could tell some students it was possible). I tried OO.org, > > Abiword and GIMP and ended up firing up MS Word because the FL/OSS > > couldn't manage to present an intuitive cropping facility. GIMP could > > but it was nowhere quick, Abiword and OO.org simply couldn't manage it > > (I think one of the two offered an interface that you could TYPE in > > some constraints but this is 2007, NOT 1984!!!). > > That's apparently OO (even in Draw), which I agree is a major > deficiency. It's a known bug > (http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=19665) > > > Anyway, my encounter with OO.org and Abiword wasn't all bad. OO.org is > > as oversized as Word without some of the more useful pieces of Word > > (most notably Word compatibility ;-) > > The compatibility has usually worked for me. What problems have you had? I have avoided using OO.org for anything more than ultra-basic word processing (and, once when I was upgrading OS X 10.3 to 10.4 ;-) so I have limited experience with it, but when I have tried moving files I created in OO.org to Word I've had poor luck with fonts, margins and especially graphics (graphics when coming from Word). This isn't necessarily a knock on OO.org since, if you don't need to exchange docs with Word users it's a moot point, but, since I do most of my work in Word and 90% of real-life users I know use Word (the other 10% mostly use Apple/ClarisWorks and a precious few WordPerfect) 100% compatibility is vitally important. In time either OO.org will either get better at handling Word or else people will start using open standards for their word processing documents (I expect the former will happen before the latter :-(. Eric. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 07:11:26 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:11:26 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702242302p7f2de27bi87e360eb9f224cae@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E0ABC1.2040405@gatech.edu> <77520bee0702242302p7f2de27bi87e360eb9f224cae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E1369E.5040901@gatech.edu> Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 24/02/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Eric Dunbar wrote: >>> I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. >>> Recently I was trying to use only FLOSS to set up a file (so that I >>> knew I could tell some students it was possible). I tried OO.org, >>> Abiword and GIMP and ended up firing up MS Word because the FL/OSS >>> couldn't manage to present an intuitive cropping facility. GIMP could >>> but it was nowhere quick, Abiword and OO.org simply couldn't manage it >>> (I think one of the two offered an interface that you could TYPE in >>> some constraints but this is 2007, NOT 1984!!!). >> That's apparently OO (even in Draw), which I agree is a major >> deficiency. It's a known bug >> (http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=19665) >> >>> Anyway, my encounter with OO.org and Abiword wasn't all bad. OO.org is >>> as oversized as Word without some of the more useful pieces of Word >>> (most notably Word compatibility ;-) >> The compatibility has usually worked for me. What problems have you had? > > 100% > compatibility is vitally important. It's also very difficult since Word format is poorly documented. I haven't had many problems, but that could just be because I don't use sophisticated formatting. > In time either OO.org will either get better at handling Word This will happen. It helps that Office Open XML is better documented (thanks to pressure from OpenDocument; it's still meant to be MS-specific) than any prior Word format. or else > people will start using open standards for their word processing > documents (I expect the former will happen before the latter :-(. Hopefully the latter will happen in time though. :) Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Sat Feb 24 16:14:52 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:14:52 -0600 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel><00c001c75807$3f75d250$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1172317055.7595.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <006301c7582f$2267be80$6400e40a@stellaluna> >> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: >>> In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a >>> requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it >>> implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have >>> to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but >>> to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a >>> Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95. > Dave Grundgeiger wrote: >> So, if a piece of software says "512MB minimum RAM" as a requirement and >> I >> run it in 256MB, then I'm running it illegally? Duncan Lithgow wrote: > There is a difference between the text of an EULA and a > manual/readme/system requirements specifying what hardware/software > you'll 'require' for it to run. The latter is what I took Jeffery to mean, as I don't recall ever seeing the operating system specified in an application's EULA (though I don't ever do more than skim them). I found a page on Microsoft's site called "Find License Terms for Software Licensed from Microsoft" (http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx). I looked at the license terms for Office 2007 and SharePoint Portal Server 2003 just to pick two. A text search didn't find the word "Windows" in either license. Dave From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 08:54:18 2007 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:54:18 -0600 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: <45E0F4F5.5010906@gatech.edu> References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E0F4F5.5010906@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0702250054m26073b75y7a9ce1bab777898e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/24/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > I'm actually using gnewsense-kde (http://www.gnewsense.org/), which is > Ubuntu without unfree software, for similar reasons. I never understood this distribution. Don't you get the same thing by removing linux-restricted-modules-*? Then just disable the restricted repository. I suppose I can see someone's motivation for *using* it, but I can't understand putting so much work into making a derivative distribution just to remove 2 packages and disable one repository. Seems rather silly to me. -- Chris memes don't exist -- tell your friends From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 10:23:23 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:23:23 +0800 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 2/25/07, Nicolai Spohrer wrote: > Hello guys. > I played with my fonts in kcontrol and so (I use gnome...) and deleted > the file ~/.fonts-config. Maybe I changed something else, too. I don't > really know. But now gnome does not want to start anymore for my primary > user. It works perfectly with my other user-account. And KDE works for > my primary account at the moment. Problem: > I enter username/password in GDM (changed my theme), press "Enter" and > my screen becomes blue - so far, so okay (that's usual). But then I hear > the usual gnome drums and my desktop freezes. Nothing happens > anymore.The screen stays absolutely blue. I can use the TTYs and so. > Reboot does not help. I have some backups but I do not really want to > use them. And that may not be such a big problem (I hope...). > > Can anybody help me? > > greetings... > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > hmm, try this, if it's a font-config problem dpkg-reconfigure -plow fontconfig-config or just move .gnome, .gnome2, .nautilus, .gconf, .gconfd, .config to a backup directory. -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Feb 25 10:24:35 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:24:35 +1100 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <24261cd0702241828r60db9316j7be2c5ab2ddc4373@mail.gmail.com> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> <24261cd0702241828r60db9316j7be2c5ab2ddc4373@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070225212435.3b07c045.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:28:13 +1100 "Lachlan Musicman" wrote: > I just did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list, then :%s/edgy/feisty/g, > sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade > > plenty of stuff broke, similar issues with the ATI card (no X, dumped > to command line), missing themes etc. "Go back, you are going the wrong way" ;-) First error: it's " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " for a distro upgrade from one version to another ( Edgy --> Feisty ) Second error: This method is now deprecated. At the least you should have used aptitude: " sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade " Third error: You should have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades ;-) Which among other useful information, suggests re-running the dist-upgrade a second time, running sudo apt-get -f install etc etc.... It also suggests running gksu mkdir /root/.gnupg and gksu "update-manager -d" So, sounds like you gave yourself minimal chances of success ;-) Peter From g_sauthoff at web.de Sun Feb 25 11:06:46 2007 From: g_sauthoff at web.de (Georg Sauthoff) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output References: Message-ID: On 2007-02-25, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: Hi, > if your going to use #!/bin/sh, you need to explicitly define your syntax. > for example in bash this is fine. > if [ -z $MY_CONDITION ]; then > foo > fi > but in dash, it's not. > you'll have to put the semicolon delimiter on every command. really? Then dash is not IEEE Std 1003.1 compliant? Because http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_10 defines newline as a valid command separator. Best regards Georg Sauthoff From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sun Feb 25 11:29:09 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (Nicolai Spohrer) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:29:09 +0100 Subject: Yet another big gnome problem (YABGP) In-Reply-To: References: <45E0A90F.4050000@gmx.de> Message-ID: <45E17305.5000301@gmx.de> Joel Bryan Juliano schrieb: > dpkg-reconfigure -plow fontconfig-config > > or just move .gnome, .gnome2, .nautilus, .gconf, .gconfd, .config to a > backup directory. Hm... Veery strange! I moved those folders to anothers yesterday and it didn't work. Now after a reboot it worked well. I moved back all those folders - and it still works! Puh, that's good.... Thank you all for replying :) greetings! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After I finish installing that >>>> >>>> Mandriva on a VM I'll try to make a video and post it here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So my point is, When I look at Gnome on Ubuntu, I can *Feel the >>>> >>>> Desktop*, designed to be clean an easy to see and use. When I look at >>>> >>>> KDE on kubuntu, I feel like they just installed KDE and a bunch of >>>> >>>> software and *basta* . So I first thought " Geez, how did I used KDE for >>>> >>>> a so long time when I was on Mandriva ? Did kde changes that much ?". So >>>> >>>> to check my impression out I retried Mandriva, and I can realize now, it >>>> >>>> 's a problem of integration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So now I come to you, and just want to know what are your impression >>>> >>>> about this integration thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> PS: Maybe it was because I tried with Feisty which is still in >>>> >>>> development. I'm downloading Edgy to check. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Well, here goes some videos >>> >>> >>> >>> KDE on Kubuntu >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYD2ZOrOcQ >>> >>> >>> >>> I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or >>> >>> isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. >> >> What do you mean? >> >> > > > > Well, my first problem was all the parenthesis in the menu. they make it > > heavy (i think) . If they could make just like in Ubuntu, choose a set > > of software and not put the name of the software before its function. > > > > Secondly, under each category, there are softwares that I can understand > > are related to that category but still ... There shouldn't be > > configuration/Administration tools mixed with desktop software. > > > > The system setting panel should be used to clean up the desktop menu > > from administrative tools. > Thanks, but I really meant about the password. Ah, sorry. Well, after I just installed it, as you can see in the video , if I want to do administrative maintenance on my computer, I'll will have to type my password dozens of times . When I install ubuntu and I want to do the same thing, just one time is enough (the system keeps the password for a certain amount of time. To get rid of that irritation Kubuntu should just propose by default an option that keeps the password for an amount of time. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 11:45:53 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:45:53 -0500 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: <143f0f6c0702250054m26073b75y7a9ce1bab777898e@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E0F4F5.5010906@gatech.edu> <143f0f6c0702250054m26073b75y7a9ce1bab777898e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E176F1.8040009@gatech.edu> Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On 2/24/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> I'm actually using gnewsense-kde (http://www.gnewsense.org/), which is >> Ubuntu without unfree software, for similar reasons. > > I never understood this distribution. Don't you get the same thing by > removing linux-restricted-modules-*? No, the linux kernel itself has unfree software, and there's a bit of unfree software in the universe repository. See http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Features, http://www.gnewsense.org/Universe/Universe , and http://www.gnewsense.org/FAQ/FAQ . Then just disable the restricted > repository. I suppose I can see someone's motivation for *using* it, > but I can't understand putting so much work into making a derivative > distribution just to remove 2 packages and disable one repository. It's more work than that. They actually had to dig through the kernel sources (partially automatically) and decided to rebrand Firefox (to avoid Mozilla trademark rules). Also, Ubuntu is trending towards *more* proprietary software by adding Click & Run (which distinguishes itself from other repositories mainly through distributing proprietary software) and in the future possibly more proprietary video drivers. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 12:22:50 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:22:50 +0800 Subject: Printing. Message-ID: <1172406170.15130.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> So, I've gone to linuxprinting.org (now openprinting.org). I've run off a copy of every printer that's rated as working 100% under Linux. I go out hunting. Five hours later I find... nothing. I find a frustrating number of "near misses", though. For example the HP Deskjet D1368. The D1360 is listed as fully functional and HP lists the 60 and 68 together with a few other models as the D1300 Series. So... the question I'm asking myself (of this and the D2368 as well) is: if the 1360 (of 2360) is listed, but the 1311, 1320, 1330, 1341 and 1368 are not, despite all of them being the "D1300 Series" (similar line of models for the "D2360 Series"), can I assume that the 1368 will, in fact, work? Or am I getting ready to burn money? -- Michael T. Richter Disclaimer: Any people who think that opinions expressed from my private email account in any way, shape or form are those of my employer have more lawyers at their beck and call than they do brain cells. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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("Any printer" is not quite accurate though) TurboPrint is a decent offering - I bought it because I refuse to carry a printer with me, and I am constantly moving my laptop around connecting to various printers (some of which remain unsupported natively) and TurboPrint allows me to connect to just about all of them without any problems. I wish that TurboPrint was an opensource, or at least free package - but, developers have to eat and feed their families :) So, I dont mind temporarily supporting a closed source package. I have found that most closed-source linux developers eventually open source their work and then just develop a "premium" version of their product, or simply make money from offering tech support. Hopefully this is the future for TurboPrint. On 2/25/07, Michael T. Richter wrote: > > So, I've gone to linuxprinting.org (now openprinting.org). I've run off > a copy of every printer that's rated as working 100% under Linux. I go out > hunting. Five hours later I find... nothing. > > I find a frustrating number of "near misses", though. For example the HP > Deskjet D1368. The D1360 is listed as fully functional and HP lists the 60 > and 68 together with a few other models as the D1300 Series. So... the > question I'm asking myself (of this and the D2368 as well) is: if the 1360 > (of 2360) is listed, but the 1311, 1320, 1330, 1341 and 1368 are not, > despite all of them being the "D1300 Series" (similar line of models for the > "D2360 Series"), can I assume that the 1368 will, in fact, work? Or am I > getting ready to burn money? > > -- > Michael T. Richter > *Disclaimer:* *Any people who think that opinions expressed from my > private email account in any way, shape or form are those of my employer > have more lawyers at their beck and call than they do brain cells.* > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 13:34:06 2007 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:34:06 +0800 Subject: Printing. In-Reply-To: References: <1172406170.15130.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1172410446.15130.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-25-02 at 07:45 -0500, Shawn McCuan wrote: > Most, and again I emphasize *most*, HP printers work flawlessly with > Linux for general usage. You may however be unable to use certain > advanced features that you are used to in Windows...but, for basic > every day printing of things like documents, letters, invoices, > envelopes, spreadsheets, emails, HP is normally an excellent > solution. That is, in fact, my intended use 95%+ of the time. For the remaining 5% I'm willing to go to a print shop. And digging a bit deeper it seems that the 1368 is basically the same as the other 13xx models in all regards that matter to me, so I'm going with that one or, possibly, the Epson Stylus C67 which can be supported, according to various sources, by the drivers for the C64 or C68 *AND* has downloadable drivers from the Epson home page directly (as does the other prospect: the Epson Stylus C65). So sometime tomorrow I'll have a new printer to whine and complain about here! :D Yay me! -- Michael T. Richter Disclaimer: Any people who think that opinions expressed from my private email account in any way, shape or form are those of my employer have more lawyers at their beck and call than they do brain cells. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smiley-1.png Type: image/png Size: 798 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Sun Feb 25 14:00:06 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:00:06 -0500 Subject: Strange.... In-Reply-To: <45E0A7A9.8090507@gatech.edu> References: <1172255635.11732.11.camel@ubuntu> <45DF46BE.7010606@rick-net.com> <45DF7A89.9030400@gatech.edu> <1172329122.6254.23.camel@ubuntu> <45E0A7A9.8090507@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172412006.5008.5.camel@ubuntu> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 16:01 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > The enigma wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 18:36 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Scott Sweeny wrote: > >>>> What's up, Scott. > >>>> > >>>> I wasn't on the web at all. I happened to be using Mozilla Sunbird > >>>> calendar. I don't know if that had anything to do with that message box from > >>>> Netscape, or not. I wasn't directly trying to access the web. Really weird! > >>>> It's almost like they wanted to setup a file of some kind, on my machine to > >>>> send them error logs. (???) > >>>> -- > >>>> Rick D. > >>> Hey Rick, > >>> A couple more questions: > >>> 1. Was Sunbird by any chance crashing or producing an error that you know of? > >>> 2. Have you ever had official (branded) Netscape software installed on > >>> that machine? > >>> > >>> This sounds like some sort of crash recovery system. If the dialog > >>> pops up again, maybe a screenshot or exact quote of the text could > >>> help too. Or maybe if you could try and reproduce it intentionally. > >> Mozilla is of course based on Netscape, and it has a Talkback crash > >> reporting system. I've never had it come up on Sunbird, but it's > >> possible that Sunbird does have it, and they forgot to take out some > >> mention of Netscape. > >> > >> Matthew Flaschen > >> > > > > Matthew, > > Yeah Mozilla is based on Netscape, that's probably where that came from. > > There wasn't any crash on my system, thought. I just didn't like not > > being able to close out of it with out having to respond to it, even > > though I chose "no", know what I mean? > > Yes, it is strange, and it brings back bad memories of Windows, where > all the windows are modular. What version of Sunbird are you running. > I'm using .3 . > > Matthew Flaschen > > I'm running Sunbird version 0.3.1. You wouldn't happen to know of a good firewall for Ubuntu, would you? I'm using autofw, and I wrote a script that I bash at root to start. I'm not sure what it's "buying" me though. Do I need a firewall with Linux, if I'm running it as a client through a high speed connection ISP? -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From wade at wadesmart.com Sun Feb 25 14:07:06 2007 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:06 -0600 Subject: SpamAssassin - the actual junk mail Message-ID: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> 02252007 0806 GMT-6 One of the things I really liked about Thunderbird (Im on Evolution now) is that when the junk mail was detected, it was moved into its own folder. Now that Im on a imap setup using evolution, I just installed spamassassin and Im wondering, where is that junk mail? How can I train it? wade From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 25 14:32:04 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:32:04 +0000 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <20070225212435.3b07c045.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> <24261cd0702241828r60db9316j7be2c5ab2ddc4373@mail.gmail.com> <20070225212435.3b07c045.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <45E19DE4.5020208@yandex.ru> Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:28:13 +1100 > "Lachlan Musicman" wrote: > >> I just did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list, then :%s/edgy/feisty/g, >> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade >> >> plenty of stuff broke, similar issues with the ATI card (no X, dumped >> to command line), missing themes etc. > Of course it broke, for a start you should be doing "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" and again for a second time to be sure *not* "aptitude upgrade". It is generally recommended if you are running gnome to press alt+f2 and run the command: "gksu upgrade-manager -c -d" Upgrade-manager has been tuned specifically for dealing with distro upgrades and might yield better results. I had a dapper machine which I wanted to get up to speed with feisty, so tried to upgrade to edgy but the entire system was trashed. Ended up installing feisty from a CD of a nightly build, copied back my config files (e.g. samba, vsftpd) and I was in feisty. Its actually much quicker and hassle free to just do a clean install. Provided you have /home on a seperate partition! From dick.dowdell at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 14:44:00 2007 From: dick.dowdell at gmail.com (Dick Dowdell) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:44:00 -0500 Subject: SpamAssassin - the actual junk mail In-Reply-To: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> References: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Why don't you continue to use Thunderbird? On 2/25/07, Wade Smart wrote: > > 02252007 0806 GMT-6 > > One of the things I really liked about Thunderbird (Im on Evolution now) > is that when the junk mail was detected, it was moved into its own > folder. Now that Im on a imap setup using evolution, I just installed > spamassassin and Im wondering, where is that junk mail? How can I train > it? > > wade > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Regards, Dick Dowdell 508-498-7919 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grey at dmiyu.org Sun Feb 25 14:50:48 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:50:48 -0800 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45E1A248.3050705@dmiyu.org> David B Teague wrote: > But that doesn't work well when the spam is in an image with innocuous > text in addition to the image. The innocuous text confuses the Baysean > data base, making the tool ineffective. Hardly ineffective. Maybe not as effective as you like but that doesn't mean it is ineffective. I have TBird's Bayesian filter turned on and it catches stuff that passes through Spamassassin's filters. I have SA tuned *tight*. > I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the whitelist. Er, no, very rude idea. The short form is simple, you're foisting the work of filtering your mail off on hundreds if not thousands of other people. Furthermore, having seen the mail queues that C/R generates, it is hell on mail severs. Imagine several dozen thousand challenges and bounces to spam sitting, undeliverable, in a queue. *shudder* But for a longer version here is an excellent page describing the many problems with C/R: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mback99 at glocalnet.net Sun Feb 25 15:00:03 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:00:03 +0100 Subject: No gnome, gaim and java sound Message-ID: <1172415603.11215.3.camel@mb-laptop> My sound system is working. I can play mp3s and webradio.. but no event sounds in gnome and no sound in gaim. The sound in the java online-game I play first worked but now isn't. Something needs to be tweaked, I suspect... From i4gott at verizon.net Sun Feb 25 15:50:27 2007 From: i4gott at verizon.net (elaine) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:50:27 -0600 Subject: attachment. wierd. Message-ID: <200702250950.27349.i4gott@verizon.net> see attached. have been unable to send to above address. keep coming back to me. -------------- next part -------------- system file From cwcrei at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 25 16:10:19 2007 From: cwcrei at yahoo.co.uk (CwCrei) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:10:19 +0000 Subject: DNQs: SMP and package list. Message-ID: <45E1B4EB.4080705@yahoo.co.uk> Hi folks! DNQ = Dumb Newbie Questions. I'm an Ubuntu newcomer, and pretty much a Linux newbie too. I've just installed a couple of Dapper LAMP servers, and have added things like SSH and Samba (the latter of which I have still to figure out how to set up properly). I'm very pleased with things so far... However, both installs have been on dual processor machines, so I need to install SMP kernels to get the best out of them - can you advise on the best way to go about this? Can you also tell me where to find a fairly easily readable list of packages available to the APT? Such a list would no doubt answer question one, too... :) Many thanks, Take care, PJ. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From i4gott at verizon.net Sun Feb 25 16:26:12 2007 From: i4gott at verizon.net (elaine) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:26:12 -0600 Subject: wierd event Message-ID: <200702251026.13577.i4gott@verizon.net> wierd event From: elaine To: ubuntu user technical support at ubuntu, not for general discussions Date: Today 9:51:15 am   on 2/24/07 was obtaining and initiating audiobook from gutenbergh project when audio was stopped and so noted at bottom of screen in kubuntu.   a package arrived, openen itself  ( screen and functions on screen are frozen and so are mouse functions and pointer. things open and close and function on their own and adept opens and there is activity, but not on screen. eventually control returns to screen and mouse. i attempt to reopen apt and am given one message then another [instructions to give command lines in terminal for attempting to restore, fix, or whatever apt....i.e.  apt-get; apt-setup;apt-install, etc.  to no avail.]   the log shows there was introduced a command to  REPO AUTOMATIX .   NOW ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO I NOTICED THAT AUTOMATIX 2 HAD MOVED IN POSITION  IN MENU AND HAD BECOME AUTOMATIX. NOW, POST THIS EPISODE, IT NO LONGER IS ON MENU AND WHENEVER I ATTEMPT TO UPGRADE,REPAIR, FIX, OR RECOVER ADEPT/APT FILES OR FUNCTIONS A MESSAGES DISPLAYED THAT STATES AUTOMATIX CANNOT BE FOUND AND APT CANNOT BE OPENED AS FRONT END IS NOT ABLE TO BE OPENED. IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT MIGHT HAVE A CLUE WHAT HAPPEN  ?   NOT ME. IDEAS PLEASE !  ! ALSO, I NOW HAVE PKGS. IN SYS TRAY. IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, THE MESSAGES SAY THERE IS NO METHOD TO OPEN THEM. my son-in-law set kubuntu up for me and said it is unbreakable and so you are getting it. i was happy. ...i am not telling him i am, BROKEN From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 16:33:51 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:33:51 -0500 Subject: DNQs: SMP and package list. In-Reply-To: <45E1B4EB.4080705@yahoo.co.uk> References: <45E1B4EB.4080705@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <45E1BA6F.7090507@gatech.edu> CwCrei wrote: > Hi folks! > > DNQ = Dumb Newbie Questions. > > I'm an Ubuntu newcomer, and pretty much a Linux newbie too. I've just > installed a couple of Dapper LAMP servers, and have added things like > SSH and Samba (the latter of which I have still to figure out > how to set up properly). I'm very pleased with things so far... > > However, both installs have been on dual processor machines, so I need > to install SMP kernels to get the best out of them - can you advise on > the best way to go about this? Install linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 > Can you also tell me where to find a fairly easily readable list of > packages available to the APT? Such a list would no doubt answer > question one, too... :) packages.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <45E1B4EB.4080705@yahoo.co.uk> <45E1BA6F.7090507@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF5590@nehemiah.joris2k.local> >-----Original Message----- >From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of >Matthew Flaschen >Sent: zondag 25 februari 2007 17:34 >To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions >Subject: Re: DNQs: SMP and package list. > >CwCrei wrote: >> Hi folks! >> >> DNQ = Dumb Newbie Questions. What's that? We should all start somewhere, isn't it? Rather questions than people who don't listen... >> I'm an Ubuntu newcomer, and pretty much a Linux newbie too. >I've just >> installed a couple of Dapper LAMP servers, and have added >things like >> SSH and Samba (the latter of which I have still to figure out how to >> set up properly). I'm very pleased with things so far... >> >> However, both installs have been on dual processor machines, >so I need >> to install SMP kernels to get the best out of them - can you >advise on >> the best way to go about this? > >Install linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 I believe there was a 'higher-level' package. linux-686-smp Seems in edgy it has become linux-generic. By default it seems it was linux-386 for compatibility with older systems. Don't know the details, but I think these are better, since they will update their dependancies to newer kernel revisions. Besides this you don't have to try any 'processor-specific' kernels. They are non-existing in Ubuntu any more. They favor a generic kernel for all systems (with good reasons imho). - Joris From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Feb 25 17:09:39 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:09:39 +0000 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E1C2D3.60607@tiscali.co.uk> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Well, my first problem was all the parenthesis in the menu. they make it > heavy (i think) . If they could make just like in Ubuntu, choose a set > of software and not put the name of the software before its function. Right-click on the panel. Choose "Configure Panel..." On the menu tree at the side choose "Menus". Top left in the main part of the dialogbox is a set of radio buttons to choose the style of menu format: Name only. Name (Description). Description only. Description (Name). I suspect you want the third choice... :@) Click "Apply" and "OK" to dismiss the dialogbox. HTH -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From sam.thurston at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 17:26:46 2007 From: sam.thurston at gmail.com (Samuel Thurston, III) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:26:46 -0600 Subject: [edgy] firefox segfault & beryl symbol lookup Message-ID: <4e8cc6b10702250926w75fdc940m9855ca32a6d94ab9@mail.gmail.com> Howdy gang, I did a long overdue update yesterday since I've been stuck using windows since my edgy partiton has been horked. firefox and beryl were upgraded and I have two spankin new problems: 1) firefox segfaults on startup. it is utterly unusuable at the moment. (how do i roll back to a previous version?) 2) beryl-manager leaves the following error messages when run from a terminal: beryl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce I noticed during the update that some libgl1 package was removed but didn't take close note of it. now none of my 3d games work either. So what do i need to (re?)install for this to work? On the upside, beryl team finally got the "fallback window manager" feature working so the beryl crash doesn't leave my machine useless until i reboot. From burner at suppressingfire.org Sun Feb 25 17:27:06 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:27:06 -0500 Subject: DNQs: SMP and package list. In-Reply-To: <45E1BA6F.7090507@gatech.edu> References: <45E1B4EB.4080705@yahoo.co.uk> <45E1BA6F.7090507@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172424427.14462.6.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 11:33 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > CwCrei wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > DNQ = Dumb Newbie Questions. > > > > I'm an Ubuntu newcomer, and pretty much a Linux newbie too. I've just > > installed a couple of Dapper LAMP servers, and have added things like > > SSH and Samba (the latter of which I have still to figure out > > how to set up properly). I'm very pleased with things so far... > > > > However, both installs have been on dual processor machines, so I need > > to install SMP kernels to get the best out of them - can you advise on > > the best way to go about this? > > Install linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 Right. the -686 packages are SMP enabled. The -386 packages are not. However, it's probably better to install linux-686 or linux-image-686 Since that will make sure you've got the latest with all the security fixes. > > Can you also tell me where to find a fairly easily readable list of > > packages available to the APT? Such a list would no doubt answer > > question one, too... :) > > packages.ubuntu.com Yup. http://packages.ubuntu.com is a great resource. mike -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How > can I train > it? > > wade > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > Regards, > Dick Dowdell > 508-498-7919 From diesch at spamfence.net Sun Feb 25 18:45:56 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:45:56 +0100 Subject: Alternatives to chkconfig In-Reply-To: (Joel Bryan Juliano's message of "Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:25:11 +0800") References: Message-ID: <87wt266pp7.fsf@spamfence.net> "Joel Bryan Juliano" wrote: > Debian systems and Ubuntu don't use chkconfig to enable/disable daemons, > Is there a chkconfig equivalent to enable/disable daemons? I don't know chkconfig. Maybe update-rc.d is what you're looking for. Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Sun Feb 25 18:25:11 2007 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:25:11 +0100 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> (Gabriel Dragffy's message of "Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:00:03 +0000") References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <871wke8588.fsf@spamfence.net> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > When I was using KDE, Kmail had an option to automatically rewrite the > messages headers and remove it. But months ago I switched to Gnome, and > more recently to OS X, and I can't find a way to rewrite messages > headers in Evolutions (when using Gnome) or Thunderbird (when using OS X). One option is to use fetchmail to fetch the mails from the server and procmail to deliver them to your local mailbox. Florian -- From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 18:10:10 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:10:10 +0800 Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/25/07, Georg Sauthoff wrote: > On 2007-02-25, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > Hi, > > > if your going to use #!/bin/sh, you need to explicitly define your syntax. > > > for example in bash this is fine. > > > if [ -z $MY_CONDITION ]; then > > foo > > fi > > > but in dash, it's not. > > you'll have to put the semicolon delimiter on every command. > > really? Then dash is not IEEE Std 1003.1 compliant? Because > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_10 > defines newline as a valid command separator. > > Best regards > Georg Sauthoff > > Yup, this is what I did to solve my problems with dash. No matter what, it _SOLVES_ the issue. > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 25 18:15:20 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:15:20 +0000 Subject: OBORONA-SPAM In-Reply-To: <871wke8588.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <34ae622a0702222026pedbc902xbdf02adf86675c@mail.gmail.com> <45DEDAE1.2080301@yandex.ru> <45DEDC3A.5020108@gatech.edu> <45DEE553.30303@yandex.ru> <871wke8588.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <45E1D238.3070400@yandex.ru> Florian Diesch wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> When I was using KDE, Kmail had an option to automatically rewrite the >> messages headers and remove it. But months ago I switched to Gnome, and >> more recently to OS X, and I can't find a way to rewrite messages >> headers in Evolutions (when using Gnome) or Thunderbird (when using OS X). > > One option is to use fetchmail to fetch the mails from the server and > procmail to deliver them to your local mailbox. > > > Florian Erm, sounds like a tasty solution as well as involved. Thank you for the suggestion, but at this time I won't. Besides my main computer is a macbook pro and I just use Thunderbird on it, I'm even going to imagine setting (and the headaches) fetchmail and procmail on here. Until Linux will play more nicely with Macs I can't change. Although I'd say I am considering wiping my mac and putting feisty on it because feisty is sweet. I just don't want to lose the functionality of the apple remote and backlit keyboard etc etc From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sun Feb 25 18:21:53 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (N. Spohrer) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:21:53 +0100 Subject: Grub does not want to boot my Ubuntu Message-ID: <45E1D3C1.8070507@gmx.de> Hello. I deleted some partitions with the ubuntu live-cd and the numbers for my ubuntu partitions changed. Grub didn't work. I booted with the live-cd, mounted my sda9 (ubuntu-/) and live-cd /dev into /mnt/ubuntu (dev in ./dev of course!). Then I chrooted into /mnt/ubuntu and mounted my extra sda6-/boot-Partition. Then I installed grub with grub-install /dev/sda And grub worked. But in the menu.lst still are the old partition-numbers and grub does not want to boot my Edgy. old: sda?=/boot sda9=/home sda11=/ new: sda6=/boot sda7=/home sda9=/ What shall I do? My windows still works (on sda2...). And in the chroot-environment "mount" says that -sda11 (which doesnt exist in /dev) is mounted on / (hmpf, owned...) -sda6 is mounted THREE times on /boot and my system seams rean-only (thats what nano and vim say...) I have (again^^) no idea what to do.... greetings (I'm not able to sign the message atm because I don't want to install enigmail on w**.) From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Sun Feb 25 18:25:01 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:25:01 +0000 Subject: linux friendly isp Message-ID: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> I am thinking of maybe changing my ISP as they seem to be constantly changing their home page and it seems to be getting less and less accessible for my screenreader ie when trying to access my mail folders to see if mail has been mistakenly marked as spam which sometimes happens on mailinglists I am subscribed to. What ISP would anyone suggest which is Linux friendly for distros like Ubuntu? Please be aware I live in the UK so it needs to be either UK based or have part of their operation in the UK and in this latter example that might cover AOL. From david at kosmosisland.com Sun Feb 25 18:27:16 2007 From: david at kosmosisland.com (David Koski) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:27:16 -0800 Subject: Alternatives to chkconfig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702251027.16397.david@kosmosisland.com> man apt-get enable: apt-get install disable: apt-get remove David On Saturday 24 February 2007 12:25, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Hi, > > Debian systems and Ubuntu don't use chkconfig to enable/disable daemons, > Is there a chkconfig equivalent to enable/disable daemons? > > Regards, > Joel > > -- > "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline > because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but > switched back to Windows. From wade at wadesmart.com Sun Feb 25 18:32:33 2007 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:32:33 -0600 Subject: linux friendly isp In-Reply-To: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> References: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1172428354.13363.26.camel@localhost> 02252007 1229 GMT-6 It seems to me you are talking about several things which do not have to do with one another. Your isp provides internet service. Their front page - you dont have to go to it. Set another page as your home page. If their email services are marking email as spam, go to your account settings either turn off spam filtering, turn down the filter strength, tell them your problem and see if they will help you out. As for linux friendly - that has no bearing - except for tech support. Its just a service. It works with all hardware. Who are you with? wade On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 18:25 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I am thinking of maybe changing my ISP as they seem to be constantly > changing their home page and it seems to be getting less and less > accessible for my screenreader ie when trying to access my mail folders > to see if mail has been mistakenly marked as spam which sometimes > happens on mailinglists I am subscribed to. > What ISP would anyone suggest which is Linux friendly for distros like > Ubuntu? > Please be aware I live in the UK so it needs to be either UK based or > have part of their operation in the UK and in this latter example that > might cover AOL. > From norman at littletank.org Sun Feb 25 18:42:43 2007 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:42:43 +0000 Subject: linux friendly isp In-Reply-To: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> References: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1172428963.4750.37.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 18:25 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I am thinking of maybe changing my ISP as they seem to be constantly > changing their home page and it seems to be getting less and less > accessible for my screenreader ie when trying to access my mail folders > to see if mail has been mistakenly marked as spam which sometimes > happens on mailinglists I am subscribed to. > What ISP would anyone suggest which is Linux friendly for distros like > Ubuntu? > Please be aware I live in the UK so it needs to be either UK based or > have part of their operation in the UK and in this latter example that > might cover AOL. I have used Pipex for almost 3 years and I am perfectly satisfied. Norman From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Sun Feb 25 18:48:04 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:48:04 +0000 Subject: linux friendly isp In-Reply-To: <1172428354.13363.26.camel@localhost> References: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> <1172428354.13363.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45E1D9E4.5080604@btinternet.com> At the moment I am with BT. Wade Smart wrote: > 02252007 1229 GMT-6 > > It seems to me you are talking about several things which do not have to > do with one another. > > Your isp provides internet service. > Their front page - you dont have to go to it. Set another page as your > home page. > If their email services are marking email as spam, go to your account > settings either turn off spam filtering, turn down the filter strength, > tell them your problem and see if they will help you out. > > As for linux friendly - that has no bearing - except for tech support. > Its just a service. It works with all hardware. > > Who are you with? > > wade > > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 18:25 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > >> I am thinking of maybe changing my ISP as they seem to be constantly >> changing their home page and it seems to be getting less and less >> accessible for my screenreader ie when trying to access my mail folders >> to see if mail has been mistakenly marked as spam which sometimes >> happens on mailinglists I am subscribed to. >> What ISP would anyone suggest which is Linux friendly for distros like >> Ubuntu? >> Please be aware I live in the UK so it needs to be either UK based or >> have part of their operation in the UK and in this latter example that >> might cover AOL. >> >> > > > From boredandblogging at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 19:01:59 2007 From: boredandblogging at gmail.com (n a) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:01:59 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <1172429432.30327.1176417535@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1172429432.30327.1176417535@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <954321e10702251101h47a1c79en4aa150d271cd9b49@mail.gmail.com> You can set the DEBIAN_FRONTEND environment variable to "noninteractive" so apt-get doesn't ask for user feedback. Scenario: 100-200 Ubuntu workstations, about 50/50 laptops / desktops. > Most of them used by several people. > > My thoughts: > > - A local package mirror (with apt-mirror or something) > - Test updates on a spare workstation before the updates are available > for the rest of the workstations. The X-server problem in Dapper last > summer is one example why I want to test updates first. > - With cron, a custom boot script or something like that run apt-get > update/dist-upgrade, but is it possible to do this without any feedback > at all from the user? > > Currently I just update all workstations 1-2 times a year when a new > Ubuntu version is released. I would like to be able to easily perform > security updates more frequently. > > Erling > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The X-server problem in Dapper last > > summer is one example why I want to test updates first. > > - With cron, a custom boot script or something like that run apt-get > > update/dist-upgrade, but is it possible to do this without any feedback > > at all from the user? > > > > Currently I just update all workstations 1-2 times a year when a new > > Ubuntu version is released. I would like to be able to easily perform > > security updates more frequently. > > > > Erling > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frederific at googlemail.com Sun Feb 25 19:16:37 2007 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:16:37 +0000 Subject: "On Top" button Message-ID: Hi there, One of the features I like best about Ubuntu over Windows, is that you can make any window on top. However, I would like a way to add a button to do it, next to the minimise/maximise/close buttons in the top right corner, so I don't have to click on the icon, then click on top. I have seen a screenshot[0] of gtkpod (not on Ubuntu) with this button, so it should be possible. Does anyone know how to get an "on top" button next to close/maximise/minimise in the top right? Thanks a lot Freddie :) [0]http://www.gtkpod.org/images/gtkpod_main02.png -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From ed.smits at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 19:28:04 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:28:04 -0500 Subject: linux friendly isp In-Reply-To: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> References: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Unless your ISP is providing lousy connectivity (slow, intermittent, expensive etc) stay where you are - open a gmail acc't and put a forward in your ISP mailbox directing any incoming mail to your new gmail acc't. On 2/25/07, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I am thinking of maybe changing my ISP as they seem to be constantly > changing their home page and it seems to be getting less and less > accessible for my screenreader ie when trying to access my mail folders > to see if mail has been mistakenly marked as spam which sometimes > happens on mailinglists I am subscribed to. > What ISP would anyone suggest which is Linux friendly for distros like > Ubuntu? > Please be aware I live in the UK so it needs to be either UK based or > have part of their operation in the UK and in this latter example that > might cover AOL. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 19:30:41 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:30:41 +0200 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702251130x54588df1s47bf5113430cf7ca@mail.gmail.com> On 25/02/07, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > Hi there, > > One of the features I like best about Ubuntu over Windows, is that you > can make any window on top. However, I would like a way to add a > button to do it, next to the minimise/maximise/close buttons in the > top right corner, so I don't have to click on the icon, then click on > top. I have seen a screenshot[0] of gtkpod (not on Ubuntu) with this > button, so it should be possible. > > Does anyone know how to get an "on top" button next to > close/maximise/minimise in the top right? > > Thanks a lot > > Freddie :) > > [0]http://www.gtkpod.org/images/gtkpod_main02.png > Try her belly button. If she's blonde, she will almost certainly crawl on top. From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 19:31:19 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:31:19 +0200 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702251131q7919bec1q7c0df5eb483e8bc@mail.gmail.com> Oops, sorry, wrong list :) From lsof at nodata.co.uk Sun Feb 25 19:45:10 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:45:10 +0100 Subject: linux friendly isp In-Reply-To: References: <45E1D47D.10209@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1172432711.3596.1.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Sonntag, den 25.02.2007, 14:28 -0500 schrieb Ed Smits: > open a gmail acc't and put a > forward in your ISP mailbox directing any incoming mail to your new > gmail acc't. Err, surely the point of this would be to remove the dependency on your isp and create a new dependency on a new gmail address? Don't do that. Instead, use your own domain and get gmail to read the e-mail from the pop account for that domain. Much better. From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Feb 25 19:54:45 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:54:45 +0000 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E1E985.6040209@manchester.ac.uk> Freddie, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > One of the features I like best about Ubuntu over Windows, is that you > can make any window on top. However, I would like a way to add a > button to do it, next to the minimise/maximise/close buttons in the > top right corner, so I don't have to click on the icon, then click on > top. I have seen a screenshot[0] of gtkpod (not on Ubuntu) with this > button, so it should be possible. You can right-click anywhere on the title bar and get to the 'On Top' menu item. Are you sure the screen shot is not running under kde? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From boredandblogging at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 20:00:28 2007 From: boredandblogging at gmail.com (n a) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:00:28 -0500 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: <45E1E985.6040209@manchester.ac.uk> References: <45E1E985.6040209@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <954321e10702251200g44584650x7fd4278c1d719c7d@mail.gmail.com> Doing a quick google search shows there is a key binding that can set up 'On Top' for metacity, but I don't see anything for a button. nick On 2/25/07, Tony Arnold wrote: > > Freddie, > > Freddie Ruddick wrote: > > > One of the features I like best about Ubuntu over Windows, is that you > > can make any window on top. However, I would like a way to add a > > button to do it, next to the minimise/maximise/close buttons in the > > top right corner, so I don't have to click on the icon, then click on > > top. 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URL: From p.echols at comcast.net Sun Feb 25 20:04:52 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:04:52 -0800 Subject: Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine] In-Reply-To: <3c5484cf0702231419l18e41e3cjd1135f6f02c38dfc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c5484cf0702231419l18e41e3cjd1135f6f02c38dfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E1EBE4.4030309@comcast.net> On 02/23/2007 02:19 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote: > I can't help with most of these but ... > > On 2/22/07, Patton Echols wrote: >> Cartes du Ciel - Yes there is a linux version in Beta. It is very rough >> around the edges. The windows version is a little clunky, the linux >> version is worse, both usability and display. (For planetarium >> software, minimum requirement is the ability to select and deselect >> catalogs on the fly including the Tycho-2, WDS, SAO, etc. ) If that >> was the ONLY reason I still needed windows, I'd probably bite the bullet >> and buy XEphem. >> > > > >> Virtual Moon Atlas - Not even a Beta AFAIK >> > > How about http://moon.google.com/ --? > > Thank you so much for taking the trouble to look for it. I'm familiar with that particular Google app. (It made the rounds of our astronomy club when it came out.) Unfortunately there is an . . . odd . . . resolution effect at maximum zoom that makes it quite unusable. ;-) >> registax - able to extract frames from an avi, select the least >> distorted frames, align, stack and process into an image, with >> selections for "drizzle" mode, derotation, wavelet processing, etc. >> (This one says it runs under wine, but I'll need to upgrade to version 4) >> > > > >> WinOccult - A program for predicting lunar and asteroid occultations of >> bright stars, >> > > How about http://occult.tungstentech.com/default.aspx --? > Hmmm, I was not familiar with this site. Unfortunately, it does not give enough detail about the path or star charts to be what I'm looking for. But useful to bookmark . . . If you are curious, this site: http://www.asteroidoccultation.com/ uses the output of winoccult. Follow the links in the "detail" column. > >> HP PhotoDelux (like Photoshop Lite) -- Yes, yes, I know that the Gimp is >> supposed to be great - and I am determined to spend the time to figure >> it out if I can, (especially since Photodelux is on the home desktop and >> not the lappy where it belongs.) But it seems to me that the interfaces >> are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me >> pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . >> > > If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > > Yeah, I have already used gThumb a bit and like it. The "heavy lifting" in image processing goes to creating multiple layer images, manipulating the layers individually and then collapseing them into the final image. For my images to make people smile, it is usually the "clone," "erase" and "smudge" tools. (Example, taking two vacation pictures from the "space needle" in Seattle, use the background with the well exposed landscape, and the well exposed foreground with the people, and take out the cables that are intended to keep the jumpers on the roof . . .) For astronomy, the layers need to be aligned, color balanced, reference frames subtracted and divided out, histograms stretched, etc. Some of this I don't think the Gimp can handle either, but that's another subject. Thanks again for your interest and looking for some of this stuff Patton From p.echols at comcast.net Sun Feb 25 20:26:35 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:26:35 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E1F0FB.70403@comcast.net> On 02/24/2007 10:13 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 23/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: > If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > > > I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > Ok, I'll bite. What's FLOSS? A google search reveals Free/Libre Open Source software, but you seem to be referring to a particular application. Or are you saying that there are no good OSS solutions for cropping? That would be truly disappointing since that is one of the most basic image manipulation tools. From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 21:00:14 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:00:14 -0500 Subject: Grub does not want to boot my Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45E1D3C1.8070507@gmx.de> References: <45E1D3C1.8070507@gmx.de> Message-ID: <835a7820702251300p3694ac26rdc4af2f10e0bc71c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/07, N. Spohrer wrote: > new: > sda6=/boot > sda7=/home > sda9=/ > What shall I do? My windows still works (on sda2...). And in the Use your live cd to mount and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. You have to change the old partition numbers to the new ones. If you still had the lvm type partition designations, then replace them with /dev/sda instead. For tips on editing fstab, just do "man fstab". Also, be aware that the grub menu you get when you boot can be changed. This is helpful if you guessed the wrong numbers when you edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Just hit the "e" key on the selected linux on the grub screen and it will give you a grub terminal, where you can use "e" to edit, and "b" to boot. If it fails, just try and try a different number at the next grub boot. HTH, From nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de Sun Feb 25 21:15:12 2007 From: nicolai_spohrer at gmx.de (N. Spohrer) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:15:12 +0100 Subject: Grub does not want to boot my Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <835a7820702251300p3694ac26rdc4af2f10e0bc71c@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E1D3C1.8070507@gmx.de> <835a7820702251300p3694ac26rdc4af2f10e0bc71c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E1FC60.7030003@gmx.de> golfer schrieb: > Use your live cd to mount and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. > You have to change the old partition numbers to the new ones. If you > still had the lvm type partition designations, then replace them with > /dev/sda instead. For tips on editing fstab, just do "man > fstab". > > Also, be aware that the grub menu you get when you boot can be > changed. This is helpful if you guessed the wrong numbers when you > edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Just hit the "e" key on the > selected linux on the grub screen and it will give you a grub > terminal, where you can use "e" to edit, and "b" to boot. If it > fails, just try and try a different number at the > next grub boot. > > HTH, > hello. I already changed the UUIDs (ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -la) and I think they are correct. And of course I already tried to edit on boot - I think 10 times at least (you can exit back2grub with "ESC"). But all this didnt work! And my "update-grub" doesnt run properly, it detects the wrong partitions (cause in the chroot "mount" thinks sda11 is mounted on / and sda6 three times... I just dont know why. Nicolai From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Feb 25 21:20:57 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:20:57 +0000 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? Message-ID: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> I'm not sure if I should be reporting bugs I find in Feisty...? At the moment I find that although nm-applet has improved vastly it doesn't favour wired over wireless connections. If already connected via wireless and then you plug it in, it continues to use wireless. I thought default sane behaviour is to prefer wired. Also the notebook (Omnibook 6100) randomly turns off when booting and occasionally it makes it through. If it is running on power then the computer experiences minutes of freezing before continuing normal operation. It does this indefinitely. Cheers Gabe From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun Feb 25 21:29:35 2007 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:29:35 -0500 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <53870-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C207B06A@[75.195.134.55]> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:20:57 +0000 Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >I'm not sure if I should be reporting bugs I find in Feisty...? Yes. Scott K From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 21:34:17 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:34:17 +0100 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy a écrit : > I'm not sure if I should be reporting bugs I find in Feisty...? > > At the moment I find that although nm-applet has improved vastly it > doesn't favour wired over wireless connections. If already connected via > wireless and then you plug it in, it continues to use wireless. I > thought default sane behaviour is to prefer wired. > > Also the notebook (Omnibook 6100) randomly turns off when booting and > occasionally it makes it through. If it is running on power then the > computer experiences minutes of freezing before continuing normal > operation. It does this indefinitely. > > Cheers > Gabe > yeah, you should report bugs you see on Feisty but not here. Look in the system menu, there must be a "Report a bug", use it to report a bug in launchpad. thanks for helping in improving ubuntu :) From davidbteague at verizon.net Sun Feb 25 21:42:46 2007 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:42:46 -0500 Subject: Off Topic: anti spam software?? In-Reply-To: <45E1A248.3050705@dmiyu.org> References: <45DEFC34.2000203@verizon.net> <45DF0032.5080705@rick-net.com> <45DF0CFF.1000107@verizon.net> <45E1A248.3050705@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <45E202D6.5080905@verizon.net> Steve Lamb wrote: > David B Teague wrote: > > >> I really want something that will challenge everyone not on the whitelist. >> > > Er, no, very rude idea. > > > But for a longer version here is an excellent page describing the many > problems with C/R: > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html I am convinced. NO Challenge/Response (C.R) here. Thanks to you and to everyone who responded. I will try one of the other solutions suggested. (1)Let Thunderbird alone (2) use Spam Assassin (3) other ... First, I'll just let Thunderbird do its thing for a while. Several have suggested Thunderbird's Baysean spam detection may need more experience than I have let it have before it has learned to junk the messages I dislike. I just looked, there junked 125 messages in the junk folder, of which Thunderbird junked about 20. Three correct postiives just now, . That doesn't count messages Thunderbird has deleted from the junk mail folder. Perhaps things aren't as bad as I thought. Thanks guys! David From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 21:44:30 2007 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:44:30 -0600 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: <45E176F1.8040009@gatech.edu> References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E0F4F5.5010906@gatech.edu> <143f0f6c0702250054m26073b75y7a9ce1bab777898e@mail.gmail.com> <45E176F1.8040009@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0702251344l44d1b4f2i7c55cdbf45dafd69@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Christofer C. Bell wrote: > > On 2/24/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> I'm actually using gnewsense-kde (http://www.gnewsense.org/), which is > >> Ubuntu without unfree software, for similar reasons. > > > > I never understood this distribution. Don't you get the same thing by > > removing linux-restricted-modules-*? > > No, the linux kernel itself has unfree software, and there's a bit of > unfree software in the universe repository. See > http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Features, > http://www.gnewsense.org/Universe/Universe , and > http://www.gnewsense.org/FAQ/FAQ . All non-Free software in the kernel (which is included, if I recall correctly, in the vanilla upstream kernel) is contained in linux-restricted-modules-*, and in the Restricted repository (which can be removed / disabled). The gstreamer issue sounds like a bug to me. The removal of nvidia-xconfig is a nitpick -- the software itself is Free. Putting nethack and bsdgames in the default install is a non-issue (and sounds like personal preference on the part of the distribution maintainer). The same goes for emacs in the default installation. Enabling Universe by default is another non-issue and again seems like personal preference on the part of the maintainer, nothing to do with "Free software-only." Universe can't be enabled by default in Ubuntu because it's not supported directly by Canonical. Canonical would like to advertise that "all the software in the default install and repositories is supported by Canonical employees." They can't say that about Universe so it's disabled by default. > It's more work than that. They actually had to dig through the kernel > sources (partially automatically) and decided to rebrand Firefox (to > avoid Mozilla trademark rules). Also, Ubuntu is trending towards *more* > proprietary software by adding Click & Run (which distinguishes itself > from other repositories mainly through distributing proprietary > software) and in the future possibly more proprietary video drivers. I still don't see how it's "more work than that," to be completely honest. The only *real* issue they seem to have with Ubuntu is linux-restricted-modules and the Restricted repository which you're free to disable yourself. Re-branding Firefox to get around a request from the Mozilla Project seems rather unethical to me. I don't care for Debian's stance, either. "We'll take the rest of your work, but thumb our noses at your very simple and reasonable request to protect your trademark." Speaking of Debian, would the maintainers of gNewSense refuse to use Debian as well? It does come with a non-free repository that the installer offers to enable for you, a repository that contains non-free software that is "officially" supported by the Debian Project. I remain unconvinced that gNewSense adds any real value worth the effort of forking a distribution. It looks to me like a "customized Ubuntu" that reflects the maintainer's personal software preferences and uses linux-restricted-modules (which is not "required" past installation) as the justification to get others to use it. At any rate, this discussion is tangential to the original poster's intent. -- Chris memes don't exist -- tell your friends From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Sun Feb 25 21:45:32 2007 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:45:32 -0500 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? 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Just trying to crop a picture left me >>>> pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . >>>> > > You can run PhotoDelux under WINE. Or, if you want something very simple > install Google's Picasa: > http://picasa.google.com/linux/ > > >>> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then >>> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you >>> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and >>> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" >>> > > That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real > photo work I prefer Gimp. > Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning curve steep? I confess that the only thing I have tried with my linux install is a simple crop. It took three tries to get an even psuedo-acceptable result, I finally figured out that you can't "select" an area and then crop the selection; you have to use the crop tool, then navigate past the unexpected and counterproductive behavior. My other Gimp experience is with an install under WinXp. Very very frustrating. I never figured out how to do anything at all with a "selection" except "cut" and then once you have selected something that selection drawing just stays there forever . . . But then this is a conversation for a Gimp forum, not here (but thanks for letting me "vent.") From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 25 21:59:03 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:59:03 -0800 Subject: SpamAssassin - the actual junk mail In-Reply-To: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> References: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 02/25/2007 06:07 AM, Wade Smart wrote: > 02252007 0806 GMT-6 > > One of the things I really liked about Thunderbird (Im on Evolution now) > is that when the junk mail was detected, it was moved into its own > folder. Now that Im on a imap setup using evolution, I just installed > spamassassin and Im wondering, where is that junk mail? How can I train > it? > > wade > > Perhaps: Help|Contents|Organizing Your E-Mail|Stopping Junk Mail (Spam) has your answer? Junk mail moves to it's own folder on Evolution - at least on my test systems. I use POP, but I don't think that makes any difference to the built in Spamassasin in Evolution. From emil at knmedical.se Sun Feb 25 22:00:11 2007 From: emil at knmedical.se (Emil Edeholt) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:00:11 +0100 Subject: MySQL restore multiple databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E206EB.8010700@knmedical.se> Hello! I hope this is not off topic. When I restore one database from an sql file I run: mysql --user=username --pass=password --host=dbserver database < /path/file.sql But now I have one big sql file with all my databases and a CREATE DATABASE for every database. How do I import this sql file into mysql so all databases are restored? (So I won't have to update my backup script everytime I add a database in mysql). I hope I explained this clearly enough... Thanks for your time! Best regards Emil From p.echols at comcast.net Sun Feb 25 22:23:17 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:23:17 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E20C55.5090106@comcast.net> On 02/24/2007 10:56 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > On 24/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: > >> On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> >>>> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then >>>> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you >>>> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and >>>> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" >>>> >>> I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. >>> >> uh... Did you try gThumb image viewer as I suggested? It crops quite >> nicely. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. >> > > Sorry, the context was not properly articulated. ... should have > been... in the apps where it was needed (OO.org and Abiword) it wasn't > an option to crop effectively (or at all) and that's where the > functionality was needed. Jumping to another app was an onerous step > when (ugh) Word could do it cleanly and with no fuss whatsoever. > Anyway, I suspect (hope) that somone's working on a functional crop > for OO.org. > While I have no direct knowledge of it, I recall being told that ughWord does not actually crop an image, What it is actually doing is applying a mask for what you want to see. Even though the data is forever hidden from the user (except through "undo") it stays in the document, adding to it's size. This was given to me as an explanation of why Word will occasionally choke on files w/ many pictures. For me, I don't find it onerous to open another application, it is no different than opening the Word file selector. Edit your image to suit, copy the image or a part, and paste into Open Office . . . no more steps really, and you don't have to fiddle with Word's kludgy and non intuitive menus. From wade at wadesmart.com Sun Feb 25 22:25:19 2007 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:25:19 -0600 Subject: SpamAssassin - the actual junk mail In-Reply-To: References: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1172442320.13363.31.camel@localhost> 02252007 1624 GMT-6 My junk is empty - under On This Computer. wade On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:59 -0800, NoOp wrote: > On 02/25/2007 06:07 AM, Wade Smart wrote: > > 02252007 0806 GMT-6 > > > > One of the things I really liked about Thunderbird (Im on Evolution now) > > is that when the junk mail was detected, it was moved into its own > > folder. Now that Im on a imap setup using evolution, I just installed > > spamassassin and Im wondering, where is that junk mail? How can I train > > it? > > > > wade > > > > > > Perhaps: > Help|Contents|Organizing Your E-Mail|Stopping Junk Mail (Spam) > has your answer? > > Junk mail moves to it's own folder on Evolution - at least on my test > systems. I use POP, but I don't think that makes any difference to the > built in Spamassasin in Evolution. > > > From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 25 22:29:43 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:29:43 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 02/25/2007 01:53 PM, Patton Echols wrote: > On 02/24/2007 02:15 PM, NoOp wrote: >> On 02/24/2007 10:13 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> >>> On 23/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>> HP PhotoDelux (like Photoshop Lite) -- Yes, yes, I know that the Gimp is >>>>> supposed to be great - and I am determined to spend the time to figure >>>>> it out if I can, (especially since Photodelux is on the home desktop and >>>>> not the lappy where it belongs.) But it seems to me that the interfaces >>>>> are completely non intuitive. Just trying to crop a picture left me >>>>> pulling hair out, let alone trying to get a layer to act as advertised . . . >>>>> >> >> You can run PhotoDelux under WINE. Or, if you want something very simple >> install Google's Picasa: >> http://picasa.google.com/linux/ >> >> >>>> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then >>>> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you >>>> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and >>>> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" >>>> >> >> That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real >> photo work I prefer Gimp. >> > > Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning curve > steep? I confess that the only thing I have tried with my linux install > is a simple crop. It took three tries to get an even psuedo-acceptable > result, I finally figured out that you can't "select" an area and then > crop the selection; you have to use the crop tool, then navigate past > the unexpected and counterproductive behavior. My other Gimp experience > is with an install under WinXp. Very very frustrating. I never figured > out how to do anything at all with a "selection" except "cut" and then > once you have selected something that selection drawing just stays there > forever . . . But then this is a conversation for a Gimp forum, > not here (but thanks for letting me "vent.") > > Try: Tools|Transform Tools|Crop & Resize Click anyware in the frame then move the Crop&Resize dialog box out of the way Click & drag in the frame to the area that you want cropped. On the C&R dialog box select the "Crop" button. Done. Or for a simpler method: Tools|Selection Tools|Rect Select Select an area in the frame, right click the selection area, select Image|Crop Image So I guess I'm confused as to what difficulty you may be having. For Gimp I recommend: sudo apt-get install gimp-help* That will install all of the help packages including those for various languages. If you only want english, then: sudo apt-get install gimp-help-common* sudo apt-get install gimp-helpbrowser sudo apt-get install gimp-help-en* sudo apt-get install gimp-help* is easier, then just apt-get remove the language packs that you don't need. From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Feb 25 23:18:43 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:18:43 -0800 Subject: SpamAssassin - the actual junk mail In-Reply-To: <1172442320.13363.31.camel@localhost> References: <1172412426.13363.12.camel@localhost> <1172442320.13363.31.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 02/25/2007 02:25 PM, Wade Smart wrote: > 02252007 1624 GMT-6 > > My junk is empty - under On This Computer. > wade > Do you have any spam? If so mark it as 'Junk' using the 'Junk' button at the top toolbar. That is the only way that you'll train the filter. Additionally, you can select to check against remote filters: Edit|Preferences|Mail Preferences|Junk|Filter Options| tick Include remote tests. Also make sure the General|Check incoming mail for junk is ticked. Note: the one really nice thing about Evolution is that when you mark it as junk it will move the msg to the junk folder (common in most), but the *really* nice thing is when you go to the junk folder and mark it as *not junk* it moves the msg back to the folder that it came from. Thunderbird & Seamonkey do not do this. Disclaimer: I use Seamonkey for all of my email & browsing (if you look at my headers you'll see that I am running a prerelease nightly 1.1.1 now). I use Evolution for calendar etc., but have to admit that I actually quite like Evolution overall & have moved my wife from Thunderbird over to Evolution as a test basket :-). She uses Netware at work & Evolution is quite similar to what she already uses. Note: to Thunderbird fans; I very much like Thunderbird as well so don't flame me, but find the calendar features of Lighting a bit primative compared to Evolution's. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 25 02:43:25 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration References: Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > I focused on the menu (that I find messy) . Also,( maybe that's a bug or > isn't activated) The system doesn't remember the password. How messy the menu is is completely dependent on what package maintainers put in their packages - each package (and this goes for Ubuntu or Mandriva) tells the menu where it should go. I don't have any trouble making the system remember my passwords. > -- derek From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Mon Feb 26 00:02:35 2007 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:02:35 -0500 Subject: cpu slow running Feisty live CD Message-ID: <20070226000235.GA6368@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just tried the AMD64 version of the Feisty live CD and noticed that my processor is running at less than half speed. I have an Athlon64x2 4600+ which is supposed to run at 2.4 GHz. But /proc/cpuinfo says it is only running at 1000 MHz. When I removed the CD and booted Edgy /proc/cpuinfo showed the processor running at full speed again. Is this a known issue or does it have something to do with the fact I was running Feisty from a live CD instead of having it installed to a hard drive? Thanks for any help, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF4iObG9IpekrhBfIRAmodAKCEFtLkCc+ueg71h4QCKFushP3QXACfY1lt uVKK74lIXgOblqIHK9Kfzx0= =xXTQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rob at unsworth.net Mon Feb 26 00:06:27 2007 From: rob at unsworth.net (Rob Unsworth) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:06:27 +1000 (EST) Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Patton Echols wrote: > Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning curve > steep? I confess that the only thing I have tried with my linux install > is a simple crop. It took three tries to get an even psuedo-acceptable > result, I finally figured out that you can't "select" an area and then > crop the selection; you have to use the crop tool, then navigate past > the unexpected and counterproductive behavior. My other Gimp experience > is with an install under WinXp. Very very frustrating. I never figured > out how to do anything at all with a "selection" except "cut" and then > once you have selected something that selection drawing just stays there > forever . . . But then this is a conversation for a Gimp forum, > not here (but thanks for letting me "vent.") You can crop images in the Gimp by selecting the area then cropping. Once the area has been selected it is simply Image -> Crop Image Now what is hard about that. This is a classic case of someone spending years learning an OS or application then switching to another OS/app and complaining because there is a similar learning curve as with the previous OS/app What I can't understand, you are working with images yet you aparently haven't even looked in the "Image" menu. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia ---------------------- From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Feb 25 23:32:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:32:20 -0400 Subject: VMWare / Wine References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> <77520bee0702242241r115bee35q49a3c17a2766b7e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ti9b4-rge.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Eric Dunbar wrote: > If the terms of the EULA are not explicitly prohibited by law I > suspect they will stand if MS could take you to court. That of course is my point - many of the restrictions of the EULA have analogues in the recording industry which _have_ been struck down by our courts. And the EULA only says I can only run it on the hardware I bought it with, anyway... -- derek From bo.2 at systemhouse.dk Mon Feb 26 00:34:58 2007 From: bo.2 at systemhouse.dk (Bo Jacobsen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:34:58 +0100 Subject: Graphic problems when booting In-Reply-To: References: <45DF3B1A.8080500@systemhouse.dk> Message-ID: <45E22B32.4010801@systemhouse.dk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 00:42:03 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:42:03 +0800 Subject: Multicast FIlesharing 0.1 Message-ID: Anyone want to test this out, It's a GUI software that uses UDP multicast protocol to send files to all the computers connected to the network at once, without confirmation. The other computers will need it installed and enabled so they can send and receive files. You can send a directory and the contents inside it. The debian file is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/joelbryan?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=multicast-filesharing_0.1-1_i386.deb Thank you. -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Feb 26 00:57:33 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:57:33 +0000 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E1C2D3.60607@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <45E2307D.8050900@tiscali.co.uk> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Well, that's it :) thanks . > > Which option is better for you ? > The main idea is : How does the Kubuntu design team decide on the option > to put as a default option ? > > > For me? I have option 1). I like to know what program I'm running, not just what type of program I'm running. I can see the use of all the options, depending on what is needed and wanted, but that one works for me. @) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Feb 26 01:01:13 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E1C2D3.60607@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <45E23159.6020006@tiscali.co.uk> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Well, that's it :) thanks . > > Which option is better for you ? > The main idea is : How does the Kubuntu design team decide on the option > to put as a default option ? > > > Sorry, clicked send too soon.,... I'm sorry, I have no idea how they decide on defaults. I just tend to set things up as I like them, which is fairly close to the way it's set up in Debian, where I came from. I like to twiddle and see what happens... mostly, it works, though I don't always like the way it works. But that's the joy of Linux.... you can configure things they way you want them (mostly). -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From smccuan at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 01:50:11 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:50:11 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <4ti9b4-rge.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <25o3b4-ju.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF37A3.2020802@gatech.edu> <2k54b4-cf2.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <45DF7E0C.3020804@gatech.edu> <77520bee0702242241r115bee35q49a3c17a2766b7e9@mail.gmail.com> <4ti9b4-rge.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: This thread has veered entirely off the initial topic... On 2/25/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > If the terms of the EULA are not explicitly prohibited by law I > > suspect they will stand if MS could take you to court. > > That of course is my point - many of the restrictions of the EULA have > analogues in the recording industry which _have_ been struck down by our > courts. And the EULA only says I can only run it on the hardware I bought > it with, anyway... > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atomlbomb at yahoo.com Mon Feb 26 01:52:37 2007 From: atomlbomb at yahoo.com (Adam Lafayette) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:52:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: mirror text horizontally Message-ID: <20070226015237.51373.qmail@web54108.mail.yahoo.com> Is there away in openoffice writer to mirror the text horizontally. I have found how to do it with pictures but not text. I want the text and letters to be backwards. I checked under font gallery but didn't find it there. Thanks. ------ Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb ------ From atomlbomb at yahoo.com Mon Feb 26 02:47:40 2007 From: atomlbomb at yahoo.com (Adam Lafayette) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:47:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: mirror text horizontally Message-ID: <20070226024740.3574.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> whoops sorry sent this question to the wrong list. ------ Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb ------ ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Lafayette To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:52:37 PM Subject: mirror text horizontally Is there away in openoffice writer to mirror the text horizontally. I have found how to do it with pictures but not text. I want the text and letters to be backwards. I checked under font gallery but didn't find it there. Thanks. ------ Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb ------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 02:50:36 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:50:36 +0800 Subject: Grub does not want to boot my Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45E1FC60.7030003@gmx.de> References: <45E1D3C1.8070507@gmx.de> <835a7820702251300p3694ac26rdc4af2f10e0bc71c@mail.gmail.com> <45E1FC60.7030003@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 2/26/07, N. Spohrer wrote: > golfer schrieb: > > Use your live cd to mount and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. > > You have to change the old partition numbers to the new ones. If you > > still had the lvm type partition designations, then replace them with > > /dev/sda instead. For tips on editing fstab, just do "man > > fstab". > > > > Also, be aware that the grub menu you get when you boot can be > > changed. This is helpful if you guessed the wrong numbers when you > > edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Just hit the "e" key on the > > selected linux on the grub screen and it will give you a grub > > terminal, where you can use "e" to edit, and "b" to boot. If it > > fails, just try and try a different number at the > > next grub boot. > > > > HTH, > > > hello. > I already changed the UUIDs (ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -la) and I think they > are correct. And of course I already tried to edit on boot - I think 10 > times at least (you can exit back2grub with "ESC"). But all this didnt > work! And my "update-grub" doesnt run properly, it detects the wrong > partitions (cause in the chroot "mount" thinks sda11 is mounted on / and > sda6 three times... I just dont know why. > > Nicolai > > If sda6 is mounted on /, are you sure you are correct with chroot. try this, mount /dev/sda9 /target /bin/sh grub-install --root-directory=/ --recheck /dev/sda6 #or sda, depends on your setup. update-grub if It can't find your devices, try this cd /dev MAKEDEV generic Hope this helps, Joel > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 03:53:02 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:53:02 +0800 Subject: mirror text horizontally In-Reply-To: <20070226015237.51373.qmail@web54108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20070226015237.51373.qmail@web54108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/26/07, Adam Lafayette wrote: > Is there away in openoffice writer to mirror the text horizontally. > I have found how to do it with pictures but not text. I want the text and letters > to be backwards. > > I checked under font gallery but didn't find it there. > > Thanks. > > ------ > Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com > http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb > ------ > I think you can do it in OpenOffice.org Drawing. or There is a software called Inkscape, that works like Macromedia Firework/Freehand and Adobe Illustrator. Do the text mirror in Inkscape then import it to OpenOffice.org > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I use to fuel my car with water, now I switched back to gasoline because my cigarette lighter doesn't work" - People who use Linux but switched back to Windows. From smccuan at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 03:53:43 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:53:43 -0500 Subject: mirror text horizontally In-Reply-To: <20070226024740.3574.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20070226024740.3574.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm assuming you mean that you were trying to send it to the OpenOffice lists? On 2/25/07, Adam Lafayette wrote: > > whoops sorry sent this question to the wrong list. > > ------ > Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com > http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb > ------ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Adam Lafayette > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:52:37 PM > Subject: mirror text horizontally > > Is there away in openoffice writer to mirror the text horizontally. > I have found how to do it with pictures but not text. I want the text and > letters > to be backwards. > > I checked under font gallery but didn't find it there. > > Thanks. > > ------ > Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com > http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb > ------ > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boredandblogging at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 04:11:04 2007 From: boredandblogging at gmail.com (n a) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:11:04 -0500 Subject: MySQL restore multiple databases In-Reply-To: <45E206EB.8010700@knmedical.se> References: <45E206EB.8010700@knmedical.se> Message-ID: <954321e10702252011n7f6a8e40jea3181ed64174057@mail.gmail.com> Are you using something like mysqldump to do backups? Usually, right after the CREATE DATABASE sql, there is another statement like USE 'databasename' which switches to the newly created database. Basically the SQL would apply to whatever database the last USE 'db' was done for. As long as the dump file has all the correct CREATE and USE statements in the right order (which they would assuming you use something like mysqldump), you can run almost the same command to restore the databases, just without a specific database name: mysql --user=username --pass=password --host=dbserver < /path/file.sql nick On 2/25/07, Emil Edeholt wrote: > > Hello! > > I hope this is not off topic. When I restore one database from an sql > file I run: > > mysql --user=username --pass=password --host=dbserver database < > /path/file.sql > > But now I have one big sql file with all my databases and a CREATE > DATABASE for every database. > > How do I import this sql file into mysql so all databases are restored? > (So I won't have to update my backup script everytime I add a database > in mysql). > > I hope I explained this clearly enough... Thanks for your time! > > Best regards Emil > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomoki.taniguchi at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 04:16:41 2007 From: tomoki.taniguchi at gmail.com (Tomoki Taniguchi) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:16:41 +0900 Subject: pcmcia wireless modem Message-ID: <718828c0702252016k11d8e134yccff1d9c78bdc84c@mail.gmail.com> I have recently removed one of my partitions from my laptop and installed ubuntu in that space. the laptop was set up pretty nicely. And I even got a atheros a/b/g card setup with wpa_supplicant. now i have a new challenge. I have a pcmcia wirelss modem card. Not sure what protocol it uses, but it is a Airedge NEC AX510N data communication card. I have my windows partition able to connect to the internet using this card. When I insert the card, i see... pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0 pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0 serial_cs: serial8250_register_port() at 0x03f8, irq 3 failed It fails without creating the necessary ttyS0x needed for making a dialup connection. I took the card and inserted into another laptop with ubuntu installed. I set it up a couple months ago for testing. This time it goes so far as to creating a ttyS01. I can't tell what the differneces beteween the two installations. Anyone know what i can do to get this card to at least create a ttyS01? TIA -tomoki From sumith.ml at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 06:44:42 2007 From: sumith.ml at gmail.com (Sumith augustine) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:14:42 +0530 Subject: make: command not found Message-ID: <3cc482cc0702252244p504a0d74t8a4c457157f17732@mail.gmail.com> hi all today i was trying to install tclink for ruby on my kubuntu sys. i downloaded "tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz" from http://www.trustcommerce.com/downloads/tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz After untaring it i gave "./build.sh" command for installing then i get the following error ==================================== root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ./build.sh checking for CRYPTO_lock() in -lcrypto... no checking for SSL_connect() in -lssl... no creating Makefile ./build.sh: line 16: make: command not found root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ===================================== then i installed "make" with apt-get install after that i gave "./build.sh" the the error increase and i got the following errors ============================================= root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ./build.sh checking for CRYPTO_lock() in -lcrypto... no checking for SSL_connect() in -lssl... no creating Makefile gcc -fPIC -Wall -g -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -fPIC -I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux -I. -c rb_tclink.c gcc -fPIC -Wall -g -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -fPIC -I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux -I. -c tclink.c tclink.c:43:28: error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory tclink.c:44:26: error: openssl/x509.h: No such file or directory tclink.c:45:25: error: openssl/pem.h: No such file or directory tclink.c :46:25: error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory tclink.c:47:25: error: openssl/err.h: No such file or directory tclink.c:48:26: error: openssl/rand.h: No such file or directory tclink.c:81: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'X509' tclink.c: In function 'AddRecvParam': tclink.c:215: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c:216: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c: In function 'ClearSendList': tclink.c:236: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:244: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:244: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c: In function 'ClearRecvList': tclink.c:251: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c:259: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c: In function 'FinishConnection': tclink.c:297: error: 'X509' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:297: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once tclink.c:297: error: for each function it appears in.) tclink.c:297: error: 'server_cert' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:305: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 5 of 'getsockopt' differ in signedness tclink.c:309: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:309: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_new' tclink.c:309: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:310: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:317: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_set_fd' tclink.c:317: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:321: warning: implicit declaration of function 'time' tclink.c:331: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_connect' tclink.c:331: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:333: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_is_init_finished' tclink.c:333: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:337: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_get_error' tclink.c:337: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:340: error: 'SSL_ERROR_NONE' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:344: error: 'SSL_ERROR_WANT_READ' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:345: error: 'SSL_ERROR_WANT_WRITE' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:352: error: 'SSL_ERROR_ZERO_RETURN' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:353: error: 'SSL_ERROR_SSL' undeclared (first use in this function) tclink.c:361: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_free' tclink.c:361: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c :368: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_get_peer_certificate' tclink.c:368: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:369: warning: implicit declaration of function 'X509_cmp' tclink.c:369: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:370: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:374: warning: implicit declaration of function 'X509_free' tclink.c: In function 'do_SSL_randomize': tclink.c:450: warning: implicit declaration of function 'RAND_status' tclink.c:454: warning: implicit declaration of function 'RAND_seed' tclink.c:457: warning: implicit declaration of function 'RAND_file_name' tclink.c:459: warning: implicit declaration of function 'RAND_load_file' tclink.c: In function 'Connect': tclink.c:489: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c:508: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'dns' tclink.c:511: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'dns' tclink.c:538: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'meth' tclink.c:541: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSLeay_add_ssl_algorithms' tclink.c:542: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'meth' tclink.c :542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSLv3_client_method' tclink.c:545: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:547: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:547: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_CTX_new' tclink.c:547: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'meth' tclink.c:548: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:552: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:553: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:553: warning: implicit declaration of function 'd2i_X509' tclink.c:554: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:569: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'start_time' tclink.c:570: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c:574: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'start_time' tclink.c:574: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c:577: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c:588: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c: In function 'Send': tclink.c:618: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_write' tclink.c:618: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c: In function 'ReadLine': tclink.c:648: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c:658: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c:660: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c:664: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_read' tclink.c:664: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:666: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c: In function 'Close': tclink.c:680: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:680: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_shutdown' tclink.c:680: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:687: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:688: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:689: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:692: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:693: warning: implicit declaration of function 'SSL_CTX_free' tclink.c:693: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:694: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkCreate': tclink.c:715: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:716: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'meth' tclink.c:717: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ctx' tclink.c:718: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'ssl' tclink.c:720: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:721: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c :722: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c:724: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c:725: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c:726: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'start_time' tclink.c:727: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'dns' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkPushParam': tclink.c:745: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c:746: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c:748: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:749: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkSend': tclink.c:776: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:793: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_list' tclink.c:793: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'send_param_tail' tclink.c:805: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'pass' tclink.c :805: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'start_time' tclink.c:806: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'dns' tclink.c:814: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'is_error' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkGetResponse': tclink.c:859: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkGetEntireResponse': tclink.c:886: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'recv_param_list' tclink.c: In function 'TCLinkDestroy': tclink.c:908: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' tclink.c:909: error: 'TCLinkCon' has no member named 'tc_cert' make: *** [tclink.o] Error 1 root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ================================================================ has anyone faced this problem? can anyone help me to sort this out Thanks Sumith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 26 06:50:06 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:50:06 -0500 Subject: make: command not found In-Reply-To: <3cc482cc0702252244p504a0d74t8a4c457157f17732@mail.gmail.com> References: <3cc482cc0702252244p504a0d74t8a4c457157f17732@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E2831E.7040404@gatech.edu> Sumith augustine wrote: > hi all > > today i was trying to install tclink for ruby on my kubuntu sys. i > downloaded "tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz" from > http://www.trustcommerce.com/downloads/tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz > > After untaring it i gave "./build.sh" command for installing then i get > the > following error > ==================================== > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ./build.sh > checking for CRYPTO_lock() in -lcrypto... no > checking for SSL_connect() in -lssl... no > creating Makefile > ./build.sh: line 16: make: command not found > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# > ===================================== > > then i installed "make" with apt-get install > after that i gave "./build.sh" the the error increase > and i got the following errors It's not all errors. Carefully read it, and you can see what's probably wrong: > tclink.c:43:28: error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory sudo apt-get install openssl Then try again. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From sumith.ml at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 07:02:49 2007 From: sumith.ml at gmail.com (Sumith augustine) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:32:49 +0530 Subject: make: command not found In-Reply-To: <45E2831E.7040404@gatech.edu> References: <3cc482cc0702252244p504a0d74t8a4c457157f17732@mail.gmail.com> <45E2831E.7040404@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3cc482cc0702252302w2a51cefeu135ef12fc1c273a9@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Sumith augustine wrote: > > hi all > > > > today i was trying to install tclink for ruby on my kubuntu sys. i > > downloaded "tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz" from > > http://www.trustcommerce.com/downloads/tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz > > > > After untaring it i gave "./build.sh" command for installing then i get > > the > > following error > > ==================================== > > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ./build.sh > > checking for CRYPTO_lock() in -lcrypto... no > > checking for SSL_connect() in -lssl... no > > creating Makefile > > ./build.sh: line 16: make: command not found > > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# > > ===================================== > > > > then i installed "make" with apt-get install > > after that i gave "./build.sh" the the error increase > > and i got the following errors > > It's not all errors. Carefully read it, and you can see what's probably > wrong: :-) > tclink.c:43:28: error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory > > sudo apt-get install openssl > > Then try again. openssl and libopenssl-ruby libopenssl-ruby1.8 are already installed I dont know why its showing such msgs inspite of openssl libopenssl-ruby are installed. i think its due to some dependency problem :-) thanks Sumith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 26 07:06:11 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:06:11 -0500 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45E286E3.1070707@gatech.edu> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I'm not sure if I should be reporting bugs I find in Feisty...? Yes, at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs . 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From timfrost at xtra.co.nz Mon Feb 26 07:06:30 2007 From: timfrost at xtra.co.nz (Tim Frost) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:06:30 +1300 Subject: make: command not found In-Reply-To: <45E2831E.7040404@gatech.edu> References: <3cc482cc0702252244p504a0d74t8a4c457157f17732@mail.gmail.com> <45E2831E.7040404@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172473590.5632.5.camel@marvin.chile.gen.nz> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 01:50 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Sumith augustine wrote: > > hi all > > > > today i was trying to install tclink for ruby on my kubuntu sys. i > > downloaded "tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz" from > > http://www.trustcommerce.com/downloads/tclink-3.4-ruby.tar.gz > > > > After untaring it i gave "./build.sh" command for installing then i get > > the > > following error > > ==================================== > > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# ./build.sh > > checking for CRYPTO_lock() in -lcrypto... no > > checking for SSL_connect() in -lssl... no > > creating Makefile > > ./build.sh: line 16: make: command not found > > root at tbk013:/usr/local/src/tclink-3.4-ruby# > > ===================================== > > > > then i installed "make" with apt-get install > > after that i gave "./build.sh" the the error increase > > and i got the following errors > > It's not all errors. Carefully read it, and you can see what's probably > wrong: > > tclink.c:43:28: error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory > > sudo apt-get install openssl Actually, openssl-dev is missing. The core tools for a compile are available via the meta-package build-essential. However, because Ubuntu packages the development versions of libraries separately from the run-time packages, you need to install the development packages for any libraries that you need. If you are building software that has been packaged for ubuntu, you can get the build dependencies with sudo apt-get build-dep > > Then try again. > > Matthew Flaschen > Tim From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 09:01:26 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:01:26 +0200 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00702260101s316170e1ia22a29374b2b2047@mail.gmail.com> On 25/02/07, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > Hi there, > > One of the features I like best about Ubuntu over Windows, is that you > can make any window on top. However, I would like a way to add a > button to do it, next to the minimise/maximise/close buttons in the > top right corner, so I don't have to click on the icon, then click on > top. I have seen a screenshot[0] of gtkpod (not on Ubuntu) with this > button, so it should be possible. > > Does anyone know how to get an "on top" button next to > close/maximise/minimise in the top right? > > Thanks a lot > > Freddie :) > > [0]http://www.gtkpod.org/images/gtkpod_main02.png > The button with the pin is not an "on top" button, rather, a sticky button. That means that the window will appear on all of the desktops. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/activex.html From amichai at iglu.org.il Mon Feb 26 09:26:41 2007 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:26:41 +0200 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI Message-ID: Hi Folks! I am connected to my home from work using an SSH terminal. I would like to compress a file and send it to an e-mail address from the CLI. How do I do that? I know it's possible.... Thanks! -- .:====================================================:. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .:====================================================:. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 26 09:31:57 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:31:57 +0100 Subject: CPU scaling on Intel Centrino Duo? In-Reply-To: <1172307080.9005.2.camel@duncan-laptop> References: <1172307080.9005.2.camel@duncan-laptop> Message-ID: <45E2A90D.5050409@welcomes-you.com> Hi Duncan, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > I've been wondering about this for a while... I maintain a laptop test > for my laptop > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP_Pavilion_DV8220EA) but > I've never been able to find out just what range of CPU scaling my > processor _should_ support. It's always got some scaling, but I don't > know if that's the right amount - can someone help me? I don't know if this is the piece of information you are looking for: $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies 2266000 1866000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000 There are other interesting pieces there as well, e.g. cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/{time,trans}* 2266000 2492847 1866000 128 1600000 48 1333000 96 1066000 400 800000 23431159 From : To : 2266000 1866000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000 2266000: 0 14 3 9 31 87 1866000: 4 0 1 1 0 8 1600000: 1 0 0 2 0 1 1333000: 3 0 0 0 3 6 1066000: 4 0 0 0 0 30 800000: 125 0 0 0 0 0 HTH Carsten From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 26 09:43:00 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:43:00 +0100 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E2ABA4.7000307@welcomes-you.com> Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi Folks! > > I am connected to my home from work using an SSH terminal. > > I would like to compress a file and send it to an e-mail address from > the CLI. > > How do I do that? I know it's possible.... > Sure it's possible, but it highly depends on the set-up of the box. Is there a "sendmail" equivalent binary you can use to send email out, is there a local SMTP server running (and listening) or is there a remote SMTP-server listening you might be able to use? Each scenario needs a slightly different approach, so please tell us, which is the one fitting your layout. Cheers Carsten From gerard.bigot at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 09:53:19 2007 From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:53:19 +0100 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46db19270702260153m428b02cm867266b787edb959@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/07, Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hi Folks! > > I am connected to my home from work using an SSH terminal. > > I would like to compress a file and send it to an e-mail address from the > CLI. > > How do I do that? I know it's possible.... > > Thanks! > yes, it's possible. Just telnet to your smtp server. Smth like telnet and helo from rcpt to .... read the email RFC, everything is described. G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 26 09:59:28 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:59:28 +0100 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI In-Reply-To: <46db19270702260153m428b02cm867266b787edb959@mail.gmail.com> References: <46db19270702260153m428b02cm867266b787edb959@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E2AF80.8090104@welcomes-you.com> Gérard BIGOT wrote: > read the email RFC, everything is described. Yikes, don't scare him that much, sending the file properly encoded would be a nightmare this way ;) C From kristian at zimmer428.net Mon Feb 26 10:07:49 2007 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:07:49 +0100 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070226110749.457becda@n428> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ["Amichai Rotman" @ Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:26:41 +0200] > I am connected to my home from work using an SSH terminal. > I would like to compress a file and send it to an e-mail address from > the CLI. > How do I do that? I know it's possible.... It is, but your mileage might vary depending on how you want to do it: - - Using an interactive session (IOW sending mails with attachments _manually_), you simply should take a look at mutt+msmtp which features all there is to have in terms of e-mail handling, and getting a basic setup done should be easily done. - - Using an automated approach of building and sending mails, you will have to build valid e-mails using some sort of programming / scripting language. Personally, I prefer the JavaMail API for right these purposes, but i.e. the Python "email" module should have similar functionalities. Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF4rF7cxBAPOA1m6wRAkMbAKCMEgF4S+AMsSopG4w7GGpgN9WZRgCfQ26l 6E3UkPIvx+IK2ZTJq83UFhU= =GCFH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From derekmailbox at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 10:15:04 2007 From: derekmailbox at gmail.com (Derek) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:15:04 +0100 Subject: Sending Mail from the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <159b320e0702260215q9570843qd8b8ba42b2cb376b@mail.gmail.com> As it has been said it depends if you have or have not sendmail installed and running, just try the following: #Compress and archive what you want to send: tar -czf destfile.tar.gz /path/to/whateveryouwanttosend #Send an email with the file attached echo | mutt -s subjectoftheemail -a /path/to/destfile.tar.gz recipient at domain.net I execute these two lines in a file as cron script to send me daily a small backup. Note I've to use "sudo" before each line due the permissions in the files involved. I hope it helps! 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[RESOLVED] In-Reply-To: References: <1172406170.15130.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1172488585.5239.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, so after lots of research and questioning here, I decided to chance it and picked up an HP Deskjet 2368. The 2360 is listed as supported, and HP's website lists several printers along with those two as part of the "2300 Series" -- all of which in HPLIP are represented with the same driver. The printer works perfectly. It was recognised from its USB signature and CUPS automagically Did The Right Thing (which is a HUGE change from the last time I had to deal with it!). So how does one go about updating the assorted knowledge bases about a printer that works? -- Michael T. 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If the IDE driver doesn't support your particular SATA controller, or the controller doesn't have a legacy interface, then only libata can be used. Unless the hard disk controller on the system motherboard is Intel, VIA or nVidia, standard IDE drivers may not work". Is there any possible harm from trying out the legacy mode in the BIOS? Will it change the /dev/ names of hard drives and partitions? (For reference I think the snippet of lshw output in [2] refers to my SATA controller.) Thanks, Adam [1] http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/#testinghelp [2] *-ide:1 description: IDE interface product: MCP51 Serial ATA Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: e bus info: pci at 00:0e.0 logical name: scsi0 logical name: scsi1 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list scsi-host configuration: driver=sata_nv resources: ioport:9f0-9f7 ioport:bf0-bf3 ioport:970-977 ioport:b70-b73 ioport:e000-e00f iomemory:fe02d000-fe02dfff irq:209 From kaushalshriyan at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 11:43:54 2007 From: kaushalshriyan at gmail.com (Kaushal Shriyan) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:13:54 +0530 Subject: uname -m and uname -p Message-ID: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> Hi when i do the below command, I get the below information $ uname -m x86_64 $ uname -p unknown $ whats the difference between the two command and i have referred to man uname which says -m, --machine print the machine hardware name -p, --processor print the processor type or "unknown" But could not understand, Thanks and Regards Kaushal From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 26 11:49:14 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:49:14 +0100 Subject: SATA drives and smartmontools. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E2C93A.3000109@welcomes-you.com> Adam Funk wrote: > Will it change the /dev/ names of hard drives and partitions? >From my experience yes, but this is only with two systems. After enabling the legacy mode, /dev/sda transforms to /dev/hda. Have you tried using the libata directly (with a kernel version 2.6.15 or newer)? smartctl -a -data /dev/sda should usually work fine without the legacy mode. HTH Carsten From patrick.gelin at free.fr Mon Feb 26 12:04:50 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:04:50 +0100 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? Message-ID: Hi, What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't find any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not what I want, so... Thank you for your help! From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 26 12:13:08 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:13:08 +0000 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E2CED4.2010001@yandex.ru> Patrick Gelin wrote: > Hi, > > What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't find > any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not what I want, > so... > > Thank you for your help! > > I used a spreadsheet to great effect for my finances. Try using OpenOffice Calc From moranar at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 12:16:42 2007 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:16:42 +0100 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0702260416g20ffcc40tb9108f7eaf73d71c@mail.gmail.com> 2007/2/26, Patrick Gelin : > Hi, > > What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't find > any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not what I want, > so... > > Thank you for your help! It depends on two things: 1) Did you use something before? In that case, there might be an equivalent (then again, there might not, but...) 2) How much complexity do you need? Gnucash is a serious program, but personally, I manage my budget in Openoffice Calc. GNUmeric could be an alternative in this alternative. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar From patrick.gelin at free.fr Mon Feb 26 12:39:37 2007 From: patrick.gelin at free.fr (Patrick Gelin) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:39:37 +0100 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? References: <45E2CED4.2010001@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Yes I use OpenOffice too, but I would like something better. I made macros command with calc but it take a very long time... So I was wondering if there is a specific tool for budget management! I tried kmymoney2 (the last cvs version manage a budget), and I had a look for Grisby and Gnucash, but it's very light for budget... Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Patrick Gelin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't >> find any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not what I >> want, so... >> >> Thank you for your help! >> >> > > I used a spreadsheet to great effect for my finances. Try using > OpenOffice Calc From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 12:44:50 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:44:50 -0500 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702260744.51040.veritastic@gmail.com> On Monday 26 February 2007 07:04:50 Patrick Gelin wrote: > Hi, > > What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't find > any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not what I want, > so... > > Thank you for your help! Even though it is a KDE Program you could also try KMyMoney... I found it feels an awful lot like the Quicken family of programs, so if you are already used to quicken or quickbooks, it would be an easy transition. -Chris From andreas at tiddelipom.com Mon Feb 26 13:12:07 2007 From: andreas at tiddelipom.com (Andreas) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:12:07 +0100 Subject: HP NC360T Dual Port Gigabit Adapter with kernel drivers? Message-ID: <45E2DCA7.10900@tiddelipom.com> Yo, I've got a HP DL140 acting as firewall, and need to add some extra NICs to it. Our hardware provider suggested the HP NC360T Dual Port Gigabit Adapter (PCI Express), and a quick look at the HP homepage told me there are drivers for Linux, but they are installed from RPM and made for SUSE and Red Hat. The chipset is Intel 82571EB. Is the e1000 kernel driver working with this card? If so, is the driver working well? Found some sites that claimed the card droped the link from time to time. /Andreas From psalmos at swissinfo.org Mon Feb 26 13:12:45 2007 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:12:45 +1000 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070226231245.413be6d4@picasso> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:04:50 +0100 Patrick Gelin wrote: > Hi, > > What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't > find any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not > what I want, so... Try Homebank: http://homebank.free.fr/ Nikolai From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 26 13:28:04 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:28:04 -0500 Subject: uname -m and uname -p In-Reply-To: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E2E064.2000900@gatech.edu> Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi > > when i do the below command, I get the below information > > $ uname -m > x86_64 > $ uname -p > unknown > $ > > whats the difference between the two command and i have referred to man uname > which says > > -m, --machine > print the machine hardware name > > -p, --processor > print the processor type or "unknown" -p should be the actual model of processor, but it doesn't seem to work on my machine either. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We should all start somewhere, isn't it? > Rather questions than people who don't listen... > >>> I'm an Ubuntu newcomer, and pretty much a Linux newbie too. >> I've just >>> installed a couple of Dapper LAMP servers, and have added >> things like >>> SSH and Samba (the latter of which I have still to figure out how to >>> set up properly). I'm very pleased with things so far... >>> >>> However, both installs have been on dual processor machines, >> so I need >>> to install SMP kernels to get the best out of them - can you >> advise on >>> the best way to go about this? >> Install linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 > > I believe there was a 'higher-level' package. > linux-686-smp Good call. It's actually linux-image-686 Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Zeller) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:39:30 +0100 Subject: uname -m and uname -p In-Reply-To: <45E2E064.2000900@gatech.edu> References: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> <45E2E064.2000900@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200702261439.39602.zeller@ibh-wor.de> On Monday 26 February 2007 14:28, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > > Hi > > > > when i do the below command, I get the below information > > > > $ uname -m > > x86_64 > > $ uname -p > > unknown > > $ > > > > whats the difference between the two command and i have referred to man > > uname which says > > > > -m, --machine > > print the machine hardware name > > > > -p, --processor > > print the processor type or "unknown" > > -p should be the actual model of processor, but it doesn't seem to work > on my machine either. Doesn't work here either. 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Please enlighten me. From dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 14:26:08 2007 From: dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:26:08 +0000 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <45E2EE00.3030903@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Andy wrote: >> On 19/02/07, User Iam wrote: > >> You could try awstats (its in the repositories). >> There is also webalizer (in Universe). > > If you go for awstats (it's a great tool), please remove the cgi-script > as soon as possible or make sure that no-one from the "evil" world can > run it. The past has shown it is not the safest script around. I have some log files to analyse that I've downloaded from a server. I got webalizer to analyse by crafting a reasonably simple command-line. Now I'm trying to use awstats and struggling. The docs say I should run a configure script that will modify my apache conf! I don't want to do that - the logs aren't from this machine. I haven't found any other docs describing how to run it. The help from the script itself suggests I need to prepare a config file, which appears to have 12 mandatory parameters and a bunch of others that may or may not be relevant. Is there an idiot's guide somewhere that explains the settings to use awstats on some pre-existing log files? Thanks, Dave From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Feb 26 14:48:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:48:37 -0500 Subject: [Kubuntu] About Kde Integration In-Reply-To: <45E1C2D3.60607@tiscali.co.uk> References: <45E0EEA7.6020704@gatech.edu> <45E1C2D3.60607@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <45E2F345.6070104@gatech.edu> Wulfy wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Well, my first problem was all the parenthesis in the menu. they make it >> heavy (i think) . If they could make just like in Ubuntu, choose a set >> of software and not put the name of the software before its function. > > Right-click on the panel. Choose "Configure Panel..." On the menu tree > at the side choose "Menus". Top left in the main part of the dialogbox > is a set of radio buttons to choose the style of menu format: > > Name only. > Name (Description). > Description only. > Description (Name). > > I suspect you want the third choice... :@) Thanks. 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ROOT ! /home/adam # smartctl -s on -d ata /dev/sda smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF ENABLE/DISABLE COMMANDS SECTION === SMART Enabled. ! ROOT ! /home/adam # /etc/init.d/smartmontools restart * Restarting S.M.A.R.T. daemon... [fail] ! ROOT ! /home/adam # tail /var/log/syslog Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Opened configuration file /etc/smartd.conf Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Drive: DEVICESCAN, implied '-a' Directive on line 22 of file /etc/smartd.conf Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Configuration file /etc/smartd.conf was parsed, found DEVICESCAN, scanning devices Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/hda, opened Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/hda, packet devices [this device CD/DVD] not SMART capable Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/hdb, opened Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/hdb, packet devices [this device CD/DVD] not SMART capable Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/sda, opened Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Device: /dev/sda, IE (SMART) not enabled, skip device Try 'smartctl -s on /dev/sda' to turn on SMART features Feb 26 14:59:59 bunsen smartd[23091]: Unable to monitor any SMART enabled devices. Try debug (-d) option. Exiting... I did notice this line in the `smartctl -a ...` output: ==> WARNING: May need -F samsung or -F samsung2 enabled; see manual for details. but I get exactly the same results with either of those options added to the smartctl command. From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Feb 26 15:25:20 2007 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:25:20 +0100 Subject: SATA drives and smartmontools. In-Reply-To: <7d9bb4-bdm.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> References: <45E2C93A.3000109@welcomes-you.com> <7d9bb4-bdm.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Message-ID: <45E2FBE0.2000101@welcomes-you.com> Adam Funk wrote: > That command produces a whole lot of information about SMART > capabilities, which I thought looked encouraging, but: > > ! ROOT ! /home/adam # smartctl -s on -d ata /dev/sda > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ > > === START OF ENABLE/DISABLE COMMANDS SECTION === > SMART Enabled. > > This look alright > ! ROOT ! /home/adam # /etc/init.d/smartmontools restart > * Restarting S.M.A.R.T. daemon... [fail] > Have you looked into /etc/smartd.conf /etc/smartmontools and/or /etc/default/smartmontools ? Maybe you have to add a "-d ata" switch as well. HTH carsten From davin at nerdshack.com Mon Feb 26 15:48:37 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:48:37 +0100 Subject: SMB Issue In-Reply-To: <001001c759b0$0a17b330$1e471990$@telemar.cu> References: <45E2E5DD.5060104@nerdshack.com> <001001c759b0$0a17b330$1e471990$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <45E30155.1040707@nerdshack.com> Robe wrote: > Have you installed Samba server? > > -- > Robe. > > Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Davin Terrizzi > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:51 AM > To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions > Subject: SMB Issue > > Hi, I am running Ubuntu and my mother is running Windows XP downstairs (LAN) > When she shares folders, I can see them through Nautilus (Places > Network > Servers > auto-finds the Workgroup > her PC) But when I share folders thru > GNOME (System > Administration > Shared Folders) she cannot see it at her > 'My Network Places' I checked the samba.conf and we're both on the same > Workgroup. > > Please enlighten me. > > > > > Yep. sudo apt-get install samba says it is. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't bother using the Kmenu, but install each of the submenus on my panel, which gives me seven different menus of one level to find the $DESIRED application. > I knew some of you would start saying, "It's easy to do it", "the way to > do it is ..." but that's not my point, my point is , why not make a Look > And Feel Spec for Kde in Kubuntu just as good as Gnome in Ubuntu. > > I am an Ubuntu user and the moment I posted that topic was just after > trying out Kubuntu. I would like less layers, more simplicity while still retaining the configurability. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From boredandblogging at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 15:51:29 2007 From: boredandblogging at gmail.com (n a) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:51:29 -0500 Subject: uname -m and uname -p In-Reply-To: <200702261439.39602.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> <45E2E064.2000900@gatech.edu> <200702261439.39602.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <954321e10702260751q3884ce2avc10d0fea80815269@mail.gmail.com> Looking at uname.c (which is part of the GNU coreutils) where it handles the -p, here is some code: ----- char const *element = unknown; #if HAVE_SYSINFO && defined SI_ARCHITECTURE { static char processor[257]; if (0 <= sysinfo (SI_ARCHITECTURE, processor, sizeof processor)) element = processor; } #endif ------ The problem is that HAVE_SYSINFO and SI_ARCHITECTURE are never defined anywhere, at least not in my standard Edgy kernel. Doing a google search, this looks like it has been broken for some time. There have been many patches proposed, but none have actually been applied. Gentoo seems to have their own patch for it though. nick On 2/26/07, Benjamin E. Zeller wrote: > > On Monday 26 February 2007 14:28, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > when i do the below command, I get the below information > > > > > > $ uname -m > > > x86_64 > > > $ uname -p > > > unknown > > > $ > > > > > > whats the difference between the two command and i have referred to > man > > > uname which says > > > > > > -m, --machine > > > print the machine hardware name > > > > > > -p, --processor > > > print the processor type or "unknown" > > > > -p should be the actual model of processor, but it doesn't seem to work > > on my machine either. > > > Doesn't work here either. Tried it on Debian-Box, didn't work, SuSE-Box > gives "i686" > > > > Matthew Flaschen > > -- > Benjamin Zeller > Ing.-Büro Hohmann > Bahnhofstr. 34 > D-82515 Wolfratshausen > > Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 > Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 > Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 > mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de > > www.ibh-wor.de > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enigma at rick-net.com Mon Feb 26 16:11:07 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:11:07 -0500 Subject: Question about iptables in edgy Message-ID: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> This is probably a silly question, but I'm rather new to Linux. Does iptables file start by default with Ubuntu edgy? I just configured a simple firewall called lokkit, and I checked to see if the chain entry took, and it did. Now I just want to know by starting my machine, booting into gnome desktop, does the iptables file configure the chains within the boot routine by default, or do I have to set up a command, like in the menu.lst file in grub, to use the iptables upon boot up. I know, I know.. I don't really need a firewall, and lokkit is not the most secure, I have a stand alone machine connected to a high-speed ISP. I'm just slightly, the paranoid type (probably from using Windows all these years). Thanks -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 26 16:17:19 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:17:19 +0000 Subject: creating a website like launchpad's Message-ID: <45E3080F.4050609@yandex.ru> I was browsing through https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty and I love it. What I really want is to mimic it, to have my own launchpad for my own business. Is there a fairly simple way to do it? I mean is it possible to just download laucnhpad and work it on your server, like wordpress or phpbulliten? Or is it possible to register your own section on launchpad? I know I have made myself so clear, I guess the bottom line is: I want my own launchpad!! From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Mon Feb 26 16:27:39 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:27:39 -0500 Subject: SMB Issue In-Reply-To: <45E30155.1040707@nerdshack.com> References: <45E2E5DD.5060104@nerdshack.com> <001001c759b0$0a17b330$1e471990$@telemar.cu> <45E30155.1040707@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <000c01c759c3$084ac0c0$18e04240$@telemar.cu> I hope you can configure the samba server successfully with these few steps. There's a few steps for a setup like this, but it's overall a pretty painless process. I assume you've already set up at least one samba user as describe here, or however method you chose to do it. I'll refer to it as Firstly, we need a group allowed to read/write to /var/www Code: sudo addgroup www-users sudo adduser www-usersnow we give it write permissions to www Code: sudo chown -R root:www-users /var/www sudo chmod -R 771 /var/wwwNow edit your smb.conf Code: sudo nano -w /etc/samba/smb.confand add the following: Code: [www] comment = www directory path = /var/www public = yes writable = yes valid users = create mask = 0771 directory mask = 0771 force user = force group = www-usersNow just restart samba and enjoy Code: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart -- Robe.   Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Mon Feb 26 16:42:52 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:42:52 -0500 Subject: I need something like MS-DOS Debug Message-ID: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> Hi there, I need to know if there’s available in Linux some program like MS-DOS Debug. Thanx, -- Robe. Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Mon Feb 26 16:43:24 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:43:24 -0500 Subject: About Linux ELF binaries Message-ID: <001501c759c5$3b620f20$b2262d60$@telemar.cu> Hi there, Does anybody know if the “Linux ELF binaries” comply with the System V Interface definition? Thanx, -- Robe. Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Norman From DaveM at Mich.Com Mon Feb 26 17:16:14 2007 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:16:14 -0500 Subject: Wheel mouse and KVM switch problem Message-ID: <4.2.2.20070226113738.7cbdff78@pop.mich.com> I am having a problem with the wheel on the mouse (either HP MS48 or Logitech MX310) connected to P/S 2 port through a KVM switch. The wheel stops working after I use a KVM switch (Slim KVM 4-port switch) to switch between my Ubuntu (v6.06.1) and my Windows (ME) system. The mouse wheel continues to work on the Win-ME system after switching but the wheel quits working on the Ubuntu system. If I unplug and re-connect the mouse (while the KVM is switched to the Ubuntu system) it starts working again. I used xev to look at the mouse events. I see the button 4 and 5 events (mouse wheel) are working before switching. After switching I see no clicks from the mouse wheel. But buttons 1, 2 and 3 still work. If I use the Logitech mouse the scroll wheel quits producing events and the thumb buttons change from producing button 8 and button 9 events to both producing button 2 events. But buttons 1, 2 and 3 still work properly. my /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks like this: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Buttons" "10" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" EndSection I am not sure what to look at next. ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Protect your digital rights: http://www.eff.org "The 'Analog Holes' they want to stop up are our eyes, ears and mouths." From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 17:14:44 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:14:44 +0000 Subject: I need something like MS-DOS Debug In-Reply-To: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> References: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <45391f280702260914r425ca27dr8b64d81ca1da5084@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Robe wrote: > > I need to know if there's available in Linux some program like MS-DOS > Debug. > GNU dbg should satisfy your requirements, admirably. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Feb 26 17:29:05 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:29:05 -0600 Subject: uname -m and uname -p In-Reply-To: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b16fb4c0702260343v765c1b27sccdcee223d07722e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070226112905.6bb51527@WizardsTower> "Kaushal Shriyan" said: > Hi > > when i do the below command, I get the below information > > $ uname -m > x86_64 > $ uname -p > unknown > $ > > whats the difference [...] > Thanks and Regards > > Kaushal > I've no idea as to why the processor isn't identified but if you need the info try . Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From cms0009 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 17:37:41 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard Nagle) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:37:41 -0500 Subject: database Message-ID: looking for a open forum database, that can use wiki style linking, to link docs, and text clips..etc, must a searching function. 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From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Mon Feb 26 17:42:23 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:42:23 -0500 Subject: I need something like MS-DOS Debug In-Reply-To: <45391f280702260914r425ca27dr8b64d81ca1da5084@mail.gmail.com> References: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> <45391f280702260914r425ca27dr8b64d81ca1da5084@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201c759cd$7975f5d0$6c61e170$@telemar.cu> Hi Steve, > GNU dbg should satisfy your requirements. I need some debugger that let me assemble instructions on the fly. Like the option “A” in the MS-DOS Debug to do some tests. I don’t need to debug any binary file. -- Robe. Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Davin Terrizzi Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:48:37 To:"Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" Subject: Re: SMB Issue Robe wrote: > Have you installed Samba server? > > -- > Robe. > > Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera �l quien nos mata a nosotros. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Davin Terrizzi > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:51 AM > To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions > Subject: SMB Issue > > Hi, I am running Ubuntu and my mother is running Windows XP downstairs (LAN) > When she shares folders, I can see them through Nautilus (Places > Network > Servers > auto-finds the Workgroup > her PC) But when I share folders thru > GNOME (System > Administration > Shared Folders) she cannot see it at her > 'My Network Places' I checked the samba.conf and we're both on the same > Workgroup. > > Please enlighten me. > > > > > Yep. sudo apt-get install samba says it is. begin:vcard fn:Davin Terrizzi n:Terrizzi;Davin adr:;;;Dordrecht;Zuid-Holland;3315 EN;The Netherlands email;internet:davin at nerdshack.com title:Dhr. url:http://www.myspace.com/shinzetsudesu version:2.1 end:vcard -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Feb 26 18:03:53 2007 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:03:53 +0000 Subject: Displaying images on A4 Message-ID: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> Hi I have a selection of images (16), and I would like to print them on a single sheet of paper (A4). Is there a program I can use to do this automatically for me or do I have to drag and drop images by hand? It would be helpful if it could output to a Postscript file then I could take it to another printer (I would rather use a university printer than my home printer.) Thanks. Andy From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 26 18:14:09 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:14:09 -0500 Subject: Displaying images on A4 In-Reply-To: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172513650.7646.7.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:03 +0000, Andy wrote: > Hi > > I have a selection of images (16), and I would like to print them on a > single sheet of paper (A4). Is there a program I can use to do this > automatically for me or do I have to drag and drop images by hand? > > It would be helpful if it could output to a Postscript file then I > could take it to another printer (I would rather use a university > printer than my home printer.) Have you tried gnome-photo-printer? http://www.fogman.de/?GnomePhotoPrinter http://packages.ubuntu.com/gnome-photo-printer It's not perfect, but it might get the job done for you. > Thanks. > > Andy > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 18:19:16 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:19:16 +0100 Subject: [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!! Message-ID: Hi, Last week I posted here a topic of "Dell making a move" With the Dell Idea Storm website. Well, thanks to you people, see what happened :) http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&l=en&s=gen wattazoum From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Feb 26 18:25:18 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:25:18 -0500 Subject: I need something like MS-DOS Debug In-Reply-To: <003201c759cd$7975f5d0$6c61e170$@telemar.cu> References: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> <45391f280702260914r425ca27dr8b64d81ca1da5084@mail.gmail.com> <003201c759cd$7975f5d0$6c61e170$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <1172514318.7646.14.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:42 -0500, Robe wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > > > GNU dbg should satisfy your requirements. > > > > I need some debugger that let me assemble instructions on the fly. > Like the option “A” in the MS-DOS Debug to do some tests. I don’t need > to debug any binary file. Emacs has hexl-mode, which lets you edit a file's bytes by entering the hex values for each byte. There's also ghex (in the repositories) which is gnomeish and does the same thing. I don't thing either of these tools know how to translate from a given architecture's assembly instructions to machine code, though. You could use gas (gcc's assembler) for that, I suppose, but I've never meddled with it. > > > -- > > Robe. > > > > Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a > nosotros. > > -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Feb 26 18:26:43 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:43 +0100 Subject: Displaying images on A4 In-Reply-To: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070226192643.2e21325a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Andy wrote: > I have a selection of images (16), and I would like to print them on a > single sheet of paper (A4). Is there a program I can use to do this > automatically for me or do I have to drag and drop images by hand? You can use "gThumb", it's a picture viewer (installed by default in Ubuntu, go to Applications->Graphics to find it). I have just tested it, it's very simple: select/highlight your 16 pictures, then go to Tools->Create Index Image, then click at the bottom on the "Style" button. This will pop up a dialog where you can finely tune how you want the index page to looks like. Basic controls like the number of rows and column, as well as numerous other options if you need them. HTH -- Vince From dim at caltech.edu Mon Feb 26 18:27:10 2007 From: dim at caltech.edu (Dan Meiron) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:27:10 -0800 Subject: new to ubuntu - problems with Dell precision m65 laptop Message-ID: <45E3267E.5010601@caltech.edu> I'm new to ubuntu and would like to learn more about it. I've used Suse and mandrake. I have 2 questions: 1. I installed edgy and it seemed to go fine but upon starting the system the progress bar simply stops - sometimes another screen comes up showing it finished fsck but that is all. Strangely - when I type ctrl-alt-delete I get messages about rc5 and rc 6 and then the system comes up and seems OK (including the wireless). I have seen messages that this laptop has some issues particularly with its wireless card - an Intel Pro wireless 3945abg card but I don't know if this is the issue I am having. So this brings me to my next question: 2. How do I enable a detailed summary of boot messages and init messages? On other Linus systems this seems to be shown to you but not by default on Ubuntu. Any help in this regard would be much appreciated thanks, Dan Meiron From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 18:41:54 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:41:54 +0100 Subject: [Feisty Bugs] Nvidia GeForce Go 7300 and 7400 Message-ID: <1172515314.5802.3.camel@duncan-laptop> If you're running Feisty (Herd 4) and have an NVidia 'GeForce Go 7300' please check if you're getting this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/79016 If you're running Feisty (Herd 4) and have an NVidia 'GeForce Go 7400' please check if you're getting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/87522 Thanks if you can help get these fixed. Duncan From golfbuf at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 18:42:30 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:42:30 -0500 Subject: new to ubuntu - problems with Dell precision m65 laptop In-Reply-To: <45E3267E.5010601@caltech.edu> References: <45E3267E.5010601@caltech.edu> Message-ID: <835a7820702261042n2d6a9334yc046bd6f9f4e1776@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/07, Dan Meiron wrote: > 2. How do I enable a detailed summary of boot messages and init > messages? On other Linus systems this seems to be shown to you but not > by default on Ubuntu. Assuming you have grub as the boot loader, when the boot screen is showing, you can use the grub console to unhide the messages. Hit "e" (for edit) when the Ubuntu line is hilited. On the next screen, hilite the "kernel" line, hit "e" again to edit it. Use the right arrow to go to the end of the line, and then use the backspace to delete the word "quiet". Hit return, then hit "b" (to boot it). Now you'll get the messages. Of course, you can permanently delete "quiet" from /boot/grub/menu.lst if desired. HTH From ubuntu at enelserver.com Mon Feb 26 19:03:08 2007 From: ubuntu at enelserver.com (Leonel) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:03:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: 2wire router usb Message-ID: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> Hello I have a 2wire router and I need to connect an Ubuntu Edgy There's no ethernet only USB I can't find any info to use the USB to connect to the net The router has a DHCP server and it connects to the dsl provider With windows ( yuck ) works with the usb but I can't find info about how to connect to the router with the USB Any info ? Leonel From webguytx at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 19:07:45 2007 From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:07:45 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 doesn't show fat32 partition In-Reply-To: References: <45DF15CA.7050506@gmail.com> <45DF226E.5030103@nerdshack.com> <45DF326E.8010301@gmail.com> <45DF3707.3040807@nerdshack.com> <45DF50EC.6040506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E33001.1060407@gmail.com> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Please give us the result of > > $ sudo fdisk -l > > and > > $ cat /etc/fstab > > and also > > $ mount | grep -e "/dev" > > > I got it to see my fat 32 data drive. Thanks for all the help. From davin at nerdshack.com Mon Feb 26 19:16:40 2007 From: davin at nerdshack.com (Davin Terrizzi) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:16:40 +0100 Subject: SMB Issue In-Reply-To: <000c01c759c3$084ac0c0$18e04240$@telemar.cu> References: <45E2E5DD.5060104@nerdshack.com> <45E30155.1040707@nerdshack.com> <000c01c759c3$084ac0c0$18e04240$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <200702262016.40739.davin@nerdshack.com> On Monday 26 February 2007 17:27, Robe wrote: > I hope you can configure the samba server successfully with these few > steps. > > There's a few steps for a setup like this, but it's overall a pretty > painless process. > > I assume you've already set up at least one samba user as describe here, or > however method you chose to do it. I'll refer to it as > > Firstly, we need a group allowed to read/write to /var/www > > Code: > sudo addgroup www-users > sudo adduser www-usersnow we give it write permissions to > www > > Code: > sudo chown -R root:www-users /var/www > sudo chmod -R 771 /var/wwwNow edit your smb.conf > > Code: > sudo nano -w /etc/samba/smb.confand add the following: > > > Code: > [www] > comment = www directory > path = /var/www > public = yes > writable = yes > valid users = > create mask = 0771 > directory mask = 0771 > force user = > force group = www-usersNow just restart samba and enjoy > > > Code: > sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart > > -- > Robe. >   > Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. Thanks! That did it! From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Mon Feb 26 19:18:49 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:18:49 -0500 Subject: SMB Issue In-Reply-To: <200702262016.40739.davin@nerdshack.com> References: <45E2E5DD.5060104@nerdshack.com> <45E30155.1040707@nerdshack.com> <000c01c759c3$084ac0c0$18e04240$@telemar.cu> <200702262016.40739.davin@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <005b01c759da$f20eb060$d62c1120$@telemar.cu> That's great! -- Robe.   Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. From andreas at tiddelipom.com Mon Feb 26 19:56:10 2007 From: andreas at tiddelipom.com (Andreas) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:56:10 +0100 Subject: Question about iptables in edgy In-Reply-To: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <45E33B5A.7020703@tiddelipom.com> The enigma wrote: > This is probably a silly question, but I'm rather new to Linux. Does > iptables file start by default with Ubuntu edgy? I just configured a > simple firewall called lokkit, and I checked to see if the chain entry > took, and it did. Now I just want to know by starting my machine, > booting into gnome desktop, does the iptables file configure the chains > within the boot routine by default, or do I have to set up a command, > like in the menu.lst file in grub, to use the iptables upon boot up. I > know, I know.. I don't really need a firewall, and lokkit is not the > most secure, I have a stand alone machine connected to a high-speed ISP. > I'm just slightly, the paranoid type (probably from using Windows all > these years). > Thanks > There are probably a couple of ways to do it, but I do it like this: First add some stuff to the firewall script so you can start and stop it with with start/stop input command. #!/bin/sh case "$1" in start) /sbin/iptables -A INPUT bla bla bla The rest of your iptables goes here ;; stop) /sbin/iptables -F ;; esac Make it executable chmod +x lokkit Now you can start your iptables firewall with /path/to/lokkit start and stop it with /path/to/lokkit stop. Copy the firewall script to /etc/init.d. cp /path/to/lokkit /etc/init.d Then make a symbolic link from the script to the runlevels so it starts automagically when you boot linux. cd /etc/rc2.d ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc2.d/lokkit cd /etc/rc3.d ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc3.d/lokkit cd /etc/rc4.d ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc4.d/lokkit cd /etc/rc5.d ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc5.d/lokkit Now it starts the iptables firewall when you boot linux. You can stop it, if you want to, with /etc/init.d/lokkit stop. Start it again with /etc/init.d/lokkit start. Hope this helps you a bit. /Andreas From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 26 19:57:49 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:57:49 -0800 Subject: Printing. [RESOLVED] In-Reply-To: <1172488585.5239.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1172406170.15130.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1172488585.5239.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 03:16 AM, Michael T. Richter wrote: > OK, so after lots of research and questioning here, I decided to chance > it and picked up an HP Deskjet 2368. The 2360 is listed as supported, > and HP's website lists several printers along with those two as part of > the "2300 Series" -- all of which in HPLIP are represented with the same > driver. > > The printer works perfectly. > > It was recognised from its USB signature and CUPS automagically Did The > Right Thing (which is a HUGE change from the last time I had to deal > with it!). > > So how does one go about updating the assorted knowledge bases about a > printer that works? > > Start here? http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro This is an interactive database; if you know anything useful that isn't represented here, please add your knowledge to the pool -- post anything you know to the forum for your printer, and one of our editors will incorporate your information into the data. From dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com Mon Feb 26 20:18:25 2007 From: dave.grundgeiger at codenouveau.com (Dave Grundgeiger) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:18:25 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu on Dell (was [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!) References: Message-ID: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> >From the Dell site: "... we are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for Linux ... we are also working with other distributors and evaluating the possibility of additional certifications across our product line." Is anyone at Ubuntu involved with this? Dell hardware that's certified to work with Ubuntu would be a selling point for both products! Dave Dave Grundgeiger CodeNouveau, LLC Develop .NET Software with Open-Source Tools http://www.codenouveau.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ouattara Oumar Aziz" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!! Hi, Last week I posted here a topic of "Dell making a move" With the Dell Idea Storm website. Well, thanks to you people, see what happened :) http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&l=en&s=gen wattazoum -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From a24061 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 26 20:24:04 2007 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:24:04 +0000 Subject: SATA drives and smartmontools. References: <45E2C93A.3000109@welcomes-you.com> <7d9bb4-bdm.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> <45E2FBE0.2000101@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <48sbb4-dts.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> On 2007-02-26, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Have you looked into > > /etc/smartd.conf That did it: /dev/sda -a -d ata Thanks! From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 20:40:09 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:40:09 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on Dell (was [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!) In-Reply-To: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> References: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> Message-ID: <1172522409.7399.2.camel@duncan-laptop> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:18 -0600, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > >From the Dell site: > "... we are working with Novell I have just sent them a note pointing out that they should be certifying against the Linux Standards Base and not any one distribution. That's much better than doing a "Does it work with distro 'x'" dance. Others may wish to send them similar notes. Duncan From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 20:41:59 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:41:59 +0100 Subject: Displaying images on A4 In-Reply-To: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0702261003t224d545ak9b4e008705c43ffa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172522519.7399.4.camel@duncan-laptop> The other two suggestions are good. Another way to go is to use Scribus to layout a template which you can use each time you want to do this - just change the pictures and save it as a new high-res pdf for printing. Duncan From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 20:49:15 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:15 +0100 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1172522955.7399.10.camel@duncan-laptop> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 22:34 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > yeah, you should report bugs you see on Feisty but not here. Look in the > system menu, there must be a "Report a bug", use it to report a bug in > launchpad. Yes, 'System > Report a problem...' collects lots of useful information for you. Also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace to learn how to give the developers the best chance of fixing your problem. The best time to get something fixed is in the buildup to the next release. Also, since you're talking about a laptop you might want to join us in the effort to make laptop support constantly better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam Let me know if you want to give something back to the community there, and I'll help you where I can. It's also a great way to keep track of the bugs you have on your system. Duncan From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 26 20:57:10 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:57:10 -0800 Subject: mirror text horizontally In-Reply-To: <20070226024740.3574.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20070226024740.3574.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 02/25/2007 06:47 PM, Adam Lafayette wrote: > whoops sorry sent this question to the wrong list. But since you're here... Select your fontwork item, then from the standard menu toolbar: Format|Flip|Flip Horizontally > > ------ > Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com > http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb > ------ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Adam Lafayette > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:52:37 PM > Subject: mirror text horizontally > > Is there away in openoffice writer to mirror the text horizontally. > I have found how to do it with pictures but not text. I want the text and letters > to be backwards. > > I checked under font gallery but didn't find it there. > > Thanks. > > ------ > Adam Lafayette N1ZGG atomlbomb at yahoo.com > http://www.bloodkeg.com http://www.geocities.com/atomlbomb > ------ > > > From dlithgow at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 20:58:15 2007 From: dlithgow at gmail.com (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:15 +0100 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <45E20C55.5090106@comcast.net> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> <45E20C55.5090106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1172523495.7399.18.camel@duncan-laptop> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:23 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: > On 02/24/2007 10:56 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > On 24/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: > > > >> On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > >> > >>>> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > >>>> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > >>>> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > >>>> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > >>>> > >>> I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > >>> > >> uh... Did you try gThumb image viewer as I suggested? It crops quite > >> nicely. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. > >> > > > > Sorry, the context was not properly articulated. ... should have > > been... in the apps where it was needed (OO.org and Abiword) it wasn't > > an option to crop effectively (or at all) and that's where the > > functionality was needed. Jumping to another app was an onerous step > > when (ugh) Word could do it cleanly and with no fuss whatsoever. > > Anyway, I suspect (hope) that somone's working on a functional crop > > for OO.org. > > > While I have no direct knowledge of it, I recall being told that ughWord > does not actually crop an image, What it is actually doing is applying a > mask for what you want to see. Even though the data is forever hidden > from the user (except through "undo") it stays in the document, adding > to it's size. That is also my understanding - otherwise Word and OOo would need to be able to resave any picture they can import - that's not an easy task - and it's not a job for a word processor. OpenOffice does in fact have what Eric was looking for, but they're more honest about it than word. Simply right click on an image and choose 'Picture...' form the context menu. Then there is a tab called 'Crop' there you can change the part of the image which is visible in the document - exactly what word does except visually explained. So, Eric, as with any software you are unfamiliar with, ask how to do something. Assuming that you would fall over it is asking a lot of your intuition and the software interface. I have to also mention that typing 'crop' into the OpenOffice help window gives a very clear explanation of how to crop an image. Duncan From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 21:12:39 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:12:39 +0200 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00702260101s316170e1ia22a29374b2b2047@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00702261312o5dcfe2a4i24759428b5d46474@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > On 26/02/07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > The button with the pin is not an "on top" button, rather, a sticky > > button. That means that the window will appear on all of the desktops. > > > > Ah, OK. Thanks anyway. File a wish-bug at KDE and Gnome. Sounds like a useful feature- I might vote for it too. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/457/spears_britney.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/love.html From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 26 20:05:35 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:05:35 -0500 Subject: Strange Feisty "live" behavior? Message-ID: <20070226150535.00221190@chisel> Anyone aware of whether or not the Feisty 7.04 Desktop install CD in "live" mode would be changing file permissions on a hard drive, and why? Short a story as possible... I picked up another "beater box" and thought I'd play with Feisty. Burned a copy of the very latest on my laptop (Edgy), and since the disk was in the drive I figured I'd give it a run to see how well it picked up "current" hardware, wireless, etc. Worked a treat. Sorted out my WPA2 WAP, asked for a password, and away I went. Video/sound were cool. The "automatically find and install codecs" feature seems to be working well too, at least from what I can gather by loading a .wmv in Firefox and getting thrust into the update process which identified, loaded, and installed the right gstreamer plugins (sort of by the brute force method). I don't like the Control Panel. It's cheesy and Windows-ish. ) Anywho, I played around for half an hour or so, never mounted a local partition (or checked to see if any were), rebooted, fired up Claws-Mail and immediately got a "Some Plugins Did Not Load" dialog. CM core dumped when I cleared it. It didn't take long to trace the problem to ClamAV, and a daily.inc directory that has somehow had permissions changed to 700. Being owned by user clamav that naturally raised some "issues" when user jeff or his software tried to access it. ;) I've also been playing around with keeping certain select KDE components from loading even though I run several KDE apps. I had set /usr/bin/kdeinit to be non-executable for instance, trying to block knotify (loaded every time konsole generates a "system bell"). That was also... "fixed". Yes, I realize Feisty Desktop isn't *strictly* a Live CD, but I had assumed it would leave well enough alone in "demo mode". Is that ASSumption broken, and for what good reason? Or am I really tripping and none of this happened the way I think it did because Feisty "just won't go there" without explicit instructions to do so?? -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 26 21:40:42 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:40:42 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070226164042.23c2f0cd@chisel> Patton Echols wrote: > > That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real > > photo work I prefer Gimp. > > > > Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning > curve steep? Having had a little experience with Photoshop, Fractal Painter, PSP, and about a dozen other lesser known imaging software and layout applications on both Windows and *nix, I feel Gimp has a comparatively mild learning curve. Somewhat less than Fractal, similar to Photoshop and PSP, and certainly nothing like Blender. But then that's no more a fair comparison than you calling Gimp "unintuitive" simply because you're use to different or "lesser" software. > I confess that the only thing I have tried with my > linux install is a simple crop. It took three tries to get an even > psuedo-acceptable result, I finally figured out that you can't > "select" an area and then crop the selection; you have to use the Nonsense. Any of the three selection tools can be used to define an area to be cropped to, which you do from the Image menu. Simple as pie. The crop tool merely gives you more refined control over size and position, aspect ratio, etc. > crop tool, then navigate past the unexpected and counterproductive > behavior. My other Gimp experience is with an install under WinXp. > Very very frustrating. I never figured out how to do anything at all > with a "selection" except "cut" Almost every operation that's not not on the image or layer menus (and some that are), almost every brush, as well as a considerable number of scripts and "plug ins", restrict their influence to a selected area when one exists. IOW, it's a little harder to find things *not* to do to a selected region than it is to find things you *can* do. > and then once you have selected > something that selection drawing just stays there forever . . . I can think of think of three ways to deselect off the top of my head. Selecting another region (or selecting a region of zero pixels by just clicking outside the selection), invoking Select -> None from the menus, or a hotkey combination... SHIFT+ALT+A if my memory is worth anything (doubtful), but it's noted in the menus anyway. > But then this is a conversation for a Gimp forum, not here > (but thanks for letting me "vent.") You're probably better off here. I can almost hear the sort of "RTFM!" replies you be getting from a bunch of real Gimp users... :( -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 26 19:25:17 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:25:17 -0500 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070226142517.5ccd0d71@chisel> Patrick Gelin wrote: > Hi, > > What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? I can't > find any budget fonctionality into kmymoney2, into grisby it's not > what I want, so... There's GnuCash. From what I know about accounting, which is about didly squat other than having had to use a couple accounting packages in places I've worked POS software, I'd say it's not Peachtree, but comparable to Quick Books and a little more than MS Money. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 26 18:58:41 2007 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:58:41 -0500 Subject: Question about iptables in edgy In-Reply-To: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> References: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <20070226135841.26364e57@chisel> The enigma wrote: > This is probably a silly question, but I'm rather new to Linux. Does > iptables file start by default with Ubuntu edgy? I just configured a > simple firewall called lokkit, and I checked to see if the chain entry > took, and it did. Now I just want to know by starting my machine, > booting into gnome desktop, does the iptables file configure the > chains within the boot routine by default, or do I have to set up a > command, like in the menu.lst file in grub, to use the iptables upon > boot up. I know, I know.. I don't really need a firewall, and lokkit > is not the most secure, I have a stand alone machine connected to a > high-speed ISP. I'm just slightly, the paranoid type (probably from > using Windows all these years). The short answer to your question is "yes". The long answer... It might help to understand that Lokkit isn't a firewall, nor is iptables. The firewall is named 'netfilter', and it loads every time Linux loads. It's part of the Linux kernel itself for all intents and purposes. By default it loads with no rules though, and passes all traffic in both directions. Iptables is nothing more than a (barely) human readable way to add and remove rules in real time. Lokkit builds on top of that, making the process a little more human friendly with a simple GUI and a specific way to save and reload rules. There's two common ways to get netfilter to do something useful automatically. A script that calls iptables multiple times to load rules one by one, or a script that uses iptables-restore to load a whole set of rules previously saved with iptables-save. Lokkit uses the former I believe. Lokkit installs an init script at /etc/init.d/lokkit, which in turn calls another 'lokkit' script in /etc/default (if memory serves). It also creates the proper symlinks in various /etc/rc*.d directories to run the whole mess at relevant runlevel startups, and load your firewall rules when necessary. Whether or not all that actually happens is another matter. ;) If you want to check, reboot, open a terminal, and invoke 'sudo iptables --list'. The password it asks fro is yours. If the gibberish it outputs says much more than "Chain XXXXX (Policy ACCEPT)" a couple/three times then something is in deed loading you a set of firewall rules. Whether that rule set is what you want or even useful, is... another matter. :O) -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--- http://wrench.homelinux.net/~jeff/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Feb 26 21:47:12 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:47:12 +0000 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: <1172522955.7399.10.camel@duncan-laptop> References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> <1172522955.7399.10.camel@duncan-laptop> Message-ID: <45E35560.2060608@yandex.ru> Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 22:34 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> yeah, you should report bugs you see on Feisty but not here. Look in the >> system menu, there must be a "Report a bug", use it to report a bug in >> launchpad. > Yes, 'System > Report a problem...' collects lots of useful information > for you. Also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace to learn how to > give the developers the best chance of fixing your problem. The best > time to get something fixed is in the buildup to the next release. > > Also, since you're talking about a laptop you might want to join us in > the effort to make laptop support constantly better: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam > > Let me know if you want to give something back to the community there, > and I'll help you where I can. It's also a great way to keep track of > the bugs you have on your system. > > Duncan > > Hi Duncan I used that tool under SYSTEM to report several bugs that I found. I have been reading through the documentation on Feisty (just out of interest) and am very impressed. I like authoring documents myself and was wondering if I might be able to write some documentation for Ubuntu. Firstly, is it possible for me to help in this respect and how would I go about becoming involved in the documentation effort? From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Feb 26 22:00:48 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:00:48 +0100 Subject: should I report bugs that I find on Festiy? In-Reply-To: <45E35560.2060608@yandex.ru> References: <45E1FDB9.6000004@yandex.ru> <1172522955.7399.10.camel@duncan-laptop> <45E35560.2060608@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20070226230048.e63ad429.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Firstly, is it possible for me to help in this respect and how would I > go about becoming involved in the documentation effort? Just go to the Ubuntu web site, and click on the "Community" tab. At the bottom, there is a "Contribute" section, showing you all the ways you can help the Ubuntu project. Then just click on the link "Documentation Team", which will take you there : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam HTH, -- Vince From boredandblogging at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 23:04:25 2007 From: boredandblogging at gmail.com (n a) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:04:25 -0500 Subject: database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <954321e10702261504y43bda10ck67cffd1abab4c1db@mail.gmail.com> I'm confused. You are looking for a tomboy-like app (with more power) that is open source? nick On 2/26/07, Richard Nagle wrote: > > looking for a open forum database, that can use wiki style linking, > to link docs, and text clips..etc, must a searching function. > > NOT Tomboy...pls (something with allot more power) > > Anyone? > > TKS - > Rich > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob55 at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 26 23:04:07 2007 From: bob55 at ntlworld.com (Bob Adams) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:04:07 +0000 Subject: J2585B on Ubuntu 6.10? References: Message-ID: <3tp4bnNnd24FFwrd@ntlworld.com> In message , Bob Adams writes > >I will be installing Ubuntu 6.10 on a friends machine this week and I >know it has a HP 2585B NIC. Can anybody confirm that Ubuntu will be able >to install this old network card successfully please? > > Bob > > To anybody who has been hanging on breathlessly for the answer, yes, it installed and ran perfectly. :-) Bob From email.listen at googlemail.com Mon Feb 26 23:33:18 2007 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:33:18 +0100 Subject: database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702270033.20193.email.listen@googlemail.com> On Mon, 26. February 2007 18:37:41 Richard Nagle wrote: > looking for a open forum database, that can use wiki style linking, > to link docs, and text clips..etc, must a searching function. > > NOT Tomboy...pls (something with allot more power) > > Anyone? ILIAS, should be powerfull enough. ILIAS is an e-learning environment but it is also a very powerfull colaborative workplace for documentation purpose. Its capable to handle most every data format which is commonly used for documentation. ILIAS claims to support 'All kinds of formats, useable on the Internet'. It has a full featured forum environment despite others it offers its forum functionality also as email-list, depends on a users choice. IMO the most powerfull tool you will find, not only in the free software ecosphere. I wish it would be offered as ubuntu package or at leat as edubuntu package. ---8<--- from ILIAS feature list ---8<--- http://www.ilias.de/docu/goto.php?target=pg_6656&client_id=docu 1 Introduction [...] The software was developed to reduce the costs of using new media in education and further training and to ensure the maximum level of customer influence in the implementation of the software. * ILIAS allows efficient creation of courses and course materials. It offers standardized tools and templates for the learning and working process including integrated navigation and administration. * Every user in ILIAS has their own Personal Desktop. In ILIAS, the assignment of roles determines user access to different tools, features and materials. * The integrated authoring environment allows easy content creation of learning and working materials. * All kinds of formats, useable on the Internet, can be also adopted by ILIAS. [...] ---8<--- ---8<--- http://www.ilias.de/ios/index-e.html regards, thomas From enigma at rick-net.com Mon Feb 26 23:36:24 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:36:24 -0500 Subject: Question about iptables in edgy In-Reply-To: <45E33B5A.7020703@tiddelipom.com> References: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> <45E33B5A.7020703@tiddelipom.com> Message-ID: <1172532984.17097.20.camel@ubuntu> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 20:56 +0100, Andreas wrote: > The enigma wrote: > > This is probably a silly question, but I'm rather new to Linux. Does > > iptables file start by default with Ubuntu edgy? I just configured a > > simple firewall called lokkit, and I checked to see if the chain entry > > took, and it did. Now I just want to know by starting my machine, > > booting into gnome desktop, does the iptables file configure the chains > > within the boot routine by default, or do I have to set up a command, > > like in the menu.lst file in grub, to use the iptables upon boot up. I > > know, I know.. I don't really need a firewall, and lokkit is not the > > most secure, I have a stand alone machine connected to a high-speed ISP. > > I'm just slightly, the paranoid type (probably from using Windows all > > these years). > > Thanks > > > There are probably a couple of ways to do it, but I do it like this: > > First add some stuff to the firewall script so you can start and stop it > with with start/stop input command. > #!/bin/sh > > case "$1" in > start) > /sbin/iptables -A INPUT bla bla bla > The rest of your iptables goes here > ;; > stop) > /sbin/iptables -F > ;; > esac > > Make it executable > chmod +x lokkit > > Now you can start your iptables firewall with /path/to/lokkit start and > stop it with /path/to/lokkit stop. > > Copy the firewall script to /etc/init.d. > cp /path/to/lokkit /etc/init.d > > Then make a symbolic link from the script to the runlevels so it starts > automagically when you boot linux. > cd /etc/rc2.d > ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc2.d/lokkit > cd /etc/rc3.d > ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc3.d/lokkit > cd /etc/rc4.d > ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc4.d/lokkit > cd /etc/rc5.d > ln -s /etc/init.d/lokkit /etc/rc5.d/lokkit > > Now it starts the iptables firewall when you boot linux. You can stop > it, if you want to, with /etc/init.d/lokkit stop. > Start it again with /etc/init.d/lokkit start. > > Hope this helps you a bit. > > /Andreas > Andreas, Here's the chain created when I ran the application "Lokkit" which I downloaded and ran. it came up with a GUI that allowed me to simply check what I wanted, then create the firewall. It added the chains: ___________________________________________________________________ Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT (2 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp flags:FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:www flags:FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT udp -- 192.168.15.1 anywhere udp spt:domain REJECT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp flags:FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN reject-with icmp-port-unreachable REJECT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ______________________________________________________________________ to my iptables file. I guess my question was, does iptables run (if there's something in there) when you start ubuntu (like a config.sys file in DOS). I'm assuming by your reply, it doesn't. I'm new at writing scripts, I understand the "case" command you used in the example you gave but I thought this application I downloaded, was a "dumb man's" work around to having to write one. I was under the impression, you run "Lokkit" once, go through the GUI to set your options and save, every time you start ubuntu, it's set up. Does that sound right? Have you heard of "Lokkit"? Thanks -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From enigma at rick-net.com Mon Feb 26 23:42:47 2007 From: enigma at rick-net.com (The enigma) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:42:47 -0500 Subject: Question about iptables in edgy In-Reply-To: <20070226135841.26364e57@chisel> References: <1172506267.6392.10.camel@ubuntu> <20070226135841.26364e57@chisel> Message-ID: <1172533367.17097.24.camel@ubuntu> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > The enigma wrote: > > > This is probably a silly question, but I'm rather new to Linux. Does > > iptables file start by default with Ubuntu edgy? I just configured a > > simple firewall called lokkit, and I checked to see if the chain entry > > took, and it did. Now I just want to know by starting my machine, > > booting into gnome desktop, does the iptables file configure the > > chains within the boot routine by default, or do I have to set up a > > command, like in the menu.lst file in grub, to use the iptables upon > > boot up. I know, I know.. I don't really need a firewall, and lokkit > > is not the most secure, I have a stand alone machine connected to a > > high-speed ISP. I'm just slightly, the paranoid type (probably from > > using Windows all these years). > > The short answer to your question is "yes". > > The long answer... > > It might help to understand that Lokkit isn't a firewall, nor is > iptables. The firewall is named 'netfilter', and it loads every time > Linux loads. It's part of the Linux kernel itself for all intents and > purposes. By default it loads with no rules though, and passes all > traffic in both directions. > > Iptables is nothing more than a (barely) human readable way to add and > remove rules in real time. Lokkit builds on top of that, making the > process a little more human friendly with a simple GUI and a specific > way to save and reload rules. > > There's two common ways to get netfilter to do something useful > automatically. A script that calls iptables multiple times to load rules > one by one, or a script that uses iptables-restore to load a whole set > of rules previously saved with iptables-save. Lokkit uses the former I > believe. > > Lokkit installs an init script at /etc/init.d/lokkit, which in turn > calls another 'lokkit' script in /etc/default (if memory serves). It > also creates the proper symlinks in various /etc/rc*.d directories to > run the whole mess at relevant runlevel startups, and load your firewall > rules when necessary. > > Whether or not all that actually happens is another matter. ;) > > If you want to check, reboot, open a terminal, and invoke 'sudo iptables > --list'. The password it asks fro is yours. If the gibberish it outputs > says much more than "Chain XXXXX (Policy ACCEPT)" a couple/three times > then something is in deed loading you a set of firewall rules. > > Whether that rule set is what you want or even useful, is... another > matter. :O) > Thanks. I'm new to Linux, and scripting, so I figured I try this for now. I probably don't really need it, but, what the heck, experimentation and questions is how you learn! -- ~ Rick D. Evolution Email Live free or die. +Linux+ From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 26 23:56:30 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:56:30 -0800 Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: Not sure why this didn't go through the first time... but I'll try it again. On 02/26/2007 11:03 AM, Leonel wrote: > Hello > > I have a 2wire router and I need to connect an Ubuntu Edgy > There's no ethernet only USB > I can't find any info to use the USB to connect to the net > The router has a DHCP server and it connects to the dsl provider > With windows ( yuck ) works with the usb but I can't find info about how > to connect to the router with the USB > > Any info ? > > Leonel > > > Should be pretty much the same as setting up for Redhat. From the 2wire site: Red Hat Linux 7.2, 7.3 , 8.0 1. Open the Network Administration Tool (redhat-config-network). 2. Select Network Configuration. a. DHCP Setup - Select DHCP for the Network Type. b. Static Setup (Advanced) - Select Static IP for the Network Type. - Enter an IP in the range of the current HomePortal scheme (172.16.x.x, 192.168.x.x, or 10.0.x.x) - Enter the Netmask (generally 255.255.0.0) - Enter the Gateway (172.16.0.1, 192.168.0.1, or 10.0.0.1) - Enter the Name Server (same as above) For Unbuntu: System|Administration|Networking http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=2wire+%2Bubuntu&btnG=Search http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12194 From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 00:13:28 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:13:28 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <1172523495.7399.18.camel@duncan-laptop> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> <45E20C55.5090106@comcast.net> <1172523495.7399.18.camel@duncan-laptop> Message-ID: <77520bee0702261613g184a0218m9f66269caadf43c9@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:23 -0800, Patton Echols wrote: > > On 02/24/2007 10:56 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > > On 24/02/07, Tommy Trussell wrote: > > > > > >> On 2/24/07, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > >> > > >>>> If all you need to do is resize, crop, simple color adjust, etc., then > > >>>> the gThumb image viewer that comes with Ubuntu ought to do what you > > >>>> want. It's pretty straightforward. Just right-click on an image and > > >>>> choose "Open With ...--> gThumb Image Viewer" > > >>>> > > >>> I must agree -- cropping images just doesn't seem to exist in FLOSS. > > >>> > > >> uh... Did you try gThumb image viewer as I suggested? It crops quite > > >> nicely. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. > > > > > > Sorry, the context was not properly articulated. ... should have > > > been... in the apps where it was needed (OO.org and Abiword) it wasn't > > > an option to crop effectively (or at all) and that's where the > > > functionality was needed. Jumping to another app was an onerous step > > > when (ugh) Word could do it cleanly and with no fuss whatsoever. > > > Anyway, I suspect (hope) that somone's working on a functional crop > > > for OO.org. > > > > > While I have no direct knowledge of it, I recall being told that ughWord > > does not actually crop an image, What it is actually doing is applying a > > mask for what you want to see. Even though the data is forever hidden > > from the user (except through "undo") it stays in the document, adding > > to it's size. > That is also my understanding - otherwise Word and OOo would need to be > able to resave any picture they can import - that's not an easy task - > and it's not a job for a word processor. > > OpenOffice does in fact have what Eric was looking for, but they're more > honest about it than word. Simply right click on an image and choose > 'Picture...' form the context menu. Then there is a tab called 'Crop' > there you can change the part of the image which is visible in the > document - exactly what word does except visually explained. Unfortunately I would classify that as a solution that _does not work_. You may as well have to dive into the CLUI for how useful that is. Trying to crop an image that way is pretty much useless (may as well fire up (and wait and wait and wait for it to open) GIMP). But, as you may have noticed, that's neither here nor there since, PRESUMABLY, the OO.org devs are working on a fix to that deficiency given that it's a known "bug". > So, Eric, as with any software you are unfamiliar with, ask how to do > something. Assuming that you would fall over it is asking a lot of your > intuition and the software interface. I have to also mention that typing > 'crop' into the OpenOffice help window gives a very clear explanation of > how to crop an image. FYI #1 I did find it and figured it was about as useful as doing it with something like imagik ;-). #2 If you need to read a help file to do something as simple (and important) as cropping, it means it's not properly implemented yet. Ouch. Make one little suggestion that a FL/OSS app doesn't work as well as a closed source app and some people are all over it ;-). Ah well, c'est la vie. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 00:25:34 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:25:34 -0500 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <20070226164042.23c2f0cd@chisel> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> <20070226164042.23c2f0cd@chisel> Message-ID: <77520bee0702261625u3246c3d7w5bcbc4a949ef351a@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > > > That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real > > > photo work I prefer Gimp. > > > > > > > Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning > > curve steep? > > Having had a little experience with Photoshop, Fractal Painter, PSP, > and about a dozen other lesser known imaging software and layout > applications on both Windows and *nix, I feel Gimp has a comparatively > mild learning curve. Somewhat less than Fractal, similar to Photoshop > and PSP, and certainly nothing like Blender. But then that's no more a > fair comparison than you calling Gimp "unintuitive" simply because > you're use to different or "lesser" software. > > > I confess that the only thing I have tried with my > > linux install is a simple crop. It took three tries to get an even > > psuedo-acceptable result, I finally figured out that you can't > > "select" an area and then crop the selection; you have to use the > > Nonsense. Any of the three selection tools can be used to define an > area to be cropped to, which you do from the Image menu. Simple as pie. > The crop tool merely gives you more refined control over size and > position, aspect ratio, etc. > > > crop tool, then navigate past the unexpected and counterproductive > > behavior. My other Gimp experience is with an install under WinXp. > > Very very frustrating. I never figured out how to do anything at all > > with a "selection" except "cut" One of the great tragedies of GIMP is that they are dropping the ball. Photoshop has become a huge bloated beast over the years and they've adopted some pretty advanced editing modes, and abandoned simpler ones. This means that the pros can do fantastic things with Photoshop but the amateurs are left out in the cold. GIMP is probably no more difficult to learn than is Photoshop, but, the problem is that it's trying to be a Photoshop replacement. A wiser route would be to drop the kitchen sink philosophy of design and focus on delivering a reduced subset of the more important (and usable) editing modes and tools. The GIMP leaves a _LOT_ to be desired when it comes to the speed department. Photoshop has done some pretty amazing things with optimizing their filters and operations. In a way, GIMP is filling the needs of an empty market. If you're doing photo layout for a living, $500 for a piece of software is NOTHING!!! That's less than 10 billable hours of work, and, If you're any good at what you do, you'll be dropping $3000 (or much more) on a decent piece of hardware to ensure that you're competitive. If you make your living with software, you're a fool to accept anything less than the best. I think GIMP is getting to the point where it's pretty robust under the hood (except for optimization). Unfortunately, it leaves A LOT to be desired on the surface in that it's got a million and one windows (bad design), and, they're also trying to be more than they really need to be. Though, since this is a FL/OSS project, we may see a fork eventually that seeks to make the GIMP _accessible_ (kind of like Photoshop Elements tries to do, but, given that PE isn't exactly well executed, there's a lot of room for GIMP to make something that "just works"). From frederific at googlemail.com Tue Feb 27 00:32:21 2007 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:32:21 +0000 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: <880dece00702261312o5dcfe2a4i24759428b5d46474@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00702260101s316170e1ia22a29374b2b2047@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00702261312o5dcfe2a4i24759428b5d46474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 26/02/07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > File a wish-bug at KDE and Gnome. Sounds like a useful feature- I > might vote for it too. And off to GNOME bugtracker I went, to file a wishbug[0] (great word by the way!). Then a few mins ago I saw this, added as a resolution: See the second entry at http://marnanel.livejournal.com/tag/pgo; this already exists (though it depends on new themes being written to take advantage of it). So it would appear that it's now a theme thing. Which ubuntu team deals with the "Human" theme, is it -artwork? Freddie :) [0]http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412463 -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From squareyes at internode.on.net Tue Feb 27 00:53:05 2007 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:23:05 +1030 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <20070226164042.23c2f0cd@chisel> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> <20070226164042.23c2f0cd@chisel> Message-ID: <45E380F1.7060003@internode.on.net> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Patton Echols wrote: > > >>> That works - Picasa is a little easier & userfriendly. For any real >>> photo work I prefer Gimp. >>> >>> >> Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning >> curve steep? >> Hi, could check out Grokking the Gimp, http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html Very handy reference for the Gimp, helps with the learning curve. Hope this helps Take Care Winton From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 27 01:25:40 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:25:40 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: <77520bee0702261613g184a0218m9f66269caadf43c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <3c5484cf0702241958u4f8e02a2u472f1875afcd84da@mail.gmail.com> <77520bee0702242256r36bb56f6uf6b3490f6ec8ab1f@mail.gmail.com> <45E20C55.5090106@comcast.net> <1172523495.7399.18.camel@duncan-laptop> <77520bee0702261613g184a0218m9f66269caadf43c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 04:13 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > Ouch. Make one little suggestion that a FL/OSS app doesn't work as > well as a closed source app and some people are all over it ;-). Ah > well, c'est la vie. > Well I'm certainly confused... (won't be the first time); I hadn't used Word in quite some time, but brought it up & opened a doc with graphics. To "crop" the graphic I did the following: - Right click on the graphic - Selected Format Picture Object - Select the "Picture" tab - Looked at the 4 crop selections w/no graphic preview - Made a WAG as to what dimensions I wanted the graphic to be cropped to - selected 0.5" for all & clicked OK. Nope... that wasn't what I wanted; undo, repeat above & guess again. Opened the *same* document in OOo 2.1 and did the following: - Right click on the graphic - Selected Picture - Select the "Crop" tab - Looked at the 4 crop selections *with* graphic preview - Adjusted the 4 (top bottom left right) dimensions while looking at the preview & outline of where the crop was to end up. - Clicked OK Done. Perhaps it's because my version of MS Word is '97? c'est la vie From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 27 01:49:34 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:49:34 -0800 Subject: What is the best software to manage a budget for the familly? In-Reply-To: References: <45E2CED4.2010001@yandex.ru> Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 04:39 AM, Patrick Gelin wrote: > Yes I use OpenOffice too, but I would like something better. I made macros > command with calc but it take a very long time... So I was wondering if > there is a specific tool for budget management! > > I tried kmymoney2 (the last cvs version manage a budget), and I had a look > for Grisby and Gnucash, but it's very light for budget... > Perhaps you mean that Gnucash is a bit "heavy" for a home/family budget? In OOo, check out some of the budget templates & see if perhaps you can find one that will suit your requirements. You may find one that almost does, personalise it & add your own macros etc. Then fine tune it & submit to OOo so others can use it as well :-) http://support.openoffice.org/index.html http://documentation.openoffice.org/ http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/index.html Also see: http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/ http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/english/index.php?tab=Calc http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=openoffice+%2Bbudget From jeffreyholle at bellsouth.net Tue Feb 27 02:33:12 2007 From: jeffreyholle at bellsouth.net (Jeffrey Holle) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:33:12 -0500 Subject: Little miss Sunshine Message-ID: Contrary to what you thought, I'm scheduled to get this movie this week, after waiting for it for 4 weeks. Me thinks its related to the Oscar Circus. I'm glad it didn't get any more rewards. I guess I want to see this movie because the reviewers on 710kiro thought it deserves all rewards ... From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 27 03:20:53 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:20:53 -0800 Subject: Little miss Sunshine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 06:33 PM, Jeffrey Holle wrote: > Contrary to what you thought, I'm scheduled to get this movie this week, > after waiting for it for 4 weeks. > > Me thinks its related to the Oscar Circus. I'm glad it didn't get any > more rewards. I guess I want to see this movie because the reviewers on > 710kiro thought it deserves all rewards ... > > OK. Thanks for letting us all know abut that. From hs.samix at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 04:02:39 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:02:39 -0500 Subject: gnome settins daemon problem with vnc server Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to connect to a remote machine, running Ubuntu Edgy, via vnc. The server running over there is tightvncserver and I am using xtightvncviewer to open a session. I have there in ~/.vnc/xstartup: $> cat .vnc/xstartup #!/bin/sh gnome-session & metacity --replace & nautilus -n & #gnome-panel & #gnome-settings-daemon & However, the problem is that when I try to connect to the vnc server using the command: $> xtightvncviewer gsq.dyndns.org:1 I get an error message window saying something like: There was an error starting GNOME Settings Daemon Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The last error message was: Unbale to determine the address of the message bus (try 'man dbus-lauch' and 'man dbus-daemon' for help) GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. Anybody knows what this means and how to get around? I am trying this because I want to use different keyboard maps(to use unicode fonts) on the vnc server machine. The keyboard applet I get in the gnome panel also doesn't let me change its settins and reports that gnome-settings-daemon is not running. If there is any other way to get different keyboard mappings (languages) on vnc viewer, I am willing to try. thanks, ->HS From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 04:20:18 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:20:18 -0500 Subject: Web Site Monitor In-Reply-To: <45E2EE00.3030903@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> References: <727fc2ee0702190910x3594b26ev2496d8be12c0eb5@mail.gmail.com> <200702191824.23055.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <727fc2ee0702190945s9038b47s6c8e061a3a6fc4ce@mail.gmail.com> <219482c0702190955i38677a54p95a2e45abf3bd328@mail.gmail.com> <45D9EC2B.2010601@welcomes-you.com> <45E2EE00.3030903@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <77520bee0702262020i6911e480k9a4f3194dca3649c@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Dave Howorth wrote: > Carsten Aulbert wrote: > > Andy wrote: > >> On 19/02/07, User Iam wrote: > > > >> You could try awstats (its in the repositories). > >> There is also webalizer (in Universe). > > > > If you go for awstats (it's a great tool), please remove the cgi-script > > as soon as possible or make sure that no-one from the "evil" world can > > run it. The past has shown it is not the safest script around. > > I have some log files to analyse that I've downloaded from a server. I > got webalizer to analyse by crafting a reasonably simple command-line. > Now I'm trying to use awstats and struggling. The docs say I should run > a configure script that will modify my apache conf! I don't want to do > that - the logs aren't from this machine. I haven't found any other docs > describing how to run it. The help from the script itself suggests I > need to prepare a config file, which appears to have 12 mandatory > parameters and a bunch of others that may or may not be relevant. > > Is there an idiot's guide somewhere that explains the settings to use > awstats on some pre-existing log files? This is an indirect answer to your query -- create a virtual machine in VMware and you can experiment to your heart's content without worrying about your "production" machine (caveat -- you may learn a lot more than you bargained for ;-). From lachlan.simpson at wilderness.org.au Tue Feb 27 04:35:13 2007 From: lachlan.simpson at wilderness.org.au (Lachlan Musicman) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:35:13 +1100 Subject: upgrading to feisty In-Reply-To: <20070225212435.3b07c045.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <17E8B6F7-65CB-434F-B287-A266F16F44BB@gmail.com> <835a7820702231035m2c889560s7fd9b3f67a73c070@mail.gmail.com> <24261cd0702241828r60db9316j7be2c5ab2ddc4373@mail.gmail.com> <20070225212435.3b07c045.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <24261cd0702262035t5e5b8527q27bced367dab592c@mail.gmail.com> Hey, thanks for your reply - it made me go and investigate. I had no idea that apt was deprecated for Aptitude. I tried all of the above, but I'm getting big errors on the python 2.5: Compiling /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/docutils/languages/ja.py ... Sorry: LookupError: ("no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding",) ... pycentral: pycentral rtinstall: package python-docutils: error byte-compiling files (153) pycentral rtinstall: package python-docutils: error byte-compiling files (153) and then it fails? cheers L. On 2/25/07, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:28:13 +1100 > "Lachlan Musicman" wrote: > > > I just did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list, then :%s/edgy/feisty/g, > > sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade > > > > plenty of stuff broke, similar issues with the ATI card (no X, dumped > > to command line), missing themes etc. > > "Go back, you are going the wrong way" ;-) > > First error: it's " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " > for a distro upgrade from one version to another ( Edgy --> Feisty ) > > Second error: This method is now deprecated. At the least you should have > used aptitude: " sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && > sudo aptitude dist-upgrade " > > Third error: You should have read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades ;-) > > Which among other useful information, suggests re-running the dist-upgrade > a second time, running sudo apt-get -f install etc etc.... > > It also suggests running > > gksu mkdir /root/.gnupg > > and > > gksu "update-manager -d" > > So, sounds like you gave yourself minimal chances of success ;-) > > Peter > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- READ CAREFULLY. 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I want to print double-sided, so I print from Evince and pick "odd pages only" from the resulting dialogue. All pages get printed. What's the trick? -- Michael T. Richter Disclaimer: Any people who think that opinions expressed from my private email account in any way, shape or form are those of my employer have more lawyers at their beck and call than they do brain cells. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 27 05:05:06 2007 From: a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net (Anthony M Simonelli) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:05:06 -0600 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login Message-ID: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? Can I change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in their own home directory? Will this affect anything system wide? How do I go about doing this (chmod ?) From a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 27 05:09:13 2007 From: a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net (Anthony M Simonelli) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:09:13 -0600 Subject: Home Directory Permissions Message-ID: <1172552953.8325.10.camel@ams-laptop> Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? Can I change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in their own home directory? Will this affect anything system wide? How do I go about doing this (chmod ?) From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 07:14:42 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:42 +0200 Subject: "On Top" button In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00702260101s316170e1ia22a29374b2b2047@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00702261312o5dcfe2a4i24759428b5d46474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00702262314pc1e91ddp4a9d8e1ef6100a18@mail.gmail.com> On 27/02/07, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > So it would appear that it's now a theme thing. Which ubuntu team > deals with the "Human" theme, is it -artwork? I'd imagine that -artwork deals with the Human theme, but leave the bug as it is. It's not an art problem, so even fi the art guys are responsible for it it shouldn't be posted there. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/web_browser.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/166/doobie_brothers.html From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 07:35:49 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:35:49 -0500 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login In-Reply-To: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> Message-ID: <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> Anthony M Simonelli wrote: > Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in > the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? Don't know. Can I > change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in > their own home directory? sudo chmod -R og-rwx /home Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is helpful if you guessed the wrong numbers when you > > > edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Just hit the "e" key on the > > > selected linux on the grub screen and it will give you a grub > > > terminal, where you can use "e" to edit, and "b" to boot. If it > > > fails, just try and try a different number at the > > > next grub boot. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > hello. > > I already changed the UUIDs (ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -la) and I think they > > are correct. And of course I already tried to edit on boot - I think 10 > > times at least (you can exit back2grub with "ESC"). But all this didnt > > work! And my "update-grub" doesnt run properly, it detects the wrong > > partitions (cause in the chroot "mount" thinks sda11 is mounted on / and > > sda6 three times... I just dont know why. > > > > Nicolai > > > > > > If sda6 is mounted on /, are you sure you are correct with chroot. > > try this, > > mount /dev/sda9 /target /bin/sh > grub-install --root-directory=/ --recheck /dev/sda6 #or sda, depends > on your setup. > update-grub > > if It can't find your devices, try this > > cd /dev > MAKEDEV generic > > Hope this helps, > Joel I'm sorry, I mixed mount and chroot altogether it should be ... mount /dev/sda6 /target chroot /target /bin/sh ... Just making sure everyone will get it right. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How > do I go about doing this (chmod ?) > chmod o-r $HOME I have had no problem so far From p.echols at comcast.net Tue Feb 27 09:11:36 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:11:36 -0800 Subject: Cropping photos (Astronomy, Graphics & Video Software [WAS: VMWare / Wine)) In-Reply-To: References: <77520bee0702241013k4b48f3f6se4c98d2ebee37dcb@mail.gmail.com> <45E20564.3020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45E3F5C8.9050205@comcast.net> On 02/25/2007 04:06 PM, Rob Unsworth wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Patton Echols wrote: > > >> Yes, that's what folks keep saying. But did you find the learning curve >> > You can crop images in the Gimp by selecting the area then cropping. Once > the area has been selected it is simply Image -> Crop Image Now what is > hard about that. > Nothing at all . . . if it works. And I went back just now and tried it. WooHoo! So why did it not work the other day? Well, probably because I did something wrong. But what? I have no idea. Should I have looked in the "Image" section? Sure, but cropping is a tool, right? There is a crop tool in that menu, but at least for me, it didn't work when I already had something selected . . . and then when I found the item in the "image" menu, that didn't work either, maybe because I had attempted to apply the other crop tool incorrectly . . . > This is a classic case of someone spending years learning an OS or > application then switching to another OS/app and complaining because there > is a similar learning curve as with the previous OS/app > Well, not quite. I never spent that much time learning the windows photo editor. The fairly simple things I wanted to do, were pretty straightforward. (Like only one crop tool) But that program was also fairly simple. One of the reasons for my interest in linux is the availabliity of high powered applications like the Gimp, w/o having to pay a kilobuck for the one program. I knew the learning curve would be there, but I confess to being frustrated. Apparently not that uncommon. This text is from the Gimp help file: ==== Quoted==== All right, okay: you're stuck. You're trying to use one of the tools on an image, and nothing is happening, and nothing you try makes any difference. Your fists are starting to clench, and your face is starting to feel warm. Are you going to have to kill the program, and lose all your work? This sucks! Well, hold on a second. This happens pretty frequently, even to people who've used the GIMP for a long time, but generally the cause is not so hard to figure out (and fix) if you know what to look at. Lets be calm, and go through a checklist that will probably get you GIMPing happily again. ====End Quote==== > What I can't understand, you are working with images yet you aparently > haven't even looked in the "Image" menu. > > As I mentioned, I thought I was looking for a tool, I eventually did look in the right place, just in the wrong order, and apparently got stuck. So now I need to do some reading so that I don't do that again. While we're on the subject, why can't I make a selection by going to the "select" menu? Oh right, because it's a tool. ;-) Thanks for your thoughts, Patton From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 10:10:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:10:52 -0500 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login- DON'T DO THAT COMMAND In-Reply-To: <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Anthony M Simonelli wrote: >> Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in >> the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? > > Don't know. > > Can I >> change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in >> their own home directory? > > sudo chmod -R og-rwx /home DON'T DO THIS! It will cripple your system. That was a really stupid idea of mine. I just tried it, which helpfully reminded me that /home is owned by root, so you will not be able to read /home , meaning you can't even read your own home directory. To fix it, you'll have to go to a virtual terminal, with e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1: Then sudo chmod -R a+rx /home Very sorry for this. You should be able to set permissions on just your home directory safely, but I wouldn't recommend it... Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 10:22:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:22:14 -0500 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login- DON'T DO THAT COMMAND In-Reply-To: <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E40656.4060506@gatech.edu> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Anthony M Simonelli wrote: >>> Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in >>> the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? >> Don't know. >> >> Can I >>> change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in >>> their own home directory? >> sudo chmod -R og-rwx /home > > DON'T DO THIS! It will cripple your system. > > That was a really stupid idea of mine. I just tried it, which helpfully > reminded me that /home is owned by root, so you will not be able to read > /home , meaning you can't even read your own home directory. > > To fix it, you'll have to go to a virtual terminal, with e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1: > > Then > > sudo chmod -R a+rx /home Just sudo chmod a+rx /home should be fine. > > Very sorry for this. You should be able to set permissions on just your > home directory safely, but I wouldn't recommend it... > > Matthew Flaschen > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 10:23:35 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:23:35 +0800 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. Message-ID: Hi, I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. Joel -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lea.gris at noiraude.net Tue Feb 27 10:29:37 2007 From: lea.gris at noiraude.net (Lea Gris) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:29:37 +0100 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login In-Reply-To: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> Message-ID: <45E40811.6040009@noiraude.net> Anthony M Simonelli a écrit : > Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in > the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? Can I > change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in > their own home directory? Will this affect anything system wide? How > do I go about doing this (chmod ?) pam_mount look like what you need. -- Léa Gris - http://www.noiraude.net/ () Campagne du ruban texte brut contre les courriels en HTML, /\ contre les pièces jointes dans un format propriétaire. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Feb 27 11:06:40 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:06:40 +0000 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login- DON'T DO THAT COMMAND In-Reply-To: <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E410C0.5050202@yandex.ru> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > To fix it, you'll have to go to a virtual terminal, with e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1: > > Then > > sudo chmod -R a+rx /home > I think it would be better to do: sudo chmod -R a+rX /home > Very sorry for this. You should be able to set permissions on just your > home directory safely, but I wouldn't recommend it... > > Matthew Flaschen > > From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Feb 27 11:08:19 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:08:19 +0000 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > > Joel > -- > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > I'm using samba in feisty, you will still need to run smbpasswd, but that's a piece of cake. My one is sharing a printer also, under [printers] I only had to change one thing; and it was to add this line: use client driver = yes So it pretty much works out of the box ;) From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 11:30:37 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:30:37 +0100 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joel Bryan Juliano a écrit : > Hi, > > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > > Joel > -- > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > Just a notice : Feisty isn't stable actually and it's not really a good idea put install it for production now. From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 11:35:05 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:35:05 +0800 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/27/07, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without > > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a > > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > > > > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > > > > Joel > > -- > > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > > > > Just a notice : Feisty isn't stable actually and it's not really a good > idea put install it for production now. Yes, we would not use Feisty for now, but will be in June. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 11:35:35 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:35:35 +0800 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> References: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> Message-ID: On 2/27/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without > > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a > > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > > > > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > > > > Joel > > -- > > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > > > > I'm using samba in feisty, you will still need to run smbpasswd, but > that's a piece of cake. My one is sharing a printer also, under > [printers] I only had to change one thing; and it was to add this line: > > use client driver = yes > > So it pretty much works out of the box ;) I would like to create a simple GTK+ interface that just ask for the users password to feed in smbpasswd to automate this task. Is it possible to manually add users and password for Samba? Because shares-admin doesn't have this feature, I want to make file and printer sharing easier without hassle. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > > > > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > > > > Joel > > -- > > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > > > > I'm using samba in feisty, you will still need to run smbpasswd, but > that's a piece of cake. My one is sharing a printer also, under > [printers] I only had to change one thing; and it was to add this line: > > use client driver = yes > > So it pretty much works out of the box ;) > I'm asking this because Samba in Edgy doesn't work well as it should be in the people who use it. Due to disappointments we receive from the admins who set it up, we're looking for alternatives, currently FTP and Multicast Filesharing is what we have. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Because > shares-admin doesn't have this feature, I want to make file and printer > sharing easier without hassle. > > > -- > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > From cyclothunder at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 12:21:28 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (Luis Rodrigues) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:21:28 +0000 Subject: Network Message-ID: <16dd62e50702270421q3f111ba5x8cf414757c0b2299@mail.gmail.com> Hello! I've installed Linux mint and it has a feature that auto detect my network machines and then it creates a folder with all of their shares. How do i do that on my ubuntu edgy ? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Feb 27 12:52:34 2007 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:52:34 +0100 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Michael R. Head wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 10:57 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a >> requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it >> implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have >> to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but >> to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a >> Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95... for a couple >> reasons that have to do with Microsoft's EULA changes starting with >> Windows 98. > > I don't think I buy this argument (without a snippet of a EULA from some > third party software that explicitly states that it is required to run > on Windows). Certainly the any warranties and guarantees (which were > shaky in the first place) go out the window (so to speak) when running > on a non-Microsoft version of Windows, but simply specifying on the box > that a program requires (or, more to the point _specifies_) windows > doesn't strike me as having any legal force requiring a Microsoft > implementation of that specification/requirement. > > Even if the EULA of a third party piece of software claims that it > requires Windows, I'd still not be totally convinced as EULAs are > notoriously weak. > > E. g. the EULA for IE6 states: "NOTE: IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000, MICROSOFT MILLENNIUM EDITION, MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP, OR ANY OTHER MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEM THAT IS A SUCCESSOR TO ANY OF THE FOREGOING OPERATING SYSTEMS) YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA." (cited from http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/) okay, this is not "third party" but you have to agree on it, before you can install and use ie6, be it on wine or anything else. regards EbR From squareyes at internode.on.net Tue Feb 27 13:10:55 2007 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:40:55 +1030 Subject: Enlightenment In-Reply-To: <16dd62e50702270337w6d15dcc1g29d6eb527d119d6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <16dd62e50702270337w6d15dcc1g29d6eb527d119d6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E42DDF.4030300@internode.on.net> Luis Rodrigues wrote: > Hi! :-) > > Can anyone tell me the repositories or an how-to, to install > enlightenment on my ubuntu edgy. > > Thanks Hi, try universe. Take Care Winton From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 13:11:02 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:11:02 -0500 Subject: VMWare / Wine In-Reply-To: References: <45DDF6E4.2000901@comcast.net> <45DE51E6.6040304@gatech.edu> <20070223105710.3a988489@chisel> <1172294246.8046.9.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <77520bee0702270511s34607d67ibba8359de17d97bc@mail.gmail.com> On 27/02/07, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 10:57 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: > >> > >> In short, if a piece of software lists "Microsoft Windows xxxx" as a > >> requirement, like almost every piece of Windows software does, it > >> implies a *legally owned* copy of that software. It doesn't even have > >> to be installed, IOW Wine is "legal" (the reason the topic came up), but > >> to run almost any Windows software legally requires ownership of a > >> Microsoft Windows license more current than Windows 95... for a couple > >> reasons that have to do with Microsoft's EULA changes starting with > >> Windows 98. > > > > I don't think I buy this argument (without a snippet of a EULA from some > > third party software that explicitly states that it is required to run > > on Windows). Certainly the any warranties and guarantees (which were > > shaky in the first place) go out the window (so to speak) when running > > on a non-Microsoft version of Windows, but simply specifying on the box > > that a program requires (or, more to the point _specifies_) windows > > doesn't strike me as having any legal force requiring a Microsoft > > implementation of that specification/requirement. > > > > Even if the EULA of a third party piece of software claims that it > > requires Windows, I'd still not be totally convinced as EULAs are > > notoriously weak. > > > > > E. g. the EULA for IE6 states: > > "NOTE: IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY > "OS PRODUCT" (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, > MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT 4.0, > MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000, MICROSOFT MILLENNIUM > EDITION, MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP, OR ANY OTHER > MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEM THAT IS A SUCCESSOR > TO ANY OF THE FOREGOING OPERATING SYSTEMS) YOU > ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE > USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS > UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA." > > (cited from http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/) > > okay, this is not "third party" but you have to agree on it, before you > can install and use ie6, be it on wine or anything else. Which means that you should only be using IE 6 under WINE if you have a COA for one of the aforementioned OSes (mind you, Win 98 and NT 4 COAs are now being thrown away so it's not hard to lay your hands on one). From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 13:34:26 2007 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:34:26 +0000 Subject: I need something like MS-DOS Debug In-Reply-To: <1172514318.7646.14.camel@localhost> References: <001001c759c5$28dc15d0$7a944170$@telemar.cu> <45391f280702260914r425ca27dr8b64d81ca1da5084@mail.gmail.com> <003201c759cd$7975f5d0$6c61e170$@telemar.cu> <1172514318.7646.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45391f280702270534n39795bet99fb7e9c2925836b@mail.gmail.com> On 26/02/07, Michael R. Head wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:42 -0500, Robe wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > > > > GNU dbg should satisfy your requirements. > > > > > > > > I need some debugger that let me assemble instructions on the fly. > > Like the option "A" in the MS-DOS Debug to do some tests. I don't need > > to debug any binary file. > The only other two I can think of which may satisfy your requirements are PICE and The-Dude, both available from Sourceforge. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> Message-ID: Joel Bryan Juliano a écrit : > I would like to create a simple GTK+ interface that just ask for the > users password to feed in smbpasswd to automate this task. Is it > possible to manually add users and password for Samba? Because > shares-admin doesn't have this feature, I want to make file and printer > sharing easier without hassle. > I am not sure exactly what you want to do. Do you want windows users to not have to enter a password ? or do you want to automate smb users creation ? maybe you should have a look at that and tell me if that's the feature you would like : http://tinyurl.com/2cacbp there is plenty of option, but some of them will permit sharing of directories without password request. From alexandre.franke at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 14:36:53 2007 From: alexandre.franke at gmail.com (Alexandre Franke) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:36:53 +0100 Subject: Enlightenment In-Reply-To: <45E42DDF.4030300@internode.on.net> References: <16dd62e50702270337w6d15dcc1g29d6eb527d119d6c@mail.gmail.com> <45E42DDF.4030300@internode.on.net> Message-ID: On 2/27/07, squareyes wrote: > try universe. Be aware that this is e16 and not e17. -- Alexandre Franke GNU/Linux user #390077 From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 14:55:20 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:55:20 +0100 Subject: Enlightenment In-Reply-To: <16dd62e50702270337w6d15dcc1g29d6eb527d119d6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <16dd62e50702270337w6d15dcc1g29d6eb527d119d6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Luis Rodrigues a écrit : > Hi! :-) > > Can anyone tell me the repositories or an how-to, to install > enlightenment on my ubuntu edgy. > > Thanks > https://launchpad.net/e17-repository http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog-edgy_en.php/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 15:08:17 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:08:17 -0500 Subject: Auto mount SMB Shares at Login- DON'T DO THAT COMMAND In-Reply-To: <45E410C0.5050202@yandex.ru> References: <1172552706.8325.7.camel@ams-laptop> <45E3DF55.7070709@gatech.edu> <45E403AC.7010101@gatech.edu> <45E410C0.5050202@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45E44961.6020608@gatech.edu> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> To fix it, you'll have to go to a virtual terminal, with e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1: >> >> Then >> >> sudo chmod -R a+rx /home >> > > I think it would be better to do: > sudo chmod -R a+rX /home Yes, I think you're right. 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From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 15:16:19 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:16:19 +0100 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: Mikael Backman a écrit : > Hi.. > I have two computers. One windows xp, one ubunto.. > I like to able to copy files from the windows computer to the ubuntu > computer. They are both connected to a router which connect to > internet via a adsl-modem... Any help would be much appreciated. I > don't know anything about this.. > > Share the directories you would like to copy from windows and get them via the Places->Network menu under Ubuntu. From hs.samix at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 15:42:22 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:42:22 -0500 Subject: international layout not found (but SCIM works) Message-ID: Hello, I am helping some friends to use their national languages in Ubuntu (Edgy-eft). I notice that when I put the keyboard applet on the panel and click on its preferences, their languages are not found (India). In fact, only a number of keyboards layouts are found (german, russian, hebrew, english, etc.). However, if I right click on the terminal or in gedit, I get the "Input" option which gives SCIM applet on the panel and with which it is possible to select the input language from the keyboard. What is the difference between the two methods? If I were to prefer the first one, what is missing that I am able to use that? thanks, ->HS From burner at suppressingfire.org Tue Feb 27 15:01:32 2007 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:01:32 -0500 Subject: CUPS issue: how do I print "odd pages only" and so on? In-Reply-To: <1172551824.6270.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1172551824.6270.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1172588492.10936.95.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 12:50 +0800, Michael T. Richter wrote: > So, I'm trying out my new printer. I'm trying to print. I want to > print double-sided, so I print from Evince and pick "odd pages only" > from the resulting dialogue. > > All pages get printed. > > What's the trick? I think older versions (up to Edgy/6.10) of evince ignored this setting. I believe in feisty that this is fixed. > -- > Michael T. Richter > Disclaimer: Any people who think that opinions expressed from my > private email account in any way, shape or form are those of my > employer have more lawyers at their beck and call than they do brain > cells. -- Michael R. Head http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A windows network is shown under Places->Network but it's empty.. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 16:37:28 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:37:28 -0500 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172593768.24871.8.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <1172593768.24871.8.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E45E48.4070505@gatech.edu> Mikael Backman wrote: > tis 2007-02-27 klockan 16:16 +0100 skrev Ouattara Oumar Aziz: >> Mikael Backman a écrit : >>> Hi.. >>> I have two computers. One windows xp, one ubunto.. >>> I like to able to copy files from the windows computer to the ubuntu >>> computer. They are both connected to a router which connect to >>> internet via a adsl-modem... Any help would be much appreciated. I >>> don't know anything about this.. >>> >>> >> Share the directories you would like to copy from windows and get them >> via the Places->Network menu under Ubuntu. >> >> > I run the network configuration wizard in windwvs.. A windows network is > shown under Places->Network but it's empty.. Running the wizard doesn't share anything. See http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the former, others have pointed to the "how to" of file sharing in windows. If you want the latter, then you need to run a Samba server on the Linux box. From mback99 at glocalnet.net Tue Feb 27 17:44:44 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:44:44 +0100 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> tis 2007-02-27 klockan 09:08 -0800 skrev Patton Echols: > On 02/27/2007 07:08 AM, Mikael Backman wrote: > > Hi.. > > I have two computers. One windows xp, one ubunto.. > > I like to able to copy files from the windows computer to the ubuntu > > computer. They are both connected to a router which connect to > > internet via a adsl-modem... Any help would be much appreciated. I > > don't know anything about this.. > > > > > > > Do you want to be sitting at the Linux box be able to "see" the windows > box? Or do you want to sit at the Windows box and "see" the Linux box? > Those are two different things. For the former, others have pointed to > the "how to" of file sharing in windows. If you want the latter, then > you need to run a Samba server on the Linux box. > I want to see the windows box from ubuntu.. I have shared two folders in windows.. But they don't show up in linux.. Sorry if these are very basic questions.. From linuxhamuser at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 19:53:03 2007 From: linuxhamuser at gmail.com (Johnny) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:53:03 -0600 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager what about the installed (local or obsolete) Message-ID: <45E48C1F.3050402@gmail.com> In the Synaptic Package Manager and installed (local or obsolete) Just wondering if they be safely removed if they are obsolete Johnny -- ******************************* ******************************* Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 Ubuntu User number is # 11285 Registed Linux user #310190 Registed Machine #250193 ******************************* ******************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 27 19:59:11 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:59:11 -0800 Subject: Home Directory Permissions In-Reply-To: <1172552953.8325.10.camel@ams-laptop> References: <1172552953.8325.10.camel@ams-laptop> Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 09:09 PM, Anthony M Simonelli wrote: > Running Ubuntu 6.10 and LTSP5. I've noticed that all of the folders in > the /home directory are readable by other users. Why is this? Can I > change that so only the owners can read, write, and execute files in > their own home directory? Will this affect anything system wide? How > do I go about doing this (chmod ?) > > See: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#User_Administration scroll down to " How to change files/folders permissions" A useful way to do this as root in Nautilus: Following the instructions you'll then be able to: Applications|System Tools|File Browser (Root) Then when you right click on the home folder: Properties|Permissions There you can change the owner and permissions easily. From glgxg at mfire.com Tue Feb 27 20:06:10 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:06:10 -0800 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: References: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> Message-ID: On 02/27/2007 03:40 AM, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/27/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> >> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without >> > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a >> > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? >> > >> > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use >> > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. >> > >> > Joel >> > -- >> > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. >> > >> >> I'm using samba in feisty, you will still need to run smbpasswd, but >> that's a piece of cake. My one is sharing a printer also, under >> [printers] I only had to change one thing; and it was to add this line: >> >> use client driver = yes >> >> So it pretty much works out of the box ;) >> > > I'm asking this because Samba in Edgy doesn't work well as it should be in > the > people who use it. Due to disappointments we receive from the admins who set > it up, we're looking for alternatives, currently FTP and Multicast > Filesharing is what we have. > > Have a look here: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Samba_Server and http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Samba_Web_Administration_Tool_.28SWAT.29 Perhaps you they are just setting it up incorrectly? From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Tue Feb 27 20:12:55 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:12:55 +0000 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder Message-ID: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new partition /home. The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems rather long winded. Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any ideas SteVe From chanweiyee at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:14:20 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:14:20 +0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > I want to see the windows box from ubuntu.. I have shared two folders > in windows.. But they don't show up in linux.. Sorry if these are very > basic questions.. On your Windoze machine, right-click on the folder and choose "Properties". Under the "Sharing" tab, give your share a name. U should see a hand icon after that. Are U using Gnome? If so, click on "Place" followed by "Network Servers". Do U see anything there? Make sure U have the packages libgnomevfs2-extra, smbclient, samba-common and smbfs installed. Also ensure that your Windoze machine has a fixed IP. If your using your router as a DHCP server, configure your router to reserve a specific IP for your Windoze machine (refer to your router manual), for instance, 192.168.1.5. Alternatively, U could set the static IP on your Windoze machine. If U do that, you'd have to set static IPs for your other machine(s) as well, to avoid IP conflicts. I prefer using the router as a DHCP server, as you'd only need to key in the IP for the machine serving files in the router, in this case, the Windoze machine. After you've done that, enter your Windoze machine name and IP in your Linux /etc/hosts file. Open a terminal window and type: sudo gedit /etc/hosts then add this entry 192.168.1.5 without the <>. If you've got a firewall installed on your Linux machine that's got strict rules, you'll have to open the relevant ports. One more thing. Make sure that the Linux user that's supposed to access the Windoze files exists on your Windoze machine too. 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Any body got any ideas > > SteVe > You could do something like: $ rsync -av --exclude=dont-want-this /home /another/location man rsync for more info. You may need to use sudo at the front of the command depending on what exactly you are trying to do. From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Feb 27 20:25:23 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:25:23 +0000 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" Message-ID: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> Somehow I lost Control Centre from System and it had instead returned to the old form of Admin+Prefs. Any one able to tell me how to get back to the lovely feisty look using the Control Centre? Cheers From mback99 at glocalnet.net Tue Feb 27 20:39:22 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:39:22 +0100 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172608762.24871.14.camel@mb-laptop> ons 2007-02-28 klockan 04:14 +0800 skrev Wei-Yee Chan: > Mikael Backman wrote: > > I want to see the windows box from ubuntu.. I have shared two folders > > in windows.. But they don't show up in linux.. Sorry if these are very > > basic questions.. > On your Windoze machine, right-click on the folder and choose > "Properties". Under the "Sharing" tab, give your share a name. U > should see a hand icon after that. > > Are U using Gnome? If so, click on "Place" followed by "Network > Servers". Do U see anything there? > > Make sure U have the packages libgnomevfs2-extra, smbclient, > samba-common and smbfs installed. > > Also ensure that your Windoze machine has a fixed IP. If your using > your router as a DHCP server, configure your router to reserve a > specific IP for your Windoze machine (refer to your router manual), for > instance, 192.168.1.5. > > Alternatively, U could set the static IP on your Windoze machine. If U > do that, you'd have to set static IPs for your other machine(s) as well, > to avoid IP conflicts. I prefer using the router as a DHCP server, as > you'd only need to key in the IP for the machine serving files in the > router, in this case, the Windoze machine. > > After you've done that, enter your Windoze machine name and IP in your > Linux /etc/hosts file. > > Open a terminal window and type: sudo gedit /etc/hosts > > then add this entry > > 192.168.1.5 > > without the <>. > > If you've got a firewall installed on your Linux machine that's got > strict rules, you'll have to open the relevant ports. > > One more thing. Make sure that the Linux user that's supposed to access > the Windoze files exists on your Windoze machine too. > > > Regards, > > Wei-Yee Chan > http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com > > Thank you for your very helpfull answer.. I'll try and implent it :) From chanweiyee at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:43:58 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:43:58 +0800 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager what about the installed (local or obsolete) In-Reply-To: <45E48C1F.3050402@gmail.com> References: <45E48C1F.3050402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E4980E.7090606@gmail.com> Johnny wrote: > > In the Synaptic Package Manager and installed (local or obsolete) > Just wondering if they be safely removed if they are obsolete > > Johnny Packages that do not belong to any of your repositories will show up in this section. For instance, I have Adobe Flash Player 9.0 in this section as this package was manually compiled and installed by me - it was not fetched from any of my current repositories. libsword5c2a is another package. If I'm not wrong, they forgot to include that as a package when Edgy was released. I'd downloaded and installed it manually. If your not too certain if they're useful, I might suggest that U leave them alone. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chanweiyee at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:47:19 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:47:19 +0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172608762.24871.14.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> <1172608762.24871.14.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E498D7.5050106@gmail.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > Thank you for your very helpfull answer.. I'll try and implent it :) Your welcome. :-) Do come back to us if U encounter any problems. 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Cheers. -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vramnum10 at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 21:25:15 2007 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:15 -0800 Subject: Network In-Reply-To: <45E43D81.5080809@yandex.ru> References: <16dd62e50702270421q3f111ba5x8cf414757c0b2299@mail.gmail.com> <45E43D81.5080809@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0702271325i524d3178yf2cff47b460fa4aa@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Luis Rodrigues wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I've installed Linux mint and it has a feature that auto detect my > > network machines and then it creates a folder with all of their shares. > > How do i do that on my ubuntu edgy ? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Just go to PLACES --> NETWORK innit!? I have a similar question... I have two Ubuntu compters... GW is 10.0.0.1 Computer #1 is 10.0.0.2 Computer #2 is 10.0.0.10 If I open places >>Network severs.. It show a windows unit.. Which I assume is the DSL Router... How do I get myself and the other linux computer to show up?? TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Feb 27 21:30:09 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:30:09 +0100 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20070227223009.9b302c81.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Somehow I lost Control Centre from System and it had instead returned to > the old form of Admin+Prefs. Any one able to tell me how to get back to > the lovely feisty look using the Control Centre? Just open the menu editor to enable it (and disable the Pref and Admin menus if you like). -- Vince From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Feb 27 21:30:50 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:30:50 +0000 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <45E4A30A.3050809@yandex.ru> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > No, they revert it back like it was in 2.16, probably you dist-upgraded. > I like the new control-center approach, it's cleaner and much less > clutter, IMHO. > Ahh? Did they do it just today? It's strange though, I have another laptop on Feisty and just dist-upgraded that and it still retains the control centre.... hmmm. From newbie.you at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 21:31:37 2007 From: newbie.you at gmail.com (Youcef ch) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:31:37 +0100 Subject: Couldn't connect via my USB modem(ZXDSL852) Message-ID: <528a14c00702271331q7856b109q4a8cdaf9ff6e7910@mail.gmail.com> Hello First at all i'm a newbie and new in this world of free software/open-source and i ve chosen to use Ubuntu as my first step but i face a problem with my modem usb wich isn't supported by Ubuntu (edgy also i tried the 6.06 LTS release). my ISP: Easy Adsl (Algerie-Telecom) i 've seen: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/zxdsl852 http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=16289 and someone from my country in this topic(called Ishmael) has succeeded but dunno why my problem couldn't be resolved despite i did all the steps included in the tuto ! and i got this: ubuntu at ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe br2684 ubuntu at ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo br2684ctl -b -c 0 -e 0 -a 0.35 br2684ctl[5615]: Interface "nas0" could not be created, reason: File exists br2684ctl[5615]: Communicating over ATM 0.0.35, encapsulation: LLC br2684ctl[5615]: Fatal: failed to connect on socket ubuntu at ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo ifconfig nas0 up ubuntu at ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo pppd call zxdsl Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. ubuntu at ubuntu-desktop:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:6C:AB:11:3C UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:217 Base address:0xe200 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:343 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:343 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:25812 (25.2 KiB) TX bytes:25812 (25.2 KiB) nas0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:27 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:27 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Hope you'll help me as soon possible and Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I created a fresh/new user account to be sure of what defaults are, and indeed, on a new account, the control centre icon does not appear anymore in the System menu. -- Vince From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 21:44:34 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:44:34 +0800 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <45E4A30A.3050809@yandex.ru> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> <45E4A30A.3050809@yandex.ru> Message-ID: On 2/28/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > No, they revert it back like it was in 2.16, probably you dist-upgraded. > > I like the new control-center approach, it's cleaner and much less > > clutter, IMHO. > > > > Ahh? Did they do it just today? > It's strange though, I have another laptop on Feisty and just > dist-upgraded that and it still retains the control centre.... hmmm. > Probably because they haven't updated the laptop configurations yet. GNOME panel has two sets of configurations, upon installation it detects the system if it's running on a laptop or a desktop. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Tue Feb 27 21:54:32 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:54:32 -0600 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <20070227224217.4daa5f48.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> <45E4A30A.3050809@yandex.ru> <20070227224217.4daa5f48.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20070227155432.5008eb1d@WizardsTower> Vincent Trouilliez said: > Yes, they have removed it only very recently. > Also, you may not see the change, if like me, you fiddled with its > icon manually in the past, using in the menu editor. > I created a fresh/new user account to be sure of what defaults are, > and indeed, on a new account, the control centre icon does not appear > anymore in the System menu. As I haven't done today's upgrade I haven't seen the change. Really, the control center is gone? I am now a happier man! Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Feb 27 21:55:08 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:55:08 +0000 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <20070227223009.9b302c81.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> <20070227223009.9b302c81.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <45E4A8BC.5000506@yandex.ru> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> Somehow I lost Control Centre from System and it had instead returned to >> the old form of Admin+Prefs. Any one able to tell me how to get back to >> the lovely feisty look using the Control Centre? > > Just open the menu editor to enable it (and disable the Pref and Admin > menus if you like). > > -- > Vince > So simple!! Worked a treat! And you know... I never used that before, hence my unfamiliarity. Thanks for that. From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Tue Feb 27 21:57:43 2007 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:57:43 -0600 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <20070227155743.7bcbb392@WizardsTower> SteVe Cook said: > I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current > /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new > partition /home. > > The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the > files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems > rather long winded. > > Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any > ideas > > SteVe > Using Nautilus? Highlight everything ( then, holding the key, choose your very large folder. It should then un-highlight. Copy away! Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Feb 27 21:59:07 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:59:07 +0100 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <20070227155432.5008eb1d@WizardsTower> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> <45E4A30A.3050809@yandex.ru> <20070227224217.4daa5f48.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20070227155432.5008eb1d@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <20070227225907.bc6e0161.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > As I haven't done today's upgrade I haven't seen the change. Really, > the control center is gone? I am now a happier man! Yeah, I got to hate it too, within only 5 minutes of using it. On the other hand, it doesn't really matter whether they use it or not, since it is sooo easy to remove it (and put the Admin & Pref menus back) using the menu editor. -- Vince From jdangler at atlantic.net Tue Feb 27 22:00:45 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:45 -0500 Subject: vm with xp sharing Message-ID: <1172613645.28760.301.camel@croatus> I setup vmware-server on Ubuntu 6.10, and loaded XP. I set a directory within the c:drive as a share, and gave the virtual machine a local ip of 192.168.2.100 ... when I try and access this from my Ubuntu machine (same physical box), I get an error that the contents cannot be displayed. I did the same setup on Dapper, and it seemed to work ok. Any ideas on getting this working ? Thanks. From lsof at nodata.co.uk Tue Feb 27 22:08:09 2007 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:08:09 +0100 Subject: vm with xp sharing In-Reply-To: <1172613645.28760.301.camel@croatus> References: <1172613645.28760.301.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <1172614089.3175.21.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Dienstag, den 27.02.2007, 17:00 -0500 schrieb John Dangler: > I setup vmware-server on Ubuntu 6.10, and loaded XP. > I set a directory within the c:drive as a share, and gave > the virtual machine a local ip of 192.168.2.100 ... > when I try and access this from my Ubuntu machine (same physical box), I > get an error that the contents cannot be displayed. I did the same > setup on Dapper, and it seemed to work ok. > > Any ideas on getting this working ? > > Thanks. > > No idea at all. You told us everything apart from the problem :) Show us the error message. From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 22:14:48 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:14:48 +0100 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: SteVe Cook a écrit : > I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current > /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new partition > /home. > > The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the > files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems > rather long winded. > > Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any ideas > > SteVe > I would like to help but I can't understand the "bar" thing :( From mcontla at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 22:17:47 2007 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:17:47 -0800 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On 2/27/07, SteVe Cook wrote: > I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current > /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new partition > /home. > > The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the > files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems > rather long winded. > > Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any ideas > > SteVe > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Use find with -wholename and -prune options. Then pipe the output to xargs: $ find /home -wholename '/home/directory-not-to-copy' -prune -o -print0 | xargs -I{} -0 mv {} /dest-folder/ You may want to tweak the mv options. man find and man mv for more information. -- Mitch From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Tue Feb 27 22:55:19 2007 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:55:19 -0500 Subject: Name resolution w/ multiple connections Message-ID: <45E4B6D7.5020300@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have two computers, a laptop and a desktop, as well as a router. The desktop is wired to the router, and the laptop can connect wirelessly. The only point of the router is to talk between the two computers. My internet connection is dialup, from the laptop. I have found that if online and then I connect to the wireless network (via Network-Manager), my DNS settings switch to 192.168.1.1, which is of course completely bogus and I can no longer load things from the internet. So, what I need to know, is how to have both the modem and wireless LAN connections up at the same time while maintaining nameserver stuff through the dialup connection (except for things defined in the hosts file as being local, like "duluth 192.168.1.5")? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5LbW6iO+5ByUi/QRAqbbAKCg/MsrgF/mJDW7OvmohopgmBZvfwCfUTet c+FYqzFbdyhBJtQ1++SO94Q= =B/Z1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 23:05:17 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:05:17 +0800 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On 2/28/07, SteVe Cook wrote: > > I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current > /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new partition > /home. > > The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the > files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems > rather long winded. > > Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any > ideas > > SteVe Does bar means excluded mate? :-) Ok, supposed you have a bar directory, we can lorry the other files and gotten them copied to a destination directory. rsync --exclude=/home/bar -a /home /newhome You can always snuck in another --exclude= to rsync. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mback99 at glocalnet.net Tue Feb 27 23:05:45 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:05:45 +0100 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172617545.24871.19.camel@mb-laptop> ons 2007-02-28 klockan 04:14 +0800 skrev Wei-Yee Chan: > Mikael Backman wrote: > > I want to see the windows box from ubuntu.. I have shared two folders > > in windows.. But they don't show up in linux.. Sorry if these are very > > basic questions.. > On your Windoze machine, right-click on the folder and choose > "Properties". Under the "Sharing" tab, give your share a name. U > should see a hand icon after that. > > Are U using Gnome? If so, click on "Place" followed by "Network > Servers". Do U see anything there? > > Make sure U have the packages libgnomevfs2-extra, smbclient, > samba-common and smbfs installed. > > Also ensure that your Windoze machine has a fixed IP. If your using > your router as a DHCP server, configure your router to reserve a > specific IP for your Windoze machine (refer to your router manual), for > instance, 192.168.1.5. > > Alternatively, U could set the static IP on your Windoze machine. If U > do that, you'd have to set static IPs for your other machine(s) as well, > to avoid IP conflicts. I prefer using the router as a DHCP server, as > you'd only need to key in the IP for the machine serving files in the > router, in this case, the Windoze machine. > > After you've done that, enter your Windoze machine name and IP in your > Linux /etc/hosts file. > > Open a terminal window and type: sudo gedit /etc/hosts > > then add this entry > > 192.168.1.5 > > without the <>. > > If you've got a firewall installed on your Linux machine that's got > strict rules, you'll have to open the relevant ports. > > One more thing. Make sure that the Linux user that's supposed to access > the Windoze files exists on your Windoze machine too. > > > Regards, > > Wei-Yee Chan > http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com > > I tried to follow your advice.. .. under places->network an icon called 'windows-network' is shown. But it is empty From cyclothunder at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 23:26:49 2007 From: cyclothunder at gmail.com (Luis Rodrigues) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:26:49 +0000 Subject: Thunar Message-ID: <16dd62e50702271526m6701f622oc13d7a75d4d53a46@mail.gmail.com> Hello! How do i make thunar my ubuntu default file manager. For example when i go Places -> Home Folder, it will open thunar! Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi Tue Feb 27 23:48:18 2007 From: ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi (Ari Torhamo) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:48:18 +0200 Subject: Regaining "Control Centre" In-Reply-To: <45E4A8BC.5000506@yandex.ru> References: <45E493B3.9020401@yandex.ru> <20070227223009.9b302c81.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <45E4A8BC.5000506@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1172620098.24663.80.camel@ari-desktop> On ti, 2007-02-27 at 21:55 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Somehow I lost Control Centre from System and it had instead returned to > >> the old form of Admin+Prefs. Any one able to tell me how to get back to > >> the lovely feisty look using the Control Centre? > > > > Just open the menu editor to enable it (and disable the Pref and Admin > > menus if you like). > > > > -- > > Vince > > > > So simple!! Worked a treat! > And you know... I never used that before, hence my unfamiliarity. Thanks > for that. In my view abandoning the control centre would be a step back for less experienced users. They tend to find large menus overwhelming. When the items are presented on a window instead of a menu, it's easier to take your time and look at what's available without accidentally moving the cursor and having the menu disappear. Inexperienced users also are not familiar with the administrative tools and settings available. They often choose wrong a few times before they find what they need, so they need to go to the panel and click there way to the menu items after every wrong selection. Because there's little grouping and organization on the menus, people forget which items they already tried, or even which menu they were on last time they tried, and may end up jumping between menus and menu items and clicking half-randomly. On a window the items are organized two-dimensionally and grouped, which helps in creating a mental map for orientation. The icons, which help in identifying and remembering different items, are also larger in the control centre. I was happy to see the control center come and disappointed to see it go. On the other hand I'm glad that those who prefer the menus can have their way. My suggestion would be to make the control centre the default, and add a selection to enable the menus. It's more natural for the experienced users to adjust there environment to their liking. Why wouldn't we give a friendly default for the inexperienced. I admit that I like the control center myself too - even though I'm not so inexperienced. The menus are OK, but especially when I want to change many settings, like with a new installation, I find the control centre more comfortable. Regards, Ari Torhamo From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Feb 27 23:51:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:51:29 -0500 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <45E4C401.8080801@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > SteVe Cook a écrit : >> I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current >> /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new partition >> /home. >> >> The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the >> files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems >> rather long winded. >> >> Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any ideas >> >> SteVe >> > > I would like to help but I can't understand the "bar" thing :( Replace it with "except". Matt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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At this point the boot will fail, with Grub saying "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xfd". This can be explained by the fact that /boot/grub/menu.lst says "root: hd(0,0)". It should be, of course, "root: hd(0,1)". Changing this in menu.lst, and the problem is gone. This problem is also seen by several others. I believe the same problem exists in Edgy. Has this problem been taken care of in Feisty? -- Rejo Zenger https://rejo.zenger.nl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The idea is to pre-empt the replacement of the /etc/resolv.conf file by your router. make a file, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks containing the following: #!/bin/bash # Stop overwriting /etc/resolv.conf ! function make_resolv_conf { echo “Doing nothing to resolv.conf” } Make the "script" executable sudo chmod +x /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks When you next bring up the wireless interface, your nameservers should remain unchanged. just make sure you have the ones that you need in /etc/resolv.conf . It's a funny solution ( a script that explicitly does nothing), but it works I use this here to define my own nameserver IPs and avoid having the ISPs numbers and/or router IP constantly reappearing in /etc/resolv.conf Simply making /etc/resolv.conf unwritable does not work, because dhcp actually *replaces* the /etc/resolv.conf file and not just its contents. Give it a try :-) Peter From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Wed Feb 28 00:17:57 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:17:57 +0000 Subject: Copy everything bar one folder In-Reply-To: References: <45E490C7.1070001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <45E4CA35.2090900@googlemail.com> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 2/28/07, *SteVe Cook* > wrote: > > I want to copy everything bar one very large folder from my current > /home partition to another smaller partition and make this new > partition /home. > > The only real problem I'm having is finding out how to copy all the > files bar one. I could copy a few at a time I suppose but that seems > rather long winded. > > Trawling round the web hasn't produced any answers. Any body got any > ideas > > SteVe > > > > Does bar means excluded mate? :-) > > Ok, supposed you have a bar directory, we can lorry the other files > and gotten them copied to a destination directory. > > rsync --exclude=/home/bar -a /home /newhome > > You can always snuck in another --exclude= to rsync. > Thanks everybody for the replies, I knew there would be several options. The one from Cybe R. Wizard being the one I was trying to think of but couldn't. ...and yes bar does mean except. Not the best display of English, but my brain was getting a bit addle at by then. ;-) Thanks SteVe From ubuntu at enelserver.com Wed Feb 28 00:45:15 2007 From: ubuntu at enelserver.com (Leonel) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:45:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: <52099.189.155.114.92.1172623515.squirrel@enelserver.com> > Not sure why this didn't go through the first time... but I'll try it > again. > > On 02/26/2007 11:03 AM, Leonel wrote: >> Hello >> >> I have a 2wire router and I need to connect an Ubuntu Edgy >> There's no ethernet only USB >> I can't find any info to use the USB to connect to the net >> The router has a DHCP server and it connects to the dsl provider >> With windows ( yuck ) works with the usb but I can't find info about >> how >> to connect to the router with the USB >> >> Any info ? >> >> Leonel >> >> >> > > Should be pretty much the same as setting up for Redhat. From the 2wire > site: > > Red Hat Linux 7.2, 7.3 , 8.0 > > 1. Open the Network Administration Tool (redhat-config-network). > > 2. Select Network Configuration. > > a. DHCP Setup > > - Select DHCP for the Network Type. > > b. Static Setup (Advanced) > > - Select Static IP for the Network Type. > > - Enter an IP in the range of the current HomePortal scheme > (172.16.x.x, 192.168.x.x, or 10.0.x.x) > > - Enter the Netmask (generally 255.255.0.0) > > - Enter the Gateway (172.16.0.1, 192.168.0.1, or 10.0.0.1) > > - Enter the Name Server (same as above) > > For Unbuntu: > System|Administration|Networking > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=2wire+%2Bubuntu&btnG=Search > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12194 > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > I'm I Blind or there's no info on how to set up a USB connection to the 2Wire with Ubuntu edgy ? leonel From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Wed Feb 28 00:43:44 2007 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (wim delvaux) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:43:44 +0100 Subject: feisty : inserting CD will no longer popup dialog Message-ID: <200702280143.44420.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> What might be wrong ? From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 28 01:40:30 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:40:30 -0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172617545.24871.19.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> <1172617545.24871.19.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: On 02/27/2007 03:05 PM, Mikael Backman wrote: > I tried to follow your advice.. .. under places->network an icon > called 'windows-network' is shown. But it is empty > > First off you are looking for Places|Network Servers *not* Places| Windows anything. If this does not show up (Places|Network Servers) then: Places|Connect to Server Service type: Windows share Server: IP address of the windows machine is the easiest if it is a fixed IP. If not then click on the help button & that will give you more detailed instructions, but you really should only need the IP address or the proper name of the Windows machine. Then click connect. Now go back to Places| and you should see the name of the windows machine, example: I have a Windows machine named 'Willie' or I used the IP address of 192.168.7.100, I'd now see Willie or 192.168.7.100 under the Places menu. On the Windows machine is it essential that you set up the linux machine as a user. On the linux machine open up a terminal window & you'll see: homeusername at machinename:~$. Either homeusername or machinename is ok, write them down. On the Windows machine: - In your computer management (I'm using Win2KP but XP has the same) add the homeusername or machinename as a valid user. If this is a closed network and you want to test, then add the name as an Administrator & User. For obvious security reasons you'll want to change this later to simply user etc. For testing, set the password and set it to never expire. (Security warning same as above). - From the Windows Explorer right click on the directory you want to share and go to "Sharing". Make sure that "Share this folder" is set, then click on "Permissions" and make sure that the permissions at least allow "Read". For testing you might want to make sure that Administrators have all permissions set (security warnings apply). Click on Security and makes sure that at least Read & List Folder contents all set on Allow. It is not necessary to edit your /etc/hosts file to include the Windows machine. One thing that *is* helpful however is to set both the windows and linux machine domains to the same. In otherwords, if your windows machine domain is 'workgroup' and the linux machine is 'mshome' there may be conflicts later on. It's best to set them both the same. To do this on the linux machine: System|Networking|General Hostname: machinename Domain name: mshome (or workgroup etc) The information provided to you by Wei-Yee Chan should have worked. You might want to reinstall/check your Samba server, start here: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy or here if you are running Dapper http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper Scroll down to section 1.19.5 Samba Server (21.3 on Dapper) - Install the server and smbfs: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs Given that you only want to browse the Windows directories you needn't bother (yet) about setting up the shares on your linux machine for the windows user. However if you want the windows machine to browse etc on your linux machine you'll need to follow the rest of the instructions in 1.19.5 to set up the windows user on your machine. It's worth spending time reviewing the wiki's that I've provided. From chanweiyee at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 02:07:32 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:07:32 +0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <1172617545.24871.19.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> <1172617545.24871.19.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E4E3E4.9060105@gmail.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > I tried to follow your advice.. .. under places->network an icon > called 'windows-network' is shown. But it is empty Was it present before U followed my steps? So, when U click on it, it's empty? Tell me the IP addresses of your router and your machines. Are you running a firewall on any of the machines? 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To do > this on the linux machine: > > System|Networking|General > Hostname: machinename > Domain name: mshome (or workgroup etc) Ah, yes. I forgot about the domain name altogether. Thanks for reminding me. I can't remember how I did it on Dapper but on Edgy, it's: System-Administration-Networking, followed by a final click of the "General" tab, Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From hardeep.rai at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 03:19:37 2007 From: hardeep.rai at gmail.com (H.S.Rai) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:37 +0530 Subject: On sparcUltra150 Message-ID: I found only serverISO for sparc and not wirkstation. Can not we make Sun Sparc workstation? I tried Draper on SparcUltra150, which failed and search led me to following bug (which is yet to resolve) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/40119 Will FeistyFawn or EdgyEft install? or same bug make that installation also not possible. -- H.S.Rai =================== From alex at ourwoods.org Wed Feb 28 04:08:29 2007 From: alex at ourwoods.org (Alex Janssen) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:08:29 -0500 Subject: Firefox - Unexpected response from server Message-ID: <45E5003D.3090209@ourwoods.org> For some time now I've endured these messages, "Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server." from Firefox when trying to load secure pages with the HTTPS protocol. I was able to boot Firefox before loading such a page to get it to load properly, but now, even that fails after the most recent updates of today. Can anybody enlighten me as to how to fix this. Thanks, Alex -- Ourwoods.org Charlottesville, Virginia From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:21:45 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:21:45 +0800 Subject: A question about Samba in Feisty. In-Reply-To: References: <45E41123.2090407@yandex.ru> Message-ID: On 2/28/07, NoOp wrote: > > On 02/27/2007 03:40 AM, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > On 2/27/07, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> > >> Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I haven't tried using Samba in Feisty, is Samba works now without > >> > running smbpasswd for certain users? can Windows easily connect to a > >> > Samba share? And does printer sharing "just works" in Feisty? > >> > > >> > I really need to know if Samba will fit right, or we're going to use > >> > FTP. It would be used in over 300+ campuses. > >> > > >> > Joel > >> > -- > >> > Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. > >> > > >> > >> I'm using samba in feisty, you will still need to run smbpasswd, but > >> that's a piece of cake. My one is sharing a printer also, under > >> [printers] I only had to change one thing; and it was to add this line: > >> > >> use client driver = yes > >> > >> So it pretty much works out of the box ;) > >> > > > > I'm asking this because Samba in Edgy doesn't work well as it should be > in > > the > > people who use it. Due to disappointments we receive from the admins who > set > > it up, we're looking for alternatives, currently FTP and Multicast > > Filesharing is what we have. > > > > > > Have a look here: > http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Samba_Server > and > > http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Samba_Web_Administration_Tool_.28SWAT.29 > > Perhaps you they are just setting it up incorrectly? > > I'm am sure they are setting things up incorrectly, It's harder to talk to those admins than to setup things correctly, What can I do, they "Know it All". -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 28 05:35:36 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:35:36 -0800 Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: <52099.189.155.114.92.1172623515.squirrel@enelserver.com> References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> <52099.189.155.114.92.1172623515.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: On 02/27/2007 04:45 PM, Leonel wrote: > > > I'm I Blind or there's no info on how to set up a USB connection to the > 2Wire with Ubuntu edgy ? > > > leonel > > > I'm not sure that I understand. Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided: 1. The exact 2wire model number 2. What you see in System|Administration|Networking (does it appear) 3. What happens when you try to log in via http://gateway.2wire.net or the actual IP for the device? 4. What do you get when you check ifconfig from the terminal? etc., etc. From telecon at infosyndicate.net Wed Feb 28 05:38:00 2007 From: telecon at infosyndicate.net (telecon at infosyndicate.net) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:38:00 -0700 Subject: On sparcUltra150 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070228053800.GB11618@infosyndicate.net> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:49:37AM +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > I found only serverISO for sparc and not wirkstation. Can not we make > Sun Sparc workstation? > > I tried Draper on SparcUltra150, which failed and search led me to > following bug (which is yet to resolve) > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/40119 > > Will FeistyFawn or EdgyEft install? or same bug make that installation > also not possible. I have one of the distros, edgy, I think running on a Sun Blade 150, and it works. You can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get a standard desktop. I personally use it headless though. From a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 28 06:10:07 2007 From: a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net (Anthony M Simonelli) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:10:07 -0600 Subject: Easily mount SMB Share on Per User Basis Message-ID: <1172643007.5063.31.camel@ams-laptop> I have a Ubuntu 6.10 LTSP5 Server running. I will be adding users to this server that require a connection to a single Windows Share running on a Windows NT Server. Each need to mount this share, but using each user's credentials so that the correct permissions are applied. Therefore, there will be a mount for each user to the same Windows Share in their HOME directory. I need it mounted because then the share can be searched and programs that don't use Gnome-vfs can open files, such as Adobe Reader. My question is, how can I have this share mounted automatically at login? Would the best solution would be to write a script that uses smbmount and have it run with Gnome's Startup Programs section? Then maybe use zenity for an UI to maintain a "credentials" file for the script to use when authenticating? Does anyone know an easier way? PS: I don't want to use SMB4K, even though that program is fantastic, since it doesn't integrate well with Gnome/Ubuntu and will be more problematic than a help, so if anyone knows of a similar program for Gnome, let me know. From shettypraj at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 06:29:58 2007 From: shettypraj at gmail.com (Pushparaj Shetty) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:59:58 +0530 Subject: feisty : inserting CD will no longer popup dialog In-Reply-To: <200702280143.44420.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> References: <200702280143.44420.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> Message-ID: Hello, Goto System->Preferences->Removable drives and media, make sure that appropriate controls are checked. Pushparaj On 2/28/07, wim delvaux wrote: > What might be wrong ? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From garyjarrel at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 10:41:41 2007 From: garyjarrel at gmail.com (Gary Jarrel) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:41:41 +1100 Subject: sun-java6 Message-ID: <995b0fb00702280241j6d662111hf78de377b00ea80c@mail.gmail.com> Is it just me or did sun-java5 got replaced with sun-java6 in the edgy repositories? If so how am I able to install the sun-java5 from the repositories, rather than manually? Thank you! Gary From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 11:25:21 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:25:21 +0100 Subject: sun-java6 In-Reply-To: <995b0fb00702280241j6d662111hf78de377b00ea80c@mail.gmail.com> References: <995b0fb00702280241j6d662111hf78de377b00ea80c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Gary Jarrel a écrit : > Is it just me or did sun-java5 got replaced with sun-java6 in the edgy > repositories? If so how am I able to install the sun-java5 from the > repositories, rather than manually? > > Thank you! > > Gary > I still have java5 and it hasn't been replaced by java6 so far . The two of them are in repositories. From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 11:46:23 2007 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:46:23 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu on Dell (was [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!) In-Reply-To: <1172522409.7399.2.camel@duncan-laptop> References: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1172522409.7399.2.camel@duncan-laptop> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0702280346u165b4513u9a8f43bd328dcd4d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/07, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:18 -0600, Dave Grundgeiger wrote: > > >From the Dell site: > > "... we are working with Novell > I have just sent them a note pointing out that they should be certifying > against the Linux Standards Base and not any one distribution. That's > much better than doing a "Does it work with distro 'x'" dance. Not only that, the fact that it's Novell they're working with makes me less likely to seek a Linux system from Dell. Until Novell ejects Microsoft from the equation, I'm not interested in having anything to do with SuSE Linux. -- Chris memes don't exist -- tell your friends From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Wed Feb 28 12:17:03 2007 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (wim delvaux) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:17:03 +0100 Subject: feisty : inserting CD will no longer popup dialog In-Reply-To: References: <200702280143.44420.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> Message-ID: <200702281317.03439.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> On Wednesday 28 February 2007 07:29:58 Pushparaj Shetty wrote: > Hello, > Goto System->Preferences->Removable drives and media, make sure that > appropriate controls are checked. > Pushparaj 1 I have no system->Preferences 2. in my system settings i have periferals and then storage media. In that tab there is a list of applications that should be shown in the dialog and on the advanced the 'enable medium application autostart after mount' is checked. W From ubuntu at enelserver.com Wed Feb 28 12:29:34 2007 From: ubuntu at enelserver.com (Leonel) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:29:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> <52099.189.155.114.92.1172623515.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: <46522.189.155.123.135.1172665774.squirrel@enelserver.com> > On 02/27/2007 04:45 PM, Leonel wrote: > >> >> >> I'm I Blind or there's no info on how to set up a USB connection to the >> 2Wire with Ubuntu edgy ? >> >> >> leonel >> >> >> > > I'm not sure that I understand. > > Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided: > > 1. The exact 2wire model number I don't know I don't have it here with me > 2. What you see in System|Administration|Networking (does it appear) No > 3. What happens when you try to log in via http://gateway.2wire.net or > the actual IP for the device? I CAN'T > 4. What do you get when you check ifconfig from the terminal? Just the lo device Let me put it this way How do I assign an IP Address to a my USB port so I can connect to ANY other device modprobe ifconfig 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.0.0.0 where and I don't know what to use for a USB port not for a USB ( wireless/ ethernet) device My friend has the usb connected to the 2wire and works in windows I installed Edgy and can't connect to the 2wire using the USB cable Thanks Leonel From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Wed Feb 28 14:44:35 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:44:35 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on Dell (was [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!) In-Reply-To: <143f0f6c0702280346u165b4513u9a8f43bd328dcd4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1172522409.7399.2.camel@duncan-laptop> <143f0f6c0702280346u165b4513u9a8f43bd328dcd4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070228154435.a432b8d3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Christofer C. Bell" wrote: > Not only that, the fact that it's Novell they're working with makes me > less likely to seek a Linux system from Dell. Until Novell ejects > Microsoft from the equation, I'm not interested in having anything to > do with SuSE Linux. Don't worry....Dell also said they were currtently working to certify against other major distros, which most probably includes Ubuntu I would guess ! :-) -- Vince From mback99 at glocalnet.net Wed Feb 28 15:10:23 2007 From: mback99 at glocalnet.net (Mikael Backman) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:10:23 +0100 Subject: domain name.. Message-ID: <1172675423.21576.2.camel@mb-laptop> How can I set the domaine name in one ubuntu box and and one windows xp box? I want them to be the same... From andreas at tiddelipom.com Wed Feb 28 15:29:49 2007 From: andreas at tiddelipom.com (Andreas) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:29:49 +0100 Subject: Iptables and ip aliasing? Message-ID: <45E59FED.3070109@tiddelipom.com> Hi, I've got a firewall with 3 interfaces on, one internal nic, one external and one for the dmz. Today we only have one ip address, which is a fully routable address on the external nic. But we're expanding and getting a whole c-class net. I know that I can use ip aliases to replicate the external nic with more addresses, like this: eth0:1 eth0:2 etc But I've read somewhere that Iptables does not work with ip aliases. How do I make my firewall have say 5 ip addresses on the external nic, with iptables working? Is it possible? Regards, Andreas From smccuan at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 15:41:50 2007 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:41:50 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu on Dell (was [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!) In-Reply-To: <20070228154435.a432b8d3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <007801c759e3$487abcc0$6400e40a@stellaluna> <1172522409.7399.2.camel@duncan-laptop> <143f0f6c0702280346u165b4513u9a8f43bd328dcd4d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228154435.a432b8d3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Novell is just looking to legally protect their clients. A big deal for enterprises. Morally - not so great though. On 2/28/07, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > "Christofer C. Bell" wrote: > > Not only that, the fact that it's Novell they're working with makes me > > less likely to seek a Linux system from Dell. Until Novell ejects > > Microsoft from the equation, I'm not interested in having anything to > > do with SuSE Linux. > > Don't worry....Dell also said they were currtently working to certify > against other major distros, which most probably includes Ubuntu I > would guess ! :-) > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 15:52:54 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard Nagle) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:52:54 -0500 Subject: database In-Reply-To: <954321e10702261504y43bda10ck67cffd1abab4c1db@mail.gmail.com> References: <954321e10702261504y43bda10ck67cffd1abab4c1db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, more power and open source...! Rich On 2/26/07, n a wrote: > > I'm confused. You are looking for a tomboy-like app (with more power) that > is open source? > > nick > > On 2/26/07, Richard Nagle < cms0009 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > looking for a open forum database, that can use wiki style linking, > > to link docs, and text clips..etc, must a searching function. > > > > NOT Tomboy...pls (something with allot more power) > > > > Anyone? > > > > TKS - > > Rich > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hs.samix at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 16:14:00 2007 From: hs.samix at gmail.com (H.S.) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:14:00 -0500 Subject: system wide gnome desktop configuration Message-ID: Hello, How can I make system wide configuration changes in Gnome? For example, on all users' desktop: 1. Volumes icons should not appear. 2. CDROM and DVD icons should appear. 3. A bunch of PDF files (located in /usr/local/share/doc) should appear as links (these are some custom help files and should be easy to find by all users without having to know what "/usr/local/share" is!). Suggestions? ->HS From p.echols at comcast.net Wed Feb 28 16:43:42 2007 From: p.echols at comcast.net (Patton Echols) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:43:42 -0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E5B13E.9030400@comcast.net> On 02/27/2007 12:14 PM, Wei-Yee Chan wrote: > Mikael Backman wrote: > >> I want to see the windows box from ubuntu.. I have shared two folders >> in windows.. But they don't show up in linux.. Sorry if these are very >> basic questions.. >> > On your Windoze machine, right-click on the folder and choose > "Properties". Under the "Sharing" tab, give your share a name. U > should see a hand icon after that. > > Are U using Gnome? If so, click on "Place" followed by "Network > Servers". Do U see anything there? > > Make sure U have the packages libgnomevfs2-extra, smbclient, > samba-common and smbfs installed. > > Also ensure that your Windoze machine has a fixed IP. Is that really required? My laptop, with basically a default Edgy install, can see shares on my office computers with static IPs. It can also see the share on my home computer which has the IP assigned by DHCP. (Perhaps it is just luck that the IP has not changed . . .) > If your using > your router as a DHCP server, configure your router to reserve a > specific IP for your Windoze machine (refer to your router manual), for > instance, 192.168.1.5. > > Alternatively, U could set the static IP on your Windoze machine. If U > do that, you'd have to set static IPs for your other machine(s) as well, > to avoid IP conflicts. Well, you certainly need to do something to avoid conflicts. But I find it easier to limit the DHCP server's available range. eg, my office router can assign addresses from 192.168.0.10-20. Machines that need static IPs are in the 2-9 range or 21+. Patton From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 17:01:14 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:01:14 +0100 Subject: system wide gnome desktop configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: H.S. a écrit : > Hello, > > How can I make system wide configuration changes in Gnome? For example, > on all users' desktop: > > 1. Volumes icons should not appear. > 2. CDROM and DVD icons should appear. > 3. A bunch of PDF files (located in /usr/local/share/doc) should appear > as links (these are some custom help files and should be easy to find by > all users without having to know what "/usr/local/share" is!). > > Suggestions? > ->HS > > There is 2 ways to understand what you want to do : 1. do you want to create a model for all users you'll create ? if so , create a first account, set that account up to fit your model. Then copy the concerned config files into /etc/skel/ . 2. If you want to make those changes for all existing users I think you'll have to create a script that do it. Loop in the users list and apply the changes . From ed.smits at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 17:09:32 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:09:32 -0500 Subject: How do I submit a Device report to the database Message-ID: Just installed Feisty on my other laptop, all is good. Did the report for the device database, but it couldn't connect at the time, left a compressed file on my desktop with instructions to email it in, now I can't remember where to mail it.... ED From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Wed Feb 28 17:25:03 2007 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:25:03 +0100 Subject: How do I submit a Device report to the database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070228182503.44702bc8.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Ed Smits" wrote: > Just installed Feisty on my other laptop, all is good. Did the report > for the device database, but it couldn't connect at the time, left a > compressed file on my desktop with instructions to email it in, now I > can't remember where to mail it.... Hi, You should send it to: hwdb at ubuntu.com -- Vince From james.gray at dot.com.au Wed Feb 28 17:26:38 2007 From: james.gray at dot.com.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:26:38 +1100 Subject: Iptables and ip aliasing? In-Reply-To: <45E59FED.3070109@tiddelipom.com> References: <45E59FED.3070109@tiddelipom.com> Message-ID: <45E5BB4E.6030208@dot.com.au> Andreas wrote: > Hi, > I've got a firewall with 3 interfaces on, one internal nic, one external > and one for the dmz. > > Today we only have one ip address, which is a fully routable address on > the external nic. But we're expanding and getting a whole c-class net. I > know that I can use ip aliases to replicate the external nic with more > addresses, like this: > eth0:1 > eth0:2 > etc > > But I've read somewhere that Iptables does not work with ip aliases. How > do I make my firewall have say 5 ip addresses on the external nic, with > iptables working? Is it possible? It's possible and it works, but there is one notable limitation; the "virtual" interfaces have the same MAC address as the "real" interface. So if you plan on doing granular layer-2 (MAC address) filtering, you may have problems. Other than that, there's nothing particularly difficult about your plans; 1. get class-C network 2. Add virtual interfaces to ethX:Y 3. Create iptables rules for different IP's as you would normally FWIW, I've never tried doing "interface" rules using virtual interfaces, ie, iptables -A INPUT -i ethX:Y .... So I have no idea if that would work, but considering the MAC limitation, and the fact the virtual interface only has a single IP, I really can't see much point in the idea ;). The other thing I haven't tried is creating a rule to match all traffic on the real interface AND all the virtual interfaces in one rule (ie, ethX and all ethX:Y). I guess, you could simply match on MAC address in the destination of the INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD chain, but once again, I think there are better ways to achieve this. Cheers, James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3253 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 28 17:30:46 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:30:46 -0500 Subject: sound lost completely - again Message-ID: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> weird... this morning i get an update notice... I run the update. I also cleaned up some desktop junk, and did a reboot of the box. No sound anywhere... this isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm wondering what is going on with Dapper and Edgy that every third update turns off all sound. gymsmoke at croatus:~$ amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 19 [61%] [on] Front Right: Playback 19 [61%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 22 [71%] [on] Front Right: Playback 22 [71%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Jack Sense',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Line Jack Sense',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Front Left: Capture [on] Front Right: Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 15 Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [on] Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] gymsmoke at croatus:~$ From chanweiyee at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 17:50:14 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:50:14 +0800 Subject: network newbie question In-Reply-To: <45E5B13E.9030400@comcast.net> References: <1172588917.24871.4.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4658F.3080000@comcast.net> <1172598284.24871.12.camel@mb-laptop> <45E4911C.4050103@gmail.com> <45E5B13E.9030400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45E5C0D6.40804@gmail.com> Patton Echols wrote: > Is that really required? My laptop, with basically a default Edgy > install, can see shares on my office computers with static IPs. It can > also see the share on my home computer which has the IP assigned by > DHCP. (Perhaps it is just luck that the IP has not changed . . .) > It's always beneficial for a server to have a fixed IP. I don't know about Linux machines but in my experience, Windoze machines get "confused" almost all the time when U don't have a fixed IP. It may not be necessary, but I deem it as good practice to do that. When I fix the server IP and enter the hostname and server IP into my client computer's host file, the client computer will know where to look immediately, anytime the server's name is called. > Well, you certainly need to do something to avoid conflicts. But I find > it easier to limit the DHCP server's available range. eg, my office > router can assign addresses from 192.168.0.10-20. Machines that need > static IPs are in the 2-9 range or 21+. Yep, in fact, that's what I do, simply becos it's less of a hassle. I reserve IPs for machines that I want to have static IPs and the rest of the available IPs are meant for people who come visiting and need to connect to my network wirelessly. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chanweiyee at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 17:50:28 2007 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:50:28 +0800 Subject: domain name.. In-Reply-To: <1172675423.21576.2.camel@mb-laptop> References: <1172675423.21576.2.camel@mb-laptop> Message-ID: <45E5C0E4.4080106@gmail.com> Mikael Backman wrote: > How can I set the domaine name in one ubuntu box and and one windows xp > box? I want them to be the same... On your Linux machine: System-Administration-Networking, followed by a click of the "General" tab. On your Windoze machine: Right-click on the "My computer" icon and choose "Properties". Select the "Computer name" tab. Then click on the "Change" button. Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From golfbuf at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 18:15:23 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:15:23 -0500 Subject: sound lost completely - again In-Reply-To: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> Message-ID: <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/07, John Dangler wrote: > sound anywhere... this isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm > wondering what is going on with Dapper and Edgy that every third update > turns off all sound. no problems here .. maybe it's something with your specific card. perhaps you should malone it. regards, From wade at wadesmart.com Wed Feb 28 18:23:41 2007 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:23:41 -0600 Subject: sound lost completely - again In-Reply-To: <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> 06282007 1222 GMT-6 Im on 6.06LTS and I noticed that too for a while. But then it stopped doing that. (That being the sound turning off.) I dont know why but it did. I noticed that it worked again after a very large update. Much of had something in it that did the trick. wade On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:15 -0500, golfer wrote: > On 2/28/07, John Dangler wrote: > > sound anywhere... this isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm > > wondering what is going on with Dapper and Edgy that every third update > > turns off all sound. > > no problems here .. maybe it's something with your specific card. > perhaps you should malone it. > > regards, > From PNewberry at habitat.org Wed Feb 28 18:53:22 2007 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:53:22 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus><835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL is 39.95) She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a specific IP address. Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go down to pick up my dsl modem? Thanks pat From arthur at johnsonfamilymi.us Wed Feb 28 19:13:35 2007 From: arthur at johnsonfamilymi.us (Arthur H. Johnson II) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:13:35 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <1172690015.15715.21.camel@amethyst.ablehost.com> Hey guys, thought I'd chime in. I'm new to the Ubuntu world, but have been in the Linux realm since 1996. I can't think of anything you should ask. If its anything like a cable modem you should be able to just obtain your IP address automatically via DHCP. On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:53 -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > is 39.95) > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > specific IP address. > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > Thanks > > pat > From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Wed Feb 28 19:22:41 2007 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:22:41 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus><835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <45E5D681.2060506@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Newberry wrote: > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > is 39.95) > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > specific IP address. > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > Thanks > > pat > The IP address for you modem. It will usually be something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 - this will be needed to access the web interface for configuring your modem, as clearly you won't be using the Windows-only (and usually supremely bad) software interface for it. Beyond that you just visit http://that.IP after plugging into your modem and poke around. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5daB6iO+5ByUi/QRAs15AJ43Tp3DAaFvPUs7wWeCgCcbxhOfZwCff+Gc 6kibUfCBAljLCWGIgmo5DQo= =3AN7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed.smits at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 19:28:46 2007 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:28:46 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <1172690015.15715.21.camel@amethyst.ablehost.com> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <1172690015.15715.21.camel@amethyst.ablehost.com> Message-ID: unfortunately most DSL's in Canada at least run PPPoE, I assume the same might be true elsewhere as well, in which case you'll need to install the PPPoE drivers and configure it I manage my PPPoE through my router (so other machines can all use the same DSL line), no need for Linux to be set up, but I assume that the forum will have how-to's galore on the problem. ED On 2/28/07, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: > Hey guys, thought I'd chime in. I'm new to the Ubuntu world, but have > been in the Linux realm since 1996. > > I can't think of anything you should ask. If its anything like a cable > modem you should be able to just obtain your IP address automatically > via DHCP. > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:53 -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > > is 39.95) > > > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > > specific IP address. > > > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > > > Thanks > > > > pat > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Feb 28 19:31:46 2007 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:31:46 -0500 Subject: sound lost completely - again In-Reply-To: <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1172691106.4709.24.camel@croatus> On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 12:23 -0600, Wade Smart wrote: > 06282007 1222 GMT-6 > > Im on 6.06LTS and I noticed that too for a while. But then it stopped > doing that. (That being the sound turning off.) I dont know why but it > did. I noticed that it worked again after a very large update. Much of > had something in it that did the trick. > > wade Well, not wanting to wait for the next tsunami sized update, any ideas as to how I can get sound to come back? > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:15 -0500, golfer wrote: > > On 2/28/07, John Dangler wrote: > > > sound anywhere... this isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm > > > wondering what is going on with Dapper and Edgy that every third update > > > turns off all sound. > > > > no problems here .. maybe it's something with your specific card. > > perhaps you should malone it. > > > > regards, > > > > From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Wed Feb 28 19:39:49 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:39:49 -0500 Subject: Help with source files Message-ID: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> Hi, When I try to compile this program I get an error #include "/usr/include/linux/elf.h" int main() { return 0; } This is the error I get from the compiler In file included from /usr/include/asm/elf.h:7, from /usr/include/linux/elf.h:7, from test.cpp:1: /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:10:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file or directory /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:11:47: error: asm/system.h: No such file or directory Does anybody know how to get those files? Thanx, -- Robe. Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Feb 28 19:51:06 2007 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:51:06 +0000 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus><835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <45E5DD2A.4090709@yandex.ru> Patrick Newberry wrote: > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > is 39.95) > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > specific IP address. > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > Thanks > > pat > Hi During my year in China I had 2mbit DSL and I connected using the provided modem. The thing is, does the modem have an ethernet connection or USB. If it uses USB only then you'll probably have a hard time getting it to work in Linux. If you can connect the modem to your network card then all you have to do in linux is: sudo pppoeconf and the rest is easy! Back in the UK I joined Tiscali, they gave me some piece-of-sh** USB modem, I didn't even try to give myself a headache setting it up, got a wireless router instead :P From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:56:17 2007 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:56:17 +0000 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <45E5DE61.9070602@manchester.ac.uk> Robe, Robe wrote: > Hi, > > When I try to compile this program I get an error > > #include "/usr/include/linux/elf.h" > > int main() > { > > return 0; > } > > This is the error I get from the compiler > > In file included from /usr/include/asm/elf.h:7, > from /usr/include/linux/elf.h:7, > from test.cpp:1: > /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:10:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:11:47: error: asm/system.h: No such file or > directory > > Does anybody know how to get those files? I just compiled this OK on my Dapper system. I have installed the build-essential package and also the linux-headers package, so maybe the files are in one of those somewhere. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 20:03:54 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:03:54 +0100 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: Robe a écrit : > Hi, > > When I try to compile this program I get an error > > #include "/usr/include/linux/elf.h" > > int main() > { > > return 0; > } > > This is the error I get from the compiler > > In file included from /usr/include/asm/elf.h:7, > from /usr/include/linux/elf.h:7, > from test.cpp:1: > /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:10:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/include/asm-i386/elf.h:11:47: error: asm/system.h: No such file or > directory > > Does anybody know how to get those files? > > Thanx, > > -- > > Robe. > use apt-file to know what packages contain the file you seek . ~$ apt-file search asm/processor.h > libuclibc-dev: usr/i386-uclibc-linux/include/asm/processor.h > xen-doc-2.6.16: > usr/share/doc/xen-doc-2.6.16/Documentation/include/asm-i386/mach-xen/asm/processor.h.gz > xen-doc-2.6.16: > usr/share/doc/xen-doc-2.6.16/Documentation/include/asm-x86_64/mach-xen/asm/processor.h.gz > xen-doc-2.6.17: > usr/share/doc/xen-doc-2.6.17/Documentation/include/asm-i386/mach-xen/asm/processor.h.gz > xen-doc-2.6.17: > usr/share/doc/xen-doc-2.6.17/Documentation/include/asm-x86_64/mach-xen/asm/processor.h.gz > xen-headers-2.6.16: > usr/src/xen-headers-2.6.16/include/asm-i386/mach-xen/asm/processor.h > xen-headers-2.6.17-6: > usr/src/xen-headers-2.6.17-6/include/asm-i386/mach-xen/asm/processor.h > xen-headers-2.6.17-6: > usr/src/xen-headers-2.6.17-6/include/asm-x86_64/mach-xen/asm/processor.h From andreas at tiddelipom.com Wed Feb 28 20:07:51 2007 From: andreas at tiddelipom.com (Andreas) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:07:51 +0100 Subject: Iptables and ip aliasing? In-Reply-To: <45E5BB4E.6030208@dot.com.au> References: <45E59FED.3070109@tiddelipom.com> <45E5BB4E.6030208@dot.com.au> Message-ID: <45E5E117.8040104@tiddelipom.com> James Gray wrote: > It's possible and it works, but there is one notable limitation; the > "virtual" interfaces have the same MAC address as the "real" > interface. So if you plan on doing granular layer-2 (MAC address) > filtering, you may have problems. Thanks James, I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Let you know how it went. /Andreas From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Wed Feb 28 20:19:38 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:19:38 -0500 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> I've tried apt-file search asm/processor.h and I get this error bash: apt-file: command not found. Do I have to install "apt-file"? Help me I'm new in Linux. Thanx, -- Robe.   Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. From gt at fallendusk.org Wed Feb 28 20:29:42 2007 From: gt at fallendusk.org (Greg Helton) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:29:42 -0500 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> Yes, just run "sudo apt-get install apt-file" On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 15:19 -0500, Robe wrote: > I've tried > > apt-file search asm/processor.h > > and I get this error > > bash: apt-file: command not found. > > Do I have to install "apt-file"? > > Help me I'm new in Linux. > > Thanx, > > -- > Robe. > > Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. > > > > > From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 28 20:34:54 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:34:54 +1100 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <20070301073454.ec6e2ee4.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:19:38 -0500 "Robe" wrote: > and I get this error > > bash: apt-file: command not found. > > Do I have to install "apt-file"? Yes :) sudo apt-get install apt-file then sudo apt-file update ( running the second command after upgrades or when you install new software will refresh the file list and keep it accurate) Peter From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 20:32:25 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:32:25 +0100 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> Message-ID: Greg Helton a écrit : > Yes, just run "sudo apt-get install apt-file" > and then : apt-file update that will set up the database. From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Wed Feb 28 20:51:46 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:51:46 -0500 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> Message-ID: <001001c75b7a$4356acc0$ca040640$@telemar.cu> > Yes, just run "sudo apt-get install apt-file" That's great it's working now but I get nothing when I try this apt-file search asm/processor.h Anybody know why? Thanx, -- Robe. Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 28 21:03:13 2007 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:03:13 +1100 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <001001c75b7a$4356acc0$ca040640$@telemar.cu> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> <001001c75b7a$4356acc0$ca040640$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <20070301080313.2aa7f0e0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:51:46 -0500 "Robe" wrote: > > Yes, just run "sudo apt-get install apt-file" > > That's great it's working now but I get nothing when I try this > > apt-file search asm/processor.h > > Anybody know why? Did you update the database with sudo apt-file update ? Peter From robe at prodal.telemar.cu Wed Feb 28 21:09:48 2007 From: robe at prodal.telemar.cu (Robe) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:09:48 -0500 Subject: Help with source files In-Reply-To: <20070301080313.2aa7f0e0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <000001c75b70$35ef52d0$a1cdf870$@telemar.cu> <000f01c75b75$c5710c50$505324f0$@telemar.cu> <1172694583.27095.0.camel@kuri> <001001c75b7a$4356acc0$ca040640$@telemar.cu> <20070301080313.2aa7f0e0.peter.garrett@optusnet Message-ID: <001101c75b7c$c7998d70$56cca850$@telemar.cu> > Did you update the database with > sudo apt-file update ? I'm doing that right now. I didn't know that. Thanks folks for all your help, -- Robe.   Hablamos de matar el tiempo como si no fuera él quien nos mata a nosotros. From eric.dunbar at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 21:42:41 2007 From: eric.dunbar at gmail.com (Eric Dunbar) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:42:41 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <1172690015.15715.21.camel@amethyst.ablehost.com> Message-ID: <77520bee0702281342u6801163akd75f46432b66cec3@mail.gmail.com> My apologies to all for top posting. Most providers that use PPPoE now provide modems that are also routers. You set up the modem through a web interface and don't have to configure anything in the computer anymore. What happens is that you connect the (A)DSL modem to the phone line. Then you connect the computer to the modem, open up your web browser and try to access any website. The modem should serve up a configuration page where you enter your ADSL username and password. Some modems may require you to access a specific address (e.g. 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.255) to get that configuration screen. Eric. On 28/02/07, Ed Smits wrote: > unfortunately most DSL's in Canada at least run PPPoE, I assume the > same might be true elsewhere as well, in which case you'll need to > install the PPPoE drivers and configure it > > I manage my PPPoE through my router (so other machines can all use the > same DSL line), no need for Linux to be set up, but I assume that the > forum will have how-to's galore on the problem. > > ED > > On 2/28/07, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: > > Hey guys, thought I'd chime in. I'm new to the Ubuntu world, but have > > been in the Linux realm since 1996. > > > > I can't think of anything you should ask. If its anything like a cable > > modem you should be able to just obtain your IP address automatically > > via DHCP. > > > > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 13:53 -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > > > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > > > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > > > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > > > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > > > is 39.95) > > > > > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > > > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > > > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > > > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > > > > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > > > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > > > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > > > specific IP address. > > > > > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > > > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From john.moniz at sympatico.ca Wed Feb 28 23:13:04 2007 From: john.moniz at sympatico.ca (John Moniz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:13:04 -0500 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <45E5D681.2060506@earthlink.net> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus><835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> <45E5D681.2060506@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <45E60C80.6070903@sympatico.ca> Anthony Yarusso wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Patrick Newberry wrote: > > >>I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is >>my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be >>offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I >>wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL >>is 39.95) >> >>She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not >>have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the >>phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess >>she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. >> >>So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl >>modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing >>I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a >>specific IP address. >> >>Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go >>down to pick up my dsl modem? >> >>Thanks >> >>pat >> >> >> >The IP address for you modem. It will usually be something like >192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 - this will be needed to access the web >interface for configuring your modem, as clearly you won't be using >the Windows-only (and usually supremely bad) software interface for >it. Beyond that you just visit http://that.IP after plugging into >your modem and poke around. > The modem won't have an IP address, but a router will. I think all he'll get from the ISP will be a modem. What would be good to get from the ISP are the DNS IP addresses, the POP server name (or IMAP if that is what the ISP uses) and SMTP server name. That will likely be provided with an info package. All PPPoE software would be available in any modern linux distro. Nothing is needed from the ISP that is specific to Linux, just don't use any software they provide. If you are not using a router, just set up a network for DSL. From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:19:13 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:19:13 -0300 Subject: Web-Camera help configure D-Link DSB-C320 USB Message-ID: <45E60DF1.1090900@gmail.com> Just Installed Ubuntu 7.04 Was given a new web cam D-link DSB-C320 USB but have no Idea how to get it working. lsusb shows : Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:0302 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0302 WebCam Can someone provide step by step configuration instructions ? I am not new to Linux I used Debian for several years, but never had a webcam before and no experience with UDEV and procbususb. Please help this is the only way my kids cam see me and I do not want to use anything but Linux. Phil Pinkerton From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:30:17 2007 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:30:17 +0800 Subject: Is that like an Apple ? In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <1172683846.4709.5.camel@croatus> <835a7820702281015w562307ale0c1af6f454584c8@mail.gmail.com> <1172687021.2312.13.camel@localhost> <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3081107B7E8@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: On 3/1/07, Patrick Newberry wrote: > > I just got a call from my local public service telephone company whom is > my ISP for my dial up connection. Turns out they are going to be > offering DSl in the next couple of weeks. The lady on the line ask if I > wanted to get DSL and I said heck yes (I pay 21.95 for dial up and DSL > is 39.95) > > She ask what which version of windows do I have and I told her I did not > have window, but linux. There was this silence on the other end of the > phone for a bit, then she ask: Is the like an Apple computer? I guess > she had never heard of linux! Well I do live way out in the country. > > So anyway a couple of weeks from now I will go down and pick up my dsl > modem. I have already google about dsl set up as I wanted know any thing > I ask before I go down. Looks Like I need to ask if I have to use a > specific IP address. > > Is there anything other configuration questions I should ask when I go > down to pick up my dsl modem? > > Thanks > > pat > Is it like apple?, hmm.. probably it's more like berries, because apples are for sale. :-) Just kiddin' Joking aside, I think if the modem uses an ethernet port, then you don't have much problems with drivers, if it's using an static IP w/ login, you can use pppoeconfig, if it can provide a dynamic IP or it is a DHCP server + modem, you can use it normally without installing anything. If it needs to be connected through USB/Serial/Parallel, then you will need to check if a driver is available for LInux. -- Stay away from Piracy, use Open Source. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Feb 28 23:18:41 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:18:41 -0800 Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: <46522.189.155.123.135.1172665774.squirrel@enelserver.com> References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> <52099.189.155.114.92.1172623515.squirrel@enelserver.com> <46522.189.155.123.135.1172665774.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: On 02/28/2007 04:29 AM, Leonel wrote: >> On 02/27/2007 04:45 PM, Leonel wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I'm I Blind or there's no info on how to set up a USB connection to the >>> 2Wire with Ubuntu edgy ? >>> >>> >>> leonel >>> >>> >>> >> >> I'm not sure that I understand. >> >> Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided: >> >> 1. The exact 2wire model number > > I don't know I don't have it here with me > >> 2. What you see in System|Administration|Networking (does it appear) > No > >> 3. What happens when you try to log in via http://gateway.2wire.net or >> the actual IP for the device? > I CAN'T >> 4. What do you get when you check ifconfig from the terminal? > Just the lo device What do you get when you enter this from a terminal: lsusb That should return info on the device if it actually sees it, such as I get for this on my USB ethernet adaper: Bus 001 Device 002: ID ob95:7720 ASIX Electronics Corp. If lsusb returns no device information then Edgy isn't seeing the device at all. > > > > Let me put it this way > > How do I assign an IP Address to a my USB port so I can connect to ANY > other device > > > modprobe > ifconfig 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > where and I don't know what to use for a USB port > not for a USB ( wireless/ ethernet) device > > > My friend has the usb connected to the 2wire and works in windows > I installed Edgy and can't connect to the 2wire using the USB cable > > > Thanks > > Leonel > > > Without the 2wire model number I'm not sure that I can help much further. FWIW: On one of my systems I use a USB ethernet adapter: Airlink 101 (see: http://www.airlink101.com/products/asohousb.html) and it popped right in without having to add any special drivers. I simply added the IP address, net mask, and gateway (192.168.0.1 for my router) and off it went. That adapter however goes from the USB to an ethernet port on my router. Given your posting IP, I'm assuming that you might be trying to use something like a 2wire Homeportal 1800HW on Unimex. If that is the case you might find these links helpful (or not): http://www3.dslreports.com/faq/twowire/all http://www3.dslreports.com/faq/twowire/all#10957 http://www.kosaraju.com/linux.html Last question: When you boot with the Live CD does it work? Can you browse the network etc via the live CD? From glgxg at mfire.com Mon Feb 26 21:53:55 2007 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:53:55 -0800 Subject: 2wire router usb In-Reply-To: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> References: <51169.189.155.102.59.1172516588.squirrel@enelserver.com> Message-ID: On 02/26/2007 11:03 AM, Leonel wrote: > Hello > > I have a 2wire router and I need to connect an Ubuntu Edgy > There's no ethernet only USB > I can't find any info to use the USB to connect to the net > The router has a DHCP server and it connects to the dsl provider > With windows ( yuck ) works with the usb but I can't find info about how > to connect to the router with the USB > > Any info ? > > Leonel > > > Should be pretty much the same as setting up for Redhat. From the 2wire site: Red Hat Linux 7.2, 7.3 , 8.0 1. Open the Network Administration Tool (redhat-config-network). 2. Select Network Configuration. a. DHCP Setup - Select DHCP for the Network Type. b. Static Setup (Advanced) - Select Static IP for the Network Type. - Enter an IP in the range of the current HomePortal scheme (172.16.x.x, 192.168.x.x, or 10.0.x.x) - Enter the Netmask (generally 255.255.0.0) - Enter the Gateway (172.16.0.1, 192.168.0.1, or 10.0.0.1) - Enter the Name Server (same as above) For Unbuntu: System|Administration|Networking http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=2wire+%2Bubuntu&btnG=Search http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12194 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Feb 25 01:56:54 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:56:54 -0500 Subject: [Bash Scripting] About redirecting an output In-Reply-To: References: <45E0DD21.7050504@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E0ECE6.6050402@gatech.edu> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Matthew Flaschen a écrit : >> Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> I have written a nautilus script >> If you intend your script to specifically be a bash script, you should use: >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> Someone just had an issue a while ago about that; their scripts stopped >> working when sh changed from bash to dash. It could change again, so >> unless you're using POSIX-compliant sh specify which you want. >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> >> > Yep , I changed it to /bin/bash . > > thanks > > PS: my questions are still on :) Sorry, I don't use either of those programs (I have KDE as well), and I can't figure out what you're talking about. :) I just wanted to warn you about the sha-bang issue. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: