[RFC] ShipIt CD-RW

[Rutger van Haasteren]

Also, the development versions are not for daily use. They are for testing.
I don't see the point in shipping those. I think the beta-versions are
overused already (by people just wanting to have Ubuntu w/o any clue of
bugs).

R.

On 4/18/07, ben darby <ben at cvrse.com> wrote:
>
> * John Richard Moser wrote:
> > I've been thinking on ShipIt CDs and the problems with getting them out
> > taking so long.  I could give a long-winded essay; but I'm dealing with
> > people here, so I'll give brief points and you can comment.
> >
> > Summary of the problem:
> >
> >   o ShipIt CDs take too long to get out to users, often times weeks or
> >     months.
> >
> >   o Ubuntu release cycle spans 6 months; ShipIt CDs become a waste of
> >     material after this point for many users.
> >
> >
> > Solutions that fail:
> >
> >   o ShipIt ships faster:  More resources, more expense, more stress on
> >     Canonical.
> >
> >   o ShipIt preorders:  We still have to wait until release before we can
> >     expect anyone to start pressing anything.  The same back-ups arise.
> >
> >   o Longer release cycles:  Too drastic, and marketing fluff.
> >
> >
> > The proposed solution:
> >
> >   I propose we ship Ubuntu ShipIt CDs on CD-RWs.  This would allow users
> >   to order ShipIt CDs during the Alpha/Beta cycles and up-burn as
> >   necessary.  Further, ShipIt CDs could be dual-branded for reuse in the
> >   next release cycle.
> >
> >   o ShipIt can ship CD-RWs during the development cycle.  These CD-RWs
> >     would use special ShipIt-RW art, indicating the disc utilizes CD-RW
> >     storage to house the Ubuntu Operating System.
> >
> >   o ShipIt-RW artwork would contain multiple brands, each with a check
> >     box by it.  The next three releases would appear; so during the
> >     Feisty development cycle, brands for 7.04, 7.10, and 8.04 would
> >     appear.  Alternately, in case of flexible releases (as with Dapper),
> >     the branding "Yv1" and "Yv2" (Y for Year) could replace exact
> >     version numbers; so Feisty would be 7v1 and Feisty+1 would be 7v2.
> >
> >   o ShipIt-RW artwork would display multiple release levels, including
> >    "Alpha" and "Beta" paired with 1-5.  Again, these sit next to check
> >    boxes.
> >
> >   o A write-in box would allow for ShipIt-RW labeling as "Slipstreamed"
> >     (rebuilt with all patches) or a future version.
> >
> >   o ShipIt-RW packs could ship with an erasable marker; eraser fluid
> >    (sponge-bottle of water); and eraser (cloth).  This would facilitate
> >    rebranding by reburning a different release.
> >
> >   o Canonical could ship ShipIt-RW CDs blank, unlabeled, allowing
> >     recipients to burn as needed.
> >
> > I believe the above proposals leave enough room for discussion to come
> > to a useful and unique solution.  I will leave this open for discussion,
> > as I am curious to see if anyone else would enjoy dev-cycle rewritable
> > CDs from ShipIt, and if anyone has a nice solution on how to do this
> right.
>
> i think your missing the point of shipit, in general the people ordering
> these discs are the ones who are unable to download a 700meg iso over
> the internet, or are just looking to try ubuntu for the first time,
> being given the disc from a friend or expo. i cant really see any point
> in canonical sending out blank dvdrws around the world when anyone can
> pick one up from the local milkbar for less than a dollar, as they're
> still going to have to download the images from the internet and anyone
> low on bandwith is not likely to download multiple full prerelease
> iso's. there are many authorised merchants [1] to buy cd's from for only a
> few dollars if you'd like it faster.
>
> [1] - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase#distributor
>
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> ben darby
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