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[Andy]

Hi

On 28/10/06, Eric S. Johansson <esj at harvee.org> wrote:
>  If you do careful analysis, you will find there are
> missing words, in proper tense, and things that sound right when you
> read them out loud but aren't the right words (see in proper tense).
Luckily the human brain is smart, it can correct things as I read them.
I have seen much much worse on a mailing list and I wouldn't have
guessed it was done with speech recognition.

> I also have something in the ballpark of 6-7 thousand lines of Python
> code that I have written using speech recognition over the past five
> years.  That's just my open source project work and no, I don't code for
> a living otherwise I would not be able to speak anymore.
Wow, I couldn't imagine writing code through speech recognition, is it
adapted for programming, i.e. does saying 'if a equals b' generate 'if
(a == b):', or do you need to say all the individual symbols each
time?
It must be extremely difficult, the fact that programming is so picky
with a single punctuation character being wrong causing a compiler
error.
I unfortunately I don't know python but when I get time I really
should learn it.

> But in the case of speech recognition,
> expect to drop something on the order of $10 mil - $20 mil and five to
> 10 years assuming you can navigate the patent law minefield for speech
> recognition.
Ah software patents, at least there are places without them.


> I believe that path is creating a bridge
> application so that a speech recognition engine running on Windows can
> communicate with a gnome environment.
Running windows in the background to handle this sounds like overkill,
wouldn't it require some kind of virtual machine technology? and
running the whole of windows for that one task is a bit extreme.
Maybe some kind of emulation for the specific application windows uses
for speech recognition would be better, extracting that code might
have huge legal problems though.

> And I understand your point that you really want to have these
> things running native on Linux but damn it all, my fucking hands and
> arms hurt all the time clean up to my ears and this persistence of pain
> in different parts of bodies exists for many handicapped people.  Could
> you really look me in the eye and say that you want me to suffer
> physically and with Windows for ideological purity?
No.
My point was that Linux should support these things. The fact it
doesn't is an imperfection with Linux. I am not an evil person, I
would not force someone to suffer in pain purely because the open
source community has not currently been able to generate a solution
for you.


 > If the answer is no, then let's talk about how to make things better.
> It won't eliminate the physical pain.  Nothing but a minor miracle will
> do that.  But it will make things better for people like myself and
> hopefully eliminate one of the frustrations of our lives.
I know absolutely nothing about speech recognition, I am therefore not
the right person to provide that solution. I am still a student and
therefore still learning, maybe once I graduate I will know enough to
be of some productive use.

> If you don't change things, they will remain the same and handicapp
If you mean me personally expect quite a long wait. If you mean the
community in general then you might have more luck

> Well, I have a couple of projects that could use some help including a
> friendlier wrapper to dtach which is almost done but understanding why
> it works would be good experience.
Not got too much free time atm. Working on a University group project,
(spookily some of the things we considered involved speech
recognition, but we were warned against this, the chips we had where
old and the atmosphere they where going to be used in would degrade
performance yet more).


> As for the accessibility improvements, they don't even come close to
> what I need.  And if you're thinking of suggesting wine for the
> NaturallySpeaking environment, isn't there, will take money,
Ah money, unfortunately that's what most things come down to.
Maybe the government should do something about this?
They've got the money to actually make this happen.
If its made platform neutral it could help a lot of people worldwide,
ah but the government prefers to spend money on useless projects that
help no one

Maybe some kind of bounty could be setup? (problem is it looks like a
lot of work for a bounty)

I also have another problem with speech recognition, my microphone
won't work under Ubuntu, but that's another story, and when I get
round to upgrading I will see if it works under Edgy.

- Andy

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