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Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Wed Nov 29 22:54:14 UTC 2006

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:28:16 -0700 Scott <geekboy at> 
>Scott Kitterman spake thusly on 11/29/2006 12:26 PM:
>> On Wednesday 29 November 2006 14:20, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote:
>>> Not really,
>>> I use another SMTP server . See, when Gmail find that the SMTP server
>>> sending the mail is itself and the sender is you, it take it like a bug
>>> which would create a loop so it doesn't take it on the mailbox.
>>> a solution is to use a different SMTP server to send your mail (even
>>> though it's with the gmail address) . But i kinda think there was a
>>> setting you would do in gmail to get those mail ... hmm.. I don't
>>> remember at all
>> Well, except that Gmail publishes an SPF record saying where authorized 
>> comes from:
>> $ dig -ttxt
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> -ttxt
>> ;; global options:  printcmd
>> ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7878
>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>> ;                     IN      TXT
>>        224     IN      TXT     "v=spf1"
>> ;; Query time: 11 msec
>> ;; SERVER:
>> ;; WHEN: Wed Nov 29 14:23:46 2006
>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 71
>> This means that sending from another SMTP server is going to look 
>> to some.  See:
>I have to say that this is the only fault I find with Gmail. Otherwise
>it's miles ahead of the competition.
>But I find it a *big* problem. So much so that I abandoned Gmail for use
>with mailing lists.  There have been numerous complaints to Google on
>the subject and I've read discussions on the subject several times in
>Gmail groups.
>Google is convinced that it's a "feature".  I don't know of anyone else
>who agrees.
I gather 'it' is Gmail filtering out your list posts, not Gmail having an SPF record?

Mailman has a similar (it filters out mailing list posts that you are directly addressed on) 
feature that works on a per subscriber basis.  It was default on for, I think, one release.  
The outcry was substantial and it now defaults to off.  I know of no one that's turned it on.

I'd say that supports your position.

Scott K

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