Giving up on Edgy

NoOp glgxg at
Sun Nov 19 04:25:09 UTC 2006

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>>> I don't want to, but I'm going to have to give up on Ubuntu. Still no
>>> sound - although several people have tried to help and I do thank you.
>>> Much worse is the "Out of Range" error that appears on some boots. If I
>>> log off my system and leave the machine up (for background backups,
>>> etc), at some point it will crash with either a black screen or an "Out
>>> of Range". This is whether I'm in kdm or gdm.
>>> I really like Ubuntu, but the latest release shouldn't have been
>>> released, it wasn't ready. Googling around the net, the "Out of Range"
>>> error I described was known before the release. There is no excuse for a
>>> release with a problem of that magnitude outstanding.
>> I would suggest doing a fresh install of Dapper 6.06 LTS and using the
>> Edgy CD as an AOL coaster. I spent about 4-5 days with 6.10 and it
>> throughly screwed up my test system (luckily it was only a test system).
>>  Edgy would freeze on boot, BSOD, failed to initialize HAL! error,
>> wouldn't power down properly, etc., etc.  First had upgraded from a
>> fully up-to-date Dapper, then even tried a fresh install from the Edgy
>> Alternate CD... reminded me of a Windows ME update.
> Actually, Edgy *ALMOST* makes me long for the days when I only had the
> Windows problems.

Well, in all fairness... I have spent many days & nights simply
upgrading multiple machines from Win98 or WinME to Win2KP, so
upgrading/installing any OS can have it's problems.

> The problem with your suggestion is in moving toward the future. If this
> is the quality of the software Ubuntu is releasing, then how can we
> trust the release *AFTER* Edgy? Or after that? Are we now to say,
> install Dapper and never upgrade again? We certainly can't trust the
> Ubuntu team's assessment - look at their assessment of Edgy. As much as
> I like Ubuntu, they've shown they don't deserve our confidence.

Unfortunately Edgy was a near disaster for me. And apparently for many
others according to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 21 Edgy reviews
section (see: -
Ubuntu 6.10 reviews from around the web).

That said; I very much like the overall Ubuntu philosophy and community
and doubt that I will switch any time soon. I'll certainly do more
testing with alternate distros on my test machines, but I'm hoping that
the Edgy problems will eventually be resolved.[1]

> This leaves moving to a different distro. Not sure if it's going to be
> Debian or Fedora, but Ubuntu has to go.

Well... Larry Ellison/Oracle claims to be on the path to an "unbreakable
"(Redhat based) linux distro, but I wouldn't be on that any time soon.

Anyway, if you were somewhat happy with Breezy, then I'd still recommend
going with Dapper. Dapper has been solid for me (with the exception of
the upgrade fiasco w/X11, and the ubuntu-desktop OpenOffice bundle -
MS/IE embed style nonsense) and I am installing 7 additional systems
this week. So my vote (at this time) is still with Ubuntu.

[1] Disclaimer: I have Dapper running (very well thank you) on some
rather ancient systems; 300Mhz, 450Mhz, 800Mhz etc. I also maintain &
support multiple customer Windows installations of Win2KP/XP - 1.2G -
3.2G including Win2K servers. I gave up using Windows on my own personal
machines due to Ubuntu, and only dual boot to Windows to work on
customer specific MS problems.

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