ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 331
Scott
sdamron at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 19:16:35 UTC 2006
Okaaaaaayyyy..... I am quoting the ENTIRE list posting I just got so
you guys can see just how friggin' silly this sounds. For christs
sake, just agree to disagree, do, or do not install automatix, but in
the end, just shut the hell up about it, and quit involving the ENTIRE
list in you battles.
On 3/28/06, ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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> 1. Re: Automatix? ('Forum Post)
> 2. Re: Has Ubuntu Replaced Windows on Your Box? ('Forum Post)
> 3. Dapper clock and locales (Keith Powell)
> 4. Re: X weirdness (Alan McKinnon)
> 5. Re: Best tools for making DVD Video? ('Forum Post)
> 6. Re: Automatix? ('Forum Post)
> 7. Re: Automatix? ('Forum Post)
> 8. Re: Automatix? (Peter Garrett)
> 9. Re: Has Ubuntu Replaced Windows on Your Box?
> (Adriano Varoli Piazza)
> 10. Re: Automatix? (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
> 11. Re: Automatix? (Andrew Zajac)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:24:06 +0100
> From: 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <arnieboy.25e4p8 at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
>
>
> Oliver Grawert Wrote:
> > hi,
>
> > Am Dienstag, den 28.03.2006, 17:30 +0100 schrieb 'Forum Post:
>
> > > The above are indeed genuine concerns and I have not had the
> > requisite
>
> > > time to tackle these issues. I am open to patches which can be
>
> > > submitted on an independent thread on the automatix forum and they
> > will
>
> > > be included in automatix after due scrutiny.
>
> > how are people supposed to apply patches if they cant get the source ?
>
> Automatix is written in bash and hence the "source code" can be
> extracted directly from the debian package.
>
> Its not an unreadable precompiled binary.
>
>
> --
> arnieboy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:23:08 +0100
> From: 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Has Ubuntu Replaced Windows on Your Box?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <johnnymac.25e4p8 at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
>
>
> Yes...yes...yes...
>
>
>
> I haven't used Windows in about 2 years. Before ubuntu I was on
> gentoo, but I like ubuntu quite a bit better. So...games, work, play,
> videos...you name it I do it all on linux/ubuntu
>
>
> --
> johnnymac
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:38:47 +0100
> From: Keith Powell <keith at keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk>
> Subject: Dapper clock and locales
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <442974A7.3060408 at keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have just installed the latest version of Ubuntu Dapper with all the
> updates.
>
> With previous versions of Ubuntu, I could choose whether the clock
> showed the time in 12 hour mode or 24 hour, by using the clock's
> 'preferences'. But with Dapper, there is no 12 hour mode to select. Is
> there another way of getting the clock to show the time in 12 hour mode?
>
> The Time Zone is correctly set to Europe/London.
>
> I don't know if this has a bearing on the problem, but with previous
> versions of Ubuntu (and Libranet before that), after installation I
> always ran "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and made just the "en_GB" locale
> active. This won't work with Dapper.
>
> Any advice greatfully received.
>
> Many thanks
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:00:00 +0200
> From: Alan McKinnon <alan at linuxholdings.co.za>
> Subject: Re: X weirdness
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <200603282000.01158.alan at linuxholdings.co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Tuesday 28 March 2006 15:14, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 02:07:25PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:57, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned sometime earlier, dapper installs on my
> > > > machine, but does not boot. Seems that the problem is with a
> > > > specific ASUS motherboard some of us are having.
> > > >
> > > > So, installed breezy and using dapper cd updated it. Even
> > > > pulled in the latest versions from the net. Still, the
> > > > latest kernel 2.6.15-9 does not boot. But, the one that is
> > > > shipped with breezy boots.
> > >
> > > Any error messages?
> >
> > Nothing that I can see. If you see the earlier thred under Dapper
> > post-installation problem, I have detailed everything that has
> > happened.
>
> You seem to have a most unusual problem there, and you did a bunch of
> sensible things. It looks like one of those things that needs some
> heavy guns to solve. So here's how I would tackle it:
>
> Get the .config for the current working Debian kernel, the last Ubuntu
> kernel that worked and the current Ubuntu kernel, and diff them. See
> if that highlights anything. Does Ubuntu boot using the Debian kernel
> btw? Then use the Debian .config to build a kernel under Ubuntu, test
> it, and check errors (if any). Any differences in the kernel
> parameters between working and non-working kernels?
>
> > > Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors for error
> > > messages as to why X didn't start properly
> >
> > Here is ~/.xsession-errors :
> >
> > /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and
> > utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w
> > /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h ""
> > -l ":0" "mas"
> > /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
> > /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing default failed, will try to run
> > x-terminal-emulator
> > ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
> > ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
> > snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
> > ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
> > ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
> > snd_func_concat returned error: No such device
> > ALSA lib confmisc.c:1072:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
> > ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
> > returned error: No such device
> > ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such
> > device ALSA lib pcm.c:2099:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM
> > default
> >
> > This is tied to my comment of alsa not being started.
> >
> > Regarding /var/log/Xorg.log, the error message _seems_ to be :
> >
> > error opening security policy file /etc/xserver/SecurityPolicy
>
> Does that file exist, and what's in it? On my Breezy
> it's /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy - one extra dir in the path
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
> +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:55:37 +0100
> From: 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Best tools for making DVD Video?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <jarlath.25e5mj at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
>
>
> I use this
>
> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30455
>
> Just right click on the mpeg and select the format you want to convert
> to.
>
>
> --
> jarlath
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:17:41 +0100
> From: 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <arnieboy.25e6jv at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
>
>
> Oliver Grawert Wrote:
> > obvoiusly Dennis stated an opinion and managed to avoid to attack you
>
> > personally, which you appraretly are not able to do, even if Seveas
> > tone
>
> > might not have been nice he still respects the CoC, which i fail to
> > see
>
> > in your above statement. please calm your wording.
>
> Dennis has repeatedly attacked Automatix and me in the past, thus
> openly flouting the CoC. Just a day earlier he called me egotistical
> and clueless. I repeat: he is a germ who needs to be promptly weeded
> out.
>
> As for me I have not signed the CoC and I do not intend to either
> unless those who have signed and flouted it write me an email
> apologizing for all their past mistakes and also including an assurance
> that they will abstain from committing the same mistakes over and over
> again.
>
>
> --
> arnieboy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:12:35 +0100
> From: 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <arnieboy.25e6jv at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
>
>
> Dennis Kaarsemaker Wrote:
> > Please keep the code of conduct in mind on Ubuntu mailinglists. Me,
>
> > Reinhard, Oliver and countless others only raise the issues with
>
> > automatix. Instead of responding to them (you still haven't...) you
> > just
>
> > start swearing. I'm not paid for any of the work I do for Ubuntu
>
> > (including helping users restoring automatix-inflicted damage) and I
> > am
>
> > not here to troll.
>
> >
>
> > The only truckloads of crap in this thread are your horrible attitude
>
> > and the even more horrible automatix.
>
> Reinhard and Oliver asked genuine questions and I have responded to
> them in a suitable fashion. You on the other hand are not only blind
> and semi-literate (because you obviously cannot read what i write) but
> you are also an inconsequential piece of crap who comes up with
> repetitive and inane statements which do not hold any value whatsoever.
> You need to be promptly weeded out of a place where educated individuals
> have a socially acceptable verbal discourse.
>
>
> --
> arnieboy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:36:25 +1100
> From: Peter Garrett <peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20060329053625.4dd7952e.peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:17:41 +0100
> "'Forum Post" <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>, '@ohiggins.ubuntu.com wrote:
>
> > As for me I have not signed the CoC and I do not intend to either
> > unless those who have signed and flouted it write me an email
> > apologizing for all their past mistakes and also including an assurance
> > that they will abstain from committing the same mistakes over and over
> > again.
>
> The irony of this paragraph appears to have escaped you ...
>
> --
> Peter Garrett
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:41:59 +0200
> From: "Adriano Varoli Piazza" <moranar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Has Ubuntu Replaced Windows on Your Box?
> To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <2cfc2c9f0603281041k5bea17d3h72434a6127fce889 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> No, Linux has replaced Windows on my box. Mandriva, Fedora, SuSE,
> Debian, Ubuntu. I could install and use any of them. Right now, I use
> Ubuntu, but I've been on (mostly) Mandrake/Mandriva since 2000.
> Windows is still there as a handy game console (I don't have a tv nor
> money, so no, I'm not buying a Gamecube/Revolution).
>
> --
> Adriano Varoli Piazza
> The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar
> ICQ: 4410132
> MSN: moranar at gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:46:05 +0200
> From: Dennis Kaarsemaker <dennis at kaarsemaker.net>
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1143571565.5583.15.camel at mirage>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On di, 2006-03-28 at 19:12 +0100, 'Forum Post wrote:
> > Reinhard and Oliver asked genuine questions and I have responded to
> > them in a suitable fashion.
>
> You really have a weird definition of suitable.
>
> > You need to be promptly weeded out of a place where educated
> > individuals have a socially acceptable verbal discourse.
>
> Once again you keep violating the code of conduct. Even if you refuse to
> sign it you still should adhere to it on public ubuntu mailing lists.
> --
> Dennis K.
> - Linux for human beings - http://www.ubuntu.com
> - Linux voor iedereen - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:48:33 -0500
> From: "Andrew Zajac" <arzajac at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Automatix?
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> On 3/28/06, 'Forum Post <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org> wrote:
> >
> > dude: are u paid to troll on these mailing lists and IRC about stuff
> > you do not have the slightest clue about? If you had tried this on the
> > forums, you would have been banned long back but then I guess you were
> > smart enough to not venture there with your truckload of crap.
> > Personally, I think you are a degenerate loser who seriously needs to
> > be dealt with and told to shut the **** up once and for all!
>
>
>
> I think people are wondering how you manage to post something like that to
> the mailing list from the forums and not get banned from them.
>
> It's things like this that make people compain about the mailing list
> integration with the forums.
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