Upgrading to Edgy Eft

Gabriel Dragffy dragffy at yandex.ru
Wed Jun 28 07:16:46 UTC 2006

IMO this list serves people much better by concentrating on the problems
with the current stable release. Posting problems about unstable is
ridiculous, I vote that things like that should go to
launchpad/ubuntu-dev. I don't want to hear that lib6c is broken in a
version that hasn't even been released yet. Then the next day something
is broken in lib7c or something stupid. What useful purpose does it
serve on this list?

On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 14:21 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:

> Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > 
> >> I don't think people get upset about this at all. But I think what does
> >> upset some people is if users upgrade to edgy, then post to the list
> >> "something is broken, I have package conflicts", and ask for help.
> > 
> > Exactly. If somebody is under the impression to use a not yet
> > released distribution, he should know how to handle such small
> > problems. Further, I don't think it's right to post questions
> > about a "developer distribution" on the users list - IMO such
> > questions belong to the -dev list.
> > 
> > This list is for users, not for dev's! And Edgy isn't for
> > users (at least not yet).
> NO, NO, absolutely NO.  If edgy isn't for the user community then the
> archive should not be open.  It IS intended for us to use, and just like
> dapper, many of us here will be using it long before release date.  
> This list is for _users_.  It is NOT for breezy or dapper users, it's for
> ALL users.  This is exactly the attitude that got me started in this
> thread.
> Honestly, I can't see how you could open your response to Mario
> with "exactly" and then get it so completely wrong.  Mario just said that
> Edgy users have to expect that there'll be problems.  He didn't say they
> shouldn't discuss those problems.  And, btw, they're not likely to
> be "small" problems.  New beta releases rarely have only "small" problems,
> but people have to try them or the developers will never know what needs
> fixing.
> -- 
> derek
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