Stupid end-user tricks: darcs for /etc and /boot

Daniel Carrera daniel.carrera at zmsl.com
Wed Jun 21 11:53:26 UTC 2006


Alexander Skwar wrote:
> No, I haven't taken the Gentoo comment personally. I'm getting annoyed
> by you defending what he wrote.

What he wrote seems fine and I don't think you should get upset at my 
saying so.

> Maybe it really wasn't "FUD" - how else
> would you want to call it?

Okay, we're making progress, you're considering that maybe it wasn't 
FUD. If you think it's wrong then just call it wrong. If your basis for 
saying that its wrong is simply your unusual definition of the word 
"dangerous" then just say that you have an unusual definition of the 
word dangerous.

>> I defending the OP's comments because I am concerned that using the 
>> FUD label too freely leads to very bad consequences
> 
> Okay, I agree with that, but why should invalid criticism be defended?

It seems valid though. And even if it was mistaken, people have the 
right to say what they think and be corrected without getting labeled 
(whether the label is troll, FUD, zealot, shill or whatever).

>> Well, I think we can agree that this is a place where we have a 
>> difference of opinion. I think that fdisk and dd are dangerous 
>> commands and you think that they aren't because they must be ran by 
>> the user. It seems that by your definition no command can ever be 
>> dangerous, which tells me that it's not a reasonable definition.
> 
> Wrong. This *is* a very reasonable definition. There are tools which
> can be dangerous, if not used correctly or if used by people who
> don't know what they are doing.

Ok, I think we can stop here. We agree on where we disagree :) And I can 
see that there's nothing I can say that will alter your opinion on what 
things are dangerous. I think that a definition by which no software 
ever written can be dangerous and even sharp knives aren't dangerous is 
a very unreasonable definition. You think that it is very reasonable.

>> I thought that his new reply was informative.
> 
> Yes. It was informative in reassuring that there really was no problem
> with etc-update, but rather that he maybe didn't quite agree with "the
> Gentoo way"

I thought it supported his position that etc-update is dangerous and 
must be used with caution.

Daniel.
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