SELinux: What's the Ubuntu trick?

[Matt Galvin]

On 5/31/06, Peter Garrett <peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:19:56 +0800
> "Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 10:27 -0400, Jeremy J. Swarm wrote:
> >
> > > I have no idea what the "trick" is, but i feel that this response is
> > > inappropriate. Ubuntu is reknowned for its great community, but this
> > > response does not reflect that.
> >
> >
> > Renowned where?  The only people I keep hearing saying what a great
> > community Ubuntu has is ... well, the Ubuntu community.  To me Albert's
> > response appears only slightly below the norm.  And then there's that
> > "Linux Test Pilot" guy who didn't have the greatest things in the world
> > to say about the community either.
> >
> > But he's just a journalist.
>
>
> What is a genuine "community" ? Examples might be for instance a
> monastery, or perhaps a small tight-knit village. What are the
> characterisitics of such communities ? Are they invariably friendly and
> well-behaved ? Do they sail along without conflicts, full of constantly
> happy smiling people with soft-focus Hollywood Happy sentiments, and
> violins playing on the sound track? I think not, from personal experience.
>
> Expecting any group to be unfailingly welcoming, friendly and helpful is
> really a sure path to disappointment. Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings",
> yes - but human beings rarely live up fully to the ideal of "ubuntu" in the
> original sense of the word.
>
> That doesn't mean the ideal is a bad one - just that we are fallible, and
> human in a different and less positive meaning of that word.
>
> I *do* think we need to stop trumpeting how wonderful we are though -
> that's a very unlikable characterisitic, in anyone... and "ipso facto",
> negates the claim.

hmm, what i think, not to be rude but, could we possibly umm... stay
on topic and stop feeding the trolls.

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