SELinux: What's the Ubuntu trick?

[Peter Garrett]

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:19:56 +0800
"Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 10:27 -0400, Jeremy J. Swarm wrote:
> 
> > I have no idea what the "trick" is, but i feel that this response is
> > inappropriate. Ubuntu is reknowned for its great community, but this
> > response does not reflect that.
> 
> 
> Renowned where?  The only people I keep hearing saying what a great
> community Ubuntu has is ... well, the Ubuntu community.  To me Albert's
> response appears only slightly below the norm.  And then there's that
> "Linux Test Pilot" guy who didn't have the greatest things in the world
> to say about the community either.
> 
> But he's just a journalist.


What is a genuine "community" ? Examples might be for instance a
monastery, or perhaps a small tight-knit village. What are the
characterisitics of such communities ? Are they invariably friendly and
well-behaved ? Do they sail along without conflicts, full of constantly
happy smiling people with soft-focus Hollywood Happy sentiments, and
violins playing on the sound track? I think not, from personal experience. 

Expecting any group to be unfailingly welcoming, friendly and helpful is
really a sure path to disappointment. Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings",
yes - but human beings rarely live up fully to the ideal of "ubuntu" in the
original sense of the word.

That doesn't mean the ideal is a bad one - just that we are fallible, and
human in a different and less positive meaning of that word.

I *do* think we need to stop trumpeting how wonderful we are though -
that's a very unlikable characterisitic, in anyone... and "ipso facto",
negates the claim.

Peter

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