Mysql install help

[Billy Verreynne (JW)]

Jeremiah Foster wrote:

> I am not being religious, only practical.

Does not sound like that to me. At -all-.

> If you use proprietary software your information get
> locked into their black box.

And when you are born and take your first breath, you get locked into
having to breath. How terrible.

News flash. For 99% of all computer users, Open Source (and Linux) is
as much as a black box than is Windows or Mac OS/X or <insert
favourite o/s here>.

They do not have the skills and experience to treat it as anything but
as a black box. Hell, THEY WANT TO USE IT AS A BLACK BOX.. as they do
not want to pop the hood and fiddle with the insides to make it work.

> You cannot:
>
> a. change the software so that it suits your needs

How about the other side of the coin that you have oh so conveniently
ignored.

Who does (a)? A very very small minority of users.

Who -wants- to do (a)? No one. We want to USE the software. Not change
the code to make it "suit" us!

Why do (a)? Because the software SUCKS! as it does not do what it is
suppose to do. We expect software to work the FIRST time around and
not have to hack it to fix it.

> b. see what it is doing to your data

So what!? Do the average consumer gives a rat's behind on how corn
flake serial is made? They want to USE the product.

Similarly with data, they do not care what is done with it. They
simply care about it being secured on the file system. Another news
flash - it is easier to crack ext2/ext3/reiser than it is ntfs.

> c. know how they will develop the software in the future, if at all

And there you just have just fallen off the boat. Hope you have your
trusty open source life jacket on.. Oh I forgot.. they are still
arguing about the size of the jacket, the standards of the material to
use, the colour.. and is still in the design phase.

Joe Consumer DOES NOT CARE about software development. Software is a
commodity to him. Something to use for a while that will be thrown
away (or upgraded) at a later stage.

> The day Microsoft changes C#, mono dies. And so dies beagle, fstop,
etc, etc.

Point being? You are arguing against commercial software and now are
using Mono (Open Source) to prove your point?

Microsoft C# and .NET are what Microsoft is betting its future on. Not
Mono.  And if Mono breaks when C# is changed.. tough titty for Mono
and Open Source. Why should or would Microsoft give a damn?

> how do you see your photos?

Optical media using my DVD player. Or do you put them for sake keeping
on your computer on a hard disk that can fail at anytime?

> How do you find stuff on your computer?

Windows? dir/s/b <searchpattern>

Linux/Unix? find / -name <searchpattern> -print

And just what is the point with that question?

> How do you access the data in your database when you no
> longer own your database because they have moved to a
> subscription model?

What bull is this? Take Oracle for example. When you bought version
7.1 of Oracle in the mid 90's, you bought a perpetual license. 10
years later, that database of yours will still work today, will still
be yours today.

Ditto for other vendor products. Heck, you may even get support for
your 7.1 Oracle database from Oracle itself. Now if you are still
running an ancient version of mySQL or Linux.. just where are you
going to find anyone to support you? Or are l33t skills so good, you
will simply hack the kernel and fix it?

> Proprietary software is dangerous to your data. Always.

No. The real danger, as with everything from live from suicide bombers
to open source fanatics to Microsoft suits, is IGNORANCE.

--
Billy

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