Ubuntu/Kubuntu on Mac G5.
lgrover at zoominternet.net
Sat Jan 21 14:41:37 UTC 2006
Brian Durant wrote:
> OK, the first problem I ran into is that the Gparted program on the
> Dapper flight 3 PPC live-CD does not seem to be able to create a boot
> or a root partition. I couldn't find any other programs on the disk
> that could be used as an alternative either :-( I also have the Kubuntu
> live-CD, but when I can't even get the drives to show up properly (as
> per an earlier e-mail) that doesn't seem to be a viable way to go
> either. Normally, I would then try a Breezy CD, to get more stability,
> but as I stated earlier, nothing before Dapper will even boot on my
> PowerMac G5.
I haven't used gparted before, but I think it is for creating or
modifying partitions. Assigning a particular partition to /boot or / or
whatever is something the installer does.
You could use gparted from the live CD to create the partitions for
later use when you run the install. Or you could simply create and
assign the partitions from within the installer.
> One thing that has struck me so far on this list, is that there doesn't
> seem to be any of the developers of the PPC version of Ubuntu lurking
> on the list, nor do there seem to be very many Mac users. On the YDL
> list (which is of course Mac centric), they have asked me to clarify
> that I have a PowerMac G5 and not an iMac G5, they have also asked me
> to check my firmware version, which I believe is listed as: " Boot ROM
> Version: 5.2.2f2", etc. Not even a response on this list when I
> quoted the Debian lists response to my problem, stating that there was
> no longer any contact between the two kernel groups (?!?).
You'll see occasional posts from Ubuntu developers, but this is
primarily a user list. YDL is a great distro -- it's the first distro I
ran on my iBook (I switched to Ubuntu so I could run the same distro on
both my iBook and x86 systems). Since YDL is strictly powerpc, the
people on their lists in general are going to be more knowledgable about
apple hardware. Is your Power Mac a recent model? If so, that may be
why the fan control is not working. I'm pretty sure that thermal
management (fan) control works on older Power Macs.
About the difference between Debian and Ubuntu kernels: few distros use
a completely stock linux kernel, most of them add some patches. This
may be done to backport features from a new (possible unstable) kernel
to the stable kernel which is going to be used in a release, or for
security fixes. But as long as you're talking about the same kernel
version (e.g., 2.6.12 or 2.6.10, etc) they are basically the same
between different distros. The quote you posted from the Debian list
sounded to me like someone with an axe to grind who was trolling. So
why didn't an Ubuntu developer respond on this list? Perhaps they
weren't interested in trading insults? Perhaps they didn't see your
post (this is a busy, sometimes noisy, list)? Perhaps they were too
busy with work?
> Personally, I really like Ubuntu/Kubuntu and I would prefer to have
> that installed on my PowerMac G5, but at this point, it isn't looking
> too good. I hope this doesn't sound like I am ungrateful for the help I
> have received so far, because I am very grateful. I am just frustrated
> about hitting what looks like a brick wall at this point.
Well, it's possible that Ubuntu won't work for you, at least for the
upcoming Dapper/6.04 release, though it will probably work on your
system some time down the road. If YDL or some other distro works
better, then use it (no need to feel ungrateful, either). If you prefer
Ubuntu, you can always try later releases with the live CDs, and if
support for your hardware improves in the future, switch.
> I have had a look at https://launchpad.net/malone but can't figure out
> how to file a bug. I have searched and found that the bug doesn't seem
> to be listed. BTW, the link doesn't seem to work properly in Safari. I
> get the following prompt: Safari wants permission to sign using key "-"
> in your keychain. Do you want to allow this? (Deny, Allow Once, Always
I'm not sure why Safari is doing this. It doesn't do this for me (OSX
10.4 on an iMac G5). Perhaps you some how managed to store a
login/password combination in your key chain under the key "-"? You
could try running the "Keychain Access.app" (in
/Applications/Utilities). Perhaps you have a bougs entry in there that
you can remove?
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