From harley7 at cogeco.ca Fri Dec 1 00:21:47 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:21:47 -0500 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <456F6CEF.1090903@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3D4F.9080105@cogeco.ca> <456F6CEF.1090903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <456F759B.2080805@cogeco.ca> Mitch Contla wrote: > /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is created by cupsys.postinst when you > install the cupsys package. You are definitely right about my post not > being clear. I will correct that. Hmmmm. I don't have that file, or the directory /etc/cups/cups.d/. I have cupsys installed however. I'm running a fresh install of edgy. Could it be that newer versions of the cupsys package no longer create that file and directory? Bill From li.beinan at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 00:54:37 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (beinan li) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:54:37 -0500 Subject: gtk error from firefox ! Message-ID: <6db45ed70611301654r26aa33f2p312301fd8307877c@mail.gmail.com> Hi , Whenever I run firefox or create a new tab in Firefox (under KDE) it gives me this in the ~/.xsession-errors: (Gecko:5817): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (Gecko:5817): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed I searched web and found a lot of posts, none of which gives a official solution the oldest can be in 2005! Any idea how to solve this? I can still surf the net with FF but it's just annoying to have the errors and besides, my GNOME has already crashed and i'm debugging through looking into the .xsession-errors. I need to rule out unrelavant info .... Thank you very much! Beinan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From li.beinan at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 01:19:29 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (beinan li) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:29 -0500 Subject: [continue] new clue on my gnome crash! GETTING THERE Message-ID: <6db45ed70611301719i70248a4cm21e4777aa56091ad@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Sorry for bothering with a few same posts on my gnome crash problem. After a day's struggling, I sort of see that the problem is with my SCIM. I inserted "scim -d" in the start-up program in the session manager through GUI. Could anyone be kind enough to let me know which config file I should edit to remove this? Thank you. Below is the ~/.xsession-error: /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "kakyo" /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... SESSION_MANAGER=local/kakyo-desktop:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5407 Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd... Loading simple Config module ... Creating backend ... Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd... Loading simple Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading socket FrontEnd module ... Starting SCIM as daemon ... Loading socket FrontEnd module ... Starting SCIM as daemon ... Launching a SCIM process with x11... Loading socket Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... kbuildsycoca running... GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 Warning: Crypt::Simple not found ... CheckGmail requires the above packages for password encryption Please download and install from CPAN (http://search.cpan.org) if you want to use this feature ... ScimInputContextPlugin() GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 Can't initialize SocketServer. GTK IM Module SCIM: Cannot connect to Panel! GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 Failed to launch SCIM. Smart Common Input Method 1.4.4 GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 GTK IM Module SCIM: Cannot connect to Panel! ------ Beinan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcontla at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 01:21:54 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:21:54 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <456F759B.2080805@cogeco.ca> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3D4F.9080105@cogeco.ca> <456F6CEF.1090903@gmail.com> <456F759B.2080805@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <456F83B2.7080403@gmail.com> Bill Davidson said the following on 11/30/2006 04:21 PM: > Mitch Contla wrote: > >> /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is created by cupsys.postinst when you >> install the cupsys package. You are definitely right about my post not >> being clear. I will correct that. >> > > Hmmmm. I don't have that file, or the directory /etc/cups/cups.d/. I > have cupsys installed however. I'm running a fresh install of edgy. > Could it be that newer versions of the cupsys package no longer create > that file and directory? > > Bill > > I'm running Dapper, so it may be different. In fact /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is referenced as an include file from /etc/cups/cupsd.conf (so is browse.conf). Normally, you would simply stick the Listen directives directly in cupsd.conf, but the ubuntu (and probably debian) packages, at least through Dapper, use include files so that changes to cupsd.conf are minimized. Based on what your telling me, it appears the package maintainers may have reverted to calling these directives in cupsd.conf, which is how a "normal" cups install would work. I'm assuming that: $ cat /etc/cups/cupsd.conf | grep '^[^#]*Listen' ... would verify this. Of course for Norman, this means that if he's running Edgy, my instructions will need to be altered a bit to add the add/modify the Listen directives directly in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. Are you out there Norman? It would be nice if the package maintainers picked one way and stuck with it! -- Mitch From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 01:53:09 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:53:09 +0700 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <20061130233656.GA29125@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <20061130233656.GA29125@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <1164937989.11389.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:36 -0500, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > I keep mine on all the time because I run a private mail server which > allows me to send and receive mail locally bypassing my ISP or any other > remote mail server. It's a security and privacy issue for me. Out of interest, what do you use for the mail server? Postfix? In secure SSL mode I presume? I'm thinking of doing that as well, inclding also running sshd and just tunnelling everything through there. (Sorry for the thread-jack. :) Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 01:59:00 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:59:00 +0700 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:17 -0500, Peter Hummers wrote: > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? Does putting it to sleep count? That's not a reboot so I guess it still qualifies as up-time? :) AND you save power. Best of both worlds? My personal opinion is that if there is an actual need to keep the computer running because it actually does work all the time, then it's great that you can keep it on reliably for long periods of time. However I also suspect some people keep it running more because of some sort of "uptime-fetish".. In that case I think the common sense thing to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze outside. Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 02:02:31 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:02:31 +0700 Subject: notebook decision? In-Reply-To: <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <456E8A8C.6010902@zimmer428.net> <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1164938551.11389.15.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:09 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > First time you run it refuse to acknowledge the MS license, and claim your > money back ? The man's company already owns licenses I think. Claiming your money back applies to computers bought with OEM versions of Windows installed. But yeah, it would be cool if more peopel did that. Not because it would hurt Microsoft in the slightest, but because it would manufacturers think more seriously about offering computers without OS, with FreeDOS or any Linux flavor. Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 02:13:10 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:13:10 +0700 Subject: easyubuntu also for edgy? In-Reply-To: <20061130162501.GB21654@gmx.de> References: <20061130162501.GB21654@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1164939190.11389.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:25 +0100, Luqman wrote: > I would like to install multimedia capabilities in edgy (mp3, mpeg4, > divx etc..). In Dapper, I used easyubuntu. But easyubuntu support Edgy > aswell? To me it's not worth the risk. And there seriously is only a handful of packages to install to get it all. Check the RestrictedFormats page. (Google 'ubuntu' and 'restrictedformats') It can all be done in your regular graphical environment with Synaptic. Actually the time saved with Automatix is minimal; it still has to download the stuff! Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 02:18:34 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:18:34 +0700 Subject: alternative cd In-Reply-To: <456F344B.3070807@btinternet.com> References: <456F344B.3070807@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1164939514.11389.25.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:43 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > When I use the Alternative CD for installing Edgy on my laptop do I need > to get a Sighted person to press any function keys to make any choices > as regards installing or when you pop the CD in the drive will it boot > into the installation? Normally the alternate CD is not needed and not the easiest way of installing Ubuntu. The main reason for running it is when your system has limited memory, say less than 192 MB or so. Second reason is when upgrading from CD. The alternate CD is the good old text-mode installer, which means using the keyboard ocastionally to tab to an [Ok] or hit the space bar to click a checkmark. This will not come natural to just any average sighted person. :-) So with or without sighted assistance, I think the best way to install is the regular Desktop CD. (i.e. the Live CD that also installs) Cheers, Chanchao From wade at wadesmart.com Fri Dec 1 03:09:26 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:09:26 -0600 Subject: Start Up Programs - ones that require password Message-ID: <1164942567.5257.7.camel@wadesmart> 11302006 2108 GMT-6 I want firestarter to start at boot but it requires a password to be entered. How do you set that up in Sessions? wade From tommac at cableone.net Fri Dec 1 03:11:30 2006 From: tommac at cableone.net (tommy mcdurmon) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:11:30 -0600 Subject: wireless In-Reply-To: <1164858386.9008.17.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456E4556.6050705@cableone.net> <1164858386.9008.17.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <456F9D62.8030100@cableone.net> Chanchao wrote: > On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 20:43 -0600, tommy mcdurmon wrote: > > >> I have used Ubuntu 5.10,6.06,6.10, xandros,mepis.dsl.puppy and quite a >> few more. I have never been able to connect to the internet by wireless. >> I do not like Microsoft but I still use XP and ME because I have nothing >> else that works. I use Ubuntu Edgy on a dual boot Dell laptop and would >> love to delete XP but not until I find a solution to the problem. Does >> anyone have a solution to this problem that one who is not an expert on >> Linux could use? >> > > If it doesn't work, google on whatever the wireless hardware is in your > computer. So boot into windows if you have that and check that the > driver/ manufacturer is. > > A very useful tool on Ubuntu is 'wifi-radar' it scans for wireless > networks and shows the details to you. If this works then you know > wireless networking is working and it's just a matter of setting the > right ESSD and encryption stuff. > > On my laptop (NEC) it 'just-worked'. It uses built in Intel > PRO/Wireless 2200BG hardware. Another laptop we have is HP, has the > exact same hardware and that also just-worked. > > NOTE: Believe it or not, it only started working after noticing there > actrually is a button on the thing that turns wifi on or off. On the HP > this is an external button, on the NEC it's a Fn-key something > combination. On both computers the status LED does NOT come on, but > the wireless network does. :) > > Cheers, > Chanchao > > > Thanks for all the suggestions. In spite of all this, I can connect with Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP with no problems. It seems Linux could come up with some solution without all the work and trouble I have had. I'll keep using the dual boot until they arrive at a reasonable answer. tom From lproven at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 03:15:49 2006 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:15:49 +0000 Subject: What's the long-term view of LTS Message-ID: <575131af0611301915ke73f565k4806aeb6f5487e8a@mail.gmail.com> 6.06 is the Long Term Support edition, which means it'll be supported for several years, yes? 3y on the desktop (so until June 2009) and 5y on servers (so until June 2011). Do I have those dates correct? So what & when will be the next LTS release that replaces 6.06? Will it last the same time, or is that not decided yet? -- Liam Proven · Blog, homepage &c: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk · GMail/Google Talk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com AOL/AIM/iChat: liamproven at aol.com · MSN/Messenger: lproven at hotmail.com Yahoo: liamproven at yahoo.co.uk · Skype: liamproven · ICQ: 73187508 From matt.price at utoronto.ca Fri Dec 1 03:42:41 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:42:41 -0500 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <1164944561.5542.61.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2006-30-11 at 18:17 -0500, Peter Hummers wrote: > I found this on Digg, about the energy-saving aspects of turning > computers off when not in use (/not/ about the software, which is > Windows only): > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/yk9lqr > > On Un*x, I've always left my computer on overnight (actually, for months > at a time) to let cron do its housekeeping, but I see that Ubuntu > installs anacron, which will complete the same tasks according to time > elapsed since the last instance, not absolute time (i.e. 15:00). > > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? well, I use suspend2, so my computer actually hibernates unproblematically... I turn my computer off whenever I'm done with what I'm doing, unless I'm downloading somethng or ripping/burning some dvd that's taking forever. I ought to have some script check that nothing's happening and hibernate or suspend-2-ram whenever the computer is idle -- boot times are about 8 seconds when resuming from ram, 35 seconds when resuming from disk, so the frustration of restart is substantially reduced. > -- > Peter Hummers > == > Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, > the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage > http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 03:45:55 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:45:55 +0700 Subject: Installed gfxboot, gfxboot-theme-ubuntu, now what? Message-ID: <1164944755.4768.1.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> How to actually make it show when booting? A lot of the guides out there refer to grub-gfxboot which is pre-Edgy I think. Cheers, Chanchao From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Fri Dec 1 03:53:47 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:23:47 +0530 Subject: alternative cd Message-ID: Sorry I can not help but once you install the alternative CD do let me know if it installs in text mode or its also a live CD. As on the older P1 m/c that I have Live CD does not work due to resource limitaitons. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Fri Dec 1 04:00:05 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:00:05 -0600 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <20061130220005.1a6c5867@WizardsTower> Peter Hummers said: > I found this on Digg, about the energy-saving aspects of turning > computers off when not in use (/not/ about the software, which is > Windows only): > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/yk9lqr > > On Un*x, I've always left my computer on overnight (actually, for > months at a time) to let cron do its housekeeping, but I see that > Ubuntu installs anacron, which will complete the same tasks according > to time elapsed since the last instance, not absolute time (i.e. > 15:00). > > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? My box has a button problem wherein it won't start without a couple of dozen pushes and the waving of a couple of dead chickens. Because of that I don't turn it off unless I /must/ upgrade hardware or there is a power outage. Or it gives me a BSOD. Mwahaha, right! Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Dec 1 04:24:36 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:24:36 -0500 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164937989.11389.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <20061130233656.GA29125@taylor.homelinux.net> <1164937989.11389.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <20061201042436.GA3027@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 According to Chanchao: # Out of interest, what do you use for the mail server? Postfix? In # secure SSL mode I presume? At the moment I'm actually using exim4 with sa-exim to reject spam. No encryption is necessary because I do everything on localhost. No need to connect to a remote box for anything mail related. MUA and MTA are all on the same box. And as I understand it, SSL only works if both ends are able to use it, so I don't think it would be possible to have incoming mail or mail that is sent out encrypted. Someone correct me if I'm wrong and I will solve that problem as well. I didn't think there was much that could be done to secure mail on the way out other than encrypting via GPG, and that assumes the other person has a public key. I really didn't think there was much that could be done to secure anything coming in either unless I know all other servers that would be sending me mail were capable of SSL encryption or unless the sender happens to have my public GPG key and encrypts the message. Again I stand to be corrected and would in fact like to be wrong about this one. :) Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFb66EG9IpekrhBfIRAkj1AKDO3TtzSo7aQr7M7qlK197ktwUD6QCfeTow ThkWfWeqSPquxY2yYjLTPwo= =A9cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Dec 1 04:39:55 2006 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:39:55 -0500 Subject: SSL E-mail - was Re: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <20061201042436.GA3027@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164937989.11389.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <20061201042436.GA3027@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200611302339.55886.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 30 November 2006 23:24, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > According to Chanchao: > # Out of interest, what do you use for the mail server? Postfix? In > # secure SSL mode I presume? > > At the moment I'm actually using exim4 with sa-exim to reject spam. No > encryption is necessary because I do everything on localhost. No need > to connect to a remote box for anything mail related. MUA and MTA are > all on the same box. And as I understand it, SSL only works if both > ends are able to use it, so I don't think it would be possible to have > incoming mail or mail that is sent out encrypted. Someone correct me if > I'm wrong and I will solve that problem as well. I didn't think there > was much that could be done to secure mail on the way out other than > encrypting via GPG, and that assumes the other person has a public key. > I really didn't think there was much that could be done to secure > anything coming in either unless I know all other servers that would be > sending me mail were capable of SSL encryption or unless the sender > happens to have my public GPG key and encrypts the message. Again I > stand to be corrected and would in fact like to be wrong about this one. > SSL and (peferably) TLS are useful for e-mail much as they are for web browsing. They can protect content from external viewing. When connecting through to a mail server with a regular mail client that uses user ID and password authentication, SSL/TLS is pretty mandatory to keep passwords from being sniffed. You are correct that both ends need to support. From the mail client to the submitting mail server, this is reasonably easy as almost all modern mail clients support this. From MTA to MTA it is still unusual, but becoming less so. It doesn't hurt to have it set up. If you are delivering to a mail server that supports TLS, then it will be encrypted, but (unless you make it mandatory) things work just find unencrypted with other servers. This is similar to the level of protection you get if you SSH to the box and then do everything locally. One warning though is if you are going to use SSL, do not use SSL v2, limit yourself to SSL v3 because the SSL v2 algorithms are not very strong and are not recommended. Scott K From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Dec 1 05:10:50 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:10:50 -0500 Subject: postfix and blocking spam Message-ID: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I used to run postfix as my mail server until about 2 years ago when I switched to Debian and discovered sa-exim which can block spam at the source by rejecting it before it ever gets sent using spamassassin. Over all, I would like postfix better, since it's much easier to read and understand the config files and I don't have to rely on debconf. Plus I liked the tendency of postfix to slow to a painful crawl during my relay tests while connected to mail-abuse.org whenever it rejected something. It really makes spammers think twice about using my server for their thousands of messages if they actually decide to try. Is there currently a solution in Edgy for blocking spam that gives me the power of sa-exim and works with postfix? Maybe there's something even better? I'm definitely open to that possibility as well. Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFb7laG9IpekrhBfIRAssoAJ46FlQKisJg64e6rUdfnBR0IDW96ACfcD9L k33O/y1sSDqXAv60K9CqrD4= =EO4B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Dec 1 05:34:07 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:34:07 +1100 Subject: Start Up Programs - ones that require password In-Reply-To: <1164942567.5257.7.camel@wadesmart> References: <1164942567.5257.7.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <20061201163407.7d050fd4.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:09:26 -0600 Wade Smart wrote: > 11302006 2108 GMT-6 > > I want firestarter to start at boot but it requires a password to be > entered. How do you set that up in Sessions? You don't need to. Firestarter is just a front-end useful for monitoring and/or configuration. You will find that the firewall starts on boot - so it is already working anyway. I think you will see a start-up script /etc/init.d/firestarter which is what starts it by default. In other words, firestarter initialises your iptables as root during the boot process. If you want the GUI to start on login, I think you would need to do some fiddling in /etc/sudoers to make it possible. Personally I doubt that this is worth it, but you might disagree ... "man sudoers" has some information about enabling individual apps to run without a password as root, if you think it's important. The entry would be something like ray rushmore = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter where "rushmore" is the hostname of the machine, and "ray" is the user name (this is quoted more or less verbatim from the man page ) Peter From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Fri Dec 1 05:34:22 2006 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:34:22 +0000 Subject: wireless In-Reply-To: <456F9D62.8030100@cableone.net> References: <456E4556.6050705@cableone.net> <1164858386.9008.17.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <456F9D62.8030100@cableone.net> Message-ID: <1164951262.6219.20.camel@epsilon> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 21:11 -0600, tommy mcdurmon wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions. In spite of all this, I can connect with > Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP with no problems. It seems Linux could come > up with some solution without all the work and trouble I have had. I'll > keep using the dual boot until they arrive at a reasonable answer. > tom I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9200 with Dell's P.O.S. (Broadcom chipset) network card. I should have gone with the stock Intel card. Anyway, I had a bugger of a time getting the wireless to work until I found a deb package that installs the firmware necessary for my card. I seem to remember getting it either from a page on the Ubuntu wiki or forums. The file's name is bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb. Just install the file and it will place files in /lib/firmware all starting with bcm43xx_. dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb This will allow your card to use the already provided bcm43xx module included in the default install (At least I think it's included by default. Run `lsmod | grep bcm43xx` to be sure.). Then install the network manager package from the repositories. Run nm-applet and you should be able to connect to wireless access points though the little applet in the system tray. I'm writing this email connected in that very way. If you have any questions let me know. -- Brant Fitzsimmons BF Computer Consulting -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From scotth at csee.wvu.edu Fri Dec 1 05:43:21 2006 From: scotth at csee.wvu.edu (Scott J. Henson) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:43:21 -0500 Subject: postfix and blocking spam In-Reply-To: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > I used to run postfix as my mail server until about 2 years ago when I > switched to Debian and discovered sa-exim which can block spam at the > source by rejecting it before it ever gets sent using spamassassin. > I don't think that there is anything pre-packaged like sa-exim. But, I think what you want is before queue filters. See the following webpages for some explanation. You mean also want to look into header_checks and body_checks. http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_PROXY_README.html http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html http://www.postfix.org/CONTENT_INSPECTION_README.html Also, for general spam filtering stuff on postfix. http://www.oddquad.org/linux/anti-spam.html http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt -- Scott Henson LCSEE Systems Staff WVU MAE Undergraduate Ubuntu User From mark at halcy0n.com Fri Dec 1 05:46:40 2006 From: mark at halcy0n.com (Mark Loeser) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:46:40 -0500 Subject: postfix and blocking spam In-Reply-To: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <20061201054640.GC30466@aerie.halcy0n.com> Lorenzo Taylor said: > Is there currently a solution in Edgy for blocking spam that gives me > the power of sa-exim and works with postfix? Maybe there's something > even better? I'm definitely open to that possibility as well. Sounds like you want to look at amavisd-new. It lets you set exactly how to behave when it detects spam, a virus, and a few other things. amavisd-new also works with exim if you want to play with it with your current set up. -- Mark Loeser email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://www.halcy0n.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From li.beinan at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 06:37:15 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (Beinan Li) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:37:15 -0500 Subject: reinstall gnome without messing up other thing? Message-ID: <456FCD9B.4010001@gmail.com> My OS: Dapper x86 on AMD64 (with both gnome and kde installed) Problem: gnome was broken for unknown reason, saw flickering panel after seeing start-up splash and hearing loggin music. I turned off all startup program by editing ~/.config/Autostart/ and the problem is still there. Looks like the easiest way is to reinstall all GTK stuff. Any idea on how I do to have gnome back without messing up other things such as kde? Thanks! Beinan From ttmrichter at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 06:39:27 2006 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:39:27 +0800 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? Message-ID: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> I finally got around to installing Edgy on my testbed (and undoing some of its obnoxious behaviour on installation like "correcting" all my boot devices to be its partition....) and started to install the tools I need/like/want. One of those is Ruby 1.8. I've noticed since Breezy that Ruby Gems has not yet been packaged for Ubuntu and this confuses me. The fact that someone is packaging Ruby at all indicates that someone, somewhere likes Ruby enough to go through the backflips. Yet I'd be hard-pressed to find a deep Ruby user who doesn't use Gems. Is there some technical reason I'm unaware of making Ruby Gems not get packaged or is it a matter of missing manpower? -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery." --Abraham Lincoln -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From scotth at csee.wvu.edu Fri Dec 1 06:59:26 2006 From: scotth at csee.wvu.edu (Scott J. Henson) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:59:26 -0500 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Michael T. Richter wrote: > I finally got around to installing Edgy on my testbed (and undoing some > of its obnoxious behaviour on installation like "correcting" all my boot > devices to be its partition....) and started to install the tools I > need/like/want. One of those is Ruby 1.8. I've noticed since Breezy > that Ruby Gems has not yet been packaged for Ubuntu and this confuses > me. The fact that someone is packaging Ruby at all indicates that > someone, somewhere likes Ruby enough to go through the backflips. Yet > I'd be hard-pressed to find a deep Ruby user who doesn't use Gems. Is > there some technical reason I'm unaware of making Ruby Gems not get > packaged or is it a matter of missing manpower? Don't know why it wasn't done for edgy, but I have good news... scotth at wildfire:~$ apt-cache policy rubygems rubygems: Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.9.0-5 Version table: 0.9.0-5 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages -- Scott Henson LCSEE Systems Staff WVU MAE Undergraduate Ubuntu User From kristian at zimmer428.net Fri Dec 1 07:10:01 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:10:01 +0100 Subject: notebook decision? In-Reply-To: <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <456E8A8C.6010902@zimmer428.net> <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <456FD549.8050109@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Ron, @list; Renaud (Ron) Olgiati schrieb: >> Nevertheless, so >> chances are I will go with the Toshiba as (even though it comes >> pre-installed with XP Professional) it seems to be a better choice > > First time you run it refuse to acknowledge the MS license, and claim your > money back ? Yeah, I am also pondering that very idea. Even though I don't have to "personally" pay for the device (as it will be my working gear...), someone actually has to pay for it. And I like the idea of giving some "motivation" to manufacturers selling devices without applying "Windows tax" to it. I will see what I can do here. :) Cheers, Kris - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFb9VJcxBAPOA1m6wRAvmdAJ9p/7M9S7X7syi/BvPtSjCM3iwj2gCdH0sC mGawWTIMBUFnUWWqN132Pso= =vXlC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kristian at zimmer428.net Fri Dec 1 07:13:36 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:13:36 +0100 Subject: notebook decision? In-Reply-To: <1164938551.11389.15.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456E8A8C.6010902@zimmer428.net> <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1164938551.11389.15.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <456FD620.8070003@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there; Chanchao schrieb: > The man's company already owns licenses I think. Claiming your money > back applies to computers bought with OEM versions of Windows installed. You're right, but even this is a reason worth claiming money back I think - in the end, I want to buy _hardware_ here. Personally, I prefer running Ubuntu or some other Linux distribution on my machines. In our company, we do have a bunch of Windows XP licenses, and I do own one to run inside VMWare server. Do I have to pay for _another_ one, no matter whether I actually need it, no matter whether I want to use Linux or a Windows license I paid earlier? This whole sort of OEM software bundling might be okay selling computers for "home usage", but it's not something I want while buying professional equipment - both because it interfers with my (the system administrators) license management policy and because it "mixes up" hardware and software costs while trying compare different offers. This is considerably bad. Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFb9YgcxBAPOA1m6wRAs3UAJ9B+yD75MkW4WhgTr+6HrPlzv5UMwCfXshu 68apibsL8R2VNP9WA0prqZo= =r6Bg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Dec 1 08:17:00 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:17:00 +1100 Subject: wireless In-Reply-To: <1164951262.6219.20.camel@epsilon> References: <456E4556.6050705@cableone.net> <1164858386.9008.17.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <456F9D62.8030100@cableone.net> <1164951262.6219.20.camel@epsilon> Message-ID: <20061201191700.60c991b1.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:34:22 +0000 Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > I seem to > remember getting it either from a page on the Ubuntu wiki or forums. > The file's name is bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb. > > Just install the file and it will place files in /lib/firmware all > starting with bcm43xx_. > > dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb I did the same on an iBook G4 with a bcm43xx card ( Broadcom, "Airport Extreme" in my case) The files / repos are at http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/ for dapper) or http://au.ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/ (for edgy - 6.10 ) Once the firmware is installed , it's just a matter of loading the bcm43xx module, ( sudo modprobe bcm43xx ) and a couple of simple steps. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-April/017323.html which explains how it's done... The repos are browsable if you just need to grab the firmware deb ( use one of the mirrors) . Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Dec 1 08:28:45 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:28:45 +1100 Subject: Correction: Re: Start Up Programs ( firestarter ) In-Reply-To: <20061201163407.7d050fd4.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <1164942567.5257.7.camel@wadesmart> <20061201163407.7d050fd4.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20061201192845.e0fd2609.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Correction to my post - apt-file shows /usr/sbin/firestarter ( not /usr/bin/firestarter as below) Apologies for the error - I don't currently have firestarter installed and trusted to memory too much... > > The entry would be something like > > ray rushmore = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter > > where "rushmore" is the hostname of the machine, and "ray" is the user name > (this is quoted more or less verbatim from the man page ) > > Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Dec 1 08:37:47 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:37:47 +1100 Subject: alternative cd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061201193747.afcca1f8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:23:47 +0530 "YAGNESH N DESAI" wrote: > Sorry I can not help but once you install > the alternative CD do let me know if it > installs in text mode or its also a live CD. The alternative CD is a text mode installer based on the Debian installer. > > As on the older P1 m/c that I have Live CD > does not work due to resource limitaitons. On a P1 I would suggest trying the Xubuntu version, for example one of those under "Alternative" on this page (or a mirror site of it) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ This is the Dapper version, of course - the Edgy version is also available http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/ Depending on the age, speed and RAM of a P1, you may find that even these are not possible, in which case you would need to install using the "server" or text option on the CD, then installing lighter packages - assuming you need X and a window manager. Peter From ttmrichter at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 08:38:19 2006 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:38:19 +0800 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-01-12 at 01:59 -0500, Scott J. Henson wrote: > Don't know why it wasn't done for edgy, but I have good news... > scotth at wildfire:~$ apt-cache policy rubygems > rubygems: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 0.9.0-5 > Version table: > 0.9.0-5 0 > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages Now that is good news. Does anybody know of the prospects of a backport to Edgy and/or Dapper? -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery." --Abraham Lincoln -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you out there > Norman? Yes I am thank you and I am running Dapper. I found the file and have made the changes. Now all I have to do is set up the windows box and test things. Hopefully, some time today. Norman From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 1 08:51:35 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:51:35 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather than running constantly. Norman From wattazoum at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 09:12:19 2006 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:12:19 +0100 Subject: easyubuntu also for edgy? In-Reply-To: <1164939190.11389.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <20061130162501.GB21654@gmx.de> <1164939190.11389.19.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <456FF1F3.4000902@gmail.com> Chanchao a écrit : > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:25 +0100, Luqman wrote: > >> I would like to install multimedia capabilities in edgy (mp3, mpeg4, >> divx etc..). In Dapper, I used easyubuntu. But easyubuntu support Edgy >> aswell? > > To me it's not worth the risk. And there seriously is only a handful of > packages to install to get it all. Check the RestrictedFormats page. > (Google 'ubuntu' and 'restrictedformats') > > It can all be done in your regular graphical environment with Synaptic. > > Actually the time saved with Automatix is minimal; it still has to > download the stuff! The part I find interesting in Automatix is not the time saved, but the avoidment of the annoying moment of searching and installing packages one by one (sure there is some automatic dependencies selection but still) . For the first time you install a system it may be interesting to do it "manually" but when you're used to it , it's just an annoying moment. You're pointing the fact that it still has to download the stuff. You can do something else during this time , right? but when it's up to you to make the research, you have to stay and wait for each download to finish and then make another research, look the documentation of the restricted Format and download again other stuff. I can't find Automatix worthless. It's a very big win of time to use it. From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 09:13:03 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:13:03 +0100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612010113h878fa65xdac9cc3b8c5c5bec@mail.gmail.com> On 12/1/06, Peter Hummers wrote: I turn off the computer, audio system (a "bass speaker" and 2 extra speakers), the printer and the monitor, the router, then unplug everything, then go to sleep at night. This not because of the strain in components (let's face it, it's unlikely I'll be running this same system in 5 years, and it's worked well for 2 years already) but because I don't want to waste power. Transformers leak, so I unplug them when I don't use them. Furthermore, this way I protect the system from random electrical storms. I could buy an UPS, but that'd cost me, I don't _need_ it, and my neighbors would kill me when the beep started. I could buy a "surge protected" plugset, but somehow I don't trust them that much. So the economical solution is to unplug everything I can when I go to sleep, or in case of electrical storms. Even the DSL cable, of course. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 09:26:26 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:26:26 +0700 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 08:51 +0000, norman wrote: > I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > than running constantly. I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out with every spin. The components that would be affected by warming up & cooling down are mostly all the chips & memory.. But those don't break in a typical life time of just about any computer anyway. If they're affected then it could be because of dust, and dust is actually sucked in more as the machine is running longer. Overall I think an effect, positive or negative, is minimal. (esp. if you allow drives to go to sleep) Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 1 09:26:41 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:26:41 +0700 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 08:51 +0000, norman wrote: > I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > than running constantly. I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out with every spin. The components that would be affected by warming up & cooling down are mostly all the chips & memory.. But those don't break in a typical life time of just about any computer anyway. If they're affected then it could be because of dust, and dust is actually sucked in more as the machine is running longer. Overall I think an effect, positive or negative, is minimal. (esp. if you allow drives to go to sleep) Cheers, Chanchao From dave at restall.net Fri Dec 1 09:48:17 2006 From: dave at restall.net (David Restall - System Administrator) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:48:17 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? Message-ID: Hi, I leave mine on all the time - again because it runs services that are used by others. If it was just my desktop it would be turned off and unplugged when not in use - why waste power ? > > I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > > that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > > than running constantly. > > I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most > likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out > with every spin. I worked with a brain dead systems manager years ago who had the same idea and I got grief because on my shift at the end of the day I would go round and turn off all the machines in his area. He got really shirty with me turning them off and I got the spiel about keeping them on, less thermal shock etc. I argued against it, i.e. extra running costs, aircon needed all the time, machines doing nothing (this was pre seti so even the idle time wasn't being constructive), global warming etc. but was over ruled. One night we had a power failure and next morning over half the lab wouldn't start because the hard drives wouldn't spin up. We ended up having to buy a lot of kit in one go because of the stupidity of leaving stuff on, if we'd been turning the boxes off the disks may well have lasted longer and it is very unlikely that they would have all broken on the same day :-) I just kept quiet and didn't gloat ;-) TTFN D ubuntu/2006-12-01.tx ubuntu-users +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4 FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4 FCU | | email : dave at restall.net Web : http://dave.restall.net | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. | | -- Jules de Gaultier | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 1 10:15:08 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:15:08 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> > > I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > > that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > > than running constantly. > > I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most > likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out > with every spin. < snip > You must understand that I am quite ancient and my memory goes back to the days before transistors were invented. We used 'valves' or 'tubes' and these lasted much longer by being left on permanently. Also I suspect that the quality of resistors, capacitors etc was no where near as good as those used today. Norman From phummers at iname.com Fri Dec 1 10:33:47 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:33:47 -0500 Subject: notebook decision? In-Reply-To: <1164938551.11389.15.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456E8A8C.6010902@zimmer428.net> <200611301809.04164.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1164938551.11389.15.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <4570050B.3030703@iname.com> Chanchao wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:09 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > >> First time you run it refuse to acknowledge the MS license, and claim your >> money back ? > > The man's company already owns licenses I think. Claiming your money > back applies to computers bought with OEM versions of Windows installed. > > But yeah, it would be cool if more peopel did that. Not because it > would hurt Microsoft in the slightest, but because it would > manufacturers think more seriously about offering computers without OS, > with FreeDOS or any Linux flavor. > > Cheers, > Chanchao Here's the saga of someone who tried it in 1998 ... http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html and in 1999 some folks tried a Windows Refund Day in San Francisco (and NZ) http://preview.tinyurl.com/y4bpla I thought the movement had died down, but here's an article from Tuxmachines.org from this month. Someone got a refund: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/10873 -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From info at swimbarrow.co.uk Fri Dec 1 11:02:18 2006 From: info at swimbarrow.co.uk (South Walney Information Management) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:02:18 +0000 Subject: Edgy Upgrades Message-ID: <45700BBA.9070101@swimbarrow.co.uk> I'm not getting update notiofications with my Edgy. Actually I think that might be something to do with having started with Kubuntu, regretted it, and reverted to Ubuntu with GNOME, expunging all traces of KDE. Apart from the lack of update notifications it works fine, and I can update with sudo apt-get update, when I remember (which isn't all that often, to be truthful.) Or at least I could until I tried it today, and then I got this message: > enitharmon at FatAndy:~$ sudo apt-get update [...] > Fetched 9648B in 1s (6958B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > enitharmon at FatAndy:~$ A bit of a circular problem! Help! Rosie From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 11:05:13 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:05:13 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45391f280612010305t15f08e95i106e4c5d74f32565@mail.gmail.com> On 01/12/06, norman wrote: > > > You must understand that I am quite ancient and my memory goes back to > the days before transistors were invented. We used 'valves' or 'tubes' > and these lasted much longer by being left on permanently. Also I > suspect that the quality of resistors, capacitors etc was no where near > as good as those used today. I agree that the quality if components can be suspect at times. I personally leave my machine on 24/7 and have done for the last 6 years or thereabouts. I've only had 2 pieces of hardware fail on me, and both of them have been sticks of RAM. Maybe I'd have had more failures if the machines had been powered down repeatedly, and maybe not. Slightly related is the policy at work for the desktops - they are turned off each night. The mainframes however, are never powered down - we can't afford for them to not come back up when they switched on, and the cost of that potentially happening far outweighs the added expense of the air-con, machine-room staff, electricity, stand-by generators and so forth. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 12:31:27 2006 From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:31:27 +0000 Subject: Edgy Upgrades In-Reply-To: <45700BBA.9070101@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <45700BBA.9070101@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200612011231.28158.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> Rosie > > Fetched 9648B in 1s (6958B/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: > > The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public > > key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 W: You may want > > to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > enitharmon at FatAndy:~$ > > A bit of a circular problem! Yes... I've had the same problem for days.... Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/free Packages Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/non-free Packages Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/free Sources Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/non-free Sources Fetched 9648B in 2s (4462B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems I've used Google to find various pages on the Ubuntu site and other places which describe how to fix this and nothing that I have found on the net works. I've also checked that I have the correct key on my machine but that still doesn't mean that it works... $ gpg --list-sigs F120156012B83718 pub 1024D/12B83718 2006-06-20 uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) sig 3 12B83718 2006-06-20 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) uid Lionel Le Folgoc sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) sig 3 12B83718 2006-11-28 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) sig 3 12B83718 2006-11-28 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) uid Lionel Le Folgoc (Penguin Liberation Front) sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) sub 2048g/810AB006 2006-06-20 sig 12B83718 2006-06-20 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) -- Richard From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 1 01:47:10 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:47:10 -0400 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: Peter Hummers wrote: > I found this on Digg, about the energy-saving aspects of turning > computers off when not in use (/not/ about the software, which is > Windows only): > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/yk9lqr > > On Un*x, I've always left my computer on overnight (actually, for months > at a time) to let cron do its housekeeping, but I see that Ubuntu > installs anacron, which will complete the same tasks according to time > elapsed since the last instance, not absolute time (i.e. 15:00). > > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? I live off-grid, so I turn off _everything_. I only use laptops, but I almost never actually reboot - just hibernate & resume. -- derek From kristian at zimmer428.net Fri Dec 1 12:45:16 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:45:16 +0100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> Message-ID: <457023DC.2040407@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all; Peter Hummers schrieb: > How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? Daily. I don't really care about hunting for any "top uptime" (after all, that's what I do have servers for, at work. :] ), and by now I don't see why my machine should be running when I'm out of home, asleep or something this way. Energy is too valuable a resource to be turned into heat for nothing. ;) Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFcCPccxBAPOA1m6wRAm5eAJ95VU6X5lV8Ff3uq5irQbNgG/aAMwCfbqpU SxbIdVaRYRQ8urSfgBMAerU= =Lg8R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk Fri Dec 1 13:22:07 2006 From: John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk (John) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:22:07 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> norman wrote: >>> I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe >>> that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather >>> than running constantly. >>> >> I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most >> likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out >> with every spin. >> > > < snip > > > You must understand that I am quite ancient and my memory goes back to > the days before transistors were invented. We used 'valves' or 'tubes' > and these lasted much longer by being left on permanently. Also I > suspect that the quality of resistors, capacitors etc was no where near > as good as those used today. > > Norman > > > Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Dec 1 13:25:38 2006 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 8:25:38 -0500 Subject: postfix and blocking spam In-Reply-To: <20061201054640.GC30466@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> <20061201054640.GC30466@aerie.halcy0n.com> Message-ID: <27101-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C195E05E@[75.195.212.193]> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:46:40 -0500 Mark Loeser wrote: >Lorenzo Taylor said: >> Is there currently a solution in Edgy for blocking spam that gives me >> the power of sa-exim and works with postfix? Maybe there's something >> even better? I'm definitely open to that possibility as well. > >Sounds like you want to look at amavisd-new. It lets you set exactly >how to behave when it detects spam, a virus, and a few other things. >amavisd-new also works with exim if you want to play with it with your >current set up. Yes. That's what I was going to recommend too. Pre-queue filtering has its risks, but it's quit doable. Scott K From tchize at myrealbox.com Fri Dec 1 13:42:06 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:42:06 +0100 Subject: Edgy Upgrades In-Reply-To: <200612011231.28158.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> References: <45700BBA.9070101@swimbarrow.co.uk> <200612011231.28158.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4570312E.6090601@myrealbox.com> Hi, When you add an external repository (like plf), you must also add the signature of the repository to the list of apt trusted key like this: :~$wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O /tmp/key :~$sudo apt-key add /tmp/key Now it's added. Please note we used apt-key, !not! gpg (the apt key list has nothing to do with you personal key list) You can check key is correctly added like this: :~$sudo apt-key list It should outputs this: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg -------------------- ..... pub 1024D/12B83718 2006-06-20 uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) uid Lionel Le Folgoc (Penguin Liberation Front) uid Lionel Le Folgoc sub 2048g/810AB006 2006-06-20 Richard Ibbotson a écrit : > Rosie > > >>> Fetched 9648B in 1s (6958B/s) >>> Reading package lists... Done >>> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: >>> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public >>> key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 W: You may want >>> to run apt-get update to correct these problems >>> enitharmon at FatAndy:~$ >>> >> A bit of a circular problem! >> > > Yes... I've had the same problem for days.... > > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/free Packages > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/non-free Packages > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/free Sources > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf/non-free Sources > Fetched 9648B in 2s (4462B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The > following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is > not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > > I've used Google to find various pages on the Ubuntu site and other > places which describe how to fix this and nothing that I have found > on the net works. I've also checked that I have the correct key on > my machine but that still doesn't mean that it works... > > $ gpg --list-sigs F120156012B83718 > pub 1024D/12B83718 2006-06-20 > uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > sig 3 12B83718 2006-06-20 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > uid Lionel Le Folgoc > sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > sig 3 12B83718 2006-11-28 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > uid Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > sig 3 12B83718 2006-11-28 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > uid Lionel Le Folgoc (Penguin Liberation Front) > > sig 3 12B83718 2006-08-29 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > sub 2048g/810AB006 2006-06-20 > sig 12B83718 2006-06-20 Lionel Le Folgoc (mr_pouit) > > > > > From dave at restall.net Fri Dec 1 13:47:43 2006 From: dave at restall.net (David Restall - System Administrator) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:47:43 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? Message-ID: Hi, > norman wrote: > >>> I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > >>> that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > >>> than running constantly. > >>> > >> I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most > >> likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out > >> with every spin. > >> > > > > < snip > > > > > You must understand that I am quite ancient and my memory goes back to > > the days before transistors were invented. We used 'valves' or 'tubes' > > and these lasted much longer by being left on permanently. Also I > > suspect that the quality of resistors, capacitors etc was no where near > > as good as those used today. > > > > Norman > > > > > > > > Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in > fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. Hmm, I think you're quite well wide of the mark here John. There is no proof anywhere that I have read that definitely backs up the warm vs cold wear life though if you can point me to some definitive work I would be more than happy to change my mind. As for bearings, how do you explain noisy fans or even siezed fans. There is contact and the bearings wear. Have a look at for further info. TTFN D ubuntu/users-2006-12-01.2.tx ubuntu--users +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4 FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4 FCU | | email : dave at restall.net Web : http://dave.restall.net | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | BOFH excuse #28: | | | | CPU radiator broken | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From harley7 at cogeco.ca Fri Dec 1 14:00:02 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:00:02 -0500 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <456F83B2.7080403@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3D4F.9080105@cogeco.ca> <456F6CEF.1090903@gmail.com> <456F759B.2080805@cogeco.ca> <456F83B2.7080403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45703562.2020209@cogeco.ca> Mitch Contla wrote: > I'm running Dapper, so it may be different. In fact > /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is referenced as an include file from > /etc/cups/cupsd.conf (so is browse.conf). Normally, you would simply > stick the Listen directives directly in cupsd.conf, but the ubuntu (and > probably debian) packages, at least through Dapper, use include files so > that changes to cupsd.conf are minimized. > > Based on what your telling me, it appears the package maintainers may > have reverted to calling these directives in cupsd.conf, which is how a > "normal" cups install would work. I'm assuming that: > > $ cat /etc/cups/cupsd.conf | grep '^[^#]*Listen' > > ... would verify this. Yep here it is: $ cat /etc/cups/cupsd.conf | grep '^[^#]*Listen' Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock > Of course for Norman, this means that if he's running Edgy, my > instructions will need to be altered a bit to add the add/modify the > Listen directives directly in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. Are you out there > Norman? Well I see that he's running dapper, so all is good over there I would guess. > It would be nice if the package maintainers picked one way and stuck > with it! Indeed. It's bad enough that config files vary between distros, but when things are different across different versions of the same distro.... very confusing. :/ Bill From akshay at lambaweb.com Fri Dec 1 14:00:39 2006 From: akshay at lambaweb.com (Akshay Lamba) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:00:39 +0400 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <457023DC.2040407@zimmer428.net> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <457023DC.2040407@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: <45703587.4030002@lambaweb.com> Peter Hummers schrieb: >> How often do you all turn off your desktop Ubuntu boxes? >> Home Gateway: Ubuntu Dapper: up 13 days Home Laptop: Ubuntu Edgy: Daily Personal Server: Ubuntu Dapper: up 45 days Office Server(s): Ubuntu Dapper: over 3 months From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 14:32:26 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:32:26 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> On 01/12/06, John wrote: Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in > fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. > Non-contact bearings? Where can I buy my own anti-gravity machine to operate my own non-contact devices and frictionless systems. Perpetual motion, here I come. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45704380.9060707@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Steve Flynn wrote: > On 01/12/06, *John* > wrote: > > Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in > fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. > > > Non-contact bearings? Where can I buy my own anti-gravity machine to > operate my own non-contact devices and frictionless systems. Perpetual > motion, here I come. > > -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... Look into air bearings - the spinning motion 'injects' a film of air into the gap between the rotating parts, no contact, just like a hovercraft. Look into maglev trains - the electro magnetic effect of what is, in effect, an unwrapped motor, provides the separation between the fixed rail and the moving train (you must have heard about the crash in Germany in the last few months! Same effect is used in some small fans. From almilis at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 15:00:12 2006 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 22:00:12 +0700 Subject: SCMXX (Siemens ME75) How to get the complete addressbook? Message-ID: <36135600612010700q63b12f93u4a8cfc079faf903d@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Is there anyway to get the complete address book by using SCMXX? I tried, "scmxx --get --pbook --mem VCF -o testing" but got only the names and phone numbers. Any clues? -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Dec 1 15:18:32 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:18:32 -0500 Subject: postfix and blocking spam In-Reply-To: <27101-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C195E05E@[75.195.212.193]> References: <20061201051050.GA5364@taylor.homelinux.net> <20061201054640.GC30466@aerie.halcy0n.com> <27101-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C195E05E@[75.195.212.193]> Message-ID: <20061201151832.GA16000@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to all who helped. I am now running postfix with amavisd-new and all is working perfectly. Ubuntu really rocks, both the distro and the community. Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFcEfIG9IpekrhBfIRAsLYAKCTy6dJ7FfUHnhQyejBJnW+9mzF0gCgyD2J CtXDL3D6m4/LrYB3Z+weIW0= =rZj/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From runlevel7 at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 16:51:35 2006 From: runlevel7 at gmail.com (Al Gordon) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:51:35 -0500 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Not sure about the backporting thing, but I just install rubygems on my system using checkinstall, easily making my own .deb for it. I believe that these were the steps I used (going from memory here): 1. apt-get install checkinstall 2. Download rubygems from rubyforge and extract tarball. 3. cd to rubygems directory. 4. Type: checkinstall ruby ./setup.rb 5. Answer some questions. 6. Install the resulting .deb package. According to the rubygems site: "Debian Linux: Debian does not automatically include all the standard Ruby libararies in the basic Ruby package. As a result, you may need to ''apt-get'' libyaml-ruby and libzlib-ruby before you can install rubygems." ... so, you may have to follow that advice on Ubuntu as well. -- -- AL -- On 12/1/06, Michael T. Richter wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-01-12 at 01:59 -0500, Scott J. Henson wrote: > Don't know why it wasn't done for edgy, but I have good news... > > > > scotth at wildfire:~$ apt-cache policy rubygems > rubygems: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 0.9.0-5 > Version table: > 0.9.0-5 0 > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages > > > Now that is good news. Does anybody know of the prospects of a backport to > Edgy and/or Dapper? > > > -- > Michael T. Richter > Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com > MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: > michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: > mtr1966 at jabber.cn > > "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not > either to save or to destroy slavery." --Abraham Lincoln > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > From gcvisel at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 16:58:10 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:58:10 -0600 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <76800d9c0612010858m556dbe58ub6b0b33e28b15c9c@mail.gmail.com> What do Ruby do? On 12/1/06, Al Gordon wrote: > Not sure about the backporting thing, but I just install rubygems on > my system using checkinstall, easily making my own .deb for it. I > believe that these were the steps I used (going from memory here): > > 1. apt-get install checkinstall > 2. Download rubygems from rubyforge and extract tarball. > 3. cd to rubygems directory. > 4. Type: checkinstall ruby ./setup.rb > 5. Answer some questions. > 6. Install the resulting .deb package. > > According to the rubygems site: > "Debian Linux: Debian does not automatically include all the standard > Ruby libararies in the basic Ruby package. As a result, you may need > to ''apt-get'' libyaml-ruby and libzlib-ruby before you can install > rubygems." > > ... so, you may have to follow that advice on Ubuntu as well. > > -- > > -- AL -- From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Dec 1 01:59:30 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:59:30 +0100 Subject: Upgrade form Dapper to Edgy Eft In-Reply-To: (Richard Ibbotson's message of "Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:08:14 +0000") References: Message-ID: <878xhsfkal.fsf@spamfence.net> "Richard Ibbotson" wrote: > I've upgraded my workstation from Dapper to Edgy Eft. Part way through the > upgrade using 'gksu "update-manager -c" ' the upgrade halted and asked me to > use Synaptic to repair the damage. This doesn't work either. Output of some > error messages is..... > > "there are 70 broken packages on your system!" Use the broken filter > to locate them. Done that... and it says.. > > "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: > trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package > iglooftp" I had a similar problem and AFAIR I solved it by deinstalling the conflicting package (iglooftp for you) using dpkg (not apt*): dpkg -r iglooftp and reinstalling it after the upgrade Florian -- From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 17:44:41 2006 From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:44:41 +0000 Subject: Upgrade form Dapper to Edgy Eft In-Reply-To: <878xhsfkal.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <878xhsfkal.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <200612011744.43799.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> Florian > I had a similar problem and AFAIR I solved it by deinstalling the > conflicting package (iglooftp for you) using dpkg (not apt*): >  dpkg -r iglooftp > and reinstalling it after the upgrade Yes.. managed to do that.  I've even managed to get Nvidia Riva TNT2 driver working for 3D acceleration.  No sign of any documentation anywhere which explains that you need to use the legacy drivers to make it work.   Took me two days to figure it out myself. Most things are working now.  I wait for the hoped for avalanche of updates to arrive. -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Dec 1 17:43:33 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:43:33 +0000 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: <76800d9c0612010858m556dbe58ub6b0b33e28b15c9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <76800d9c0612010858m556dbe58ub6b0b33e28b15c9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061201174333.GM4235@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (01/12/06 10:58), Gerry Visel wrote: > What do Ruby do? Google gives: http://www2.ruby-lang.org/en/20020101.html and you may want to check out: http://www.rubyonrails.org/ Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 1 17:08:52 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:08:52 -0400 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <464644-9em.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> John wrote: > Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in > fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. Non-contact? A little hard to believe - I've had more than one desktop system that has started to howl after a year or two. It's not possible for them to run _without_ friction. -- derek From DaveM at Mich.Com Fri Dec 1 19:37:53 2006 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:53 -0500 Subject: Opening .dar files? Message-ID: <4.2.2.20061201142033.01fe4860@pop.mich.com> I am considering using Dar or KDar (and growisofs) on my desktop system to do automated archival backups to DVD+RW media. Some questions: What (if any) are the advantages of using Dar over Tar? Are there any other programs (Linux-OSS and/or Windows) that can open .dar file sets? I tried using the archive manager but that doesn't open them. I also tried Total Commander (on Windows) but that doesn't work either. Is there anything on the Ubuntu Live CD that can extract .dar file sets? How stable is the .dar file format? Is it likely to be around for the foreseeable future? How well does Dar cope with media defects/file corruption? How much do I loose if I loose one slice of my backup set? Can the rest of the set still be restored without the corrupted slice? ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Inter-networked computers give you freedom. The "Trusted Computing Platform" could take that freedom away. http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php From carl at personnelware.com Fri Dec 1 22:24:28 2006 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:24:28 -0600 Subject: kern says: Disabling IRQ #11 Message-ID: <4570AB9C.1040706@personnelware.com> every so often I get this broadcast: amd15 kernel: [17181859.980000] Disabling IRQ #11 end of dmesg says: [17181859.980000] irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option) [17181859.980000] __report_bad_irq+0x24/0x80 note_interrupt+0x9d/0x270 [17181859.980000] usb_hcd_irq+0x24/0x60 [usbcore] handle_IRQ_event+0x33/0x60 [17181859.980000] __do_IRQ+0xf8/0x110 do_IRQ+0x19/0x30 [17181859.980000] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 default_idle+0x0/0x60 [17181859.980000] default_idle+0x2a/0x60 cpu_idle+0x42/0xb0 [17181859.980000] start_kernel+0x321/0x3a0 unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x270 [17181859.980000] handlers: [17181859.980000] [] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore]) [17181859.980000] [] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore]) [17181859.980000] [] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore]) [17181859.980000] Disabling IRQ #11 What is going on? Carl K From carl at personnelware.com Fri Dec 1 22:40:15 2006 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:40:15 -0600 Subject: Webmin on Dapper\Edgy In-Reply-To: <7156d5f20611261523m24db2feaq6f7cc56bfdf3de6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <45682575.6070403@freakinabox.com> <1164455838.7020.18.camel@localhost> <1164462975.4920.20.camel@r4000> <45685A8B.8080104@earthlink.net> <456861C3.3070607@deansas.org> <7156d5f20611261523m24db2feaq6f7cc56bfdf3de6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4570AF4F.40309@personnelware.com> > On 11/25/06, Dean Sas wrote: >> >> >> From: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020471.html >> >> "And I was really hoping no one would bring up webmin. It's a piece of >> software so horrifyingly vile that we want absolutely _nothing_ to do >> with it, not even carry it in the Ubuntu archive. The entirety of the >> ubuntu-server team had a small celebration the day that package was >> killed." >> >> Steve Tripp wrote: > Well, I've been using Webmin for quite a few years and don't plan on > stopping now just because some developers poo poo it. I'm not privy to > what > makes them say that about one of the most stable and versatile apps I've > ever used, but it's no skin off my nose because I've always installed from > tarball. I've used Webmin in quite a few situations on a dozen Linux > flavors, Solaris, HP-UX, FreeBSD, and Mac OS X where endusers needed > restricted gui access to server processes and there is not a lot out there > that can compete with Webmin for working uniformly across platforms. It is > not perfect, but neither is any other piece of software out there. > > Could it be Perl jealousy? > I am sure it is explained. I would also not ignore what you call "some developers poo poo it" - at least find out why. From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Fri Dec 1 22:50:24 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:50:24 -0800 Subject: alternative cd In-Reply-To: <20061201193747.afcca1f8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20061201193747.afcca1f8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4570B1B0.6020001@systemstheory.net> Peter Garrett wrote: > On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:23:47 +0530 > "YAGNESH N DESAI" wrote: > >> Sorry I can not help but once you install >> the alternative CD do let me know if it >> installs in text mode or its also a live CD. > > The alternative CD is a text mode installer based on the Debian installer. >> >> As on the older P1 m/c that I have Live CD >> does not work due to resource limitaitons. > > On a P1 I would suggest trying the Xubuntu > version, for example one of those under "Alternative" on this page (or a > mirror site of it) > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ > > This is the Dapper version, of course - the Edgy version is also > available > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/ > > Depending on the age, speed and RAM of a P1, you may find that even these > are not possible, in which case you would need to install using the > "server" or text option on the CD, then installing lighter packages - > assuming you need X and a window manager. > > Peter I have an 8 year old PII 450mhz laptop with 256mb of PC100 ram that I use when I'm in the field. Xubuntu works really well in it, to the extent that I have just brought up a VMWare 10gb WinME virtual. The XFCE desktop is quite functional and full-featured for a "slim" GUI front-end. Not bad at all! -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: Icehouse "Great Southern Land" From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Dec 1 22:52:15 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:52:15 +0000 Subject: I need help or advice for 3 issues concerning Gateway MX675 laptop In-Reply-To: <456E350B.3040104@comcast.net> References: <456E350B.3040104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1165013535.5504.7.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 20:34 -0500, Kel wrote: > irst I would like to say that Ubuntu rocks. Having said that I am > trying to resolve several issues with Ubuntu edgy on my Gateway MX675 > laptop. I haven't been able to get the internal wireless broadcom card > to work with either NDiswrapper or the cutter. I am a moderate to > intermediate Linux user, I can get the OS to recognize the card, the > card is active, I have been unable to get the card to see any network > for me to connect to. I might be able to help you there, I recently got three different Broadcom based cards working well using combinations of fw-cutter and ndiswrapper. Let us know the actual chipset number, you can prob find out by running: lspci|grep Broadcom or lspci|grep Broadcom\ Corporation Also if you are trying to use ndiswrapper make sure the bcm43xx module isn't loaded sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx and if it works then you can blacklist the blighter. > My second problem is sound, my laptop comes with > the Intel ICH5 driver. I have tried various settings with Alsa, no luck > in getting any sound out of the laptop. Third, I have been unsuccessful > in getting my Verizon V620 broadband card to work. The card initializes > but never seems to connect. > > Because of the fact that I like Ubuntu so much over the other flavors of > Linux, I have decided to continue tinkering and researching the issues > mentioned until I find a solution, no matter how frustrating it becomes. I respect any one with that kind of resolve. In fact that's how I began with Linux about 9 months ago. Except then I simply said I'm not using winduz no matter what. From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Fri Dec 1 22:57:21 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:57:21 -0500 Subject: Opening .dar files? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20061201142033.01fe4860@pop.mich.com> References: <4.2.2.20061201142033.01fe4860@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <20061201225721.GA18080@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - From looking at the dar package description it would seem that dar is in universe, so wouldn't be on the live CD. There may be other alternatives available to open .dar files that I am unaware of, but the package called "dar" is in universe and therefore would have to be installed while the live CD is running in order to use it. And yes it is possible to install a package while the live CD is running, it just goes away the next time you boot the CD. Just be sure to uncomment the universe repository if necessary and apt-get update before installing packages. The number of extra packages you will be able to install will depend on the amount of ram you have. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFcLNRG9IpekrhBfIRApSmAKCRf44BIqMSmH//yfrsLdVme4c/lACeIgPU T8wLA37Mtx4rw07MOcfvYZk= =dC1M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Fri Dec 1 23:15:19 2006 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (Wim Delvaux) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:15:19 +0100 Subject: php-mail-mime: warnings on E_ALL level about returning temporary variables in mime.php Message-ID: <20061201231519.15273.70673.reportbug@GCV> Package: php-mail-mime Version: 1.3.1-1 Severity: important when running on E_ALL error level, php5 produces warnings about returned temporary variables. This can be fixed by temporary assigning the results to some local variable and returning that local variable This occurs on the following lines in mime.php in _addTextPart when returning new Mail_mimePart to be replaced by $X = new Mail_mimePart return $X; in _addMixedPart when returning new Mail_mimePart to be replaced by $X = new Mail_mimePart return $X; in _addAttachmentPart when returning $obj->addSubpart( ... to be replaced by $X = $obj->addSubpart( ... return $X; in headers when returning $this->_encodeHeaders( ... to be replaced by $X = $this->_encodeHeaders( ... return $X; -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers edgy-updates APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages php-mail-mime depends on: ii php4-pear 4:4.4.2-1.1 PHP Extension and Application Repo php-mail-mime recommends no packages. -- no debconf information From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 00:35:33 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:35:33 -0600 Subject: HOW do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> Since I upgraded to Edgy, my computer will not turn off when I "shut it down." It goes to the Kubuntu desplash screen, walks across its progress bar, flashes a black screen, and then returns to the splash screen and sits. No drive activity thereafter. I have to hold the power switch down for five seconds to shut it down. Dapper behaved properly and shut off the box after the desplash screen progress bar got to the end. Is there something I can do to get this behavior back? Thanks, Gerry From davidbteague at verizon.net Sat Dec 2 00:42:26 2006 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:42:26 -0500 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition Message-ID: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> If I understand this article correctly: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux-NTFS_Status there is a new NTFS Kernel driver for kernels 2.5.11 and later that supports reading and writing to NTFS partitions. Does Ubuntu have this kernel? If not, what plans to include this kernel are there? Is it true that reading from NTFS partitions could cause corruption of the partition? If anyone has experience with reading from or writing to an NTFS partition please post your experience. It is possible all this is in a FAQ / README If so, please point me in the right direction. David Teague From ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us Sat Dec 2 01:00:16 2006 From: ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us (Abraham Rolick) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:00:16 -0800 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> Message-ID: I've been using ntfs-3g with a great deal of success -Abe -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David B Teague Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:42 PM To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition If I understand this article correctly: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux-NTFS_Status there is a new NTFS Kernel driver for kernels 2.5.11 and later that supports reading and writing to NTFS partitions. Does Ubuntu have this kernel? If not, what plans to include this kernel are there? Is it true that reading from NTFS partitions could cause corruption of the partition? If anyone has experience with reading from or writing to an NTFS partition please post your experience. It is possible all this is in a FAQ / README If so, please point me in the right direction. David Teague -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sat Dec 2 01:18:19 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:18:19 -0500 Subject: HOW do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <4570D45B.8030502@cogeco.ca> Maybe this forum thread will help. It seems you're not alone with this problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276642 HTH, Bill Gerry Visel wrote: > Since I upgraded to Edgy, my computer will not turn off when I "shut > it down." It goes to the Kubuntu desplash screen, walks across its > progress bar, flashes a black screen, and then returns to the splash > screen and sits. No drive activity thereafter. I have to hold the > power switch down for five seconds to shut it down. > > Dapper behaved properly and shut off the box after the desplash > screen progress bar got to the end. > > Is there something I can do to get this behavior back? > > Thanks, > Gerry From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 01:15:36 2006 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:15:36 +0800 Subject: So, why no Ruby Gems yet? In-Reply-To: <76800d9c0612010858m556dbe58ub6b0b33e28b15c9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1164955167.15025.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1164962299.15025.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <76800d9c0612010858m556dbe58ub6b0b33e28b15c9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165022136.15025.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-01-12 at 10:58 -0600, Gerry Visel wrote: > What do Ruby do? Ruby is a programming language (http://www.ruby-lang.org). It's an interpreted "scripting" language in the same vein as Python or Perl but, in my experience, far more of a delight to program in than either of these (although, to be fair, Python would come a very close second in my books). It also has the best RAD web application development platform I've seen (http://www.rubyonrails.org) which is the reason I switched over to it. -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "I have never seen the poor people being so familiar with their heads of state as they were with [Michele Duvalier]. It was a beautiful lesson for me. I've learned something from it." --Mother Theresa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Dec 2 02:13:02 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:13:02 -0500 Subject: remove all X libs and apps? Message-ID: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> Hi, I'm converting an old laptop from an outdated debian-etch over to ubuntu-feisty -- I want to use the 2.6.19 kernel. It's likely to be ugly, but I remember that it was a bit difficult to get the installer to work on this machine, so my plan is to remove all x-based apps and unnecessary libs and then do a crossgrade. I was just wondering whether there's some lib files I can remove to ensure that all x-based packages are also removed. any suggestions? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sat Dec 2 02:49:01 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:49:01 -0500 Subject: remove all X libs and apps? In-Reply-To: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> References: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4570E99D.4060205@cogeco.ca> Matt Price wrote: > Hi, > > I'm converting an old laptop from an outdated debian-etch over to > ubuntu-feisty -- I want to use the 2.6.19 kernel. It's likely to be > ugly, but I remember that it was a bit difficult to get the installer to > work on this machine, so my plan is to remove all x-based apps and > unnecessary libs and then do a crossgrade. I was just wondering whether > there's some lib files I can remove to ensure that all x-based packages > are also removed. any suggestions? I would think that if you removed all packages with "xorg" in the name would do it. In particular I have the packages xorg, xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core. There are more but I think those 3 would do it. Of course I've never tried it so maybe you should check to make sure apt got everything. There's so many packages I don't imagine it would be a lot of fun though. :) good luck, Bill From ubantu001 at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 03:54:26 2006 From: ubantu001 at gmail.com (Paul Thompson) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:54:26 +1300 Subject: video settings on install Message-ID: <10681b470612011954j726a1266je88c7b81fe75a02e@mail.gmail.com> Hi, is there anyway that I can control the video (xorg) configuration during the install. Both Dapper and Edgy install ok but the video settings are wrong and so the machine is unusable. X starts but the screen just goes mad. Regards, Paul From constantine at evanslabs.org Sat Dec 2 04:00:50 2006 From: constantine at evanslabs.org (Constantine Evans) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:00:50 -0800 Subject: remove all X libs and apps? In-Reply-To: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> References: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matt Price wrote: > Hi, > > I'm converting an old laptop from an outdated debian-etch over to > ubuntu-feisty -- I want to use the 2.6.19 kernel. It's likely to be > ugly, but I remember that it was a bit difficult to get the installer to > work on this machine, so my plan is to remove all x-based apps and > unnecessary libs and then do a crossgrade. I was just wondering whether > there's some lib files I can remove to ensure that all x-based packages > are also removed. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > matt Try removing x11-common. That said, you may also want to consider the debootstrap method of installation. If you can get any sort of live removable Linux system running - perhaps a floppy-based distribution, like tomsrbt - then you should be able to download debootstrap onto the hard drive and install Ubuntu without using the installer. The Debian installation manual has a reasonably good guide to the process, and the instructions apply to Ubuntu as well, for the most part. Yours sincerely, Constantine Evans -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFcPpyaejd/sU2TVARAiEhAJ0V24oGxQBVni0Z8vHa0XExru/eUwCcC6vq 8YL/jDHXmkRSXYLORhhc5MU= =WLUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Sat Dec 2 04:21:04 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:04 +0530 Subject: Live CD settings for reuse Message-ID: Dear Friends; I do not have internet connection on my ubuntu installation (Forced in that situation). I have got one of the Cyber Cufe alowing me to use live CD. While it takes some setting changes (Proxy and mounting some of local drives) Is there a way i can save this settings for reuse of live CD. Thanks in advance. Yagnesh From constantine at evanslabs.org Sat Dec 2 04:25:05 2006 From: constantine at evanslabs.org (Constantine Evans) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:25:05 -0800 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> Message-ID: David B Teague wrote: > If I understand this article correctly: > > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux-NTFS_Status > > there is a new NTFS Kernel driver for kernels 2.5.11 and > later that supports reading and writing to NTFS partitions. > > Does Ubuntu have > this kernel? If not, what plans to include > this kernel are there? You would be better informed by reading tracts less ancient than that, which was written in the far off year of 2005. There are no plans to include this kernel because there are newer, and most likely better, methods of mounting ntfs rw in Linux. ntfs-3g (ntfs-3g.org) is the one that is probably the most used among Ubuntu users. While it is still somewhat experimental, it seems to be much more stable than solutions that have been around for much longer. The specification at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WriteSupportForNTFS gives more detail on the current solutions that are available, and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 seems, from my cursory reading, to be a partially reasonable guide. However, one should always be careful when adding random sources to one's sources.list, lest one suffer the fate of the Treviño list users, or lose one's installation to an unstable package. In particular, if you are running Edgy, you should not need to add any extra sources. Just install ntfs-3g, and use the ntfs-3g to mount the devices. > Is it true that reading from NTFS partitions could cause > corruption of the partition? I remember a time when this used to happen reliably. The write support in the default kernel was horrible in this respect - it was nearly guaranteed to corrupt the partition when writes outside of very narrow guidelines were made, though the partition was always recoverable in my experience. I have not had any problems with ntfs-3g, however, and have used it for a while. You might also be quite interested in Ext2 IFS, located at http://fs-driver.org, that allows Windows to access Ext2 drives. I have used this heavily, actually keeping half of my Windows applications (non-trivial programs as well, such as Photoshop CS2), and all of my documents, on an ext3 partition. While this occasionally necessitates that Ubuntu fsck the drives (as they are being mounted as ext2, which increases the counter), I have never had any corruption caused by the drivers. Yours sincerely, Constantine Evans From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 2 09:00:59 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:00:59 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> > Thanks to all of you for offering your help. I am learning all the time. Sorry to report that, so far, I have not managed to complete the procedure. Having followed all the advice given with regard to my Ubuntu box I started the printer setup procedure on the windows laptop. I got as far as entering the URL and could get no further. The laptop was unable to contact the printer. I wonder whether there is something else I need to do such as configuring CUPS to print from the network. As usual, all advice is very welcome. Norman From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sat Dec 2 09:34:06 2006 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:34:06 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> Norman, norman wrote: > Sorry to report that, so far, I have not managed to complete the > procedure. Having followed all the advice given with regard to my Ubuntu > box I started the printer setup procedure on the windows laptop. I got > as far as entering the URL and could get no further. The laptop was > unable to contact the printer. I wonder whether there is something else > I need to do such as configuring CUPS to print from the network. I've not followed this thread, but you probably need to modify the 'network' section in /etc/cupsd.conf. I have a line in there that says 'Port 631' which causes cupsd to listen on port 631. It may be there already, but commented out. You can be more specific and use the Listen directive to specify which network addresses to listen on. You probably also need to modify the access permission section. Mine looks like this: Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 192.168.8.0/24 Allow From 127.0.0.1 Which allows printing from my home network and the Linux box itself. You will need to restart cupsd to effect the changes. You can also check if cupsd is listening by running 'netstat -l -t' in a terminal window. By default it only listens on the local interface. Good luck. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From jw at raven.inka.de Sat Dec 2 10:25:43 2006 From: jw at raven.inka.de (Josef Wolf) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:25:43 +0100 Subject: Boot fails with remastered ubuntu CD Message-ID: <20061202102543.GD316@raven.wolf.local> Hello! I am trying to create a customized ubuntu install CD based on edgy alternate install CD as described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization Basically, what I am trying to do is: mkdir -p mnt sudo mount -oro,loop /downloads/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso mnt cp -rT mnt custom chmod -R u+w custom sudo umount mnt mkisofs -r -V 'My Install CD' -cache-inodes -J -l \ -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot \ -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o custom.iso custom sudo nice -18 cdrecord blank=fast -eject -v gracetime=2 -tao custom.iso With this, I get a working CD, thus I think I've got the basics right. But when I do the slightest modification to the isolinux.cfg, the generated CD hangs just after presenting the ubuntu splash screen even before the boot menu is presented. For example, even the following modification will cause the CD to hang: --- custom/isolinux/isolinux.cfg.orig 2006-11-30 17:21:51.000000000 +0100 +++ custom/isolinux/isolinux.cfg 2006-11-30 17:22:27.000000000 +0100 @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ GFXBOOT-BACKGROUND 0xB6875A APPEND file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet -- LABEL install - menu label ^Install in text mode + menu label ^Gem install kernel /install/vmlinuz append file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet -- LABEL linux Any ideas what's going wrong here? What does the caret in the "menu label" line mean? The syslinux/isolinux documentation don't even mention that a "menu label" line exists. Does ubuntu use a modified version of isolinux? From phummers at iname.com Sat Dec 2 11:24:20 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 06:24:20 -0500 Subject: video settings on install In-Reply-To: <10681b470612011954j726a1266je88c7b81fe75a02e@mail.gmail.com> References: <10681b470612011954j726a1266je88c7b81fe75a02e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45716264.9080902@iname.com> Paul Thompson wrote: > > is there anyway that I can control the video (xorg) configuration > during the install. Both Dapper and Edgy install ok but the video > settings are wrong and so the machine is unusable. X starts but the > screen just goes mad. That's happened with me on the two machines I've installed Dapper to, and when X sits there looking bad, I shift-alt-F2 to get another text-login session, in which I can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Changing the default resolution to 16 and changing the modes for 16 usually work for me. (No fancy video cards on my boxes -- 16-bit is enough for me. You can experiment with what you know (think) your card is capable of). Then I exit and go back to the X11 session (Alt-F7? I forget. I usually just hunt around. I'm used to FreeBSD, which runs X elsewhere.) When I'm there I restart X with control-alt-backspace. -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From kabads at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 11:38:27 2006 From: kabads at gmail.com (Adam Cripps) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:38:27 +0000 Subject: Lost some sound - edgy In-Reply-To: <4569CCFF.7050504@fungus.sh.nu> References: <4569CCFF.7050504@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: On 11/26/06, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam Cripps wrote: > > I've recently updated my edgy machine and it's lost some sound. One > > application (csmash - a table tennis game) still plays sound, but > > others don't (like reaplayer and unreal tournament). Could it be that > > csmash uses midi? > > Please see > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11 > > Thanks, > - -- > Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com Daniel, I sent the information suggested from your URL to the list but it has a 40k limit so the post is awaiting moderation. However, this problem seems to relate to OSS, but ALSA is fine. Are there any other checks that I can can run for oss? TIA Adam -- http://www.monkeez.org PGP key: 0x7111B833 From slewin at rogers.com Sat Dec 2 12:35:21 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 07:35:21 -0500 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> Constantine Evans wrote: > You might also be quite interested in Ext2 IFS, located at > http://fs-driver.org, that allows Windows to access Ext2 drives. I have tried this before and even thought I am not completely sure, the Ext2 IFS may have corrupted my Kubuntu partition; to the point where a re-install of Kubuntu was needed. It was corrupted on both my desktop and laptop which both where using the driver. Since then, I have stopped using the windows driver and never had the same problem -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Ubuntu 6.10 EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk Sat Dec 2 13:13:03 2006 From: John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk (John) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:13:03 +0000 Subject: HOW do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <4570D45B.8030502@cogeco.ca> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> <4570D45B.8030502@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <45717BDF.20203@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Bill Davidson wrote: > Maybe this forum thread will help. It seems you're not alone with this > problem. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276642 > > HTH, > Bill > > Gerry Visel wrote: > >> Since I upgraded to Edgy, my computer will not turn off when I "shut >> it down." It goes to the Kubuntu desplash screen, walks across its >> progress bar, flashes a black screen, and then returns to the splash >> screen and sits. No drive activity thereafter. I have to hold the >> power switch down for five seconds to shut it down. >> >> Dapper behaved properly and shut off the box after the desplash >> screen progress bar got to the end. >> >> Is there something I can do to get this behavior back? >> >> Thanks, >> Gerry >> I tried the above method but it didn't work. What I did come across was on the Ubutnu Forum (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290713) which suggested adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules. This seems to have worked for me. HTH J From ac7xclnx at newsguy.com Sat Dec 2 11:30:06 2006 From: ac7xclnx at newsguy.com (Keith) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:30:06 -0600 Subject: Live CD settings for reuse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457163BE.20501@newsguy.com> YAGNESH N DESAI wrote: > Dear Friends; > > I do not have internet connection on my > ubuntu installation (Forced in that situation). > > I have got one of the Cyber Cufe alowing me to > use live CD. While it takes some setting changes > (Proxy and mounting some of local drives) > > Is there a way i can save this settings for reuse > of live CD. > > Thanks in advance. > > Yagnesh > > If they have a USB connector you can use a USB device to save it in a file or folder. From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Dec 2 14:34:04 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:34:04 -0500 Subject: Server upgrade Message-ID: <1165070044.5848.212.camel@localhost> I have a LAMP server currently running 5.10, and would like to upgrade this to Dapper. I do not have direct access to the server (SSH/FTP only). Has anyone here done this that would be willing to give me some direction on this? I would expect that I would need to take a snapshot of the entire system, change the apt sources to dapper, and then run apt-get dist-upgrade, but I am concerned about the configuration of Apache, bind, dns, clam, mysql, etc. (Ultimately I would like to have this upgrade also run php5/mysql5) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. From carl at personnelware.com Sat Dec 2 14:37:16 2006 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:37:16 -0600 Subject: remove all X libs and apps? In-Reply-To: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> References: <1165025582.5542.141.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45718F9C.50002@personnelware.com> Matt Price wrote: > Hi, > > I'm converting an old laptop from an outdated debian-etch over to > ubuntu-feisty -- I want to use the 2.6.19 kernel. It's likely to be > ugly, but I remember that it was a bit difficult to get the installer to > work on this machine, so my plan is to remove all x-based apps and > unnecessary libs and then do a crossgrade. I was just wondering whether > there's some lib files I can remove to ensure that all x-based packages > are also removed. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > matt > > > This will load/run the edgy netboot installer kernel. assuming it detects your nic ok, it will just go. wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz sudo apt-get install kexec-tools sudo kexec --load linux --initrd=initrd.gz sudo kexec --exec If you don't have kexec: sudo apt-get install kexec-tools kexec has a -reset-vga switch that you may need to use if you run it inside of X. I just gdm stop (I figured that out before I saw the -vga switch) I may add this trick to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet Carl K From ampster40 at comcast.net Sat Dec 2 14:41:20 2006 From: ampster40 at comcast.net (Steve Jeppesen) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 08:41:20 -0600 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 07:35:21 -0500 Scott wrote: > Constantine Evans wrote: > > You might also be quite interested in Ext2 IFS, located at > > http://fs-driver.org, that allows Windows to access Ext2 drives. > I have tried this before and even thought I am not completely sure, > the Ext2 IFS may have corrupted my Kubuntu partition; to the point > where a re-install of Kubuntu was needed. It was corrupted on both > my desktop and laptop which both where using the driver. Since then, > I have stopped using the windows driver and never had the same problem > I too do not recommend any utility such as this - think about it - how many flipping times does M$ windows crash? Well guess what happened every time it crashed on me, and had my Linux partitions mounted as a "drive letter"... that meant every time I booted into Linux after a fat32 crash, fsck had to run to fix the linux partitions. I was lucky enough not to hose my SUSE 10 install, unlike Scott's luck (ducks and covers - hey I'm still searching out an M$ SUSE 10 replacement!) After a couple of months of that, I finally uninstalled whatever the name was of that program that allowed me to have access to my Linux partitions thru Windows. Also, think about this, the files on your Linux partitions (while Linux is running) are safe and secure behind a secure OS. While Windblows is running - just how good is the MS security on the same files on your Linux partition? I don't know for sure, but I bet they don't have any security protecting them. I was able to write to, and delete files off my Linux partitions thru Windows. Maybe there was some settings to prevent that - I do not know. But just having the crashes and the constant fsck'ing up my partitions ticked me off. to each their own they always say... From slewin at rogers.com Sat Dec 2 15:08:08 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:08:08 -0500 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> Message-ID: <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> Steve Jeppesen wrote: > I too do not recommend any utility such as this - think about it - how > many flipping times does M$ windows crash? True, I believe my problems started after a windoze crash. > While Windblows LOL, I never herd this one before :) I have always suggested to use a Fat32 partition to swap files instead of trying to access the NTFS partition at all. Fat32 support is great in (K)Ubuntu and in Windblows. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Ubuntu 6.10 EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From m0reader at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 15:27:58 2006 From: m0reader at gmail.com (Mike Zeinz) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:27:58 +0000 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? Message-ID: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> Hello, I'm writing to this ML to report a dirty scene that happened to me. I have ubuntu edgy installed in a machine located at room A. Now, someone calls me to go to room B and locked me in that room that have a machine running Windows. I really don't remember if I've locked my machine in room A somehow with xlock or locked my terminal.. For security reasons I decided to download putty and access my machine in room A and shutdown with `sudo shutdown now`. The thing was when I came back to my machine it wasn't off, and worst it had root at bob# terminal opened. What went wrong? Did I shut down the machine incorrectly? Is this a flaw? (...) What else can originate this flaw? How can I solve the problem? Regards, Mike. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat Dec 2 15:37:51 2006 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:37:51 -0500 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? In-Reply-To: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> References: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612021037.51495.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday 02 December 2006 10:27, Mike Zeinz wrote: > What went wrong? > Did I shut down the machine incorrectly? > Is this a flaw? (...) > What else can originate this flaw? > How can I solve the problem? > man shutdown: "Runlevel 0 is used to halt the system, runlevel 6 is used to reboot the system, and runlevel 1 is used to put to system into a state where administrative tasks can be performed; this is the default if neither the -h or -r flag is given to shutdown." The system is working as designed. What you probably wanted was: sudo shutdown -hP now Scott K From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 15:57:54 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:57:54 -0600 Subject: HOW do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <45717BDF.20203@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> <4570D45B.8030502@cogeco.ca> <45717BDF.20203@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <1165075074.8101.27.camel@Wind> Same here. I'll try that. Thanks, Gerry On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 13:13 +0000, John wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: > > Maybe this forum thread will help. It seems you're not alone with this > > problem. > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276642 > > > > HTH, > > Bill > > > > Gerry Visel wrote: > > > >> Since I upgraded to Edgy, my computer will not turn off when I "shut > >> it down." It goes to the Kubuntu desplash screen, walks across its > >> progress bar, flashes a black screen, and then returns to the splash > >> screen and sits. No drive activity thereafter. I have to hold the > >> power switch down for five seconds to shut it down. > >> > >> Dapper behaved properly and shut off the box after the desplash > >> screen progress bar got to the end. > >> > >> Is there something I can do to get this behavior back? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Gerry > >> > I tried the above method but it didn't work. > > What I did come across was on the Ubutnu Forum (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290713) which suggested adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules. This seems to have worked for me. > > HTH > > J > > From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 16:01:56 2006 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:01:56 +0100 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4571A374.5060307@gmail.com> > I have always suggested to use a Fat32 partition to swap files instead > of trying to access the NTFS partition at all. Fat32 support is great in > (K)Ubuntu and in Windblows. I agree with you concerning the support. But I have to work with files larger than 4Go and FAT32 doesn't support that. So I have to make a choice ( cause I am still working with the 2 OS ) : NTFS or EXT3FS What do you suggest me ? From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 16:27:18 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:27:18 -0600 Subject: HOW do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <45717BDF.20203@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965186.4768.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165019733.15642.12.camel@Wind> <4570D45B.8030502@cogeco.ca> <45717BDF.20203@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <1165076839.5769.0.camel@Wind> YESSS!!! That worked! Thanx muchly!!! Gerry On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 13:13 +0000, John wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: > > Maybe this forum thread will help. It seems you're not alone with this > > problem. > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276642 > > > > HTH, > > Bill > > > > Gerry Visel wrote: > > > >> Since I upgraded to Edgy, my computer will not turn off when I "shut > >> it down." It goes to the Kubuntu desplash screen, walks across its > >> progress bar, flashes a black screen, and then returns to the splash > >> screen and sits. No drive activity thereafter. I have to hold the > >> power switch down for five seconds to shut it down. > >> > >> Dapper behaved properly and shut off the box after the desplash > >> screen progress bar got to the end. > >> > >> Is there something I can do to get this behavior back? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Gerry > >> > I tried the above method but it didn't work. > > What I did come across was on the Ubutnu Forum (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290713) which suggested adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules. This seems to have worked for me. > > HTH > > J > > From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Sat Dec 2 16:38:00 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:38:00 -0800 Subject: edgy on my laptop In-Reply-To: <45672A74.5030100@btinternet.com> References: <45672A74.5030100@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4571ABE8.1080301@systemstheory.net> MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I was correct about my laptop being a Compaq Presario as mum read out > the make to me but she couldn't find a model number or couldn't read it. > The processor is an intel Celeron 1.30 ghz. > Should this work with Edgy and also should this be enough to run Edgy > with speech with the version of Orca which comes with Edgy? I'm running Edgy Xubuntu on my 8-9 year old PII laptop. It's got a 450mhz processor with 256mb of PC100 ram. It runs well enough to have a VMWare WinME virtual. I think that your 1.3ghz Celeron should certainly run Xubuntu XFCE desktop satisfactorily. Having never used Orca I can't comment on it. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From tony.kruse at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 16:41:14 2006 From: tony.kruse at gmail.com (Tony K.) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:41:14 -0500 Subject: History lost on restart of terminal app. Message-ID: <52fe24490612020841u5c17eb92i98bedcddb6e3b252@mail.gmail.com> I notice since upgrading to Ubuntu 6.10 that my Terminal application history is cleared when I close and reopen the application. Using earlier version of Ubuntu I was able to continually keep my history with the initial shell opened by terminal. Is there a way to change this configuration to not clear the history? From mcontla at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 16:56:50 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:56:50 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> Tony Arnold said the following on 12/02/2006 01:34 AM: > Norman, > > norman wrote: > > >> Sorry to report that, so far, I have not managed to complete the >> procedure. Having followed all the advice given with regard to my Ubuntu >> box I started the printer setup procedure on the windows laptop. I got >> as far as entering the URL and could get no further. The laptop was >> unable to contact the printer. I wonder whether there is something else >> I need to do such as configuring CUPS to print from the network. >> > > I've not followed this thread, but you probably need to modify the > 'network' section in /etc/cupsd.conf. > > I have a line in there that says 'Port 631' which causes cupsd to listen > on port 631. It may be there already, but commented out. > > You can be more specific and use the Listen directive to specify which > network addresses to listen on. > > You probably also need to modify the access permission section. Mine > looks like this: > > > Order Deny,Allow > Deny From All > Allow From 192.168.8.0/24 > Allow From 127.0.0.1 > > > Which allows printing from my home network and the Linux box itself. > > You will need to restart cupsd to effect the changes. > > You can also check if cupsd is listening by running 'netstat -l -t' in a > terminal window. By default it only listens on the local interface. > > Good luck. > > Regards, > Tony. > If it's a stock Dapper install the following lines should already appear in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow @LOCAL This last Allow line grant access from all interfaces. Port 631 is already open since we added the following lines to /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf: Listen *:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock Those two sets of directives are generally what allows cups to listen and accept jobs from the network (in this case with virtually no restrictions). You certainly can check to make sure cups is listening by using: $ netstat -l -t | grep ipp Which should return something like: tcp 0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN My questions for Norman at this point would be... 1. Have you verified network connectivity between the windows box and the ubuntu box? Can you ping servername or ping ipaddress? 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and browse to: http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web page that shows your printers). 3. What is the name of your printer as recognized by cups? 4. When you make the connection using the windows Add Printer wizard, are you using hostname or ip address? If you are using hostname, are you sure this is resolving correctly? 5. What does /var/log/cups/access_log or /var/log/cups/error_log say? I've helped lots of people help set up windows -> ubuntu printing this way. Unless you have made some other changes to the cups configuration, or have a connectivity issue between the 2 machines, we should be able to get this done. ... and this is still far easier than getting samba configured! :) -- Mitch From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Dec 1 23:04:20 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:04:20 +0100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> (Chanchao's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:59:00 +0700") References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> Chanchao wrote: > sort of "uptime-fetish".. In that case I think the common sense thing > to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze > outside. Outside? That's the wardrobe where the pizza service is in, right? Florian -- From moranar at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 18:43:16 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:43:16 +0100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/2/06, Florian Diesch wrote: > Chanchao wrote: > > to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze > > outside. > > Outside? That's the wardrobe where the pizza service is in, right? Yeah, with the big blue roof and the shiny light that moves. Or, in my case, there's no pizza, but cold and a strange, cold gray vapour. And the roof is light gray. A simple matter of taste, I guess. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 2 19:50:04 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:50:04 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165089004.5008.4.camel@localhost> < big snip > > If it's a stock Dapper install the following lines should already appear > in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: > > > Order allow,deny > Allow localhost > Allow @LOCAL > > > This last Allow line grant access from all interfaces. Port 631 is > already open since we added the following lines to > /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf: > > Listen *:631 > Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock > > Those two sets of directives are generally what allows cups to listen > and accept jobs from the network (in this case with virtually no > restrictions). > > You certainly can check to make sure cups is listening by using: > > $ netstat -l -t | grep ipp > > Which should return something like: > > tcp 0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN > tcp6 0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN I did this and got exactly as shown. > My questions for Norman at this point would be... > > 1. Have you verified network connectivity between the windows box and > the ubuntu box? Can you ping servername or ping ipaddress? > 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and > browse to: > http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web > page that shows your printers). > 3. What is the name of your printer as recognized by cups? > 4. When you make the connection using the windows Add Printer wizard, > are you using hostname or ip address? If you are using hostname, > are you sure this is resolving correctly? > 5. What does /var/log/cups/access_log or /var/log/cups/error_log say? > > I've helped lots of people help set up windows -> ubuntu printing this > way. Unless you have made some other changes to the cups configuration, > or have a connectivity issue between the 2 machines, we should be able > to get this done. > > ... and this is still far easier than getting samba configured! :) > There are certainly a lot of things to follow up and I will do my best to carry them out. Norman From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sat Dec 2 20:47:08 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:47:08 +1100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:43:16 +0100 "Adriano Varoli Piazza" wrote: > On 12/2/06, Florian Diesch wrote: > > Chanchao wrote: > > > to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze > > > outside. $ sudo apt-get install life Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package life From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 2 20:53:54 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:53:54 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> < big snip > > 1. Have you verified network connectivity between the windows box and > the ubuntu box? Can you ping servername or ping ipaddress? Yes - I can ping ipaddress. > 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and > browse to: > http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web > page that shows your printers). The page was not displayed. > 3. What is the name of your printer as recognized by cups? I believe it is Laserjet 1100. > 4. When you make the connection using the windows Add Printer wizard, > are you using hostname or ip address? If you are using hostname, > are you sure this is resolving correctly? I am using ip address. > 5. What does /var/log/cups/access_log or /var/log/cups/error_log say? The access log :- localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:24 +0000] "GET /ppd/LaserJet-1100.ppd HTTP/1.1" 200 27147 - - localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:25 +0000] "GET /ppd/LaserJet-1100.ppd HTTP/1.1" 200 27147 - - localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:25 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 697914 CUPS-Get-PPDs - localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:27 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 1599 CUPS-Get-Devices - localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 401 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:04:09 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:42:20 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 353 CUPS-Get-Classes successful-ok The error log :- E [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized E [02/Dec/2006:14:55:55 +0000] Creating missing directory "/var/run/cups/certs" > > I've helped lots of people help set up windows -> ubuntu printing this > way. Unless you have made some other changes to the cups configuration, > or have a connectivity issue between the 2 machines, we should be able > to get this done. > > ... and this is still far easier than getting samba configured! :) > > -- > Mitch > From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sat Dec 2 21:53:32 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 14:53:32 -0700 Subject: gtk error from firefox ! In-Reply-To: <6db45ed70611301654r26aa33f2p312301fd8307877c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6db45ed70611301654r26aa33f2p312301fd8307877c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: beinan li spake thusly on 11/30/2006 05:54 PM: > Hi , Whenever I run firefox or create a new tab in Firefox (under KDE) > it gives me this in the ~/.xsession-errors: > > > (Gecko:5817): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion > `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample: > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (Gecko:5817): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > Those error messages have been around for ages. I've seen them in other distributions as well. From everything I've read you can safely ignore them, which is what I do. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From phummers at iname.com Sat Dec 2 22:16:06 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:16:06 -0500 Subject: gtk error from firefox ! In-Reply-To: References: <6db45ed70611301654r26aa33f2p312301fd8307877c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4571FB26.8000907@iname.com> Scott wrote: > beinan li spake thusly on 11/30/2006 05:54 PM: >> Hi , Whenever I run firefox or create a new tab in Firefox (under KDE) >> it gives me this in the ~/.xsession-errors: >> >> (Gecko:5817): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion >> `gdk_window_is_viewable (src)' failed >> >> (Gecko:5817): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: >> assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > > > > Those error messages have been around for ages. I've seen them in other > distributions as well. From everything I've read you can safely ignore > them, which is what I do. Good Lord! I've got 'em, too. Also it looks like Zippy the Pinhead is inhabiting my box! Got a whole string of "Yow"s (1 and 2), but no "Are we having fun yet?" -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Dec 2 23:12:32 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:12:32 -0500 Subject: wifi-radar / wireless pls Message-ID: <45720860.9060003@tampabay.rr.com> well, I do have a wireless connection working, using dhcp, and NO wep Network setting for wireless card: essid: linksys dhcp --- wifi-radar see the connection, and connect automatic.. good. plus it see a near by connection as well. ( not mine ) ------------------------- NOW the problem when I turn on the wep in the linksys router, using 128bit encryption (lets say password: blueberry ) there are generated key codes key one: 123d3d3d698s87d7d555.....(etc) I have tried both ways, password and key one code to access the network, via wifi-radar. I try putting the password into the Network Setting (xubuntu), nope, so no matter which way I go, the connection via wifi-radar can't pull a ip address, with wep security turn on. -------------- There no doc on what to put what where ??? :-( So, anyone that can help to connect the two, networking setting and wifi-radar using wep.... please do. :-) Major Thanks- Rich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcontla at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 23:18:39 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:18:39 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> norman said the following on 12/02/2006 12:53 PM: > < big snip > > > >> 1. Have you verified network connectivity between the windows box and >> the ubuntu box? Can you ping servername or ping ipaddress? >> > > Yes - I can ping ipaddress. > > >> 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and >> browse to: >> http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web >> page that shows your printers). >> > > The page was not displayed. > > >> 3. What is the name of your printer as recognized by cups? >> > > I believe it is Laserjet 1100. > > >> 4. When you make the connection using the windows Add Printer wizard, >> are you using hostname or ip address? If you are using hostname, >> are you sure this is resolving correctly? >> > > I am using ip address. > > >> 5. What does /var/log/cups/access_log or /var/log/cups/error_log say? >> > > The access log :- > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:24 +0000] "GET /ppd/LaserJet-1100.ppd > HTTP/1.1" 200 27147 - - > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:25 +0000] "GET /ppd/LaserJet-1100.ppd > HTTP/1.1" 200 27147 - - > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:25 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 697914 > CUPS-Get-PPDs - > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:02:27 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 1599 > CUPS-Get-Devices - > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 401 > 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok > localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" > 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok > localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" > 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok > localhost - root [02/Dec/2006:09:04:09 +0000] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" > 200 166 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok > localhost - - [02/Dec/2006:09:42:20 +0000] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 353 > CUPS-Get-Classes successful-ok > > The error log :- > > E [02/Dec/2006:09:03:32 +0000] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized > E [02/Dec/2006:14:55:55 +0000] Creating missing directory > "/var/run/cups/certs" > > > >> I've helped lots of people help set up windows -> ubuntu printing this >> way. Unless you have made some other changes to the cups configuration, >> or have a connectivity issue between the 2 machines, we should be able >> to get this done. >> >> ... and this is still far easier than getting samba configured! :) >> >> -- >> Mitch >> >> > > > Are you running a firewall on your ubuntu box that would be blocking the port? What happens if you open your browser on the ubuntu box and browse to: http://localhost:631/printers Is your printer listed when you run: $ lpstat -a -- Mitch From scotjohnson at mac.com Sat Dec 2 23:25:48 2006 From: scotjohnson at mac.com (Scot Johnson) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:25:48 -0600 Subject: I need help or advice for 3 issues concerning Gateway MX675 laptop In-Reply-To: <1165013535.5504.7.camel@localhost> (Gabriel Dragffy's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:52:15 +0000") References: <456E350B.3040104@comcast.net> <1165013535.5504.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <87psb1j2wz.fsf@mac.com> Gabriel Dragffy writes: >> My second problem is sound, my laptop comes with >> the Intel ICH5 driver. I have tried various settings with Alsa, no luck >> in getting any sound out of the laptop. I have a Gateway laptop w/ an Intel sound card. Muting the "external" sound in alsamixer worked for me. Good luck! -- Scot From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sat Dec 2 23:46:12 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:46:12 -0500 Subject: I need help or advice for 3 issues concerning Gateway MX675 laptop In-Reply-To: <87psb1j2wz.fsf@mac.com> References: <456E350B.3040104@comcast.net> <1165013535.5504.7.camel@localhost> <87psb1j2wz.fsf@mac.com> Message-ID: <45721044.1000500@cogeco.ca> Scot Johnson wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy writes: >>> My second problem is sound, my laptop comes with >>> the Intel ICH5 driver. I have tried various settings with Alsa, no luck >>> in getting any sound out of the laptop. > I have a Gateway laptop w/ an Intel sound card. Muting the "external" > sound in alsamixer worked for me. Good luck! That's a good point. You have to run alsamixer in order to turn on sound because everything is muted by default. Bill From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 3 01:18:01 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:18:01 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu Stock Firefox is sllloooww Message-ID: <1165108681.6105.3.camel@worldventures> Just installed FF2 on my Dapper system, following some instructions in the Wiki. It even says in there that the Mozilla build of FF is significantly faster. I didn't really believe it and thought I wouldn't notice anything anyway. But it really is faster - it seems to scrape the hard drive much less when loading it up and pages are displayed instantly. I do remember this being covered quite some time back, but at the time I don't remember any over-whelming reason given. Why is the ubuntu build so much slower? I can't understand it. From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 3 01:24:07 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:24:07 +0000 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? In-Reply-To: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> References: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165109047.6105.5.camel@worldventures> On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 15:27 +0000, Mike Zeinz wrote: > Hello, > I'm writing to this ML to report a dirty scene that happened > to me. > I have ubuntu edgy installed in a machine located at room A. > Now, someone calls me to go to room B and locked me in that room > that have a machine running Windows. I really don't remember > if I've > locked my machine in room A somehow with xlock or locked my > terminal.. > For security reasons I decided to download putty and access my > machine > in room A and shutdown with `sudo shutdown now`. > The thing was when I came back to my machine it wasn't off, > and worst > it had root at bob# terminal opened. > > What went wrong? > Did I shut down the machine incorrectly? > Is this a flaw? (...) > What else can originate this flaw? > How can I solve the problem? > > Regards, > Mike. > I'm not sure exactly, but I always successfully shut down using: sudo shutdown -hP now From john at jolet.net Sun Dec 3 01:28:15 2006 From: john at jolet.net (John Jolet) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:28:15 -0600 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? In-Reply-To: <1165109047.6105.5.camel@worldventures> References: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> <1165109047.6105.5.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1E7538E2-B329-47EA-9108-7F10887F23BA@jolet.net> On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 15:27 +0000, Mike Zeinz wrote: >> Hello, >> I'm writing to this ML to report a dirty scene that >> happened >> to me. >> I have ubuntu edgy installed in a machine located at >> room A. >> Now, someone calls me to go to room B and locked me in >> that room >> that have a machine running Windows. I really don't >> remember >> if I've >> locked my machine in room A somehow with xlock or locked my >> terminal.. >> For security reasons I decided to download putty and >> access my >> machine >> in room A and shutdown with `sudo shutdown now`. >> The thing was when I came back to my machine it wasn't off, >> and worst >> it had root at bob# terminal opened. >> >> What went wrong? >> Did I shut down the machine incorrectly? >> Is this a flaw? (...) >> What else can originate this flaw? >> How can I solve the problem? >> >> Regards, >> Mike. >> > > I'm not sure exactly, but I always successfully shut down using: > sudo shutdown -hP now > I've had problems before with shutdown via sudo, not just on ubuntu. also on gentoo and redhat. sudo su - first, then poweroff. From frederific at googlemail.com Sun Dec 3 01:32:12 2006 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 01:32:12 +0000 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? In-Reply-To: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> References: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02/12/06, Mike Zeinz wrote: > What went wrong? > Did I shut down the machine incorrectly? > Is this a flaw? (...) > What else can originate this flaw? > How can I solve the problem? Hi Mike, I believe that this is standard behaviour on almost all unix/linux machines. The default behaviour of shutdown is to take the machine into runlevel 1, single user "System Maintainance" mode. If you want the box to power down, you need to add the -h flag to shutdown. To reboot, add -r. HTH Freddie :) From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Sun Dec 3 02:15:49 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:15:49 -0500 Subject: Remote shutdown vulnerability ? In-Reply-To: <1E7538E2-B329-47EA-9108-7F10887F23BA@jolet.net> References: <45719B7E.8010909@gmail.com> <1165109047.6105.5.camel@worldventures> <1E7538E2-B329-47EA-9108-7F10887F23BA@jolet.net> Message-ID: <20061203021549.GB25121@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Actually, sudo poweroff seems to work fine on both my machines running Ubuntu Edgy. Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFcjNVG9IpekrhBfIRAh9QAJ4jcBj39pTDMTUmy1Zy8qZWB/24ugCeJRUn +361O2/WqZpOoVB3CVtpVEs= =cc6A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From garryknight at gmx.net Sun Dec 3 01:58:44 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:58:44 +0000 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Peter Garrett wrote: > $ sudo apt-get install life > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package life You need to add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatspace everything-life universe -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From rajiv1 at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 03:15:12 2006 From: rajiv1 at gmail.com (Rajiv Vyas) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 22:15:12 -0500 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD Message-ID: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> Any idea which are some of the places to quickly download Edgy? From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sun Dec 3 04:00:38 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:00:38 -0700 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD In-Reply-To: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Rajiv Vyas spake thusly on 12/02/2006 08:15 PM: > Any idea which are some of the places to quickly download Edgy? > http://tinyurl.com/2c9np -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From haniganwork at earthlik.net Sun Dec 3 04:27:56 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:27:56 -0600 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165120077.20725.4.camel@star> I've been following this thread with interest. i have my printers working with samba. It works great when printing from linux to windows printers, but is rather quirkery when printing from windows to Linux. I have played with with the http way of printing from windows but never could get it to work. > 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and > browse to: > http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web > page that shows your printers). When I do this from windows XP I can see all the printers. I suspect I do not have the syntax right when I enter it in the print wizzard. Could someone give me a real world example of what they enter. Thanks Linda From mike_po at streamyx.com Sun Dec 3 03:12:25 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:12:25 +0800 Subject: [ubuntu-users] In-Reply-To: <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] for all emails in the mailing list? Florian Diesch wrote: > Chanchao wrote: > > >> sort of "uptime-fetish".. In that case I think the common sense thing >> to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze >> outside. > > Outside? That's the wardrobe where the pizza service is in, right? > > > Florian From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Dec 3 05:15:46 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:15:46 +1100 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD In-Reply-To: References: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203161546.d2265428.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:00:38 -0700 Scott wrote: > Rajiv Vyas spake thusly on 12/02/2006 08:15 PM: > > Any idea which are some of the places to quickly download Edgy? > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2c9np > > -- > Scott http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct From mike_po at streamyx.com Sun Dec 3 05:13:40 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 13:13:40 +0800 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] in the subject line for all emails in the mailing list? > > > > > Florian Diesch wrote: >> Chanchao wrote: >> >> >>> sort of "uptime-fetish".. In that case I think the common sense thing >>> to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze >>> outside. >> Outside? That's the wardrobe where the pizza service is in, right? >> >> >> Florian > From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Dec 3 05:28:24 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:28:24 +1100 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD In-Reply-To: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203162824.b83b057c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 22:15:12 -0500 "Rajiv Vyas" wrote: > Any idea which are some of the places to quickly download Edgy? http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/dvd/ As far as I know, the DVD is only downloadable using bittorrent, but I may be wrong... The other URL will point you to a number of mirrors for Cd downloads. Hope this helps. Peter From gcvisel at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 05:39:51 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:39:51 -0600 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1165124391.5769.34.camel@Wind> Michael, If you're trying to filter, just filter on Ubuntu in the sender's address. Works for me! Gerry On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 13:13 +0800, michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] in the subject line for all > emails in the > mailing list? > > > > > > > > > > Florian Diesch wrote: > >> Chanchao wrote: > >> > >> > >>> sort of "uptime-fetish".. In that case I think the common sense thing > >>> to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze > >>> outside. > >> Outside? That's the wardrobe where the pizza service is in, right? > >> > >> > >> Florian > > > From tech_dev at wildintellect.com Sun Dec 3 06:23:58 2006 From: tech_dev at wildintellect.com (Alex Mandel) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:23:58 -0800 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <4571A374.5060307@gmail.com> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> <4571A374.5060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> I have always suggested to use a Fat32 partition to swap files instead >> of trying to access the NTFS partition at all. Fat32 support is great in >> (K)Ubuntu and in Windblows. > > I agree with you concerning the support. But I have to work with files > larger than 4Go and FAT32 doesn't support that. So I have to make a > choice ( cause I am still working with the 2 OS ) : NTFS or EXT3FS > > What do you suggest me ? > Use the EXT driver for windows, the key thing is partition. Don't mount your Linux OS partition just mount a data partition. That should keep you from hosing anything. So like this, 3 partitions: Win(NTFS)/Linux(EXT3)/Data(EXT3) Alex From tech_dev at wildintellect.com Sun Dec 3 06:25:27 2006 From: tech_dev at wildintellect.com (Alex Mandel) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:25:27 -0800 Subject: reinstall gnome without messing up other thing? In-Reply-To: <456FCD9B.4010001@gmail.com> References: <456FCD9B.4010001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Beinan Li wrote: > My OS: Dapper x86 on AMD64 (with both gnome and kde installed) > > Problem: > gnome was broken for unknown reason, saw flickering > panel after seeing start-up splash and hearing loggin music. > > I turned off all startup program by editing ~/.config/Autostart/ > and the problem is still there. > > Looks like the easiest way is to reinstall all GTK stuff. > Any idea on how I do to have gnome back without messing up > other things such as kde? > > Thanks! > > Beinan > > Try to reinstall Ubuntu-Desktop package, I think its a metapackage for the gnome based install. Alex From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Sun Dec 3 07:25:50 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:25:50 -0500 Subject: Lost some sound - edgy In-Reply-To: References: <4569CCFF.7050504@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <45727BFE.2000400@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adam Cripps wrote: >> > I've recently updated my edgy machine and it's lost some sound. One >> > application (csmash - a table tennis game) still plays sound, but >> > others don't (like reaplayer and unreal tournament). Could it be that >> > csmash uses midi? [...] > This problem is intermittent. I've booted this machine and sounds > works fine, and I've just booted again and it is back to the original > problem. [...] > tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat: > 0: Realtek ALC655 rev 0 > 1: TriTech TR28602 Your problem description lacks information regarding which sound card(s) you're attempting to use for the various applications. If you've not added any module names manually to /etc/modules _and_ haven't added any module parameters to /etc/modprobe.d/*, then your symptoms are likely to be caused by different card orders. Above, your onboard Intel is the default sound device for all OSS-emulated applications (since /dev/dsp is used for card 0). Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFcnv+e9GwFciKvaMRAoEfAJ9Sb84EhJsjixXLp8jTmWl6lJz1mwCfWZNj 5zJDtdvVEbwd0sGvcWnz+aQ= =ihCo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Sun Dec 3 07:27:44 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 02:27:44 -0500 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD In-Reply-To: <20061203162824.b83b057c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> <20061203162824.b83b057c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20061203072744.GA9572@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 According to Peter Garrett: # http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu # http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/dvd/ # # As far as I know, the DVD is only downloadable using bittorrent, but I may # be wrong... The other URL will point you to a number of mirrors for Cd # downloads. # # Hope this helps. Thanks very much for this. I was looking for the DVD before I ever installed Ubuntu but couldn't find it. I didn't realize it was only available via bittorrent and the mirrors I tried only had CD's. Thanks, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFcnxwG9IpekrhBfIRAj3GAKCDB8yKdXzCqkkyYcTt4mzDaPrQSgCgt+zb R9miXnQM18iJP3PvmO2c898= =V6Ip -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sun Dec 3 08:41:14 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:41:14 -0700 Subject: Downloading Edgy DVD In-Reply-To: <20061203072744.GA9572@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <9d8a555a0612021915i6ac77e1ete6a00df9bc2728fd@mail.gmail.com> <20061203162824.b83b057c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <20061203072744.GA9572@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: Lorenzo Taylor spake thusly on 12/03/2006 12:27 AM: > According to Peter Garrett: > # http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu > # http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/dvd/ > # > # As far as I know, the DVD is only downloadable using bittorrent, but I may > # be wrong... The other URL will point you to a number of mirrors for Cd > # downloads. > # > # Hope this helps. > > Thanks very much for this. I was looking for the DVD before I ever > installed Ubuntu but couldn't find it. I didn't realize it was only > available via bittorrent and the mirrors I tried only had CD's. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From norman at littletank.org Sun Dec 3 09:07:22 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 09:07:22 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> < big snip > > Are you running a firewall on your ubuntu box that would be blocking the > port. There is no port involved as far as I understand. > What happens if you open your browser on the ubuntu box and browse to: > http://localhost:631/printers I have the equivalent of 3 printers which are shown. The only thing I noticed is that the printer designated as default is not correct. > > Is your printer listed when you run: > > $ lpstat -a Yes, all three. Norman From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Dec 3 11:01:44 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 08:01:44 -0300 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <1165124391.5769.34.camel@Wind> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> <1165124391.5769.34.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 December 2006 02:39, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Gerry Visel who wrote: >    If you're trying to filter, just filter on Ubuntu in the sender's > address.  Works for me! Does not help keeping the various threads from ubuntu-users, kubuntu-user, mandriva-users etc separate in the linuxmail mailbox... Cheers, Ron. -- Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Dec 3 11:17:21 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:17:21 +0100 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1165144641.5712.51.camel@chronic> First, please don't "hijack" threads by replying to another message and changing the subject line to something unrelated. It screws up threading for those who use a threaded email reader. It also will reduce the number of people who read your message. To start a new thread, simply send an email to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 13:13 +0800, michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] in the subject line for > all emails in the mailing list? I guess you are trying to filter. Many email readers have default ways to filter for the mailing list. E.g., in Evolution simply rightclick a list message and choose "Create Rule from Message" -> "Filter on Mailing List". If your email client cannot do this, you can filter for the email header called "X-BeenThere". For the ubuntu-users list this is set to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com. The header is not mandatory for mailing lists, but many (most?) set it, certainly all Ubuntu lists do. From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Dec 3 11:19:29 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:19:29 +0100 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> <1165124391.5769.34.camel@Wind> <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1165144769.5712.54.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 08:01 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > Does not help keeping the various threads from ubuntu-users, > kubuntu-user, > mandriva-users etc separate in the linuxmail mailbox... Maybe i misunderstand you, but why don't you filter them into individual folders? I have it like this Mailing Lists Debian weekly-news users ... Gnome Ekiga ... Ubuntu devel security sounder users ... From klaus.grossgut at utanet.at Sun Dec 3 11:27:30 2006 From: klaus.grossgut at utanet.at (Klaus Grossgut) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:27:30 +0000 Subject: Uninstalling broken packages - please help Message-ID: <1165145250.5095.35.camel@localhost> Hi, when I upgraded form Dapper to Edgy the installation was not completed correctly. The result are two broken files in Synaptic Package Manager "courier-authdaemon" (version 0.47-13 Dapper) and "courier-authlib-userdb" (version 0.53.2-3 Edgy). I tried to repair or remove these packages with Synaptic Package Manager and APT but it didn't work. The message was: "dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal." How can I reinstall "courier-authdaemon" version 0.47-13 ? Synaptic Package Manager only offers an upgrade to version 0.53.2-3 which does not work. There are also dependency problems which prevent configuration of "courier-authlib-userdb". This package depends on "courier-authlib"(>=0.58) which I cannot install however. Klaus From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Dec 3 11:38:53 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 08:38:53 -0300 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <1165144769.5712.54.camel@chronic> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1165144769.5712.54.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <200612030838.53686.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 December 2006 08:19, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Mario Vukelic who wrote: > Maybe i misunderstand you, but why don't you filter them into individual > folders? Because I already have a list of folders that takes up the whole heigth of my screen, ane I like to see all of them at a glance, without having to scroll up or down. Cheers, Ron. -- Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. -- Laurence J. Peter -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Dec 3 11:49:33 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:49:33 +0100 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <200612030838.53686.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1165144769.5712.54.camel@chronic> <200612030838.53686.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1165146573.5712.62.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 08:38 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > Because I already have a list of folders that takes up the whole heigth of my > screen, ane I like to see all of them at a glance, without having to scroll > up or down. Got it. Just a thought: you could filter on list, assign different colors to the subjects, then move into a common folder. From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Dec 3 11:55:50 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 08:55:50 -0300 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <1165146573.5712.62.camel@chronic> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <200612030838.53686.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1165146573.5712.62.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <200612030855.50576.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 December 2006 08:49, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Mario Vukelic who wrote: > Just a thought: you could filter on list, assign different > colors to the subjects, then move into a common folder. Does Kmail do that ? Cheers, Ron. -- Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. -- Laurence J. Peter -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Sun Dec 3 12:08:35 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 13:08:35 +0100 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <200612030855.50576.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <200612030838.53686.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1165146573.5712.62.camel@chronic> <200612030855.50576.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1165147715.5712.70.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 08:55 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > Does Kmail do that ? I don't know since I'm not a KDE user, but Evolution does. Since KDE in general has more user-adjustable features than Gnome, I would think kmail has some way From nevankas at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 12:12:38 2006 From: nevankas at gmail.com (Nevanka Mihindukulasuriya) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 18:12:38 +0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <936645020612030412v1b833fceg3ba6c049a647cdab@mail.gmail.com> please unsubscribe me fro the mailing lists. Nevanka -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nevankas at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 12:13:51 2006 From: nevankas at gmail.com (Nevanka Mihindukulasuriya) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 18:13:51 +0600 Subject: unsubscribe from the ubuntu mailing list. Message-ID: <936645020612030413j2e5eecdpc444cdccf4587afe@mail.gmail.com> please unsubscribe me from the mailing lists. Nevanka -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Sun Dec 3 12:17:31 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:17:31 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <936645020612030412v1b833fceg3ba6c049a647cdab@mail.gmail.com> References: <936645020612030412v1b833fceg3ba6c049a647cdab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203121731.GA31442@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You can send a message to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com with unsubscribe in the subject to unsubscribe from this list. For any other Ubuntu lists you happen to be on, the process is similar. The is the password either you chose or was generated for you when you subscribed to the list. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFcsBbG9IpekrhBfIRArWLAJ9eYEMuP6dE7+7AkdhZOOaNJLtPPwCfWCrP U9Bp47XRwpAIuB6o20VYrpQ= =5BW7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Dec 3 12:24:00 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 09:24:00 -0300 Subject: unsubscribe from the ubuntu mailing list. In-Reply-To: <936645020612030413j2e5eecdpc444cdccf4587afe@mail.gmail.com> References: <936645020612030413j2e5eecdpc444cdccf4587afe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612030924.00846.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 December 2006 09:13, my mailbox was graced by a missive from "Nevanka Mihindukulasuriya" who wrote: > please unsubscribe me from the mailing lists. > Nevanka > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users What about trying the instructions given in the message iyself ? Failing this, you can find the following in the message headers: List-Unsubscribe: ,          If this fails too, follow the instructions given below. Cheers, Ron. -- Sed nescio quo modo nihil tam absurde dici potest quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum. -- Marcus Tullius Cicero -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large "X" outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self-adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator. If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy" call button on the right of the evaporator. He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a "Shower seal" button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation you wish to change the settings, place the "manual off" override switch in the "OFF" position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sun Dec 3 14:39:35 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 09:39:35 -0500 Subject: [ubuntu-users] In-Reply-To: <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <4572E1A7.9010906@cogeco.ca> michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] for all emails in the > mailing list? Why not just filter on the List-Id header? Bill From jdangler at atlantic.net Sun Dec 3 14:50:58 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 09:50:58 -0500 Subject: Upgrade to Dapper on production server Message-ID: <1165157458.5848.264.camel@localhost> I don't know if this message went through to the group, so at the risk of dupes, I'll re-post. I have a LAMP server currently running 5.10, and would like to upgrade this to Dapper. I do not have direct access to the server (SSH/FTP only). Has anyone here done this that would be willing to give me some direction on this? I would expect that I would need to take a snapshot of the entire system, change the apt sources to dapper, and then run apt-get dist-upgrade, but I am concerned about the configuration of Apache, bind, dns, clam, mysql, etc. changing when the upgrades are complete. (Ultimately I would like to have this upgrade also run php5/mysql5) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 15:15:54 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:15:54 +0100 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> <4571A374.5060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612030715n4aeb341bwc5ca012046b5ade0@mail.gmail.com> I think the Setup of a seperate data partition would be close to ideal, but I still wouldn't recommend it. The fs-driver corrupted my linux partition once by a mere install (without being able to tell it yet what and what not to mound). I would go for the ntfs-3g support since it's reliable since this summer. The problem with the fs-driver is also that it doesn't support journaling (so basically it's an ext2 driver which is compatible with ext3). I think that you would have less chance of data corruption with ntfs-3g than with fs-driver. (assuming that the data partition would also contain valuable information) Rutger On 12/3/06, Alex Mandel wrote: > > Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > >> I have always suggested to use a Fat32 partition to swap files instead > >> of trying to access the NTFS partition at all. Fat32 support is great > in > >> (K)Ubuntu and in Windblows. > > > > I agree with you concerning the support. But I have to work with files > > larger than 4Go and FAT32 doesn't support that. So I have to make a > > choice ( cause I am still working with the 2 OS ) : NTFS or EXT3FS > > > > What do you suggest me ? > > > Use the EXT driver for windows, the key thing is partition. Don't mount > your Linux OS partition just mount a data partition. That should keep > you from hosing anything. > So like this, 3 partitions: > Win(NTFS)/Linux(EXT3)/Data(EXT3) > > Alex > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike_po at streamyx.com Sun Dec 3 15:29:09 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:29:09 +0800 Subject: [ubuntu-users] In-Reply-To: <4572E1A7.9010906@cogeco.ca> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <4572E1A7.9010906@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <4572ED45.9070303@streamyx.com> How to filter the List-id? What is the List-id? Bill Davidson wrote: > michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: >> Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] for all emails in the >> mailing list? > > Why not just filter on the List-Id header? > > Bill > From mike_po at streamyx.com Sun Dec 3 15:33:16 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:33:16 +0800 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <1165144641.5712.51.camel@chronic> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> <1165144641.5712.51.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <4572EE3C.9060805@streamyx.com> What is "hijack"? How does it screw up threading? I'm using Thunderbird. There is no rightclick to filter. I cant find "x-beenthere". Mario Vukelic wrote: > First, please don't "hijack" threads by replying to another message and > changing the subject line to something unrelated. It screws up threading > for those who use a threaded email reader. It also will reduce the > number of people who read your message. To start a new thread, simply > send an email to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 13:13 +0800, michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: >> Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] in the subject line for >> all emails in the mailing list? > > I guess you are trying to filter. Many email readers have default ways > to filter for the mailing list. E.g., in Evolution simply rightclick a > list message and choose "Create Rule from Message" -> "Filter on Mailing > List". If your email client cannot do this, you can filter for the email > header called "X-BeenThere". For the ubuntu-users list this is set to > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com. The header is not mandatory for mailing > lists, but many (most?) set it, certainly all Ubuntu lists do. > > From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 15:42:32 2006 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 16:42:32 +0100 Subject: Linux read/write access to NTFS partition In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612030715n4aeb341bwc5ca012046b5ade0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4570CBF2.7050700@verizon.net> <45717309.2040205@rogers.com> <20061202084120.0d952a4c@steve.homeip.net> <457196D8.4090300@rogers.com> <4571A374.5060307@gmail.com> <78d24f7a0612030715n4aeb341bwc5ca012046b5ade0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4572F068.80407@gmail.com> well, well That's the problem I had :) . there is disadvantages with the 2 FS when using Windows and Linux. EXT2FS for windows is slow and sometimes insecure. NTFS-3G is very slow for big sized files (even after the defragmentation) . Plus I use VMware that on each OS can't support the other file system. So actually I have NTFS on the data partition and am accommodating :( . From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sun Dec 3 15:47:56 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:47:56 -0500 Subject: [ubuntu-users] In-Reply-To: <4572ED45.9070303@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <4572E1A7.9010906@cogeco.ca> <4572ED45.9070303@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <4572F1AC.3030702@cogeco.ca> michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > How to filter the List-id? > What is the List-id? List-Id a mail header that the ubuntu lists add to messages. You have to set your mailer to view all headers to see it. In thunderbird, you open the View menu, go down to headers and select All. Other mailers are probably different. Some might an option in the right click menu of a message. For this list, I have it set to filter if the List-Id "contains" ubuntu-users.lists.ubuntu.com HTH, Bill From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sun Dec 3 16:28:59 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:28:59 -0500 Subject: [ubuntu-users] subject line In-Reply-To: <4572EE3C.9060805@streamyx.com> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> <1165144641.5712.51.camel@chronic> <4572EE3C.9060805@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <4572FB4B.5050905@cogeco.ca> michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > What is "hijack"? > How does it screw up threading? To hijack a thread is starting a new thread by replying to an existing. When you do this, your message will show up as part of the existing thread. Mailers often use headers other than the Subject to assign a message to a thread. Proper netiquette is to start a new thread by creating a brand new message (clicking on the "Write" button in thunderbird. Perhaps "New Message" or "Compose" in other mailers.) > I'm using Thunderbird. > There is no rightclick to filter. Open the "Message" menu and click "Create filter from message". > I cant find "x-beenthere". You need to view all headers to see it. View -> Headers -> All. In order to create the filter, Message -> Create filter from message. Open the dropdown box that says "From" and click "Customize..." to add a new header to the list. Type either List-Id or X-BeenThere and click Add. Now you can filter based on the contents of the new header. HTH, Bill From harley7 at cogeco.ca Sun Dec 3 17:03:47 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:03:47 -0500 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> norman wrote: > < big snip > > >> Are you running a firewall on your ubuntu box that would be blocking the >> port. > > There is no port involved as far as I understand. There is. Port 631 needs to be available on you linux box from your windows box. Bill From ubuntu at tonix.org Sun Dec 3 17:32:41 2006 From: ubuntu at tonix.org (David Hart) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:32:41 +0000 Subject: your mail in ubuntu-users In-Reply-To: <936645020612030412v1b833fceg3ba6c049a647cdab@mail.gmail.com> References: <936645020612030412v1b833fceg3ba6c049a647cdab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203173241.GD15547@mutt.jynn.tonix.org> On Sun 2006-12-03 18:12:38 +0600, Nevanka Mihindukulasuriya wrote: > please unsubscribe me fro the mailing lists. Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users -- David Hart From norman at littletank.org Sun Dec 3 18:04:41 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:04:41 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> > >> Are you running a firewall on your ubuntu box that would be blocking the > >> port. > > > > There is no port involved as far as I understand. > > There is. Port 631 needs to be available on you linux box from your > windows box. > > Excuse my ignorance but I thought the firewall was to protect against unwanted material via the broadband. The connection between the two machines, although wireless, I thought had nothing to do with the broadband and was the same as if the connection to the router was made by cable. Norman From mcontla at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 19:02:44 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:02:44 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165120077.20725.4.camel@star> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165120077.20725.4.camel@star> Message-ID: <45731F54.9000501@gmail.com> Linda Hanigan said the following on 12/02/2006 08:27 PM: > I've been following this thread with interest. i have my printers > working with samba. It works great when printing from linux to windows > printers, but is rather quirkery when printing from windows to Linux. I > have played with with the http way of printing from windows but never > could get it to work. > > > >> 2. What happens when you open a browser on the windows machine and >> browse to: >> http://ipaddressofcupsserver:631/printers (you should see a web >> page that shows your printers). >> > > When I do this from windows XP I can see all the printers. I suspect I > do not have the syntax right when I enter it in the print wizzard. Could > someone give me a real world example of what they enter. > Thanks > Linda > > > When you run the Add Printer wizard in windows, select Network Printer and in the URL field type: http://ubuntu_server:631/printers/printer_name Where ubuntu_server is the hostname or ip address for the machine running cups, and printer_name is the printer name assigned to the printer. -- Mitch From mcontla at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 19:11:34 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:11:34 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45732166.90002@gmail.com> norman said the following on 12/03/2006 10:04 AM: >>>> Are you running a firewall on your ubuntu box that would be blocking the >>>> port. >>>> >>> There is no port involved as far as I understand. >>> >> There is. Port 631 needs to be available on you linux box from your >> windows box. >> >> >> > > Excuse my ignorance but I thought the firewall was to protect against > unwanted material via the broadband. The connection between the two > machines, although wireless, I thought had nothing to do with the > broadband and was the same as if the connection to the router was made > by cable. > > Norman > > > This all depends on where the firewall is. If you are relying on the firewall on your router, and the machines you want to connect to are on the local network side, this isn't an issue. However, if you are running a firewall on your ubuntu machine, then port 631 could very well be blocked, and that would explain why you cant make a connection. Based on your previous posts, it appears port 631 is listening on all interfaces. The question here is what is stopping your windows machine from connecting to port 631. What happens if you open a command prompt on your windows machine and type (where ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address): C:\> telnet ubuntu_server 631 Do you get a "Could not open connection to the host" error? One other thought, are you in fact specifying the port when testing the connection via your browser? In other words, typing the following address with 631 specified in the address in your windows browser (where ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address): http://ubuntu_server:631/printers -- Mitch From mj3clark at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 19:17:13 2006 From: mj3clark at gmail.com (Matthew Clarke) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:17:13 -0500 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: thanks for the troubleshooting on this! however, I'm now showing some missing package dependencies: personal-hygiene karisma (KDE package?) small-talk dance-moves please, I think I'm still missing some sources!! MC On 12/2/06, Garry Knight wrote: > Peter Garrett wrote: > > > $ sudo apt-get install life > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > E: Couldn't find package life > > You need to add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > deb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatspace everything-life universe > > -- > Garry Knight > garryknight at gmx.net > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Matthew Clarke From mj3clark at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 19:21:58 2006 From: mj3clark at gmail.com (Matthew Clarke) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:21:58 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe from the ubuntu mailing list. In-Reply-To: <200612030924.00846.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <936645020612030413j2e5eecdpc444cdccf4587afe@mail.gmail.com> <200612030924.00846.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: ultrasonic log-off mode works for me every time. On 12/3/06, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > On Sunday 03 December 2006 09:13, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from "Nevanka Mihindukulasuriya" who wrote: > > > please unsubscribe me from the mailing lists. > > > Nevanka > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > What about trying the instructions given in the message iyself ? > > Failing this, you can find the following in the message headers: > > List-Unsubscribe: , > > > If this fails too, follow the instructions given below. > > Cheers, > > Ron. > -- > Sed nescio quo modo nihil tam absurde dici potest > quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum. > -- Marcus Tullius Cicero > > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- > > > > First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then > follow these directions. > > The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on > requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, > depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through > the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, > attach connection marked by the large "X" outlet hose. Twist the silver- > coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. > > The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small > switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial > condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron > unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the > blue button. > > The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release > switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually > up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is > self-adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which > simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to > its storage position. > > You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator. If the > red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not > been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy" call button on the right of > the evaporator. He will secure all facilities from his control panel. > > To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the > clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately > below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control > panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a "Shower seal" button. > Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. > On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the > Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. > > The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you > activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. When you are > ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release button. The door will > open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in > their container. > > If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. > When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The knob to the > left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. > For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. > > After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by > switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If during the > unsubscribing operation you wish to change the settings, place the "manual > off" override switch in the "OFF" position. You may now make the change and > repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and > have lunch. Please close the door behind you. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Matthew Clarke From li.beinan at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 19:23:40 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (Beinan Li) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:23:40 -0500 Subject: [solved] gnome panel Message-ID: <4573243C.6010006@gmail.com> Hi, I've been bugging the list recently about my problem of gnome crashing: when logging in the panel flickers, halting the whole starting process. I tried reinstalling gnome and gconf and no luck. It turned out to be the problem of my customized gnome-panel was frustrated by some problematic applets. *After quitting X, and deleting ~/.gconf/apps/panel, it is back to normal. *This is a general way to get your panel working again after it is messed up somehow. This also means that the gnome panel is very unstable, but lucky you can always get the default panel back by doing the above. Beinan From norman at littletank.org Sun Dec 3 19:44:05 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:44:05 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <45732166.90002@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> <45732166.90002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165175045.5011.40.camel@localhost> < snip > > This all depends on where the firewall is. If you are relying on the > firewall on your router, and the machines you want to connect to are on > the local network side, this isn't an issue. However, if you are running > a firewall on your ubuntu machine, then port 631 could very well be > blocked, and that would explain why you cant make a connection. > > Based on your previous posts, it appears port 631 is listening on all > interfaces. The question here is what is stopping your windows machine > from connecting to port 631. What happens if you open a command prompt > on your windows machine and type (where ubuntu_server is the host name > or ip address): > > C:\> telnet ubuntu_server 631 > > Do you get a "Could not open connection to the host" error? No, I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the top left corner. > > One other thought, are you in fact specifying the port when testing the > connection via your browser? In other words, typing the following > address with 631 specified in the address in your windows browser (where > ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address): > > http://ubuntu_server:631/printers I get my printers listed with a brief description. Norman From ruscook_oz at yahoo.com.au Sun Dec 3 20:36:47 2006 From: ruscook_oz at yahoo.com.au (ruscook) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 07:36:47 +1100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165178207.10595.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 10:15 +0000, norman wrote: > > > I leave my box on most of the time. It is probably because I believe > > > that there is more strain on components with switching on and off rather > > > than running constantly. > > > > I don't really believe that. I think the components that are most > > likely to wear are the mechanical ones: drives and fans. Those wear out > > with every spin. > > < snip > > > You must understand that I am quite ancient and my memory goes back to > the days before transistors were invented. We used 'valves' or 'tubes' > and these lasted much longer by being left on permanently. Also I > suspect that the quality of resistors, capacitors etc was no where near > as good as those used today. > Hi Norman I "only " go back to CPM and Apple II days in the early 80's, however you are still 100% correct in attributing thermal shock to equipment when powered up or down. Power down can cause a spike and overload kit, power up can cause surges but DEFINITELY causes heat to cold solid state components which can cause them to fail. Others are also right when they point out fans and hard disks are mechanical and more likely to fail than the solid state components. And yes hard disks can still develop stiction (although no where near as prevalent as in the 80's and early 90's) which will cause hard disks to fail on power on after being left on for a number of years. Even so, power on/off is I think a moot point in a lot of cases now a days as quality of all components has improved since the 80's. I tend to leave my computers on, 1 is a server (with web and mail) and I turn off my desktop about every other day (part of the reason to leave it on is a) suspend still doesn't work properly and b) I have a cron job backing it up to the server in the wee hours. Kind Regards Russell ================== www.windsorcycles.com.au sales at windsorcycles.com.au ph. 02 4577 3209 bikes.no-ip.info Linux user #369094 ================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Matthew Clarke wrote: > personal-hygiene > karisma (KDE package?) > small-talk > dance-moves > > please, I think I'm still missing some sources!! Sorry, can't help. These topics are beyond my current skillset. :-) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl Sun Dec 3 21:06:58 2006 From: Joris at familiedobbelsteen.nl (Joris Dobbelsteen) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:06:58 +0100 Subject: how to download through windows Message-ID: <73427AD314CC364C8DF0FFF9C4D693FF544A@nehemiah.joris2k.local> Since you won't be Internet connected with Linux, just grab the complete CD or DVD with all software on it. That would be the best bet. Probably the Install/Live DVD would do. That should contain most software already. Others probably have better suggestions/pointers. - Joris >-----Original Message----- >From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com >[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of >Cheatah 0#@!^ >Sent: zondag 3 december 2006 21:50 >To: ubuntu-users >Subject: how to download through windows > >i have a kubuntu 6.06 lts, i couldnt configure my modem in it >and is not able to connect to internet from my kubuntu. >however i have a running internet connection on win. xp. >I want to know can i download applications for my kubuntu >through my windows internet connection, what is the source of >such downloads and how can i install it in kubuntu?? >thanks. > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 21:55:46 2006 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 16:55:46 -0500 Subject: how to download through windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457347E2.9080500@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > i have a kubuntu 6.06 lts, i couldnt configure my modem in it and is > not able to connect to internet from my kubuntu. however i have a > running internet connection on win. xp. > I want to know can i download applications for my kubuntu through my > windows internet connection, what is the source of such downloads and > how can i install it in kubuntu?? > thanks. > You can get any individual package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/, and install by double-clicking on the desktop (Gnome, not sure of KDE) or with 'dpkg -i /path/to/downloaded_deb_file'. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFc0fh6iO+5ByUi/QRAqreAKCpxKruAkf/xlnIT2BbrvXVa/ZCcwCglHbd 6ZicEYGyYaNHsc0HEmoTRbY= =mCWW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From haniganwork at earthlik.net Mon Dec 4 00:12:25 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:12:25 -0600 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <45731F54.9000501@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165120077.20725.4.camel@star> <45731F54.9000501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165191146.14867.6.camel@star> Mitch, Your talk of firewall issues with Norman gave me an idea. I turned off zonealarm on the xp machine and the installation worked. Linda > > > When you run the Add Printer wizard in windows, select Network Printer > and in the URL field type: > > http://ubuntu_server:631/printers/printer_name > > Where ubuntu_server is the hostname or ip address for the machine > running cups, and printer_name is the printer name assigned to the printer. > > -- > Mitch > From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Mon Dec 4 00:35:09 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:35:09 -0500 Subject: wifi-radar not working Message-ID: <45736D3D.6040803@tampabay.rr.com> well, I do have a wireless connection working, using dhcp, and NO wep Network setting for wireless card: essid: linksys dhcp --- wifi-radar see the connection, and connect automatic.. good. plus it see a near by connection as well. ( not mine ) ------------------------- NOW the problem when I turn on the wep in the linksys router, using 128bit encryption (lets say password: blueberry ) there are generated key codes key one: 123d3d3d698s87d7d555.....(etc) I have tried both ways, password and key one code to access the network, via wifi-radar. I try putting the password into the Network Setting (xubuntu), nope, so no matter which way I go, the connection via wifi-radar can't pull a ip address, with wep security turn on. -------------- There no doc on what to put what where ??? :-( So, anyone that can help to connect the two, networking setting and wifi-radar using wep.... please do. :-) Major Thanks- Rich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Kepalaken From harley7 at cogeco.ca Mon Dec 4 01:06:39 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:06:39 -0500 Subject: wifi-radar not working In-Reply-To: <45736D3D.6040803@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45736D3D.6040803@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <4573749F.2050906@cogeco.ca> Richard wrote: > well, I do have a wireless connection working, using dhcp, > and NO wep > > Network setting for wireless card: > essid: linksys > dhcp > --- > wifi-radar see the connection, and connect automatic.. good. > plus it see a near by connection as well. ( not mine ) > ------------------------- > NOW the problem > when I turn on the wep in the linksys router, using 128bit encryption > (lets say password: blueberry ) there are generated key codes > key one: 123d3d3d698s87d7d555.....(etc) > > I have tried both ways, password and key one code to access the network, > via wifi-radar. > > I try putting the password into the Network Setting (xubuntu), > nope, so no matter which way I go, the connection via wifi-radar can't > pull a ip address, with wep security turn on. Ok I'll give it a shot. That password that you entered to get the WEP keys is *not* a password. It's just some bytes used to generate a random key. Having said that, it's the key you need, not the password. I've never used wifi-radar, but I've pulled up the project web page. Enter the WEP key into to Key textbox, then open the Security pull down and change it to WEP. If you've already done that, I'm not sure I can be of any more help, sorry. The only other advice I can give is to make sure you enter the key exactly as it appears in you linksys config. HTH, Bill From harley7 at cogeco.ca Mon Dec 4 01:09:07 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:09:07 -0500 Subject: System configuration In-Reply-To: <45737356.7090705@alltel.net> References: <45737356.7090705@alltel.net> Message-ID: <45737533.2@cogeco.ca> KepalaLinux wrote: > I am studying how to look at my hard drive, the partitions, and the > partition sizes. Can anyone tell me is this a GUI interface? I have GNU > Parted installed but am not real familiar with it. I am just learning > and simply want to see how my system is configured. gparted is the package you want. Bill From smccuan at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 01:09:26 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:09:26 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Stock Firefox is sllloooww In-Reply-To: <1165108681.6105.3.camel@worldventures> References: <1165108681.6105.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Im curious as well - is there any reason for the performance hindrance? On 12/2/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Just installed FF2 on my Dapper system, following some instructions in > the Wiki. It even says in there that the Mozilla build of FF is > significantly faster. I didn't really believe it and thought I wouldn't > notice anything anyway. > But it really is faster - it seems to scrape the hard drive much less > when loading it up and pages are displayed instantly. > I do remember this being covered quite some time back, but at the time I > don't remember any over-whelming reason given. > > Why is the ubuntu build so much slower? I can't understand it. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kepalalinux at alltel.net Mon Dec 4 01:16:40 2006 From: kepalalinux at alltel.net (KepalaLinux) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:16:40 -0500 Subject: System configuration In-Reply-To: <45737533.2@cogeco.ca> References: <45737356.7090705@alltel.net> <45737533.2@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <457376F8.60008@alltel.net> Bill Davidson wrote: > KepalaLinux wrote: > >> I am studying how to look at my hard drive, the partitions, and the >> partition sizes. Can anyone tell me is this a GUI interface? I have GNU >> Parted installed but am not real familiar with it. I am just learning >> and simply want to see how my system is configured. >> > > gparted is the package you want. > > Bill > > forgive my ignorance but GNU Parted is not on any of my menus and as a new user, I don't know how to get the program running. Does anyone know? Thanks. From harley7 at cogeco.ca Mon Dec 4 01:28:33 2006 From: harley7 at cogeco.ca (Bill Davidson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:28:33 -0500 Subject: System configuration In-Reply-To: <457376F8.60008@alltel.net> References: <45737356.7090705@alltel.net> <45737533.2@cogeco.ca> <457376F8.60008@alltel.net> Message-ID: <457379C1.7000404@cogeco.ca> KepalaLinux wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: >> KepalaLinux wrote: >> >>> I am studying how to look at my hard drive, the partitions, and the >>> partition sizes. Can anyone tell me is this a GUI interface? I have GNU >>> Parted installed but am not real familiar with it. I am just learning >>> and simply want to see how my system is configured. >>> >> gparted is the package you want. >> >> Bill >> >> > forgive my ignorance but GNU Parted is not on any of my menus and as a > new user, I don't know how to get the program running. Does anyone know? Sorry, it's not installed by default. Either install it through synaptic or run this command in a terminal: sudo apt-get install gparted HTH, Bill From squareyes at internode.on.net Mon Dec 4 02:27:25 2006 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:57:25 +1030 Subject: System configuration In-Reply-To: <457376F8.60008@alltel.net> References: <45737356.7090705@alltel.net> <45737533.2@cogeco.ca> <457376F8.60008@alltel.net> Message-ID: <4573878D.5020006@internode.on.net> KepalaLinux wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: > >> KepalaLinux wrote: >> >> >>> I am studying how to look at my hard drive, the partitions, and the >>> partition sizes. Can anyone tell me is this a GUI interface? I have GNU >>> Parted installed but am not real familiar with it. I am just learning >>> and simply want to see how my system is configured. >>> >>> >> gparted is the package you want. >> >> Bill >> >> >> > forgive my ignorance but GNU Parted is not on any of my menus and as a > new user, I don't know how to get the program running. Does anyone know? > > Thanks. > > Hi, could also try downloading gparted live CD. Can boot from it, with nothing mounted http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Hope this helps. Take Care Winton From mcontla at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 02:28:45 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:28:45 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165175045.5011.40.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> <45732166.90002@gmail.com> <1165175045.5011.40.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457387DD.4020203@gmail.com> norman said the following on 12/03/2006 11:44 AM: > < snip > > > >> This all depends on where the firewall is. If you are relying on the >> firewall on your router, and the machines you want to connect to are on >> the local network side, this isn't an issue. However, if you are running >> a firewall on your ubuntu machine, then port 631 could very well be >> blocked, and that would explain why you cant make a connection. >> >> Based on your previous posts, it appears port 631 is listening on all >> interfaces. The question here is what is stopping your windows machine >> from connecting to port 631. What happens if you open a command prompt >> on your windows machine and type (where ubuntu_server is the host name >> or ip address): >> >> C:\> telnet ubuntu_server 631 >> >> Do you get a "Could not open connection to the host" error? >> > > No, I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the top left corner. > Perfect, that's exactly what you should get. Your ubuntu box is accepting connections on 631. >> One other thought, are you in fact specifying the port when testing the >> connection via your browser? In other words, typing the following >> address with 631 specified in the address in your windows browser (where >> ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address): >> >> http://ubuntu_server:631/printers >> > > I get my printers listed with a brief description. > > Norman > Even better!! Cups is listening, accepting connections, and your windows browser can get to it. (I'm curious what changed from your previous post when you said your browser returned "Page cannot be displayed". Did you reboot your ubuntu machine??, restart cups??, typo when you entered the url??) Setting up your print now should be a snap. Start the Add Printer wizard on your windows machine, select Network Printer, and type the following address in URL (where ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address for your ubuntu machine, and printer_name is the name of your printer). Don't forget the '631': http://ubuntu_server:631/printers/printer_name Finish the Add Printer wizard and install the driver. That should be it. Let me know how it turns out! -- Mitch From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 4 03:13:09 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:13:09 +0700 Subject: Disk problem: After resize, Gparted shows 8.46 Gb used but actual usage only 2.3 Gb Message-ID: <1165201989.4838.7.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> I have a ReiserFS /home partition that used to be 9 or so Gb but as I use only 2.3 Gb of it I wanted to resize it to make it smaller, say 3.5 Gb or so, then move it so I can extend my almost full Fat32 Windows documents partition. While resizing though, it seems Gparted crashed. It just disappeared, the whole window. Since then, the partition still shows to be the same size, but almost full! 8.46 Gb but I only use the same 2.3 Gb.. (du -h /home confirms this) Do now what do I do? Tried reiserfsck but it did not find anything wrong, also not with the -z option. I was going to make a backup and delete the whole partition and then re-create it, or does anyone here have a better idea how to solve this? Also it seems I cannot MOVE a reiserfs partition.. I need to do this to make the space needed to extend my documents partition. Can this be done? I don't want to install Ubuntu all over again. Cheers, Chanchao From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 03:28:26 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:28:26 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu Message-ID: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as a data CD. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: England vs Australia Ashes series on ABC radio From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 4 03:39:04 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:39:04 +0700 Subject: how to download through windows In-Reply-To: <457347E2.9080500@earthlink.net> References: <457347E2.9080500@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1165203544.4838.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 16:55 -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote: > > i have a kubuntu 6.06 lts, i couldnt configure my modem in it and is > > not able to connect to internet from my kubuntu. however i have a > > running internet connection on win. xp. You mean on the same PC, like dual boot? Or you also have an additional PC that runs Windows XP and is connected to the internet? If that's the case (2 PC's) then you can share your Windows dial-up connection (Google Windows Connection Sharing) and network your Ubuntu PC to the Windows one. (Can be cross-over cable, or through a hub, or wireless) That's the way I did it for a long time. Modem support is pretty dismal in Ubuntu. Everyone keeps blaming modem vendors but they're not changing, and modems that DO work with Ubuntu out of the box are dying out fast. (As are the serial ports themselves, that those modem would connect to. ) Cheers, Chanchao From tom at nextstate.net Mon Dec 4 04:20:02 2006 From: tom at nextstate.net (Tom Brown) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:20:02 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <1165206002.29604.5.camel@chi> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: > I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image > that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as > a data CD. I always use xcdroast. There are probably others out there you can use. HTH, Tom From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 04:28:03 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:28:03 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165206002.29604.5.camel@chi> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> <1165206002.29604.5.camel@chi> Message-ID: <4573A3D3.3040602@systemstheory.net> Tom Brown wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: >> I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image >> that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as >> a data CD. > > I always use xcdroast. There are probably others out there you can use. > > HTH, > Tom Thanks Tom. I'll give it a whirl. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: England vs Australia Ashes series on ABC radio From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 06:02:59 2006 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 02:02:59 -0400 Subject: T30 ATI radeon movility 700 Message-ID: <865773ce0612032202s37c668fcsefb0b63f43631063@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am running Dapper on a T30, whith this ggarron at ggarron-laptop:~$ lspci 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42) 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 0000:02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01) 0000:02:00.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01) 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42) I just reinstalled dapper on this machine, before I had a problem of complete freezing, which was solved commenting some line in xorg.conf file, something about accel I think, i cant remember, and cant find what was that thing i changed, now that i have just reinstalled I have again the same problem of freezing can anyone help me please? regards, Guillermo. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC5, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 4 06:59:06 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:59:06 +0700 Subject: nm-applet / Gnome Network Manager: How to stop it from connecting to networks I don't want Message-ID: <1165215547.5868.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Hi, Can anyone explain what the relation is between nm-applet (Gnome Network Manager) and "Network Monitor" ? Both are panel applets and they seem to overlap and interfere with each other. nm-applet does a GREAT job connecting to wireless networks. In fact it works TOO good.. it also connects to any random wireless access point that's unencrypted, and then configures DNS for me, taking it away from my regular office fixed LAN network. I don't want it to do that! I only want it to connect to my home wifi network when I'm at home, and leave me alone when I'm at the office and using the regular LAN. I did not see any settings window or other configuration screen.. How to solve this? Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 4 07:02:46 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:02:46 +0700 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: Disk problem: After resize, Gparted shows 8.46 Gb used but actual usage only 2.3 Gb In-Reply-To: <1165201989.4838.7.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165201989.4838.7.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165215766.5868.8.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 10:13 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > I have a ReiserFS /home partition that used to be 9 or so Gb but as I > use only 2.3 Gb of it I wanted to resize it to make it smaller, say 3.5 > Gb or so, then move it so I can extend my almost full Fat32 Windows > documents partition. > > While resizing though, it seems Gparted crashed. It just disappeared, > the whole window. > > Since then, the partition still shows to be the same size, but almost > full! 8.46 Gb but I only use the same 2.3 Gb.. (du -h /home confirms > this) Solved this by unmounting the partition and running reiserfsck with the --rebuild-sb option, followed by a regular check. Turns out the gparted version in Ubuntu cannot move ReiserFS partitions, and is apparently shaky when resizing. So I downloaded the GParted Live CD, booted it and used to to resize and move everything. Everything is fine now! Cheers, Chanchao From tech_dev at wildintellect.com Mon Dec 4 08:07:18 2006 From: tech_dev at wildintellect.com (Alex Mandel) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:07:18 -0800 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> References: <1164351654.7412.7.camel@jonathan.logical.co.zw> <200611240651.27350.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <456CF012.9000707@systemstheory.net> <456CFAF1.5030506@fahrlander.net> <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: sdavmor wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> sdavmor wrote: >> >>> I'm getting my family off Windows onto Ubuntu ASAP before they start >>> bugging me about upgrading them to Vista. Just a few Windows app >>> issues, but I think come January all that will be left will be my >>> kids' games and my music workstation (which will remain until the NET >>> 2.0 issues are solved for WINE). >> How about VMWare? I'll bet there's no .NET issues, there...WINE >> isn't trash, but VMWare's always been better. And now it's free, >> too.. > > I imagine VMWare or QEMU will be the interim solution. Thanks for > pointing out VMWare's free option. I didn't know that was so. Learn > something new every day... > > Eventually I'd like any carryover apps to be integrated under WINE > rather than a virtual guest. Or better still replaced by an improved > native *nix app... ;-) FYI free VMWARE Server works. Qemu does not run windows. Alex From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Dec 4 08:44:59 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:44:59 -0500 Subject: Upgrades Message-ID: <1165221899.5848.275.camel@localhost> I'd like to upgrade my production LAMP server (currently running 5.10) to 6.06 LTS. My concern is losing all of the configuration information for things like qmail, dns/bind9, mysql, apache2, etc. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. From kristian at zimmer428.net Mon Dec 4 09:14:02 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:14:02 +0100 Subject: Upgrades In-Reply-To: <1165221899.5848.275.camel@localhost> References: <1165221899.5848.275.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4573E6DA.4000501@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John; John Dangler schrieb: > I'd like to upgrade my production LAMP server (currently running 5.10) > to 6.06 LTS. My concern is losing all of the configuration information > for things like qmail, dns/bind9, mysql, apache2, etc. Can't really be too much of help I guess as, even though I upgraded our systems lately (moving to dapper from Debian unstable), I didn't "really" do an upgrade but actually migrated configuration and data to new machines installed from scratch on new hardware. If this is an option to you, I'd recommend this as the way to go, as this way you could step-by-step build your new system, move over any configuration / data files and ensure things are working as desired. Don't know about 5.10 LAMP server, but I bet (this being a production machine) there is enough data and need of availability at stake to go the "trial-and-error" way. If you don't have a spare machine for that, you possibly might try the free(-of-charge) VMWare server to build yourself a Dapper testbed system. Then: - - Install a blank Dapper there, including the packages you need (servers, tools, ...). - - Move configuration to there and get them up and running, until you do have a "working copy" of your old machine on the new distribution. - - Move your data to the "new" server. - - Make use of some sort of live filesystem (Knoppix, ...) on the server to repartition your drive, build new filesystems and move your newly installed server from the virtual machine to the "real" machine using rsync. Good luck in whatever you'll ultimately be doing, Kris - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFc+bZcxBAPOA1m6wRAjaYAJ9KxVBafNv/dnKrKNs38MNtLNql2QCgjEKK ihY9e/Pn1a8fu6F9QURau2E= =jswJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ubuntu at ramm-ericson.se Mon Dec 4 09:32:03 2006 From: ubuntu at ramm-ericson.se (Johan Ramm-Ericson) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:32:03 +0100 Subject: Disk problem: After resize, Gparted shows 8.46 Gb used but actual usage only 2.3 Gb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1165224724.15349.12.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 03:39 +0000, Chanchao wrote: > I have a ReiserFS /home partition that used to be 9 or so Gb but as I > use only 2.3 Gb of it I wanted to resize it to make it smaller, say 3.5 > Gb or so, then move it so I can extend my almost full Fat32 Windows > documents partition. > > While resizing though, it seems Gparted crashed. It just disappeared, > the whole window. Ouuch! Shrinking a Reiser3 filesystem online is something I'd definitely not do. > Since then, the partition still shows to be the same size, but almost > full! 8.46 Gb but I only use the same 2.3 Gb.. (du -h /home confirms > this) > > Do now what do I do? Tried reiserfsck but it did not find anything > wrong, also not with the -z option. > > I was going to make a backup and delete the whole partition and then > re-create it, or does anyone here have a better idea how to solve this? If you didn't before - make a backup now. You should always backup regardless... Yes, I'd go with recreating the partition. > Also it seems I cannot MOVE a reiserfs partition.. I need to do this to > make the space needed to extend my documents partition. Can this be > done? I don't want to install Ubuntu all over again. Sorry, I have no input there. Good luck, Johan From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 4 09:53:21 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:53:21 +0700 Subject: Disk problem: After resize, Gparted shows 8.46 Gb used but actual usage only 2.3 Gb In-Reply-To: <1165224724.15349.12.camel@localhost> References: <1165224724.15349.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165226001.5442.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 10:32 +0100, Johan Ramm-Ericson wrote: > > While resizing though, it seems Gparted crashed. It just disappeared, > > the whole window. > > Ouuch! Shrinking a Reiser3 filesystem online is something I'd definitely > not do. Well, not online of course. I booted into the Edgy Desktop CD. Cheers, Chanchao From norman at littletank.org Mon Dec 4 10:53:55 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:53:55 +0000 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <457387DD.4020203@gmail.com> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> <45732166.90002@gmail.com> <1165175045.5011.40.camel@localhost> <457387DD.4020203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165229636.5011.47.camel@localhost> > >> http://ubuntu_server:631/printers > >> > > > > I get my printers listed with a brief description. > Even better!! Cups is listening, accepting connections, and your windows > browser can get to it. > > (I'm curious what changed from your previous post when you said your > browser returned "Page cannot be displayed". Did you reboot your ubuntu > machine??, restart cups??, typo when you entered the url??) I think the problem is probably with the laptop which is quite old, slow and running windows 2000. > > Setting up your print now should be a snap. Start the Add Printer wizard > on your windows machine, select Network Printer, and type the following > address in URL (where ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address for > your ubuntu machine, and printer_name is the name of your printer). > Don't forget the '631': > > http://ubuntu_server:631/printers/printer_name > > Finish the Add Printer wizard and install the driver. That should be it. > Let me know how it turns out! You will not believe it but, having just booted up the laptop and followed the instructions, it worked. Thanks to all of you for putting up with me and especially Mitch who encouraged me a tremendous amount. Norman From asturiolists at gmx.net Mon Dec 4 10:58:15 2006 From: asturiolists at gmx.net (Claudio Clemens) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:58:15 +0100 Subject: Connecting to MSN In-Reply-To: <1164392506.6780.16.camel@Ubuntu-64> References: <200611221056.14859.keith@keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk> <200611222057.16659.keith@keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk> <1164254719.24587.3.camel@localhost> <219482c0611240355v69c8a593s5ca7689bf7f9b38d@mail.gmail.com> <1164392506.6780.16.camel@Ubuntu-64> Message-ID: <20061204105815.GA8581@thorion.karameikos.my> 2006-11-24, 18:21 +0000, Trevor Nye: > However skype will nit install on a 64 machine as is > Thats not true. You need to install the static package (should be a tar.gz). And then some other packages with some 32 Bit Libraries. Then it works (ok, it is not 64 bit pure, but it runs on my 64 bit edgy). HTH Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. 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Sometimes you need to run that a couple of times, and install one > >or two packages as needed, but often it will resolve the situation . > > > >It's also also worth trying aptitude, rather than apt-get ( aptitude is > >smarter !) > > > > Sadly - both fail ... Try running aptitude interactively. You can Check Broken Packages with "B". With "Enter" in the package name you can see what is wrong. You can try to uninstall alls exim packages and all there packages you are wanting to upgrade. Then find in the filesystem alls exim4 files (with find / -name "exim4"). If you delete them and then try to install exim again, it should work. You may probably want to backup those files :-) HTH Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 11:23:48 2006 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:23:48 +0100 Subject: PXE boot In-Reply-To: <456EB8B4.9000902@sarai.net> References: <379ea5900611290416q352e6d3bs319b21f1f8c0916d@mail.gmail.com> <456EB8B4.9000902@sarai.net> Message-ID: <379ea5900612040323x29c77dfi53777b1814630c9a@mail.gmail.com> In the beginning of this thread I wrote > I want to use an existing Ubuntu server to boot machines via PXE. > I want the PCs that boot this way to behave _exactly_ as if they'd > booted from the 6.10 install/live CD locally. The only difference > being that the users will have to get the machine to PXE boot. Thanks for the input regarding the DHCP part of this! Unfortunately the core of the matter stands untouched... How do I convert a bootable CD (or bootable floppy for that matter) into a bootable image that can be used with PXE? Kind regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From kristian at zimmer428.net Mon Dec 4 11:47:01 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:47:01 +0100 Subject: Upgrades In-Reply-To: <1165230438.5848.287.camel@localhost> References: <1165221899.5848.275.camel@localhost> <4573E6DA.4000501@zimmer428.net> <1165230438.5848.287.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45740AB5.7030706@zimmer428.net> John; John Dangler schrieb: > location of the server). I would prefer to do a clean install and move > the configuration data, but the remote install is a bit fuzzy to me. > Do you think either of these scenarios is viable? Although generally it _should_ work, I am not too comfortable with dist-upgrading to a new release (maybe because of a couple of rather _bad_ SuSE experiences earlier in my life). Seeing your situation (remote management), I'd be even more careful. Personally, given your situation, I'd go more or less this way: - Make use of rsync across ssh to get a fully usable 1:1 copy of the remote server to some local host (physical or virtual one - it doesn't really matter). Having a working backup ain't all that bad, and I prefer rsync to tar here simply for convenience reasons. ;) - Do a blank Dapper installation to some other local machine and get it up and running as if it was your "remote" server (including all the services, configuration, data you just backed up). - Done so, do a remote installation of dapper on your production server (I assume you have some way to get that done - ftp and ssh aren't likely to help you that much here). Be sure to get rsync and ssh installed, and sync' back all your newly installed local server to there. Reboot. Pray. Sync'ing back might end up in some files not being transmitted (like lock and log files of services running), but you shouldn't worry too much about that as long as your data and the /etc stuff does get through well. - After syncing things to the remote server, be sure to modify essential configuration items to meet the actual situation of the remote machine (most notably network configuration, file systems in /etc/fstab, possibly grub configuration to find the correct root filesystem, ...) before rebooting. Otherwise, probably you still booked yourself a mid-distance trip... This still is a little fuzzy, I think. And it all should depend on what you have (local machines, network connection bandwidth, server storage capacity [I surely wouldn't like to sync 10+ GB through a low-bandwidth DSL line...]). But I think you should be out well if you just take extremely care before doing anything. ;) Cheers & good luck, Kris -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 12:09:01 2006 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:09:01 -0400 Subject: T30 ATI radeon movility 700 In-Reply-To: <865773ce0612032202s37c668fcsefb0b63f43631063@mail.gmail.com> References: <865773ce0612032202s37c668fcsefb0b63f43631063@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <865773ce0612040409p66d919c7o5740723b91d402fa@mail.gmail.com> Hi, i have found the solution if its usefull for anyone. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244308 regards, Guillermo. On 12/4/06, Guillermo Garron wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Dapper on a T30, > > whith this > ggarron at ggarron-laptop:~$ lspci > 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) > Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) > 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) > Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) > 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) > 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) > 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) > 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42) > 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) > 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02) > 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) > 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation > 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) > 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem > Controller (rev 02) > 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon > Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] > 0000:02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus > Controller (rev 01) > 0000:02:00.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus > Controller (rev 01) > 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco > Aironet Wireless 802.11b > 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) > PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42) > > > I just reinstalled dapper on this machine, before I had a problem of > complete freezing, which was solved commenting some line in xorg.conf > file, something about accel I think, i cant remember, and cant find > what was that thing i changed, now that i have just reinstalled I have > again the same problem of freezing can anyone help me please? > > regards, > > Guillermo. > > > -- > Guillermo Garron > "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." > (Using FC5, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) > -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC5, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) From smccuan at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 12:57:29 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:57:29 -0500 Subject: Upgrades In-Reply-To: <45740AB5.7030706@zimmer428.net> References: <1165221899.5848.275.camel@localhost> <4573E6DA.4000501@zimmer428.net> <1165230438.5848.287.camel@localhost> <45740AB5.7030706@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: On 12/4/06, Kristian Rink wrote: > > John; > > Although generally it _should_ work, I am not too comfortable with > dist-upgrading to a new release (maybe because of a couple of rather > _bad_ SuSE experiences earlier in my life). Seeing your situation > (remote management), I'd be even more careful. Personally, given your > situation, I'd go more or less this way: Its been my experience that Ubuntu (and Debian) are extremely good at dist-upgrades due to using *.deb as package management instead of *.rpm. The only time I ever experience any problems is when I've crossed streams by pulling from multiple repositories. (ie. Using Ubuntu and pulling some packages from Debian, or using Linspire and pulling from Debian or Ubuntu) I've had nothing shy of horrible experiences with SuSE and its package management. (Even in release 10.0 which was not nearly as mangled as 10.1) The way that they handle security patches and updates/upgrades is ridiculous, there are always dependency conflicts with anything that gets updated. (Not to mention that this occurs when your only pulling from the official SuSE repositories!!) 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Amichai On 12/4/06, Chanchao wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 16:55 -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote: > > > > i have a kubuntu 6.06 lts, i couldnt configure my modem in it and is > > > not able to connect to internet from my kubuntu. however i have a > > > running internet connection on win. xp. > > You mean on the same PC, like dual boot? Or you also have an additional > PC that runs Windows XP and is connected to the internet? > > If that's the case (2 PC's) then you can share your Windows dial-up > connection (Google Windows Connection Sharing) and network your Ubuntu > PC to the Windows one. (Can be cross-over cable, or through a hub, or > wireless) > > That's the way I did it for a long time. Modem support is pretty dismal > in Ubuntu. Everyone keeps blaming modem vendors but they're not > changing, and modems that DO work with Ubuntu out of the box are dying > out fast. 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URL: From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 13:28:19 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:28:19 +0100 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: References: <1164351654.7412.7.camel@jonathan.logical.co.zw> <200611240651.27350.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <456CF012.9000707@systemstheory.net> <456CFAF1.5030506@fahrlander.net> <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> On 12/4/06, Alex Mandel wrote: > sdavmor wrote: > > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> sdavmor wrote: > >> > >>> I'm getting my family off Windows onto Ubuntu ASAP before they start > >>> bugging me about upgrading them to Vista. Just a few Windows app > >>> issues, but I think come January all that will be left will be my > >>> kids' games and my music workstation (which will remain until the NET > >>> 2.0 issues are solved for WINE). > >> How about VMWare? I'll bet there's no .NET issues, there...WINE > >> isn't trash, but VMWare's always been better. And now it's free, > >> too.. > > > > I imagine VMWare or QEMU will be the interim solution. Thanks for > > pointing out VMWare's free option. I didn't know that was so. Learn > > something new every day... > > > > Eventually I'd like any carryover apps to be integrated under WINE > > rather than a virtual guest. Or better still replaced by an improved > > native *nix app... ;-) > FYI free VMWARE Server works. Qemu does not run windows. When you say QEMU doesn't run Windows, are you talking about Windows Vista, right? Cause QEMU runs Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP seamlessly. From ed.smits at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 14:19:44 2006 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:19:44 -0500 Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? Message-ID: Just read about the Democracy project in slashdot, sounds interesting. Went to the site http://www.getdemocracy.com/ and there is an UBUNTU download available, however trying to install it I get an error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0 . I do have that installed already so am at a bit of a loss how to proceed, it's also not a burning issue at present, so I thought I'd turn to you guys for advice: 1) is there a version available through one of the Dapper repositories? I did a search in Synaptic, nothing found, but maybe I'm missing the right repository. If not, how long does it take for this sort of package to get blessed and added? 2) anyone out there using Democracy? What's your take on it - is it worth the effort? I'd like an all-in-one media player.... Thanks in advance ED From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Dec 4 14:32:11 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:32:11 +0000 Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0612040632r1c9cb505qdf724519bd4a2293@mail.gmail.com> On 04/12/06, Ed Smits wrote: > Just read about the Democracy project in slashdot, sounds interesting. Freaky, I did exactly the same thing. > and there is an UBUNTU download available, however trying to install > it I get an error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0 . I do > have that installed already so am at a bit of a loss how to proceed, using dpkg, it informed me that although I had libatk, it was too old, darn it. > 1) is there a version available through one of the Dapper > repositories? Not that I could find. > If not, how long does it take for this > sort of package to get blessed and added? No new additions are made once a release is out the door (I think). You can enable backports and hope someone backports it to Dapper. > 2) anyone out there using Democracy? What's your take on it - is it > worth the effort? I'd like an all-in-one media player.... I used an old version, I thought it wasn't very good, but that's along time ago and apparently it has improved, I wanted to try it but being on dapper I can't. If I get some free time I may try it in my Edgy Virtual Machine. It might be possible to install from source, but it will probably still want that library you could install a newer version of that library from source, but there is quite a high probability your machine may no longer function properly so I wouldn't risk it. - Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From mike_po at streamyx.com Mon Dec 4 14:50:24 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:50:24 +0800 Subject: cisco aironet 350 Message-ID: <457435B0.6040209@streamyx.com> Hi, I have tried both ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 Why only kubuntu can connect using cisco? How to make ubuntu recognise cisco? How do I set such that kubuntu will connect to wifi automatically once login? From mcontla at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 15:18:02 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 07:18:02 -0800 Subject: printer In-Reply-To: <1165229636.5011.47.camel@localhost> References: <1164724897.5350.4.camel@localhost> <20061128184941.GP13960@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1164741782.13428.7.camel@localhost> <456DA1D6.1030502@gmail.com> <1164817148.13428.33.camel@localhost> <1164914500.15052.2.camel@localhost> <456F3E9C.6070206@gmail.com> <1164919416.15052.11.camel@localhost> <1165050059.15052.59.camel@localhost> <4571488E.2050705@manchester.ac.uk> <4571B052.1080101@gmail.com> <1165092834.5008.22.camel@localhost> <457209CF.2000201@gmail.com> <1165136842.5011.8.camel@localhost> <45730373.3040906@cogeco.ca> <1165169081.5011.19.camel@localhost> <45732166.90002@gmail.com> <1165175045.5011.40.camel@localhost> <457387DD.4020203@gmail.com> <1165229636.5011.47.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45743C2A.6090705@gmail.com> norman said the following on 12/04/2006 02:53 AM: >>>> http://ubuntu_server:631/printers >>>> >>>> >>> I get my printers listed with a brief description. >>> > > >> Even better!! Cups is listening, accepting connections, and your windows >> browser can get to it. >> >> (I'm curious what changed from your previous post when you said your >> browser returned "Page cannot be displayed". Did you reboot your ubuntu >> machine??, restart cups??, typo when you entered the url??) >> > > I think the problem is probably with the laptop which is quite old, slow > and running windows 2000. > >> Setting up your print now should be a snap. Start the Add Printer wizard >> on your windows machine, select Network Printer, and type the following >> address in URL (where ubuntu_server is the host name or ip address for >> your ubuntu machine, and printer_name is the name of your printer). >> Don't forget the '631': >> >> http://ubuntu_server:631/printers/printer_name >> >> Finish the Add Printer wizard and install the driver. That should be it. >> Let me know how it turns out! >> > > You will not believe it but, having just booted up the laptop and > followed the instructions, it worked. Thanks to all of you for putting > up with me and especially Mitch who encouraged me a tremendous amount. > > Norman > > > Glad to help! -- Mitch From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 15:26:22 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:26:22 +0000 Subject: PXE boot In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612040323x29c77dfi53777b1814630c9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900611290416q352e6d3bs319b21f1f8c0916d@mail.gmail.com> <456EB8B4.9000902@sarai.net> <379ea5900612040323x29c77dfi53777b1814630c9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/4/06, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > In the beginning of this thread I wrote > > > I want to use an existing Ubuntu server to boot machines via PXE. > > I want the PCs that boot this way to behave _exactly_ as if they'd > > booted from the 6.10 install/live CD locally. The only difference > > being that the users will have to get the machine to PXE boot. > > Thanks for the input regarding the DHCP part of this! > Unfortunately the core of the matter stands untouched... > > How do I convert a bootable CD (or bootable floppy for that matter) > into a bootable image that can be used with PXE? The LTSP package (part of edubuntu) uses PXE to boot up thin clients. One possibility is to install that package (you can in ubuntu), see how it does it, and then modify the boot image to look like normal Ubuntu, instead of the educational version. I've gotten this to work, but it was a long time ago, in Breezy, I think. Install ltsp-server-standalone or ltsp-server (I think you use this one if you already have a DHCP/TFTP server). Hope that helps. -Eamonn From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Dec 4 15:40:11 2006 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:40:11 -0500 Subject: T30 ATI radeon movility 700 In-Reply-To: <865773ce0612032202s37c668fcsefb0b63f43631063@mail.gmail.com> References: <865773ce0612032202s37c668fcsefb0b63f43631063@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165246811.5592.0.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 02:02 -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Dapper on a T30, > > I just reinstalled dapper on this machine, before I had a problem of > complete freezing, which was solved commenting some line in xorg.conf > file, something about accel I think, i cant remember, and cant find > what was that thing i changed, now that i have just reinstalled I have > again the same problem of freezing can anyone help me please? The bug and workarounds are tracked in launchpad under this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/36596 > regards, > > Guillermo. > > > -- > Guillermo Garron > "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." > (Using FC5, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) > -- Michael R. Head suppressingfire.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From burner at suppressingfire.org Mon Dec 4 15:41:35 2006 From: burner at suppressingfire.org (Michael R. Head) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:41:35 -0500 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <1165246895.5592.3.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: > I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image > that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as > a data CD. Nautilus will do it. Just go to Places/"CD/DVD Creator". Drag your files into the window that will appear. Then click the "Write to Disc" button. Select "File Image" and give it the location where you'd like your ISO written to. > -- > Cheers, > SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man > Systems Theory internet music project links: > official site > soundclick > garageband > "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 > "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 > NP: England vs Australia Ashes series on ABC radio > -- Michael R. Head suppressingfire.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From invenit at yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 15:44:43 2006 From: invenit at yahoo.com (Tony Brezovski) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:44:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? Message-ID: <20061204154443.59728.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> Not sure about Dapper, but Democracyplayer works fine on Edgy here (actually, I'm using Mint which is just Edgy under the hood). Install with "sudo apt-get install democracyplayer" command. Tony ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From vramnum10 at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 16:59:12 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:59:12 -0800 Subject: Dapper on Laptop Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612040859n7385282ei1de4149ef68e4587@mail.gmail.com> HI Just put dapper on my laptop and it didn't recognize my ether port... I remember seeing a link on how to add it... TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 17:56:51 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:56:51 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165246895.5592.3.camel@localhost> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> <1165246895.5592.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45746163.1030308@systemstheory.net> Michael R. Head wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: >> I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image >> that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as a >> data CD. > > Nautilus will do it. > > Just go to Places/"CD/DVD Creator". Drag your files into the window > that will appear. Then click the "Write to Disc" button. Select > "File Image" and give it the location where you'd like your ISO > written to. Thanks for that tip. I'll keep it mind for next time. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From slewin at rogers.com Mon Dec 4 18:01:49 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:01:49 -0500 Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? In-Reply-To: <20061204154443.59728.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061204154443.59728.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4574628D.1030008@rogers.com> Tony Brezovski wrote: > Not sure about Dapper, but Democracyplayer works fine > on Edgy here (actually, I'm using Mint which is just > Edgy under the hood). Install with "sudo apt-get > install democracyplayer" command. Yes, an older version of democracy player (version .8 something) is in the edgy repositories, but there are none in dapper. I had version .9.1 working in dapper fine before I upgraded to edgy, but I had the backports enabled in Dapper. I never had any troubles with any dependencies. The only thing I had to do was do a install through synaptic instead of doing a simple left click on the .deb. Are you trying to install the new .9.2? Maybe that one requires newer dependencies. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux Kubuntu 6.10 system EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From mcontla at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 18:31:01 2006 From: mcontla at gmail.com (Mitch Contla) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:31:01 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4573A3D3.3040602@systemstheory.net> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> <1165206002.29604.5.camel@chi> <4573A3D3.3040602@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <45746965.6050907@gmail.com> sdavmor said the following on 12/03/2006 08:28 PM: > Tom Brown wrote: > >> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: >> >>> I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image >>> that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as >>> a data CD. >>> >> >> I always use xcdroast. There are probably others out there you can use. >> >> HTH, >> Tom >> > > Thanks Tom. I'll give it a whirl. > If you are a CLI freak, you could do something like: $ mkisofs -r -o mynew.iso /path/to/my/files This would write all everything in the "files" directory to mynew.iso. I think that's actually what xcdroast is doing. :) -- Mitch From Kjetil.Thuen at broadpark.no Mon Dec 4 18:58:39 2006 From: Kjetil.Thuen at broadpark.no (Kjetil Thuen) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:58:39 +0100 Subject: PXE boot In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612040323x29c77dfi53777b1814630c9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900611290416q352e6d3bs319b21f1f8c0916d@mail.gmail.com> <456EB8B4.9000902@sarai.net> <379ea5900612040323x29c77dfi53777b1814630c9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165258719.3683.39.camel@localhost> man, 04,.12.2006 kl. 12.23 +0100, skrev Bjørn Ingmar Berg: > Thanks for the input regarding the DHCP part of this! > Unfortunately the core of the matter stands untouched... > > How do I convert a bootable CD (or bootable floppy for that matter) > into a bootable image that can be used with PXE? Having run a pxe booted, ubuntu based mp3 jukebox for a while, I thought I could provide some input on this. There are four components involved: * The DHCP server * pxe boot-image * The tftp server * The NFS server The DHCP servers task is to tell any asking clients that a boot image is offered. I use the dhcp server from ubuntus dhcp package, and the relevant configuration lines in /etc/dhcpd.conf are these: allow booting; allow bootp; option root-path "10.0.0.2:/opt/wmusroot"; host wmus { hardware ethernet 00:40:63:c0:d1:ac; filename "pxelinux.0"; } wmus is the name of my mp3jukebox. 10.0.0.2:/opt/wmusroot is the NFS path to the exported root filesystem. More on this later. pxelinux.0 is the filename of the pxe boot image we offer. I installed the syslinux package and copied the included /usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0 to /tftpboot/ Next I installed the atftpd package. This provides a tftpserver that can serve the needed files for the boot process. I cannot remember know if this happened automatically at boot, but my /etc/inetd.conf contains the following line: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --mcast-port 1758 --mcast-addr 239.239.239.0-255 --mcast-ttl 1 --maxthread 100 --verbose=5 /tftpboot At this point I had a system that fetched and ran the pxelinux boot image. The next step is to tell it about where to get a kernel and initrd image. To do this I made a file /tftboot/pxelinux.cfg/default that looks like this: prompt 0 label linux kernel vmlinuz append root=/dev/nfs initrd=/initrd.img nfsroot=10.0.0.2:/opt/wmusroot ip=dhcp panic=10 acpi=off quiet splash This is equivalent to the grub config. pxelinux will try to fetch the kernel and initrd image from the tftp server. The nfsroot argument to the kernel again points to the nfs root directory that we saw in the dhcpd config. The files /tftpboot/vmlinuz and /tftboot/initrd.img are both symlinks to the nfsroot. That way I can install new kernels on the jukebox and have the tftp server automatically serve the right one. If you prefer, you can just copy a kernel and initrd.img into the /tftpboot dir. Now, I have a box that will get a pxe image, run it, then load the initrd image and then the kernel. At this point it will stop, since I have no NFS share yet. The NFS share is set up by adding the line /opt/wmusroot 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,sync) to /etc/exports and making sure the NFS server is running. This is where our situations start to differ. I do not boot a livecd image, but a minimal ubuntu installation that I got from thoughtpolice's ubuntu server vmware image(http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/). I just downloaded the image, booted it in vmware, made a tarball from the entire filesystem and scp'ed it out to the host os. I then untared the tarball into /opt/wmusroot, and I had a working minimal ubuntu that I could install my needed software into. However, I did try to boot a livecd image for the sake of this mail. What I found after moving away my existing /opt/wmusroot and then mounting the cd to /opt/wmusroot (and fixing the symlinks mentioned above), was that it will indeed boot, but it will not get far since the configuration on the cd wants to use stuff from the cd, and the cd is not present. To make this work I guess you would need to tweak either the initramfs image or the casper config on the cd. Both are possible if you copy the files from the cd into the NFS root dir instead of just mounting the cd there. TIP: The initrd file is just a gzipped cpio archive. This is what I had to do to make the vmware image pxe friendly. First i edited /etc/fstab to read 10.0.0.2:/opt/wmusroot/ / nfs rw 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 And then I changed the BOOT parameter in initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to read BOOT=nfs. I then did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic to generate a new initrd image that was configured to use NFS. If my memory serves me that was all I had to do (apart from struggling with the framebuffer for a couple of days, but that is another story). If what you need is a basic Ubuntu desktop and not the install possibilities that the livecd gives you, I would be happy to send you a tarball of my NFS root (sans passwords and such :)). If you need to use the actual livecd, I hope that this information will help you get there. -- Kjetil Thuen From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 19:03:49 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:03:49 -0800 Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45747115.3080605@systemstheory.net> Ed Smits wrote: > Just read about the Democracy project in slashdot, sounds interesting. > Went to the site > > http://www.getdemocracy.com/ > > and there is an UBUNTU download available, however trying to install > it I get an error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0 . I do > have that installed already so am at a bit of a loss how to proceed, > it's also not a burning issue at present, so I thought I'd turn to you > guys for advice: > > 1) is there a version available through one of the Dapper > repositories? I did a search in Synaptic, nothing found, but maybe I'm > missing the right repository. If not, how long does it take for this > sort of package to get blessed and added? > > 2) anyone out there using Democracy? What's your take on it - is it > worth the effort? I'd like an all-in-one media player.... > > > Thanks in advance > > > ED Never heard of it until now. But after taking a look at the link I'll definitely give it a test drive. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Dec 4 19:14:53 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:14:53 +0100 Subject: nm-applet / Gnome Network Manager: How to stop it from connecting to networks I don't want In-Reply-To: <1165215547.5868.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165215547.5868.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165259693.5712.140.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 13:59 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > Can anyone explain what the relation is between nm-applet (Gnome > Network > Manager) and "Network Monitor" ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager From kristian at zimmer428.net Mon Dec 4 19:15:16 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:15:16 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? Message-ID: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Folks; looking for a slim, usable, portable music player to have some noise handy whenever "on the road". Requirements: - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); - flash-memory, no hard drive; - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ rechargeables; - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). Does anyone around here own a device like that and can recommend spending money on it? :) Thanks in advance and bye, Kris From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 4 19:35:25 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:35:25 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: Kristian Rink wrote: > Folks; > > looking for a slim, usable, portable music player to have some noise > handy whenever "on the road". Requirements: > > - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); > - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); > - flash-memory, no hard drive; > - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ rechargeables; > - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). > > > Does anyone around here own a device like that and can recommend > spending money on it? :) > > Thanks in advance and bye, > Kris Well, sort of. I use a Samsung YP-F1. Works as USB-Storage under Linux, absolutely great, plays OGG, includes FM stereo, great earphones with excellent sound. Do not know about FLAC, never used it so far. The only drawback: It is so tiny, that you simply cannot fit conventional batteries. kind regards Eberhard From alexandre.franke at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 19:48:31 2006 From: alexandre.franke at gmail.com (Alexandre Franke) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:48:31 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: On 12/4/06, Kristian Rink wrote: > looking for a slim, usable, portable music player to have some noise > handy whenever "on the road". Requirements: > > - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); > - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); > - flash-memory, no hard drive; > - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ rechargeables; > - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). You should have a look at Samsung YP-Z5 series. -- Alexandre Franke GNU/Linux user #390077 From moranar at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 19:51:15 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:51:15 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612041151q5dae50f1q872f1b7bc3d8d93c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/4/06, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > The only drawback: It is so tiny, that you simply cannot fit conventional > batteries. > I'm not so sure it's a drawback (ok, far from an electric plug means no recharge, I know): I have a Packard Bell which doesn't fit the specs asked, but uses AAA batteries: it sucks one down in a few hours (less than 12, certainly). I'm going to buy rechargeables, otherwise the low cost will be outset by the constant expense in batteries. I didn't know it sucked so many milliAmps. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Dec 4 20:10:33 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:10:33 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: <1165263033.5712.144.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 20:15 +0100, Kristian Rink wrote: > > - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); > - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); > - flash-memory, no hard drive; > - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ > rechargeables; > - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). The iAudio stuff: http://www.cowonglobal.com/ I have a 1 GB model, it's great and does flac (I cannot live without that) From rl5 at shinyblue.net Mon Dec 4 20:10:54 2006 From: rl5 at shinyblue.net (Rich Lott) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:10:54 +0000 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: <1165263033.5712.144.camel@chronic> References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> <1165263033.5712.144.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <457480CE.9020108@shinyblue.net> I have a great one: Samsung YP-U1 2Gb, tiny, charges through a flip-out USB connector, generic mass-storage drivers so it works anywhere. Tiny display with loads of details, song names, etc. It's great! rich Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 20:15 +0100, Kristian Rink wrote: >> - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); >> - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); >> - flash-memory, no hard drive; >> - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ >> rechargeables; >> - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). > > The iAudio stuff: http://www.cowonglobal.com/ I have a 1 GB model, it's > great and does flac (I cannot live without that) > > From DaveM at Mich.Com Mon Dec 4 20:38:36 2006 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:38:36 -0500 Subject: script permissions - error while comparing DVD file Message-ID: <4.2.2.20061204153337.01ff8680@pop.mich.com> Ubuntu v6.06 I am trying to use a bash script to compare a file on a DVD to a file on my hard disk. The command: cmp /media/cdrom0/file1.junk /home/user/file1.junk The permissions for /media/cdrom0/file1.junk are: Permissions -r--r--r-- The permissions for /home/user/file1.junk are: Permissions -rw-r--r-- The error: TestScript.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/file1.junk: Permission denied Is there something special that I need to do in order to read a file that is on a DVD from within a script? This works from the command line. ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Inter-networked computers give you freedom. The "Trusted Computing Platform" could take that freedom away. http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Mon Dec 4 20:50:10 2006 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:50:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) Message-ID: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good info on making Linux child safe for surfing. I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to be safe. I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss from the beginning rather than having to refine things regulary. I've seen using squidguard but that looks sdifficult to set up but I will read into it more. In the meantime, any hints / tips / pointers would be great. Kids and computers is new to me :( CIA -ants Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jared.buck at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 20:58:21 2006 From: jared.buck at gmail.com (Jared Buck) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:58:21 -0800 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, I'll tell you, Linux is extremely safe and relatively virus-proof. Most hackers and virus-writers target Windoze and Macs rather than Linux simply because those OSes are not as secure. In my experience using various versions of Linux, I have never had any problems related to viruses or other things of nature. Yes, most Linuxes are geared towards techies, but I don't know if you've heard of the Ubuntu deriative Edubuntu - it's geared towards schools and education and may fit your nephews better than vanilla Ubuntu. There are some educational software applications that you can install from Add-Remove Software inside Ubuntu. Like Windows Ubuntu does require regular updates but it's not forced on you the way Windows makes you. Generally you SHOULD update whenever those are available but you can pick and choose what updates you want to install. If you're using the Gnome interface (which comes standard by the way) you'll get an alert notification at the top right of the screen whenever an update (or updates as the case may be) is available. There's a lot you can do with Ubuntu or any other Linux OS, i'd say it's infinitely more secure than any Windows platform. Jared On 12/4/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good info on > making Linux child safe for surfing. > > I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to be safe. > I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss from the beginning > rather than having to refine things regulary. > > I've seen using squidguard but that looks sdifficult to set up but I will > read into it more. > > In the meantime, any hints / tips / pointers would be great. > > Kids and computers is new to me :( > > CIA > > -ants > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From dontodd at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 21:08:58 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:08:58 -0500 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> Hi Anthony, On 12/4/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good info on > making Linux child safe for surfing. > > I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to be safe. > I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss from the beginning > rather than having to refine things regulary. > > I've seen using squidguard but that looks sdifficult to set up but I will > read into it more. When you say "child safe for surfing" I assume you're looking for a content filter? With the standard disclaimer that there's no substitute for education/personal responsibility, there is Dan's Guardian. Todd From dontodd at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 21:14:56 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:14:56 -0500 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612041314s703be7f5i962b60f20ebd7136@mail.gmail.com> On 12/4/06, Kristian Rink wrote: > Folks; > > looking for a slim, usable, portable music player to have some noise > handy whenever "on the road". Requirements: > > - needs to be capable of playing OGG, MP3 (and possibly FLAC?); > - a maximum of 2 GB memory (that should suffice for my needs); > - flash-memory, no hard drive; > - decent battery lifetime using "conventional" batteries/ rechargeables; > - Linux compatibility (usb-storage preferred). > > > Does anyone around here own a device like that and can recommend > spending money on it? :) I have a Samsung YP-MT6Z. This is likely discontinued by now, but it is very nice and runs forever on a single AA battery. 1GB holds more than enough of my oggs encoded at -q3. My only complaint is that it's not so "slim," it's actually kinda fat. Todd From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 21:20:18 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:20:18 -0800 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45749112.9040207@systemstheory.net> Todd Slater wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > On 12/4/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: >> Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good info on >> making Linux child safe for surfing. >> >> I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to be safe. >> I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss from the beginning >> rather than having to refine things regulary. >> >> I've seen using squidguard but that looks sdifficult to set up but I will >> read into it more. > > When you say "child safe for surfing" I assume you're looking for a > content filter? With the standard disclaimer that there's no > substitute for education/personal responsibility, there is Dan's > Guardian. > > Todd Thanks for that recommendation. As I plan moving my boys from Windows to Ubuntu this has been a topic of discussion with my wife. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 21:24:06 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:24:06 -0800 Subject: Creating an ISO image under ubuntu In-Reply-To: <45746965.6050907@gmail.com> References: <457395DA.2010305@systemstheory.net> <1165206002.29604.5.camel@chi> <4573A3D3.3040602@systemstheory.net> <45746965.6050907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <457491F6.4010300@systemstheory.net> Mitch Contla wrote: > sdavmor said the following on 12/03/2006 08:28 PM: >> Tom Brown wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:28 -0800, sdavmor wrote: >>> >>>> I want to know what program I should use to make an ISO image >>>> that I can then mount so that my VMWare virtual will see it as >>>> a data CD. >>>> >>> >>> I always use xcdroast. There are probably others out there you can use. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Tom >>> >> Thanks Tom. I'll give it a whirl. >> > If you are a CLI freak, you could do something like: > > $ mkisofs -r -o mynew.iso /path/to/my/files > > This would write all everything in the "files" directory to mynew.iso. I > think that's actually what xcdroast is doing. :) I'll make a note of this to test out in the future to see what happens. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Mon Dec 4 21:27:32 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:27:32 -0800 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> References: <1164351654.7412.7.camel@jonathan.logical.co.zw> <200611240651.27350.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <456CF012.9000707@systemstheory.net> <456CFAF1.5030506@fahrlander.net> <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457492C4.4020903@systemstheory.net> Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/4/06, Alex Mandel wrote: >> sdavmor wrote: >>> Brian Fahrlander wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> sdavmor wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm getting my family off Windows onto Ubuntu ASAP before they start >>>>> bugging me about upgrading them to Vista. Just a few Windows app >>>>> issues, but I think come January all that will be left will be my >>>>> kids' games and my music workstation (which will remain until the NET >>>>> 2.0 issues are solved for WINE). >>>> How about VMWare? I'll bet there's no .NET issues, there...WINE >>>> isn't trash, but VMWare's always been better. And now it's free, >>>> too.. >>> I imagine VMWare or QEMU will be the interim solution. Thanks for >>> pointing out VMWare's free option. I didn't know that was so. Learn >>> something new every day... >>> >>> Eventually I'd like any carryover apps to be integrated under WINE >>> rather than a virtual guest. Or better still replaced by an improved >>> native *nix app... ;-) >> FYI free VMWARE Server works. Qemu does not run windows. > > When you say QEMU doesn't run Windows, are you talking about Windows > Vista, right? Cause QEMU runs Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP > seamlessly. I'll revist QEMU in the future, but I had some issues getting it going, and never could get the accelerator working. For now VMWare seems to be more than adequate for those last few of apps I have to have. The overall performance on my desktop (AMD 64 3800+ with 2gb of DDR2 5400 memory) is pretty terrific. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From invenit at yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 21:42:40 2006 From: invenit at yahoo.com (Tony Brezovski) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:42:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Democracy Player for Dapper Message-ID: <594138.60655.qm@web53014.mail.yahoo.com> >>Are you trying to install the new .9.2? Democracy Player v0.8.4.1 works really great with Edgy. OTOH, I just downloaded v0.9.2.1 from Democracy Player's website and it installs fine, but it crashes frequently. Reinstalled v0.8.4.1 Tony ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com From funkytwig at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 21:56:27 2006 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:56:27 +0100 Subject: DVD Burning MultiSession Strangeness Message-ID: <32b873ff0612041356x7465bc8l90761ebf79cfc835@mail.gmail.com> I have been trying to burn multisession DVDs. Gnomebaker can create the initial session (I just do not finalise) but k3b can not create first session. Gnomebaker can not then read the session details (Action->Impoer session) so I have to use k3b to write subsequent sessions. I also have to run both as root. Any idea why this is, dont mind mutch whitch I use but would like to only use one. Regards, Ben -- Ben Edwards - Brussels & Bristol, UK, England If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Dec 4 21:39:25 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:39:25 -0300 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612041839.25527.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Monday 04 December 2006 18:08, my mailbox was graced by a missive from "Todd Slater" who wrote: > When you say "child safe for surfing" I assume you're looking for a > content filter? With the standard disclaimer that there's no > substitute for education/personal responsibility, there is Dan's > Guardian. I have been running DansGuardian on my IPCop firewall box, and it works perfectly to keep the little dears from unsuitable sites, while leaving Daddy and Mummy free to surf everywhere. Cheers, Ron. -- Paranoia is simply an optimistic outlook on life. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From chanweiyee at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 22:09:33 2006 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 06:09:33 +0800 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45749C9D.5030505@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/11/ubuntu-ce-v20-edgy-features.html Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com Anthony Gardner wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good > info on making Linux child safe for surfing. > > I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to > be safe. I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss > from the beginning rather than having to refine things regulary. > > I've seen using squidguard but that looks sdifficult to set up but I > will read into it more. > > In the meantime, any hints / tips / pointers would be great. > > Kids and computers is new to me :( > > CIA > > -ants > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRXScnC3vyuijoxbUAQM1Og/7BVDAPj0wy8Xm+FJdjy4fhTSIiwq9d6rF QQTnTGEZXf3SfoJTACzVGDWmTeNs9XZBPCvPKoBF0+rICPk7WPW+/HGLZnHNX+h5 rIRygnDj/RcdsCNB4/ooG5nuxWgMS2cCIOs/WOKMP5VvrVTrug5al1Qff9VpRg92 90k5ochFiJoO78u/XNI68as6qhCx78TpSBlwhzQHM8S3jg7Z3LAqSHVFJQUKFo27 0xX3h0lws7eO94EH8ZrXo9zkzdzIaX8o1+go27K/bL1bDJ6vepZhU4FaGNM3cskM LDUXEhWnVmQ87ZIJzBStj1pmrFxBv8cvcnUGmWoAq8KBnkScJV9GsqaWrQ+OOJua AqjA0GZszgIqWbPX4IEfngYXazqzaqCPcayS0GyUFRO7SUHF1QEZQ3Cr75uXcnwj igR5JWOXmxFahoxAudjngJSIcFZoklCdxlqAlR0fkGX1jj7hFubOFBD6cfe5qGOg xeYoaHVV8qEF+W63Ogzr+EcAA96sN5yzHUSu7UHQcYm/+s43HhS+VXZv7n0kC4a5 g4cMQLHL40jnLq41jTddaSNDL6MUR4kbq4LRDc1Zxn2mnqKY7eJCfnwTUAWPVGOJ wNx743sUSjpvQlZZcL8My7LY9r+x3MIyyLhIRtnZAt3q9svF9g9oF3HnMi5G1eYP H9YLWlSO8Dw= =ul2l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From elitepenguin at gmx.net Mon Dec 4 22:20:05 2006 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:20:05 +0100 Subject: Questions about beryl and AIGLX Message-ID: <2f30da460612041420q20f9642ehbe632880951dc12e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all I tried to install beryl on my laptop according to the Ubuntu wiki [1]. However I always ended up with: beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0 On my Laptop I have kde and the GPU is a Radeon 9200. DRI worked with the 'radeon' driver. A friend of mine got it working, but with GLX and the fglrx driver (he also has a newer ATI GPU, not sure which one). I was pretty much surprised that, according to the Ubuntu wiki, Beryl should work with the open source driver. Can anybody confirm that it works with the 'radeon' driver? Btw: I also tried to install Ubuntu Edgy from scratch on my Dell Dimension 9150 and X did not work. I remeber that it already not worked under Dapper (but I think I reported a bug..) However, I'm disapointed that Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box on such a common machine. Will report a more detailed bug report when I have more time. Nils --- [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy From marco.mandl at gmx.at Mon Dec 4 22:33:44 2006 From: marco.mandl at gmx.at (Marco Mandl) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:33:44 +0100 Subject: can't get static ip Message-ID: Hello, I'm connected to the Internet via umts and mobile network. Now I want to connect my printer via lan. Therefore I configured the wired connection in Network Settings with a 192.168. ip and the subnet mask. But when I plug in the cable the machine starts the dhcp client and requests a dynamic ip. After a while it reports a successful connection and the ip is set to 169.something. What is wrong? Regards, Marco From ben at cvrse.com Mon Dec 4 22:39:31 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:39:31 +1100 Subject: nm-applet / Gnome Network Manager: How to stop it from connecting to networks I don't want In-Reply-To: <1165215547.5868.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165215547.5868.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <20061204223931.GA27702@rip.cvrse.com> * Chanchao wrote: > Can anyone explain what the relation is between nm-applet (Gnome Network > Manager) and "Network Monitor" ? Both are panel applets and they seem > to overlap and interfere with each other. network monitor shows the status of the interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces and allows you to modify them, network manager deals with the interfaces NOT configured in that file. > nm-applet does a GREAT job connecting to wireless networks. In fact it > works TOO good.. it also connects to any random wireless access point > that's unencrypted, and then configures DNS for me, taking it away from > my regular office fixed LAN network. I don't want it to do that! > > I only want it to connect to my home wifi network when I'm at home, and > leave me alone when I'm at the office and using the regular LAN. does your office LAN use DHCP or require you to have a static IP? if its DHCP you just need to remove/comment the lines from your interfaces file that refer to your nic and once you plug into the LAN it'll automatically choose the fixed over wireless and connect to your office LAN. if your office is using static IP's then you'll have to configure the wired NIC manually and then just disable wireless (right click nm-applet uncheck enable wireless) when your in the office. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(I use static IPs on all of my personal devices but still run a DHCP server for my roommates' X-Boxes and laptops.) -Abe -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Marco Mandl Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:34 PM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: can't get static ip Hello, I'm connected to the Internet via umts and mobile network. Now I want to connect my printer via lan. Therefore I configured the wired connection in Network Settings with a 192.168. ip and the subnet mask. But when I plug in the cable the machine starts the dhcp client and requests a dynamic ip. After a while it reports a successful connection and the ip is set to 169.something. What is wrong? Regards, Marco -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From slewin at rogers.com Mon Dec 4 22:57:11 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:57:11 -0500 Subject: Democracy Player for Dapper In-Reply-To: <594138.60655.qm@web53014.mail.yahoo.com> References: <594138.60655.qm@web53014.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4574A7C7.70507@rogers.com> Tony Brezovski wrote: >>> Are you trying to install the new .9.2? > > Democracy Player v0.8.4.1 works really great with > Edgy. OTOH, I just downloaded v0.9.2.1 from Democracy > Player's website and it installs fine, but it crashes > frequently. Reinstalled v0.8.4.1 I just installed the v0.9.2.1-1 for Ubuntu, I will keep an eye out for the crashes. I know when I was using the v0.9.1 for Ubuntu it would always crash when I pressed the back button in the channel guide. I submitted a bug report to the Democracy guys, so, hopefully they will have that fixed soon. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux Kubuntu 6.10 system EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From slewin at rogers.com Mon Dec 4 22:59:30 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:59:30 -0500 Subject: Democracyplayer for Dapper? In-Reply-To: <45747115.3080605@systemstheory.net> References: <45747115.3080605@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <4574A852.5090906@rogers.com> sdavmor wrote: > Never heard of it until now. But after taking a look at the link I'll > definitely give it a test drive. Democracy player is great. I first herd about it on a tech show from Toronto called Call for help. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux Kubuntu 6.10 system EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From marco.mandl at gmx.at Mon Dec 4 23:30:04 2006 From: marco.mandl at gmx.at (Marco Mandl) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:30:04 +0100 Subject: can't get static ip References: Message-ID: On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:50:09 -0800, Abraham Rolick wrote: > It sounds like you're not actually receiving a dynamic IP from a DHCP > server. Cards will resort to this 169.x.y.z address you speak of if > they don't hear a DHCP offer soon enough. I don't want to make use of a DHCP server. I want to set a static IP - actually I did it but it seems to be ignored. /m From jd at commandprompt.com Tue Dec 5 00:45:16 2006 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:45:16 -0800 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <200612041839.25527.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9421dc6f0612041308p79a5b738m8426b8e694ac1467@mail.gmail.com> <200612041839.25527.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1165279516.18093.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:39 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > On Monday 04 December 2006 18:08, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from "Todd Slater" who wrote: > > > When you say "child safe for surfing" I assume you're looking for a > > content filter? With the standard disclaimer that there's no > > substitute for education/personal responsibility, there is Dan's > > Guardian. > > I have been running DansGuardian on my IPCop firewall box, and it works > perfectly to keep the little dears from unsuitable sites, while leaving Daddy > and Mummy free to surf everywhere. http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html > > Cheers, > > Ron. > -- > Paranoia is simply > an optimistic outlook on life. > > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- > > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From garryknight at gmx.net Tue Dec 5 00:44:54 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:44:54 +0000 Subject: Partition size problem Message-ID: Before I installed Ubuntu recently, I used the Suse partitioner to remove my hda8 and resize hda7 before recreating hda8. Suse is on hda7 and Ubuntu is now on hda8. (I used the Suse partitioner because that's what I already had installed.) When I boot into Ubuntu, I get the following messages: /dev/hda7: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3933916 blocks. The physical size of the device is 3933909 blocks. Either the superblock or the partition is likely to be corrupt! I tried running a manual fsck as suggested but the problem remains. And if the superblock doesn't reflect the actual size of the disk, presumably neither will the copies. Does anyone know the best way to fix this? -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From veritastic at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 03:42:43 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:42:43 -0500 Subject: Window control Message-ID: <1165290163.4800.1.camel@chris> Heya all, So, I read somewhere today about the amazing control one has over the style, opacity, etc of the desktop and windows involved. However, being a complete linux moron, I have no idea how to affect such changes. Anyone care to indoctrinate me into this secret club? And possibly walk me through it as any mistakes I make are sure to be legendary? Chris From sundar.personal at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 04:00:56 2006 From: sundar.personal at gmail.com (Sundar Nagarajan) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:00:56 -0800 Subject: Upgrade to Dapper on production server In-Reply-To: <1165157458.5848.264.camel@localhost> References: <1165157458.5848.264.camel@localhost> Message-ID: John Dangler wrote: > I don't know if this message went through to the group, so at the risk > of dupes, I'll re-post. > I have a LAMP server currently running 5.10, and would like to upgrade > this to Dapper. I do not have direct access to the server (SSH/FTP > only). Has anyone here done this that would be willing to give me some > direction on this? I would expect that I would need to take a snapshot > of the entire system, change the apt sources to dapper, and then run > apt-get dist-upgrade, but I am concerned about the configuration of > Apache, bind, dns, clam, mysql, etc. changing when the upgrades are > complete. > > (Ultimately I would like to have this upgrade also run php5/mysql5) > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > I had Breezy 5.10 on a box - that admittedly was _not_ a _production_ box, but my trusty desktop. But I did have Apache, MySQL, PHP configured and working on it. I did just what you wrote - change /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get dist-upgrade - and it worked FINE. From ubuntu at myvirtualemail.biz Tue Dec 5 04:30:47 2006 From: ubuntu at myvirtualemail.biz (Ronald Bradford) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:30:47 -0500 Subject: 6.10 Edgy Wireless not connecting after travelling and using other networks Message-ID: <4574F5F7.6050705@myvirtualemail.biz> Hi, I'm desperately seeking help with my wireless configuration Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy. In summary it was working on my home network, but after travel which included an attempt to install WPA, and still being able to access other wireless connections I've returned home but am unable to connect. A summary of things I've done. * I can confirm that my wireless in my Lenovo T60 is functioning under Windoze and the router is correctly configured, including other devices in the household working * I have reviewed the docs WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo), WifiDocs/WPAHowTo (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo) and WifiDocs/WiFiTroubleshooting (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiTroubleshooting) * I have removed wpasupplicant, which is what I did to try to get WPA working * Things appear to be configured correctly, it seems to have a problem with DHCP discovery, yet it works find for my wired connection * I have tried harcoding my IP & Gateway to correct settings without success. If somebody can please point me to what I hope is a stupid configuration somewhere it would be greatly appreciated. Here is details of my configuration I hope will pinpoint a problem $ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. irda0 no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 unassociated ESSID:"dlinkjersey" Mode:Managed Frequency=2.462 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate:0 kb/s Tx-Power:16 dBm Retry limit:15 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:9380-438A-BC Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:9316 Missed beacon:0 sit0 no wireless extensions. vmnet8 no wireless extensions. vmnet1 no wireless extensions. $ ifup eth0 There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 134993416 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eth0/00:15:58:31:67:d9 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:15:58:31:67:d9 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPOFFER from 172.16.1.1 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 172.16.1.1 bound to 172.16.1.59 -- renewal in 345 seconds. $ ifup eth1 There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 134993416 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eth1/00:18:de:19:f1:73 Sending on LPF/eth1/00:18:de:19:f1:73 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 ^C $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:58:31:67:D9 inet addr:172.16.1.59 Bcast:172.16.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe31:67d9/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4618 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3617 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:4547510 (4.3 MiB) TX bytes:486792 (475.3 KiB) Base address:0x3000 Memory:ee000000-ee020000 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:DE:19:F1:73 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:36374 errors:107 dropped:9544 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:32299 (31.5 KiB) TX bytes:7786 (7.6 KiB) Interrupt:66 Base address:0x4000 Memory:edf00000-edf00fff $ netstat -arn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.82.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 vmnet1 192.168.231.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 vmnet8 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 172.16.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 $ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp wireless-essid dlinkjersey wireless-key xxxxxxx auto eth0 Regards Ronald From ljpino at grm.net Tue Dec 5 04:33:44 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:33:44 -0600 Subject: Window control In-Reply-To: <1165290163.4800.1.camel@chris> References: <1165290163.4800.1.camel@chris> Message-ID: <4574F6A8.6030308@grm.net> Chris Rohde wrote: > Heya all, > So, I read somewhere today about the amazing control one has over the > style, opacity, etc of the desktop and windows involved. However, being > a complete linux moron, I have no idea how to affect such changes. > Anyone care to indoctrinate me into this secret club? And possibly walk > me through it as any mistakes I make are sure to be legendary? > > Chris > > > Mistakes are in the eye of the beholder? Try System>Preferences, then play with the settings under Windows, Themes, Menus & Toolbars, and Fonts. Then you could right click on your panels and play with the properties. Just don't delete the panel until you are confident on how to make another one! If you are afraid of really screwing things up, create another user, and mess with the settings there. However, you should be just fine in your own. One thing to remember is that you can really make your system memory intensive with some options. (So it may not be ideal to have 16 virtual desktops with individual wallpaper.) Good Luck. ~Lorin From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Tue Dec 5 04:35:50 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:05:50 +0530 Subject: windows vista Message-ID: It means for QEMU you need a valid licence of Windows right . . . That is why I am very big supporter of WINE as it does not ask you to pay to M$ for a valid licence. It is not at its best but is improving . . . while the paid service of crossoverlinux is much better and would come much cheaper as compared to windows . . . I know you might have checked out with the crossover guys . . . >> When you say QEMU doesn't run Windows, are you talking about Windows >> Vista, right? Cause QEMU runs Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP >> seamlessly. > >I'll revist QEMU in the future, but I had some issues getting it >going, and never could get the accelerator working. For now VMWare >seems to be more than adequate for those last few of apps I have to >have. The overall performance on my desktop (AMD 64 3800+ with 2gb >of DDR2 5400 memory) is pretty terrific. >-- >Cheers, >SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man >Systems Theory internet music project links: >official site >soundclick >garageband >"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 >"Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 >NP: nothing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Tue Dec 5 04:42:03 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:12:03 +0530 Subject: how to download through windows Message-ID: I have similar issue with PCMCIA modem but What is Ispci . . ? > > > > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:07:54 +0200 From: "Amichai Rotman" Subject: Re: how to download through windows To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nobody addressed the real question: How to get the modem to work under Kubuntu... 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From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Tue Dec 5 05:50:01 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 06:50:01 +0100 Subject: Window control In-Reply-To: <1165290163.4800.1.camel@chris> References: <1165290163.4800.1.camel@chris> Message-ID: <1165297801.5712.171.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 22:42 -0500, Chris Rohde wrote: > Anyone care to indoctrinate me into this secret club? You have basically three options: 1. Change the default Ubuntu interface Ubuntu uses Gnome as desktop environment and Metacity as window manager. To change those, first go to menu System/Peeferences and play with Theme, Keyboard Shortcuts, Menus & Toolbars, etc. There are many more settings available through the configuration editor: press Alt+F2 to bring up the run dialog, type gconf-editor, and run it. Click yourself through the tree on the left, e.g., starting with /apps/metacity. Be careful with gconf-editor 2. Choose a different desktop environment and/or window manager There is a huge variety available that often work completely differently from what you are used to, for example Ion: http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ For an overview, see http://xwinman.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager Most can be simply installed in Ubuntu, then you log out and choose it from the Session menu on the login screen. KDE and xfce are used by the Ubuntu variants Kubuntu and Xubuntu, but you can install them easily from Ubuntu (however, doing this might make the next upgrade to a new Ubuntu release harder; at least the Ubunti CTO said so on a mailing list once) 3. Go with very new approaches that use 3D-acceleration: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Dec 5 05:57:19 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 02:57:19 -0300 Subject: Kmail font problem. In-Reply-To: <200612051640.38985.anthonyscott@comcen.com.au> References: <200612051640.38985.anthonyscott@comcen.com.au> Message-ID: <200612050257.19809.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 02:40, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Anthony Scott who wrote: > Can anyone explain why the following strange implementation of 'Major' > happens in the email heading in Kmail. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Today's Headlines: Rumsfeld Memo on Iraq Proposed 'Major´ Change ´ is the internal HTML representation of an acute accent, probably used here as the second quote mark around the word "major". Someone, somewhere, has a defective HTML parser. Cheers, Ron. -- Paranoia is simply an optimistic outlook on life. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Tue Dec 5 06:29:38 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:59:38 +0530 Subject: ubuntu proxy server Message-ID: Friends Sorry for my ignorance; I want to setup a proxy server using ubuntu. How do I do that ? Also is it possible to do it using live CD . . ? Yagnesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Dec 5 07:11:18 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:11:18 +0200 Subject: how to download through windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: lspci - List PCI devices - just open a terminal and run the command, then copy and paste it in a msg - this way we'll know your modem's chipset and will be able to find the right driver for you. PCMCIA (or PC Card) hardware is managed by the pcmcia services.... Send us the data and we'll be able to check it out... Amichai On 12/5/06, YAGNESH N DESAI wrote: > > I have similar issue with PCMCIA modem > but What is Ispci . . ? > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:07:54 +0200 > From: "Amichai Rotman" > Subject: Re: how to download through windows > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Nobody addressed the real question: How to get the modem to work under > Kubuntu... > > Which modem do you have? > > Send us your lspci and I'll try to figure it out... > > Amichai > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- :====================================================:. 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How do I do that ? I did that on a vanilla Ubuntu 6.10 server recently. The process was simple and straight-forward. First I installed squid (http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/squid). Next I tweaked squid.conf a little. The config-file is very self-documenting. There were a few things I needed to change, like allowing all users on the local LAN, min and max size of cached objects and the total size of the cache on disk. Nothing complicated. When tested it worked on the first go. Turns out squid starts automatically after a boot, so you can install, configure and forget about it. > Also is it possible to do it using live CD . . ? If you mean "Install a system to harddisk from the live CD and then add squid", yes it's absolutely possible. If you mean "run the entire server with squid off a live CD" I doubt it. At least I guess you will have to remaster a live CD for this. Good luck, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From kristian at zimmer428.net Tue Dec 5 07:28:26 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:28:26 +0100 Subject: [semi-OT] mobile OGG - player recommendation? In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612041314s703be7f5i962b60f20ebd7136@mail.gmail.com> References: <457473C4.8010401@zimmer428.net> <9421dc6f0612041314s703be7f5i962b60f20ebd7136@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45751F9A.6080108@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Todd (and all the others who posted to this); and first off thanks for all your hints, which really have been valuable to me. Todd Slater schrieb: > I have a Samsung YP-MT6Z. This is likely discontinued by now, but it For what I see, as most people are to recommend some sort of Samsung device, guess that's what I will be ending up with - they seem to be both in terms of features and pricing closest to what I need. Thanks a lot everyone! :) Cheers, Kris - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdR+ZcxBAPOA1m6wRAginAKCnq1m1+ydvrQxh9K50IRVduW0NUgCfbggQ 2rR82qrQ0F942/NelIe12jg= =GEw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 09:16:53 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 01:16:53 -0800 Subject: Two Web 2.0 development projects that may cause trouble for Linux desktops Message-ID: Two upcoming challenges for the open source desktop (one from Microsoft and one from Adobe): http://news.com.com/1606-2-6133862.html?tag=st.rb http://news.com.com/Microsofts+designs+on+Adobes+turf/2100-1007_3-6140620.html?tag=st.txt.caro An Excerpt: "Also on Monday, the software maker put out an early community technology preview of Windows Presentation Foundation/Everywhere (WPF/E). It said that Version 1 will be available in the first half of next year. Like Adobe's Flash player, WPF/E software is a download for running Web applications with media such as video and graphics. WPF/E will run on several Web browsers: Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Mozilla's Firefox for Windows and Mac OS, and Apple Computer's Safari." Notice that Firefox on Linux is missing. Hopefully we'll find a way to work with these new forms of content. Miles From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Tue Dec 5 09:54:38 2006 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:54:38 +0000 Subject: open office documents Message-ID: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved by default? I ask because I want to keep my files tidyer than on my Windows PC and I don't want things floating around everywhere which may be a problem for someone with no Sight. From Gilles at Gravier.org Tue Dec 5 10:08:12 2006 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:08:12 +0100 Subject: open office documents In-Reply-To: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> References: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4575450C.9010703@Gravier.org> They should be by default in $HOME/Documents for example... Gilles. MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved > by default? > I ask because I want to keep my files tidyer than on my Windows PC and I > don't want things floating around everywhere which may be a problem for > someone with no Sight. > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From almilis at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 10:16:13 2006 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:16:13 +0700 Subject: OpenOffice.org: Default Paper Size? In-Reply-To: <1164872246.9008.28.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <36135600611292104i301d0550i283b7a34c6e7a5c2@mail.gmail.com> <456E6889.5030200@grm.net> <1164872246.9008.28.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <36135600612050216h333bf08dwf28dfd1c9cd7f65a@mail.gmail.com> Chanchao wrote: >>> May I know, where to set the OpenOffice.org default paper size >>> to ''A4''? It seems that the printer default size is already A4; >>> however Ooo default is still "letter". >> Have you tried Format>Page Style>Page tab? > That's the first step, indeed. After that, to make sure it comes up as > the default, save the document as the default template. Aha! Thank you! Now I know what the problem is. It means that there is no debconf magic to set it automatically. Or is this a bug? regards, -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From carlos at unplugd.com Tue Dec 5 10:21:43 2006 From: carlos at unplugd.com (Samps) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:51:43 +1030 Subject: open office documents In-Reply-To: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> References: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200612052051.44365.carlos@unplugd.com> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:24, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved > by default? Have a look. When you save a document, OpenOffice will show you the intended 'save' location in its save dialogue. If you want to change this setting, you can do so from within OpenOffice; from the 'Tools' menu, choose 'options', then 'OpenOffice.org', 'Path' and change the path for 'My Documents'. Samps From tchize at myrealbox.com Tue Dec 5 10:54:38 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:54:38 +0100 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45754FEE.2060201@myrealbox.com> Not really true. While wine doesn't require a windows licence to run, most software you might run under wine could require something like IE installed, DCOM, .net, and so on. But when you install such components that are provided as windows upgrades (downloaded from Microsoft web site) those components tells you in their EULA (at least some of them) that you need to own a valid windows licence to install them. I checked, IE and DCOM require a valid windows licence, .NET framework, which more and more application requires, need IE to run example extract from ie6 installer: IMPORTANT: READ CAREFULLY - These Microsoft operating system components, including any "online" or electronic documentation ("OS Components") are subject to the terms and conditions of the agreement under which you have licensed the applicable Microsoft operating system product ("OS Product") NOTE: IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000, MICROSOFT MILLENNIUM EDITION, MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP, OR ANY OTHER MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEM THAT IS A SUCCESSOR TO ANY OF THE FOREGOING OPERATING SYSTEMS) YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA. YAGNESH N DESAI a écrit : > It means for QEMU you need a valid licence of > Windows right . . . > > That is why I am very big supporter of WINE as it does not > ask you to pay to M$ for a valid licence. > > It is not at its best but is improving . . . while the paid service > of crossoverlinux is much better and would come much cheaper > as compared to windows . . . > > I know you might have checked out with the crossover guys . . . > > >> When you say QEMU doesn't run Windows, are you talking about Windows > >> Vista, right? Cause QEMU runs Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP > >> seamlessly. > > > >I'll revist QEMU in the future, but I had some issues getting it > >going, and never could get the accelerator working. For now VMWare > >seems to be more than adequate for those last few of apps I have to > >have. The overall performance on my desktop (AMD 64 3800+ with 2gb > >of DDR2 5400 memory) is pretty terrific. > >-- > >Cheers, > >SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man > >Systems Theory internet music project links: > >official site > > >soundclick > > >garageband > > >"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 > >"Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 > >NP: nothing From Jamie.Kerwick at benenden.org.uk Tue Dec 5 10:53:47 2006 From: Jamie.Kerwick at benenden.org.uk (Jamie Kerwick) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:53:47 -0000 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations Message-ID: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> Hi there, I have a home network setup with Ubuntu acting as a server, and with several Windows XP machines (& soon 1 edubuntu PC for the kids!). I am looking at buying a cheapish Colour Laser printer which will be networked via the Ubuntu server. I am looking to spend in the region of £150-£200 does anyone have any recommendations for printers (or suppliers UK based). I have read that some Samsung Laser printers have driver issues on Ubuntu, does this matter if the clients are using XP?? Thanks, Jamie ************** E-mail Disclaimer ************** This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee, please reply to the sender and then delete the message from your computer. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views or opinions of The Benenden Healthcare Society Limited. You should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Benenden Healthcare Society Limited accepts no liability for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail or its attachments. 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In-Reply-To: <36135600612010700q63b12f93u4a8cfc079faf903d@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600612010700q63b12f93u4a8cfc079faf903d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36135600612050411n7f31402dgdf12d2e2e9b4d5e8@mail.gmail.com> > Is there anyway to get the complete address book by using > SCMXX? I tried, "scmxx --get --pbook --mem VCF -o testing" > but got only the names and phone numbers. Too bad, there is no answer for this. See also: http://ma2geo.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de/pipermail/scmxx-users/2005-June/000803.html http://ma2geo.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de/pipermail/scmxx-users/2005-November/000864.html -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From jarregui at safa.es Tue Dec 5 12:40:06 2006 From: jarregui at safa.es (Javier Arregui) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:40:06 +0100 Subject: Evolution with IMAP and HTML Outlook emails: format lost Message-ID: <1165322406.29495.17.camel@localhost> Hi, I'm not able to correctly see within Evolution any HTML-formatted message generated from Outlook, stored in an Exchange server, and retrieved with the IMAP protocol. It always shows them as text messages. I've dumped the traffic with ethereal and I see that my laptop receives the mail as text, not as HTML; I can see in the dump "content: text/plain" and no html markup at all, but pure ascii text. I don't know where the problem is. I've done the following test: * Generate an HTML message from Evolution to my own account in Exchange. * Receive this message in Evolution: the format is Ok, and I can see "content-type: multipart/alternative" and "content-type: text/html" in the traffic dump. So, evolution is able to receive html messages from the Exchange server using IMAP. * Reply that message from within Outlook to my own account again. * Receive that new email in Evolution: format is, again, text. I've reproduced the same effect with POP, and I cannot use the exchange plugin as the Exchange version is 5.5, which is not supported. So, I don't know any workaround to the problem. Any hint? Thanks, Javier From norman at littletank.org Tue Dec 5 12:45:22 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:45:22 +0000 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> Message-ID: <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> > > > > I am looking to spend in the region of £150-£200 does anyone have any > recommendations for printers (or suppliers UK based). > I have seen an HP Laserjet colour printer for less than £200. Is that of any interest? Norman From Gilles at Gravier.org Tue Dec 5 12:51:43 2006 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:51:43 +0100 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> Why do you need a LASER printer? Why not an ink jet? Supplies tend to be cheaper for ink jet... and photo rendering is light years better on an ink jet. Do you have a specific need that requires laser rather than ink jet? Gilles. norman wrote: >> >> I am looking to spend in the region of £150-£200 does anyone have any >> recommendations for printers (or suppliers UK based). >> >> > > I have seen an HP Laserjet colour printer for less than £200. Is that of > any interest? > > Norman > > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: (Matthew Clarke's message of "Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:17:13 -0500") References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <87psaz89ma.fsf@spamfence.net> "Matthew Clarke" wrote: > thanks for the troubleshooting on this! > > however, I'm now showing some missing package dependencies: > > personal-hygiene Isn't apt-cache clean enough? > karisma (KDE package?) I don't like KDE. Does somebody know an Gnome replacement for kernel? > small-talk I have enought space to install the real talk > dance-moves There's pydance Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Tue Dec 5 00:36:39 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:36:39 +0100 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> (Peter Garrett's message of "Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:47:08 +1100") References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <2cfc2c9f0612021043h528c5d76q4b47bf17358de41d@mail.gmail.com> <20061203074708.f4251392.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <87lkln89go.fsf@spamfence.net> Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:43:16 +0100 > "Adriano Varoli Piazza" wrote: > >> On 12/2/06, Florian Diesch wrote: >> > Chanchao wrote: >> > > to do is pull the plug, save power & fans, and smell the clear breeze >> > > outside. > > $ sudo apt-get install life > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package life Ubuntu has a graphical version of it, just install xlife Florian -- From a24061 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 12:57:14 2006 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:57:14 +0000 Subject: emacs & xfontsel: "Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font" References: <389743589.20061109153731@rotursoft.sk> Message-ID: On 2006-11-09, Roland Turcan wrote: > AF> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now when I run emacs as an X > AF> application (i.e. not in the console or xterm) I see only boxes. When > AF> I run it from (but not in) xterm I get the following errors, and > AF> something similar from xfontsel: > I don't know if it helps you, but in our cases with locale problems > this command is the solution: > > sudo locale-gen de_DE > > of course, exchange our language and contry in command. It turns out this (bug # 70740) is a duplicate of bug #63408 (which also has duplicates #73602 and probably #35330). I fixed it by adding some FontPath lines to xorg.conf. From slewin at rogers.com Tue Dec 5 13:33:56 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:33:56 -0500 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> Message-ID: <45757544.2070904@rogers.com> Jamie Kerwick wrote: > I am looking at buying a cheapish Colour Laser printer which will be > networked via the Ubuntu server. I would suggest going to http://www.linuxprinting.org/. It haves a nice list of working printers and some advice on selecting printer. You can not usually go wrong with HP, especially with laser printers. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux Kubuntu 6.10 system EnGarde! Death with Honour http://www.engarde.phy.ca From karim at sarai.net Tue Dec 5 13:41:04 2006 From: karim at sarai.net (Aniruddha Shankar) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:11:04 +0530 Subject: m17n-lib deb required Message-ID: <457576F0.2080208@sarai.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, all. I'm trying to get skim + scim + m17n-lib to work on Kubuntu Edgy. One major issue that was present was the inability to use scim+m17n-lib with Firefox and Openoffice.org . This has been fixed ( http://www.scim-im.org/news/imengines_news/scim_m17n_0_2_2 ) in m17n-lib 0.2.2, but this is not available in the package repositories. 1. Can some kind soul a) Create a .deb for m17n-lib and tell the list where they've uploaded it? b) Tell us how they created the .deb ? I installed build-essential and checkinstall, went to the directory where I'd untargzed it and ran ./configure - which failed, complaining that it couldn't find scim. Alternately, assistance on how to continue from there onward (passing special flags to configure and the like) would also be appreciated. 2. Can this version of the package be accepted in the ubuntu repository? Cheers, Aniruddha Shankar -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdXbwhJkrd6A3rSsRAjVfAKCuho7vZRtQhIQkbrYdbrTIB4hMqwCfXBiW vxNltei8MoadGpeDEvNpKhM= =enE6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mike_po at streamyx.com Tue Dec 5 13:29:39 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:29:39 +0800 Subject: cisco aironet 350 In-Reply-To: <457435B0.6040209@streamyx.com> References: <457435B0.6040209@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <45757443.2010500@streamyx.com> Hi, I have tried both ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 Why only kubuntu can connect using cisco? How to make ubuntu recognise cisco aironet 350 wifi card? How do I set such that kubuntu will connect to wifi automatically once login? Is ubuntu and kubuntu 6.10 edgy better at recognise the cisco card? From haniganwork at earthlik.net Tue Dec 5 14:50:53 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:50:53 -0600 Subject: open office documents In-Reply-To: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> References: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1165330253.20067.2.camel@star> You can choose where they save by going to tools options Paths. The same default is then used for all open office documents, the original setup puts them in your home directory Linda On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:54 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved > by default? From Jamie.Kerwick at benenden.org.uk Tue Dec 5 15:11:50 2006 From: Jamie.Kerwick at benenden.org.uk (Jamie Kerwick) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:11:50 -0000 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB7B@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> HP seems to be the best option, what model was it you saw and where ?? I have been looking at HP2600N or a HP2700 for a little over £200. I'm not sure of the major differences between the 2 though. Apart from the 2600N having built in network. The 2700 seems quicker, but is it a better quality ?? Thanks, Jamie -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of norman Sent: 05 December 2006 12:45 To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Colour Laserprinter recommendations > > > > I am looking to spend in the region of £150-£200 does anyone have any > recommendations for printers (or suppliers UK based). > I have seen an HP Laserjet colour printer for less than £200. Is that of any interest? Norman -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users ************** E-mail Disclaimer ************** This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee, please reply to the sender and then delete the message from your computer. 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Tel: 0845 052 5700 Fax: 0845 052 5822 www.benenden.org.uk From gcvisel at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 15:17:38 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:17:38 -0600 Subject: open office documents In-Reply-To: <1165330253.20067.2.camel@star> References: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> <1165330253.20067.2.camel@star> Message-ID: <76800d9c0612050717k1e32f491wf55c283f85345e10@mail.gmail.com> I set my Path to the same as where I had saved docs on my Winders partition, and even saved them in MS98 format for easy interchangeability when sharing. Gerry On 12/5/06, Linda Hanigan wrote: > You can choose where they save by going to tools options Paths. The same > default is then used for all open office documents, the original setup > puts them in your home directory > > Linda > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:54 +0000, MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > > When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved > > by default? From diesch at spamfence.net Tue Dec 5 15:29:45 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:29:45 +0100 Subject: script permissions - error while comparing DVD file In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20061204153337.01ff8680@pop.mich.com> (Dave M.'s message of "Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:38:36 -0500") References: <4.2.2.20061204153337.01ff8680@pop.mich.com> Message-ID: <87r6ve1hue.fsf@spamfence.net> Dave M wrote: > Ubuntu v6.06 > > I am trying to use a bash script to compare a file on a DVD to a file on > my hard disk. > > The command: > cmp /media/cdrom0/file1.junk /home/user/file1.junk > > The permissions for /media/cdrom0/file1.junk are: > Permissions -r--r--r-- > > The permissions for /home/user/file1.junk are: > Permissions -rw-r--r-- > > The error: > TestScript.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/file1.junk: Permission denied This looks like you try to execute /media/cdrom0/file1.junk. If cmp can't open the file the msg would look like cmp: /media/cdrom0/file1.junk: Permission denied How exactly does line 86 of TestScript.sh look? Florian -- From Cristian.Chifor at ge.com Tue Dec 5 15:32:22 2006 From: Cristian.Chifor at ge.com (Chifor, Cristian (GE Healthcare, consultant)) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:32:22 +0100 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0610271923u489d16dek2d761104b3ffa551@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Cybe, I strongly agree with Roger. I am also a sinner but I have repented before God [recognized my sinful life]...I apologize that this subject does not apply to tech topics from the list...I am a programmer, loving technology, and Linux Ubuntu, and all, but still, I feel that is my duty to share with you this aspect of Christian belief, my belief, as Roger did. Hope this doesn't upset anybody, but my opinion is that as we all use to share issues we face with technology, and give solutions, in the same manner we, as human beings, must share a solution for our "virus infected" spiritual life... I know that in this mailing list there are Indians too, Muslims, Budists [a big applause for all!]etc. and I want just to say hi, to a Indian friend of mine, who is a Muslim, and now I miss him because he is far away back to Mumbai... Why I miss him ? Because we managed to develop a strong professional relationship [he is a Java programmer] in spite of our beliefs and habits, above all, we are human, and we care about each other. I care about you Cybe, even if I don't know you... $ man holy bible [you get me ;)] Best regards, Cristian Chifor ________________________________ From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Roger Neth Jr Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:24 AM To: Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions Subject: Re: Back to Windows... On 10/27/06, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:"Roger Neth Jr" < baypos at gmail.com > said: > Doesn't anybody read the Holy Bible anymore? >Why do Christians think they're the only people in the world? >Cybe R. Wizard -- >Beliefs are the diluting ice cubes in the chilled chardonnay of >experience. > Zorg Hello Cybe, thanks for your reply and I don't think that at all. In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 Jesus was God in the flesh. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father (God), but by me. John 14:6 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Romans 2:4-5 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17 I love everyone and don't condemn nor judge as I am also a sinner. What I do is show people (by holy scripture) that there are consequences (spiritual) for their actions. I was the same way before I started studying the Holy Bible. I thank God that He shows us through His Word how to live! Everyone has an opportunity to repent (turn from) and confess their sins to God in Heaven through His Holy Son Jesus Christ to become their Lord and Saviour. But how would anyone know this if no one told them? How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? Romans 10:14 I love you Cybe and God loves you even more than I do. The Holy Bible Rocks! Study it and find the richness of the Truth! http://www.blueletterbible.org/index.html God Bless you and have a good weekend! Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am also a sinner but I have > repented before God [recognized my sinful life]...I apologize that this > subject does not apply to tech topics from the list...I am a programmer, > loving technology, and Linux Ubuntu, and all, but still, I feel that is > my duty to share with you this aspect of Christian belief, my belief, as > Roger did. > > > > Hope this doesn't upset anybody, but my opinion is that as we all use to > share issues we face with technology, and give solutions, in the same > manner we, as human beings, must share a solution for our "virus > infected" spiritual life... > > > > I know that in this mailing list there are Indians too, Muslims, Budists > [a big applause for all!]etc. and I want just to say hi, to a Indian > friend of mine, who is a Muslim, and now I miss him because he is far > away back to Mumbai... Why I miss him ? Because we managed to develop a > strong professional relationship [he is a Java programmer] in spite of > our beliefs and habits, above all, we are human, and we care about each > other. > > > > I care about you Cybe, even if I don't know you... > > > > $ man holy bible [you get me ;)] Yep, Christian here, too. Interesting that it seems *almost* the only religion everyone hates. That's key, I believe. And why do people think choice of our religion is like rooting for a football team? Well, I hope this doesn't drag the list so far off topic it's measured in exponential notation... :/ ...and now back to our show! :) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdZaR6PLtRzZbdhYRAretAJ9KP7wtqQbZ+e5LTShbP9/SBcImkACfQ8Pz z1qYktLrSK5aj4v6hVPmxQA= =+7t1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 17:03:58 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:03:58 -0600 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: References: <731b056b0610271923u489d16dek2d761104b3ffa551@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061205110358.30f19630@WizardsTower> "Chifor, Cristian \(GE Healthcare, consultant\)" said: > Cybe, I strongly agree with Roger. Gee, that's nice. Why brag about it here? Take it to Sounder where I'll reply if you'd like. Cybe R. Wizard -- "Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true." Friedrich Nietzsche From wandoolion at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 17:35:56 2006 From: wandoolion at yahoo.com (wandoo abbas) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:35:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS Message-ID: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi there, i'm a new user of linux and i thought of trying one of the linux-based OS's.so,i ordered free shipit ubuntu CDs(ubuntu ver.6.06 LTS-dapper drake,desktop version) and i've just got them a week ago.but alas,i was forbidden the linux experience by an error message saying "no screen found".i don't know what to do.if you know a solution,please help. this is what happened in detail.i inserted the CD and the ubuntu installation menu appeared.as you know,there are two options:the "start or install ubuntu" and the "start ubuntu in graphics mode" options.when choosing the first option,it started loading files and then opened a black screen with two white cursors alittle apart from each other.i touched every key plus ctrl+alt+F1 but nothing happened.then i restarted the computer and tried the second option.the same loading as the first one and then a blue screen with a message appears saying that "the xserxer is not correctly configured" and asking me if i want to view the logfile.when i accept,another screen appears which says at the end "no screen found".i think the problem is with the monitor since it is plug and play.if you have experienced the same difficulty and know a way out of it,write me at: wandoolion at yahoo.com thanks, my computer hardware description is: processor=INTEL celeron cpu 1.70GHZ memory=128MB video card(display adapter)=intel 82845G Graphics controller DAC type=internal memory size=32mb adapter string=intel 82845G/GL graphics controller BIOS information=intel video BIOS monitor=screen refresh rate:60hz =ACTION 15" svga color monitor =windows xp considers it a (standard type monitor) =highest resolution supported:800x600 --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> <45704380.9060707@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: John wrote: > Steve Flynn wrote: >> On 01/12/06, *John* > > wrote: >> >> Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in >> fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. >> >> Non-contact bearings? Where can I buy my own anti-gravity machine to >> operate my own non-contact devices and frictionless systems. Perpetual >> motion, here I come. >> > Look into air bearings - the spinning motion 'injects' a film of air > into the gap between the rotating parts, no contact, just like a > hovercraft. > I can believe that, but that doesn't mean _no friction_, and how does it insure that the "bearings" (I mean, really, we have to call something that doesn't "bear" anything by another name...) can't come into contact with particulates, causing them to seize? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 5 18:19:49 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:19:49 -0400 Subject: subject line References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> <1165124391.5769.34.camel@Wind> <200612030801.44714.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <5rpg44-vsg.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > On Sunday 03 December 2006 02:39, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from Gerry Visel who wrote: > >> If you're trying to filter, just filter on Ubuntu in the sender's >> address.  Works for me! > > Does not help keeping the various threads from ubuntu-users, kubuntu-user, > mandriva-users etc separate in the linuxmail mailbox... > Does for me. Everything goes to the folder "linux", then to the subfolder "ubuntu" or "Centos", etc. Though I filter on mailing list names, not "To". -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 5 18:30:12 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:30:12 -0400 Subject: subject line References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164938340.11389.11.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <87vekvcj63.fsf@spamfence.net> <45724099.6020607@streamyx.com> <45725D04.2070307@streamyx.com> Message-ID: michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > Hi, is it possible to default [ubuntu-users] in the subject line for all > emails in the mailing list? No. It's wrong (specifically, it's wrong because that takes up 17 characters on my message display - so that window has to be wider for me to be able to read the significant part of the subject). I don't want to be insulting, but you've demonstrated four significant errors in posting this message already, and if you can't properly post, how can you think you know the right way for a mailing list to work? Please: _never_ "Reply" to a post when you want to start a new thread, and when you do start a new thread, _always_ give it a subject, don't top-post, and finally, if you post a message once, then realize you did something wrong (or just don't immediately see it), don't just post it again. Finally, you get much more polite and intelligent response by asking how to get the results you want [ie, "how can I filter the 'ubuntu-user' messages using Evolution"] rather than asking everybody else to change to accomodate you. -- derek From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 18:41:45 2006 From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:41:45 -0500 Subject: install webrick for Rail In-Reply-To: <1165343423.5322.32.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165343423.5322.32.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <351278b80612051041l3d7f46e7ucad9b7c46812c545@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12052006 1226 GMT-6 > > I followed the instructions in the Wiki for Ruby on Rails here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails > and it says webrick is easiest to use for testing. Well, Im just > learning and dont want to mess with my Apache install so, can someone > tell me, it says that webrick is the default install with Rails but I > didnt get it.... how do you? Run script/server in your project directory; that will load webrick on port 3000, with all of the rails libraries it needs; go to http://localhost:3000/ in your browser to see the start page. (I'm assuming that you've gotten everything up to that point okay, including generating a new application with 'rails my_app'; once you have rails and mysql installed, the tutorials from www.rubyonrails.com should be helpful, too). From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Tue Dec 5 18:58:22 2006 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:58:22 +0100 Subject: Manpages for C library Message-ID: <4575C14E.1060700@uni-graz.at> Hi, forgive me, for this is probably a stupid question, but I'm a Java and Perl hacker and relatively new to C: In which package can I find the manpages for the standard C library (like "man fopen" or so)? TIA Dieter From gcvisel at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 19:01:56 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:01:56 -0600 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> <45704380.9060707@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <76800d9c0612051101w5596a72bx73ac98bcee2d2617@mail.gmail.com> When it's running, it rides on air. When it shuts down, it makes contact. Leave it running. Gerry On 12/5/06, Derek Broughton wrote: > John wrote: > > > Steve Flynn wrote: > >> On 01/12/06, *John* >> > wrote: > >> > >> Warmed-up components wear less than cold ones. As for the bearings in > >> fans, these are non-contact so don't have any friction or wear. > >> > >> Non-contact bearings? Where can I buy my own anti-gravity machine to > >> operate my own non-contact devices and frictionless systems. Perpetual > >> motion, here I come. > >> > > Look into air bearings - the spinning motion 'injects' a film of air > > into the gap between the rotating parts, no contact, just like a > > hovercraft. > > > I can believe that, but that doesn't mean _no friction_, and how does it > insure that the "bearings" (I mean, really, we have to call something that > doesn't "bear" anything by another name...) can't come into contact with > particulates, causing them to seize? > -- > derek > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From adconrad at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 5 19:14:25 2006 From: adconrad at ubuntu.com (Adam Conrad) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:14:25 +1100 Subject: Manpages for C library In-Reply-To: <4575C14E.1060700@uni-graz.at> References: <4575C14E.1060700@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <4575C511.3020501@ubuntu.com> Dieter Schicker wrote: > > forgive me, for this is probably a stupid question, but I'm a Java and > Perl hacker and relatively new to C: In which package can I find the > manpages for the standard C library (like "man fopen" or so)? manpages-dev ... Adam From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 5 18:42:44 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:42:44 -0400 Subject: Kmail: check spelling as you type References: <200612051353.30157.pubmb01@skynet.be> Message-ID: <46rg44-c7h.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Bruno Costacurta wrote: > Hello, > few questions about kmail related to 'check spelling as you type' > fonctionality : > > - how to enable/disable it ? > - how to modifiy language ? > - is the language used for checking independent of the language use by KDE > environment (ie. menus) ? > - is it possible to use more than one language in the check spelling ? > This is strictly not an Ubuntu problem, and really belongs on the Kubuntu list. This came up on the KDE-pim list recently, for users of a couple of distros, so I'm fairly sure I have the fix to enable it. When Composing a new message, go to the "Settings" / "Spellchecker" menu. I don't know whether the language is tied to the KDE language (since I can only use one language...), but the dictionary to use can be specified there. Then go to the "Options" menu, and enable "Automatic Spellchecking". This appears not to be the default setting. Once you've done that, it should be on for all messages. I don't think it's possible to use more than one language at a time. -- derek From terrence at terrencevak.net Tue Dec 5 19:25:37 2006 From: terrence at terrencevak.net (terrence at terrencevak.net) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:25:37 -0900 (AKST) Subject: Kernel Panic Issue Message-ID: Hello all, I'm using an eMachines 433-mhz PC with about 640 MB of ram and 2 hard drives, one 20 gig and one 4-gig. I had Ubuntu up and running on the 20-gig drive just fine. Then last night I tried to install Oralux (a derivative of Knoppix designed for blind users) on the other hard drive, with a floppy for a boot disk. Now, however, I can't seem to get either of the two to boot up; no matter what I do I get a kernel panic error, something about being unable to mount some root thing to unknown-block... (followed by a bunch of numbers). How can I fix this so at least my Ubuntu comes up like it's supposed to? Thanks, Terrence From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 5 19:18:31 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:31 -0400 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> <45704380.9060707@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <76800d9c0612051101w5596a72bx73ac98bcee2d2617@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79tg44-ueh.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Gerry Visel wrote: > When it's running, it rides on air. When it shuts down, it makes > contact. Leave it running. > One of the advantages of top-posting would seem to be that it leaves you able to entirely ignore what you're responding to. I wrote: >> I can believe that, but that doesn't mean _no friction_, and how does it >> insure that the "bearings" (I mean, really, we have to call something >> that doesn't "bear" anything by another name...) can't come into contact >> with particulates, causing them to seize? Do you have an answer, or are you taking it on faith? Because I have enough experience of seized PC fans to be quite interested if you can come up with a design that prevents it. -- derek From norman at littletank.org Tue Dec 5 19:47:36 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:47:36 +0000 Subject: borderless printing Message-ID: <1165348056.1001.17.camel@localhost> I have recently set up a new box and loaded the latest version of Dapper. I am now not able to print borderless prints correctly. I use Gimp, Turboprint and an Epson Stylus Photo R300. I can only guess that the problem could be with Gimp, which I think is a different version to that on the original Dapper or with CUPS, which I understand is not the latest version. Has anyone any suggestions please on how to determine what is wrong? Norman From gcvisel at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 19:55:01 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:55:01 -0600 Subject: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? In-Reply-To: <79tg44-ueh.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> References: <456F6691.2020300@iname.com> <1164963095.15052.19.camel@localhost> <1164965201.4768.12.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1164968108.15052.34.camel@localhost> <45702C7F.8070300@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <45391f280612010632k7d1d7acavaf6684f4633ae928@mail.gmail.com> <45704380.9060707@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <76800d9c0612051101w5596a72bx73ac98bcee2d2617@mail.gmail.com> <79tg44-ueh.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <76800d9c0612051155p7b0695ddqf1f77a70f09860fd@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, Derek Broughton wrote: > Gerry Visel wrote: > > When it's running, it rides on air. When it shuts down, it makes > > contact. Leave it running. > > > One of the advantages of top-posting would seem to be that it leaves you > able to entirely ignore what you're responding to. > > I wrote: > >> I can believe that, but that doesn't mean _no friction_, and how does it > >> insure that the "bearings" (I mean, really, we have to call something > >> that doesn't "bear" anything by another name...) can't come into contact > >> with particulates, causing them to seize? > > Do you have an answer, or are you taking it on faith? Because I have enough > experience of seized PC fans to be quite interested if you can come up with > a design that prevents it. > -- > derek > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Derek, Sorry. My other lists are all top-posters. My experience with things mechanical (and electrical) says that problems happen when something changes. That change can be dirt getting in or temperature changing or me fiddling in there or me banging it with my foot or... Turning the system on and off is a whole bunch of changes at once. You try to design for those changes, but that is when things get stressed. (I do periodically shut it down and open it up and vacuum out the dirt and clean/change filters. I do cross my fingers when I turn it back on.) Gerry (electro-mechanical design engineer) From todbot88 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 20:56:40 2006 From: todbot88 at gmail.com (Tod Merley) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:56:40 -0800 Subject: Kernel Panic Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b5e63cf0612051256s430bc6a2p903a5c8ea2de375f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, terrence at terrencevak.net wrote: > Hello all, > I'm using an eMachines 433-mhz PC with about 640 MB of ram and 2 > hard drives, one 20 gig and one 4-gig. I had Ubuntu up and running on the > 20-gig drive just fine. Then last night I tried to install Oralux (a > derivative of Knoppix designed for blind users) on the other hard drive, > with a floppy for a boot disk. Now, however, I can't seem to get either > of the two to boot up; no matter what I do I get a kernel panic error, > something about being unable to mount some root thing to unknown-block... > (followed by a bunch of numbers). How can I fix this so at least my > Ubuntu comes up like it's supposed to? > > Thanks, > Terrence > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Hi Terrence! When you play with dual boot however you do it you need to understand GRUB. See: # From the Free Software Foundation Website- http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/ What probably has happended is that you, in the process of doing so many things to get your 4g going, pointed the master boot record on your main drive to the wrong place. If I were doing it I would temporairily make the second drive the boot drive (if possible) and then point to it from the boot menu of the first drive (no floppy needed). It would probably be good to educate yourself on booting: # Highly technical but good - http://www.geocities.com/thestarman3/asm/mbr/GRUB.htm Good Hunting! Tod From todbot88 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 21:10:02 2006 From: todbot88 at gmail.com (Tod Merley) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:10:02 -0800 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS In-Reply-To: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8b5e63cf0612051310p79fd7bd3hfc6da71d733c80@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, wandoo abbas wrote: > hi there, > i'm a new user of linux and i thought of trying one of the linux-based > OS's.so,i ordered free shipit ubuntu CDs(ubuntu ver.6.06 LTS-dapper > drake,desktop version) and i've just got them a week ago.but alas,i was > forbidden the linux experience by an error message saying > "no screen found".i don't know what to do.if you know a solution,please > help. > this is what happened in detail.i inserted the CD and the ubuntu > installation menu appeared.as you know,there are two options:the "start or > install ubuntu" and the "start ubuntu in graphics mode" options.when > choosing the first option,it started loading files and then opened a black > screen with two white cursors alittle apart from each other.i touched every > key plus ctrl+alt+F1 but nothing happened.then i restarted the computer and > tried the second option.the same loading as the first one and then a blue > screen with a message appears saying that "the xserxer is not correctly > configured" and asking me if i want to view the logfile.when i > accept,another screen appears which says at the end "no screen found".i > think the problem is with the monitor since it is plug and play.if you have > experienced the same difficulty and know a way out of it,write me at: > wandoolion at yahoo.com > thanks, > my computer hardware description is: > processor=INTEL celeron cpu 1.70GHZ > memory=128MB > video card(display adapter)=intel 82845G Graphics controller > DAC type=internal > memory size=32mb > adapter string=intel 82845G/GL graphics controller > BIOS information=intel video BIOS > monitor=screen refresh rate:60hz > =ACTION 15" svga color monitor > =windows xp considers it a (standard type monitor) > =highest resolution supported:800x600 > > > ________________________________ > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > Hi wandoo abbas! I wish I had a Ubuntu computer close by but alas not here. Your instincts are probably good, probably the x-configuration for your monitor and possibly display card are not good. The critical files to look at are: /etc/X11/xorg.conf /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg Good to do a "man xorg.conf". You could access these from the rescue mode of the live disk. Probably good to do in your case is to DL Puppy Linux and perhaps Knoppix. Both are pretty good with hardware and a bit of copy and paste my be all that is needed to repair your xorg.conf file. Google is our friend! Good Hunting! Tod From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Tue Dec 5 21:21:47 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:21:47 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS In-Reply-To: <8b5e63cf0612051310p79fd7bd3hfc6da71d733c80@mail.gmail.com> References: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8b5e63cf0612051310p79fd7bd3hfc6da71d733c80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165353707.5712.253.camel@chronic> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:10 -0800, Tod Merley wrote: > > Your instincts are probably good, probably the x-configuration for > your monitor and possibly display card are not good. If I understood the original poster correctly, Ubuntu did not even install because the live CD is not able to set up the X Window System. From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 5 21:32:14 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:32:14 -0600 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS In-Reply-To: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4575E55E.3070408@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 wandoo abbas wrote: > hi there, > i'm a new user of linux and i thought of trying one of the linux-based OS's.so,i ordered free shipit ubuntu CDs(ubuntu ver.6.06 LTS-dapper drake,desktop version) and i've just got them a week ago.but alas,i was forbidden the linux experience by an error message saying > "no screen found".i don't know what to do.if you know a solution,please help. > this is what happened in detail.i inserted the CD and the ubuntu installation menu appeared.as you know,there are two options:the "start or install ubuntu" and the "start ubuntu in graphics mode" options.when choosing the first option,it started loading files and then opened a black screen with two white cursors alittle apart from each other.i touched every key plus ctrl+alt+F1 but nothing happened.then i restarted the computer and tried the second option.the same loading as the first one and then a blue screen with a message appears saying that "the xserxer is not correctly configured" and asking me if i want to view the logfile.when i accept,another screen appears which says at the end "no screen found".i think the problem is with the monitor since it is plug and play.if you have experienced the same difficulty and know a way out of it,write me at: Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but 640M isn't enough for almost anything, anymore; I think it requires 32M, minimum. But maybe I read that wrong. But it seems to be close to what I think the problem is: memory. I've set up dozens of machines, some of them running every day for the last 6 years. And when I see kernel panics (always) it's hardware. Thankfully, there's memtest, right there on the CDROM. Let that run...if you see anything in red, that'll point to the error. It's very throuough- it can take some time. But if there's a loose bit, a bit stuck on or off, it'll find it. Personally, I'd the memory as "suspect", swap it out, and then see if the problem continues. Keep in mind, though, it's very possible that something on the motherboard could have just died...something you probably can't change. Good luck with it! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdeVd6PLtRzZbdhYRAhJjAJ97LvmjtGgXBL/3vUe7PDsubBwacQCfbJhS 94BpOrMkzpQ5EFZ4NsyWuVQ= =X7r6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Tue Dec 5 21:51:20 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:51:20 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS In-Reply-To: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165355480.5712.261.camel@chronic> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:35 -0800, wandoo abbas wrote: > my computer hardware description is: processor=INTEL celeron cpu > 1.70GHZ > memory=128MB Here's your problem: the Ubuntu Desktop CD requires at least 256 MB RAM: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606 If you download the "Alternate install CD" [1] you will probably be able to install (because the installer will be in text-mode; it is still not very hard though if you are willing to read what it tells you), but running the installed system afterwards might be a bit slow. At least you might want to to use lighter applications than the default (e.g. epiphany instead of firefox as a browser, or abiword and gnumeric instead of openoffice) [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download There are GNU/Linux distributions that are better suited to older hardware, see these links: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/02/13/1854251 http://www.linuxforums.org/desktop/a_linux_distribution_for_an_old_laptop.html http://www.puppylinux.org/ From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Tue Dec 5 21:53:18 2006 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:53:18 +0100 Subject: Manpages for C library In-Reply-To: <4575C511.3020501@ubuntu.com> References: <4575C14E.1060700@uni-graz.at> <4575C511.3020501@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <4575EA4E.1010907@uni-graz.at> Adam Conrad wrote: > Dieter Schicker wrote: > >> forgive me, for this is probably a stupid question, but I'm a Java and >> Perl hacker and relatively new to C: In which package can I find the >> manpages for the standard C library (like "man fopen" or so)? >> > > manpages-dev > > ... Adam > > Thanks! Dieter From peter at stoddard.us Tue Dec 5 21:59:59 2006 From: peter at stoddard.us (Peter Stoddard) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:59:59 -0800 Subject: Kernel Panic Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D3AD40D-EE2B-435A-8421-E04A56915897@stoddard.us> On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:25 AM, terrence at terrencevak.net wrote: > Hello all, > I'm using an eMachines 433-mhz PC with about 640 MB of ram and 2 > hard drives, one 20 gig and one 4-gig. I had Ubuntu up and running > on the > 20-gig drive just fine. Then last night I tried to install Oralux (a > derivative of Knoppix designed for blind users) on the other hard > drive, > with a floppy for a boot disk. Now, however, I can't seem to get > either > of the two to boot up; no matter what I do I get a kernel panic error, > something about being unable to mount some root thing to unknown- > block... > (followed by a bunch of numbers). How can I fix this so at least my > Ubuntu comes up like it's supposed to? This may be a software issue, but I always suspect bad ram also, whenever I get non-specific kernel panics. If you have several sticks, try switching them around. I don't know if there is an Ubuntu utility for testing ram. Pete -- Peter Stoddard -- GPG Key 4A1F5DA0 From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Tue Dec 5 22:04:18 2006 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:04:18 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.06 LTS SOS In-Reply-To: <1165355480.5712.261.camel@chronic> References: <643320.62977.qm@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1165355480.5712.261.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <4575ECE2.10206@uni-graz.at> Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:35 -0800, wandoo abbas wrote: > >> my computer hardware description is: processor=INTEL celeron cpu >> 1.70GHZ >> memory=128MB >> > > Here's your problem: the Ubuntu Desktop CD requires at least 256 MB > RAM: > http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606 > > If you download the "Alternate install CD" [1] you will probably be able > to install (because the installer will be in text-mode; it is still not > very hard though if you are willing to read what it tells you), but > running the installed system afterwards might be a bit slow. At least > you might want to to use lighter applications than the default (e.g. > epiphany instead of firefox as a browser, or abiword and gnumeric > instead of openoffice) > > [1] > http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download > > There are GNU/Linux distributions that are better suited to older > hardware, see these links: > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/02/13/1854251 > http://www.linuxforums.org/desktop/a_linux_distribution_for_an_old_laptop.html > http://www.puppylinux.org/ > > > Hi, I agree with the previous speakers. I only want to add another strange point that I noticed when installing Ubuntu Dapper (alternate and "graphical" installation): On some machines somewhere (relatively "late") in the installation process the screen turns black (with only two text cursors visible as wandoo abbas explained in his initial mail). I assume that's where the installer tries to configure the xorg-server, but I'm not totally sure about that. Anyways, the solution is trivial: Just let the installation run (and it really goes on installing!) until it spits out the installation CD => Reboot => Done. Just my experiences ... Cheers Dieter From asturiolists at gmx.net Tue Dec 5 22:26:22 2006 From: asturiolists at gmx.net (Claudio Clemens) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:26:22 +0100 Subject: Opening pdf attachment from mail client not working In-Reply-To: <20061130161958.GA21654@gmx.de> References: <20061124155408.GA11331@gmx.de> <20061126055622.GA19156@rip.cvrse.com> <20061130161958.GA21654@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20061205222622.GA12353@thorion.karameikos.my> 2006-11-30, 17:19 +0100, Luqman: > > ben darby wanted us to know: > > >* Luqman wrote: > >> mail client: mutt > >> > >> I have problem opening pdf files directory from my mail client. Saving > >> pdf attachments and then opening works fine. > >> > >> Mail client shows following mime type for the attachment: > >> > >> [-- Typ: application/pdf, Kodierung: base64, Größe: 130K --] > >> > >> $mypc:> cat /etc/mailcap | grep pdf > >> application/pdf; evince '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ; nametemplate=%s.pdf > >> > >> I am clueless. Can someone give an advice... > > > >is evince in your terminals path? try using its full path > >/usr/bin/evince & try opening it with 'm' in the attachments section to > >force the viewing with mailcap, other than that im not sure as it works > >fine here. > > > > It seems to be a subtle problem. I have a pdf attachment that is being > recognized as pdf: > > [-- Anhang #2: nssim.pdf --] > [-- Typ: application/pdf, Kodierung: base64, Größe: 368K --] > > Another pdf attachment is seen as an octet-stream in mutt: I bet this attachment can be viewed without problems > [-- Anhang #2: spectsFinal.pdf --] > [-- Typ: application/octet-stream, Kodierung: base64, Größe: 465K --] But this one will fail. > Sometimes pdf files are openend with evince in mutt, and sometimes > evince opens and shows only empty pages. > I also observed following error when opening pdf attachments: > > Failed to load document (error 3) 'file:///tmp/overview.pdf' > > I think my system is really broken << Edgy installed. Will try to open > these email attachments in dapper, that's still installed on my laptop in another > partition. Actually the system is broken... but not at your side. The problem is that, mutt doesn't guess if the attached file is a pdf, or gif, or whatever. This invormation comes from the mailing Program of the sender. So if they use a good program, it will write in the mail, that the file is a pdf "application/pdf". If they use a broken program, it just write in the Mail, "This is data". "application/octet-stream" can be anything. So thats why mutt don't know how to handle octet-stream. (or mailcap, or whatever). What you can do is: go to the given attachment, and press CTRL+"e", and edit the Content-Type to a better MIME-Type. In your case just "application/pdf" Now you should be able to view the attachment. HTH, Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. Claudio Clemens |------| Sarge |-------+ | : :' : asturio at gmx (.) net GNU/Linux User #79942 | | `. `' http://asturio.gmxhome.de/begin.html | | `- "YE GODS, I HAVE FEET??!" <- Userfriendly | Para transformar um 486 em XT. Digite WIN e tecle [ENTER] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Terrence From clintin at linuxmail.org Tue Dec 5 23:26:12 2006 From: clintin at linuxmail.org (Clint Tinsley) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:26:12 -0700 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot Message-ID: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> rsync --daemon I am little fuzzy on configuring services in Ubuntu. The rsyncd sevice is nowhere to be found in the Administration tools as far as I can tell and I don't know how to add it to the applet, if I can. I have tried starting it on boot with the appropriate entries in both rc.local and inetd.conf. I just realized I spelled it wrong in rc.local, maybe that will work. Anyway, I would to find some good information on configuring and starting services such as rsycnd in Ubuntu. I did find the script for starting rsync and like I said, it does work as I can start it from a terminal session without any problems or errors with the command above and it works great. Would appreciate any light that could be shed on this. I even did a search on the wiki but pretty much came up empty handed. Thanks. Clint From vramnum10 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 23:27:11 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:27:11 -0800 Subject: dapper upgrade Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612051527y7f2836a5s51569070951b3d67@mail.gmail.com> Get this message on dist-upgrade E: Invalid operation dist-update root at ava:/var/lib/dpkg# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Error! E: Problem parsing dependency Depends E: Error occurred while processing gnome-volume-manager (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. Any idea how to fix?? User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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FWIW, I subscribe to both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu lists but both get funnelled into the same IMAP folder. Personally, I don't see a big distinction (especially seeing as KDE and Gnome can share the same spelling configuration via Aspell etc). Peace, James -- O imitators, you slavish herd! -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace) From maphew at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 00:07:03 2006 From: maphew at gmail.com (matt wilkie) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:07:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: trouble installing Time::HiRes Message-ID: <7711123.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi All, I've been having trouble getting the cpan module Time::HiRes installed in ubuntu dapper (6.06). Is there a native ubuntu/debian package which includes this? For details see http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1609560&group_id=170460&atid=854292 excerpt is: ----- Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Time::HiRes Now you may issue 'make'. Do not forget also 'make test'. NOTE: if you get an error like this (the Makefile line number may vary): Makefile:91: *** missing separator then set the environment variable LC_ALL to "C" and retry from scratch (re-run perl "Makefile.PL"). (And consider upgrading your Perl.) cp HiRes.pm blib/lib/Time/HiRes.pm /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap HiRes.xs > HiRes.xsc && mv HiRes.xsc HiRes.ccc -c -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -DDEBIAN -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O2 -DVERSION=\"1.95\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.95\" -fPIC "-I/usr/lib/perl/5.8/CORE" -DTIME_HIRES_NANOSLEEP -DTIME_HIRES_CLOCK_GETTIME -DTIME_HIRES_CLOCK_GETTIME_SYSCALL -DTIME_HIRES_CLOCK_GETRES -DTIME_HIRES_CLOCK_GETRES_SYSCALL -DTIME_HIRES_CLOCK-DTIME_HIRES_STAT=4 -DATLEASTFIVEOHOHFIVE HiRes.c HiRes.xs: In function ‘XS_Time__HiRes_stat’: HiRes.xs:1221: error: too few arguments to function ‘Perl_pp_stat’ make: *** [HiRes.o] Error 1 /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install make had returned bad status, install seems impossible The following modules are missing, or you may have older versions: ------ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/trouble-installing-Time%3A%3AHiRes-tf2765278.html#a7711123 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From maphew at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 00:19:23 2006 From: maphew at gmail.com (matt wilkie) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:19:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: trouble installing Time::HiRes In-Reply-To: <7711123.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <7711123.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <7711284.post@talk.nabble.com> nevermind, it seems to have been a bug in Time::HiRes 1.95, today it works with Time:HiRes 1.97 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/trouble-installing-Time%3A%3AHiRes-tf2765278.html#a7711284 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 6 00:24:28 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:24:28 +1100 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot In-Reply-To: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061206112428.4ac1ec63.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:26:12 -0700 "Clint Tinsley" wrote: > rsync --daemon > > I am little fuzzy on configuring services in Ubuntu. > > The rsyncd sevice is nowhere to be found in the Administration tools as far as I can tell and I don't know how to add it to the applet, if I can. > > I have tried starting it on boot with the appropriate entries in both rc.local and inetd.conf. I just realized I spelled it wrong in rc.local, maybe that will work. Anyway, I would to find some good information on configuring and starting services such as rsycnd in Ubuntu. I did find the script for starting rsync and like I said, it does work as I can start it from a terminal session without any problems or errors with the command above and it works great. > > Would appreciate any light that could be shed on this. I even did a search on the wiki but pretty much came up empty handed. This was discussed some months ago on the list. You might find https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/082994.html useful. The thread started with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/082923.html Peter From peter at stoddard.us Wed Dec 6 02:54:34 2006 From: peter at stoddard.us (Peter Stoddard) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:54:34 -0800 Subject: Getting an hfsplus using ubuntu 6.10? Message-ID: <913BB58E-9ED0-41E0-AF28-AD1E3F584C50@stoddard.us> Hi folks I'm running Ubuntu desktop 6.10, kernel 2.6.17-10 generic. I have a spare disk currently with ext3 filesystem. I would like to replace ext3 with an hfsplus filesystem for use with MacOSX 10.4. I have seen a discussion of how to do it with darwin, but not with ubuntu. Is there a way to put an hfsplus filesystem on a disk using ubuntu 6.10? Pete -- Peter Stoddard -- GPG Key 4A1F5DA0 From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Tue Dec 5 08:16:20 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:16:20 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1165374101.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 4.4.7 (el tiempo de envío expiró) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Kristian Rink Subject: **ubuntu: Re: notebook decision? Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:13:36 +0100 Size: 4942 URL: From clintin at linuxmail.org Wed Dec 6 03:16:01 2006 From: clintin at linuxmail.org (Clint Tinsley) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:16:01 -0700 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot Message-ID: <20061206031602.0DAFC43F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Garrett" > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:24:28 +1100 > > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:26:12 -0700 > "Clint Tinsley" wrote: > > > rsync --daemon > > > > I am little fuzzy on configuring services in Ubuntu. > > > > The rsyncd sevice is nowhere to be found in the Administration > > tools as far as I can tell and I don't know how to add it to the > > applet, if I can. > > > > I have tried starting it on boot with the appropriate entries in > > both rc.local and inetd.conf. I just realized I spelled it wrong > > in rc.local, maybe that will work. Anyway, I would to find some > > good information on configuring and starting services such as > > rsycnd in Ubuntu. I did find the script for starting rsync and > > like I said, it does work as I can start it from a terminal > > session without any problems or errors with the command above and > > it works great. > > > > Would appreciate any light that could be shed on this. I even > > did a search on the wiki but pretty much came up empty handed. > > This was discussed some months ago on the list. You might find > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/082994.html > > useful. The thread started with > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/082923.html > > > Peter Thanks for the links. My rc.local entry did work after correcting my spelling of daemon. I'll have to look at these other solutions. Also had to put in a chown statement to maintain the correct permissions on the directories after a reboot. rsync needs the nobody ownership. All works very nicely. Thanks again. Clint From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Mon Dec 4 21:47:04 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:47:04 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1165375014.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 4.4.7 (el tiempo de envío expiró) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: norman Subject: **ubuntu: Re: printer Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:43:36 +0000 Size: 3566 URL: From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Wed Dec 6 03:22:38 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:52:38 +0530 Subject: how to download through windows Message-ID: I have published details of my PCMCIA card at http://desaiyn.tripod.com/laptop/CDMAX1.htm with details, screen shots and photo of the said card. Hope you can help. Thank you very much for showing interest in helping. I am new at Linux but I can provide any dump from my laptop if you give me what command line to use or what screen to look for. Thanks once again Regards Yagnesh > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:11:18 +0200 From: "Amichai Rotman" Subject: Re: how to download through windows To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" lspci - List PCI devices - just open a terminal and run the command, then copy and paste it in a msg - this way we'll know your modem's chipset and will be able to find the right driver for you. PCMCIA (or PC Card) hardware is managed by the pcmcia services.... Send us the data and we'll be able to check it out... Amichai From custom at freenet.de Wed Dec 6 03:43:37 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:43:37 +0700 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> Message-ID: <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:51 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote: > Why do you need a LASER printer? Why not an ink jet? > Supplies tend to be cheaper for ink jet... and photo rendering is > light years better on an ink jet. > Do you have a specific need that requires laser rather than ink jet? Any kind of business graphics is MUCH better on color laser. Faster, bigger trays, and probably lower cost per print when you print a lot. Like try printing 50 user manuals on an ink-jet... Ouch! Ink-jets are fine for occasionally printing something, and for pictures indeed, but around the office? Question: Would HP Color Laser printers also work when connected through USB to an Ubuntu PC? Or is the networked (print server included) version vastly preferable? Cheers, Chanchao From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Tue Dec 5 04:58:29 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 05:58:29 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1165376752.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 4.4.7 (el tiempo de envío expiró) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "YAGNESH N DESAI" Subject: **ubuntu: Re: alternative cd Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:23:47 +0530 Size: 5085 URL: From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Wed Dec 6 03:35:10 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:05:10 +0530 Subject: ubuntu proxy server Message-ID: Thank you Berg; I was trying this at my office. Where (unfortunately) I figured out that the m/c I wanted to become proxy server is not having modem it is using LAN to connect to internet via another proxy server which is not in my control. This m/c has only one ethernet connection. Is there a way to make it a proxy server just wandering. Regards Yagnesh > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:24:29 +0100 From: " Bj?rn Ingmar Berg " Subject: Re: ubuntu proxy server To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <379ea5900612042324j5972bf01x5d200a2d8861139a at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/12/06, YAGNESH N DESAI wrote: > Friends Sorry for my ignorance; > I want to setup a proxy server using ubuntu. How do I do that ? I did that on a vanilla Ubuntu 6.10 server recently. The process was simple and straight-forward. First I installed squid (http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/squid). Next I tweaked squid.conf a little. The config-file is very self-documenting. There were a few things I needed to change, like allowing all users on the local LAN, min and max size of cached objects and the total size of the cache on disk. Nothing complicated. When tested it worked on the first go. Turns out squid starts automatically after a boot, so you can install, configure and forget about it. > Also is it possible to do it using live CD . . ? If you mean "Install a system to harddisk from the live CD and then add squid", yes it's absolutely possible. If you mean "run the entire server with squid off a live CD" I doubt it. At least I guess you will have to remaster a live CD for this. Good luck, Bj?rn Ingmar Berg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil.a.mcleod at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 04:27:48 2006 From: neil.a.mcleod at gmail.com (Neil McLeod) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:27:48 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days Message-ID: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) crashes. I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. Here is what appears in my /var/log/syslog prior to crash. I constantly get these messages: Dec 5 22:39:02 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[21525]: (root) CMD ( [ -d > /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin > +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm) > Dec 5 22:39:05 localhost cupsd: Unable to open log file > "/var/log/cups/error_log" - Permission denied > Dec 5 22:39:40 localhost last message repeated 91 times > Dec 5 22:40:40 localhost last message repeated 183 times > Dec 5 22:41:40 localhost last message repeated 156 times > Dec 5 22:42:41 localhost last message repeated 156 times > Dec 5 22:43:41 localhost last message repeated 156 times [and so on, about 50 times...] Dec 5 23:05:42 localhost last message repeated 156 times > Dec 5 23:06:42 localhost last message repeated 156 times > Dec 5 23:12:10 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart. > > Here are the file permissions in /var/log/cups (though I thought I had changed the owner of error_log to cupsys at some point to try to fix the problem): -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 2.0K 2006-12-05 23:13 access_log -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 180 2006-12-05 02:10 access_log.1.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 183 2006-12-04 03:01 access_log.2.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 249 2006-12-03 03:17 access_log.3.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 192 2006-11-30 04:02 access_log.4.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 189 2006-11-29 20:39 access_log.5.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 117 2006-11-29 12:31 access_log.6.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 222 2006-11-27 19:45 access_log.7.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 1.7M 2006-12-05 23:23 error_log -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 98K 2006-12-05 12:31 error_log.1.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 35K 2006-12-04 03:32 error_log.2.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 80K 2006-12-03 13:05 error_log.3.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 17K 2006-12-02 02:27 error_log.4.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 106K 2006-12-01 00:14 error_log.5.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 73K 2006-11-30 02:03 error_log.6.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 32K 2006-11-29 12:35 error_log.7.gz -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-06-11 01:19 page_log Questions: (1) Is it likely that CUPS is causing these crashes? 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Laude) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:28:40 -0700 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <457646F8.3040309@bresnan.net> Chanchao wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:51 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote: > >> Why do you need a LASER printer? Why not an ink jet? >> Supplies tend to be cheaper for ink jet... and photo rendering is >> light years better on an ink jet. >> Do you have a specific need that requires laser rather than ink jet? > > Any kind of business graphics is MUCH better on color laser. Faster, > bigger trays, and probably lower cost per print when you print a lot. > Like try printing 50 user manuals on an ink-jet... Ouch! > > Ink-jets are fine for occasionally printing something, and for pictures > indeed, but around the office? > Actually, the 2600N does 600x600 dpi and print pages at 8 ppm color and around 8 ppm black. The quality is there, but the speed isn't.Add in the cost of black, plus 3 color toner cartridges that cost on average of $75.00 US, not much value. The 2605DN is a tad better with 10 ppm color and 12 ppm black. 1200x1200 dpi black, and the same 600x600 dpi in color. Toner costs are the same. Personally, I'd go with the 2600DN if I needed a color laserjet. Since color isn't printed here that often, at least the toner doesn't dry up like a inkjet. Dana From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Tue Dec 5 02:56:47 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 03:56:47 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1165379564.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 4.4.7 (el tiempo de envío expiró) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Chanchao Subject: **ubuntu: Re: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:53:09 +0700 Size: 4043 URL: From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Tue Dec 5 03:02:24 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 04:02:24 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1165379699.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 4.4.7 (el tiempo de envío expiró) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Chanchao Subject: **ubuntu: Re: When do you turn off your Ubuntu boxes? Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:59:00 +0700 Size: 4158 URL: From custom at freenet.de Wed Dec 6 04:42:59 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:42:59 +0700 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <457646F8.3040309@bresnan.net> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <457646F8.3040309@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <1165380179.28921.30.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 21:28 -0700, Dana J. Laude wrote: > Personally, I'd go with the 2600DN if I needed a color laserjet. > Since color isn't printed here that often, at least the toner > doesn't dry up like a inkjet. And another advantage I can see is the separate cartridges for the colors.. In my office, the color of our company logo tends to run out before the other ones, so you always end up not using a lot of the other colors. With a color laser you'd just stock up a little more on the blue ones. :) Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Wed Dec 6 04:46:29 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:46:29 +0700 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165380389.28921.34.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 23:27 -0500, Neil McLeod wrote: > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) > crashes. I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. I had erratic behavior before which was caused by not having any swap memory / swap file available. (which got lost for some reason). You can check that in the 'System Monitor' from System->Administration.. Secondly I would try disabling any special drivers you might be running, and turn off as many services as possible. Finally you can just reinstall Dapper. (or Edgy) It should run fine on a Thinkpad, unless there's some hardware/memory problem of course. (Try a mem-test) Cheers, Chanchao From brian at fahrlander.net Wed Dec 6 08:25:47 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:25:47 -0600 Subject: Colour Laserprinter recommendations In-Reply-To: <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <95D9D50D05C41E47BBE4EB6C7535A5570282FB73@spock.york.benenden.org.uk> <1165322722.1001.2.camel@localhost> <45756B5F.7040501@Gravier.org> <1165376618.28921.27.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <45767E8B.70300@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chanchao wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:51 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote: > >> Why do you need a LASER printer? Why not an ink jet? >> Supplies tend to be cheaper for ink jet... and photo rendering is >> light years better on an ink jet. >> Do you have a specific need that requires laser rather than ink jet? > > Any kind of business graphics is MUCH better on color laser. Faster, > bigger trays, and probably lower cost per print when you print a lot. > Like try printing 50 user manuals on an ink-jet... Ouch! > > Ink-jets are fine for occasionally printing something, and for pictures > indeed, but around the office? Here, here: I can spend $40/month paying for tiny inkwells for a possibly-smeary inkjet image which runs out of ink when my bank account does, or I can use my HP4 to shoot out thousands of pages without a second thought; the kit to replenish the laserjet is about that I'd pay for a single set of ink carts. I threw away about 5-6 inkjet printers about a month ago; they're the new "Gillette razor" where they give you the printer and charge huge prices for ever-shrinking cartridges of ink. Not any more. If I want a nice, snazzy photo print, I'll go pay CVS or WalMart to shoot'em out for me. (And not have to clean a printer, either.) I was lucky to have found this printer for like $50, since everyone's disregarding the "more expensive" printers. It's also how I get my best hardware. A salvage shop sold me a Dell PowerApp machine, originally selling for $5900, for just $20; it's a mere Pentium 3. (Aw: how much power DOES it take to run today's bots?) :) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdn6L6PLtRzZbdhYRAhB/AJ9h9hGF/pjTmNqUy5DR70a0OK5IbQCeMez+ vyEBZlT9/JCoYEf3cf5KF0E= =gxUr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Wed Dec 6 08:32:09 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:32:09 +0000 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot In-Reply-To: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061206083209.GA4105@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (05/12/06 16:26), Clint Tinsley wrote: > rsync --daemon > > I am little fuzzy on configuring services in Ubuntu. > > The rsyncd sevice is nowhere to be found in the Administration tools > as far as I can tell and I don't know how to add it to the applet, if > I can. > > I have tried starting it on boot with the appropriate entries in both > rc.local and inetd.conf. I just realized I spelled it wrong in > rc.local, maybe that will work. Anyway, I would to find some good > information on configuring and starting services such as rsycnd in > Ubuntu. I did find the script for starting rsync and like I said, it > does work as I can start it from a terminal session without any > problems or errors with the command above and it works great. > > Would appreciate any light that could be shed on this. I even did a > search on the wiki but pretty much came up empty handed. To ensure rsync runs as daemon, edit /etc/inetd.conf: # rsync stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/rsync rsyncd --daemon Restart inetd as root: # /etc/init.d/inetd restart Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 6 08:52:08 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:52:08 +1100 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot In-Reply-To: <20061206083209.GA4105@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> <20061206083209.GA4105@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <20061206195208.621b9acb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:32:09 +0000 Clive Menzies wrote: > > Would appreciate any light that could be shed on this. I even did a > > search on the wiki but pretty much came up empty handed. > > To ensure rsync runs as daemon, edit /etc/inetd.conf: > # rsync stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/rsync rsyncd --daemon > Restart inetd as root: > # /etc/init.d/inetd restart $ less /etc/init.d/inetd.conf /etc/init.d/inetd.conf: No such file or directory Not there by default, and I think not needed for rsyncd. As far as i know, Ubuntu does not use inetd or xinetd .... $ apt-file search /etc/init.d/inetd netkit-inetd: etc/init.d/inetd $ apt-cache policy netkit-inetd netkit-inetd: Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 Version table: 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 0 500 http://mirror.optus.net dapper/main Packages 500 http://mirror.pacific.net.au dapper/main Packages So, the start up script does not exist, unless you install netkit-inetd , which evidently is not present by default, at least on dapper ( 6.06) Peter From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 10:18:05 2006 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:18:05 +0100 Subject: ubuntu proxy server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <379ea5900612060218o124e7098r8dca04fb1dd760ca@mail.gmail.com> On 06/12/06, YAGNESH N DESAI wrote: > This m/c has only one ethernet connection. Is there a way to make it > a proxy server just wandering. The machine I installed squid on has only one NIC. I never gave that a second thought to be honest, and as it simply worked it didn't occur to me that it could cause any problem. So this is good news for you: the proxy can get by with just one NIC. It'll send and recieve on the same IP. Good luck! Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Wed Dec 6 10:25:01 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:25:01 +0000 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot In-Reply-To: <20061206195208.621b9acb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20061205232612.71E8743F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> <20061206083209.GA4105@clivemenzies.co.uk> <20061206195208.621b9acb.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20061206102501.GC4105@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (06/12/06 19:52), Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:32:09 +0000 > Clive Menzies wrote: > > To ensure rsync runs as daemon, edit /etc/inetd.conf: > > # rsync stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/rsync rsyncd --daemon > > Restart inetd as root: > > # /etc/init.d/inetd restart > > $ less /etc/init.d/inetd.conf > /etc/init.d/inetd.conf: No such file or directory > > Not there by default, and I think not needed for rsyncd. > > As far as i know, Ubuntu does not use inetd or xinetd .... > > $ apt-file search /etc/init.d/inetd > netkit-inetd: etc/init.d/inetd > > $ apt-cache policy netkit-inetd > netkit-inetd: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 > Version table: > 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 0 > 500 http://mirror.optus.net dapper/main Packages > 500 http://mirror.pacific.net.au dapper/main Packages > > So, the start up script does not exist, unless you install netkit-inetd , > which evidently is not present by default, at least on dapper ( 6.06) Ah! Apologies. I checked on a debian server I run. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 10:26:05 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:26:05 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/6/06, Neil McLeod wrote: > Hello, > > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) crashes. > I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. > > Here is what appears in my /var/log/syslog prior to crash. I constantly get > these messages: > > Dec 5 22:39:02 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[21525]: (root) CMD ( [ -d > /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin > +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm) > > Dec 5 22:39:05 localhost cupsd: Unable to open log file > "/var/log/cups/error_log" - Permission denied [snip] > > Here are the file permissions in /var/log/cups (though I thought I had > changed the owner of error_log to cupsys at some point to try to fix the > problem): [snip] > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 1.7M 2006-12-05 23:23 error_log I don't know the answer, of course, but one thing that jumped out at me is that some of the files in /var/log/cups are owned by root instead of the cupsys user. I'm not at my own thinkpad (a z60t) to check if it is the same on my system. One thing I would try is to change the ownership of the files in that directory: sudo chown cupsys:lp /var/log/cups/* At least then the cups process can write to its own error_log and you may get more information. -Eamonn From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 6 11:33:24 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:33:24 +0100 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jared Buck wrote: > Well, I'll tell you, Linux is extremely safe and relatively > virus-proof. Most hackers and virus-writers target Windoze and Macs > rather than Linux simply because those OSes are not as secure. In my > experience using various versions of Linux, I have never had any > problems related to viruses or other things of nature. > > Yes, most Linuxes are geared towards techies, but I don't know if > you've heard of the Ubuntu deriative Edubuntu - it's geared towards > schools and education and may fit your nephews better than vanilla > Ubuntu. There are some educational software applications that you can > install from Add-Remove Software inside Ubuntu. > > Like Windows Ubuntu does require regular updates but it's not forced > on you the way Windows makes you. Generally you SHOULD update > whenever those are available but you can pick and choose what updates > you want to install. If you're using the Gnome interface (which comes > standard by the way) you'll get an alert notification at the top right > of the screen whenever an update (or updates as the case may be) is > available. > > There's a lot you can do with Ubuntu or any other Linux OS, i'd say > it's infinitely more secure than any Windows platform. > Maybe. However I understood the original poster to be looking more for a configuration that only allows child safe websites instead of looking for a generally more secure OS, which by the way, you can get from ubuntu, if you do it right. If you really want to be on the safe side, I would recommend to use the ipcop firewall with dansguardian or squidguard or urlfilter extension. It is happy with an ancient P1 hardware, easy to setup and graphically to administer, even from remote via the internet. Imho this offers you far better control than installing a proxy on the local computer. From my experience, children continuously play around and in consequence they are better in finding solutions than adults tend to be. ;-) In consequence separating the local computer and the LAN proxy might be an idea. regards Eberhard From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 6 11:34:34 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:34:34 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061206223434.7e643980.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:26:05 +0000 "Eamonn Sullivan" wrote: > I don't know the answer, of course, but one thing that jumped out at > me is that some of the files in /var/log/cups are owned by root > instead of the cupsys user. I'm not at my own thinkpad (a z60t) to > check if it is the same on my system. One thing I would try is to > change the ownership of the files in that directory: > > sudo chown cupsys:lp /var/log/cups/* > > At least then the cups process can write to its own error_log and you > may get more information. Here on dapper 6.06, all the files in /var/log/cups/* are -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp except for -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-12-06 07:35 /var/log/cups/access_log -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-12-05 08:08 /var/log/cups/error_log -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-09-25 07:36 /var/log/cups/page_log The parent directory /var/log/cups is $ ls -ld /var/log/cups drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-06 07:35 /var/log/cups So I think you are on the right track with your observations. Peter From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 11:54:26 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:54:26 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <20061206223434.7e643980.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> <20061206223434.7e643980.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: On 12/6/06, Peter Garrett wrote: > Here on dapper 6.06, all the files in /var/log/cups/* are > > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp > > except for > > -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-12-06 07:35 /var/log/cups/access_log > -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-12-05 08:08 /var/log/cups/error_log > -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-09-25 07:36 /var/log/cups/page_log > > The parent directory /var/log/cups is > > $ ls -ld /var/log/cups > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-06 07:35 /var/log/cups > > > So I think you are on the right track with your observations. I noticed too late (it's really hard to catch every thought in a long message -- sorry!) that the original poster had already tried changing the ownership of error_log to cupsys. Possibly, it's the group or directory permissions that are the problem then? -Eamonn From clintin at linuxmail.org Wed Dec 6 12:52:41 2006 From: clintin at linuxmail.org (Clint Tinsley) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:52:41 -0700 Subject: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot Message-ID: <20061206125241.299F243F04@ws5-5.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clive Menzies" > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Starting the Rsync Daemon (rsyncd) on boot > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:25:01 +0000 > > > On (06/12/06 19:52), Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:32:09 +0000 > > Clive Menzies wrote: > > > To ensure rsync runs as daemon, edit /etc/inetd.conf: > > > # rsync stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/rsync rsyncd --daemon > > > Restart inetd as root: > > > # /etc/init.d/inetd restart > > > > $ less /etc/init.d/inetd.conf > > /etc/init.d/inetd.conf: No such file or directory > > > > Not there by default, and I think not needed for rsyncd. > > > > As far as i know, Ubuntu does not use inetd or xinetd .... > > > > $ apt-file search /etc/init.d/inetd > > netkit-inetd: etc/init.d/inetd > > > > $ apt-cache policy netkit-inetd > > netkit-inetd: > > Installed: (none) > > Candidate: 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 > > Version table: > > 0.10-10.2ubuntu1 0 > > 500 http://mirror.optus.net dapper/main Packages > > 500 http://mirror.pacific.net.au dapper/main Packages > > > > So, the start up script does not exist, unless you install netkit-inetd , > > which evidently is not present by default, at least on dapper ( 6.06) > > Ah! Apologies. I checked on a debian server I run. Thanks for your insights. I too came to the conclusion that Dapper does not use inetd. Basically to get it working, I defined the rysncd data paths in rsyncd.conf which is not present, has to be created. Then I modified my rc.local to include two lines so that permissions would be set and the rsync daemon would be started on boot. rc.local .... chown -R nobody:users /home/user/Data rsync --daemon .... rsyncd.conf gid = user max connections = 0 transfer logging = true log format = %h %o %f %l %b log file = /var/log/rsyncd.log [DATA] path = /home/user/Data comment = test rsync area for DATA read only = no chroot = no timeout = 3600 hosts allow = 192.168.0.10 hosts deny = * Clint From hamza.zahid at corporits.com Wed Dec 6 13:17:47 2006 From: hamza.zahid at corporits.com (hamza.zahid at corporits.com) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:17:47 +0500 Subject: I am Out of Office Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 6 01:54:42 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:54:42 -0400 Subject: Kmail: check spelling as you type References: <200612051353.30157.pubmb01@skynet.be> <46rg44-c7h.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <200612061055.58367.james@gray.net.au> Message-ID: <2gkh44-7lm.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> James Gray wrote: > On Wednesday 06 December 2006 05:42, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Bruno Costacurta wrote: >> > Hello, >> > few questions about kmail related to 'check spelling as you type' >> > fonctionality : >> > >> > - how to enable/disable it ? >> > - how to modifiy language ? >> > - is the language used for checking independent of the language use by >> > KDE environment (ie. menus) ? >> > - is it possible to use more than one language in the check spelling ? >> >> This is strictly not an Ubuntu problem, and really belongs on the Kubuntu >> list. > > You can run KDE apps under Ubuntu...so why turn people away from this > list? FWIW, I subscribe to both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu lists So do I - and you'll note I made no attempt to reroute this thread over there. I advised it because I've known Gnome types to get hot under the collar about KDE problems on this list (not recently, I admit). > Personally, I don't see a big distinction > (especially seeing as KDE and Gnome can share the same spelling > configuration via Aspell etc). I'd rather not even have two lists, but that's the way it is. -- derek From systemansvarlig at vagaungdomsskule.no Wed Dec 6 14:24:33 2006 From: systemansvarlig at vagaungdomsskule.no (Erling Ringen Elvsrud) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:24:33 +0100 Subject: Feisty: Intel 945GM with xserver-xorg-video-intel, Problem with vga-out and resolution Message-ID: <1165415073.24302.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I have installed the xserver-xorg-video-intel package and updated xorg.conf[1] in order to get adequate OpenGL performance. The i810 driver is unreliable in Google Earth which my users want. All well exept vga-out. I connect the laptop to a HP vp6325 projector and press Fn+F8 once to activate vga-out. It works well but with a weird resolution. The projector displays the picture in a widescreen resolution 1360x768. xdpyinfo or xrandr reports 1024x768 even if it is clearly different on the canvas. This is serious issue for my non technical users. The projector setup works well with Dapper (get 1024x768 resolution on the canvas). Any advice is appreciated. Erling From sguercio at ccr.buffalo.edu Wed Dec 6 14:27:49 2006 From: sguercio at ccr.buffalo.edu (Salvatore J Guercio) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:27:49 -0500 Subject: HAL Crashes on Ubuntu 6.10 Message-ID: <4576D365.5020400@ccr.buffalo.edu> Dear Ubuntu Users, I hope that someone out there can help me, I am all out of ideas...... I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell Optiplex GX270. I had to install from the Alternate CD because the Desktop CD would get to the point in the installation where is was detecting hardware (90%) and it would just sit there until I cycled power. The alternate CD got me all the way through the installation without problems, but I noticed that when I log in to gnome , I get the "Failed to initialize HAL" error message that I see regularly in the mailing lists. I do not have autologin enabled and I do not have any samba shares in my fstab. I also noticed that the system will not power down or restart properly, it just sits at a blinking cursor, I need to cycle power to get it to reboot. Also not working and probably related are the gnome device manager (crashes immediately) and any sort of USB key devices. However, my keyboard and mouse are USB and they work just fine. I also noticed that when logging into gnome as root, I do not get the "Failed to Initialize HAL" , however all the other problems listed above are still there. Upon further investigation of dmesg, it looks like when hald starts up, it crashes on me. Here is the output from a dbus restart: The kernel is 2.6.17-10-generic. testuser at testbox:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart Password: * Stopping System Tools Backends system-tools-backends [ ok ] * Stopping Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon [fail] * Stopping Hardware abstraction layer hald [ ok ] * Stopping system message bus dbus [ ok ] * Starting system message bus dbus [ ok ] * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] Oops: 0000 [#2] Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] SMP Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] CPU: 0 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] EIP is at sysfs_follow_link+0x139/0x250 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] eax: 00000000 ebx: 00000001 ecx: ffffffff edx: ffffffff Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] esi: 00000000 edi: 30383d44 ebp: 00000001 esp: e8a53ec0 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] Process hald (pid: 6029, threadinfo=e8a52000 task=e725aa90) Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] Stack: c1bae4bc e8a53ef4 e93a8000 ffffffea c1bae58c c1bae4bc 00000001 c0372a80 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] f7e81198 00000100 080a4028 c01785f3 f7d5766c fffffff7 080a2e84 e59c3a40 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] 00000000 e8a52000 e8a53f50 4576d1e2 00000000 00000100 c018e92c 00000001 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] Call Trace: Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] generic_readlink+0x33/0x90 __mark_inode_dirty+0x5c/0x190 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] sys_readlinkat+0x93/0xd0 filldir64+0x0/0xe0 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] filldir64+0x0/0xe0 vfs_readdir+0x85/0xb0 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] sys_readlink+0x27/0x30 sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] Code: 31 ed 8b 40 24 83 c5 01 85 c0 75 f6 8b 54 24 14 bb 01 00 00 00 31 f6 89 14 24 ba ff ff ff ff 8d 76 00 8b 0c 24 89 f0 8b 39 89 d1 ae f7 d1 49 8d 5c 19 01 8b 0c 24 8b 49 24 85 c9 89 0c 24 75 Message from syslogd at testbox at Wed Dec 6 09:21:22 2006 ... testbox kernel: [17179880.152000] EIP: [sysfs_follow_link+313/592] sysfs_follow_link+0x139/0x250 SS:ESP 0068:e8a53ec0 run-parts: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal exited with return code 1 * Starting System Tools Backends system-tools-backends This is from dmesg from startup: [17179607.892000] apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) [17179607.892000] apm: overridden by ACPI. [17179608.156000] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 30383d44 [17179608.156000] printing eip: [17179608.156000] c01ad9d9 [17179608.156000] *pde = 00000000 [17179608.156000] Oops: 0000 [#1] [17179608.156000] SMP [17179608.156000] Modules linked in: speedstep_lib cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats freq_table cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_conservative video tc1100_wmi sbs sony_acpi pcc_acpi i2c_ec hotkey dev_acpi button battery container ac asus_acpi lp tsdev snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_ac97_bus snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss sg e1000 usbhid pcilynx ieee1394 i2c_algo_bit i2c_core sd_mod snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc pcspkr psmouse serio_raw intel_agp agpgart evdev shpchp pci_hotplug floppy parport_pc parport ide_floppy ext3 jbd ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore ide_generic aic7xxx scsi_transport_spi ata_piix libata scsi_mod ide_disk piix generic thermal processor fan fbcon tileblit font bitblit softcursor vesafb capability commoncap [17179608.156000] CPU: 0 [17179608.156000] EIP: 0060:[] Not tainted VLI [17179608.156000] EFLAGS: 00010246 (2.6.17-10-generic #2) [17179608.156000] EIP is at sysfs_follow_link+0x139/0x250 [17179608.156000] eax: 00000000 ebx: 00000001 ecx: ffffffff edx: ffffffff [17179608.156000] esi: 00000000 edi: 30383d44 ebp: 00000001 esp: f7ff5ec0 [17179608.156000] ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 [17179608.156000] Process hald (pid: 4048, threadinfo=f7ff4000 task=c195aa90) [17179608.156000] Stack: c1bae4bc f7ff5ef4 f7e82000 ffffffea c1bae58c c1bae4bc 00000001 c0372a80 [17179608.156000] f7e81198 00000100 080a4028 c01785f3 f7d5766c fffffff7 080a2e84 df8db9c0 [17179608.156000] 00000000 f7ff4000 f7ff5f50 4576d0d3 00000000 00000100 c01276f0 00000001 [17179608.156000] Call Trace: [17179608.156000] generic_readlink+0x33/0x90 current_fs_time+0x50/0x60 [17179608.156000] touch_atime+0x5d/0xb0 sys_readlinkat+0x93/0xd0 [17179608.156000] filldir64+0x0/0xe0 filldir64+0x0/0xe0 [17179608.156000] vfs_readdir+0x85/0xb0 sys_readlink+0x27/0x30 [17179608.156000] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 [17179608.156000] Code: 31 ed 8b 40 24 83 c5 01 85 c0 75 f6 8b 54 24 14 bb 01 00 00 00 31 f6 89 14 24 ba ff ff ff ff 8d 76 00 8b 0c 24 89 f0 8b 39 89 d1 ae f7 d1 49 8d 5c 19 01 8b 0c 24 8b 49 24 85 c9 89 0c 24 75 [17179608.156000] EIP: [] sysfs_follow_link+0x139/0x250 SS:ESP 0068:f7ff5ec0 [17179608.156000] <6>NET: Registered protocol family 10 [17179608.488000] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [17179608.492000] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver [17179608.752000] ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team [17179608.824000] Netfilter messages via NETLINK v0.30. [17179608.840000] ip_conntrack version 2.4 (8187 buckets, 65496 max) - 224 bytes per conntrack [17179619.284000] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [17179700.872000] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [17179701.128000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 185 [17179701.128000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9631 Thu Nov 9 17:38:10 PST 2006 [17179759.944000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 185 [17179759.944000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9631 Thu Nov 9 17:38:10 PST 2006 [17179760.004000] agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. [17179760.004000] agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode [17179760.004000] agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 8x mode There is no special hardware in this machine except for the Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 AGP graphics card. I am running the latest version of the Nvidia driver directly from Nvidia. The problem is there regardless of what version of nvidia driver I use. I have tried all of the ubuntu 2.6.17 kernels and I am currently running a 2.6.19 kernel that was built against the 2.6.17-generic config file and the behavior is the same. I am not sure what else to try. Does anyone have any suggestions or hopefully a solution? Thanks! Sam From asturiolists at gmx.net Wed Dec 6 14:32:35 2006 From: asturiolists at gmx.net (Claudio Clemens) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:32:35 +0100 Subject: SDL In-Reply-To: <1164411858.5848.1.camel@localhost> References: <1164411858.5848.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061206143235.GA5569@thorion.karameikos.my> 2006-11-24, 18:44 -0500, John Dangler: > I've been looking into a first-person single/multi-player shooter to try > out. cube and sauerbraten look like likely candidates, but i get errors > after installing them that it cannot find the sdl lib. I've installed > libsdl1.2-debian, and libsdl1.2-debian-alsa, but this hasn't helped. Is > there something else I need? You probably need to install the development packages. libsdl1.2-dev and so on. HTH, Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. Claudio Clemens |------| Sarge |-------+ | : :' : asturio at gmx (.) net GNU/Linux User #79942 | | `. `' http://asturio.gmxhome.de/begin.html | | `- "YE GODS, I HAVE FEET??!" <- Userfriendly | God ist not real, but probably integer... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From haniganwork at earthlik.net Wed Dec 6 15:16:05 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:16:05 -0600 Subject: Palm question Message-ID: <1165418165.21137.4.camel@star> Earlier someone told me that palms work with ubuntu. I am going to buy my husband a PALM Z22. Now I need to know what software I will need to install so it will work so I can get it set up for him. I did some searches and see talk of gnome-pilot and gpilot. I assume these are two different programs that do the same thing. Does anybody have recommendations on what is simplest and or works the best. Thanks Linda From kristian at zimmer428.net Wed Dec 6 15:21:21 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:21:21 +0100 Subject: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in edgy? Message-ID: <4576DFF1.80300@zimmer428.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks; we're running MySQL MaxDB on several machines (both in production and in testbed systems), and when trying to get it installed on edgy, so far I completely failed to create any database instance. Trying to figure out this behaviour, I found that MaxDB uses LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to work around several threading-related issues with different versions of the Linux kernel (see http://dev.mysql.com/doc/maxdb/changes/changes_7.5.00.26.html#DBMServer to read more). However, that's not really the point. Comparing dapper and edgy, things are like that (x_server is MaxDB's core communication server): - - box #1 (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS): #> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 x_server update 12916 XSERVER Found other running x_server with version 'X32/LINUX 7.5.0 Build 038-121-133-420' 12926 XSERVER Version after update 'X32/LINUX 7.5.0 Build 038-121-133-420' - - box #2 (Ubuntu 6.10): #> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 x_server status x_server: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory What's the point here? Why is this working in dapper and "broken"(?) in egdy? Did I miss something (libraries, packages, ...)? Anything I can do about this (besides downgrading my testbed system to dapper)? Thanks in advance for any hints... Cheers, Kristian - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdt/xcxBAPOA1m6wRAlShAJwO+Nl+XBISYPDrzPGEIQZs2rr14ACgnNOR zJnKnTw871pywBy1u/jCqEU= =oG4y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tchize at myrealbox.com Wed Dec 6 15:42:54 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:42:54 +0100 Subject: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in edgy? In-Reply-To: <4576DFF1.80300@zimmer428.net> References: <4576DFF1.80300@zimmer428.net> Message-ID: <4576E4FE.4000609@myrealbox.com> In fact, the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL is really the point. It tell the libc to disscus assuming it speaking to kernel version X (OS ABI). However, there has been changes in the ABI from 2.4 to 2.6. At that time (years ago), i remember several suggestions to use LD_ASSUME_KERNEL, typically on application that were manually loading plugins or compiled for older ABI. This was meant to be a temporary workaround, not a definitive solution. The MaxDB can not safetly assume it's speaking to a 2.4.1 kernel when it is facing a 2.6.17 one. As for the why it works on dapper and not on edgy, it's probably because edgy kernel is more recent and thus has dropped old api, or that the shipped libc is mor recent on edgy and do not support old 2.4 way. Either remove the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL or stay with the Dapper long term support. Kristian Rink a écrit : > > Folks; > > we're running MySQL MaxDB on several machines (both in production and in > testbed systems), and when trying to get it installed on edgy, so far I > completely failed to create any database instance. Trying to figure out > this behaviour, I found that MaxDB uses LD_ASSUME_KERNEL to work around > several threading-related issues with different versions of the Linux > kernel (see > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/maxdb/changes/changes_7.5.00.26.html#DBMServer > to read more). > > > However, that's not really the point. Comparing dapper and edgy, things > are like that (x_server is MaxDB's core communication server): > > > > - box #1 (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS): > > #> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 x_server update > > 12916 XSERVER Found other running x_server with version 'X32/LINUX > 7.5.0 Build 038-121-133-420' > 12926 XSERVER Version after update 'X32/LINUX 7.5.0 Build > 038-121-133-420' > > > > > - box #2 (Ubuntu 6.10): > > #> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 x_server status > > x_server: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > > What's the point here? Why is this working in dapper and "broken"(?) in > egdy? Did I miss something (libraries, packages, ...)? Anything I can do > about this (besides downgrading my testbed system to dapper)? > > > Thanks in advance for any hints... > Cheers, > Kristian > > > > > > > From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Wed Dec 6 16:48:01 2006 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:48:01 +0100 Subject: [help!!!!!!] laptop In-Reply-To: <200611021103.29537.vincent.arnoux@rfo.atmel.com> References: <45497A5E.2030907@gmail.com> <1162444234.8557.5.camel@metion> <4549A78A.3070607@gmail.com> <200611021103.29537.vincent.arnoux@rfo.atmel.com> Message-ID: <20061206164801.GC27158@gmx.de> hi Beinan, >I did the trick meanwhile to remove in the power management settings the >option "Power off when battery is critical", but that didn't help to >calibrate the battery. As described by Vincent, did you change power management settings option "Power off when battery is critical" to "Never"? I am on edgy and today had the same problem. My Fujitsu siements laptop booted down while I turned it on in battery mode. This just occured today. I never faced this problem with dapper or edgy before. Regards, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Wed Dec 6 16:50:36 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:50:36 +0100 Subject: cyrus+sieve Message-ID: Hello, I'm working on cyrus+sieve here. Now it seems to work fine except that I have several scripts created but only one of them can be activated at a time, when I activate one script the other one gets deactivated. Any help? thanks martin From wade at wadesmart.com Wed Dec 6 17:33:02 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:33:02 -0600 Subject: The End of Linux Message-ID: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> 12062006 1132 GMT-6 http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally falls apart. Wade From terrence at terrencevak.net Wed Dec 6 17:44:41 2006 From: terrence at terrencevak.net (terrence at terrencevak.net) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:44:41 -0900 (AKST) Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 Message-ID: I tried reverssing the positions of my 2 ram sticks, but doing that didn't even get me past my computer's initial splash screen. Is there possibly something I should do with the boot record itself to get it back? I'm running my other OS off the CD since it's the only thing that runs anymore, so am using only command-line programs. Thanks, Terrence From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Wed Dec 6 17:59:01 2006 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:59:01 +0100 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <457704E5.1050307@uni-graz.at> Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. > > Wade > > > /OpenBSD user, if you would like to know. / / /Please not another "BSD vs. Linux" flame war ... Dieter From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Dec 6 18:06:54 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:06:54 -0500 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> That guy talks straight through his ass... I've been around Unix since 1976 (6 years after it's inception), and seen so many advances take place over the last (OMG!) 30 years, that I can't even count them all any more. So, from what this nutball is saying - a) Sun, Hewlett-Packard, Dec, Unisys, Cray, Sequent, Singer-Link/Harris, Siemens, etc - will all close up shop completely or switch their systems to a microshaft solution. b) Cisco, Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Dell, IBM, Siebold, SAP, COGNOS etc - will stop producing every product that is implemented on a Unix/Linux platform and re-develop all of their personal, small business, and enterprise solutions with a microshaft implementation only. c) efforts like sourceforge, open systems alliance, OSF, FSF, etc - will be abandoned completely, since all microshaft products are strictly per-seat controlled, and no one would _ever_ get access to source code. d) community forums for the exchange of ideas and new product concepts would cease entirely, since all of our requirements and specifications for any and all software products/implementations would _magically appear_ in the next release of winbloze... e) It's all happening already (according to the author, this would be taking place in the _early 200x_). Ok. Shut down this user group, because we shouldn't be talking about any _new_ ideas, comrades... On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:33 -0600, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. > > Wade > > From ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us Wed Dec 6 18:10:49 2006 From: ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us (Abraham Rolick) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:10:49 -0800 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: "Why would Linux loose" ... this contributor needs a grammar checker in addition to a spell checker. :P 1. Many of the GUIs available for X.org have their own features that even Windows lacks. Do you need a hammer? Or a screwdriver? The user will decide which tool they need (hopefully) based on what works best for them. For example, at work I rely on my Windows XP workstation because of the strong integration with A.D. that I need to administer multiple Exchange 2003 servers, domain controllers, etc. But when I'm developing at home, Linux is my choice for many reasons that I won't get into here. 2. Undoubtedly, the larger any project gets, the more complex it gets and the more difficult it is to understand. Everybody knows this. What's his point? Does he think that Microsoft does have a complexity barrier? Ha! 3. And his third reason? Huh? What is a "really smart project?" And which ones have been dropped because developers prefer the console over a GUI? If these developers preferred less Windows-ish OSes, is he implying that less competent persons are developing all of the graphical applications we have available today? I don't get it. -Abe -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Wade Smart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:33 AM To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions; Yahoo Ubuntu Linux Subject: The End of Linux 12062006 1132 GMT-6 http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally falls apart. Wade -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From pd.yates at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 18:10:55 2006 From: pd.yates at gmail.com (Peter Yates) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:10:55 +0000 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: FTA: "...The GNOME project is a good example. Being initially intended to provide the IBM OS/2 user experience it gained vendor attention. When the project's officials started to state that the next goal of the project was the Windows UI..." Obviously this guy knows his stuff. Do yourself a favour and don't post any more of this crap On 06/12/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. > > Wade > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jared.buck at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 18:12:53 2006 From: jared.buck at gmail.com (Jared Buck) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:12:53 -0800 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> Message-ID: LOL, that guy is just talking a load of c***p. Probably drunk wayyyy too much vodka. Linux is here to stay, and it being free of course, there will always be people who won't want to buy Windoze and would be looking for a free option. As most Linux distros (including our Ubuntu) are freely downloadable. I've never had a problem with any linux distro I've run, be it Ubuntu, Fedora Core or one of the lesser-known distros. On 12/6/06, John Dangler wrote: > That guy talks straight through his ass... > I've been around Unix since 1976 (6 years after it's inception), and > seen so many advances take place over the last (OMG!) 30 years, that I > can't even count them all any more. > So, from what this nutball is saying - > a) Sun, Hewlett-Packard, Dec, Unisys, Cray, Sequent, Singer-Link/Harris, > Siemens, etc - will all close up shop completely or switch their systems > to a microshaft solution. > b) Cisco, Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Dell, IBM, Siebold, SAP, COGNOS etc > - will stop producing every product that is implemented on a Unix/Linux > platform and re-develop all of their personal, small business, and > enterprise solutions with a microshaft implementation only. > c) efforts like sourceforge, open systems alliance, OSF, FSF, etc - will > be abandoned completely, since all microshaft products are strictly > per-seat controlled, and no one would _ever_ get access to source code. > d) community forums for the exchange of ideas and new product concepts > would cease entirely, since all of our requirements and specifications > for any and all software products/implementations would _magically > appear_ in the next release of winbloze... > e) It's all happening already (according to the author, this would be > taking place in the _early 200x_). > > Ok. Shut down this user group, because we shouldn't be talking about > any _new_ ideas, comrades... > > On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:33 -0600, Wade Smart wrote: > > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > > falls apart. > > > > Wade > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 18:26:00 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:26:00 -0100 Subject: Panda3d in Ubuntu Message-ID: Hello all, I would like to be able to use this great software to write education software for Ubuntu. I used to write professional preschool education software on the C64. Can we get Panda3d into the repositories? It is great software that fits well with python. It would allow the development of great education software as well as games in 2d and 3d. It is very easy to learn to write with. It only took me 2 days part time to make a 3d program that lets one fly about the solar system and see the planets and the shadows of them on each other using my old Breezy system. http://www.panda3d.org/ I run a amd64 x2 am2 system. I would like to be able to use this great software to write education software for Ubuntu. The current ed software is not up to par IMOHO. What are the steps needed to get this into the Ubuntu system, so that everyone could use what was written with it? Thanks Douglas -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From gcvisel at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 18:34:24 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:34:24 -0600 Subject: Palm question In-Reply-To: <1165418165.21137.4.camel@star> References: <1165418165.21137.4.camel@star> Message-ID: <76800d9c0612061034v4746e948y23534aa1dc06b5f2@mail.gmail.com> Linda, I have an old Palm Vx that synced just fine with the Evolution email app right out of the box with Edgy. It does give me a memory full message on syncs as it tries to back up everything on the Palm, but everything seems to be there fine. When I had Dapper, it did not sync. Gerry Visel On 12/6/06, Linda Hanigan wrote: > Earlier someone told me that palms work with ubuntu. I am going to buy > my husband a PALM Z22. Now I need to know what software I will need to > install so it will work so I can get it set up for him. I did some > searches and see talk of gnome-pilot and gpilot. I assume these are two > different programs that do the same thing. Does anybody have > recommendations on what is simplest and or works the best. > Thanks > Linda > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From phummers at iname.com Wed Dec 6 18:34:26 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:34:26 -0500 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:33:02 -0600 Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. The author's main point seems to suggest that there can be no combination of WYSIWYG and command-line interfaces, which is rubbish on its face (except in Gnome, maybe, where the file browser won't even let you "Open Terminal Here" in a window). Linux may never get 95% of PC marketshare, but that doesn't mean it will vanish from the face of the earth. Per the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" ( http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ald3 ) model, large proprietary organizations (Like MS and Apple) are always in more jeopardy than grassroots efforts. The author is an OpenBSD user and free software advocate, so he may mean that specifically Linux is in danger, not the BSD's, but even so, his arguments are all bollocks. -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From waqasnasirtoor at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 18:46:47 2006 From: waqasnasirtoor at gmail.com (Waqas Toor) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:46:47 +0500 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <35ed129f0612061046o35dd4b26i395ca8949857142e@mail.gmail.com> > Wade Smart wrote: > > > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > > falls apart. why these people dont understand ... andy tannenbaum said those words far back when linux as born ... but look who won the webserver market ? as long as the world is a free place their will be revolutions against the giants ... and linux is doing very great by providing these revolutions and things now comming to linux then to Microsoft ... google is the best example working with linux -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team waqas at ubuntu-pk.org http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ From ralph.thaller at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 19:37:00 2006 From: ralph.thaller at gmail.com (Ralph Thaller) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:37:00 +0100 Subject: Counterstrike with wine Message-ID: Hi! when i want to run counterstriek with wine it always freezes when i want to join or start a server, shortly befor the team choose. the output looks like this: ralph at nb-thal-ral:~/.wine/drive_c/valve/condtion zero$ wine czero.exe fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_GetAvailableTextureMem (0x1b5b00) : stub, simulating 64MB for now, returning 64MB left fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000013) fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) fixme:d3d:IWineD3DStateBlockImpl_Release Releasing primary stateblock err:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode Resolution change not successful -- perhaps display has changed? fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise (0x1fae88)->(1 00000002 0x6c9ff0) fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x1fae88) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device for direct access (Input/output error) err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Please run winecfg, open "Audio" page and set "Hardware Acceleration" to "Emulation". err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag not set This sound card's driver does not support direct access The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise (0x63790b8)->(1 00000002 0xefb398) fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x63790b8) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise (0x6379740)->(1 00000002 0xf605f0) fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x6379740) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate (0x63790b8) fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x63790b8) fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x63790b8)->(1) err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag not set This sound card's driver does not support direct access The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_QueryStatus (0x1faf24)->((null) 1 0x33f120 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) 25 2 0x33f134 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) 26 2 0x33f134 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-709 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) 0x33f088) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) 0x33f048) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) 0x33f088) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) 0x33f048) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) 0x33f088) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5513 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) 0x33f088) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-726 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) 0x33f088) fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1faf24)->(0x33f160) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->({000214d1-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} 37 0 0x33f284 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f274 (nil) 0x33f158) fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f264 (nil) 0x33f158) fixme:shdocvw:HttpNegotiate_BeginningTransaction (0x63130b8)->(L"" L"" 0 0x33f298) fixme:shdocvw:BindStatusCallback_GetBindInfo (0x63130b8)->(0x33f29c 0x33f1c0) fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate (0x6379740) fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x6379740) fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x6379740)->(1) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) 29 2 0x33f430 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:DocHostUIHandler_GetDropTarget (0x1faf24) fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1faf24)->(0x33f31c) fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceFrame_SetStatusText (0x1faf24)->(0xb7e285a9) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) 25 2 0x33f258 (nil)) fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) 26 2 0x33f258 (nil)) fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollWidth (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e58) fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollHeight (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e5c) anyone an idea? 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URL: From stude.list at googlemail.com Wed Dec 6 20:05:09 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:05:09 +0000 Subject: Panda3d in Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0612061205j5ebd5267x9e0c7bb3475ddef0@mail.gmail.com> On 06/12/06, Knapp wrote: > Hello all, hi > Can we get Panda3d into the repositories? Which repository? The people who made it decided that we need yet another software license, any lawyers want to adjudicate on whether its Free or Non-Free? I couple of sticking points in the license: from the license [0]: > An electronic copy of the source code for major modifications that You make > to the Software should be forwarded to Licensor at > Panda.Project at Disney.com as soon as the modifications are significant > or stable enough for Licensor's evaluation for possible future distribution. Many would argue this now makes the software non-free. If you don't have email access, or are stranded on a desert island you can not privately modify the software. The main reason for asking whether it should count as free or non-free is this is what determines which repository the software can be placed into. Main and Universe for free software Restricted and Multiverse for non-free (its not going to get into restricted, that's only for essential things) > What are the steps needed to get this into the Ubuntu > system, so that everyone could use what was written with it? Luckily someone wrote a wiki page on this: (MOTU = Masters of the Universe) or you could check MOTU Schools (sessions normally held on IRC, but it has information from past sessions to read) Seems there appears to be a packaged version already it should make things easier, still should have a maintainer though. Ah I think this is non free software I just noticed this: from license [0]: > The Software may not be downloaded or otherwise exported or reexported > (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Libya, North Korea, Iran, Syria, > or any other country to which the U.S. has embargoed goods; or (ii) to anyone > on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals or the > U.S. Commerce Department's Table of Deny Orders. from the Open Source definition [1] > 5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups > > The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons. from the explanation of that point [1]: > Some countries, including the United States, have export restrictions for > certain types of software. An OSD-conformant license may warn licensees of > applicable restrictions and remind them that they are obliged to obey the law; > however, it may not incorporate such restrictions itself. You will have to find out how to get this in multiverse, shouldn't be a problem though, Ubuntu doesn't really give a stuff about free or open source software anymore (or at least they don't in Feisty). _ Andy [0] http://www.panda3d.org/license.php [1] http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us Wed Dec 6 20:19:10 2006 From: ARolick at fillmore.k12.ca.us (Abraham Rolick) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:19:10 -0800 Subject: Panda3d in Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <219482c0612061205j5ebd5267x9e0c7bb3475ddef0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > from the license [0]: > > An electronic copy of the source code for major modifications that You make > > to the Software should be forwarded to Licensor at > > Panda.Project at Disney.com as soon as the modifications are significant > > or stable enough for Licensor's evaluation for possible future distribution. > Many would argue this now makes the software non-free. > If you don't have email access, or are stranded on a desert island you > can not privately modify the software. IMO, this is a pretty crappy license. Is this leaving the "significant or stable enough for Licensor's evaluation" up to the end user's interpretation? As you get sued, just argue "but it wasn't stable enough!" lol From davidm at imcu.com Wed Dec 6 20:30:36 2006 From: davidm at imcu.com (David McSpadden) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:30:36 -0500 Subject: Acer TravelMate 512 fails Ubuntu 6.06 install Message-ID: <036a01c71975$6386dfc0$5132000a@imcu.local> I have an Acer laying around and I am trying to install Ubuntu on it just for grins. Somewhere after the mouse appears on the screen it just goes bye bye. No harddrive activity, No monitor activity, and no way to access it except to reboot it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Wed Dec 6 20:50:14 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:50:14 -0600 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <45772D06.8050909@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. In a way similar to stories of [Whatever Microsoft is about to release] not being accepted by industry, these claims are typical of an operating system that can't be stopped. Don' worry. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdy0G6PLtRzZbdhYRAvyHAJ0YRPAyymZjPgo/MJ0FPXw1u+uSFQCeMLYz XiaC2oRdisP72Ho+flsiuac= =NRQJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From luca76 at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 20:54:32 2006 From: luca76 at gmail.com (Luca Manganelli) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:54:32 +0100 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: On 12/6/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 This sounds like "Ubuntu will end" (by Mandriva CEO) From scamot2004 at gmx.at Wed Dec 6 20:58:16 2006 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:58:16 +0100 Subject: Acer TravelMate 512 fails Ubuntu 6.06 install In-Reply-To: <036a01c71975$6386dfc0$5132000a@imcu.local> References: <036a01c71975$6386dfc0$5132000a@imcu.local> Message-ID: <20061206215816.55b10327@localhost> Hi ! That Looks like the problems I had on my hp6110nx (graphics : intel 915gm) when installing Dapper : 1. CD defect (I hadn't checked it for defects prior to install) 2. a Xserver compatibility. As I was lazy to configure/update xserver, I just installed EDGY successfully. sc On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:30:36 -0500 "David McSpadden" wrote: > I have an Acer laying around and I am trying to install Ubuntu on it > just for grins. Somewhere after the mouse appears on the screen it > just goes bye bye. No harddrive activity, No monitor activity, and > no way to access it except to reboot it. From wade at wadesmart.com Wed Dec 6 21:02:25 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:02:25 -0600 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC Message-ID: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> 12062006 1500 GMT-6 My friend has a new PS3 (amazing I know) and we wanted to play it online. Right now I only have this computer which is wired into my cable modem and my laptop which is wireless. What I wanted to do is, I want to plug the PS3 into my laptop and allow internet connection sharing to work (my wifes ThinkPad with WindozXP) and then my old PS2 direct into the cable modem. Its the wireless part that Im having trouble with. Is this even possible? wade From psalmos at swissinfo.org Thu Dec 7 00:44:52 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:44:52 +1000 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <45776404.3000106@swissinfo.org> Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 A Russian intellectual property lawyer? LOL! They must be kidding. Good one, thank you very much :-) My favourite line in the whole tirade: "...the GNOME adoption fastened when the developers starter to decrease the features amount..." Adoption fastened? Developers starter? Features amount? Does 'decrease' really mean 'increase'? Babel fish? Nikolai simply a Russian intellectual From almilis at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 00:55:54 2006 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:55:54 +0700 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <36135600612061655p6ffc014bgde183cdd9315cfc3@mail.gmail.com> > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 "Dmitrij D. Czarkoff is a Russian intellectual property and insurance lawyer, spending his free time on free software advocacy and UNIXes promotion. OpenBSD user, if you would like to know." Vodka lawyer... hm... should read Silberschatz et. al. first, lah! -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From ulrich at barfuss-jerusalem.org Thu Dec 7 01:01:34 2006 From: ulrich at barfuss-jerusalem.org (Ulrich Steffens) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:01:34 +0100 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 13:34 -0500 schrieb Peter Hummers: > The author's main point seems to suggest that there can be no combination > of WYSIWYG and command-line interfaces, which is rubbish on its face > (except in Gnome, maybe, where the file browser won't even let you > "Open Terminal Here" in a window). sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal ;) ulrich From phummers at iname.com Thu Dec 7 01:04:14 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:04:14 -0500 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> Message-ID: <20061206200414.6237037f.phummers@iname.com> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:01:34 +0100 Ulrich Steffens wrote: > > (except in Gnome, maybe, where the file browser won't even let you > > "Open Terminal Here" in a window). > > sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal Thanks; I'll stick with Thunar -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 01:40:52 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 03:40:52 +0200 Subject: Cannot remove flash memory In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00611282124r782243f1t9f24b4ad7b8376f4@mail.gmail.com> <456DBB23.2000207@hampshire.edu> <880dece00611290947l376631d0u520b68bfc8ed15a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612061740s6988c5a1qd85d8992b73e22a6@mail.gmail.com> On 29/11/06, Toby Dickenson wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I've always heard that one should never pull out a USB stick when the > > led is lit or flashing. Does anybody else have a second opinion? > > Which kde versions are you using? some recent hal/kde updates have caused > problems for usb sticks: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/70417 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/72869 > > > > At that point, the icon disappears, but the > > > LED on the USB unit turns on, and never turns off. So I cannot remove > > > the device. > > First check if the device is still mounted, using the mount command: > > $ mount > /dev/hda8 on / type reiserfs (rw) > proc on /proc type proc (rw) > > /dev/sda1 on /media/STICK type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime, > uid=1001,utf8,shortname=lower) > > You should be able to unmount it with the pumount command. If this fails, it > will often give a better error message that kde. For example in this case I > still had konqueror window open: > > $ pumount /media/STICK/ > umount: /media/STICK: device is busy > umount: /media/STICK: device is busy > Error: umount failed > > After unmounting there is still no guarantee that all the data has been > written. Particularly if you have a slow memory stick. Try the > command 'sync'. This will only return when all outstanding data has been > written. > > If anything seems to be going wrong then check /var/log/syslog for kernel > error messages. > > I hope this helps. > Sorry for the late reply, I was moving house. I still cannot unmount that USB stick: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sync dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/hda9 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /home/dotancohen/music type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda5 on /home/dotancohen/pictures type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda6 on /home/dotancohen/video1 type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /home/dotancohen/video2 type ext3 (rw) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ pumount /dev/sda1 umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy Error: umount failed dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda1 umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ eject /dev/sda1 umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy Error: umount failed eject: unmount of `/media/usbdisk' failed dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ The light stay lit, solid. This is the access light, not the "I'm connected" light, which this model (Sandisk Cruzer Micro 2GB) does not have. Note that I even removed the U3 garbage from it, no improvment. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html From garryknight at gmx.net Thu Dec 7 01:28:48 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:28:48 +0000 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: Wade Smart wrote: > My friend has a new PS3 (amazing I know) and we wanted to play it > online. Right now I only have this computer which is wired into my cable > modem and my laptop which is wireless. And your wireless laptop connects to what? > What I wanted to do is, I want to plug the PS3 into my laptop and allow > internet connection sharing to work (my wifes ThinkPad with WindozXP) > and then my old PS2 direct into the cable modem. And the ThinkPad connects to what? > Its the wireless part that Im having trouble with. It's visualizing the whole setup that I'm having trouble with. Could you draw a diagram? It seems to me that as long as you get the two or more wireless bits talking to each other (and Ad-Hoc mode with fixed IPs might be your best route) then all you need is to make sure that each machine on the LAN knows its default gateway. Oh, and the gateway machine needs to be set up for NAT (Network Address Translation), which you do by installing certain firewall rules - on Linux at least; if the WinXP machine is the gateway, then I assume you've already set it up for ICS. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From wade at wadesmart.com Thu Dec 7 01:55:51 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:55:51 -0600 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC In-Reply-To: References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <1165456551.5322.87.camel@wadesmart> 12062006 1953 GMT-6 Sorry about that. I'll describe this out. My computer is hooked directly to the cable modem and the laptop is wireless to the same cable modem. If I hook the PS2 directly to the modem in place of my computer and then use the laptop as the internet connection for the PS3, that is what I was wanting to do. I ran into the problem of shared internet connection relies on having 192.168.0.1 as the address and the laptop has .0.4. I dont know if what I wanted to do was possible but I thought it might be. Wade On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 01:28 +0000, Garry Knight wrote: > Wade Smart wrote: > > > My friend has a new PS3 (amazing I know) and we wanted to play it > > online. Right now I only have this computer which is wired into my cable > > modem and my laptop which is wireless. > > And your wireless laptop connects to what? > > > What I wanted to do is, I want to plug the PS3 into my laptop and allow > > internet connection sharing to work (my wifes ThinkPad with WindozXP) > > and then my old PS2 direct into the cable modem. > > And the ThinkPad connects to what? > > > Its the wireless part that Im having trouble with. > > It's visualizing the whole setup that I'm having trouble with. Could you > draw a diagram? > > It seems to me that as long as you get the two or more wireless bits talking > to each other (and Ad-Hoc mode with fixed IPs might be your best route) > then all you need is to make sure that each machine on the LAN knows its > default gateway. Oh, and the gateway machine needs to be set up for NAT > (Network Address Translation), which you do by installing certain firewall > rules - on Linux at least; if the WinXP machine is the gateway, then I > assume you've already set it up for ICS. > > -- > Garry Knight > garryknight at gmx.net > > > From psalmos at swissinfo.org Thu Dec 7 02:36:49 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:36:49 +1000 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> John Dangler wrote: > That guy talks straight through his ass... I think he does. Unfortunately, the links below are in Russian but they give I think more insight into what this man is on about - according to Czarkoff, Linux (should we read Linus?) committed a mortal sin by departing from UNIX way. The UNIX way according to Czarkoff of course. BTW, Linux users are described as a bunch of fanatics, apparently unable to see anything beyond their chosen distro. http://www.citkit.ru/articles/178/ http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/open_source/linux_mobile/ Nikolai From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Dec 7 02:43:49 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:43:49 -0600 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> Message-ID: <45777FE5.9010004@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nikolai wrote: > http://www.citkit.ru/articles/178/ > http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/open_source/linux_mobile/ OK, now that most of the group has taken him up on his argument, and visited the site....has anyone checked for rootkits? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFd3/l6PLtRzZbdhYRAjCOAJ9VmQiy/YPDZsHWr7w3Sb2IjJpHrwCeKnG0 tIfovu5RYGqjqKI6rFIXIKw= =y1kb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From todbot88 at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 03:01:13 2006 From: todbot88 at gmail.com (Tod Merley) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:01:13 -0800 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC In-Reply-To: <1165456551.5322.87.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> <1165456551.5322.87.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <8b5e63cf0612061901j27bf62d9u650b0948bf9010ed@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1953 GMT-6 > > Sorry about that. I'll describe this out. > My computer is hooked directly to the cable modem and the laptop is > wireless to the same cable modem. > > If I hook the PS2 directly to the modem in place of my computer and then > use the laptop as the internet connection for the PS3, that is what I > was wanting to do. > > I ran into the problem of shared internet connection relies on having > 192.168.0.1 as the address and the laptop has .0.4. I dont know if what > I wanted to do was possible but I thought it might be. > > Wade > > On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 01:28 +0000, Garry Knight wrote: > > Wade Smart wrote: > > > > > My friend has a new PS3 (amazing I know) and we wanted to play it > > > online. Right now I only have this computer which is wired into my cable > > > modem and my laptop which is wireless. > > > > And your wireless laptop connects to what? > > > > > What I wanted to do is, I want to plug the PS3 into my laptop and allow > > > internet connection sharing to work (my wifes ThinkPad with WindozXP) > > > and then my old PS2 direct into the cable modem. > > > > And the ThinkPad connects to what? > > > > > Its the wireless part that Im having trouble with. > > > > It's visualizing the whole setup that I'm having trouble with. Could you > > draw a diagram? > > > > It seems to me that as long as you get the two or more wireless bits talking > > to each other (and Ad-Hoc mode with fixed IPs might be your best route) > > then all you need is to make sure that each machine on the LAN knows its > > default gateway. Oh, and the gateway machine needs to be set up for NAT > > (Network Address Translation), which you do by installing certain firewall > > rules - on Linux at least; if the WinXP machine is the gateway, then I > > assume you've already set it up for ICS. > > > > -- > > Garry Knight > > garryknight at gmx.net > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > Hi Wade Smart! Little time now - regrets. Google "iptables network address translation" Basically you can enable the path to your ethernet port on the laptop and leave the wireless connection as it is. I did this on a Dell 8100 with fabulous results. Also Google "linux dhcp server". Good Hunting! Tod From alex at ourwoods.org Thu Dec 7 03:34:55 2006 From: alex at ourwoods.org (Alex Janssen) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:34:55 -0500 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <45778BDF.2000001@ourwoods.org> Wade Smart said the following on 12/06/2006 12:33 PM: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16636 > > I just read this story about how linux is on its last two feet. Some > good points but Im never switching back to MS even if linux totally > falls apart. > > Wade > > > Special contributor Dmitrij D. Czarkoff says "But if we take a closer look, we'll find that this model leads Linux to ruin." Remember, this IS his opinion and he's entitled to it, although that is one hell of an UNFOUNDED statement he makes at the end. I don't think he could back it up. I think he's a M$ plant. He did a pretty good job of riling a few of us, though. mho. Alex -- Ourwoods.org Charlottesville, Virginia Ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 1100 From psalmos at swissinfo.org Thu Dec 7 03:41:38 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:41:38 +1000 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <45777FE5.9010004@fahrlander.net> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> <45777FE5.9010004@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45778D72.5050907@swissinfo.org> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nikolai wrote: > >> http://www.citkit.ru/articles/178/ >> http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/open_source/linux_mobile/ > > OK, now that most of the group has taken him up on his argument, and > visited the site....has anyone checked for rootkits? Don't you see what's in the URL? kit.ru :-) Nikolai From custom at freenet.de Thu Dec 7 04:10:05 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:10:05 +0700 Subject: gnome-network-manager (applet): Nuisance? [question & rant] Message-ID: <1165464605.5054.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Is this applet really more nuisance than it's worth? Whenever it sees a wireless network (ANY network) that's open, it immediately connects to it, trashing any configured DNS information for my eth0 wired LAN connection in the process. Is that silly or what? Not to mention a security risk, if anyone puts a wireless access point within 300 meters of my laptop, network-manager will immediately connect to it, and all my traffic will go through this unknown access point? And more generally, while I'm ranting anyway, WHY is DNS a global thingy anyway across all networks? Surely DNS settings are relative to the connection used, so if I'm using eth0 LAN at the office then I have a DNS server there, and then I'm at home on WiFi ADSL then I have a different DNS there. I can disable 'Wireless' in gnome-network-manager applet, but does it then give me back my DNS server settings? Noooooooooooo it DOESN'T. Actually it doesn't even remember that it's disabled, next time I restart my laptop it starts up again and steals my network to give it to some oddball "linksys" access point that doesn't even work, and I don't know who runs that thing anyway. Cheers, Chanchao From amichai at iglu.org.il Thu Dec 7 06:33:31 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:33:31 +0200 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? Message-ID: Hi All, I am at work, connected to my box remotely via SSH and I would like to find out as much as possible about my memory chip: Brand, speed etc. I would like to shop for an identical chip online - all I know is a DDR400 512MB chip.... My MoBo supports FSB 800MHz, so I might replace them both... Any ideas / pointers? Thanks! -- :====================================================:. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 08:51:58 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:51:58 -0100 Subject: Panda3d in Ubuntu Message-ID: Discussion of the legal stuff on the panda wed site from other projects. http://www.panda3d.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=372 I am not a lawyer in any way but it looks like the bugs are being worked out. I would love any help from people here, talking with people there, to get this worked out. It looks like they are willing. I would do it but am totally clueless in this area of Ubuntu, Panda3d and GPL etc. Can you imagine Fawn with a hot 3D Xorg, python and panda3D all working together!! In 20 lines of code you could make your program interface a 3d cube or all your running programs could look like a heard of sheep walking around a field on the desktop. Click one and it's mouth opens and zooms in to reveal your working window. :-) Or how about animated 3D icons. The power here IS incredible if we could just get the lawyers to let us use it! I am sure someone else has better ideas of how to use this power than me. LOL My personal next step is to get Panda3D working on my new computer. Then look farther into adding Panda3D to an Ubuntu repository. Douglas From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Thu Dec 7 09:28:52 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:28:52 +0000 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (07/12/06 08:33), Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi All, > > I am at work, connected to my box remotely via SSH and I would like to find > out as much as possible about my memory chip: > > Brand, speed etc. > > I would like to shop for an identical chip online - all I know is a DDR400 > 512MB chip.... > > My MoBo supports FSB 800MHz, so I might replace them both... > > Any ideas / pointers? Install lshw - I'm not sure in which repository it resides. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Dec 7 09:59:27 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:59:27 -0500 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <45778D72.5050907@swissinfo.org> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> <45777FE5.9010004@fahrlander.net> <45778D72.5050907@swissinfo.org> Message-ID: <1165485567.5334.2.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 13:41 +1000, Nikolai wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Nikolai wrote: > > > >> http://www.citkit.ru/articles/178/ > >> http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/open_source/linux_mobile/ > > > > OK, now that most of the group has taken him up on his argument, and > > visited the site....has anyone checked for rootkits? > > > Don't you see what's in the URL? kit.ru :-) now that the alarm has been raised about this... so I setup chkrootkit, and found this... Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... /usr/lib/jvm/.java-gcj.jinfo /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/VMware/VmPerl/.exists /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/VMware/VmdbPerl/.exists /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/VMware/HConfig/.exists /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/XML/DOM/.packlist /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/XML/Parser/.packlist /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/.packlist /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/URI/.packlist /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/Authen/PAM/.packlist /usr/lib/vmware/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/VMware/.exists /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile/.mounted Anyone with good knowledge of the output of chkrootkit know whether this indicates anything I should be wary of? I do have vmware server installed on this machine, so at first glance, it didn't make me suspicious... Thanks for the input. From daniel.goldsmith at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 10:20:36 2006 From: daniel.goldsmith at gmail.com (Daniel Goldsmith) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:20:36 +0000 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: On 12/6/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1132 GMT-6 +----------+ | PLEASE | | DO NOT | | FEED THE | | TROLLS | +----------+ | | | | .\|.||/.. Not you Wade - but the article you linked to is a troll, and trolls shouldn't be fed, *anywhere* Regards, Daniel From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Dec 7 10:40:39 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:40:39 -0300 Subject: Cannot remove flash memory In-Reply-To: <880dece00612061740s6988c5a1qd85d8992b73e22a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00611282124r782243f1t9f24b4ad7b8376f4@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00612061740s6988c5a1qd85d8992b73e22a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612070740.39389.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 22:40, my mailbox was graced by a missive from "Dotan Cohen" who wrote: > umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy > Error: umount failed > eject: unmount of `/media/usbdisk' failed > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > > The light stay lit, solid. This is the access light, not the "I'm > connected" light, which this model (Sandisk Cruzer Micro 2GB) does not > have. Note that I even removed the U3 garbage from it, no improvment. Try lsof /media/usbdisk' to see what program is accessing it ? Cheers, Ron. -- What really flatters a man is that you think him worth flattering. -- George Bernard Shaw -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From waqasnasirtoor at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 11:16:14 2006 From: waqasnasirtoor at gmail.com (Waqas Toor) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:16:14 +0500 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? In-Reply-To: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> Message-ID: <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/7/06, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (07/12/06 08:33), Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am at work, connected to my box remotely via SSH and I would like to find > > out as much as possible about my memory chip: > > > > Brand, speed etc. > > > > I would like to shop for an identical chip online - all I know is a DDR400 > > 512MB chip.... > > > > My MoBo supports FSB 800MHz, so I might replace them both... > > > > Any ideas / pointers? > > Install lshw - I'm not sure in which repository it resides. > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/lshw -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team waqas at ubuntu-pk.org http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 13:12:12 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:12:12 +0800 Subject: Counterstrike with wine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/7/06, Ralph Thaller wrote: > Hi! > when i want to run counterstriek with wine it always freezes when i want to > join or start a server, shortly befor the team choose. > the output looks like this: > ralph at nb-thal-ral > :~/.wine/drive_c/valve/condtion zero$ wine czero.exe > fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_GetAvailableTextureMem > (0x1b5b00) : stub, simulating 64MB for > now, returning 64MB left > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) > > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000013) > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) > fixme:d3d:IWineD3DStateBlockImpl_Release Releasing > primary stateblock > > err:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode > Resolution change not successful -- > perhaps display has changed? > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > (0x1fae88)->(1 00000002 0x6c9ff0) > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x1fae88) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) > err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device > for direct access (Input/output error) > > err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Please run winecfg, open > "Audio" page and set > "Hardware Acceleration" to "Emulation". > err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag > not set > This sound card's driver does not support direct access > > The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > (0x63790b8)->(1 00000002 0xefb398) > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x63790b8) > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > (0x6379740)->(1 00000002 0xf605f0) > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x6379740) > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate > (0x63790b8) > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x63790b8) > fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x63790b8)->(1) > > err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag > not set > This sound card's driver does not support direct access > The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. > err:ole:CoGetClassObject class > {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} not registered > > err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object > {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} > could be created for context 0x1 > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_QueryStatus > (0x1faf24)->((null) 1 0x33f120 (nil)) > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > 25 2 0x33f134 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > 26 2 0x33f134 (nil)) > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-709 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > 0x33f088) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) > 0x33f048) > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > 0x33f088) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) > 0x33f048) > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > 0x33f088) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5513 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > 0x33f088) > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-726 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > 0x33f088) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer > (0x1faf24)->(0x33f160) > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec > (0x1faf24)->({000214d1-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} > 37 0 0x33f284 (nil)) > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f274 (nil) > 0x33f158) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f264 (nil) > 0x33f158) > fixme:shdocvw:HttpNegotiate_BeginningTransaction > (0x63130b8)->(L"" L"" 0 0x33f298) > > fixme:shdocvw:BindStatusCallback_GetBindInfo > (0x63130b8)->(0x33f29c 0x33f1c0) > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate > (0x6379740) > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x6379740) > fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x6379740)->(1) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > 29 2 0x33f430 (nil)) > fixme:shdocvw:DocHostUIHandler_GetDropTarget (0x1faf24) > fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer > (0x1faf24)->(0x33f31c) > fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceFrame_SetStatusText > (0x1faf24)->(0xb7e285a9) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > 25 2 0x33f258 (nil)) > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > 26 2 0x33f258 (nil)) > fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollWidth > (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e58) > > fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollHeight > (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e5c) > > anyone an idea? > > mfg Ralph > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_Draw (0x1fae88)->(1 -1 (nil) > (nil) 0x8a4 0x970 0x33f898 (nil) (nil) > 00000000) > Those are currently _normal_ wine output, even for perfectly supported applications. For better gaming experience under Linux, use Cedega (http://www.transgaming.com). > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Carpe Diem From davidm at imcu.com Thu Dec 7 13:20:54 2006 From: davidm at imcu.com (David McSpadden) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:20:54 -0500 Subject: Install from a network share??? Message-ID: <009201c71a02$86dc74c0$5132000a@imcu.local> Could I boot to a Windows Network share and then install Ubuntu across a network? The Cd Rom I have on my Acer Travelmate is like a 4x and the install keeps dieing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hrapof at common-lisp.ru Thu Dec 7 13:26:09 2006 From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Not quite awake after suspend Message-ID: Hello! I run Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft on PPC Imac. Suspend works fine, but sometimes after resume it's not possible to start programs from GNOME menus or panel or from terminal. They start starting and then dissapear. If I'm lucky enough to have terminal or Process Manager running at that moment, I can see started programs in process list, waiting for something. Sometimes they get what they want and show up, but more often then not I have to press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. With fresh X session everything is good again. Is it expected behaviour and what may be the reason? Thank you very much, Dmitri From brian.mckee at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 13:59:49 2006 From: brian.mckee at gmail.com (Brian McKee) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:59:49 -0500 Subject: Install from a network share??? In-Reply-To: <009201c71a02$86dc74c0$5132000a@imcu.local> References: <009201c71a02$86dc74c0$5132000a@imcu.local> Message-ID: You can do a network install of Ubuntu, but you usually still need a boot cd. It's just a lot smaller and simpler (and better for that 4x drive :-) Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD or even https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot if you don't mind mucking about a bunch just to avoid using the cdrom altogether.... HTH Brian On 07/12/06, David McSpadden wrote: > > > Could I boot to a Windows Network share and then install Ubuntu across a > network? The Cd Rom I have on my Acer Travelmate is like a 4x and the > install keeps dieing. > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From stude.list at googlemail.com Thu Dec 7 14:36:29 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:36:29 +0000 Subject: Panda3d in Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0612070636h15b4dbcer5db98c30e838a904@mail.gmail.com> On 07/12/06, Knapp wrote: > Discussion of the legal stuff on the panda wed site from other projects. > http://www.panda3d.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=372 Someone there claims it is 'free as in speech', fails to back it up with anything. I found this on the debian-legal list: (The DFSG is just Debian's view on what free means, but it was used as the basis of the Open Source Definition) >From a piratical point of view it may pose one huge problem, the export restrictions part. As far as I was aware Ubuntu do not filter or restrict access to the packaging system based on country, would Ubuntu be breaching the license agreement if someone from one of the listed countries downloaded it, or would the person who downloaded it just be in violation of the license. As the license prohibits redistribution in that clause I would personally count it as non-free. Discriminating based on where one lives, that's low, what next Disney? As always IANAL (I am not a lawyer). > I am not a lawyer in any way but it looks like the bugs are being > worked out. I would love any help from people here, talking with > people there, to get this worked out. It's very simple, from the Debian list I think it can be fixed by doing the following: - Remove the section about sending changes back (fails desert island test!) - Remove the section prohibiting distribution based on country - Remove the section about being under the jurisdiction of California (this was discussed on the Debian legal list in March, still nothing has been done about it.) _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From ralph.thaller at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 16:57:17 2006 From: ralph.thaller at gmail.com (Ralph Thaller) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 17:57:17 +0100 Subject: Counterstrike with wine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: und why my counterstrike freezes? 2006/12/7, Joel Bryan Juliano : > > On 12/7/06, Ralph Thaller wrote: > > Hi! > > when i want to run counterstriek with wine it always freezes when i want > to > > join or start a server, shortly befor the team choose. > > the output looks like this: > > ralph at nb-thal-ral > > :~/.wine/drive_c/valve/condtion zero$ wine czero.exe > > fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_GetAvailableTextureMem > > (0x1b5b00) : stub, simulating 64MB for > > now, returning 64MB left > > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) > > > > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000013) > > fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel > > (0x1b38b0)->((nil),00000008) > > fixme:d3d:IWineD3DStateBlockImpl_Release Releasing > > primary stateblock > > > > err:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode > > Resolution change not successful -- > > perhaps display has changed? > > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > > (0x1fae88)->(1 00000002 0x6c9ff0) > > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x1fae88) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > > (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > > (0x1fae88)->(ffffffff) > > err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device > > for direct access (Input/output error) > > > > err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Please run winecfg, open > > "Audio" page and set > > "Hardware Acceleration" to "Emulation". > > err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag > > not set > > This sound card's driver does not support direct access > > > > The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. > > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > > (0x63790b8)->(1 00000002 0xefb398) > > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x63790b8) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > > (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > > (0x63790b8)->(ffffffff) > > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_SetAdvise > > (0x6379740)->(1 00000002 0xf605f0) > > fixme:shdocvw:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x6379740) > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsBrowser > > (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget > > (0x6379740)->(ffffffff) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate > > (0x63790b8) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x63790b8) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x63790b8)->(1) > > > > err:dscapture:widDsCreate DirectSoundCapture flag > > not set > > This sound card's driver does not support direct access > > The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead. > > err:ole:CoGetClassObject class > > {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} not registered > > > > err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object > > {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} > > could be created for context 0x1 > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_QueryStatus > > (0x1faf24)->((null) 1 0x33f120 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > > 25 2 0x33f134 (nil)) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > > 26 2 0x33f134 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-709 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > > 0x33f088) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) > > 0x33f048) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > > 0x33f088) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5512 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f038 0x33f084 (nil) > > 0x33f048) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > > 0x33f088) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5513 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > > 0x33f088) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-726 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f078 0x33f0c4 (nil) > > 0x33f088) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer > > (0x1faf24)->(0x33f160) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec > > (0x1faf24)->({000214d1-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} > > 37 0 0x33f284 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5502 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f274 (nil) > > 0x33f158) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClDispatch_Invoke (0x1faf24)->(-5501 > > {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} > > 2048 0002 0x33f148 0x33f264 (nil) > > 0x33f158) > > fixme:shdocvw:HttpNegotiate_BeginningTransaction > > (0x63130b8)->(L"" L"" 0 0x33f298) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:BindStatusCallback_GetBindInfo > > (0x63130b8)->(0x33f29c 0x33f1c0) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate > > (0x6379740) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_UIDeactivate (0x6379740) > > fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x6379740)->(1) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > > 29 2 0x33f430 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:DocHostUIHandler_GetDropTarget (0x1faf24) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer > > (0x1faf24)->(0x33f31c) > > fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceFrame_SetStatusText > > (0x1faf24)->(0xb7e285a9) > > > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > > 25 2 0x33f258 (nil)) > > fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1faf24)->((null) > > 26 2 0x33f258 (nil)) > > fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollWidth > > (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e58) > > > > fixme:mshtml:HTMLTextContainer_get_scrollHeight > > (0x8d1ea34)->(0x6c9e5c) > > > > anyone an idea? > > > > mfg Ralph > > fixme:shdocvw:ViewObject_Draw (0x1fae88)->(1 -1 (nil) > > (nil) 0x8a4 0x970 0x33f898 (nil) (nil) > > 00000000) > > > > Those are currently _normal_ wine output, even for perfectly > supported applications. For better gaming experience under Linux, use > Cedega (http://www.transgaming.com). > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > Carpe Diem > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 7 17:03:47 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:03:47 +0000 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs Message-ID: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I alter on these ubuntu machines? Many thanks Gabe From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Thu Dec 7 17:14:04 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:14:04 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? Message-ID: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Hi, updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? TIA... -- Vince From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu Dec 7 17:20:34 2006 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:20:34 -0500 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs In-Reply-To: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> References: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <200612071220.34517.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 07 December 2006 12:03, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. > When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the > computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and > its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I > alter on these ubuntu machines? > I'm not sure, but this bug may relate: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/8980 Scott K From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 17:28:26 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 17:28:26 +0000 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs In-Reply-To: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> References: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: On 12/7/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. > When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the > computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and > its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I > alter on these ubuntu machines? I'm at work at the moment and can't check the actual filenames, but if you go into /etc then type dhcp (I think it's /etc/dhcp, but don't hold me to that), there's a conf file in there. One of the options is "send name to server" or something very similar to that. Sorry to be so vague, but uncommenting that line and putting in a name to send, solved that problem for me. You'll have to restart the network: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 (substitute eth0 for whatever your network interface is) Could I be any more vague? :-) But hopefully that gives you the clue that you need. -Eamonn From francis at flourish.org Thu Dec 7 08:03:43 2006 From: francis at flourish.org (Francis Irving) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:03:43 +0000 Subject: python: Cannot install Python 2.3 Message-ID: <20061207080343.7103.99427.reportbug@owl> Package: python Version: 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 Severity: important After upgrading to Edgy from Dapper, I can no longer install python2.3 # apt-get install python2.3 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package python2.3 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: python E: Package python2.3 has no installation candidate Francis -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers edgy-updates APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-386 Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages python depends on: ii python-minimal 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 A minimal subset of the Python lan ii python2.4 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 An interactive high-level object-o python recommends no packages. -- no debconf information From T.Six at gmx.de Thu Dec 7 17:31:28 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:31:28 +0100 Subject: evince update - post-installation script returned error... Message-ID: Hello I have question about the following message i get with my update now: <-------------------------------------------------------- Setting up evince (0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2) ... dpkg: error processing evince (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 Errors were encountered while processing: evince E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: Setting up evince (0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2) ... dpkg: error processing evince (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 Errors were encountered while processing: evince --------------------------------------------------------> This is on a machine that is only used once or twice a week and therefore the update were direct to 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 . On an other machine which is daily used and update the update of evince went smoothly 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 -> 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.1 -> 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Sine the error message above persist, can someone give a hint what to do? bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Thu Dec 7 17:52:38 2006 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:52:38 +0100 Subject: Video quality measurement (PSNR etc. for h.264) Tool required Message-ID: <20061207175238.GB7783@gmx.de> hi, I like to measure video quality between different versions of a video content. Is there any open source utility that gives me the required quality measurement results. I am particularly interested in PSNR but also other approaches would be welcomed. Cheers, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu Dec 7 18:01:32 2006 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:01:32 -0500 Subject: python: Cannot install Python 2.3 In-Reply-To: <20061207080343.7103.99427.reportbug@owl> References: <20061207080343.7103.99427.reportbug@owl> Message-ID: <200612071301.32531.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 07 December 2006 03:03, Francis Irving wrote: > Package: python > Version: 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 > Severity: important > > > After upgrading to Edgy from Dapper, I can no longer install python2.3 > Generally speaking your shouldn't need it. Why do you want Python 2.3? Scott K From jw at raven.inka.de Thu Dec 7 18:17:40 2006 From: jw at raven.inka.de (Josef Wolf) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:17:40 +0100 Subject: installer: preseeding based on hostname Message-ID: <20061207181740.GE316@raven.wolf.local> Hello! I'm trying to build an install-CD with different configurations based on the hostname. I took the example from http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs05.html#preseed-chainload This is what the example suggests: d-i preseed/include_command \ string if [ "`hostname`" = bob ]; then echo bob.cfg; fi But unfortunately, there is a problem here: AFAICS, the include_command is run immediately when the main preseed file is read. At this early stage the hostname is not set. Therefore bob.cfg will never be read. Is this a real bug or am I trying to do something very stupid? Any ideas how I can include different preseed files based on hostname? BTW: The actual example is: d-i preseed/include_command \ string echo if [ "`hostname`" = bob ]; then echo bob.cfg; fi which is obviously wrong (note the echo) From garryknight at gmx.net Thu Dec 7 18:20:05 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:20:05 +0000 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> <1165456551.5322.87.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: Wade Smart wrote: > Sorry about that. I'll describe this out. > My computer is hooked directly to the cable modem and the laptop is > wireless to the same cable modem. So the cable modem has a single Ethernet port and WiFi? > If I hook the PS2 directly to the modem in place of my computer and then > use the laptop as the internet connection for the PS3, that is what I > was wanting to do. Can't help with the PS2 or PS3 as I don't know anything about them. So I don't know what "use the laptop as the internet connection for the PS3" means, but hopefully some other PS3 user will. > I ran into the problem of shared internet connection relies on having > 192.168.0.1 as the address and the laptop has .0.4. I dont know if what > I wanted to do was possible but I thought it might be. This still isn't clear. You haven't said what it is that has the IP 192.168.0.1. Am I right in guessing that the PC has a static IP of 192.168.0.1 on the Ethernet port that connects to the modem? Does it also have another Ethernet port onto which you're going to hang the PS3? If so, then all you have to do is temporarily change the laptop's IP to 192.168.0.1, then change it back when you're done. If the laptop is running Linux, then you simply add the following rules to your firewall: modprobe iptable_nat modprobe ip_nat_ftp iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward In fact, if you just put #!/bin/bash as the first line, save it as a script and make it executable, you get a 4-line firewall that suits most people's purposes. It 'stealths' the machine and allows Internet sharing. (Note that the 'eth0' assumes that whatever plugs into the modem does so via ethernet port eth0.) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 18:32:25 2006 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:32:25 +0100 Subject: Installed (auto removable) Message-ID: <379ea5900612071032o7b0d2f5w3002a8e6177bdf5f@mail.gmail.com> Hi all I have noticed that in Synaptic there are a few packages in the status category "Installed (auto removable)". I suspect these are packages that are no longer needed due to me having removed the package(s) that depended on them. Is this correct? And as Synaptic brags about these packages being "auto removable", how do I auto remove them? I have snooped about all the menues and settings in Synaptic but I guess I must be temporarily blind. Thanks in advance! Greetings, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Dec 7 18:44:44 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:44:44 -0300 Subject: Video quality measurement (PSNR etc. for h.264) Tool required In-Reply-To: <20061207175238.GB7783@gmx.de> References: <20061207175238.GB7783@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200612071544.44886.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Thursday 07 December 2006 14:52, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Luqman who wrote: > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, > and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of > running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but > so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. open /etc/cron.daily in Konqueror, and remove the offending entry. Cheers, Ron. -- If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then you clearly don't understand the situation. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From frederific at googlemail.com Thu Dec 7 18:53:43 2006 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:53:43 +0000 Subject: Installed (auto removable) In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612071032o7b0d2f5w3002a8e6177bdf5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900612071032o7b0d2f5w3002a8e6177bdf5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 07/12/06, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > Hi all > > > I suspect these are packages > that are no longer needed due to me having removed the package(s) that > depended on them. Is this correct? Yes, I believe so > And as Synaptic brags about these packages being "auto removable", how > do I auto remove them? I have snooped about all the menues and > settings in Synaptic but I guess I must be temporarily blind. I'm not sure how to do it from within synaptic, but running "sudo apt-get autoremove" from a terminal will do it HTH Freddie :) -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From tech_dev at wildintellect.com Thu Dec 7 20:59:21 2006 From: tech_dev at wildintellect.com (Alex Mandel) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:59:21 -0800 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> References: <1164351654.7412.7.camel@jonathan.logical.co.zw> <200611240651.27350.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <456CF012.9000707@systemstheory.net> <456CFAF1.5030506@fahrlander.net> <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/4/06, Alex Mandel wrote: >> sdavmor wrote: >>> Brian Fahrlander wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> sdavmor wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm getting my family off Windows onto Ubuntu ASAP before they start >>>>> bugging me about upgrading them to Vista. Just a few Windows app >>>>> issues, but I think come January all that will be left will be my >>>>> kids' games and my music workstation (which will remain until the NET >>>>> 2.0 issues are solved for WINE). >>>> How about VMWare? I'll bet there's no .NET issues, there...WINE >>>> isn't trash, but VMWare's always been better. And now it's free, >>>> too.. >>> I imagine VMWare or QEMU will be the interim solution. Thanks for >>> pointing out VMWare's free option. I didn't know that was so. Learn >>> something new every day... >>> >>> Eventually I'd like any carryover apps to be integrated under WINE >>> rather than a virtual guest. Or better still replaced by an improved >>> native *nix app... ;-) >> FYI free VMWARE Server works. Qemu does not run windows. > > When you say QEMU doesn't run Windows, are you talking about Windows > Vista, right? Cause QEMU runs Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP > seamlessly. > Last I had checked, Qemu's website said no windows at all. Maybe I got it mixed up with something else. Although if Vista is 64bit(?) then I'm pretty sure Qemu has some issues, but I don't think I tried compiling it for 64bit I think I ran it in 32bit chroot. Alex From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 21:34:32 2006 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:34:32 +0100 Subject: Installed (auto removable) In-Reply-To: References: <379ea5900612071032o7b0d2f5w3002a8e6177bdf5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <379ea5900612071334u82e8d82q3b98fac22847b147@mail.gmail.com> On 07/12/06, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > [...] running "sudo apt-get autoremove" from a terminal will do it. Indeed! > HTH It did. Thanks a lot! Regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From ben at cvrse.com Thu Dec 7 21:42:01 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:42:01 +1100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061207214201.GA4972@rip.cvrse.com> * Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Hi, > > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, > and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of > running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but > so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. > > I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea > for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to > "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? im not sure what you mean by "properly" as i would consider changing the permissions -x on /etc/cron.daily/slocate the easiest to implement and reverse should you change your mind later. otherwise you could just comment out the file or change it so the condition is never true + then it wont execute the update, maybe move it to weekly or monthly? -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:16:14 +0500 "Waqas Toor" wrote: > On 12/7/06, Clive Menzies wrote: > > On (07/12/06 08:33), Amichai Rotman wrote: [snip] > > Install lshw - I'm not sure in which repository it resides. > > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/lshw umm.... it's already installed by default in Ubuntu - and why would you install a Debian package anyway ? Using Debian packages is deprecated ( not to mention potentially dangerous) . $ apt-cache rdepends lshw lshw Reverse Depends: ubuntu-standard ubuntu-standard |lshw-common "ubuntu-standard" is one of the metapackages for an Ubuntu install, which will pull in lshw . Peter From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Thu Dec 7 22:03:51 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 23:03:51 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061207214201.GA4972@rip.cvrse.com> References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061207214201.GA4972@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <20061207230351.fc0188d5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> ben darby wrote: > im not sure what you mean by "properly" as i would consider changing the > permissions -x on Hmm, I was thinking "proper" as in "remove the schedule job", just like your remove/uninstall an application and not just remove its icon from the menu ;-) > /etc/cron.daily/slocate the easiest to implement and > reverse should you change your mind later. otherwise you could just comment > out the file or change it so the condition is never true + then it wont > execute the update, maybe move it to weekly or monthly? Ah, looks like you over-estimated my understanding of cron...thanks for the starting point ! I need a beginners guide, an overview of how cron works, what files are involved, how to remove a job, what commands and utility (if any) are used to work with cron, etc, etc. Also, cron is not enough. ISTR that updatedb nowadays on Ubuntu is triggered by anacron, not cron. So, on top of cron, I need to have a working knowledge of anacron as well, and what is the relation between the two... if any. It might be super simple for the one who knows, but until someone sheds some light... it's just a black box to me and therefore I don't know what is the proper way to remove a cron, and anacron, job. I guess I could google for a howto, but since each distro has its little differences, I would rather learn 100% relevant Edgy instructions, rather than screw something up by following some Redhat or Suse, or even an obsolete Ubuntu howto. -- Vince From frederific at googlemail.com Thu Dec 7 23:01:31 2006 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 23:01:31 +0000 Subject: Automatic MP3 converter? Message-ID: Hello, I have a largish music collection, mostly in MP3, but all of the stuff from the past year or so in FLAC (Ripped from CDs). I am about to recieve a portable MP3 player. Is there a way for me to automatically convert the FLACs to MP3s when I transfer them to the player. I intend to manage the player using Rhythmbox, so a plug-in for that would be ideal. It's a drag-and-drop type player, so it is not a problem if I must use another application. Failing that, can anyone recommend a good batch converter? GUI would be ideal, but I'm not afraid of a terminal :) Thanks Freddie :) -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Dec 7 23:14:12 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:14:12 +0100 Subject: Automatic MP3 converter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1165533252.4846.11.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 23:01 +0000, Freddie Ruddick wrote: > Failing that, can anyone recommend a good batch converter? SoundConverter, it's in universe. Or nautilus-script-audio-convert, it gives you an entry in the rightclick menu. To do automatic conversion, I don't know a finished solution, but can think of 2 options: * Write a bash script and start it from menu System/Preferences/Removable Drives and Media/Tab Multimedia/Portable Music Players * Or run soundconverter instead of the script and configure it to output to the mounted player's directory in /media From psalmos at swissinfo.org Thu Dec 7 23:26:11 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:26:11 +1000 Subject: [OT]Re: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <1165485567.5334.2.camel@localhost> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <1165428415.5848.403.camel@localhost> <45777E41.7030302@swissinfo.org> <45777FE5.9010004@fahrlander.net> <45778D72.5050907@swissinfo.org> <1165485567.5334.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4578A313.2000400@swissinfo.org> John Dangler wrote: >>> Nikolai wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.citkit.ru/articles/178/ >>>> http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/open_source/linux_mobile/ >>> OK, now that most of the group has taken him up on his argument, and >>> visited the site....has anyone checked for rootkits? >> >> Don't you see what's in the URL? kit.ru :-) > > now that the alarm has been raised about this... > so I setup chkrootkit, and found this... You're not serious, are you? The URL's I posted I found through searching on this guy's name (among other things) on a Russian search engine. Do you think by posting on osnews.com he would think that someone would find his other articles in Russian somewhere else and have there rootkits waiting? Besides, in the citkit.ru URL I joked about, the kit.ru part refers to 'whale' because that's what 'kit' means in Russian (just look at the logo on that site) and so is 'cit' is a play on the same word. Of course, no one can guarantee that there are no rootkits there. Nikolai From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Thu Dec 7 23:28:11 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:28:11 +0100 Subject: Automatic MP3 converter? In-Reply-To: <1165533252.4846.11.camel@chronic> References: <1165533252.4846.11.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <1165534091.4846.12.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 00:14 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > * Or run soundconverter instead of the script and configure it to > output to the mounted player's directory in /media Note that soundconverter can be run from the command line with the --batch option. See man page From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 7 23:47:30 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:47:30 -0200 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, wim delvaux wrote: > I personally and about (6 Billon - NoOfChristians) are offended by claimin > that the TRUTH will make use free. especially if that TRUTH seems to point to > something made up in 400 AC by some byzantian emperor Another that fell for the Dan Brown gospel I see. But this is historically incorrect, just so you now. And no, Jesus was not the grandfather of a French king (just to type it, I'm ROTFL). Oh, and there is no record of the priory of sion before the 1950s! Never mind, Hervé. From devraj at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 23:49:56 2006 From: devraj at gmail.com (Devraj Mukherjee) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:49:56 +1100 Subject: Creating packages for Ubuntu, help not sure where I am going Message-ID: <2d57c6570612071549y2e9d669bqdeca314a2f05c724@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone, I am trying to create packages (debs) for a product called Rivendell (http://www.salemradiolabs.com/rivendell/) a radio automation system for Ubuntu/Kubntu. The idea is that I want to run an apt source so other people can get this package quickly and easily. So far I have been following the but, I am not sure what I do to actually build the packages https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html Are there any guides that can help me build debian packages from source packages. -- "I never look back darling, it distracts from the now", Edna Mode (The Incredibles) From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 7 23:54:56 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:54:56 -0200 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071554x628a576at6fe4c8cfb965ee2f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, K S Balaji wrote: > It was good to be using Ubuntu for about a month. I lost my Thunderbird > mails as I had to reinstall Ubuntu. Even though I had a copy of the mails > on CD, I could not restore them in the new installation even after going > through various How Tos. Why did you re-install Ubuntu? Why do you say you lost your e-mails if they're on a backup CD? > I had to remove Ubuntu and reinstall XP, buy a licensed software to convert > my thunderbird mails to .eml format and print them. Even though Ubuntu was > free, I still had to pay heavily for it. Did you try wine? A lot of win32 applications run quite well under it! You could also have installed Windows in a VMware session... And why that strange format? AFAIK, Thunderbird uses the (very common) mailbox format. > Ubuntu as well as Linux distros have a long journey to make before they can > compete with Windows which I had to learn the hard way. Now I have to get > my XP activated again...:-( Well, I happen to disagree, having to switch from Kubuntu back to Windows XP at work. I would be more than happy that you actually justify that sentence, just to see what you think Ubuntu lacks, because I for sure can see what Windows lacks compared to Ubuntu! Hervé. From baypos at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 00:01:48 2006 From: baypos at gmail.com (Roger Neth Jr) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:01:48 -0800 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. I Corinthians 1:18 KJV So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17 KJV Please read the testimony of this brother in India. http://www.christ-centered.net/paul.html God Bless you. Roger On 12/7/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > On 10/23/06, wim delvaux wrote: > > I personally and about (6 Billon - NoOfChristians) are offended by > claimin > > that the TRUTH will make use free. especially if that TRUTH seems to > point to > > something made up in 400 AC by some byzantian emperor > > Another that fell for the Dan Brown gospel I see. But this is > historically incorrect, just so you now. And no, Jesus was not the > grandfather of a French king (just to type it, I'm ROTFL). > > Oh, and there is no record of the priory of sion before the 1950s! > > Never mind, > Hervé. > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:02:34 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:02:34 -0200 Subject: windows vista In-Reply-To: References: <1164351654.7412.7.camel@jonathan.logical.co.zw> <200611240651.27350.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <456CF012.9000707@systemstheory.net> <456CFAF1.5030506@fahrlander.net> <456CFD89.6030303@systemstheory.net> <6f6293f10612040528t195c9246jaba069771fa16753@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071602q21e063aeq8286d2e2961ec869@mail.gmail.com> On 12/7/06, Alex Mandel wrote: > Although if Vista is 64bit(?) Vista is available in 64-bit, as well as 32-bit, otherwise only like 10% of current computers could run it. Well, that said, from what I've read so far, only 10% of current computers could run it properly. The rest need an 'upgrade'. "Windows is not the answer; Windows is the question, and the answer is: no." Hervé. From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:11:02 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:11:02 -0200 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs In-Reply-To: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> References: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071611j551daf0do405bf1e86938a5e4@mail.gmail.com> You want to edit the configuration file for the DHCP client and add the host name there. In /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, add the line: send host-name "Your host name here"; This bug is related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/66980 HTH, Hervé. On 12/7/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. > When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the > computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and > its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I > alter on these ubuntu machines? > > Many thanks > Gabe > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:23:27 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:23:27 -0200 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071623q295917du5e8026d6a972cc7d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Neil McLeod wrote: > Hello, > > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) crashes. > I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. So both keyboard and mouse are dead? That's a big bug! > Here is what appears in my /var/log/syslog prior to crash. I constantly get > these messages: > > Dec 5 22:39:02 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[21525]: (root) CMD ( [ -d > /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin > +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm) > > Dec 5 22:39:05 localhost cupsd: Unable to open log file > "/var/log/cups/error_log" - Permission denied > > Dec 5 22:39:40 localhost last message repeated 91 times > > Dec 5 22:40:40 localhost last message repeated 183 times > > Dec 5 22:41:40 localhost last message repeated 156 times > > Dec 5 22:42:41 localhost last message repeated 156 times > > Dec 5 22:43:41 localhost last message repeated 156 times > > [and so on, about 50 times...] > > > Dec 5 23:05:42 localhost last message repeated 156 times > > Dec 5 23:06:42 localhost last message repeated 156 times > > Dec 5 23:12:10 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart. > > > > > > Here are the file permissions in /var/log/cups (though I thought I had > changed the owner of error_log to cupsys at some point to try to fix the > problem): > > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 2.0K 2006-12-05 23:13 access_log > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 180 2006-12-05 02:10 access_log.1.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 183 2006-12-04 03:01 access_log.2.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 249 2006-12-03 03:17 access_log.3.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 192 2006-11-30 04:02 access_log.4.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 189 2006-11-29 20:39 access_log.5.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 117 2006-11-29 12:31 access_log.6.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 222 2006-11-27 19:45 access_log.7.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 1.7M 2006-12-05 23:23 error_log > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 98K 2006-12-05 12:31 error_log.1.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 35K 2006-12-04 03:32 error_log.2.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 80K 2006-12-03 13:05 error_log.3.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 17K 2006-12-02 02:27 error_log.4.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 106K 2006-12-01 00:14 error_log.5.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 73K 2006-11-30 02:03 error_log.6.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root lp 32K 2006-11-29 12:35 error_log.7.gz > -rw-r----- 1 cupsys lpadmin 0 2006-06-11 01:19 page_log > Questions: > > (1) Is it likely that CUPS is causing these crashes? I know I haven't given > very much information; I'd be happy to give any upon request. I'd would not think so, but what then? > (2) How can I fix the CUPS issue? Try the following (the user password will be required the first time): sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop sudo rm -f /var/log/cups/error_log* sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start Hervé. > > Thank you so much. > > -- > Ubuntu Linux 6.06 (Dapper Drake) > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:26:10 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:26:10 -0200 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC In-Reply-To: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071626ub96c5fbsaa683daa956339b9@mail.gmail.com> Try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter And reply to me if you need more info... Good luck, Hervé. On 12/6/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12062006 1500 GMT-6 > > My friend has a new PS3 (amazing I know) and we wanted to play it > online. Right now I only have this computer which is wired into my cable > modem and my laptop which is wireless. > > What I wanted to do is, I want to plug the PS3 into my laptop and allow > internet connection sharing to work (my wifes ThinkPad with WindozXP) > and then my old PS2 direct into the cable modem. > > Its the wireless part that Im having trouble with. > > Is this even possible? > > wade > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:28:17 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:28:17 -0200 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> Have you got a Via chipset? KT400 or KT800? If you don't, just gimme the make and model of your motherboard please... Hervé. On 12/6/06, terrence at terrencevak.net wrote: > I tried reverssing the positions of my 2 ram sticks, but doing > that didn't even get me past my computer's initial splash screen. Is > there possibly something I should do with the boot record itself to get it > back? I'm running my other OS off the CD since it's the only thing that > runs anymore, so am using only command-line programs. > > Thanks, > Terrence > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 00:32:32 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:32:32 -0200 Subject: Getting an hfsplus using ubuntu 6.10? In-Reply-To: <913BB58E-9ED0-41E0-AF28-AD1E3F584C50@stoddard.us> References: <913BB58E-9ED0-41E0-AF28-AD1E3F584C50@stoddard.us> Message-ID: <4413284c0612071632h65934ed2h87e847e1e10b7ddd@mail.gmail.com> Did you try to install the hfsplus package? Hervé. On 12/6/06, Peter Stoddard wrote: > Hi folks > > I'm running Ubuntu desktop 6.10, kernel 2.6.17-10 generic. I have a > spare disk currently with ext3 filesystem. I would like to replace > ext3 with an hfsplus filesystem for use with MacOSX 10.4. > > I have seen a discussion of how to do it with darwin, but not with > ubuntu. Is there a way to put an hfsplus filesystem on a disk using > ubuntu 6.10? > > Pete > -- > Peter Stoddard -- GPG Key 4A1F5DA0 > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net Fri Dec 8 00:45:29 2006 From: ubuntu at liberatedcomputing.net (David Symons) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:45:29 +1100 Subject: Creating packages for Ubuntu, help not sure where I am going In-Reply-To: <2d57c6570612071549y2e9d669bqdeca314a2f05c724@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d57c6570612071549y2e9d669bqdeca314a2f05c724@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f1a4380612071645h4b04e115nf63719e095f6219@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Devraj Mukherjee wrote: > Are there any guides that can help me build debian packages from > source packages. Hi Devraj, The Ubuntu Packaging Guide is available via System -> Help -> System Documentation on a desktop Ubuntu installation or online here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Regarding setting up your own repository, Falcon is definitely worth a look. Ubuntu packages for it are available via: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ (which is itself a Falcon generated repository :-) ) HTH. Cheers, Dave. -- David Symons https://launchpad.net/people/bimberi From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Fri Dec 8 00:50:26 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:50:26 -0600 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> "Roger Neth Jr" said: > Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. > > For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; Would you /PLEASE/ take your preaching somewhere else? It's getting damned irritating. I purposely /miss/ church in order to not listen to that sort of tripe. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 8 01:04:56 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:04:56 +1300 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612081404.56549.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Around Friday 08 December 2006 13:01, Roger Neth Jr wibbled of : > Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. > > For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto > us which are saved it is the power of God. > I Corinthians 1:18 KJV > > So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. > Romans 10:17 KJV > This is a group about "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions". Your religious ranting does not belong here, do yourself a favour and learn where to make this sort of post ie a religious group. -- ~~~ Aaargh no it's mail from some weirdo ~~~ homepages http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion http://obsidion.kwister.com Linux user # 215413 From garyjarrel at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 01:51:00 2006 From: garyjarrel at gmail.com (Gary Jarrel) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:51:00 +1100 Subject: Server Recommendations! Message-ID: <995b0fb00612071751t67483071q43804f70d115ba69@mail.gmail.com> Hi All! I need some advice on configuring a web and a database server - quite powerful both running Ubuntu. The configuration which I've come up with for both servers is as follows: 2 x Xeon 3Ghz Dual Core Processors (4 processors approx :) Dual Xeon Motherboard 4 x 2Ggb DDR2 533 ECC Memory (8Gig) 4 Port 3WARE Sata2 RAID controller That being the core then for the web server: 4 x 320 SATA2 Drives 16Mb Cache (Hardware RAID5 of 3Ware Controller) and the DB server: 2 x 320 SATA2 16Mb Cache Drives (Software Raid of motherboard for OS) 4 x 750 SATA2 16Mb Cache Drives (Hardware RAID5 of 3Ware Controller for Database) All drives are 7200RPM The two machines will be connected via a CAT6e Twisted Pair cable using one of the Gigabit LAN on each board - for web server access to the database. The Web server then connects to the local intranet using the other Gigabit LAN. I need to obtain very good performance out of both machines for quite a large user base. I would prefer to use Ubuntu 64bit (board, processor, 3ware raid are all 64 bit) as Ubuntu is indeed very stable and I already have a number of servers running on it (but not this powerful) For the web server it will probably run Tomcat (will most probably leave Apache 2 out with Tomcat direct on port 80 as this seems to work quite well in my previous experience) the database server at this stage will be MySQL5 but this has not been finalised. The main concern is with the 2 x Dual Core processors - Will ubuntu be able to address both processors and both cores on each concurrently and will it improve the performance of the system. Will MySQL be able to address the four processors and 8Gb of RAM. Will better performance be achieved using 16Gb? There are a few other options which are available and they include: 1. Xeon 3.2Ghz Processors (also dual core)? 2. 667Mhz Memory (2Gb Modules) instead of 533? expensive toys 3. Westan Digital makes 10000RPM SATA2 Drives in 74Gb and 150Gb (all have 8Mb cache except for one model in the 150Gb range which has 16Mb cache) - also expensive toys. Would there perhaps be a benefit of running the OS on either the Web Server or DB Server (or both) using the faster drives? Can't run the database of these drives as I will run out of storage too quick. Sorry for the long email, but some advice would be much appreciated from anyone involved in server configs, set ups or any other information!!! Thank you Gary From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 02:11:24 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:11:24 +0700 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs In-Reply-To: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> References: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1165543884.26382.1.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 17:03 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. > When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the > computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and > its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I > alter on these ubuntu machines? I think I'd kind of like it that way.. The less I'm in any logs, the better I like it. :) Cheers, Chanchao From baypos at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 02:52:01 2006 From: baypos at gmail.com (Roger Neth Jr) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:52:01 -0800 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <200612081404.56549.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <200612081404.56549.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> Hello Rebel Lion, I like to discuss Ubuntu and was replying to Herve response. I had a huge upgrade of Edgy this morning. I have rebooted yet to see how it effects the system. I was wondering if rebooting would be necessary for the Xorg upgrades to take effect? Thanks and Have a Merry Christmas! Roger On 12/7/06, Rebel Lion wrote: > > Around Friday 08 December 2006 13:01, Roger Neth Jr wibbled of : > > Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. > > > > For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but > unto > > us which are saved it is the power of God. > > I Corinthians 1:18 KJV > > > > So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. > > Romans 10:17 KJV > > > > This is a group about "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general > discussions". Your religious ranting does not belong here, do yourself a > favour and learn where to make this sort of post ie a religious group. > > > > -- > ~~~ Aaargh no it's mail from some weirdo ~~~ > homepages http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion > http://obsidion.kwister.com > Linux user # 215413 > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baypos at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 02:52:10 2006 From: baypos at gmail.com (Roger Neth Jr) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:52:10 -0800 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <731b056b0612071852y189fcd90wf8f8e90aea11f0d2@mail.gmail.com> Hello Cybe, how are you? I was just replying to Herve on his response. Take Care and Have a Merry Christmas! Roger On 12/7/06, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > "Roger Neth Jr" said: > > Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. > > > > For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; > > Would you /PLEASE/ take your preaching somewhere else? It's getting > damned irritating. I purposely /miss/ church in order to not listen to > that sort of tripe. > > Cybe R. Wizard > -- > When Windows are opened the bugs come in. > Winduhs > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike_po at streamyx.com Fri Dec 8 02:57:09 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:57:09 +0800 Subject: Cisco Aironet ABG wifi pccard Message-ID: <4578D485.3010005@streamyx.com> My friend gave me a Cisco Aironet ABG wifi pccard. But lost the driver cd. I cant seem to download the driver from Cisco's website. Need some kind of username and password. I understand I just need the xxx.inf and xxx.sys for ndiswrapper. Can somebody email me these 2 files? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- The contents of this e-mail are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing or copying of this Message or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. In such a case, you should delete this Message immediately and advise the sender by return e-mail. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this Message that do not relate to the official business of Sarku shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by Sarku. From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 03:31:06 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:31:06 +0700 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <200612081404.56549.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165548666.26382.29.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 18:52 -0800, Roger Neth Jr wrote: > I had a huge upgrade of Edgy this morning. I have rebooted yet to see > how it effects the system. I was wondering if rebooting would be > necessary for the Xorg upgrades to take effect? My understanding that a reboot is only need when the kernel is updated. If xorg is updated then I think just logging out and logging back in again will restart xorg. If shit happens, and xorg updates have proven to be iffy in the past, then you will find your self having to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" .... Personally when I see a xorg update I don't take it anymore. I would perhaps do that update later after seeing if it caused problems for people. Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 03:36:35 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:36:35 +0700 Subject: Shredder ?! Message-ID: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Having a 'shredder' icon to represent a regular move-to-trash or even filesystem delete is seriously bad. It's a lie, it implies things are shredded securely, but they aren't they're merely moved to the trash. This default icon has GOT to change in an URGENT SECURITY UPDATE! With most security breaches involving human errors or misunderstandings, this is an unacceptable security risk that exists in Ubuntu Edgy. Secondly, is there an 'actual' secure shredding program/applet available for Ubuntu? Something like 'Eraser' on Windows that will do multiple over-writes with random data? Cheers, Chanchao From ljpino at grm.net Fri Dec 8 03:50:33 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:50:33 -0600 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > "Roger Neth Jr" said: > >> Hello Herve, thank you for the response and my reply by verse. >> >> For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; >> > > Would you /PLEASE/ take your preaching somewhere else? It's getting > damned irritating. I purposely /miss/ church in order to not listen to > that sort of tripe. > > Cybe R. Wizard > Then maybe you could start using filters? ;) ~Lorin From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Fri Dec 8 04:00:59 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:00:59 -0600 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0612071852y189fcd90wf8f8e90aea11f0d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> <731b056b0612071852y189fcd90wf8f8e90aea11f0d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061207220059.6104baa7@WizardsTower> "Roger Neth Jr" said: > Hello Cybe, how are you? > > I was just replying to Herve on his response. > > Take Care and Have a Merry Christmas! > > Roger Roger, it's already been pointed out to you that this is decidedly off-topic for this list. Can you not take it somewhere else where it isn't so off-topic such as the sounder list for Ubuntu? After all, since I first asked you to move the discussion it has generated a /lot/ of traffic on sounder. Someone (you?) asked why Christians are so despised world-wide. I submit to you that is just the behavior you have exhibited here; an inability to listen to/abide by rules when they get in the way of Christian proselytizing and a (n also erroneous) belief that by false kindness and misdirection the above-mentioned inability will be overlooked. Most of the people of the world find your tactics, not to mention your religious motivations to be devious at best and certainly condescending. As you have previously seen I am more than willing to discuss Ubuntu with you; I hold no personal animosity toward you but your pushing of your religious here is unacceptable and not only to me. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs From mspruell at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 04:06:49 2006 From: mspruell at gmail.com (M. Spruell) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:06:49 -0600 Subject: Shredder ?! In-Reply-To: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <4578E4D9.2030900@ubuntu.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chanchao wrote: > Having a 'shredder' icon to represent a regular move-to-trash or even > filesystem delete is seriously bad. It's a lie, it implies things are > shredded securely, but they aren't they're merely moved to the trash. > > This default icon has GOT to change in an URGENT SECURITY UPDATE! With > most security breaches involving human errors or misunderstandings, this > is an unacceptable security risk that exists in Ubuntu Edgy. > > Secondly, is there an 'actual' secure shredding program/applet available > for Ubuntu? Something like 'Eraser' on Windows that will do multiple > over-writes with random data? Yes, in your console, type "man shred". BE CAREFUL USING THIS. I'm sure there are graphical frontends to this, but i'm unaware of any names. > > Cheers, > Chanchao > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFeOTZyz6+0fDuDXwRAt9ZAJ99b5i/ybAitAgxVNifXLGtrp4CTACfdglx iyxfsSW6bt7kitAhLTs3Nyc= =DFEN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 8 04:21:34 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:21:34 +1300 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <1165548666.26382.29.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> <1165548666.26382.29.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <200612081721.34662.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Around Friday 08 December 2006 16:31, Chanchao wibbled of : > On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 18:52 -0800, Roger Neth Jr wrote: > > I had a huge upgrade of Edgy this morning. I have rebooted yet to see > > how it effects the system. I was wondering if rebooting would be > > necessary for the Xorg upgrades to take effect? > > My understanding that a reboot is only need when the kernel is updated. > If xorg is updated then I think just logging out and logging back in > again will restart xorg. This is pretty much true, though I tend to do a control-alt-backspace as well once I am back at the display manager login just to make sure. > > If shit happens, and xorg updates have proven to be iffy in the past, > then you will find your self having to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure > xserver-xorg" .... > > Personally when I see a xorg update I don't take it anymore. I would > perhaps do that update later after seeing if it caused problems for > people. They can be a pain but generally things seem to be settling down in edgy so hopefully it will work for you. I'm still hanging on to dapper for the moment though :) -- ~~~ Aaargh no it's mail from some weirdo ~~~ homepages http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion http://obsidion.kwister.com Linux user # 215413 From kc9aae at bresnan.net Fri Dec 8 04:26:47 2006 From: kc9aae at bresnan.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:26:47 -0700 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <200612081404.56549.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> <731b056b0612071852h197ef1d0hbde1ae5042ea8778@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4578E987.9010104@bresnan.net> Roger Neth Jr wrote: > Hello Rebel Lion, > > I like to discuss Ubuntu and was replying to Herve response. > > I had a huge upgrade of Edgy this morning. I have rebooted yet to see > how it effects the system. I was wondering if rebooting would be > necessary for the Xorg upgrades to take effect? Reboot. No problems here at all. Dana -- BOFH excuse #221: The mainframe needs to rest. It's getting old, you know. From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Fri Dec 8 04:28:02 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:28:02 -0600 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> Message-ID: <20061207222802.54000dcf@WizardsTower> Lorin Pino said: [...] > > > Then maybe you could start using filters? ;) > ~Lorin > Every few posts Roger actually discusses Ubuntu. I'd hate to filter him and thereby lose a resource or fail to help if possible. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 05:00:28 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:00:28 +0700 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> Message-ID: <1165554028.26382.37.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 21:50 -0600, Lorin Pino wrote: > I purposely /miss/ church in order to not listen to > that sort of tripe. > Then maybe you could start using filters? ;) I can filter out churches? ;) Cheers, Chanchao From haniganwork at earthlik.net Fri Dec 8 05:02:59 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:02:59 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612071623q295917du5e8026d6a972cc7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071623q295917du5e8026d6a972cc7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165554179.1980.2.camel@star> The Screensaver was locking up my system. After I removed all screensavers it has not locked up again. It is not a big deal since the screen goes blank if not used for a while. You might want to try it to see if it solves your problem. Linda On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 22:23 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > On 12/6/06, Neil McLeod wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) crashes. > > I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing > > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. > > So both keyboard and mouse are dead? That's a big bug! > From smccuan at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 05:20:52 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:20:52 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu crashes every few days In-Reply-To: <1165554179.1980.2.camel@star> References: <2c4b23d60612052027s65582ef8m4f1acd945c10a8c9@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612071623q295917du5e8026d6a972cc7d@mail.gmail.com> <1165554179.1980.2.camel@star> Message-ID: I have the same screensaver issue. I just disabled the screensaver from coming on. - - - Although it is linux, it should just work :) On 12/8/06, Linda Hanigan wrote: > > The Screensaver was locking up my system. After I removed all > screensavers it has not locked up again. It is not a big deal since the > screen goes blank if not used for a while. You might want to try it to > see if it solves your problem. > Linda > On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 22:23 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > > On 12/6/06, Neil McLeod wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on a Thinkpad T42) > crashes. > > > I can't even move the mouse or suspend the computer. Pressing > > > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. > > > > So both keyboard and mouse are dead? That's a big bug! > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Fri Dec 8 05:36:50 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:06:50 +0530 Subject: how to download through windows Message-ID: Amichai; Could you get the details from what I have published Thanks in advance Regards Yagnesh > > > > I have published details of my PCMCIA card at http://desaiyn.tripod.com/laptop/CDMAX1.htm with details, screen shots and photo of the said card. Hope you can help. Thank you very much for showing interest in helping. I am new at Linux but I can provide any dump from my laptop if you give me what command line to use or what screen to look for. Thanks once again Regards Yagnesh > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:11:18 +0200 From: "Amichai Rotman" Subject: Re: how to download through windows To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" lspci - List PCI devices - just open a terminal and run the command, then copy and paste it in a msg - this way we'll know your modem's chipset and will be able to find the right driver for you. PCMCIA (or PC Card) hardware is managed by the pcmcia services.... Send us the data and we'll be able to check it out... Amichai From samjnaa at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 06:10:03 2006 From: samjnaa at gmail.com (Shriramana Sharma) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:40:03 +0530 Subject: Unable to restore Windows boot sector using dd Message-ID: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> Hello I have a question about Windows boot sector but the thing is to be done on Ubuntu so I am asking here. Aim: to restore a working Windows installation on /dev/sda1 using tar and dd. The short story: 1. tar | gzip the contents of sda1 and save it to another safe partition (or DVD). 2. dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/sda1-bootsector bs=512 count=1 3. 4. reformat the partition using mkdosfs. 5. tar | gunzip from the backup. 6. dd if=~/sda1-bootsector of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 count=1 This drops me to a GRUB commandline when I try to boot back into Windows and does not start Windows as expected. Why? What did I do wrong? The long story: I am trying to make a backup image of my Windows installation partition sda1 using some Linux utility so that I can simply restore a clean image and get working, whenever I have to reinstall Windows. I have successfully used partimage, but it has one big bug: it will not restore to a partition that is smaller than the original partition from which the image was created even if the image is smaller than (and hence can be contained within) the target partition. So I thought about just doing a tar.gz of the contents of sda1 and write it to a DVD. But that has a problem that it does not store the Windows bootloader which lies in the boot sector of sda1. When the partition contents are merely removed by rm -Rf * and the boot sector is untouched, then trying to boot to that partition via GRUB gives "NTLDR missing" which is the Windows bootloader's error message. If the NTLDR file is there, then that startup will go ahead without a problem. But when the partition is formatted using mkdosfs or something else (I tried BootIt NG) then just restoring the first 512 bytes of the partition using dd and the backup does not give me back the NTLDR missing error. Instead, I get a GRUB commandline when I tried to boot to the Win XP GRUB item. Furthermore when Kubuntu boots and tries to mount the partition as it is listed in fstab, it throws out the following error: [17179621.500000] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1) [17179621.500000] fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0) [17179621.500000] File system has been set read-only I don't know why this is happening or what to do now. Can anyone help? Shriramana Sharma. From baypos at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 06:40:33 2006 From: baypos at gmail.com (Roger Neth Jr) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:40:33 -0800 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <20061207222802.54000dcf@WizardsTower> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> <4578E109.2070903@grm.net> <20061207222802.54000dcf@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <731b056b0612072240g30b72a0el1575eeb8e7b2c664@mail.gmail.com> Hello Cybe, thanks for the consideration for keeping me on as I learn a lot from the forum and like to interact. Today I was responding to Herve about the bible quotes from previous. I have to say this is the first time I have used Linux on a daily basis for a few months. First Dapper then Edgy. There was a big update today of 85MB that surprised me. Thanks again, Roger On 12/7/06, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > Lorin Pino said: > [...] > > > > > Then maybe you could start using filters? ;) > > ~Lorin > > > Every few posts Roger actually discusses Ubuntu. > I'd hate to filter him and thereby lose a resource or fail to help if > possible. > > Cybe R. Wizard > -- > When Windows are opened the bugs come in. > Winduhs > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Fri Dec 8 07:11:24 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:11:24 +0100 Subject: Shredder ?! In-Reply-To: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165561884.4846.16.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 10:36 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > Having a 'shredder' icon to represent a regular move-to-trash or even > filesystem delete is seriously bad. It's a lie, it implies things are > shredded securely, but they aren't they're merely moved to the trash. Good point, file a bug > Secondly, is there an 'actual' secure shredding program/applet available > for Ubuntu? Something like 'Eraser' on Windows that will do multiple > over-writes with random data? The coreutils package contains "shred", and there is the package wipe From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 07:21:17 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:21:17 +0700 Subject: Unable to restore Windows boot sector using dd In-Reply-To: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> References: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165562477.26382.53.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 11:40 +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote: Heh, I fiddled around with something like this just last Sunday after an over-eager user removed a lot more from a windows drive than the virus she was trying to remove. :) Anyway, some comments: > When the partition contents are merely removed by rm -Rf * and the > boot sector is untouched, then trying to boot to that partition via > GRUB gives "NTLDR missing" which is the Windows bootloader's error > message. No it's not. NTLDR is a hidden system file on disk. Is it possible that when you create the tar file, you don't include system and/or hidden files? Make sure that the files NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI are included in the tar file, and are successfully put back. > But when the partition is formatted using mkdosfs or something else (I > tried BootIt NG) then just restoring the first 512 bytes of the > partition using dd and the backup does not give me back the NTLDR > missing error. Instead, I get a GRUB commandline when I tried to boot > to the Win XP GRUB item. Boot issues in Windows are most easily fixed using the Windows Recovery Console. The option to start this you get when booting from a Windows Installation CD. Then you get to a blue screen where one of the options is to press 'R' to start the recovery console. Note that it can also be installed on disk, so then it is available from the Windows boot menu. (See a Microsoft.com article on how to do that) Anyway, in the recovery console you have a limited set of commands that you can run, two of which are FIXMBR and FIXBOOT Those will restore a windows boot record, enabling you to boot into windows. Note that you won't get grub then. :-) So this works best if Windows is on a separate drive and you use the BIOS to select the drive to boot from. Finally I also recall that grub/Ubuntu is a bit weird with SATA (sda) drives and deciding from which drive to boot from / install grub on. Not sure if that has been corrected, but it was most definitely weird pre-dapper. > Furthermore when Kubuntu boots and tries to mount the partition as it > is listed in fstab, it throws out the following error: > > [17179621.500000] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1) > [17179621.500000] fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0) > [17179621.500000] File system has been set read-only Are you sure the original filesystem was FAT32? Because if you make a tar file from NTFS and then use Ubuntu to create a vfat / FAT32 filesystem, then I bet Windows will hit the fan violently. :-) So, I'm sorry there's no clear solutions in here, but I have this way of blabbering just enough around the topic to give smart people new ideas to move forward. :) Cheers, Chanchao From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Fri Dec 8 07:27:41 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:27:41 +0100 Subject: Shredder ?! In-Reply-To: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165562861.4846.32.camel@chronic> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 10:36 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > secure shredding program/applet I forgot to add in my other reply: note that man shred says that is not secure on journaled file systems, raid-based file systems, NFS 3, and compressed file systems. So it is actually pretty useless. Here is some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_wiping >From this it seems that wiping files on ntfs is also not secure, but I am no Windows expert IIRC wipe is more useful, but, again IIRC, is usually used on unmounted partitions. You have to ask the question what you want to guard against: keep in mind that that there is no simple "undelete" to recover deleted files. See the ext3 FAQ [1] "Q: How can I recover (undelete) deleted files from my ext3 partition? Actually, you can't! This is what one of the developers, Andreas Dilger, said about it: In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode, whereas ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block pointers alone. Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best." On reiserfs there seem to be ways, but it isn't easy: [2] xfs seems pretty impossible: [3] If you have high security requirements for discarded disks you shouldnot rely on wipe, but physically destroy the disk. [4] [1] http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html [2] http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments [3] http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html#undelete [4] Professional, e.g.: http://www.semshred.com/content291.html DIY: http://driveslag.eecue.com/ From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Fri Dec 8 07:29:34 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:29:34 +0100 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <20061207220059.6104baa7@WizardsTower> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> <731b056b0612071601s885cf9dua426d68d677f8971@mail.gmail.com> <20061207185026.73734b55@WizardsTower> <731b056b0612071852y189fcd90wf8f8e90aea11f0d2@mail.gmail.com> <20061207220059.6104baa7@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <1165562974.4846.34.camel@chronic> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 22:00 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Can you not take it somewhere else where it > isn't so off-topic such as the sounder list for Ubuntu? Please, it is offtopic for sounder too. I need to restrain myself every day to avoid writing flaming replys :) From yoyoofthemilk at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 07:37:49 2006 From: yoyoofthemilk at gmail.com (Keith Godat) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:37:49 -0800 Subject: Back to Windows... In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5adef3850610230124q5d01d90agbd6c9d50ddeb8b61@mail.gmail.com> <453C81C3.2010204@gmail.com> <453C8968.9020300@swissinfo.org> <200610231744.09483.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com> <4413284c0612071547v47e2a7f4r5d00f5c2695e0bac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579164D.1070201@gmail.com> Hervé Fache wrote: > On 10/23/06, wim delvaux wrote: > >> I personally and about (6 Billon - NoOfChristians) are offended by claimin >> that the TRUTH will make use free. especially if that TRUTH seems to point to >> something made up in 400 AC by some byzantian emperor >> > > Another that fell for the Dan Brown gospel I see. But this is > historically incorrect, just so you now. And no, Jesus was not the > grandfather of a French king (just to type it, I'm ROTFL). > > Oh, and there is no record of the priory of sion before the 1950s! > > Never mind, > Hervé. > I'm not a Christian, and I found the Dan Brown "gospel" really silly. From what I understand he ties everything to the painting of the last supper? And claims that, the effeminate fellow in it is a woman? If you look at many other paintings during that era, there are tons of effeminate looking men. From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 08:04:29 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:04:29 +0700 Subject: Shredder ?! In-Reply-To: <1165562861.4846.32.camel@chronic> References: <1165548995.26382.35.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165562861.4846.32.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <1165565069.26382.58.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Hi, > I forgot to add in my other reply: note that man shred says that is not > secure on journaled file systems, raid-based file systems, NFS 3, and > compressed file systems. So it is actually pretty useless. > > Here is some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_wiping > >From this it seems that wiping files on ntfs is also not secure, but I > am no Windows expert Just read the article, thanks!! I'm using ReiserFS on my Ubuntu partitions, however, following the recommendation in the wikipedia article, it seems it uses 'ordered data mode', which would suggest that safe wiping is possible: [17179578.396000] ReiserFS: hda7: using ordered data mode [17179608.024000] ReiserFS: hda8: using ordered data mode Though the article doesn't mention ReiserFS specifically, just ext3. Thanks for all the links and background info!! Cheers, Chanchao > [1] http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html > [2] > http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments > [3] http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html#undelete > > [4] Professional, e.g.: http://www.semshred.com/content291.html > DIY: http://driveslag.eecue.com/ From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Fri Dec 8 08:40:52 2006 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:40:52 +0100 Subject: Unable to restore Windows boot sector using dd In-Reply-To: <1165562477.26382.53.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> <1165562477.26382.53.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <45792514.8080805@kaiser-linux.li> Chanchao wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 11:40 +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > > Heh, I fiddled around with something like this just last Sunday after an > over-eager user removed a lot more from a windows drive than the virus > she was trying to remove. :) > > Anyway, some comments: > >> When the partition contents are merely removed by rm -Rf * and the >> boot sector is untouched, then trying to boot to that partition via >> GRUB gives "NTLDR missing" which is the Windows bootloader's error >> message. > > No it's not. NTLDR is a hidden system file on disk. Is it possible > that when you create the tar file, you don't include system and/or > hidden files? > > Make sure that the files NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI are included > in the tar file, and are successfully put back. > >> But when the partition is formatted using mkdosfs or something else (I >> tried BootIt NG) then just restoring the first 512 bytes of the >> partition using dd and the backup does not give me back the NTLDR >> missing error. Instead, I get a GRUB commandline when I tried to boot >> to the Win XP GRUB item. > > Boot issues in Windows are most easily fixed using the Windows Recovery > Console. The option to start this you get when booting from a Windows > Installation CD. Then you get to a blue screen where one of the options > is to press 'R' to start the recovery console. Note that it can also be > installed on disk, so then it is available from the Windows boot menu. > (See a Microsoft.com article on how to do that) > > Anyway, in the recovery console you have a limited set of commands that > you can run, two of which are > > FIXMBR > > and > > FIXBOOT > > Those will restore a windows boot record, enabling you to boot into > windows. Note that you won't get grub then. :-) So this works best if > Windows is on a separate drive and you use the BIOS to select the drive > to boot from. > > Finally I also recall that grub/Ubuntu is a bit weird with SATA (sda) > drives and deciding from which drive to boot from / install grub on. > Not sure if that has been corrected, but it was most definitely weird > pre-dapper. > >> Furthermore when Kubuntu boots and tries to mount the partition as it >> is listed in fstab, it throws out the following error: >> >> [17179621.500000] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1) >> [17179621.500000] fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0) >> [17179621.500000] File system has been set read-only > > Are you sure the original filesystem was FAT32? Because if you make a > tar file from NTFS and then use Ubuntu to create a vfat / FAT32 > filesystem, then I bet Windows will hit the fan violently. :-) > > So, I'm sorry there's no clear solutions in here, but I have this way of > blabbering just enough around the topic to give smart people new ideas > to move forward. :) > > Cheers, > Chanchao > > Hi I did the same some days ago. Tar.gz the whole windows partition and put it on a new partition. This worked without problems. But the new Partition was made in Windoz. Be careful with the first 512 Bytes of the partition. There are some more infos not only the boot code! The boot code is around 440 Bytes and the rest are informations about the partition itself. I don't remember everything, but google knows :-) fixboot should correctly repair the partition boot sector. Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 09:07:43 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:07:43 +0700 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file Message-ID: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> A week or two ago I had major instability problems, lock-ups and so on. Turned out that Edgy somehow lost it's swap file. I then reinstalled everything from scratch. Now I have the same thing again it seems. I just got another lock-up, and upon rebooting and checking System Monitor it shows me Used Swap: '0 bytes out of 0 bytes'. I'm VERY positive that it had swap upon reinstallation, because I checked! So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go use the swap partition? Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Fri Dec 8 09:10:18 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:10:18 +0700 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file In-Reply-To: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165569018.4942.5.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> > So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go > use the swap partition? I did check the fstab file, it does mention a swap file: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/hda7 UUID=df4e8992-2a83-4dfd-bba4-b85a448ee6b1 / reiserfs notail 0 1 # /dev/hda8 UUID=45aee921-12ac-4227-9041-01a517b5fb59 /home reiserfs defaults 0 2 # /dev/hda1 UUID=5E8471C78471A1E7 /media/drive-c ntfs-3g users,rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 # /dev/hda5 UUID=7C7B-03FC /media/drive-d vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 # /dev/hda6 UUID=173e4af7-fb67-445f-adec-8111b3842ea4 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 From terrence at terrencevak.net Fri Dec 8 09:18:33 2006 From: terrence at terrencevak.net (Terrence van Ettinger) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:18:33 -0900 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> nOT SURE WHAT MAKE/MODEL MY MOTHERBOARD IS; IS THERE A WAY IN uBUNTU TO FIGURE THAT OUT? i FINALLY DID GET MY uBUNTU TO WORK AGAIN BY REINSTALLING IT. i'M THINKING THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER os, BECAUSE THE REINSTALL OF uBUNTU HAS FIXED THE KERNEL PANIC ISSUE AT LEAST FOR BOOTING TO uBUNTU, AND THE ISSUE DIDN'T EVEN COME UP UNTIL i TRIED TO INSTALL THAT OTHER os ON THE OTHER DRIVE. tERRENCE From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Fri Dec 8 09:19:27 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:19:27 +1100 Subject: Unable to restore Windows boot sector using dd In-Reply-To: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> References: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061208201927.313db84e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:40:03 +0530 "Shriramana Sharma" wrote: > 1. tar | gzip the contents of sda1 and save it to another safe > partition (or DVD). > 2. dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/sda1-bootsector bs=512 count=1 /dev/sda1 is the first partition, not the MBR - I assume you wanted to copy your MBR, which would be the first 512 bytes of /dev/sda > 3. > 4. reformat the partition using mkdosfs. > 5. tar | gunzip from the backup. > 6. dd if=~/sda1-bootsector of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 count=1 Your (6) puts the file on the first 512 bytes of the *first partition* of /dev/sda ( /dev/sda1) - i think you have both dd commands wrong, as below: From http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm MBR backup In order to backup only the first few bytes containing the MBR and the partition table you can use dd as well. dd if=/dev/hdx of=/path/to/image count=1 bs=512 MBR restore dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/hdx Add "count=1 bs=446" to exclude the partition table from being written to disk. You can manually restore the table. In your case you would substitute /dev/sda ( rather than /dev/hdx ) As for the "mkdosfs" - I've never used it, but the man page suggests you would need the -F option to set FAT32. Whether Windows will recognise the file system thus created, I don't know. In any case FAT32 is a nasty filesystem.... Also, using dd should not require a pre-existing file system, since dd is very low-level and copies both the file system and the data, if I understand correctly. On the other hand, as you are using tar and gzip to back up, you are not mirroring the partition, so a file system would be required for your method, if I understood it correctly. Perhaps all this would be better done with something like "Ghost for Linux" or some other tool that actually mirrors your partition ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l Peter From gerard.bigot at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 09:21:11 2006 From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:21:11 +0100 Subject: Server Recommendations! In-Reply-To: <995b0fb00612071751t67483071q43804f70d115ba69@mail.gmail.com> References: <995b0fb00612071751t67483071q43804f70d115ba69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46db19270612080121q4825adf4of7e3c666ca2b3bc7@mail.gmail.com> Hi, It's not in my habits to say this, but with this amount of money, maybe you should contact directly ubuntu.com and buy some of their server support? G. On 12/8/06, Gary Jarrel wrote: > > Hi All! > > I need some advice on configuring a web and a database server - quite > powerful both running Ubuntu. The configuration which I've come up > with for both servers is as follows: > > 2 x Xeon 3Ghz Dual Core Processors (4 processors approx :) > Dual Xeon Motherboard > 4 x 2Ggb DDR2 533 ECC Memory (8Gig) > 4 Port 3WARE Sata2 RAID controller > > That being the core then for the web server: > > 4 x 320 SATA2 Drives 16Mb Cache (Hardware RAID5 of 3Ware Controller) > > and the DB server: > > 2 x 320 SATA2 16Mb Cache Drives (Software Raid of motherboard for OS) > 4 x 750 SATA2 16Mb Cache Drives (Hardware RAID5 of 3Ware Controller > for Database) > > All drives are 7200RPM > > The two machines will be connected via a CAT6e Twisted Pair cable > using one of the Gigabit LAN on each board - for web server access to > the database. The Web server then connects to the local intranet using > the other Gigabit LAN. > > I need to obtain very good performance out of both machines for quite > a large user base. I would prefer to use Ubuntu 64bit (board, > processor, 3ware raid are all 64 bit) as Ubuntu is indeed very stable > and I already have a number of servers running on it (but not this > powerful) > > For the web server it will probably run Tomcat (will most probably > leave Apache 2 out with Tomcat direct on port 80 as this seems to work > quite well in my previous experience) the database server at this > stage will be MySQL5 but this has not been finalised. > > The main concern is with the 2 x Dual Core processors - Will ubuntu be > able to address both processors and both cores on each concurrently > and will it improve the performance of the system. Will MySQL be able > to address the four processors and 8Gb of RAM. Will better performance > be achieved using 16Gb? > > There are a few other options which are available and they include: > > 1. Xeon 3.2Ghz Processors (also dual core)? > 2. 667Mhz Memory (2Gb Modules) instead of 533? expensive toys > 3. Westan Digital makes 10000RPM SATA2 Drives in 74Gb and 150Gb (all > have 8Mb cache except for one model in the 150Gb range which has 16Mb > cache) - also expensive toys. > > Would there perhaps be a benefit of running the OS on either the Web > Server or DB Server (or both) using the faster drives? Can't run the > database of these drives as I will run out of storage too quick. > > Sorry for the long email, but some advice would be much appreciated > from anyone involved in server configs, set ups or any other > information!!! > > Thank you > > Gary > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 8 09:28:05 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:28:05 +0100 Subject: how to download through windows References: Message-ID: Hi, YAGNESH N DESAI wrote: > I have published details of my PCMCIA card at > http://desaiyn.tripod.com/laptop/CDMAX1.htm > > with details, screen shots and photo of the said card. > > >> > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:11:18 +0200 > From: "Amichai Rotman" > > lspci - List PCI devices - just open a terminal and run the command, then > copy and paste it in a msg - this way we'll know your modem's chipset and > will be able to find the right driver for you. > > PCMCIA (or PC Card) hardware is managed by the pcmcia services.... > > Send us the data and we'll be able to check it out... > > Amichai Hi, Just on a sidenote, why did you disable your internal modem in your BIOS? If your PCMCIA modem card turns out to fail with Linux, you could give your internal Modem another try. Start here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:R52 from there: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/IBM_Integrated_56K_Modem_%28MDC-2%29 and finally: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Conexant_HSF_modem_drivers As I understand, you can even test the drivers for free (at 14,4kbps) before paying $15 to connexant to get full modem speed. hth regards Eberhard From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 09:29:48 2006 From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:29:48 +0100 Subject: Backspace in Firefox Message-ID: <379ea5900612080129s2cb8c1f7r48804f22ad479e9c@mail.gmail.com> Hi all In Ubuntu 6.06 pressing in Firefox took me to the previous page I viewed. In Ubuntu 6.10 it does not. I hope this is something that can be set or adjusted somewhere, even if I can't find anything that looks related in Firefox Preferences. If not I am unsure if this is an intended "feature" or a bug. Regards, Bjørn Ingmar Berg -- blog.bergcube.net/ From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 8 10:23:51 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:23:51 -0200 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> Message-ID: <4413284c0612080223t10e2d893mae2ee537fbed4e89@mail.gmail.com> The command lspci will give a list of PCI devices in your system, which is probably good enough. In your case, the problem seems to have been related to the boot loader (triggered by the other installation), but it's just a finger in the air kind of guess. Hervé. On 12/8/06, Terrence van Ettinger wrote: > nOT SURE WHAT MAKE/MODEL MY MOTHERBOARD IS; IS THERE A WAY IN uBUNTU TO > FIGURE THAT OUT? i FINALLY DID GET MY uBUNTU TO WORK AGAIN BY > REINSTALLING IT. i'M THINKING THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER os, > BECAUSE THE REINSTALL OF uBUNTU HAS FIXED THE KERNEL PANIC ISSUE AT > LEAST FOR BOOTING TO uBUNTU, AND THE ISSUE DIDN'T EVEN COME UP UNTIL i > TRIED TO INSTALL THAT OTHER os ON THE OTHER DRIVE. > > tERRENCE > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From ben at cvrse.com Fri Dec 8 10:39:30 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:39:30 +1100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061207230351.fc0188d5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061207214201.GA4972@rip.cvrse.com> <20061207230351.fc0188d5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061208103930.GA10524@rip.cvrse.com> * Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > ben darby wrote: > > im not sure what you mean by "properly" as i would consider changing the > > permissions -x on > > Hmm, I was thinking "proper" as in "remove the schedule job", just like > your remove/uninstall an application and not just remove its icon from > the menu ;-) anacron uses run-parts to run all the executable scripts in relevant directories whether it be daily, weekly, or monthly. along the same lines as the /etc/rcX.d directories. so removing execution privileges from the file will remove it from the schedule. > Ah, looks like you over-estimated my understanding of cron...thanks for > the starting point ! > I need a beginners guide, an overview of how cron works, what files are > involved, how to remove a job, what commands and utility (if any) are > used to work with cron, etc, etc. > Also, cron is not enough. ISTR that updatedb nowadays on Ubuntu is > triggered by anacron, not cron. So, on top of cron, I need to have a > working knowledge of anacron as well, and what is the relation between > the two... if any. i think your being confused by the naming scheme used, or the way that cron is configured by default in ubuntu means cron wont execute those directories if anacron is installed (see /etc/crontab) cron will execute at a specific time, day, + interval if the computer isn't running at that time the job will not execute until the next time that combination comes around. therefore has its disadvantages on a desktop machine that wont necessarily be available 24/7 and possibly never actually be running when the jobs are scheduled. that's where anacron comes in... anacron doesn't run at a specific time, but will ensure that its jobs are run as close to the intervals specified as possible (IE. job specified to be run daily but the machine is only active every second, it will just run the job once every second day) and the jobs + frequencies are specified by their location(daily, weekly, monthly) + presence of an executable script. cron uses /etc/crontab + a crontab for any user that creates one in /var/spool/cron/crontabs to edit/create a schedule for your user use 'crontab -e' for the file format 'man 5 crontab' hopefully i've covered all your questions there. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 10:47:02 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 02:47:02 -0800 Subject: Shredder ?! Message-ID: Shredder ?! No need to shred if you encrypt first! Take a look at Erposs. I am sure you can set something like this up on Ubuntu; maybe just on one partion if speed is a problem. >From Distrowatch.com "During LinuxTag 2004 the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) and the company credativ unveiled the Linux Government Desktop. The Linux Goverment Desktop has been developed within the scope of the project ERPOSS which evaluates Open Source Software in government environments. Composed entirely of free software the distribution is available as a live CD as well as an install CD. One of the highlights brought by the Government Desktop is the fact that it saves the whole data on encrypted filesystems. Furthermore KMail is preconfigured to send and receive encrypted e-mail (GnuPG and S/MIME) and to make use of all kinds of authority certificates. The package is completed by integrated spam and virus protection and a preconfigured personal firewall." On top of that you can pre-encrypt before saving and then use wipe or whatever after that. ;-) Also if you are REALLY paranoid just use a live distro with your HD unplugged. Also look here for IP hiding and other good stuff. http://tor.eff.org/ Passwords are VERY important! If it is something like "god" then my encryption breaking software will be through your super 256 bit encryption like a hot knife through butter but faster! LOL. If you have 256 bit encryption then you better have a 128 bit RANDOM password. Is your Bios password protected? How about Grub? And your Wifi, hope it is not in the clear or using wep! Is your computer case key-locked? And the passwords?? Are they good or is it the name of your dog plus your kids birthday? A bit of good advise on passwords. http://www.cs.umd.edu/faq/Passwords.shtml For you programmers out there how long does it take your computer to count to 100,000,000? That is how long it takes to guess your password, if it is the last one the computer tries and your password is 8 digits long! You say that there is a delay? So what? If I have 1000 accounts that I am cracking and I tell my computer to do it for me then all I have to do is go on vacation come home a week later and get your money or whatever. Do I care that the computer only broke the first 500 easy ones? NO! But do you? YES!! Because you were smart and had the hardest one! Also easy marks breed more thieves! Thus YOU do care about those 500 bad passwords. If you think that your lap top will be stolen then make it start a boot-up script to phone home(or email or whatever). This script can find out all sorts of stuff, if it is on the net, about where it is connecting from. It could even make a video of the user if you have a camera or a mike in the system. All without the user even knowing it. Also, What of mugging? Can you fight well? LOL Do you have bars on the windows and locks that can't be picked (I learned to pick my front door including the deadbolt in 30 minutes. After a week I could open it faster with my homemade pick than with my badly made key!. Do you leave your laptop in the front seat of the car at the supermarket? Look into the RF protection of the USA computer systems. Even the basic ones have RF shielding sometimes. Real total safety is real work. Firewalls, virus protection, IP blockers I could go on but I am sure there are better places for all this. If you want more then I need to know what it is you are hiding from and what you are hiding. Mother? Girlfriend/Boyfriend? Wife? Work IT guy? Some other companies IT guys that want your companies info? Thieves? Police? NSA? (US secrete information collection and analysis agency, also known as No Such Agency) UFO men? Hope my little rant helped and did not waste to much of your time or bandwidth. Douglas From ben at cvrse.com Fri Dec 8 10:50:36 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:50:36 +1100 Subject: Backspace in Firefox In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612080129s2cb8c1f7r48804f22ad479e9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900612080129s2cb8c1f7r48804f22ad479e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061208105036.GB10524@rip.cvrse.com> * Bj?rn Ingmar Berg wrote: > Hi all > > In Ubuntu 6.06 pressing in Firefox took me to the previous > page I viewed. In Ubuntu 6.10 it does not. > I hope this is something that can be set or adjusted somewhere, even > if I can't find anything that looks related in Firefox Preferences. > If not I am unsure if this is an intended "feature" or a bug. the default setting changed in firefox 2, no idea why but is easy to change it back. enter about:config in the address bar filter for 'browser.backspace_action' and change its value to 0 (zero) -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I never sent you any email with such contents... > >open /etc/cron.daily in Konqueror, and remove the offending entry. Please clarify.... Regards, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From marius at pov.lt Fri Dec 8 11:27:51 2006 From: marius at pov.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:27:51 +0200 Subject: Backspace in Firefox In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612080129s2cb8c1f7r48804f22ad479e9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <379ea5900612080129s2cb8c1f7r48804f22ad479e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061208112751.GA32449@fridge.pov.lt> On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 10:29:48AM +0100, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: > In Ubuntu 6.06 pressing in Firefox took me to the previous > page I viewed. In Ubuntu 6.10 it does not. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/60995 > I hope this is something that can be set or adjusted somewhere, even > if I can't find anything that looks related in Firefox Preferences. It's hidden in about:config. Change browser.backspace_action to 0. > If not I am unsure if this is an intended "feature" or a bug. "Feature". Firefox developers changed it. Marius Gedminas -- Any time somebody tells you that you shouldn't do something because it's "unprofessional," you know that they've run out of real arguments. -- Joel Spolski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Carsten PS: In case anyone wonders where I stumbled across this: libhdf5 defines some data types to be long long unsigned int and this can break your neck at some point :( -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers edgy-updates APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy-backports'), (500, 'edgy') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages gcc depends on: ii cpp 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 The GNU C preprocessor (cpp) ii gcc-4.1 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 The GNU C compiler Versions of packages gcc recommends: ii libc6-dev [libc-dev] 2.4-1ubuntu12 GNU C Library: Development Librari -- no debconf information From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Fri Dec 8 11:36:07 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:36:07 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061208103930.GA10524@rip.cvrse.com> References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061207214201.GA4972@rip.cvrse.com> <20061207230351.fc0188d5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061208103930.GA10524@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <20061208123607.dfee7d3d.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> ben darby wrote: > ....... > hopefully i've covered all your questions there. Ah, thanks for your time, I will read all that carefully and experiment... -- Vince From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Dec 8 12:18:51 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:18:51 +0000 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file In-Reply-To: <1165569018.4942.5.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165569018.4942.5.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1165580332.5706.0.camel@worldventures> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:10 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > > So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go > > use the swap partition? > > I did check the fstab file, it does mention a swap file: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # /dev/hda7 > UUID=df4e8992-2a83-4dfd-bba4-b85a448ee6b1 / reiserfs > notail 0 1 > # /dev/hda8 > UUID=45aee921-12ac-4227-9041-01a517b5fb59 /home reiserfs > defaults 0 2 > # /dev/hda1 > UUID=5E8471C78471A1E7 /media/drive-c ntfs-3g > users,rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 > # /dev/hda5 > UUID=7C7B-03FC /media/drive-d vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 > 1 > # /dev/hda6 > UUID=173e4af7-fb67-445f-adec-8111b3842ea4 none swap sw > 0 0 > /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > I can only suggest sudo swapon /dev/hda6 that will at least give you the swap back while you/we figure out the root cause. No need to reinstall in any case. > From richard at LPAgroup.biz Fri Dec 8 12:31:02 2006 From: richard at LPAgroup.biz (Richard Steinitz) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:31:02 +0200 Subject: No access to Gmail Message-ID: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> Hi! I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works great, but ... In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying "Connecting to Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out. In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home page. Any ideas why this is? Thanks Richard Steinitz - LPA Group P.O. Box 1791, Ramat HaSharon 47117 ISRAEL Tel: +972-9-955-6161 / Fax: +972-9-954-1585 E-mail: HYPERLINK "mailto:richard at LPAgroup.biz"richard at LPAgroup.biz Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 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Independently of that, though, how might I get my music playing in such a way as I don't cringe? -- Lennon Victor Cook "He who receives an idea from me receives without lessening, as he who lights his candle at mine receives light without darkening" -- Thomas Jefferson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 01:05:47 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:05:47 -0400 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, > and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of > running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but > so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. > > I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea > for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to > "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? It's in /etc/cron.daily/ -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 01:07:29 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:07:29 -0400 Subject: Installed (auto removable) References: <379ea5900612071032o7b0d2f5w3002a8e6177bdf5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Freddie Ruddick wrote: > On 07/12/06, Bjørn Ingmar Berg wrote: >> I suspect these are packages >> that are no longer needed due to me having removed the package(s) that >> depended on them. Is this correct? > > Yes, I believe so No. They're "auto installed" as dependencies, and thus will be auto-removed if the app that depended on them is removed. Try removing one now - you'll see that it wants to remove something else. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 01:01:46 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:01:46 -0400 Subject: gnome-network-manager (applet): Nuisance? [question & rant] References: <1165464605.5054.10.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: Chanchao wrote: > Is this applet really more nuisance than it's worth? Whenever it sees > a wireless network (ANY network) that's open, it immediately connects to > it, trashing any configured DNS information for my eth0 wired LAN > connection in the process. I've never seen that happen, and particularly it is supposed to always choose a wired connection over a wireless one. Do you have one of those not-well-implemented wireless NICs that tells HAL it's wired? > And more generally, while I'm ranting anyway, WHY is DNS a global thingy > anyway across all networks? Surely DNS settings are relative to the > connection used, so if I'm using eth0 LAN at the office then I have a > DNS server there, and then I'm at home on WiFi ADSL then I have a > different DNS there. Yeah? So???? :-) Generally, your DHCP server sends the DNS information when it sends the IP address, so you _should_ always have different DNS settings at different locations. network-manager sends plenty of information to syslog about that. I love network-manager. If only my wireless NIC was reliable, because nm has made the rest of network management completely painless. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 01:04:38 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:04:38 -0400 Subject: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs References: <1165511027.5285.35.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <6aqm44-2tn.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > On 12/7/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. >> When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the >> computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and >> its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I >> alter on these ubuntu machines? > > I'm at work at the moment and can't check the actual filenames, but if > you go into /etc then type dhcp (I think it's /etc/dhcp, but > don't hold me to that), there's a conf file in there. One of the > options is "send name to server" or something very similar to that. # grep send /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf send host-name "othello"; _Some_ dhcp clients obey the "hostname" setting in /etc/network/interfaces. I don't know why most never did. -- derek From melissa at meldraweb.com Fri Dec 8 13:37:18 2006 From: melissa at meldraweb.com (Melissa Draper) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:37:18 +1100 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> References: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> Message-ID: <45796A8E.7020505@meldraweb.com> Richard Steinitz wrote: > *Hi!* > *I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works > great, but ...* > ** > *In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying "Connecting > to Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out.* > *In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home page.* > ** > *Any ideas why this is? > > Thanks* > > > *Richard Steinitz - LPA Group > **P.O. Box 1791, Ramat HaSharon 47117 ISRAEL > **Tel: +972-9-955-6161 / Fax: +972-9-954-1585 > **E-mail: richard at LPAgroup.biz * > > ** > > * > > > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, > and I'm not sure about the former. > > ** Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)* > > ** > > *Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.* > * George Santayana (1863 - 1952)* > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/579 - Release Date: > 07/12/06 1:31 PM > Richard, Are you able to connect to any web pages at all? (What about http://ubuntu.com or http://yahoo.com?) Do other web things work? (ie, synaptic, irc) -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641 From squareyes at internode.on.net Fri Dec 8 13:49:59 2006 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:19:59 +1030 Subject: Xubuntu Message-ID: <45796D87.8040901@internode.on.net> Hi all, many thanks for Xubuntu, now have it running on an old 166 processor, 64 meg of EDO ram, and a 2.2 gig drive. Perfectly usable, a little slow, but 5 minutes here or there in 10,512,000 minutes approx ( figuring on around 20 years left) is neither here or there. Reasonable as an Internet machine, and there are thousands of similar machines around that could be using it. Thanks again Take Care Winton From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 8 13:46:32 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:46:32 +0100 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> References: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> Message-ID: Hi, Am 08.12.2006 um 13:31 schrieb Richard Steinitz: > Hi! > I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works > great, but ... > > In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying > "Connecting to Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out. > In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home > page. > > Any ideas why this is? > javascript is disabled? That's the only reason I could think of hth martin From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 13:42:15 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:42:15 +0000 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> References: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> Message-ID: <45391f280612080542j715fb619x50d22038702c0cae@mail.gmail.com> On 08/12/06, Richard Steinitz wrote: > > *Hi!* > *I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works great, > but ...* > ** > *In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying "Connecting to > Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out.* > *In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home page.* > ** > *Any ideas why this is? > * > You DO have internet connectivity don't you? Can you get to any other websites? If not, check your default route. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 8 13:51:25 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:51:25 +0100 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: <45796A8E.7020505@meldraweb.com> References: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> <45796A8E.7020505@meldraweb.com> Message-ID: Am 08.12.2006 um 14:37 schrieb Melissa Draper: > Are you able to connect to any web pages at all? (What about > http://ubuntu.com or http://yahoo.com?) > > Do other web things work? (ie, synaptic, irc) from what he said it works, also the message he said he's seeing is something that already comes from google.... \martin From devraj at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 14:03:10 2006 From: devraj at gmail.com (Devraj Mukherjee) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 01:03:10 +1100 Subject: Creating packages for Ubuntu, help not sure where I am going In-Reply-To: <6f1a4380612071645h4b04e115nf63719e095f6219@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d57c6570612071549y2e9d669bqdeca314a2f05c724@mail.gmail.com> <6f1a4380612071645h4b04e115nf63719e095f6219@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d57c6570612080603r7b2fc038mdd543585dac67aca@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dave, Thanks for that. I did follow the Ubuntu packaging guide and after the last steps (that is running lintan) I am not sure what it produced!! I can't locate the debian package. Am I looking at the right spots? On 12/8/06, David Symons wrote: > On 12/8/06, Devraj Mukherjee wrote: > > Are there any guides that can help me build debian packages from > > source packages. > > Hi Devraj, > > The Ubuntu Packaging Guide is available via System -> Help -> System > Documentation on a desktop Ubuntu installation or online here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html > > Regarding setting up your own repository, Falcon is definitely worth a > look. Ubuntu packages for it are available via: > http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ > (which is itself a Falcon generated repository :-) ) > > HTH. > > Cheers, Dave. > -- > David Symons > https://launchpad.net/people/bimberi > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "I never look back darling, it distracts from the now", Edna Mode (The Incredibles) From philrendell at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 14:16:09 2006 From: philrendell at gmail.com (Phil Rendell) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:16:09 +0000 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: References: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a@OFFICE1> <45796A8E.7020505@meldraweb.com> Message-ID: <888938120612080616k5ece3b14n8455158cc7e58885@mail.gmail.com> Richard, I had this problem a while back. I'm not sure, but I think I fixed it by deleting my cookies. 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URL: From beattie at beattie-home.net Fri Dec 8 14:38:55 2006 From: beattie at beattie-home.net (Brian Beattie) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:38:55 -0800 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> Message-ID: <1165588736.5620.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 00:18 -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote: > nOT SURE WHAT MAKE/MODEL MY MOTHERBOARD IS; IS THERE A WAY IN uBUNTU TO > FIGURE THAT OUT? i FINALLY DID GET MY uBUNTU TO WORK AGAIN BY > REINSTALLING IT. i'M THINKING THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER os, > BECAUSE THE REINSTALL OF uBUNTU HAS FIXED THE KERNEL PANIC ISSUE AT > LEAST FOR BOOTING TO uBUNTU, AND THE ISSUE DIDN'T EVEN COME UP UNTIL i > TRIED TO INSTALL THAT OTHER os ON THE OTHER DRIVE. You are obviously on a Commadore Pet or 64 as they are the only machines that invert upper and lower case. > > tERRENCE > > -- Brian Beattie LFS12947 | "Honor isn't about making the right choices. beattie at beattie-home.net | It's about dealing with the consequences." www.beattie-home.net | -- Midori Koto From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 8 14:57:38 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:57:38 +0000 Subject: Changes in Gimp. Message-ID: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> For more than a year I have used Gimp with Turboprint to produce my photographic prints without a border. Now, for some reason, I am no longer able to do this. I recently set up a new box with Ubuntu 6.06.1 and since then all my attempts to produce a print without a border have resulted in top and sides no border but a white border at the bottom. I have carried out various tests to try to identify the cause of the problem and the results point very strongly at Gimp. For example, printing from a terminal via Turboprint only, resulted in a perfect print. The current version of Gimp is 2.2.11 as is the version on my old box. However, a noticeable change has taken place in the window in which the print settings are made. For example, on the old box I could set my paper at 5 x 7 borderless but now no borderless paper sizes are listed, instead there is a button marked borderless. On the old box the image to be printed fitted neatly into the paper outline in the preview panel. On my new box, the same image overhangs the paper outline with the overhang being most obvious at the bottom. Is there anyone who can throw some light on what I can do to produce the borderless prints I want? I still have my old box so I can carry out comparative tests if any are suggested. Perhaps there is a way in which I can find the version of Gimp that I used to use and load it to replace the Gimp I have. If so, I would be grateful if I could be told what to do. I apologise for this long post but I wanted to show that I have tried to solve the problem before coming to the list. Norman From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Dec 8 15:06:44 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:06:44 -0500 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning Message-ID: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application needed at the time of install, for the app, when using remove completely. also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in the lib or bin, folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the system, other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being used by nothing. is there a command to clean out left overs? Thanks - Rich From pesterhazy at gmx.net Fri Dec 8 15:14:06 2006 From: pesterhazy at gmx.net (Paulus Esterhazy) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:14:06 +0100 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file In-Reply-To: <1165580332.5706.0.camel@worldventures> References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165569018.4942.5.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165580332.5706.0.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy schrieb: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:10 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >>> So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go >>> use the swap partition? Major bug - yes. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66637 Also there are some hints as to how to fix this. I wonder how this bug could persist so long. ~ Paulus From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Fri Dec 8 15:30:42 2006 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:30:42 -0500 Subject: pypanel fails to run on Edgy after install Message-ID: <1165591842.10147.3.camel@pspotts> Folks, I'm running openbox on Ubuntu Edgy, and for a task bar/system tray I'm trying to use pypanel. I've installed it from the repository via the package manager, but there doesn't seem to be an executable anywhere...when I try to run it from a terminal, I get command not found -- as user and sudo. Is this a broken package? Or (more likely) am I missing something painfully obvious? Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 8 15:53:03 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:53:03 +0100 Subject: pypanel fails to run on Edgy after install In-Reply-To: <1165591842.10147.3.camel@pspotts> References: <1165591842.10147.3.camel@pspotts> Message-ID: try dpkg -L pypanel|grep bin OR find /usr -type f -iname 'pypanel' on the console (don't use it here but that should give you a first location to start off) hth martin Am 08.12.2006 um 16:30 schrieb Peter N. Spotts: > Folks, > > I'm running openbox on Ubuntu Edgy, and for a task bar/system tray I'm > trying to use pypanel. I've installed it from the repository via the > package manager, but there doesn't seem to be an executable > anywhere...when I try to run it from a terminal, I get command not > found > -- as user and sudo. Is this a broken package? Or (more likely) am I > missing something painfully obvious? > > Pete > > -- > Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter > The Christian Science Monitor > One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA > Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 > Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB > www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users > From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Fri Dec 8 15:54:22 2006 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:54:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning Message-ID: <470239.65770.qm@web58901.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Richard wrote: > when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, > is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application > needed at the time of install, > for the app, when using remove completely. > > also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in > the lib or bin, > folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the > system, > other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being > used by nothing. > > is there a command to clean out left overs? > > Thanks - > Rich > > > I use deborphan to clean out old libs. It checks for libs and other packages that are no longer useful. I set it up as a filter in synaptic after I installed it so I don't have to run it from the command line. Brandon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From T.Six at gmx.de Fri Dec 8 16:10:21 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:10:21 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Vincent Trouilliez wrote the following on 07.12.2006 18:14: > Hi, > > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, > and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of > running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but > so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. > > I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea > for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to > "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? > > TIA... > > Vince cd /etc/cron.weekly/ sudo mv find.notslocate ../cron.weekly/ sudo mv slocate ../cron.weekly/ (or you could even move it to /etc/cron.monthly/ ) This way you do not loose all the functionalty off locate but it is less disturbing. I use it this way. bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Fri Dec 8 16:18:58 2006 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:18:58 -0500 Subject: pypanel fails to run on Edgy after install In-Reply-To: References: <1165591842.10147.3.camel@pspotts> Message-ID: <1165594738.11483.0.camel@pspotts> Many thanks. Your first string indicated it was in /usr/bin. But a close inspection of /usr/bin showed nothing there by that name. The second string shows something in /usr/share/menu, but its not the executable...weird. Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 8 16:32:40 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:32:40 +0100 Subject: pypanel fails to run on Edgy after install In-Reply-To: <1165594738.11483.0.camel@pspotts> References: <1165591842.10147.3.camel@pspotts> <1165594738.11483.0.camel@pspotts> Message-ID: <98495D4D-F6DB-4358-899D-AF921BC336CF@openforce.com> it's a python script try calling it with pyhton pypanel from the shell what the strings where: dpkg -L pypanel|grep bin this lists all files in the package 'pypanel' then pipes the output to grep which scans for everything that contains 'bin' find /usr -type f -iname 'pypanel' find under the path '/usr' all files (-type f) with the name 'pypanel' and ignore the case (hence iname). hth martin Am 08.12.2006 um 17:18 schrieb Peter N. Spotts: > Many thanks. > > Your first string indicated it was in /usr/bin. But a close inspection > of /usr/bin showed nothing there by that name. The second string shows > something in /usr/share/menu, but its not the executable...weird. > > Pete > -- > Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter > The Christian Science Monitor > One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA > Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 > Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB > www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users > From richard at LPAgroup.biz Fri Dec 8 15:39:47 2006 From: richard at LPAgroup.biz (Richard Steinitz) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:39:47 +0200 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007901c71adf$17b6beb0$0100000a@OFFICE1> Melissa Draper wrote: Richard, Are you able to connect to any web pages at all? (What about http://ubuntu.com or http://yahoo.com?) Do other web things work? (ie, synaptic, irc) -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641 Richard Steinitz - LPA Group P.O. Box 1791, Ramat HaSharon 47117 ISRAEL Tel: +972-9-955-6161 / Fax: +972-9-954-1585 E-mail: richard at LPAgroup.biz Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana (1863 - 1952) -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:49 PM To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 53 Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file (Gabriel Dragffy) 2. No access to Gmail (Richard Steinitz) 3. XUbuntu Edgy - choppy sound (Lennon Cook) 4. Re: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? (Derek Broughton) 5. Re: Installed (auto removable) (Derek Broughton) 6. Re: gnome-network-manager (applet): Nuisance? [question & rant] (Derek Broughton) 7. Re: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs (Derek Broughton) 8. Re: No access to Gmail (Melissa Draper) 9. Xubuntu (squareyes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:18:51 +0000 From: Gabriel Dragffy Subject: Re: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1165580332.5706.0.camel at worldventures> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:10 +0700, Chanchao wrote: > > So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go > > use the swap partition? > > I did check the fstab file, it does mention a swap file: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # /dev/hda7 > UUID=df4e8992-2a83-4dfd-bba4-b85a448ee6b1 / reiserfs > notail 0 1 > # /dev/hda8 > UUID=45aee921-12ac-4227-9041-01a517b5fb59 /home reiserfs > defaults 0 2 > # /dev/hda1 > UUID=5E8471C78471A1E7 /media/drive-c ntfs-3g > users,rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 > # /dev/hda5 > UUID=7C7B-03FC /media/drive-d vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 > 1 > # /dev/hda6 > UUID=173e4af7-fb67-445f-adec-8111b3842ea4 none swap sw > 0 0 > /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > I can only suggest sudo swapon /dev/hda6 that will at least give you the swap back while you/we figure out the root cause. No need to reinstall in any case. > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:31:02 +0200 From: Richard Steinitz Subject: No access to Gmail To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <003f01c71ac4$b8f8e520$0100000a at OFFICE1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Hi! I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works great, but ... In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying "Connecting to Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out. In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home page. Any ideas why this is? Thanks Richard Steinitz - LPA Group P.O. Box 1791, Ramat HaSharon 47117 ISRAEL Tel: +972-9-955-6161 / Fax: +972-9-954-1585 E-mail: HYPERLINK "mailto:richard at LPAgroup.biz"richard at LPAgroup.biz Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana (1863 - 1952) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/579 - Release Date: 07/12/06 1:31 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20061208/5c394b23/attachme nt-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 23:58:22 +1100 From: Lennon Cook Subject: XUbuntu Edgy - choppy sound To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <45796177.61c679ee.5642.ffffaeab at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have just done a fresh install of Xubuntu Edgy. All is going well so far, except that whenever I try to play anything in my music player (The rox desktop's MusicBox), the sound is incredibly choppy and scratchy. totem-gstreamer works fine. The primary difference I can see between these is that MusicBox is python whereas Totem is C - could this be a python-alsaaudio problem? Independently of that, though, how might I get my music playing in such a way as I don't cringe? -- Lennon Victor Cook "He who receives an idea from me receives without lessening, as he who lights his candle at mine receives light without darkening" -- Thomas Jefferson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20061208/20c97f3a/attachme nt-0001.pgp ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:05:47 -0400 From: Derek Broughton Subject: Re: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, and I > would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of running > when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but so > rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. > > I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an > idea for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to > "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? It's in /etc/cron.daily/ -- derek ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:07:29 -0400 From: Derek Broughton Subject: Re: Installed (auto removable) To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Freddie Ruddick wrote: > On 07/12/06, Bj?rn Ingmar Berg wrote: >> I suspect these are packages >> that are no longer needed due to me having removed the package(s) that >> depended on them. Is this correct? > > Yes, I believe so No. They're "auto installed" as dependencies, and thus will be auto-removed if the app that depended on them is removed. Try removing one now - you'll see that it wants to remove something else. -- derek ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:01:46 -0400 From: Derek Broughton Subject: Re: gnome-network-manager (applet): Nuisance? [question & rant] To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chanchao wrote: > Is this applet really more nuisance than it's worth? Whenever it sees > a wireless network (ANY network) that's open, it immediately connects to > it, trashing any configured DNS information for my eth0 wired LAN > connection in the process. I've never seen that happen, and particularly it is supposed to always choose a wired connection over a wireless one. Do you have one of those not-well-implemented wireless NICs that tells HAL it's wired? > And more generally, while I'm ranting anyway, WHY is DNS a global thingy > anyway across all networks? Surely DNS settings are relative to the > connection used, so if I'm using eth0 LAN at the office then I have a > DNS server there, and then I'm at home on WiFi ADSL then I have a > different DNS there. Yeah? So???? :-) Generally, your DHCP server sends the DNS information when it sends the IP address, so you _should_ always have different DNS settings at different locations. network-manager sends plenty of information to syslog about that. I love network-manager. If only my wireless NIC was reliable, because nm has made the rest of network management completely painless. -- derek ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:04:38 -0400 From: Derek Broughton Subject: Re: No Ubuntu hostnames in DHCP logs To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <6aqm44-2tn.ln1 at news.pointerstop.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > On 12/7/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> We have a wireless router here which acts as a gateway and DHCP server. >> When checking its logs the Windows based clients are listed using the >> computer names. However, Ubuntu based machines have a blank hostname and >> its a little tedious matching up MACs with IPs. What setting must I >> alter on these ubuntu machines? > > I'm at work at the moment and can't check the actual filenames, but if > you go into /etc then type dhcp (I think it's /etc/dhcp, but > don't hold me to that), there's a conf file in there. One of the > options is "send name to server" or something very similar to that. # grep send /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf send host-name "othello"; _Some_ dhcp clients obey the "hostname" setting in /etc/network/interfaces. I don't know why most never did. -- derek ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:37:18 +1100 From: Melissa Draper Subject: Re: No access to Gmail To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45796A8E.7020505 at meldraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255 Richard Steinitz wrote: > *Hi!* > *I'm running 6.10 on an old Pentium III / 800 mhz desktop. Works > great, but ...* > ** > *In Firefox, I can't access Gmail. Just sits there saying "Connecting > to Google.com..." and does nothing until it times out.* > *In the same way, I can't 'sign it' to my personalized Google home page.* > ** > *Any ideas why this is? > > Thanks* > > > *Richard Steinitz - LPA Group > **P.O. Box 1791, Ramat HaSharon 47117 ISRAEL > **Tel: +972-9-955-6161 / Fax: +972-9-954-1585 > **E-mail: richard at LPAgroup.biz * > > ** > > * > > > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, > and I'm not sure about the former. > > ** Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)* > > ** > > *Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.* > * George Santayana (1863 - 1952)* > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/579 - Release Date: > 07/12/06 1:31 PM > Richard, Are you able to connect to any web pages at all? (What about http://ubuntu.com or http://yahoo.com?) Do other web things work? (ie, synaptic, irc) -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:19:59 +1030 From: squareyes Subject: Xubuntu To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45796D87.8040901 at internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, many thanks for Xubuntu, now have it running on an old 166 processor, 64 meg of EDO ram, and a 2.2 gig drive. Perfectly usable, a little slow, but 5 minutes here or there in 10,512,000 minutes approx ( figuring on around 20 years left) is neither here or there. Reasonable as an Internet machine, and there are thousands of similar machines around that could be using it. Thanks again Take Care Winton ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 53 ******************************************** Melissa: I have no problems connecting to the web, the downloads work fine and so does Google search. It's only (?) the Gmail and the sign-in that refuse to respond. Thanks in advance Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/579 - Release Date: 07/12/06 1:31 PM From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Dec 8 12:55:49 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:55:49 +0100 Subject: evince update - post-installation script returned error... In-Reply-To: (Thilo Six's message of "Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:31:28 +0100") References: Message-ID: <87hcw6tulm.fsf@spamfence.net> Thilo Six wrote: > Hello > > I have question about the following message i get with my update now: > > <-------------------------------------------------------- > Setting up evince (0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2) ... > dpkg: error processing evince (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 > Errors were encountered while processing: > evince > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > A package failed to install. Trying to recover: > Setting up evince (0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2) ... > dpkg: error processing evince (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 > Errors were encountered while processing: > evince > --------------------------------------------------------> > > This is on a machine that is only used once or twice a week and > therefore the update were direct to 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 . > On an other machine which is daily used and update the update of evince > went smoothly 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 -> 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.1 -> 0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 > > Sine the error message above persist, can someone give a hint what to do? The error is raised somewhere in /var/lib/dpkg/info/evince.postinst Insert there set -x after the first line and run sudo dpkg --configure --pending That should tell you what's wrong. Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Dec 8 12:42:49 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:42:49 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> (Vincent Trouilliez's message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:14:04 +0100") References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <87lklitv7a.fsf@spamfence.net> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, > and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of > running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but > so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. > > I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea > for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to > "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? IMHO changing permissions of /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate is the most proper way. Florian -- From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 17:48:04 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:48:04 -0400 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165569018.4942.5.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <1165580332.5706.0.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Paulus Esterhazy wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy schrieb: >> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:10 +0700, Chanchao wrote: >>>> So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go >>>> use the swap partition? > > Major bug - yes. > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66637 > > Also there are some hints as to how to fix this. I wonder how this bug > could persist so long. Chanchao: I had a problem like this and discovered that I had just misconfigured powersave - I had manually specified my hibernation partition, so it was turning off the default swap partition, activating the specified one (which happened to be the same), saving data to the hibernate partition, hibernate/resume, loading data from the swap and then turning off swap! -- derek From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Fri Dec 8 18:09:18 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:09:18 -0800 Subject: wireless In-Reply-To: <995b0fb00611292012m73102a52l1b1280264724dbe8@mail.gmail.com> References: <456E4556.6050705@cableone.net> <995b0fb00611292012m73102a52l1b1280264724dbe8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579AA4E.1030204@systemstheory.net> Gary Jarrel wrote: > I used to have a heap of trouble on the HP connecting to a secure > wireless network, but then I downloaded NetworkManager Applet and > it worked a treat, and I reckon it's a lot better then windows, for > one thing, it saves the wireless keys in the key ring so when I > travel between offices the first time I get anywhere I enter the > wireless key and forget about it, next time I get into this office, > I simply start up the notebook, enter the password to my keyring, > and I'm connected automatically. > > Gary Aaaah! Now that's a very useful feature. Thanks for sharing. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Dec 8 18:56:14 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:56:14 +0000 Subject: ubuntu on a laptop, regular unwanted disc access Message-ID: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> Running Ubuntu on a laptop here, the drive is formatted Ext3. I understand that Linux undertakes some tasks etc to keep things running smoothly, nevertheless every couple of seconds the hard drive light goes on and I can hear access. It doesn't seem to do much than just access the hard drive. Since this is a laptop I am concerned the battery life will be somewhat degraded because the drive won't ever get to power-save and spin down. Is there something that is recommended to be altered? Regards Gabe From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 8 19:11:23 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:11:23 +0100 Subject: ubuntu on a laptop, regular unwanted disc access In-Reply-To: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> References: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4579B8DB.5080202@welcomes-you.com> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Is there something that is recommended to be altered? That's a pretty difficult subject. I think there is a howto on http://www.tlpd.org/, however I haven't found it just yet and it might be slightly outdated. If I remember correctly, the biggest problem is that the syslogd writes ever once in a while into /var/log/syslog and other files. Putting /var/log into a ramdisk might help, also switching swap off as well, however, with /var/log/ not on disk anymore, you might lose the possiblity to diagnose problems. >From my experience, switching off hard disks does not seem to save an awful lot of wattage, the biggest problem is probably memory (don't put too much memory into the system), the CPU (use all the powersave you can get) and reduce the backlight brightness as much as possible. Sorry, for having only these too general guidelines :( Carsten From terrence at terrencevak.net Fri Dec 8 11:28:52 2006 From: terrence at terrencevak.net (Terrence van Ettinger) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:28:52 -0900 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <1165588736.5620.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> <1165588736.5620.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1165577337.5067.5.camel@dufus.gci.net> Actually, I'm sure it isn't one of those, ass they aren't a 686 if I remember right. The upper/lower case thing is due to the fact that my wireless keyboard sometimes doesn't send the signal to release the shift key when I'm done with it until I've written way too much in upper case and have to go back and edit like crazy. Unfortunately I hadn't gotten Orca's uppercase voice set up since my reinstall, so I didn't see what had happened. Sorry about that bit of confusion/inconvenience. Terrence On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 06:38 -0800, Brian Beattie wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 00:18 -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote: > > nOT SURE WHAT MAKE/MODEL MY MOTHERBOARD IS; IS THERE A WAY IN uBUNTU TO > > FIGURE THAT OUT? i FINALLY DID GET MY uBUNTU TO WORK AGAIN BY > > REINSTALLING IT. i'M THINKING THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER os, > > BECAUSE THE REINSTALL OF uBUNTU HAS FIXED THE KERNEL PANIC ISSUE AT > > LEAST FOR BOOTING TO uBUNTU, AND THE ISSUE DIDN'T EVEN COME UP UNTIL i > > TRIED TO INSTALL THAT OTHER os ON THE OTHER DRIVE. > > You are obviously on a Commadore Pet or 64 as they are the only machines > that invert upper and lower case. > > > > > tERRENCE > > > > > -- > Brian Beattie LFS12947 | "Honor isn't about making the right choices. > beattie at beattie-home.net | It's about dealing with the consequences." > www.beattie-home.net | -- Midori Koto > > > From terrence at terrencevak.net Fri Dec 8 11:39:13 2006 From: terrence at terrencevak.net (Terrence van Ettinger) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:39:13 -0900 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612080223t10e2d893mae2ee537fbed4e89@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> <4413284c0612080223t10e2d893mae2ee537fbed4e89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165577956.5067.13.camel@dufus.gci.net> Here's my lspci results; I've cut out parts that I'm sure don't have anything to do with the motherboard. 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) ... 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) Not sure which of these would divulge the needed info for the motherboard; a lot of it seems to be intel; I assume those numbers afterward would be the model? Terrence From marius at pov.lt Fri Dec 8 20:35:34 2006 From: marius at pov.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:35:34 +0200 Subject: ubuntu on a laptop, regular unwanted disc access In-Reply-To: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> References: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <20061208203534.GD17354@fridge.pov.lt> On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 06:56:14PM +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Running Ubuntu on a laptop here, the drive is formatted Ext3. I > understand that Linux undertakes some tasks etc to keep things running > smoothly, nevertheless every couple of seconds the hard drive light goes > on and I can hear access. It doesn't seem to do much than just access > the hard drive. By default ext3 updates file access times every time you read a file, an does a journal commit every 5 seconds. You can change both with mount options (mount / -o remount,noatime,commit=600). If you enable laptop-mode, it does that, and also spins down the disk when you're not accessing it. > Since this is a laptop I am concerned the battery life will be somewhat > degraded because the drive won't ever get to power-save and spin down. > > Is there something that is recommended to be altered? Enable laptop-mode. IIRC you can do that in /etc/default/acpi-support. It is off by default: # Switch to laptop-mode on battery power - off by default as it causes odd # hangs on some machines ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false Marius Gedminas -- The clothes have no emperor. -- C.A.R. Hoare, commenting on ADA. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Fri Dec 8 21:41:05 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:41:05 +0100 Subject: SOLVED: evince update - post-installation script returned error... In-Reply-To: <87hcw6tulm.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <87hcw6tulm.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: Florian Diesch wrote the following on 08.12.2006 13:55: > The error is raised somewhere in /var/lib/dpkg/info/evince.postinst > Insert there > set -x > after the first line and run > sudo dpkg --configure --pending > That should tell you what's wrong. > > > Florian Thank you for your help. I tried your tip without success. Then i changed it back to standard and changed the shabang to #!/bin/bash after that i got: dpkg --configure --pending Setting up evince (0.5.2-0ubuntu3.2) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/evince.postinst: line 11: 5671 Segmentation fault scrollkeeper-update -q >/dev/null 2>&1 i comented line 11 and it´s relevants out and then it worked. scrollkeeper can run with the next cron. again thanks and bye ;) Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From brian at fahrlander.net Fri Dec 8 21:49:41 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:49:41 -0600 Subject: DemocracyPlayer (0.9.2) and repositories Message-ID: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 OK, I installed the latest DemocracyPlayer on my main machine by upgrading all packages, installing the two .debs from their site, and now I've tried DOZENS of times to reproduce the effort. But the most I get is: root at ws02:~# dpkg -i /home/brian/Desktop/democracyplayer_0.9.2.1-1ubuntupcf_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package democracyplayer. (Reading database ... 86008 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking democracyplayer (from .../democracyplayer_0.9.2.1-1ubuntupcf_i386.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of democracyplayer: democracyplayer depends on libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.1); however: Version of libatk1.0-0 on system is 1.11.4-0ubuntu1. democracyplayer depends on libboost-python1.33.1; however: Package libboost-python1.33.1 is not installed. democracyplayer depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20. democracyplayer depends on libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4); however: Version of libcairo2 on system is 1.0.4-0ubuntu1. democracyplayer depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12); however: Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5. democracyplayer depends on libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0); however: Version of libglib2.0-0 on system is 2.10.3-0ubuntu1. democracyplayer depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3); however: Version of libgtk2.0-0 on system is 2.8.20-0ubuntu1. democracyplayer depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.5); however: Version of libpango1.0-0 on system is 1.12.3-0ubuntu3. democracyplayer depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12); however: Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.3-1ubuntu5. democracyplayer depends on libxine1 (>= 1.1.2-5); however: Package libxine1 is not installed. democracyplayer depends on python-support (>= 0.3.4); however: Package python-support is not installed. democracyplayer depends on python-gnome2-extras (>= 2.14.0-2); however: Version of python-gnome2-extras on system is 2.14.0-0ubuntu3. democracyplayer depends on democracyplayer-data (>= 0.9.1-1); however: Package democracyplayer-data is not installed. dpkg: error processing democracyplayer (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: democracyplayer - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. To begin with, I started with the SAME FREAKIN' sources.list. For some reason that didn't work. Isn't that annoying? 2. My sources.list (from a machine that doesn't work) is below: - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse # deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main # deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper main - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Can someone see what this tired old head can't comprehend? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFed316PLtRzZbdhYRAq64AJwI26u9cTvwKjslOZyYJ4ant8IbJgCeIQ81 UAbQRfuR4dr1cRB99iFeL7U= =Xnys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hwbj at twcny.rr.com Fri Dec 8 22:01:58 2006 From: hwbj at twcny.rr.com (Harold Bibik) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:01:58 -0500 Subject: Kernel Panic, Part 2 In-Reply-To: <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> References: <4413284c0612071628m3ee0aaacv83df3e60da850c50@mail.gmail.com> <1165569516.6605.4.camel@dufus.gci.net> Message-ID: <1165615318.15132.4.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 00:18 -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote: > nOT SURE WHAT MAKE/MODEL MY MOTHERBOARD IS; IS THERE A WAY IN uBUNTU TO > FIGURE THAT OUT? i FINALLY DID GET MY uBUNTU TO WORK AGAIN BY > REINSTALLING IT. i'M THINKING THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER os, > BECAUSE THE REINSTALL OF uBUNTU HAS FIXED THE KERNEL PANIC ISSUE AT > LEAST FOR BOOTING TO uBUNTU, AND THE ISSUE DIDN'T EVEN COME UP UNTIL i > TRIED TO INSTALL THAT OTHER os ON THE OTHER DRIVE. > > tERRENCE > > try using lshw sudo lshw -html > ~/lshw_report.html works for me...then just go to your home directory and open lshw_report with your web browser with your web browser. you can read the man page with man lshw hope that helps From stude.list at googlemail.com Fri Dec 8 23:14:43 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 23:14:43 +0000 Subject: DemocracyPlayer (0.9.2) and repositories In-Reply-To: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> References: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> Your sources list has dapper sources, I don't think dapper has new enough packages, it may work on Edgy though. (libatk for instance is too old in Dapper, but has a new enough version in Edgy). Also why do you have breezy-backports? should it not be dapper-backports? - Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From slewin at rogers.com Sat Dec 9 00:10:42 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:10:42 -0500 Subject: DemocracyPlayer (0.9.2) and repositories In-Reply-To: <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> References: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579FF02.5050204@rogers.com> Andy wrote: > Also why do you have breezy-backports? should it not be dapper-backports? Yes, you should have the dapper backports, that may solve your problem. If it does not, try and get v0.9.1. I know for a fact that does work on dapper as I have used that version on dapper. > > - Andy > -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux Kubuntu 6.10 system From bfwalker at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 02:34:47 2006 From: bfwalker at gmail.com (Brian Walker) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:34:47 +0800 Subject: No access to Gmail In-Reply-To: <007901c71adf$17b6beb0$0100000a@OFFICE1> References: <007901c71adf$17b6beb0$0100000a@OFFICE1> Message-ID: <54f1b6eb0612081834s17d3e5f9yf1245a31edae77d8@mail.gmail.com> Come on - if you are going to quote the digest of the messages, at least trim the messages - I already have the originals of the ones you copied back to us! Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Dec 9 02:43:37 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:43:37 -0500 Subject: apt segfaults, what now? Message-ID: <1165632217.5650.15.camel@localhost> running edgy on a dell latitude d820 with a kernel from feisty (2.6.19). Everything's been running smooth as silk but today apt is segfaulting -- that includes apt-cache, apt-get, synaptic... dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xxx.deb DOES work so I assume the issue is somewhere in the level above dpkg. any hints? THanks, matt I never know what happens -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Sat Dec 9 03:14:26 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:14:26 -0500 Subject: apt segfaults, what now? In-Reply-To: <1165632217.5650.15.camel@localhost> References: <1165632217.5650.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457A2A12.20601@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matt Price wrote: > running edgy on a dell latitude d820 with a kernel from feisty (2.6.19). > Everything's been running smooth as silk but today apt is segfaulting -- > that includes apt-cache, apt-get, synaptic... dpkg > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xxx.deb DOES work so I assume the issue is > somewhere in the level above dpkg. any hints? sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin && sudo apt-get update Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFein3e9GwFciKvaMRAstVAKCTQ1nFG8o5hys0as58Khk3WAwELgCgtFUF E1Ja7uCyE440DcS2eeztGbY= =HFx1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Dec 9 04:18:06 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:18:06 -0500 Subject: apt segfaults, what now? In-Reply-To: <457A2A12.20601@fungus.sh.nu> References: <1165632217.5650.15.camel@localhost> <457A2A12.20601@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <1165637886.5741.8.camel@localhost> thanks daniel works great! matt On Fri, 2006-08-12 at 22:14 -0500, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Matt Price wrote: > > running edgy on a dell latitude d820 with a kernel from feisty (2.6.19). > > Everything's been running smooth as silk but today apt is segfaulting -- > > that includes apt-cache, apt-get, synaptic... dpkg > > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xxx.deb DOES work so I assume the issue is > > somewhere in the level above dpkg. any hints? > > sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin && sudo apt-get update > > Thanks, > - -- > Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com > GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFein3e9GwFciKvaMRAstVAKCTQ1nFG8o5hys0as58Khk3WAwELgCgtFUF > E1Ja7uCyE440DcS2eeztGbY= > =HFx1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I use it this way. > > > bye Thilo From ben at cvrse.com Sat Dec 9 09:19:32 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:19:32 +1100 Subject: Video quality measurement (PSNR etc. for h.264) Tool required In-Reply-To: <20061207175238.GB7783@gmx.de> References: <20061207175238.GB7783@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20061209091932.GA7362@rip.cvrse.com> * Luqman wrote: > hi, > > I like to measure video quality between different versions of a video > content. Is there any open source utility that gives me the required > quality measurement results. > > I am particularly interested in PSNR but also other approaches would be > welcomed. the official mplayer tarball includes a script to compute the PSNR between two video files in the TOOLS subdir (psnr-video.sh) it basically just extracts every frame to an image file and does the computations and comparisons from there, so you need to install the netpbm package aswell. but as you can imagine it uses ALOT of disk space depending on the number of frames + quality -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Dec 9 09:19:42 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:19:42 -0600 Subject: DemocracyPlayer (0.9.2) and repositories In-Reply-To: <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> References: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457A7FAE.7020602@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy wrote: > Your sources list has dapper sources, I don't think dapper has new > enough packages, it may work on Edgy though. (libatk for instance is > too old in Dapper, but has a new enough version in Edgy). Well, the successful install is on Dapper; the product claims to be Dapper-compatible, and might support Edgy. > Also why do you have breezy-backports? should it not be dapper-backports? Is that not how that works? (It's an old original file) I thought having that meant a collection of new packages back ported TO Breezy; I should probably change all that to Edgy, aye? Thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFen+u6PLtRzZbdhYRAli0AJ9Y4maJVYedu/eDUJNxikHL1Un9EwCbB2/c KQFytSQ7Jgnw5GDL7luRJhM= =7Na2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 09:29:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:29:46 +0200 Subject: borderless printing In-Reply-To: <1165348056.1001.17.camel@localhost> References: <1165348056.1001.17.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612090129w96c2300rb6d749e6c6632dc2@mail.gmail.com> On 05/12/06, norman wrote: > I have recently set up a new box and loaded the latest version of > Dapper. I am now not able to print borderless prints correctly. I use > Gimp, Turboprint and an Epson Stylus Photo R300. I can only guess that > the problem could be with Gimp, which I think is a different version to > that on the original Dapper or with CUPS, which I understand is not the > latest version. Has anyone any suggestions please on how to determine > what is wrong? > > Norman > > Norman, did you ever figure this out? I'd like to print borderlessly, as well. Even when I set the borders to 0, I get about 2 cm on each side (HP OfficeJet 4255). I'm not sure if the printer is capable of printing borderlessly, but I think so. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/linux-software.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/opera.html From ben at cvrse.com Sat Dec 9 09:38:06 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:38:06 +1100 Subject: DemocracyPlayer (0.9.2) and repositories In-Reply-To: <457A7FAE.7020602@fahrlander.net> References: <4579DDF5.1060005@fahrlander.net> <219482c0612081514r19f6ecc4off5f8f57d6c89289@mail.gmail.com> <457A7FAE.7020602@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <20061209093806.GA5465@vaio.cvrse.com> * Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Is that not how that works? (It's an old original file) I thought > having that meant a collection of new packages back ported TO Breezy; I > should probably change all that to Edgy, aye? > your running dapper so you want the dapper-backports, this[1] will probably clear up any misunderstandings you have. [1] - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 9 10:29:42 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:29:42 +0000 Subject: borderless printing In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090129w96c2300rb6d749e6c6632dc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165348056.1001.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090129w96c2300rb6d749e6c6632dc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165660182.5072.13.camel@localhost> > Norman, did you ever figure this out? I'd like to print borderlessly, > as well. Even when I set the borders to 0, I get about 2 cm on each > side (HP OfficeJet 4255). I'm not sure if the printer is capable of > printing borderlessly, but I think so. Yes and no. No matter what I do, Gimp will not give a borderless print. However, if I ignore Gimp and print from a terminal using Turboprint only, result is a perfect, borderless print. There is a free trial version of Turboprint available and how to print is detailed in the help notes. Anything else you may want just ask. Norman From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 9 11:08:32 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:08:32 +0000 Subject: firefox Message-ID: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> There was a brief interruption in the power supply and now I am not able to get the firefox start up screen. Firefox starts from a bookmark no problem. What do I do to recover the start up screen please? Norman From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 11:34:42 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:34:42 +0200 Subject: borderless printing In-Reply-To: <1165660182.5072.13.camel@localhost> References: <1165348056.1001.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090129w96c2300rb6d749e6c6632dc2@mail.gmail.com> <1165660182.5072.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612090334p738ff7ct7d44d1f1b0d06f4b@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, norman wrote: > > > Norman, did you ever figure this out? I'd like to print borderlessly, > > as well. Even when I set the borders to 0, I get about 2 cm on each > > side (HP OfficeJet 4255). I'm not sure if the printer is capable of > > printing borderlessly, but I think so. > > Yes and no. No matter what I do, Gimp will not give a borderless print. > However, if I ignore Gimp and print from a terminal using Turboprint > only, result is a perfect, borderless print. There is a free trial > version of Turboprint available and how to print is detailed in the help > notes. Anything else you may want just ask. > > Norman > > Thanks. I might look into that, if I can't find a FOSS solution. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/393/palmer_robert.php http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_are_the_advantages_of_lcd_monitors.html From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 11:37:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:37:03 +0200 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, norman wrote: > There was a brief interruption in the power supply and now I am not able > to get the firefox start up screen. Firefox starts from a bookmark no > problem. What do I do to recover the start up screen please? > > Norman It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour in preferences. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/49/16/ac-dc/ballbreaker.php http://mechonot.com From maguswizardo at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 11:47:03 2006 From: maguswizardo at gmail.com (Lennon Cook) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:47:03 +1100 Subject: XUbuntu Edgy - choppy sound -SOLVED Message-ID: <457aa241.052caa12.75d5.224c@mx.google.com> Lennon Cook wrote: > I have just done a fresh install of Xubuntu Edgy. All is going well > so far, except that whenever I try to play anything in my music player > (The rox desktop's MusicBox), the sound is incredibly choppy and > scratchy. totem-gstreamer works fine. The primary difference I can see > between these is that MusicBox is python whereas Totem is C - could > this be a python-alsaaudio problem? Independently of that, though, how > might I get my music playing in such a way as I don't cringe? This was, naturally, a trivial solution - I needed pyao. -- Lennon Victor Cook "He who receives an idea from me receives without lessening, as he who lights his candle at mine receives light without darkening" -- Thomas Jefferson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 9 12:15:27 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:15:27 +0000 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165666527.5072.19.camel@localhost> > It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour > in preferences. Would you please be kind enough to indicate which settings to change. Norman From alain.muls at telenet.be Sat Dec 9 12:19:26 2006 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:19:26 +0100 Subject: networkmanager Message-ID: <200612091319.26351.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hello, I had networkmanger installed and working fine, but one day I removed my trusted network from the list (an error from me ;-( ). I tried to reenable the network, but networkmanager did use that network anymore as it preferred wifi connection afterwards. I was unable to locate the configuraion files (are there any or is it build up on runtime?). SO I decided to purge networkmanager and reinstalled it. Now I cannot even get networkmanager to run anymore. How to reenable it correctly?. mvg/Alain From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 12:44:10 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:44:10 +0200 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <1165666527.5072.19.camel@localhost> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165666527.5072.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612090444w433c13c7t470af7f0dc3e6177@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, norman wrote: > > > It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour > > in preferences. > > Would you please be kind enough to indicate which settings to change. > > Norman > No! Well, alright: Edit -> Preferences -> Main -> Startup When Firefox Start [Show my home page] It should actually be the very first thing that you see when you open Preferences. If you have the Tab Mix extension it also has a seperate session restore function. So, disable that (if relevant). Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/protocol.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/141/culture_club.php From norman at littletank.org Sat Dec 9 14:19:12 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:19:12 +0000 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090444w433c13c7t470af7f0dc3e6177@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165666527.5072.19.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090444w433c13c7t470af7f0dc3e6177@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165673952.5072.34.camel@localhost> > Well, alright: > Edit -> Preferences -> Main -> Startup > When Firefox Start [Show my home page] I must have a different version of Firefox to you. There is no Main tab, the first is General. On selecting this, the options I have in the Home Page panel are Use Current Page, Use Bookmark and Use Blank page. I had tried these before putting my question. > It should actually be the very first thing that you see when you open > Preferences. It has just occurred to me that perhaps what I am looking for is a setting within the view menu. It is, problem solved. It must be the week-end effect causing me to be somewhat dim! Norman From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sat Dec 9 15:40:57 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 16:40:57 +0100 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? Message-ID: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Hello, Yesterday I wanted to try OpenSuse 10.2 that'a just been released. No no, no intent to cheat on Ubuntu officer, honnest, just meant to look at the competition to see where we stand. In VMware it hung, so I tried in Qemu. I have never used Qemu before, but the latest version was in Edgy so I installed painlessly. Suse installed fine from the DVD ISO, but it was sooooo slow (took about 4 hours, no kidding). I went to the Qemu website: http://www.qemu.org/kqemu-doc.html and gathered that there is kernel module, called "Kqemu" one must use to accelerate significantly Qemu and make it eventually useful. I didn't find that Kqemu thing in the Ubuntu repos, so I followed the instructions given on the above link. I downloaded it, compiled, loaded it by hand ("sudo modprobe kqemu"), tripled checked that /dev/kqemu existed, that is was loaded in memory (I used lsmod), and I start Qemu as root to avoid any permission problem on the module, as mentioned on the site. Then I start Qemu, hoping for the best... and quickly disappointed, Suse runs so slow that it hardly can respond to mouse input properly. I went to the Ubuntu Wiki, but didn't find any Edgy specific/relevant Howto, only obsolete stuff. So if anyone has managed to get Kqemu working on Edgy, I would gratefully receive your guidance... :-) regards, -- Vince From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 16:06:55 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:06:55 -0600 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 13:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 09/12/06, norman wrote: > > There was a brief interruption in the power supply and now I am not able > > to get the firefox start up screen. Firefox starts from a bookmark no > > problem. What do I do to recover the start up screen please? > > > > Norman > > It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour > in preferences. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/49/16/ac-dc/ballbreaker.php > http://mechonot.com > Where is that found in Preferences? I can't see it in FF2.0. Thx, Gerry From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Dec 9 11:47:25 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:47:25 +0100 Subject: Shredder ?! In-Reply-To: (Knapp's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2006 02:47:02 -0800") References: Message-ID: <87r6v9qoj6.fsf@spamfence.net> Knapp wrote: > For you programmers out there how long does it take your computer to > count to 100,000,000? That is how long it takes to guess your > password, if it is the last one the computer tries and your password > is 8 digits long! If you have 64 characters to use for passwords (you have more) than there are 64^8=281,474,976,710,656 possible passwords. If you could check 1,000,000 passwords a second it would take you about 4.5 years in the avarage to crack a password. > 1000 accounts that I am cracking and I tell my computer to do it for > me then all I have to do is go on vacation come home a week later and > get your money or whatever. Do I care that the computer only broke the > first 500 easy ones? NO! But do you? YES!! Because you were smart and > had the hardest one! Also easy marks breed more thieves! Thus YOU do > care about those 500 bad passwords. When I was an administrator for a university computer lab a few years ago we regularly tried to crack user's passwords to find the weak ones. Usually we cracked the first 10 passwords in less than 10 seconds. If you want to play with this have a look at john: ,----[ john ] | Package: john | Description: active password cracking tool | john, mostly known as John the Ripper, is a tool designed to help systems | administrators to find weak (easy to guess or crack through brute force) | passwords, and even automatically mail users warning them about it, if it | is desired. | . | It can also be used with different cyphertext formats, including Unix's | DES and MD5, Kerberos AFS passwords, Windows' LM hashes, BSDI's extended DES, | and OpenBSD's Blowfish. | . | Homepage: http://www.openwall.com/john/ `---- Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Dec 9 11:53:52 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:53:52 +0100 Subject: shell script for change GNOME Desktop fonts In-Reply-To: <7e1371fc0612080122o3854e7bfyf5f1fe2ee38ed573@mail.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?4K6u4K+BCeCuruCur+CvguCusOCuqeCvjSdz?= message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:22:33 +0800") References: <7e1371fc0612080122o3854e7bfyf5f1fe2ee38ed573@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87mz5xqo8f.fsf@spamfence.net> "மு.மயூரன் | M.Mauran" wrote: > Please someone help me to finish one of my projects. I need a piece of > shell script to change all desktop fonts inti serif 9 (including title > bar font, desktop font, application font, menu font) on GNOME Desktop. You can change Gnome preferences using gconftool. Use gconf-editor to find out which preference keys you need to change. Florian -- From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Dec 9 12:19:28 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:19:28 +0100 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> (Richard's message of "Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:06:44 -0500") References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <87irglqn1r.fsf@spamfence.net> Richard wrote: > when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove > them, is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the > application needed at the time of install, for the app, when using > remove completely. > > also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in > the lib or bin, folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY > application, OR the system, other words, parts of application, that > are sitting there and not being used by nothing. With synaptic you can define a filter for "orphaned" packages: I don't have english locales but I guess it's the item "filters" in the "settings" menu; create a new filter, name it e.g. "orpahned" and unckeck every checkbox on the right side except for "orphaned" and hit the ok button. Now when you are in the main window click on the "filters" button in the lower left corner and you'll get a list of available filters. Choose the one you just created and you'll get a list of libs and such that are not required by others (which doesn't mean they are not used by others if they're installed, so be careful when removing packages you don't understnad what they do). Florian -- From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 16:22:06 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:22:06 +0200 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <1165673952.5072.34.camel@localhost> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165666527.5072.19.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090444w433c13c7t470af7f0dc3e6177@mail.gmail.com> <1165673952.5072.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612090822k4d383ce0tdd3369563135f510@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, norman wrote: > > > Well, alright: > > Edit -> Preferences -> Main -> Startup > > When Firefox Start [Show my home page] > > I must have a different version of Firefox to you. There is no Main tab, > the first is General. On selecting this, the options I have in the Home > Page panel are Use Current Page, Use Bookmark and Use Blank page. I had > tried these before putting my question. > > > It should actually be the very first thing that you see when you open > > Preferences. > > It has just occurred to me that perhaps what I am looking for is a > setting within the view menu. It is, problem solved. It must be the > week-end effect causing me to be somewhat dim! > > Norman > Sounds like Fx 1.x. I was talking about 2.x. I should have specified that. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_are_the_advantages_of_lcd_monitors.html http://yadya.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 16:23:16 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:23:16 +0200 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <880dece00612090823q270cfe4foee75acea53668fe0@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, Gerry Visel wrote: > > It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour > > in preferences. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/49/16/ac-dc/ballbreaker.php > > http://mechonot.com > > > Where is that found in Preferences? I can't see it in FF2.0. > > Thx, Gerry > >From my previous email: Edit -> Preferences -> Main -> Startup When Firefox Start [Show my home page] It should actually be the very first thing that you see when you open Preferences. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/164/dixie_chicks.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/php.html From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 16:31:33 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:31:33 -0600 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090823q270cfe4foee75acea53668fe0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> <880dece00612090823q270cfe4foee75acea53668fe0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165681893.5286.18.camel@Wind> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 18:23 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 09/12/06, Gerry Visel wrote: > > > It's recovering from your last session. You can change that behaviour > > > in preferences. > > > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > > Where is that found in Preferences? I can't see it in FF2.0. > > > > Thx, Gerry > > > > >From my previous email: > Edit -> Preferences -> Main -> Startup > When Firefox Start [Show my home page] > > It should actually be the very first thing that you see when you open > Preferences. > > Dotan Cohen I already have that set to home page, and don't have Tab Mix add-on, yet still get the recovery behavior in FF 2.0. I'm running a gnome session in Kubuntu Edgy. Gerry From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 17:01:09 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 19:01:09 +0200 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <1165681893.5286.18.camel@Wind> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> <880dece00612090823q270cfe4foee75acea53668fe0@mail.gmail.com> <1165681893.5286.18.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <880dece00612090901w4192692v2307e45784a18e17@mail.gmail.com> On 09/12/06, Gerry Visel wrote: > I already have that set to home page, and don't have Tab Mix add-on, > yet still get the recovery behavior in FF 2.0. I'm running a gnome > session in Kubuntu Edgy. > > Gerry Does it go to the same page each time, or to the last page that you were on? And, are you _sure_ that is not your homepage? How many tabs open? You might want to ask here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html http://simplesniff.com From philrendell at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 17:37:54 2006 From: philrendell at gmail.com (Phil Rendell) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 17:37:54 +0000 Subject: firefox In-Reply-To: <880dece00612090901w4192692v2307e45784a18e17@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165662512.5072.17.camel@localhost> <880dece00612090337ged862a5qdafc2421c31c8747@mail.gmail.com> <1165680415.5286.15.camel@Wind> <880dece00612090823q270cfe4foee75acea53668fe0@mail.gmail.com> <1165681893.5286.18.camel@Wind> <880dece00612090901w4192692v2307e45784a18e17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <888938120612090937g2160cf39m923ff56e2558a536@mail.gmail.com> Gerry, You could try disabling session restore altogether by setting browser.sessionstore.enabled to false. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Session_Restore for more details. Phil On 09/12/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 09/12/06, Gerry Visel wrote: > > I already have that set to home page, and don't have Tab Mix add-on, > > yet still get the recovery behavior in FF 2.0. I'm running a gnome > > session in Kubuntu Edgy. > > > > Gerry > > Does it go to the same page each time, or to the last page that you > were on? And, are you _sure_ that is not your homepage? How many tabs > open? > > You might want to ask here: > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38 > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html > http://simplesniff.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From jdangler at atlantic.net Sat Dec 9 17:47:16 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:47:16 -0500 Subject: wireless settings Message-ID: <1165686436.5382.5.camel@localhost> I have a laptop running 6.06 LTS with ipw2100 wireless I also have an XP box with a USB54G adapter. Both are connecting to a WVS440N router. I got the XP box to see and connect to the router. The ubuntu laptop sees the wireless network, and indicates that it has a strong signal connection, but cannot access the ip of the router. Can someone here give me some clues as to the settings to use to get this working? tia John The router address is 192.168.2.1 eth1 config - network name - home_test key type: hex WEP key: xxxxxxxx Config: static IP IP: 192.168.2.38 Subnet: 255.255.255.0 Gateway: 192.168.2.1 From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org Sat Dec 9 19:21:49 2006 From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:21:49 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? Message-ID: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) I read Matt Galvins blogg today (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was positively surprised. Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 -- Magnus Runesson Linuxalert From ubuntu.stereo at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 19:25:57 2006 From: ubuntu.stereo at gmail.com (Stereotypical Rage) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:25:57 -0500 Subject: OT Using Internet Sharing on a Wireless PC In-Reply-To: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> References: <1165438945.5322.72.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <457B0DC5.20709@gmail.com> Wade, if your friend has a 60 GB (Premium version) of the PS3, it already has WiFi built into it. So as long as you have some sort of a wireless router, which I believe you do, you should be fine. From peter at stoddard.us Sat Dec 9 19:44:10 2006 From: peter at stoddard.us (Peter Stoddard) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:44:10 -0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Magnus Runesson wrote: > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on > it. > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > I read Matt Galvins blogg today > (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > positively surprised. > > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? I own a MacBook, and use it every day. I recommend it. I recommend MacOSX too, which will come pre-installed on your MacBook. Pete -- Peter Stoddard -- GPG Key 4A1F5DA0 From troywill1 at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 20:00:02 2006 From: troywill1 at gmail.com (Troy Williams) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:00:02 -0600 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <457b15bb.597e60a7.4a27.fffffadf@mx.google.com> At 01:21 PM 12/9/2006, you wrote: >am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. >One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. >(http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > >I read Matt Galvins blogg today >(http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was >positively surprised. > >Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > >The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. >One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 >http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 I own a MacBook Pro and it is a wonderful machine. You would not be crazy. ---------- Troy Williams From nigelenki at comcast.net Sat Dec 9 20:10:42 2006 From: nigelenki at comcast.net (John Richard Moser) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:10:42 -0500 Subject: NX bit broken on 32-bit Message-ID: <457B1842.3050301@comcast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It seems the NX bit doesn't work on 32-bit Ubuntu, as per bug #75157 https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/75157 Apparently, the requirement for this is PAE; which in turn means 64G high memory support. On newer 32-bit and 64-bit systems, the NX bit presents a way to properly enforce non-executable memory. This allows the stack, heap, program and library data, and anonymous mappings to be non-executable, even in 32-bit mode. Doing this helps keep memory in a safe state and prevent the exploitation of security vulnerabilites triggered by buffer overflows and double-free()s. Apparently, Ubuntu hasn't had this for quite a while. I tested as far back as Dapper; no such luck. Bugs #49192 and #49283 specifically fix non-executable stacks to enhance security; apparently these fixes are wholly ineffective at this time. In order to take advantage of the security improvements offered by the NX bit in modern computers, the x86 generic kernel needs to have PAE enabled. Without this, users are being left more open to attacks from unpatched vulnerabilities. - -- We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their cattle! -- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRXsYQAs1xW0HCTEFAQKMmQ/+NV5D/zAmq1pJQkcu6QD5ozuaG06hNt8m 10WKBS72eLTOfUpWAf2gVNykZcmzfjniXAjqAnZHYd73U/oSZb6IVbP7k5RNpJ1O X85lHeqwlfh3ZEUkxTxaTLEOMcbhms8kzr3tC75XkDQsc53f+y3lvWriJD5HVkE+ 3Xdx3q/SXdJcxINaFtCaT/KtKigecENSW5fcgWSFrc2dPof45uR0MAM1EXcnhDcg ouXPt4Y2PMUOtdfRQFQFlDhHHub1Dfd/K4ZusexJR1U7xybOgXkYvYZlYh5gYK85 pmu+T0Zzk5YYersL+QI8BVlBlajeldBL5Cu/r/z3iUAvtcPlCBLoEEnqyaqO84SP R9uWwXLDqXHLzJrdOfSFHsONItSCmEdyXkKkT3D95phhwFbughxPPuRdDXINR8xq 3X6LjWZP9LvSPeW0s6Us9Dd3g9Tgdd1Wpr67MMngOFd4C/yZGKWdKo/kYGIbU+7m +Ya6vzfruAes0wH+hlnZ37y/DENT8ZM3hWEFg0303pBPW/WAW3Jd4L1u/WzBSzWA BoOvGN6waBVA1XldnrVT1VSt4DaNYM95pcufvNG0g6zTMk6qPdavRazQJlbXRzDt d/IwD9wAdTLglyUBW2hXDwum8Ntzh5o/DXZ7ad47yCBM2NaVUIZkTD/crymyNDLO w4rYts+cMuI= =LrXM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 20:12:22 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:12:22 +0100 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> Richard schrieb: > when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, > is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application > needed at the time of install, > for the app, when using remove completely. > > also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in > the lib or bin, > folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the > system, > other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being > used by nothing. > > is there a command to clean out left overs? > > Thanks - > Rich > > > Not to forget the apt-get autoclear to remove outdated packages or packages which were installed in order to fullfill dependencies and are no longer needed.... From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 20:17:33 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:17:33 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <457B19DD.3070100@gmx.de> Magnus Runesson schrieb: > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > I read Matt Galvins blogg today > (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > positively surprised. > > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > > The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. > One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 > > I guess we all agree that MacBooks are quite powerfull but you pay mainly for "the package" of OS, Design and Hardware. You could probably get a more compatible or even more powerfull Notebook to a much lower price. Still, there is a certain coolness factor, that comes with apple-products ;-) From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 20:23:14 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:23:14 +0100 Subject: wireless settings In-Reply-To: <1165686436.5382.5.camel@localhost> References: <1165686436.5382.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457B1B32.6000508@gmx.de> John Dangler schrieb: > I have a laptop running 6.06 LTS with ipw2100 wireless > > I also have an XP box with a USB54G adapter. > > Both are connecting to a WVS440N router. > > I got the XP box to see and connect to the router. > > The ubuntu laptop sees the wireless network, and indicates that it has a > strong signal connection, but cannot access the ip of the router. > > Can someone here give me some clues as to the settings to use to get > this working? > > tia > > John > > The router address is 192.168.2.1 > > eth1 config - > network name - home_test > key type: hex > WEP key: xxxxxxxx > > Config: static IP > IP: 192.168.2.38 > Subnet: 255.255.255.0 > Gateway: 192.168.2.1 > > > Could you mail us your wireless settings? You might want to use iwconfig to show/change your settings on the commandline. From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 20:38:06 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:38:06 +0100 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> Message-ID: <457B1EAE.3050000@gmail.com> That'd be 'apt-get autoclean'. :) Also, 'apt-get remove --purge ' can be used to get rid of all configurations for the package. Gregor Tudan wrote: > Richard schrieb: > >> when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, >> is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application >> needed at the time of install, >> for the app, when using remove completely. >> >> also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in >> the lib or bin, >> folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the >> system, >> other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being >> used by nothing. >> >> is there a command to clean out left overs? >> >> Thanks - >> Rich >> >> >> >> > > Not to forget the apt-get autoclear to remove outdated packages or > packages which were installed in order to fullfill dependencies and are > no longer needed.... > > From derkpeter at hotmail.com Sat Dec 9 20:39:57 2006 From: derkpeter at hotmail.com (derk jansen) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:39:57 +0000 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I�m not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine about the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. >From: Peter Stoddard >Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" > >Subject: Re: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? >Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:44:10 -0800 > > >On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Magnus Runesson wrote: > > > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on > > it. > > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > > > I read Matt Galvins blogg today > > (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > > positively surprised. > > > > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > >I own a MacBook, and use it every day. I recommend it. I recommend >MacOSX too, which will come pre-installed on your MacBook. > >Pete >-- >Peter Stoddard -- GPG Key 4A1F5DA0 > > > > >-- >ubuntu-users mailing list >ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new Windows Live Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From rhamburg at drone.nl Sat Dec 9 20:48:44 2006 From: rhamburg at drone.nl (Robbert Hamburg) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:48:44 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Is_it_crazy_to_buy_a_MacBook=3F?= Message-ID: <20061209214844.6eec9565@weasel.xs4all.nl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Williams [mailto:troywill1 at gmail.com] To: Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions [mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com] Subject: Re: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? > At 01:21 PM 12/9/2006, you wrote: > >am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > >One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > >(http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > > >I read Matt Galvins blogg today > >(http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > >positively surprised. > > > >Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > > > >The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. > >One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 > >http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 > > > I own a MacBook Pro and it is a wonderful machine. You would not be crazy. Could not agree more :-) it is a sexy mean machine ! From moranar at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 20:50:21 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 21:50:21 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/9/06, derk jansen wrote: > I'm not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine about > the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. According to Apple, their MacBooks start at $1099 (US dollars). You mean that $300 laptops are comparable to those? My dad will be a bit upset, since I just bought him a Toshiba Satellite for 720€ (euros, just in case it comes out garbled). Teacher discounts don't get into this discussion, unless you can offer them to us for free (I suppose I could also answer "I'm sure some Apple executives and PR people give away MacBooks for free if you happen to be the right person", but that's irrelevant too). I wouldn't buy a MacBook and then delete Mac OS X off of it, I'd use it and learn from it. So I don't think it's very wise to do what the OP talks about. But yes, the Apples are very nice machines. Saludos -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From a-bracmike at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 9 21:06:09 2006 From: a-bracmike at sbcglobal.net (mike williams) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:06:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: running guild wars in wine Message-ID: <20061209210609.95196.qmail@web83207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I know for a fact my video card is supported, because it works on windows(which once i get this game working on dapper,im getting rid of) and yet when i try to run it under wine,it tells me i have an unsupported video card(im using an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series). anyone got any ideas how i can fix this problem? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> > From: Magnus Runesson > Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be compiled & run on OS X? 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URL: From gcvisel at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 21:18:19 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:18:19 -0600 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1165699099.5286.24.camel@Wind> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 21:12 +0100, Gregor Tudan wrote: > Richard schrieb: > > when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, > > is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application > > needed at the time of install, > > for the app, when using remove completely. > > > > also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in > > the lib or bin, > > folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the > > system, > > other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being > > used by nothing. > > > > is there a command to clean out left overs? > > > > Thanks - > > Rich > > > > > > > > Not to forget the apt-get autoclear to remove outdated packages or > packages which were installed in order to fullfill dependencies and are > no longer needed.... > How about apt-get autoclean? (autoclear didn't work.) Gerry From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 21:58:59 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:58:59 +0100 Subject: running guild wars in wine In-Reply-To: <20061209210609.95196.qmail@web83207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061209210609.95196.qmail@web83207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <457B31A3.10009@gmx.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jared.buck at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 22:00:45 2006 From: jared.buck at gmail.com (Jared Buck) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:00:45 -0800 Subject: running guild wars in wine In-Reply-To: <20061209211704.87704.qmail@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061209211704.87704.qmail@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For playing a lot of games on Linux you should try Cedega. Yeah, you gotta pay for it obviously but paying a small fee to play most of your windows games on Linux is a small price to pay. Jared On 12/9/06, mike williams wrote: > > actually, i need to add to this, i can hit yes,continue and it will go to > the login screen,but i get an extremly horrible framerate lag to the point > where i can type my SN and PW in before the 1st letter of my SN even > appears. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike williams > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2006 4:06:09 PM > Subject: running guild wars in wine > > > I know for a fact my video card is supported, because it works on > windows(which once i get this game working on dapper,im getting rid of) and > yet when i try to run it under wine,it tells me i have an unsupported video > card(im using an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series). anyone got any ideas how i > can fix this problem? > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From mgalvin at ubuntu.com Sat Dec 9 22:30:13 2006 From: mgalvin at ubuntu.com (Matt Galvin) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 17:30:13 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 12/9/06, Magnus Runesson wrote: > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? Hi Magnus, No you would not be crazy at all, it's a great idea. They are incredibly sweet machines, very light, and very feature full. They are probably in most cases less expensive then "comparably equipped" PC machines. You can now run only Ubuntu on it easily which is really sweet although I do normally dual boot since I do require Mac OS X and I do really like OS X as well. I largely did the install solo as proof of concept but I will probably go back to dual booting at some point because I like both OSes and like to be able to use them both. I for sure as hell ain't putting windows on it though (although you can) ;) At any rate... I can certainly recommend getting a MacBook [Pro]. They are *really* *really* sweet machines and I can almost guarantee you would not be disappointed. Hope this helps. Later, Matt -- Matt Galvin mgalvin at ubuntu.com http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/ From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org Sat Dec 9 22:36:27 2006 From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:36:27 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> References: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1165703787.5049.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 16:16 -0500, bradhamilton wrote: > > From: Magnus Runesson > > Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? > > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? > Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be > compiled & run on OS X? > [...] Quite simple answer, but maybe not so rational. I love Linux, Gnome and Ubuntu. But if I decide to buy a Mac I will probably at least play around with OS X too. /Magnus -- Magnus Runesson Linuxalert From davidbteague at verizon.net Sat Dec 9 22:49:51 2006 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:49:51 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <457B3D8F.8050600@verizon.net> Magnus Runesson wrote: > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > I read Matt Galvins blogg today > (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > positively surprised. > > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > > The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. > One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 > > Apple is a religion, and in that religion, I am an atheist. (I recognize I may be "cutting my nose off to spite my face" as my mother used to call it. I hate Apple Computer. ) I spent $3000 in 1981 dollars for an Apple II+. They came out with the IIe in 1982. Had I bought the IIe, I could have continued to use of about 1/3 of the hardware (Disk II floppy drives and monitor) and they added salt to the wound by making ALL software they released after the IIe run ONLY on the IIe and IIc. I found a 3rd party 80 column video board and upper/lower case keyboard. I went out of my way to find hacks for the software to use it on my II+ and I have not bought anything from Apple since. Of course that is the industry standard for doing things now, but at the time I literally impoverished myself to get that machine, and I was and am offended. Apple charges too much for a machine that is over rated and over priced. That said, there are programs that run only on the Macintosh that are not available for other platforms, and they do things that some folk need. Is it still hell to send files from Word for Mac to Word for PC? I have had a lot of trouble with a coauthor due to that situaion. David Teague From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 22:59:54 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:59:54 +0100 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: <1165699099.5286.24.camel@Wind> References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <457B18A6.3070203@gmx.de> <1165699099.5286.24.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <457B3FEA.3060103@gmx.de> Gerry Visel schrieb: > On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 21:12 +0100, Gregor Tudan wrote: > >> Richard schrieb: >> >>> when using synaptic to install apps, to try them out, then remove them, >>> is synaptic also removing the libs & other files, that the application >>> needed at the time of install, >>> for the app, when using remove completely. >>> >>> also, how can one check to see, if there are any libs (left overs) in >>> the lib or bin, >>> folder (I think) that are NOT really needed by ANY application, OR the >>> system, >>> other words, parts of application, that are sitting there and not being >>> used by nothing. >>> >>> is there a command to clean out left overs? >>> >>> Thanks - >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Not to forget the apt-get autoclear to remove outdated packages or >> packages which were installed in order to fullfill dependencies and are >> no longer needed.... >> >> > How about apt-get autoclean? (autoclear didn't work.) > > Gerry > > > > Ooops, I'm sorry, your right :-> Shame on me.... From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sat Dec 9 23:04:32 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:04:32 +0100 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file In-Reply-To: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <457B4100.90800@gmx.de> Chanchao schrieb: > A week or two ago I had major instability problems, lock-ups and so on. > Turned out that Edgy somehow lost it's swap file. > > I then reinstalled everything from scratch. > > Now I have the same thing again it seems. I just got another lock-up, > and upon rebooting and checking System Monitor it shows me Used Swap: '0 > bytes out of 0 bytes'. > > I'm VERY positive that it had swap upon reinstallation, because I > checked! > > So how does this get lost? And more urgently, how to I tell it to go > use the swap partition? > > Cheers, > Chanchao > > > Hmm, funny, I experienced the same issue but thought it had something to do with me messing with the partition table. I used "mkswap [/dev/hd*]" to recreate the filesystem. Afterwards you need to mount it using "swapon [/dev/hd*]". I didn't have any trouble since.... From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Dec 9 23:28:06 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:28:06 +0000 Subject: Major Bug? Edgy 'losing' swap file In-Reply-To: <457B4100.90800@gmx.de> References: <1165568863.4942.3.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <457B4100.90800@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1165706886.16376.0.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 00:04 +0100, Gregor Tudan wrote: > Hmm, funny, I experienced the same issue but thought it had something to > do with me messing with the partition table. I used "mkswap [/dev/hd*]" > to recreate the filesystem. Afterwards you need to mount it using > "swapon [/dev/hd*]". > That would cause it because when you recreated the filesysyem it got a new UUID.. > I didn't have any trouble since.... > From glgxg at mfire.com Sun Dec 10 00:16:47 2006 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:16:47 -0800 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> Message-ID: norman wrote: > For more than a year I have used Gimp with Turboprint to produce my > photographic prints without a border. Now, for some reason, I am no > longer able to do this. I recently set up a new box with Ubuntu 6.06.1 > and since then all my attempts to produce a print without a border have > resulted in top and sides no border but a white border at the bottom. I > have carried out various tests to try to identify the cause of the > problem and the results point very strongly at Gimp. For example, > printing from a terminal via Turboprint only, resulted in a perfect > print. > > The current version of Gimp is 2.2.11 as is the version on my old box. > However, a noticeable change has taken place in the window in which the > print settings are made. For example, on the old box I could set my > paper at 5 x 7 borderless but now no borderless paper sizes are listed, > instead there is a button marked borderless. On the old box the image to > be printed fitted neatly into the paper outline in the preview panel. On > my new box, the same image overhangs the paper outline with the overhang > being most obvious at the bottom. > > Is there anyone who can throw some light on what I can do to produce the > borderless prints I want? I still have my old box so I can carry out > comparative tests if any are suggested. Perhaps there is a way in which > I can find the version of Gimp that I used to use and load it to replace > the Gimp I have. If so, I would be grateful if I could be told what to > do. > > I apologise for this long post but I wanted to show that I have tried to > solve the problem before coming to the list. > > Norman > > Try: File|Print|Setup Printer| Make sure that the Printer PPD has the right path for your printer. Mine is a Canon MP-750 and the path is: /usr/share/turboprint/ppd/Canon_PIXMA_MP750.ppd Make sure the Standard Command box has your actual printer in the Printer Queue box. Click OK and you should now see the settings & paper types for your printer. You can also modify the border settings manually. Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Turboprint + Canon Pixma MP750 From garryknight at gmx.net Sun Dec 10 00:39:56 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:39:56 +0000 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <87irglqn1r.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: Florian Diesch wrote: > With synaptic you can define a filter for "orphaned" packages Oh, that's really useful. Thanks. And it would also be useful if the packages could be listed by repository. For those occasions when I can't remember what a package is called, but I do remember where it came from. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From stude.list at googlemail.com Sun Dec 10 00:50:04 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:50:04 +0000 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <87irglqn1r.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <219482c0612091650o3ed898fdk2b3f017fbba097de@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/06, Garry Knight wrote: > And it would also be useful if the packages could be listed by repository. > For those occasions when I can't remember what a package is called, but I > do remember where it came from. I setup Synaptic to do that. Just go into filers and click add, on the first tab select every box, then on the second tab change it to 'include selected sections only', then just select the sections for that repository, not that difficult seems Multiverse is listed as: Multiverse/Section, likewise for Universe and Restricted. Not sure how to do this if you have 3rd party repositories installed, but that's apparently a bad idea. _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 01:07:36 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 19:07:36 -0600 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457B3D8F.8050600@verizon.net> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457B3D8F.8050600@verizon.net> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612091707o55d6511dsb74dd215b8c00ae5@mail.gmail.com> On 12/9/06, David B Teague wrote: > > Apple is a religion, and in that religion, I am an atheist. (I > recognize I may be "cutting my nose off to spite my face" as my mother > used to call it. I hate Apple Computer. ) > > I spent $3000 in 1981 dollars for an Apple II+. They came out with the > IIe in 1982. Had I bought the IIe, I could have continued to use of > about 1/3 of the hardware (Disk II floppy drives and monitor) and they > added salt to the wound by making ALL software they released after the > IIe run ONLY on the IIe and IIc. I found a 3rd party 80 column video > board and upper/lower case keyboard. I went out of my way to find hacks > for the software to use it on my II+ and I have not bought anything > from Apple since. So let me see if I understand... You're upset about the transition from one machine to another in an antiquated and long discontinued line 25 years ago when there was *no* organisation or any such thing as "standards" in the personal computing world? Hold many grudges? -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 01:15:02 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:15:02 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> References: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6f6293f10612091715y21e2424fi5cc41498bc2d79f2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/9/06, bradhamilton wrote: > > From: Magnus Runesson > > Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? > > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? > Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be > compiled & run on OS X? Cause Linux is far more flexible, sexy, nice-looking and powerful :-) From yaocharlesc at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 02:01:53 2006 From: yaocharlesc at gmail.com (Charles Yao) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:01:53 +0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <457B6A91.5040100@gmail.com> Magnus Runesson wrote: > I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu on it. > One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. > (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) > > I read Matt Galvins blogg today > (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was > positively surprised. > > Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? > > The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. > One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 > > Go for it. The Macbook is a great machine, and I think the price is pretty reasonable. From nigelenki at comcast.net Sun Dec 10 02:35:35 2006 From: nigelenki at comcast.net (John Richard Moser) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? Message-ID: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a processor that can clock 100MHz max. - -- We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their cattle! -- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRXtydQs1xW0HCTEFAQLo0g/9FxYHAwuUcVNezFrwDNmmd4fPfGvVGjdH fVU6HFxtjfPJn4F6pctjoWyKIiESb80S29Gkc9zhSpUFZ7v3+Y4/R60NsI6wGK5a O5BrwKsvacHKrNGbrFfNukpnS/HLtaCwfLZscDhjKNBqmyaPWbHM1Gk87cKu5eBk Sxxzo9bp1l2up/hUEgxiVUZqBgeKcxZihPmNAXAdjn4NcfS9tPRqYYsZ8DNlR01M QIUeQmP9f6CjNyRTE/qRfzk1ajB9hqAtH+iGTTUGe1Tu0VoIvdwn1R/e7ggJo2u6 wXOindqQtJQK0Ql7vpGXWshspcGbeUYiKHy0DYzddGzkzXYA4ruzjr+Bw52JZmef /D7KqmmxHCt8qYvoL0v5v/pK//+z3Osi/XJHca8nBa3PeHuJUlJeyVE80rp7ouxy A+KM6cFZVrUhCjhGB4rOWVqJGTwnuH7i0DJ3GIs4voFc+cSTcsjYasmlsIj8LVZj 2/So3q0CRv6BZRmx0vWQnKySThtlKqyd+bYZCYSm3xbeT+MYD5YIWDrEM8xvEkR3 yYBD8zdGNOjGrXvVXUhdPGBC1N3GobtTjUzvsm+QpUFEn+OGxNywFwA8b62eGT21 4rn73PEMfdsBn4TOnoL32YoI6q5pH1ypb5pgEkp8cmsxdxQbIDQjoeWQhxQ7sbMg mAL4PoVwAZg= =AzKj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Sun Dec 10 04:58:29 2006 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:58:29 -0500 Subject: Setting up HTTPS w/subdomain on Apache2 Message-ID: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on reading through Apache documentation, but the going is slow, so if anybody would like to kickstart me or give pointers that would be fabulous. I'm trying to set up the following: https://subdomain.host.com/, which points to a directory on the same physical machine (/var/www/subdomain say), with the following characteristics: Secure authentication Secure data transfer So far I've learned about Basic Authentication, but it said that the password is transmitted in plaintext. Then there was Digest, but the data is still unencrypted. The docs recommended using SSL, and unless I'm mistaken, HTTP w/SSL = HTTPS. So, I'm hoping to make this particular directory accessible only with supplying a valid username and password, and have both the password and the data returned travel the connection in encrypted form. The virtual subdomain is a wishlist item primarily. Note: this ONLY needs to apply to a particular directory; I want the rest of the site accessible normally with unauthenticated http. Any tips? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFe5P16iO+5ByUi/QRAloFAJ9N5eEB/7QUXQJxMJ8sQqgeCHtULwCeJSZM lq+U/A7umfCEua+rbV7p1V8= =Sry/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From adconrad at ubuntu.com Sun Dec 10 05:21:28 2006 From: adconrad at ubuntu.com (Adam Conrad) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:21:28 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <457B9958.10407@ubuntu.com> John Richard Moser wrote: > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) I am. On several around the world. > I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a processor > that can clock 100MHz max. Mine are all 133Mhz, for the record, and these are CPUs that are not only still produced and sold, they're also quite common. While I would prefer to see us producing some ports for embedded targets, and AMD Elan (AKA 5x86, AKA "really fast 486") would be one of them, we're not currently doing so, and I'd prefer we don't drop support for those systems "just cause". ... Adam From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sun Dec 10 05:47:12 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 23:47:12 -0600 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning In-Reply-To: References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <87irglqn1r.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <20061209234712.2049350d@WizardsTower> Garry Knight said: [...] > > And it would also be useful if the packages could be listed by > repository. For those occasions when I can't remember what a package > is called, but I do remember where it came from. > ?? Here Synaptic shows: Package Section Installed Version Latest Version Size Description Doesn't the 'Section' part show the repository? Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From dontodd at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 06:01:55 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:01:55 -0500 Subject: Setting up HTTPS w/subdomain on Apache2 In-Reply-To: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> References: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612092201x6a2753a2n356cf7e2e0d92ff9@mail.gmail.com> On 12/9/06, Anthony Yarusso wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm working on reading through Apache documentation, but the going is > slow, so if anybody would like to kickstart me or give pointers that > would be fabulous. > > I'm trying to set up the following: > https://subdomain.host.com/, which points to a directory on the same > physical machine (/var/www/subdomain say), with the following > characteristics: > > Secure authentication > Secure data transfer > > So far I've learned about Basic Authentication, but it said that the > password is transmitted in plaintext. Then there was Digest, but the > data is still unencrypted. The docs recommended using SSL, and unless > I'm mistaken, HTTP w/SSL = HTTPS. So, I'm hoping to make this > particular directory accessible only with supplying a valid username > and password, and have both the password and the data returned travel > the connection in encrypted form. The virtual subdomain is a wishlist > item primarily. > > Note: this ONLY needs to apply to a particular directory; I want the > rest of the site accessible normally with unauthenticated http. > > Any tips? I think you could use mod_rewrite to redirect non-https requests to https for the subdomain. I'm not sure what your question is, though, whether it's about how to set up https in general, or force all traffic to use https? Todd From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Sun Dec 10 06:32:27 2006 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:32:27 -0500 Subject: Setting up HTTPS w/subdomain on Apache2 In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612092201x6a2753a2n356cf7e2e0d92ff9@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> <9421dc6f0612092201x6a2753a2n356cf7e2e0d92ff9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457BA9FB.8040202@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Todd Slater wrote: > On 12/9/06, Anthony Yarusso wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'm working on reading through Apache documentation, but the going is >> slow, so if anybody would like to kickstart me or give pointers that >> would be fabulous. >> >> I'm trying to set up the following: >> https://subdomain.host.com/, which points to a directory on the same >> physical machine (/var/www/subdomain say), with the following >> characteristics: >> >> Secure authentication >> Secure data transfer >> >> So far I've learned about Basic Authentication, but it said that the >> password is transmitted in plaintext. Then there was Digest, but the >> data is still unencrypted. The docs recommended using SSL, and unless >> I'm mistaken, HTTP w/SSL = HTTPS. So, I'm hoping to make this >> particular directory accessible only with supplying a valid username >> and password, and have both the password and the data returned travel >> the connection in encrypted form. The virtual subdomain is a wishlist >> item primarily. >> >> Note: this ONLY needs to apply to a particular directory; I want the >> rest of the site accessible normally with unauthenticated http. >> >> Any tips? > > I think you could use mod_rewrite to redirect non-https requests to > https for the subdomain. I'm not sure what your question is, though, > whether it's about how to set up https in general, or force all > traffic to use https? > > Todd > Both probably. First, setting up https in general. For the second, it would be convenient if http://sub.domain.com/ redirected as https://sub.domain.com/, but I don't mean ALL traffic, only for a particular folder, which I want to specify as a subdomain rather than http://domain.com/sub. Am I making sense? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFe6n66iO+5ByUi/QRAu1VAJ9DN3hEviiVYdm7uSi8XQlbJLTrkgCgpIyK Eo+uh36HtmV70ociS8IIklc= =vOUL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richard at sheflug.org.uk Fri Dec 1 17:42:47 2006 From: richard at sheflug.org.uk (Richard Ibbotson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:42:47 +0000 Subject: Upgrade form Dapper to Edgy Eft In-Reply-To: <878xhsfkal.fsf@spamfence.net> References: <878xhsfkal.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <200612011742.50500.richard@sheflug.org.uk> Florian > I had a similar problem and AFAIR I solved it by deinstalling the > conflicting package (iglooftp for you) using dpkg (not apt*): > dpkg -r iglooftp > and reinstalling it after the upgrade Yes.. managed to do that. I've even managed to get Nvidia Riva TNT2 driver working for 3D acceleration. No sign of any documentation anywhere that you need to use the legacy drivers to make it work. Took me two days to work it out myself. Most things are working now. I wait for the hoped for avalanche of updates to arrive. -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk From kabads at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 11:15:25 2006 From: kabads at gmail.com (Adam Cripps) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:15:25 +0000 Subject: Lost some sound - edgy In-Reply-To: <4569CCFF.7050504@fungus.sh.nu> References: <4569CCFF.7050504@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: On 11/26/06, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > > Adam Cripps wrote: > > I've recently updated my edgy machine and it's lost some sound. One > > application (csmash - a table tennis game) still plays sound, but > > others don't (like reaplayer and unreal tournament). Could it be that > > csmash uses midi? > > Please see > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11 > > Thanks, Daniel, This problem is intermittent. I've booted this machine and sounds works fine, and I've just booted again and it is back to the original problem. Your suggested URL makes a very verbose email, but if it helps, here goes: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat: 0: Realtek ALC655 rev 0 1: TriTech TR28602 amixer: Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone LFE',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Front Left: Playback 54 [54%] Front Right: Playback 54 [54%] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Center',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Tone',0 Capabilities: pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Mono: Front Left: Playback [off] Front Right: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Bass',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Front Left: 34 [85%] Front Right: 34 [85%] Simple mixer control 'Treble',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Front Left: 29 [72%] Front Right: 29 [72%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Capture 80 [80%] [off] Front Right: Capture 80 [80%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'Synth',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] [off] Front Right: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Wave',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] [off] Front Right: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Wave Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Line LiveDrive',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Line2 LiveDrive',1 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Front Left: Capture [on] Front Right: Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Mic1' 'Mic2' Item0: 'Mic1' Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Coaxial',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 LiveDrive',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Optical Raw',0 Capabilities: pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Mono: Front Left: Playback [off] Front Right: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 TTL',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 15 Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [on] Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'AC97',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] Front Right: Playback 80 [80%] Capture 80 [80%] Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] lspci -nv: 00:00.0 0500: 10de:02f1 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: 00:00.1 0500: 10de:02fa (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.2 0500: 10de:02fe (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.3 0500: 10de:02f8 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.4 0500: 10de:02f9 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 00:00.5 0500: 10de:02ff (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: 00:00.6 0500: 10de:027f (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.7 0500: 10de:027e (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:02.0 0604: 10de:02fc (rev a1) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000afff Memory behind bridge: fd700000-fd7fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fde00000-00000000fde00000 Capabilities: 00:03.0 0604: 10de:02fd (rev a1) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 00009000-00009fff Memory behind bridge: fdd00000-fddfffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fdc00000-00000000fdc00000 Capabilities: 00:04.0 0604: 10de:02fb (rev a1) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff Memory behind bridge: fd900000-fd9fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fd800000-00000000fd800000 Capabilities: 00:05.0 0300: 10de:0242 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 50 Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at 50000000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: 00:09.0 0500: 10de:0270 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: 00:0a.0 0601: 10de:0261 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 00:0a.1 0c05: 10de:0264 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 1c00 [size=64] I/O ports at 1c40 [size=64] Capabilities: 00:0a.2 0500: 10de:0272 (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:0b.0 0c03: 10de:026d (rev a2) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 225 Memory at fe02f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 00:0b.1 0c03: 10de:026e (rev a2) (prog-if 20) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 233 Memory at fe02e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: 00:0d.0 0101: 10de:0265 (rev a1) (prog-if 8a) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 I/O ports at f400 [size=16] Capabilities: 00:0e.0 0101: 10de:0266 (rev a1) (prog-if 85) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 209 I/O ports at 09f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 0bf0 [size=4] I/O ports at 0970 [size=8] I/O ports at 0b70 [size=4] I/O ports at e000 [size=16] Memory at fe02d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 00:10.0 0604: 10de:026f (rev a2) (prog-if 01) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff Memory behind bridge: fdb00000-fdbfffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fda00000-fdafffff Capabilities: 00:10.2 0401: 10de:026b (rev a2) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 209 I/O ports at dc00 [size=256] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Memory at fe02c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 00:14.0 0680: 10de:0269 (rev a1) Subsystem: 105b:0caf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 217 Memory at fe02b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at d400 [size=8] Capabilities: 00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100 Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: 00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101 Flags: fast devsel 00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102 Flags: fast devsel 00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103 Flags: fast devsel 04:08.0 0401: 1102:0002 (rev 05) Subsystem: 1102:0020 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 58 I/O ports at cc00 [size=32] Capabilities: 04:08.1 0980: 1102:7002 (rev 05) Subsystem: 1102:0020 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 I/O ports at c800 [size=8] Capabilities: asoundconf list: Names of available sound cards: ICH Live cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*: cat: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory # ALSA library configuration file # Include settings that are under the control of asoundconf(1). # (To disable these settings, comment out this line.) # ALSA library configuration file managed by asoundconf(1). # # MANUAL CHANGES TO THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN! # # Manual changes to the ALSA library configuration should be implemented # by editing the ~/.asoundrc file, not by editing this file. !defaults.pcm.card Live defaults.ctl.card Live defaults.pcm.device 0 defaults.pcm.subdevice -1 dmesg [17179569.184000] Linux version 2.6.17-10-386 (root at vernadsky) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)) #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 (Ubuntu 2.6.17-10.33-386) [17179569.184000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003bef0000 (usable) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000003bef0000 - 000000003bef3000 (ACPI NVS) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000003bef3000 - 000000003bf00000 (ACPI data) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 000000003c000000 - 0000000040000000 (reserved) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 00000000e0000000 - 00000000f0000000 (reserved) [17179569.184000] BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) [17179569.184000] 62MB HIGHMEM available. [17179569.184000] 896MB LOWMEM available. [17179569.184000] found SMP MP-table at 000f3ab0 [17179569.184000] On node 0 totalpages: 245488 [17179569.184000] DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0 [17179569.184000] Normal zone: 225280 pages, LIFO batch:31 [17179569.184000] HighMem zone: 16112 pages, LIFO batch:3 [17179569.184000] DMI 2.2 present. [17179569.184000] ACPI: RSDP (v000 Nvidia ) @ 0x000f7c00 [17179569.184000] ACPI: RSDT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x3bef3040 [17179569.184000] ACPI: FADT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x3bef30c0 [17179569.184000] ACPI: SSDT (v001 PTLTD POWERNOW 0x00000001 LTP 0x00000001) @ 0x3bef9680 [17179569.184000] ACPI: SRAT (v001 AMD HAMMER 0x00000001 AMD 0x00000001) @ 0x3bef97c0 [17179569.184000] ACPI: MCFG (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x3bef98c0 [17179569.184000] ACPI: MADT (v001 Nvidia AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x3bef95c0 [17179569.184000] ACPI: DSDT (v001 NVIDIA AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 [17179569.184000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008 [17179569.184000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000 [17179569.184000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) [17179569.184000] Processor #0 15:15 APIC version 16 [17179569.184000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x01] disabled) [17179569.184000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1]) [17179569.184000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1]) [17179569.184000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0]) [17179569.184000] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23 [17179569.184000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level) [17179569.184000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 14 global_irq 14 high edge) [17179569.184000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 15 global_irq 15 high edge) [17179569.184000] ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. [17179569.184000] ACPI: IRQ14 used by override. [17179569.184000] ACPI: IRQ15 used by override. [17179569.184000] Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs [17179569.184000] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information [17179569.184000] Allocating PCI resources starting at 50000000 (gap: 40000000:a0000000) [17179569.184000] Built 1 zonelists [17179569.184000] Kernel command line: root=UUID=791a0176-a775-4cea-889b-c492136ec474 ro quiet splash [17179569.184000] mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000) [17179569.184000] mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000) [17179569.184000] Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. [17179569.184000] Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. [17179569.184000] Initializing CPU#0 [17179569.184000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes) [17179569.184000] Detected 2210.281 MHz processor. [17179569.184000] Using pmtmr for high-res timesource [17179569.184000] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 [17179571.468000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) [17179571.468000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [17179571.480000] Memory: 962576k/981952k available (1829k kernel code, 18680k reserved, 1038k data, 288k init, 64448k highmem) [17179571.480000] Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. [17179571.560000] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 4426.72 BogoMIPS (lpj=8853446) [17179571.560000] Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized [17179571.560000] SELinux: Disabled at boot. [17179571.560000] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 [17179571.560000] CPU: After generic identify, caps: 078bfbff e3d3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000001 [17179571.560000] CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 078bfbff e3d3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000001 [17179571.560000] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) [17179571.560000] CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line) [17179571.560000] CPU: After all inits, caps: 078bfbff e3d3fbff 00000000 00000410 00000001 00000000 00000001 [17179571.560000] CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ stepping 02 [17179571.560000] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. [17179571.576000] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code [17179571.576000] Freeing SMP alternatives: 0k freed [17179571.576000] checking if image is initramfs... it is [17179572.056000] Freeing initrd memory: 6628k freed [17179572.056000] ACPI: Core revision 20060707 [17179572.060000] ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found! [17179572.064000] ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs [17179572.072000] ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=0 apic2=-1 pin2=-1 [17179572.212000] NET: Registered protocol family 16 [17179572.212000] EISA bus registered [17179572.212000] ACPI: bus type pci registered [17179572.212000] PCI: Using MMCONFIG [17179572.212000] PCI: No mmconfig possible on 0:18 [17179572.212000] Setting up standard PCI resources [17179572.220000] ACPI: Interpreter enabled [17179572.220000] ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing [17179572.220000] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) [17179572.220000] PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) [17179572.224000] Boot video device is 0000:00:05.0 [17179572.224000] PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:0d.0 [17179572.224000] PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:10.0 [17179572.224000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] [17179572.332000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB0._PRT] [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK2] (IRQs *5 7 9 10 11 14 15) [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK4] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK5] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK6] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK7] (IRQs 5 7 9 *10 11 14 15) [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK8] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBA] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11 14 15) [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBB] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] (IRQs 5 7 9 *10 11 14 15) [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LACI] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11 14 15) [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.336000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LPMU] (IRQs *5 7 9 10 11 14 15) [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSMB] (IRQs 5 7 9 *10 11 14 15) [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUB2] (IRQs *5 7 9 10 11 14 15) [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LIDE] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSID] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11 14 15) [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LFID] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] (IRQs 16) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] (IRQs 17) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] (IRQs 18) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] (IRQs 19) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC5] (IRQs 16) *0, disabled. [17179572.340000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC6] (IRQs 16) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC7] (IRQs 16) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC8] (IRQs 16) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APMU] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AAZA] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCK] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCS] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.344000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.348000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCM] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.348000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCZ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.348000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSI] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.348000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSJ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. [17179572.352000] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay [17179572.352000] pnp: PnP ACPI init [17179572.356000] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 15 devices [17179572.356000] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP [17179572.356000] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing [17179572.356000] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1000-0x107f could not be reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1080-0x10ff has been reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1400-0x147f has been reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1480-0x14ff could not be reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1800-0x187f has been reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1880-0x18ff has been reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x2000-0x207f has been reserved [17179572.356000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x2080-0x20ff has been reserved [17179572.356000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:02.0 [17179572.356000] IO window: a000-afff [17179572.356000] MEM window: fd700000-fd7fffff [17179572.356000] PREFETCH window: fde00000-fdefffff [17179572.356000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:03.0 [17179572.356000] IO window: 9000-9fff [17179572.356000] MEM window: fdd00000-fddfffff [17179572.356000] PREFETCH window: fdc00000-fdcfffff [17179572.356000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:04.0 [17179572.356000] IO window: b000-bfff [17179572.356000] MEM window: fd900000-fd9fffff [17179572.356000] PREFETCH window: fd800000-fd8fffff [17179572.356000] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:10.0 [17179572.356000] IO window: c000-cfff [17179572.356000] MEM window: fdb00000-fdbfffff [17179572.356000] PREFETCH window: fda00000-fdafffff [17179572.356000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 [17179572.356000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:03.0 to 64 [17179572.356000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:04.0 to 64 [17179572.356000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:10.0 to 64 [17179572.356000] NET: Registered protocol family 2 [17179572.396000] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) [17179572.396000] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) [17179572.396000] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [17179572.396000] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) [17179572.396000] TCP reno registered [17179572.396000] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [17179572.396000] audit(1165057328.396:1): initialized [17179572.396000] highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages [17179572.396000] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 [17179572.396000] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) [17179572.396000] Initializing Cryptographic API [17179572.396000] io scheduler noop registered [17179572.396000] io scheduler anticipatory registered [17179572.396000] io scheduler deadline registered [17179572.396000] io scheduler cfq registered (default) [17179580.396000] 0000:00:0b.1 EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug ?) 01010001 [17179580.396000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 [17179580.396000] pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fc:10de] has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS [17179580.396000] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:02.0:pcie00] [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:02.0:pcie03] [17179580.396000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:03.0 to 64 [17179580.396000] pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fd:10de] has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS [17179580.396000] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:03.0:pcie00] [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:03.0:pcie03] [17179580.396000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:04.0 to 64 [17179580.396000] pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fb:10de] has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS [17179580.396000] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:04.0:pcie00] [17179580.396000] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:04.0:pcie03] [17179580.396000] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... [17179580.748000] isapnp: No Plug & Play device found [17179580.760000] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled [17179580.760000] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A [17179580.764000] serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A [17179580.764000] 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A [17179580.764000] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [17179580.764000] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 65536K size 1024 blocksize [17179580.764000] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 [17179580.764000] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx [17179580.764000] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12 [17179580.764000] serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 [17179580.764000] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 [17179580.764000] EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0 [17179580.764000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1 [17179580.764000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 2 [17179580.764000] EISA: Detected 0 cards. [17179580.768000] TCP bic registered [17179580.768000] NET: Registered protocol family 1 [17179580.768000] NET: Registered protocol family 8 [17179580.768000] NET: Registered protocol family 20 [17179580.768000] Using IPI Shortcut mode [17179580.768000] ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) [17179580.768000] Freeing unused kernel memory: 288k freed [17179580.844000] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 [17179581.840000] Capability LSM initialized [17179581.864000] ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on) [17179581.864000] ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x1 [17179581.868000] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (40 C) [17179582.180000] SCSI subsystem initialized [17179582.184000] libata version 1.20 loaded. [17179582.184000] sata_nv 0000:00:0e.0: version 0.8 [17179582.184000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSI] enabled at IRQ 23 [17179582.184000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0e.0[A] -> Link [APSI] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 209 [17179582.184000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:0e.0 to 64 [17179582.184000] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9F0 ctl 0xBF2 bmdma 0xE000 irq 209 [17179582.184000] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x970 ctl 0xB72 bmdma 0xE008 irq 209 [17179582.388000] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0) [17179582.388000] scsi0 : sata_nv [17179582.592000] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0) [17179582.592000] scsi1 : sata_nv [17179582.592000] NFORCE-MCP51: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:0d.0 [17179582.592000] NFORCE-MCP51: chipset revision 161 [17179582.592000] NFORCE-MCP51: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later [17179582.592000] NFORCE-MCP51: 0000:00:0d.0 (rev a1) UDMA133 controller [17179582.592000] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf400-0xf407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA [17179582.592000] ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf408-0xf40f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA [17179582.592000] Probing IDE interface ide0... [17179582.880000] hda: WDC WD800BB-55JKC0, ATA DISK drive [17179583.160000] hdb: WDC WD1200BB-00DAA3, ATA DISK drive [17179583.216000] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 [17179583.236000] Probing IDE interface ide1... [17179584.256000] hdd: DVDRW IDE H16X, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179584.312000] ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 [17179584.316000] hda: max request size: 128KiB [17179584.324000] hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) [17179584.324000] hda: cache flushes supported [17179584.324000] hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 > [17179584.368000] hdb: max request size: 512KiB [17179584.368000] hdb: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) [17179584.368000] hdb: cache flushes supported [17179584.368000] hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 hdb9 > [17179584.460000] hdd: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) [17179584.460000] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [17179585.152000] forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.54. [17179585.152000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] enabled at IRQ 22 [17179585.152000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:14.0[A] -> Link [APCH] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 217 [17179585.152000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:14.0 to 64 [17179585.152000] forcedeth: using HIGHDMA [17179585.184000] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs [17179585.188000] usbcore: registered new driver hub [17179585.188000] ohci_hcd: 2005 April 22 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) [17179585.676000] eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 0105b:0caf bound to 0000:00:14.0 [17179585.676000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] enabled at IRQ 21 [17179585.676000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.0[A] -> Link [APCF] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 225 [17179585.676000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:0b.0 to 64 [17179585.676000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller [17179585.676000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 [17179585.676000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: irq 225, io mem 0xfe02f000 [17179585.732000] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [17179585.732000] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found [17179585.732000] hub 1-0:1.0: 8 ports detected [17179585.836000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] enabled at IRQ 20 [17179585.836000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.1[B] -> Link [APCL] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 233 [17179585.836000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:0b.1 to 64 [17179585.836000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: EHCI Host Controller [17179585.836000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 [17179585.836000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: debug port 1 [17179585.836000] PCI: cache line size of 64 is not supported by device 0000:00:0b.1 [17179585.836000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: irq 233, io mem 0xfe02e000 [17179585.836000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0b.1: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 [17179585.836000] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [17179585.836000] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found [17179585.836000] hub 2-0:1.0: 8 ports detected [17179586.008000] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [17179586.008000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. [17179586.180000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: wakeup [17179586.564000] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [17179586.768000] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [17179600.172000] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 [17179600.296000] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 [17179600.944000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones [17179601.240000] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1 [17179601.260000] Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac [17179601.344000] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M [17179601.360000] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 [17179601.368000] input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input2 [17179601.400000] irda_init() [17179601.400000] NET: Registered protocol family 23 [17179601.472000] gameport: EMU10K1 is pci0000:04:08.1/gameport0, io 0xc800, speed 1028kHz [17179601.496000] parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. [17179601.496000] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] [17179601.588000] parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 940C [17179601.864000] ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output [17179602.232000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] enabled at IRQ 23 [17179602.232000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.2[C] -> Link [APCJ] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 209 [17179602.232000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:10.2 to 64 [17179602.552000] intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54774 usecs [17179602.552000] intel8x0: clocking to 46949 [17179602.736000] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [17179602.740000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC7] enabled at IRQ 16 [17179602.740000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:05.0[A] -> Link [APC7] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 50 [17179602.740000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:05.0 to 64 [17179602.740000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-8774 Tue Aug 1 20:54:08 PDT 2006 [17179603.116000] Linux video capture interface: v1.00 [17179603.168000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17 [17179603.168000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:08.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 58 [17179603.304000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Intel Create and Share (SPCA501 ) [17179603.352000] NET: Registered protocol family 17 [17179603.592000] NET: Registered protocol family 10 [17179603.592000] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [17179603.592000] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver [17179604.152000] usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx [17179604.152000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: spca5xx driver 00.57.08 registered [17179604.412000] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). [17179604.480000] Unable to find swap-space signature [17179604.596000] EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal [17179604.860000] md: md driver 0.90.3 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 [17179604.860000] md: bitmap version 4.39 [17179605.108000] device-mapper: 4.6.0-ioctl (2006-02-17) initialised: dm-devel at redhat.com [17179607.476000] Unable to find swap-space signature [17179613.948000] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [17179614.224000] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] [17179614.224000] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] [17179614.296000] ibm_acpi: ec object not found [17179614.320000] pcc_acpi: loading... [17179614.584000] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.60.2) [17179614.584000] powernow-k8: 0 : fid 0xe (2200 MHz), vid 0x6 (1400 mV) [17179614.584000] powernow-k8: 1 : fid 0xc (2000 MHz), vid 0x8 (1350 mV) [17179614.584000] powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0xa (1800 MHz), vid 0xa (1300 mV) [17179614.584000] powernow-k8: 3 : fid 0x2 (1000 MHz), vid 0x12 (1100 mV) [17179614.584000] cpu_init done, current fid 0xe, vid 0x6 [17179618.668000] apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) [17179618.668000] apm: overridden by ACPI. [17179626.356000] Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 okir at monad.swb.de). [17179626.716000] NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery directory [17179626.748000] NFSD: starting 90-second grace period [17179631.620000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8 [17179631.620000] NET: Registered protocol family 31 [17179631.620000] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized [17179631.620000] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [17179631.636000] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8 [17179631.636000] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [17179631.712000] Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.1-mh1 [17179631.768000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [17179631.768000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [17179631.768000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7 [17179649.564000] usb 1-4: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 [17179649.776000] usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [17179649.968000] usbcore: registered new driver hiddev [17179649.976000] input: Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) as /class/input/input3 [17179649.976000] input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-4 [17179649.976000] usbcore: registered new driver usbhid [17179649.980000] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver cat /proc/interrupts: CPU0 0: 180477 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 1985 IO-APIC-edge i8042 7: 1 IO-APIC-edge parport0 8: 3 IO-APIC-edge rtc 9: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi 12: 2321 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 53323 IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6139 IO-APIC-edge ide1 50: 43376 IO-APIC-level nvidia 58: 1536 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 209: 4994 IO-APIC-level libata, Intel ICH 217: 72027 IO-APIC-level eth0 225: 20190 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd:usb1 233: 4 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd:usb2 NMI: 0 LOC: 180324 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 -- http://www.monkeez.org PGP key: 0x7111B833 From paragdabke at yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 13:51:03 2006 From: paragdabke at yahoo.com (Dabke Parag) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 05:51:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ubuntu LiveCD hangs with 2 hard disks Message-ID: <20061204135103.67532.qmail@web90615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I have ubuntu 6.x liveCD. I was able to run this CD on my m/c. Then I installed second hard disk. Thought f installing Ubuntu on 2nd hard disk. After installing second hard disk, system hangs while booting. I can see boot options. When I select run / install Ubuntu, message 'mounting root' is displayed and system hangs. I have HP Pavillion m/c. 1st hard disk is Seagate SATA and 2nd hard disk is Western digital PATA hard disk. Any idea why this is happening and how can this be resolved? Thanks & Regards, Parag ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From mister.gamer at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 01:31:04 2006 From: mister.gamer at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Valerio_Coltr=C3=A8?=) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 02:31:04 +0100 Subject: after dapper->edgy on dell latitude l400: system keeps suspending after 5 secs Message-ID: > > I have Kubuntu Edgy working fine on an L400. It was a new install and not an > upgrade, so I doubt I have much useful advice. Just wanted to let you know > that the hardware does work with Edgy. > > For me, suspend/restore and hibernate/restore worked out of the box. > > Scott K > > I've the suspend every 5 seconds problem with a clean installation of kubuntu 6.10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From delbd at oma.be Tue Dec 5 10:15:44 2006 From: delbd at oma.be (David Delbecq) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:15:44 +0100 Subject: open office documents In-Reply-To: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> References: <457541DE.9040204@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <457546D0.20705@oma.be> According to what i see when i start a new openoffice document and click on 'saveAs', the default location is your home folder. (/home//) Note you can also change this default location. Start openoffice, click on tools -> options, select the openoffice.org -> path entry and edit the 'My Documents' line. MICHAEL WEAVER a écrit : > When I compose documents in Openoffice in Ubuntu, where are they saved > by default? > I ask because I want to keep my files tidyer than on my Windows PC and I > don't want things floating around everywhere which may be a problem for > someone with no Sight. > > From skurapat at ucsc.edu Tue Dec 5 17:53:21 2006 From: skurapat at ucsc.edu (Suraj N. Kurapati) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:53:21 -0800 Subject: [ubuntu-in] m17n-lib deb required In-Reply-To: <457576F0.2080208@sarai.net> References: <457576F0.2080208@sarai.net> Message-ID: <4575B211.7000102@ucsc.edu> Aniruddha Shankar wrote: > I'm trying to get skim + scim + m17n-lib to work on Kubuntu Edgy. One major > issue that was present was the inability to use scim+m17n-lib with Firefox and > Openoffice.org . This has been fixed ( > http://www.scim-im.org/news/imengines_news/scim_m17n_0_2_2 ) in m17n-lib 0.2.2, > but this is not available in the package repositories. Edgy has version 1.3.1 of m17n-* packages available: $ dpkg -l '*m17n*' ||/ Name Version +++-=======================-=======================- ii libm17n-0 1.3.1-1 ii m17n-db 1.3.1-1build1 un m17n-docs un m17n-env ii scim-m17n 0.1.3-2 The libm17n-0 package listed above most likely corresponds to the m17n-lib package you are requesting. > Create a .deb for m17n-lib and tell the list where they've uploaded it? I made m17n 1.3.3 and scim 0.2.0 packages here: http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~snk/pub/scim/ > Tell us how they created the .deb ? http://women.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingTutorial From skurapat at ucsc.edu Tue Dec 5 17:56:17 2006 From: skurapat at ucsc.edu (Suraj N. Kurapati) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:56:17 -0800 Subject: [ubuntu-in] m17n-lib deb required In-Reply-To: <4575B211.7000102@ucsc.edu> References: <457576F0.2080208@sarai.net> <4575B211.7000102@ucsc.edu> Message-ID: <4575B2C1.6050307@ucsc.edu> Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > Aniruddha Shankar wrote: >> Tell us how they created the .deb ? > > http://women.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingTutorial Sorry, my bookmark was outdated; the correct URL is: http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/PackagingTutorial From skurapat at ucsc.edu Tue Dec 5 17:58:41 2006 From: skurapat at ucsc.edu (Suraj N. Kurapati) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:58:41 -0800 Subject: [ubuntu-in] m17n-lib deb required In-Reply-To: <4575B2C1.6050307@ucsc.edu> References: <457576F0.2080208@sarai.net> <4575B211.7000102@ucsc.edu> <4575B2C1.6050307@ucsc.edu> Message-ID: <4575B351.3050702@ucsc.edu> Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: >> Aniruddha Shankar wrote: >>> Tell us how they created the .deb ? >> http://women.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingTutorial > > Sorry, my bookmark was outdated; the correct URL is: > http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/PackagingTutorial Argh, my mistake again. This is the correct URL: http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingTutorial Sorry for the confusion. From rreeve at goldcoast.qld.gov.au Thu Dec 7 01:19:28 2006 From: rreeve at goldcoast.qld.gov.au (PRR) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:19:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Browser font sets? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7731814.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi any resloution on this I am having the same problem with Legato Networker 7.3.2 clients on HP-UX 11.11 PARISC 64bit machines thanks Ruth -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Browser-font-sets--tf2555708.html#a7731814 Sent from the ubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lrj at telus.net Fri Dec 8 04:47:13 2006 From: lrj at telus.net (Ross Hammond) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:47:13 -0800 Subject: Suggestion Message-ID: <1165553233.16513.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I am trying to send in my hardware database but it would not connect to the server, and I have closed out the window with the Email. Is the Email posted anywhere else and if it isn't, could it be? Thanks Ross From e_eagle at charter.net Fri Dec 8 21:39:36 2006 From: e_eagle at charter.net (e_eagle at charter.net) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:39:36 -0800 Subject: Booting Ubuntu Message-ID: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> Cant get the Ubuntu CD (ISO burned by me) to load. Looks like Windows XP is overriding!! Eldon From mike_mahaffay at yahoo.com Sat Dec 9 00:09:12 2006 From: mike_mahaffay at yahoo.com (mike mahaffay) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: delete ubuntu Message-ID: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I need to delete the ENTIRE ubuntu OS ( sorry ). How do I go about it? Thanks Mike M ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From gzphilippines at yahoo.com.ph Sat Dec 9 06:14:21 2006 From: gzphilippines at yahoo.com.ph (gudy zopfi) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:14:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: adsl connection troubles with ubuntu Message-ID: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Men, :) I'm quite new to ubuntu but got some linux (rh5.0) experience in the past,now quite a while ago.. this is the situation : I have a home network with 4 pc's, connected to a 4 port adsl router On my own pc(1 of the 4(the 3 others have win2k and xp)) I've just installed ubuntu(6.10)from the "life cd" on a brand new harddisk,well partioned and so on startup of ubuntu very smooth :) I can't see any trouble,applications running well and so on BUT internet acces..I can't get it right I get a message, "there are 25 updates available" so that means ubuntu has connected to a server somewhere, but the download fails always Also if I start firefox, I can't load any page (timed out every time) the point is I don't know where i must find the solution to this problem,bc the other pc's connection to internet are good is ubuntu(6.10) using differend protocols in compare with windows? how do I debug my system? where must I look and for what? I don't have any reference manual(as online help is also not working)and here in thailand you can't find books written in english...(i can't read thai...) (You have an idea how complex it becomes for me, but do my best is all i can ... :) ) Thank you so much for your help Gudy ____________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://ph.mail.yahoo.com From smccuan at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 08:16:33 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:16:33 -0500 Subject: delete ubuntu In-Reply-To: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You just overwrite it with another OS - There really is not such thing as "deleting an OS" You simply reformat and re-install a different OS over it. On 12/8/06, mike mahaffay wrote: > > I need to delete the ENTIRE ubuntu OS ( sorry ). How > do I go about it? > Thanks Mike M > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carsten at welcomes-you.com Sun Dec 10 08:23:42 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:23:42 +0100 Subject: Booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> References: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> Message-ID: <457BC40E.3050201@welcomes-you.com> e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > Cant get the Ubuntu CD (ISO burned by me) to load. Looks like Windows XP is overriding!! Have you tried to set the boot order in the BIOS differently? I suspect, that in that boot order your hard disk is checked earlier than the CD drive. Try changing the order and you should succeed.[1] Cheers Carsten [1] Since there are an awful lot of different BIOS versions out there, I cannot tell you how to change it. Sometimes it's hitting + or - on the listed devices, some tell you something like: primary boot option, secondary boot option, ... From mike_po at streamyx.com Sun Dec 10 08:27:19 2006 From: mike_po at streamyx.com (michaelpo@myjaring.net) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:27:19 +0800 Subject: ubuntu on a laptop, regular unwanted disc access In-Reply-To: <4579B8DB.5080202@welcomes-you.com> References: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> <4579B8DB.5080202@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <457BC4E7.8070800@streamyx.com> Why is too much ram a problem? How much is too much? Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Is there something that is recommended to be altered? > > That's a pretty difficult subject. I think there is a howto on > http://www.tlpd.org/, however I haven't found it just yet and it might > be slightly outdated. > > If I remember correctly, the biggest problem is that the syslogd writes > ever once in a while into /var/log/syslog and other files. Putting > /var/log into a ramdisk might help, also switching swap off as well, > however, with /var/log/ not on disk anymore, you might lose the > possiblity to diagnose problems. > >>From my experience, switching off hard disks does not seem to save an > awful lot of wattage, the biggest problem is probably memory (don't put > too much memory into the system), the CPU (use all the powersave you can > get) and reduce the backlight brightness as much as possible. > > Sorry, for having only these too general guidelines :( > > Carsten > > From norman at littletank.org Sun Dec 10 08:49:12 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:49:12 +0000 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> > Try: > > File|Print|Setup Printer| > > Make sure that the Printer PPD has the right path for your printer. Mine > is a Canon MP-750 and the path is: > > /usr/share/turboprint/ppd/Canon_PIXMA_MP750.ppd > > Make sure the Standard Command box has your actual printer in the > Printer Queue box. > > Click OK and you should now see the settings & paper types for your > printer. You can also modify the border settings manually. > > Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS > Turboprint + Canon Pixma MP750 Thanks for that but, please note, I have been printing borderless for quite a long time using Gimp and I am satisfied that my settings are correct. If they were not I don't think I could print successfully from the shell. No, I am convinced that something has been changed connected with the print setup screen in Gimp. Norman From carsten at welcomes-you.com Sun Dec 10 09:09:06 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:09:06 +0100 Subject: ubuntu on a laptop, regular unwanted disc access In-Reply-To: <457BC4E7.8070800@streamyx.com> References: <1165604174.5706.8.camel@worldventures> <4579B8DB.5080202@welcomes-you.com> <457BC4E7.8070800@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <457BCEB2.702@welcomes-you.com> michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > Why is too much ram a problem? > How much is too much? Well, every RAM module consumes energy. For example, a high-end laptop with 2 GByte RAM needs much more power than one with 256 MB for the RAM alone. Putting it simplistically: Suppose the 256 MByte memory are made of 4 512 MBit chips, each consuming say 800 mW, thus totalling to 3.2 W. Now the 2 GByte RAM are made from 1 GBit chips, each consuming, say, 600 mW. You need 16 of these to make the memory, thus 16*0.6 W or roughly 10 Watts. I don't have exact numbers in my head right now, but a little bit of browsing should help to nail down the numbers more thoroughly, but I guess the idea is clear, isn't it? Cheers Carsten From phummers at iname.com Sun Dec 10 10:23:33 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:23:33 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612091715y21e2424fi5cc41498bc2d79f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> <6f6293f10612091715y21e2424fi5cc41498bc2d79f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061210052333.bd66eeb0.phummers@iname.com> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:15:02 +0100 "Felipe Alfaro Solana" wrote: > > Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? > > Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be > > compiled & run on OS X? > > Cause Linux is far more flexible, sexy, nice-looking and powerful :-) Some people (like me) think even Gnome or KDE are too bloated and unnecesarily complicated. (I run xubuntu with IceWM.) In comparison, OS X is like a Rube Goldberg ( http://preview.tinyurl.com/f9bub ) device. Its core, Darwin, is interesting and useful; for example, it will automount devices (but then, so will ubuntu). But OS X buries Darwin beneath this behemoth of a GUI, which needs 1G of memory to run reasonably, that provides ... bouncing icons? I have also seen many new world Macs with indifferent build quality (though I haven't seen any MacBooks). The old world Macs were built like Volvos. I bought a used Lombard for under $200 that runs ubuntu brilliantly. The Pismo, for a few dollars more, has firewire, too. -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From phummers at iname.com Sun Dec 10 10:27:34 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:27:34 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 John Richard Moser wrote: > I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I > think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant > keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's > capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a > processor that can clock 100MHz max. I'm not much of a tree-hugger, but there are too many computers that still work in our landfills. I'd like to see some support for 486; 386s could still serve files, too, as far as that goes ... -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sun Dec 10 10:50:35 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:50:35 +0100 Subject: Setting up HTTPS w/subdomain on Apache2 In-Reply-To: <457BA9FB.8040202@earthlink.net> References: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> <9421dc6f0612092201x6a2753a2n356cf7e2e0d92ff9@mail.gmail.com> <457BA9FB.8040202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <014ACAD3-C24A-4679-948D-19DDFC5CD6A2@openforce.com> Am 10.12.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Anthony Yarusso: >>> Secure authentication >>> Secure data transfer That is what you need SSL for >>> So far I've learned about Basic Authentication, but it said that the >>> password is transmitted in plaintext. Then there was Digest, but >>> the >>> data is still unencrypted. The docs recommended using SSL, and >>> unless >>> I'm mistaken, HTTP w/SSL = HTTPS. So, I'm hoping to make this >>> particular directory accessible only with supplying a valid username >>> and password, and have both the password and the data returned >>> travel >>> the connection in encrypted form. The virtual subdomain is a >>> wishlist >>> item primarily. Authentication would be basic or digest (Personally I'm using basic since it's - imho - a lot more compatible with clients) >>> >>> Note: this ONLY needs to apply to a particular directory; I want the >>> rest of the site accessible normally with unauthenticated http. From what I know the easiest way would be to have http://public.example.com <- points to the publicly available part https://secure.example.com <- holds all stuff that should be encrypted Something to think of: With a single IP Address it's not possible (at lost without investing money) to have different SSL Hosts on the same IP. Apache will use the first SSL Host it finds to do encryption. This is necessary since the client etablishes the encrypted communication before even making a request. So: https:/secure.example.com/part1, https://secure.example.com/part2 - where part1 and part2 could have totally different content. Just direct your users to the secured subdomain and directory (if you have the need for more than one), whenever they need to access a secure part. could be done with If you have only one directory (with only a single directory): RewriteEnginge On RewriteRule ^/secure https://secure.example.com/ [R] More secured directories (this will redirect all subdirectories in public.example.com to https://secure.example.com/$SUBDIRECTORY): RewriteEnginge On RewriteRule ^/(.+) https://secure.example.com/$1 [R] Read a bit about some regular expressions how to get the correct redirection. >> I think you could use mod_rewrite to redirect non-https requests to >> https for the subdomain. I'm not sure what your question is, though, >> whether it's about how to set up https in general, or force all >> traffic to use https? that is the module you need to enable, try a2enmod in a shell or man a2enmod quite a convenient command... hope that gives you a starting point Martin From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sun Dec 10 10:51:10 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:51:10 +0100 Subject: Setting up HTTPS w/subdomain on Apache2 In-Reply-To: <457BA9FB.8040202@earthlink.net> References: <457B93F5.9080703@earthlink.net> <9421dc6f0612092201x6a2753a2n356cf7e2e0d92ff9@mail.gmail.com> <457BA9FB.8040202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2632F36F-EBA3-4C9E-9E06-DD0C4D760B2C@openforce.com> Am 10.12.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Anthony Yarusso: >>> Secure authentication >>> Secure data transfer That is what you need SSL for >>> So far I've learned about Basic Authentication, but it said that the >>> password is transmitted in plaintext. Then there was Digest, but >>> the >>> data is still unencrypted. The docs recommended using SSL, and >>> unless >>> I'm mistaken, HTTP w/SSL = HTTPS. So, I'm hoping to make this >>> particular directory accessible only with supplying a valid username >>> and password, and have both the password and the data returned >>> travel >>> the connection in encrypted form. The virtual subdomain is a >>> wishlist >>> item primarily. Authentication would be basic or digest (Personally I'm using basic since it's - imho - a lot more compatible with clients) >>> >>> Note: this ONLY needs to apply to a particular directory; I want the >>> rest of the site accessible normally with unauthenticated http. From what I know the easiest way would be to have http://public.example.com <- points to the publicly available part https://secure.example.com <- holds all stuff that should be encrypted Something to think of: With a single IP Address it's not possible (at lost without investing money) to have different SSL Hosts on the same IP. Apache will use the first SSL Host it finds to do encryption. This is necessary since the client etablishes the encrypted communication before even making a request. So: https:/secure.example.com/part1, https://secure.example.com/part2 - where part1 and part2 could have totally different content. Just direct your users to the secured subdomain and directory (if you have the need for more than one), whenever they need to access a secure part. could be done with If you have only one directory (with only a single directory): RewriteEnginge On RewriteRule ^/secure https://secure.example.com/ [R] More secured directories (this will redirect all subdirectories in public.example.com to https://secure.example.com/$SUBDIRECTORY): RewriteEnginge On RewriteRule ^/(.+) https://secure.example.com/$1 [R] Read a bit about some regular expressions how to get the correct redirection. >> I think you could use mod_rewrite to redirect non-https requests to >> https for the subdomain. I'm not sure what your question is, though, >> whether it's about how to set up https in general, or force all >> traffic to use https? that is the module you need to enable, try a2enmod in a shell or man a2enmod quite a convenient command... hope that gives you a starting point Martin From moranar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 10:52:39 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:52:39 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612100252h4fbb23baw3eca93ff94101567@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, Peter Hummers wrote: > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 > John Richard Moser wrote: > > I'm not much of a tree-hugger, but there are too many computers that still work in our landfills. I'd like to see some support for 486; 386s could still serve files, too, as far as that goes ... Configuring Debian and NFS/Samba on them shouldn't be too hard (actually, I should know: I have a celeron 70 doing exactly that. It's not too hard). Diluting Ubuntu's purpose (to be an excellent _desktop_ distro) wouldn't be enough justification for this, in my opinion (who said I'm humble?). -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sun Dec 10 10:54:21 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:54:21 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini as a Server Message-ID: <4FC0476F-C0B0-4136-8B66-1E59B599C6E6@openforce.com> Hello, I'm thinking about getting a mac mini as a server. I know I/O won't be too good since the components aren't really server components. What bugs me is that I'd like to have it as a Xen host which needs: * A fully supported Ethernet card to have bridging work right * the possibility of attaching the mac mini to a NAS (Gigabit networking is built in so bandwith shouldn't be a problem) Anyobody using mac minis as a cheap drop in server to do some testing and other stuff? Any Recommendations are welcome... thanks martin From ron at ronsmits.org Sun Dec 10 10:54:32 2006 From: ron at ronsmits.org (Ron Smits) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:54:32 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <1165748072.5808.5.camel@eagle> I agree, imagine building a huge clusterlike environment with them. Maybe ubuntu can include special kernels for them? Ron On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 05:27 -0500, Peter Hummers wrote: > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 > John Richard Moser wrote: > > > I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I > > think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant > > keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's > > capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a > > processor that can clock 100MHz max. > > I'm not much of a tree-hugger, but there are too many computers that still work in our landfills. I'd like to see some support for 486; 386s could still serve files, too, as far as that goes ... > -- > Peter Hummers > == > Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, > the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage > http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage > From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Dec 10 11:07:08 2006 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo F.) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:07:08 +0100 Subject: remote files and samba Message-ID: <1165748828.8792.15.camel@D4L> Hi, I have a windows computer with NTFS filesytem in my local network with a folder with mp3, zip files, video, pictures, etc. I can connect to that folder, copy any file to my computer and open it (default app for audio and video is totem-gstreamer). Problem is that if I try to open an mp3 or video from the remote folder i get an error. Totem could not play 'smb://NAME_OF_THE_FILE'. Could not read from resource. Mplayer wont open it, nor will rhythmbox or archive manager for zip files. I have opened pdf and tiff files from the remote folder though. Any idea how to solve it? Thanks From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Dec 10 11:09:19 2006 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo F.) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:09:19 +0100 Subject: joystick Message-ID: <1165748959.8792.19.camel@D4L> Hi, Snes9x by default looks for my joystick at /dev/js0 so anytime i boot i have to manually set a symbolic link to /dev/input/js0. I have created an entry in the applications menu with gksudo "ln - /dev/input/js0 /dev/js0" I know i can probably add it as an entry to the session menu too, but i was wondering is there is any other way to create the link only if i plug the joystick. From G.Tudan at gmx.de Sun Dec 10 11:20:06 2006 From: G.Tudan at gmx.de (Gregor Tudan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:20:06 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini as a Server In-Reply-To: <4FC0476F-C0B0-4136-8B66-1E59B599C6E6@openforce.com> References: <4FC0476F-C0B0-4136-8B66-1E59B599C6E6@openforce.com> Message-ID: <457BED66.9060502@gmx.de> Martin Marcher schrieb: > Hello, > > I'm thinking about getting a mac mini as a server. I know I/O won't > be too good since the components aren't really server components. > What bugs me is that I'd like to have it as a Xen host which needs: > > * A fully supported Ethernet card to have bridging work right > * the possibility of attaching the mac mini to a NAS (Gigabit > networking is built in so bandwith shouldn't be a problem) > > Anyobody using mac minis as a cheap drop in server to do some testing > and other stuff? Any Recommendations are welcome... > > thanks > martin > > > You might want to have a look at the "cebop scope 88" (Aopen Mini PC) which has the same measurements. It comes with gigabit ethernet and works quiet well under Linux (ethernet is fully supported). The only thing wich doesn't seem to work is suspend and Dual Head. It should be a bit cheaper as well. There is an excellent article here (http://www.minitechnet.de/cebop_scope_01.html : German :-( ). From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Dec 10 11:22:44 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:22:44 +0100 Subject: adsl connection troubles with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: gudy zopfi wrote the following on 09.12.2006 07:14: > I've just installed ubuntu(6.10) > BUT internet acces..I can't get it right > I get a message, "there are 25 updates available" so > that means ubuntu has connected to a server somewhere, > but the download fails always > Also if I start firefox, I can't load any page > (timed out every time) > Thank you so much for your help > > Gudy Maybe have a look here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/61989 check with "ifconfig" : $ ifconfig | grep --color=auto MTU Your MTU should at least be s.th. like around 1500. HTH Thilo From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun Dec 10 12:16:23 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:16:23 +0200 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? In-Reply-To: <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Thank you all, I have lshw installed, but it isn't verbose enough. For instance: I wold like to know how many mem sticks I have on the Motherboard (slot 1: X MB @ X MHz and so on). Any /proc branch for it? Thanks! On 12/7/06, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:16:14 +0500 > "Waqas Toor" wrote: > > > On 12/7/06, Clive Menzies wrote: > > > On (07/12/06 08:33), Amichai Rotman wrote: > [snip] > > > Install lshw - I'm not sure in which repository it resides. > > > > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/lshw > > umm.... it's already installed by default in Ubuntu - and why would you > install a Debian package anyway ? Using Debian packages is deprecated > ( not to mention potentially dangerous) . > > $ apt-cache rdepends lshw > lshw > Reverse Depends: > ubuntu-standard > ubuntu-standard > |lshw-common > > "ubuntu-standard" is one of the metapackages for an Ubuntu > install, which will pull in lshw . > > Peter > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. 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In-Reply-To: References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20061210130841.GB12108@fridge.pov.lt> On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 02:16:23PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Thank you all, > > I have lshw installed, but it isn't verbose enough. For instance: I wold > like to know how many mem sticks I have on the Motherboard (slot 1: X MB @ X > MHz and so on). > > Any /proc branch for it? sudo lshw tells me part of this (lshw as a regular user doesn't): *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 2c slot: System board or motherboard size: 1GB capacity: 1GB *-bank:0 description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous physical id: 0 slot: DIMM 1 size: 512MB width: 64 bits *-bank:1 description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous physical id: 1 slot: DIMM 2 size: 512MB width: 64 bits sudo dmidecode also shows the same kind of information. I don't think you can get the memory speed in MHz this way. A better bet would be to google for the motherboard's manual. Marius Gedminas -- Funny off-topic messages are always on-topic. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun Dec 10 13:36:14 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:36:14 +0200 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? In-Reply-To: <20061210130841.GB12108@fridge.pov.lt> References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <20061210130841.GB12108@fridge.pov.lt> Message-ID: That's what I wanted ! Thanks! On 12/10/06, Marius Gedminas wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 02:16:23PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Thank you all, > > > > I have lshw installed, but it isn't verbose enough. For instance: I wold > > like to know how many mem sticks I have on the Motherboard (slot 1: X MB > @ X > > MHz and so on). > > > > Any /proc branch for it? > > sudo lshw tells me part of this (lshw as a regular user doesn't): > > *-memory > description: System Memory > physical id: 2c > slot: System board or motherboard > size: 1GB > capacity: 1GB > *-bank:0 > description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous > physical id: 0 > slot: DIMM 1 > size: 512MB > width: 64 bits > *-bank:1 > description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous > physical id: 1 > slot: DIMM 2 > size: 512MB > width: 64 bits > > sudo dmidecode also shows the same kind of information. I don't think you > can > get the memory speed in MHz this way. A better bet would be to google for > the > motherboard's manual. > > Marius Gedminas > -- > Funny off-topic messages are always on-topic. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFfAbZkVdEXeem148RAuInAKCNfqSm+Jcyak+VpSfQhRZnmbrNawCbBvI1 > 6aBKhI/6J7ZpFfCEiHG4H8A= > =WcQJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- :====================================================:. 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Has anyone succeeded in installing PDO for PHP 5 in Edgy, or the respective drivers for PostgreSQL access? Doing "pecl install pdo" or "pecl install pdo_pgsql" ends up with something like -- Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 117 bytes) in /usr/share/php/PEAR/Registry.php on line 1012 Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 32 bytes) in /usr/share/php/PEAR.php on line 766 -- I've set all the memory limits for scripts in ALL php.ini files I could find to 64 megs and it still bombs out without actually installing PDO support, so I have no idea of what could be wrong... Thanks. From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun Dec 10 14:11:28 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:28 +0200 Subject: Kooka not scanning Message-ID: Hi All, I am running Edgy with Gnome as my desktop. I installed Kooka to use my Canon Lide 20 Scanner. 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URL: From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sun Dec 10 15:49:36 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:49:36 -0600 Subject: fan, voltage sensors in GKrellM Message-ID: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> Under 6.06 I had my fans and voltage sensors working with gKrellM. Instead of upgrading to 6.10 I did a fresh installation and now can't get either to work again. I've installed everything I can find/think of to correct the problem but can't seem to get them working again. Do any of you have a clue bat you could hit me with? Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From hwbj at twcny.rr.com Sun Dec 10 16:20:26 2006 From: hwbj at twcny.rr.com (Harold Bibik) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:20:26 -0500 Subject: fan, voltage sensors in GKrellM In-Reply-To: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> References: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <1165767626.4895.4.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 09:49 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Under 6.06 I had my fans and voltage sensors working with gKrellM. > Instead of upgrading to 6.10 I did a fresh installation and now can't > get either to work again. I've installed everything I can find/think > of to correct the problem but can't seem to get them working again. Do > any of you have a clue bat you could hit me with? I used this HOWTO to get sensors working for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780 From cheataah at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 16:38:12 2006 From: cheataah at gmail.com (Cheatah 0#@!^) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:08:12 +0530 Subject: restart prob. Message-ID: nw i hav a strange prob...every time i restart,i hav to start ma gdm manualy..after reconfiggin xserver-xfree86...can ya help me out.. me using sarge on lenovo 3000y100... From email.listen at googlemail.com Sun Dec 10 16:42:03 2006 From: email.listen at googlemail.com (email.listen at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:42:03 +0100 Subject: fan, voltage sensors in GKrellM In-Reply-To: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> References: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <200612101742.04787.email.listen@googlemail.com> Am Sun, 10. December 2006 16:49 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard: > Under 6.06 I had my fans and voltage sensors working with gKrellM. > Instead of upgrading to 6.10 I did a fresh installation and now can't > get either to work again. I've installed everything I can find/think > of to correct the problem but can't seem to get them working again. Do > any of you have a clue bat you could hit me with? > Please explain 'I've installe everything I can find/think of' ;-) - lm-sensors is installed? - You did a 'sudo sensors-detect'? - What shows a 'sudo sensors'? regards, thomas From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Sun Dec 10 16:48:16 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:16 +0100 Subject: delete ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165769296.5414.3.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 03:16 -0500, Shawn McCuan wrote: > You just overwrite it with another OS - or any other data. > There really is not such thing as "deleting an OS" Sure there is - select the OS's files and delete them, you've deleted an OS. > You simply reformat and re-install a different OS over it. Or delete it, reformat it to whatever the other OS accepts, and you're done. 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At least, until one of the repositories adds a new section... :-) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From garryknight at gmx.net Sun Dec 10 17:28:25 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:28:25 +0000 Subject: install and removing apps.... cleaning References: <45797F84.90307@tampabay.rr.com> <87irglqn1r.fsf@spamfence.net> <20061209234712.2049350d@WizardsTower> Message-ID: Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > ?? Here Synaptic shows: > Package Section Installed Version Latest Version Size Description > > Doesn't the 'Section' part show the repository? It does, but I'd like to see all of the packages from one repository listed together, and clicking the Section heading doesn't put them in alphabetical order. While the Universe packages are all shown together, the Multiverse, Non-free and Contrib packages are mixed together. I would prefer to be able to see only the packages available from a particular repository. Andy's suggestion allows me to do that, up to a point. If one of the repositories adds a new section then I'd have to go back into Synaptic and reconfigure the filter for that repository, but I wouldn't have any easy way of knowing that section was missing. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From williams at astro.ox.ac.uk Sun Dec 10 17:49:32 2006 From: williams at astro.ox.ac.uk (Michael Williams) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:49:32 +0000 Subject: Reducing optical drive when playing audio CDs Message-ID: <20061210174931.GD6082@astro.ox.ac.uk> How do I reduce the noise made by my PC's optical drive when listening to audio CDs? The PC runs Dapper. "hdparm -E [low number]" isn't working and, according to its man page, it shouldn't be necessary. I know it's possible for an OS to adapt the optical drive speed based on context, since OS X manages to play audio CDs without sounding like a jet engine (as does Windows, I think, although it's been a while!). However, with the hdparm -E switch set, the drive still sounds like it's spinning very quickly. Also, that switch permanently lowers the speed, which also reduces the speed for data discs. According to the man page it should not be required for normal operation. My understanding is that this is an OS-level issue, but I have tried more than one audio CD application (Sound Juicer, Rhythmbox, xmcd). For unrelated reasons, I don't want to encode the CDs as MP3s and play them from my hard drive. The PC is only a few months old and a good quality IBM model. The drive is apparently a Lite-on DVD SOHOD 16P9-S. -- Mike From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Sun Dec 10 18:03:20 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:03:20 +0100 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> I'm no expert on this but I might be able to point you in the right direction. If the version of Gimp on your old machine was installed a while ago it probably got installed with the old gimp-print package. That sounds like it worked fine for you. But reasonable recently the gimp-print setup/ name/ package has changed from whatever it was to something called glutenprint. Don't ask me what the difference is, but do remember that Gimp does not handle printing. The printing is handled by a quite separate package (which lots of other apps also use). So see if you can find out where the differences are there. The gimp discussion list is quite good if I remember rightly. Good luck, and thanks for bothering to try and fix this yourself before asking for help, it's surprising how many people don't do that. 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I have heard suggestions that ports are now turned off by default (the world would be a safer place if someone would tell M$ about ports being off by default). I was able to get sftp working, but I never knew exactly what I did differently with sftp (got it to work) and ftp (did not get it to work). The slower transfers of sftp are annoying on large files (3GB - 4GB) so I have never been happy with sftp. Now I am ready to try ftp again. I assume that I am missing something really simple. If it were tough I would have found something in the FAQs and Goggle searches. Rather than beat my head against the wall some more I'll just ask the questions: 1) How would I open ftp ports after doing an apt-get install proftpd? 2) What is the initial port configuration for Dapper Drake and how do we control the opening and closing of ports for various "apt-get" packages and for "home brew" code such as perl networking code development? Thank you, Bruce From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Sun Dec 10 19:09:39 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:09:39 -0600 Subject: fan, voltage sensors in GKrellM In-Reply-To: <1165767626.4895.4.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> References: <20061210094936.09ca3ecc@WizardsTower> <1165767626.4895.4.camel@biscuit.twcny.rr.com> Message-ID: <20061210130939.4f9d9a75@WizardsTower> Harold Bibik said: > On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 09:49 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > Under 6.06 I had my fans and voltage sensors working with gKrellM. > > Instead of upgrading to 6.10 I did a fresh installation and now > > can't get either to work again. I've installed everything I can > > find/think of to correct the problem but can't seem to get them > > working again. Do any of you have a clue bat you could hit me with? > > > I used this HOWTO to get sensors working for me > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780 > BINGO! Thank you, Harold, for your help. Everything is hunky-dory again. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 20:18:25 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:18:25 +0100 Subject: opening ports In-Reply-To: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> References: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <457C6B91.1040909@gmail.com> Ubuntu doesnt come with a firewall by default so you dont have to worry about opening ports. If youve installed one you should be able to use it to do the opening. There are guides to installing and configuring proftpd in the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex /Björn Ottervik Bruce wrote: > Hi, > > About 3 or 4 months ago I installed Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake. At the > time I attempted to set up ftp. I don't have notes on everything I did, > but I am sure that I did an apt-get install proftpd (I often used this > on Debian machines). It wouldn't work. I tried lots of things, read up > on IP Tables and made modifications there, and did a lot of Goggling. I > did quite a bit of reading on Ubuntu help pages. I have heard > suggestions that ports are now turned off by default (the world would be > a safer place if someone would tell M$ about ports being off by > default). I was able to get sftp working, but I never knew exactly what > I did differently with sftp (got it to work) and ftp (did not get it to > work). The slower transfers of sftp are annoying on large files (3GB - > 4GB) so I have never been happy with sftp. > Now I am ready to try ftp again. I assume that I am missing something > really simple. If it were tough I would have found something in the > FAQs and Goggle searches. Rather than beat my head against the wall > some more I'll just ask the questions: > > 1) How would I open ftp ports after doing an apt-get install proftpd? > > 2) What is the initial port configuration for Dapper Drake and how do we > control the opening and closing of ports for various "apt-get" packages > and for "home brew" code such as perl networking code development? > > Thank you, > Bruce > > > > > > From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 10 20:21:44 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:21:44 +0000 Subject: opening ports In-Reply-To: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> References: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1165782104.5920.20.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 13:48 -0500, Bruce wrote: > 1) How would I open ftp ports after doing an apt-get install proftpd? > > 2) What is the initial port configuration for Dapper Drake and how do we > control the opening and closing of ports for various "apt-get" packages > and for "home brew" code such as perl networking code development? > > Thank you, > Bruce > Hi there Bruce! The default install of Ubuntu in general and Dapper in particular doesn't have ports closed off as such. There is simply no software installed or configured in such a way that it opens and listens on ports. If you fire up an IRC client you would find that a bunch of ports are opened because of that particular application. There is no firewalling installed by default and so it isn't a case of opening up ports (unless you installed firewall software yourself). If you have a standard install of Dapper and then apt-get install proftpd the ftp service will open up port 21 (or what ever you configure) and begin listening. I am not sure what happened with your install but can only say that you double-check the configuration files and ensure that you do something like /etc/init.d/proftpd restart to ensure config changes take effect. I have installed proftpd and vsftpd multiple times on different Ubuntu versions without that kind of problem. You may hit some difficulties if you try to install an ftp packages and the /home already contains an ftp directory. I'd suggest mv /home/ftp /home/ftp2 so when you install the proftpd packages it will recreate the home dir and correct any permission issues. Think I'm barking up the wrong tree though, so I'll quit and see what others come up with. Gabe From scotth at csee.wvu.edu Sun Dec 10 20:27:01 2006 From: scotth at csee.wvu.edu (Scott J. Henson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:27:01 -0500 Subject: opening ports In-Reply-To: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> References: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: Bruce wrote: > 2) What is the initial port configuration for Dapper Drake and how do we > control the opening and closing of ports for various "apt-get" packages > and for "home brew" code such as perl networking code development? Ubuntu doesn't come with any firewall. Thus it doesn't come with any closed ports. It also doesn't come with anything listening by default so its secure despite not having a firewall. I'm not sure how to help you without knowing what you did with iptables. The best I can say is that you need to open up ports 20 and 21. I use shorewall as my firewall and adding the following to my /etc/shorewall/rules file will open up ftp. ACCEPT net fw tcp ftp ACCEPT net fw tcp ftp-data Beyond that Im not sure how to help. -- Scott Henson LCSEE Systems Staff WVU MAE Undergraduate Ubuntu User From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 10 20:31:08 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:31:08 +0000 Subject: Ext3 resizing and performance Message-ID: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> Now I am in the Ext3 territory I do have a couple of things that I'd like to clear up. Firstly I am unsure about the -T flag with news, largefile, largefile2 being options, which should I choose for best performance on / ? More importantly is how do you grow a logical volume ONLINE, without first unmounting it when it is using Ext3? What does the "commit" function actually do? I have changed it from 5 seconds to 600 on my laptop - will that affect something adversely? I recently changed all my LVs from ReiserFS to Ext3 formats. I can't believe the difference - about 20% increase in performance. GIMP now starts in 5 seconds instead of 7 after the computer being freshly rebooted. On the whole the computer seems to do a whole lot less scratching when firing up applications. I can't say that ReiserFS was fragmented, I had a standard desktop install and it was freshly installed just 3 weeks ago. Before changing to Ext3 I gave JFS a whirl and found it to be sllooww. Copying a large file took 6 mins as opposed to 4 on Reiser. And just starting the computer or applications would result in more-than-required HDD thrashing - obviously not a good filesystem for the computer and quite perhaps easily fragmented. I much appreciate any advice Best regards Gabe From haniganwork at earthlik.net Sun Dec 10 20:38:57 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:38:57 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <1165783137.11079.8.camel@star> I just retired a computer that is 18 years old. About 8 years ago I loaded slackware on this computer at work and have used it as a terminal connection. Last week I took a 7 year old computer that had been used for windows 98 added some memory cards I had sitting around and now we have a fully functioning computer to use to display web pages and for word processing using open office. We also use it as a terminal to run text based programs. One of the great advantages of Linux is it allows you to take what would be oboslete equipment and make it useful again. Linda From norman at littletank.org Sun Dec 10 21:16:42 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:16:42 +0000 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165785402.5736.8.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 19:03 +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > I'm no expert on this but I might be able to point you in the right > direction. < snip > > The gimp discussion list is quite good if I remember rightly. > > Good luck, and thanks for bothering to try and fix this yourself before > asking for help, it's surprising how many people don't do that. Thanks for your comments. I realise that Gimp itself does not actually do the printing but would expect settings, set using Gimp, would influence the printing process. I also understand that Turboprint uses the same printing software as Gimp. The mystery is that printing through Turboprint is successful through Gimp it is not. Norman From sethian at sympatico.ca Sun Dec 10 21:54:39 2006 From: sethian at sympatico.ca (Alexander Duncan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:54:39 -0500 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu Message-ID: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> With great difficulty I finally found what appears to be more or less official instructions on uninstalling the Ubuntu OS on www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p18.htm (why is this information not posted on the official Ubuntu web site)? However, I do not understand the reference to "choose the installation that you need to access from the Recovery Console" on page 2 of the instruction on the Recovery Console. Can anyone explain what is meant when referring to the "installation" - apparently a valid installation number is required according to the Recovery Console prompt, I don't know what this is - and also, what are the criteria of "need to access"? Does one "need to access" XP or Ubuntu itself (I assume that the OS is what is being referred to). Alternatively, can anyone provide clear and explicit instructions on how to remove Ubuntu from one's system and recombine its partition with the primary partition on a Windows XP system? I really think Ubuntu needs to pay as much attention to uninstalling Ubuntu easily and cleanly as to installing it. Thank you. P.S. Please cc. sethian at sympatico.ca as I am receiving a daily digest only and would like to obtain this information asap. I have been trying to get answers to these questions for over a week. Ubuntu does not appear to have a direct telephone number or email address for technical support. From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 22:08:44 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:08:44 +0100 Subject: Ext3 resizing and performance In-Reply-To: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> References: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Now I am in the Ext3 territory I do have a couple of things that I'd > like to clear up. > > Firstly I am unsure about the -T flag with news, largefile, largefile2 > being options, which should I choose for best performance on / ? This options control different aspects of the filesystem, like the total number of i-nodes of the filesystem. "news" usage is intended for a filesystem wil lots of small files (one i-node per 4KB so, for 4GB volume, you'll get 1M i-nodes). "largefile" is intended for filesystems with less and larger files than "news" (one i-node per 1MB, so for a 4GB volume you will get 4096 i-nodes) . "largefile4" is intended for filesystems with few and very lage files (one i-node per 4MB, so for a 4GB volume you will get 1024 i-nodes). The "-T" flag thus provides simple ways of controlling the number of i-nodes of the filesystem. For more fine-grained contro, you can use -N (numer of i-nodes) or -i (ratio of bytes per i-node). > More importantly is how do you grow a logical volume ONLINE, without > first unmounting it when it is using Ext3? You can use ext2online. However, ext2online has some limitations that resize2fs don't. For most of the typical use, ext2online will do fine, however. > What does the "commit" function actually do? I have changed it from 5 > seconds to 600 on my laptop - will that affect something adversely? If my memory serves me well, it dictates the amount of time pdflush uses to look through the list of dirty blocks in order to write them back to disk. The longest the interval, the longest it will time for pdflush to write dirty buffers to disk, increasing the disk of data loss due to power outages and making the disk idle for longer time. > I recently changed all my LVs from ReiserFS to Ext3 formats. I can't > believe the difference - about 20% increase in performance. GIMP now > starts in 5 seconds instead of 7 after the computer being freshly > rebooted. On the whole the computer seems to do a whole lot less > scratching when firing up applications. I can't say that ReiserFS was > fragmented, I had a standard desktop install and it was freshly > installed just 3 weeks ago. > > Before changing to Ext3 I gave JFS a whirl and found it to be sllooww. > Copying a large file took 6 mins as opposed to 4 on Reiser. And just > starting the computer or applications would result in more-than-required > HDD thrashing - obviously not a good filesystem for the computer and > quite perhaps easily fragmented. I find XFS to be extremely fast, but I have suffered some problems in the past and I wouldn't recommend it for critical environments. From okkadiroglu at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 22:22:07 2006 From: okkadiroglu at gmail.com (Osman Kemal Kadiroglu) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:22:07 +0200 Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu Message-ID: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> Hi, I am thinking to move to Ubuntu from Suse10.1. I have a 64bit AMD computer. There are some problems I have with Suse, like video watching. Any recommendations or warnings about Ubuntu from the users? Best Regards Osman Kemal Kadiroğlu Sc. D. MIT'76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MIT'76 > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oyoimza.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5279 bytes Desc: not available URL: From smccuan at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 22:33:46 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:33:46 -0500 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> References: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I dont think that you have much experience with Operating Systems. I would also like to bring something to your attention, have you ever seen an "Uninstall" option for Windows??? (im not talking about uninstalling upgrades, the entire OS.) The only logical way to "uninstall" an operating system is to reformat the hard drive (or partition) and then re-install another operating system over it (if you choose.) On 12/10/06, Alexander Duncan wrote: > > With great difficulty I finally found what appears to be more or less > official instructions on uninstalling the Ubuntu OS on > www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p18.htm (why is this information not > posted on the official Ubuntu web site)? However, I do not understand > the reference to "choose the installation that you need to access from > the Recovery Console" on page 2 of the instruction on the Recovery > Console. Can anyone explain what is meant when referring to the > "installation" - apparently a valid installation number is required > according to the Recovery Console prompt, I don't know what this is - > and also, what are the criteria of "need to access"? Does one "need to > access" XP or Ubuntu itself (I assume that the OS is what is being > referred to). Alternatively, can anyone provide clear and explicit > instructions on how to remove Ubuntu from one's system and recombine its > partition with the primary partition on a Windows XP system? > > I really think Ubuntu needs to pay as much attention to uninstalling > Ubuntu easily and cleanly as to installing it. > > Thank you. > > P.S. Please cc. sethian at sympatico.ca as I am receiving a daily digest > only and would like to obtain this information asap. I have been trying > to get answers to these questions for over a week. Ubuntu does not > appear to have a direct telephone number or email address for technical > support. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Sun Dec 10 22:47:58 2006 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:47:58 +0000 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> References: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <457C8E9E.60904@manchester.ac.uk> Alexander, Alexander Duncan wrote: > With great difficulty I finally found what appears to be more or less > official instructions on uninstalling the Ubuntu OS on > www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p18.htm (why is this information not > posted on the official Ubuntu web site)? However, I do not understand > the reference to "choose the installation that you need to access from > the Recovery Console" on page 2 of the instruction on the Recovery > Console. I think the screen should show a list of instances of Windows that the recovery console has found on your hard disk at the top of the screen. For most people there is probably only one (and for Linux geeks, none at all!). The list should be numbered, so enter the number of the instance you are interested in, probably a 1. > Can anyone explain what is meant when referring to the > "installation" - apparently a valid installation number is required > according to the Recovery Console prompt, I don't know what this is - > and also, what are the criteria of "need to access"? Does one "need to > access" XP or Ubuntu itself (I assume that the OS is what is being > referred to). The instructions on the WEB page you referenced is telling you how to recover the MBR so the system boots into Windows. It probably needs to know which instance of Windows you want to boot into. > Alternatively, can anyone provide clear and explicit > instructions on how to remove Ubuntu from one's system and recombine its > partition with the primary partition on a Windows XP system? I thought the page you referenced was fairly clear! > I really think Ubuntu needs to pay as much attention to uninstalling > Ubuntu easily and cleanly as to installing it. Most people, once they get to understand Ubuntu a little never want to go back! > P.S. Please cc. sethian at sympatico.ca as I am receiving a daily digest > only and would like to obtain this information asap. I have been trying > to get answers to these questions for over a week. Ubuntu does not > appear to have a direct telephone number or email address for technical > support. Actually, you could call Microsoft for this one, I'm sure they would be delighted to help you for a large fee:-) Last time a friend of mine rang them they wanted £250 with no guarantee of fixing his problem! Or you could embrace the free software movement and get help and assistance from lists like this. It's free! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From invenit at yahoo.com Sun Dec 10 22:52:06 2006 From: invenit at yahoo.com (Tony Brezovski) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:52:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu Message-ID: <600600.86601.qm@web53003.mail.yahoo.com> I also moved to Ubuntu (via Mint) from SuSE 10.1 last month. The single one resource that got me acclimatized fast (besides the community documentation and this list) was a copy of "Ubuntu Hacks" by Jonathan Oxer et al. Anyway, I really like SuSE--a lot--but I like Ubuntu better. Tony ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 23:07:10 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:07:10 -0600 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> References: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612101507n20cd9fa5hb819b8e3a3214582@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, Alexander Duncan wrote: > > I really think Ubuntu needs to pay as much attention to uninstalling > Ubuntu easily and cleanly as to installing it. There's no documentation on it because it's unnecessary. Operating systems aren't "uninstalled" they're "installed over" by another operating system. -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi Sun Dec 10 23:07:09 2006 From: ari.torhamo at saunalahti.fi (Ari Torhamo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:07:09 +0200 Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> References: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> Message-ID: <1165792029.4725.58.camel@ari-desktop> ma, 2006-12-11 kello 00:22 +0200, Osman Kemal Kadiroglu kirjoitti: > Hi, > > I am thinking to move to Ubuntu from Suse10.1. I have a 64bit AMD > computer. There are some problems I have with Suse, like video > watching. Any recommendations or warnings about Ubuntu from the users? > Best Regards The default programme for watching videos and DVDs in Ubuntu is totem-gstreamer. It's getting better all the time, but using Ubuntu 6.10 I still get better experience with totem-xine. Both progrmmes have the same nice and simple graphical front end, but use different multimedia frameworks. A couple of usefull links: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats Regards, Ari Torhamo From psalmos at swissinfo.org Sun Dec 10 23:24:47 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:24:47 +1000 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> References: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <457C973F.7000505@swissinfo.org> Alexander Duncan wrote: > I do not understand > the reference to "choose the installation that you need to access from > the Recovery Console" on page 2 of the instruction on the Recovery > Console. It assumes you *may* have several Windows installations on your machine (e.g. WinXP, Win2003 etc). You need to choose which one to access from the Recovery Console since this is the purpose of the Recovery Console - to access and repair a broken Windows installation. In your case, you use it for a slightly different reason - to get to the DOS prompt so that you can execute fixmbr command. > Can anyone explain what is meant when referring to the > "installation" - apparently a valid installation number is required > according to the Recovery Console prompt, I don't know what this is No, if I'm not mistaken, Recovery Console doesn't need any serial numbers to function. > and also, what are the criteria of "need to access"? Does one "need to > access" XP or Ubuntu itself (I assume that the OS is what is being > referred to). See above. The bottom line is - the reason you want to use Recovery Console is to get to the command prompt. > Alternatively, can anyone provide clear and explicit > instructions on how to remove Ubuntu from one's system and recombine its > partition with the primary partition on a Windows XP system? It's all there on the page you found. To get rid of grub, you execute fixmbr command at DOS command promt. Once it's done, all you need to do is to format the disk space where Ubuntu is to fat32 file system. This can be done with, according to the page you found, GParted LiveCD. I personally never tried that (I have my own tools for things like that) but I don't see why it shouldn't work. > I really think Ubuntu needs to pay as much attention to uninstalling > Ubuntu easily and cleanly as to installing it. Perhaps, but since there's no such thing as uninstalling an OS, the procedure is really outside of the OS and hence, the vendor does not provide any information on how it should be done. This is common to I think all OS vendors. Nikolai From john.moniz at sympatico.ca Sun Dec 10 23:53:54 2006 From: john.moniz at sympatico.ca (John M. L. Moniz) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:53:54 -0500 Subject: adsl connection troubles with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <457C9E12.8090505@sympatico.ca> gudy zopfi wrote: >Men, :) I'm quite new to ubuntu but got some linux >(rh5.0) experience in the past,now quite a while ago.. > >this is the situation : >I have a home network with 4 pc's, connected to a 4 >port adsl router >On my own pc(1 of the 4(the 3 others have win2k and >xp)) I've just installed ubuntu(6.10)from the "life >cd" on a brand new harddisk,well partioned and so on > >startup of ubuntu very smooth :) I can't see any >trouble,applications running well and so on > >BUT internet acces..I can't get it right >I get a message, "there are 25 updates available" so >that means ubuntu has connected to a server somewhere, >but the download fails always >Also if I start firefox, I can't load any page >(timed out every time) > >the point is I don't know where i must find the >solution to this problem,bc the other pc's connection >to internet are good > >is ubuntu(6.10) using differend protocols in compare >with windows? how do I debug my system? where must I >look and for what? >I don't have any reference manual(as online help is >also not working)and here in thailand you can't find >books written in english...(i can't read thai...) >(You have an idea how complex it becomes for me, but >do my best is all i can ... :) ) > > > >Thank you so much for your help > >Gudy > Analysing network problems is one of those things that has to be done tiny step by tiny step. Some things to get started: - it seems that eth0 is up, but check anyway with ifconfig. - did you set up the network as DHCP or static IP? - can you ping the other boxes & can they ping the linux box? - try pinging an outside server (eg. www.google.com). - Did you set up the network for ADSL or LAN networking? It should be LAN since you have a router. Some of the above checks might give you a clue. John From psalmos at swissinfo.org Mon Dec 11 00:13:26 2006 From: psalmos at swissinfo.org (Nikolai) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:13:26 +1000 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <457C999E.9000401@sympatico.ca> References: <457C821F.8060801@sympatico.ca> <457C973F.7000505@swissinfo.org> <457C999E.9000401@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <457CA2A6.60202@swissinfo.org> Alexander Duncan wrote: > Thanks for your reply. > > I have Ubuntu and Windows XP on my machine. > > I want to remove Ubuntu, recombine the Ubuntu partition with the XP > partition, then reinstall Ubuntu with a much smaller partition size > since I am only running it to learn Unix. > > My problem is I have no idea what to enter when it asks for the valid > installation number. The startup directory of the OSs when I boot up is > not numbered, and there are at least three or four versions of Ubuntu on > the machine. Perhaps the Recovery Console asks you for your Windows serial number? I can't know for sure since I have never used it but it is odd... Have you tried giving it a serial number of your Windows disk (if you've got one)? > So if I want to delete Ubuntu I would access the Windows XP > installation? But how do I determine the number when no number is given? Yes but with a command prompt, the Recovery Console gives you a command prompt so that you can fix problems with your Windows installation. You, however, only need it to execute one single command: fixmbr. As to the number, start with 1, you can't do any damage, all you need is to get to the DOS command prompt. Those numbers are only needed to tell Recovery Console what OS to load, if you've got one Windows installation and 3-4 Ubuntu's, if you get the number wrong, it won't load Ubuntu but once you get the right number (most likely 1), it will load Windows with the command prompt. Type fixmbr and then reboot into your disc where you have your partition tool[s] waiting. Nikolai From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon Dec 11 00:39:42 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:39:42 -0500 Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> References: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> Message-ID: <200612101939.42333.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Just make sure you check the wiki page on restricted formats so you can install codecs for non open source formats. I tested openSUSE 10.1 last spring when moving from Mandriva and wound up here. Much better. Paul On Sunday 10 December 2006 5:22 pm, Osman Kemal Kadiroglu wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking to move to Ubuntu from Suse10.1. I have a 64bit AMD > computer. There are some problems I have with Suse, like video watching. > Any recommendations or warnings about Ubuntu from the users? > Best Regards > > > Osman Kemal Kadiroğlu > Sc. D. MIT'76 From a-bracmike at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 11 01:49:35 2006 From: a-bracmike at sbcglobal.net (mike williams) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:49:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: how to install .deb files Message-ID: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I want to know how to install cedega.deb which i have located on my desktop.(I also have cedega.rpm if anyone can tell me how to install that if they done know for the .deb.) Anyone out there know how? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sethian at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 11 01:53:12 2006 From: sethian at sympatico.ca (Alexander Duncan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:53:12 -0500 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457CBA08.10405@sympatico.ca> Thanks to everybody for the information regarding removing Ubuntu from my system. I have now succeeded in preparing the MBR and deleting the Linux partition. However, deleting the Linux partition did not result in restoring my original disk space - it is now unallocated. A search of the Help and Support library provided no useful information on reallocating the unallocated disk space back to the remaining partition. Please, how do I do this to complete the process? I will be posting proper instructions on uninstalling Ubuntu once I have completed the process, for others seeking this information. Please reply directly to sethian at sympatico.ca since I only subscribe to the daily digest. Thanks again to all for your help. From steve at laniels.org Mon Dec 11 02:19:24 2006 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:19:24 -0500 Subject: how to install .deb files In-Reply-To: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061211021924.GA28388@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 05:49:35PM -0800, mike williams wrote: > I want to know how to install cedega.deb which i have located on my desktop.(I > also have cedega.rpm if anyone can tell me how to install that if they done > know for the .deb.) Anyone out there know how? You need to run sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb You may get some errors telling you that you need to have other packages installed. If so, you can do sudo apt-get install [list of packages] Cheers, Steve -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From dr.klange at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 02:26:03 2006 From: dr.klange at gmail.com (Kyran Lange) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:56:03 +1030 Subject: how to install .deb files In-Reply-To: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165803963.6125.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 17:49 -0800, mike williams wrote: > I want to know how to install cedega.deb which i have located on my > desktop.(I also have cedega.rpm if anyone can tell me how to install > that if they done know for the .deb.) Anyone out there know how? > > sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From james at gray.net.au Mon Dec 11 02:28:37 2006 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:37 +1100 Subject: opening ports In-Reply-To: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> References: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200612111328.37912.james@gray.net.au> On Monday 11 December 2006 05:48, Bruce wrote: > 1) How would I open ftp ports after doing an apt-get install proftpd? Ports aren't really "open" or "closed" - services either listen on a port or they don't. If a service is listening but blocked by a firewall, it is said to be closed. If it's listening and not blocked (ie allowed), it's open. Having said that, in your case, if proftpd was running and listening on port 21, then your problems lay either with the firewall you are behind, or the router. FTP is an evil protocol that has many traps. Specifically when using passive mode FTP. Basically when a client switches to passive mode, the FTP server (proftpd) sends a special message telling the client what port and IP to reconnect back to. Here's the problem - most firewalls have no idea that the incoming connection from the client to server (passive mode) on the high port is actually part of an existing session, and will block it. If you have control of the firewall, you need to tell it to allow "related" connections. If your firewall is also using NAT, you will need to load the ip_nat_ftp module which looks for the special passive mode packet instantiation messages from the ftp server and automatically inserts the new IP+port in the state table as being "related". So as long as you allow connections that are in a "related" state, you're sitting pretty. If you're using ACTIVE ftp, then you should be ok, as long as you open ports TCP/20+21 on your firewall between the outside world and your FTP server - NAT shouldn't cause any major problems in active mode. > 2) What is the initial port configuration for Dapper Drake and how do we > control the opening and closing of ports for various "apt-get" packages > and for "home brew" code such as perl networking code development? You don't need to. By default, Ubuntu doesn't have any server processes listening on any external ports. As you install, configure, and START new servers (like OpenSSH and ProFTP) you should see them listening like this: netstat -tadln | egrep "^Proto|LISTEN" Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN This is my workstation in the office - CUPS (:631) and Postfix (:25) are listening on the loopback and ssh (:22) is listening on ALL interfaces (0.0.0.0 is the "all interfaces" wildcard). When I did the dump above, there was nothing connected to any of the servers, but here is how it looks when something is connected: netstat -tadln ... tcp 0 0 10.10.10.178:22 10.10.10.183:56476 ESTABLISHED ... My machine's IP is .178 and my laptop is .183. So from the above line, you can see that 10.10.10.183 connected to 10.10.10.178 on port TCP/22. The source port on 10.10.10.183 is 56476. Lots of good info from netstat :) BTW, when you say "sftp" do you mean OpenSSH or FTP over SSL/TLS? Both are relatively slower than unencrypted datastreams but OpenSSH is trivial to setup (only need to open TCP/22 on your firewall) whereas FTP over SSL is just as complex as un-encrypted FTP except it uses TCP/989+990 and also needs an SSL certificate etc. HTH, James -- * TwingyAFK is shopping for 17" flat panel * aav sells TwingyAFK a piece of plywood From dennismouille at yahoo.com Mon Dec 11 04:11:55 2006 From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:11:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Gstreamer - how to install codecs? Message-ID: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I install Gstreamer for multimedia playback. Can anyone tell me how to download the codecs and install? The Mplayer page is to confusing to me. Dennis --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! 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URL: From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Dec 11 06:46:33 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:46:33 +0100 Subject: Ext3 resizing and performance In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457CFEC9.5040203@welcomes-you.com> Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > I find XFS to be extremely fast, but I have suffered some problems in > the past and I wouldn't recommend it for critical environments. Sorry, for jumping this thread, but I'd like to add a few cents here. XFS is great, fast and quite reliable as long as you can ensure that the file system is never ever crashing (or the hardware beneath it). XFS has the top priority to keep the system as is intact, but sacrifices the integrity of single files for that, i.e. after a hard crash, you might find files with one or more 4096 byte blocks with just zeros. This might be ok for you, but most of the time isn't. Lesson learned from that: If you run XFS, use it on good hardware with some failure protection (e.g. ECC memory, RAID-level 1,5,6, etc). Cheers Carsten From geda.mail at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 06:59:42 2006 From: geda.mail at gmail.com (primorec) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:59:42 -0800 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) Message-ID: Hi All, Is there a GUI tool used for stopping/starting/restarting network (ethernet card) ? Igor P.S.: I can do it via command line... but this is __not__ my point. I am building a LINUX box for the hardcore WINDOWS user. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Mon Dec 11 07:10:39 2006 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:10:39 -0800 Subject: laptop HP Pavillion dv6105us (dv600 series) - running live CD 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: primorec wrote: > Hi all, > > I am not able to run ubuntu 6.10 on aptop HP Pavilion dv6105us (dv600 > series). > Two error message appear on the screen: > - error loading firmware for the wireless card (I guess this should not > be fatal) > - can not create/mount file system ( this message is the killer) > > Any hint how to proceed from here ? > > Igor > > P.S.: KNOPPIX 5.01 starts and runs with a flying colors > > Not sure if this applies to the dv6105us, but on the dv9005us, I needed to add the "noapic" option to the kernel boot line. I have not gotten the 64 bit version working properly on it, yet. I am not certain I'll be able to, as the machine is not mine, and I'll lose access to it in another week. The wireless card in the 9005 is a Broadcom 4311. I needed to use ndiswrapper to get it working. I ended up using the latest ndiswrapper, but I'm not certain it was necessary to do so. I don't remember what I was doing wrong, but I finally managed to do it right when I compiled the latest version. It was not something that changed between versions, it was a step I missed, so the older one might work if used correctly. Also, the video card is a Geforce Go 6150. I needed to use the latest driver from the nvidia website to get it to operate properly. The vesa driver was really slow, and used the wrong resolution. The nv driver could be persuaded to get the right resolution, but the colors showed visible banding. The nvidia driver bundled with edgy didn't work with the card, thus compiling the latest was the only way to go. If you have this issue, let me know, and I'll dig up the web site that I used for the nvidia stuff. I believe that it was in the wiki. -Matt From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Dec 11 07:16:16 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:16:16 +0100 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457D05C0.801@welcomes-you.com> primorec wrote: > Is there a GUI tool used for stopping/starting/restarting network > (ethernet card) ? Have you tried to use a program from the network-manager family? $ apt-cache search network-manager knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager network-manager - network management framework daemon network-manager-dev - network management framework (development files) network-manager-gnome - network management framework (GNOME frontend) It's an extremely neat tool, and I wonder how I lived without it. You'll get a small tray icon which allows you to disconnect from a network and reconnect. It also stores the passphrases for wireless networks if wanted. HTH Carsten From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 08:06:46 2006 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:06:46 +0000 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 In-Reply-To: <457CBA08.10405@sympatico.ca> References: <457CBA08.10405@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <457D1196.1090707@manchester.ac.uk> Alexander Duncan wrote: > Thanks to everybody for the information regarding removing Ubuntu from > my system. I have now succeeded in preparing the MBR and deleting the > Linux partition. However, deleting the Linux partition did not result in > restoring my original disk space - it is now unallocated. A search of > the Help and Support library provided no useful information on > reallocating the unallocated disk space back to the remaining partition. > Please, how do I do this to complete the process? You either need to create a new partition in the unallocated space, or resize and/or move some existing partitions. You could boot an Ubuntu Live CD and use gparted or if you have a copy, use the commercial product Partition Magic. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From smccuan at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 08:51:12 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:51:12 -0500 Subject: Looking for application In-Reply-To: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> References: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think there are some websites (or portions of service providers sites) out there that let you text message a cell phone from any standard browser...however, I dont remember any of the names of these sites! :) On 12/10/06, Johnny wrote: > > Hi > > I am looking for a application that I can use with my modem to text > message a cell phone or text message a linux computer that would have the > same application. > Is there any thing out there to do this. > > Johnny > > -- > ******************************* > ******************************* > Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 > Registed Linux user #310190 > Registed Machine #250193 > ******************************* > ******************************* > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Dec 11 09:22:48 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:22:48 -0600 Subject: Looking for application In-Reply-To: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> References: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <457D2368.1080308@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Johnny wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a application that I can use with my modem to text > message a cell phone or text message a linux computer that would have > the same application. > Is there any thing out there to do this. Many times, this is a part of the service; if you know the number of a text-enabled cellphone, go to their web page. It's usually something like "812-4649211 at messaging.cellphone-company.com". Then, it's just an email problem. There are other, more complicated ways to to that; go to Applications->Add/Remove and search for "cellphone" or "text messaging" or possible "SMS". - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfSNn6PLtRzZbdhYRAuoSAJ9AIebSx4/gX03uATs9mHgVnJihCQCggNNq mnrZnxlwaa1aSd9+bWRJx+E= =ENgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Dec 11 09:26:41 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:26:41 -0600 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 primorec wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a GUI tool used for stopping/starting/restarting network (ethernet > card) ? > > Igor > > P.S.: I can do it via command line... but this is __not__ my point. > I am building a LINUX box for the hardcore WINDOWS user. System->Administration->Networking does it for me... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfSRR6PLtRzZbdhYRAqenAJ41m3b5KjfZ7asG8vHiBW8xJ/1z6QCdHm2o SEp8aB+AYCVm/xK9lXoKoys= =b/w+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dave at restall.net Mon Dec 11 09:27:05 2006 From: dave at restall.net (David Restall - System Administrator) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:27:05 +0000 Subject: Looking for application Message-ID: Hi, > I am looking for a application that I can use with my modem to text > message a cell phone or text message a linux computer that would have > the same application. > Is there any thing out there to do this. Have a look at smsclient :- . Regards, Dave ubuntu/users-2006-12-11.tx linuxhamuser at gmail.com ubuntu-users +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4 FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4 FCU | | email : dave at restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Hello?" "Hi baybee" "Are you Johnie Ingram?" "For you I'll be | | anyone" "Ermm.. Do you sell slink CD's?" "I love slinkies" | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alain.muls at telenet.be Mon Dec 11 09:36:59 2006 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:36:59 +0100 Subject: cxoffice menu Message-ID: <200612111037.00148.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi, I installed cxoffice and office but I have no menu entries for starting word or excel. How can I get these entries. I already regenerated the menus using the cxoffice install tool. Tx/Alain From geda.mail at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 09:55:09 2006 From: geda.mail at gmail.com (primorec) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:55:09 -0800 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> References: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: On 12/11/06, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > primorec wrote: > > > > Is there a GUI tool used for stopping/starting/restarting network > (ethernet > > card) ? > > System->Administration->Networking does it for me... > > Yes, I found this ... but ALL I can do there is to check/modify different properties (DNS, name, DHCP/static ... etc). I do not know how to STOP (deactivate) ethernet (wired) connection or/and START/RESTART (activate) it. Can you, please, describe all clickable steps to achieve my goal Thanks Igor - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 11 10:42:35 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:42:35 +0000 Subject: seems to be a week of problems here... Message-ID: <1165833755.5470.10.camel@worldventures> Now I have discovered that a rather old HP Omnibook 6100 is getting so hot running Ubuntu that it crashes (system freeze). The fan never ever kicks in. Once I tried acpi=off on the kernel line and when the laptop got exceptionally hot the fan kicked in! But then I lost CPU stepping and other nifty ACPI things. Is there a setting where I can keep the goodness of ACPI but still let my fan spin when necessary? Many thanks Gabe From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 11 10:43:03 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:43:03 +0000 Subject: Ext3 resizing and performance In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165833783.5470.12.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 23:08 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/10/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Now I am in the Ext3 territory I do have a couple of things that I'd > > like to clear up. > > > > Firstly I am unsure about the -T flag with news, largefile, largefile2 > > being options, which should I choose for best performance on / ? > > This options control different aspects of the filesystem, like the > total number of i-nodes of the filesystem. "news" usage is intended > for a filesystem wil lots of small files (one i-node per 4KB so, for > 4GB volume, you'll get 1M i-nodes). "largefile" is intended for > filesystems with less and larger files than "news" (one i-node per > 1MB, so for a 4GB volume you will get 4096 i-nodes) . "largefile4" is > intended for filesystems with few and very lage files (one i-node per > 4MB, so for a 4GB volume you will get 1024 i-nodes). > > The "-T" flag thus provides simple ways of controlling the number of > i-nodes of the filesystem. For more fine-grained contro, you can use > -N (numer of i-nodes) or -i (ratio of bytes per i-node). > > > More importantly is how do you grow a logical volume ONLINE, without > > first unmounting it when it is using Ext3? > > You can use ext2online. However, ext2online has some limitations that > resize2fs don't. For most of the typical use, ext2online will do fine, > however. > > > What does the "commit" function actually do? I have changed it from 5 > > seconds to 600 on my laptop - will that affect something adversely? > > If my memory serves me well, it dictates the amount of time pdflush > uses to look through the list of dirty blocks in order to write them > back to disk. The longest the interval, the longest it will time for > pdflush to write dirty buffers to disk, increasing the disk of data > loss due to power outages and making the disk idle for longer time. > > > I recently changed all my LVs from ReiserFS to Ext3 formats. I can't > > believe the difference - about 20% increase in performance. GIMP now > > starts in 5 seconds instead of 7 after the computer being freshly > > rebooted. On the whole the computer seems to do a whole lot less > > scratching when firing up applications. I can't say that ReiserFS was > > fragmented, I had a standard desktop install and it was freshly > > installed just 3 weeks ago. > > > > Before changing to Ext3 I gave JFS a whirl and found it to be sllooww. > > Copying a large file took 6 mins as opposed to 4 on Reiser. And just > > starting the computer or applications would result in more-than-required > > HDD thrashing - obviously not a good filesystem for the computer and > > quite perhaps easily fragmented. > > I find XFS to be extremely fast, but I have suffered some problems in > the past and I wouldn't recommend it for critical environments. Thank you kindly for such a detailed response. I do understand what you are saying but have a little difficulty applying to real world scenarios.... Am I right in thinking that -T news is best for a root partition? That -T largefile is best for a drive full of mp3/oggs and -T largefile4 for a drive of movies? Having changed the commit from 5 to 600 am I risking losing my work or my data integrity - what's the reasonable maximum for this figure? I am impressed with ext3 although it doesn't appear to be the best choice in all situations for my desktop use it seems best. Only thing is that it doesn't make good use of the space on my HDD, once you take into account the block slack, the journal size (128mb defaults (on my drive) whereas reiser was 8mb and the huge chunk reserved for super user which I did reduce from 5% to just 2%. Still when usable capacity is cut by several gigabytes before even using it I can't help but feel hard done by. Especially since in the first place HDs are advertised as 100GB but really are only 95GB or whatever. Rant over!! From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 11 10:59:46 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:59:46 +0000 Subject: how to install .deb files In-Reply-To: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165834786.5470.14.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 17:49 -0800, mike williams wrote: > I want to know how to install cedega.deb which i have located on my > desktop.(I also have cedega.rpm if anyone can tell me how to install > that if they done know for the .deb.) Anyone out there know how? > > Right-click on it and select "Install with GDebi" or whatever the thing is called. From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 11 11:06:01 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:06:01 +0000 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: References: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1165835161.5470.18.camel@worldventures> On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 01:55 -0800, primorec wrote: > Yes, I found this ... but ALL I can do there is to check/modify > different properties (DNS, name, DHCP/static ... etc). I do not > know how to STOP (deactivate) ethernet (wired) connection or/and > START/RESTART (activate) it. Can you, please, describe all clickable > steps to achieve my goal > > Thanks > > Igor If you are running Dapper then to the right of the listed network adaptors should be an activate/deactivate button. In Edgy this was changed; now you you will find a little tick-box to the left of each network device listed. Ticking this box or unchecking it will activate/deactivate that particular network device. From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Mon Dec 11 11:09:36 2006 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:09:36 +0000 Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> References: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> Message-ID: Osman Kemal Kadiroglu wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking to move to Ubuntu from Suse10.1. I have a 64bit AMD > computer. There are some problems I have with Suse, like video watching. > Any recommendations or warnings about Ubuntu from the users? > Best Regards (I was using suse 10.1 until recently. I prefer Kubuntu though). keep in mind such things as easyubuntu and automatix http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page and of course, make also use of the ubuntu forums. have fun! -- ac From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Dec 11 11:16:37 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:16:37 +0000 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: References: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <219482c0612110316l44a0d7dvd70f5e9823f9a454@mail.gmail.com> On 11/12/06, primorec wrote: > Yes, I found this ... but ALL I can do there is to check/modify > different properties (DNS, name, DHCP/static ... etc). I do not know how > to STOP (deactivate) ethernet (wired) connection or/and START/RESTART > (activate) it. Can you, please, describe all clickable steps to achieve my > goal If I remember correctly (from my Edgy VM hat I have no deleted to save space) is there not some kind of tick box next to the connection? Unticking it 'deactivates' the connection, ticking it 'activates' it , I think. (Of course 6.06 had those nice simple buttons). I don't actually have Edgy installed at the moment so I can't check right now. But I remember it was some less intuitive interface, I think involving a tick box. _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Mon Dec 11 11:39:57 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:39:57 +0000 Subject: Looking for application In-Reply-To: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> References: <457CDB55.40107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061211113956.GB7235@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (10/12/06 22:15), Johnny wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a application that I can use with my modem to text > message a cell phone or text message a linux computer that would have > the same application. > Is there any thing out there to do this. You may want to checkout smssend To search for applications try: $ apt-cache search sms Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From martin.marcher at openforce.com Mon Dec 11 12:19:07 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:19:07 +0100 Subject: Closing serendipity down Message-ID: <221E7C97-B890-4B87-8F34-A5FAA6F83D84@openforce.com> Hello, I just recreated our company internal blog. Before that (and before going down) it was reachable only by a private IP, now I'd like to have it public - well in a way. I'd like it to have only a login mask and none of the posts should be publicly available, that is until you have an account where you should be able to reach everyting. Anybody knows how to do that or knows a plugin that can do that? thanks martin From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 12:44:58 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:44:58 +0100 Subject: Gstreamer - how to install codecs? In-Reply-To: References: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <457D52CA.2020404@gmail.com> Shawn McCuan wrote: > Try using Automatix.(http://www.getautomatix.com) > > > On 12/10/06, *Dennis Castanos* < dennismouille at yahoo.com > > wrote: > > I install Gstreamer for multimedia playback. Can anyone tell me > how to download the codecs and install? The Mplayer page is to > confusing to me. > Dennis > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small > Business. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Shawn McCuan > smccuan at gmail.com Please dont. Automatix regularly breaks systems badly, and should never be recommended to anyone by anyone. Intructions on installing codecs can be found in the help pages or on the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex Björn Ottervik From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 12:51:08 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:51:08 +0100 Subject: Suse10.1 to Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <1165789327.7353.6.camel@gateway> Message-ID: <457D543C.9080003@gmail.com> ac wrote: > Osman Kemal Kadiroglu wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am thinking to move to Ubuntu from Suse10.1. I have a 64bit AMD >> computer. There are some problems I have with Suse, like video watching. >> Any recommendations or warnings about Ubuntu from the users? >> Best Regards >> > > (I was using suse 10.1 until recently. I prefer Kubuntu though). > > keep in mind such things as > easyubuntu and > > automatix > http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page > > and of course, make also use of the ubuntu forums. > > have fun! > Dont use either, as they frequently break things, and make more of a mess than they did good. Dont recommend them, either. Björn Ottervik From Herve at lucidia.net Mon Dec 11 12:57:07 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:57:07 -0200 Subject: seems to be a week of problems here... In-Reply-To: <1165833755.5470.10.camel@worldventures> References: <1165833755.5470.10.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4413284c0612110457o4fcf12aen6c5aa7ca5d1d05ab@mail.gmail.com> Can you boot normally and try this: echo "on" > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state Please? Hervé. On 12/11/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Now I have discovered that a rather old HP Omnibook 6100 is getting so > hot running Ubuntu that it crashes (system freeze). The fan never ever > kicks in. > Once I tried acpi=off on the kernel line and when the laptop got > exceptionally hot the fan kicked in! But then I lost CPU stepping and > other nifty ACPI things. Is there a setting where I can keep the > goodness of ACPI but still let my fan spin when necessary? > > > Many thanks > Gabe > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Mon Dec 11 12:59:33 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:59:33 -0200 Subject: Gstreamer - how to install codecs? In-Reply-To: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612110459if33ffe7n726cb927c5952a6f@mail.gmail.com> Add the universe and multiverse repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Then use adept_manager to update the lists and look for gstreamer: there should be three sets of codecs: good, bad and ugly. Good luck, Hervé. On 12/11/06, Dennis Castanos wrote: > I install Gstreamer for multimedia playback. Can anyone tell me how to > download the codecs and install? The Mplayer page is to confusing to me. > Dennis > > ________________________________ > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From ogra at ubuntu.com Mon Dec 11 13:04:35 2006 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:04:35 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1165842275.14629.3.camel@edubuntu> hi, Am Samstag, den 09.12.2006, 21:35 -0500 schrieb John Richard Moser: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) yes, huge amounts of LTSP users, mediacenter PC users or people that run ubuntu based routers/firewalls on small HW ... there are many new boards that still require at least 486 comaptibility in the kernel ... ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Mon Dec 11 12:48:34 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:48:34 +0100 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: Closing serendipity down In-Reply-To: <221E7C97-B890-4B87-8F34-A5FAA6F83D84@openforce.com> References: <221E7C97-B890-4B87-8F34-A5FAA6F83D84@openforce.com> Message-ID: Answering myself here, Well it seems that this issue is solved in serendipity-1.1 althoug I don't like using beta software this seems ok, since we are a small company and I consider apache2 stable enough. In the 1.1 version you can simply do basic authentication and the authentication headers will be forwarded to serendipity which makes it quite usable. Only thing is for good admin interface interaction you need to have .htaccess enabled and paste your authentication information there. I'd like it if it could be done in the directory structure but I think after a bit of investigation this should be possible... Reachable from everywhere but still locked down so only people that know the magic word can enter :) hope this helps someone martin Am 11.12.2006 um 13:19 schrieb Martin Marcher: > Hello, > > I just recreated our company internal blog. Before that (and before > going down) it was reachable only by a private IP, now I'd like to > have it public - well in a way. > > I'd like it to have only a login mask and none of the posts should be > publicly available, that is until you have an account where you > should be able to reach everyting. > > Anybody knows how to do that or knows a plugin that can do that? > > thanks > martin > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users > From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 8 18:49:37 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:49:37 -0400 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <87lklitv7a.fsf@spamfence.net> Message-ID: <2noo44-6l5.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Florian Diesch wrote: > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > >> updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, >> and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of >> running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but >> so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. >> >> I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea >> for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to >> "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? > > IMHO changing permissions of /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate is the most > proper way. > It makes sense - if you remove it, it'll just get put back the next time you upgrade the locate package. -- derek From sethian at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 11 13:51:16 2006 From: sethian at sympatico.ca (sethian at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 8:51:16 -0500 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 Message-ID: <20061211135116.MHTA1773.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Thanks for that. I have now resized the partition to the maximum extent using Live CD. I have just one final question. There's a small partition - about 1.46 GB - that Live CD did not allow me to include in the resize of my partition. It is designated unallocated space. Is this something created by Ubuntu or something else and, if the latter, what is it? I will be documenting the remove Ubuntu procedure in detail for the list so that others who have this problem with have a simple, worry free procedure to follow to restore their system, since none of the information sources I consulted were completely satisfactory. Thanks again for all your help. > > From: Tony Arnold > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 03:06:46 EST > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" > CC: sethian at sympatico.ca > Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 > > > > Alexander Duncan wrote: > > Thanks to everybody for the information regarding removing Ubuntu from > > my system. I have now succeeded in preparing the MBR and deleting the > > Linux partition. However, deleting the Linux partition did not result in > > restoring my original disk space - it is now unallocated. A search of > > the Help and Support library provided no useful information on > > reallocating the unallocated disk space back to the remaining partition. > > Please, how do I do this to complete the process? > > You either need to create a new partition in the unallocated space, or > resize and/or move some existing partitions. You could boot an Ubuntu > Live CD and use gparted or if you have a copy, use the commercial > product Partition Magic. > > Regards, > Tony. > -- > Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, > IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. > T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 > E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold > From larry at isp.com Mon Dec 11 14:32:22 2006 From: larry at isp.com (Larry Shields) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:32:22 -0600 Subject: Looking for application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457D6BF6.9010300@isp.com> David Restall - System Administrator wrote: > Hi, > > >> I am looking for a application that I can use with my modem to text >> message a cell phone or text message a linux computer that would have >> the same application. >> Is there any thing out there to do this. >> > > Have a look at smsclient :- . > > Regards, > > > > Dave > ubuntu/users-2006-12-11.tx linuxhamuser at gmail.com ubuntu-users > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4 FCU, Bodger | > | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4 FCU | > | email : dave at restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | "Hello?" "Hi baybee" "Are you Johnie Ingram?" "For you I'll be | > | anyone" "Ermm.. Do you sell slink CD's?" "I love slinkies" | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > *I have text messenging which is an add-on for FIREFOX...Go to the firefox website look for add-ons and search for text messenging... Hope this helps... Larry * -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.06 73 de Larry/wd9esu 30yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 11 14:50:42 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:50:42 +0700 Subject: adsl connection troubles with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <617763.635.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165848642.5343.60.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Hi, I'm in Thailand as well.. And since last week happily connecting through my new ADSL router in Ubuntu. First things first: * Are you connecting by network cable or wireless? You say 'a 4 port adsl router' so that means you connect through a cable right? I'll assume it's cable from here on. * Switch the cables. On some hubs/routers there's one port that's 'uplink' or otherwise not available. Switch the cable that goes into your Ubuntu box from one of the other PC's that you know works. This also rules out anything being wrong with the cable itself. (you never know. :) * Now, Ubuntu uses the EXACT same protocols as Windows for Internet. On Windows, is it picking up things automatically? This is the most common: The router assigns IP addresses automatically. In Windows you can check this by going Start->Control Panel->Networking and then right-clicking your LAN connection and selext 'properties', then double click 'TCP/IP'. It will likely say 'automatically obtain ...' for everything. let me know if it doesn't. * While still on your working windows box, check what network address the windows PC got. This is useful because you can then check that your basic local network works, never mind the internet (yet). So in windows, click 'Start' -> 'Run' then type 'CMD' and click OK. You will get a command prompt. Type 'ipconfig' and note the IP address you see. Chances are this will look something like " 192.168.1.3 " Remember it. * Now back to your Ubuntu box. Ubuntu should work exactly the same, it will also automatically pick up the network address. If you see the network icon in the title bar on the top right hand side (looks like 2 computer monitors), then just click it, a window will pop up. Click the 'Support' tab. It will show the IP address it received (if any). Something like 192.168.x.x usually. Or if you DONT see that icon, Ubuntu has a similar command to Windows 'ipconfig' except that it's called 'ifconfig' with an 'f'. Click 'Applications' -> 'Accessories' -> 'Terminal'. Then type 'ifconfig' . In all that you will see the ip address (if indeed assigned) for your LAN network connection which is usually called 'eth0'. Something like this: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:36:69:C2:E7 inet addr:192.168.1.102 Bcast:192.168.1.255 ...etc. ...... (Lots more stuff before and after this, but from this you can see the IP address the Ubuntu box got, in this case above it's 192.168.1.102. (If you DONT see an IP address but you know that Windows DID get one, then something is wrong with your network (card), chances are Ubuntu is not picking it up properly. If you DO see an IP address then continue: * Next we will check if your local network works or not. Remember your Windows PC address? Let's see if we can reach it. On your Ubuntu box, click System -> Administration -> Network Tools. Then click the 'Ping' tab. In here, fill in the address of your Windows box in 'Network Address' and 'ping' it by clicking the Ping button. If you see a reply then you can rejoice that your network is basically working. Note that you can do it the other way around too, from windows you can ping the Ubuntu address you saw above. Windows however doesn't come with a neat graphical tool so you would need to use the windows command prompt again. (Start->Run->'CMD' ) and then manually type 'ping 192.168.1.102' where the address is the address of your Ubuntu box. * So, did that work so far? If yes then there's no real reason why Internet shouldn't work. If it did NOT work, then it may be a case of your network card not being picked up by Ubuntu properly. In that case most people end up Googling for the brand & model of the network hardware in combination with 'ubuntu' or 'linux' to hunt for a solution. Or they end up replacing the network card altogether with one that 'just works'. Let me know! Cheers, Chanchao (in Chiang Mai) From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 11 14:55:52 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:55:52 +0700 Subject: Booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> References: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> Message-ID: <1165848952.5343.66.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:39 -0800, e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > Cant get the Ubuntu CD (ISO burned by me) to load. Looks > like Windows XP is overriding!! It's not Windows that's overriding, it's your computer that's set to ALWAYS boot from your harddisk, even if a bootable CD is in de CD drive. This is easily changed. Note also that this is not related to Ubuntu, or to Windows. If you were ever to install Windows again from the Windows CD then you would have exactly the same issue, and you would resolve it in exactly the same way, read on: Just after powering up your computer you will see a message that indicates what key to press to get into your 'BIOS'. Usually the 'del' key, of 'F10'.. In my case it's 'F2'. Press it. (You may have to press 'Escape' to see this message. In there you will usually get a menu called 'boot' or 'startup'. In there you have to change the 'boot order' to make sure your CD drive is in the list BEFORE your harddisk. Or in some cases it's not a list, it's just 2 devices you can select to try to boot from in that order. So in that case set your CD drive as the first one, Harddrive as the second one. That's it! Restart with the CD in the drive. Cheers, Chanchao From ken.j.adams at ntlworld.com Mon Dec 11 14:58:40 2006 From: ken.j.adams at ntlworld.com (Ken Adams) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:58:40 +0000 Subject: Bluetooth and Skype Message-ID: <1165849120.7862.4.camel@localhost> I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have a working USGB Bluetooth adaptor that I use to transfer files both ways to my mobile phone. What I what to do is setup my Bluetooth earpiece as a second sound device and use it with Skype. This I already have running in windows XP and is just about the last thing left to port over to Ubuntu. I can see XP being wiped by Christmas if I can get this last bit running. Any help much appreciated Rgds Ken From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 11 15:19:03 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:19:03 +0700 Subject: delete ubuntu In-Reply-To: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <925292.25787.qm@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165850343.5343.73.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:09 -0800, mike mahaffay wrote: > I need to delete the ENTIRE ubuntu OS ( sorry ). How > do I go about it? Actually good that you asked the question, especially if you are running a dual-boot Ubuntu & Windows PC. If it's all Ubuntu then it's easier, just boot the install CD from whichever operating system you want to run and it will offer options to reformat the whole drive. HOWEVER if this is dual-boot, with a windows partition and a bunch of Ubuntu partitions, then keep in mind that the Ubuntu boot manager ('Grub') actually resides in the Ubuntu partition.. So if you remove that then your computer won't boot anymore. :) Nice huh! :) That'll teach ya not to remove Ubuntu! No kidding.. If you want to remove Ubuntu AND also don't want to install another Linux in place of it but get everything back to Windows, then you will need a Windows install Cd to boot from so you can put back the Windows boot record instead of Grub. When you boot from the Windows install CD, it will give you the option to repair things using the Recovery Console.. Once in there, you can use the commands 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot' to restore everything to windows. Then to actually claim your hardisk space back, I suggest booting from the Ubuntu LIVE installer CD and using 'GParted' to remove the Ubuntu partitions, and then 'stretch' your windows partition to make use of the entire drive again. Questions? Cheers, Chanchao From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 11 15:21:11 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:21:11 +0700 Subject: how to install .deb files In-Reply-To: <20061211021924.GA28388@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> References: <20061211014935.59971.qmail@web83201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20061211021924.GA28388@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> Message-ID: <1165850471.5343.75.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 21:19 -0500, Stephen R Laniel wrote: > You need to run > > sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb Alternatively, just double click it. ;-) Cheers, Chanchao From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 15:28:51 2006 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:28:51 +0000 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 In-Reply-To: <20061211135116.MHTA1773.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20061211135116.MHTA1773.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <457D7933.5010604@manchester.ac.uk> Alexander, sethian at sympatico.ca wrote: > Thanks for that. I have now resized the partition to the maximum extent using Live CD. I have just one final question. There's a small partition - about 1.46 GB - that Live CD did not allow me to include in the resize of my partition. It is designated unallocated space. Is this something created by Ubuntu or something else and, if the latter, what is it? Difficult to say. If it is really unallocated space, then you should be able to extend a partition into it. Although the tools on the lice CD tend not to like extending a partition from it's starting end downwards, so that may be the issue. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From custom at freenet.de Mon Dec 11 15:30:38 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:30:38 +0700 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> References: <457B27A0.9050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1165851038.5343.83.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 16:16 -0500, bradhamilton wrote: > Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? > Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be > compiled & run on OS X? Apple is not Free remember? Keep in mind they're EVERY bit as evil in their business practises as Microsoft.. It's really unbelievable what they try to pull AND get away with, only because they're seen as the cute arty underdog.. But it's run from the very same mindset as Microsoft... (lock in, lock in, lock in, sell proprietary hardware, using proprietary formats, sell tunes, make money) Buy one if you must for the coolness factor, no objections on that from me. :) They ARE good at designing stuff. No doubt of course that you can get comparable hardware LOADS cheaper.. And then you're not comparing with the Toshiba's and Sony's of this world, but more in the realms of Acer, HP, Lenovo and loads more Chinese/Taiwanese/Korean brands. But it'll be less stylish, agreed. :) I wonder if you could avoid 'Apple-tax' by not agreeing to the license terms of their OS and get a refund for that? :-) ;-) Cheers, Chanchao From durahman at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 15:54:20 2006 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:54:20 +0700 Subject: Booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1165848952.5343.66.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> References: <1230859913.1165613976585.JavaMail.root@fepweb01> <1165848952.5343.66.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> Message-ID: <1365ade30612110754v9e24c90q12f0881069196d08@mail.gmail.com> Maybe problem is at your ubuntu cd. I have experience almost the same problem whan i try to install pclinuxos (sory, not ubuntu). My computer cannot boot from cd even i have change booting sequence whre cdrom is first. Then i try to burn iso once again with defferent speed of burning. I burn it with 16x speed (i use k3b. Fist disk which cannot boot i burn with speed auto). And boot the computer again using new cd. And it's work. On 11/12/06, Chanchao wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:39 -0800, e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > > > Cant get the Ubuntu CD (ISO burned by me) to load. Looks > > like Windows XP is overriding!! > > It's not Windows that's overriding, it's your computer that's set to > ALWAYS boot from your harddisk, even if a bootable CD is in de CD drive. > > This is easily changed. Note also that this is not related to Ubuntu, > or to Windows. If you were ever to install Windows again from the > Windows CD then you would have exactly the same issue, and you would > resolve it in exactly the same way, read on: > -- Wasalam, Durahman ===================== http://durahman.wordpress.com/ https://durahman.wordpress.com From geda.mail at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 16:07:33 2006 From: geda.mail at gmail.com (primorec) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:07:33 -0800 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: <1165835161.5470.18.camel@worldventures> References: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> <1165835161.5470.18.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: On 12/11/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 01:55 -0800, primorec wrote: > > Yes, I found this ... but ALL I can do there is to check/modify > > different properties (DNS, name, DHCP/static ... etc). I do not [snip] [snip] If you are running Dapper then to the right of the listed network > adaptors should be an activate/deactivate button. In Edgy this was > changed; now you you will find a little tick-box to the left of each > network device listed. Ticking this box or unchecking it will > activate/deactivate that particular network device. Yes that was it... thanks... This is __not__ the most intuitive solution. Activate/deactivate button is a lot better solution. Oooh... well... It is not easy to teach an old dog new tricks. Igor (100% CLI guy) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at Mon Dec 11 16:09:11 2006 From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:09:11 +0100 Subject: C programming environment Message-ID: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Hi, Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for the Ubuntu Hackers Community: Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? I would be very thankful for good hints! TIA Dieter From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com Mon Dec 11 16:10:08 2006 From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:10:08 -0600 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? Message-ID: <20061211101008.46e443ed@WizardsTower> Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs From akram at idontpay.com Mon Dec 11 16:20:40 2006 From: akram at idontpay.com (Akram Mokhtar) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:20:40 -0800 Subject: new bie - Asking about install any tarball Message-ID: <20061211082040.64F8B165@resin01.mta.everyone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diesch at spamfence.net Mon Dec 11 16:24:25 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:24:25 +0100 Subject: updatedb : how to disable its (an)cron job ? In-Reply-To: <2noo44-6l5.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> (Derek Broughton's message of "Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:49:37 -0400") References: <20061207181404.a6b68dd5.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <87lklitv7a.fsf@spamfence.net> <2noo44-6l5.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <87u002mmdi.fsf@spamfence.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Florian Diesch wrote: > >> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: >> >>> updatedb runs once a day, I think triggered by a (ana)cron job, >>> and I would love to disable it, as it always has the bad habit of >>> running when I am using the machine. I do use the "locate" command, but >>> so rarely, that suffering updatedb just isn't worth it. >>> >>> I don't see any GUI in Gnome to manage scheduled jobs (might be an idea >>> for a Feisty+1 spec....), could someone explain to me how to >>> "properly" (ie not changing permissions ;-) disable updatedb's job ? >> >> IMHO changing permissions of /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate is the most >> proper way. >> > It makes sense - if you remove it, it'll just get put back the next time you > upgrade the locate package. And you can see that it's there but disabled, and it's easy to enabble it again. Florian -- From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Dec 11 16:43:23 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:43:23 -0600 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? Message-ID: <20061211104323.7e412e82@WizardsTower> Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From pratap at vmware.com Mon Dec 11 16:58:57 2006 From: pratap at vmware.com (Pratap Subrahmanyam) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:58:57 -0800 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> Message-ID: <457D8E51.7070208@vmware.com> Peter Hummers wrote: > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 > John Richard Moser wrote: > > >> I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I >> think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant >> keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's >> capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a >> processor that can clock 100MHz max. >> > > I'm not much of a tree-hugger, but there are too many computers that still work in our landfills. I'd like to see some support for 486; 386s could still serve files, too, as far as that goes ... > I second this whole heartedly. I still love my P3 500 MHz box. I'd like to see the community continue to focus on performance optimizations even for these older processors. Pratap From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Mon Dec 11 17:01:17 2006 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:01:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? Message-ID: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? > I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. > > Cybe R. Wizard > Its not in there anymore for some reason. I installed the version from opera's website without any problems. Brandon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From martin.marcher at openforce.com Mon Dec 11 17:07:26 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:07:26 +0100 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <383FC739-4868-4E5C-918B-9A1808AC85C4@openforce.com> $EDITOR ddd (or gdb) fprintf(stderr, ....) that's about it :) hth martin Am 11.12.2006 um 17:09 schrieb Dieter Schicker: > Hi, > > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? > > I would be very thankful for good hints! > > TIA > Dieter > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users > From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 17:11:08 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:11:08 +0100 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <457D912C.6000800@gmail.com> Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi, > > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? > > I would be very thankful for good hints! > > TIA > Dieter > > > Geany is quite nice imho, though there are many others. Best bet is to search the repos, round up a few that seemsnice and try them out your self. Björn Ottervik From norman at littletank.org Mon Dec 11 17:22:03 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:22:03 +0000 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165857723.5736.55.camel@localhost> > Good luck, and thanks for bothering to try and fix this yourself before > asking for help, it's surprising how many people don't do that. Further reading suggests that the problem could well be with Gutenprint because there have been a number of changes since the start of this year. There have certainly been 2 changes since Ubuntu 6.06.1 the last of which is the non-beta version. Could someone please advise me if it is possible to backport (I believe that is the correct expression) the final version of Gutenprint to Ubuntu 6.06.1. Norman From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 17:27:07 2006 From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:27:07 +0000 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <457D94EB.60206@manchester.ac.uk> Dieter, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? I'd take a look at Anjuta. Only problem is that the version on Edgy is an Alpha release 2.0.2 and the 1.4 release on Dapper is more stable. I've seen somewhere that someone has made Anjuta 1.4 available for Edgy. But you will need to google this! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk, H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold From marius at pov.lt Mon Dec 11 17:28:07 2006 From: marius at pov.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:28:07 +0200 Subject: Bluetooth and Skype In-Reply-To: <1165849120.7862.4.camel@localhost> References: <1165849120.7862.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061211172807.GA7462@fridge.pov.lt> On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 02:58:40PM +0000, Ken Adams wrote: > I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have a working USGB Bluetooth adaptor that > I use to transfer files both ways to my mobile phone. > > What I what to do is setup my Bluetooth earpiece as a second sound > device and use it with Skype. This I already have running in windows XP > and is just about the last thing left to port over to Ubuntu. I can see > XP being wiped by Christmas if I can get this last bit running. > > Any help much appreciated This worked for me (Sony-Ericsson HBH-30). It might work for you: sudo apt-get install bluez-btsco (You may need to modprobe sco and snd-bt-sco, but I'm pretty sure these get loaded automatically. /usr/share/doc/bluez-btsco/README.gz contains the documentation.) sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart # Without this the bluetooth daemon cannot open a GUI window to # ask for a PIN, IIRC. A minor bug present in Dapper. sudo hciconfig hci0 voice 0x0060 I don't know what this does. The readme I mentioned above said to do it. Now hold down the headset button for 10 seconds to initiate pairing. (The method may be different for your headset, but that's what manuals are for.) hcitool scan Find out the MAC address of the headset. btsco XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX # replace with real MAC address A popup should appear for entering the PIN. My headset wanted 0000. The popup appears only once. Every other time when you want to use the headset, you'll have to run the btsco command after turning the headset on. While btsco is running you have a new audio device. ALSA-using applications like Ekiga should give you a drop-down to choose between with your sound card and the headset. Old-style OSS-using applications can use /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp. Skype 1.3 beta uses ALSA, but I haven't tried to use my headset with Skype yet. The stable 1.2 version uses OSS and you have to choose /dev/dsp1 as the audio devices. It may be a good idea to put this up in the Ubuntu wiki. *searches* Uh, actually, there's already a page there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSkype The instructions are essentially the same. HTH, Marius Gedminas -- Unix is the answer, but only if you phrase the question very carefully. -- Belinda Asbell -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 11 17:30:01 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:30:01 +0100 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <20061211101008.46e443ed@WizardsTower> References: <20061211101008.46e443ed@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <20061211183001.08cdd149.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? > I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. Hmm yes, as far as I understand it, the deals with commercial programs/editors for Dapper, like Opera, where a one of, not a long term/on-going partnership, sadly. -- Vince From jdangler at atlantic.net Mon Dec 11 17:44:42 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:44:42 -0500 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <1165859082.11504.1.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 17:09 +0100, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi, > > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? > > I would be very thankful for good hints! > > TIA > Dieter > > I've always used vi. Although, I'm old school like that. I've seen a few IDE's over the years, but none that really excited me enough to use it. From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 11 17:47:03 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:47:03 +0100 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <20061211184703.42a6cce6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Dieter Schicker wrote: > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? > > I would be very thankful for good hints! >From what I have seen on this list, many swear by emacs (ie, no programming environment ;-) And others use a GUI text editor with some plug-ins. People often refer to "Eclipse". As for me, I just use Gedit to write the source code (it has more and more nice features that help with development), along with a terminal window with 3 tabs: one to compile, another to download the code to the target system (I play with embedded systems not PC/computers), and the last tab to handle the version control system (subversion). Gedit has an "external tools" plugin that could help automate some of the routine operations I do in the terminals, but sadly it's buggy and never "just worked" on my machine, I think a problem with keyboard short cuts. But try it for yourself, chances are it will work just fine on your machine, seeing as I filed the bug a long time ago and nobody else appears to suffer the same problem (just my bad luck then ;-/ ) There is also the "Anjuta" IDE, that you might like to try out. -- Vince From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 18:38:17 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:38:17 +0100 Subject: Panda3d compile on E.E 64 bit. Kubuntu Message-ID: I am trying to get Panda3d to compile on my computer. I have asked what is wrong on their site but no answer yet but that I must be missing a lib. I am doing this on an amd64x2 running E.E. 64 bit Kubuntu. Any ideas here?? Thanks, Douglas makepanda/makepanda.py --everything Checking for MAYA6 Checking for MAYA65 Checking for MAYA7 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Makepanda Initial Status Report Makepanda: Compiler: LINUX Makepanda: Optimize: 3 Makepanda: Keep Pkg: PYTHON ZLIB PNG JPEG TIFF VRPN FMODEX NVIDIACG NSPR OPENSSL FREETYPE FFTW BISON FLEX FFMPEG PANDATOOL PANDAAPP Makepanda: Omit Pkg: MILES MAYA6 MAYA65 MAYA7 MAX6 MAX7 MAX8 DX8 DX9 Makepanda: Verbose vs. Quiet Level: 1 Makepanda: Don't generate API reference manual Makepanda: Version ID: 1.3.0 Makepanda: MAYA6 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-maya6 Makepanda: MAYA65 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-maya65 Makepanda: MAYA7 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-maya7 Makepanda: MAX6 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-max6 Makepanda: MAX7 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-max7 Makepanda: MAX8 not yet supported under linux Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-max8 Makepanda: makepanda currently does not support miles sound system Makepanda: I have automatically added this command-line option: --no-miles ------------------------------------------------------------------- Generating dependencies... g++ -ftemplate-depth-30 -fPIC -c -o built/tmp/dtoolbase_composite1.o -I"/usr/include/python2.5" -Ithirdparty/linux-libs-a/nspr/include -Ibuilt/tmp -Idtool/src/dtoolbase -Ibuilt/include -O2 -DBUILDING_DTOOL dtool/src/dtoolbase/dtoolbase_composite1.cxx dtool/src/dtoolbase/atomicAdjustNsprImpl.I: In static member function 'static void* AtomicAdjustNsprImpl::set_ptr(void*&, void*)': dtool/src/dtoolbase/atomicAdjustNsprImpl.I:75: error: cast from 'void*' to 'PRInt32' loses precision Storing dependency cache. Elapsed Time: 3 sec From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Dec 11 19:04:41 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:04:41 +0100 Subject: Gstreamer - how to install codecs? In-Reply-To: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <746131.79508.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165863881.2891.5.camel@chronic> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 20:11 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > I install Gstreamer for multimedia playback. Can anyone tell me how to > download the codecs and install? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Dec 11 19:19:03 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:19:03 -0600 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> Brandon Blackwell said: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? > > I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. > > > > Cybe R. Wizard > > > Its not in there anymore for some reason. I installed > the version from > opera's website without any problems. > > Brandon > Thanks, Brandon, I've now done the same. Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Dec 11 19:20:30 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:20:30 -0600 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <20061211183001.08cdd149.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061211101008.46e443ed@WizardsTower> <20061211183001.08cdd149.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061211132030.0e13be89@WizardsTower> Vincent Trouilliez said: > "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > > Or do I not have all the repositories enabled? > > I can't seem to find Opera anywhere. > > Hmm yes, as far as I understand it, the deals with commercial > programs/editors for Dapper, like Opera, where a one of, not a long > term/on-going partnership, sadly. > > -- > Vince > What a shame. I've now installed Opera per the kind mail of Brandon Blackwell and gdebi and it works as expected. Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From james at gray.net.au Mon Dec 11 19:22:40 2006 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:22:40 +1100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457B19DD.3070100@gmx.de> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457B19DD.3070100@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 10/12/2006, at 7:17 AM, Gregor Tudan wrote: > Magnus Runesson schrieb: >> I am thinking about buying a notebook/laptop and only run Ubuntu >> on it. >> One of my choices is a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo. >> (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html ) >> >> I read Matt Galvins blogg today >> (http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=11 ) and was >> positively surprised. >> >> Would I be crazy if I buy a MacBook or is it a good idea? >> >> The Macbook is not more expensive than comparable clean PC-laptops. >> One of the PC-laptops I have looked at is MSI S271 >> http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/notebook/nb/ >> pro_nb_selling.php?UID=622 >> >> > I guess we all agree that MacBooks are quite powerfull but you pay > mainly for "the package" of OS, Design and Hardware. You could > probably > get a more compatible or even more powerfull Notebook to a much lower > price. Still, there is a certain coolness factor, that comes with > apple-products ;-) Gah - the "Macs are expensive" myth. Go and find a non-Mac lappy with Intel Core2 >= 2GHz, and a comparable mix of built in extras (dedicated video card and video RAM - on the Pro models, wifi, ethernet, firewire, DVD+/-RW, bluetooth, webcam, etc, etc) and then compare it to a MacBook or MacBook Pro. Macs are not particularly expensive, but they are damned cool and come with one of the most useable and mature desktop operating systems in the world (OSX). Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and use it all the time (I have Ubuntu on my workstation at work) but all Macs have one unique characteristic - the ability to run OSX and be supported. If you don't want or need that, then why bother struggling with Linux (or even Windows) on a Mac? Just buy a Mac, use OSX and be happy - I sure am :) Cheers, James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2426 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lsof at nodata.co.uk Mon Dec 11 19:43:01 2006 From: lsof at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:43:01 +0100 Subject: opening ports In-Reply-To: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> References: <457C568E.20903@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1165866181.3089.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Sonntag, den 10.12.2006, 13:48 -0500 schrieb Bruce: [snip] > work). The slower transfers of sftp are annoying on large files (3GB - > 4GB) so I have never been happy with sftp. [snip] Did you try scp? It's faster. From gcvisel at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 19:42:57 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:57 -0600 Subject: Default Display Manager? Message-ID: <76800d9c0612111142p7cefc276mffbef7924d6fd09d@mail.gmail.com> I downloaded Edgy and Kubuntu, but do not like the KDM interface as well as the original GDM. Is there a way to delete KDM(?) and load GDM by default? Thanks, Gerry From garryknight at gmx.net Mon Dec 11 19:50:06 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:50:06 +0000 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 70 References: <457CBA08.10405@sympatico.ca> <457D1196.1090707@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: Tony Arnold wrote: > You either need to create a new partition in the unallocated space, or > resize and/or move some existing partitions. You could boot an Ubuntu > Live CD and use gparted or if you have a copy, use the commercial > product Partition Magic. What might suit the OP better is to use gparted to format the ex-Ubuntu partition as NTFS then delete that partition so that the original WinXP partition takes up the whole of the disk, as it did before Ubuntu was installed. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From davidbteague at verizon.net Mon Dec 11 20:10:38 2006 From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:10:38 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <143f0f6c0612091707o55d6511dsb74dd215b8c00ae5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457B3D8F.8050600@verizon.net> <143f0f6c0612091707o55d6511dsb74dd215b8c00ae5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457DBB3E.5080408@verizon.net> Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On 12/9/06, David B Teague wrote: > >> Apple is a religion, and in that religion, I am an atheist. (I >> recognize I may be "cutting my nose off to spite my face" as my mother >> used to call it. I hate Apple Computer. ) >> >> I spent $3000 in 1981 dollars for an Apple II+. They came out with the >> IIe in 1982. Had I bought the IIe, I could have continued to use of >> about 1/3 of the hardware (Disk II floppy drives and monitor) and they >> added salt to the wound by making ALL software they released after the >> IIe run ONLY on the IIe and IIc. I found a 3rd party 80 column video >> board and upper/lower case keyboard. I went out of my way to find hacks >> for the software to use it on my II+ and I have not bought anything >> from Apple since. >> > > So let me see if I understand... You're upset about the transition > from one machine to another in an antiquated and long discontinued > line 25 years ago when there was *no* organisation or any such thing > as "standards" in the personal computing world? > > Hold many grudges? > > Only the one against Apple. I had nothing and I still have most of it. Oh I forgot about my grudge against all things Microsoft. DBT From rpowersau at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 20:34:35 2006 From: rpowersau at gmail.com (rpowersau at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:34:35 -0500 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <476484250612111234v6e6034cv53dee218dcc7bbfc@mail.gmail.com> On 12/11/06, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Hi, > > Haven't done much C in the last years. That's why I got a question for > the Ubuntu Hackers Community: > > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? If you use kde try kdevelop. > > I would be very thankful for good hints! > > TIA > Dieter > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Regards, Russ From brian.mckee at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 20:34:59 2006 From: brian.mckee at gmail.com (Brian McKee) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:34:59 -0500 Subject: new bie - Asking about install any tarball In-Reply-To: <20061211082040.64F8B165@resin01.mta.everyone.net> References: <20061211082040.64F8B165@resin01.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: On 11/12/06, Akram Mokhtar wrote: > hello , > i'm new bie for ubuntu ,i wish i get started in linux world , > i'd like to help too in issue i might know ,also i need to know how to > install any tarball , please i need it in examples > > also i wanna use kismet and aircrack for checking my security in my wirless > network at work and at home too ,thanks in advance Hi First thing you need to learn is how to use Synaptic. With Ubuntu almost every piece of software you want is available thru Synaptic. You don't usually mess with tarballs at all. Take a look at http://www.beginningubuntu.com/software_8.html or http://www.debianadmin.com/simple-package-management-with-synaptic-package-manager-in-ubuntu.html or the built in help. Try installing aircrack and kismet that way - if you have any problems by all means ask. Now, if you really need to use a tarball, open it up and read the included README and/or INSTALL files - they normally tell you most of what you need to know. You will also need to install build-essentials and maybe some other stuff first..... thru Synaptic of course :-) Does that help? Brian From helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net Mon Dec 11 09:24:12 2006 From: helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net (helen johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:24:12 -0500 Subject: freezing up Message-ID: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> hi, could anyone tell me what to do to stop the freezing up? I am running ubuntu Linux mint edgy 6.10 on a hp pavilion, a 264 w, with amd athalon xp,..but it happens with all the Linux distros I load up! and it takes time after time trying, to install Linux! please help?? From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 21:28:24 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:28:24 +0000 Subject: freezing up In-Reply-To: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> References: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> Message-ID: <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> On 11/12/06, helen johnson wrote: > > hi, could anyone tell me what to do to stop the freezing up? > I am running ubuntu Linux mint edgy 6.10 on a hp pavilion, a 264 w, with > amd athalon xp,..but it happens with all the Linux distros I load up! > and it takes time after time trying, to install Linux! please help?? > When you say "freezing up" is there no response at all from the machine. Do the keyboard lights work, for example, after the machine has locked? Is there anything in the syslog? What are your boot parameters? ACPI enabled or not? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas at schildbach.de Mon Dec 11 22:05:45 2006 From: andreas at schildbach.de (Andreas Schildbach) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:05:45 +0100 Subject: Binary Package for xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting? Message-ID: Hello everyone, The package xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting is available in Feisty Universe since some time, however a binary package has not been built yet. Will it be built? What is causing the delay? Regards, Andreas From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Dec 11 21:37:10 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:37:10 -0800 Subject: C programming environment References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <87odqam7w9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Dieter Schicker writes: > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? emacs. But then again, I just read an interesting snipped from "The Pragramtic Programmer" (Hunt, Thomas) where they mention that you should just pick one editor and master it (tip 22) -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Dec 11 21:32:21 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:32:21 -0800 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> You could always add the opera repository to your sources.list: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From elitepenguin at gmx.net Mon Dec 11 22:31:32 2006 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:31:32 +0100 Subject: Edgy on a Dell Dimension 9150 Message-ID: <2f30da460612111431s5d3dfc47o64cc35c05e847226@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Just setup Edgy on my Dimension 9150 with Beryl and it works like a dream. However, installation was not so easy i had to fix some thing manually: xorg.conf - change 'ati' to 'radeon' driver sound - add "options snd-hda-intel model=ref" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base For me this was quite easy, but think of somebody who has no idea about Linux.. Also gnome-terminal makes me crazy, because it uses alt-b, alt-f for the menu (in bash this is normally used to jump one word forward or back) How can I disable this and get alt-b/f working again? Nils From ttiger at lineone.net Mon Dec 11 22:41:35 2006 From: ttiger at lineone.net (Tony) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:41:35 -0000 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net Message-ID: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Mon Dec 11 22:43:52 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:43:52 +0100 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: <1165857723.5736.55.camel@localhost> References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> <1165857723.5736.55.camel@localhost> Message-ID: I really suggest you get in touch with the gimp users list. They'd be far more able to help you with what sounds like quite a specific problem. But here's a link to getting started with backports: https://launchpad.net/projects/ubp Duncan From stude.list at googlemail.com Mon Dec 11 23:05:10 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:05:10 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0612111505y9eaa8a6ofd6481b6efe95afe@mail.gmail.com> On 11/12/06, Tony wrote: > http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 I wouldn't really bother reading it, the only decent parts are the pictures. He complains that the alpha crashed, what an idiot. Do these people not understand that testing releases often have issues with them? I wonder if he reported the bugs, anyone seen any bugs filed by 'Adrian Kingsley-Hughes'? Just what we need more 'IT Journalists' who don't know IT. _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 11 23:06:41 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:06:41 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061212000641.dd317e60.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Tony" wrote: > http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 I don't understand these supposedly technical/in-the-know writers/journalists who dare to complain that things crash, when they are testing an AL-PHA release ! Hell, they could have a point if they tested the RC released, but hell, an alpha ! It really drives me mad... Did they complain about the state of Windows Vista 4 years ago when it was alpha ? Grrrr.... -- Vince PS: I am CCing the thread to the sounder list, as it doesn't belong here in -users... enough traffic already ! From jared.buck at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 23:22:29 2006 From: jared.buck at gmail.com (Jared Buck) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:22:29 -0800 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net In-Reply-To: <219482c0612111505y9eaa8a6ofd6481b6efe95afe@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0612111505y9eaa8a6ofd6481b6efe95afe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeez. People ought to know alphas are not representative of what the final program is gonna be. If you don't want to deal with bugs, don't test them, it's that simple. Jared On 12/11/06, Andy wrote: > On 11/12/06, Tony wrote: > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 > > I wouldn't really bother reading it, the only decent parts are the pictures. > > He complains that the alpha crashed, what an idiot. Do these people > not understand that testing releases often have issues with them? > > I wonder if he reported the bugs, anyone seen any bugs filed by > 'Adrian Kingsley-Hughes'? > > Just what we need more 'IT Journalists' who don't know IT. > > _ Andy > > > -- > Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? > Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From bradhamilton at comcast.net Mon Dec 11 23:31:55 2006 From: bradhamilton at comcast.net (bradhamilton) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:31:55 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? Message-ID: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> >From: Chanchao >Subject: Re: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? >> > Just curious - why run Ubuntu on a Mac platform, instead of OS X? >> > Is there something you need in Ubuntu, that isn't available/can't be >> > compiled & run on OS X? > > Apple is not Free remember? Keep in mind they're EVERY bit as evil in > their business practises as Microsoft.. It's really unbelievable what > they try to pull AND get away with, only because they're seen as the > cute arty underdog.. But it's run from the very same mindset as > Microsoft... (lock in, lock in, lock in, sell proprietary hardware, > using proprietary formats, sell tunes, make money) I'd much rather run OS X than Windows, wouldn't you? :-) Has nothing to do with "artiness", and much to do with BSD-compatibility, and (generally) fewer virii/worms etc. In general, you don't need to compile in the extra "bits" of stuff you "need" that a "base" distro of Ubuntu/Debian/SuSe/RH etc. may not offer; and if you feel comfortable with UN*X, then adding in stuff under the X development environment in OS X is not difficult. I don't have a Mac platform right now, (only an HP laptop) so that's why I use (and like) Ubuntu. My next laptop will be (most likely) a Mac platform with OS X, unless hardware/software reliability goes downhill; it's all just a matter of convenience (to me). If you buy a non-Mac platform, it's generally hard to avoid the "Windows tax", so what's the difference between the "Windows tax" and the "OS X tax"? [...] From ljpino at grm.net Mon Dec 11 23:40:14 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:40:14 -0600 Subject: freezing up In-Reply-To: <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457DEC5E.5080202@grm.net> Steve Flynn wrote: > On 11/12/06, *helen johnson* > wrote: > > hi, could anyone tell me what to do to stop the freezing up? > I am running ubuntu Linux mint edgy 6.10 on a hp pavilion, a 264 > w, with > amd athalon xp,..but it happens with all the Linux distros I load up! > and it takes time after time trying, to install Linux! please help?? > > > When you say "freezing up" is there no response at all from the > machine. Do the keyboard lights work, for example, after the machine > has locked? > > Is there anything in the syslog? > What are your boot parameters? ACPI enabled or not? > > -- > Steve > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... Also, when does it freeze up? If you have a problematic video card, even your choice of screensaver could be causing you trouble. It will take a little more info for people to help. ~Lorin From qt4x11 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 23:55:06 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:55:06 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade Message-ID: I tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy. The upgrade seems only partly successful. When I reboot after the upgrade, I'm not able to run update-manager. I get: Quote: root at localhost:/home/user# update-manager Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", line 59, in ? import dbus File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? from _dbus import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? from proxies import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? import introspect_parser File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2 File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2mod ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache I followed this guide when upgrading. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades I tried gksu "update-manager -c" to upgrade first - but it did not seem to work. When I rebooted I was still in dapper. I then tried the apt-get upgrade method on this page. It seems to have worked partly. Quote: root at localhost:/home/user# lsb_release -r Release: 6.10 but I still get the update-manager problem, and I'm not sure what else may be broken. Anyone else experience this problem? I have already tried reinstalling ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop. It tells me that these packages are already upgraded to the latest version. I have also tried reinstalling update-manager with synaptic. It tells me I need also reinstall ubuntu-desktop. I remove and reinstall ubuntu-desktop, then I attempt to reinstall update-manager. When I try to reinstall update-manager I get an error: Quote: E: update-manager: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Mon Dec 11 23:56:01 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:56:01 -0500 Subject: Binary Package for xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457DF011.2040609@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Schildbach wrote: > The package xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting is available in Feisty > Universe since some time, however a binary package has not been built > yet. Will it be built? What is causing the delay? See https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/284067 Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFffARe9GwFciKvaMRAsIZAKCbjOQjmdcsf2GNWPbWopTrjJupPwCfRn0R bLeD5LqgHFouqeUXdQSYL8U= =g5vn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net Mon Dec 11 17:56:03 2006 From: helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net (helen johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:56:03 -0500 Subject: freezing up In-Reply-To: <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165859763.5050.16.camel@toby-desktop> On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 21:28 +0000, Steve Flynn wrote: > On 11/12/06, helen johnson wrote: > hi, could anyone tell me what to do to stop the freezing up? > I am running ubuntu Linux mint edgy 6.10 on a hp pavilion, a > 264 w, with > amd athalon xp,..but it happens with all the Linux distros I > load up! > and it takes time after time trying, to install Linux! please > help?? > > When you say "freezing up" is there no response at all from the > machine. Do the keyboard lights work, for example, after the machine > has locked? > > Is there anything in the syslog? > What are your boot parameters? ACPI enabled or not? > > -- > Steve thank you for ur kind reply steve" well to be right honest > with you I am computer dumb, and dont realy understand what acpi > means,...when it dose this,freez up i mean, it just sits there with > what ever i was doing on it,like the web site still open! just like a > still frame picture" mouse curser wont move" key bord dead", only > thing to do is reach over and push the on/off button, and let it > reboot,...and sometimes it will last for a while and die again! > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... From superbiskit at cox.net Tue Dec 12 00:14:30 2006 From: superbiskit at cox.net (David A. Cobb) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:14:30 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. Message-ID: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> Running: "edgy" with kernel 2.6.17, msi mainboard with nVidia subsystems. I went to the nVidia site recently, looking for clues about why I don't get any sound. They've dropped their own "NVSOUND" driver and they claim I should use "intel8x0.c" There is such a thing in the kernel source tree, but no driver in /lib/modules answers to 'intel8*' on the other hand, there is a module "sound/pci/ac97" OK, I figure I'm real smart so I do a "# modprobe ac97" which appears to work. Also, recalling what nVidia used to require, I put a /etc/modprobe.d/soundcard-ac97 with "alias sound-card-0 ac97" My machine remains as silent as ever. SO, am I using the right driver, or do I need to compile in the "intel8x0". And, while we're at it, if someone can advise what udev configuration statements I need to assign the /dev/dsp* names to the appropriate node numbers, that would be nice too. TIA, -- David A. Cobb From nixternal at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 12 00:16:01 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:16:01 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612111816.05352.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Monday 11 December 2006 16:41, Tony wrote: | http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 Wow, they actually talk about something other than Microsoft or Apple over there. I wonder if Microsoft and Apple will pull their elaborate sponsorships now, especially Microsoft since he didn't talk about SuSE (OK cheap shot I know). Hey, a beta product is broke, and the first pre-alpha/alpha release there is. Yet they don't complain about MS crashes. Chalk ZDnet up for yet another site to sling into /dev/null (it joins /., Digg, Groklaw, and more) Also, note, I am moving this over to Sounder (ubuntu-sounder at lists.ubuntu.com) if you would like to discuss this further. Ubuntu-users if for tech support. Thanks guys! Good find by the way Tony. -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nixternal at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 12 00:17:11 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:17:11 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612111817.11902.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Monday 11 December 2006 16:41, Tony wrote: | http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182 OK, moving it for real this time. Sorry for the double post, as a reply would still hit the To: and not the CC:, so I reversed um ;p -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From phummers at iname.com Tue Dec 12 00:18:44 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:18:44 -0500 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <20061211132030.0e13be89@WizardsTower> References: <20061211101008.46e443ed@WizardsTower> <20061211183001.08cdd149.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061211132030.0e13be89@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <20061211191844.cecd88d3.phummers@iname.com> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:20:30 -0600 "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > What a shame. I've now installed Opera per the kind mail of Brandon > Blackwell and gdebi and it works as expected. Opera may be proprietary (free, while not Open Source), but it is an _excellent_ browser. -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From samjnaa at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 00:20:16 2006 From: samjnaa at gmail.com (Shriramana Sharma) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:50:16 +0530 Subject: Unable to restore Windows boot sector using dd In-Reply-To: <20061208201927.313db84e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <75062f40612072210v457a16bj2841cba4f9843624@mail.gmail.com> <20061208201927.313db84e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <457DF5C0.6010807@gmail.com> Thanks to all who replied. Shriramana. From phummers at iname.com Tue Dec 12 00:23:03 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:23:03 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> References: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20061211192303.5e3d08eb.phummers@iname.com> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:31:55 -0500 bradhamilton wrote: > I'd much rather run OS X than Windows, wouldn't you? :-) You don't have to run either. That's why I'm here ... -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From vramnum10 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 00:45:52 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:45:52 -0800 Subject: Gui password Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612111645k19cfa99as852b47592f52ac6a@mail.gmail.com> HI How do I change the GUI password..? If I change my password in a terminal screen it only changes the text login stuff... Hope this makes sense TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Dec 12 00:55:02 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:55:02 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. In-Reply-To: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> Message-ID: <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David A. Cobb wrote: > "sound/pci/ac97" OK, I figure I'm real smart so I do a "# modprobe > ac97" which appears to work. Also, recalling what nVidia used to Barking up the wrong tree here. > SO, am I using the right driver, or do I need to compile in the "intel8x0". We already compile and provide snd-intel8x0.ko and snd-ac97-codec.ko (among a host of prerequisite ALSA kernel modules) in the various linux-image-2.6.foo packages. > And, while we're at it, if someone can advise what udev configuration > statements I need to assign the /dev/dsp* names to the appropriate node > numbers, that would be nice too. You wouldn't touch udev, actually. Essentially, if snd_intel8x0 is loaded, is selected as the default sound driver, and is detected and shown properly with ``asoundconf list'', then the real issue is a mixer level [elements] one, i.e., "your volumes are not set properly." Look at the output from ``amixer''. Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFff3me9GwFciKvaMRAj6HAKDCQtax34EI2YQcmkmHFaP1/OJ+mwCgg7Ww WmMTwRQEQKd4oBhvotkmGaw= =mS3q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From durahman at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 01:35:12 2006 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:35:12 +0700 Subject: Gui password In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0612111645k19cfa99as852b47592f52ac6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0612111645k19cfa99as852b47592f52ac6a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1365ade30612111735p755de118sf200549f8e75382a@mail.gmail.com> system--preference--about me. You can change your passowrd there. On 12/12/06, User Iam wrote: > HI > > How do I change the GUI password..? > > If I change my password in a terminal screen it only changes the text login > stuff... > > From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Tue Dec 12 01:37:16 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:37:16 -0800 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? In-Reply-To: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Hello, > > Yesterday I wanted to try OpenSuse 10.2 that'a just been released. > No no, no intent to cheat on Ubuntu officer, honnest, just meant to > look at the competition to see where we stand. > > In VMware it hung, so I tried in Qemu. > I have never used Qemu before, but the latest version was in Edgy so I > installed painlessly. Suse installed fine from the DVD ISO, but it was > sooooo slow (took about 4 hours, no kidding). > > I went to the Qemu website: > > http://www.qemu.org/kqemu-doc.html > > and gathered that there is kernel module, called "Kqemu" one must use to > accelerate significantly Qemu and make it eventually useful. > I didn't find that Kqemu thing in the Ubuntu repos, so I followed the > instructions given on the above link. > I downloaded it, compiled, loaded it by hand ("sudo modprobe kqemu"), > tripled checked that /dev/kqemu existed, that is was loaded in memory > (I used lsmod), and I start Qemu as root to avoid any permission > problem on the module, as mentioned on the site. > > Then I start Qemu, hoping for the best... and quickly disappointed, > Suse runs so slow that it hardly can respond to mouse input properly. > > I went to the Ubuntu Wiki, but didn't find any Edgy specific/relevant > Howto, only obsolete stuff. > > So if anyone has managed to get Kqemu working on Edgy, I would > gratefully receive your guidance... :-) > > > regards, > > > -- > Vince I was disappointed with the performance of Qemu running Win2K on Edgy, even after install the accelerator, that I moved it under VMWare and it was quite OK. I'm interested in trying a couple of the other emulators too for comparison. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 12 02:06:51 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:06:51 +1100 Subject: Edgy on a Dell Dimension 9150 In-Reply-To: <2f30da460612111431s5d3dfc47o64cc35c05e847226@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f30da460612111431s5d3dfc47o64cc35c05e847226@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061212130651.453ce04a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:31:32 +0100 Nils wrote: > Also gnome-terminal makes me crazy, because it uses alt-b, alt-f for > the menu (in bash this is normally used to jump one word forward or > back) How can I disable this and get alt-b/f working again? Interesting. Here alt-b and alt-f move one word forward and back, which is the expected behaviour - and they do not seem to be used for the menu. This is the 6.06 Dapper version of gnome-terminal ... Aha! If the menu bar is showing, alt-b and alt-f do indeed open menus: I just tried this, because I normally have the menu bar hidden. With the menu bar hidden, alt-b and alt-f work as you want them to work! So - try right-click in gnome-trerminal, and un-check "Show Menubar" - see if that helps. Personally, I generally prefer to use urxvt ( from the rxvt-unicode package) . It starts faster and uses less resources, and is UTF-8 compatible. I have an alias for urxvt that starts it with my preferred options. Peter Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 12 02:26:46 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:26:46 +1100 Subject: Default Display Manager? In-Reply-To: <76800d9c0612111142p7cefc276mffbef7924d6fd09d@mail.gmail.com> References: <76800d9c0612111142p7cefc276mffbef7924d6fd09d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061212132646.cda67107.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:57 -0600 "Gerry Visel" wrote: > I downloaded Edgy and Kubuntu, but do not like the KDM interface as > well as the original GDM. Is there a way to delete KDM(?) and load > GDM by default? > I'm not quite clear whether you mean that you have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed. If you do, there should be (at least on Dapper 6.06) a file "/etc/X11/default-display-manager" If you have kdm running by default it will contain /usr/bin/kdm . If you change this to /usr/sbin/gdm , then gdm will start instead of kdm. A quick way to change it is to type in a terminal echo "/usr/sbin/gdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager I seem to recall you can achieve the same thing by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm or kdm - but I can never remember which one ;-) You could try that way if you wish. Of course, if you want gdm and it is not yet installed, you need to install it first ... but that's obvious I suppose ! Peter From santiago.erquicia at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 02:53:33 2006 From: santiago.erquicia at gmail.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:53:33 -0300 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <94ccba8e0612111853p65dceb87pf707a224f22b13b4@mail.gmail.com> 2006/12/11, John L Fjellstad : > You could always add the opera repository to your sources.list: > > deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free > You can also add the dapper proprietary repository. It works fine. Santiago From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Tue Dec 12 03:15:51 2006 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:15:51 -0800 Subject: laptop HP Pavillion dv6105us (dv600 series) - running live CD 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: primorec wrote: > > > On 12/10/06, *Matthew Kuiken* > wrote: > > primorec wrote: > > > > I am not able to run ubuntu 6.10 on aptop HP Pavilion dv6105us (dv600 > > series). > > Two error message appear on the screen: > > - error loading firmware for the wireless card (I guess this > should not > > be fatal) > > - can not create/mount file system ( this message is the killer) > > > [snip][snip] > > > Not sure if this applies to the dv6105us, but on the dv9005us, I needed > to add the "noapic" option to the kernel boot line. > > > where/how to add this 'noapic' line ? > > Igor > I believe that the key was F6. As the CD boots up, there is a line at the bottom of the startup display that lists the keys, and I think the one to use is labeled Other Options. I'm pretty sure that F6 is that key. Assuming that to be the case, press F6 while the Start or Install Ubuntu line is selected, and you will be able to edit the boot line. Just add noapic to the end of the line. -Matt From doug_rintoul at sil.org Tue Dec 12 03:19:47 2006 From: doug_rintoul at sil.org (Doug Rintoul) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:19:47 -0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457B19DD.3070100@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 06:22 +1100, James Gray wrote: > Gah - the "Macs are expensive" myth. Go and find a non-Mac lappy > with Intel Core2 >= 2GHz, and a comparable mix of built in extras > (dedicated video card and video RAM - on the Pro models, wifi, > ethernet, firewire, DVD+/-RW, bluetooth, webcam, etc, etc) and then > compare it to a MacBook or MacBook Pro. Macs are not particularly > expensive, but they are damned cool and come with one of the most > useable and mature desktop operating systems in the world (OSX). > Gah, the myth that "Macs are the same price as an equivalently equipped PC". I wish that were the case because I would have jumped on it a flash. I just bought a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a 17" screen, Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.13GHz, 2 gigs of memory, firewire, 120 gig HD, 256 MB ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 HyperMemory, DVD-RW for $1608 CDN, including free shipping (but before taxes). The cheapest price for the MacBook Pro with a smaller screen and half the memory was $2199 CDN. The only thing the MacBook Pro had hardware-wise over the Dell was bluetooth and the webcam, neither of which was important or useful to me. Fit and finish might have been better on the Mac, but I have bought Dells in the past which have just kept on going and I have also bought a Mac PowerBook where the hinges broke after three years and would have cost $200+ for repairs if I had not resorted to epoxy. Doug. From yaocharlesc at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 03:35:09 2006 From: yaocharlesc at gmail.com (Charles Yao) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:35:09 +0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457B19DD.3070100@gmx.de> <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457E236D.5080000@gmail.com> > Gah, the myth that "Macs are the same price as an equivalently equipped > PC". I wish that were the case because I would have jumped on it a > flash. I just bought a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a 17" screen, Intel Core > 2 Duo @ 2.13GHz, 2 gigs of memory, firewire, 120 gig HD, 256 MB ATI > Radeon Mobility X1400 HyperMemory, DVD-RW for $1608 CDN, including free > shipping (but before taxes). The cheapest price for the MacBook Pro > with a smaller screen and half the memory was $2199 CDN. The only thing > the MacBook Pro had hardware-wise over the Dell was bluetooth and the > webcam, neither of which was important or useful to me. Fit and finish > might have been better on the Mac, but I have bought Dells in the past > which have just kept on going and I have also bought a Mac PowerBook > where the hinges broke after three years and would have cost $200+ for > repairs if I had not resorted to epoxy. > > Doug. > All depends on what you need and want. From menachem.shapiro at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 04:16:49 2006 From: menachem.shapiro at gmail.com (Menachem Shapiro) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:16:49 -0800 Subject: digikam won't let me delete files - "could not rename file ..." Message-ID: <679cb3d0612112016r3448db1v6c021111045d09e1@mail.gmail.com> B"H Hello I installed digikam (as well as a bunch of related packages) to my computer running Ubuntu Edgy. When I try to delete a file, I get an error saying "could not rename file FILENAME" (where FILENAME is the name of the file). By default the permissions for the file are 644, but even changing them to 777 made no difference. What could be preventing the program from deleting the pictures? Does KDE and GNOME use a different trash can system (which would prevent digikam, a QT program, from deleting a file on a Gnome system)? Thanks, Menachem From dhull at digitaloverload.net Tue Dec 12 04:23:54 2006 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:23:54 -0900 Subject: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 3D support Message-ID: <457E2EDA.2070105@digitaloverload.net> I've searched all over the net for a fix and I can't figure this one out. Here's what I've got. 1. Ubuntu Dapper 2. Xorg version 7 ( according to "X -version" ) 3. IBM ThinkPad T42 1. ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 I tried to follow these instructions on the Ubuntu forum but they don't work. * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32015 * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119487 Part of the instructions include running "driconf". I installed it but when I run it it says something about no "radeon" driver or that it doesn't allow configuration. That last link says something about Xorg version 6.9. I've got Xorg version 7.0. I don't want to go backwards here. I'm hoping someone on the list has a fix for this. Again, the above instructions didn't work for me. From gcvisel at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 05:00:06 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:00:06 -0600 Subject: Default Display Manager? In-Reply-To: <20061212132646.cda67107.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <76800d9c0612111142p7cefc276mffbef7924d6fd09d@mail.gmail.com> <20061212132646.cda67107.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1165899606.5180.2.camel@Wind> Thanks, Peter! That worked fine except... I get a dialog box that pops up at the end of login that says "Failed to initialize HAL." Who is HAL, and why does he need initials in my computer? ;-) Gerry On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:26 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:57 -0600 > "Gerry Visel" wrote: > > > I downloaded Edgy and Kubuntu, but do not like the KDM interface as > > well as the original GDM. Is there a way to delete KDM(?) and load > > GDM by default? > > > I'm not quite clear whether you mean that you have both ubuntu-desktop and > kubuntu-desktop installed. If you do, there should be (at least on Dapper > 6.06) a file "/etc/X11/default-display-manager" > > If you have kdm running by default it will contain /usr/bin/kdm . If > you change this to /usr/sbin/gdm , then gdm will start instead of kdm. A > quick way to change it is to type in a terminal > > echo "/usr/sbin/gdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager > > I seem to recall you can achieve the same thing by running > > sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm or kdm > > - but I can never remember which one ;-) > You could try that way if you wish. Of course, if you want gdm and it is > not yet installed, you need to install it first ... but that's obvious I > suppose ! > > Peter > From custom at freenet.de Tue Dec 12 05:02:14 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:02:14 +0700 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> References: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1165899734.4901.8.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 18:31 -0500, bradhamilton wrote: > > Apple is not Free remember? Keep in mind they're EVERY bit as evil in > > their business practises as Microsoft.. It's really unbelievable what > > they try to pull AND get away with, only because they're seen as the > > cute arty underdog.. But it's run from the very same mindset as > > Microsoft... (lock in, lock in, lock in, sell proprietary hardware, > > using proprietary formats, sell tunes, make money) > > I'd much rather run OS X than Windows, wouldn't you? :-) I wouldn't know. Haven't used macs in about 10 years. Used to develop some stuff on them and learned there's not much magical about them. At least I understand they got a lot more stable now that they're based on BSD and run on Intel hardware. The one thing that keeping OS X would give you is the ability to run decent video editing software. That's a bit of a dark spot in Linux based OS's. That said: How much of current Mac Powerbook hardware is supported on Ubuntu? Does it all work, incl. the wide screen, wifi, bluetooth and so on? > If you buy a non-Mac platform, it's generally hard to avoid the "Windows > tax", Come on, I'm not sure if it's different in the USA but overhere it's almost standard to leave Windows off. :) (or at least leave the sticket off, wink wink nudge nudge) . > so what's the difference between the "Windows tax" and the "OS X tax"? Ehmmm: With OS X you actually get something for your tax dollars? :-) Cheers, Chanchao From haniganwork at earthlik.net Tue Dec 12 05:12:29 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:12:29 -0600 Subject: freezing up In-Reply-To: <1165859763.5050.16.camel@toby-desktop> References: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> <1165859763.5050.16.camel@toby-desktop> Message-ID: <1165900350.21500.3.camel@star> I know the 3D screen savers were freezing my AMD machines are you viewing 3D stuff on the website when it freezes? If so maybe someone will have an idea on how to solve it. > > Steve thank you for ur kind reply steve" well to be right honest > > with you I am computer dumb, and dont realy understand what acpi > > means,...when it dose this,freez up i mean, it just sits there with > > what ever i was doing on it,like the web site still open! just like a > > still frame picture" mouse curser wont move" key bord dead", only > > thing to do is reach over and push the on/off button, and let it > > reboot,...and sometimes it will last for a while and die again! > > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > > From menachem.shapiro at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 05:18:19 2006 From: menachem.shapiro at gmail.com (Menachem Shapiro) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:18:19 -0800 Subject: digikam won't let me delete files - "could not rename file ..." In-Reply-To: <679cb3d0612112016r3448db1v6c021111045d09e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <679cb3d0612112016r3448db1v6c021111045d09e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <679cb3d0612112118j60166479uc38061985c9470fe@mail.gmail.com> B"H On 12/11/06, Menachem Shapiro wrote: > B"H > Hello > > I installed digikam (as well as a bunch of related packages) to my > computer running Ubuntu Edgy. > > When I try to delete a file, I get an error saying "could not rename > file FILENAME" (where FILENAME is the name of the file). By default > the permissions for the file are 644, but even changing them to 777 > made no difference. > I was able to solve the problems by following this tip in KDE's bug tracking system for digicam: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123120 I guess KDE programs expect to find the trash in ~/Desktop/Trash while Ubuntu has the trash in ~/.Trash. Menachem From simon at swedishdrunkard.com Tue Dec 12 05:52:25 2006 From: simon at swedishdrunkard.com (Simon Skogh) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:52:25 -0800 Subject: Tweaking Thunderbird Message-ID: <457E4399.7080307@swedishdrunkard.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay, so not purely Ubuntu related, but I'm hoping someone can assist me in a small quest, or two rather. First, is there (I doubt it, but who knows) any way to enable flash in TB's built-in browser? The reason for this is simply RSS feeds that pull up the actual site in the browser / message window. I subscribe to a few feeds that are heavy on embedded video (via flash, think YouTube) and 8 / 10 updates require me to load the page in Firefox to view it. Secondly, I have seen several people having customized reply statements, such as instead of say "On December 9th SomeRandomDude wrote:" some people have "SomeRandomDude spoke thusly..." Silly little thing, but I haven't been able to find how to change it, and I like personalized little gimmicks such as those. Thanks in advance! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfkOZz+/vk9aBZhMRAge8AJsE8gxBJiaBpYYE6frIItaLg5YnuACfYLa6 CW+wnAteVMvYk7ctc6O+wjU= =DZJf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 12 05:20:52 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:20:52 -0800 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> <94ccba8e0612111853p65dceb87pf707a224f22b13b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87mz5tlmff.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Santiago Erquicia" writes: > 2006/12/11, John L Fjellstad : >> You could always add the opera repository to your sources.list: >> >> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free >> > > You can also add the dapper proprietary repository. It works fine. Didn't realize Opera had created a dapper repository -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 12 07:07:44 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:07:44 +1100 Subject: Default Display Manager? In-Reply-To: <1165899606.5180.2.camel@Wind> References: <76800d9c0612111142p7cefc276mffbef7924d6fd09d@mail.gmail.com> <20061212132646.cda67107.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <1165899606.5180.2.camel@Wind> Message-ID: <20061212180744.a34e3b82.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:00:06 -0600 Gerry Visel wrote: > Thanks, Peter! That worked fine except... I get a dialog box that > pops up at the end of login that says "Failed to initialize HAL." > > Who is HAL, and why does he need initials in my computer? ;-) Hardware Abstraction Layer, if I remember correctly. Perhaps try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ( just guessing that perhaps my method short-circuits something in the configuration - I don't think I've used the /etc/X11/default-display-manager hack since Debian Woody, so a lot has happened since ! ) As for the initials - you are no doubt aware that if you use the following letter of each initial, you get "IBM" - so blame it on IBM ;-) Peter From martin.marcher at openforce.com Tue Dec 12 07:45:16 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:45:16 +0100 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <87odqam7w9.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> <87odqam7w9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <5247A2E8-B69B-414B-B40C-53BA6CCF8C67@openforce.com> Am 11.12.2006 um 22:37 schrieb John L Fjellstad: > But then again, I just read an interesting snipped from > "The Pragramtic Programmer" (Hunt, Thomas) where they mention that you > should just pick one editor and master it (tip 22) Absolutely true, if you master your one true editor (which should of course be vim not emacs as you stated :), you will be very efficient. Though I think a good toolchain is what makes programming fun, you can have the worst stile while writing code, our little unix helpers will do it for you, Examples: indent(1) sed(1) gawk(1) or awk ctags "Your favorite Bookmark Collection"® gdb ddd $SHELL (I heard zshell should be convenient but never could make myself up to switch) some versioning system a little understanding about shell scripting To name just a few. The most important ones to me are a versioning system and indent which I use to format code snippets from the web the way I want (which is also why I can't understand people keep complaining about different code styles, I found mine - I can read it - _and_ I expect developers to know how to reformat it if they feel the need to do so). just my 2 $INSERT_FAVORITE_SUB_CURRENCY_HERE martin From norman at littletank.org Tue Dec 12 08:44:33 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:44:33 +0000 Subject: Changes in Gimp. In-Reply-To: References: <1165589858.5288.49.camel@localhost> <1165740552.5072.46.camel@localhost> <1165773800.5414.8.camel@localhost> <1165857723.5736.55.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165913073.5736.66.camel@localhost> > But here's a link to getting started with backports: > https://launchpad.net/projects/ubp Thank you, this looks a good place to start from. Norman From elitepenguin at gmx.net Tue Dec 12 09:43:04 2006 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:43:04 +0100 Subject: Edgy on a Dell Dimension 9150 In-Reply-To: <20061212130651.453ce04a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <2f30da460612111431s5d3dfc47o64cc35c05e847226@mail.gmail.com> <20061212130651.453ce04a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <2f30da460612120143w4e442722qa6eb057ced6dadd2@mail.gmail.com> so i'll hide the menu bar from now.. thx for the tip ;-) From stude.list at googlemail.com Tue Dec 12 10:12:51 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:12:51 +0000 Subject: Tweaking Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <457E4399.7080307@swedishdrunkard.com> References: <457E4399.7080307@swedishdrunkard.com> Message-ID: <219482c0612120212g164bdbf7y8efbcf291a77a242@mail.gmail.com> On 12/12/06, Simon Skogh wrote: > Secondly, I have seen several people having customized reply > statements, such as instead of say > "On December 9th SomeRandomDude wrote:" I was sure I had seen this somewhere, but maybe that was a different email client. The only thing I can find is (Thunderbird 1.5): Edit -> Preferences. Advanced Tab, then General On the right near the bottom should be a button labelled 'Config Editor'. Click that. You should see something similar to FireFox's about:config window. (but the Thunderbird version). type 'reply' in the filter box. You should see: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote change the value of that to whatever you want it to say when you reply. You may want to read the FAQ entry: I don't think you actually need to alter user.js, I think the config editor can do it for you. Hope that helps. _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 10:46:20 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:46:20 +0000 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? In-Reply-To: <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> References: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612120246t4780d2ue5ee6f735bdf7f82@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I have gotten kqemu running on edgy. The easiest way to do it is to compile from source, since the ubuntu repos don't include the kqemu accelerator (it's non-free software). Download qemu and kqemu source tarballs. Install using ./configure, make, make install with your favorite options, and then activate the kqemu module: modprobe kqemu major=0 This kernel module has to be activated, or it won't be used. You have to do this every time you have rebooted, so make a startup script. Hope this helped! Check here for more info: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html On 12/12/06, sdavmor wrote: > > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Yesterday I wanted to try OpenSuse 10.2 that'a just been released. > > No no, no intent to cheat on Ubuntu officer, honnest, just meant to > > look at the competition to see where we stand. > > > > In VMware it hung, so I tried in Qemu. > > I have never used Qemu before, but the latest version was in Edgy so I > > installed painlessly. Suse installed fine from the DVD ISO, but it was > > sooooo slow (took about 4 hours, no kidding). > > > > I went to the Qemu website: > > > > http://www.qemu.org/kqemu-doc.html > > > > and gathered that there is kernel module, called "Kqemu" one must use to > > accelerate significantly Qemu and make it eventually useful. > > I didn't find that Kqemu thing in the Ubuntu repos, so I followed the > > instructions given on the above link. > > I downloaded it, compiled, loaded it by hand ("sudo modprobe kqemu"), > > tripled checked that /dev/kqemu existed, that is was loaded in memory > > (I used lsmod), and I start Qemu as root to avoid any permission > > problem on the module, as mentioned on the site. > > > > Then I start Qemu, hoping for the best... and quickly disappointed, > > Suse runs so slow that it hardly can respond to mouse input properly. > > > > I went to the Ubuntu Wiki, but didn't find any Edgy specific/relevant > > Howto, only obsolete stuff. > > > > So if anyone has managed to get Kqemu working on Edgy, I would > > gratefully receive your guidance... :-) > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > -- > > Vince > > I was disappointed with the performance of Qemu running Win2K on Edgy, > even after install the accelerator, that I moved it under VMWare and > it was quite OK. I'm interested in trying a couple of the other > emulators too for comparison. > -- > Cheers, > SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man > Systems Theory internet music project links: > official site > soundclick > garageband > "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 > "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 > NP: nothing > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 11:10:22 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:10:22 -0200 Subject: C programming environment In-Reply-To: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120310x3115ad6cgd0206d6721b4b2c2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/11/06, Dieter Schicker wrote: > Which "programming environment" do you prefer for C development? Kate is my best friend, and I usually use Konsole to compile. HTH, Hervé, on Kubuntu. From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 11:33:17 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:33:17 -0200 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. In-Reply-To: <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120333l2c62973drb22dcb15d7f3ab30@mail.gmail.com> You might want to load the oss compatibility modules if you need /dev/dsp. But why do you need it? Most things use ALSA through the alsa library these days. For the rest, Daniel's e-mail is complete and correct AFAIK. Hervé. On 12/11/06, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > David A. Cobb wrote: > > "sound/pci/ac97" OK, I figure I'm real smart so I do a "# modprobe > > ac97" which appears to work. Also, recalling what nVidia used to > > Barking up the wrong tree here. > > > SO, am I using the right driver, or do I need to compile in the "intel8x0". > > We already compile and provide snd-intel8x0.ko and snd-ac97-codec.ko > (among a host of prerequisite ALSA kernel modules) in the various > linux-image-2.6.foo packages. > > > And, while we're at it, if someone can advise what udev configuration > > statements I need to assign the /dev/dsp* names to the appropriate node > > numbers, that would be nice too. > > You wouldn't touch udev, actually. > > Essentially, if snd_intel8x0 is loaded, is selected as the default sound > driver, and is detected and shown properly with ``asoundconf list'', > then the real issue is a mixer level [elements] one, i.e., "your volumes > are not set properly." > > Look at the output from ``amixer''. > > Thanks, > - -- > Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com > GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFff3me9GwFciKvaMRAj6HAKDCQtax34EI2YQcmkmHFaP1/OJ+mwCgg7Ww > WmMTwRQEQKd4oBhvotkmGaw= > =mS3q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 11:36:54 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:36:54 -0200 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <87mz5tlmff.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> <94ccba8e0612111853p65dceb87pf707a224f22b13b4@mail.gmail.com> <87mz5tlmff.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120336x48c5f251w3ef8014a7b1a737c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/12/06, John L Fjellstad wrote: > > 2006/12/11, John L Fjellstad : > >> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free > Didn't realize Opera had created a dapper repository More like a Debian unstable one by the name of it... Hervé. From marius at pov.lt Tue Dec 12 11:37:07 2006 From: marius at pov.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:37:07 +0200 Subject: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 3D support In-Reply-To: <457E2EDA.2070105@digitaloverload.net> References: <457E2EDA.2070105@digitaloverload.net> Message-ID: <20061212113707.GA10173@fridge.pov.lt> On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:23:54PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > I've searched all over the net for a fix and I can't figure this one out. > > Here's what I've got. > > 1. Ubuntu Dapper > 2. Xorg version 7 ( according to "X -version" ) > 3. IBM ThinkPad T42 > 1. ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 I have this hardware. 3D works (mostly), and has always worked out of the box, as far as I can remember. That's why I love Ubuntu -- mostly stuff just works. I can run Compiz if I disable the "blur" plugin (which makes things *too* slow) and if I also disable dual-monitor support (32 megs of video RAM is not enough for a 3D desktop at 2304x1024, and besides the hardware 3D engine only supports acceleration up to 2048x2048). > I tried to follow these instructions on the Ubuntu forum but they don't > work. > > * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32015 > * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119487 I see a lot of people tweaking obscure options to get the maximum FPS value in glxgears. People I respect keep saying glxgears is not a good benchmark, and the FPS it shows have little to do with the speed of actual 3D applications/games. > Part of the instructions include running "driconf". I installed it but > when I run it it says something about no "radeon" driver or that it > doesn't allow configuration. That's interesting. I can run driconf and it doesn't complain. If you run $ glxinfo |grep direct in a terminal, do you see "direct rendering: Yes"? > That last link says something about Xorg version 6.9. I've got Xorg > version 7.0. I don't want to go backwards here. You don't need to. > I'm hoping someone on the list has a fix for this. Again, the above > instructions didn't work for me. Marius Gedminas -- If you want to trick a pointy-haired boss into letting you write software in Lisp, you could try telling him it's XML. -- http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 11:40:02 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:40:02 -0200 Subject: freezing up In-Reply-To: <1165859763.5050.16.camel@toby-desktop> References: <1165829052.4924.12.camel@toby-desktop> <45391f280612111328o3ff5891cm8ed664d41bb791fa@mail.gmail.com> <1165859763.5050.16.camel@toby-desktop> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120340u5c5413e2gdddc8e332e26ef86@mail.gmail.com> Try disabling the screen savers, just to see what happens... Are you using Skype? Also, after restarting the computer, please have a look at the /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages files and search for 'BUG'. Send us the result! Hervé. On 12/11/06, helen johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 21:28 +0000, Steve Flynn wrote: > > On 11/12/06, helen johnson wrote: > > hi, could anyone tell me what to do to stop the freezing up? > > I am running ubuntu Linux mint edgy 6.10 on a hp pavilion, a > > 264 w, with > > amd athalon xp,..but it happens with all the Linux distros I > > load up! > > and it takes time after time trying, to install Linux! please > > help?? > > > > When you say "freezing up" is there no response at all from the > > machine. Do the keyboard lights work, for example, after the machine > > has locked? > > > > Is there anything in the syslog? > > What are your boot parameters? ACPI enabled or not? > > > > -- > > Steve thank you for ur kind reply steve" well to be right honest > > with you I am computer dumb, and dont realy understand what acpi > > means,...when it dose this,freez up i mean, it just sits there with > > what ever i was doing on it,like the web site still open! just like a > > still frame picture" mouse curser wont move" key bord dead", only > > thing to do is reach over and push the on/off button, and let it > > reboot,...and sometimes it will last for a while and die again! > > Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From mstruscott at optusnet.com.au Mon Dec 11 10:19:22 2006 From: mstruscott at optusnet.com.au (MLT) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:19:22 +1000 Subject: Gstreamer - how to install codecs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612112019.22224.mstruscott@optusnet.com.au> > On 12/10/06, Dennis Castanos wrote: > > I install Gstreamer for multimedia playback. Can anyone tell me how to > > download the codecs and install? The Mplayer page is to confusing to me. > > Dennis I would avoid automatix myself and use synaptic to install all the packages for gstreamer - they should "just work". If you don't have a AMD64 you could also try the w32codecs package. From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 12:05:32 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:05:32 -0200 Subject: wireless settings In-Reply-To: <1165686436.5382.5.camel@localhost> References: <1165686436.5382.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120405ga42f2cekbf3a3855166eb3e5@mail.gmail.com> Are both computers using static IPs? Some router don't like IPs they did not supply themselves (like mine)... Hervé. On 12/9/06, John Dangler wrote: > I have a laptop running 6.06 LTS with ipw2100 wireless > > I also have an XP box with a USB54G adapter. > > Both are connecting to a WVS440N router. > > I got the XP box to see and connect to the router. > > The ubuntu laptop sees the wireless network, and indicates that it has a > strong signal connection, but cannot access the ip of the router. > > Can someone here give me some clues as to the settings to use to get > this working? > > tia > > John > > The router address is 192.168.2.1 > > eth1 config - > network name - home_test > key type: hex > WEP key: xxxxxxxx > > Config: static IP > IP: 192.168.2.38 > Subnet: 255.255.255.0 > Gateway: 192.168.2.1 > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue Dec 12 12:10:03 2006 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:10:03 -0000 Subject: Remote MySQL connect Message-ID: What is the 'correct' way to configure MySQL for remote connections? The db in question is running fine and can be accessed via phpmyadmin, amongst other things. The default my.cnf has: bind-address - 127.0.0.1 When I comment this out (and restart the db), I can connect remotely - so user/password and privs are fine) but this leaves the db wide open. Say I want to provide remote access to 192.168.0.1. Can this be done via MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- address? -- Best, Marc From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Dec 12 12:27:54 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:27:54 +0100 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612120246t4780d2ue5ee6f735bdf7f82@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> <78d24f7a0612120246t4780d2ue5ee6f735bdf7f82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061212132754.1aceb88d.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Rutger van Haasteren" wrote: > Yes, I have gotten kqemu running on edgy. > ...Check here for more info: > ...http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html As I said in my e-mail, I have already done exactly what you said, and followed the exact same web page that you mentioned, and it doesn't work. Or, if it worked as expected, then the accelerator is absolutely worthless as it's stil way to slow to be of any use :-/ Well, at least now I can say "I tried Qemu"...... and promptly forgot about it... -- Vince From stude.list at googlemail.com Tue Dec 12 13:06:59 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:06:59 +0000 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? In-Reply-To: <20061212132754.1aceb88d.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> <78d24f7a0612120246t4780d2ue5ee6f735bdf7f82@mail.gmail.com> <20061212132754.1aceb88d.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <219482c0612120506n57600341pa1ba89642b58f262@mail.gmail.com> On 12/12/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Or, if it worked as expected, then the accelerator is absolutely > worthless as it's stil way to slow to be of any use :-/ Did you run it in full virtualization mode? Read: There are some limitations to what can run in that mode. To use it add the following command line option when invoking Qemu: -kernel-kqemu (run faster for me) There is a free accelerator that makes use of the VT instructions in the new Intel Chips (I think the core2 duos may have it but not sure). If you are lucky enough to have the correct kind of processor look at: http://kvm.sourceforge.net/ >From the docs, this is how to check your processor: With a recent enough Linux kernel, run the command: egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo If something shows up, you have VT. And for instructions compiling it on Edgy you can read: http://popey.com/Compiling_kvm_Under_Ubuntu_Edgy_i386 I have never tried that myself, me PC no good enough :( I also had to delete my Virtual Machine, it was using up too much disc space. (But I shall get around to cleaning out all the rubbish on the disc at some point.) _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From ben at cvrse.com Tue Dec 12 13:24:24 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:24:24 +1100 Subject: Is Opera gone from the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) repositories? In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612120336x48c5f251w3ef8014a7b1a737c@mail.gmail.com> References: <53002.90471.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20061211131903.4ef7f627@WizardsTower> <87slfmm84a.fsf@fjellstad.org> <94ccba8e0612111853p65dceb87pf707a224f22b13b4@mail.gmail.com> <87mz5tlmff.fsf@fjellstad.org> <4413284c0612120336x48c5f251w3ef8014a7b1a737c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061212132424.GA5518@vaio.cvrse.com> * Herv? Fache wrote: > On 12/12/06, John L Fjellstad wrote: > > > 2006/12/11, John L Fjellstad : > > >> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free > > > Didn't realize Opera had created a dapper repository > > More like a Debian unstable one by the name of it... i think he's refering to dapper-commercial which works no problems under edgy for opera deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 12/11/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > Answering myself here, > > Well it seems that this issue is solved in serendipity-1.1 althoug I > don't like using beta software this seems ok, since we are a small > company and I consider apache2 stable enough. > > In the 1.1 version you can simply do basic authentication and the > authentication headers will be forwarded to serendipity which makes > it quite usable. > > Only thing is for good admin interface interaction you need to > have .htaccess enabled and paste your authentication information there. > > I'd like it if it could be done in the directory structure but I > think after a bit of investigation this should be possible... > > Reachable from everywhere but still locked down so only people that > know the magic word can enter :) > > hope this helps someone > martin > > Am 11.12.2006 um 13:19 schrieb Martin Marcher: > > > Hello, > > > > I just recreated our company internal blog. Before that (and before > > going down) it was reachable only by a private IP, now I'd like to > > have it public - well in a way. > > > > I'd like it to have only a login mask and none of the posts should be > > publicly available, that is until you have an account where you > > should be able to reach everyting. > > > > Anybody knows how to do that or knows a plugin that can do that? > > > > thanks > > martin > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > > listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 13:34:11 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:34:11 -0200 Subject: Reducing optical drive when playing audio CDs In-Reply-To: <20061210174931.GD6082@astro.ox.ac.uk> References: <20061210174931.GD6082@astro.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120534u2d86683bp299e98e4201eccf6@mail.gmail.com> This is usually done by the application: xine does that. Hervé. On 12/10/06, Michael Williams wrote: > How do I reduce the noise made by my PC's optical drive when listening > to audio CDs? The PC runs Dapper. "hdparm -E [low number]" isn't working > and, according to its man page, it shouldn't be necessary. > > I know it's possible for an OS to adapt the optical drive speed based on > context, since OS X manages to play audio CDs without sounding like a > jet engine (as does Windows, I think, although it's been a while!). > > However, with the hdparm -E switch set, the drive still sounds like it's > spinning very quickly. Also, that switch permanently lowers the speed, > which also reduces the speed for data discs. According to the man page > it should not be required for normal operation. > > My understanding is that this is an OS-level issue, but I have tried > more than one audio CD application (Sound Juicer, Rhythmbox, xmcd). For > unrelated reasons, I don't want to encode the CDs as MP3s and play them > from my hard drive. The PC is only a few months old and a good quality > IBM model. The drive is apparently a Lite-on DVD SOHOD 16P9-S. > > -- Mike > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From lasantha2linux at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 13:38:05 2006 From: lasantha2linux at gmail.com (lasa) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:08:05 +0530 Subject: RHEL 4 Deamon list and their functions Message-ID: Pls someone tell me the way of getting RHEL4 deamons and thrir functions list. This is to unstall the unwanted deamons for mail and proxy server which I have installed. Pls let me know even a link to get thease informations. -- Lasantha Amarasinghe Sri Lanka -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 13:40:52 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:40:52 -0200 Subject: Ext3 resizing and performance In-Reply-To: <1165833783.5470.12.camel@worldventures> References: <1165782668.5920.30.camel@worldventures> <6f6293f10612101408ybe56d38k89319b8229b1bf15@mail.gmail.com> <1165833783.5470.12.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4413284c0612120540q73444172m617abde6228e1f4b@mail.gmail.com> On 12/11/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I am impressed with ext3 although it doesn't appear to be the best > choice in all situations for my desktop use it seems best. Only thing is > that it doesn't make good use of the space on my HDD, once you take into > account the block slack, the journal size (128mb defaults (on my drive) > whereas reiser was 8mb and the huge chunk reserved for super user which > I did reduce from 5% to just 2%. Still when usable capacity is cut by > several gigabytes before even using it I can't help but feel hard done > by. Especially since in the first place HDs are advertised as 100GB but > really are only 95GB or whatever. Last time I checked, Reiserfs was using 32 MiB for its journal, not 8. Anyway, the capacity is not cut by several gigabytes, and you _do_ need a journal and an allocation table for _any_ fs. Hard disks _are_ 100 GB when sold as 100 GB, just not 100 GiB (that would be 107 MB), and I have the weakness to think that's good: G = 10^9, not 2^30. Now stop moaning and enjoy your Ubuntu ;-) Hervé. From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Dec 12 14:01:59 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:01:59 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612120333l2c62973drb22dcb15d7f3ab30@mail.gmail.com> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> <4413284c0612120333l2c62973drb22dcb15d7f3ab30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457EB657.1070509@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hervé Fache wrote: > You might want to load the oss compatibility modules if you need > /dev/dsp. But why do you need it? Most things use ALSA through the > alsa library these days. Please see /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base . We automatically load snd-pcm-oss. Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfrZXe9GwFciKvaMRAkKNAJ97DtV8mWBltjDWdowUmVlVqzwUWACfdt24 kqrZ6SvPmNgRaSwXWRmGqG4= =gvcZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martin.marcher at openforce.com Tue Dec 12 14:13:40 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:13:40 +0100 Subject: Remote MySQL connect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I'd do it via a firewall (since this is the only way I know for mysql, but then again I don't like mysql - someone may know better) iptables -I INPUT -t filter --source-addres ! 192.168.0.1 -j DROP something like that netfilter.org has a bunch of good examples for those kind of stuff (and also gives some insight what you are really doing there) hth martin Am 12.12.2006 um 13:10 schrieb marc: > What is the 'correct' way to configure MySQL for remote connections? > > The db in question is running fine and can be accessed via phpmyadmin, > amongst other things. > > The default my.cnf has: > > bind-address - 127.0.0.1 > > When I comment this out (and restart the db), I can connect remotely - > so user/password and privs are fine) but this leaves the db wide open. > > Say I want to provide remote access to 192.168.0.1. Can this be > done via > MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- > address? > > -- > Best, > Marc > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users > From martin.marcher at openforce.com Tue Dec 12 14:17:45 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:17:45 +0100 Subject: RHEL 4 Deamon list and their functions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3703F2A4-19A1-48FF-8025-83BB96790ED0@openforce.com> Hello, you might want to look here: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo I'm pretty sure the people at redhat can help you a lot better with this than the people at ubuntu. hth martin Am 12.12.2006 um 14:38 schrieb lasa: > Pls someone tell me the way of getting RHEL4 deamons and thrir > functions list. This is to unstall the unwanted deamons for mail > and proxy server which I have installed. Pls let me know even a > link to get thease informations. > > -- > Lasantha Amarasinghe > Sri Lanka > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-users From superbiskit at cox.net Tue Dec 12 14:42:35 2006 From: superbiskit at cox.net (David A. Cobb) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:42:35 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. In-Reply-To: <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <457EBFDB.6030009@cox.net> Daniel T. Chen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > David A. Cobb wrote: > >> "sound/pci/ac97" OK, I figure I'm real smart so I do a "# modprobe >> ac97" which appears to work. Also, recalling what nVidia used to >> > > Barking up the wrong tree here. > So much for figuring "I'm real smart!" > >> SO, am I using the right driver, or do I need to compile in the "intel8x0". >> > > We already compile and provide snd-intel8x0.ko and snd-ac97-codec.ko > (among a host of prerequisite ALSA kernel modules) in the various > linux-image-2.6.foo packages. > OK, I did locate them using those names and did a modprobe snd-intel8x0 to make sure it was loaded (?). Still no joy! > >> And, while we're at it, if someone can advise what udev configuration >> statements I need to assign the /dev/dsp* names to the appropriate node >> numbers, that would be nice too. >> > > You wouldn't touch udev, actually. > > Essentially, if snd_intel8x0 is loaded, is selected as the default sound > driver, and is detected and shown properly with ``asoundconf list'', > then the real issue is a mixer level [elements] one, i.e., "your volumes > are not set properly. asoundconf list doesn't say that!: Names of available sound cards: nForce2 > > Look at the output from ``amixer''. > Probably useless in light of the above, however: ATTACHED And as silent as can be. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Pls let me know even a link to get thease > informations. > > -- > Lasantha Amarasinghe > Sri Lanka > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Dec 12 14:59:06 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:59:06 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. In-Reply-To: <457EBFDB.6030009@cox.net> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> <457EBFDB.6030009@cox.net> Message-ID: <457EC3BA.1010209@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David A. Cobb wrote: > Names of available sound cards: > nForce2 That's correct. That's the human-friendly identifier for your sound device. It does not need to (and won't) match the filename of the sound driver. > And as silent as can be. amixer set 'IEC958 Playback Switch' off && amixer set 'External Amplifier' off Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfsO6e9GwFciKvaMRArvHAJ9suCHZk8J5lqsloXafFL8FeRRwfACeODos lz6Q8F6owg54AT3uW4EUSv0= =WuP3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 15:00:23 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:00:23 -0200 Subject: restart prob. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612120700nb4b1197o14ee731d7856c92@mail.gmail.com> What happens if you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ? Hervé. On 12/10/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > nw i hav a strange prob...every time i restart,i hav to start ma gdm > manualy..after reconfiggin xserver-xfree86...can ya help me out.. > me using sarge on lenovo 3000y100... > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From sean.hammond at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 15:19:46 2006 From: sean.hammond at gmail.com (Sean Hammond) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:19:46 +0000 Subject: Nvidia Quadro4 XGL Message-ID: <22fe482e0612120719p42afe06k715d1dd042305c33@mail.gmail.com> According to Nvidia's linux driver page this card is supported: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html Anyone tried it with Ubuntu Dapper or Edgy? I have a fast machine with one of these cards that they've given me at work to do game development. It has Windows XP on it, but Windows has been giving me such hassle that I'm considering installing Ubuntu dual-boot. There'd be no point if I couldn't easily get the graphics acceleration going though. From martin.marcher at openforce.com Tue Dec 12 14:16:07 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:16:07 +0100 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: Closing serendipity down In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612120529m128b50vb9a7961b96c9661d@mail.gmail.com> References: <221E7C97-B890-4B87-8F34-A5FAA6F83D84@openforce.com> <4413284c0612120529m128b50vb9a7961b96c9661d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77E329A2-8496-4BC7-AA58-92D0EB7B6493@openforce.com> Hello, no apache is not the problem, I thought serendipity had an option, I did lots of apache stuff lately (rewrite rules, proxying all the nifty features apache has). I'd only like to all the web apps make more use of apache (and even more so I'd love most of them to support postgres as well as mysql, it's going there but to slow :) \martin Am 12.12.2006 um 14:29 schrieb Hervé Fache: > If you still need help with restricted access in Apache2, do not > hesitate to post again, as I had it working myself. From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 16:53:22 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:53:22 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade Message-ID: I tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy. The upgrade seems only partly successful. When I reboot after the upgrade, I'm not able to run update-manager. I get: Quote: root at localhost:/home/user# update-manager Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", line 59, in ? import dbus File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? from _dbus import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? from proxies import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? import introspect_parser File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2 File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2mod ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache I followed this guide when upgrading. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades I tried gksu "update-manager -c" to upgrade first - but it did not seem to work. 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URL: From arzajac at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 17:35:40 2006 From: arzajac at gmail.com (Andrew Zajac) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:35:40 -0500 Subject: Remote MySQL connect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65241ce50612120935y5d0f5608hb71da6557970025f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/12/06, marc wrote: > What is the 'correct' way to configure MySQL for remote connections? ... > Say I want to provide remote access to 192.168.0.1. Can this be done via > MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- > address? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-2b91cc1ce37842102d20e88e029477b035bee150 From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Tue Dec 12 17:50:13 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:50:13 +0100 Subject: Kqemu: does it work on Edgy ? In-Reply-To: <219482c0612120506n57600341pa1ba89642b58f262@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061209164057.fd333aa7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <457E07CC.5010409@systemstheory.net> <78d24f7a0612120246t4780d2ue5ee6f735bdf7f82@mail.gmail.com> <20061212132754.1aceb88d.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <219482c0612120506n57600341pa1ba89642b58f262@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061212185013.316bbbc7.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Andy wrote: > Did you run it in full virtualization mode? > Read: > Yeah I tried running Qemui with and without this option, but it doesn't make any (noticeable at least) difference. > There is a free accelerator that makes use of the VT instructions in > the new Intel Chips (I think the core2 duos may have it but not sure). > If you are lucky enough to have the correct kind of processor look at: > http://kvm.sourceforge.net/ > I have never tried that myself, me PC no good enough :( :o) My processor is way too old as well ! ;o) It's a 5 year old, 1,47GHz AMD Athlon XP ! That said, most of the time it's plenty fast enough (even modern processors run at 1,5Ghz ). The only times where it's a bit slow is when installing Linux packages (god that eats CPU !!!), or when viewing website with Flash animation (it brings the computer down on its knees !) and when running Linux inside VWmare. For some reason that escape me, running Windows XP (which is alien on a Linux host, after all) is fast in VMware, but Linux is not.... :-( > I also had to delete my Virtual Machine, it was using up too much disc space. Yeah indeed ! I used to have plenty enough space with my old 40GB hard drive.... until I started playing with numerous OSes in VMWare ! I now have an 80GB disk and that's still a tight fit -- Vince From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 18:04:11 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:04:11 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' And report what happens. If no errors came up, try running update-manager again. Otherwise, follow the instructions apt-get will give you (usually either 'dpkg --configure -a' or 'apt-get -f install'). If all fails, I might still be able to help you out... Hervé. On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > I tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy. The upgrade seems only partly > successful. When I reboot after the upgrade, I'm not able to run > update-manager. > > I get: > Quote: > root at localhost:/home/user# update-manager > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > File > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > line 59, in ? > import dbus > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", > line 1, in ? > from _dbus import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", > line 48, in ? > from proxies import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", > line 2, in ? > import introspect_parser > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > line 1, in ? > import libxml2 > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line > 1, in ? > import libxml2mod > ImportError: > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined > symbol: > xmlXPathContextSetCache > I followed this guide when upgrading. > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades > > I tried > gksu "update-manager -c" > to upgrade first - but it did not seem to work. When I rebooted I was still > in dapper. > > I then tried the apt-get upgrade method on this page. > It seems to have worked partly. > Quote: > root at localhost:/home/user# lsb_release -r > Release: 6.10 > but I still get the update-manager problem, and I'm not sure what else may > be broken. Anyone else experience this problem? > > I have already tried reinstalling ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal and > ubuntu-desktop. It tells me that these packages are already upgraded to the > latest version. > > I have also tried reinstalling update-manager with synaptic. It tells me I > need also reinstall ubuntu-desktop. I remove and reinstall ubuntu-desktop, > then I attempt to reinstall update-manager. When I try to reinstall > update-manager I get an error: > Quote: > E: update-manager: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit > status 127 > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From dennismouille at yahoo.com Tue Dec 12 18:17:58 2006 From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:17:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: mp3 - Totem could not play - ef308ddfd01 error Message-ID: <20061212181758.27969.qmail@web38712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I trying to play mp3 files off the internet. I get a message - Totem could not play 'file/home/username/.mozilla/firefox/yt22Bud.default/cache/3f308ddfd01' Can anyone help me? dennis --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From superbiskit at cox.net Tue Dec 12 18:22:19 2006 From: superbiskit at cox.net (David A. Cobb) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:22:19 -0500 Subject: nVidia, AC97 sound, and UDEV. My face is very red!!! In-Reply-To: <457EC3BA.1010209@fungus.sh.nu> References: <457DF466.8090302@cox.net> <457DFDE6.40504@fungus.sh.nu> <457EBFDB.6030009@cox.net> <457EC3BA.1010209@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <457EF35B.4000106@cox.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > David A. Cobb wrote: > >> Names of available sound cards: >> nForce2 >> > > That's correct. That's the human-friendly identifier for your sound > device. It does not need to (and won't) match the filename of the sound > driver. > > >> And as silent as can be. >> > > amixer set 'IEC958 Playback Switch' off && amixer set 'External > Amplifier' off > That got "Unable to find simple control 'IEC958 Playback Switch'", however # amixer cset name='IEC958 Playback Switch' off worked. NOW, why my face is red. Half the problem was solved by System=>Preferences=>Sound and setting all the options to ALSA. Out of the box, some were "nforce" and that didn't work. The only setup that got a positive sound test was the ALSA ones. Mildly curious, since nVidia formerly said their NVSOUND driver was OSS; still, whatever works. BUT, before I got that positive sound test, it helped greatly to plug the speakers into "Line-Out" instead of "Line-In." The color coding seemed to match the wrong way. Thanks for the help. From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 18:23:33 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:23:33 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' > And report what happens. Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done update-manager is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. If no errors came up, try running > update-manager again. It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. I have also tried reinstalling update-manager (and ubuntu-desktop) via synaptic. No errors, but I still get the same python errors. Thanks, Redmond Otherwise, follow the instructions apt-get will > give you (usually either 'dpkg --configure -a' or 'apt-get -f > install'). If all fails, I might still be able to help you out... > > Hervé. > > On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > I tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy. The upgrade seems only partly > > successful. When I reboot after the upgrade, I'm not able to run > > update-manager. > > > > I get: > > Quote: > > root at localhost:/home/user# update-manager > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > > File > > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > > line 59, in ? > > import dbus > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", > > line 1, in ? > > from _dbus import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", > > line 48, in ? > > from proxies import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", > > line 2, in ? > > import introspect_parser > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > > line 1, in ? > > import libxml2 > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line > > 1, in ? > > import libxml2mod > > ImportError: > > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined > > symbol: > > xmlXPathContextSetCache > > I followed this guide when upgrading. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades > > > > I tried > > gksu "update-manager -c" > > to upgrade first - but it did not seem to work. When I rebooted I was > still > > in dapper. > > > > I then tried the apt-get upgrade method on this page. > > It seems to have worked partly. > > Quote: > > root at localhost:/home/user# lsb_release -r > > Release: 6.10 > > but I still get the update-manager problem, and I'm not sure what else > may > > be broken. Anyone else experience this problem? > > > > I have already tried reinstalling ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal and > > ubuntu-desktop. It tells me that these packages are already upgraded to > the > > latest version. > > > > I have also tried reinstalling update-manager with synaptic. It tells me > I > > need also reinstall ubuntu-desktop. I remove and reinstall > ubuntu-desktop, > > then I attempt to reinstall update-manager. When I try to reinstall > > update-manager I get an error: > > Quote: > > E: update-manager: subprocess post-installation script returned error > exit > > status 127 > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Tue Dec 12 18:37:24 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:37:24 -0800 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457D8E51.7070208@vmware.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <20061210052734.55e7e69b.phummers@iname.com> <457D8E51.7070208@vmware.com> Message-ID: <457EF6E4.3070402@systemstheory.net> Pratap Subrahmanyam wrote: > Peter Hummers wrote: >> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:35 -0500 >> John Richard Moser wrote: >> >> >>> I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I >>> think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant >>> keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's >>> capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a >>> processor that can clock 100MHz max. >>> >> I'm not much of a tree-hugger, but there are too many computers that still work in our landfills. I'd like to see some support for 486; 386s could still serve files, too, as far as that goes ... >> > I second this whole heartedly. I still love my P3 500 MHz box. I'd like > to see the community continue to focus on performance optimizations even > for these older processors. > > Pratap My development box is a Celeron 600. And that's only because the Celeron 400 finally gave up the ghost (and it came after the Pentium 133 fizzed). Where doing so won't get in the way of being productive, I like to develop on machines that are short on "performance". It helps keep me from writing sloppy lazy "throw some bigger iron at it" code. The payback is that I seldom hear from customers about speed issues of any kind, even those not running blazing fast machines armed with tons of bonus RAM. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From ultrakorne at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 18:51:58 2006 From: ultrakorne at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:51:58 +0100 Subject: hotplug problems Message-ID: <1165949518.7607.12.camel@localhost> i made a fresh ubuntu edgy install on a friend pc, i386 desktop on his amd64. strangely the default kernel installed was -generic, but installing nvidia drivers i changed it to -386 but the problem was with the usb modem, hotplug doesn work, no /etc/hotplug exist (usb pen dont works) and the modem complain about no hotplug found. in several reboots it works once (i dont really know how), the modem was detected and also the usb pen was mounted. lsmod | grep hotplug pci_hotplug 31284 1 shpchp plugging the usb pen (exept the time it worked) shows in dmesg: usb device not accepting address # From ogra at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 12 18:54:39 2006 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:54:39 +0100 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> hi, Am Dienstag, den 12.12.2006, 12:23 -0600 schrieb qt4x11: > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' > And report what happens. > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > update-manager is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > > > If no errors came up, try running > update-manager again. > > > It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run > update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. > did you use anything evil like automatix or the faster-dapper script ? or do you have any non-ubuntu entries in your sources.list ? ciao oli > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse On 12/12/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 12.12.2006, 12:23 -0600 schrieb qt4x11: > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' > > And report what happens. > > > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > update-manager is already the newest version. > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > > > > > > > > > If no errors came up, try running > > update-manager again. > > > > > > It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run > > update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. > > > did you use anything evil like automatix or the faster-dapper script ? > or do you have any non-ubuntu entries in your sources.list ? > > ciao > oli > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue Dec 12 19:04:02 2006 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:04:02 -0000 Subject: Remote MySQL connect References: <65241ce50612120935y5d0f5608hb71da6557970025f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andrew Zajac said... > On 12/12/06, marc wrote: > > What is the 'correct' way to configure MySQL for remote connections? > ... > > Say I want to provide remote access to 192.168.0.1. Can this be done via > > MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- > > address? > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-2b91cc1ce37842102d20e88e029477b035bee150 Er, which bit are you alluding to? Have you tried this? All that pages seems to be suggest is to set bind-address to a fixed IP, which is equally silly, especially when the machine in question does not have a fixed IP. -- Best, Marc From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 19:39:54 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:39:54 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> I'd suggest to try 'sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade'. Hopefully this will find and fix the issue... Hervé. On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > Here's my sources.list > > I think it is alright > > # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)]/ edgy > main restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the > network > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main > restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced > ## after the final release of the distribution. > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > restricted > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security > ## team. > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main > restricted > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > main restricted > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > universe > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > universe > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > > > > On 12/12/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > Am Dienstag, den 12.12.2006, 12:23 -0600 schrieb qt4x11: > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > > > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' > > > And report what happens. > > > > > > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > > Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree > > > Reading state information... Done > > > update-manager is already the newest version. > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If no errors came up, try running > > > update-manager again. > > > > > > > > > It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run > > > update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. > > > > > did you use anything evil like automatix or the faster-dapper script ? > > or do you have any non-ubuntu entries in your sources.list ? > > > > ciao > > oli > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 19:47:20 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:47:20 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is what I get. Thanks for helping. root at host:/home/user# apt-get -y dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", line 59, in ? import dbus File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? from _dbus import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? from proxies import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? import introspect_parser File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2 File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2mod ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache root at host:/home/user# On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > I'd suggest to try 'sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade'. Hopefully this will > find and fix the issue... > > Hervé. > > On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > Here's my sources.list > > > > I think it is alright > > > > # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)]/ > edgy > > main restricted > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the > > network > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main > > restricted > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates > produced > > ## after the final release of the distribution. > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > > restricted > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > > restricted > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' > > ## repository. > > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the > Ubuntu > > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as > to > > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu > security > > ## team. > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main > > restricted > > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > main restricted > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > universe > > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > universe > > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main > > restricted universe multiverse > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 12.12.2006, 12:23 -0600 schrieb qt4x11: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > > > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > > > > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager' > > > > And report what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > > > Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > update-manager is already the newest version. > > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If no errors came up, try running > > > > update-manager again. > > > > > > > > > > > > It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run > > > > update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. > > > > > > > did you use anything evil like automatix or the faster-dapper script ? > > > or do you have any non-ubuntu entries in your sources.list ? > > > > > > ciao > > > oli > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhull at digitaloverload.net Tue Dec 12 20:00:23 2006 From: dhull at digitaloverload.net (Damien Hull) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:00:23 -0900 Subject: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 3D support In-Reply-To: <20061212113707.GA10173@fridge.pov.lt> References: <457E2EDA.2070105@digitaloverload.net> <20061212113707.GA10173@fridge.pov.lt> Message-ID: <457F0A57.6010504@digitaloverload.net> Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:23:54PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > >> I've searched all over the net for a fix and I can't figure this one out. >> >> Here's what I've got. >> >> 1. Ubuntu Dapper >> 2. Xorg version 7 ( according to "X -version" ) >> 3. IBM ThinkPad T42 >> 1. ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 >> > > I have this hardware. 3D works (mostly), and has always worked out of > the box, as far as I can remember. That's why I love Ubuntu -- mostly > stuff just works. > > I can run Compiz if I disable the "blur" plugin (which makes things > *too* slow) and if I also disable dual-monitor support (32 megs of video > RAM is not enough for a 3D desktop at 2304x1024, and besides the > hardware 3D engine only supports acceleration up to 2048x2048). > > >> I tried to follow these instructions on the Ubuntu forum but they don't >> work. >> >> * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32015 >> * http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119487 >> > > I see a lot of people tweaking obscure options to get the maximum FPS > value in glxgears. People I respect keep saying glxgears is not a good > benchmark, and the FPS it shows have little to do with the speed of > actual 3D applications/games. > > >> Part of the instructions include running "driconf". I installed it but >> when I run it it says something about no "radeon" driver or that it >> doesn't allow configuration. >> > > That's interesting. I can run driconf and it doesn't complain. > > If you run > > $ glxinfo |grep direct > > in a terminal, do you see "direct rendering: Yes"? > > >> That last link says something about Xorg version 6.9. I've got Xorg >> version 7.0. I don't want to go backwards here. >> > > You don't need to. > > >> I'm hoping someone on the list has a fix for this. Again, the above >> instructions didn't work for me. >> > > Marius Gedminas > I ran "glxinfo" and it says I don't have DRI. The strange thing is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log says DRI is loaded. I even get /proc/dri. There is a device /dev/dri/card0. I don't know what's going on. All the logs etc... say I have DRI but glxinfo says no. From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 21:31:38 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:31:38 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If there really is nothing else I can try at this point to resolve this problem - should I wipe my computer and reinstall? or, if I wait will ubuntu push out updates that will fix this problem eventually? On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > This is what I get. Thanks for helping. > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -y dist-upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > line 59, in ? > import dbus > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? > from _dbus import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? > from proxies import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? > import introspect_parser > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line > 1, in ? > import libxml2 > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? > import libxml2mod > ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined > symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > root at host:/home/user# > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > > > I'd suggest to try 'sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade'. Hopefully this will > > find and fix the issue... > > > > Hervé. > > > > On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > > Here's my sources.list > > > > > > I think it is alright > > > > > > # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)]/ > > edgy > > > main restricted > > > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from > > the > > > network > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted > > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main > > > restricted > > > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates > > produced > > > ## after the final release of the distribution. > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > > > restricted > > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main > > > restricted > > > > > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the > > 'universe' > > > ## repository. > > > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the > > Ubuntu > > > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself > > as to > > > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > > > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu > > security > > > ## team. > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe > > > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main > > > restricted > > > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > > main restricted > > > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > > universe > > > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security > > > universe > > > > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse > > > > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main > > > restricted universe multiverse > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Oliver Grawert < ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 12.12.2006, 12:23 -0600 schrieb qt4x11: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache < Herve at lucidia.net> wrote: > > > > > Please try the following to try and fix update-manager: > > > > > 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install > > update-manager' > > > > > And report what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > > > > Fetched 4B in 1s (3B/s) > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > > update-manager is already the newest version. > > > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If no errors came up, try running > > > > > update-manager again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It tells me it is already upgraded. But when I try to run > > > > > update-manager, I get the same python errors as before. > > > > > > > > > did you use anything evil like automatix or the faster-dapper script > > ? > > > > or do you have any non-ubuntu entries in your sources.list ? > > > > > > > > ciao > > > > oli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From towsonu2003 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 21:40:13 2006 From: towsonu2003 at gmail.com (t u) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:40:13 -0500 Subject: [la]tex to odt -but how, with custom document class apa.cls? Message-ID: <457F21BD.5020608@gmail.com> Hi, I am working with a latex file that uses apa.cls as its document class. I tried using tex4ht, its oolatex script, texi2html, tex2rtf and none of them worked. Is there anyone who knows how to convert such a tex file nicely to an openoffice format? Please CC me your replies, I'm not subscribed to the list :) thanks a lot Here's what my file looks like ------------------ \documentclass[tt,man]{apa} \title{title} \author{name} \affiliation{affiliation} \abstract{abstract} \acknowledgements{bla bla} \shorttitle{running head} \rightheader{running head} \leftheader{author} \begin{document} \maketitle bla bla bla \cite{sakalliG2003}, bla bla bla. \bibliography{articlebib} \end{document} ------------------------------- From jens at dataparty-mn.biz Tue Dec 12 22:25:56 2006 From: jens at dataparty-mn.biz (Jens Cedlind) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:25:56 +0100 Subject: Remote MySQL connect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457F2C74.1090702@dataparty-mn.biz> marc wrote: > What is the 'correct' way to configure MySQL for remote connections? > > The db in question is running fine and can be accessed via phpmyadmin, > amongst other things. > > The default my.cnf has: > > bind-address - 127.0.0.1 > > When I comment this out (and restart the db), I can connect remotely - > so user/password and privs are fine) but this leaves the db wide open. > > Say I want to provide remote access to 192.168.0.1. Can this be done via > MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- > address? > Hi, My preferred way would be to create a user that can only connect from 192.168.0.1 in MySQL. This can be done easily from phpmyadmin. /Jens From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Tue Dec 12 22:28:21 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:28:21 +0100 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:31 -0600, qt4x11 wrote: > If there really is nothing else I can try at this point to resolve > this problem - I think the other poster who suggested the -y switch actually meant -f. >From man apt-get: -f, --fix-broken Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. -y, --yes, --assume-yes Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts and run non-interactively. What happens when you run it like this? sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get -f install From simon at swedishdrunkard.com Tue Dec 12 22:32:02 2006 From: simon at swedishdrunkard.com (Simon Skogh) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:32:02 -0800 Subject: Tweaking Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <219482c0612120212g164bdbf7y8efbcf291a77a242@mail.gmail.com> References: <457E4399.7080307@swedishdrunkard.com> <219482c0612120212g164bdbf7y8efbcf291a77a242@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457F2DE2.8090704@swedishdrunkard.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy wrote: > On 12/12/06, Simon Skogh wrote: >> Secondly, I have seen several people having customized reply >> statements, such as instead of say >> "On December 9th SomeRandomDude wrote:" > > I was sure I had seen this somewhere, but maybe that was a different > email client. > The only thing I can find is (Thunderbird 1.5): > Edit -> Preferences. > Advanced Tab, then General > On the right near the bottom should be a button labelled 'Config Editor'. > Click that. > You should see something similar to FireFox's about:config window. > (but the Thunderbird version). > type 'reply' in the filter box. > You should see: > mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote > change the value of that to whatever you want it to say when you reply. > > You may want to read the FAQ entry: > > > I don't think you actually need to alter user.js, I think the config > editor can do it for you. > > Hope that helps. > > _ Andy Perfect, exactly what I was looking for. I had been looking through the config editor before, but apparently I hadn't found the proper field. Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfy3iz+/vk9aBZhMRAsDDAJoDQr4gis4Wlmz+C6++d8PuqWICtACfRif5 Dn19tHQA9K9vsj8499YkcRo= =Dwbq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 22:34:27 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:34:27 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> Message-ID: It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su root at host:/home/user# apt-get update Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) Reading package lists... Done root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. root at host:/home/user# root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", line 59, in ? import dbus File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? from _dbus import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? from proxies import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? import introspect_parser File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2 File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2mod ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache On 12/12/06, Mario Vukelic wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:31 -0600, qt4x11 wrote: > > If there really is nothing else I can try at this point to resolve > > this problem - > > I think the other poster who suggested the -y switch actually meant -f. > >From man apt-get: > -f, --fix-broken > Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies > in place. > > -y, --yes, --assume-yes > Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts > and run non-interactively. > > > What happens when you run it like this? > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get -f install > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Dec 12 23:10:12 2006 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:10:12 +0000 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> qt4x11 wrote: > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com > edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com > edgy-updates/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > root at host :/home/user# > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > File > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > line 59, in ? > import dbus > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? > from _dbus import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? > from proxies import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? > import introspect_parser > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > line 1, in ? > import libxml2 > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? > import libxml2mod > ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: > undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache [Disclaimer: I'm running Debian Sarge but am thinking of moving to Kubuntu.] The problem seems to be in libxml2mod.so, rather than in UpdateManager. Try reinstalling that... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 23:22:36 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:22:36 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: What packages would I need to reinstall? I couldn't find it via synaptic. On 12/12/06, Wulfy wrote: > > qt4x11 wrote: > > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted > Translation-en_US > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com > > edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted > Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse > Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com > > edgy-updates/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > root at host :/home/user# > > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > > File > > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > > line 59, in ? > > import dbus > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in > ? > > from _dbus import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? > > from proxies import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? > > import introspect_parser > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > > line 1, in ? > > import libxml2 > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? > > import libxml2mod > > ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: > > undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > [Disclaimer: I'm running Debian Sarge but am thinking of moving to > Kubuntu.] > > The problem seems to be in libxml2mod.so, rather than in UpdateManager. > Try reinstalling that... > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann > > Wulf Credo: > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 23:26:45 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:26:45 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <4413284c0612121526h5381747dvb953552b435e6151@mail.gmail.com> Ok, let's try and think. The problem is that library, but your system is perfectly up-to-date. We need to re-install that library, but before can you please get the version of it ('ls -l /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so*' will do it)? - first find out the package it belongs to: 'dpkg -S /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so' - second we want to re-install the package: apt-get install --reinstall Also, can you tell us what flavour you're running (ubuntu, kubuntu, ...)? Hervé. On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > root at host :/home/user# > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > File > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > line 59, in ? > import dbus > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line > 1, in ? > from _dbus import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", > line 48, in ? > from proxies import * > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", > line 2, in ? > import introspect_parser > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > line 1, in ? > import libxml2 > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line > 1, in ? > import libxml2mod > ImportError: > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined > symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > > > > On 12/12/06, Mario Vukelic < mario.vukelic at dantian.org> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:31 -0600, qt4x11 wrote: > > > If there really is nothing else I can try at this point to resolve > > > this problem - > > > > I think the other poster who suggested the -y switch actually meant -f. > > >From man apt-get: > > -f, --fix-broken > > Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies > > in place. > > > > -y, --yes, --assume-yes > > Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts > > and run non-interactively. > > > > > > What happens when you run it like this? > > sudo apt-get update > > sudo apt-get -f install > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 12 23:38:37 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:38:37 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4413284c0612121538y3d23e063ge0c0086f90a79ee6@mail.gmail.com> dpkg -S /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so ...will tell you which. We can use Google's chat if you want (my wife will kill me but never mind!), feel free! Hervé. On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > What packages would I need to reinstall? I couldn't find it via synaptic. > > On 12/12/06, Wulfy wrote: > > qt4x11 wrote: > > > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > > > > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > > > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > > > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted > Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com > > > > > edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > > > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > > > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted > Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse > Translation-en_US > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com < http://archive.ubuntu.com> > > > > > edgy-updates/restricted Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree > > > Reading state information... Done > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > root at host :/home/user# > > > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > > > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > > > File > > > > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > > > line 59, in ? > > > import dbus > > > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line > 1, in ? > > > from _dbus import * > > > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, > in ? > > > from proxies import * > > > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line > 2, in ? > > > import introspect_parser > > > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > > > line 1, in ? > > > import libxml2 > > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", > line 1, in ? > > > import libxml2mod > > > ImportError: > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: > > > undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > > [Disclaimer: I'm running Debian Sarge but am thinking of moving to > Kubuntu.] > > > > The problem seems to be in libxml2mod.so, rather than in UpdateManager. > > Try reinstalling that... > > > > -- > > Blessings > > > > Wulfmann > > > > Wulf Credo: > > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From sethian at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 12 23:40:08 2006 From: sethian at sympatico.ca (Alexander Duncan) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:40:08 -0500 Subject: Uninstalling Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457F3DD8.2030708@sympatico.ca> Thanks to the Ubuntu mailing list and to all those who responded individually regarding my request for clarification of various points respecting the removal of the Ubuntu OS as a secondary partition on my Windows XP OS. As a result of these responses and independent Internet research I have been able to construct an explicit and complete procedure for uninstalling Ubuntu and restoring one's OS to its original state. Nothing I found on the Internet explicitly documented every aspect of this procedure. The Ubuntu web site does not include any reference to an uninstall procedure, nor does the installation wizard include an uninstall option. As a result, I am copying the following procedure to the Ubuntu mail list so that others who contact the list with the same problem I had can benefit from my research. Ubuntu Uninstall Instructions The Ubuntu installation wizard makes installing Ubuntu as a secondary partition on a Windows system extremely easy. However, the wizard does not offer an uninstall option nor does the Ubuntu web site provide uninstall instructions. Consequently, unless you are a Windows OS expert, if you install Ubuntu you are likely to be trapped unless you are willing to backup your OS and reinstall the Windows OS from scratch (unlike the Macintosh, which allows one to reinstall the OS without deleting preferences or files and which makes partitioning easy). With great difficulty I found several incomplete instructions on uninstalling Ubuntu on the Internet. Rather surprisingly, the Ubuntu web site does not offer this information. The Ubuntu mail list was very helpful, however. By collating all these sources I was able to uninstall Ubuntu, and thus create an explicit description of the correct procedure. This cost me many hours of work. Since it would be a shame to waste all this effort, I offer it to you, through the Ubuntu mail list. The following instructions were developed for Windows XP Home Edition. Other Windows OSs may vary somewhat. To remove Ubuntu and restore your Windows OS to its original state System Restore will not work. You must complete three separate procedures in the following order: 1. Restore your Master Boot Record (MBR) 2. Delete the partition 3. Resize your Windows partition back to its original size To complete the following instructions you will require two CDs: * Windows Setup CD * GParted Live CD. This is the partition management tool I used to create these instructions. There are other partition management tools available that should also work, but of course the instructions will be somewhat different. Instructions for burning a copy of the GParted Live CD may be found on the Internet at . To restore your MBR: 1. Insert the Windows Setup CD into the CD or DVD tray on your computer. 2. Restart your computer. 3. Hit Enter to reboot from the Windows CD when prompted to do so. 4. Type “R” and hit Enter in Windows Setup to enter the Recovery Console. The Recovery Console will appear and list the Windows OSs on your machine. 5. Select the number corresponding to the Windows installation you wish to boot into. For most people this will be a “1”. (In some versions of the Recovery Console the installations will be numbered. In others, you will have to deduce the installation number from the order of priority in the list.) 6. Windows will prompt you for an Administrator password. Try your Administrator password or, if your Administrator password does not work, hit Enter. 7. At the Windows prompt, type “fixmbr”. 8. Type “exit” to restart the computer. Your computer should restart using the Windows installation you selected. To delete the Ubuntu partition: There are several ways you can delete a partition, including Computer Management (Local) and Command Prompt from within Windows itself (for more information type “delete partition” in Help and Support in the Start menu). However, since you will be using the GParted LiveCD anyway, the following instructions will instruct you in the correct procedure using the GParted LiveCD. You can go straight from deleting the Ubuntu partition to resizing the Windows partition. If you have not already burned a copy of the GParted LiveCD, do so now before continuing below. 9. Insert the GParted LiveCD in the CD or DVD tray on your PC. 10. To accept the default boot options hit Enter. 11. To accept US English language hit Enter. 12. To accept the default keymap hit Enter. 13. To accept the default screen depth hit Enter. 14. Click on the Ubuntu partition in the graphical display. 15. Press the Delete button. To resize the Windows partition: 16. Click on the Windows partition. 17. Press the Resize button. 18. Resize your partition by dragging the left and right borders of the graphic representation of the partition to the desired size (typically, to the maximum extent possible). 19. Press the Resize button. 20. Press the Shutdown button (red arrows in extreme lower right corner of the display). 21. To eject the CD and restart, hit Enter. 22. The GParted Live CD will eject. Remove the CD from the tray. It is not necessary to close the tray manually. 23. Hit Enter. Your computer should restart using the Windows installation you selected. To verify that your Windows partition has been resized, navigate to Start / All Programs / Accessories / System Tools / Disk Defragmenter. The Capacity is indicated in the fourth column. From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 23:40:23 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:40:23 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612121526h5381747dvb953552b435e6151@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <4413284c0612121526h5381747dvb953552b435e6151@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Ok, let's try and think. The problem is that library, but your system > is perfectly up-to-date. We need to re-install that library, but > before can you please get the version of it ('ls -l > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so*' will do it)? root at host:/home/user# ls -l /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 62 2006-12-11 13:10 /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so -> /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so root at host:/home/user# - first find out the package it belongs to: 'dpkg -S > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so' root at host:/home/user# dpkg -S /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so dpkg: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so not found. not sure if that was correct ... - second we want to re-install the package: apt-get install > --reinstall > > Also, can you tell us what flavour you're running (ubuntu, kubuntu, ...)? ubuntu Hervé. > > > On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted > Translation-en_US > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted > Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse > Translation-en_US > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > root at host :/home/user# > > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > > File > > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > > line 59, in ? > > import dbus > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line > > 1, in ? > > from _dbus import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", > > line 48, in ? > > from proxies import * > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", > > line 2, in ? > > import introspect_parser > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > > line 1, in ? > > import libxml2 > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line > > 1, in ? > > import libxml2mod > > ImportError: > > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined > > symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Mario Vukelic < mario.vukelic at dantian.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:31 -0600, qt4x11 wrote: > > > > If there really is nothing else I can try at this point to resolve > > > > this problem - > > > > > > I think the other poster who suggested the -y switch actually meant > -f. > > > >From man apt-get: > > > -f, --fix-broken > > > Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies > > > in place. > > > > > > -y, --yes, --assume-yes > > > Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts > > > and run non-interactively. > > > > > > > > > What happens when you run it like this? > > > sudo apt-get update > > > sudo apt-get -f install > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From qt4x11 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 23:48:48 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:48:48 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612121538y3d23e063ge0c0086f90a79ee6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <4413284c0612121538y3d23e063ge0c0086f90a79ee6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/12/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > dpkg -S /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so > ...will tell you which. it tells me root at host:/home/user# dpkg -S /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so dpkg: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so not found. I'm online now if you can see me. We can use Google's chat if you want (my wife will kill me but never > mind!), feel free! > > Hervé. > > On 12/12/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > What packages would I need to reinstall? I couldn't find it via > synaptic. > > > > On 12/12/06, Wulfy wrote: > > > qt4x11 wrote: > > > > It is still giving me errors even if I use -f. > > > > > > > > [user at host 1 ~]$ sudo su > > > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get update > > > > Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > > > > Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted > > Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe > Translation-en_US > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > > > > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted > Translation-en_US > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > > > > Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted > > Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe > Translation-en_US > > > > Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse > > Translation-en_US > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > > > > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com < http://archive.ubuntu.com> > > > > > > > edgy-updates/restricted Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > > > > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > > > > Fetched 4B in 11s (0B/s) > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > root at host:/home/user# apt-get -f install > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > > > root at host :/home/user# > > > > root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? > > > > from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager > > > > File > > > > > > "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", > > > > line 59, in ? > > > > import dbus > > > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line > > 1, in ? > > > > from _dbus import * > > > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, > > in ? > > > > from proxies import * > > > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line > > 2, in ? > > > > import introspect_parser > > > > File > > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", > > > > line 1, in ? > > > > import libxml2 > > > > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", > > line 1, in ? > > > > import libxml2mod > > > > ImportError: > > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: > > > > undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache > > > [Disclaimer: I'm running Debian Sarge but am thinking of moving to > > Kubuntu.] > > > > > > The problem seems to be in libxml2mod.so, rather than in > UpdateManager. > > > Try reinstalling that... > > > > > > -- > > > Blessings > > > > > > Wulfmann > > > > > > Wulf Credo: > > > Respect the elders. 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URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Dec 12 23:55:41 2006 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:55:41 +0000 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> qt4x11 wrote: > What packages would I need to reinstall? I couldn't find it via synaptic. I don't have that lib on my system. It's probably one of the libxml2 packages... In a terminal: dpkg -S libxml2mod.so will tell you which package installed that lib. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 12 23:59:56 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:59:56 +1100 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <4413284c0612121526h5381747dvb953552b435e6151@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061213105956.62779b62.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:40:23 -0600 qt4x11 wrote: > root at host:/home/user# dpkg -S > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so > dpkg: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so not found. $ dlocate libxml2mod.so python2.4-libxml2: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libxml2mod.so Is "python2.4-libxml2" installed ? It wouldn't hurt to reinstall it anyway I guess. Peter From qt4x11 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 00:03:25 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:03:25 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Looks like the package is python-libxml2 I have reinstalled it but it does not look to have fixed the problem. root at host:/home/user# dpkg -S libxml2mod.so python-libxml2: /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so python-libxml2: /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.5/libxml2mod.so root at host:/home/user# apt-get install --reinstall python-libxml2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/251kB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y (Reading database ... 184707 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace python-libxml2 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 (using .../python-libxml2_2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement python-libxml2 ... Setting up python-libxml2 (2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4) ... root at host:/home/user# gksu "update-manager -c" Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in ? from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py", line 59, in ? import dbus File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/__init__.py", line 1, in ? from _dbus import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/_dbus.py", line 48, in ? from proxies import * File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/proxies.py", line 2, in ? import introspect_parser File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/dbus/introspect_parser.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2 File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? import libxml2mod ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlXPathContextSetCache root at host:/home/user# On 12/12/06, Wulfy wrote: > > qt4x11 wrote: > > What packages would I need to reinstall? I couldn't find it via > synaptic. > I don't have that lib on my system. It's probably one of the libxml2 > packages... > > In a terminal: > > dpkg -S libxml2mod.so > > will tell you which package installed that lib. > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann > > Wulf Credo: > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glgxg at mfire.com Wed Dec 13 00:08:53 2006 From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:08:53 -0800 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: John Richard Moser wrote: [snip] > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) > > I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I > think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant > keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's > capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a > processor that can clock 100MHz max. > [snip] If by 486 you mean as early as PII then I can assure you that Ubuntu runs just fine on those machines. On a daily basis I run 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper) on the following: 300Mhz PII[1] 400Mhz PII[2] 450Mhz PII (this one as a matter of fact)[3] [1] Noname PII w/original processor - only the CPU fan has been replaced [2] Old Lapnote laptop [3] Old Compaq Presario 5670 - also the one that I am posting from. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 13 00:24:15 2006 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:24:15 +0000 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> qt4x11 wrote: > Looks like the package is python-libxml2 > > I have reinstalled it but it does not look to have fixed the problem. I checked on my system and python-libxml2 is a dummy package that depends on python2.3-libxml2. Yours probably points to python2.4-libxml2 version (as Ubuntu is newer than Sarge). If reinstalling *that* package doesn't fix it, I have no other suggestions, sorry... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 13 00:57:28 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:57:28 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20061213115728.4354ca41.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:08:53 -0800 NoOp wrote: > If by 486 you mean as early as PII then I can assure you that Ubuntu > runs just fine on those machines. As far as I know, anything later than Pentium 1 is a 686. "uname -m" will tell you. The oldest machine I've used with Ubuntu ( 5.10 - Breezy ) was a Pentium 200 MMX - which was a 586 ( The rather odd motherboard, small form factor of some kind, finally died, sadly ) Peter From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Dec 13 01:06:15 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:06:15 -0500 Subject: Printing... Message-ID: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a windows box and print them out? From smccuan at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 01:15:25 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:15:25 -0500 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: "Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal Schmoe's" What do you mean? Linux supports the vast majority of printers using CUPS. Unless of course your using some off-brand $20 printer...then your likely to have problems due to a lack of manufacturer support. On 12/12/06, John Dangler wrote: > > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > windows box and print them out? > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary_garibaldi at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 13 01:17:59 2006 From: gary_garibaldi at sbcglobal.net (Gary Allen Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:17:59 -0800 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457F54C7.8030004@sbcglobal.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Dangler wrote: > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > windows box and print them out? > > What type of printer do you have? I'm not sure what you mean by no print support, but have you tried System > Administration > Printing to configure a printer. Also have you tried to click printing under file menu in firefox and then selecting print to file? Gary -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFf1THK9Y7+61SF2oRAu7UAJ9SXXFg3Gsgf3EZWT4BETNDGcS28ACfeeUv iZpxD8OLY1/fzzPF377ZZio= =JvkB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vramnum10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 01:22:12 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:22:12 -0800 Subject: Gui password In-Reply-To: <1365ade30612111735p755de118sf200549f8e75382a@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0612111645k19cfa99as852b47592f52ac6a@mail.gmail.com> <1365ade30612111735p755de118sf200549f8e75382a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612121722o2f66c95do55520cecc410b45c@mail.gmail.com> Thank YOU User Iam On 12/11/06, maman durahman wrote: > > system--preference--about me. You can change your passowrd there. > > On 12/12/06, User Iam wrote: > > HI > > > > How do I change the GUI password..? > > > > If I change my password in a terminal screen it only changes the text > login > > stuff... > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Wed Dec 13 01:26:12 2006 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:26:12 -0500 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1165973172.25656.12.camel@pspotts> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 20:06 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > windows box and print them out? > For the airlines, hotels, etc I tend to use, the receipt/confirmation.e-ticket page has a "print" link on it somewhere. When I use that, Firefox brings up a clean new window or activates its print window and I get a clean copy, sans useless artwork. You could try saving the file as a text file in Firefox, then using gedit or some other editor to view and print it. But the page's format may go wiggy on you. Again, I just tend to use the print hotlink that often is there on the receipt page. Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From vramnum10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 01:59:07 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:59:07 -0800 Subject: mysql Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612121759w7c69f53brec89984f2b0b8ba@mail.gmail.com> Hi I want to learn MySQL Did an apt-cache search MySQL There is a lot of stuff there!!!!!! What is the best min install... And what is a good beginner book??? TIA User Iam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 02:16:05 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:16:05 +0800 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 12/10/06, John Richard Moser wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) > > I'm not ready to advocate the 686 push some people want to go for; I > think there may be a wide enough 586 audience out there to warrant > keeping it for a little while. Still, looking at the 486 and what it's > capable of, I think it may be time to suggest deprecating support for a > processor that can clock 100MHz max. > > - -- > We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their > cattle! > -- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQIVAwUBRXtydQs1xW0HCTEFAQLo0g/9FxYHAwuUcVNezFrwDNmmd4fPfGvVGjdH > fVU6HFxtjfPJn4F6pctjoWyKIiESb80S29Gkc9zhSpUFZ7v3+Y4/R60NsI6wGK5a > O5BrwKsvacHKrNGbrFfNukpnS/HLtaCwfLZscDhjKNBqmyaPWbHM1Gk87cKu5eBk > Sxxzo9bp1l2up/hUEgxiVUZqBgeKcxZihPmNAXAdjn4NcfS9tPRqYYsZ8DNlR01M > QIUeQmP9f6CjNyRTE/qRfzk1ajB9hqAtH+iGTTUGe1Tu0VoIvdwn1R/e7ggJo2u6 > wXOindqQtJQK0Ql7vpGXWshspcGbeUYiKHy0DYzddGzkzXYA4ruzjr+Bw52JZmef > /D7KqmmxHCt8qYvoL0v5v/pK//+z3Osi/XJHca8nBa3PeHuJUlJeyVE80rp7ouxy > A+KM6cFZVrUhCjhGB4rOWVqJGTwnuH7i0DJ3GIs4voFc+cSTcsjYasmlsIj8LVZj > 2/So3q0CRv6BZRmx0vWQnKySThtlKqyd+bYZCYSm3xbeT+MYD5YIWDrEM8xvEkR3 > yYBD8zdGNOjGrXvVXUhdPGBC1N3GobtTjUzvsm+QpUFEn+OGxNywFwA8b62eGT21 > 4rn73PEMfdsBn4TOnoL32YoI6q5pH1ypb5pgEkp8cmsxdxQbIDQjoeWQhxQ7sbMg > mAL4PoVwAZg= > =AzKj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > This also concerns me too... As long as those systems are up and still running, we can't just throw it away. Alot of applications nowadays are towards the use of _specific_ hardware, like XGL/AiGLX, but even the oldest hardware can run 3D on software mode. Nowadays, people thinks that there is no chance to use those freedesktop _standards_, because inevitably it needs a decent expensive hardware -- Force yourself to smile even on the most difficult situations. From durahman at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 02:18:12 2006 From: durahman at gmail.com (maman durahman) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:18:12 +0700 Subject: mysql In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0612121759w7c69f53brec89984f2b0b8ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0612121759w7c69f53brec89984f2b0b8ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1365ade30612121818p18aa7f6dh1346734ef7ee09b2@mail.gmail.com> There is a lot of way to lear mysql. May be ( i have not try it yet) an easiest way to install is XAMPP. With this you have mysql, apache, php in one package. Phpmyadminn too, i think. With xampp you need not to install a think. Just download xampp, extract to a folder, and start. Here is a complete writing about it, I found it from ubuntu forum and others; HOWTO: Setup easy web development environment (XAMPP) This is a how-to for setting up a web development environment easily. This guide will install the XAMPP lampp stack into /opt, setup an easy way to start it up and shut it down, and link a folder in your home directory to the webserver. WARNING This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the directions on the Ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP As this is Ubuntu, all the major parts of a typical web server are included (in the main repo, or on the Ubuntu Server CD) and this is a great way to setup a server. The ubuntu developers have prepared a great web server and have made the process as seemless as possible. But what if even the official way is still to complicated? What if you just want a quick web server for development? Fortunately there is the XAMPP project: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html. The XAMPP project bundles Apache, PHP4 & 5, Perl, mySQL, and a bunch of other utilities/applications into an simple package for Mac OSX, Windows, Solaris, and Linux. Obviously this HOWTO only deals with the linux version. For those of you with already existing Apache/mySQL/php installations it installs everything into /opt so it doesn't conflict with any other installation, and it is completely setup and ready to run. Install XAMPP Two easy steps: 1. Download the most recent version of XAMPP: (at time of writing 1.5.3a) http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/x...ar.gz?download (Source URL: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#374) 2. Extract the archive to /opt using sudo: (make sure you are in the directory that you downloaded the archive to) Code: sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt Start XAMPP To start it up, open a terminal and type this: Code: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start Stop XAMPP To stop it, open a terminal and type this: Code: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp stop Additional XAMPP commands To see additional commands, open a terminal and type this: Code: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp Sweet XAMPP Control Panel To use the sweet gtk/python control panel: Run in a terminal: Code: gedit ~/.local/share/applications/xampp-control-panel.desktop Paste the following into the open file and save and exit. Code: [Desktop Entry] Comment=Start/Stop XAMPP Name=XAMPP Control Panel Exec=gksudo "python /opt/lampp/share/xampp-control-panel/xampp-control-panel.py" Icon[en_CA]=/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/devices/network-wired.svg Encoding=UTF-8 Terminal=false Name[en_CA]=XAMPP Control Panel Comment[en_CA]=Start/Stop XAMPP Type=Application Icon=/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/devices/network-wired.svg "XAMPP Control Panel" will show up in your applications menu under Internet. Use the Alacarte Menu Editor to move it around. Test to see if XAMPP is running Once XAMPP is up and running open firefox and go to: http://localhost/ You should see the XAMPP test page: Location of files and uploading XAMPP by default uses /opt/lampp/htdocs as the root web directory. The easiest way to start working on files is to link a folder in your home directory into this directory. My user name is peter so I have /home/peter/public_html linked to /opt/lampp/htdocs/peter. So if I navigate to http://localhost/peter/ I get a listing of all the files/folders in that directory. (As long is there isn't a index.php/html/etc file) To set this up, run in a terminal: 1. Make public_html directory in home directory: Code: mkdir ~/public_html 2. Link to /opt/lampp/htdocs Code: sudo ln -s ~/public_html /opt/lampp/htdocs/$USER Now any files and folders you place in ~/public_html will be published to your personal webserver. Bookmark http://localhost/username to make this easy to access. WARNING - SECURITY http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#381 Open holes: 1. The MySQL administrator (root) has no password. 2. The MySQL daemon is accessible via network. 3. ProFTPD uses the password "lampp" for user "nobody". 4. PhpMyAdmin is accessible via network. 5. Examples are accessible via network. 6. MySQL and Apache running under the same user (nobody). This doesn't leave your whole system wide open, but someone could hack your XAMPP installation, so be wary. To fix most of the security weaknesses open a terminal and run: Code: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp security START AND STOP PARAMETERS Parameter Description start Starts XAMPP. stop Stops XAMPP. restart Stops and starts XAMPP. startapache Starts only the Apache. startssl Starts the Apache SSL support. This command activates the SSL support permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future SSL will stay activated. startmysql Starts only the MySQL database. startftp Starts the ProFTPD server. Via FTP you can upload files for your web server (user "nobody", password "lampp"). This command activates the ProFTPD permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future FTP will stay activated. stopapache Stops the Apache. stopssl Stops the Apache SSL support. This command deactivates the SSL support permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future SSL will stay deactivated. stopmysql Stops the MySQL database. stopftp Stops the ProFTPD server. This command deactivates the ProFTPD permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future FTP will stay deactivated. security Starts a small security check programm. For example: To start Apache with SSL support simply type in the following command (as root): /opt/lampp/lampp startssl You can also access your Apache server via SSL under https://localhost. * What is where? What is where? A big question of our existens, here are some answers! ;) IMPORTANT FILES AND DIRECTORIES File/Directory Purpose /opt/lampp/bin/ The XAMPP commands home. /opt/lampp/bin/mysql calls for example the MySQL monitor. /opt/lampp/htdocs/ The Apache DocumentRoot directory. /opt/lampp/etc/httpd.conf The Apache configuration file. /opt/lampp/etc/my.cnf The MySQL configuration file. /opt/lampp/etc/php.ini The PHP configuration file. /opt/lampp/etc/proftpd.conf The ProFTPD configuration file. (since 0.9.5) /opt/lampp/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php The phpMyAdmin configuration file. * Stopping XAMPP To stop XAMPP simply call this command: /opt/lampp/lampp stop You should now see: Stopping LAMPP 1.5.5a... LAMPP: Stopping Apache... LAMPP: Stopping MySQL... LAMPP stopped. And XAMPP for Linux is stopped. * Uninstall To uninstall XAMPP just type in this command: rm -rf /opt/lampp The end. On 13/12/06, User Iam wrote: > Hi > > I want to learn MySQL > > > Did an apt-cache search MySQL > > There is a lot of stuff there!!!!!! > > What is the best min install... > -- Wasalam, Durahman ===================== http://durahman.wordpress.com/ https://durahman.wordpress.com From mikeosmith at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 02:23:15 2006 From: mikeosmith at gmail.com (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:23:15 -0500 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: sudo apt-get install cups-pdf (or search for it in synaptic) System->Administration->Printing->Add Printer, choose PDF, Select generic Postscript rev4. Prints to your home folder. On 12/12/06, John Dangler wrote: > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > windows box and print them out? > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From ljpino at grm.net Wed Dec 13 03:17:23 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:17:23 -0600 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <457F70C3.3060803@grm.net> John Dangler wrote: > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > windows box and print them out? > > > Along with all the other replies: If your printer /is/ working, and you just want to print a page without the side panes, highlight the part of the page that you want to print. Then, when the print dialog comes up, select print selection. That should only print what you have highlighted on the page. At least, it works for me. ~Lorin From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Wed Dec 13 05:03:16 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:03:16 -0500 Subject: test - please ignore Message-ID: <20061213050316.GA1616@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I apologize for this. I just need to see if I can get mail since my main box just died. So far it looks like I can send but for some reason I can't receive. - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFf4mUG9IpekrhBfIRAiztAKC66I3HcrJ3B++0h3R2mEmx95TeAQCggp27 mvj6vUFp3XJFCrfhjaaVVnY= =U83D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 05:38:28 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:38:28 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > > This also concerns me too... As long as those systems are up and still > running, we can't just throw it away. Alot of applications nowadays > are towards the use of _specific_ hardware, like XGL/AiGLX, but even > the oldest hardware can run 3D on software mode. Nowadays, people > thinks that there is no chance to use those freedesktop _standards_, > because inevitably it needs a decent expensive hardware > Did my other mail not arrive? It said: running Linux on a 486 is all well and good, but not necessarily the objective Ubuntu has. I'd rather not dilute Ubuntu to gain something that runs everywhere. After all, we already have Debian for this. Or NetBSD. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 13 06:09:16 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:09:16 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:38:28 +0100 "Adriano Varoli Piazza" wrote: > running Linux on a 486 is all > well and good, but not necessarily the objective Ubuntu has. I'd > rather not dilute Ubuntu to gain something that runs everywhere. LTSP with Edubuntu, for example - using old boxes as thin clients etc. To quote Oliver Grawert ( who is invoved in Edubuntu development and said this earlier in the thread, in case you didn't see it) in answer to: > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) yes, huge amounts of LTSP users, mediacenter PC users or people that run ubuntu based routers/firewalls on small HW ... there are many new boards that still require at least 486 comaptibility in the kernel ... Peter From martin.marcher at openforce.com Wed Dec 13 06:14:04 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:14:04 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> Hello, Am 13.12.2006 um 06:38 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > Did my other mail not arrive? It said: running Linux on a 486 is all > well and good, but not necessarily the objective Ubuntu has. I'd > rather not dilute Ubuntu to gain something that runs everywhere. After > all, we already have Debian for this. Or NetBSD. Jumping in here, I'm curious, what would you (or all the other people) gain if ubuntu dropped support for everything under a $CPU_IN_QUESTION According to that ubuntu could also drop support for those nice little sparc boxes it just got certified for. We could drop this support that's not the objective of ubuntu, you can run netbsd or debian on these boxes.... just my 2 $FAVORIT_SUB_CURRENCY_HERE martin From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 06:21:37 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:21:37 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > Hello, > > Am 13.12.2006 um 06:38 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > > > Did my other mail not arrive? It said: running Linux on a 486 is all > > well and good, but not necessarily the objective Ubuntu has. I'd > > rather not dilute Ubuntu to gain something that runs everywhere. After > > all, we already have Debian for this. Or NetBSD. > > Jumping in here, > > I'm curious, what would you (or all the other people) gain if ubuntu > dropped support for everything under a $CPU_IN_QUESTION > > According to that ubuntu could also drop support for those nice > little sparc boxes it just got certified for. We could drop this > support that's not the objective of ubuntu, you can run netbsd or > debian on these boxes.... > > just my 2 $FAVORIT_SUB_CURRENCY_HERE > > martin Well, the obvious answer would be "the developers Canonical pays for this would then be able to do something else to provide us with the best distro on the desktop", or, failing that (it's better to pay someone to do a job he/she already likes) "Canonical could pay developers to focus more on their specifical objectives". Edubuntu isn't Ubuntu, nor are Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Christian Linux (I don't recall the name, and due to a very interesting problem^Wopportunity here in Italy, I don't have access to most of the web), etc. They all have implicit assent from Canonical, it's all well and good, but they don't actually get paid. Which sometimes, when you want to push something off the door, is mighty important. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 06:29:22 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:29:22 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:38:28 +0100 > "Adriano Varoli Piazza" wrote: > > > running Linux on a 486 is all > > well and good, but not necessarily the objective Ubuntu has. I'd > > rather not dilute Ubuntu to gain something that runs everywhere. > > LTSP with Edubuntu, for example - using old boxes as thin clients etc. Perfect, but Edubuntu isn't Ubuntu, and their devs get paid accordingly (see my other mail, I don't mean to imply this is good, wrong or whatever, just that it is (or might be, if I'm not getting things wrong)). > To quote Oliver Grawert ( who is invoved in Edubuntu development and said > this earlier in the thread, in case you didn't see it) in answer to: > > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) > > > yes, huge amounts of LTSP users, mediacenter PC users or people that run > ubuntu based routers/firewalls on small HW ... "Huge" compared to what? Compared to the number of people who run Ubuntu for "Desktop" purposes? > there are many new boards that still require at least 486 comaptibility > in the kernel ... > > That still doesn't change a bit of the Ubuntu objectives. If Ubuntu is useful for them, more power to 'em, but I wouldn't want a worse distro on my desktop "just" because some users want it to work on low-end HW it wasn't advertised for. Canonical has stated it wants Ubuntu to be the best distro on the desktop. I installed it for this reason. It provides a good Linux server, too, with some restrictions: As of now, LTS won't even run on my server (62 MB RAM are the guilty party here). Do you see me protesting? No, I installed Sarge on it. The right tool for the right job, or something like that (Slack or Vector Linux would have sufficed too, but frankly, I don't have the time right now to learn another distro). -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From martin.marcher at openforce.com Wed Dec 13 06:37:17 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:37:17 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> Am 13.12.2006 um 07:21 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > On 12/13/06, Martin Marcher wrote: >> I'm curious, what would you (or all the other people) gain if ubuntu >> dropped support for everything under a $CPU_IN_QUESTION > > Well, the obvious answer would be "the developers Canonical pays for > this would then be able to do something else to provide us with the > best distro on the desktop", or, failing that (it's better to pay > someone to do a job he/she already likes) "Canonical could pay > developers to focus more on their specifical objectives". > > Edubuntu isn't Ubuntu, nor are Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Christian Linux (I > don't recall the name, and due to a very interesting > problem^Wopportunity here in Italy, I don't have access to most of the > web), etc. > > They all have implicit assent from Canonical, it's all well and good, > but they don't actually get paid. Which sometimes, when you want to > push something off the door, is mighty important. Still, I'd like to know what you expect to gain if dropping support for a certain CPU type (keep in mind it's still x86 not some seldomly used architecture) From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 06:37:50 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:37:50 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122237t46b79a3es28520547b1cf33f2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > According to that ubuntu could also drop support for those nice > little sparc boxes it just got certified for. We could drop this > support that's not the objective of ubuntu, you can run netbsd or > debian on these boxes.... Adding to my other mail, there's an important difference between these machines and 486 hardware: you can find them on the market, new. They aren't available only from thrift shops, garage sales, they come brand-new from Sun. Or is there a shop where you can get new 486 boards, processors, etc? If Canonical thinks they are better off with these certs, good. I'm not enthusiastic, partly because I don't own them, but it's not my choice. If Ubuntu's quality drops because of this, I'll see what to do. It's not as if I haven't had this choice before. I'm not trying to be polemic here, this is only my opinion too (I'm not a world expert, just a not-so-humble student). -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 06:43:06 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:43:06 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122243u50cec162qe5b4051ceab3e89e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > Still, I'd like to know what you expect to gain if dropping support > for a certain CPU type (keep in mind it's still x86 not some seldomly > used architecture) I said it in the message you answered to: "Well, the obvious answer would be "the developers Canonical pays for this would then be able to do something else to provide us with the best distro on the desktop", or, failing that (it's better to pay someone to do a job he/she already likes) "Canonical could pay developers to focus more on their specifical objectives"." That is what I'd expect to gain from the decision. It's an obvious answer too. Better gstreamer dvd support (at least some, gstreamer0.10-dvd doesn't yet exist, AFAIK), or better evince pdf printing support (only now being fixed, bug reported by me), "a better GNOME desktop" (always room for more polishing). Lots of stuff. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From martin.marcher at openforce.com Wed Dec 13 07:07:16 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:07:16 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122243u50cec162qe5b4051ceab3e89e@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122243u50cec162qe5b4051ceab3e89e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 13.12.2006 um 07:43 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > That is what I'd expect to gain from the decision. It's an obvious > answer too. Better gstreamer dvd support (at least some, > gstreamer0.10-dvd doesn't yet exist, AFAIK), or better evince pdf > printing support (only now being fixed, bug reported by me), "a better > GNOME desktop" (always room for more polishing). Lots of stuff. No pun intended but to me it sounds like you'd be better of with a distro that is more self made (customized). Maybe I'm a bit too old school (already ? - damn I'm getting really old) but printing, especially to pdfs has worked since I use linux, and has become especially easy with cups. Been a while since I had to deal with *cough* paper and *cough* analog data :) but I'm pretty sure I'd figure a quite usefull printing setup out again in less than half a day which includes all options I need (4 on 1 pages, yada yada, the usual stuff). About support, I'm doing my part and I am asking for written confirmation in the store that the hardware will work flawlessly with linux or I'll get my money back (even convinced a guy one time that the company has to get me a equivalent product if theirs wouldn't work, unfortunately it worked - I wonder what they'd come up with). I do think that there lies much more in educating users than you think. For the desktop I'm using apple at the moment and have various servers to maintain, most of them now run ubuntu, and why? Because of it's release cycles Because of it's 6.06 LTS We're even thinking about commercial support, so I'm using this old hardware (it's not my hardware but still) and I'm pretty sure that within the next 3 month's we'll have a support contract. Which in turn makes me pay the developers which in turn (you started talking about developers that get paid) would make my vote count more than yours (assuming you download ubuntu and don't buy it). martin PS: the mail could be a little confusing I'm going to be nearly 24h awake....well looking at the clock I AM 24H AWAKE. NEED COFFEE NEED CIGARETTES - so please be patient, I really didn't want to offend you even if some parts could sound like that, and I'm too lazy to read thru my mail again :) From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 07:26:31 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:26:31 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122243u50cec162qe5b4051ceab3e89e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612122326l35e39d15n1253460ad90e55fc@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > No pun intended but to me it sounds like you'd be better of with a > distro that is more self made (customized). Maybe I'm a bit too old No self-made distro before yesterday would have solved this bug, unless I fixed the source myself. > school (already ? - damn I'm getting really old) but printing, > especially to pdfs has worked since I use linux, and has become > especially easy with cups. > > Been a while since I had to deal with *cough* paper and *cough* > analog data :) but I'm pretty sure I'd figure a quite usefull > printing setup out again in less than half a day which includes all > options I need (4 on 1 pages, yada yada, the usual stuff). About Here, there's no way to convince Evince to print 2 or 4 pages in one correctly. When it actually does print 4 pages, it prints them in disorder. It's a fixed upstream bug as of yesterday, as I said. This isn't a weird printer, just a Samsung laser B/W printer that otherwise works fine. > I do think that there lies much more in educating users than you > think. For the desktop I'm using apple at the moment and have various > servers to maintain, most of them now run ubuntu, and why? Educating users? To find ancient hardware? Or to make the most of what they currently have? I'm currently _very_ angry at my telco (Telecom Italy), because apparently, malware infecting computers is the cause of me -and many others here- having routing problems. I.e. I can't see most sites, I can't download my mail (google and gmail are some of the few sites I can see, luckily), most of my net traffic times out. And not only did they not do anything to educate users before, they actually lied to me when I called and asked. I'm seriously thinking about writing a nice text to introduce my friends to this "malware" thing, and how it affects _me_ if _their_ computers are filled with crap. Suddenly, the idea of the ISP cutting net access to them until the users clean their machines is more and more appealing. I understand you can do a lot of stuff on "old" hardware. I have, and I still do. But what I wonder (as you are, with apparently different answers) is: is it fair to ask Ubuntu to support me on "ancient" HW? I'd say "no". You and others don't seem to think like me, that's all. > We're even thinking about commercial support, so I'm using this old > hardware (it's not my hardware but still) and I'm pretty sure that > within the next 3 month's we'll have a support contract. Which in > turn makes me pay the developers which in turn (you started talking > about developers that get paid) would make my vote count more than > yours (assuming you download ubuntu and don't buy it). I do, and I don't, respectively. Luckily for me, it doesn't work this way. And unless you or I start working for Canonical, I doubt this discussion will do much in this regard. > > martin > > PS: the mail could be a little confusing I'm going to be nearly 24h > awake....well looking at the clock I AM 24H AWAKE. NEED COFFEE NEED > CIGARETTES - so please be patient, I really didn't want to offend you > even if some parts could sound like that, and I'm too lazy to read > thru my mail again :) No offense taken. I've spent a max of 4 days awake, and it was "interesting". In a Chinese sense. Hope you can get some sleep soon. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl Wed Dec 13 07:38:06 2006 From: lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl (Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:38:06 +0100 Subject: Problem converting mov to avi Message-ID: <457FADDE.6090206@vandenieuwenhof.nl> I have a quicktime mov file that i want to convert to a file that can be used by Windows Media Converter. It's for uploading a video to a website. I tried using ffmpeg for this, and used this command: ffmpeg -i movies.mov -sameq -vcodec wmv3 -acodec wmav2 -f avi movies_final.avi But then i get this error: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0 What am i doing wrong and am i using the right options/codecs that Windows Media Encoder will probably like best (i know it's pretty picky about codecs). Regards, KenSentMe From vramnum10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 07:47:10 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:47:10 -0800 Subject: mysql In-Reply-To: <1365ade30612121818p18aa7f6dh1346734ef7ee09b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0612121759w7c69f53brec89984f2b0b8ba@mail.gmail.com> <1365ade30612121818p18aa7f6dh1346734ef7ee09b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612122347g79d40270ta07439008a4c41d0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the feedback User Iam On 12/12/06, maman durahman wrote: > > There is a lot of way to lear mysql. May be ( i have not try it yet) > an easiest way to install is XAMPP. With this you have mysql, apache, > php in one package. Phpmyadminn too, i think. > > With xampp you need not to install a think. Just download xampp, > extract to a folder, and start. > > Here is a complete writing about it, I found it from ubuntu forum and > others; > > HOWTO: Setup easy web development environment (XAMPP) > This is a how-to for setting up a web development environment easily. > This guide will install the XAMPP lampp stack into /opt, setup an easy > way to start it up and shut it down, and link a folder in your home > directory to the webserver. > > WARNING > This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not > be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the > directions on the Ubuntu wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP > > As this is Ubuntu, all the major parts of a typical web server are > included (in the main repo, or on the Ubuntu Server CD) and this is a > great way to setup a server. The ubuntu developers have prepared a > great web server and have made the process as seemless as possible. > > But what if even the official way is still to complicated? What if you > just want a quick web server for development? > > Fortunately there is the XAMPP project: > http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html. The XAMPP project bundles > Apache, PHP4 & 5, Perl, mySQL, and a bunch of other > utilities/applications into an simple package for Mac OSX, Windows, > Solaris, and Linux. Obviously this HOWTO only deals with the linux > version. > > For those of you with already existing Apache/mySQL/php installations > it installs everything into /opt so it doesn't conflict with any other > installation, and it is completely setup and ready to run. > > Install XAMPP > > Two easy steps: > > 1. Download the most recent version of XAMPP: (at time of writing > 1.5.3a) > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/x...ar.gz?download > (Source URL: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#374) > 2. Extract the archive to /opt using sudo: (make sure you are in > the directory that you downloaded the archive to) > Code: > > sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt > > > Start XAMPP > > To start it up, open a terminal and type this: > Code: > > sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start > > Stop XAMPP > > To stop it, open a terminal and type this: > Code: > > sudo /opt/lampp/lampp stop > > Additional XAMPP commands > > To see additional commands, open a terminal and type this: > Code: > > sudo /opt/lampp/lampp > > Sweet XAMPP Control Panel > > > > To use the sweet gtk/python control panel: > > Run in a terminal: > Code: > > gedit ~/.local/share/applications/xampp-control-panel.desktop > > Paste the following into the open file and save and exit. > Code: > > [Desktop Entry] Comment=Start/Stop XAMPP Name=XAMPP Control Panel > Exec=gksudo "python > /opt/lampp/share/xampp-control-panel/xampp-control-panel.py" > Icon[en_CA]=/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/devices/network-wired.svg > Encoding=UTF-8 Terminal=false Name[en_CA]=XAMPP Control Panel > Comment[en_CA]=Start/Stop XAMPP Type=Application > Icon=/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/devices/network-wired.svg > > "XAMPP Control Panel" will show up in your applications menu under > Internet. Use the Alacarte Menu Editor to move it around. > > Test to see if XAMPP is running > > Once XAMPP is up and running open firefox and go to: http://localhost/ > > You should see the XAMPP test page: > > > > Location of files and uploading > > XAMPP by default uses /opt/lampp/htdocs as the root web directory. The > easiest way to start working on files is to link a folder in your home > directory into this directory. > My user name is peter so I have /home/peter/public_html linked to > /opt/lampp/htdocs/peter. So if I navigate to http://localhost/peter/ I > get a listing of all the files/folders in that directory. (As long is > there isn't a index.php/html/etc file) > To set this up, run in a terminal: > > 1. Make public_html directory in home directory: > Code: > > mkdir ~/public_html > > 2. Link to /opt/lampp/htdocs > Code: > > sudo ln -s ~/public_html /opt/lampp/htdocs/$USER > > Now any files and folders you place in ~/public_html will be published > to your personal webserver. > > Bookmark http://localhost/username to make this easy to access. > > WARNING - SECURITY > http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#381 > Open holes: > > 1. The MySQL administrator (root) has no password. > 2. The MySQL daemon is accessible via network. > 3. ProFTPD uses the password "lampp" for user "nobody". > 4. PhpMyAdmin is accessible via network. > 5. Examples are accessible via network. > 6. MySQL and Apache running under the same user (nobody). > > This doesn't leave your whole system wide open, but someone could hack > your XAMPP installation, so be wary. > To fix most of the security weaknesses open a terminal and run: > Code: > > sudo /opt/lampp/lampp security > > START AND STOP PARAMETERS > Parameter Description > start Starts XAMPP. > stop Stops XAMPP. > restart Stops and starts XAMPP. > startapache Starts only the Apache. > startssl Starts the Apache SSL support. This command activates the > SSL support permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future SSL > will stay activated. > startmysql Starts only the MySQL database. > startftp Starts the ProFTPD server. Via FTP you can upload files > for > your web server (user "nobody", password "lampp"). This command > activates the ProFTPD permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the > future FTP will stay activated. > stopapache Stops the Apache. > stopssl Stops the Apache SSL support. This command deactivates the > SSL support permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future SSL > will stay deactivated. > stopmysql Stops the MySQL database. > stopftp Stops the ProFTPD server. This command deactivates the > ProFTPD permanently, e.g. if you restarts XAMPP in the future FTP will > stay deactivated. > security Starts a small security check programm. > For example: To start Apache with SSL support simply type in the > following command (as root): > > /opt/lampp/lampp startssl > > You can also access your Apache server via SSL under https://localhost. > * What is where? > What is where? A big question of our existens, here are some answers! ;) > IMPORTANT FILES AND DIRECTORIES > File/Directory Purpose > /opt/lampp/bin/ The XAMPP commands home. /opt/lampp/bin/mysql > calls > for example the MySQL monitor. > /opt/lampp/htdocs/ The Apache DocumentRoot directory. > /opt/lampp/etc/httpd.conf The Apache configuration file. > /opt/lampp/etc/my.cnf The MySQL configuration file. > /opt/lampp/etc/php.ini The PHP configuration file. > /opt/lampp/etc/proftpd.conf The ProFTPD configuration file. (since > 0.9.5) > /opt/lampp/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php The phpMyAdmin configuration file. > * Stopping XAMPP > To stop XAMPP simply call this command: > > /opt/lampp/lampp stop > > You should now see: > > Stopping LAMPP 1.5.5a... > LAMPP: Stopping Apache... > LAMPP: Stopping MySQL... > LAMPP stopped. > > And XAMPP for Linux is stopped. > * Uninstall > To uninstall XAMPP just type in this command: > > rm -rf /opt/lampp > > The end. > > On 13/12/06, User Iam wrote: > > Hi > > > > I want to learn MySQL > > > > > > Did an apt-cache search MySQL > > > > There is a lot of stuff there!!!!!! > > > > What is the best min install... > > > > -- > Wasalam, > Durahman > ===================== > http://durahman.wordpress.com/ > https://durahman.wordpress.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelpo at myjaring.net Wed Dec 13 08:00:39 2006 From: michaelpo at myjaring.net (michaelpo at myjaring.net) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:00:39 +0800 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122221s75d97032i404c5447096b9ac6@mail.gmail.com> <325C6C04-6EA5-4FED-9226-4C071AFB00F1@openforce.com> Message-ID: <457FB327.9080504@myjaring.net> Is it possible to pull out my p4 harddisk and swap it with my p2? Will ubuntu still bootup? Or does the different machines need their own initial installation? Martin Marcher wrote: > Still, I'd like to know what you expect to gain if dropping support > for a certain CPU type (keep in mind it's still x86 not some seldomly > used architecture) Is it possible to pull out my p4 harddisk and swap it with my p2? Will ubuntu still bootup? Or does the different machines need their own initial installation? -------------- next part -------------- The contents of this e-mail are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing or copying of this Message or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. In such a case, you should delete this Message immediately and advise the sender by return e-mail. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this Message that do not relate to the official business of Sarku shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by Sarku. From ogra at ubuntu.com Wed Dec 13 10:31:33 2006 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:31:33 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166005894.14629.52.camel@edubuntu> hi, Am Mittwoch, den 13.12.2006, 07:29 +0100 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > Perfect, but Edubuntu isn't Ubuntu, and their devs get paid > accordingly (see my other mail, I don't mean to imply this is good, > wrong or whatever, just that it is (or might be, if I'm not getting > things wrong)). I'm the only paid edubuntu developer and edubuntu is quite bigger than me ;) edubuntu is developed *inside* of ubuntu, like kubuntu and xubuntu are, every development i do in edubuntu is something ubuntu gets benefit from ... i.e. LTSP is essentially developed in edubuntu, simply because its our reference implementation of a deeply integrated LTSP by default, but that doesnt mean LTSP is limited to edubuntu, you can use it in ubuntu and get the results of the work done in edubuntu under ubuntu. > > > To quote Oliver Grawert ( who is invoved in Edubuntu development and said > > this earlier in the thread, in case you didn't see it) in answer to: > > > > > Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a 486? Like, anything the -generic > > > kernel can't run on? (-386 is a 486 kernel) > > > > > > yes, huge amounts of LTSP users, mediacenter PC users or people that run > > ubuntu based routers/firewalls on small HW ... > > "Huge" compared to what? Compared to the number of people who run > Ubuntu for "Desktop" purposes? please see the GNOME deployment study :) http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/docs/gnome-deployments-2006/index.html#thin-clients LTSP and thin client technology are the corporate environments of the future in my opinion, they significantly tear down the cost of maintenance through centralization ... > > > there are many new boards that still require at least 486 comaptibility > > in the kernel ... > > > > > > That still doesn't change a bit of the Ubuntu objectives. If Ubuntu is > useful for them, more power to 'em, but I wouldn't want a worse distro > on my desktop "just" because some users want it to work on low-end HW > it wasn't advertised for. thats the point, LTSP is a fully supported product, you can buy support for it at canonical if you like ... (our support center even runs completelly on LTSP) so indeed ubuntu *is* advised for such hardware ... > > Canonical has stated it wants Ubuntu to be the best distro on the > desktop. yes, but that doesnt limit it to your personal home desktop or laptop ... ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can this be done via > > MySQL's config or must it be done via the firewall and removing bind- > > address? > > > > My preferred way would be to create a user that can only connect from > 192.168.0.1 in MySQL. This can be done easily from phpmyadmin. Yup, but that still means opening up the port over the net, because bind-address must be removed. I ended up tunneling in over SSH. -- Best, Marc From ben at cvrse.com Wed Dec 13 11:06:29 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:06:29 +1100 Subject: Problem converting mov to avi In-Reply-To: <457FADDE.6090206@vandenieuwenhof.nl> References: <457FADDE.6090206@vandenieuwenhof.nl> Message-ID: <20061213110629.GA5523@rip.cvrse.com> * Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: > I have a quicktime mov file that i want to convert to a file that can be > used by Windows Media Converter. It's for uploading a video to a > website. I tried using ffmpeg for this, and used this command: > > ffmpeg -i movies.mov -sameq -vcodec wmv3 -acodec wmav2 -f avi > movies_final.avi > > But then i get this error: > > Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0 > > What am i doing wrong and am i using the right options/codecs that > Windows Media Encoder will probably like best (i know it's pretty picky > about codecs). do you have the codecs to encode to wmv3 + wmav2? check with ffmpeg -formats you need to have an E (encode) next to both formats -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 11:10:35 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:10:35 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <1166005894.14629.52.camel@edubuntu> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166005894.14629.52.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612130310k34f4af44m17128aa3fc389d78@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > edubuntu is developed *inside* of ubuntu, like kubuntu and xubuntu are, > every development i do in edubuntu is something ubuntu gets benefit > from ... i.e. LTSP is essentially developed in edubuntu, simply because > its our reference implementation of a deeply integrated LTSP by default, > but that doesnt mean LTSP is limited to edubuntu, you can use it in > ubuntu and get the results of the work done in edubuntu under ubuntu. And Ubuntu can enjoy many of the advances made by the Debian developers, too. It doesn't touch the point I was making. Somehow, when I choose to install Ubuntu, I as a desktop user don't do it because I can easily install LTSP, I do it because it provides me with an excellent desktop system off the CD, that runs on decent hardware, with certain limits (both lower, as in older hardware, and upper, as in "I might have some problems with the latest-and-greatest"). > > "Huge" compared to what? Compared to the number of people who run > > Ubuntu for "Desktop" purposes? > please see the GNOME deployment study :) > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/docs/gnome-deployments-2006/index.html#thin-clients Sorry, but I can't see the page right now, as I said in another mail in this thread. I'm lucky to be able to post here at all. I'll try afterwards. > LTSP and thin client technology are the corporate environments of the > future in my opinion, they significantly tear down the cost of > maintenance through centralization ... Yes, though Ubuntu is not planned as "the corporate environment of the future" right now, is it? I know Edubuntu has very good goals. Most Linux distros do, for that matter. And I thank you for setting me right in things I didn't know or was uncertain about. I doubt this has much to do with what I was talking about. > > That still doesn't change a bit of the Ubuntu objectives. If Ubuntu is > > useful for them, more power to 'em, but I wouldn't want a worse distro > > on my desktop "just" because some users want it to work on low-end HW > > it wasn't advertised for. > thats the point, LTSP is a fully supported product, you can buy support > for it at canonical if you like ... (our support center even runs > completelly on LTSP) so indeed ubuntu *is* advised for such hardware ... Good. Is this the main objective of _Ubuntu_ as a distro? Not Edubuntu, not ChristianBuntu, not etc. Ubuntu. I know I can download pretty much all I want after installing, even set up debian repos, compiling source, "alien-ating" rpm packages. They're not on the cd, I mean. It might sound a bit limiting, but it's not a limit I chose (I'm glad about it, though, that's why I use Ubuntu). I know I can buy support from whatever (not only Canonical, but consultants here, paying directly to developers possibly, etc.). I don't think this is the point. I don't think this is the main objective for Ubuntu. The "just" isn't meant to minimize your work, that's why I surrounded it with "". It's a very important job, which I myself happen not to be interested directly in, right now. > yes, but that doesnt limit it to your personal home desktop or > laptop ... No, but it certainly limits it, in my opinion, on things that aren't "home desktops" at all, like Edubuntu terminals. The limitation to go with GNOME or KDE is more arbitrary, even, but is the point I'm trying to make: "what should go in the CD to make it the best for this, that and that other thing?" According to what I see, not KDE, not LTSP, etc. Right off the CD, at least. I want to close this with an upbeat note: I appreciate your efforts, I thank you for dedicating your time to this. Many people enjoy your work, and I might too, in the future. I'm glad this project exists, and that you get paid to work directly on it. I hope I made myself clearer this time. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From ogra at ubuntu.com Wed Dec 13 11:46:57 2006 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:46:57 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612130310k34f4af44m17128aa3fc389d78@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166005894.14629.52.camel@edubuntu> <2cfc2c9f0612130310k34f4af44m17128aa3fc389d78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166010417.14629.73.camel@edubuntu> hi, Am Mittwoch, den 13.12.2006, 12:10 +0100 schrieb Adriano Varoli Piazza: > On 12/13/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > > edubuntu is developed *inside* of ubuntu, like kubuntu and xubuntu are, > > every development i do in edubuntu is something ubuntu gets benefit > > from ... i.e. LTSP is essentially developed in edubuntu, simply because > > its our reference implementation of a deeply integrated LTSP by default, > > but that doesnt mean LTSP is limited to edubuntu, you can use it in > > ubuntu and get the results of the work done in edubuntu under ubuntu. > > And Ubuntu can enjoy many of the advances made by the Debian > developers, too. It doesn't touch the point I was making. Somehow, > when I choose to install Ubuntu, I as a desktop user don't do it > because I can easily install LTSP, I do it because it provides me with > an excellent desktop system off the CD, that runs on decent hardware, > with certain limits (both lower, as in older hardware, and upper, as > in "I might have some problems with the latest-and-greatest"). debian developers arent paied for their work :) (at least not by canonical), your point was the paid worktime and where its dedicated to, wasnt it ? > > > "Huge" compared to what? Compared to the number of people who run > > > Ubuntu for "Desktop" purposes? > > please see the GNOME deployment study :) > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/docs/gnome-deployments-2006/index.html#thin-clients > > Sorry, but I can't see the page right now, as I said in another mail > in this thread. I'm lucky to be able to post here at all. I'll try > afterwards. well, its a study about gnome deployments, the feedback showed that 39% of all deployed desktops taking part in that study were running on thin clients ... > > > LTSP and thin client technology are the corporate environments of the > > future in my opinion, they significantly tear down the cost of > > maintenance through centralization ... > > Yes, though Ubuntu is not planned as "the corporate environment of the > future" right now, is it? what do you think canonical earns its revenue with ? indeed ubuntu is as much targeted at the home enduser as well as the corporate user... > > > That still doesn't change a bit of the Ubuntu objectives. If Ubuntu is > > > useful for them, more power to 'em, but I wouldn't want a worse distro > > > on my desktop "just" because some users want it to work on low-end HW > > > it wasn't advertised for. > > thats the point, LTSP is a fully supported product, you can buy support > > for it at canonical if you like ... (our support center even runs > > completelly on LTSP) so indeed ubuntu *is* advised for such hardware ... > > Good. Is this the main objective of _Ubuntu_ as a distro? its one of the objectives of ubuntu, yes > > yes, but that doesnt limit it to your personal home desktop or > > laptop ... > > No, but it certainly limits it, in my opinion, on things that aren't > "home desktops" at all, like Edubuntu terminals. The limitation to go > with GNOME or KDE is more arbitrary, even, but is the point I'm trying > to make: "what should go in the CD to make it the best for this, that > and that other thing?" According to what I see, not KDE, not LTSP, > etc. Right off the CD, at least. LTSP is on every ubuntu CD since breezy, its just not installed by the installer routine we use in edubuntu, select the expert install and you will find a "Build LTSP client environment" menu entry... The point of this thread is if ubuntu runs on 486 class CPUs and if it will continue to do so, canonical has a substantial interest in shipping things like LTSP since it will generate revenue, so indeed such hardware is and will be supported in the future, thats what i wanted to point out with my mails here, LTSP was just one example where you can buy brandnew hardware that requires a 486 compatible kernel. ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From moranar at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 12:00:13 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:00:13 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <1166010417.14629.73.camel@edubuntu> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166005894.14629.52.camel@edubuntu> <2cfc2c9f0612130310k34f4af44m17128aa3fc389d78@mail.gmail.com> <1166010417.14629.73.camel@edubuntu> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612130400q5d5e5e55h7c2050e90d7c6b82@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Oliver Grawert wrote: > debian developers arent paied for their work :) (at least not by > canonical), your point was the paid worktime and where its dedicated to, > wasnt it ? Ok, forget it. You make good points below, but this made me desist. Thanks for the info, but I don't want to keep this going further. I'm not going to change anybody's mind with these messages, it seems, and this was very cheap. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From asturiolists at gmx.net Wed Dec 13 12:05:04 2006 From: asturiolists at gmx.net (Claudio Clemens) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:05:04 +0100 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061204205010.62236.qmail@web26012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061213120504.GA5716@thorion.karameikos.my> 2006-12-04, 20:50 +0000, Anthony Gardner: > Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get some good > info on making Linux child safe for surfing. > > I want to get my nephews on to Linux (pref ubuntu) but I want it to be > safe. I'll be abroad and so I want to make it as secure as poss from > the beginning rather than having to refine things regulary. Hi All, I'd like add my 2 cents here after so many useful posts. I have 2 kids at home, and only one computer (actually only one desktop :-) ). And I do have prboom, and sharequake, and enemy territory installed. If just manage to make these brutal games only playable by me. Here how I did it: 1 - Create a new group "brutal" (addgroup brutal) 2 - Make all brutal binaries and data files owned by the brutal group (e.g. chgrp brutal /usr/local/bin/prboom, chgrp -R brutal /usr/local/share/prboom) 3 - Make the binaries and data files unreadable and unexecutable for "others" (e.g. chmod -R o-a /usr/local/bin/prboom /usr/local/share/prboom/*) 4 - Add me to the brutal group (addgroup claudio brutal) Now only me can play those games. I though about doing this with firefox... but that is not a very good solution :-) All commands are just what I remenber and may be not 100% correct (Only the meaning is correct). You need to be root, so you probably want to write "sudo" before all commands. 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Hi All, I'd like add my 2 cents here after so many useful posts. I have 2 kids at home, and only one computer (actually only one desktop :-) ). And I do have prboom, and sharequake, and enemy territory installed. If just manage to make these brutal games only playable by me. Here how I did it: 1 - Create a new group "brutal" (addgroup brutal) 2 - Make all brutal binaries and data files owned by the brutal group (e.g. chgrp brutal /usr/local/bin/prboom, chgrp -R brutal /usr/local/share/prboom) 3 - Make the binaries and data files unreadable and unexecutable for "others" (e.g. chmod -R o-a /usr/local/bin/prboom /usr/local/share/prboom/*) 4 - Add me to the brutal group (addgroup claudio brutal) Now only me can play those games. I though about doing this with firefox... but that is not a very good solution :-) All commands are just what I remenber and may be not 100% correct (Only the meaning is correct). You need to be root, so you probably want to write "sudo" before all commands. Good luck on getting your boxes child-safe ;-) Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. Claudio Clemens |------| Sarge |-------+ | : :' : asturio at gmx (.) net GNU/Linux User #79942 | | `. `' http://asturio.gmxhome.de/begin.html | | `- "YE GODS, I HAVE FEET??!" <- Userfriendly | *^ *^ <- Tribbles Praying -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Dec 13 11:10:21 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:10:21 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166008221.28842.1.camel@worldventures> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 07:29 +0100, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > On 12/13/06, Peter Garrett wrote: > Canonical has stated it wants Ubuntu to be the best distro on the > desktop. I installed it for this reason. It provides a good Linux > server, too, with some restrictions: As of now, LTS won't even run on > my server (62 MB RAM are the guilty party here). Do you see me > protesting? No, I installed Sarge on it. You're kidding!? 62 MB RAM for a server install won't suffice for LTS? Last time I installed Sarge it started up many more 'excess' services than Ubuntu did. Server Ubuntu really can't work on 62 MB? Gabe From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 15:15:52 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:15:52 -0200 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <1166008221.28842.1.camel@worldventures> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166008221.28842.1.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4413284c0612130715l455a0d67tb567092f14a647ec@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > server, too, with some restrictions: As of now, LTS won't even run on > > my server (62 MB RAM are the guilty party here). Do you see me > > protesting? No, I installed Sarge on it. > > You're kidding!? 62 MB RAM for a server install won't suffice for LTS? > Last time I installed Sarge it started up many more 'excess' services > than Ubuntu did. Server Ubuntu really can't work on 62 MB? My Ubuntu server installation uses about 51 MB, and that's with SSH, HTTP (with webmail), IMAP, SMTP and NTP servers + apt-cacher + dyndns client. I did have to install the 386 kernel as the generic was not working though... HTH, Hervé. From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 15:25:43 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:25:43 -0200 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612130715l455a0d67tb567092f14a647ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <20061213170916.628c969b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <2cfc2c9f0612122229o5517820aj525d6a021add20ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166008221.28842.1.camel@worldventures> <4413284c0612130715l455a0d67tb567092f14a647ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612130725r4132a536m9ae9e91d99c5edd@mail.gmail.com> Maybe readers of this thread will be interested to know the machine specs too (not a 486, but close-ish): - Mobile Pentium MMX at 233 MHz - 96 MB RAM - 4 GB disk (system uses less than 400 MB) Hervé. On 12/13/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > On 12/13/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > > server, too, with some restrictions: As of now, LTS won't even run on > > > my server (62 MB RAM are the guilty party here). Do you see me > > > protesting? No, I installed Sarge on it. > > > > You're kidding!? 62 MB RAM for a server install won't suffice for LTS? > > Last time I installed Sarge it started up many more 'excess' services > > than Ubuntu did. Server Ubuntu really can't work on 62 MB? > > My Ubuntu server installation uses about 51 MB, and that's with SSH, > HTTP (with webmail), IMAP, SMTP and NTP servers + apt-cacher + dyndns > client. > > I did have to install the 386 kernel as the generic was not working though... > > HTH, > Hervé. > From williams at astro.ox.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 15:41:34 2006 From: williams at astro.ox.ac.uk (Michael Williams) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:41:34 +0000 Subject: Reducing optical drive when playing audio CDs In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612120534u2d86683bp299e98e4201eccf6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061210174931.GD6082@astro.ox.ac.uk> <4413284c0612120534u2d86683bp299e98e4201eccf6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061213154134.GA18494@astro.ox.ac.uk> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:34:11AM -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > This is usually done by the application: Not according to the hdparm man page, which implies that this is an OS/hardware-level feature, and not something individual applications should worry about: -E Set cdrom speed. This is NOT necessary for regular operation, as the drive will automatically switch speeds on its own. But if you want to play with it, just supply a speed number after the option, usually a number like 2 or 4. > xine does that. I'm afraid that for me xine behaves in the same way as all the other CD playing applications I've tested -- very loud. I welcome suggestions! -- Mike From qt4x11 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 16:38:28 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:38:28 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, this did not fix the problem. I tried reinstalling via apt-get and via synaptic. Thank you again to everyone. 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I will investigate this a little further since my ATI drivers were rather outdated, So this is meant just to inform you.... Kind regards Eberhard From gcvisel at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 16:46:22 2006 From: gcvisel at gmail.com (Gerry Visel) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:46:22 -0600 Subject: MySQL Quietly Drops Support For Debian Linux Message-ID: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> >From Slashdot: Posted by kdawson on Wednesday December 13, @10:35AM from the any-color-as-long-as-it's-black dept. Databases Debian Linux volts writes "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. We learned of this when MySQL declined to sell us support for some new Debian-based servers. Our sales rep 'found out from engineering that the current Enterprise offering is no longer supported on Debian OS.' We were told that 'Generic Linux' in MySQL's list of supported platforms means 'generic versions of the implementations listed above'; not support for Linux in general." From aradsky at ne.rr.com Wed Dec 13 16:54:43 2006 From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:54:43 -0500 Subject: Need help in a conspiracy Message-ID: <45803053.7080300@ne.rr.com> My son in law is a High School music teacher and he's trying to translate his band music tapes to CD. I'm trying to convince him that UBUNTU is a good way to do it but he's a MS Windows user and is reluctant to install UBUNTU in his computer. As it is, he has some difficulty moving .wav files with MS Windows. He does let me use a UBUNTU CD on his computer after I eventually convinced him that it doesn't install on his computer and he's able to do some very basic operations. I'm trying to convince him to try doing with it with the UBUNTU CD but I have no experience with music recording so I'm not able to offer any reliable guidance. I feel that if I could demonstrate that it can be done with the UBUNTU CD he'd be convinced that he can do it too and he'd want to install it on the hard drive so he wouldn't need to wait for the the CD to set up. Can someone tell me where I can get information about copying taped music to CD with UBUNTU or perhaps offer some information from their own personal experience? alex From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 17:08:38 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:08:38 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> Do you mean it is all ok now? On 12/13/06, qt4x11 wrote: > Thanks, this did not fix the problem. I tried reinstalling via apt-get and > via synaptic. Thank you again to everyone. From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 17:10:33 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:10:33 -0200 Subject: Reducing optical drive when playing audio CDs In-Reply-To: <20061213154134.GA18494@astro.ox.ac.uk> References: <20061210174931.GD6082@astro.ox.ac.uk> <4413284c0612120534u2d86683bp299e98e4201eccf6@mail.gmail.com> <20061213154134.GA18494@astro.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4413284c0612130910w7280ffd6kbfe26bdf5a48e6db@mail.gmail.com> Maybe your drive does not support the command then. This is an ATAPI command AFAIK (which might be why hdparm is refusing it: hdparm is more for ATA commands). Hervé. On 12/13/06, Michael Williams wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:34:11AM -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > > This is usually done by the application: > > Not according to the hdparm man page, which implies that this is an > OS/hardware-level feature, and not something individual applications > should worry about: > > -E Set cdrom speed. This is NOT necessary for regular operation, > as the drive will automatically switch speeds on its own. But > if you want to play with it, just supply a speed number after > the option, usually a number like 2 or 4. > > > xine does that. > > I'm afraid that for me xine behaves in the same way as all the other CD > playing applications I've tested -- very loud. > > I welcome suggestions! > > -- Mike > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From qt4x11 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 17:17:07 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:17:07 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165962501.2891.21.camel@chronic> <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No, I am having the same problem. The last thing I tried was Wulfy's suggestion to reinstall python2.4-libxml2. This did not fix the problem. On 12/13/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Do you mean it is all ok now? > > On 12/13/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > Thanks, this did not fix the problem. I tried reinstalling via apt-get > and > > via synaptic. Thank you again to everyone. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Wed Dec 13 17:30:51 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:30:51 -0800 Subject: Dumb??? Dept.: host alias listings? Message-ID: <458038CB.808@shaw.ca> Hello list! I don't understand networking or aliases, and my brief googling is pulling up stuff that I don't understand more than I do. I'd really like to know a) if I should even concern myself with the host alias listings..., and b) if so, how do I remove/edit the host alias lists from my computer. My story so far: The other day, while pfutzing around in System/Administration/Network Settings/Hosts.... (I was *just* looking!), I noticed the Aliases column to the right of the IP Address column for 127.0.0.1 seemed blurred, or overwritten, so I clicked on the handy Properties button... [upmusic: theme from Jaws] What I could see was a comparatively long-ish list of aliases that I don't particularly recognize, e.g.: ... d.abnad.net e.abnad.net m3.abnad.net t.abnad.net adv.abv.bg bimg.abv.bg gtcc1.acecounter.com gtp1.acecounter.com acestats.com www.acestats.com http.acid-burn.info ads.active.com www.activesearch.com at.ad2click.nl cms.ad2click.nl ... ...as well as any number of aliases I would actively *prefer* to NOT have associated in any way with my computer, merely by virtue of their names, e.g.: ... counter12.sextracker.com counter13.sextracker.com counter14.sextracker.com counter15.sextracker.com counter16.sextracker.com clit.sextracker.com clit1.sextracker.com clit2.sextracker.com clit3.sextracker.com clit4.sextracker.com clit5.sextracker.com clit6.sextracker.com clit7.sextracker.com ... As far as I'm aware, this computer -- a single-user, generic box running edgy -- has not been physically compromised, nor is used to surf such sites. As always, any responses greatly appreciated. From toby_kelsey at ntlworld.com Wed Dec 13 17:50:14 2006 From: toby_kelsey at ntlworld.com (Toby Kelsey) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:50:14 +0000 Subject: Dapper volume-control Message-ID: <45803D56.2090800@ntlworld.com> I upgraded to Dapper with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after the GUI upgrade gave up, which mostly worked, but one thing that isn't functioning is the volume control. The volume control icon has an 'X' and right-click selecting 'open volume control' produces an error message "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" A far as I can see I have all the relevant gstreamer packages installed, and lspic shows my SB card: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS I have sound, but cannot adjust the volume. This error is similar the one mentioned here but my audio is already enabled. There seems to be a missing library which I can't find to install. What might be useful is the output from 'dpkg -l' for a standard Dapper install so I could compare it to what I actually have installed. Could someone send that to me? (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages.en.txt.gz is not it despite claims in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper). Cheers, Toby From ubuntu at tonix.org Wed Dec 13 17:51:26 2006 From: ubuntu at tonix.org (David Hart) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:51:26 +0000 Subject: Dumb??? Dept.: host alias listings? In-Reply-To: <458038CB.808@shaw.ca> References: <458038CB.808@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20061213175125.GA31299@mutt.jynn.tonix.org> On Wed 2006-12-13 09:30:51 -0800, David Armour wrote: > I don't understand networking or aliases, and my brief googling is > pulling up > stuff that I don't understand more than I do. I'd really like to know > a) if I should even concern myself with the host alias > listings..., and > b) if so, how do I remove/edit the host alias lists from my > computer. > > The other day, while pfutzing around in System/Administration/Network > Settings/Hosts.... > (I was *just* looking!), I noticed the Aliases column to the right of > the IP Address column > for 127.0.0.1 seemed blurred, or overwritten, so I clicked on the handy > Properties button... > > What I could see was a comparatively long-ish list of aliases that I > don't particularly > recognize, e.g.: [snip domain list] My guess is you've installed some kind of advert/tracker blocking software that's added certain domains to localhost aliases. (By aliasing the domains to localhost the requests don't reach the servers.) Have a look in /etc/hosts and post some of the output here. -- David Hart From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 18:06:54 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:06:54 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612131006r1cf23d3djc34c02eb88be3c3e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, qt4x11 wrote: > No, I am having the same problem. xmlXPathContextSetCache appeared in libxml2 2.6.26, which is the one on your system. Is it the _only_ one? We know that /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so is a link to /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so. So would you mind do this for me please: ls -l /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so* I hope to find an older version here, otherwise I am not getting it! Did you double-check the /etc/apt/sources.list file to be sure it's all edgy in there? You could also try: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, to make completely sure all is ok on that front... We'll get there. Hervé. From Herve at lucidia.net Wed Dec 13 18:13:49 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:13:49 -0200 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612131006r1cf23d3djc34c02eb88be3c3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <457F36D4.6060504@tiscali.co.uk> <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612131006r1cf23d3djc34c02eb88be3c3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612131013k57166df4h193acc096a0d48f5@mail.gmail.com> Could you also please try this (and give the output): apt-get install --reinstall libxml2 Hervé. On 12/13/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > On 12/13/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > No, I am having the same problem. > > xmlXPathContextSetCache appeared in libxml2 2.6.26, which is the one > on your system. Is it the _only_ one? We know that > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so is a link to > /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so. So > would you mind do this for me please: > ls -l /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so* > > I hope to find an older version here, otherwise I am not getting it! > Did you double-check the /etc/apt/sources.list file to be sure it's > all edgy in there? > You could also try: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, to make completely > sure all is ok on that front... > > We'll get there. > Hervé. > From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Wed Dec 13 18:24:53 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Dumb??? Dept.: host alias listings? References: <458038CB.808@shaw.ca> <20061213175125.GA31299@mutt.jynn.tonix.org> Message-ID: David Hart tonix.org> writes: > > On Wed 2006-12-13 09:30:51 -0800, David Armour wrote: > > > I don't understand networking or aliases, and my brief googling is > > pulling up > > stuff that I don't understand more than I do. I'd really like to know > > a) if I should even concern myself with the host alias > > listings..., and > > b) if so, how do I remove/edit the host alias lists from my > > computer. > > > > The other day, while pfutzing around in System/Administration/Network > > Settings/Hosts.... > > (I was *just* looking!), I noticed the Aliases column to the right of > > the IP Address column > > for 127.0.0.1 seemed blurred, or overwritten, so I clicked on the handy > > Properties button... > > > > What I could see was a comparatively long-ish list of aliases that I > > don't particularly > > recognize, e.g.: > [snip domain list] > > My guess is you've installed some kind of advert/tracker blocking > software that's added certain domains to localhost aliases. (By aliasing > the domains to localhost the requests don't reach the servers.) Thank you for your reply, both for jogging my memory, and for the explanation of one of the functions of aliasing to localhost! I wish I had some sort of google ability with my danged memory. I *had* installed a script (see below) a few weeks back. > > Have a look in /etc/hosts and post some of the output here. # This MVPS HOSTS file is a free download from: # # http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ # # # # Notes: the browser does not read this "#" symbol # # You can create your own notes, after the # symbol # # This *must* be the first line: 127.0.0.1 localhost # # ********************************************************# # ------------------Updated: 09-27-06---------------------# # ********************************************************# # Entries marked with Parasite or Trojan comments should # # be placed in the Internet Explorer Restricted Zone. # # http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm # # # # Entries with other comments are searchable via Google. # # # # Disclaimer: this file is free to use, however it is NOT # # permitted to post on any other site without permission. # # # # This work is licensed under the Creative Commons # # Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License. # # http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ # 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost workhorse2 #start of lines added by WinHelp2002 # [Misc A - Z] > From yorlick at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 18:38:33 2006 From: yorlick at gmail.com (yorlick kilroy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:38:33 +0100 Subject: SMP with Ubuntu 6.10 Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get the most out of my Intel Core 2 Duo on Ubuntu 6.10. I read that you need to install the SMP kernel in order to get multiprocessor support on ubuntu. I currently have the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel running on my Ubuntu installation and "top" tells me that I have 2 CPUs. When I search for an smp package in synaptic, the package manager tell me that the linux-686-smp is obsoleted by the linux-image-generic which is the current image installed. This confuses me. Does this mean that I don't need to install any SMP packages as they are all included already? Is there a good benchmark for dual core CPUs for linux? cheers Yorlick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 18:48:03 2006 From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:48:03 -0500 Subject: SMP with Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <351278b80612131048m78b0e97at984407af2c1b9107@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, yorlick kilroy wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get the most out of my Intel Core 2 Duo on Ubuntu 6.10. I read > that you need to install the SMP kernel in order to get multiprocessor > support on ubuntu. I currently have the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel running > on my Ubuntu installation and "top" tells me that I have 2 CPUs. When I > search for an smp package in synaptic, the package manager tell me that the > linux-686-smp is obsoleted by the linux-image-generic which is the current > image installed. > > This confuses me. Does this mean that I don't need to install any SMP > packages as they are all included already? Is there a good benchmark for > dual core CPUs for linux? The advice you read was valid for earlier versions; in 6.10, the kernel was changed to have smp support by default. As long as "top" shows both, they're both there and working. From sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com Wed Dec 13 18:48:30 2006 From: sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com (Matthew Nicholson) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:48:30 -0500 Subject: SMP with Ubuntu 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: as far as i know, with the -generic kernel, your all set. i find teh easier way to make sure is to open up System->Administration->System Monitor, then goto the Resources tab. if you see 2 cpus there, your all set. a neat "trick" i picked up is setting MAKE flags in your bashrc to have make run concurrent compile commands, according to the nubmer of cpus/cores you have: export MAKEFLAGS="-j`ls -1 /sys/devices/system/cpu | wc -l`" cheers Matt On 12/13/06, yorlick kilroy wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get the most out of my Intel Core 2 Duo on Ubuntu 6.10. I > read that you need to install the SMP kernel in order to get multiprocessor > support on ubuntu. I currently have the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel > running on my Ubuntu installation and "top" tells me that I have 2 CPUs. > When I search for an smp package in synaptic, the package manager tell me > that the linux-686-smp is obsoleted by the linux-image-generic which is the > current image installed. > > This confuses me. Does this mean that I don't need to install any SMP > packages as they are all included already? Is there a good benchmark for > dual core CPUs for linux? > > cheers > Yorlick > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From qt4x11 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 18:55:50 2006 From: qt4x11 at gmail.com (qt4x11) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:55:50 -0600 Subject: update-manager broken after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612131013k57166df4h193acc096a0d48f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <457F417D.7050102@tiscali.co.uk> <457F482F.5030502@tiscali.co.uk> <4413284c0612130908r1dc97cf1kdc184460607af1a4@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612131006r1cf23d3djc34c02eb88be3c3e@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612131013k57166df4h193acc096a0d48f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks. Here's the output [12:53 0.26] [user at host 1 ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so* 272 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 273996 2006-10-13 15:43 /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so [12:53 0.37] [user at host 3 ~]$ [12:54 0.13] [user at host 3 ~]$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxml2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/741kB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y (Reading database ... 184707 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libxml2 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 (using .../libxml2_2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libxml2 ... Setting up libxml2 (2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4) ... [12:54 0.38] On 12/13/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Could you also please try this (and give the output): > apt-get install --reinstall libxml2 > > Hervé. > > On 12/13/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > On 12/13/06, qt4x11 wrote: > > > No, I am having the same problem. > > > > xmlXPathContextSetCache appeared in libxml2 2.6.26, which is the one > > on your system. Is it the _only_ one? We know that > > /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/libxml2mod.so is a link to > > /usr/lib/python-support/python-libxml2/python2.4/libxml2mod.so. 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Time for a nap. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 19:52:37 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:52:37 +0000 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <4580532F.10107@systemstheory.net> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> <4580532F.10107@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <45391f280612131152q1d3d9320oc2b31cb80f13fb40@mail.gmail.com> On 13/12/06, sdavmor wrote: > > > Exactly. If that's what you need, then go do it. 7 easy words. > Problem fixed. Time for a nap. > That's only six. 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After all, by the same reasoning "nautilus-open-terminal" is a single word. Saludos -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From dennismouille at yahoo.com Wed Dec 13 20:20:58 2006 From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:20:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: video Message-ID: <361044.57882.qm@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone know why I can view video files from cnn.com but not foxnews.com? I can get sound from foxnews.com, but no video. dennis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Wed Dec 13 20:36:53 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:36:53 -0600 Subject: Need help in a conspiracy In-Reply-To: <45803053.7080300@ne.rr.com> References: <45803053.7080300@ne.rr.com> Message-ID: <45806465.1010305@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 alex wrote: > My son in law is a High School music teacher and he's trying to > translate his band music tapes to CD. I'm trying to convince him that > UBUNTU is a good way to do it but he's a MS Windows user and is > reluctant to install UBUNTU in his computer. As it is, he has some > difficulty moving .wav files with MS Windows. > > He does let me use a UBUNTU CD on his computer after I eventually > convinced him that it doesn't install on his computer and he's able to > do some very basic operations. > > I'm trying to convince him to try doing with it with the UBUNTU CD but I > have no experience with music recording so I'm not able to offer any > reliable guidance. I feel that if I could demonstrate that it can be > done with the UBUNTU CD he'd be convinced that he can do it too and he'd > want to install it on the hard drive so he wouldn't need to wait for the > the CD to set up. > > Can someone tell me where I can get information about copying taped > music to CD with UBUNTU or perhaps offer some information from their own > personal experience? Well, there's always the "line-in" port on the sound card; just plug in the tape player, set the volume, and run Audacity (in the repo) to capture from "Aux" or whatever they call it on the card. I've used Audacity for a lot of things, but directly from tape isn't one of them, though there's no reason it wouldn't work just fine. Heck, it's even fun. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgGRl6PLtRzZbdhYRAjw7AJ95ZVmzwbs/UnJBiYK7IUCgkipnkgCeN8TS fXoQaVYPIn0N9L3EOi4leLI= =z517 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yorlick at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 20:39:59 2006 From: yorlick at gmail.com (yorlick kilroy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:39:59 +0100 Subject: gtk-window-decorator not found Message-ID: Hi, I've installed XGL and compiz and got it running. Works pretty well, but when I add the command: gtk-window-decorator --replace, I get the the message that "gtk-window-decorator: command not found". 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Also when the computer resumes from hibernate the screen res is not correct but a standar 640x480. Have been living with this prob for a year now, just install Edgy and would love to finally solve it :) Thank you Gabe From tony.kruse at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 20:51:52 2006 From: tony.kruse at gmail.com (Tony K.) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:51:52 -0500 Subject: Firefox, switch default mp3 player away from Totem. Message-ID: <52fe24490612131251j528803b7wee5c934198de82ba@mail.gmail.com> I have recently noticed (since installing to Ubuntu 6.10?) that Totem wants to automatically start up to play mp3's when using Firefox. I cannot find where to change the preferences to use another application like XMMS. How do I change the preferences? The download save box does not ask me whether or not I want to open the mp3 with another application. From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Wed Dec 13 21:04:00 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:04:00 -0800 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612131157i301307e3k3c7ea1a4fc9f74d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> <4580532F.10107@systemstheory.net> <45391f280612131152q1d3d9320oc2b31cb80f13fb40@mail.gmail.com> <2cfc2c9f0612131157i301307e3k3c7ea1a4fc9f74d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45806AC0.9040106@systemstheory.net> Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > On 12/13/06, Steve Flynn wrote: >> On 13/12/06, sdavmor wrote: >>> Exactly. If that's what you need, then go do it. 7 easy words. >>> Problem fixed. Time for a nap. >>> >> That's only six. What's the seventh? > > I think he took apt and get as separate words. After all, by the same > reasoning "nautilus-open-terminal" is a single word. > > Saludos Exactly. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Wed Dec 13 21:13:14 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:13:14 +0100 Subject: gtk-window-decorator not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061213221314.c41b5b49.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "yorlick kilroy" wrote: > I've installed XGL and compiz and got it running. Works pretty well, but > when I add the command: gtk-window-decorator --replace, I get the the > message that "gtk-window-decorator: command not found". I can't find it > anywhere using synaptic. Apparently its supposed to be included in the > Compiz package? Where can I download it from? Don't panic, most probably it's already installed, it's just that you mistyped it: it's not called GTK-window-decorator, but GNOME-window-decorator... ;-) -- Vince From dragffy at yandex.ru Wed Dec 13 21:17:33 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:17:33 +0000 Subject: Edgy takes a long time to start up Message-ID: <1166044653.5073.2.camel@worldventures> Goes past GRUB selection and then it just sits there for half a minutes with the progress bar not... progressing. Check the output on F1 and it doesn't get as far as mounting the logical volumes. There is no HDD activity of any kind. Seems a bit abnormal - is it? Also ALT+F8 won't show any output, what happened to this? Otherwise I am loving Edgy, generally seems more streamlined, and version 1.4.2 of Lyx in the repos is a bonus :D From yorlick at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 21:19:54 2006 From: yorlick at gmail.com (yorlick kilroy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:19:54 +0100 Subject: gtk-window-decorator not found In-Reply-To: <20061213221314.c41b5b49.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061213221314.c41b5b49.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: ooops! youre right! *blush* On 12/13/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > "yorlick kilroy" wrote: > > I've installed XGL and compiz and got it running. Works pretty well, but > > when I add the command: gtk-window-decorator --replace, I get the the > > message that "gtk-window-decorator: command not found". I can't find it > > anywhere using synaptic. Apparently its supposed to be included in the > > Compiz package? Where can I download it from? > > Don't panic, most probably it's already installed, it's just that you > mistyped it: it's not called GTK-window-decorator, but > GNOME-window-decorator... ;-) > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Wed Dec 13 21:32:55 2006 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Edgy takes a long time to start up Message-ID: <881611.29875.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Goes past GRUB selection and then it just sits there for half a minutes > with the progress bar not... progressing. Check the output on F1 and it > doesn't get as far as mounting the logical volumes. There is no HDD > activity of any kind. Seems a bit abnormal - is it? > > Also ALT F8 won't show any output, what happened to this? > > Otherwise I am loving Edgy, generally seems more streamlined, and > version 1.4.2 of Lyx in the repos is a bonus :D > > > My computer does the same thing from time to time. Most of the time it starts up in under a minute but then other times it will seem to hang for a while like you described. Brandon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From jw at raven.inka.de Wed Dec 13 21:37:43 2006 From: jw at raven.inka.de (Josef Wolf) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:37:43 +0100 Subject: How to get preseeded proxy setting from debconf? Message-ID: <20061213213743.GF316@raven.wolf.local> Hello! While installing, debian-installer asks for a proxy to use to fetch additional packages. I have preseeded this question with: d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://proxy.do.main:1234 This setting is configured into apt, so apt-get works seamlessly. The setting is also recorded in /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat. Unfortunately, no other packages get this setting configured, so apt-get is virtually the _only_ application that happens to use the proxy. I'd like to fix that in an automated way. So I've done for owner in `debconf-show --listowners` ; do echo $i debconf-show $owner echo done | grep proxy to find out the setting. But for some reason, debconf seems not to know about this setting. Any ideas where it gets lost? From John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk Wed Dec 13 22:28:48 2006 From: John at DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk (John) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:28:48 +0000 Subject: MySQL Quietly Drops Support For Debian Linux In-Reply-To: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> References: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45807EA0.3080204@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Gerry Visel wrote: > From Slashdot: > Posted by kdawson on Wednesday December 13, @10:35AM > from the any-color-as-long-as-it's-black dept. > > Databases Debian Linux volts writes "MySQL quietly deprecated support > for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' > support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports > only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux > Enterprise Server. We learned of this when MySQL declined to sell us > support for some new Debian-based servers. Our sales rep 'found out > from engineering that the current Enterprise offering is no longer > supported on Debian OS.' We were told that 'Generic Linux' in MySQL's > list of supported platforms means 'generic versions of the > implementations listed above'; not support for Linux in general." > > Time to migrate from LAmP to LAPP? (PostgreSQL) J From james at gray.net.au Wed Dec 13 22:55:57 2006 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:55:57 +1100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200612140955.58196.james@gray.net.au> On Tuesday 12 December 2006 14:19, Doug Rintoul wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 06:22 +1100, James Gray wrote: > > Gah - the "Macs are expensive" myth. Go and find a non-Mac lappy > > with Intel Core2 >= 2GHz, and a comparable mix of built in extras > > (dedicated video card and video RAM - on the Pro models, wifi, > > ethernet, firewire, DVD+/-RW, bluetooth, webcam, etc, etc) and then > > compare it to a MacBook or MacBook Pro. Macs are not particularly > > expensive, but they are damned cool and come with one of the most > > useable and mature desktop operating systems in the world (OSX). > > Gah, the myth that "Macs are the same price as an equivalently equipped > PC". I wish that were the case because I would have jumped on it a > flash. I just bought a Dell Inspiron... -->8-- SNIPPED -->8-- Heheh - comparing a Dell with a Mac....that's the best laugh I've had in a while :) Thanks! James -- "Ain't that something what happened today. One of us got traded to Kansas City." -- Casey Stengel, informing outfielder Bob Cerv he'd been traded. From ehodgins at telusplanet.net Wed Dec 13 22:59:50 2006 From: ehodgins at telusplanet.net (Hodgins Family) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:59:50 -0700 Subject: MySQL Quietly Drops Support For Debian Linux In-Reply-To: <45807EA0.3080204@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> References: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> <45807EA0.3080204@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <1166050790.27860.2.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2006-13-12 at 22:28 +0000, John wrote: > Gerry Visel wrote: > > From Slashdot: > > Posted by kdawson on Wednesday December 13, @10:35AM > > from the any-color-as-long-as-it's-black dept. > > > > Databases Debian Linux volts writes "MySQL quietly deprecated support > > for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' > > support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports > > only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux > > Enterprise Server. We learned of this when MySQL declined to sell us > > support for some new Debian-based servers. Our sales rep 'found out > > from engineering that the current Enterprise offering is no longer > > supported on Debian OS.' We were told that 'Generic Linux' in MySQL's > > list of supported platforms means 'generic versions of the > > implementations listed above'; not support for Linux in general." > > > > > Time to migrate from LAmP to LAPP? (PostgreSQL) Must have missed something here? This link http://www.mysql.com/support/supportedplatforms/enterprise.html shows that Sarge is still supported. > From stude.list at googlemail.com Wed Dec 13 23:05:30 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:05:30 +0000 Subject: Version Control on a USB Memory stick Message-ID: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> Hi I am developing some code for a University project. I am developing on 2 machines, one at home and on at University. The one located at the University has no Internet connection. Currently I am just copying the files to a USB stick when I have finished editing, but eventually I can guarantee I will copy files in the wrong direction, or forget to copy them to the stick and alter both copies or erase some changes. I have used version control for managing code before, and although it is normally used for managing code from different developers I was wondering whether it could be leveraged to help mitigate the risk of me being stupid and editing the copies wrongly. I can't use a shared or online drive as the machine located at the University has no network access (its a Linux machine, and I can't get it working properly on the University network). Is it safe to put a CVS or Subversion repository on a USB stick? Does anyone know of any better solutions to my problem or have an recommendations to what version control I could use? Both machines are running Ubuntu 6.06. The Version Control working on Windows might be an advantage but as the Windows machines are locked down to prevent software installation then I doubt it matters too much (anyway developing on Linux is much nicer, plus the code is for an embedded system running Linux so it needs to be compiled and run on Linux) Thanks for any advice you guys can provide _ Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From ehodgins at telusplanet.net Wed Dec 13 23:10:33 2006 From: ehodgins at telusplanet.net (Hodgins Family) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:10:33 -0700 Subject: MySQL Quietly Drops Support For Debian Linux MORE INFO In-Reply-To: <1166050790.27860.2.camel@localhost> References: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> <45807EA0.3080204@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <1166050790.27860.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166051433.27860.5.camel@localhost> > > > Databases Debian Linux volts writes "MySQL quietly deprecated support > > > for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' > > > support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports > > > only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux > > > Enterprise Server. We learned of this when MySQL declined to sell us > Must have missed something here? This link > http://www.mysql.com/support/supportedplatforms/enterprise.html > > shows that Sarge is still supported. More info is at this link: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/12/13/1515217.shtml where it says: Update: 12/13 20:52 GMT by J : MySQL AB's Director of Architecture (and former Slash programmer) Brian Aker corrects an apparent miscommunication in a blog post: "we are just starting to roll out [Enterprise] binaries... We don't build binaries for Debian in part because the Debian community does a good job themselves... If you call MySQL and you have support we support you if you are running Debian (the same with Suse, RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu and others)... someone in Sales was left with the wrong information" From ehodgins at telusplanet.net Wed Dec 13 23:10:33 2006 From: ehodgins at telusplanet.net (Hodgins Family) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:10:33 -0700 Subject: MySQL Quietly Drops Support For Debian Linux MORE INFO In-Reply-To: <1166050790.27860.2.camel@localhost> References: <76800d9c0612130846n2714cd31q394c2475c8046c30@mail.gmail.com> <45807EA0.3080204@DMJ-Consultancy.co.uk> <1166050790.27860.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166051433.27860.5.camel@localhost> > > > Databases Debian Linux volts writes "MySQL quietly deprecated support > > > for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' > > > support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports > > > only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux > > > Enterprise Server. We learned of this when MySQL declined to sell us > Must have missed something here? This link > http://www.mysql.com/support/supportedplatforms/enterprise.html > > shows that Sarge is still supported. More info is at this link: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/12/13/1515217.shtml where it says: Update: 12/13 20:52 GMT by J : MySQL AB's Director of Architecture (and former Slash programmer) Brian Aker corrects an apparent miscommunication in a blog post: "we are just starting to roll out [Enterprise] binaries... We don't build binaries for Debian in part because the Debian community does a good job themselves... If you call MySQL and you have support we support you if you are running Debian (the same with Suse, RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu and others)... someone in Sales was left with the wrong information" From phummers at iname.com Wed Dec 13 23:27:25 2006 From: phummers at iname.com (Peter Hummers) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:27:25 -0500 Subject: The End of Linux In-Reply-To: <4580532F.10107@systemstheory.net> References: <1165426383.5322.63.camel@wadesmart> <20061206133426.2238596b.phummers@iname.com> <1165453294.29206.1.camel@rockarolla> <4580532F.10107@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <20061213182725.67dba632.phummers@iname.com> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:23:27 -0800 sdavmor wrote: > Ulrich Steffens wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 13:34 -0500 schrieb Peter Hummers: > >> The author's main point seems to suggest that there can be no combination > >> of WYSIWYG and command-line interfaces, which is rubbish on its face > >> (except in Gnome, maybe, where the file browser won't even let you > >> "Open Terminal Here" in a window). > > > > sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal > > > > ulrich > > Exactly. If that's what you need, then go do it. 7 easy words. > Problem fixed. Time for a nap. I know that. I was just complaining about Gnome. I use xubuntu/thunar (which doesn't treat me like a Windows user). -- Peter Hummers == Peter Hummers covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at Outer Banks Onstage http://phummers.typepad.com/obxonstage From labradley at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 00:00:41 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:00:41 -0600 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? Message-ID: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: Home Folder Storage Media Network Folders Trash Applications About Kubuntu Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to allow me to browse to /. Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From labradley at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 00:37:21 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:37:21 -0600 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? In-Reply-To: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> References: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <45809CC1.7070304@mindspring.com> Never mind. I found the answer in an Edgy Eft thread and can now easily open Konqueror in File Manager mode and select the root heirachy. Larry Larry Alkoff wrote: > How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening > "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: > > Home Folder > Storage Media > Network Folders > Trash > Applications > About Kubuntu > > > Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to > allow me to browse to /. > > Larry > -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From ljpino at grm.net Thu Dec 14 00:42:20 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:42:20 -0600 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? In-Reply-To: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> References: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <45809DEC.5090704@grm.net> Larry Alkoff wrote: > How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening > "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: > > Home Folder > Storage Media > Network Folders > Trash > Applications > About Kubuntu > > > Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to > allow me to browse to /. > > Larry > > Have you thought of navigating there, and then adding that file location as a bookmark? I thought there was a way to save the way you want Konq to look when it opens, but I haven't used it (Konq) much for a while. If there is a setting for that, then you could have it start with the navigation side panel open. That has a tab for the root file system. Good luck. ~Lorin From james at gray.net.au Thu Dec 14 01:19:33 2006 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:19:33 +1100 Subject: Version Control on a USB Memory stick In-Reply-To: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612141219.33895.james@gray.net.au> On Thursday 14 December 2006 10:05, Andy wrote: > Is it safe to put a CVS or Subversion repository on a USB stick? Yes - done it before and it worked well. > Does anyone know of any better solutions to my problem or have an > recommendations to what version control I could use? Simple projects can probably be managed quite nicely with CVS, however, Subversion has some nice features that make it easier to work with (especially if you're in need of renaming files or moving them around the source tree). > Both machines are running Ubuntu 6.06. No problems - just make sure the USB key is always mounted in the same place and you'll be fine. Both KDE and Gnome have really neat tools to interface with CVS and SVN...or you can use the command line :) > The Version Control working on Windows might be an advantage but as > the Windows machines are locked down to prevent software installation > then I doubt it matters too much (anyway developing on Linux is much > nicer, plus the code is for an embedded system running Linux so it > needs to be compiled and run on Linux) Tortoise CVS (http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) is a Windows program that embeds CVS control neatly into the UI. There is also a Tortoise for SVN if you'd prefer (http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/). > Thanks for any advice you guys can provide HTH :) James -- Real Users are afraid they'll break the machine -- but they're never afraid to break your face. From aradsky at ne.rr.com Thu Dec 14 01:36:05 2006 From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:36:05 -0500 Subject: Need help in a conspiracy In-Reply-To: <45806465.1010305@fahrlander.net> References: <45803053.7080300@ne.rr.com> <45806465.1010305@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <4580AA85.4070602@ne.rr.com> Brian Fahrlander wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >alex wrote: > > >>My son in law is a High School music teacher and he's trying to >>translate his band music tapes to CD. I'm trying to convince him that >>UBUNTU is a good way to do it but he's a MS Windows user and is >>reluctant to install UBUNTU in his computer. As it is, he has some >>difficulty moving .wav files with MS Windows. >> >>He does let me use a UBUNTU CD on his computer after I eventually >>convinced him that it doesn't install on his computer and he's able to >>do some very basic operations. >> >>I'm trying to convince him to try doing with it with the UBUNTU CD but I >>have no experience with music recording so I'm not able to offer any >>reliable guidance. I feel that if I could demonstrate that it can be >>done with the UBUNTU CD he'd be convinced that he can do it too and he'd >>want to install it on the hard drive so he wouldn't need to wait for the >>the CD to set up. >> >>Can someone tell me where I can get information about copying taped >>music to CD with UBUNTU or perhaps offer some information from their own >>personal experience? >> >> > > Well, there's always the "line-in" port on the sound card; just plug >in the tape player, set the volume, and run Audacity (in the repo) to >capture from "Aux" or whatever they call it on the card. > > I've used Audacity for a lot of things, but directly from tape isn't >one of them, though there's no reason it wouldn't work just fine. > > Heck, it's even fun. > > Unfortunately, when I sent him the address for downloading 'audacity' he noticed that it was also available for MS Windows. So, now I have find another ploy to get him into UBUNTU alex From jbinpg at shaw.ca Thu Dec 14 01:59:38 2006 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:59:38 -0800 Subject: Firefox, switch default mp3 player away from Totem. In-Reply-To: <52fe24490612131251j528803b7wee5c934198de82ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <52fe24490612131251j528803b7wee5c934198de82ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061214015938.GA10708@shaw.ca> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 03:51:52PM -0500, Tony K. wrote: > I have recently noticed (since installing to Ubuntu 6.10?) that Totem > wants to automatically start up to play mp3's when using Firefox. I > cannot find where to change the preferences to use another application > like XMMS. How do I change the preferences? The download save box > does not ask me whether or not I want to open the mp3 with another > application. A happy mplayer user here. I got rid of the associations by just nuking all the libtotem links and files in the various browser plugins directories. rm -f libtotem* is your friend. Jack From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Thu Dec 14 01:19:20 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:19:20 +0100 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? References: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <87fybj1dgn.fsf@fjellstad.org> Larry Alkoff writes: > How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening > "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: > > Home Folder > Storage Media > Network Folders > Trash > Applications > About Kubuntu > > > Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to > allow me to browse to /. View->Show Hidden Files or see here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Thu Dec 14 02:12:23 2006 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:12:23 -0800 Subject: 915resolution howto In-Reply-To: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Sony laptop, it uses 1280x800 screen res from an intel 915gm > onboard graphics. > > I have always used 915resoution like this: > # 915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add the line: > /usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then I can ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x-server and get the new > resolution. Question is, this doesn't seem the right approach 'cause the > 915res website says you need to edit xorg.conf and I have no idea > how...? > > Also when the computer resumes from hibernate the screen res is not > correct but a standar 640x480. Have been living with this prob for a > year now, just install Edgy and would love to finally solve it :) > I have a Sony laptop with an i915 card, and I have not needed 915resolution since Breezy. You may want to uninstall 915 resolution, and get this working directly with the xorg.conf. I have attached my current xorg.conf for reference. I do remember that I had to mess with it a bit in Dapper to get everything working properly, and so I can probably help a bit to try to figure out what is going on with yours, too. As you can see from my xorg.conf, my laptop screen is 1366x768. The first place that I started looking is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It had informational messages in there that told me why it wasn't selecting the resolution I wanted. It may have to do with sync ranges configured for the monitor, or other issues, but we should be able to figure this out. 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Tom On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:23 -0500, Mike Smith wrote: > sudo apt-get install cups-pdf (or search for it in synaptic) > System->Administration->Printing->Add Printer, choose PDF, Select > generic Postscript rev4. > > Prints to your home folder. > > On 12/12/06, John Dangler wrote: > > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > > windows box and print them out? > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From custom at freenet.de Thu Dec 14 02:43:33 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:43:33 +0700 Subject: 915resolution howto In-Reply-To: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1166064213.4879.2.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> I have a widescreen NEC laptop with Intel graphics. All I had to do was install 915resolution *FROM THE REPOSITORIES*, so just install just like anything else using Synaptic, and after that it 'just-worked'. Didn't have to go into any configuration files, didn't have to make it run on startup, whatever it did it did it all by itself. Cheers, Chanchao From XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com Thu Dec 14 03:44:34 2006 From: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com (XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:44:34 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?Tm90aWZpY2FjacOzbiBkZWwgZXN0YWRvIGRlbCBlbnbDrW8=?= Message-ID: <1166064270.XBZBIXUNMMGN@spammotel.com> - El servidor de correo ha procesado los siguientes destinatarios del mensaje: XBZBIXUNMMGN at spammotel.com; Fallido; 5.1.1 (dirección del buzón de correo de destino errónea) MTA remoto ems6.backend.correo: diagnóstico SMTP: 550 RCPT TO: Relaying not allowed - please use SMTP AUTH -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Chanchao Subject: **ubuntu: Re: 915resolution howto Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:43:33 +0700 Size: 3727 URL: From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 03:54:38 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:54:38 +0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/10/06, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > On 12/9/06, derk jansen wrote: > > I'm not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine > about > > the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. > > I wouldn't buy a MacBook and then delete Mac OS X off of it, I'd use > it and learn from it. So I don't think it's very wise to do what the > OP talks about. But yes, the Apples are very nice machines. > > Saludos Buying a MacBook is not... but deleting Mac OSX is crazy! -- Carpe Diem From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 05:05:22 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:05:22 +0800 Subject: Need help in a conspiracy In-Reply-To: <4580AA85.4070602@ne.rr.com> References: <45803053.7080300@ne.rr.com> <45806465.1010305@fahrlander.net> <4580AA85.4070602@ne.rr.com> Message-ID: On 12/14/06, alex wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >alex wrote: > > > > > >>My son in law is a High School music teacher and he's trying to > >>translate his band music tapes to CD. I'm trying to convince him that > >>UBUNTU is a good way to do it but he's a MS Windows user and is > >>reluctant to install UBUNTU in his computer. As it is, he has some > >>difficulty moving .wav files with MS Windows. > >> > >>He does let me use a UBUNTU CD on his computer after I eventually > >>convinced him that it doesn't install on his computer and he's able to > >>do some very basic operations. > >> > >>I'm trying to convince him to try doing with it with the UBUNTU CD but I > >>have no experience with music recording so I'm not able to offer any > >>reliable guidance. I feel that if I could demonstrate that it can be > >>done with the UBUNTU CD he'd be convinced that he can do it too and he'd > >>want to install it on the hard drive so he wouldn't need to wait for the > >>the CD to set up. > >> > >>Can someone tell me where I can get information about copying taped > >>music to CD with UBUNTU or perhaps offer some information from their own > >>personal experience? > >> > >> > > > > Well, there's always the "line-in" port on the sound card; just plug > >in the tape player, set the volume, and run Audacity (in the repo) to > >capture from "Aux" or whatever they call it on the card. > > > > I've used Audacity for a lot of things, but directly from tape isn't > >one of them, though there's no reason it wouldn't work just fine. > > > > Heck, it's even fun. > > > > > > Unfortunately, when I sent him the address for downloading 'audacity' he noticed that it was also available for MS Windows. > > So, now I have find another ploy to get him into UBUNTU > > alex > Throughout my college years, I've been persuading people to use Linux, or have Linux on their desktops. I've befriend people who have laptops, so it'll have Linux installed on theirs. I don't know if it's right, but I know my guts says I can't be wrong with a strong passion, interests, and enthusiasm about Linux. My colleagues call me Linux, because I'm so stubborn about brainwashing their minds that Linux is the shit! So based on my statistics, male's are harder to convince than females, It's easier to convince people who are still trying to learn Windows, or just recently purchased a computer and very happy about it, and want to try anything out. Females have this kind of adventurous personality, that they end up having their PC's installed with Linux. People don't get persuaded by huge words or technically superior kernels, but with "Hey! if you try to run a virus on it, your PC won't be affected!". So how the hell are you going to convince people to use Linux? Well, it's simple, make sure to let them know that they are still wearing polka dots. -- Carpe Diem From haniganwork at earthlik.net Thu Dec 14 05:14:17 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:14:17 -0600 Subject: vi Message-ID: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> Hi all, I use vi a lot and since I started using it with Ubuntu it has an annoying habit of doing automatic indenting. How do I get it to act like the old fashioned vi? Thanks Linda From Gilles at Gravier.org Thu Dec 14 05:54:18 2006 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:54:18 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 2.1 with fglrx: possible problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4580E70A.1030705@Gravier.org> Many things have issues with fglrx ... it's an fglrx prblem... Blender (3D modeler app) and running some 3D games like World of Warcraft inside Crossover Office have problems as well (those 2 are the ones I've experienced). I'm sure there are more... Gilles. Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Hi, > > I just downloaded the OpenOffice 2.1 debs from openoffice.org. The > installation was absolutely painless on my Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > However just a bit of warning for the adventurous people that cannot wait > until the official packages will be available. > In my case I _was_ using the ati drivers on my machine. > > Now when I tried to start the executable(s) I was greeted with a flood > of "fglrx: cannot connect to APIxxxx messages" (or similar), instead of a > running swriter, scalc and so on. It simply did not work. > > For a quick fix I had to change my display driver from "fglrx" to "ati" in > xorg.conf. That did the trick for me. I am now enjoying the new version but > my 3D is a bit slow.;-)) I do not care since I do not need 3D, but maybe > others will. > > I will investigate this a little further since my ATI drivers were rather > outdated, So this is meant just to inform you.... > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If it works, you can make an alias for that. -- Jaska From erik at dd.nec.com.au Thu Dec 14 06:48:35 2006 From: erik at dd.nec.com.au (Erik Christiansen) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:48:35 +1100 Subject: vi In-Reply-To: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> References: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> Message-ID: <20061214064835.GD7461@dd.nec.com.au> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:14:17PM -0600, Linda Hanigan wrote: > Hi all, > I use vi a lot and since I started using it with Ubuntu it has an > annoying habit of doing automatic indenting. How do I get it to act like > the old fashioned vi? > Thanks > Linda > If (in vi) you enter: :set you should see "autoindent" amongst the stuff that's turned on. Try: :set noautoindent and it should go away. To make this permanent, put that line into ~/.vimrc. (i.e. .vimrc in your home directory. ;) Why suddenly vim, instead of vi? Well vi is /usr/bin/vi, which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/vi, which in turn links to /usr/bin/vim, at least on my Breezy default install. Vim has so many extra goodies that no-one would be cruel enough to deny you, but "vim -C" will reduce it to only a little more than vi. (Compatible mode.) Incidentally, "man vi" throws up the vim page. :) Lotsa luck, Erik From ttmrichter at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 06:48:19 2006 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:48:19 +0800 Subject: Version Control on a USB Memory stick In-Reply-To: <200612141219.33895.james@gray.net.au> References: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> <200612141219.33895.james@gray.net.au> Message-ID: <1166078899.26670.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-14-12 at 12:19 +1100, James Gray wrote: > On Thursday 14 December 2006 10:05, Andy wrote: > > > Is it safe to put a CVS or Subversion repository on a USB stick? > > Yes - done it before and it worked well. > > > Does anyone know of any better solutions to my problem or have an > > recommendations to what version control I could use? > > Simple projects can probably be managed quite nicely with CVS, however, > Subversion has some nice features that make it easier to work with > (especially if you're in need of renaming files or moving them around the > source tree). I'm going to recommend Darcs instead. (It's in universe.) It's suited specifically to distributed development and ad-hoc branching and merging. It also works under Linux and Windows (which seems to be an issue for the OP). -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "[Blacks] secrete less by the kidneys, and more by the glands of the skin, which gives them a very strong and disagreeable odour." --Thomas Jefferson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From hrapof at common-lisp.ru Thu Dec 14 07:02:24 2006 From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: DHCP Message-ID: Hello! It seems that after upgrade to 6.10 DCHP stopped worked quite right. It doesn't fetch IP address automatically after reboot, however, if I do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 it works. But it's rather annoying. Did anyone else had such problem? Thanks, Dmitri PS. And yes, my eth0 is set to DHCP and activated in Network Manager. From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Dec 14 07:46:18 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:46:18 -0500 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1166063995.10010.1.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> <1166063995.10010.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166082378.5113.2.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 20:39 -0600, Tom Pangborn wrote: > Can't speak for John but thank you Mr. Smith! Very helpful. > > Tom > Thank you, Mr. Smith. I just got this installed, so I can't wait to try it out. And, I've also told a co-worker about this, since he just spent $40 on a win app that does the same thing... Ain't open source wonderful? > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:23 -0500, Mike Smith wrote: > > sudo apt-get install cups-pdf (or search for it in synaptic) > > System->Administration->Printing->Add Printer, choose PDF, Select > > generic Postscript rev4. > > > > Prints to your home folder. > > > > On 12/12/06, John Dangler wrote: > > > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > > > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > > > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) without > > > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to a > > > windows box and print them out? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > From ben at cvrse.com Thu Dec 14 07:47:19 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:47:19 +1100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061214074719.GB5312@rip.cvrse.com> * Dmitri Hrapof wrote: > Hello! > > It seems that after upgrade to 6.10 DCHP stopped worked quite right. > It doesn't fetch IP address automatically after reboot, however, if I do > ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 > it works. But it's rather annoying. > Did anyone else had such problem? > > Thanks, > Dmitri > > PS. And yes, my eth0 is set to DHCP and activated in Network Manager. do you want to use network manager or the standard network settings (/etc/network/interfaces)? if the former ensure that there are no references to eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces file. and for the latter ensure it contains: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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John From amichai at iglu.org.il Thu Dec 14 08:14:39 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:14:39 +0200 Subject: 915resolution howto In-Reply-To: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Hi Gabe, Have yo tried following the usage instructions here: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ It seems simple enough. I don't have a laptop at all, but there's a link to a utility that will help you figure out the modeline suitable for you... Good luck! On 12/13/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Sony laptop, it uses 1280x800 screen res from an intel 915gm > onboard graphics. > > I have always used 915resoution like this: > # 915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add the line: > /usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then I can ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x-server and get the new > resolution. Question is, this doesn't seem the right approach 'cause the > 915res website says you need to edit xorg.conf and I have no idea > how...? > > Also when the computer resumes from hibernate the screen res is not > correct but a standar 640x480. Have been living with this prob for a > year now, just install Edgy and would love to finally solve it :) > > Thank you > > Gabe > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. 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I don't have a laptop at all, but there's a link to a utility that will help you figure out the modeline suitable for you... Good luck! On 12/13/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Sony laptop, it uses 1280x800 screen res from an intel 915gm > onboard graphics. > > I have always used 915resoution like this: > # 915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add the line: > /usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > Then I can ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x-server and get the new > resolution. Question is, this doesn't seem the right approach 'cause the > 915res website says you need to edit xorg.conf and I have no idea > how...? > > Also when the computer resumes from hibernate the screen res is not > correct but a standar 640x480. Have been living with this prob for a > year now, just install Edgy and would love to finally solve it :) > > Thank you > > Gabe > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That's crazy ! 145Mb RAM of 256 used and 5,5% SWAP used (23Mb) I could not install LTS on this laptop because of an xserver problem, while the 6.10 worked out of the box. So, I cannot make a real comparison between the two configurations. I wonder why ubuntu 6.10 uses Swap memory, on this laptop while no application is running ? And is it slow because it uses this swap memory ? Sebastien. From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 09:11:24 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:11:24 +0000 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> Message-ID: <45391f280612140111q3cbd1e75nfe8b37fe5b66bbd@mail.gmail.com> On 14/12/06, sebastien wrote: > > I wonder why ubuntu 6.10 uses Swap memory, on this laptop > while no application is running ? And is it slow because it uses this > swap memory ? > Compare "top" from both machines. You'll probably find that you are running far more services and background tasks on Ubuntu that you are on LTS. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adconrad at ubuntu.com Thu Dec 14 09:15:24 2006 From: adconrad at ubuntu.com (Adam Conrad) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:15:24 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612122237t46b79a3es28520547b1cf33f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122237t46b79a3es28520547b1cf33f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4581162C.9090409@ubuntu.com> Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > > Adding to my other mail, there's an important difference between > these machines and 486 hardware: you can find them on the market, > new. They aren't available only from thrift shops, garage sales, they > come brand-new from Sun. Or is there a shop where you can get new 486 > boards, processors, etc? Yes, it's been pointed out several times in this thread that there are a large number of 486-class machines still being sold. The AMD "Elan" CPUs are 486-class, and found in a large number of devices on the market. I own several fairly new 486-class machines that I use as routers, Oliver spoke of new 486-class thin client boxes, etc. > Well, the obvious answer would be "the developers Canonical pays for > this would then be able to do something else to provide us with the > best distro on the desktop", or, failing that (it's better to pay > someone to do a job he/she already likes) "Canonical could pay > developers to focus more on their specifical objectives". I think you make the mistake here of believing that we expend a great deal of energy targetting 486-class CPUs. If a bug comes up in the toolchain where we find we're accidentally generating opcodes a 486 can't handle, sure, we'll look into it, but for the most part, the work here is twofold: 1) Build a kernel that can run on 486 machines (the poorly-named -386 kernel, in our case... This is reasonably trivial) 2) Make sure our toolchain is outputting code for 486 CPUs and above, which is a matter of setting the default arch and tune flags, and we're done. Again, trivial. So, the few times we'd have to kill opcode bugs, sure, that time could have been spent elsewhere, but I suspect it's nowhere near as much time as you think it is and, frankly, our toolchain hackers probably just want to hack on the toolchain anyway, not fix bugs in evince. :) ... Adam From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 14 09:17:22 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:17:22 +0100 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? References: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> <45809CC1.7070304@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Larry Alkoff wrote: > Never mind. I found the answer in an Edgy Eft thread > and can now easily open Konqueror in File Manager mode and select the > root heirachy. > > Larry Great! and what is the answer that you found? Eberhard From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 14 09:17:34 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:17:34 +0100 Subject: vi In-Reply-To: <20061214064835.GD7461@dd.nec.com.au> References: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> <20061214064835.GD7461@dd.nec.com.au> Message-ID: Am 14.12.2006 um 07:48 schrieb Erik Christiansen: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:14:17PM -0600, Linda Hanigan wrote: >> Hi all, >> I use vi a lot and since I started using it with Ubuntu it has an >> annoying habit of doing automatic indenting. How do I get it to >> act like >> the old fashioned vi? > :set noautoindent :he autoindent :help autoindent (if you want to see all the options, there are some useful things you could to to switch indent modes based on the file type you're editing) From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 14 09:21:54 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:21:54 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 2.1 with fglrx: possible problem References: <4580E70A.1030705@Gravier.org> Message-ID: Gilles Gravier wrote: > Many things have issues with fglrx ... it's an fglrx prblem... Blender > (3D modeler app) and running some 3D games like World of Warcraft inside > Crossover Office have problems as well (those 2 are the ones I've > experienced). I'm sure there are more... > > Gilles. > Amazing! Thanks for information. I already made up my mind to go to nvidia, where I never heard of things like that. regards Eberhard >> For a quick fix I had to change my display driver from "fglrx" to "ati" >> in xorg.conf. That did the trick for me. I am now enjoying the new >> version but my 3D is a bit slow.;-)) I do not care since I do not need >> 3D, but maybe others will. >> >> I will investigate this a little further since my ATI drivers were rather >> outdated, So this is meant just to inform you.... >> >> Kind regards >> Eberhard >> >> >> > From custom at freenet.de Thu Dec 14 09:25:45 2006 From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:25:45 +0700 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <45391f280612140100p2ca7c737x7e645a54c62c02a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> <1165899734.4901.8.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <45391f280612140100p2ca7c737x7e645a54c62c02a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166088345.4879.14.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 09:00 +0000, Steve Flynn wrote: > Come on, I'm not sure if it's different in the USA but > overhere it'svalmost standard to leave Windows off. :) (or at > least leave the sticket off, wink wink nudge nudge) . > > What does "leave the sticket off" mean? Sticker? i.e. unlicensed > Windows? Yes, sticker. (Sorry for the typo.) Indeed they just plonk on a canned copy of windows and everything else: mp3 music, games, Office, Photoshop and the Kitchen Sink. Actually we had a legal copy of Windows on a laptop at the office that died, and sent it for repairs, and the repair shop just reinstalled the lot with their illegal copy. There's no way to replace that with a legal copy without a reinstall so I just applied a crack to make it do all updates, IE7, Windows Defender, etc. > I'm not sure where "over here" is for you, Thailand. > but in the UK it's quite difficult to buy a PC WITHOUT Windows > pre-installed. Not impossible, but certainly not the norm. I guess you have to ask for it? Especially businesses would not want another copy of windows on it when they already have licenses.. Cheers, Chanchao From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 09:30:43 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:30:43 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: References: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 12/10/06, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > > On 12/9/06, derk jansen wrote: > > > I'm not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine > > about > > > the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. > > > > I wouldn't buy a MacBook and then delete Mac OS X off of it, I'd use > > it and learn from it. So I don't think it's very wise to do what the > > OP talks about. But yes, the Apples are very nice machines. > > > > Saludos > > > Buying a MacBook is not... but deleting Mac OSX is crazy! No, it's not. I already did. From moranar at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 09:34:25 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:34:25 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <4581162C.9090409@ubuntu.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122237t46b79a3es28520547b1cf33f2@mail.gmail.com> <4581162C.9090409@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612140134j514f3535x476dc8cccd6d9ed@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Adam Conrad wrote: > Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > > Yes, it's been pointed out several times in this thread that there are a > large number of 486-class machines still being sold. The AMD "Elan" > CPUs are 486-class, and found in a large number of devices on the > market. I own several fairly new 486-class machines that I use as > routers, Oliver spoke of new 486-class thin client boxes, etc. Hadn't seen those mails you speak about, but then, nobody seemed to see my first mail to this thread, and my net connection has been sketchy lately. Thanks for the correction, though. If you mean this sentence "there are many new boards that still require at least 486 comaptibility in the kernel ..." by Oliver, I didn't take this as meaning "uses only 486 processors". > I think you make the mistake here of believing that we expend a great > deal of energy targetting 486-class CPUs. I don't "believe" anything. I don't (didn't) know for sure. All I said was, I as a user of relatively new machines, wouldn't like this for Ubuntu to be a problem, since their (as I perceived it) main objective didn't seem to be "running servers on 486-class hardware". If it's no big deal, great. But this is my fault. Gmail being almost the only connectivity I have, and being wrong about the Ubuntu objectives have dragged this thread for way too long, I think. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From moranar at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 09:37:54 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:37:54 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612140137u661a230q778ea7680b29952@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > > Buying a MacBook is not... but deleting Mac OSX is crazy! > > No, it's not. I already did. You might be crazy and not know about it. But don't worry. If you don't misbehave here on the ML, I for one won't mind about it. Says the one who ought to stop feeling that Dark Side of the Moon is sooo referential Real Soon Now. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From smccuan at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 10:43:08 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:43:08 -0500 Subject: Printing... In-Reply-To: <1166082378.5113.2.camel@localhost> References: <1165971976.11504.59.camel@localhost> <1166063995.10010.1.camel@localhost> <1166082378.5113.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: lol. If he's just looking for standard document to pdf conversions, use OpenOffice.....its built-in :) On 12/14/06, John Dangler wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 20:39 -0600, Tom Pangborn wrote: > > Can't speak for John but thank you Mr. Smith! Very helpful. > > > > Tom > > > Thank you, Mr. Smith. I just got this installed, so I can't wait to try > it out. And, I've also told a co-worker about this, since he just spent > $40 on a win app that does the same thing... Ain't open source > wonderful? > > > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:23 -0500, Mike Smith wrote: > > > sudo apt-get install cups-pdf (or search for it in synaptic) > > > System->Administration->Printing->Add Printer, choose PDF, Select > > > generic Postscript rev4. > > > > > > Prints to your home folder. > > > > > > On 12/12/06, John Dangler wrote: > > > > Since Linux in general has next to no print support for us normal > > > > Schmoe's, is there a way to get firefox to print to a file for sites > > > > such as airlines, hotels (reservation vouchers, e-tickets, etc) > without > > > > having to print-screen a dozen images, cut them up, transfer them to > a > > > > windows box and print them out? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 14 10:48:21 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:48:21 +0000 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> Message-ID: <1166093301.5073.9.camel@worldventures> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 10:05 +0100, sebastien wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got 2 computers. > An old one (Pentium 3, 733MHz 370Mb RAM) and a recent one (laptop > celeron 1,5GHz 270Mb SDRAM). > > The old one has ubuntu LTS : perfect ! It is fast. 0% SWAP used. 133Mb > RAM used when no window's opened. I can do everything I need with this > configuration, that's perfect. > > The laptop has ubuntu 6,10 running : I find it slow compared to my > old machine, while I expected it to be pretty much faster ! ! ! That's > crazy ! > 145Mb RAM of 256 used and 5,5% SWAP used (23Mb) > > I could not install LTS on this laptop because of an xserver problem, > while the 6.10 worked out of the box. So, I cannot make a real > comparison between the two configurations. > > I wonder why ubuntu 6.10 uses Swap memory, on this laptop > while no application is running ? And is it slow because it uses this > swap memory ? > > Sebastien. I shouldn't be so surprised. I compare the performance of my 2 year old desktop with a brand new sony laptop, the desktop wins. Although the laptop technically has better specs for the achievement of miniaturization the performance is blown away. Laptops have slow processors and hard drives... everything really has been watered down to make it smaller and less energy hungry. Don't forget that a Celeron is a cripple when it comes to speed/power, it has the GHz but it doesn't have the L2 cache and probably not the front-side-bus too. A 1.5GHz celeron is about (in my opinion) equivalent to a 'normal' P4 running at half the speed. Having said that, even I'm lumbered with a celery, sorry, celeron in my lappy. Laptop performance sucks compared to similar desktops, but laptops sure win in the mobility stakes! > From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 14 11:06:15 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:06:15 +0000 Subject: Edgy takes a long time to start up In-Reply-To: <1166044653.5073.2.camel@worldventures> References: <1166044653.5073.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1166094375.4963.3.camel@worldventures> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 21:17 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Goes past GRUB selection and then it just sits there for half a minutes > with the progress bar not... progressing. Check the output on F1 and it > doesn't get as far as mounting the logical volumes. There is no HDD > activity of any kind. Seems a bit abnormal - is it? > > Also ALT+F8 won't show any output, what happened to this? > > Otherwise I am loving Edgy, generally seems more streamlined, and > version 1.4.2 of Lyx in the repos is a bonus :D > > I now have more information to add, the computer spends a long time (half a minute or more) stuck on the following after turning it on: ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpiid 0x1 From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 14 11:04:46 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:04:46 +0000 Subject: 915resolution howto In-Reply-To: References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1166094286.4963.1.camel@worldventures> I removed 915reslution (purge) and did what you said. But my xorg.conf alread looked OK to me, after a reboot the screen came up 1024x768 res again. Have attached my xorg.conf which I hope could help you. Thank you Gabe On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 18:12 -0800, Matthew Kuiken wrote: > Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a Sony laptop, it uses 1280x800 screen res from an intel 915gm > > onboard graphics. > > > > I have always used 915resoution like this: > > # 915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > > > Then edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add the line: > > /usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800 24 > > > > Then I can ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x-server and get the new > > resolution. Question is, this doesn't seem the right approach 'cause the > > 915res website says you need to edit xorg.conf and I have no idea > > how...? > > > > Also when the computer resumes from hibernate the screen res is not > > correct but a standar 640x480. Have been living with this prob for a > > year now, just install Edgy and would love to finally solve it :) > > > > I have a Sony laptop with an i915 card, and I have not needed > 915resolution since Breezy. You may want to uninstall 915 resolution, > and get this working directly with the xorg.conf. > > I have attached my current xorg.conf for reference. I do remember that > I had to mess with it a bit in Dapper to get everything working > properly, and so I can probably help a bit to try to figure out what is > going on with yours, too. As you can see from my xorg.conf, my laptop > screen is 1366x768. > > The first place that I started looking is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It > had informational messages in there that told me why it wasn't selecting > the resolution I wanted. It may have to do with sync ranges configured > for the monitor, or other issues, but we should be able to figure this > out. Let me know if you would like to pursue this further. > > -Matt > > > > > plain text document attachment (xorg.conf) > # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) > # > # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using > # values from the debconf database. > # > # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. > # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) > # > # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* > # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg > # package. > # > # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated > # again, run the following command: > # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > Section "Files" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" > FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" > # path to defoma fonts > FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "i2c" > Load "bitmap" > Load "ddc" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "freetype" > Load "glx" > Load "int10" > Load "type1" > Load "vbe" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "CorePointer" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" > Driver "synaptics" > Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" > Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "stylus" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "stylus" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "eraser" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "eraser" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "cursor" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "cursor" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller" > Driver "i810" > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Generic Monitor" > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Device "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller" > Monitor "Generic Monitor" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 1 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 4 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 15 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1366x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Default Layout" > Screen "Default Screen" > InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" > InputDevice "Configured Mouse" > InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Mode 0666 > EndSection -------------- next part -------------- # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" # path to defoma fonts FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" EndSection Section "Module" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "stylus" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "stylus" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "eraser" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "eraser" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "cursor" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "cursor" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller" Driver "i810" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection From mas at mylug.org Thu Dec 14 12:41:36 2006 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:11:36 +0530 Subject: vi In-Reply-To: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> References: <1166073257.22172.2.camel@star> Message-ID: <20061214124136.GA3138@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:14:17PM -0600, Linda Hanigan wrote: > > I use vi a lot and since I started using it with Ubuntu it has an > annoying habit of doing automatic indenting. How do I get it to act like > the old fashioned vi? > Apart from the answers already given, you can try :set compat for a greater degree of compatibility with the vanilla vi. See :help compat for more information on this topic. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 "Wish not to seem, but to be, the best." -- Aeschylus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 14 12:50:48 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:50:48 +0100 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <45391f280612140100p2ca7c737x7e645a54c62c02a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <457DEA6B.9030202@comcast.net> <1165899734.4901.8.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com> <45391f280612140100p2ca7c737x7e645a54c62c02a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166100648.5372.1.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> You can insist on a refund for the cost of the windows installation from the manufacturer of the PC. Regards From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 14 13:18:47 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:18:47 -0200 Subject: Edgy takes a long time to start up In-Reply-To: <1166094375.4963.3.camel@worldventures> References: <1166044653.5073.2.camel@worldventures> <1166094375.4963.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4413284c0612140518r4434ce14v69e5b728d54e86de@mail.gmail.com> Did you file a bug? If not, please do (after checking for existing one) again linux-source-2.6.17. Hervé. On 12/14/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 21:17 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Goes past GRUB selection and then it just sits there for half a minutes > > with the progress bar not... progressing. Check the output on F1 and it > > doesn't get as far as mounting the logical volumes. There is no HDD > > activity of any kind. Seems a bit abnormal - is it? > > > > Also ALT+F8 won't show any output, what happened to this? > > > > Otherwise I am loving Edgy, generally seems more streamlined, and > > version 1.4.2 of Lyx in the repos is a bonus :D > > > > > I now have more information to add, the computer spends a long time > (half a minute or more) stuck on the following after turning it on: > > ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpiid 0x1 > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Thu Dec 14 13:47:39 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:47:39 +0300 Subject: gparted: shows a mounted (sic!) reiser4 partition as "unallocated space" Message-ID: <20061214134739.5282.3929.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Package: gparted Version: 0.2.5-2ubuntu1 Severity: normal Gparted shows a mounted reiser4 partition as unallocated space. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers feisty APT policy: (500, 'feisty') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-mm3-betelheise Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages gparted depends on: ii gksu 2.0.0-1ubuntu1 graphical frontend to su ii libatk1. 1.12.3-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libc6 2.5-0ubuntu4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcairo 1.2.0-0ubuntu1 C++ wrappers for Cairo (shared lib ii libfontc 2.4.1-2ubuntu2 generic font configuration library ii libfreet 2.2.1-5 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc1 1:4.1.1-21ubuntu2 GCC support library ii libglib2 2.12.4-2ubuntu1 The GLib library of C routines ii libglibm 2.12.3-0ubuntu1 C++ wrapper for the GLib toolkit ( ii libgtk2. 2.10.6-0ubuntu1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libgtkmm 1:2.10.6-0ubuntu1 C++ wrappers for GTK+ 2.4 (shared ii libice6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libpango 1.15.1-0ubuntu1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libparte 1.7.1-3ubuntu1 The GNU Parted disk partitioning s ii libpng12 1.2.15~beta5-0 PNG library - runtime ii libsigc+ 2.0.17-2 type-safe Signal Framework for C++ ii libsm6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 Session Management library ii libstdc+ 4.1.1-21ubuntu2 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libuuid1 1.39+1.40-WIP-2006.10.02+dfsg-2 universally unique id library ii libx11-6 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu5 X11 client-side library ii libxcurs 1.1.7-0ubuntu1 X cursor management library ii libxext6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxfixe 1:4.0.1-0ubuntu1 X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio ii libxi6 2:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 X11 Input extension library ii libxiner 2:1.0.1-4build1 X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxrand 2:1.1.1-0ubuntu1 X11 RandR extension library ii libxrend 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu1 X Rendering Extension client libra ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu3 compression library - runtime gparted recommends no packages. -- no debconf information From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 14 13:26:09 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:26:09 +0100 Subject: cannot add a hard drive In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166102769.4948.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> I realise this is a dumb question but please forgive me. I have tried searching for an answer. I have added a drive to my machine, but cannot get it to mount. I have gparted it, no problem. but I cannot get it to mount. It says no entry in fstab, which is true. sorry to be so stupid tia From anthony75a at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 13:51:54 2006 From: anthony75a at gmail.com (Anthony D.) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:51:54 -0600 Subject: No mp3 tags in Edgy? Message-ID: <458156FA.3030105@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 When either ripping CDs as mp3s or translating my flac files into mp3s in Edgy, I've noticed there's no mp3 tags at all being written. I've checked ID3v1 and v2 within programs like EasyTag, xmms, etc., and there's usually nothing at all written besides the name of the song. Tried ripping my CDs with SoundJuicer and grip, and translating the flacs into mp3s with soundconverter (both the version that came with Ubuntu and the newest version compiled from the program's website), but nothing comes of any of these. Any ideas or suggestions on what's wrong, or how to rectify this? Thanks! Anthony -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgVb4zwIa79lKFVURAlrRAJ99mhSq7dqc0OGjTOHaCUq88bHUtwCeKDr4 AlFbvxC1CDYOfZY31OW+ylk= =F6Mp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 14 14:05:01 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:05:01 +0100 Subject: TFT pivot? Message-ID: Hi, I am the lucky owner of a TFT that can be pivoted to portrait mode. As googling did not reveal anything that worked with my ATI 9200, I would love to hear from people who pivot their displays successfully with Linux. As I am open to buy a new graphic accelerator, I am especially interested, which graphic board you use and which driver _really_ works for you. Any input is greatly appreciated. Kind regards Eberhard Roloff From labradley at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 14:18:25 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:18:25 -0600 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? In-Reply-To: <49023.198.105.65.197.1166098931.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <45809429.8020601@mindspring.com> <45809CC1.7070304@mindspring.com> <49023.198.105.65.197.1166098931.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <45815D31.2040900@mindspring.com> My apologies for not sharing the answer. It was a serious oversight on my part. I especially apologize because I hate it when others don't. First of all, the thread that helped me was konqueror not displaying all folders in October 2006. What I gleaned was the following info that is unfortunately not clearly documented. Konqueror seems to have two separate modes, one for using it as a File Manager and one for using it for a Web browser. They are selected by Settings -> View -> Load View Profile -> Load Kubuntu File Manager _or_ Ubuntu Web. Select Ubuntu File Manager if not already selected. Next use F9 to bring up a vertical menu on the left hand side. The default selection seems to be "Home Folder", represented by an icon that looks like a little house. Next to the icon column is a listing of directories and files starting from the user's home folder making it easy to browse anywhere in the users /home directory. Near the bottom is an icon of a folder which says Root Folder" when you hover. Click this and the listing of directories now starts with the Root Folder / and gives access to the entire system. Larry Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Larry, > > Would you mind sharing the answer? >> Never mind. I found the answer in an Edgy Eft thread >> and can now easily open Konqueror in File Manager mode and select the >> root heirachy. >> >> Larry >> >> >> Larry Alkoff wrote: >>> How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening >>> "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: >>> >>> Home Folder >>> Storage Media >>> Network Folders >>> Trash >>> Applications >>> About Kubuntu >>> >>> >>> Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to >>> a -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 14 14:13:27 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:13:27 -0400 Subject: Dumb??? Dept.: host alias listings? References: <458038CB.808@shaw.ca> <20061213175125.GA31299@mutt.jynn.tonix.org> Message-ID: <7p2854-asg.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> David Armour wrote: > David Hart tonix.org> writes: > >> My guess is you've installed some kind of advert/tracker blocking >> software that's added certain domains to localhost aliases. (By aliasing >> the domains to localhost the requests don't reach the servers.) Interesting. > > Thank you for your reply, both for jogging my memory, and for the > explanation of one of the functions of aliasing to localhost! I wish I had > some sort of google ability with my danged memory. I *had* installed a > script (see below) a few weeks back. I can see it now: "Google Memory - We remember, when you don't"! -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 14 14:26:00 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:26:00 -0400 Subject: 915resolution howto References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi Gabe, > > Have yo tried following the usage instructions here: > > http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ > > It seems simple enough. I don't have a laptop at all, but there's a link > to a utility that will help you figure out the modeline suitable for > you... gtf is already installed: "gtf 1280 800 60" -- derek From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 14 14:59:41 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:59:41 -0200 Subject: TFT pivot? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612140659p137c865cme04f511aed2de2ab@mail.gmail.com> Too bad you don't use nVidia: they have the same settings applet in Ubuntu as in you-know-which-os, which does it for you. Maybe ATI have such an applet somewhere? If I get bored (I am actually) I'll try to dig what X.org can do... Hervé. On 12/14/06, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Hi, > > I am the lucky owner of a TFT that can be pivoted to portrait mode. > > As googling did not reveal anything that worked with my ATI 9200, I would > love to hear from people who pivot their displays successfully with Linux. > > As I am open to buy a new graphic accelerator, I am especially interested, > which graphic board you use and which driver _really_ works for you. > > Any input is greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards > Eberhard Roloff > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 15:17:16 2006 From: dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:17:16 +0000 Subject: Version Control on a USB Memory stick In-Reply-To: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0612131505j3b58810awfecd862b132920e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45816AFC.20102@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> Andy wrote: > Currently I am just copying the files to a USB stick when I have > finished editing, but eventually I can guarantee I will copy files in > the wrong direction, or forget to copy them to the stick and alter > both copies or erase some changes. Unison will synchronize two filesystems. Much simpler (but less powerful) than version control. Depends what you want. Cheers, Dave From labradley at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 14:38:15 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:38:15 -0600 Subject: How to configure Konqueror for / ? In-Reply-To: <49541.198.105.65.197.1166098942.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <49541.198.105.65.197.1166098942.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <458161D7.30406@mindspring.com> I apologize for my oversight in not explaining my findings. It's especially unforgivable because I hate it when others do this. First the thread that helped me was konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) in October 2006. Konqueror _seems_ to have two distinct modes as a File Browser or Web Browser selected in Settings -> Load View Profile -> Kubuntu File Manager or Kubuntu Web. Make sure File Manager is selected. Use F9 to bring up a side menu with a column of icons on the left and a column of folders to the right of that starting with Home Folder and including all folders in the home directory. I think you have to do something else to show hidden files that start with a dot. The Home Folder is selected with an icon on the left side that looks like a little house. However, down near the bottom of the left side icons is one that looks like a file folder and says Root Folder. Selecting Root Folder changes the column of folders to those in the / directory in a form easy to browse with the mouse. Larry Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Larry, > > Would you mind sharing the answer? >> Never mind. I found the answer in an Edgy Eft thread >> and can now easily open Konqueror in File Manager mode and select the >> root heirachy. >> >> Larry >> >> >> Larry Alkoff wrote: >>> How I change Konqueror to _include_ the / root folder in the opening >>> "Locate - search for local files" window which contains: >>> >>> Home Folder >>> Storage Media >>> Network Folders >>> Trash >>> Applications >>> About Kubuntu >>> >>> >>> Changing Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Home URL doesn't work to >>> allow me to browse to /. >>> >>> Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From sfllaw at ubuntu.com Thu Dec 14 15:26:02 2006 From: sfllaw at ubuntu.com (Simon Law) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:26:02 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Hug Day - 20 December 2006 Message-ID: <20061214152601.GW24992@law.yi.org> Seasons greetings! It's nearing the end of the year, so next Wednesday will be the last Hug Day of 2006. We're going to be triaging bugs and processing people into the Ubuntu QA team. What's an Ubuntu Hug Day, you may ask? It's a day when people get together to triage and fix bugs. It's a great time to start helping, if you've been thinking about it, because there's always someone to talk to. And when you've helped out, people will give you hugs! :) Just join the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel on irc.freenode.net on 20 December 2006. We're going to be running the day in all time zones, so if it's Wednesday where you are, it's the right day. For more information, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHugDay Hope to see you there! Cheers, -- Simon Law http://www.law.yi.org/~sfllaw/ From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 14 15:27:27 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:27:27 -0200 Subject: TFT pivot? In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612140659p137c865cme04f511aed2de2ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612140659p137c865cme04f511aed2de2ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612140727j4d6e13f3sc64722f62e72c314@mail.gmail.com> In the video card "device" section of xorg.conf: Option "Rotate" "CCW" Option "SWCursor" "On" Told you I was bored. Hervé. On 12/14/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > Too bad you don't use nVidia: they have the same settings applet in > Ubuntu as in you-know-which-os, which does it for you. Maybe ATI have > such an applet somewhere? > > If I get bored (I am actually) I'll try to dig what X.org can do... > > Hervé. > > On 12/14/06, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am the lucky owner of a TFT that can be pivoted to portrait mode. > > > > As googling did not reveal anything that worked with my ATI 9200, I would > > love to hear from people who pivot their displays successfully with Linux. > > > > As I am open to buy a new graphic accelerator, I am especially interested, > > which graphic board you use and which driver _really_ works for you. > > > > Any input is greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > Eberhard Roloff > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Dec 14 15:53:00 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:53:00 -0600 Subject: cannot add a hard drive In-Reply-To: <1166102769.4948.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1166102769.4948.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: <4581735C.1040402@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Trevor Nye wrote: > I realise this is a dumb question but please forgive me. I have tried > searching for an answer. > I have added a drive to my machine, but cannot get it to mount. I have > gparted it, no problem. but I cannot get it to mount. It says no entry > in fstab, which is true. > > sorry to be so stupid Not at all; there's a lot to remember, and adding drives isn't an every day thing. fdisk/gparted, then mkfs, then mount. It doesn't *have* to be in /etc/fstab, but it makes it easier. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgXNb6PLtRzZbdhYRAiSAAJ9mnTGJ0Gm1Bri0BKR5+subIXsKjACeI7Ys 0u6EigNb1vjb0fV6SrR+UG0= =wNgr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From arzajac at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 15:53:28 2006 From: arzajac at gmail.com (Andrew Zajac) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:53:28 -0500 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> Message-ID: <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, sebastien wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got 2 computers. > An old one (Pentium 3, 733MHz 370Mb RAM) and a recent one (laptop > celeron 1,5GHz 270Mb SDRAM). > > The old one has ubuntu LTS : perfect ! It is fast. 0% SWAP used. 133Mb > RAM used when no window's opened. I can do everything I need with this > configuration, that's perfect. > > The laptop has ubuntu 6,10 running : I find it slow compared to my > old machine, while I expected it to be pretty much faster ! ! ! That's > crazy ! > 145Mb RAM of 256 used and 5,5% SWAP used (23Mb) > The laptop has less ram than the desktop. The desktop does not swap because there is more ram available. From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Thu Dec 14 16:16:12 2006 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:16:12 -0800 Subject: 915resolution howto In-Reply-To: <1166094286.4963.1.camel@worldventures> References: <1166042808.19980.3.camel@worldventures> <1166094286.4963.1.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I removed 915reslution (purge) and did what you said. But my xorg.conf > alread looked OK to me, after a reboot the screen came up 1024x768 res > again. Have attached my xorg.conf which I hope could help you. > Just as a first check, in the first part of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log the i810 module reports its version as: compiled for 7.1.1, module version 1.6.5 One of my first problems was that xorg was not detecting my LCD correctly (This was way back in breezy, BTW.) Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the lines: (II) I810(0): Broken BIOSes cause the system to hang here. If you encounter this problem please add Option "DisplayInfo" "FALSE" to the Device section of your XF86Config file. (II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: TRUE, size: (720,400) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: FALSE, present: TRUE, size: (1024,768) (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP (digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,2059) (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1366,768) (II) I810(0): Display Info: Second (second CRT): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,2059) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV2 (second TV): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,2059) (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1366 x 768 Here we are just checking to see that the video card correctly sees your display. A bit later in the file I have a section that looks like this: (II) I810(0): Generic Monitor: Using hsync range of 43.89-48.51 kHz (II) I810(0): Generic Monitor: Using vrefresh value of 60.00 Hz (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1366x768" (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Correcting stride (1368 -> 5504) (II) I810(0): Increasing the scanline pitch to allow tiling mode (1376 -> 2048). (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1368x768 (pitch 2048) (**) I810(0): Built-in mode "1360x768" (**) I810(0): Built-in mode "1024x768" (==) I810(0): DPI set to (75, 75) I am betting that if you find this section, it will say something about 1280x800 being out of sync range, and falling back to 1024x768. Using the command below: $ gtf 1280 800 60 # 1280x800 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 49.68 kHz; pclk: 83.46 MHz Modeline "1280x800_60.00" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 -HSync +Vsync We can see that hsync for 1280x800 is outside the range given for Generic Monitor. To fix this, we will try to add the following two lines to your xorg.conf in the Monitor section. HorizSync 29-50 VertRefresh 30-70 The reason my monitor does not require this is that my display at 1366x768 fits in those generic monitor values, while yours falls outside those ranges. Adding these lines to the monitor section tells xorg that the monitor can handle different rates. The important thing for the ranges is that they encompass the range that you are trying to display. In the case above, I used 29-50, as 29.4 is 640x480, and 49.68 is your 1280x800. If this does not fix your problem, please post your Xorg.0.log. If it does fix it, please let us know. Later, -Matt From DaveM at Mich.Com Thu Dec 14 16:08:38 2006 From: DaveM at Mich.Com (Dave M) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:08:38 -0500 Subject: Grip - save config? Message-ID: <4.2.2.20061214110625.00b09330@pop.mich.com> I started using Grip and like it a whole lot better than Sound Juicer (Ubuntu 6.06). But I can not figure out how to save the config settings? If use more than one file format, I must remember and re-enter all of the cryptic settings for file names, encoder settings, id3 tags etc. Is there a way to save my Grip config settings and re-use them later? ------------------------------- Dave M Davem (at) Mich (dot) Com Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Inter-networked computers give you freedom. The "Trusted Computing Platform" could take that freedom away. http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 14 16:36:38 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:36:38 -0200 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Andrew Zajac wrote: > The laptop has less ram than the desktop. The desktop does not swap > because there is more ram available. Yes, but once it's all up, it uses less memory than there is, so the problem is somewhere else. Did you check that the hard disk(s) had DMA enabled? sudo hdparm /dev/hda Hervé. From PNewberry at habitat.org Thu Dec 14 17:19:14 2006 From: PNewberry at habitat.org (Patrick Newberry) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:19:14 -0500 Subject: myphpadmin Message-ID: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> I attempted to do a apt-get install myphpadmin but apt-get replied that it could not find it in my lists of repositories. Does anyone know if this is still in ubuntu repositories or what is the best method to find what repostitory an given package in located in? (I'm using dapper) Thanks Pat Newberry www.gypsyfarm.com From steve at laniels.org Thu Dec 14 17:30:37 2006 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:30:37 -0500 Subject: myphpadmin In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <20061214173037.GU27716@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 12:19:14PM -0500, Patrick Newberry wrote: > I attempted to do a apt-get install myphpadmin but apt-get replied that > it could not find it in my lists of repositories. > > Does anyone know if this is still in ubuntu repositories or what is > the best method to find what repostitory an given package in located in? You're thiking of phpMyAdmin. :-) See below. In general the way I'd approach searching for this kind of thing is apt-cache search php |grep admin |grep my or something similar, rather than apt-cache search myphpadmin Package: phpmyadmin Priority: extra Section: web Installed-Size: 10448 Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki Architecture: all Version: 4:2.6.2-3sarge3 Depends: php4 (>= 4.1.0) | php4-cgi (>= 4.1.0) | php5 | php5-cgi | php5-fcgi, php4-mysql | php5-mysql | php5-mysqli, apache | apache-perl | apache-ssl | apache2 | httpd, debconf (>= 0.2.26), ucf (>= 0.8) Suggests: mysql-server (>= 3.23.36), php4-gd | php5-gd Filename: pool/updates/main/p/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin_2.6.2-3sarge3_all.deb Size: 2769182 MD5sum: 00f14fb52a14546e92ece84c16cd249f SHA1: 2688f26d9b5fd133586a4e527687c8093a17810e SHA256: 3135b1beefb81d99444a1f226bf82d25543d8eff89b10447419f5b76d8644a74 Description: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW phpMyAdmin is intended to handle the administration of MySQL over the WWW. Currently it can: - create and drop databases - create, copy, drop and alter tables - delete, edit and add fields - execute any SQL-statement, even batch-queries - manage keys on fields - load text files into tables - create and read dumps of tables - export and import data to CSV values - administer multiple servers and single databases - check referential integrity - communicate in more than 38 different languages Package: phpmyadmin Priority: extra Section: web Installed-Size: 10448 Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki Architecture: all Version: 4:2.6.2-3sarge1 Depends: php4 (>= 4.1.0) | php4-cgi (>= 4.1.0) | php5 | php5-cgi | php5-fcgi, php4-mysql | php5-mysql | php5-mysqli, apache | apache-perl | apache-ssl | apache2 | httpd, debconf (>= 0.2.26), ucf (>= 0.8) Suggests: mysql-server (>= 3.23.36), php4-gd | php5-gd Filename: pool/main/p/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin_2.6.2-3sarge1_all.deb Size: 2768208 MD5sum: 7dddcca1746dfd9c2493fcbb82d7b882 SHA1: d1096ef3d327f968cb708a5904e8168c7e2737c2 SHA256: 7a215a6590009a2dbca2161c46493a623282ee0415d10faca117bf72dba0d9ba Description: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW phpMyAdmin is intended to handle the administration of MySQL over the WWW. Currently it can: - create and drop databases - create, copy, drop and alter tables - delete, edit and add fields - execute any SQL-statement, even batch-queries - manage keys on fields - load text files into tables - create and read dumps of tables - export and import data to CSV values - administer multiple servers and single databases - check referential integrity - communicate in more than 38 different languages -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do I get it to act like > the old fashioned vi? > Thanks > Linda > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Drew Einhorn From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Thu Dec 14 17:53:29 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? Message-ID: Hello list! They Thought It Would Never Happen Dept.: Incredibly, my 30G hard drive has less than 1G remaining free space! The mind boggles, and I've come over all twitterpated-loik. Lacking, however, this close to Giftmas the disposable fifty or so to buy a replacement -- and probably much larger hard drive! --, I'm keen to learn what the hive-mind might consider "best practice" for putting a small-to-middling hard drive with a single-user, edgy system, generic box with vanilla cd-burner on a reducing plan? What to do? What to do first? I can see, for instance, that I don't have to have all those children grad photos on there, or an assortment of '60s music, but what constitutes "stripped-down" these days? As always, any responses greatly appreciated. From nixternal at ubuntu.com Thu Dec 14 17:58:43 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:58:43 -0600 Subject: myphpadmin In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <200612141158.50597.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Thursday 14 December 2006 11:19, Patrick Newberry wrote: | I attempted to do a apt-get install myphpadmin but apt-get replied that | it could not find it in my lists of repositories. | | Does anyone know if this is still in ubuntu repositories or what is | the best method to find what repostitory an given package in located in? | | (I'm using dapper) | | Thanks | Pat Newberry | www.gypsyfarm.com phpmyadmin is the correct package, you just had the php and my switched :) -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can see, for instance, that I don't have to have all those > children grad photos on there, or an assortment of '60s music, but what > constitutes "stripped-down" these days? Well, Ubuntu requires only a few gigs of drivespace; it's more about where you PUT it that makes the difference. What I do around here is to put all the 'fun' stuff (family photos, movies, neat things I found on the net, music) on a directory called /shares, on the server. I then NFS-it to the various workstations in the house. If it's the server, or the only machine in the house, I'd get a big'old 100+G drive, mount it on /shares, and make things live there. You'll find the 30G drive is HUGE when it only holds the root filesystem. The Ubuntu web pages has all the details for adding disks, etc. If you're using LVM, you can "add" the drive space to the existing drives, but unfortunately I rarely use it, on machines that need it. :) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgZNI6PLtRzZbdhYRAk5pAJ9sL6V09hLqM586AGjathb6DXTvugCeOmcl 9DjNqBYuWW3XTPpUyYipB6M= =j0lQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Dec 14 18:15:31 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:15:31 -0600 Subject: Samba: meet LDAP Message-ID: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a customer that's using Samba, and is using LDAP for user authentication. But right now it's just "share level" on Samba, and that needs to change. Rather than all sorts of critical details, I was hoping for input from folks that have done this- there are many HowTos, as well as the Samba site, but I kinda want to pick the brains of people fresh from that fight: what's the best way to go about it, especially if it's done remotely... Thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgZTC6PLtRzZbdhYRAi7qAJ9f67z8bRnKk/EI/onlHgxyrYbv2ACbBGzP TEsi/jXiTS/9t4zVG7yvKEE= =Argv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Dec 14 17:50:02 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:50:02 -0600 Subject: myphpadmin In-Reply-To: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> References: <4C0A49BFEDE28047ACBBDC1B102FB3080EF0D4D4@CJCEXC01.HFHI.org> Message-ID: <45818ECA.4090709@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Newberry wrote: > I attempted to do a apt-get install myphpadmin but apt-get replied that > it could not find it in my lists of repositories. > > Does anyone know if this is still in ubuntu repositories or what is > the best method to find what repostitory an given package in located in? > > (I'm using dapper) Or do you mean phpldapadmin? (There's a few) see: aptitude search admin (and look through the choices) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgY7J6PLtRzZbdhYRArtxAJ92whyLqjNE5AddkUePeopMeW1sOgCfUn+5 Xd+ncAwUm/uERoAQ7a0QSqk= =go+u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From f.braennstroem at gmx.de Thu Dec 14 19:29:44 2006 From: f.braennstroem at gmx.de (Fabian Braennstroem) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:29:44 +0000 Subject: recover removed files Message-ID: Hi, I just removed some files by mistyping "rm cmak *" in my home directory. Does anyone knows, if I am able to recover or at least to see the names of the deleted files? Would be nice! Greetings! Fabian From spbasset at ptd.net Thu Dec 14 19:10:06 2006 From: spbasset at ptd.net (Simon Bassett) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:10:06 -0500 Subject: Samba: meet LDAP In-Reply-To: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> References: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1166123406.5168.3.camel@linuxbox.bassett.org> I have not used this myself yet, but I have heard some pretty rave reviews: http://majen.net/smbldap/ This sets up ldap and samba allowing you to adjust every aspect of user level restrictions. (think AD domain). On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 12:15 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I have a customer that's using Samba, and is using LDAP for user > authentication. But right now it's just "share level" on Samba, and > that needs to change. > > Rather than all sorts of critical details, I was hoping for input > from folks that have done this- there are many HowTos, as well as the > Samba site, but I kinda want to pick the brains of people fresh from > that fight: what's the best way to go about it, especially if it's done > remotely... > > Thanks! > - -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad > Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian > ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFgZTC6PLtRzZbdhYRAi7qAJ9f67z8bRnKk/EI/onlHgxyrYbv2ACbBGzP > TEsi/jXiTS/9t4zVG7yvKEE= > =Argv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As for the swap used ... the laptop's probably running battery management software and the like in the background -- that might be where the stuff dumped to swap is coming from. -- ~PeteVG Rogue Elf The ends will be determined by the means - they do not exist separate and apart from the means. ~ David McReynolds From smartssa at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 19:54:59 2006 From: smartssa at gmail.com (Darryl Clarke) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:54:59 -0500 Subject: No mp3 tags in Edgy? In-Reply-To: <458156FA.3030105@gmail.com> References: <458156FA.3030105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <37dd77890612141154q679605f0o46e478aecd8143c2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Anthony D. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > When either ripping CDs as mp3s or translating my flac files into mp3s > in Edgy, I've noticed there's no mp3 tags at all being written. I've > checked ID3v1 and v2 within programs like EasyTag, xmms, etc., and > there's usually nothing at all written besides the name of the song. > Tried ripping my CDs with SoundJuicer and grip, and translating the > flacs into mp3s with soundconverter (both the version that came with > Ubuntu and the newest version compiled from the program's website), > but nothing comes of any of these. > > Any ideas or suggestions on what's wrong, or how to rectify this? Thanks! > Do you have libtag installed? sounds like it's missing... (this is really just a guess though.) -- ~ Darryl ~ smartssa at gmail.com ~ http://darrylclarke.com From cp at ccil.org Thu Dec 14 20:07:06 2006 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:07:06 -0500 Subject: [USN-395-1] Linux kernel vulnerabilities In-Reply-To: <20061213154635.GC14077@piware.de> References: <20061213154635.GC14077@piware.de> Message-ID: On 12/13/06, Martin Pitt wrote: > =========================================================== > Ubuntu Security Notice USN-395-1 December 13, 2006 =========================================================== > Details follow: > > Mark Dowd discovered that the netfilter iptables module did not > correcly handle fragmented packets. By sending specially crafted > packets, a remote attacker could exploit this to bypass firewall > rules. This has only be fixed for Ubuntu 6.10; the corresponding fix > for Ubuntu 5.10 and 6.06 will follow soon. (CVE-2006-4572) Any ETA or suggested work arounds for dapper users? Thanks, Chuck From doug_rintoul at sil.org Thu Dec 14 20:22:24 2006 From: doug_rintoul at sil.org (Doug Rintoul) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:22:24 -0800 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <200612140955.58196.james@gray.net.au> References: <1165692109.5049.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1165893588.4975.6.camel@localhost> <200612140955.58196.james@gray.net.au> Message-ID: <1166127744.12653.23.camel@dawntreader.canil.ca> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 09:55 +1100, James Gray wrote: > Heheh - comparing a Dell with a Mac....that's the best laugh I've had in a > while :) Thanks! > > James Ooo, you have convinced me. I am canceling my order for the Dell right now and running down to my local Apple store drooling for that "It Just Works" experience I hear so much about. Is that the best response you can come up with? The OP asked for a comparably configured non-MAC LAPPY. I think that is what I came up with. To be honest, I could have added Bluetooth and a webcam. And I should have selected the higher end LCD screen for the Dell. But then I should have compare this configuration to the MacBook Pro with a 17" screen at $3099 CDN. Note that we are talking hardware here and about running Ubuntu on it. It is quite possible that OS X is worth the extra $400-1000 premium you pay for buying a Mac. Not for me. I prefer Ubuntu. Don't get me wrong. I know that Apple make great hardware. And that Dell has made some crap in the past. But I have also bought lemon iBooks and great Dell laptops. The current crop of Dells are getting good reviews for fit and finish and construction. You go ahead and buy your Porsche. My Honda Civic gets me around town just fine. Cheers, Doug. From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 14 20:38:56 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:38:56 +0100 Subject: Samba: meet LDAP In-Reply-To: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> References: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Am 14.12.2006 um 19:15 schrieb Brian Fahrlander: > Rather than all sorts of critical details, I was hoping for input > from folks that have done this- there are many HowTos, as well as the > Samba site, but I kinda want to pick the brains of people fresh from > that fight: what's the best way to go about it, especially if it's > done > remotely... 1. Get SSH Access (I assume you have that) 2. rdesktop or vnc (whichever you prefer) to a windows box 2 a)There are all sorts of tools to test the setup from the server side, but there are a couple of things you want to be 100% sure that work (Logon Scripts, different users, access to ldap address books, etc, whatever applies to you) 3. (This is where I would start working) Set up a box with vmware (or whichever virtualization you prefer) 4. Set up a linux and windows guest (get a windows and linux version as close as possible as the client has) 5. Prepare as much as possible on the vmware box 6. backup the clients samba and ldap config and paths that are shared as well as the ldap stuff 7. try out a restore 8. copy over the samba config 9. Do all the tests again in the live environment _after_ you made sure you can restore everything 10. have a happy client and convince him they need a 3 year support contract so that you get money out of it :) greets martin From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 14 20:41:23 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:41:23 +0100 Subject: [USN-395-1] Linux kernel vulnerabilities In-Reply-To: References: <20061213154635.GC14077@piware.de> Message-ID: <4942F7A5-74EC-4E45-8605-EAEC0D5B0ED1@openforce.com> Am 14.12.2006 um 21:07 schrieb Chuck Peters: > On 12/13/06, Martin Pitt wrote: >> =========================================================== >> Ubuntu Security Notice USN-395-1 December 13, 2006 > =========================================================== >> Details follow: >> >> Mark Dowd discovered that the netfilter iptables module did not >> correcly handle fragmented packets. By sending specially crafted >> packets, a remote attacker could exploit this to bypass firewall >> rules. This has only be fixed for Ubuntu 6.10; the corresponding fix >> for Ubuntu 5.10 and 6.06 will follow soon. (CVE-2006-4572) > > Any ETA or suggested work arounds for dapper users? download a kernel from org use the config provided by ubuntu done I have honestly no Idea which patches are in a ubuntu kernel, the other option I'd try would be to get a kernel source package from 6.10 and compile it with the config from the version you are using, that should also fix it hth martin From hrapof at common-lisp.ru Thu Dec 14 20:41:00 2006 From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: DHCP References: <20061214074719.GB5312@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: ben darby cvrse.com> writes: > do you want to use network manager or the standard network settings > (/etc/network/interfaces)? if the former ensure that there are no > references to eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces file. and for > the latter ensure it contains: > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > Sorry for the misleading: by "Network Manager" I meant System>Administration>Networking (had to log in with English interface to name it right). My /etc/network/interfaces is as follows: ---------------------------------------- auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp ---------------------------------------- Same problem remains. From john.moniz at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 14 21:13:10 2006 From: john.moniz at sympatico.ca (John Moniz) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:13:10 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu on a 486? In-Reply-To: <4581162C.9090409@ubuntu.com> References: <457B7277.9050306@comcast.net> <2cfc2c9f0612122138y3de50b16n389adbfcd44dd122@mail.gmail.com> <23C855E8-051C-415A-8873-813BF0A6FBC9@openforce.com> <2cfc2c9f0612122237t46b79a3es28520547b1cf33f2@mail.gmail.com> <4581162C.9090409@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <4581BE66.4080003@sympatico.ca> Adam Conrad wrote: > > > >I think you make the mistake here of believing that we expend a great >deal of energy targetting 486-class CPUs. If a bug comes up in the >toolchain where we find we're accidentally generating opcodes a 486 >can't handle, sure, we'll look into it, but for the most part, the work >here is twofold: > >1) Build a kernel that can run on 486 machines (the poorly-named -386 >kernel, in our case... This is reasonably trivial) >2) Make sure our toolchain ..... > > > >... Adam > Adam, not knowing very much about kernel development, I'm curious as to the type of kernel work you would do there and how it would relate to the kernel work done by the Linux kernel development team. Are you part of that team? Thanks, John. From scamot2004 at gmx.at Thu Dec 14 21:22:20 2006 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:22:20 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> Message-ID: <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> Thanks everyone ! What a disappointment to have a 1 year old laptop slower than an old 7 years old desktop... That reminds me : At which point does the society of consumption does really benefit us ? ? Sure those 2 products are different, but 7 years is a lot for computers... note : on the laptop, W2K is pretty much faster than ubuntu 6.10 for the same kind of applications (I cannot compare to my desktop- it only runs ubuntu, so grrrrrrrreat I must say). Regarding the problem and to answer to your questions : Yes, DMA was activated. Number of services on the laptop running 6.10 : that's a fact : a very high amount of services is listed : a majority is checked (14 daemons), and some not. Which ones can I safely deactivate to improve ? buscom sys (checked) klogd (checked) syslogd (checked) britty (unchecked) acpid (checked) apmd (checked) bluetooth (unchecked) alsa-utils (unchecked) hotkey-set (checked) gdm (checked) powernowd (checked) rpc portmap (unchecked) screen (unchecked) hdparm (unchecked) anacron (unchecked) nfs-kernel-server (checked) samba (checked) DNS avahi-daemon (checked) cupsys (checked) hplip (checked) festival (unchecked) bug apport (checked) On my LTS desktop (all services are checked) : 8 services only. klogd sysklogd gdm mysql apache2 samba nfs server cupsys I shall try XFCE on the laptop, in order to get a faster ubuntu, if disabling more daemons do not enhance the performance. On my desktop, Ive noticed that the LTS version is now faster than the last version 5.10 was. sc On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:36:07 -0800 petevg at gmail.com wrote: > On 12/14/06, sebastien wrote: > > I wonder why ubuntu 6.10 uses Swap memory, on this laptop > > while no application is running ? And is it slow because it uses > > this swap memory ? > > Celeron processors are really watered down compared to Pentiums, and > the laptop has less RAM, further reducing its probable performance > relative to the desktop. > > As for the swap used ... the laptop's probably running battery > management software and the like in the background -- that might be > where the stuff dumped to swap is coming from. > From scamot2004 at gmx.at Thu Dec 14 21:45:06 2006 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:45:06 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> Message-ID: <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> OK, so another more accurate information. 1. On the celeron laptop Ive lauched OO word processor : * disabling acpid and apmd daemons (laptop energy management): ... in 18 seconds * acpid and apmd enabled : ... 22seconds. (inbetween I of course disconnected the session) 2. On my 7 years old pentium 733 : 15 seconds !!! ARGH... On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:22:20 +0100 sebastien wrote: > Thanks everyone ! > What a disappointment to have a 1 year old laptop > slower than an old 7 years old desktop... That reminds me : At which > point does the society of consumption does really benefit us ? ? Sure > those 2 products are different, but 7 years is a lot for computers... > > note : on the laptop, W2K is pretty much faster than ubuntu 6.10 for > the same kind of applications (I cannot compare to my desktop- it > only runs ubuntu, so grrrrrrrreat I must say). > > Regarding the problem and to answer to your questions : > > Yes, DMA was activated. > > Number of services on the laptop running 6.10 : that's a fact : a very > high amount of services is listed : a majority is checked (14 > daemons), and some not. Which ones can I safely deactivate to > improve ? > > buscom sys (checked) > klogd (checked) > syslogd (checked) > britty (unchecked) > acpid (checked) > apmd (checked) > bluetooth (unchecked) > alsa-utils (unchecked) > hotkey-set (checked) > gdm (checked) > powernowd (checked) > rpc portmap (unchecked) > screen (unchecked) > hdparm (unchecked) > anacron (unchecked) > nfs-kernel-server (checked) > samba (checked) > DNS avahi-daemon (checked) > cupsys (checked) > hplip (checked) > festival (unchecked) > bug apport (checked) > > On my LTS desktop (all services are checked) : 8 services only. > > klogd > sysklogd > gdm > mysql > apache2 > samba > nfs server > cupsys > > I shall try XFCE on the laptop, in order to get a faster ubuntu, if > disabling more daemons do not enhance the performance. > > On my desktop, Ive noticed that the LTS version is now faster than the > last version 5.10 was. > > sc > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:36:07 -0800 > petevg at gmail.com wrote: > > > On 12/14/06, sebastien wrote: > > > I wonder why ubuntu 6.10 uses Swap memory, on this laptop > > > while no application is running ? And is it slow because it uses > > > this swap memory ? > > > > Celeron processors are really watered down compared to Pentiums, and > > the laptop has less RAM, further reducing its probable performance > > relative to the desktop. > > > > As for the swap used ... the laptop's probably running battery > > management software and the like in the background -- that might be > > where the stuff dumped to swap is coming from. > > > From ben at cvrse.com Thu Dec 14 21:51:05 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:51:05 +1100 Subject: DHCP In-Reply-To: References: <20061214074719.GB5312@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <20061214215105.GA6706@rip.cvrse.com> * Dmitri Hrapof wrote: > Sorry for the misleading: by "Network Manager" I meant > System>Administration>Networking (had to log in with English interface to name > it right). > My /etc/network/interfaces is as follows: > ---------------------------------------- > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > ---------------------------------------- > Same problem remains. does running 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' have the same effect on your machine as your ifdown & ifup? how long does it take to recieve a DHCPOFFER? 'grep dhclient /var/log/syslog' whats the output around boot time? -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 23:03:38 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:03:38 +0000 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> Message-ID: <45391f280612141503h1eefdebaw3973ae6677710c48@mail.gmail.com> On 14/12/06, sebastien wrote: > > OK, so another more accurate information. > > 1. On the celeron laptop Ive lauched OO word processor : > * disabling acpid and apmd daemons (laptop energy management): > ... in 18 seconds > * acpid and apmd enabled : > ... 22seconds. > (inbetween I of course disconnected the session) > > 2. On my 7 years old pentium 733 : > 15 seconds !!! > > ARGH... > What does bonnie tell you about the performance of the disks. You should find the laptop has a slower drive in which could explain the reduced perceived performance. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a24061 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 00:28:55 2006 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:28:55 +0000 Subject: Lost use of webcam upgrading from dapper to edgy. Message-ID: <7r6954-u39.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Under dapper my USB webcam (Logitech Quickcam 4000 Pro) worked in camorama without any tweaking whatever, but since I upgraded to edgy all I get is a grey field instead of the image. The light on the webcam is on and /dev/video0 is present (with /dev/video symlinked to it). Any suggestions for debugging this? Thanks, Adam From ljpino at grm.net Fri Dec 15 00:58:23 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:58:23 -0600 Subject: Firefox, switch default mp3 player away from Totem. In-Reply-To: <4581EAFD.30302@grm.net> References: <52fe24490612131251j528803b7wee5c934198de82ba@mail.gmail.com> <4581EAFD.30302@grm.net> Message-ID: <4581F32F.4090603@grm.net> Lorin Pino wrote: > Tony K. wrote: >> I have recently noticed (since installing to Ubuntu 6.10?) that Totem >> wants to automatically start up to play mp3's when using Firefox. I >> cannot find where to change the preferences to use another application >> like XMMS. How do I change the preferences? The download save box >> does not ask me whether or not I want to open the mp3 with another >> application. >> >> > Try looking here: > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76726.html > See if that helps. > Lorin > I also found this: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/ The same dialog comes up using konqueror/kde. ~Lorin From garryknight at gmx.net Fri Dec 15 01:49:14 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:49:14 +0000 Subject: cannot add a hard drive References: <4413284c0612121004u6b1557c7veea2691cc47207ff@mail.gmail.com> <1165949679.14629.33.camel@edubuntu> <4413284c0612121139i6944d9beta563937cd4e17eee@mail.gmail.com> <1166102769.4948.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: Trevor Nye wrote: > I have added a drive to my machine, but cannot get it to mount. I have > gparted it, no problem. but I cannot get it to mount. It says no entry > in fstab, which is true. What kind of drive? An IDE drive? Did you hook it up to the 2nd IDE controller? If so, then it will be called hdc. If you slaved it to the 1st controller, it will be hdb. And the slave on the 2nd controller is hdd. How many partitions did you create? Just the one? In that case it will be hdc1. And what format did you choose? Was it ext3? Or something else? And where do you want it mounted? Do you want to use it for /home? Or, maybe, /backup? Depending on the answers to these questions, you would need to add a line to /etc/fstab that looks something like this: /dev/hdc1 /backup ext3 defaults 0 2 > sorry to be so stupid I'm sure you already know that not having information that you haven't yet been given is not the same as being stupid. > tia yw. :-) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Dec 15 02:03:03 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:03:03 -0500 Subject: encrypted image file Message-ID: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> okay, on the Mac, I could make a encrypted image file with AES 256, and enter a password, set the size 2 - 4GB it would create a image file, and would NOT MOUNT it, until I enter the password correctly, the you could add folder and files.. and whatever to the image. -- NOW, is there anything like that for ubuntu. I work on, allot of clients projects...so once I am done, I would unmount the image file. Thanks- Rich From garryknight at gmx.net Fri Dec 15 02:17:04 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:17:04 +0000 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: Message-ID: David Armour wrote: > what constitutes "stripped-down" these days? If you keep videos on your hard drive you could play around with, say, ffmpeg to find out which is the smallest format you could convert them to. Ogg files are smaller than MP3s, though it's only useful to convert them if you're not regularly downloading them onto an MP3 player. And writing the scripts to convert videos and MP3s will keep *you* slim. :-) And if you prefer MP3 format, do your MP3s have to be at 128-192 Kbps? I use lame to resample some of mine down to 64 or even 32 Kbps in order to fit as many as possible onto my Pocket PC (I have 17 albums worth on there at the moment, totalling 101.7 MB. Who needs an iPod?). And MP3s containing just speech can be resampled down to 16 Kbps or lower in some cases. Of course, if you do resample them, you'll want to back up the originals on CD. Open Document Format files are smaller than .doc, .rtf, and so on. And both OpenOffice and KOffice can handle them. So if you've been using old formats for the sake of compatibility, maybe now's the time to change. I believe OO has the ability to convert a directory full of documents in one batch. Any files you don't use much (or not at all) you could compress. I use zip with mine. And I usually zip whole directories of mostly-unused stuff. I can then use Midnight Commander (mc) to view them as it can treat a zip file (or .gz, or .tgz, or .bz2) as a directory. Of course, if there are a lot of files you don't use much, or files you don't intend to edit or change in the future, you can burn them to CD. The first candidate that springs to mind is /usr/share/doc: [garry ~]$ du -hs /usr/share/doc 774M /usr/share/doc You could fire up Synaptic and go through the list of installed packages, pruning out the ones you never use. The ones that don't also require removing ubuntu-desktop, of course... These are just off the top of my head. Hey, if you get enough replies, you could start the Small Hard Disk Diet HowTo. :-) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From mahonea0 at evilweasels.no-ip.com Fri Dec 15 03:00:15 2006 From: mahonea0 at evilweasels.no-ip.com (Andrew Mahoney) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:00:15 +0000 Subject: Lost use of webcam upgrading from dapper to edgy. In-Reply-To: <7r6954-u39.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> References: <7r6954-u39.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> Message-ID: <1166151615.13079.9.camel@beergut.evilweasels.no-ip.com> On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 00:28 +0000, Adam Funk wrote: > Under dapper my USB webcam (Logitech Quickcam 4000 Pro) worked in > camorama without any tweaking whatever, but since I upgraded to edgy > all I get is a grey field instead of the image. The light on the > webcam is on and /dev/video0 is present (with /dev/video symlinked to > it). > > Any suggestions for debugging this? > > Thanks, > Adam Had this problem myself with a Creative Webcam Pro Ex, I knew that it used the pwc driver (it appears yours does too) then I found this had been added to the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#head-836881f8aaa64508507ce1f2091b24b8aead02cb It has a test to check if your driver is broke and step by step instructions for compiling a working version. good luck Andrew From anthony75a at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 03:47:59 2006 From: anthony75a at gmail.com (Anthony D.) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:47:59 -0600 Subject: No mp3 tags in Edgy? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45821AEF.9030307@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:54:59 -0500 From: "Darryl Clarke" Subject: Re: No mp3 tags in Edgy? To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <37dd77890612141154q679605f0o46e478aecd8143c2 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 12/14/06, Anthony D. wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > When either ripping CDs as mp3s or translating my flac files into mp3s > > in Edgy, I've noticed there's no mp3 tags at all being written. I've > > checked ID3v1 and v2 within programs like EasyTag, xmms, etc., and > > there's usually nothing at all written besides the name of the song. > > Tried ripping my CDs with SoundJuicer and grip, and translating the > > flacs into mp3s with soundconverter (both the version that came with > > Ubuntu and the newest version compiled from the program's website), > > but nothing comes of any of these. > > > > Any ideas or suggestions on what's wrong, or how to rectify this? Thanks! > > >>Do you have libtag installed? >>sounds like it's missing... (this is really just a guess though.) Yes, libtag (libtag1c2a, per Synaptic) was installed... Anthony -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFghruzwIa79lKFVURAp82AKCNZYeb+z4yg90OX1xcoI7pZvF8bACeMnDc 2A88Z1vKlgzHYNhJYwDJBDs= =KQhw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Fri Dec 15 04:10:35 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: Message-ID: Garry Knight gmx.net> writes: thank you for your reply! > David Armour wrote: > > what constitutes "stripped-down" these days? > > If you keep videos on your hard drive you could play around with, say, > ffmpeg to find out which is the smallest format you could convert them to. I don't. > Ogg files are smaller than MP3s, though it's only useful to convert them if > you're not regularly downloading them onto an MP3 player. And writing the > scripts to convert videos and MP3s will keep *you* slim. Now *there's* a thought! > > And if you prefer MP3 format, do your MP3s have to be at 128-192 Kbps? I use > lame to resample some of mine down to 64 or even 32 Kbps in order to fit as > many as possible onto my Pocket PC (I have 17 albums worth on there at the > moment, totalling 101.7 MB. Who needs an iPod?). And MP3s containing just > speech can be resampled down to 16 Kbps or lower in some cases. Of course, > if you do resample them, you'll want to back up the originals on CD. I have mp3s, and OpenOffice .docs, and .jpgs in comparative abundance, but nothing that I can point to as the main memory hog. I transferred the .jpgs from one picture sub-directory to cd, today, and gained 1/3 G, in the process. But I'm still under a G free. Most of the remaining pix get cycled through the screensaver, and I'm not particularly attached to any of them enough to care if they're occupying hard drive real estate or cd. ... > > Of course, if there are a lot of files you don't use much, or files you > don't intend to edit or change in the future, you can burn them to CD. The > first candidate that springs to mind is /usr/share/doc: > [garry ~]$ du -hs /usr/share/doc > 774M /usr/share/doc I'm reminding myself of the engineer Dilbert was testing who answered "all of them!" when asked how many of the pens in his pocket protector he needed: most of the files I'm using, I'm using weekly. But I like the idea of periodically moving most of 'em to cd. > > You could fire up Synaptic and go through the list of installed packages, > pruning out the ones you never use. The ones that don't also require > removing ubuntu-desktop, of course... Yep, she's a keeper. > > These are just off the top of my head. Hey, if you get enough replies, you > could start the Small Hard Disk Diet HowTo. I had a plan along those lines. Thanks again for your contribution. > From ianc at kiwiplan.co.nz Fri Dec 15 04:21:04 2006 From: ianc at kiwiplan.co.nz (Ian Collins) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:21:04 +1300 Subject: rsync mirrors for ubuntu updates Message-ID: <458222B0.4000205@kiwiplan.co.nz> Hi, Is it possible to rsync the Ubuntu updates to a local server (to save bandwidth for multiple machines). If so, what are the mirrors to rsync from? Cheers, Ian Collins From chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org Wed Dec 13 01:34:10 2006 From: chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org (Christopher Dale) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:34:10 -0600 Subject: Gui password In-Reply-To: <727fc2ee0612121722o2f66c95do55520cecc410b45c@mail.gmail.com> References: <727fc2ee0612111645k19cfa99as852b47592f52ac6a@mail.gmail.com> <1365ade30612111735p755de118sf200549f8e75382a@mail.gmail.com> <727fc2ee0612121722o2f66c95do55520cecc410b45c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061213013409.GA8159@forsytheappraisals.com> You may also want to just pop open a terminal with 'alt'+'f2' and then type in 'passwd' and then follow the instructions. Hopefully this helps you out. Good question by the way. Christopher On (12/12/06 17:22), User Iam wrote: > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, > not for general discussions" > From: User Iam > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:22:12 -0800 > Subject: Re: Gui password > > > Thank YOU > User Iam > > On 12/11/06, maman durahman <[1]durahman at gmail.com> wrote: > > system--preference--about me. You can change your passowrd there. > On 12/12/06, User Iam <[2]vramnum10 at gmail.com> wrote: > > HI > > > > How do I change the GUI password..? > > > > If I change my password in a terminal screen it only changes the > text login > > stuff... > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > [3]ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > [4]https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > References > > 1. mailto:durahman at gmail.com > 2. mailto:vramnum10 at gmail.com > 3. mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > 4. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From silwenae at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 04:49:59 2006 From: silwenae at gmail.com (Paul Cutler) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:49:59 -0600 Subject: No mp3 tags in Edgy? In-Reply-To: <45821AEF.9030307@gmail.com> References: <45821AEF.9030307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ad4df0612142049j29bf6352vab32d5539249854f@mail.gmail.com> I have a clean install of 6.10, and I have the same problem with no tags being written by Soundjuicer. Libtag is installed. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! Paul silwenae at gmail.com On 12/14/06, Anthony D. wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:54:59 -0500 > From: "Darryl Clarke" > Subject: Re: No mp3 tags in Edgy? > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" > > Message-ID: > <37dd77890612141154q679605f0o46e478aecd8143c2 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 12/14/06, Anthony D. wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > When either ripping CDs as mp3s or translating my flac files into mp3s > > > in Edgy, I've noticed there's no mp3 tags at all being written. I've > > > checked ID3v1 and v2 within programs like EasyTag, xmms, etc., and > > > there's usually nothing at all written besides the name of the song. > > > Tried ripping my CDs with SoundJuicer and grip, and translating the > > > flacs into mp3s with soundconverter (both the version that came with > > > Ubuntu and the newest version compiled from the program's website), > > > but nothing comes of any of these. > > > > > > Any ideas or suggestions on what's wrong, or how to rectify this? > Thanks! > > > > > >>Do you have libtag installed? > > >>sounds like it's missing... 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URL: From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Fri Dec 15 05:17:58 2006 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:17:58 -0500 Subject: Plaintext passwords in Gaim Message-ID: <45823006.8070401@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I noticed quite some time ago that gaim stores account passwords in plaintext (~/.gaim/accounts.xml). Is there any way around this? Digest-style authentication of some sort? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFgjAG6iO+5ByUi/QRAmrhAJ0YFO9oulU3C7Anoe7JkuYnRd8pcwCghMsF G8z63ZO0rKKzpwlhxYo6WqE= =kr5p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scotth at csee.wvu.edu Fri Dec 15 05:35:40 2006 From: scotth at csee.wvu.edu (Scott J. Henson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:35:40 -0500 Subject: Plaintext passwords in Gaim In-Reply-To: <45823006.8070401@earthlink.net> References: <45823006.8070401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Anthony Yarusso wrote: > I noticed quite some time ago that gaim stores account passwords in > plaintext (~/.gaim/accounts.xml). Is there any way around this? > Digest-style authentication of some sort? It really depends on the service your connecting to, and to my knowledge there are no IM protocols in common use that support digest authentication. So gaim has to store the passwords in some form it can retrieve at a later time. If it encrypted them it would still have to store the master password somewhere. The correct solution would be to use gnome-keyring. If your interested, there seems to be a patch. Not sure what version of gaim its for, but it should be worth a try. http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/gaim-08-gnome-keyring.diff -- Scott Henson LCSEE Systems Staff WVU MAE Undergraduate Ubuntu User From Gilles at Gravier.org Fri Dec 15 05:38:40 2006 From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:38:40 +0100 Subject: encrypted image file In-Reply-To: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <458234E0.9010109@Gravier.org> Hi! Have you looked at : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto Gilles. Richard wrote: > okay, on the Mac, I could make a encrypted image file with AES 256, > and enter a password, set the size 2 - 4GB it would create a image file, > and would NOT MOUNT it, > until I enter the password correctly, the you could add folder and > files.. and whatever > to the image. > > -- > NOW, is there anything like that for ubuntu. > I work on, allot of clients projects...so once I am done, I would > unmount the image file. > > Thanks- > Rich > > > -- /*Gilles Gravier*/ *=* *Gilles at Gravier.org* *=* *http://www.gravier.org/* ICQ : *77488526* * || *MSN Messenger : Gilles at Gravier.org * *Skype : ggravier * || *Y! : ggravier || AOL : gillesgravier PGP Key ID : *0x8DE6D026* "Chastity is its own punishment." (/Solomon Short/) [/David Gerrold/] "De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GAIM would still need to ungarble them to send them over the wire, so the (very simple) algorithm to do that would obviously be public. Having them unreadable may give you a false sense of security, but I could still read them anyway, so you would have gained nothing. ... Adam From brad at bkjohnson.com Fri Dec 15 06:00:37 2006 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:00:37 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 14:36 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > On 12/14/06, Andrew Zajac wrote: > > The laptop has less ram than the desktop. The desktop does not swap > > because there is more ram available. > > Yes, but once it's all up, it uses less memory than there is, so the > problem is somewhere else. > > Did you check that the hard disk(s) had DMA enabled? > sudo hdparm /dev/hda > > Hervé. If SWAP is used, then there isn't enough RAM. It IS that simple. You could probably pick at services and shut things down to help the problem but the main cause of laptop slowness is RAM and HDD speed. Find yourself a 7200RPM replacement HDD and Install at least 512MB of RAM. You will find the performance will increase incredibly. If you can't afford the new HDD then at least upgrade the RAM. 256K is not enough. Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM HDD. Brad From brad at bkjohnson.com Fri Dec 15 06:02:40 2006 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:02:40 -0600 Subject: rsync mirrors for ubuntu updates In-Reply-To: <458222B0.4000205@kiwiplan.co.nz> References: <458222B0.4000205@kiwiplan.co.nz> Message-ID: <1166162560.4804.13.camel@t42> On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 17:21 +1300, Ian Collins wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to rsync the Ubuntu updates to a local server (to save > bandwidth for multiple machines). > If so, what are the mirrors to rsync from? > > Cheers, > Ian Collins > > > > look at apt-mirror http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/ From geda.mail at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 06:45:48 2006 From: geda.mail at gmail.com (primorec) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:45:48 +0000 Subject: laptop HP nx6325 amd64 x2 automatix2 media codecs Message-ID: Hi All, I am trying to run Microsoft based media codecs on ubuntu amd64 6.10 Edgy on HP Compaq nx6325 to no avail. All codecs were installed via automatix2. 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'dmidecode' does not give any info regarding core count cat /proc/cpuinfo talks about 2 cores In short: How can I check if both cores are utilized (enabled , used) ? Regards Igor P.S:------------------------------------ DMIDECODE OUTPUT: ======================== Processor Information Socket Designation: U10 Type: Central Processor Family: Athlon 64 Manufacturer: AMD(R) ID: 82 0F 04 00 FF FB 8B 17 Signature: Extended Family 0, Model 8, Stepping 2 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) HTT (Hyper-threading technology) Version: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 Voltage: 1.1 V External Clock: 200 MHz Max Speed: 1800 MHz Current Speed: 1800 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: None L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005 L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006 L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided Serial Number: Not Specified Asset Tag: Not Specified Part Number: Not Specified CAT /PROC/CPUINFO OUTPUT: ========================== ubuntu at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy bogomips : 1598.07 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy bogomips : 1598.07 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 07:06:37 2006 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:06:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Plaintext passwords in Gaim Message-ID: <20061215070638.3870.qmail@web58913.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Anthony Yarusso wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I noticed quite some time ago that gaim stores account passwords in > plaintext (~/.gaim/accounts.xml). Is there any way around this? > Digest-style authentication of some sort? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFgjAG6iO 5ByUi/QRAmrhAJ0YFO9oulU3C7Anoe7JkuYnRd8pcwCghMsF > G8z63ZO0rKKzpwlhxYo6WqE= > =kr5p > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Mine doesn't have them in there. I never did put them in the box when I was setting up the accounts either so that may be a way around it. You just won't have auto login. Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 07:14:26 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:14:26 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10 amd64 Edgy on HP nx6325 dual core AMD64 X2 laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612142314o299ead00wbf71516648a82ac9@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, primorec wrote: > How can I check if both cores are utilized (enabled , used) ? /proc/cpuinfo is already telling you. It sees two cores. It uses two cores. Two cores are enabled. Otherwise, you wouldn't see mention of them -and your computer wouldn't run, possibly, since getting it wrong on the type and number of processors would be quite problematic- Now, if you want software that specifically uses both cores efficiently, you have two options: wait for some other member of this list to answer (I don't have a multi-core processor, sadly), or compile. The -j option in gcc is, I presume, more or less the further you'll get this way, since nowadays, for "common" users there's almost no need of multi-core solutions (just as how, for common users, a 64-bit processor is overkill. I have an Athlon 64. It is overkill. 90% of the time it's running at half its speed thanks to the frequency governors, and I run Ubuntu i386). -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 15 07:18:53 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:18:53 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> Message-ID: <45824C5D.4020504@welcomes-you.com> Brad Johnson wrote: > Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM > HDD. Because it runs hotter and is more noisy than a 5400 or even 4200rpm drive? Also, a 7200rpm model consumes about twice the wattage than a 4200 or a good 5400rpm model, e.g. look through the hitachigst.com pages. Back to OP: Even if the swap is used, he writes that only 145 of his 256 MB of RAM are used. I guess that the system pushed something unused into swap to have more room for buffer caches and the like. It would be interesting to see what services are running, thus: Can you please provide us with the output of ps aux then we might see, if there really is a resource bottleneck lurking around. Cheers Carsten From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 07:19:06 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:19:06 +0100 Subject: Plaintext passwords in Gaim In-Reply-To: <45823006.8070401@earthlink.net> References: <45823006.8070401@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612142319n79b842d9j11f6b369a1d4f094@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Anthony Yarusso wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I noticed quite some time ago that gaim stores account passwords in > plaintext (~/.gaim/accounts.xml). Is there any way around this? > Digest-style authentication of some sort? It's a Gaim FAQ, so go check them. If memory serves, the only protocol as of then supported by Gaim and "secure" in the sense you mean is SILC. Basically, for the reasons Adam Conrad mentions, Gaim developers think it's useless and wrong (because it would give a false sense of security) to encrypt passwords in some way when, as Adam says, they have to transmit them in the clear. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From cameron.lists at desk003.com Fri Dec 15 07:27:56 2006 From: cameron.lists at desk003.com (cameron conner) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:27:56 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> Message-ID: <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:00:37 -0600, Brad Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 14:36 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: >> On 12/14/06, Andrew Zajac wrote: >>> The laptop has less ram than the desktop. The desktop does not swap >>> because there is more ram available. >> >> Yes, but once it's all up, it uses less memory than there is, so the >> problem is somewhere else. >> >> Did you check that the hard disk(s) had DMA enabled? >> sudo hdparm /dev/hda >> >> Hervé. > > If SWAP is used, then there isn't enough RAM. It IS that simple. > > You could probably pick at services and shut things down to help the > problem but the main cause of laptop slowness is RAM and HDD speed. > > Find yourself a 7200RPM replacement HDD and Install at least 512MB of > RAM. You will find the performance will increase incredibly. If you > can't afford the new HDD then at least upgrade the RAM. 256K is not > enough. > > Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM > HDD. Not to intrude here, however battery life and heat are two major reasons for staying away from 7200rpm drives in laptops... > Brad > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users peace, cameron -- AIM&Y!: desk003com From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 07:23:55 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:23:55 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612142323nd402ad4o65ae178a66b82c43@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Brad Johnson wrote: > Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM > HDD. Because they're not available here in Italy (substitute with favourite country) at decent prices? "Normal" notebooks here still carry -as a default- a 5400 rpm drive. You can certainly find faster ones, but they aren't worth their price, IMHO. Not that I have the money to actually buy them, but still... -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 15 07:25:41 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:25:41 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> Message-ID: <45824DF5.80001@welcomes-you.com> sebastien wrote: > OK, so another more accurate information. > 1. On the celeron laptop Ive lauched OO word processor : > * disabling acpid and apmd daemons (laptop energy management): > ... in 18 seconds > * acpid and apmd enabled : > ... 22seconds. > (inbetween I of course disconnected the session) > 2. On my 7 years old pentium 733 : > 15 seconds !!! Like Steve wrote, it would be nice to try bonnie (or faster and more inaccurate "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" and the output of "sudo hdparm -I /dev/hda", assuming hda is the harddisk). OOwrite loads a lot of stuff from the hard disk, thus if the throughput of the laptop drive is much less than that of the desktop system, this would explain it. Also loading OO might push things into swap, making things even slower (try looking at the swap level before and after loading oowriter). Regarding acpid: I guess the system is in a lower power state, which frequency scaling governor do you use? Either try sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_* sudo cat /sys//devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_*gov* or use one of the applets helping with this, e.g. klaptop or its Gnome twin. HTH Carsten From geda.mail at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 08:24:52 2006 From: geda.mail at gmail.com (primorec) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:24:52 +0000 Subject: ubuntu 6.10 amd64 Edgy on HP nx6325 dual core AMD64 X2 laptop In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612142314o299ead00wbf71516648a82ac9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612142314o299ead00wbf71516648a82ac9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/15/06, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > > On 12/15/06, primorec wrote: > > How can I check if both cores are utilized (enabled , used) ? > > /proc/cpuinfo is already telling you. yes I see but why I do not see 2 CPUs (cores) in the output of the 'top' command ? I do remember that INTEL Pentium with hyper threading is seen as 2 CPUs. It sees two cores. It uses two > cores. Two cores are enabled. Otherwise, you wouldn't see mention of > them -and your computer wouldn't run, possibly, since getting it wrong > on the type and number of processors would be quite problematic- thanks ... I agree Now, if you want software that specifically uses both cores > efficiently, you have two options: wait for some other member of this > list to answer (I don't have a multi-core processor, sadly), or > compile. > > The -j option in gcc is, I presume, more or less the further you'll > get this way, since nowadays, for "common" users there's almost no > need of multi-core solutions (just as how, for common users, a 64-bit > processor is overkill. I have an Athlon 64. It is overkill. 90% of the > time it's running at half its speed thanks to the frequency governors, > and I run Ubuntu i386). again ... I agree with you... but I did not have a lot of choices... I've won this contest http://www.novell.com/linux/ready/. Two days ago I've received from Novell an HP nx6325 with SLED10 preinstalled. See http://www.novell.com/linux/ready/prizes.php Unfortunately, SLED10 is not stable enough. It crashed in the last two days 3 times for no apparent reason. Or, to bi a little bit more precise. It crashed 2 times after burning CD with K3B. On top of that 'kacpid,acpid,acpi' does not work correctly. 'kacpid' is pushing CPU to run at 100%. 'dmesg' is telling me that the SMP is disabled. I've decided to explore other options, like ubuntu. I've heard a lot of very positive comments about it. So, here I am... learning debian based distro. My plan is to install MS WIN XP via vmware player. I am going to give this laptop to my daughter. She needs MS WINDOWS in school. So, I hope that the vmware, with WIN XP as a guest OS, will run on on one core and the host OS (ubuntu) will use the second core.... therefore I need a tool to see if both cores are used or not. Any help/hint/pointer to RTFM is more than welcome Igor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scamot2004 at gmx.at Fri Dec 15 08:35:19 2006 From: scamot2004 at gmx.at (sebastien) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:35:19 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: <45824DF5.80001@welcomes-you.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> <20061214224506.6eb2f1b1@localhost> <45824DF5.80001@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <20061215093519.55709a52@localhost> Hi all ! many many thanks for your contributions ! So, enclosed more details : 1. on this link, my two respective ps aux output http://camuzat.sebastien.free.fr/ps-aux.odt 2. Then, you'll find below the bonnie's outputs : Bonnie's output on my desktop PC : ____________________________________________________________________ Version 1. 03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP seb 1G 9961 93 19272 27 8203 11 11829 85 17233 11 122.3 1 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 468 99 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 489 99 +++++ +++ 2021 95 seb,1G,9961,93,19272,27,8203,11,11829,85,17233,11,122.3,1,16,468,99,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,489,99,+++++,+++,2021,95 ____________________________________________________________________ Bonnie's output on the laptop : ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP caro 480M 15852 57 13916 4 8361 2 16544 56 27841 4 95.6 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 1602 70 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 1891 80 +++++ +++ 6762 70 caro,480M,15852,57,13916,4,8361,2,16544,56,27841,4,95.6,0,16,1602,70,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,1891,80,+++++,+++,6762,70 ________________________________________________________________ The outputs are messy... hope you can understand them. n Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:25:41 +0100 Carsten Aulbert wrote: > sebastien wrote: > > OK, so another more accurate information. > > > 1. On the celeron laptop Ive lauched OO word processor : > > * disabling acpid and apmd daemons (laptop energy management): > > ... in 18 seconds > > * acpid and apmd enabled : > > ... 22seconds. > > (inbetween I of course disconnected the session) > > > 2. On my 7 years old pentium 733 : > > 15 seconds !!! > > > Like Steve wrote, it would be nice to try bonnie (or faster and more > inaccurate "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" and the output of "sudo hdparm > -I /dev/hda", assuming hda is the harddisk). > > OOwrite loads a lot of stuff from the hard disk, thus if the > throughput of the laptop drive is much less than that of the desktop > system, this would explain it. Also loading OO might push things into > swap, making things even slower (try looking at the swap level before > and after loading oowriter). > > Regarding acpid: I guess the system is in a lower power state, which > frequency scaling governor do you use? Either try > sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_* > sudo cat /sys//devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_*gov* > > or use one of the applets helping with this, e.g. klaptop or its > Gnome twin. > > HTH > > Carsten > From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 08:36:13 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:36:13 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 6.10 amd64 Edgy on HP nx6325 dual core AMD64 X2 laptop In-Reply-To: References: <2cfc2c9f0612142314o299ead00wbf71516648a82ac9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150036h3c562d31v23197741bd950fb3@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, primorec wrote: > yes I see but why I do not see 2 CPUs (cores) in the output of the > 'top' command ? > I do remember that INTEL Pentium with hyper threading is seen as 2 CPUs. I don't really know, but then again, top isn't the best thing for measuring precisely other indicators, like free RAM or such. It will only give you a good estimate. Since it already says "CPU(s)", it might be a different version of top you have to install, an error by the other poster, or something else I don't know about. > again ... I agree with you... but I did not have a lot of choices... > I've won > this contest http://www.novell.com/linux/ready/. Two days > ago I've received from > Novell an HP nx6325 with SLED10 preinstalled. See > http://www.novell.com/linux/ready/prizes.php What can I say, besides "I wish I had this shortage of choices"? Congratulations! And welcome to Ubuntu! -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 15 08:44:08 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:44:08 +0100 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: Message-ID: David Armour wrote: > Hello list! > > They Thought It Would Never Happen Dept.: > > Incredibly, my 30G hard drive has less than 1G remaining free space! The > mind boggles, and I've come over all twitterpated-loik. Lacking, however, > this close to Giftmas the disposable fifty or so to buy a replacement -- > and probably much larger hard drive! --, I'm keen to learn what the > hive-mind might consider "best practice" for putting a small-to-middling > hard drive with a single-user, edgy system, generic box with vanilla > cd-burner on a reducing plan? What to do? What to do first? I can see, for > instance, that I don't have to have all those children grad photos on > there, or an assortment of '60s music, but what constitutes > "stripped-down" these days? > > As always, any responses greatly appreciated. I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. df -h shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and what percentage of that space is in use. Now, let's assume that your home directory is the place that needs to slim down. Just in case, your problem is located elsewhere, synaptic is your friend. For an overview of filespace usage in my $home, I personally prefer kdirstat to show me in detail, which directory is eating up my space. Surely you can do this with a bunch of other tools and on commandline. I prefer to do it graphically to have a comfortable overview when it comes down to deleting files that I kept for so long.... hth Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 15 09:11:38 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:11:38 +0100 Subject: TFT pivot? References: <4413284c0612140659p137c865cme04f511aed2de2ab@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140727j4d6e13f3sc64722f62e72c314@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hervé Fache wrote: >> [...Nvidia does it perfectly...] > In the video card "device" section of xorg.conf: > Option "Rotate" "CCW" > Option "SWCursor" "On" > > Told you I was bored. > Hervé. > Thanks much Hervé, actually my next video board will be from Nvidia. Unfortunately for now, the rotate option does _not_ work for me. I tried this more than once and it simply had no effect. Thanks much anyway Eberhard From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk Fri Dec 15 09:43:04 2006 From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:43:04 +0000 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061215094303.GB4036@clivemenzies.co.uk> On (15/12/06 09:44), Eberhard Roloff wrote: > David Armour wrote: > > > Hello list! > > > > They Thought It Would Never Happen Dept.: > > > > Incredibly, my 30G hard drive has less than 1G remaining free space! The > > mind boggles, and I've come over all twitterpated-loik. Lacking, however, > > this close to Giftmas the disposable fifty or so to buy a replacement -- > > and probably much larger hard drive! --, I'm keen to learn what the > > hive-mind might consider "best practice" for putting a small-to-middling > > hard drive with a single-user, edgy system, generic box with vanilla > > cd-burner on a reducing plan? What to do? What to do first? I can see, for > > instance, that I don't have to have all those children grad photos on > > there, or an assortment of '60s music, but what constitutes > > "stripped-down" these days? > > > > As always, any responses greatly appreciated. > > I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. > > df -h > shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and what > percentage of that space is in use. > > Now, let's assume that your home directory is the place that needs to slim > down. > Just in case, your problem is located elsewhere, synaptic is your friend. > > For an overview of filespace usage in my $home, I personally prefer kdirstat > to show me in detail, which directory is eating up my space. > Surely you can do this with a bunch of other tools and on commandline. I > prefer to do it graphically to have a comfortable overview when it comes > down to deleting files that I kept for so long.... As root or sudo: # du -h --max-depth=1 / will show which topline directory is taking up space; you can then work iteratively through directories to locate the space hogs. eg if /home is large # du -h --max-depth=1 /home will show where in /home You could also use deborphan to identify libs and packages you're not using: $ deborphan will show unused libs $ deborphan -ap5 will show the least important packages installed (-ap1 the most important) - see man deborphan. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business From ogra at ubuntu.com Fri Dec 15 10:07:47 2006 From: ogra at ubuntu.com (Oliver Grawert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:07:47 +0100 Subject: [USN-395-1] Linux kernel vulnerabilities In-Reply-To: References: <20061213154635.GC14077@piware.de> Message-ID: <1166177267.16336.7.camel@edubuntu> hi, Am Donnerstag, den 14.12.2006, 15:07 -0500 schrieb Chuck Peters: > On 12/13/06, Martin Pitt wrote: > > =========================================================== > > Ubuntu Security Notice USN-395-1 December 13, 2006 > =========================================================== > > Details follow: > > > > Mark Dowd discovered that the netfilter iptables module did not > > correcly handle fragmented packets. By sending specially crafted > > packets, a remote attacker could exploit this to bypass firewall > > rules. This has only be fixed for Ubuntu 6.10; the corresponding fix > > for Ubuntu 5.10 and 6.06 will follow soon. 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Is there a problem if I don't have a file /etc/raidtab? Some more info. Tell me if you need more. root at xxx:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md1 : active raid1 sda2[0] 292800576 blocks [2/1] [U_] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] 248896 blocks [2/1] [U_] unused devices: root at xxx:~# mdadm -Ebsc partitions ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=9fcf243c:30c2ce54:c74d1712:d475f80e ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=86da249a:2ebb925b:0385cfa1:3db65b97 root at xxx:~# mdadm --detail /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Wed Jun 7 14:54:31 2006 Raid Level : raid1 Array Size : 248896 (243.10 MiB 254.87 MB) Device Size : 248896 (243.10 MiB 254.87 MB) Raid Devices : 2 Total Devices : 1 Preferred Minor : 0 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Mon Nov 27 06:27:05 2006 State : clean, degraded Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 1 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 UUID : 86da249a:2ebb925b:0385cfa1:3db65b97 Events : 0.749 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 8 1 0 active sync /dev/sda1 1 0 0 - removed root at xxx:~# mdadm --detail /dev/md1 /dev/md1: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Wed Jun 7 14:54:40 2006 Raid Level : raid1 Array Size : 292800576 (279.24 GiB 299.83 GB) Device Size : 292800576 (279.24 GiB 299.83 GB) Raid Devices : 2 Total Devices : 1 Preferred Minor : 1 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Mon Nov 27 12:07:51 2006 State : clean, degraded Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 1 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 UUID : 9fcf243c:30c2ce54:c74d1712:d475f80e Events : 0.3079132 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 8 2 0 active sync /dev/sda2 1 0 0 - removed Thank you in advance for you help, Vincent From brad at bkjohnson.com Fri Dec 15 10:41:40 2006 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:41:40 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> Message-ID: <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> > > Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM > > HDD. > > Not to intrude here, however battery life and heat are two major > reasons for staying away from 7200rpm drives in laptops... > You bring up a good point. There will be more heat from a 7200RPM drive. If your laptop is badly built and has just enough cooling power and battery life to handle it's stock equipment, you may have troubles. On the other hand. Some laptops can handle a 7200RPM drive just fine. My IBM T42 Laptop has a 1.7GHZ processor, 15" screen, 7200RPM HDD (stock), 1GB RAM and my battery life is over 2 hours. My HDD temp is 33 C which is below body temperature and sensors-applet shows the cooling fans even turn off at times. The result is a laptop that feels like a desktop. At work I have a Dell laptop with a 2Ghz processor, 512MB RAM and a 5400RPM HDD. The IBM walks all over the Dell simply because of HDD speed. Brad From brad at bkjohnson.com Fri Dec 15 10:46:10 2006 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:46:10 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <45824C5D.4020504@welcomes-you.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <45824C5D.4020504@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <1166179570.4804.48.camel@t42> Not to be argumentative, you could be correct, but once the laptop is loaded and he can view system monitor, many processes have loaded and already gone to sleep (therefore freeing up RAM). It will be when those processes are loading or are being used that will put his memory usage over the 256MB and cause the use of swap. On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 08:18 +0100, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Brad Johnson wrote: > > > Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM > > HDD. > > Because it runs hotter and is more noisy than a 5400 or even 4200rpm drive? > > Also, a 7200rpm model consumes about twice the wattage than a 4200 or a > good 5400rpm model, e.g. look through the hitachigst.com pages. > > Back to OP: > > Even if the swap is used, he writes that only 145 of his 256 MB of RAM > are used. I guess that the system pushed something unused into swap to > have more room for buffer caches and the like. > > It would be interesting to see what services are running, thus: > > Can you please provide us with the output of > > ps aux > > then we might see, if there really is a resource bottleneck lurking around. > > Cheers > > Carsten > From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Fri Dec 15 10:56:49 2006 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:56:49 -0500 Subject: ubuntu 6.10 amd64 Edgy on HP nx6325 dual core AMD64 X2 laptop In-Reply-To: References: <2cfc2c9f0612142314o299ead00wbf71516648a82ac9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061215055649.176373ef@chisel> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:24:52 +0000 primorec wrote: > On 12/15/06, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > > > > On 12/15/06, primorec wrote: > > > How can I check if both cores are utilized (enabled , used) ? > > > > /proc/cpuinfo is already telling you. > > > yes I see but why I do not see 2 CPUs (cores) in the output of > the 'top' command ? Because top isn't configured to display them. Load top and hit 'h' for to see the big picture, or save time and hit '1' (the number). FWIW, 'W' (case sensitive) saves your configuration. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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P.S.: cross-posting to Kubuntu-users On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Am running Kubuntu dapper and have just gone to use update-manager to get > the latest updates but it tells me that that they're not authenticated. > > A little worrying as there are linux-headers in there!! > > -Ants From linux_milano at yahoo.it Fri Dec 15 11:16:50 2006 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:16:50 +0100 Subject: not enough space for upgrading Message-ID: Hi all, I would like to upgrade the linux-image-2.6.17-generic but installation fails due to 'no space on device'. Probably it is because of the large amount of space required in the /lib My root has is only 150 MB and only 44 MB are available. The /lib/modules alone, containing only the 2.6.17-10-generic/ directory, takes about 56 MB. Any hints? Thank you for your help -- Pol From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 11:17:20 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:17:20 -0200 Subject: laptop HP nx6325 amd64 x2 automatix2 media codecs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612150317r2e664f28q3f917da32bc7797e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, primorec wrote: > P.S: could it be that 32-bit MS codecs (wma, wmv) do not run on 64-bit > machine ? The MPEG codec works OK Very likely. From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 11:26:07 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:26:07 -0200 Subject: not enough space for upgrading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4413284c0612150326g68030309yf5c1a613709e3375@mail.gmail.com> Your root is 150 MB??? Never mind, I'll try to help anyway. Save the debian package for the linux image (you can find it in /var/cache/apt/archives) somewhere else, then rm *.deb in there to make sure all packages are removed. That might make enough space. Put the package back in place, and try again updating. Otherwise you'll have to move things to a USB key temporarily or mount an NFS share from somewhere for that (I am assuming you're running ubuntu-server and are therefore not a complete newbie). Hervé. On 12/15/06, pol wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to upgrade the linux-image-2.6.17-generic but installation > fails due to 'no space on device'. > Probably it is because of the large amount of space required in the /lib > My root has is only 150 MB and only 44 MB are available. > The /lib/modules alone, containing only the 2.6.17-10-generic/ directory, > takes about 56 MB. > > Any hints? > > Thank you for your help > > -- > Pol > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 11:27:47 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:27:47 -0200 Subject: rsync mirrors for ubuntu updates In-Reply-To: <458222B0.4000205@kiwiplan.co.nz> References: <458222B0.4000205@kiwiplan.co.nz> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150327y66ddae84la797a1efcc952195@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Ian Collins wrote: > Is it possible to rsync the Ubuntu updates to a local server (to save > bandwidth for multiple machines). It is also possible to use apt proxies to save bandwidth. I personally use apt-cacher for that. Hervé. From michaelpo at myjaring.net Fri Dec 15 11:29:58 2006 From: michaelpo at myjaring.net (michaelpo at myjaring.net) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:29:58 +0800 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> Message-ID: <45828736.8030308@myjaring.net> how do you tell the temperature or: cpu harddisk ram etc etc Brad Johnson wrote: >>> Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM >>> HDD. >> Not to intrude here, however battery life and heat are two major >> reasons for staying away from 7200rpm drives in laptops... >> > > You bring up a good point. There will be more heat from a 7200RPM drive. > If your laptop is badly built and has just enough cooling power and > battery life to handle it's stock equipment, you may have troubles. > > On the other hand. Some laptops can handle a 7200RPM drive just fine. My > IBM T42 Laptop has a 1.7GHZ processor, 15" screen, 7200RPM HDD (stock), > 1GB RAM and my battery life is over 2 hours. My HDD temp is 33 C which > is below body temperature and sensors-applet shows the cooling fans even > turn off at times. > > The result is a laptop that feels like a desktop. At work I have a Dell > laptop with a 2Ghz processor, 512MB RAM and a 5400RPM HDD. The IBM walks > all over the Dell simply because of HDD speed. > > Brad > > From dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Fri Dec 15 11:36:30 2006 From: dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0000 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <45824C5D.4020504@welcomes-you.com> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <45824C5D.4020504@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <458288BE.3050508@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Even if the swap is used, he writes that only 145 of his 256 MB of RAM > are used. I guess that the system pushed something unused into swap to > have more room for buffer caches and the like. Nobody has mentioned video memory. Does this laptop use shared video memory? And if so, how much? It could be that 'only' 145 is already bigger than 256. Cheers, Dave From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 15 11:48:14 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:48:14 +0000 Subject: network printer Message-ID: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> Recently I had excellent tuition on how to set up a network printer by editing /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf. Two days ago I changed from 6.06.1 to 6.10 so, I assumed no problem. To my chagrin I find that there is no folder called ports.conf. I don't want to risk messing up my machine so advice again please. Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. I anxiously await your advice. Norman From dave at restall.net Fri Dec 15 11:51:22 2006 From: dave at restall.net (David Restall - System Administrator) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:51:22 +0000 Subject: not enough space for upgrading Message-ID: Hi Pol, > I would like to upgrade the linux-image-2.6.17-generic but installation > fails due to 'no space on device'. > Probably it is because of the large amount of space required in the /lib > My root has is only 150 MB and only 44 MB are available. > The /lib/modules alone, containing only the 2.6.17-10-generic/ directory, > takes about 56 MB. > > Any hints? > > Thank you for your help Long gone are the days when we could install GNU/Linux on a 512MB HDD and just use a massive 32MB for the root partition :-( I fell into the same trap when I first installed Ubuntu and ran short of disk space. How I solved the problem was to create a directory on another partition e.g. /home/2.6.17-10-generic then create a symlink to that from /lib, e.g. :- ln -s /home/2.6.17-10-generic /lib/2.6.17-10-generic then install your kernel. Once that is done, do a du -h /home/2.6.17-10-generic and if it uses less space than what is available on your / partition, remove the sym link and then :- mv /home/2.6.17-10-generic /lib if there is not enough space, clear some space out. I had a few older kernel packages on the disk that I never used so I deleted them and there was enough. TTFN D ubuntu/users-2006-12-15.tx linux_milano at yahoo.it ubuntu-users +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4 FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4 FCU | | email : dave at restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MS-DOS must die! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 15 12:09:15 2006 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612150304x68a05194r43c55a33db740e02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <191339.38781.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. just a thought!! Hervé Fache wrote: update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu system. I suggest the following instead: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade I have seen my computers telling me my packages were not authenticated before, and it was always due to a problem when running apt-get update, so I suggest you run it again in a terminal, and the problem either will go, or will appear very clearly. Hervé. P.S.: cross-posting to Kubuntu-users On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Am running Kubuntu dapper and have just gone to use update-manager to get > the latest updates but it tells me that that they're not authenticated. > > A little worrying as there are linux-headers in there!! > > -Ants -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! 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Yes, for that same reason. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 12:24:21 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:24:21 -0200 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <191339.38781.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <4413284c0612150304x68a05194r43c55a33db740e02@mail.gmail.com> <191339.38781.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150424l538663c0vdb4f53798a44c1a3@mail.gmail.com> There will be soon. Update-manager works for Ubuntu, should work for Xubuntu in Feisty (there was a little issue for Edgy), and Kubuntu should get something similar too, but I don't know what or when. Hervé. On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager > and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. > Hervé Fache wrote: > update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu > system. I suggest the following instead: > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade From elitepenguin at gmx.net Fri Dec 15 12:25:36 2006 From: elitepenguin at gmx.net (Nils) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100 Subject: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs Message-ID: <2f30da460612150425o3ea99966s341fbb07344313b1@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I reboot or shut it down. To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system. I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?) I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug. Thanks for advices! Nils From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Dec 15 12:25:36 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166185536.4956.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> > > I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. > > df -h > shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and what > percentage of that space is in use. > I tried this cammand but I get this result trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% / varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm lrm 506M 18M 489M 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10 From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 12:33:33 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:33:33 -0200 Subject: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs In-Reply-To: <2f30da460612150425o3ea99966s341fbb07344313b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f30da460612150425o3ea99966s341fbb07344313b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150433s54e36481t29b415b34c47c761@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Nils wrote: > Hi all, Hi Nils! > Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I > reboot or shut it down. Ooops! > To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is > mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the > system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but > I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system. You can still create a System V type script in /etc/init.d, and create the required links in /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d. > I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted > with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?) Yup. > I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs -> Report a Bug (top left) Thanks! Hervé. From stude.list at googlemail.com Fri Dec 15 12:59:50 2006 From: stude.list at googlemail.com (Andy) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:59:50 +0000 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> On 15/12/06, David Armour wrote: > I'm reminding myself of the engineer Dilbert was testing who answered "all of > them!" when asked how many of the pens in his pocket protector he needed: most > of the files I'm using, I'm using weekly. But I like the idea of periodically > moving most of 'em to cd. I just found a mildly useful command, based on the Debian popularity-contest: popcon-largest-unused Apparently my largest unused is tetex-base, however I will actually start using that at some point. It also suggests I get rid of the kernel headers (I need them to compile my WiFi if I ever need to plug that back in). I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for this? Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point? - Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 15 13:01:26 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:01:26 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <45828736.8030308@myjaring.net> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> <45828736.8030308@myjaring.net> Message-ID: <45829CA6.1080506@welcomes-you.com> michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > how do you tell the temperature or: > cpu > harddisk > ram cpu (and some RAM modules): lm-sensors (but be careful on IBM laptops) harddisk: smartmontools HTH Carsten From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 15 13:12:31 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:12:31 +0100 Subject: network printer References: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> Message-ID: norman wrote: > Recently I had excellent tuition on how to set up a network printer by > editing /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf. Two days ago I changed from 6.06.1 > to 6.10 so, I assumed no problem. To my chagrin I find that there is no > folder called ports.conf. I don't want to risk messing up my machine so > advice again please. > > Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with > Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with > sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. > > I anxiously await your advice. > > Norman Hi, what about trying http://localhost:631 and install the network printer from there? Kind regards Eberhard From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 13:18:22 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:18:22 -0200 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150518v558e0aecla9fc2bc0aaca004@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Andy wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go > about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old > Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking > more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for > this? I use the GUI, search for linux-image, find all versions installed (like 2.6.17-10), then search for the version number. I then remove all kernel-related packages for that version, keeping only the current one. > Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point? There was indeed. Don't know what happened to this project though... Hervé. From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 15 13:40:27 2006 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:40:27 +0100 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: <1166185536.4956.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: Trevor Nye wrote: > >> >> I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. >> >> df -h >> shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and >> what percentage of that space is in use. >> > I tried this cammand but I get this result > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% / > varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run > varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock > procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb > udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev > devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm > lrm 506M 18M 489M > 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ > But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10 hmmm, so that means that you are running out of space in / ;-) Now use Clives command to identify the most critical space hogs and proceed from there. After you will be "clean" again, you might consider to use separate partitions for anything that is eating up your space. Doing this, you keep a workable computer, even if your space eating daemons will render their separate partition to be out of space. Imho, it usually is a good idea to have /home on a separate partition, Depending on what you do, /var (and many more) could also make sense. Btw. having you /home on a separate partition also will make any distribution reinstall or upgrade nearly trivial. Kind regards Eberhard From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 15 14:42:37 2006 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:42:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612150416w1151cd0j3c28c917b1d512a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <105751.76341.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> eh?! Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager > and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. > > just a thought!! Why isn't there a single Ubuntu distro at all? After all, we all know I'm right, and what I like or use is the best thing. Isn't it? Yes, for that same reason. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I agree, it would be nice to have a single tool, which just uses the toolkit/decorations you favour and have still the same functionailty under the hood, heck even the name could be the same. Well, at least sometimes. Cheers Carsten From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 14:54:39 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:54:39 +0100 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <4582B5DD.7010504@welcomes-you.com> References: <105751.76341.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4582B5DD.7010504@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150654i79d33a57x190f6ca344546443@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Do you see that there is choice, and therefore requiring everyone to use > the same is IMHO a bad thing? I agree, it would be nice to have a single > tool, which just uses the toolkit/decorations you favour and have still > the same functionailty under the hood, heck even the name could be the > same. Well, at least sometimes. I think there is. It's called "apt-get". Or "dpkg", if it strikes your fancy. Same interface across the board, fast, versatile, same names on Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu proper. Hey, even Debian uses it! Must be fairly good then... :) -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 15 15:04:58 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:04:58 +0000 Subject: network printer In-Reply-To: References: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166195098.5155.104.camel@localhost> < snip > > Hi, > what about trying http://localhost:631 and install the network printer from > there? The problem is not installing the printer, that has been done. It is to enable the printer to be contacted from another, remote machine via a wireless connection. Norman From matt.price at utoronto.ca Fri Dec 15 15:30:16 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:30:16 -0500 Subject: feisty: acx100: "no wireless extensions" error Message-ID: <1166196616.19592.74.camel@localhost> -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: matt.price at utoronto.ca To: acx100-users at lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject: "no wireless extensions" error Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:16:02 -0500 hi on a fresh install of ubuntu feisty, kernel 2.6.19, recent acx100 (not sure of the version -- it's the one in the current linux-restricted-modules p[ackage on ubuntu), my dwl-650+ no longer works right. I followed some web instructions about resetting the firmware version, after which I was able to load the acx module successfully, but when I try to bring up the interface thus: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wireless_mode managed wireless_essid essid I get an error: error for wireless request: Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0; operation not supported. iwconfig shows :no wireless extensiions for wlan0. this card worked fine under dapper. I don't know enough about this to diagnose further. any hints? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The same engine should be used by all *ubuntu distros and by all means have a different gui for whatever DM you use. As Monty Python would say ........... you're all individuals ......... but I'm not. Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: On 12/15/06, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Do you see that there is choice, and therefore requiring everyone to use > the same is IMHO a bad thing? I agree, it would be nice to have a single > tool, which just uses the toolkit/decorations you favour and have still > the same functionailty under the hood, heck even the name could be the > same. Well, at least sometimes. I think there is. It's called "apt-get". Or "dpkg", if it strikes your fancy. Same interface across the board, fast, versatile, same names on Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu proper. Hey, even Debian uses it! Must be fairly good then... :) -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Fri Dec 15 15:38:22 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:38:22 +0100 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: References: <1166185536.4956.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: <1166197102.5061.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Thanks for the advice. have a good weekend > hmmm, so that means that you are running out of space in / ;-) > > Now use Clives command to identify the most critical space hogs and proceed > from there. > > After you will be "clean" again, you might consider to use separate > partitions for anything that is eating up your space. Doing this, you keep > a workable computer, even if your space eating daemons will render their > separate partition to be out of space. > > Imho, it usually is a good idea to have /home on a separate partition, > Depending on what you do, /var (and many more) could also make sense. > > Btw. having you /home on a separate partition also will make any > distribution reinstall or upgrade nearly trivial. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > From philsf at ufrj.br Fri Dec 15 15:45:10 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:45:10 -0200 Subject: DegradedArray event (RAID-1, LVM, Ubuntu 6.06 Server) In-Reply-To: <16168e530612150239m6a92c0bby9a05ca66528565bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <16168e530612150239m6a92c0bby9a05ca66528565bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612151345.10189.philsf@ufrj.br> Hello, Em Friday 15 December 2006 08:39, V D escreveu: > Hi, > > First of all sorry but I'm definitely not an expert. > > I received two mail alerts at the same time but I don't know how to fix that. > DegradedArray event on /dev/md0:xxx > DegradedArray event on /dev/md1:xxx > > I have two identical discs in RAID-1 (with LVM, configured during the > installation of an Ubuntu 6.06 Server Edition). > > Should I first try to "recover from a multiple disk failure" using > "mdadm --assemble --force", as explained at > http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-8.html ? > Is there a problem if I don't have a file /etc/raidtab? First of all, try to hot add the missing partitions to respective md devices. Wait for them to sync before anything else (you can watch the file /proc/mdstat to be sure). After sync is done, you should be fine. I would suggest a reboot to see if it comes degraded or not. Do you know what caused the degrade? Was it online, or after a boot? If it was after boot, did you get any relevant messages (check kern.log.* or dmesg if still available). regards FF From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:49:26 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:49:26 +0100 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <605866.94578.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612150654i79d33a57x190f6ca344546443@mail.gmail.com> <605866.94578.qm@web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150749q3f0d446ew9366bc0e51fff76@mail.gmail.com> (Aside: you keep on top-posting. Kindly, stop). On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > I understand what both of you are saying but you're missing the point that > I'm trying to make. > > I personally use the command line so this discussion doesn't bother me > ............ but not everyone does. > > My main point is, why does update-manager tell me things that adpet doesn't. update-manager tells you different things because it's not the same program. > whatever distro you use, the info it tells us should be the same. So, if I This is a nice joke to tell at parties, thanks for it. Yes, in an ideal world, KDE, GNOME and other programs _should_ give you the same information. However, implementation details aren't ideal, and sometimes don't. > use update-manager on kubuntu, it shouldn't be telling me that linux-headers > are unauthenticated. The same engine should be used by all *ubuntu distros > and by all means have a different gui for whatever DM you use. The same engine _is_ used by all 'buntus: apt-get. The "unauthenticated repositories" doesn't appear because it's created by the GUI, it's something apt-get passes to the GUI, unless they've managed to seriously fsck up things in Kubuntu (don't use it, can't tell) and implement YAPM. I doubt it, since AdePT rings a faint "apt" bell. That the GUI decides whether to tell you or not is quite another thing. Are you sure it's the linux-headers package that's not authenticated, and not some other repository there? Because I'd bet it's some different repo that's showing there, and that you don't have in Ubuntu. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:52:44 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:52:44 +0100 Subject: feisty: acx100: "no wireless extensions" error In-Reply-To: <1166196616.19592.74.camel@localhost> References: <1166196616.19592.74.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150752q1d538606q19beb8e0badeaf9@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Matt Price wrote: > hi > on a fresh install of ubuntu feisty, kernel 2.6.19, recent acx100 [...] > I don't know enough about this to diagnose further. any hints? > Posting a bug in Launchpad, or chatting in #ubuntu+1 (irc.freenode.org) about it? -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:53:30 2006 From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:53:30 -0500 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? In-Reply-To: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> References: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <351278b80612150753u3f6b4048mc79dc8f3ffdfe826@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Andy wrote: > On 15/12/06, David Armour wrote: > > I'm reminding myself of the engineer Dilbert was testing who answered "all of > > them!" when asked how many of the pens in his pocket protector he needed: most > > of the files I'm using, I'm using weekly. But I like the idea of periodically > > moving most of 'em to cd. > I just found a mildly useful command, based on the Debian popularity-contest: > popcon-largest-unused > > Apparently my largest unused is tetex-base, however I will actually > start using that at some point. > It also suggests I get rid of the kernel headers (I need them to > compile my WiFi if I ever need to plug that back in). > > I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go > about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old > Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking > more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for > this? > > Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point? I just did a fresh install last night; there's an app called "Disk Usage Analyzer" under the Accessories menu that may be of help to see where the actual disk usage is. On my system, the copy of my digital photo library is the single largest user of space, though the individual files are at most a couple of megabytes each. If you don't mind expending the extra 65Mb on KDE support libraries, filelight has nice interface to browse through your filesystem. Considering that filelight helped me find a couple gigabytes of stuff I didn't need, the 65Mb was well spent for me. From barros001 at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 16:00:59 2006 From: barros001 at gmail.com (Carlos Barros) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:00:59 -0200 Subject: USB Wireless and Pen-drive conflict Message-ID: <64bb86df0612150800r3a32625dmffe463f795668e43@mail.gmail.com> Hi all! I'm having a very strange problem with my usb wireless and my pendrive! The scenario is this: I have a USB Wireless adapter (D-Link) running with ndiswrapper driver. When I boot, it automaticaly connect to my router and I starting surfing the internet. Then, when I put my pendrive (sometimes the problem happens when I pull it out), my wireless adapter just hangs, and I get messages from ndiswrapper driver in the dmesg output (sorry, I cannot reproduce it here @ work). I have to remove and put again the wireless adapter to get it working again. Probably this is caused by hotplug (or something like this) probing for devices. Anyone experienced it?? Any workaround this?? regards Carlos Barros -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 15 16:03:06 2006 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:03:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612150749q3f0d446ew9366bc0e51fff76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> this is my last top post on the subject. (never been asked to stop that b4 but whatever) if ubuntu could come up with a common update / package manager that behaves the same on all distos ... kudos. I'd use it ........ you don't have to. sorry if i've upset anyone with this post and, just an aside, i doubt if i'll be going to any parties where we stand around talking/joking about the diff between pkg managers on ubuntu. Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: (Aside: you keep on top-posting. Kindly, stop). On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > I understand what both of you are saying but you're missing the point that > I'm trying to make. > > I personally use the command line so this discussion doesn't bother me > ............ but not everyone does. > > My main point is, why does update-manager tell me things that adpet doesn't. update-manager tells you different things because it's not the same program. > whatever distro you use, the info it tells us should be the same. So, if I This is a nice joke to tell at parties, thanks for it. Yes, in an ideal world, KDE, GNOME and other programs _should_ give you the same information. However, implementation details aren't ideal, and sometimes don't. > use update-manager on kubuntu, it shouldn't be telling me that linux-headers > are unauthenticated. The same engine should be used by all *ubuntu distros > and by all means have a different gui for whatever DM you use. The same engine _is_ used by all 'buntus: apt-get. The "unauthenticated repositories" doesn't appear because it's created by the GUI, it's something apt-get passes to the GUI, unless they've managed to seriously fsck up things in Kubuntu (don't use it, can't tell) and implement YAPM. I doubt it, since AdePT rings a faint "apt" bell. That the GUI decides whether to tell you or not is quite another thing. Are you sure it's the linux-headers package that's not authenticated, and not some other repository there? Because I'd bet it's some different repo that's showing there, and that you don't have in Ubuntu. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob58523 at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 16:07:48 2006 From: bob58523 at gmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:07:48 +0200 Subject: new to the list Message-ID: <4582C854.60807@gmail.com> Hi All, I'm new to the list, and new to ubuntu. I have used linux in the past, but never this flavor until now, andI really do like it. But I have one question, I am running ver 6.10 and when I try to browse my windows network I get this error on every computer in the network when I try to access them: "The filename "CAROLINES" indicates that this file is of type "desktop configuration file". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "x-directory/smb-share". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system. Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "x-directory/smb-share", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file." So what can I do to get rid of this message and access my network computers. Thanks in advance, Bob From moranar at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 16:12:02 2006 From: moranar at gmail.com (Adriano Varoli Piazza) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:12:02 +0100 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612150749q3f0d446ew9366bc0e51fff76@mail.gmail.com> <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150812i5d3eb8f5l45ae98218b127aa4@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > this is my last top post on the subject. (never been asked to stop that b4 > but whatever) There's a first time for everything. > > if ubuntu could come up with a common update / package manager that behaves > the same on all distos ... kudos. I'd use it ........ you don't have to. It's there: apt-get. or smart, perhaps. I'm not joking. Oh, you want a similar _GUI_, that does TheRightThing(TM)? That's something else. > > sorry if i've upset anyone with this post and, just an aside, i doubt if If/When I'm offended or upset by your posts, I'll let you know. As for others, I can't answer for them, obviously. > i'll be going to any parties where we stand around talking/joking about the > diff between pkg managers on ubuntu. I wish I understood what this mailing list has to do with that, but I don't. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 16:34:59 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:34:59 -0200 Subject: USB Wireless and Pen-drive conflict In-Reply-To: <64bb86df0612150800r3a32625dmffe463f795668e43@mail.gmail.com> References: <64bb86df0612150800r3a32625dmffe463f795668e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150834s501e0aa8nfa63c2b1b115effb@mail.gmail.com> Maybe you could look at /var/log/messages when you plug in the pendrive? Hint: in a console, type tail -f /var/log/messages, then plug in the thingy Hervé. On 12/15/06, Carlos Barros wrote: > Hi all! > I'm having a very strange problem with my usb wireless and my pendrive! > The scenario is this: > > I have a USB Wireless adapter (D-Link) running with ndiswrapper driver. > When I boot, it automaticaly connect to my router and I starting > surfing the internet. Then, when I put my pendrive (sometimes the > problem happens when I pull it out), my wireless adapter > just hangs, and I get messages from ndiswrapper driver in the > dmesg output (sorry, I cannot reproduce it here @ work). I have to > remove and put again the wireless adapter to get it working > again. Probably this is caused by hotplug (or something like this) > probing for devices. > Anyone experienced it?? Any workaround this?? > > regards > > Carlos Barros > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From diesch at spamfence.net Fri Dec 15 01:14:48 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:14:48 +0100 Subject: How do I restart DHCP discovery from GUI ( ubuntu 6.10) In-Reply-To: (primorec's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:07:33 -0800") References: <457D2451.8080205@fahrlander.net> <1165835161.5470.18.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <874pry2c53.fsf@spamfence.net> primorec wrote: > On 12/11/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 01:55 -0800, primorec wrote: > > Yes, I found this ... but ALL I can do there is to check/modify > > different properties (DNS, name, DHCP/static ... etc). I do not > > > [snip] [snip] > > > If you are running Dapper then to the right of the listed network > adaptors should be an activate/deactivate button. In Edgy this was > changed; now you you will find a little tick-box to the left of each > network device listed. Ticking this box or unchecking it will > activate/deactivate that particular network device. > > > Yes that was it... thanks... This is __not__ the most intuitive solution. > Activate/deactivate button is a lot better solution. Oooh... well... It is > not easy to teach an old dog new tricks. Create a button or menu entry that executes "gksudo ifup eth0" "gksudo ifdown eth0" ( or whatever network device you need). Florian -- From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 15 17:02:21 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:02:21 +0000 Subject: network printer In-Reply-To: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> References: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166202141.4903.10.camel@localhost> < snip > > Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with > Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with > sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. I have sorted it out so your help is not required thanks. Norman From karistouf at yahoo.fr Fri Dec 15 17:03:06 2006 From: karistouf at yahoo.fr (christoph guillermet) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:03:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: USB Wireless and Pen-drive conflict In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612150834s501e0aa8nfa63c2b1b115effb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <249835.36443.qm@web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> hello, i m submerged by your mails, and i m not on ubuntu mailing list... could you do something, please, merci ! >> site internet schwartzpeter: http://karistouf.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 17:15:00 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:15:00 +0100 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4582D814.3070507@gmail.com> Anthony Gardner wrote: > this is my last top post on the subject. (never been asked to stop > that b4 but whatever) > > if ubuntu could come up with a common update / package manager that > behaves the same on all distos ... kudos. I'd use it ........ you > don't have to. > > sorry if i've upset anyone with this post and, just an aside, i doubt > if i'll be going to any parties where we stand around talking/joking > about the diff between pkg managers on ubuntu. > > > */Adriano Varoli Piazza /* wrote: > > (Aside: you keep on top-posting. Kindly, stop). > > On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > > I understand what both of you are saying but you're missing the > point that > > I'm trying to make. > > > > I personally use the command line so this discussion doesn't > bother me > > ............ but not everyone does. > > > > My main point is, why does update-manager tell me things that > adpet doesn't. > > update-manager tells you different things because it's not the > same program. > > > whatever distro you use, the info it tells us should be the > same. So, if I > > This is a nice joke to tell at parties, thanks for it. Yes, in an > ideal world, KDE, GNOME and other programs _should_ give you the same > information. However, implementation details aren't ideal, and > sometimes don't. > > > use update-manager on kubuntu, it shouldn't be telling me that > linux-headers > > are unauthenticated. The same engine should be used by all > *ubuntu distros > > and by all means have a different gui for whatever DM you use. > > The same engine _is_ used by all 'buntus: apt-get. The > "unauthenticated repositories" doesn't appear because it's created by > the GUI, it's something apt-get passes to the GUI, unless they've > managed to seriously fsck up things in Kubuntu (don't use it, can't > tell) and implement YAPM. I doubt it, since AdePT rings a faint "apt" > bell. That the GUI decides whether to tell you or not is quite another > thing. > > Are you sure it's the linux-headers package that's not authenticated, > and not some other repository there? Because I'd bet it's some > different repo that's showing there, and that you don't have in > Ubuntu. > > -- > Adriano Varoli Piazza > The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar > MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com > ICQ: 4410132 > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All new Yahoo! Mail > > "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - > PC Magazine I think this is pretty simple as well: the information you get about upgrades shouldnt be dependant on weather there is a 'K' in front of Ubuntu or not. Its diffrent flavours of the same distro, and requesting they provide the same functionality in this isnt that far fetched. Ive not used Kubuntu in a long while (since Hoary) so I cant say how updating is handled these days, but perhaps a bugreport might be the thing to do. Will you submit one, Anthony? /Björn Ottervik From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 17:39:40 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:39:40 -0200 Subject: Latest Updates In-Reply-To: <4582D814.3070507@gmail.com> References: <98565.13589.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4582D814.3070507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150939i3eeb9bfu9f494b2ee41185e3@mail.gmail.com> update-manager is going to become _the_ tool for all flavours, it is just taking a bit of time. HTH, Hervé. On 12/15/06, Bjoern Ottervik wrote: > I think this is pretty simple as well: the information you get about > upgrades shouldnt be dependant on weather there is a 'K' in front of > Ubuntu or not. Its diffrent flavours of the same distro, and requesting > they provide the same functionality in this isnt that far fetched. > Ive not used Kubuntu in a long while (since Hoary) so I cant say how > updating is handled these days, but perhaps a bugreport might be the > thing to do. Will you submit one, Anthony? From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 17:40:30 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:40:30 -0200 Subject: network printer In-Reply-To: <1166202141.4903.10.camel@localhost> References: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> <1166202141.4903.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150940rd3103f2g14ccac45ad0f7ad8@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, norman wrote: > < snip > > > Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with > > Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with > > sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. > > I have sorted it out so your help is not required thanks. But your solution would be welcome! How did you do it? Hervé. From Herve at lucidia.net Fri Dec 15 17:43:28 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:43:28 -0200 Subject: USB Wireless and Pen-drive conflict In-Reply-To: <249835.36443.qm@web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <4413284c0612150834s501e0aa8nfa63c2b1b115effb@mail.gmail.com> <249835.36443.qm@web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612150943g7da67d30kafa212bfaeeb067f@mail.gmail.com> How did you send this e-mail then??? It's sent to the list, which AFAIK is a subscriber-only list! You can unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Hervé. On 12/15/06, christoph guillermet wrote: > hello, i m submerged by your mails, and i m not on ubuntu mailing list... > could you do something, please, merci ! From norman at littletank.org Fri Dec 15 17:53:24 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:53:24 +0000 Subject: network printer In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612150940rd3103f2g14ccac45ad0f7ad8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1166183294.5155.101.camel@localhost> <1166202141.4903.10.camel@localhost> <4413284c0612150940rd3103f2g14ccac45ad0f7ad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166205204.4903.23.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 15:40 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote: > On 12/15/06, norman wrote: > > < snip > > > > Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with > > > Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with > > > sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. > > > > I have sorted it out so your help is not required thanks. > > But your solution would be welcome! > How did you do it? I opened my eyes and saw that the file 'ports.conf' was in the cups folder. So I modified the file in sudo gedit by # Listen localhost:631 followed by Listen *:631 and saved the file. then sudo (if needed) /etc/init.d/cupsys restart. The windows printer that I had previously set up was then able to print via the wireless network. I hope that was helpful. Norman From ex_skul_nerd at yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 13:55:30 2006 From: ex_skul_nerd at yahoo.com (Ralph O.) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:55:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 117 (System info. ram, hardisk...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <345144.23596.qm@web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Carsten! To get information about your computer. I'l advise you to run windows,& open the help & support cenre, type memory in the search box 'n' click get information about my computer. There, you'll find the ram, hardisk hdd space 'n' all that. If this is not what you're looking for, hit me back 'n' be more elaborate & specific and I'll advise you. ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Latest Updates (Anthony Gardner) 2. Re: Latest Updates (Adriano Varoli Piazza) 3. Re: Latest Updates ( Herv? Fache ) 4. Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs (Nils) 5. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Trevor Nye) 6. Re: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs ( Herv? Fache ) 7. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Andy) 8. Re: Old pc faster than ecent (Carsten Aulbert) 9. Re: network printer (Eberhard Roloff) 10. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? ( Herv? Fache ) 11. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Eberhard Roloff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:09:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Gardner Subject: Re: Latest Updates To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <191339.38781.qm at web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. just a thought!! Herv? Fache wrote: update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu system. I suggest the following instead: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade I have seen my computers telling me my packages were not authenticated before, and it was always due to a problem when running apt-get update, so I suggest you run it again in a terminal, and the problem either will go, or will appear very clearly. Herv?. P.S.: cross-posting to Kubuntu-users On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Am running Kubuntu dapper and have just gone to use update-manager to get > the latest updates but it tells me that that they're not authenticated. > > A little worrying as there are linux-headers in there!! > > -Ants -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20061215/b77b165d/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:16:43 +0100 From: "Adriano Varoli Piazza" Subject: Re: Latest Updates To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <2cfc2c9f0612150416w1151cd0j3c28c917b1d512a6 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager > and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. > > just a thought!! Why isn't there a single Ubuntu distro at all? After all, we all know I'm right, and what I like or use is the best thing. Isn't it? Yes, for that same reason. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com ICQ: 4410132 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:24:21 -0200 From: " Herv? Fache " Subject: Re: Latest Updates To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Message-ID: <4413284c0612150424l538663c0vdb4f53798a44c1a3 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed There will be soon. Update-manager works for Ubuntu, should work for Xubuntu in Feisty (there was a little issue for Edgy), and Kubuntu should get something similar too, but I don't know what or when. Herv?. On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote: > yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager > and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros. > Herv? Fache wrote: > update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu > system. I suggest the following instead: > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100 From: Nils Subject: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <2f30da460612150425o3ea99966s341fbb07344313b1 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I reboot or shut it down. To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system. I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?) I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug. Thanks for advices! Nils ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100 From: Trevor Nye Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet? To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <1166185536.4956.3.camel at Ubuntu-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain > > I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. > > df -h > shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and what > percentage of that space is in use. > I tried this cammand but I get this result trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% / varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm lrm 506M 18M 489M 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:33:33 -0200 From: " Herv? Fache " Subject: Re: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with cifs To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <4413284c0612150433s54e36481t29b415b34c47c761 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/15/06, Nils wrote: > Hi all, Hi Nils! > Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I > reboot or shut it down. Ooops! > To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is > mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the > system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but > I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system. You can still create a System V type script in /etc/init.d, and create the required links in /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d. > I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted > with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?) Yup. > I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs -> Report a Bug (top left) Thanks! Herv?. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:59:50 +0000 From: Andy Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet? To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 15/12/06, David Armour wrote: > I'm reminding myself of the engineer Dilbert was testing who answered "all of > them!" when asked how many of the pens in his pocket protector he needed: most > of the files I'm using, I'm using weekly. But I like the idea of periodically > moving most of 'em to cd. I just found a mildly useful command, based on the Debian popularity-contest: popcon-largest-unused Apparently my largest unused is tetex-base, however I will actually start using that at some point. It also suggests I get rid of the kernel headers (I need them to compile my WiFi if I ever need to plug that back in). I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for this? Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point? - Andy -- Did you think it should be legal to rip a CD to your PC or MP3 player? Change the law, sign the petition http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/privatecopy/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:01:26 +0100 From: Carsten Aulbert Subject: Re: Old pc faster than ecent To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <45829CA6.1080506 at welcomes-you.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote: > how do you tell the temperature or: > cpu > harddisk > ram cpu (and some RAM modules): lm-sensors (but be careful on IBM laptops) harddisk: smartmontools HTH Carsten ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:12:31 +0100 From: Eberhard Roloff Subject: Re: network printer To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii norman wrote: > Recently I had excellent tuition on how to set up a network printer by > editing /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf. Two days ago I changed from 6.06.1 > to 6.10 so, I assumed no problem. To my chagrin I find that there is no > folder called ports.conf. I don't want to risk messing up my machine so > advice again please. > > Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with > Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with > sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys. > > I anxiously await your advice. > > Norman Hi, what about trying http://localhost:631 and install the network printer from there? Kind regards Eberhard ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:18:22 -0200 From: " Herv? Fache " Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet? To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <4413284c0612150518v558e0aecla9fc2bc0aaca004 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/15/06, Andy wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go > about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old > Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking > more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for > this? I use the GUI, search for linux-image, find all versions installed (like 2.6.17-10), then search for the version number. I then remove all kernel-related packages for that version, keeping only the current one. > Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point? There was indeed. Don't know what happened to this project though... Herv?. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:40:27 +0100 From: Eberhard Roloff Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet? To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Trevor Nye wrote: > >> >> I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. >> >> df -h >> shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and >> what percentage of that space is in use. >> > I tried this cammand but I get this result > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% / > varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run > varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock > procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb > udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev > devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm > lrm 506M 18M 489M > 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ > But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10 hmmm, so that means that you are running out of space in / ;-) Now use Clives command to identify the most critical space hogs and proceed from there. After you will be "clean" again, you might consider to use separate partitions for anything that is eating up your space. Doing this, you keep a workable computer, even if your space eating daemons will render their separate partition to be out of space. Imho, it usually is a good idea to have /home on a separate partition, Depending on what you do, /var (and many more) could also make sense. Btw. having you /home on a separate partition also will make any distribution reinstall or upgrade nearly trivial. Kind regards Eberhard ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 117 ********************************************* Da Real Diz {EX SKUL NERD} www.skulnerd.150m.com www.xanga.com/hensgray __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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On 12/15/06, Bjoern Ottervik wrote: > I think this is pretty simple as well: the information you get about > upgrades shouldnt be dependant on weather there is a 'K' in front of > Ubuntu or not. Its diffrent flavours of the same distro, and requesting > they provide the same functionality in this isnt that far fetched. > Ive not used Kubuntu in a long while (since Hoary) so I cant say how > updating is handled these days, but perhaps a bugreport might be the > thing to do. Will you submit one, Anthony? -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --------------------------------- Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 15 18:44:57 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:44:57 +0100 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 117 (System info. ram, hardisk...) In-Reply-To: <345144.23596.qm@web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <345144.23596.qm@web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4582ED29.7060703@welcomes-you.com> Hi Ralph, in case you meant me (which was not clear to me by top-posting the digest)... Ralph O. schrieb: > Carsten! > To get information about your computer. I'l advise you to run windows,& > open the help & support cenre, type memory in the search box 'n' click > get information about my computer. There, you'll find the ram, hardisk > hdd space 'n' all that. If this is not what you're looking for, hit me > back 'n' be more elaborate & specific and I'll advise you. > (1) I don't have windows except on a single computer I own (2) for most hardware information this is more than enough (and sometimes redundent) (a) lshw (b) smartmontools (c) hdparm (d) lm-sensors (e) what was this ECC memory testing thingy again... starts with an e (f) /proc (g) /sys (h) lspci (i) lsusb (3) For example what I'm currently looking for is a tool, telling me, what kind of memory resides in which memory slot, plus telling me the content of the SPD, but I have not yet looked extensively. If you happen to know about this (under Linux), I'd appreciate any help. Cheers Carsten From oozypal at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 18:41:06 2006 From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:41:06 +0300 Subject: Search for a phares inside a bunch of html, css, php, txt files Message-ID: <299ffe0d0612151041kd560ff2v49dd3ace9a0d7ee7@mail.gmail.com> Hi, How can I search for a phares inside a bunch of html, css, php, txt files? Thank you -- OOzy Kubuntu-Edgy From carsten at welcomes-you.com Fri Dec 15 18:49:20 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:49:20 +0100 Subject: Search for a phares inside a bunch of html, css, php, txt files In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0612151041kd560ff2v49dd3ace9a0d7ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <299ffe0d0612151041kd560ff2v49dd3ace9a0d7ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4582EE30.3000805@welcomes-you.com> OOzy Pal schrieb: > How can I search for a phares inside a bunch of html, css, php, txt files? > E.g. by using grep -ri 'Phrase' . in the top level directory. The man page of grep (or egrep) can give you more info about other command line options. HTH Carsten From housam59 at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 18:52:57 2006 From: housam59 at gmail.com (housam marzouk) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:52:57 +0200 Subject: modem not responding Message-ID: G'day all, Can I get a help in this matter? Trying to connect to the internet using a dial-up modem, I did the following: -downloading & unpacking the SLMODEMD.gcc4 . - copying the slmodemd to /usr/sbin then, housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/slmodemd housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0m housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo slmodemd -c EGYPT --alsa snd-intel8x0m hw:0,6 I,ve got the following: Quote: Usage: slmodemd [option...] Where 'device' is name of modem device (default `/dev/slamr0') and 'option' may be: -h, --help this usage -u, --usage this usage -v, --version show version and exit -c, --country=VAL default modem country name (default `EGYPT') --countrylist show list of supported countries -a, --alsa ALSA mode (see README for howto) -g, --group=VAL Modem TTY group (default `uucp') -p, --perm=VAL Modem TTY permission (default `0660') -r, --ringdetector with internal ring detector (software) -n, --nortpriority run with regular priority -s, --shortbuffer use short buffer (4 periods length) -d, --debug=VAL debug level (default `0') -l, --log=VAL logging mode (default `5') housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo slmodemd --alsa -c EGYPT hw:0,6 SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.11 Mar 13 2006 18:27:33 symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/1' created. modem `hw:0,6' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/1' Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. and in another terminal I configured wvdial: housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf and got the following: Quote: Password: Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'. Scanning your serial ports for a modem. Modem Port Scan<*1>: S0 S1 S2 S3 S4 S5 S6 S7 Modem Port Scan<*1>: S8 S9 S10 S11 S12 S13 S14 S15 Modem Port Scan<*1>: S16 S17 S18 S19 S20 S21 S22 S23 Modem Port Scan<*1>: S24 S25 S26 S27 S28 S29 S30 S31 Modem Port Scan<*1>: S32 S33 S34 S35 S36 S37 S38 S39 Modem Port Scan<*1>: S40 S41 S42 S43 S44 S45 S46 S47 WvModem<*1>: Cannot get information for serial port. ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- OK ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 Z -- OK ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 -- OK ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 -- OK ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 -- OK ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Modem Identifier: ATI -- SmartLink Soft Modem ttySL0<*1>: Speed 4800: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 9600: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 19200: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 38400: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 57600: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 115200: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 230400: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Speed 460800: AT -- OK ttySL0<*1>: Max speed is 460800; that should be safe. ttySL0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK Found a modem on /dev/ttySL0. Modem configuration written to /etc/wvdial.conf. ttySL0: Speed 460800; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0" and editing wvdial.conf: housam at housam-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf and running sudo wvdial got the following: Quote: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.55 --> Cannot get information for serial port. --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ATZ OK --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 OK --> Modem initialized. --> Sending: ATDT07770777 --> Waiting for carrier. ATDT07770777 CONNECT 50667 --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. ** Welcome ** ascend% --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". ppp PPP: Not enabled ascend% --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". ppp PPP: Not enabled ascend% --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". ppp PPP: Not enabled ascend% --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". ppp PPP: Not enabled ascend% --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. --> Starting pppd at Fri Dec 15 15:47:47 2006 --> Pid of pppd: 6906 --> Using interface ppp0 --> Disconnecting at Fri Dec 15 15:48:17 2006 --> The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16) --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. --> Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man pages for more information. --> Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds --> Cannot get information for serial port. --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ATZ Unknown command ascend% --> Sending: ATQ0 ATQ0 Unknown command ascend% --> Re-Sending: ATZ ATZ Unknown command ascend% --> Modem not responding. --> Cannot get information for serial port. --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ascend% ATZ Unknown command ascend% --> Sending: ATQ0 ATQ0 Unknown command ascend% --> Re-Sending: ATZ ATZ Unknown command ascend% --> Modem not responding. --> Disconnecting at Fri Dec 15 15:48:41 2006 Now what is the problem? and what to do?? thanks for the help __________________ From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Fri Dec 15 19:10:00 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:10:00 -0800 Subject: subject: Re: Giving up on Edgy In-Reply-To: References: <455FDA52.7010103@shaw.ca> <4560672B.2070907@weblore.com> <200611191219.16846.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <4560C5F3.9040609@systemstheory.net> Message-ID: <4582F308.6030304@systemstheory.net> Scott wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:00:35 -0800, sdavmor > spake thusly: > >> Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: >>> On Sunday 19 November 2006 11:16, my mailbox was graced by a >>> missive from Michael Satterwhite who wrote: >>> >>>> But that says it all. I use my system for productive work. I *DO* >>>> expect it to boot on the first try using my LCD monitor ... it >>>> can't. >>> Maybe we should keep to LTS releases for machines used in >>> productive work ? >> That is a very sensible suggestion. Most of my client's in-store >> production database servers are still running RH7.x, because there >> has not been (until now) any practical business reason to "upgrade" >> them. > > What about security? Where does one find security updates for an ancient > unsupported distro? It hasn't been an issue. Their retail store POS systems are all behind a firewall that has all ports turned off except one that points to the linux server. The setup is the same in each location. It has all external services turned off so the only thing that will get an acknowledgement is an ssh request. And then within the server system we have two additional application hoops to jump through. We are looking forward to moving forward to Ubuntu-based servers in the new year. But that's mainly because of the need to to get onto more modern hardware and get some (lacking) standardization in place. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From sdavmor at systemstheory.net Fri Dec 15 19:11:59 2006 From: sdavmor at systemstheory.net (sdavmor) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:11:59 -0800 Subject: subject: Re: Giving up on Edgy In-Reply-To: <143f0f6c0611221806q33f540cenc0d761635c9d6d4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <455FDA52.7010103@shaw.ca> <4560672B.2070907@weblore.com> <200611191219.16846.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <4560C5F3.9040609@systemstheory.net> <143f0f6c0611221806q33f540cenc0d761635c9d6d4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4582F37F.3050308@systemstheory.net> Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On 11/20/06, Scott wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:00:35 -0800, sdavmor >> spake thusly: >>> That is a very sensible suggestion. Most of my client's in-store >>> production database servers are still running RH7.x, because there >>> has not been (until now) any practical business reason to "upgrade" >>> them. >> What about security? Where does one find security updates for an ancient >> unsupported distro? > > http://www.fedoralegacy.org/ provides patches for Red Hat 7.3. You > can get patches released previous to the Fedora Legacy Project taking > it over from ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/. [nods] That's been an effective source for keeping things glued tight. -- Cheers, SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man Systems Theory internet music project links: official site soundclick garageband "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004 "Codetalkers" CD coming Nov 2006 NP: nothing From carthik at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 19:31:19 2006 From: carthik at gmail.com (Carthik Sharma) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:31:19 -0500 Subject: Filename Charset issue with Terminal and Nautilus Message-ID: <80f75db0612151131r15f41e26pb717241a45d9d777@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have a few filenames that never display properly in Nautilus and the terminal. In Nautilus, rectangles are shown instead of the character. In the terminal a "^" is shown instead of the character. I thought perhaps the encoding is latin and I need to change it to UTF-8, so I tried using convmv to do this. However, convmv says the names are already UTF-8. So then I think maybe my Locale settings are wrong, but UTF-8 is all over my locale settings. The following is an example: carthik at gabriel:/media/IOMEGA_HDD/music $ convmv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf8 H*sker* Starting a dry run without changes... Skipping, already UTF-8: ./Hsker D No changes to your files done. Use --notest to finally rename the files. carthik at gabriel:/media/IOMEGA_HDD/music $ echo $LOCALE carthik at gabriel:/media/IOMEGA_HDD/music $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= So, 1) How do I get the characters to display properly, what am I missing? 2) How can I find out the encoding used in a filename - is there a utility that will tell me " this filename is utf-8 and that one is latin-1"? Thank you for your help, Carthik. -- Ph.D. Candidate University of Central Florida Homepage: http://carthik.net From cameron.lists at desk003.com Fri Dec 15 21:50:52 2006 From: cameron.lists at desk003.com (cameron conner) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:50:52 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> Message-ID: <20061215155052.141436.ccdbfd0d@desk003.com> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:41:40 -0600, Brad Johnson wrote: >>> Personally, I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop WITHOUT a 7200RPM >>> HDD. >> >> Not to intrude here, however battery life and heat are two major >> reasons for staying away from 7200rpm drives in laptops... >> > > You bring up a good point. There will be more heat from a 7200RPM drive. > If your laptop is badly built and has just enough cooling power and > battery life to handle it's stock equipment, you may have troubles. > > On the other hand. Some laptops can handle a 7200RPM drive just fine. My > IBM T42 Laptop has a 1.7GHZ processor, 15" screen, 7200RPM HDD (stock), > 1GB RAM and my battery life is over 2 hours. My HDD temp is 33 C which > is below body temperature and sensors-applet shows the cooling fans even > turn off at times. > You consider 2hrs of battery life okay? Mine gets 3-4, and that's with wifi and bluetooth. It's only got a 4200rpm drive, but I know ones similar that have 5400rpm drives get about 3 hours, and they have bigger screens. Does the fan run? Hardly ever. You don't want the bloody thing to unless it needs to. It kills battery life and is really annoying. > The result is a laptop that feels like a desktop. At work I have a Dell > laptop with a 2Ghz processor, 512MB RAM and a 5400RPM HDD. The IBM walks > all over the Dell simply because of HDD speed. > > Brad > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users peace, cameron -- AIM&Y!: desk003com From garryknight at gmx.net Fri Dec 15 22:15:33 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:15:33 +0000 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: <219482c0612150459k633132b7sc4be90da460bc532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andy wrote: > is there some way of safely removing all the old Kernels? As long as you haven't booted to a kernel, you can safely delete its image from /boot. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From garryknight at gmx.net Fri Dec 15 22:17:39 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:17:39 +0000 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: <1166185536.4956.3.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: Trevor Nye wrote: > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% / > varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run > varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock > procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb > udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev > devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm > lrm 506M 18M 489M > 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile > trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ > But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10 Then hda2 and hda3 aren't mounted, or they'd show up in the list. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From rodrigo.chinaski at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 22:32:57 2006 From: rodrigo.chinaski at gmail.com (rodrigochinaski) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:32:57 -0200 Subject: badram Message-ID: <1166221977.537.3.camel@starkey> Greetings.. What are the odds of new ubuntu coming with built-in badram patches? That would save a great deal of time for users with badram chips. Ubuntu doesn't even have a linux-patch-badram package. thanks. From ben at cvrse.com Fri Dec 15 23:18:18 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:18:18 +1100 Subject: No mp3 tags in Edgy? In-Reply-To: <458156FA.3030105@gmail.com> References: <458156FA.3030105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061215231818.GA5621@rip.cvrse.com> * Anthony D. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > When either ripping CDs as mp3s or translating my flac files into mp3s > in Edgy, I've noticed there's no mp3 tags at all being written. I've > checked ID3v1 and v2 within programs like EasyTag, xmms, etc., and > there's usually nothing at all written besides the name of the song. > Tried ripping my CDs with SoundJuicer and grip, and translating the > flacs into mp3s with soundconverter (both the version that came with > Ubuntu and the newest version compiled from the program's website), > but nothing comes of any of these. > > Any ideas or suggestions on what's wrong, or how to rectify this? Thanks! the version of sound juicer in edgy writes the tags in format id3v2.4 easytag doesnt support v2.4 yet only v2.3 + v1, xmms is in the same boat. try opening it with a modern app such as amarok or rhythmbox. as for grip you need to set the checkbox for it to rip with a id3vX tag otherwise it wont include them by default. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been using the instructions found at the URL below[1] in order to set up OpenLDAP, Samba and PAM, tying everything together really nicely with a decent web frontend for user, group and machine account creation and administration. I've built a few production systems like this on Debian Sarge, and tested it on Ubuntu as well. However, just recently, I found that the newer version of phpldap, etc. (on Debian Etch) seem to not work with these instructions, so I had to pin the phpldap from Debian Sarge in order to get things working. Chances are, the same probably applies to newer Ubuntu distros. I'm really interested in seeing how smbldap works out. I may migrate to that. [1] http://www.nomis52.net/?section=docs&page=samldap -- -- AL -- From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Dec 16 05:14:48 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:14:48 -0500 Subject: feisty: acx100: "no wireless extensions" error In-Reply-To: <2cfc2c9f0612150752q1d538606q19beb8e0badeaf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1166196616.19592.74.camel@localhost> <2cfc2c9f0612150752q1d538606q19beb8e0badeaf9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166246088.19592.91.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-15-12 at 16:52 +0100, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > On 12/15/06, Matt Price wrote: > > hi > > on a fresh install of ubuntu feisty, kernel 2.6.19, recent acx100 > [...] > > I don't know enough about this to diagnose further. any hints? > > > > Posting a bug in Launchpad, or chatting in #ubuntu+1 > (irc.freenode.org) about it? > didn't get anyone there but fixed my immediate problem by downgrading to edgy -- waso nly working with feisty b/c I hadn't been able to find a non-live edgy cd as I can't use it. but found the xubuntu edgy cd, installed form it, and voila... matt > -- > Adriano Varoli Piazza > The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar > MSN - GTalk - Jabber: moranar at gmail.com > ICQ: 4410132 > -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My HDD temp is 33 C which > > is below body temperature and sensors-applet shows the cooling fans even > > turn off at times. > > > > You consider 2hrs of battery life okay? Mine gets 3-4, and that's with > wifi and bluetooth. It's only got a 4200rpm drive, but I know ones > similar that have 5400rpm drives get about 3 hours, and they have > bigger screens. Your comments got me thinking. The 2hr battery life was measured by unplugging my docking station. I did not un-dock the laptop. With the laptop un-docked my battery life is reported as 2 hours 54 minutes (essentially 3 hours). I also have wifi/bluetooth and both are switched on. I personally would gladly trade a 4th hour of battery runtime for desktop-like performance. I'm sorry, but I do not subscribe to the "we're going to slow your entire laptop down to achive longer battery life and then sell it as a feature" mentality of many manufacturers. The originator of this thread was complaining about the performance of his laptop. My suggestions were made in the spirit of helping him out. It was not my intention to alienate those with slower HDDs. Brad From cameron.lists at desk003.com Sat Dec 16 07:54:32 2006 From: cameron.lists at desk003.com (cameron conner) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:54:32 -0600 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166253136.4895.41.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> <20061215155052.141436.ccdbfd0d@desk003.com> <1166253136.4895.41.camel@t42> Message-ID: <20061216015432.794930.cbb954fe@desk003.com> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:12:16 -0600, Brad Johnson wrote: > >>> On the other hand. Some laptops can handle a 7200RPM drive just fine. My >>> IBM T42 Laptop has a 1.7GHZ processor, 15" screen, 7200RPM HDD (stock), >>> 1GB RAM and my battery life is over 2 hours. My HDD temp is 33 C which >>> is below body temperature and sensors-applet shows the cooling fans even >>> turn off at times. >>> >> >> You consider 2hrs of battery life okay? Mine gets 3-4, and that's with >> wifi and bluetooth. It's only got a 4200rpm drive, but I know ones >> similar that have 5400rpm drives get about 3 hours, and they have >> bigger screens. > > Your comments got me thinking. The 2hr battery life was measured by > unplugging my docking station. I did not un-dock the laptop. With the > laptop un-docked my battery life is reported as 2 hours 54 minutes > (essentially 3 hours). I also have wifi/bluetooth and both are switched > on. What is estimated is almost always wrong. It doesn't take into account processor usage, which can't really be guessed at as it doesn't know what you're going to do. > I personally would gladly trade a 4th hour of battery runtime for > desktop-like performance. I'm sorry, but I do not subscribe to the > "we're going to slow your entire laptop down to achive longer battery > life and then sell it as a feature" mentality of many manufacturers. http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html You'll notice that the speed increase isn't that great, and actually it's a decrease on the random read, however that may be due to other factors. Obviously a 7200rpm drive will be faster. The question is if the speed increase is so noticeable to warrant giving up the battery life and adding a lot of heat. This isn't a worry in desktop systems or some laptops. I personally don't have any issues with my 4200rpm drive in my iBook G4, and I work with lots of big photoshop files. I just don't notice a problem. I don't have the ability to do a direct comparison though. However I agree that the jump from 4200rpm to 5400rpm would be really noticeable, I think it'd be debatable if you can truly tell with normal operations the difference between 5400rpm and 7200rpm. I saw a really good comparison awhile ago, but can't seem to find it now. > The originator of this thread was complaining about the performance of > his laptop. My suggestions were made in the spirit of helping him out. > It was not my intention to alienate those with slower HDDs. I'm sorry if you thought I was accusing you of alienating people with slower HDDs. That wasn't my intention either, I was just continuing the discussion of slower spinning HDDs vs battery life and such. > Brad peace, cameron -- AIM&Y!: desk003com From matt.kuiken at verizon.net Sat Dec 16 08:23:34 2006 From: matt.kuiken at verizon.net (Matthew Kuiken) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:23:34 -0800 Subject: Old pc faster than ecent In-Reply-To: <1166253136.4895.41.camel@t42> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <65241ce50612140753g55fcf9cdr19ee262cb197f5d@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612140836u270afd7dxe2aeb15cf1ca8ed1@mail.gmail.com> <1166162437.4804.12.camel@t42> <20061215012756.611285.54e63f8e@desk003.com> <1166179300.4804.43.camel@t42> <20061215155052.141436.ccdbfd0d@desk003.com> <1166253136.4895.41.camel@t42> Message-ID: Brad Johnson wrote: > Your comments got me thinking. The 2hr battery life was measured by > unplugging my docking station. I did not un-dock the laptop. With the > laptop un-docked my battery life is reported as 2 hours 54 minutes > (essentially 3 hours). I also have wifi/bluetooth and both are switched > on. > > I personally would gladly trade a 4th hour of battery runtime for > desktop-like performance. I'm sorry, but I do not subscribe to the > "we're going to slow your entire laptop down to achive longer battery > life and then sell it as a feature" mentality of many manufacturers. > > The originator of this thread was complaining about the performance of > his laptop. My suggestions were made in the spirit of helping him out. > It was not my intention to alienate those with slower HDDs. I wasn't really alienated until the second to last paragraph here... Because you seem to think it is not a feature, I needed to chime in with my experience. I bought a laptop that "achieves longer battery life by slowing the entire thing down," and I do find that it is a feature. Unplugging my laptop right now, the battery applet reports that I have 5.5 hours of battery remaining. I know from experience that it is more like six hours. This is a really big deal when I get on a plane, and can read email, or type code for the whole flight. Watching a movie reduces the battery to around 3 hours, but is still enough that I can make it through a full movie, and do some reading/writing if I wish. I take it with me on trips over the weekend, and don't worry about the charger, I won't need it for the amount of time I'm gone... I'm grateful that my laptop comes with a 5400 RPM drive. The attention to saving power really pays off on this one. It is not as fast as a desktop, but it is not meant to be a desktop. It is meant to run off battery. I've got a desktop for my high speed work. BTW, it is also only 3 lbs, so it is small enough to be really portable. -Matt From karistouf at yahoo.fr Sat Dec 16 09:28:44 2006 From: karistouf at yahoo.fr (christoph guillermet) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:28:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?to=20Herv=E9,=20unsuscribing?= In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612150943g7da67d30kafa212bfaeeb067f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460545.10369.qm@web58202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I was two year before on the forum because I was using Ubuntu.hre : https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users nor by sending desesperate emails. Actuallly I m receiving too much messages and I m obliged to spam them ... yours are coming directly. une petite aide serait la bienvenue ... merci >> site internet schwartzpeter: http://karistouf.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Herve at lucidia.net Sat Dec 16 11:03:05 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:03:05 -0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_to_Herv=C3=A9,_unsuscribing?= In-Reply-To: <460545.10369.qm@web58202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <4413284c0612150943g7da67d30kafa212bfaeeb067f@mail.gmail.com> <460545.10369.qm@web58202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612160303m538fe492la223e43d09108f09@mail.gmail.com> Je n'ai rien trouve de special qui justifie un comportement different pour les e-mails que j'envoie... Peut-etre pourrais-tu filter sur mon adresse e-mail pour qu'ils aillent a la corbeille directment ? Vois-tu quelque chose de different entre mes e-mails et ceux des autres dans les champs From: To: ou CC:? Hervé. On 12/16/06, christoph guillermet wrote: > I was two year before on the forum because I was using Ubuntu.hre : > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users > nor by sending desesperate emails. Actuallly I m receiving too much messages > and I m obliged to spam them ... yours are coming directly. > > une petite aide serait la bienvenue ... > merci From tbag at internode.on.net Sat Dec 16 11:49:07 2006 From: tbag at internode.on.net (Tony Bazeley) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:19:07 +1030 Subject: Dual Boot problem Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20061211172144.02214b50@203.14.158.1> I'm new to Ubuntu and am having trouble installing Xubuntu 6.10 I am using the "Alternate CD" and have succeeded on my older test box but have problems on the box I use for everyday purposes. On each box I have 2 primary partitions, and one extended. The first partition contains XP and Xubuntu is in the second. Grub is installed into the Xubuntu partition, rather than the MBR. In the test box I am able to toggle the active partition (using parted from SystemRescueCD) and either boot directly into XP, or to either XP or Xubuntu via Grub. However on my main machine I can toggle the active partition and boot into XP, but cannot get Grub to start, and hence cannot boot into Xubuntu. - (I get the error message "missing operating system) I noticed the following odd behavior on the main machine: During installation it referred to the SATA drive as SCISI1, and named my second primary partition /dev/sda3 - the extended partition was named /dev/sda2 In addition running Grub from the SystemRescueCD reports Xubuntu on (hd0,2) Mounting /dev/sda3 from the SystemRescueCD shows menu.lst to be consistent with this naming convention. I attempted to boot using grub from the SystemRescueCD as described at http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm, but control falls though to the SystemRescueCD. run_qtparted from the SystemRescueCD also crashes on attempting to display partitions on /dev/sda The setup is: Motherboard: Asus A7N8X - Deluxe HDD: SATA 120Gb Partitions: /dev/sda1 XP /dev/sda3 Xubuntu + Extended partition containing Linux swap and a number of NTFS partions I'm really not sure what to try next and any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Tony Bazeley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 15/12/2006 5:10 PM From prudek at bvx.cz Sat Dec 16 13:39:26 2006 From: prudek at bvx.cz (Milos Prudek) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:39:26 +0100 Subject: Hardware requirements Message-ID: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> What are Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) hardware requirements for Live DVD? I tried to run Live Kubuntu 6.10 on Pentium 333MHz with 90MB of RAM, 8 MB of which is shared with embedded videocard SiS 620. - Kernel booted - X Window System launched (the black and white screen with the X cursor) - then KDE seemed to be starting (blue background, cursor switched to a white arrow, - then the PC locked up. I also tried to install Mandriva, but the install failed. The only thing that I can run is Damn Small Linux, but only if I set a swap file for it. Is 90 MB RAM too little RAM for Live Kubuntu? -- Milos Prudek From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 14:07:50 2006 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:07:50 -0400 Subject: Hardware requirements In-Reply-To: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> References: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> Message-ID: <865773ce0612160607t5a2688b9pc9c0eb28a05ef4b4@mail.gmail.com> On 12/16/06, Milos Prudek wrote: > What are Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) hardware requirements for Live DVD? > > I tried to run Live Kubuntu 6.10 on Pentium 333MHz with 90MB of RAM, 8 MB of > which is shared with embedded videocard SiS 620. > > - Kernel booted > - X Window System launched (the black and white screen with the X cursor) > - then KDE seemed to be starting (blue background, cursor switched to a white > arrow, > - then the PC locked up. > > I also tried to install Mandriva, but the install failed. > > The only thing that I can run is Damn Small Linux, but only if I set a swap > file for it. > > Is 90 MB RAM too little RAM for Live Kubuntu? I have read that you 256 MB of RAM, for UBUNTU and KUBUNTU, maybe you need XUBUNTU instead. regards, Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) From matt.price at utoronto.ca Sat Dec 16 14:27:50 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:27:50 -0500 Subject: get rid of annoying session-saving prompt on logout? Message-ID: <1166279270.19592.110.camel@localhost> Hi, When I log out of ubuntu, I am asked for two confirmations: 1) confirmation "do you really want to log out?" 2) "the following windows do not support session management. you will have to restart them when you log back in" (messages approximate, it's hard to capture them and then keep working). I don't mind (1). But (2) is really annoying, as it's sometimes hidden and I can forget that I haven't yet really shut down. I would like to getrid of it but don't see an option in gconf. anything I can do about this? thanks, matt -- Matt Price History Dept University of Toronto matt.price at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 14:33:57 2006 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:33:57 -0400 Subject: Hardware requirements In-Reply-To: <865773ce0612160607t5a2688b9pc9c0eb28a05ef4b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> <865773ce0612160607t5a2688b9pc9c0eb28a05ef4b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <865773ce0612160633q8d3b97cp507b282e9c6d441f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/16/06, Guillermo Garron wrote: > On 12/16/06, Milos Prudek wrote: > > What are Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) hardware requirements for Live DVD? > > > > I tried to run Live Kubuntu 6.10 on Pentium 333MHz with 90MB of RAM, 8 MB of > > which is shared with embedded videocard SiS 620. > > > > - Kernel booted > > - X Window System launched (the black and white screen with the X cursor) > > - then KDE seemed to be starting (blue background, cursor switched to a white > > arrow, > > - then the PC locked up. > > > > I also tried to install Mandriva, but the install failed. > > > > The only thing that I can run is Damn Small Linux, but only if I set a swap > > file for it. > > > > Is 90 MB RAM too little RAM for Live Kubuntu? > I have read that you 256 MB of RAM, for UBUNTU and KUBUNTU, maybe you > need XUBUNTU instead. I have found this link https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html > > regards, > > Guillermo Garron > "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." > (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) > -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Sat Dec 16 16:53:29 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:53:29 +0300 Subject: gdm enters an infinite busywait loop upon entering password and striking enter Message-ID: <20061216165329.4394.11877.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Package: gdm Version: 2.17.3-0ubuntu3 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system Upon satisfying gdmgreeter with login/password, the third instance of the gdm process is launched, which enters an infinite busywait loop, presenting the user with a box of a solid white color. Attaching a strace to the runaway gdm process reveals this: .... ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLNVAL}], 3, 0) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLNVAL}], 3, 0) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLNVAL}], 3, 0) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLNVAL}], 3, 0) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLNVAL}], 3, 0) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 .... -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers feisty APT policy: (500, 'feisty') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-mm3-betelheise Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages gdm depends on: ii adduser 3.100 Add and remove users and groups ii alsa-utils 1.0.13-1ubuntu1 ALSA utilities ii aterm [x-termi 1.0.0-2 Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator f ii aterm-ml [x-te 1.0.0-2 Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator f ii debconf 1.5.10 Debian configuration management sy ii dpkg 1.13.24ubuntu1 package maintenance system for Deb ii fvwm [x-window 1:2.5.18-2 F(?) Virtual Window Manager, versi ii gksu 2.0.0-1ubuntu1 graphical frontend to su ii gnome-session 2.17.3-0ubuntu1 The GNOME 2 Session Manager ii gnome-terminal 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 The GNOME 2 terminal emulator appl ii kwin [x-window 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11 the KDE window manager ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.17-1 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libatk1.0-0 1.12.3-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libattr1 2.4.32-1ubuntu1 Extended attribute shared library ii libc6 2.5-0ubuntu5 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo2 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libdbus-1-3 1.0.2-1ubuntu2 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdbus-glib-1 0.72-0ubuntu2 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdmx1 1:1.0.2-2 X11 Distributed Multihead extensio ii libfontconfig1 2.4.1-2ubuntu2 generic font configuration library ii libfreetype6 2.2.1-5 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libglade2-0 1:2.6.0-2ubuntu1 library to load .glade files at ru ii libglib2.0-0 2.12.4-2ubuntu1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnomecanvas 2.14.0-3ubuntu1 A powerful object-oriented display ii libgtk2.0-0 2.10.6-0ubuntu1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libice6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libpam-modules 0.79-3.1ubuntu1 Pluggable Authentication Modules f ii libpam-runtime 0.79-3.1ubuntu1 Runtime support for the PAM librar ii libpam0g 0.79-3.1ubuntu1 Pluggable Authentication Modules l ii libpango1.0-0 1.15.1-0ubuntu1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpng12-0 1.2.15~beta5-0 PNG library - runtime ii libpopt0 1.10-3 lib for parsing cmdline parameters ii librsvg2-2 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 SAX-based renderer library for SVG ii librsvg2-commo 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 SAX-based renderer library for SVG ii libselinux1 1.32-3 SELinux shared libraries ii libsm6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 Session Management library ii libwrap0 7.6.dbs-11 Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers libra ii libx11-6 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu5 X11 client-side library ii libxau6 1:1.0.1-2 X11 authorisation library ii libxcursor1 1.1.7-0ubuntu1 X cursor management library ii libxdmcp6 1:1.0.1-2 X11 Display Manager Control Protoc ii libxext6 2:1.0.1-1ubuntu1 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxfixes3 1:4.0.1-0ubuntu1 X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio ii libxi6 2:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 X11 Input extension library ii libxinerama1 2:1.0.1-4build1 X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxml2 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu1 GNOME XML library ii libxrandr2 2:1.1.1-0ubuntu1 X11 RandR extension library ii libxrender1 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu1 X Rendering Extension client libra ii lsb-base 3.1-22ubuntu1 Linux Standard Base 3.1 init scrip ii metacity [x-wi 1:2.17.3-0ubuntu1 A lightweight GTK2 based Window Ma ii rxvt-unicode-m 7.9-2 multi-lingual terminal emulator wi ii twm [x-window- 1:1.0.1-4build1 Tab window manager ii ubuntu-sounds 0.5 Ubuntu's GNOME audio theme ii xrdb 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu2 X resource modification ii xterm [x-termi 216-0ubuntu1 X terminal emulator ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu3 compression library - runtime Versions of packages gdm recommends: ii ubuntu-artwork 35 Ubuntu themes and artwork ii whiptail 0.52.2-8 Displays user-friendly dialog boxe ii zenity 2.17.1-0ubuntu1 Display graphical dialog boxes fro -- debconf information: gdm/daemon_name: /usr/sbin/gdm * shared/default-x-display-manager: gdm From prudek at bvx.cz Sat Dec 16 17:33:57 2006 From: prudek at bvx.cz (Milos Prudek) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:33:57 +0100 Subject: Hardware requirements In-Reply-To: <865773ce0612160633q8d3b97cp507b282e9c6d441f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> <865773ce0612160607t5a2688b9pc9c0eb28a05ef4b4@mail.gmail.com> <865773ce0612160633q8d3b97cp507b282e9c6d441f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612161833.57872.prudek@bvx.cz> > I have found this link > https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-req >uirements.html This link is not helpful. I needed the requirements for operation of Live DVD, not for operation from HDD after the OS is installed. Live DVD must have higher RAM requirements than normal installation, since no HDD space is used and the virtual filesystem occupies a significant part of RAM. Anyway, the PC in question proved to be flaky, horribly unstable even under Damn Small Linux, and not deserving to run any Linux. -- Milos Prudek From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Sat Dec 16 18:24:58 2006 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:24:58 +0000 Subject: encrypted image file In-Reply-To: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <1166293498.7762.17.camel@epsilon> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 21:03 -0500, Richard wrote: > okay, on the Mac, I could make a encrypted image file with AES 256, > and enter a password, set the size 2 - 4GB it would create a image file, > and would NOT MOUNT it, > until I enter the password correctly, the you could add folder and > files.. and whatever > to the image. > > -- > NOW, is there anything like that for ubuntu. > I work on, allot of clients projects...so once I am done, I would > unmount the image file. > > Thanks- > Rich encfs will do exactly that. -- Brant Fitzsimmons BF Computer Consulting -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anthony -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhEWzzwIa79lKFVURAocCAJ9pzN5i1vsVIE4f0jZSxkZbvGZb5QCgoFhv 6RWqv/HftvdJkpdQYA9xLnM= =pW9x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From daniel.haensse at freesurf.ch Sat Dec 16 19:37:14 2006 From: daniel.haensse at freesurf.ch (Daniel Haensse) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:37:14 +0100 Subject: XEN 64 bit and i386 problems with Edgy Message-ID: <45844AEA.7050103@freesurf.ch> Dear list, I'm playing around with Ubuntu 6.10 server trying to get XEN working. First tried the AMD64 release, but with no luck, got a kernel bug mm/rmap.c:560, http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-bugs/2006-09/msg00019.html I also tried i386 with some more luck according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuEdgy Everything works with until a second domU is started which crashed dom0 :-( I read that with xen 3.03 at least the AMD64 problem is fixed. Read somewhere that with ubuntu 6.10, these packages based on xen 3.03 are already available. apt-cache search only shows xen3.0 based packages, as described in the ubuntu documentation. Maybe I have to modify my apt source-list for this? regards Dani From rajiv1 at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 20:24:43 2006 From: rajiv1 at gmail.com (Rajiv Vyas) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:24:43 -0500 Subject: Latest Beagle Install Message-ID: <9d8a555a0612161224p19d51a94ua2a3b0a62e68b9a2@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone tried the latest Beagle (.2.14)? How does one install it? Rajiv From dsyates at mindspring.com Sat Dec 16 20:51:38 2006 From: dsyates at mindspring.com (dsyates) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:51:38 -0500 Subject: latest fvwm (2.5.19) with gentoo translucency patch for ubuntu edgy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45845C5A.7050608@mindspring.com> Hello all, I have patched the the latest fvwm source (version 2.5.19) to include the gentoo translucency patch. I made a deb package for edgy. Get it at: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/fvwm/ Happy hacking, but beware this is the crack cocaine of window managers. here is a old-ish screenshot: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/images/fvwm2_screen.jpg -- David S. Yates webpage: http://lottalinuxlinks.com blog: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/blog podcast: http://lottalinuxlinks/podcast/ From amichai at iglu.org.il Sat Dec 16 21:35:02 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:35:02 +0200 Subject: XTreme Desktops on Ubuntu? Message-ID: Hi guys, I came across this site: http://www.xtremedesktops.com And wondered if theres a way to make something like that for GNU/Linux / Ubuntu... Thanks! -- :====================================================:. 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URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Dec 16 22:13:29 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:13:29 -0600 Subject: Samba: meet LDAP In-Reply-To: References: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45846F89.7030505@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Al Gordon wrote: > I've been using the instructions found at the URL below[1] in order to > set up OpenLDAP, Samba and PAM, tying everything together really > nicely with a decent web frontend for user, group and machine account > creation and administration. I've built a few production systems like > this on Debian Sarge, and tested it on Ubuntu as well. However, just > recently, I found that the newer version of phpldap, etc. (on Debian > Etch) seem to not work with these instructions, so I had to pin the > phpldap from Debian Sarge in order to get things working. Chances > are, the same probably applies to newer Ubuntu distros. > > I'm really interested in seeing how smbldap works out. I may migrate to that. > > [1] http://www.nomis52.net/?section=docs&page=samldap Excellent summary; I've not noticed a problem with phpldamadmin for handling _ldap_ problems, the only problem I seem to have with it is that it lets me do MORE than I know how to do. But, it also allows me to get out of those messes, too. Luma is a nice, more-user-friendly way of dealing with this, but right now it's giving me some kind of "authentication not strong enough" messages which has me scratching my head. I suspect I didn't set up that ldap server with the right password-handling capabilities. I've not wrangled Microsoft in many years...what's the Machine entry for? Is there something unholy about using one's account from a different machine? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhG+I6PLtRzZbdhYRAqydAJ4mrpHqh0rZi9MfegNQtdiv153vOwCfX4Wc Rg4iNIPcpQvbf9wHP5zMqjw= =e1kw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From clarkcox3 at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 19:20:53 2006 From: clarkcox3 at gmail.com (Clark S. Cox III) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:20:53 -0500 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cfc2c9f0612091250i25cc08f3i7b312b8366ca325c@mail.gmail.com> <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/14/06, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: >> On 12/10/06, Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: >>> On 12/9/06, derk jansen wrote: >>>> I'm not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine >>> about >>>> the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. >>> I wouldn't buy a MacBook and then delete Mac OS X off of it, I'd use >>> it and learn from it. So I don't think it's very wise to do what the >>> OP talks about. But yes, the Apples are very nice machines. >>> >>> Saludos >> >> Buying a MacBook is not... but deleting Mac OSX is crazy! > > No, it's not. I already did. > I would recommend keeping a minimal OSX install on the drive, as future firmware updates for the hardware may only be installable while booted into OSX. A tiny 5GB partition shouldn't be to difficult to part with. - -- Clark S. Cox III clarkcox3 at gmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhEcVXkPInUR5a8wRAth0AJ9lMh/oTd5/0TSMQlnaymJuynfC0wCgoPAu YxkTAd9UII1ntBJXgxE++1o= =5QQa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Sat Dec 16 23:37:42 2006 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (Wim Delvaux) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:37:42 +0100 Subject: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: fails to load snd_hda_intel with missing symbol Message-ID: <20061216233742.11164.10051.reportbug@GCV> Package: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic Version: 2.6.17.1-10.34 Severity: critical Justification: breaks unrelated software i did an update/upgrade from 2.6.17-10.33 to current version 2.6.17.1-10.34. Now my snd_hda_intel (and a few other snd_... modules) refuse to load. Output of dmesg is [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_register [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_free_entry [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_unregister_device [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_device_new [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_unregister [17182842.496000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_register_device [17182842.496000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_device [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_register [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_free_entry [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_unregister_device [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_device_new [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_unregister [17182842.516000] snd_timer: disagrees about version of symbol snd_register_device [17182842.516000] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_device [17182842.516000] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_notify [17182842.516000] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_interrupt [17182842.516000] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_card_proc_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_card_proc_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_find_id [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_find_id [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_new1 [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_new1 [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_component_add [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_component_add [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_elem_read [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_elem_read [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_elem_write [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_elem_write [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_list [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_device_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_device_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_step [17182842.524000] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_format_width [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_limit_hw_rates [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_card_register [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_card_register [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_card_free [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_card_free [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_pages_for_all [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_bus_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_build_pcms [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_codec_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_queue_unsol_event [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_card_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_card_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioctl [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_free_pages [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_calc_stream_format [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_set_ops [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_suspend [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_device_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_device_new [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_suspend_all [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_resume [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_integer [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_build_controls [17182842.524000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_period_elapsed On my laptop (running the same kernel : same md5 sums) it module loads( but there I need a different audio driver) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers edgy-updates APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic depends on: ii coreutils [fileutils] 5.96-5ubuntu4 The GNU core utilities ii initramfs-tools 0.69ubuntu20 tools for generating an initramfs ii module-init-tools 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 tools for managing Linux kernel mo Versions of packages linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic recommends: ii grub 0.97-11ubuntu14 GRand Unified Bootloader -- debconf information: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/abort-overwrite-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/kimage-is-a-directory: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/prerm/would-invalidate-boot-loader-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/old-initrd-link-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/overwriting-modules-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/lilo-has-ramdisk: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/depmod-error-initrd-2.6.17-10-generic: false linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/lilo-initrd-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/old-dir-initrd-link-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/old-system-map-link-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/abort-install-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/bootloader-test-error-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/already-running-this-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/initrd-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/create-kimage-link-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/prerm/removing-running-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/depmod-error-2.6.17-10-generic: false linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/postinst/bootloader-error-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/failed-to-move-modules-2.6.17-10-generic: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/elilo-initrd-2.6.17-10-generic: true linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic/preinst/bootloader-initrd-2.6.17-10-generic: true From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 11 23:57:21 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:57:21 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn" 7.04 alpha on ZD Net Message-ID: <1165881441.31729.1.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> At least he has admitted that he was confused between ALPHA and BETA, bless! From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sat Dec 16 23:57:02 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:57:02 +0100 Subject: Problem ndiswrapper with a belkin 802.11g In-Reply-To: <20061216233742.11164.10051.reportbug@GCV> References: <20061216233742.11164.10051.reportbug@GCV> Message-ID: <1166313422.5131.7.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> I have just been through the process of installing my wifi card a BELKIN 802.11g, using the belkin install drivers from the windows install CD, via ndiswrapper. When I completed the install the card has its connected to the PC light on ok. When I start up the system the ethernet light flashes and appears to talk to the base a belkin unit as well. On my machine I have dual boot with windozh XP installed so I know the key and I know that the connection is good. Can anyone help me please. Regards in advance From RickGreep at cti-consulting.com Sun Dec 17 00:39:00 2006 From: RickGreep at cti-consulting.com (Rick Greep) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:39:00 -0600 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: References: <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612161839.13105.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> > >>>> I'm not a tec expert , but even a teacher discount, a windows machine > >>> > >>> about > >>> > >>>> the same specifications still a mac is 800 euro over priced. > >>> > >>> I wouldn't buy a MacBook and then delete Mac OS X off of it, I'd use > >>> it and learn from it. So I don't think it's very wise to do what the > >>> OP talks about. But yes, the Apples are very nice machines. > >>> > >>> Saludos > >> > >> Buying a MacBook is not... but deleting Mac OSX is crazy! > > > > No, it's not. I already did. Within a couple of months of buying my PowerBook G4 (ppc) I realized the gooey sweet candy coating OSX had over BSD was too much to handle. I compared a few flavors of linux and went with Fedora 4. About six months ago I installed kubuntu and have been very impressed. (Almost) everything works, even the Airport card which I had believed I would never use again works. > I would recommend keeping a minimal OSX install on the drive, as future > firmware updates for the hardware may only be installable while booted > into OSX. A tiny 5GB partition shouldn't be to difficult to part with. Just this week I have been playing with Mac-on-Linux. After a number of stumbling blocks, I have a 5G version of OSX 10.3.9 running on another terminal. Now I can watch wmv9 videos and play my iTunes while letting linux control everything on the rest of the box. I have Tiger but I don't really have a reason to upgrade. The Apple hardware is extremely well designed. About a year ago I dropped my open, running, laptop down a staircase. Aside from a dent in the corner, everything survived without any problems. My previous (plastic) Dell laptops would have exploded on the first bounce. The only problem I have with the machine is with the PPC processor. The processor itself is great, but it is very hard to find working codecs, wine or other applications which will run under linux on this processor. The i386 platform sounds like a winner, but I would remove OSX in a heartbeat. -- Rick Greep, Core Technologies, Inc. RickGreep at cti-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zkchong at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 01:25:21 2006 From: zkchong at gmail.com (Chong Zan Kai) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:21 +0800 Subject: Vmware Server hardly to run in Ubuntu 6.06 ?? 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Anyone managed to do it ? -- Vince From veritastic at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 01:55:35 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:55:35 -0500 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox Message-ID: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> Heya All, So, I've recently noticed that in both Firefox and Flock I can only get maybe 2 or 3 seconds worth of video playback, mostly in youtube videos. Any idea why? I see the bar keep loading, but can't figure out why it stops playing there. Thanks, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.smits at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 02:14:15 2006 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:14:15 -0500 Subject: Vmware Server hardly to run in Ubuntu 6.06 ?? In-Reply-To: <45849C81.2040901@gmail.com> References: <45849C81.2040901@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you upgraded the kernel etc lately? In either case, run vmware-config.pl again (as root of course), see if it compiles correctly, should start then. ED On 12/16/06, Chong Zan Kai wrote: > > Dear All, > > Recently I found that I cannot start my vmware (vmware server) for some > unknown reason. Can someone tell m what should I do? I have try to reinstall > the vmware but the problem is still the same. > > > zkchong at zkchong-laptop:/usr/bin$ vmware > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version > information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2) > *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x092b0440 *** > (Then a blank window come out only) > (After I "force quit" the blank window, only the vmware server console come > out) > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version > information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2) > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version > information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2) > > I believe it is sth wrong with my libpng12. But I am sure I didn't touch > anything before this. > > I am using Ubuntu 6.06 and I am sure my ubuntu is updated version. > > Please guide me. Thank you. > -- > Best Regards, > Chong Zan Kai > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > From zkchong at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 02:22:57 2006 From: zkchong at gmail.com (Chong Zan Kai) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:22:57 +0800 Subject: Vmware Server hardly to run in Ubuntu 6.06 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <45849C81.2040901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4584AA01.4000404@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: zkchong.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 343 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3237 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 04:46:05 2006 From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:46:05 -0500 Subject: Hardware requirements In-Reply-To: <200612161833.57872.prudek@bvx.cz> References: <200612161439.26904.prudek@bvx.cz> <865773ce0612160607t5a2688b9pc9c0eb28a05ef4b4@mail.gmail.com> <865773ce0612160633q8d3b97cp507b282e9c6d441f@mail.gmail.com> <200612161833.57872.prudek@bvx.cz> Message-ID: <865773ce0612162046o4e07cd08tac564005c2f2463f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/16/06, Milos Prudek wrote: > > I have found this link > > https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-req > >uirements.html > > This link is not helpful. I needed the requirements for operation of Live DVD, > not for operation from HDD after the OS is installed. Live DVD must have > higher RAM requirements than normal installation, since no HDD space is used > and the virtual filesystem occupies a significant part of RAM. Ok, you can check this and will give an idea, but you are right with your PC it will not work http://www.xubuntu.org/get regards, Guillermo. > > Anyway, the PC in question proved to be flaky, horribly unstable even under > Damn Small Linux, and not deserving to run any Linux. > > -- > Milos Prudek > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 05:37:05 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:37:05 +0800 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: On 12/17/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > It used to be easy enough on Breezy, a lot more challenging in Dapper, > but in Edgy, no way. > > Anyone managed to do it ? > > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > The package ubuntu-artwork contains distributor-logo.png, also each icons have been patched with a scalable ubuntu logo named start-here.svg. I don't really understand what's ubuntu-artwork's png file is for? and where should be it heading? You can replace /usr/share/icons/[Tango|gnome]/scalable/start-here.svg with your own logo. Regards, Joel -- Carpe Diem From cameron.lists at desk003.com Sun Dec 17 06:17:32 2006 From: cameron.lists at desk003.com (cameron conner) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:17:32 -0600 Subject: Is it crazy to buy a MacBook? In-Reply-To: <200612161839.13105.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> References: <6f6293f10612140130p272bb3dck12b3438941d1da84@mail.gmail.com> <200612161839.13105.RickGreep@cti-consulting.com> Message-ID: <20061217001732.395226.375e63cd@desk003.com> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:39:00 -0600, Rick Greep wrote: > Just this week I have been playing with Mac-on-Linux. After a number of > stumbling blocks, I have a 5G version of OSX 10.3.9 running on another > terminal. Now I can watch wmv9 videos and play my iTunes while > letting linux > control everything on the rest of the box. I have Tiger but I don't really > have a reason to upgrade. > > The Apple hardware is extremely well designed. About a year ago I > dropped my > open, running, laptop down a staircase. Aside from a dent in the corner, > everything survived without any problems. My previous (plastic) Dell > laptops > would have exploded on the first bounce. > > The only problem I have with the machine is with the PPC processor. The > processor itself is great, but it is very hard to find working codecs, wine > or other applications which will run under linux on this processor. > The i386 > platform sounds like a winner, but I would remove OSX in a heartbeat. I completely disagree. I like ubuntu, but for my main machine I use OS X. I didn't see the original post, but I think you (the OP) should use OS X for awhile and see if you like it. Frankly I like it better than ubuntu, however ubuntu (imo) is the best linux distro, I still wouldn't use it for everyday use, but that's because I'm in photography and design, and need all the adobe products, and getting them on via wine isn't exactly ideal. Point is don't let anyone decide what platform to use. You need to try it out and see what you like, regardless if it's windows, mac, or linux. peace, cameron -- AIM&Y!: desk003com From karistouf at yahoo.fr Sun Dec 17 07:54:30 2006 From: karistouf at yahoo.fr (christoph guillermet) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:54:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RE=20:=20Re:=20to=20Herv=C3=A9,=20unsuscribing?= In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612160303m538fe492la223e43d09108f09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <289211.92614.qm@web58208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> non non c est tres etonnant, il n y a rien qui ne diffère entre tes mails et ceux des autres... c est assez monstrueux... à>+ >> site internet schwartzpeter: http://karistouf.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 08:57:56 2006 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:57:56 +0100 Subject: XTreme Desktops on Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> Amichai Rotman a écrit : > Hi guys, > > I came across this site: > > http://www.xtremedesktops.com > > And wondered if theres a way to make something like that for GNU/Linux / > Ubuntu... > > Thanks! > Amichai Rotman Hi, I tried it and I don't get the use Oô. What part of that will be usefull to you on linux ? From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun Dec 17 10:22:59 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:22:59 +0200 Subject: XTreme Desktops on Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> References: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> Message-ID: I meant - a package i can download that will change the Ubuntu Desktop (say, Gnome) to an interactive flash -based desktop related to a specific theme / topic. For instance: I came across it regarding the new Director's cut version of Alien (the firs original movie from 1979). The Xtreme Desktop for that movie would keep me inform on the dates it's supposed to hit a theatre near me and give me access to online content (like trailers and clips from the movie), right from the desktop in flash. Only thing is it's a Window$ executable which will not work, obviously, under Linux... Thanks, On 12/17/06, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Amichai Rotman a écrit : > > Hi guys, > > > > I came across this site: > > > > http://www.xtremedesktops.com > > > > And wondered if theres a way to make something like that for GNU/Linux / > > Ubuntu... > > > > Thanks! > > Amichai Rotman > > Hi, > > I tried it and I don't get the use Oô. What part of that will be usefull > to you on linux ? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. 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In-Reply-To: References: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612170231t7d078428td85583d8e40363e0@mail.gmail.com> On 17/12/06, Amichai Rotman wrote: > I meant - a package i can download that will change the Ubuntu Desktop (say, > Gnome) to an interactive flash -based desktop related to a specific theme / > topic. > > For instance: I came across it regarding the new Director's cut version of > Alien (the firs original movie from 1979). The Xtreme Desktop > for that movie would keep me inform on the dates it's supposed to hit a > theatre near me and give me access to online content (like trailers and > clips from the movie), right from the desktop in flash. > > Only thing is it's a Window$ executable which will not work, obviously, > under Linux... > > Thanks, > Windows executables run under wine, but as this is desktop integration, I doubt that it will work the way you expect it to. What's wrong with going to a website for the information that you need? If you want it pushed at you instead of pulling it yourself, then you can subscribe to an rss feed. Need I start a discussion regarding the security implications of things like this? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xss.html http://song-lirics.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 10:33:33 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:33:33 +0200 Subject: XTreme Desktops on Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612170233n12f93197u9eb09041fc35a076@mail.gmail.com> Though, I might add that you should look at SuperKaramba. It might do what you want. http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_source.html http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_router.html From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sun Dec 17 11:28:58 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:28:58 -0700 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> Message-ID: Chris Rohde spake thusly on 12/16/2006 06:55 PM: > Heya All, > So, I've recently noticed that in both Firefox and Flock I can only get > maybe 2 or 3 seconds worth of video playback, mostly in youtube videos. > Any idea why? I see the bar keep loading, but can't figure out why it > stops playing there. Well in the case of YouTube (and an ever expanding list of sites with video) they utilize Flash. And the current version of Flash for Linux is woefully out of date. Rumor has it this will be corrected in a month or so. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 17 14:02:23 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:02:23 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Joel Bryan Juliano" wrote: > You can replace /usr/share/icons/[Tango|gnome]/scalable/start-here.svg > with your own logo. Oh thanks, that worked a treat !! :o) Only problem is that it requires an SVG icon, it fails to load PNG ones. So now on to the next problem: how to convert a PNG icon to SVG... if at all possible ? If anyone has an SVG version of the Gnome foot... -- Vince From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 17 14:45:56 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:45:56 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Only problem is that it requires an SVG icon, it fails to load PNG ones. > So now on to the next problem: how to convert a PNG icon to SVG... if at all possible ? > If anyone has an SVG version of the Gnome foot... Problem fixed ! I have been hearing for quite some time about "Inkscape", a vector drawing program. I installed it, fiddled with it for a few minutes, and it was perfectly capable of making a nice SVG icon out of the PNG Gnome foot icon, lovely, I am fully sorted now ! :o) -- Vince, happy happy... From pspotts at alum.mit.edu Sun Dec 17 15:00:32 2006 From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:00:32 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <1166367632.30017.13.camel@pspotts> Or, you could try this... http://www.fileformat.info/convert/image/svg2raster.htm Pete -- Peter N. Spotts | Science reporter The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston, MA 02115 USA Office: 617-450-2449 | Office-in-home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts at alum.mit.edu | Amateur radio call: KC1JB www.csmonitor.com | www.peterspotts.net From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Dec 17 15:03:08 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:03:08 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061218020308.a8e293ce.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:02:23 +0100 Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Only problem is that it requires an SVG icon, it fails to load PNG ones. > So now on to the next problem: how to convert a PNG icon to SVG... if at all possible ? I think you can use inkscape to convert png to svg - at least, "Save As" from a .png opened in Inkscape seems to save as either "inkscape svg" or "plain svg" whether this works well for icons, I don't know as I haven't tried it :) I saw no complaints from inkscape when I saved as either format though ... Peter From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Sun Dec 17 15:04:17 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:04:17 +1100 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061218020417.adf3fb9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:45:56 +0100 Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > So now on to the next problem: how to convert a PNG icon to SVG... if at all possible ? > > If anyone has an SVG version of the Gnome foot... > > Problem fixed ! > > I have been hearing for quite some time about "Inkscape", a vector > drawing program. You beat me to it :) Peter From lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl Sun Dec 17 15:46:41 2006 From: lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl (Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:41 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo Message-ID: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> I use several external repositories in my Ubuntu installation. How can i get a list of packages that i installed from repo x? Is that possible with apt or aptitude? Regards, Jeroen From li.beinan at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 16:12:41 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (beinan li) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:12:41 -0500 Subject: weird! harddrive busy all the time! Message-ID: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> Machine: AMD 64 OS: kubuntu 6.06 x86 Syndrome: Ever since logged in, the harddrive seems to be undergoing a lot of activities even though I'm running just firefox, kate, gaim, and terminal. Looking at the KSystemLog, I got these suspicious messages: 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received. 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. 12/17/2006 11:10:36 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 12/17/2006 11:10:40 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 12/17/2006 11:10:51 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 12/17/2006 11:11:05 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 12/17/2006 11:11:17 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 12/17/2006 11:11:32 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 12/17/2006 11:11:37 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received. Any ideas as to how i'm gonna solve this? 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In-Reply-To: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> References: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166374042.3114.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Am Sonntag, den 17.12.2006, 11:12 -0500 schrieb beinan li: > Machine: AMD 64 > OS: kubuntu 6.06 x86 > Syndrome: > Ever since logged in, the harddrive seems to be undergoing a lot of > activities > even though I'm running just firefox, kate, gaim, and terminal. > Looking at the KSystemLog, I got these suspicious messages: > 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS > received. > > 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No working > leases in persistent database - sleeping. > > 12/17/2006 11:10:36 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 > > 12/17/2006 11:10:40 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 > > 12/17/2006 11:10:51 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:05 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:17 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:32 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on > eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:37 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS > received. > > > Any ideas as to how i'm gonna solve this? > Thanks! > > -- > > Beinan Your box is configured for dhcp and is not getting a lease. So.. if you are using dhcp make sure your box can see the dhcp server (it might be your adsl router, if you have one). If it doesn't use dhcp, configure a static ip address. From li.beinan at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 16:55:01 2006 From: li.beinan at gmail.com (Beinan Li) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:55:01 -0500 Subject: weird! harddrive busy all the time! In-Reply-To: <1166374042.3114.2.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> <1166374042.3114.2.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <45857665.7000002@gmail.com> Thanks! I know I'm using an ADSL, and I'm able to get online. Do I have to go to pppoeconf to setup something? And MOST IMPORTANTLY, is this the source of my harddrive problem????? Thank you! Beinan nodata wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 17.12.2006, 11:12 -0500 schrieb beinan li: > >> Machine: AMD 64 >> OS: kubuntu 6.06 x86 >> Syndrome: >> Ever since logged in, the harddrive seems to be undergoing a lot of >> activities >> even though I'm running just firefox, kate, gaim, and terminal. >> Looking at the KSystemLog, I got these suspicious messages: >> 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS >> received. >> >> 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No working >> leases in persistent database - sleeping. >> >> 12/17/2006 11:10:36 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:10:40 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:10:51 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:11:05 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:11:17 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:11:32 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on >> eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 >> >> 12/17/2006 11:11:37 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS >> received. >> >> >> Any ideas as to how i'm gonna solve this? >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> >> Beinan >> > > Your box is configured for dhcp and is not getting a lease. > So.. if you are using dhcp make sure your box can see the dhcp server > (it might be your adsl router, if you have one). > If it doesn't use dhcp, configure a static ip address. > > > From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 17 17:03:22 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:03:22 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu icon/logo in the gnome panel: how to change it ? In-Reply-To: <20061218020417.adf3fb9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> References: <20061217023202.54278c1a.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217150223.b516f054.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061217154556.bde1c14e.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061218020417.adf3fb9c.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20061217180322.5fe208fe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Peter Garrett wrote: > You beat me to it :) Yeah, I improvised with Inkscape. It's easy: 1) Create a new "project", it gives you a special template for 48x48 SVG icons, how practical ! :-) 2) Import the PNG icon 3) Merge the PNG to the SVG (I got that after a while getting bored of saving the SVG and seeing nothing but a blank icon ! ;-) 4) Save to "plain SVG" (default) 5) enjoy :o))) Long live Inkscape and all these marvelous quality OSS projects ! :o) -- Vince From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sun Dec 17 17:42:46 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:42:46 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? Message-ID: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. I mean 100% usage if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... Thanks ++ Rich From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 17:49:44 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:49:44 +0100 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > I mean 100% usage > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... /me did a long time ago. The advantages: the GMail's spam filter is good, the built-in search engine is awesome, the quota is huge, I can read my e-mail from anywhere in the world (even from my cell phone), labeling mails is much more useful than using folders, you can apply filters, you have integrated IM, and so on. The disadvantages: you get ads, you leave your e-mail in hands of a third-party, if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, and so on. From oskee.i at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 17:57:09 2006 From: oskee.i at gmail.com (E. Hoon Shim) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:57:09 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458584F5.4020208@gmail.com> I use both, I have Thunderbird download copies of the emails from my gmail account, between the Thunderbird spamfilter and gmail's filter, I get maybe one spam/scam a month. ed Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > >> Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop >> Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. >> >> I mean 100% usage >> if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... >> and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, >> and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... >> > > /me did a long time ago. > > The advantages: the GMail's spam filter is good, the built-in search > engine is awesome, the quota is huge, I can read my e-mail from > anywhere in the world (even from my cell phone), labeling mails is > much more useful than using folders, you can apply filters, you have > integrated IM, and so on. > > The disadvantages: you get ads, you leave your e-mail in hands of a > third-party, if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, > and so on. > > From luca76 at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 18:00:14 2006 From: luca76 at gmail.com (Luca Manganelli) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:00:14 +0100 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/17/06, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > The disadvantages: you get ads You get ads in EVERY free email services. But GMail doesn't ATTACH any ads in your outgoing email. > you leave your e-mail in hands of third-party not only Google. Every email provider... > if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, > and so on. read above. From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 17 18:00:50 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:00:50 +0100 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Richard wrote: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, I started using a Gmail account recently. Main advantage over my ISP ? My ISP was regularly taken over by other ISP's, forcing all users to change the domain name of their e-mail addresses to suit the name of the new ISP ! It's such a nightmare to change address that I got real angry about it. So I chose to use Gmail as it is ISP independent, and is likely to still be called "@gmail.com" in 10 years. > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... I don't use thunderbird (never did), but using gmail doesn't mean you have to use a web browser ! One of the reason I chose Gmail is beause it allows POP&SMTP access, meaning I can send and receive mail from within my e-mail client of choice (thunderbird if you wish, or whatever client you fancy). As for reliability, it has been reliable so far (only 3 month of use so far, and not that many e-mails, though). The only downside I found, is that the POP server of my ISP replies instantly, whereas the one of Gmail always takes a few seconds, mayber because the server is probably at the other en f the world from me (Google HQ being on the west coast of the USA if I am right, and me being in France/Europe), although IIRC I did specify that I was in Europe when I created the acount, so was hoping to be handled by a local/responsive server... At any rate, just create an account (you may need an invite, just ask), configure your favorite e-mail client to access Gmail via pop, and see for yourself how it goes. You have nothing to lose. -- Vince From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 18:01:39 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:01:39 +0000 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > I mean 100% usage > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... I have, for a couple of years now. The main advantage for me is that it's completely cross-platform. I can read my email at work, on Windows, on my dual-boot (XP/Edgy) laptop or the iMac or two Ubuntu computers I have at home. I can start a message at work, edit a bit on my laptop, and finish and send it on the iMac. I also use the searching a lot and Google's browser-based instant messaging (not GoogleTalk) is one of the few that still work through my employer's firewall. The main disadvantage is off-line use. I can't go through my email on the Eurostar, traveling between London and Brussels or Paris (which I do a lot). I can use my mobile phone, but that's really only useful for reading, not replying or composing. I don't consider the ads to be a disadvantage because I never even notice them (sh!). Once in a while (less often than in the past), gmail goes down and I lose access. That happens for an hour or less every several months now. That's more reliable than my previous ISP's email account. -Eamonn From tony.kruse at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 18:05:12 2006 From: tony.kruse at gmail.com (Tony K.) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:05:12 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <52fe24490612171005g21e13736y7084afe6c95a2ccc@mail.gmail.com> /me also I totally agree with the remarks below. You can access your gmail account via POP and use Thunderbird as a localized backup. I have been using it for more than 2 years now, receive several hundred emails a day, and I am at about 62% of my storage quota. I will probably have to delete some eventually, like my mailing lists. On 12/17/06, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > /me did a long time ago. > > The advantages: the GMail's spam filter is good, the built-in search > engine is awesome, the quota is huge, I can read my e-mail from > anywhere in the world (even from my cell phone), labeling mails is > much more useful than using folders, you can apply filters, you have > integrated IM, and so on. > > The disadvantages: you get ads, you leave your e-mail in hands of a > third-party, if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, > and so on. > From wade at wadesmart.com Sun Dec 17 18:06:21 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:06:21 -0600 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166378781.6770.90.camel@wadesmart> 12172006 1206 GMT-6 Ive never seen the ads. Wade On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:49 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > > > I mean 100% usage > > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > /me did a long time ago. > > The advantages: the GMail's spam filter is good, the built-in search > engine is awesome, the quota is huge, I can read my e-mail from > anywhere in the world (even from my cell phone), labeling mails is > much more useful than using folders, you can apply filters, you have > integrated IM, and so on. > > The disadvantages: you get ads, you leave your e-mail in hands of a > third-party, if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, > and so on. > From bres_sidhe at drouland.com Sun Dec 17 18:21:24 2006 From: bres_sidhe at drouland.com (Eohaid Bres McElatha) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:21:24 +0300 Subject: support AverTV Message-ID: <200612172121.32523.bres_sidhe@drouland.com> Hi, What about support AverMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM Cardbus ? -- Best regards, Eohaid "Bres Sidhe" McElatha Drou Land: The Cross-Roads Sun Dec 17 21:20:27 MSK 2006 E-Mail: bres_sidhe at drouland.com WWW: http://www.drouland.com ICQ: 48681586 Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) with kernel 2.6.17-10-generic -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chris On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:01 +0000, Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > > > I mean 100% usage > > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > I have, for a couple of years now. The main advantage for me is that > it's completely cross-platform. I can read my email at work, on > Windows, on my dual-boot (XP/Edgy) laptop or the iMac or two Ubuntu > computers I have at home. I can start a message at work, edit a bit on > my laptop, and finish and send it on the iMac. I also use the > searching a lot and Google's browser-based instant messaging (not > GoogleTalk) is one of the few that still work through my employer's > firewall. > > The main disadvantage is off-line use. I can't go through my email on > the Eurostar, traveling between London and Brussels or Paris (which I > do a lot). I can use my mobile phone, but that's really only useful > for reading, not replying or composing. I don't consider the ads to be > a disadvantage because I never even notice them (sh!). Once in a while > (less often than in the past), gmail goes down and I lose access. That > happens for an hour or less every several months now. That's more > reliable than my previous ISP's email account. > > -Eamonn > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 19:28:04 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:28:04 -0600 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <1166378781.6770.90.camel@wadesmart> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> <1166378781.6770.90.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612171128r44514bc7i4b5341da458ef4d4@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Wade Smart wrote: > 12172006 1206 GMT-6 > > Ive never seen the ads. They're the AdSense ads down the right side of each page. They're completely unobtrusive. There are no banners, no pop-ups, nothing of that nature. I use Gmail exclusively and I've never looked back. -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 17 20:59:01 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:59:01 -0600 Subject: Emacs installation Message-ID: <4585AF95.7070900@weblore.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On a new machine, I've just installed Ubuntu Dapper. One of the packages I added was emacs 2.1 I know that on a previous ubuntu install, emacs highlighted an area when I selected it by -space. On the install I have now, I look for the mark set and just have to take it on faith that the area is selected as I don't get the highligh. This tells me that I've omitted something (either software or a step) in the emacs setup. Who can tell me what that might be? Thanks in advance -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFha+VjeziQOokQnARAsk4AJ9tL237c2GqxzpVHewxDFES3hIXbQCfd/B4 Olmw4ZS0UPzPRCy0nqEV3WQ= =OHt7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 21:20:24 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:20:24 +0000 Subject: Emacs installation In-Reply-To: <4585AF95.7070900@weblore.com> References: <4585AF95.7070900@weblore.com> Message-ID: On 12/17/06, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On a new machine, I've just installed Ubuntu Dapper. One of the packages > I added was emacs 2.1 > > I know that on a previous ubuntu install, emacs highlighted an area when > I selected it by -space. On the install I have now, I look for the > mark set and just have to take it on faith that the area is selected as > I don't get the highligh. > > This tells me that I've omitted something (either software or a step) in > the emacs setup. > > Who can tell me what that might be? > Thanks in advance I'm using emacs 22, not 21, but the simplest way is to use the menus and choose Options/Active Region Highlighting and then Options/Save Options, which will write the changes to your ~/.emacs file. I think, if I remember correctly, it's (transient-write-mode t) -Eamonn From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 21:22:09 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:22:09 +0000 Subject: Emacs installation In-Reply-To: References: <4585AF95.7070900@weblore.com> Message-ID: On 12/17/06, Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > On 12/17/06, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On a new machine, I've just installed Ubuntu Dapper. One of the packages > > I added was emacs 2.1 > > > > I know that on a previous ubuntu install, emacs highlighted an area when > > I selected it by -space. On the install I have now, I look for the > > mark set and just have to take it on faith that the area is selected as > > I don't get the highligh. > > > > This tells me that I've omitted something (either software or a step) in > > the emacs setup. > > > > Who can tell me what that might be? > > Thanks in advance > > I'm using emacs 22, not 21, but the simplest way is to use the menus > and choose Options/Active Region Highlighting and then Options/Save > Options, which will write the changes to your ~/.emacs file. I think, > if I remember correctly, it's (transient-write-mode t) Sorry, it's (transient-mark-mode t) -Eamonn From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 17 19:44:26 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:44:26 +0000 Subject: Problem ndiswrapper with a belkin 802.11g In-Reply-To: <1166313422.5131.7.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> References: <20061216233742.11164.10051.reportbug@GCV> <1166313422.5131.7.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> Message-ID: <1166384666.17388.4.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 00:57 +0100, Trevor Nye wrote: > I have just been through the process of installing my wifi card a BELKIN > 802.11g, using the belkin install drivers from the windows install CD, > via ndiswrapper. > > When I completed the install the card has its connected to the PC light > on ok. When I start up the system the ethernet light flashes and appears > to talk to the base a belkin unit as well. > > On my machine I have dual boot with windozh XP installed so I know the > key and I know that the connection is good. > > Can anyone help me please. > > Regards in advance > > What exactly is the problem? It sounds like it is functioning correctly, so maybe you don't know how to get it to connect. Best thing I can say without more information is that you open up the terminal and run: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome Then restart the computer. After logging in again you should have a new icon in the top-right of your screen. Have a fiddle with it and see if you can get the network working. From dragffy at yandex.ru Sun Dec 17 21:51:54 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:51:54 +0000 Subject: Print to PDF - where did the PDF get saved? Message-ID: <1166392314.17388.7.camel@worldventures> Used the instructions for Dapper on my Edgy install to get printing to PDF working like so: sudo aptitude install cups-pdf (You can use synaptic to install cups-pdf too if you like) sudo chmod +s /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf In Gnome: System > Administration > Printing New Printer Local Printer & Use A Detected Printer click on PDF Printer Choose “Generic” as the manufacturer Choose “postscript color printer rev3b” Leave the driver set to “Standard (suggested)” Question is, the PDFs don't seem to be dumped in to ~/PDF anymore... Regards Gabe From clarkcox3 at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 22:10:53 2006 From: clarkcox3 at gmail.com (Clark S. Cox III) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:10:53 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luca Manganelli wrote: > On 12/17/06, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: >> The disadvantages: you get ads > > You get ads in EVERY free email services. But GMail doesn't ATTACH any > ads in your outgoing email. Yes, this is an important distinction that many people don't initially realize. - -- Clark S. Cox III clarkcox3 at gmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhcBtXkPInUR5a8wRAvPmAKCrzEvk3WIYjw0DT4/du7jHdtPhKQCglH30 w7iht0fuM3kfqMQzBoFgUBo= =t2c+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 17 22:18:06 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:18:06 -0600 Subject: Emacs installation In-Reply-To: References: <4585AF95.7070900@weblore.com> Message-ID: <4585C21E.50708@weblore.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > I'm using emacs 22, not 21, but the simplest way is to use the menus > and choose Options/Active Region Highlighting and then Options/Save > Options, which will write the changes to your ~/.emacs file. I think, > if I remember correctly, it's (transient-write-mode t) > > -Eamonn > I hate it when I forget the obvious. While I'm sure I've seen it preconfigured before, that doesn't excuse my forgetting that after installation I can reconfigure to my heart's content. Thanks for the help - and please forgive my lapse into senility. - ---Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhcIdjeziQOokQnARAhVgAJ4jLoTF6g4gdkjZp2XMzbvd5M6LfgCfXPUX nzJ2PzQjCksNCHbFwPYKp5s= =c+pJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 23:09:25 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:09:25 -0600 Subject: Print to PDF - where did the PDF get saved? In-Reply-To: <1166392314.17388.7.camel@worldventures> References: <1166392314.17388.7.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612171509h4cf36959sa09fdf3a0e7e6645@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > Question is, the PDFs don't seem to be dumped in to ~/PDF anymore... What does: $ find $HOME -name \*.pdf -print tell you? -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 23:11:37 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:11:37 -0600 Subject: weird! harddrive busy all the time! In-Reply-To: <45857665.7000002@gmail.com> References: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> <1166374042.3114.2.camel@sb-home.lan> <45857665.7000002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612171511s4a484d64j4a1d3b3cbbc8a860@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Beinan Li wrote: > > And MOST IMPORTANTLY, is this the source of my > harddrive problem????? Disable DHCP and find out for yourself. ;-) -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sun Dec 17 23:27:55 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:27:55 +0100 Subject: Problem ndiswrapper with a belkin 802.11g In-Reply-To: <1166384666.17388.4.camel@worldventures> References: <20061216233742.11164.10051.reportbug@GCV> <1166313422.5131.7.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> <1166384666.17388.4.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1166398075.4922.8.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> I have installed the network-manager-gnome, but I already have used the other network tools to the same end result of the new manager. The problem is, the belkin card (eth1) is talking to the router and receiving a DHCP address. But when I try to connect to the net I do not get out to the ether. On the same machine I have an ethernet cable connect eth0 in this case no problems at all with a connection. I have attached a couple of extracts from my endeavours. The one thing I do not understand is the reference to BCM4306 when I do lswh. 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The following is the last few lines of output as the program exited... /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning: "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning: "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined In file included from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:20, from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:49: /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:60: error: conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’ include/linux/poll.h:62: error: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was here /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:145: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:149: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module. From e_eagle at charter.net Mon Dec 18 00:10:00 2006 From: e_eagle at charter.net (e_eagle at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:10:00 -0800 Subject: The Difference Message-ID: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> UBUNTU! What the difference or what do I get if I go KUBUNTU instead of UBUNTU? Eldon e_eagle at charter.net From electricalsciences at adelphia.net Mon Dec 18 00:24:56 2006 From: electricalsciences at adelphia.net (Roby) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:24:56 -0500 Subject: The Difference References: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> Message-ID: e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > UBUNTU! > > What the difference or what do I get if I go KUBUNTU instead of UBUNTU? > > Eldon > e_eagle at charter.net You get a "K" ... and the KDE desktop environment too. From ljpino at grm.net Sun Dec 17 18:44:26 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:44:26 -0600 Subject: The Difference In-Reply-To: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> References: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> Message-ID: <4585900A.2040500@grm.net> e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > UBUNTU! > > What the difference or what do I get if I go KUBUNTU instead of UBUNTU? > > Eldon > e_eagle at charter.net > > You get different integrated apps, different default look and behavior. Or, you could do what some have done and install both if you have the room. The main difference is the KDE window mangler. You may want to visit these sites to see differences. KDE screenshots http://www.kde.org/screenshots/ Gnome screenshots http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/ KDE apps http://kde-apps.org/ Gnome apps http://www.gnomefiles.org/ Keep in mind that you can run KDE apps in Ubuntu, and Gnome apps in Kubuntu. Synaptic is perfectly capable of installing (for example) Amarok and whatever dependencies it has in Ubuntu even though it is a Kubuntu app. My advice is to try them both, if possible. ~Lorin From dhidik at ptmsa.co.id Mon Dec 18 01:11:34 2006 From: dhidik at ptmsa.co.id (dhidik) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:11:34 +0700 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <4585EAC6.60807@ptmsa.co.id> From lemsx1 at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 01:28:56 2006 From: lemsx1 at gmail.com (Luis) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:28:56 -0500 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: Get the latest vmware workstation (5.5.3). That works for me. On 12/17/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Running the installation script for this, have linux-headers-386 and > build-essential installed. Worked perfectly on Dapper but on Edgy it > hits a snag. I'm hoping someone would be able to suggest what exactly I > need to do to get passed it. The following is the last few lines of > output as the program exited... -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi *NIX Guru "Feliz el hombre que ha hallado sabiduria y el hombre que consigue discernimiento, porque el tenerla como ganancia es mejor que tener la plata como ganancia; y el tenerla como producto, [mejor] que el oro mismo" (Prov 3:13-14). From eqisow at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 01:39:50 2006 From: eqisow at gmail.com (Justin) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:39:50 -0500 Subject: The Difference In-Reply-To: <4585900A.2040500@grm.net> References: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> <4585900A.2040500@grm.net> Message-ID: "Keep in mind that you can run KDE apps in Ubuntu, and Gnome apps in Kubuntu." This is true, but KDE does a much better job integrating Gnome apps (visually) that Gnome does for KDE apps. On 12/17/06, Lorin Pino wrote: > > e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > > UBUNTU! > > > > What the difference or what do I get if I go KUBUNTU instead of UBUNTU? > > > > Eldon > > e_eagle at charter.net > > > > > You get different integrated apps, different default look and behavior. > Or, you could do what some have done and install both if you have the > room. The main difference is the KDE window mangler. You may want to > visit these sites to see differences. > > KDE screenshots > http://www.kde.org/screenshots/ > Gnome screenshots > http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/ > KDE apps > http://kde-apps.org/ > Gnome apps > http://www.gnomefiles.org/ > > Keep in mind that you can run KDE apps in Ubuntu, and Gnome apps in > Kubuntu. Synaptic is perfectly capable of installing (for example) > Amarok and whatever dependencies it has in Ubuntu even though it is a > Kubuntu app. > > My advice is to try them both, if possible. > ~Lorin > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tonyyarusso at earthlink.net Mon Dec 18 01:40:10 2006 From: tonyyarusso at earthlink.net (Anthony Yarusso) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:40:10 -0500 Subject: The Difference In-Reply-To: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> References: <115439042.1166400600193.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> Message-ID: <4585F17A.4090702@earthlink.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 e_eagle at charter.net wrote: > UBUNTU! > > What the difference or what do I get if I go KUBUNTU instead of UBUNTU? > > Eldon > e_eagle at charter.net > Roby's response is pretty much right on - there's little significant difference. It's a different graphical environment, with different default applications and such, but accomplishing the same purpose. Most will say that it is basically a matter of preference. I recommend checking out the screenshots at osdir.com, or even better, trying both on Live CDs, and just deciding which you like the feel of better. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFhfF66iO+5ByUi/QRArjsAJ4oKsVt0rq8ve5spHiURgSE6iKxVQCgkXkf tvILjujfsVQQWzNETHdfGnA= =GPXB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon Dec 18 01:42:48 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:42:48 -0500 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Sunday 17 December 2006 6:54 pm, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Running the installation script for this, have linux-headers-386 and > build-essential installed. Worked perfectly on Dapper but on Edgy it > hits a snag. I'm hoping someone would be able to suggest what exactly I > need to do to get passed it. The following is the last few lines of > output as the program exited... > > > > > /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning: > "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined > /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning: > "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined > In file included from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:20, > from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:49: > /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:60: error: > conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’ > include/linux/poll.h:62: error: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ > was here > /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:145: warning: > initialization from incompatible pointer type > /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:149: warning: > initialization from incompatible pointer type > make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic' > make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 > make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' > Unable to build the vmmon module. Make sure you have the linux-source package for your kernel installed. Also run vmware-config.pl as root (sudo). Paul From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Mon Dec 18 02:32:01 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: Message-ID: Eberhard Roloff gmx.de> writes: > David Armour wrote: > > Hello list! > > They Thought It Would Never Happen Dept.: > > Incredibly, my 30G hard drive has less than 1G remaining free space! > > As always, any responses greatly appreciated. > > I would try to tackle this from the bottom up. > df -h Thank you for your response. I believe I followed the install ins- tructions when I initially created a swap and a large root parti- tion, but it would certainly not be the first time I have misunder- stood directions. In any case, df -h produces: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 36G 34G 400M 99% / varrun 237M 92K 236M 1% /var/run varlock 237M 4.0K 237M 1% /var/lock procbususb 10M 104K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb udev 10M 104K 9.9M 2% /dev devshm 237M 0 237M 0% /dev/shm lrm 237M 18M 219M 8% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-\ 386/volatile ... and as you mention in a subsequent message in this thread, "that means that you are running out of space in / ;-)" heh. no kidding. see below. running: sudo du -h --max-depth=1 / ...produces: 48K /lost+found 43M /etc 16K /media 26G /var 774M /lib 3.6G /usr 4.6M /bin 87M /boot 216K /dev 2.7G /home 4.0K /mnt du: `/proc/4837/task': No such file or directory du: `/proc/4837/fd': No such file or directory 484M /proc 3.0M /root 9.2M /sbin 100K /tmp 0 /sys 4.0K /srv 120M /opt 4.0K /initrd 4.0K /debootstrap 34G / sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /var 210M /var/lib 118M /var/cache 6.7M /var/backups 4.0K /var/local 4.0K /var/lock 9.4M /var/log 92K /var/run 1.1M /var/spool 1.7M /var/tmp 4.0K /var/opt 272K /var/mail 280K /var/games 26G /var/backup 4.0K /var/crash 27G /var ... something doesn't seem to add up, and I'm wondering what I should look for? I thought I'd seen an item in one of the ubuntu guides (official/unof- ficial) that explained how to migrate (?) stuff to a /home partition but a quick look this afternoon hasn't turned it up. Thanks again, and to everyone else who has participated so far. Sorry for the delay in my own participation; we've been experiencing atypical power-outages due to unusual weather patterns here on the left coast of Canada. Edgy's been great, apart from the full / partition! From lists at xdna.net Mon Dec 18 03:33:06 2006 From: lists at xdna.net (Cameron Hutchison) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:33:06 +1100 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? References: Message-ID: <1166412786.0@imladris> David Armour wrote: >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 / ...produces: >26G /var >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /var >26G /var/backup >... something doesn't seem to add up, and I'm wondering what I should >look for? That seems to add up, roughly. Whats in your /var/backup directory that you can delete? From ivyharry at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 04:21:08 2006 From: ivyharry at gmail.com (Qiuli Han) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:21:08 -0500 Subject: Touch screen suppot? Message-ID: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks I am trying to install ubuntu on a table PC but unfortunately the touch screen is not working and I have to use an USB keyboard so i can type is there any way i can resolve this? thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amichai at iglu.org.il Mon Dec 18 06:35:42 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:35:42 +0200 Subject: Touch screen suppot? In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I know it won't be news to you but: http://www.j2eegeek.com/blog/2006/02/05/i-love-the-tablet-pc-and-ubuntu-runs-on-it/ On 12/18/06, Qiuli Han wrote: > > Hi folks > > I am trying to install ubuntu on a table PC > but unfortunately the touch screen is not working and I have to use an USB > keyboard so i can type > is there any way i can resolve this? > > thanks > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- :====================================================:. 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In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi again, You might try the guides in the WiKi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupGIMP https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpenDapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpenBreezy HTH! On 12/18/06, Qiuli Han wrote: > > Hi folks > > I am trying to install ubuntu on a table PC > but unfortunately the touch screen is not working and I have to use an USB > keyboard so i can type > is there any way i can resolve this? > > thanks > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -- :====================================================:. 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References: <1166412786.0@imladris> Message-ID: hello Cameron Thanks for your reply. > > David Armour wrote: > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 / ...produces: > > >26G /var > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /var > > >26G /var/backup > > >... something doesn't seem to add up, and I'm wondering what I should > >look for? > > That seems to add up, roughly. Whats in your /var/backup directory that > you can delete? > This is one of those experiences where I wonder if I could register for legally blind? And here's what's in there (heavily snipped!): 2006-04-21_15.14.00.588810.workhorse2.ful 2006-04-22_00.00.02.999397.workhorse2.inc 2006-04-23_00.00.02.663896.workhorse2.inc 2006-04-24_00.00.02.308743.workhorse2.inc 2006-04-25_00.00.11.886279.workhorse2.inc 2006-04-26_00.00.05.449434.workhorse2.inc 2006-04-27_00.00.03.134969.workhorse2.inc ... 2006-12-10_00.00.12.872727.workhorse2.inc 2006-12-11_00.00.12.252552.workhorse2.ful 2006-12-12_00.00.14.201826.workhorse2.inc 2006-12-13_00.00.11.748152.workhorse2.inc 2006-12-14_00.00.10.465844.workhorse2.inc 2006-12-15_00.00.12.046713.workhorse2.inc 2006-12-17_00.00.11.441749.workhorse2.inc ... so I'm supposing pretty much all of it. And I'm also supposing that I only began noticing it when the size of the automated backups started to snowball in size? In fact, I may not have noticed it in ti... From linuxliste at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 07:25:41 2006 From: linuxliste at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmVtemkgQUtZw5xa?=) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:25:41 +0200 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> Hello, can you vmware-server ? I think vmware-server is better than vmware workstation and it is free :) can you look at this http://www.vmware.com/products/server page ? VMware Server Experience Server Virtualization - Free! Good luck Remzi Paul Kaplan wrote: > On Sunday 17 December 2006 6:54 pm, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Running the installation script for this, have linux-headers-386 and >> build-essential installed. Worked perfectly on Dapper but on Edgy it >> hits a snag. I'm hoping someone would be able to suggest what exactly I >> need to do to get passed it. The following is the last few lines of >> output as the program exited... >> >> >> >> >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning: >> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning: >> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined >> In file included from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:20, >> from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:49: >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:60: error: >> conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’ >> include/linux/poll.h:62: error: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ >> was here >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:145: warning: >> initialization from incompatible pointer type >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:149: warning: >> initialization from incompatible pointer type >> make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 >> make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only] Error 2 >> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic' >> make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 >> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' >> Unable to build the vmmon module. >> > > Make sure you have the linux-source package for your kernel installed. Also > run vmware-config.pl as root (sudo). > Paul > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: server_boxshot2_05.gif Type: image/gif Size: 11967 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: download_now_05.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1736 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rama at co.zahav.net.il Mon Dec 18 08:03:34 2006 From: rama at co.zahav.net.il (Ram Akuka) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:03:34 +0200 Subject: weird! harddrive busy all the time! Message-ID: <6F2DB4B43B9EAD4FA4659FA701F45ADB0528591E@IGMAIL.InetGold> maybe , all your physical memory in use ,and you using swap try to send your 'free' output . -- Ram -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Christofer C. Bell Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:12 AM To: li.beinan at gmail.com; Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions Subject: Re: weird! harddrive busy all the time! On 12/17/06, Beinan Li wrote: > > And MOST IMPORTANTLY, is this the source of my > harddrive problem????? Disable DHCP and find out for yourself. ;-) -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 08:09:11 2006 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:09:11 +0100 Subject: Print to PDF - where did the PDF get saved? In-Reply-To: <1166392314.17388.7.camel@worldventures> References: <1166392314.17388.7.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <45864CA7.8070702@gmail.com> Hi Gabriel Gabriel Dragffy schrieb: > [snip] > > Question is, the PDFs don't seem to be dumped in to ~/PDF anymore... > You can specify where the 'printed' PDF's are saved: Just edit cups-pdf.conf in /etc/cups ( e.g. sudo gedit /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf ). In this file you'll find a line beginning with 'Out'. Now you just have to specify the location where you want the printed stuff to be saved... I use Out ${HOME}/Desktop for example... If you want the printed pages to be saved in ~/PDF, you have to edit the line so that it looks like: Out ${HOME}/PDF For this change to take effect I suggest that you have to restart the computer... HTH, Severin From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Dec 18 08:14:51 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:14:51 -0700 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> Richard spake thusly on 12/17/2006 10:42 AM: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > I mean 100% usage > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > Thanks ++ > Rich I'm always late to the party and always odd man out (but that's OK - since this is "late" it will be probably be ignored anyway). Nevertheless, I feel the urge to contribute my two cents. Gmail puts all the other web-based mail services (including the new Yahoo! Mail beta) to shame. It has the best and most clever features (as has been pointed out). So what's wrong with it? First off - mailing lists! For some reason (that only some "genius" at Google can grasp) Gmail does not include your messages in anything you send to a malling list. You won't see them. They don't show up. That doesn't mean they didn't get to the list,. Google just doesn't think you need to see them as long as everyone else does. This can be confusing to say the least. It's been brought to Google's attention on many occasions but they seem to think this "feature" is a keeper. Second - targeted advertising. If you do notice the ads you'll notice that sometimes they can be a bit creepy. How so? Well the subject of the ads pertains to the (possibly confidential) text in your email. Other than those two issues, they rock. As far issue #1 is concerned ,ever since I discovered gmane.org I it doesn't matter. I don't do mailing lists via "mail" anymore anyway. Usenet is more manageable and frees up space and clutter in your inbox/mail server/account. As for issue #2, it can be downright funny to see what AdSense comes up with at times. I don't really mind. I just don't use Gmail for anything overtly personal or confidential. Gmail is but one of a few options I have for email. Most of my email is handled by my own server with cc's to my Gmail account. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From ivyharry at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 08:39:33 2006 From: ivyharry at gmail.com (Qiuli Han) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:39:33 -0500 Subject: Touch screen suppot? In-Reply-To: References: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3f0436250612180039w4c3d730ctb7bdd008fd6eac16@mail.gmail.com> Thanks guys...seems it is a difficult task when you are dealing with some X server related config..... On 12/18/06, Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hi again, > > You might try the guides in the WiKi: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupGIMP > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpenDapper > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpenBreezy > > HTH! > > > On 12/18/06, Qiuli Han wrote: > > > > Hi folks > > > > I am trying to install ubuntu on a table PC > > but unfortunately the touch screen is not working and I have to use an > > USB keyboard so i can type > > is there any way i can resolve this? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > :====================================================:. > > Amichai Rotman > > UIN#: 6401746 > Registered Linux User#: 201192 [ http://counter.li.org/] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > -- > Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at > http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexandre.franke at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 10:08:39 2006 From: alexandre.franke at gmail.com (Alexandre Franke) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:08:39 +0100 Subject: Touch screen suppot? In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612180039w4c3d730ctb7bdd008fd6eac16@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f0436250612172021u78793152t3b0665fdb4fbdbc7@mail.gmail.com> <3f0436250612180039w4c3d730ctb7bdd008fd6eac16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/18/06, Qiuli Han wrote: > Thanks guys...seems it is a difficult task when you are dealing with some X > server related config.... I have a HP TC1100 and had Breezy running on it. Now it is running Dapper. Both were fresh installed, no upgrade. I can tell that getting my touch screen working under Dapper was far from difficult. Can you tell us the brand and model of yours ? Maybe this will help us to provide more help. -- Alexandre Franke GNU/Linux user #390077 From amichai at iglu.org.il Mon Dec 18 10:26:45 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:26:45 +0200 Subject: XTreme Desktops on Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612170233n12f93197u9eb09041fc35a076@mail.gmail.com> References: <45850694.8060406@gmail.com> <880dece00612170233n12f93197u9eb09041fc35a076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dotan, 1) It's nice yousee you on this list too ;-) 2) Thanks very much - that is *exactly* what I was looking for! Cheers, Amichai. On 12/17/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Though, I might add that you should look at SuperKaramba. It might do > what you want. > http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_source.html > http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_router.html > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. 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URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon Dec 18 10:45:30 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:45:30 -0500 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612180545.30506.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Monday 18 December 2006 2:25 am, Remzi AKYÜZ wrote: > Hello, > can you vmware-server ? > I think vmware-server is better than vmware workstation and it is free :) > can you look at this > http://www.vmware.com/products/server > page ? > > > VMware Server > > > > > > Experience Server Virtualization - Free! > There's also vmware-player which is available as a deb package for edgy thru one one of the repositories, but it doesn't allow you to create new vms; you can only open existing ones, and you can't change the virtual hardware configuration once created. Paul > > > > > Good luck > > Remzi > > Paul Kaplan wrote: > > On Sunday 17 December 2006 6:54 pm, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > >> Running the installation script for this, have linux-headers-386 and > >> build-essential installed. Worked perfectly on Dapper but on Edgy it > >> hits a snag. I'm hoping someone would be able to suggest what exactly I > >> need to do to get passed it. The following is the last few lines of > >> output as the program exited... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning: > >> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined > >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning: > >> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined > >> In file included from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:20, > >> from /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:49: > >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:60: error: > >> conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’ > >> include/linux/poll.h:62: error: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ > >> was here > >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:145: warning: > >> initialization from incompatible pointer type > >> /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:149: warning: > >> initialization from incompatible pointer type > >> make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 > >> make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only] Error 2 > >> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic' > >> make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 > >> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only' > >> Unable to build the vmmon module. > > > > Make sure you have the linux-source package for your kernel installed. > > Also run vmware-config.pl as root (sudo). > > Paul From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Dec 18 11:21:00 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:21:00 -0700 Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> Message-ID: Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof spake thusly on 12/17/2006 08:46 AM: > I use several external repositories in my Ubuntu installation. How can i > get a list of packages that i installed from repo x? Is that possible > with apt or aptitude? > > Regards, I've always wondered that myself. I'm sure there's some geeky regexp format one can use. But until I find out what that is, I use filters in Synaptic. I've got several to filter on "origin" of a package (e.g. "seveas.imbrandon.com"). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From derekmailbox at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 11:23:30 2006 From: derekmailbox at gmail.com (Derek) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:23:30 +0100 Subject: Skype SMS Message-ID: <159b320e0612180323g1ae3171dy303bd75b99f93a70@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I know that this is probably a Skype's forum question but I was just wondering if someone found out a way to send SMS through Skype in Ubuntu. It seems to be supported only in the windows version, isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My Xserver broke after Update of Linux Headers. Now i can't fix the missing fonts for the xserver through a console as shown under http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-a570197d15005a2c71cbb5e565114e2c04a573a3 because i just have blinking curser and does nothing when commands i typed in Would be nice if someone could help me, please. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen Osiozekhai Aliu _________________ EYECATCH-MEDIA Email: osio at eyecatch-media.de Tel.: 49 40 35564501 Mobil: 49 176 21252986 Skype: osioaliu www.eyecatch-media.de _________________________________________________________________ Haben Spinnen Ohren? Finden Sie es heraus – mit dem MSN Suche Superquiz via http://www.msn-superquiz.de Jetzt mitmachen und gewinnen! From mj3clark at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 14:42:29 2006 From: mj3clark at gmail.com (Matthew Clarke) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:42:29 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: Agree with all the comments I've read here. I switched about 6 months ago on my work account (i.e. major volume...) and have been very happy. I find I'm losing things less and keep up with the flow better... One point that I haven't seen anyone mention is the power of keyboard shortcuts. I deal with so many emails that I've gotten hooked on the speed that only keyboard shortcuts can offer. Typically this has been a major reason why I avoided web email systems for daily use. Gmail has fixed this! I only see a major speed boost when I turn on the keyboard shortcuts. This is actually make-or-break for me. Y to archive, R to reply, etc etc. It makes quick replies actually quick. Now, the only downside (interface-wise) is with attachments. In email readers I liked to copy and paste attachments into a message. Oh well, now I copy & paste the path to the file and use the file browser dialog. It's OK, but if gmail could use AJAX to do some drag&drop stuff--would be cool. Has anyone seen this type interface gadget on a webpage? Cheers, Matthew Clarke On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > I mean 100% usage > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > Thanks ++ > Rich > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Matthew Clarke From bob at bobsbits.net Mon Dec 18 14:58:04 2006 From: bob at bobsbits.net (Bob Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:58:04 -0500 Subject: run i386 on AMD64 ? In-Reply-To: <4568FCC3.3090901@mail.mcgill.ca> References: <4568FCC3.3090901@mail.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <4586AC7C.2010301@bobsbits.net> Thats what I do. I saw that there were problems with 64 and decided I didnt need any "extra" problems. I have had enough problems with unsupported video and wireless. bob Beinan Li wrote: > Hi, > > Got an AMD64 and installed the AMD64 dapper. > Unfortunately, a few problems such as the unavailable > flash player and the realplayer problem makes it > less of a functional system. > > I wonder whether I can run i386 dapper safely > on my AMD64 machine. > > Thanks. > > Beinan > From Herve at lucidia.net Mon Dec 18 15:18:32 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:18:32 -0200 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612180718y75e7e11wac520bd9c8df1c72@mail.gmail.com> And using my own e-mail name too (herve at lucidia dot net) Missing: signing/encryption Hervé. On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > I mean 100% usage > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > Thanks ++ > Rich > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From bob at bobsbits.net Mon Dec 18 15:20:39 2006 From: bob at bobsbits.net (Bob Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:20:39 -0500 Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> Message-ID: <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> Scott wrote: > Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof spake thusly on 12/17/2006 08:46 AM: >> I use several external repositories in my Ubuntu installation. How can i >> get a list of packages that i installed from repo x? Is that possible >> with apt or aptitude? >> >> Regards, > > I've always wondered that myself. I'm sure there's some geeky regexp > format one can use. > > But until I find out what that is, I use filters in Synaptic. I've got > several to filter on "origin" of a package (e.g. "seveas.imbrandon.com"). > > I just tried this: Find the repository with your browser for this line in sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe main restricted multiverse I went to: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ There you will find a file named Packages.bz2 Download this file and you find a list of all of the packages and their versions and descriptions bob From lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl Mon Dec 18 15:33:16 2006 From: lists at vandenieuwenhof.nl (Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:33:16 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> Message-ID: <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> Bob Davis schreef: > Scott wrote: >> Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof spake thusly on 12/17/2006 08:46 AM: >>> I use several external repositories in my Ubuntu installation. How can i >>> get a list of packages that i installed from repo x? Is that possible >>> with apt or aptitude? >>> >>> Regards, >> I've always wondered that myself. I'm sure there's some geeky regexp >> format one can use. >> >> But until I find out what that is, I use filters in Synaptic. I've got >> several to filter on "origin" of a package (e.g. "seveas.imbrandon.com"). >> >> > > > I just tried this: > > Find the repository with your browser > for this line in sources.list: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe main restricted multiverse > I went to: > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ > There you will find a file named Packages.bz2 > Download this file and you find a list of all of the packages and their versions and descriptions > > > bob > This may be a way to find out all the packages in the repo, but a) it doesn't show me the packages i've installed from that repo, and b) is a whole lot of work for something that should/could be quite simple. It's a bit strange that programs like apt aptitude and synaptic can't complete a simple task like this. Regards, Jeroen From ed.smits at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 16:01:55 2006 From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:01:55 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Everyone in my family has been using gmail as their only personal email (as opposed to work/school stuff) for 18+ months now, we can only remember twice that the service was down. I asked if the the ads on the side are a bother, we all agreed that you soon learn to not see them at all, and on the occasions when you do notice them it's odd that occasionally they actually are of interest to you. Can't recommend it enough. Cheers On 12/17/06, Luca Manganelli wrote: > On 12/17/06, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > > The disadvantages: you get ads > > You get ads in EVERY free email services. But GMail doesn't ATTACH any > ads in your outgoing email. > > > you leave your e-mail in hands of third-party > > not only Google. Every email provider... > > > if GMail goes down you won't be able to read you e-mail, > > and so on. > > read above. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From bob at bobsbits.net Mon Dec 18 16:25:22 2006 From: bob at bobsbits.net (Bob Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:25:22 -0500 Subject: debug suspend? Message-ID: <4586C0F2.1090200@bobsbits.net> Hi suspend to ram worked in 6.06 for my laptop in 6.10 it doesnt. It goes thru the process but than re-awakes itself in about 10 secs. I have read the scripts a little in /etc/acpi sleep.sh is the main one. prepare.sh is the one that is having trouble. It appears to go through all the modules and shut them down. I have ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem in /etc/default/acpi-support. My hardware is a averatec 4145 laptop with turion 1.8mhz processor via unichrome video etc. P.S. is there a better mailing list for posting technical stuff like this? Is this particular mailing list good for debugging stuff? thanks bob From bob at bobsbits.net Mon Dec 18 16:25:45 2006 From: bob at bobsbits.net (Bob Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:25:45 -0500 Subject: How do I check my hardware from CLI? In-Reply-To: <20061210130841.GB12108@fridge.pov.lt> References: <20061207092852.GA4101@clivemenzies.co.uk> <35ed129f0612070316i6c0c1f1ch257c2790f33ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <20061208085903.7d57d66e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> <20061210130841.GB12108@fridge.pov.lt> Message-ID: <4586C109.3060903@bobsbits.net> Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 02:16:23PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: >> Thank you all, >> >> I have lshw installed, but it isn't verbose enough. For instance: I wold >> like to know how many mem sticks I have on the Motherboard (slot 1: X MB @ X >> MHz and so on). >> >> Any /proc branch for it? > > sudo lshw tells me part of this (lshw as a regular user doesn't): > > *-memory > description: System Memory > physical id: 2c > slot: System board or motherboard > size: 1GB > capacity: 1GB > *-bank:0 > description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous > physical id: 0 > slot: DIMM 1 > size: 512MB > width: 64 bits > *-bank:1 > description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous > physical id: 1 > slot: DIMM 2 > size: 512MB > width: 64 bits > > sudo dmidecode also shows the same kind of information. I don't think you can > get the memory speed in MHz this way. A better bet would be to google for the > motherboard's manual. > > Marius Gedminas > Hmmm I get this with sudo lshw on edgy *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 25 slot: System board or motherboard size: 1GB *-bank:0 description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns) product: PartNum0 vendor: Manufacturer0 physical id: 0 serial: SerNum0 slot: DIMM0 size: 1GB width: 64 bits clock: 333MHz (3.003ns) From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 16:35:17 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:35:17 +0000 Subject: debug suspend? In-Reply-To: <4586C0F2.1090200@bobsbits.net> References: <4586C0F2.1090200@bobsbits.net> Message-ID: <45391f280612180835k1fa33465j2509d84dafee68ca@mail.gmail.com> On 18/12/06, Bob Davis wrote: > > Hi > > suspend to ram worked in 6.06 for my laptop > in 6.10 it doesnt. > > It goes thru the process but than re-awakes itself in about 10 secs. > Wake On Lan setting in the BIOS? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Mon Dec 18 17:19:08 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:19:08 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <6f6293f10612170949r42d9c0d7mc8eafc0f7dd882c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4586CD8C.101@tampabay.rr.com> I think, the only beef so far, would be no plaxo support, that would be a very nice thing, is to be able to integrated plaxo contact manger into gmail. Rich Setup a account, and trying to get use to it. From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 17:27:15 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:27:15 +0000 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have been using Ubuntu since the beginning of breezy and I have never had any problems with my printer until I installed edgy. I still have a working dapper install here were the printer is working fine, but on edgy it's quite unstable. Here's what happens: at first I could install a printer the usual way: "add Printer". But it wasn't recognized after a reboot. Also removing the printer and installing doesn't work. The program gnome-cups-add freezes. Does anyone else also have this problem? I don't know what they changed in CUPS since edgy.... My printer is a HP psc 1110 so I use the hpijs driver. Rutger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 17:55:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:55:00 +0200 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> On 17/12/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Richard wrote: > > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving emails. > > > > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > > I started using a Gmail account recently. Main advantage over my ISP ? > My ISP was regularly taken over by other ISP's, forcing all users to > change the domain name of their e-mail addresses to suit the name of > the new ISP ! It's such a nightmare to change address that I got real > angry about it. So I chose to use Gmail as it is ISP independent, and > is likely to still be called "@gmail.com" in 10 years. > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. If you want that stability, register your own domain name, and make sure you're not infringing on anybody's copyright. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/basics.php http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/247/harrison_george.php From norman at littletank.org Mon Dec 18 18:25:26 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:25:26 +0000 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 17:27 +0000, Rutger van Haasteren wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been using Ubuntu since the beginning of breezy and I have > never had any problems with my printer until I installed edgy. I still > have a working dapper install here were the printer is working fine, > but on edgy it's quite unstable. Here's what happens: > > at first I could install a printer the usual way: "add Printer". But > it wasn't recognized after a reboot. Also removing the printer and > installing doesn't work. The program gnome-cups-add freezes. Does > anyone else also have this problem? I don't know what they changed in > CUPS since edgy.... > > My printer is a HP psc 1110 so I use the hpijs driver. I recently changed to 6.10 and have an HP laserjet 1100. It works as well as it did before changing. Norman From david at adboyd.com Mon Dec 18 17:38:25 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:38:25 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop Message-ID: I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera works, the internet works, everything is fine. However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, no cd spinning, nothing. I've tried it several times. My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give me more information, possibly? Any ideas are welcome! TIA, Dave From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 18 18:41:53 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:41:53 +0000 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> I'm not sure what could be the prob or how to diagnose. I do know however that you can do a non-graphical install BUT it will require that you download the Alternate Edgy 6.10 cd image. On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. > > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera > works, the internet works, everything is fine. > > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. > > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, > no cd spinning, nothing. > > I've tried it several times. > > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. > > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? > > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give > me more information, possibly? > > Any ideas are welcome! > > TIA, > > Dave > > From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 18 18:50:33 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:50:33 +0100 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061218195033.92353f16.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. Ohhhh...noooooo... pfff... :o( > If you want that stability, Who doesn't... changing e-mial address is about as much hassle as moving home, and I wouldn't find moving every 6 months very fun nor cheap... > register your own domain name Yeah I did think about it, but it costs money, and my ISP just wouldn't agree to let me use it I guess, so I would have to go a third party e-mail provider, which would cost more money, and I don't have money to waste on e-mail sadly :-/ > and make sure you're not infringing on anybody's copyright. What copyright ? If I register a domain, hopefully the company who sells it to me made sure it's available ! If not, well their bad, I would redirect any lawsuits straight to them... -- Vince, wishing he had cash to waste on a separate e-mail provider... From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 18 18:53:46 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:53:46 +0100 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> norman wrote: > I recently changed to 6.10 and have an HP laserjet 1100. It works as > well as it did before changing. Yep, works fine. I have an HP LaserJet 6P (on the parallel port). Worked perfectly in Wart, Hoary, Breezy, Dapper, and still wrks in Edgy, and also on Feisty. The only glitch with it is that gnome-cups-manager fails to autodetect the printer, unless I load the "ppdev" kernel module. But even when not auto detected, you just need to select the driver by hand and it works just the same. -- Vince From d.f.armour at shaw.ca Mon Dec 18 18:53:51 2006 From: d.f.armour at shaw.ca (David Armour) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? [Resolved, sorta] References: <1166412786.0@imladris> Message-ID: > > David Armour wrote: > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 / ...produces: > > >26G /var > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /var > > >26G /var/backup > > >... something doesn't seem to add up, and I'm > > >wondering what I should look for? > > > > That seems to add up, roughly. Whats in your > > /var/backup directory that you can delete? Erm... > > 2006-04-21_15.14.00.588810.workhorse2.ful > 2006-04-22_00.00.02.999397.workhorse2.inc > 2006-04-23_00.00.02.663896.workhorse2.inc > 2006-04-24_00.00.02.308743.workhorse2.inc > 2006-04-25_00.00.11.886279.workhorse2.inc > 2006-04-26_00.00.05.449434.workhorse2.inc > 2006-04-27_00.00.03.134969.workhorse2.inc > ... > 2006-12-10_00.00.12.872727.workhorse2.inc > 2006-12-11_00.00.12.252552.workhorse2.ful > 2006-12-12_00.00.14.201826.workhorse2.inc > 2006-12-13_00.00.11.748152.workhorse2.inc > 2006-12-14_00.00.10.465844.workhorse2.inc > 2006-12-15_00.00.12.046713.workhorse2.inc > 2006-12-17_00.00.11.441749.workhorse2.inc > ... in other words, a few months' worth of backups of /home that home user, simple backup, or some on-board cron routine had obligingly made and I'd promptly forgotten, never mind transferred to cd, until I saw the listing in /var/backup. Eek! As an admittedly lame defense, the /var/backup subdirectory was cleverly disguised and hidden behind a wall of permis- sions, and didn't display its contents until I'd chown'd & chmod'd it into submission, and sent its precious cargo in to the ether. But I also now have 20-plus gigs of manoeuvering room back in my grubby little hands, and a general and welcome reduc- tion of my anxiety levels. I'd like to thank Brian Fahrlander, Gary Knight, Clive Menzies, Trevor Nye, Cameron Hutchison, and Eberhard Roloff for assorted suggestions and encouragement. From chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org Mon Dec 18 19:02:07 2006 From: chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org (Christopher Dale) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:02:07 -0600 Subject: pam_foreground.so undefined symbols in /var/log/syslog Message-ID: <4586E5AF.50204@ucmd.zapto.org> Hello everyone, I recently installed the OSSEC security monitor on my home server. It's running Ubuntu 6.10 Server and is completely up to date. OSSEC is spitting out this message: OSSEC HIDS Notification. 2006 Dec 17 21:12:40 Received From: HOSTNAME->/var/log/syslog Rule: 1002 fired (level 7) -> "Unknown problem somewhere in the system." Portion of the log(s): authdaemond: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_foreground.so: undefined symbol: pam_set_data] --END OF NOTIFICATION Any ideas? Thanks in advance everyone :) From ralph.thaller at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:07:36 2006 From: ralph.thaller at gmail.com (Ralph Thaller) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:36 +0100 Subject: Skype SMS In-Reply-To: <159b320e0612180323g1ae3171dy303bd75b99f93a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <159b320e0612180323g1ae3171dy303bd75b99f93a70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yes the linux version isn't up to date... Ralph 2006/12/18, Derek : > > Hi, I know that this is probably a Skype's forum question but I was just > wondering if someone found out a way to send SMS through Skype in Ubuntu. It > seems to be supported only in the windows version, isn't it? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jared.buck at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:08:41 2006 From: jared.buck at gmail.com (Jared Buck) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:08:41 -0800 Subject: Recommended hard drive diet? [Resolved, sorta] In-Reply-To: References: <1166412786.0@imladris> Message-ID: Wow, that's great :-d Glad you got some space freed up. On 12/18/06, David Armour wrote: > > > David Armour wrote: > > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 / ...produces: > > > >26G /var > > > >sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /var > > > >26G /var/backup > > > >... something doesn't seem to add up, and I'm > > > >wondering what I should look for? > > > > > > That seems to add up, roughly. Whats in your > > > /var/backup directory that you can delete? > > Erm... > > > > > 2006-04-21_15.14.00.588810.workhorse2.ful > > 2006-04-22_00.00.02.999397.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-04-23_00.00.02.663896.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-04-24_00.00.02.308743.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-04-25_00.00.11.886279.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-04-26_00.00.05.449434.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-04-27_00.00.03.134969.workhorse2.inc > > ... > > 2006-12-10_00.00.12.872727.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-12-11_00.00.12.252552.workhorse2.ful > > 2006-12-12_00.00.14.201826.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-12-13_00.00.11.748152.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-12-14_00.00.10.465844.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-12-15_00.00.12.046713.workhorse2.inc > > 2006-12-17_00.00.11.441749.workhorse2.inc > > > > ... in other words, a few months' worth of backups of /home > that home user, simple backup, or some on-board cron routine > had obligingly made and I'd promptly forgotten, never mind > transferred to cd, until I saw the listing in /var/backup. > Eek! > > As an admittedly lame defense, the /var/backup subdirectory > was cleverly disguised and hidden behind a wall of permis- > sions, and didn't display its contents until I'd chown'd & > chmod'd it into submission, and sent its precious cargo in > to the ether. > > But I also now have 20-plus gigs of manoeuvering room back > in my grubby little hands, and a general and welcome reduc- > tion of my anxiety levels. > > I'd like to thank Brian Fahrlander, Gary Knight, Clive > Menzies, Trevor Nye, Cameron Hutchison, and Eberhard Roloff > for assorted suggestions and encouragement. > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:17:55 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:17:55 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: There is a good use of that kind of stuff for the Flickr/photobucket uploader built into Flock , and if you ever took a look at box.net , it has roughly the same drag and drop interface I think you're talking about. On 12/18/06, Matthew Clarke wrote: > > Agree with all the comments I've read here. I switched about 6 months > ago on my work account (i.e. major volume...) and have been very > happy. I find I'm losing things less and keep up with the flow > better... > > One point that I haven't seen anyone mention is the power of keyboard > shortcuts. I deal with so many emails that I've gotten hooked on the > speed that only keyboard shortcuts can offer. Typically this has been > a major reason why I avoided web email systems for daily use. > > Gmail has fixed this! I only see a major speed boost when I turn on > the keyboard shortcuts. This is actually make-or-break for me. Y to > archive, R to reply, etc etc. It makes quick replies actually quick. > > Now, the only downside (interface-wise) is with attachments. In email > readers I liked to copy and paste attachments into a message. Oh > well, now I copy & paste the path to the file and use the file browser > dialog. It's OK, but if gmail could use AJAX to do some drag&drop > stuff--would be cool. Has anyone seen this type interface gadget on a > webpage? > > Cheers, > Matthew Clarke > > On 12/17/06, Richard wrote: > > Wondering if ANYONE, has gone full gmail account, and drop > > Thunderbird ...etc and just using gmail for sending and receiving > emails. > > > > I mean 100% usage > > if So, please tell me how it is, any problems... > > and what are the major advantages, say comparing a ISP service, > > and using a client app say thunderbird compare to a web browser... > > > > Thanks ++ > > Rich > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > -- > Matthew Clarke > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norman at littletank.org Mon Dec 18 19:21:00 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:21:00 +0000 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> References: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1166469660.4752.61.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 18:41 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I'm not sure what could be the prob or how to diagnose. I do know > however that you can do a non-graphical install BUT it will require that > you download the Alternate Edgy 6.10 cd image. > > On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: > > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. > > > > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera > > works, the internet works, everything is fine. > > > > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, > > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. > > > > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, > > no cd spinning, nothing. > > > > I've tried it several times. > > > > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no > > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. > > > > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? > > > > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give > > me more information, possibly? > > > > Any ideas are welcome! > > When I upgraded I did it direct from the internet. Just follow the instructions provided on the Ubuntu upgrade screen. Norman From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:20:53 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:20:53 -0500 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: I am using an HP PSC 1210 network printer run off my wife's comp.... worked great in Dapper (my first foray into linux, a week before edgy came out and I upgraded). Now it recognizes the printer, stays after reboots, etc... but every time I print it gets caught up in the queue and my Wife can't even print without clearing the queue and rebooting. I am guessing it is along the same lines, any advice? Chris http://veritastic.wordpress.com On 12/18/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > norman wrote: > > I recently changed to 6.10 and have an HP laserjet 1100. It works as > > well as it did before changing. > > Yep, works fine. I have an HP LaserJet 6P (on the parallel port). > Worked perfectly in Wart, Hoary, Breezy, Dapper, and still wrks in Edgy, > and also on Feisty. > The only glitch with it is that gnome-cups-manager fails to autodetect > the printer, unless I load the "ppdev" kernel module. But even when not > auto detected, you just need to select the driver by hand and it works > just the same. > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Mon Dec 18 19:21:19 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:19 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061218192118.GB22221@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think there is a way to test your CD. Be sure you don't have a bad CD. It is possible some corruption of the packages to be installed could have occurred during the download or burn process. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFhuouG9IpekrhBfIRAmA9AJ4mW10lCAatyHQfXE9KcMYhBwssKwCePU8J 9B4lDl9CzU21KKRLCn2bGHQ= =0udD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From norman at littletank.org Mon Dec 18 19:24:31 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:24:31 +0000 Subject: digital camcorder Message-ID: <1166469871.4752.65.camel@localhost> I was using Kino until I changed to 06.10. Now I have problems. Before I go into a lot of detail, has anyone else met with problems please? Norman From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 18 19:38:01 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:38:01 +0100 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061218203801.3c2d7024.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Chris wrote: > I am using an HP PSC 1210 network printer run off my wife's comp.... worked > great in Dapper (my first foray into linux, a week before edgy came out and > I upgraded). Now it recognizes the printer, stays after reboots, etc... but > every time I print it gets caught up in the queue and my Wife can't even > print without clearing the queue and rebooting. > > I am guessing it is along the same lines, any advice? Whoops, I am afraid I can't help you :-/ The "ppdev" trick, I kinda found out by accident, but for network printing, and indeed anything network related in general, I am vastly incompetent... -- Vince From Herve at lucidia.net Mon Dec 18 19:39:33 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:39:33 -0200 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612181139j4790a6ebq8e98de9c253fc081@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. What happens if you write to them @gmail.com? A friend opened an account and got a @googlemail.com address, but the @gmail.com equivallent worked too... Hervé. From jamie.dobbs at ihug.co.nz Mon Dec 18 19:39:29 2006 From: jamie.dobbs at ihug.co.nz (Jamie Dobbs) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: CD printing utility for Ubuntu? Message-ID: <1699.210.55.22.193.1166470769.squirrel@drgnfire.is-a-geek.com> My Epson Stylus R210 came with a very nifty pirce if software for Windows that allows me to print directly on to printable CDs/DVDs. Is there such a program for Ubuntu? My searching thus far has not shown up anything. From Herve at lucidia.net Mon Dec 18 19:45:56 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:45:56 -0200 Subject: weird! harddrive busy all the time! In-Reply-To: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> References: <6db45ed70612170812w268d3a15s57166f2aa437a520@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612181145t183f7e93hb0183dc4eeb70023@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, beinan li wrote: > Machine: AMD 64 > OS: kubuntu 6.06 x86 > Syndrome: > Ever since logged in, the harddrive seems to be undergoing a lot of > activities > even though I'm running just firefox, kate, gaim, and terminal. > Looking at the KSystemLog, I got these suspicious messages: > 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS > received. > > 12/17/2006 11:07:46 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No working leases in > persistent database - sleeping. > > 12/17/2006 11:10:36 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 > > 12/17/2006 11:10:40 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 > > 12/17/2006 11:10:51 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:05 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:17 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:32 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 > to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 > > 12/17/2006 11:11:37 AM kakyo-desktop dhclient No DHCPOFFERS > received. > > > Any ideas as to how i'm gonna solve this? > Thanks! I wouldn´t think the DHCP problem would be related to the hard disk activity. Open a console and type ´top´, that will give you the process using most CPU. On the 3rd line, look at the number before "wa" (I/O wait): it should be close to 0%, otherwise some process is using your hard disk. It might be the one using your CPU, but then it might now :-( Finding the culprit might be difficult, unless there is something obvious (look at swap usage on line 5). Hervé. From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:50:20 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:50:20 +0200 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <20061218195033.92353f16.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> <20061218195033.92353f16.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00612181150g309f17acved80f09f4c0f7460@mail.gmail.com> On 18/12/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. > > Ohhhh...noooooo... pfff... :o( Yeah, it does suck. > > If you want that stability, > > Who doesn't... changing e-mial address is about as much hassle as > moving home, and I wouldn't find moving every 6 months very fun nor > cheap... > > > register your own domain name > > Yeah I did think about it, but it costs money, and my ISP just wouldn't > agree to let me use it I guess, so I would have to go a third party > e-mail provider, which would cost more money, and I don't have money to > waste on e-mail sadly :-/ I register them for about $10 a year. Google cheap registrars. > > and make sure you're not infringing on anybody's copyright. > > What copyright ? If I register a domain, hopefully the company who > sells it to me made sure it's available ! If not, well their bad, I > would redirect any lawsuits straight to them... No, that's your responsibility. In any case, the lawsuit would be about your surrendering the name, not monetary compensation (most likely, but IANAL). Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/php.html http://dramatherapy.info From ubuntu-01 at jeremykister.com Mon Dec 18 19:58:50 2006 From: ubuntu-01 at jeremykister.com (Jeremy Kister) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:58:50 -0500 Subject: IPF on ubuntu Message-ID: <4586F2FA.2050600@jeremykister.com> I'm trying to build IPF 4.1.15 (or PF) working on Ubuntu server 6.06. errors include: /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: error: #error "Compilation aborted. Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package." /usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: error: #error "(can be found at http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)" the Makefile: http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/Makefile result of "make linux": http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/make_linux.txt I've read the libc-headers FAQ, but have no clue where to go next. Has anyone any clues to share? -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Mon Dec 18 19:59:51 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:59:51 -0500 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612181150g309f17acved80f09f4c0f7460@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> <20061218195033.92353f16.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612181150g309f17acved80f09f4c0f7460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061218195951.GA27652@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The thing I don't like about registering a domain name is that I would have to either agree to let anyone and everyone with internet access see my name, address, phone number and other private personal information or pay extra money to have my personal information hidden by a third-party proxy company. I have actually found that services like dyndns.com offer a much better solution even though the domain names are longer. At least they don't require that I sell my soul to the whois database. And to top it off, it's free unless I need more than 5 names. You can't beat free. :) And those services work with a static IP just as well as they do with a dynamic IP. And dyndns for one isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Just my $0.02 USD, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFhvM3G9IpekrhBfIRAvOuAKCM6gHTsZS3dOTPIlmoPlhTlPcJgQCggCcG D4l/GEHp5x77nGGxNWnOvi4= =OMBc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stas at edpausa.com Mon Dec 18 20:04:21 2006 From: stas at edpausa.com (stas khromoy) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:04:21 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> References: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <4586F445.1010006@edpausa.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 did you try using a different CD to install Ubuntu ? i've had similar things happened to me a few times and most of the time the install CD was some how damaged Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I'm not sure what could be the prob or how to diagnose. I do know > however that you can do a non-graphical install BUT it will require that > you download the Alternate Edgy 6.10 cd image. > > On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: >> I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. >> >> Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera >> works, the internet works, everything is fine. >> >> However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, >> partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. >> >> When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, >> no cd spinning, nothing. >> >> I've tried it several times. >> >> My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no >> info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. >> >> How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? >> >> Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give >> me more information, possibly? >> >> Any ideas are welcome! >> >> TIA, >> >> Dave >> >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRYb0RdbpM15f9s9nAQJ9cAP9FYNaPsqsIJBoXHTc2ku/KqSg2j1Iyvww DXct2D/LACpC9mj49gRahLClv4lHyImQFPskKBH8VAm/SgA3xSD377pJVbN2+/Xh 5TrwvuF+c18a/eeUoCGU8rf7i9IR3Wzyv3d2mqIhr8AW+4uT4KCYHuiakqQdb06r +eykMneoZfc= =1OSH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Dec 18 20:06:36 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:06:36 +0100 Subject: IPF on ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4586F2FA.2050600@jeremykister.com> References: <4586F2FA.2050600@jeremykister.com> Message-ID: <4586F4CC.70403@welcomes-you.com> Jeremy Kister wrote: > I'm trying to build IPF 4.1.15 (or PF) working on Ubuntu server 6.06. > errors include: > /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: error: #error "Compilation aborted. > Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package." > /usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: error: #error "(can be found at > http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)" > the Makefile: http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/Makefile > result of "make linux": http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/make_linux.txt > I've read the libc-headers FAQ, but have no clue where to go next. > Has anyone any clues to share? For me, it looks like you are missing the kernel and/or libc header files. Have you installed the following packages? linux-headers-generic (assuming you are running the generic kernel) libc6-dev (apt-get install build-essential will not hurt either). HTH Carsten From pesterhazy at gmx.net Mon Dec 18 20:05:29 2006 From: pesterhazy at gmx.net (Paulus Esterhazy) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:05:29 +0100 Subject: debug suspend? In-Reply-To: <4586C0F2.1090200@bobsbits.net> References: <4586C0F2.1090200@bobsbits.net> Message-ID: Bob Davis schrieb: > Hi > > suspend to ram worked in 6.06 for my laptop > in 6.10 it doesnt. > > It goes thru the process but than re-awakes itself in about 10 secs. > Try looking at /var/log/syslog or the output of "dmesg". Paulus From david at adboyd.com Mon Dec 18 21:07:58 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:07:58 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop References: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> <1166469660.4752.61.camel@localhost> Message-ID: norman writes: > On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 18:41 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >> I'm not sure what could be the prob or how to diagnose. I do know >> however that you can do a non-graphical install BUT it will require that >> you download the Alternate Edgy 6.10 cd image. >> >> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: >> > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. >> > >> > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera >> > works, the internet works, everything is fine. >> > >> > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, >> > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. >> > >> > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, >> > no cd spinning, nothing. >> > >> > I've tried it several times. >> > >> > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no >> > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. >> > >> > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? >> > >> > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give >> > me more information, possibly? >> > >> > Any ideas are welcome! >> > > When I upgraded I did it direct from the internet. Just follow the > instructions provided on the Ubuntu upgrade screen. > > Norman Thanks, but this is not an upgrade. I'm starting with an empty hard drive. From david at adboyd.com Mon Dec 18 21:09:19 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:09:19 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop References: <20061218192118.GB22221@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: Lorenzo Taylor writes: > I think there is a way to test your CD. Be sure you don't have a bad > CD. It is possible some corruption of the packages to be installed > could have occurred during the download or burn process. > Thanks for the idea. It is the same CD I've used for every attempt. I'll run it through the self checker before I try again. Dave From ubuntu-01 at jeremykister.com Mon Dec 18 21:13:33 2006 From: ubuntu-01 at jeremykister.com (Jeremy Kister) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:13:33 -0500 Subject: IPF on ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4586F4CC.70403@welcomes-you.com> References: <4586F2FA.2050600@jeremykister.com> <4586F4CC.70403@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <4587047D.7060600@jeremykister.com> On 12/18/2006 3:06 PM, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > For me, it looks like you are missing the kernel and/or libc header > files. Have you installed the following packages? > > > linux-headers-generic (assuming you are running the generic kernel) > libc6-dev We don't have a linux-headers-generic available. Do we need a different repository to get linux-headers-generic? We have the kernel source and headers installed for our kernel version. could it be one of these? http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/search_linux-headers.txt > (apt-get install build-essential will not hurt either). yep, been there. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ From david at adboyd.com Mon Dec 18 21:08:36 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:08:36 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop References: <1166467313.12437.2.camel@worldventures> <4586F445.1010006@edpausa.com> Message-ID: stas khromoy writes: > did you try using a different CD to install Ubuntu ? > > i've had similar things happened to me a few times > and most of the time the install CD was some how damaged > > Hmm, no. I do see that there is a 'check CD' entry, maybe I should try that. Thanks, Dave From schoon at amgt.com Mon Dec 18 21:18:09 2006 From: schoon at amgt.com (Mark Schoonover) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:18:09 -0800 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop Message-ID: <26845D561256D3428A862700DAF69B581AEEF5@AG-EX1> david at adboyd.com wrote: > norman writes: > >> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 18:41 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: >>> I'm not sure what could be the prob or how to diagnose. I do know >>> however that you can do a non-graphical install BUT it will require >>> that you download the Alternate Edgy 6.10 cd image. >>> >>> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: >>>> I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. >>>> >>>> Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the >>>> web camera works, the internet works, everything is fine. >>>> >>>> However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering >>>> user info, partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. >>>> >>>> When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive >>>> access light, no cd spinning, nothing. >>>> >>>> I've tried it several times. >>>> >>>> My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? >>>> There is no info displayed on the screen, other than the status >>>> bar. >>>> >>>> How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? >>>> >>>> Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? >>>> Would that give me more information, possibly? >>>> >>>> Any ideas are welcome! >>>> >> When I upgraded I did it direct from the internet. Just follow the >> instructions provided on the Ubuntu upgrade screen. >> >> Norman > > Thanks, but this is not an upgrade. I'm starting with an empty hard > drive. Norman, I've seen this problem before, and what I do is to switch to another text virtual term. I think X is hanging up on something, but I haven't had the time to figure this one out. Once all the software is installed, you can switch back to X and march on. HTH Thanks! Mark Schoonover IS Manager American Geotechnical - California, Nevada and Arizona V-> 858.450.4040 F-> 714.685.3909 C-> 858.472.3816 From bob55 at ntlworld.com Mon Dec 18 21:28:47 2006 From: bob55 at ntlworld.com (Bob Adams) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:28:47 +0000 Subject: TV card software? Message-ID: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> I have a Leadtek TV card which is recognised okay by Ubuntu 6.10 (running Gnome) but I have not been overwhelmed by the software I have tried. Xawtv gives a flickering picture but with audio working okay and Kdetv gives a superb picture but I cannot discover how to turn on the sound! Any other software suggestions welcomed (and also a clue as to where the kdetv 'inline' sound 'On' switch is hiding) please. Bob From a24061 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 18 21:41:17 2006 From: a24061 at yahoo.com (Adam Funk) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:41:17 +0000 Subject: Lost use of webcam upgrading from dapper to edgy. References: <7r6954-u39.ln1@news.ducksburg.com> <1166151615.13079.9.camel@beergut.evilweasels.no-ip.com> Message-ID: On 2006-12-15, Andrew Mahoney wrote: > Had this problem myself with a Creative Webcam Pro Ex, I knew that it > used the pwc driver (it appears yours does too) then I found this had > been added to the wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#head-836881f8aaa64508507ce1f2091b24b8aead02cb > It has a test to check if your driver is broke and step by step > instructions for compiling a working version. Thanks for the info. I'll try it when I get a chance. From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 21:56:23 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:56:23 +0200 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <20061218195951.GA27652@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> <20061218195033.92353f16.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612181150g309f17acved80f09f4c0f7460@mail.gmail.com> <20061218195951.GA27652@taylor.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <880dece00612181356j63718deckc47826eac11861ee@mail.gmail.com> On 18/12/06, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The thing I don't like about registering a domain name is that I would > have to either agree to let anyone and everyone with internet access see > my name, address, phone number and other private personal information or > pay extra money to have my personal information hidden by a third-party > proxy company. True. If you want, I'll register it for you. But you'll have to trust me :) > I have actually found that services like dyndns.com > offer a much better solution even though the domain names are longer. > At least they don't require that I sell my soul to the whois database. > And to top it off, it's free unless I need more than 5 names. You can't > beat free. :) And those services work with a static IP just as well as > they do with a dynamic IP. And dyndns for one isn't going anywhere > anytime soon. Don't be too sure. The internet community has been surprised more than once. For that matter, even the Holy Roman Empire fell. Google will fall one day. The United States will fall just as the CCCP fell. As King David said, "everything passes". (his kingdom fell as well) Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/166/416/queen/innuendo.php http://pembroke-isles.com From markwarner1954 at att.net Mon Dec 18 22:06:34 2006 From: markwarner1954 at att.net (Mark Warner) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:06:34 -0500 Subject: TV card software? References: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Bob Adams wrote: > I have a Leadtek TV card which is recognised okay by Ubuntu 6.10 > (running Gnome) but I have not been overwhelmed by the software I have > tried. Xawtv gives a flickering picture but with audio working okay > and Kdetv gives a superb picture but I cannot discover how to turn on > the sound! > > Any other software suggestions welcomed (and also a clue as to where > the kdetv 'inline' sound 'On' switch is hiding) please. I use tvtime in all my installs. It's in the repos. -- Mark Warner lose .inhibitions when replying From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Mon Dec 18 22:18:47 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:18:47 +0100 Subject: TV card software? In-Reply-To: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> References: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20061218231847.f96891e6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Bob Adams wrote: > I have a Leadtek TV card which is recognised okay by Ubuntu 6.10 > (running Gnome) but I have not been overwhelmed by the software I have > tried. Xawtv gives a flickering picture but with audio working okay and > Kdetv gives a superb picture but I cannot discover how to turn on the > sound! > > Any other software suggestions welcomed Here are some more you could try: Zapping TVtime I have had issues with both of them, so eventually I moved to: "xdtv" Its XawTV on steroid, nearly perfect for my needs. Only "issue" I have is that XawTV switches channels instantly, whereas xdtv takes almost one second to switch, which makes it difficult/painful to quickly go round all the channels. But really, I am very picky here ! ;-) xdtv is not in the repositories, but you can grab a package on the project's website: (http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/htmlpageUS/indexUS.shtml) Here is the direct link to the pacakge: http://nicolas.estre.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/dapper/experimental/binary-i386/xdtv_2.4.0pre0-1_i386.deb it's the latest version, but it's for Dapper (6.06), but I run it on Edgy and it works just fine. When you double-click on the package to install it, it will need to pull a couple dependencies which are in the "Universe" repository, so make sure you have it enabled before proceeding. I don't know if xdtv will work better for you (since I don't have your board, and didn't have picture quality problems when I was using xawtv, unlike you), but it will take 30 seconds of your time to give it a try, so can't hurt ! ;o) HTH -- Vince From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 18 21:56:59 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:56:59 +0100 Subject: Problem ndiswrapper with a belkin 802.11g Message-ID: <1166479019.4942.5.camel@Ubuntu-Toshiba> I have sorted out my problem. It is a very curious story. I had not noticed that the eth0, my cable connection had a static IP address. The belkin wireless router does not like this at all. I was being given my DHCP from the router, but then the static address was being used and the Belkin dropped out again. Beware out there. Have a great christmas, and thanks to all those who tried to point me in the right direction, especially dragffy. Regards From chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org Mon Dec 18 23:50:03 2006 From: chrisd at ucmd.zapto.org (Christopher Dale) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:50:03 -0600 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4587292B.3050608@ucmd.zapto.org> Hi David, I believe I've run into that before. It may be your partitioning settings are a little scewed or perhaps aren't correct. If you could post them, that would be helpful in diagnosing the problem. Thanks David, Christopher J. David Boyd wrote: > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. > > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera > works, the internet works, everything is fine. > > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. > > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, > no cd spinning, nothing. > > I've tried it several times. > > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. > > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? > > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give > me more information, possibly? > > Any ideas are welcome! > > TIA, > > Dave > > > From stugreen at cox-internet.com Mon Dec 18 23:52:02 2006 From: stugreen at cox-internet.com (Stu Green) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:52:02 -0600 Subject: Has Anyone Successfully Gotten a DWL 122 To Work In Edgy ? (No Text) Message-ID: <458729A2.6080007@cox-internet.com> From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 19 00:43:21 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:43:21 -0600 Subject: TV card software? In-Reply-To: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> References: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <458735A9.8000209@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bob Adams wrote: > > I have a Leadtek TV card which is recognised okay by Ubuntu 6.10 > (running Gnome) but I have not been overwhelmed by the software I have > tried. Xawtv gives a flickering picture but with audio working okay and > Kdetv gives a superb picture but I cannot discover how to turn on the > sound! > > Any other software suggestions welcomed (and also a clue as to where the > kdetv 'inline' sound 'On' switch is hiding) please. See TvTime; it's pretty darned complete. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFhzWp6PLtRzZbdhYRAu0sAJ9KcuTiGEjbgjNw6fptQYihLG2JSgCfX/ti EeKbZqxloGSMGrCUsxPOYnU= =r2P8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 00:56:41 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:56:41 -0600 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612181656s9b3a998j2701d8699c367a5b@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/06, Scott wrote: > > So what's wrong with it? > > First off - mailing lists! > > For some reason (that only some "genius" at Google can grasp) Gmail does > not include your messages in anything you send to a malling list. You > won't see them. They don't show up. That doesn't mean they didn't get > to the list,. Google just doesn't think you need to see them as long as > everyone else does. That's very odd, I see my own messages as part of every thread I particpate in. > This can be confusing to say the least. It's been brought to Google's > attention on many occasions but they seem to think this "feature" is a > keeper. Again, this sounds odd to me as I *do* see my own messages, and you're indicating that I shouldn't. > > Second - targeted advertising. > > If you do notice the ads you'll notice that sometimes they can be a bit > creepy. How so? Well the subject of the ads pertains to the (possibly > confidential) text in your email. Which remains as confidential as any email you send across the Internet. It's being looked at by a computer. -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp Tue Dec 19 02:18:27 2006 From: micro_thangs at yahoo.co.jp (2g) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:18:27 +0900 Subject: [ppc] lots of buffer i/o error at start up Message-ID: <0192cf45bfb7ab453047538fb0cdd8da@yahoo.co.jp> it is quit like my iBookG4 itself has a problem but let me try this post, please installed 6.10ppc to this machine and now have dual boot environment with osx since exchanging the sony-oriented-volcano-battery to the other one with apple hdd (or motherboard) started behaving weird and did a plenty of erasing and re-installing the osx during the repartitioning process came up with the idea to install ubuntu too and downloaded the iso the disk first aid says "nothing is wrong" with any volume but when booting the ubuntu's cd lots of "buffer i/o error" came out and because of that booting itself got delayed quite long same thing happens when booting the installed ubuntu from the hdd and most of the problem it reports about the hdax is about the one formatted for osx (hfs+?) both osx and ubuntu runs okay after it gets booted some one told me that i should have done more clean up of power management thing before and after setting the new battery and with that done osx seems to become normal but ubuntu booting reports the same thing all the time what's maybe going on? have to look for a way to make yaboot choose osx as the default booting os thanx 2g --- http://micro.ispretty.com From chanweiyee at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 02:37:24 2006 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:37:24 +0800 Subject: Dapper or just Linux (child safe) In-Reply-To: <769006.73055.qm@web26015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <769006.73055.qm@web26015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45875064.5080001@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Anthony Gardner wrote: > As for all your suggestions. thaks. have played with dansguardian > and it looks good. have to work out how to configure it ... by > default, it even stops me getting on the bbc website ;) http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7681 "It's no secret that Linux needs parental controls installed with a distribution by default, and it’s been a necessity for a long time now. Advanced users have always pointed to Dans Guardian, but they are delusional if they believe that most people have the time or the ability to implement this great resource. A Need That Has Finally Been Met. Regardless of your religious feelings with a Linux distribution, the fact is that the inclusion of parental controls (thanks to integrating Dans Guardian features) will mean that Linux using parents everywhere will give Ubuntu CE a very serious look." Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRYdQYi3vyuijoxbUAQM+gBAAp271iE4WUQIJ8rM+q9YIW3IMtRhyzZxA LWSWqNhNUTGUsnkIKJ27fVdQLnt16GBDHWj4aARINi8gwjFwTBUHq/wDUzHIkBLt kEwT/VDj/Fc63x6UQLW4jitsExXJdqD7fV63E6gEX0d2Xy/YoxQQUSxLZDkDA5IX d9uJA0x/uyAlvbBbr9xfhobHkaaLREWijIPh6H/1SavBLlrJQktwtYcYXTcUSVAJ /3wmIhg0Vr+2w7z5uklsgiE58GXWQ5HCfGnaKDA+ojfpcA+Dbo7Vkev8MB7GouYp oJeix+YyGmM0SUVW2i3/it/sJ7rFB97pM57WG7qTzjXousyHkBCpijUJIBDxuFtR iSbv/LqOzRi0BqdezgMfknm065bG6SirqDsPg2E1uWgukNsCwtZTchlU+xNXGjrT EpJrpizs9Wnhakq5lNd7Haen71j0pAkldZKTfSddSKI+D8RfSZnK/jzvxyOOvoib 5382TqG12SbEZYt2nTN/VqBDTu4ABkitfGRf4CkbtaWTOq5AxzKZE/9zs+4kCyjS 3McC5fr9oa4Zk2E5q5hPrbpz6pBxvBrmz4sfg/H06XgiDHSWlgmxGvvC+s3DlFCI d916JgiirdbxciY3o5TAZvmwcuuUzmh51Z6aAlcL/9Wnq55O7vuBhAk7RrUwvSK2 UmSB0VtDT8w= =o1HI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chanweiyee at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 02:40:06 2006 From: chanweiyee at gmail.com (Wei-Yee Chan) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:40:06 +0800 Subject: encrypted image file In-Reply-To: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> References: <45820257.7080509@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <45875106.7040405@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 U could try TrueCrypt. There's no GUI though. http://www.truecrypt.org Regards, Wei-Yee Chan http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com Richard wrote: > okay, on the Mac, I could make a encrypted image file with AES 256, > and enter a password, set the size 2 - 4GB it would create a image > file, and would NOT MOUNT it, until I enter the password correctly, > the you could add folder and files.. and whatever to the image. > > -- NOW, is there anything like that for ubuntu. I work on, allot of > clients projects...so once I am done, I would unmount the image > file. > > Thanks- Rich > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRYdRBS3vyuijoxbUAQOAjRAAypUWjaDzBslVlWof74JmHIcfOVix9ndd GKNuI+BNz0lbWVjHdCNG7fxNcNd5rkWjTdQe1A0V2PCNByrbr3P6mR4EPU9FZaIN 1tCPt/svIiSNOtLeW7jLkjliXHM9zCIuEsLeDJHtna+Z8D3kE+RtrW3dBqna0K+6 DSnTfrMUrjoIKh7FRUhxU/IygA8qaK1sMjWWLzWCRqLUVAZ/WtZfQzB7ZH0bn9o4 zWXxxJXKWIYII48eu/NNStZuvFIvRjXio3oG60gYvBH+Emn8SIXvhyKWsytTyq15 amKItBdAibLe0/H/YI/7DOTDSWT+xJ3ymyvc+522QcbIAIv25VeinfLvDLr7EumF UAIrJuivQWbg82JxUBPQUqwneudBDhgICah/qA9SlMajZDX1RwxW0IgxMPktQmce NUCXTMoBRaQ3fMfR33wY4jsz6W/FLLEIR8Z9OK+F355imFYjS4FIBGbpUpvur4DP tsEXzdOOfnnn0TnR3btrhxO5Rq0jWokOQsS8lTBDri8iQCRnRLGZ8fThRmW4JgGi jz5Q/Y4myxS1EcaWrhwkut1Y6s3ae5+MG0Vu9YYaxdf4mOGK8/ihJcLQ82g5Djz0 wG9+fycucCdYaWbBJIfzsO/IUH82hKo30J57dRtQvONelk0hrX+1su/Xrk0dZSIU JqSfiH/vP3s= =R2Ud -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 19 04:26:14 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:26:14 +1100 Subject: CD printing utility for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1699.210.55.22.193.1166470769.squirrel@drgnfire.is-a-geek.com> References: <1699.210.55.22.193.1166470769.squirrel@drgnfire.is-a-geek.com> Message-ID: <20061219152614.b07ae15e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) "Jamie Dobbs" wrote: > My Epson Stylus R210 came with a very nifty pirce if software for Windows > that allows me to print directly on to printable CDs/DVDs. > Is there such a program for Ubuntu? > My searching thus far has not shown up anything. cd-circleprint ? apt-cache show cd-circleprint says it has a GUI, but it's tk, so it might not be very pretty ;-) Apparently it uses perl, and outputs in postscript. It' s in the universe repository. I haven't tried it, but it is only a small download, so it might be worth a look. Peter From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 19 04:28:44 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:28:44 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> Message-ID: <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof writes: > It's a bit strange that programs like apt aptitude and synaptic can't > complete a simple task like this. I'm not sure it's that simple, because the information (AFAIK) is just not there. Once a package is installed, the system doesn't keep track of where the package came from. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 19 04:31:36 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:31:36 +0100 Subject: IPF on ubuntu References: <4586F2FA.2050600@jeremykister.com> <4586F4CC.70403@welcomes-you.com> <4587047D.7060600@jeremykister.com> Message-ID: <873b7cik0n.fsf@fjellstad.org> Jeremy Kister writes: > We don't have a linux-headers-generic available. > Do we need a different repository to get linux-headers-generic? > > We have the kernel source and headers installed for our kernel version. > > could it be one of these? > http://www.broadviewnet.net/tmp/search_linux-headers.txt If you are on Dapper, the package is linux-headers-686 (or linux-headers-386. Match it up with the kernel you have). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 19 04:26:04 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:26:04 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> Message-ID: <87bqm0ik9v.fsf@fjellstad.org> Bob Davis writes: > I just tried this: > > Find the repository with your browser > for this line in sources.list: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe main restricted multiverse > I went to: > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ > There you will find a file named Packages.bz2 > Download this file and you find a list of all of the packages and their versions and descriptions You don't need to download it, since if it is your source.list, and your deb database is up-to-date, then that file should be in /var/lib/apt/lists -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Dec 19 05:46:18 2006 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:46:18 +0200 Subject: TV card software? In-Reply-To: <20061218231847.f96891e6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> <20061218231847.f96891e6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Hi Vincent, Could you provide us with the relevant lspci listing for your card, so we can get more info regarding the chipset on the card? The sound issue could be related to the sound server you are using. Try changing the sound server to aRTs, somewhere under the preferences menu (I am not by my Edgy Box right now - so I can't tell you exactly where). Good Luck! On 12/19/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > Bob Adams wrote: > > I have a Leadtek TV card which is recognised okay by Ubuntu 6.10 > > (running Gnome) but I have not been overwhelmed by the software I have > > tried. Xawtv gives a flickering picture but with audio working okay and > > Kdetv gives a superb picture but I cannot discover how to turn on the > > sound! > > > > Any other software suggestions welcomed > > Here are some more you could try: > > Zapping > TVtime > > I have had issues with both of them, so eventually I moved to: > > "xdtv" > > Its XawTV on steroid, nearly perfect for my needs. Only "issue" I have > is that XawTV switches channels instantly, whereas xdtv takes almost > one second to switch, which makes it difficult/painful to quickly go > round all the channels. But really, I am very picky here ! ;-) > > xdtv is not in the repositories, but you can grab a package on the > project's website: > > (http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/htmlpageUS/indexUS.shtml) > > Here is the direct link to the pacakge: > > > http://nicolas.estre.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/dapper/experimental/binary-i386/xdtv_2.4.0pre0-1_i386.deb > > it's the latest version, but it's for Dapper (6.06), but I run it on > Edgy and it works just fine. When you double-click on the package to > install it, it will need to pull a couple dependencies which are in the > "Universe" repository, so make sure you have it enabled before > proceeding. > > I don't know if xdtv will work better for you (since I don't have > your board, and didn't have picture quality problems when I was using > xawtv, unlike you), but it will take 30 seconds of your time to give it > a try, so can't hurt ! ;o) > > HTH > > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- :====================================================:. 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In-Reply-To: References: <6r6bqnOPgwhFFwi3@ntlworld.com> <20061218231847.f96891e6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061219072244.942f92ad.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "Amichai Rotman" wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > Could you provide us with the relevant lspci listing for your card, so we > can get more info regarding the chipset on the card? Yep, mine has the good ol' "BT878" chip (from a "Pinnacle PC TV" card), which might explain why it worked so well with XawTV (unlike the OP's card), since I think XawTV was originally written for this chip. -- Vince From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 07:21:06 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:21:06 +0100 Subject: run i386 on AMD64? Message-ID: run i386 on AMD64? Why do this just for browsing? You can use automatix2 and it will give you a 32bit browser on your 64bit Ubuntu. Plus it will give you all the codecs etc you might want. This is what I do (Kubuntu) and I have no problems with my amd64 x2 3800+. Douglas From ubuntu at ramm-ericson.se Tue Dec 19 07:35:04 2006 From: ubuntu at ramm-ericson.se (Johan Ramm-Ericson) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:35:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26478.192.16.134.66.1166513704.squirrel@www.ramm-ericson.se> On Tue, December 19, 2006 06:46, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof writes: > >> It's a bit strange that programs like apt aptitude and synaptic can't >> complete a simple task like this. > > I'm not sure it's that simple, because the information (AFAIK) is just > not there. Once a package is installed, the system doesn't keep track > of where the package came from. Hhhmm - interesting problem - I think it could be done because : apt-cache show | grep -i section /johan From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 19 07:35:59 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:35:59 +1100 Subject: run i386 on AMD64? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061219183559.ef9c471b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:21:06 +0100 Knapp wrote: > run i386 on AMD64? > > Why do this just for browsing? You can use automatix2 and it will give > you a 32bit browser on your 64bit Ubuntu. Plus it will give you all > the codecs etc you might want. This is what I do (Kubuntu) and I have > no problems with my amd64 x2 3800+. Hmm. See for example https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/080667.html Automatix2 might have changed, but it pays to read what an Ubuntu developer had to say about it. ( link above). There have also been questions about its effect on the recent rash of upgrade problems people have reported Dapper -> Edgy, FWIW. Peter From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Tue Dec 19 07:54:59 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:54:59 +0100 Subject: TV card software? In-Reply-To: <20061219072244.942f92ad.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <200612190755.kBJ7t8On028539@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Tvtime will work with your card then I am running it on my machine. Good luck From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Tue Dec 19 08:42:29 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:42:29 +0100 Subject: run i386 on AMD64? In-Reply-To: <20061219183559.ef9c471b.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <200612190842.kBJ8gT41003088@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> I installed automatix, and had two days of grief correcting the problems... From wattazoum at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 09:39:55 2006 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:39:55 +0100 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4587B36B.1070306@gmail.com> Hi, Remzi AKYÜZ a écrit : > Hello, > can you vmware-server ? > I think vmware-server is better than vmware workstation and it is free :) > can you look at this > http://www.vmware.com/products/server > page ? > I won't say that vmware server is better (even though I prefer it). Vmware server is meant for server but can run on Desktop. Nevertheless it needs great performance from the Host computer. Using VMware Workstation can be considered as a mix of vmware player ( light version of Workstation ) and vmware server ( heavy version of Workstation). The point is Workstation isn't free . So if you mind spending money for it, you can use Player or Server. I would recommend Server if you use many VM simultaneously and Player if you just want to use a VM from time to time. wattazoum http://wattazoum.fr From zeller at ibh-wor.de Tue Dec 19 09:40:16 2006 From: zeller at ibh-wor.de (Benjamin Zeller) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:40:16 +0100 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> Message-ID: <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> On Sunday 17 December 2006 12:28, Scott wrote: > Chris Rohde spake thusly on 12/16/2006 06:55 PM: > > Heya All, > > So, I've recently noticed that in both Firefox and Flock I can only get > > maybe 2 or 3 seconds worth of video playback, mostly in youtube videos. > > Any idea why? I see the bar keep loading, but can't figure out why it > > stops playing there. > > Well in the case of YouTube (and an ever expanding list of sites with > video) they utilize Flash. And the current version of Flash for Linux is > woefully out of date. Rumor has it this will be corrected in a month or > so. > Made quite good experiences with flash beta. -- Benjamin Zeller Ing.-Büro Hohmann Bahnhofstr. 34 D-82515 Wolfratshausen Tel.: +49 (0)8171 347 88 12 Mobil: +49 (0)160 99 11 55 23 Fax: +49 (0)8171 910 778 mailto: zeller at ibh-wor.de www.ibh-wor.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net Tue Dec 19 04:30:17 2006 From: helenjohns40 at bellsouth.net (helen johnson) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:30:17 -0500 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166502617.9044.4.camel@toby-desktop> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. > > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web camera > works, the internet works, everything is fine. > > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user info, > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. > > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access light, > no cd spinning, nothing. > > I've tried it several times. > > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is no > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. > > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? > > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that give > me more information, possibly? > > Any ideas are welcome! > > TIA, > Dave put the install cd in the cdrom and leave it loaded and running overnight then get up next day and click install! It worked for me! Dave? do u have an hp computer, or an athalon xp ?........paul > Dave > > From rcb at digitalanswers.biz Tue Dec 19 10:51:08 2006 From: rcb at digitalanswers.biz (Rick Chagouri-Brindle) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:51:08 +0000 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4587C41C.2080502@digitalanswers.biz> > > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. If you > want that stability, register your own domain name, and make sure > you're not infringing on anybody's copyright. > > Dotan Cohen > I didn't! I still have my gmail.com email address and I'm a UK user . . . From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Dec 19 10:55:27 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:55:27 -0500 Subject: problem accessing userfiles on XP Message-ID: <200612190555.27812.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm using SMB4K to mount a WinXP box across my home LAN. I can read all the user files except for those contained in the directory owned by an administrator account. Anyone know how to open that account on the LAN only? TIA Paul From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 11:10:20 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:10:20 +0000 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <20061217190050.80ca5e15.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <880dece00612180955n6949333avfe3c32a4612068e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45391f280612190310ldcf3d7dra4e9f5807733b1a3@mail.gmail.com> On 18/12/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Not for UK users. They had to switch to ~@googlemail.co.uk. If you > want that stability, register your own domain name, and make sure > you're not infringing on anybody's copyright. > > I think that only applied to users creating mail accounts after the impasse with the company claiming gmail.com was there's. My gmail account was created before then, and I've had no requirement to change it. -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anothermindbomb at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 11:15:15 2006 From: anothermindbomb at gmail.com (Steve Flynn) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:15:15 +0000 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <45391f280612190315ua4bce9br9d6b91713dd1a620@mail.gmail.com> On 18/12/06, Scott wrote: > > So what's wrong with it? > > First off - mailing lists! > > For some reason (that only some "genius" at Google can grasp) Gmail does > not include your messages in anything you send to a malling list. You > won't see them. They don't show up. That doesn't mean they didn't get > to the list,. Google just doesn't think you need to see them as long as > everyone else does. I read this list, the IBM-MAIN list and the REXX list via Gmail. I see all my posts and I see all replies. Perhaps you've got your mailing list configured to NOT send you your own replies - what you are describing is not a gmail issue. This can be confusing to say the least. It's been brought to Google's > attention on many occasions but they seem to think this "feature" is a > keeper. > Got any cite's for this? -- Steve Despair - It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dragffy at yandex.ru Tue Dec 19 11:31:50 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:31:50 +0000 Subject: VMware workstation 5.5 won't install on Edgy In-Reply-To: <4587B36B.1070306@gmail.com> References: <1166399669.6485.1.camel@worldventures> <200612172042.49136.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <45864275.2070906@gmail.com> <4587B36B.1070306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166527910.5509.1.camel@worldventures> Well the solution was (hardly a solution) but changing from 5.5.1 to 5.5.3 allowed it to be installed OK. I have dabbled with player and server but prefer the compactness of workstation. I am much more productive with the workstation. Thank you for the suggestions anyhoo! On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:39 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Hi, > > Remzi AKYÜZ a écrit : > > Hello, > > can you vmware-server ? > > I think vmware-server is better than vmware workstation and it is free :) > > can you look at this > > http://www.vmware.com/products/server > > page ? > > > > I won't say that vmware server is better (even though I prefer it). > Vmware server is meant for server but can run on Desktop. Nevertheless > it needs great performance from the Host computer. > > Using VMware Workstation can be considered as a mix of vmware player ( > light version of Workstation ) and vmware server ( heavy version of > Workstation). > > The point is Workstation isn't free . So if you mind spending money for > it, you can use Player or Server. > > I would recommend Server if you use many VM simultaneously and Player if > you just want to use a VM from time to time. > > wattazoum > http://wattazoum.fr > From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 11:36:16 2006 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:36:16 +0100 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 141 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hmm. >See for example >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/080667.html >Automatix2 might have changed, but it pays to read what an Ubuntu developer >had to say about it. ( link above). There have also been questions about >its effect on the recent rash of upgrade problems people have reported >Dapper -> Edgy, FWIW. >Peter All I can say is that I have had no problems and have been using it for months with E.E. I did not know that he was not a team player, sad. Douglas From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 12:06:57 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:06:57 +0200 Subject: Which USB post is 2.0? Message-ID: <880dece00612190406p2e7302act6229c0a60f91f4e2@mail.gmail.com> My machine has 6 USB ports, 2 in the front and 4 in the back. While playing with lshw I found this: *-usb:2 description: USB Controller product: USB 2.0 Controller vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] physical id: 3.3 bus info: pci at 00:03.3 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd resources: iomemory:cffdf000-cffdffff irq:10 *-usbhost product: EHCI Host Controller vendor: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic ehci_hcd physical id: 1 bus info: usb at 2 logical name: usb2 version: 2.06 capabilities: usb-2.00 configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=6 speed=480.0MB/s So, one of the pairs is USB 2.0 capable. How can I figure out which one it is? I have a USB 2.0 disk on key, but it seems to be the same speed at all the ports. I know that Windows XP tells you that you've plugged a USB 2.0 device into a USB 1.0 interface, how can I get the same info out of [K]Ubuntu? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ajax.html http://yadya.com From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 19 13:56:23 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:56:23 -0200 Subject: Which USB post is 2.0? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612190406p2e7302act6229c0a60f91f4e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612190406p2e7302act6229c0a60f91f4e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612190556t1a13dad1lebd2b0aa38a84408@mail.gmail.com> I'd try sudo lsusb -v Hervé. On 12/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > My machine has 6 USB ports, 2 in the front and 4 in the back. While > playing with lshw I found this: > *-usb:2 > description: USB Controller > product: USB 2.0 Controller > vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] > physical id: 3.3 > bus info: pci at 00:03.3 > version: 00 > width: 32 bits > clock: 33MHz > capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list > configuration: driver=ehci_hcd > resources: iomemory:cffdf000-cffdffff irq:10 > *-usbhost > product: EHCI Host Controller > vendor: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic ehci_hcd > physical id: 1 > bus info: usb at 2 > logical name: usb2 > version: 2.06 > capabilities: usb-2.00 > configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=6 speed=480.0MB/s > > So, one of the pairs is USB 2.0 capable. How can I figure out which > one it is? I have a USB 2.0 disk on key, but it seems to be the same > speed at all the ports. I know that Windows XP tells you that you've > plugged a USB 2.0 device into a USB 1.0 interface, how can I get the > same info out of [K]Ubuntu? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ajax.html > http://yadya.com > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From veritastic at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 14:53:40 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:53:40 -0500 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: Can I update to that somehow? I am terribly new to linux, so command line still scares me and I generally need a walk through. lol. On 12/19/06, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > > On Sunday 17 December 2006 12:28, Scott wrote: > > Chris Rohde spake thusly on 12/16/2006 06:55 PM: > > > Heya All, > > > So, I've recently noticed that in both Firefox and Flock I can only > get > > > maybe 2 or 3 seconds worth of video playback, mostly in youtube > videos. > > > Any idea why? I see the bar keep loading, but can't figure out why it > > > stops playing there. > > > > Well in the case of YouTube (and an ever expanding list of sites with > > video) they utilize Flash. And the current version of Flash for Linux is > > woefully out of date. 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Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the > Institute for Media Education, concludes: "Health-based neurological > observations about the instinctual brain-imprinted response to pornographic > sights and sounds indicates that viewing pornography is a biologically > significant event that overrides informed consent—and that is *harmful* to > children's [moldable] 'plastic' brains because it compromises their grasp of > reality and thus their mental and physical health, their well-being and > their pursuit of happiness." > -- http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2003/7/22/article_03.htm You'll find alot of useful information on the site, like avoiding dangers of the internet, and protect yourself and those you loved (from pornography) I hope you'll all find the site helpful. Regards, Joel -- Carpe Diem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You may find one that strikes the right balance for your situation. -- Drew Einhorn From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Tue Dec 19 15:59:59 2006 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:59:59 +0100 Subject: search problem with evince Message-ID: <20061219155959.GB2888@gmx.de> hi, I am a bit confused why evince would search in one pdf file correctly but in another not. It does not find any result for text that is certainly available in pdf file. This is the file that is not searched correctly: http://www.ti-wmc.nl/eurane/D32v2Seacorn.pdf.gz File needs to be gunzipped before viewing in evince.. Can anyone give me a hint? Or has anyone seen that search problem with evince before?? -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I deserve it. - ---Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiA9KjeziQOokQnARAjZ6AJ9vS1GZzZ4ZplBSQTV2lyAkHJ9oPQCgqJ1A 6S1XW3i73hlujrnhiNaElyU= =Ibtg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 19 16:18:05 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:18:05 -0200 Subject: Has Anyone Successfully Gotten a DWL 122 To Work In Edgy ? (No Text) In-Reply-To: <458729A2.6080007@cox-internet.com> References: <458729A2.6080007@cox-internet.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612190818s74a4f550q5306c79b2923e638@mail.gmail.com> That might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4041.html Look at the posts from 'azz'; (s)he seems to have had success only using ndiswrapper. Hervé. On 12/18/06, Stu Green wrote: > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 19 16:32:44 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:32:44 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> Message-ID: <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I'll be the first to admit that I'm in a case of brain freeze. I've > brought up a new ubuntu (actually kubuntu, but the configuration should > be the same) box. I've installed apache and php4. When I try to view a > .php page, I'm getting an error telling me that apache doesn't know what > to do with php files. > > Would someone be so kind as to let me know what I've omitted? It won't > bother me if you laugh at me as you do ... I deserve it. I don't think it's all you; I managed to 'prang' my apache2 webserver in that way...SO MUCH that the lil'SOB was doing it with almost all the webserver parts removed! (The problem was masked by Firefox's caching "feature"). See if you have libapache2-php(4 or 5) installed. For some reason on mine, it got left out. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiBQs6PLtRzZbdhYRAp21AJ46XxVQB+B7ze6BCEWwpIJiY2zO2wCdGnCq 30GXYOWcjpiDBUfmZtm7yWo= =JyYK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Herve at lucidia.net Tue Dec 19 16:35:28 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:35:28 -0200 Subject: Fetching updated packages automatically Message-ID: <4413284c0612190835w7e69fe72t1a55ca44d87367e8@mail.gmail.com> I can see that the script /etc/cron.daily/apt is running apt-get update for me every night. Every night? I think so. Well, it seems to use some variables to determine its behaviour, and I would like to enable the automatic fetching of updated packages. IOW, every night, I want it to apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade, so that I can update when I want without delay. Anybody knows where I should set the option? /etc/apt/* do not seem to do AFAICS... Hervé. From jdavila at hampshire.edu Tue Dec 19 16:49:30 2006 From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:49:30 -0500 Subject: question about VI Message-ID: <4588181A.9050802@hampshire.edu> Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, but I've looked everywhere for an answer, with no luck. I have set vi to auto indent. I'm having an issue with comments and their indentation. Whenever vi sees that I type the # character, it moves it to the leftmost column. I would like the comment to stay at whatever level of indentation my code is at the time. Does anyone have a solution? TIA, Jaime -- ****************************************************** Jaime J. Davila Associate Professor of Computer Science Hampshire College School of Cognitive Science jdavila at hampshire dot edu http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila ******************************************************* From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 19 17:04:40 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:04:40 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45881BA8.1090700@weblore.com> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: >>> OK, I'll be the first to admit that I'm in a case of brain freeze. I've >>> brought up a new ubuntu (actually kubuntu, but the configuration should >>> be the same) box. I've installed apache and php4. When I try to view a >>> .php page, I'm getting an error telling me that apache doesn't know what >>> to do with php files. >>> >>> Would someone be so kind as to let me know what I've omitted? It won't >>> bother me if you laugh at me as you do ... I deserve it. > > I don't think it's all you; I managed to 'prang' my apache2 webserver > in that way...SO MUCH that the lil'SOB was doing it with almost all the > webserver parts removed! (The problem was masked by Firefox's caching > "feature"). > > See if you have libapache2-php(4 or 5) installed. For some reason on > mine, it got left out. I have libapache-mod-php4, but not libapache2-mod-php4 (I don't see a libapache-php4 or libapache2-php4. If there should be one, I need to adjust repositories, pls let me know). Do I need to install the apache2 files even thought I'm not running apache2? From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 17:09:08 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:09:08 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations Message-ID: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Package: apt Version: 0.6.46.4ubuntu4 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install epiphany Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Segmentation fault root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Segmentation fault A strace of dying apt is attached. -- Package-specific info: -- apt-config dump -- APT ""; APT::Architecture "i386"; APT::Build-Essential ""; APT::Build-Essential:: "build-essential"; APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; APT::NeverAutoRemove ""; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image.*"; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-restricted-modules.*"; APT::Install-Recommends-Section "metapackages"; APT::Periodic ""; APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "0"; APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; APT::Archives ""; APT::Archives::MaxAge "30"; APT::Archives::MinAge "2"; APT::Archives::MaxSize "500"; APT::Acquire ""; APT::Acquire::Translation "environment"; Dir "/"; Dir::State "var/lib/apt/"; Dir::State::lists "lists/"; Dir::State::cdroms "cdroms.list"; Dir::State::userstatus "status.user"; Dir::State::status "/var/lib/dpkg/status"; Dir::Cache "var/cache/apt/"; Dir::Cache::archives "archives/"; Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache "srcpkgcache.bin"; Dir::Cache::pkgcache "pkgcache.bin"; Dir::Etc "etc/apt/"; Dir::Etc::sourcelist "sources.list"; Dir::Etc::sourceparts "sources.list.d"; Dir::Etc::vendorlist "vendors.list"; Dir::Etc::vendorparts "vendors.list.d"; Dir::Etc::main "apt.conf"; Dir::Etc::parts "apt.conf.d"; Dir::Etc::preferences "preferences"; Dir::Bin ""; Dir::Bin::methods "/usr/lib/apt/methods"; Dir::Bin::dpkg "/usr/bin/dpkg"; aptitude ""; aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$"; Unattended-Upgrade ""; Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins ""; Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins:: "Ubuntu feisty-security"; DPkg ""; DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs ""; DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true"; DPkg::Post-Invoke ""; DPkg::Post-Invoke:: "if [ -d /var/lib/update-notifier ]; then touch /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp; fi"; -- /etc/apt/preferences -- Package: libnspr4 Pin: version 1.7.12-1ubuntu2 Pin-Priority: 1002 -- /etc/apt/sources.list -- deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs edgy main universe deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main deb http://aszt.inf.elte.hu/~lorentey/mirror/apt unstable multi-tty deb http://people.debian.org/~pvaneynd/cl-dapper-packages ./ # deb http://eros.vlo.gda.pl/~szuwarek/files/linux/bmpx/dapper ./ -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers feisty APT policy: (500, 'feisty') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-mm3-betelheise Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages apt depends on: ii libc6 2.5-0ubuntu5 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libgcc1 1:4.1.1-21ubuntu2 GCC support library ii libstdc++6 4.1.1-21ubuntu2 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 Versions of packages apt recommends: ii ubuntu-keyring 2005.01.12.1 GnuPG keys of the Ubuntu archive -- no debconf information -------------- next part -------------- tla tree-lint | egrep ""\|e -v -x | grep apparent -v | ( read str; while test ! -z "$str"; do tla add "$str" read str; done ) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sucks they don't give more warning for a root drive share, though. peace, cameron -- AIM&Y!: desk003com From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Tue Dec 19 17:26:17 2006 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:26:17 +0100 Subject: dependency conflict Message-ID: <20061219172617.GC2888@gmx.de> hi, I would like to install debug symbols for package evince, but it gives following error message: evince-dbgsym: Depends upon: »evince (=0.6.1-0ubuntu1)«, but »0.6.1-0ubuntu1.2« is installed. what should I do? Wait for a new version of evince-dbgsym that resolves the conflict (but it already two weeks gone since the last update for evince -- 0.6.1-0ubuntu1.2 -- came). Or should I install with "-f" option to apt-get? Any ideas are much appreciated. /Regards, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 19 17:34:00 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:34:00 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <45881BA8.1090700@weblore.com> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> <45881BA8.1090700@weblore.com> Message-ID: <45882288.8010609@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> Michael Satterwhite wrote: >>>> OK, I'll be the first to admit that I'm in a case of brain freeze. I've >>>> brought up a new ubuntu (actually kubuntu, but the configuration should >>>> be the same) box. I've installed apache and php4. When I try to view a >>>> .php page, I'm getting an error telling me that apache doesn't know what >>>> to do with php files. >>>> >>>> Would someone be so kind as to let me know what I've omitted? It won't >>>> bother me if you laugh at me as you do ... I deserve it. >> I don't think it's all you; I managed to 'prang' my apache2 webserver >> in that way...SO MUCH that the lil'SOB was doing it with almost all the >> webserver parts removed! (The problem was masked by Firefox's caching >> "feature"). >> >> See if you have libapache2-php(4 or 5) installed. For some reason on >> mine, it got left out. > > I have libapache-mod-php4, but not libapache2-mod-php4 (I don't see a > libapache-php4 or libapache2-php4. If there should be one, I need to > adjust repositories, pls let me know). Do I need to install the apache2 > files even thought I'm not running apache2? Yeah, it looks that way; when I installed phpwiki (unsuccessfully) it installed libapache*2*-php5-cli or whatever. The plan seems to have been that Apache(1) uses libapache-*, and Apache 2 uses libapache2-*, but it doesn't always end up that way. What I finally had to do was: Remove *all* apache/php packages, kill-n-restart the browser, and install the base package, making sure the libapache-* stuff made it. For some reason, php (at least 4) is more than happy to load without any apache, though I've seen very, very, very little programs that run without it. Just remember that the browser (and most browsers, I'll wager) will cache the results- pstree will show no apache running, but it'll still be happy to act as if it is, and it's going to shove it all to you in un-rendered PHP. :/ - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiCKI6PLtRzZbdhYRAsQ8AJ996p5Z1ga/pSRDCskdnYdR3BCD+ACcCZ94 Ww5Rcc+gdW6rNCiCv3oQ5c4= =mhZO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Dec 19 17:43:20 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:43:20 -0500 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Message-ID: <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Samium Gromoff wrote: > Package: apt > Version: 0.6.46.4ubuntu4 > Severity: critical > Justification: breaks the whole system > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install epiphany > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Segmentation fault > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Segmentation fault This is likely bug 75273[0]. [0] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/75273 Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiCSce9GwFciKvaMRAl5zAJ9G9CCl1YBCcARSN3CR8kglik10TACgtUdg YJnZXEpcILB84xGk93oi5hA= =3OfQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 19 17:51:53 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:51:53 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <45882288.8010609@fahrlander.net> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> <45881BA8.1090700@weblore.com> <45882288.8010609@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458826B9.204@weblore.com> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: >>> Brian Fahrlander wrote: >>>> Michael Satterwhite wrote: >>>>>> OK, I'll be the first to admit that I'm in a case of brain freeze. I've >>>>>> brought up a new ubuntu (actually kubuntu, but the configuration should >>>>>> be the same) box. I've installed apache and php4. When I try to view a >>>>>> .php page, I'm getting an error telling me that apache doesn't know what >>>>>> to do with php files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would someone be so kind as to let me know what I've omitted? It won't >>>>>> bother me if you laugh at me as you do ... I deserve it. >>>> I don't think it's all you; I managed to 'prang' my apache2 webserver >>>> in that way...SO MUCH that the lil'SOB was doing it with almost all the >>>> webserver parts removed! (The problem was masked by Firefox's caching >>>> "feature"). >>>> >>>> See if you have libapache2-php(4 or 5) installed. For some reason on >>>> mine, it got left out. >>> I have libapache-mod-php4, but not libapache2-mod-php4 (I don't see a >>> libapache-php4 or libapache2-php4. If there should be one, I need to >>> adjust repositories, pls let me know). Do I need to install the apache2 >>> files even thought I'm not running apache2? > > Yeah, it looks that way; when I installed phpwiki (unsuccessfully) > it installed libapache*2*-php5-cli or whatever. > > The plan seems to have been that Apache(1) uses libapache-*, and > Apache 2 uses libapache2-*, but it doesn't always end up that way. What > I finally had to do was: > > Remove *all* apache/php packages, kill-n-restart the browser, and > install the base package, making sure the libapache-* stuff made it. > For some reason, php (at least 4) is more than happy to load without any > apache, though I've seen very, very, very little programs that run > without it. > > Just remember that the browser (and most browsers, I'll wager) will > cache the results- pstree will show no apache running, but it'll still > be happy to act as if it is, and it's going to shove it all to you in > un-rendered PHP. :/ OK, I removed all php files, then restarted apache. I then installed php4, and both libapache-mod-php4 and libapache2-mod-php4 came with it. I restarted apache again, killed all running copies of firefox and retried loading a phpinfo.php page. I still get the error telling me that I'm trying to load a php file and asking me what I want to do with it. From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 19 17:57:33 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:57:33 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <458826B9.204@weblore.com> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> <45881BA8.1090700@weblore.com> <45882288.8010609@fahrlander.net> <458826B9.204@weblore.com> Message-ID: <4588280D.7010207@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I removed all php files, then restarted apache. I then installed > php4, and both libapache-mod-php4 and libapache2-mod-php4 came with it. > I restarted apache again, killed all running copies of firefox and > retried loading a phpinfo.php page. I still get the error telling me > that I'm trying to load a php file and asking me what I want to do with it. God, that's annoying; I had about 4 hours of it the other day. See php.net; they have an installation FAQ; it's all about not rendering the pages. I think what you'll find is your old config files are still around. In my case, it was rendering *even*HTML* as if it was PHP, but the same root cause is no doubt involved: config files. PHP.net has the answer. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiCgM6PLtRzZbdhYRAvjGAJ0bEmAUAr0OmAqTbBmO/E8W8JmTCgCbB+WW xf3bwHlPrGAj2Bb/6KAW15o= =N/0J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 18:02:55 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:02:55 +0300 Subject: apt: SEGVs on most operations Message-ID: <20061219180255.24570.30080.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Package: apt Version: 0.6.46.4ubuntu4 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system Basically apt-get install, apt-get -f dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade all SEGV: root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Segmentation fault The strace of death is attached. Downgrading to 0.6.46.4ubuntu3 solves the issue. -- Package-specific info: -- apt-config dump -- APT ""; APT::Architecture "i386"; APT::Build-Essential ""; APT::Build-Essential:: "build-essential"; APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; APT::NeverAutoRemove ""; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image.*"; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-restricted-modules.*"; APT::Install-Recommends-Section "metapackages"; APT::Periodic ""; APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "0"; APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; APT::Archives ""; APT::Archives::MaxAge "30"; APT::Archives::MinAge "2"; APT::Archives::MaxSize "500"; APT::Acquire ""; APT::Acquire::Translation "environment"; Dir "/"; Dir::State "var/lib/apt/"; Dir::State::lists "lists/"; Dir::State::cdroms "cdroms.list"; Dir::State::userstatus "status.user"; Dir::State::status "/var/lib/dpkg/status"; Dir::Cache "var/cache/apt/"; Dir::Cache::archives "archives/"; Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache "srcpkgcache.bin"; Dir::Cache::pkgcache "pkgcache.bin"; Dir::Etc "etc/apt/"; Dir::Etc::sourcelist "sources.list"; Dir::Etc::sourceparts "sources.list.d"; Dir::Etc::vendorlist "vendors.list"; Dir::Etc::vendorparts "vendors.list.d"; Dir::Etc::main "apt.conf"; Dir::Etc::parts "apt.conf.d"; Dir::Etc::preferences "preferences"; Dir::Bin ""; Dir::Bin::methods "/usr/lib/apt/methods"; Dir::Bin::dpkg "/usr/bin/dpkg"; aptitude ""; aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$"; Unattended-Upgrade ""; Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins ""; Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins:: "Ubuntu feisty-security"; DPkg ""; DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs ""; DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true"; DPkg::Post-Invoke ""; DPkg::Post-Invoke:: "if [ -d /var/lib/update-notifier ]; then touch /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp; fi"; -- /etc/apt/preferences -- Package: libnspr4 Pin: version 1.7.12-1ubuntu2 Pin-Priority: 1002 -- /etc/apt/sources.list -- deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs edgy main universe deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main deb http://aszt.inf.elte.hu/~lorentey/mirror/apt unstable multi-tty deb http://people.debian.org/~pvaneynd/cl-dapper-packages ./ # deb http://eros.vlo.gda.pl/~szuwarek/files/linux/bmpx/dapper ./ -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers feisty APT policy: (500, 'feisty') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-mm3-betelheise Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages apt depends on: ii libc6 2.5-0ubuntu5 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libgcc1 1:4.1.1-21ubuntu2 GCC support library ii libstdc++6 4.1.1-21ubuntu2 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 Versions of packages apt recommends: ii ubuntu-keyring 2005.01.12.1 GnuPG keys of the Ubuntu archive -- no debconf information -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Look in your apache.conf file for the following line(s) LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so //modify it to match version of php AddType application/x-httpd-php .php //this tells apache to parse .php files as php. HTH mark From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 18:07:29 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:29 +0300 Subject: launchpad-integration bails out with an error Message-ID: <20061219180729.27495.33731.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> Package: launchpad-integration Version: 0.1.4.3 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Launching launchpad-integration has the following effect: deepfire at betelheise:~$ launchpad-integration Name: Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 5, in ? File "/usr/share/launchpad-integration/launchpadintegration/main.py", line 57, in main print 'Name:', pkginfo.binarypackage AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'binarypackage' -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers feisty APT policy: (500, 'feisty') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-mm3-betelheise Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages launchpad-integration depends on: ii lsb-release 3.1-22ubuntu1 Linux Standard Base version report ii python 2.4.4-1ubuntu2 An interactive high-level object-o Versions of packages launchpad-integration recommends: ii libgnome2-0 2.17.1-0ubuntu1 The GNOME 2 library - runtime file -- no debconf information From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 19 18:08:39 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:08:39 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked - FIXED In-Reply-To: <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <4588142C.7090504@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <45882AA7.30905@weblore.com> First, thanks, Brian, for getting me thinking. I obviously did something in the wrong order to get things broken. Regardless, once my brain started working again, it seemed that - for whatever reason - the php modules weren't being loaded. OK, that list is in /etc/apache/modules.conf. When I looked, sure enough there was no command to load php4. I added the line LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so (after looking to make sure it was there). After I restarted apache, php was working. ---Michael From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 18:20:48 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:20:48 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:43:20 -0500, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Samium Gromoff wrote: [snip] > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install epiphany > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > Segmentation fault > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > Segmentation fault > > This is likely bug 75273[0]. > > [0] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/75273 This might be, but i think this is unlikely. from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/ : libapt-pkg-dev_0.6.46.4ubuntu3_i386.deb 18-Dec-2006 13:04 -- this version is ok libapt-pkg-dev_0.6.46.4ubuntu4_i386.deb 19-Dec-2006 11:04 -- this version breaks And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last working version was released. regards, Samium Gromoff From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 18:30:08 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:30:08 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> Message-ID: <87odpzivrj.wl@betelheise.deep.net> At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:20:48 +0300, Samium Gromoff wrote: > libapt-pkg-dev_0.6.46.4ubuntu3_i386.deb 18-Dec-2006 13:04 -- this version is ok > libapt-pkg-dev_0.6.46.4ubuntu4_i386.deb 19-Dec-2006 11:04 -- this version breaks ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ apt, of course, and the relation still holds... > And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last > working version was released. > > regards, Samium Gromoff From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 19 18:39:05 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:39:05 -0600 Subject: PHP and being brain locked In-Reply-To: <458829A4.1050800@ohio.edu> References: <45880F4B.1010506@weblore.com> <458829A4.1050800@ohio.edu> Message-ID: <458831C9.2040905@weblore.com> Mark Mace wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> OK, I'll be the first to admit that I'm in a case of brain freeze. I've >> brought up a new ubuntu (actually kubuntu, but the configuration should >> be the same) box. I've installed apache and php4. When I try to view a >> ..php page, I'm getting an error telling me that apache doesn't know what >> to do with php files. >> >> Would someone be so kind as to let me know what I've omitted? It won't >> bother me if you laugh at me as you do ... I deserve it. > > sounds like apache doesn't know what to do with php files. Look in your > apache.conf file for the following line(s) > > LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so > //modify it to match version of php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > //this tells apache to parse .php files as php. I'd done the latter, but forgot the former. ubuntu separates the configuration files, and the LoadModule commands are in modules.conf. Being I didn't *SEE* the LoadModule command when I was editing httpd.conf, I didn't think of it (brain freeze). Ah, well. At least now it's working. ---Michael From crimsun at fungus.sh.nu Tue Dec 19 18:53:04 2006 From: crimsun at fungus.sh.nu (Daniel T. Chen) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:53:04 -0500 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <87odpzivrj.wl@betelheise.deep.net> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> <87odpzivrj.wl@betelheise.deep.net> Message-ID: <45883510.3090103@fungus.sh.nu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Samium Gromoff wrote: >> And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last >> working version was released. Have you tried the workaround in that bug report? Thanks, - -- Daniel T. Chen crimsun at ubuntu.com GPG key: 0xC88ABDA3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiDUQe9GwFciKvaMRArRGAKCFRf4peI5yG7kbXZJjTwYg4pRgWgCgx8ae CwpyEGIOLLrwQCrDf3Kom+Y= =JESr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 19:34:45 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:34:45 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <45883510.3090103@fungus.sh.nu> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> <87odpzivrj.wl@betelheise.deep.net> <45883510.3090103@fungus.sh.nu> Message-ID: <87mz5jisru.wl@betelheise.deep.net> At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:53:04 -0500, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Samium Gromoff wrote: > >> And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last > >> working version was released. > > Have you tried the workaround in that bug report? Yes, i tried it again, and it helps. I was under impression it didn't, when i first seen it, though... regards, Samium Gromoff From bob55 at ntlworld.com Tue Dec 19 19:37:37 2006 From: bob55 at ntlworld.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:37:37 +0000 Subject: TV card software? References: <20061219072244.942f92ad.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <200612190755.kBJ7t8On028539@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <$7qauLDB+DiFFwLg@ntlworld.com> In message <200612190755.kBJ7t8On028539 at smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com>, Trevor Nye writes >Tvtime will work with your card then I am running it on my machine. > >Good luck > > > Thanks for the suggestions Guys. I'll be trying them all shortly. Bob From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 19:44:44 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:44:44 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <87mz5jisru.wl@betelheise.deep.net> References: <20061219170908.24150.23519.reportbug@betelheise.deep.net> <458824B8.6040208@fungus.sh.nu> <87psafiw73.wl@betelheise.deep.net> <87odpzivrj.wl@betelheise.deep.net> <45883510.3090103@fungus.sh.nu> <87mz5jisru.wl@betelheise.deep.net> Message-ID: <87lkl3isb7.wl@betelheise.deep.net> At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:34:45 +0300, Samium Gromoff wrote: > > At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:53:04 -0500, > Daniel T. Chen wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Samium Gromoff wrote: > > >> And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last > > >> working version was released. > > > > Have you tried the workaround in that bug report? > > Yes, i tried it again, and it helps. > > I was under impression it didn't, when i first seen it, though... > > regards, Samium Gromoff Oh, i am sorry for the continuous confusion from my side... root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install seahorse Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done seahorse is already the newest version. Segmentation fault root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Segmentation fault So, no, it does not help. regards, Samium Gromoff From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 20:29:53 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:29:53 +0000 Subject: Fetching updated packages automatically In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612190835w7e69fe72t1a55ca44d87367e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612190835w7e69fe72t1a55ca44d87367e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/19/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > I can see that the script /etc/cron.daily/apt is running apt-get > update for me every night. Every night? I think so. > Well, it seems to use some variables to determine its behaviour, and I > would like to enable the automatic fetching of updated packages. > > IOW, every night, I want it to apt-get update && apt-get -d > dist-upgrade, so that I can update when I want without delay. > > Anybody knows where I should set the option? /etc/apt/* do not seem to > do AFAICS... You didn't mention what version you're running, but on Edgy (6.10), the option you want to set is in System/Administration/Software Sources. Click on the Internet Updates tab. There you can set how often you want to check for updates and whether to download (and even install) new packages automatically. -Eamonn From cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk Tue Dec 19 20:34:50 2006 From: cyclewood_ltd at yahoo.co.uk (Anthony Gardner) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:34:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: USB Speakers / Mouse Message-ID: <833867.91883.qm@web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Grussen, I have lovely usb speakers and a lovely usb mouse which work, so far, flawlessly on dapper (kubuntu). But .............. if I have to unplug them for any reason while the system is up and running, and then plug them in again ........... they don;t work anymore. Is there a command I can run that will 'restart' them instead of having to restart the machine? 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Thanks Linda From bob55 at ntlworld.com Tue Dec 19 20:54:55 2006 From: bob55 at ntlworld.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:54:55 +0000 Subject: TV card software? References: <20061219072244.942f92ad.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <200612190755.kBJ7t8On028539@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: In message <200612190755.kBJ7t8On028539 at smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com>, Trevor Nye writes >Tvtime will work with your card then I am running it on my machine. > >Good luck > > > I have now tried both Xdtv and Tvtime. Xdtv appeared to install okay but after running it from the command line, didn't seem to give me much more that Xawtv already offered. Tvtime not only installed perfectly but also added itself into the Sound & Vision menu so it was already winning. :-) Perfect picture too so that is the one I'll be keeping. And the sound problem? Gnome ALSA Mixer proved to be the culprit with having the 'line in' unchecked. Now working fine. Thanks to all, Bob From gnomefreak at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 21:12:56 2006 From: gnomefreak at gmail.com (John Vivirito) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:12:56 -0500 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations Message-ID: <458855D8.8070703@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:34:45 +0300, > Samium Gromoff wrote: >> > >> > At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:53:04 -0500, >> > Daniel T. Chen wrote: >>> > > >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> > > Hash: SHA1 >>> > > >>> > > Samium Gromoff wrote: >>>>> > > >> And the bug report on launchpad is dated about half a week back before the last >>>>> > > >> working version was released. >>> > > >>> > > Have you tried the workaround in that bug report? >> > >> > Yes, i tried it again, and it helps. >> > >> > I was under impression it didn't, when i first seen it, though... >> > >> > regards, Samium Gromoff > > Oh, i am sorry for the continuous confusion from my side... > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install seahorse > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > seahorse is already the newest version. > Segmentation fault > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Segmentation fault > > So, no, it does not help. > > regards, Samium Gromoff Is this on Edgy or Feisty. Can you file a bug report and attach the crash report in /var/crash so we can see what its crashing on. More than likely it is apt-index-watcher curropting the cache for apt. In feisty this has been fixed. it has been fixed in edgy just not uploaded yet, ut i would like to see the crash reports so we can pin point exactly what is going on there. Also the subject of this thread implies that its only some apt/synaptic/adept related commands/apps. IIRC it has to do with libapt (so anything using libapt is gonna crash) that excludes aptitude and smartpm. - -- GnomeFreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito https://launchpad.net/people/gnomefreak http://freewebs.com/ubuntufreak Linux User# 414246 Ubuntu User# 8175 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiFXYqig4QTwcPCoRAtE7AKCBgAHR47yczNTVQso9vlxgZpNLDgCePd4M QGBskizmPVnBEoxjhT4sVlE= =okh7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 21:25:05 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:25:05 +0200 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk Message-ID: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> I've got a file pictures.iso that I don't remember what is on it. How can I mount it without burning it to a disk? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/476/tlc.php From _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru Tue Dec 19 21:27:01 2006 From: _deepfire at feelingofgreen.ru (Samium Gromoff) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:27:01 +0300 Subject: apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations In-Reply-To: <458855D8.8070703@gmail.com> References: <458855D8.8070703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87k60ninkq.wl@betelheise.deep.net> At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:12:56 -0500, John Vivirito wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > At Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:34:45 +0300, > > Samium Gromoff wrote: [snip] > > Oh, i am sorry for the continuous confusion from my side... > > > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get install seahorse > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > seahorse is already the newest version. > > Segmentation fault > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin > > root at betelheise:/home/deepfire # apt-get upgrade > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > Segmentation fault > > > > So, no, it does not help. > > > > regards, Samium Gromoff > > Is this on Edgy or Feisty. Feisty. > Can you file a bug report and attach the crash report in /var/crash > so we can see what its crashing on. Via Malone? Btw, i have one thing as a wish here... Using a web-interface is a PITA, for me. There is documentation for using Malone via email, but it is too cumbersome and does not appear to have the same level of automagical information collection capacity as reportbug. Would Ubuntu consider having a semi-anonymous[1] bugreport collection mechanism with a console interface analogous to reportbug? > More than likely it is apt-index-watcher curropting the cache for apt. > In feisty this has been fixed. it has been fixed in edgy just not uploaded yet, > ut i would like to see the crash reports so we can pin point exactly what > is going on there. > Also the subject of this thread implies that its only some > apt/synaptic/adept related commands/apps. IIRC it has to do with libapt > (so anything using libapt is gonna crash) that excludes aptitude and > smartpm. I upgraded from 0.6.46.4ubuntu3 to 0.6.46.4ubuntu4 yesterday, and also i use only apt, which means most of things are out of the loop for me... > - -- > GnomeFreak [1] i say semi because malone appears to require strong authentication, as opposed to forgeable email headers, which reportbug uses regards, Samium Gromoff From luis.strano at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 21:27:12 2006 From: luis.strano at gmail.com (Luis Felipe Strano Moraes) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:27:12 -0200 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk In-Reply-To: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: mount -o loop -t iso9660 pictures.iso hth, --lf On 12/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I've got a file pictures.iso that I don't remember what is on it. How > can I mount it without burning it to a disk? Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/476/tlc.php > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- "What comes and goes within those dull, dry pair of eyes What he lost, what he gained ... And what he saw in the infinite outskirts of the Internet ... Inside the virtual reality, the complex code... What is he thinking about ? Where do these unseen dreams go ?" BPS From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 22:00:17 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:00:17 +0200 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612191400v338e4d80na2d259c95b631556@mail.gmail.com> On 19/12/06, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes wrote: > mount -o loop -t iso9660 pictures.iso > > hth, > --lf > Thanks! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/80/51/backstreet_boys/backstreet_boys.php http://dotancohen.com/howto/linksyssetup/index.php From oaliu at hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 22:17:34 2006 From: oaliu at hotmail.com (Osiozekhai Aliu) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:17:34 +0000 Subject: BCM4318.all.tar.gz Message-ID: Hi Everybody, Does someone have this file or knows where to get it? BCM4318.all.tar.gz -- mit freundlichen Grüßen Osiozekhai Aliu _________________ EYECATCH-MEDIA Email: osio at eyecatch-media.de Tel.: 49 40 35564501 Mobil: 49 176 21252986 Skype: osioaliu www.eyecatch-media.de _________________________________________________________________ Sie suchen E-Mails, Dokumente oder Fotos? Die neue MSN Suche Toolbar mit Windows-Desktopsuche liefert in sekundenschnelle Ergebnisse. Jetzt neu! http://desktop.msn.de/ Jetzt gratis downloaden! From runlevel7 at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 22:34:50 2006 From: runlevel7 at gmail.com (Al Gordon) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:34:50 -0500 Subject: Samba: meet LDAP In-Reply-To: <45846F89.7030505@fahrlander.net> References: <458194C3.5030703@fahrlander.net> <45846F89.7030505@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: On 12/16/06, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > I've not wrangled Microsoft in many years...what's the Machine entry > for? Is there something unholy about using one's account from a > different machine? Microsoft network environments let you identify different machines for purposes of setting Group Policy, etc. So, you need to be able to identify each machine in order to join it to a management domain, and assign it to various groups, each of which has its own set of associated policies. You can put policies in place that, for example, make sure that all of the Marketing PCs get all of the marketing-specific apps auto-installed on them over the network, and that the tech support guys do not. User accounts also belong to one or more groups, and can have resources mapped to them via their group memberships. You can create groups that are location specific as well, so that any machine added to "Building 2" uses the appropriate outbound SMTP settings, and so on. I have heard that Samba 4 is going to implement AD/Group Policy kinds of features, but I have not actually done any real looking into that yet. -- -- AL -- From oneida at tpg.com.au Tue Dec 19 23:03:13 2006 From: oneida at tpg.com.au (Shelagh Manton) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:03:13 +1100 Subject: search problem with evince References: <20061219155959.GB2888@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:59:59 +0100, Luqman wrote: > hi, > > I am a bit confused why evince would search in one pdf file correctly > but in another not. It does not find any result for text that is > certainly available in pdf file. > > This is the file that is not searched correctly: > http://www.ti-wmc.nl/eurane/D32v2Seacorn.pdf.gz File needs to be > gunzipped before viewing in evince.. > > Can anyone give me a hint? Or has anyone seen that search problem with > evince before?? Some pdfs are not made from text and transformed to the pdf format. They are scanned pictures of pages. I think this might be why you cannot search for words because the book is actually pictures not words. I tried the pdftotext utility and it just output gobbledygook. So, not much text in that document. Shelagh From ben at cvrse.com Tue Dec 19 23:27:28 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:27:28 +1100 Subject: BCM4318.all.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061219232728.GA32064@rip.cvrse.com> * Osiozekhai Aliu wrote: > Hi Everybody, > Does someone have this file or knows where to get it? > BCM4318.all.tar.gz http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=BCM4318.all.tar.gz&btnG=Google+Search the first entry is ubuntu related and links to that file. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Every time I add a link, it's down or no longer available. Frustrating! yes, I'm knew to Ubuntu. Dennis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Dec 20 02:05:32 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:05:32 -0500 Subject: problem accessing userfiles on XP In-Reply-To: <20061219111414.294409.bdf414d5@desk003.com> References: <200612190555.27812.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20061219111414.294409.bdf414d5@desk003.com> Message-ID: <200612192105.32189.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Tuesday 19 December 2006 12:14 pm, cameron conner wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:55:27 -0500, Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I'm using SMB4K to mount a WinXP box across my home LAN. I can read > > all the > > user files except for those contained in the directory owned by an > > administrator account. Anyone know how to open that account on the > > LAN only? > > TIA > > Paul > > You need to share that user's folder. Windows is kinda good with that, > actually. Sucks they don't give more warning for a root drive share, > though. So how come I don't have to share the directories of non administrator account users to see them? Seems like pretty weak security, but then isn't that why we prefer Linux. Paul From vramnum10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 03:44:33 2006 From: vramnum10 at gmail.com (User Iam) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:44:33 -0800 Subject: install of 6.10 on a desktop In-Reply-To: <1166502617.9044.4.camel@toby-desktop> References: <1166502617.9044.4.camel@toby-desktop> Message-ID: <727fc2ee0612191944p2f84d5d1ub86e9ad514ae6e44@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/06, helen johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 12:38 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: > > I'm trying to install 6.10 on a computer. > > > > Everything runs find off of the live CD. The scanner scans, the web > camera > > works, the internet works, everything is fine. > > > > However, when I go to install to the hard drive, after entering user > info, > > partitioning, etc, the screen says installing software. > > > > When it gets to 59%, it stops. And I do mean stops. No drive access > light, > > no cd spinning, nothing. > > > > I've tried it several times. > > > > My question is, is there someway to find out what is going on? There is > no > > info displayed on the screen, other than the status bar. > > > > How do I dig in and find out what is going wrong? > > > > Or, is there some way to do a non-graphic install of the CD? Would that > give > > me more information, possibly? > > > > Any ideas are welcome! > > > > TIA, > > Dave put the install cd in the cdrom and leave it loaded and running > overnight > then get up next day and click install! It worked for me! Dave? do u > have an hp computer, or an athalon xp ?........paul > > Dave > > > > Check the other screens... I forget which one it is.. Try them all till you have LUCK!!!! Sounds like a bad hard drive to me.. When I had that problem.. It was the Hard Drive User Iam -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Dec 20 05:55:30 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:55:30 +0100 Subject: w32codecs respositories References: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <877iwn5cx9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Dennis Castanos writes: > Which repositories will connect to "sudo gedit /etc/sources.list" to add > w32codecs so that I can install?  Every time I add a link, it's down or no > longer available.  Frustrating!  > yes, I'm knew to Ubuntu.  The debian-multimedia repository is pretty stable: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From smccuan at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 06:28:58 2006 From: smccuan at gmail.com (Shawn McCuan) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:28:58 -0500 Subject: w32codecs respositories In-Reply-To: <877iwn5cx9.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <877iwn5cx9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: You can also install them via Automatix. (getautomatix.com -> installation) They are included in the "AUD-DVD" selection. Keep in mind the legality of these particular codecs are questionable in the USA. On 12/20/06, John L Fjellstad wrote: > > Dennis Castanos writes: > > > Which repositories will connect to "sudo gedit /etc/sources.list" to add > > w32codecs so that I can install? Every time I add a link, it's down or > no > > longer available. Frustrating! > > yes, I'm knew to Ubuntu. > > The debian-multimedia repository is pretty stable: > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main > > -- > John L. Fjellstad > web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Shawn McCuan smccuan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben at cvrse.com Wed Dec 20 06:50:43 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:50:43 +1100 Subject: Gmail ??? In-Reply-To: <45391f280612190315ua4bce9br9d6b91713dd1a620@mail.gmail.com> References: <45858196.30805@tampabay.rr.com> <45864DFB.30104@angrykeyboarder.com> <45391f280612190315ua4bce9br9d6b91713dd1a620@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061220065043.GA9555@rip.cvrse.com> * Steve Flynn wrote: > On 18/12/06, Scott wrote: > > > >So what's wrong with it? > > > >First off - mailing lists! > > > >For some reason (that only some "genius" at Google can grasp) Gmail does > >not include your messages in anything you send to a malling list. You > >won't see them. They don't show up. That doesn't mean they didn't get > >to the list,. Google just doesn't think you need to see them as long as > >everyone else does. > > > I read this list, the IBM-MAIN list and the REXX list via Gmail. I see all > my posts and I see all replies. Perhaps you've got your mailing list > configured to NOT send you your own replies - what you are describing is not > a gmail issue. > > > This can be confusing to say the least. It's been brought to Google's > >attention on many occasions but they seem to think this "feature" is a > >keeper. > > > > Got any cite's for this? > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588&query=mailing+list&topic=&type=f&ctx=search -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From hrapof at common-lisp.ru Wed Dec 20 07:09:44 2006 From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: DHCP References: <20061214074719.GB5312@rip.cvrse.com> <20061214215105.GA6706@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: ben darby cvrse.com> writes: > does running 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' > have the same effect on your machine as your ifdown & ifup? yes > how long does it take to recieve a DHCPOFFER? Well, dhclient may take about a minute to return > 'grep dhclient /var/log/syslog' > whats the output around boot time? Nothing in the logs, but there is running dhclient among the processes after machine reboots and I log in. Merry Christmas! From kristian at zimmer428.net Wed Dec 20 07:29:18 2006 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:29:18 +0100 Subject: MaxDB on Edgy? (revisited) Message-ID: <4588E64E.1050104@zimmer428.net> Folks; still trying to get MaxDB 7.5 to run atop Edgy Eft, and still I'm failing. So far, here's what I know: - maxdb-server-7.5.00 from universe is uninstallable due to unmet dependencies (see [1]). - Stock MaxDB 7.5.x downloaded from mySQL's MaxDB website doesn't work at all because it relies upon LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.something which doesn't work on Edgy (see [2],[3]). - Not sure it would be of help, however, MaxDB 7.6 also is not working on Edgy Eft (see [4]). Finally, all is not well. Reverting to Dapper is not an option on the machine in question as this is a development notebook and the atmel WLAN device never worked with the Dapper kernel. Can anyone provide any other insights that might be of help here? Any ideas of how to run a recent MaxDB version on Edgy? Any sort of input greatly appreciated. :) Thanks and best regards, Kristian [1] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/maxdb-7.5.00/+bug/65342 [2] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/55391 [3] http://www.nabble.com/LD_ASSUME_KERNEL-in-edgy--t2768722.html [4] http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=25087 -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: kawazu at jabber.ccc.de * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 "One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality." (Hundertwasser) From sebastjan.penko at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 07:55:35 2006 From: sebastjan.penko at gmail.com (seba) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:55:35 +0100 Subject: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 140 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9764ea50612192355n484a3c4dq1befb0eb378505a6@mail.gmail.com> > > "Jamie Dobbs" wrote: > > > My Epson Stylus R210 came with a very nifty pirce if software for > Windows > > that allows me to print directly on to printable CDs/DVDs. > > Is there such a program for Ubuntu? > > My searching thus far has not shown up anything. > > cd-circleprint ? apt-cache show cd-circleprint says it has a GUI, but > it's tk, so it might not be very pretty ;-) Apparently it uses perl, and > outputs in postscript. It' s in the universe repository. > > I haven't tried it, but it is only a small download, so it might be worth > a look. > > Peter I have a similar problem with my Canon pixma IP3000 which also support printing onto printable cd-s and it works great on Windows but in linux even found a decent driver for this printer is a pain. I have even bought a driver for it but the output is not what I wanted. So I print my docs and cd / DVD-s on windows. And that is the only thing that's keeping me from total switch to ubuntu. So if someone knows where to get decent drivers for my Pixma and the software for cd printing it would be great :) By the way in windows I use openoffice writer template to print my cd-s but this template doesn't work on linux, weird. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Wed Dec 20 08:50:55 2006 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:50:55 -0300 Subject: Compiling woes Message-ID: <200612200550.56037.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Under Dapper 6.06 New Asus K8v-vm Ultra motherboard. Driver for the integrated sound card comes as a tarball. On compiling the tarball I get an error: checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution I _have_ installed the linux sources and headers. Questions: - Anyone got any idea how do I get my driver to compile ? TIA, Ron. -- It is impossible to defend perfectly against the attack of those who want to die. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From carsten at welcomes-you.com Wed Dec 20 09:52:24 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:52:24 +0100 Subject: Compiling woes In-Reply-To: <200612200550.56037.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200612200550.56037.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <458907D8.5040503@welcomes-you.com> Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: > On compiling the tarball I get an error: > checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h > does not exist. > Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution > I _have_ installed the linux sources and headers. > Questions: > - Anyone got any idea how do I get my driver to compile ? It might be, that (after installing the sources of your kernel), there is a symlink missing (/usr/src/linux pointing to the right kernelsources). Optimally, it should not use /usr/src/linux but /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build HTH Carsten From ben at cvrse.com Wed Dec 20 10:49:57 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:49:57 +1100 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> Message-ID: <20061220104957.GA5578@vaio.cvrse.com> * Chris wrote: > Can I update to that somehow? I am terribly new to linux, so command line > still scares me and I generally need a walk through. lol. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9 -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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linux -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 12:57:13 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:57:13 +0000 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <20061218203801.3c2d7024.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061218203801.3c2d7024.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612200457k233e4a6t8981f4cc5619211@mail.gmail.com> I also have the queue problem of Chris with my usb hp printer (psc 1110). I have also had this problem (that's what I meant with recognize after reboot, my bad...). Of course the printer is still in the database after the reboot, but the system acts like it isn't there. Also the cups auto detection fails after this. I searched a bit further and lsusb doesn't give the right values. On edgy: Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 But it should give (on my working dapper, I dual boot them): Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3011 Hewlett-Packard Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 044f:b304 ThrustMaster, Inc. Firestorm Dual Power Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 So how can this be? Anyone any suggestions? Seems to me that this should be a general usb problem since it doesn't even recognize my crappy Thrustmaster or my iPod when I plug it in. Rutger On 12/18/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > Chris wrote: > > I am using an HP PSC 1210 network printer run off my wife's comp.... > worked > > great in Dapper (my first foray into linux, a week before edgy came out > and > > I upgraded). Now it recognizes the printer, stays after reboots, etc... > but > > every time I print it gets caught up in the queue and my Wife can't even > > > print without clearing the queue and rebooting. > > > > I am guessing it is along the same lines, any advice? > > Whoops, I am afraid I can't help you :-/ > The "ppdev" trick, I kinda found out by accident, but for network > printing, and indeed anything network related in general, I am vastly > incompetent... > > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance. ---Michael From carsten at welcomes-you.com Wed Dec 20 15:40:57 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:40:57 +0100 Subject: PHP4 - Mysql In-Reply-To: <458957B4.4070400@weblore.com> References: <458957B4.4070400@weblore.com> Message-ID: <45895989.10800@welcomes-you.com> Hi Michael, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I'm guessing that the installed module isn't being loaded - but I'm not > sure what command I need to get it loaded. Would someone be so kind as > to point it out to me? I don't have a php4 and apache 1.3 installation at hand, but I might be right with my guess, that you might need to enable extension=mysql.so in php.ini which might be find under /etc/php4/. If not just search for it find /etc -name "php.ini" HTH Carsten From macem at ohio.edu Wed Dec 20 15:57:57 2006 From: macem at ohio.edu (Mark Mace) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:57:57 -0500 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk In-Reply-To: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45895D85.6070009@ohio.edu> Dotan Cohen wrote: > I've got a file pictures.iso that I don't remember what is on it. How > can I mount it without burning it to a disk? Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html > http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/476/tlc.php > using ubuntu 6.10. I can browse to an iso in nautalis (sp?) and double click on it. It opens it much like it would open a .gz file. there is also a way to do it in the command line, but I am quickly loosing that information due to the ease of using the gooey. hth mark From macem at ohio.edu Wed Dec 20 16:03:11 2006 From: macem at ohio.edu (Mark Mace) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:03:11 -0500 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk In-Reply-To: <45895D85.6070009@ohio.edu> References: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> <45895D85.6070009@ohio.edu> Message-ID: <45895EBF.2050808@ohio.edu> Mark Mace wrote: > loosing that information due to the ease of using the gooey. gooey => GUI I'm here really... just my brain's on vacation. From luqman_ngs at gmx.net Wed Dec 20 16:07:04 2006 From: luqman_ngs at gmx.net (Luqman) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:07:04 +0100 Subject: search problem with evince In-Reply-To: References: <20061219155959.GB2888@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20061220160704.GG15827@gmx.de> hi Shelagh, > Shelagh Manton wanted us to know: >> http://www.ti-wmc.nl/eurane/D32v2Seacorn.pdf.gz File needs to be >> gunzipped before viewing in evince.. >> >> Can anyone give me a hint? Or has anyone seen that search problem with >> evince before?? > >Some pdfs are not made from text and transformed to the pdf format. They >are scanned pictures of pages. I think this might be why you cannot search >for words because the book is actually pictures not words. I tried the >pdftotext utility and it just output gobbledygook. So, not much text in >that document. Thanks for clarifying this. /Regards, -- Luqman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From dontodd at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 16:27:45 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:27:45 -0500 Subject: Mounting .iso file on disk In-Reply-To: <45895D85.6070009@ohio.edu> References: <880dece00612191325y78f5e8b3p249d3d3d4c1193f5@mail.gmail.com> <45895D85.6070009@ohio.edu> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612200827x4eee2222vcf1e9dcda6b292a4@mail.gmail.com> On 12/20/06, Mark Mace wrote: > > > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I've got a file pictures.iso that I don't remember what is on it. How > > can I mount it without burning it to a disk? Thanks. > > > using ubuntu 6.10. I can browse to an iso in nautalis (sp?) and double > click on it. It opens it much like it would open a .gz file. > > there is also a way to do it in the command line, but I am quickly > loosing that information due to the ease of using the gooey. Make a directory to mount it in, like /mnt/iso, then use the mount using the loopback option, e.g. mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso Todd From michael at weblore.com Wed Dec 20 16:37:13 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:37:13 -0600 Subject: PHP4 - Mysql In-Reply-To: <45895989.10800@welcomes-you.com> References: <458957B4.4070400@weblore.com> <45895989.10800@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <458966B9.9040503@weblore.com> Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Hi Michael, > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > >> I'm guessing that the installed module isn't being loaded - but I'm not >> sure what command I need to get it loaded. Would someone be so kind as >> to point it out to me? > > I don't have a php4 and apache 1.3 installation at hand, but I might be > right with my guess, that you might need to enable > > extension=mysql.so > > in php.ini which might be find under /etc/php4/. If not just search for it > find /etc -name "php.ini" Thanks, Carsten. I knew it was something of the type, but I couldn't remember where. Appreciate it much From carsten at welcomes-you.com Wed Dec 20 16:40:03 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:40:03 +0100 Subject: How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace In-Reply-To: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> References: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> Message-ID: <45896763.8030402@welcomes-you.com> David Abrahams wrote: > That key combination (standard for X Windows, AFAIK) unceremoniously > restarts my GDM session, killing all the open applications. I've done > it by mistake for the last time. Can somebody tell me how to disable > it? It's not in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts AFAICT. Putting DontZip in your xorg.conf file under Section "ServerFlags" might help - at least it worked in the past for me IIRC. Cheers Carsten From jordi.listas at multivia.com Wed Dec 20 16:43:23 2006 From: jordi.listas at multivia.com (Jordi Espasa Clofent) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:43:23 +0100 Subject: How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace In-Reply-To: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> References: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> Message-ID: <4589682B.1000905@multivia.com> David Abrahams escribió: > That key combination (standard for X Windows, AFAIK) unceremoniously > restarts my GDM session, killing all the open applications. I've done > it by mistake for the last time. Can somebody tell me how to disable > it? It's not in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts AFAICT. > Edit the file /etc/inittab. Only a comment (#) in concrete line is needed. It's easy. ;) -- Jordi Espasa Clofent PGP id 0xC5ABA76A #http://pgp.mit.edu/ FSF Associate Member id 4281 #http://www.fsf.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200612190842.kBJ8gT41003088@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> References: <200612190842.kBJ8gT41003088@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <45896CE1.9010304@yahoo.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This may help: http://xhochy.org/en/2006/11/01/flash-9-co-on-an-amd64-ubuntu-linux/ Trevor Nye schrieb: > I installed automatix, and had two days of grief correcting the problems... > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFiWzhDioBeZGwMqURAgyiAJsG096yBZ0zYh09+Ed2eT8PFNWt8gCg4bbi 6QxqHpAgroGMKlmzoufDIuo= =WnOR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de From cheataah at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 17:55:49 2006 From: cheataah at gmail.com (Cheatah 0#@!^) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:25:49 +0530 Subject: windows reinstalled problems Message-ID: i was running kubuntu 6.06 and winxp on my system. i had some problems with my windows so i formatted the drive and reinstalled windows. now i cant see the boot menu(grub) and the windows automatically boots. is my linux installation completely gone or just the booting is taken control by windows?? if so how can i return to grub boot loader?? From T.Six at gmx.de Wed Dec 20 18:22:54 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:22:54 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad wrote the following on 19.12.2006 05:28: > Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof writes: > >> It's a bit strange that programs like apt aptitude and synaptic can't >> complete a simple task like this. > > I'm not sure it's that simple, because the information (AFAIK) is just > not there. Once a package is installed, the system doesn't keep track > of where the package came from. This is wrong, sorry. $ apt-cache policy nano nano: Installiert:1.3.10-1 Mögliche Pakete:1.3.10-1 Versions-Tabelle: *** 1.3.10-1 0 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ..and e.g. when disabling this repo in sources.list (for testing purpose) in synaptic all packges from there are suddenly amrked as installed localy in "status" tab. So apt keeps track where the packages came from after installing! But what i do not know how to get a list of packges from a specific repo. The above only shows the other way round (show the repo a specific package came from). bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 18:51:10 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:51:10 +0000 Subject: windows reinstalled problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612201051o18e940fcwff6c42c503e932f2@mail.gmail.com> This is a very common problem when windows is reinstalled. When Windows is installed it automatically overwrites the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the primary harddisk (which is listed first in your BIOS). When reinstall I simply change this order (I install windows on a separate physical disk) and after the install I change it back. This is the easiest way. Your problem is easy to solve. Your partitions aren't gone, you just have to put back your grub MBR. If you didn't make a GRUB bootable disk, then you can use the ubuntu live cd and install grub on your MBR again. Just go to a terminal and type 'sudo grub'. Now, in grub you can do this: grub> root (hd0,0) If you are not sure which partition actually holds the boot directory, use the command find, like this: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 This will search for the file name /boot/grub/stage1 and show the devices which contain the file. Once you've set the root device correctly, run the command setup: grub> setup (hd0) Succes! Rutger On 12/20/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > > i was running kubuntu 6.06 and winxp on my system. i had some problems > with my windows so i formatted the drive and reinstalled windows. now > i cant see the boot menu(grub) and the windows automatically boots. is > my linux installation completely gone or just the booting is taken > control by windows?? if so how can i return to grub boot loader?? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From todbot88 at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 18:51:17 2006 From: todbot88 at gmail.com (Tod Merley) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:51:17 -0800 Subject: windows reinstalled problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b5e63cf0612201051t2498ef66i6c0cf24e8c3a5c34@mail.gmail.com> Hi Cheatah! >From what I read it does sound like the Ubuntu installation was formatted over. You do need to understand what is going on with the Master Boot Record when you set up dual boot machines. In XP I would recommend that you use the XP boot loader to access GRUB (the XP/Ubuntu) boot loader on the master boot record loads GRUB as an option). Or use it to simply load Ubuntu as an option. To find out how Google "Ubuntu XP dual boot" and "XP boot loader". Have fun! Tod On 12/20/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > i was running kubuntu 6.06 and winxp on my system. i had some problems > with my windows so i formatted the drive and reinstalled windows. now > i cant see the boot menu(grub) and the windows automatically boots. is > my linux installation completely gone or just the booting is taken > control by windows?? if so how can i return to grub boot loader?? > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From stanb at panix.com Wed Dec 20 19:11:41 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:11:41 -0500 Subject: Making a CD recorder work Message-ID: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> I've used cdrecord and cdrdao in the past on Debian machnes with success. I just installed a HP CD Writer in my Ubuntu machine, and when I run cdrecord -scanbus I get only the following: root at ubuntu:~# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . I have developed some autmated scripts for buring ISO's. and audio CD's using cdrecord, and cdrdao. I'd like to be able to make these work on Ubuntu. What do I need to do to convert these? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 19:46:32 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:46:32 +0000 Subject: no USB in Edgy Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612201146x20792fdj8fce4ecf783cd59c@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I have a strange problem in Edgy. I still have a working dapper installed, but my edgy install doesn't recognize my usb devices like a printer, joystick or iPod. In dapper lsusb gives for example: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3011 Hewlett-Packard Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 044f:b304 ThrustMaster, Inc. Firestorm Dual Power Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 but in Edgy I only get: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 I have gotten my printer to work once in Edgy, but I haven't been able to reproduce it. Hope someone knows what it could be... Cheers, Rutger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Wed Dec 20 20:52:29 2006 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:52:29 +0000 Subject: laptop battery Message-ID: <4589A28D.3040007@btinternet.com> I have a Compaq Presario laptop I think the number is either a 140 or 240, possibly a 140 from what I can recall my sister telling me although it was a while ago when she might have told me. For some reason the battery doesn't last that long even when I have it on charge for hours. Is it me running Orca with Festival or the fact I keep my wireless network enabled which is making the battery last so little time or is it something else? From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Dec 20 20:16:43 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:16:43 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <87d56e5nmc.fsf@fjellstad.org> Thilo Six writes: > John L Fjellstad wrote the following on 19.12.2006 05:28: >> Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof writes: >> >>> It's a bit strange that programs like apt aptitude and synaptic can't >>> complete a simple task like this. >> >> I'm not sure it's that simple, because the information (AFAIK) is just >> not there. Once a package is installed, the system doesn't keep track >> of where the package came from. > > This is wrong, sorry. > > $ apt-cache policy nano > nano: > Installiert:1.3.10-1 > Mögliche Pakete:1.3.10-1 > Versions-Tabelle: > *** 1.3.10-1 0 > 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > ..and e.g. when disabling this repo in sources.list (for testing > purpose) in synaptic all packges from there are suddenly amrked as > installed localy in "status" tab. > > So apt keeps track where the packages came from after installing! > > But what i do not know how to get a list of packges from a specific repo. > The above only shows the other way round (show the repo a specific > package came from). > > bye Thilo No if you look at it, it says the package you have installed has priority 100. The same package is available in the de.archive.ubuntu.com with priority 500. There is no indication that those two packages are identical (as in your installed version came from this particular repository). Your installed package might have come from another repository. Now, some repositories might tag their package version so it makes it obvious (the backports usually do this), but they don't have to. For instance, opera: liem at minerva:~$ apt-cache policy opera opera: Installed: 9.10-20061214.6 Candidate: 9.10-20061214.6 Version table: *** 9.10-20061214.6 0 500 http://deb.opera.com sid/non-free Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status I then remove my opera.com repository from my sources.list liem at minerva:~$ apt-cache policy opera opera: Installed: 9.10-20061214.6 Candidate: 9.10-20061214.6 Version table: *** 9.10-20061214.6 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status No indication which repository the opera package came from. If the system kept track of which repository the package came from, the information should still be available even though I removed the repository from sources.list -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From michael at weblore.com Wed Dec 20 21:35:21 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:35:21 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 Message-ID: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is getting *VERY* weird. Yesterday / today, I had a configuration error that prevented me from opening php files ... apache didn't know what to do with them. After some memory prodding and help, I got the first site to open. Problem: I have another site ON THE SAME SERVER. Both sites are defined in /var/www the same way, by a symlink to the directories containing the ssites. Permissions are identical, both sites have a start page of index.php. The first page opens fine - hence my assumption that the problem was fixed. The second site gives the error You have chosen to open which is a PHTML file Note that no page is named in the message. There is no file with a phtml extension. On the other error, I had seen things like that before, I just had an admitted case of brain freeze. With a little memory jogging from the experts here, I knew where I was going. I've *NEVER* seen anything like this one before. I've been googling for an answer, but so far haven't found anything. The amount of knowledge here is incredible; I'm sure someone has seen this. Any help from anywhere? Thanks in advance. - ---Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiayZjeziQOokQnARAlJMAJ0aZnMCGj2HGiziPaVIN623mO+RBACfVKTL QcfDKppWJWcMnvERLVNuAIE= =X0MP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Wed Dec 20 21:40:01 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:40:01 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox : need help with music sharing... Message-ID: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Hello, I hope someone knows better than me and can help :-) I have been using Edgy for a couple months now, but it's somehow only today that suddenly I am hit with this problem: RB shows me "remote" play lists in the side bar ! I understand that there is a "share music" feature in RB, which allows one to make his play list available to others on his LOCAL network for convenience, but in my case, I don't have a local network, I am just simply connected directly to the internet, and the play lists I see are from people I have never heard of and are probably at the other end of the world from me. I don't know how RB manages to pick these people's play list, but I would rather it to stop, anyone know what could be wrong where, and the cure ? I understand Linux is building a framework (is it this "avahi/zeronconf" thing I keep hearing about ?) to easily share and discover various services on your LOCAL network, which I found marvelous feature and usability wise, but if it is flooded/polluted with millions of stranger's computer services from all over world, it will be quickly rendered useless.... I went to System->Administration->services, and disabled two services (Avahi and xinetd) that according to their description appeared to be related to networking and services. But somehow RB still manages to find remote play lists from complete strangers on the web. Clueless user's seeking help ! ;-) -- Vince From brian at fahrlander.net Wed Dec 20 21:49:37 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:49:37 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> Message-ID: <4589AFF1.2000005@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > This is getting *VERY* weird. > > Yesterday / today, I had a configuration error that prevented me from > opening php files ... apache didn't know what to do with them. After > some memory prodding and help, I got the first site to open. > > Problem: I have another site ON THE SAME SERVER. Both sites are defined > in /var/www the same way, by a symlink to the directories containing the > ssites. Permissions are identical, both sites have a start page of > index.php. > > The first page opens fine - hence my assumption that the problem was fixed. > The second site gives the error > You have chosen to open > > which is a PHTML file > > Note that no page is named in the message. There is no file with a phtml > extension. > > On the other error, I had seen things like that before, I just had an > admitted case of brain freeze. With a little memory jogging from the > experts here, I knew where I was going. I've *NEVER* seen anything like > this one before. I've been googling for an answer, but so far haven't > found anything. > > The amount of knowledge here is incredible; I'm sure someone has seen > this. Any help from anywhere? There is an apache keyword for "symlinks"; maybe it's default behavior is to deny such links, instead of following them. I'd help you look, but I'm walking out the door, and I remember the (very Google-able) keyword. I'll bet this is key. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFia/x6PLtRzZbdhYRAvmhAJ9STVSDb672RavORfEv3iGFHkr62ACeIUri 33aNIk1ukiOYPM+ZNbl7huM= =+HyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ben at cvrse.com Wed Dec 20 21:49:46 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:49:46 +1100 Subject: How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace In-Reply-To: <45896763.8030402@welcomes-you.com> References: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> <45896763.8030402@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <20061220214945.GA6884@rip.cvrse.com> * Carsten Aulbert wrote: > David Abrahams wrote: > > That key combination (standard for X Windows, AFAIK) unceremoniously > > restarts my GDM session, killing all the open applications. I've done > > it by mistake for the last time. Can somebody tell me how to disable > > it? It's not in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts AFAICT. > > Putting DontZip in your xorg.conf file under Section "ServerFlags" might > help - at least it worked in the past for me IIRC. that would be DontZap which is a boolean (man xorg.conf) add this section to the bottom of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file providing it doesnt already contain a serverflags section which it wont by default #--------------- Section "Serverflags" Option "DontZap" "yes" EndSection #--------------- keep in mind though its there for a reason, but if you find yourself ctrl-alt-xx regularly and cant help hitting the backspace i can imagine it would be annoying. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com Wed Dec 20 21:52:03 2006 From: sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com (Matthew Nicholson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:52:03 -0500 Subject: Rhythmbox : need help with music sharing... In-Reply-To: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <1166651523.27948.25.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 22:40 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Hello, > > I hope someone knows better than me and can help :-) > > I have been using Edgy for a couple months now, but it's somehow only > today that suddenly I am hit with this problem: > > RB shows me "remote" play lists in the side bar ! I understand that > there is a "share music" feature in RB, which allows one to make his > play list available to others on his LOCAL network for convenience, > but in my case, I don't have a local network, I am just simply connected > directly to the internet, and the play lists I see are from people I > have never heard of and are probably at the other end of the world > from me. I don't know how RB manages to pick these people's play list, > but I would rather it to stop, anyone know what could be wrong where, > and the cure ? > I understand Linux is building a framework (is it this > "avahi/zeronconf" thing I keep hearing about ?) to easily share and > discover various services on your LOCAL network, which I found marvelous > feature and usability wise, but if it is flooded/polluted with millions > of stranger's computer services from all over world, it will be quickly > rendered useless.... > Well, avahi/zeroconf, as i understand it, will only broadcast to/look for services on, you "local" subnet. So, in my home network, my ip scheme is 192.168.15.*, so, even if I have a system right next to my desktop, if it doesn't have a 192.168.15.* ip (let say i gave it a 192.168.240.* address), they "shouldn't" be able to see each other with avahi/zerconf. Since most users are set up this way, instead of being directly connected, people only see things "around" or "near" , at least in terms of the network layout. I would guess , since you are "directly" connected, you are picking up people running iTunes/rhythmbox etc else where on the network (your ISP's most likley) that are within the same subnet as you... > I went to System->Administration->services, and disabled two services > (Avahi and xinetd) that according to their description appeared to be > related to networking and services. But somehow RB still manages to > find remote play lists from complete strangers on the web. I would go to System->ADministration->Networking, click on the General Tab, and uncheck the "automatic service discovery" checkbox. Also, if you have a firewall/router, you should be able to block whichever port DAAP traffic is on (i don't remember off hand) oh, also if by chance you have wireless, you could be picking up people on the same AP as you... > > Clueless user's seeking help ! ;-) > > > -- > Vince > From michael at weblore.com Wed Dec 20 22:10:12 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:10:12 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <4589AFF1.2000005@fahrlander.net> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589AFF1.2000005@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <4589B4C4.7050806@weblore.com> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: >>> This is getting *VERY* weird. >>> >>> Yesterday / today, I had a configuration error that prevented me from >>> opening php files ... apache didn't know what to do with them. After >>> some memory prodding and help, I got the first site to open. >>> >>> Problem: I have another site ON THE SAME SERVER. Both sites are defined >>> in /var/www the same way, by a symlink to the directories containing the >>> ssites. Permissions are identical, both sites have a start page of >>> index.php. >>> >>> The first page opens fine - hence my assumption that the problem was fixed. >>> The second site gives the error >>> You have chosen to open >>> >>> which is a PHTML file >>> >>> Note that no page is named in the message. There is no file with a phtml >>> extension. >>> >>> On the other error, I had seen things like that before, I just had an >>> admitted case of brain freeze. With a little memory jogging from the >>> experts here, I knew where I was going. I've *NEVER* seen anything like >>> this one before. I've been googling for an answer, but so far haven't >>> found anything. >>> >>> The amount of knowledge here is incredible; I'm sure someone has seen >>> this. Any help from anywhere? > > There is an apache keyword for "symlinks"; maybe it's default > behavior is to deny such links, instead of following them. I'd help you > look, but I'm walking out the door, and I remember the (very > Google-able) keyword. I'll bet this is key. I'll start looking at it, but remember that *BOTH* sites are addressed by symlink. One is working, the other isn't. ... not that apache is always consistent From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Dec 20 22:17:27 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:17:27 -0500 Subject: wifi apps Message-ID: <1166653047.5381.19.camel@localhost> I was looking in the repo's and found airsnort and oinkmaster. Are there better apps than these for detecting and accessing wifi networks? From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Wed Dec 20 22:31:41 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:31:41 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox : need help with music sharing... In-Reply-To: <1166651523.27948.25.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> References: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <1166651523.27948.25.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <20061220233141.6d7752a6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Matthew Nicholson wrote: > Well, avahi/zeroconf, as i understand it, will only broadcast to/look > for services on, you "local" subnet. So, in my home network, my ip > scheme is 192.168.15.*, so, even if I have a system right next to my > desktop, if it doesn't have a 192.168.15.* ip (let say i gave it a > 192.168.240.* address), they "shouldn't" be able to see each other with > avahi/zerconf. > Since most users are set up this way, instead of being directly > connected, people only see things "around" or "near" , at least in terms > of the network layout. > I would guess , since you are "directly" connected, you are picking up > people running iTunes/rhythmbox etc else where on the network (your > ISP's most likley) that are within the same subnet as you... Ahhhh, interesting ! So that means that at any given time, I am potentially connected to up to 255 strangers then, which are never the same as my ISP changes the IP every 24 hours or so I think. So that means that there is no way to share services with friends securely/privately via internet then, as you are never alone on a subnet, obviously... :-/ So Avahi really is purely designed for local networks only then, and should be disabled otherwise. > I would go to System->ADministration->Networking, click on the General > Tab, and uncheck the "automatic service discovery" checkbox. Oh, thanks for pointing out this option ! I had not noticed it, it's new isn't it ?! I unchecked it and hey presto, no network play lists show up anymore, yahoo ! :o) Thanks.... > oh, also if by chance you have wireless, you could be picking up people > on the same AP as you... Nope, no wireless anything here... just good ol' cables ;-) -- Vince From michael at weblore.com Wed Dec 20 22:56:17 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:56:17 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> Message-ID: <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > This is getting *VERY* weird. > > Yesterday / today, I had a configuration error that prevented me from > opening php files ... apache didn't know what to do with them. After > some memory prodding and help, I got the first site to open. > > Problem: I have another site ON THE SAME SERVER. Both sites are defined > in /var/www the same way, by a symlink to the directories containing the > ssites. Permissions are identical, both sites have a start page of > index.php. > > The first page opens fine - hence my assumption that the problem was fixed. > The second site gives the error > You have chosen to open > > which is a PHTML file > > Note that no page is named in the message. There is no file with a phtml > extension. > > On the other error, I had seen things like that before, I just had an > admitted case of brain freeze. With a little memory jogging from the > experts here, I knew where I was going. I've *NEVER* seen anything like > this one before. I've been googling for an answer, but so far haven't > found anything. > > The amount of knowledge here is incredible; I'm sure someone has seen > this. Any help from anywhere? Brian's idea sounded good, so I replaced the occurrences of SymlinkIfOwnerMatch with FollowSymlink. I still have the same result. One site works, the other doesn't. Any other ideas? ---Michael From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Wed Dec 20 23:25:35 2006 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:25:35 -0200 Subject: removing Ubuntu from laptop Message-ID: <200612202125.35778.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> Hi! I know how to remove any Linux from a desktop but, I need to remove Ubuntu from a laptop without floppy! "fdisk /mbr" is ok when I have a floppy! Is there any other way to remove any linux installation totally without this command? On this particular laptop I have winXP. TIA Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From jdangler at atlantic.net Wed Dec 20 23:44:13 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:44:13 -0500 Subject: airsnort config/run prob? Message-ID: <1166658253.5119.0.camel@localhost> gymsmoke at Nebo:~$ sudo airsnort /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=3 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=4 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=5 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported Does anyone have some input as to why I'm getting these messages ? (are they normal?) From ubuntunews at yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 23:58:54 2006 From: ubuntunews at yahoo.com (Brandon Blackwell) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:58:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: laptop battery Message-ID: <47837.74526.qm@web58908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I have a Compaq Presario laptop I think the number is either a 140 or > 240, possibly a 140 from what I can recall my sister telling me although > it was a while ago when she might have told me. > For some reason the battery doesn't last that long even when I have it > on charge for hours. > Is it me running Orca with Festival or the fact I keep my wireless > network enabled which is making the battery last so little time or is it > something else? > > I have a Compaq presario. Not the same number but the battery only last about 2 hours for me in Ubuntu. I have it dual booted and it only last 30 minutes in windows. Its about a year old also. If you can scaling your processor down does save on the battery life. Dim the screen as much as you can stand. I run wireless all the time when I'm running on battery but I'm sure turning that off will help.I never use orca but I almost always run open office, thunderbird, and gaim while I'm wireless. Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 21 00:25:54 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:25:54 +0000 Subject: configuring eclipse-pydev Message-ID: <1166660754.28365.2.camel@worldventures> I'd like some help on configuring the pydev plugin for eclipse. For example it is saying that I must give it a Python interpreter and a Jython (never heard of that!) interpreter before I can even begin a new project using it. What things do I have to do to begin development in Eclipse? Best regards, Gabe From anthony75a at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 01:17:47 2006 From: anthony75a at gmail.com (Anthony D.) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:17:47 -0600 Subject: GUI program for converting sound files? Message-ID: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Not sure if my previous message got through (or just no response), but was wondering what programs (preferably GUI-based) others here use for converting sound files to different formats? I'm interested in translating FLAC files into mp3 format, and had been using SoundConverter, but was wondering what other programs might be available... Anthonh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFieC4zwIa79lKFVURArlkAJ9kdoTkYanheNlUf587eY53WborfgCeLOms V/nEbMT23mVEvDfWrO8j4kc= =3tq0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From veritastic at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 01:25:10 2006 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:25:10 -0500 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20061220104957.GA5578@vaio.cvrse.com> References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <20061220104957.GA5578@vaio.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <1166664310.11553.1.camel@chris> So, I Followed the instructions on the wiki there, and it still doesn't work... any other suggestions? ;) On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 21:49 +1100, ben darby wrote: > * Chris wrote: > > Can I update to that somehow? I am terribly new to linux, so command line > > still scares me and I generally need a walk through. lol. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Then you can boot in to windows and remove the Linux partition using the windows disk tools. Hope that helps. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Dec 21 01:52:49 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:52:49 -0500 Subject: Looking Glass Message-ID: <200612202052.50115.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I saw that Project Looking Glass hit v1.0 this week. Has anyone used it? Comments? Paul From ljpino at grm.net Thu Dec 21 02:20:55 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:20:55 -0600 Subject: Video Playback in Firefox In-Reply-To: <1166664310.11553.1.camel@chris> References: <1166320535.23683.0.camel@chris> <200612191040.19527.zeller@ibh-wor.de> <20061220104957.GA5578@vaio.cvrse.com> <1166664310.11553.1.camel@chris> Message-ID: <4589EF87.5040103@grm.net> Chris Rohde wrote: > So, I Followed the instructions on the wiki there, and it still > doesn't work... any other suggestions? ;) > > > On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 21:49 +1100, ben darby wrote: >> * Chris wrote: >> > Can I update to that somehow? I am terribly new to linux, so command line >> > still scares me and I generally need a walk through. lol. >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9 >> >> Just to make sure, did you do the last command on the instructions? Open a file browser, and make sure the libflashplayer.so did actually get copied to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/. I just followed those instructions this evening with good results. ~Lorin From freepalestin at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 21 02:26:54 2006 From: freepalestin at dslextreme.com (Darlene Wallach) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:26:54 -0800 Subject: Making a CD recorder work In-Reply-To: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <4589F0EE.5080203@dslextreme.com> stan wrote: > I've used cdrecord and cdrdao in the past on Debian machnes with success. I > just installed a HP CD Writer in my Ubuntu machine, and when I run cdrecord > -scanbus I get only the following: > > root at ubuntu:~# cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg > Schilling > NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of > cdrecord > and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. > Please send bug reports and support requests to > . > The original author should not be bothered with problems > of this version. > > cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic > cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. > cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. > cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open > '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord > dev=help'. > /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . > > I have developed some autmated scripts for buring ISO's. and audio CD's > using cdrecord, and cdrdao. I'd like to be able to make these work on > Ubuntu. > > What do I need to do to convert these? > > Stan, Am I correct in assuming the HP CD Writer is not SCSI, rather it is IDE? Does /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup help with setting up your system? Darlene From ljpino at grm.net Thu Dec 21 02:38:42 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:38:42 -0600 Subject: GUI program for converting sound files? In-Reply-To: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> References: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4589F3B2.8090605@grm.net> Anthony D. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Not sure if my previous message got through (or just no response), but > was wondering what programs (preferably GUI-based) others here use for > converting sound files to different formats? I'm interested in > translating FLAC files into mp3 format, and had been using > SoundConverter, but was wondering what other programs might be > available... > > Anthonh > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFieC4zwIa79lKFVURArlkAJ9kdoTkYanheNlUf587eY53WborfgCeLOms > V/nEbMT23mVEvDfWrO8j4kc= > =3tq0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > http://freshmeat.net/redir/nautilus-audio-convert/62903/url_homepage/nautilus-audio-convert http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/08/042226 http://freshmeat.net/projects/audiokonverter/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnormalize/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/pacpl/ That is a mixture of KDE and Gnome. Do you have http://www.google.com/linux marked as a favorite in your browser? ~Lorin From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Thu Dec 21 03:27:09 2006 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:27:09 -0200 Subject: It worked! Re: removing Ubuntu from laptop In-Reply-To: <1509.210.55.22.193.1166664447.squirrel@drgnfire.is-a-geek.com> References: <200612202125.35778.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> <1509.210.55.22.193.1166664447.squirrel@drgnfire.is-a-geek.com> Message-ID: <200612210127.09408.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> On Wednesday 20 December 2006 23:27, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > > Hi! > > I know how to remove any Linux from a desktop but, I need to > > remove Ubuntu from a laptop without floppy! > > "fdisk /mbr" is ok when I have a floppy! > > Is there any other way to remove any linux installation totally without > > this > > command? > Insert Windows XP CD, boot from it, go in to the recovery console when > prompted. Choose windows installation, eneter administrator password. Then > type the command fixmbr which will remove the grub loader. > Then you can boot in to windows and remove the Linux partition using the > windows disk tools. > Hope that helps. Thanks a lot! It worked! Ricardo -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From haniganwork at earthlik.net Thu Dec 21 04:35:54 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:35:54 -0600 Subject: Mobipocket PDA and ubuntu Message-ID: <1166675755.31437.10.camel@star> I bought my husband a palm z22. I installed J-pilot and got it working with my husbands palm so it will synch. Now he still needs additional stuff to do paperless geocaching. Maybe someone here can help me figure it out. Option one is to download a mobipocket ebook format file. My understanding is that I have to somehow get a mobipocket reader installed on the PDA and then you just synch the files to the pda that you want to read. I think I know how to do the file part, but how would I get the mobipocket reader installed on the palm? Has anyone done this? Am I right that if you have the reader on the PDA you just have to put the files on the PDA or do they have to be formated by the pc before transfer in some way? Thanks Linda From ynd at hzw.ltindia.com Thu Dec 21 04:24:02 2006 From: ynd at hzw.ltindia.com (YAGNESH N DESAI) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:54:02 +0530 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? Message-ID: This is reply to a old topic which I raised when I just started using LINUX. This is to put to the record that I am still using Linux (feels good to have survived) I have learnt a lot which I can use for rest of my life unlike what has happened to my learnings in M$ most of my applications on DOS 6.2 are not at all running well on XP and on Vista I will have to organize the funeral for those. Also I have to redo the coding of those in VB. (If Vb is not supported in 2009 then something new) Above is tip of iceberg which I have seen. I am learning more and finding that OpenSource is just how world should be. My PI M/c 133MHz is also working on Linux while it was anyway a junk in the M$ world since last 6yrs. > > > >> > > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:32:31 +0530 From: "YAGNESH N DESAI" Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Friends; I just shifted to Linux and have tried on laptop read a lot about the meaning of Free. But just was wondering is it really $-free . . . ? I have invested 40hrs and still counting on getting and installing Linux and trying to make it work. (Though it was fun but its not yet working to my full satisfaction and I am at it). While above time does not includes my time participating in such discussions and preparing pages on my experience. Also after all this efforts I am not able to compilemany of the softwares in ubuntu I tried to compile Mplayer from its official site. . . Many of the downloads compilations are in .rpm package which means do I need an RedHat based Linux too on my laptop? I know I am putting a cat among the pigeons. Replies awaited . . . Yagnesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Thu Dec 21 05:38:49 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:38:49 -0600 Subject: GUI program for converting sound files? In-Reply-To: <4589F3B2.8090605@grm.net> References: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> <4589F3B2.8090605@grm.net> Message-ID: <458A1DE9.9030506@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lorin Pino wrote: > Anthony D. wrote: > Not sure if my previous message got through (or just no response), but > was wondering what programs (preferably GUI-based) others here use for > converting sound files to different formats? I'm interested in > translating FLAC files into mp3 format, and had been using > SoundConverter, but was wondering what other programs might be > available... What'd you have to add, *after* the usual "Multimedia & Java" reccomendations, to make SoundConverter deal with MP3 files? I'm seeing all kinds of leads, all of those packages (and gstreamer profiles) in place- no luck! What a PITA this has become... - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFih3p6PLtRzZbdhYRAsIeAJ9NYttHK79xYJ510hOXQrkboWdjiACfSfKW 4cCVwx+n4U+6Utx9YOlkEmI= =qHSP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Thu Dec 21 05:46:29 2006 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:46:29 +1100 Subject: Xubuntu and WiFi Madness (version 6.10) Message-ID: <200612211646.29991.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Am running Xubuntu (version 6.10) on this old celeron laptop. Memory is only 96 Meg ... hence my choice of Xubuntu. I battled on past the 'anthy problem' ... and have installed Xubuntu. Whereas in the past I found WiFi to be breeze ... it's now come to a full-stop! The card is a DLink G630 ... which I know from past installs is powered by an Atheros chip. On Xubuntu 6.06 the WiFI setup was easy because the three network interfaces were identified under network manager. I just selected the one I wanted ... and brought it up. At times I have used the ethernet, the modem and the wifi card ... to connect to the internet at home and away. When I came to do the upgrade, my wifi card was recognised ... and I thought that this was going to be easy. Wrong!! My network manager stubbornly refuses to 'see' a wireless interface ... and so I cannot bring it up. Various attempts to bring up the ath0 interface have failed ... and I have come to a brick wall. Has anyone else got past this little problem?? Richard -- -- Irena and Richard Jenkins Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From sebastjan.penko at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 07:03:38 2006 From: sebastjan.penko at gmail.com (seba) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:03:38 +0100 Subject: CD printing & Canon Pixma IP 3000 drivers Message-ID: <9764ea50612202303l593266f4n5894a285e666a8db@mail.gmail.com> > > > > "Jamie Dobbs" wrote: > > > > > My Epson Stylus R210 came with a very nifty pirce if software for > > Windows > > > that allows me to print directly on to printable CDs/DVDs. > > > Is there such a program for Ubuntu? > > > My searching thus far has not shown up anything. > > > > cd-circleprint ? apt-cache show cd-circleprint says it has a GUI, but > > it's tk, so it might not be very pretty ;-) Apparently it uses perl, and > > outputs in postscript. It' s in the universe repository. > > > > I haven't tried it, but it is only a small download, so it might be > worth > > a look. > > > > Peter > > > I have a similar problem with my Canon pixma IP3000 which also support > printing onto printable cd-s and it works great on Windows but in linux > even > found a decent driver for this printer is a pain. I have even bought a > driver for it but the output is not what I wanted. So I print my docs and > cd > / DVD-s on windows. And that is the only thing that's keeping me from > total > switch to ubuntu. > So if someone knows where to get decent drivers for my Pixma and the > software for cd printing it would be great :) By the way in windows I use > openoffice writer template to print my cd-s but this template doesn't work > on linux, weird. Sorry for not changing the subject line. I have corrected it and resend the message to the list. Please help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexweili at yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 07:16:38 2006 From: alexweili at yahoo.com (wei li) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:16:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: install xemacs problems Message-ID: <496977.14298.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I tried to install xemacs on ubuntu 6.06, but the ./configure always has problems in recognizing the X system: What window system should XEmacs use? none How should I fix the problem? Thanks, Wei __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Dec 21 07:18:13 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:18:13 +0100 Subject: How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace In-Reply-To: <20061220214945.GA6884@rip.cvrse.com> References: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> <45896763.8030402@welcomes-you.com> <20061220214945.GA6884@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: <458A3535.9090803@welcomes-you.com> ben darby wrote: > that would be DontZap which is a boolean (man xorg.conf) > add this section to the bottom of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file providing > it doesnt already contain a serverflags section which it wont by default Ouch, thanks for helping me out, I should check again what I've written. Sorry to the OP. Carsten From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Dec 21 07:23:50 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:23:50 +0100 Subject: Xubuntu and WiFi Madness (version 6.10) In-Reply-To: <200612211646.29991.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> References: <200612211646.29991.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <458A3686.4030702@welcomes-you.com> Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > When I came to do the upgrade, my wifi card was recognised ... and I thought > that this was going to be easy. Wrong!! My network manager stubbornly > refuses to 'see' a wireless interface ... and so I cannot bring it up. > Various attempts to bring up the ath0 interface have failed ... and I have > come to a brick wall. > Has anyone else got past this little problem?? I had some issues with the madwifi driver for Atheros cards with edgy as well. For it helped to install the latest driver from madwifi.org. Maybe you want to give it a shot. Carsten PS: However, my problem was a little bit different. I was able to see a lot of networks, but association with the AP sometimes failed (probably due to a timing problem) From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Dec 21 07:32:17 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:32:17 +0100 Subject: install xemacs problems In-Reply-To: <496977.14298.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <496977.14298.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <458A3881.5040709@welcomes-you.com> wei li wrote: > I tried to install xemacs on ubuntu 6.06, but the ./configure always > has problems in recognizing the X system: > What window system should XEmacs use? none > How should I fix the problem? Maybe it's possible that you are missing the -dev packages for your window system, e.g. Gnome has a tool called gnome-config in libgnome-dev which might give the configure file a clue (however, I haven;t looked at the configure file). Another question: Why do you want to compile xemacs from scratch? I believe there is a package called xemacs21 in dapper/universe. Cheers Carsten From alexweili at yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 07:35:39 2006 From: alexweili at yahoo.com (wei li) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:35:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: install xemacs problems In-Reply-To: <458A3881.5040709@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <20061221073539.75086.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How can I install it? I am a beginner for ubuntu: apt-cache search xemacs did not give me anything for xemacs. Thanks, Wei --- Carsten Aulbert wrote: > wei li wrote: > > I tried to install xemacs on ubuntu 6.06, but the ./configure > always > > has problems in recognizing the X system: > > What window system should XEmacs use? none > > > How should I fix the problem? > > Maybe it's possible that you are missing the -dev packages for your > window system, e.g. Gnome has a tool called gnome-config in > libgnome-dev > which might give the configure file a clue (however, I haven;t > looked at > the configure file). > > Another question: Why do you want to compile xemacs from scratch? I > believe there is a package called xemacs21 in dapper/universe. > > Cheers > > Carsten > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From carsten at welcomes-you.com Thu Dec 21 07:43:36 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:43:36 +0100 Subject: install xemacs problems In-Reply-To: <20061221073539.75086.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061221073539.75086.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <458A3B28.1050401@welcomes-you.com> wei li wrote: > How can I install it? I am a beginner for ubuntu: > apt-cache search xemacs > did not give me anything for xemacs. If you use synaptic, open synaptic and choose Settings->Repositories enable the universe repository. After this you should be able to see xemacs21 (after doing an upgrade). >From the command line: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Enable the line with universe by deleting the comment marker '#' Save the file Run apt-get update then apt-cache show xemacs should give you xemacs21 and finally apt-get install xemacs21 should install xemacs for you. HTH Carsten From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Dec 21 07:50:00 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:00 -0500 Subject: Xubuntu and WiFi Madness (version 6.10) In-Reply-To: <458A3686.4030702@welcomes-you.com> References: <200612211646.29991.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <458A3686.4030702@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <1166687400.25697.19.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 08:23 +0100, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > > > When I came to do the upgrade, my wifi card was recognised ... and I thought > > that this was going to be easy. Wrong!! My network manager stubbornly > > refuses to 'see' a wireless interface ... and so I cannot bring it up. > > Various attempts to bring up the ath0 interface have failed ... and I have > > come to a brick wall. > > > Has anyone else got past this little problem?? > > I had some issues with the madwifi driver for Atheros cards with edgy as > well. For it helped to install the latest driver from madwifi.org. > > Maybe you want to give it a shot. > > Carsten > > PS: However, my problem was a little bit different. I was able to see a > lot of networks, but association with the AP sometimes failed (probably > due to a timing problem) > I'm running ipw2100 on Dapper 6.06 LTS. I can see my wireless network fine, but that's it. Whether in Static or DHCP mode, regardless of the gateway address... sees the ESSID, and nothing else. And yet, I've been on the road for 6 weeks in 5 different locations across the country, and it worked like a champ in all locations using DHCP except 1, where I basically 'borrowed' one of their IP addresses to get in... From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Dec 21 07:57:34 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:57:34 -0500 Subject: sent mail sync Message-ID: <1166687854.25697.22.camel@localhost> I've been out of town for the last few weeks, and have been using my Ubuntu laptop on the road(6.06 LTS). I sent replies to email messages that I would like to (if possible) transfer to my desktop system (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS) into the sent folder. Is there a way to do this? Both the laptop and desktop are running Evolution 2.6.1 tia John From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 21 07:59:53 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:59:53 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200612210800.kBL7xqO9029417@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Yagnesh, ~~~~ My PI M/c 133MHz is also working on Linux while it was anyway a junk in the M$ ~~~~ world since last 6yrs. And people said through that heap of rubbish away. I am glad I did not throw my old desktop away, it is sitting as a file & print server now. Happy Christmas to every one who believes in it. I still believe in Santa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexweili at yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 08:03:20 2006 From: alexweili at yahoo.com (wei li) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:03:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: install xemacs problems In-Reply-To: <458A3B28.1050401@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <20061221080320.25301.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, this is really cool! --- Carsten Aulbert wrote: > wei li wrote: > > How can I install it? I am a beginner for ubuntu: > > apt-cache search xemacs > > did not give me anything for xemacs. > > If you use synaptic, open synaptic and choose > Settings->Repositories > enable the universe repository. > > After this you should be able to see xemacs21 (after doing an > upgrade). > > From the command line: > > sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list > > Enable the line with universe by deleting the comment marker '#' > > Save the file > > Run > apt-get update > > then > apt-cache show xemacs should give you xemacs21 > > and finally > > apt-get install xemacs21 should install xemacs for you. > > HTH > > Carsten > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bob at bobsbits.net Wed Dec 20 04:53:15 2006 From: bob at bobsbits.net (bob davis) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:53:15 -0500 Subject: question about VI In-Reply-To: <4588181A.9050802@hampshire.edu> References: <4588181A.9050802@hampshire.edu> Message-ID: <4588C1BB.6080506@bobsbits.net> Jaime Davila wrote: > Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, but I've looked everywhere for an > answer, with no luck. > > I have set vi to auto indent. I'm having an issue with comments and > their indentation. Whenever vi sees that I type the # character, it > moves it to the leftmost column. I would like the comment to stay at > whatever level of indentation my code is at the time. > > Does anyone have a solution? > I have seen this before when writing perl scripts. But I cant seem to get the version I am using right now to do it. Try: :help comments and possibly :set comments= should turn off this automatic behavior. From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 21 08:26:25 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:26:25 +0100 Subject: Xubuntu and WiFi Madness (version 6.10) In-Reply-To: <1166687400.25697.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200612210826.kBL8QZ10011597@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> I had a problem with my Toshiba. The answer in my case was two connections. 1. eth0 cable, had a static ip 2. eth1 wifi DHCP My router/wifi box did not like the static ip address, I set the cable to DHCP and wizzo they both worked. HTH From warlock at eskimo.com Thu Dec 21 08:38:23 2006 From: warlock at eskimo.com (Jim Richardson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:38:23 -0800 Subject: Giving up on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1163928802.30211.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <455F2BA5.2060000@weblore.com> <1163925730.30211.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1163928802.30211.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1166690303.23449.7.camel@dragon> On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 10:33 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 01:04 -0800, NoOp wrote: > > > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > JUST ANNOUNCED: Ubuntu 6.10, code named Edgy Eft, has been released with > > many exciting new features. Visit the download page for CD images. > > http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released > > gives the impression that Edgy is a fully released and stable Ubuntu > > version. It is not - or if it is, it should not be. > > I agree. As I said, the webpage should be clearer. Somewhere it says > that "if you are interested in stability, use 6.06" but it is far too > less prominent. > > > Edgy, for many, is an AOL coaster CD/download that can and *will* > > destroy a perfectly good Dapper system and/or virgin system. > > I haven't seen any real evidence for this. Yes, there were some postings > on the list, but without knowing how many upgrades worked fine, it is > hard to say. I suspect many upgrades are also hosed because of Automatix > and similar unoffical stuff, or people ignoring the instructions. I just > can say that I upgraded one system and installed another and both went > perfectly. > Same here, upgraded a Dapper workstation, minimal problems. (can't recall any off hand, but there must have been something...) installed a fresh Edgy CD to a Dell inspiron 8100, with *zero* problems. Including suspend and hibernate working as they should. I have since replaced a 1024x768 monitor (LCD) with a 1280x1024 one, and that has brought a "Out of range" error for some games, which is annoying, but workable. > > Had my test > > system not been fully backed up when I attempted my Dapper to Edgy > > upgrade (and later full install) my system data would have been hosed. > > Well ... upgrading without a full backup is foolhardy and everyone will > tell you so. Out of interest, what was the problem? > > > Bottom line is that Edgy is buggy and IMHO should have never been > > released, nor should it be promoted as the primary Ubuntu distro. > > "Not released" I don't think so, "promoted differently" I agree > > > > === Ubuntu 6.10 reviews from around the web === > > > (...) I am sure that there are folks experiencing problems with 6.10, but it works well for me. So did Dapper for the most part, but Edgy is better. -- Jim Richardson Erisian Claw From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 21 08:52:16 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:52:16 +0100 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> Message-ID: <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> Am 20.12.2006 um 23:56 schrieb Michael Satterwhite: > Any other ideas? what does the error log say about that? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A hostname may include shell-style wildcards (see the Wildcards section below), but unless the hostname command on your machine returns the fully qualified hostname, you'll need to use the fqdn option for wildcards to be useful. " Thats all nice and fine but how would I make a generally available (single) sudoers file that is asked what commands a user can run? I know how to define the syntax for it (examples in the manpage are quite detailed) but: If i have 2 machines both standard install how would i configure them to use the same sudoers file? thanks martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Richard -- -- Irena and Richard Jenkins Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 21 09:53:25 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:53:25 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 21.12.2006 um 05:24 schrieb YAGNESH N DESAI: > This is reply to a old topic which I raised when I just started > using LINUX. > This is to put to the record that I am still using Linux (feels > good to have survived) > Congratulations :) > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:32:31 +0530 > From: "YAGNESH N DESAI" > Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Friends; > > I just shifted to Linux and have tried on laptop read a lot about the > meaning of Free. But just was wondering is it really $-free . . . ? No it isn't and hopefully never will (imho as that won't survive). Just to make sure you got it. Free Software isn't free as in beer, free as in freedom (often heard that never thought about it until well, let me tell you....) Once upon a time.... I was searching for an accounting software that was "free" (at that time I thought free as in nothing to pay for it) I found several that wouldn't charge a cent for it but were quite... useless. Now after a lot of research I also found several non-free (again just thinking in terms of money here). The best I could find to use was I think it was called qtudo which was GPLd at that time and free of charge. The downside was the author tried to make money with support (imho in the wrong way because he did provide the sources and all of the stuff but didn't give any documentation - nada, nothing) - last thing I saw from qtudo was that the version wasn't available free anymmore (don't know about GPL but I think he also dropped GPL for the new versions). Now what I found was a nice GPL piece of software that one could download install had documentation used an sql backend, customizeable, all the nifty stuff that you could think of. Ok so I started setting it up playing around, doing some stuff just to find: Oh my god, someone actually charges for GPLd software. And not too little if you used they wanted about 2000 € for the basic module (which was just a part of the source you could download and of course lacked a lot of features I wanted). Ok so I started asking around and found: That is just normal, good behaviour even and absolutely correct to do so. Imagine what would happen if Oracle GPLd their database server. I guess they wouldn't drop charging for it but support would simply say: Is this a support version? and if it is not you are screwed (Not that I'm an oracle expert or a anything I just didn't want to use the MS example) Well I ended up sticking with the old accounting software for Windows with windows but switched to openoffice and all the other apps that are useable (note that I am using free (as in both, beer and freedom) software, even thou I just said it is good to charge for software). I do support some of the projects by buying the distro. But still what would you live from if you were coding all day and give it away for free? Martin. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rutger On 12/21/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > > Am 21.12.2006 um 05:24 schrieb YAGNESH N DESAI: > > > This is reply to a old topic which I raised when I just started > > using LINUX. > > This is to put to the record that I am still using Linux (feels > > good to have survived) > > > > Congratulations :) > > > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:32:31 +0530 > > From: "YAGNESH N DESAI" > > Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? > > To: > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Friends; > > > > I just shifted to Linux and have tried on laptop read a lot about the > > meaning of Free. But just was wondering is it really $-free . . . ? > > No it isn't and hopefully never will (imho as that won't survive). > Just to make sure you got it. Free Software isn't free as in beer, > free as in freedom (often heard that never thought about it until > well, let me tell you....) > > Once upon a time.... > > > I was searching for an accounting software that was "free" (at that > time I thought free as in nothing to pay for it) I found several that > wouldn't charge a cent for it but were quite... useless. Now after a > lot of research I also found several non-free (again just thinking in > terms of money here). The best I could find to use was I think it was > called qtudo which was GPLd at that time and free of charge. The > downside was the author tried to make money with support (imho in the > wrong way because he did provide the sources and all of the stuff but > didn't give any documentation - nada, nothing) - last thing I saw > from qtudo was that the version wasn't available free anymmore (don't > know about GPL but I think he also dropped GPL for the new versions). > > Now what I found was a nice GPL piece of software that one could > download install had documentation used an sql backend, > customizeable, all the nifty stuff that you could think of. Ok so I > started setting it up playing around, doing some stuff just to find: > Oh my god, someone actually charges for GPLd software. And not too > little if you used they wanted about 2000 € for the basic module > (which was just a part of the source you could download and of course > lacked a lot of features I wanted). Ok so I started asking around and > found: > > That is just normal, good behaviour even and absolutely correct to do > so. > > Imagine what would happen if Oracle GPLd their database server. I > guess they wouldn't drop charging for it but support would simply > say: Is this a support version? and if it is not you are screwed (Not > that I'm an oracle expert or a anything I just didn't want to use the > MS example) > > Well I ended up sticking with the old accounting software for Windows > with windows but switched to openoffice and all the other apps that > are useable (note that I am using free (as in both, beer and freedom) > software, even thou I just said it is good to charge for software). I > do support some of the projects by buying the distro. But still what > would you live from if you were coding all day and give it away for > free? > > Martin. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 21 10:25:52 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:25:52 +0100 Subject: GMAIL In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612211026.kBLAPtAO028796@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> I realise I will be in someone's bad books. But I would like to sign-up for GMAIL. However as I am in France I cannot do so by my mobile. Would someone be kind enough to sponsor me. Replies to me only please. TIA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 21 10:54:11 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:54:11 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> Hello, Am 21.12.2006 um 11:16 schrieb Rutger van Haasteren: > Well, that's the idea of GPLd software. People have been coding all > day (for > many days). And they are giving it away for free. The reason this > works so > well is that there are many people doing this and they like it. > Some do make > money through donations, but mainly the community does this for > free. Many > developers understand this and therefore give back to the community by > providing patches when they find bugs. I think this is a great > system, and > it does work. Just go to www.gnu.org and read about it. It is a great > phylosophy... well disagree on that. I think that the free isn't about giving it away for free but rather to give your user/costumers/whatever the freedom to modify the software you provide. == quote == The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. == /quote == Could you tell me where there is the freedom to get software without money? Note that freedom 2 doesn't say it just says _iff_ you already have a copy you can redistribute it, which implies that you have paid (if the author wishes) for the software. \martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2474 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 11:09:43 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:09:43 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612210309h4147ac87wc987307f2217193@mail.gmail.com> It is about free as in liberty. So even if you have paid money for software that is GPLd, then you have the right to redistribute it. Even for free. So it is ok to charge money, but don't count on becoming rich. == quote == A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus, you should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without modifications, either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to anyone anywhere. Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do not have to ask or pay for permission. == /quote == Rutger On 12/21/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Hello, > > Am 21.12.2006 um 11:16 schrieb Rutger van Haasteren: > > > Well, that's the idea of GPLd software. People have been coding all > > day (for > > many days). And they are giving it away for free. The reason this > > works so > > well is that there are many people doing this and they like it. > > Some do make > > money through donations, but mainly the community does this for > > free. Many > > developers understand this and therefore give back to the community by > > providing patches when they find bugs. I think this is a great > > system, and > > it does work. Just go to www.gnu.org and read about it. It is a great > > phylosophy... > > well disagree on that. I think that the free isn't about giving it > away for free but rather to give your user/costumers/whatever the > freedom to modify the software you provide. > > == quote == > The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). > The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. > The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor > (freedom 2). > The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to > the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access > to the source code is a precondition for this. > == /quote == > > Could you tell me where there is the freedom to get software without > money? Note that freedom 2 doesn't say it just says _iff_ you already > have a copy you can redistribute it, which implies that you have paid > (if the author wishes) for the software. > > \martin > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 11:24:43 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:24:43 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612210309h4147ac87wc987307f2217193@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> <78d24f7a0612210309h4147ac87wc987307f2217193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612210324s57afc968vdc669dddf1777562@mail.gmail.com> by the way, I have used 'for free' perhaps in the wrong context, but I was just trying to make a point here about the community. The GPL doesn't say that GPLd software must be free of charge, but for any usefull piece of GPLd software this will usually be the case. Rutger On 12/21/06, Rutger van Haasteren wrote: > > It is about free as in liberty. So even if you have paid money for > software that is GPLd, then you have the right to redistribute it. Even for > free. So it is ok to charge money, but don't count on becoming rich. > > == quote == > > A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus, you > should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without modifications, > either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to anyone anywhere. > Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do not > have to ask or pay for permission. > == /quote == > > Rutger > > > On 12/21/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Am 21.12.2006 um 11:16 schrieb Rutger van Haasteren: > > > > > Well, that's the idea of GPLd software. People have been coding all > > > day (for > > > many days). And they are giving it away for free. The reason this > > > works so > > > well is that there are many people doing this and they like it. > > > Some do make > > > money through donations, but mainly the community does this for > > > free. Many > > > developers understand this and therefore give back to the community by > > > providing patches when they find bugs. I think this is a great > > > system, and > > > it does work. Just go to www.gnu.org and read about it. It is a great > > > phylosophy... > > > > well disagree on that. I think that the free isn't about giving it > > away for free but rather to give your user/costumers/whatever the > > freedom to modify the software you provide. > > > > == quote == > > The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). > > The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your > > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. > > > > The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor > > (freedom 2). > > The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to > > the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access > > to the source code is a precondition for this. > > == /quote == > > > > Could you tell me where there is the freedom to get software without > > money? Note that freedom 2 doesn't say it just says _iff_ you already > > have a copy you can redistribute it, which implies that you have paid > > (if the author wishes) for the software. > > > > \martin > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 11:25:12 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:25:12 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu, fetting windows to raise on click within window. Message-ID: <20061221112512.GB2040@teddy.fas.com> I'm trying to get the following scenario in in Kubuntu 1. Focus follows mouse (working) 2. click to raise window (anywhere in the window, not just on the borders. I have this working on a KDE based FreeBSD machine at work, but i can't seem to get it to work unde Kubuntu. Can anyone provide some guidance, as to how to achieve this behavior? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Thu Dec 21 11:52:59 2006 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:52:59 +0100 Subject: Xen 3 On Ubuntu Edgy or Feisty Message-ID: <1166701979.4784.8.camel@r4000> Hi all, Would you know any other Ubuntu-way to install Xen 3 than this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuEdgy I really want to use only apt? I want to para-virtualize too (I have VT CPU). Thank you. From sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com Thu Dec 21 14:07:11 2006 From: sjoeboo at sjoeboo.com (Matthew Nicholson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:07:11 -0500 Subject: Rhythmbox : need help with music sharing... In-Reply-To: <20061220233141.6d7752a6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <1166651523.27948.25.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> <20061220233141.6d7752a6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <1166710031.5356.1.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:31 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Matthew Nicholson wrote: > > Well, avahi/zeroconf, as i understand it, will only broadcast to/look > > for services on, you "local" subnet. So, in my home network, my ip > > scheme is 192.168.15.*, so, even if I have a system right next to my > > desktop, if it doesn't have a 192.168.15.* ip (let say i gave it a > > 192.168.240.* address), they "shouldn't" be able to see each other with > > avahi/zerconf. > > Since most users are set up this way, instead of being directly > > connected, people only see things "around" or "near" , at least in terms > > of the network layout. > > I would guess , since you are "directly" connected, you are picking up > > people running iTunes/rhythmbox etc else where on the network (your > > ISP's most likley) that are within the same subnet as you... > > Ahhhh, interesting ! So that means that at any given time, I am > potentially connected to up to 255 strangers then, which are never the > same as my ISP changes the IP every 24 hours or so I think. > So that means that there is no way to share services with friends > securely/privately via internet then, as you are never alone on a > subnet, obviously... :-/ > So Avahi really is purely designed for local networks only then, and > should be disabled otherwise. Well, in theory, if you set up some sort of vpn, or tunnel to your friend(s), it might work then.... > > I would go to System->ADministration->Networking, click on the General > > Tab, and uncheck the "automatic service discovery" checkbox. > > Oh, thanks for pointing out this option ! I had not noticed it, it's > new isn't it ?! I unchecked it and hey presto, no network > play lists show up anymore, yahoo ! :o) > Thanks.... > Yeah, i think it showed up in edgy. Not a problem, glad I could help. Matt > > oh, also if by chance you have wireless, you could be picking up people > > on the same AP as you... > > Nope, no wireless anything here... just good ol' cables ;-) > > > -- > Vince > From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Thu Dec 21 14:35:34 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:35:34 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox : need help with music sharing... In-Reply-To: <1166710031.5356.1.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> References: <20061220224001.22f4a912.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <1166651523.27948.25.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> <20061220233141.6d7752a6.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <1166710031.5356.1.camel@nichols2-desktop.fas.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <20061221153534.f9fbb7a3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Matthew Nicholson wrote: > Well, in theory, if you set up some sort of vpn, or tunnel to your > friend(s), it might work then.... Hmmm, sounds interesting ! Might read a bit about these two things, looks very useful.... -- Vince From michael at weblore.com Thu Dec 21 14:36:20 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:36:20 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> Message-ID: <458A9BE4.2010908@weblore.com> Martin Marcher wrote: > > Am 20.12.2006 um 23:56 schrieb Michael Satterwhite: > >> Any other ideas? > > what does the error log say about that? > It doesn't. While I *AM* ashamed to admit that I hadn't looked at the error log - when that should have been done right at the beginning, I just did. To check things out, I tried to access the page several times. Each time, I got the error message from apache. When I checked, there were no entries in either of the files in /var/log/apache. Proper notations were made when I accessed the web page that is working. Bottom line. No entries are logged when I get the "This is a phtml" message. From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 21 14:39:19 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:39:19 +0100 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612210324s57afc968vdc669dddf1777562@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> <78d24f7a0612210309h4147ac87wc987307f2217193@mail.gmail.com> <78d24f7a0612210324s57afc968vdc669dddf1777562@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Am 21.12.2006 um 12:24 schrieb Rutger van Haasteren: > by the way, I have used 'for free' perhaps in the wrong context, > but I was > just trying to make a point here about the community. The GPL > doesn't say > that GPLd software must be free of charge, but for any usefull > piece of GPLd > software this will usually be the case exactly my point. I guess due to the lack of the correct words for "free of charge" and "free as in freedom" we were arguing about the same opinion (A few friends of mine earn some extra money with exactly that business modell - software itself is free but not the work not the patches etc.) \martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But I cant seem to > get the version I am using right now to do it. > Try: > :help comments > > and possibly > :set comments= > should turn off this automatic behavior. > > Hi. Thanks for the reply. :set comments= did not change this behavior. Strange thing is, it does it fine with the // comments in C++, but treats # differently. -- ****************************************************** Jaime J. Davila Associate Professor of Computer Science Hampshire College School of Cognitive Science jdavila at hampshire dot edu http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila ******************************************************* From michael at weblore.com Thu Dec 21 15:14:16 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:14:16 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <2E5CAC50-0593-428E-8AF8-7009CA58BEF7@openforce.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> <458A9BE4.2010908@weblore.com> <2E5CAC50-0593-428E-8AF8-7009CA58BEF7@openforce.com> Message-ID: <458AA4C8.6020109@weblore.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Marcher wrote: > Hi, > > Am 21.12.2006 um 15:36 schrieb Michael Satterwhite: > >> Bottom line. No entries are logged when I get the "This is a phtml" >> message. > > If you don't mind could you post > > a) the config of the vhost not working > b)/etc/apache2/apache2.conf (at least relevant parts) I'll be glad to, but I'm running apache - not apache2. It's not divided into vhosts. What part of the config do you want to see. > > as you say the other site works I assume php is already loaded and for > itself works properly? PHP seems to be working fine. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFiqTHjeziQOokQnARAo3bAJ9sfrHi3U62oOfRidXv/Cr7xDgySQCeMcGt P/EGdLFTz0LBrBIL3CbRKDQ= =p0pv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martin.marcher at openforce.com Thu Dec 21 15:19:11 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:19:11 +0100 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <458AA4C8.6020109@weblore.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> <458A9BE4.2010908@weblore.com> <2E5CAC50-0593-428E-8AF8-7009CA58BEF7@openforce.com> <458AA4C8.6020109@weblore.com> Message-ID: <9CF9D455-BDDA-4B50-8E2C-F3D680730194@openforce.com> Hello, Am 21.12.2006 um 16:14 schrieb Michael Satterwhite: > I'll be glad to, but I'm running apache - not apache2. It's not > divided > into vhosts. What part of the config do you want to see. my bad. Just give me the VHost part, and the parts where you load php and assign .php to be parsed by the php module. martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2474 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jordi.listas at multivia.com Thu Dec 21 15:23:06 2006 From: jordi.listas at multivia.com (Jordi Espasa Clofent) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:23:06 +0100 Subject: question about VI In-Reply-To: <458AA161.9030203@hampshire.edu> References: <4588181A.9050802@hampshire.edu> <4588C1BB.6080506@bobsbits.net> <458AA161.9030203@hampshire.edu> Message-ID: <458AA6DA.8030704@multivia.com> > Hi. Thanks for the reply. :set comments= did not change this behavior. > Strange thing is, it does it fine with the // comments in C++, but > treats # differently. > Jaime, I've not the solution but I've and obvious idea: ¿Have you searched for that in vi/vim users mail list? 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I think that this is related with deep cultural differences between your culture and mine. In my understanding is totally contradictory to try to educate our children on freedom values and at the same time try to control/censor the info they get from the outside world. I am not trying to start a thread about this, only this conversations it's very strange for me. :-) -- Jorge Tomé Hernando http://www.jorgetome.info Linux Registered User #362778 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 15:27:42 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:27:42 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu, random background image at startup Message-ID: <20061221152742.GA12117@teddy.fas.com> I'm building a machine that I plan on transitioning my wife to as a workstation. She is curently using an older Debian machine, running an old version of Gnome (1.4 if I recall corectly). I have a small perl script that selects a random image from a given directory, and makes this her background when she logs in. How can I acomplish this same goal in the KDE version shiped with Kubuntu 6.10? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From squareyes at internode.on.net Thu Dec 21 15:51:10 2006 From: squareyes at internode.on.net (squareyes) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:21:10 +1030 Subject: GUI program for converting sound files? In-Reply-To: <458A1DE9.9030506@fahrlander.net> References: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> <4589F3B2.8090605@grm.net> <458A1DE9.9030506@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458AAD6E.2000204@internode.on.net> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lorin Pino wrote: > >> Anthony D. wrote: >> Not sure if my previous message got through (or just no response), but >> was wondering what programs (preferably GUI-based) others here use for >> converting sound files to different formats? I'm interested in >> translating FLAC files into mp3 format, and had been using >> SoundConverter, but was wondering what other programs might be >> available... >> > > What'd you have to add, *after* the usual "Multimedia & Java" > reccomendations, to make SoundConverter deal with MP3 files? I'm seeing > all kinds of leads, all of those packages (and gstreamer profiles) in > place- no luck! > Hi all, am also trying SoundConverter, can convert flac to ogg-vorbis, but not to mp3. Option is there in preferences, but is "greyed out" Have I missed something? Many thanks in advance, Take Care, and have a safe and peaceful season everyone. Winton From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Thu Dec 21 15:51:34 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:51:34 +0100 Subject: How to disable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace In-Reply-To: <458A3535.9090803@welcomes-you.com> References: <87irg67d1v.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com> <45896763.8030402@welcomes-you.com> <20061220214945.GA6884@rip.cvrse.com> <458A3535.9090803@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <1166716294.6047.10.camel@localhost> It's in the documentation you'll find on your system. Sadly you won't find it easily by searching (so I just filed a bug) but it's in section 12. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just give me the VHost part, and the parts where you load php > and assign .php to be parsed by the php module. There is no Host part. If there needs to be, I can change that - but I haven't in the past. >From mime.types application/x-httpd-php php phtml pht application/x-httpd-php-source phps application/x-httpd-php3 php3 application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3p application/x-httpd-php4 php4 >From modules.conf LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so Anything else? ---Michael From jcarlos10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 16:02:06 2006 From: jcarlos10 at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Becerra Irene) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:02:06 -0600 Subject: Weird GNOME behaviour (in Dapper and Edgy) In-Reply-To: <45606429.40803@gmail.com> References: <45606429.40803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49f8dc360612210802w6b2ddb0ib67d6a299ed307d1@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm also having the same problem that you report. Actually I'd already reported the same to this list, some time ago, when using Draper on a Virtual Machine running on windows, now I'm using Edgy on my physical box (Dell Dimension 9200) and the problem ocurrs from time to time. Do you have any idea of what is going wrong? Is a DHCP misconfiguration the cause of the problem? In the meantime I'll try to run the experiment you suggest. Regards, Juan Carlos On 11/19/06, Severin Schoepke wrote: > > Hi list! > > I decided to switch from Windows with the Dapper release. I installed it > and all went well. But because it was my first Linux installation that I > used for daily work, I messed around and tried lots of stuff, which > maybe introduced damage... When Edgy was released, I reformatted the HD > and did a clean install of Edgy. I tried to keep this installation clean > (only using official repos, no EasyUbuntu, no Automatix and so on). > > But I have a weird problem with both installations: Sometimes Gnome > doesn't allow the creation of new windows: When I'm working and want to > start a new app or open a folder, it happens from time to time that the > app/folder is not started/opened. There's a new entry in the task bar in > the likes of 'Mozilla Firefox wird gestartet...' (FF is being started in > english) that just disappears after a few seconds. I then can't start > applications, be it via the start menu, a panel launcher, a starter on > the desktop or from a terminal that is already open... Then suddenly, > after 10 minutes or so, the apps finally start/the windows get opened... > > This is really annoying, and a fix for it is to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and > restart X... And I find it strange that noone else reported this > problem, I can't believe I'm the only one suffering from this... > > As I said it happenend on both installations (the probably messed up > Dapper and the clean Edgy)... I use a Dell Inspirion laptop with 512 > megs RAM and with a GeForce FX5200. The binary drivers (nvidia-glx) from > the official repo are installed. Most of the time I have quite a few > apps running (Thunderbird, Gaim, Rythmbox, Tomboy and a Terminal). And I > usually don't shut down the computer but use hibernation instead... > > I have no idea where the problem lies: I suspect it could be a X > problem, or a window manager problem or maybe a memory problem. But > normally everything is working (X and the window manager make no > problems other than that) and 512 megs of RAM is not much, but it should > be enough and the RAM is fine (I memtested it)... > > Does anyone have an idea where the problem lies or how to fix it? > > TIA! > > cheers, Severin > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Thu Dec 21 16:02:13 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:02:13 +0100 Subject: Xserver Broke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166716933.6047.18.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 13:48 +0000, Osiozekhai Aliu wrote: > Hallo Everybody, > > Need help with xserver. > My Xserver broke after Update of Linux Headers. What about uninstalling linux-headers, checking you only have good repositories, and then reinstalling linux-headers. If you have a conflict between packages because of a non-ubuntu package update then this might help. Grüsse, Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Actually I'd already > reported the same to this list, some time ago, when using Draper on a > Virtual Machine running on windows, now I'm using Edgy on my physical box > (Dell Dimension 9200) and the problem ocurrs from time to time. > > Do you have any idea of what is going wrong? > > Is a DHCP misconfiguration the cause of the problem? In the meantime I'll > try to run the experiment you suggest. > > Regards, > Juan Carlos > > On 11/19/06, Severin Schoepke wrote: > > > > Hi list! > > > > I decided to switch from Windows with the Dapper release. I installed it > > and all went well. But because it was my first Linux installation that I > > used for daily work, I messed around and tried lots of stuff, which > > maybe introduced damage... When Edgy was released, I reformatted the HD > > and did a clean install of Edgy. I tried to keep this installation clean > > (only using official repos, no EasyUbuntu, no Automatix and so on). > > > > But I have a weird problem with both installations: Sometimes Gnome > > doesn't allow the creation of new windows: When I'm working and want to > > start a new app or open a folder, it happens from time to time that the > > app/folder is not started/opened. There's a new entry in the task bar in > > the likes of 'Mozilla Firefox wird gestartet...' (FF is being started in > > english) that just disappears after a few seconds. I then can't start > > applications, be it via the start menu, a panel launcher, a starter on > > the desktop or from a terminal that is already open... Then suddenly, > > after 10 minutes or so, the apps finally start/the windows get opened... > > > > > > This is really annoying, and a fix for it is to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and > > restart X... And I find it strange that noone else reported this > > problem, I can't believe I'm the only one suffering from this... > > > > As I said it happenend on both installations (the probably messed up > > Dapper and the clean Edgy)... I use a Dell Inspirion laptop with 512 > > megs RAM and with a GeForce FX5200. The binary drivers (nvidia-glx) from > > > > the official repo are installed. Most of the time I have quite a few > > apps running (Thunderbird, Gaim, Rythmbox, Tomboy and a Terminal). And I > > usually don't shut down the computer but use hibernation instead... > > > > I have no idea where the problem lies: I suspect it could be a X > > problem, or a window manager problem or maybe a memory problem. But > > normally everything is working (X and the window manager make no > > problems other than that) and 512 megs of RAM is not much, but it should > > > > be enough and the RAM is fine (I memtested it)... > > > > Does anyone have an idea where the problem lies or how to fix it? > > > > TIA! > > > > cheers, Severin > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Dennis Ritchie) From slewin at rogers.com Thu Dec 21 16:14:13 2006 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:14:13 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu, random background image at startup In-Reply-To: <20061221152742.GA12117@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061221152742.GA12117@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <458AB2D5.7000904@rogers.com> stan wrote: > How can I acomplish this same goal in the KDE version shiped with Kubuntu > 6.10? The one way I know how to do this, is by right clicking anywhere on the dsktop. Then go to "Configure Desktop". Select slideshow and then press setup. There you can either select folder(s) or Picture(s) that you want to be randomly selected. You can also select the time that each background is randomly selected. I know this is not exacly what you aked, but it is the closest tht I know. I think, if you put a very high number for the change of picture that you may only get one per session. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu 6.10 From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Thu Dec 21 16:14:43 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:14:43 -0600 Subject: Looking Glass In-Reply-To: <200612202052.50115.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200612202052.50115.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20061221101443.4c9b67b1@WizardsTower> Paul Kaplan said: > I saw that Project Looking Glass hit v1.0 this week. Has anyone used > it? Comments? > Paul > I installed it last night. Everything went fine and quickly, the desktop is beautiful, the 3D effects are astounding and pretty quick on this old PIII 550 MHz. The menus are quite lacking and sometimes typing didn't happen. I wasn't able to open Sylpheed-claws no matter what I did but when shutting down a term from which I had attempted to invoke Syllpheed-claws I /did/ see sylpheed's shutdown dialog. All in all it was very impressive, especially on this old kit but it has a way to go yet in regard to actually getting things done. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" From freepalestin at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 21 16:22:50 2006 From: freepalestin at dslextreme.com (Darlene Wallach) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:22:50 -0800 Subject: Making a CD recorder work In-Reply-To: <20061221112223.GA2040@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> <4589F0EE.5080203@dslextreme.com> <20061221112223.GA2040@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <458AB4DA.60701@dslextreme.com> stan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:26:54PM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: > >>stan wrote: >> >>>I've used cdrecord and cdrdao in the past on Debian machnes with success. I >>>just installed a HP CD Writer in my Ubuntu machine, and when I run cdrecord >>>-scanbus I get only the following: >>> >>>root at ubuntu:~# cdrecord -scanbus >>>Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg >>>Schilling >>>NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of >>>cdrecord >>> and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. >>> Please send bug reports and support requests to >>> . >>> The original author should not be bothered with problems >>> of this version. >>> >>> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic >>> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. >>> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. >>> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open >>> '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. >>> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. >>> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord >>> dev=help'. >>> /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . >>> >>>I have developed some autmated scripts for buring ISO's. and audio CD's >>>using cdrecord, and cdrdao. I'd like to be able to make these work on >>>Ubuntu. >>> >>>What do I need to do to convert these? >>> >>> >> >>Stan, >> >>Am I correct in assuming the HP CD Writer is not SCSI, rather it is >>IDE? > > > Yes, you are correct. > >>Does >>/usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup >>help with setting up your system? >> > > > To some extent. I was able to convert the cdrecord based scripts, after > setting up /dev/hdc as the default device there, and removing any > references to the device in the scripts. > > Looks like under more moder versions of Linux, I don't need teh SCSI > emulation for cdrecord, right. > > That however leaves me with the issue of the cdrdao scripts. Reading > the man page for it, it appears as though it still needs the SCSI emulation. > Is this correct? If so, I see 2 choices here. 1. Make the SCSI emualation > work, or 2. convert the cdrao scripts to use cdrecord. > > I'm afraid that the reasons for the use of the 2 different tools are lost > in the mists of time. Which would be easier? > > And thanks for the help! > Stan, I have a SCSI CD RW so I have not had to deal with an IDE CD RW. I googled "cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver." Looks like you need to modify your boot loader either grub or lilo. See the following two results of my google results. Hope this helps. Also, please reply to the Ubuntu users email list so everyone gets the benefit of the question, the discussion, and the potential resolution. I hope my response is of help and use. Darlene ==================================================================== 1) http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2002-June/007518.html After spending much time figuring out how to get cd writing to work on LFS, I finally got it this morning. Here are 3 easy steps to spitting some coasters. You probably just need step 2. 1. Make sure you have cdrtools installed, and have ide-scsi in your kernel. 2. Add this option to your bootloader hdd(or hdc, or whatever your cdwriter is)=ide-scsi 3. If you use pure devfs like I do, link /dev/scsi/(a big list of directorys I can't bother to remember)/generic to /dev/sg0. If you use devfsd, good luck figuring out how to make it work if it doesn't. 4. Put a coaster in your mouth, and spit it out. There is no step 4. Well, at least it SHOULD work. I haven't actually burnt a CD yet, but cdrecord -scanbus says that it's working. Michael Wu 2) http://archive.lug.boulder.co.us/Week-of-Mon-20040412/027240.html Thought it might need the "append hdc=ide-scsi" fix. Sarge installed with grub so I edited the /boot/menu.lst file with guidance from google to look like... title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.25-1-386 root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.25-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd.img-2.4.25-1-386 savedefault boot Not positive that is correct, but it seems to have worked as I see the following with dmesg: scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices From dragffy at yandex.ru Thu Dec 21 16:33:53 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:33:53 +0000 Subject: wifi apps In-Reply-To: <1166653047.5381.19.camel@localhost> References: <1166653047.5381.19.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166718833.6469.8.camel@worldventures> Kwifi manager and network-manager-gnome On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > I was looking in the repo's and found airsnort and oinkmaster. Are > there better apps than these for detecting and accessing wifi networks? > > From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br Thu Dec 21 16:43:22 2006 From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:43:22 -0200 Subject: Xubuntu and WiFi Madness (version 6.10) In-Reply-To: <200612210826.kBL8QZ10011597@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> References: <200612210826.kBL8QZ10011597@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <200612211443.22862.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br> On Thursday 21 December 2006 06:26, Trevor Nye wrote: > I had a problem with my Toshiba. The answer in my case was two connections. > 1. eth0 cable, had a static ip > > 2. eth1 wifi DHCP > > My router/wifi box did not like the static ip address, I set the cable to > DHCP and wizzo they both worked. > HTH I've tried all flavours of Ubuntu on my Toshiba and no problem! But my eth1 was always set to static ip. The only issue I got was with Xubuntu, no laptop power control. That was on LiveCD testing! Ricardo Brazil -- In Lak'ech - Mitakuye Oyasin - Ubuntu - Ho'oponopoono ========================================================== Linux user # 102240 => PGP: 748A9E35 ========================================================== From tshepang at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 16:53:07 2006 From: tshepang at gmail.com (Tshepang Lekhonkhobe) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:53:07 +0200 Subject: GUI program for converting sound files? In-Reply-To: <458AAD6E.2000204@internode.on.net> References: <4589E0BB.3040706@gmail.com> <4589F3B2.8090605@grm.net> <458A1DE9.9030506@fahrlander.net> <458AAD6E.2000204@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <857993970612210853sfe1178ctae32de02cd89d939@mail.gmail.com> On 12/21/06, squareyes wrote: > Hi all, > am also trying SoundConverter, > can convert flac to ogg-vorbis, but not to mp3. > Option is there in preferences, but is "greyed out" > Have I missed something? I installed gstreamer0.10-lame from Marillat's repos (debian-multimedia.org) to achieve this task. I could also convert wma files to FLAC, MP3, and WAV but not OGG with the gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg. From jdavila at hampshire.edu Thu Dec 21 16:59:14 2006 From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:59:14 -0500 Subject: question about VI [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <458AA6DA.8030704@multivia.com> References: <4588181A.9050802@hampshire.edu> <4588C1BB.6080506@bobsbits.net> <458AA161.9030203@hampshire.edu> <458AA6DA.8030704@multivia.com> Message-ID: <458ABD62.7060907@hampshire.edu> Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: >> Hi. Thanks for the reply. :set comments= did not change this behavior. >> Strange thing is, it does it fine with the // comments in C++, but >> treats # differently. >> > > Jaime, I've not the solution but I've and obvious idea: ¿Have you > searched for that in vi/vim users mail list? > I'm sure you'll get a quick response there. > > Thanks. Searching on the vim list did bring up something that google didn't. (well, actually, that doesn't make sense. I think I just was more patient the second time around, and chedked the results all the way back to March 2003). What I wanted can be achieved by set cinkeys-=0# when using cindent. Thanks again, Jaime -- ****************************************************** Jaime J. Davila Associate Professor of Computer Science Hampshire College School of Cognitive Science jdavila at hampshire dot edu http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila ******************************************************* From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Thu Dec 21 16:20:49 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:20:49 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, random background image at startup References: <20061221152742.GA12117@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <87slf95ify.fsf@fjellstad.org> stan writes: > I'm building a machine that I plan on transitioning my wife to as a > workstation. She is curently using an older Debian machine, running an old > version of Gnome (1.4 if I recall corectly). > > I have a small perl script that selects a random image from a given > directory, and makes this her background when she logs in. > > How can I acomplish this same goal in the KDE version shiped with Kubuntu > 6.10? I would use the same script. Let the script copy the image to say ~/.local/background.jpg In Configure Desktop, choose this image as your background -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From oozypal at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 17:47:04 2006 From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:47:04 +0300 Subject: Program for editing images metadata (exip, xmp, etc) Message-ID: <299ffe0d0612210947q41016e62q7b2410963b4c2011@mail.gmail.com> Is there a program for editing images metadata (exip, xmp, etc)? -- OOzy Kubuntu-Edgy From david at adboyd.com Thu Dec 21 17:51:19 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:51:19 -0500 Subject: length of time for first update after installing 6.10 Message-ID: How long should the first update take after installing 6.10? I installed last night, onto a 17G drive, with 256M of memory, and a broadband cable connection. The updater popped up, with a large amount of updates available. I started it running, and it seemed as if it was sitting on the first one for a very very long time. The drive light _was_ flashing, but it still _felt_ as if it were hung up. Any ideas on ~ how long it should take to run? Thanks, Dave From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 18:18:29 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:18:29 -0500 Subject: WinTV card Message-ID: <20061221181829.GA19485@teddy.fas.com> I'm trying to set up to watch TV on my newly built Kubuntu 6.10 machine. I have a WinTV card installed, and I apt-get installed xawtv, and fbtv, but they both fail to work. What prepatory steps do I need to take to get his to work? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From jcarlos10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 18:26:24 2006 From: jcarlos10 at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Becerra Irene) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:26:24 -0600 Subject: length of time for first update after installing 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49f8dc360612211026q4efd94f2t9e4eb85a98f29415@mail.gmail.com> I'm not sure on the time, but I have run the same procedure with a dial-up connection, and after some minutes it had already downloaded at least the first 10 updates. Regards, Juan Carlos On 12/21/06, J. David Boyd wrote: > > > How long should the first update take after installing 6.10? > > I installed last night, onto a 17G drive, with 256M of memory, and a > broadband > cable connection. > > The updater popped up, with a large amount of updates available. > > I started it running, and it seemed as if it was sitting on the first one > for > a very very long time. > > The drive light _was_ flashing, but it still _felt_ as if it were hung up. > > Any ideas on ~ how long it should take to run? > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Thu Dec 21 18:34:05 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:34:05 +0100 Subject: length of time for first update after installing 6.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061221193405.4476de5c.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: > How long should the first update take after installing 6.10? > I installed last night, onto a 17G drive, with 256M of memory, and a broadband > cable connection. > The updater popped up, with a large amount of updates available. > I started it running, and it seemed as if it was sitting on the first one for > a very very long time. Should take only a few seconds. It it hangs, most likely there is a network problem, maybe you are using a mirror that is faulty... I often have problems with mirrors, so now I always connect to the main Ubuntu servers in the UK. You can go to System->Administration->Software Properties, to select the server, then try again to run the update-manager. I see yo have only 256MB of RAM though, that's not much run Gnome, so maybe this is causing some weird kind of bug. But try simple things first, and switch to the main Ubuntu server. -- Vince From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Dec 21 18:49:04 2006 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:49:04 -0200 Subject: Fetching updated packages automatically In-Reply-To: References: <4413284c0612190835w7e69fe72t1a55ca44d87367e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0612211049j2d6147e3lb1d922c9121674bd@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, I should have been more informative: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Server So, the solution I am looking for needs be CLI-based... Hervé. On 12/19/06, Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > On 12/19/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > I can see that the script /etc/cron.daily/apt is running apt-get > > update for me every night. Every night? I think so. > > Well, it seems to use some variables to determine its behaviour, and I > > would like to enable the automatic fetching of updated packages. > > > > IOW, every night, I want it to apt-get update && apt-get -d > > dist-upgrade, so that I can update when I want without delay. > > > > Anybody knows where I should set the option? /etc/apt/* do not seem to > > do AFAICS... > > You didn't mention what version you're running, but on Edgy (6.10), > the option you want to set is in System/Administration/Software > Sources. Click on the Internet Updates tab. There you can set how > often you want to check for updates and whether to download (and even > install) new packages automatically. > > -Eamonn > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 18:52:14 2006 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:52:14 +0100 Subject: Weird GNOME behaviour (in Dapper and Edgy) In-Reply-To: <49f8dc360612210808o3c5c00a9i2b0f9748ce681470@mail.gmail.com> References: <45606429.40803@gmail.com> <49f8dc360612210802w6b2ddb0ib67d6a299ed307d1@mail.gmail.com> <49f8dc360612210808o3c5c00a9i2b0f9748ce681470@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458AD7DE.7030708@gmail.com> Hi! So you could actually see that the apps are 'running' but the windows/GUI is not displayed? (You wrote: 1. I'm working on a terminal (trying to set up subversion). 2. Then, when I try to open some applications they seem to open but after a while they just disappear. 3. I run 'ps aux' from the terminal and I can see the applications running, but nothing in the GUI. ) That's new for me, I actually never had the idea to check if the apps run in the background... And to wether disabling DHCP (using a static adress) works: No, it doesn't. I tried it but the problems occured then, too... So I'm went back to using Network Manager and thus DHCP... And the problem did only happen to me once in the last 10 days, so I decided to just live with it... But please post any fixes that you might find! cheers, Severin Juan Carlos Becerra Irene schrieb: > I forgot to add the link to my previous post (November 8), you can see > it here: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-November/099268.html > > From norman at littletank.org Thu Dec 21 18:55:51 2006 From: norman at littletank.org (norman) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:55:51 +0000 Subject: digital camcorder In-Reply-To: <1166716490.6047.13.camel@localhost> References: <1166469871.4752.65.camel@localhost> <1166716490.6047.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166727351.4849.95.camel@localhost> > > Norman > 1. try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire > 2. even a basic description saves me wasting time asking you, but "can > you describe the problem please?" > 3. What have you tried to fix the problem(s) Thank you for coming in on this thread. The problem was that I was unable to capture videos via my firewire. It was eventually resolved by using dv1394 instead of raw1394. Norman From wade at wadesmart.com Thu Dec 21 18:55:05 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:55:05 -0600 Subject: Flash Apps On Linux Message-ID: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> 12212006 1253 GMT-6 I am on the phone right now with a client who has a flash based app on their windows computer. Im have answered every question about moving to linux except this one, and Im a bit stumped. Can we run flash apps on linux? I havent ever seen one but that doesnt mean they arent out there. Wade From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 19:05:18 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:05:18 -0500 Subject: Flash Apps On Linux In-Reply-To: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> References: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <20061221190518.GC19485@teddy.fas.com> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 12:55:05PM -0600, Wade Smart wrote: > 12212006 1253 GMT-6 > > I am on the phone right now with a client who has a flash based app on > their windows computer. Im have answered every question about moving to > linux except this one, and Im a bit stumped. > > Can we run flash apps on linux? I havent ever seen one but that doesnt > mean they arent out there. There is a flash player for Linux. Automatix can install it for you.> -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From scotjohnson at mac.com Thu Dec 21 19:13:54 2006 From: scotjohnson at mac.com (Scot Johnson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:13:54 -0600 Subject: Emacs-snapshot Right Alt key Message-ID: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com> My right alt key is not responsive in emacs-snapshot (emacs 22.0.50.1). I'm using edgy on a Gateway 4530GZ laptop. I didn't have any problems w/ this in Dapper using (I think) the same emacs-snapshot version. Anybody know of a fix? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Scot From jcarlos10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 19:29:01 2006 From: jcarlos10 at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Becerra Irene) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:29:01 -0600 Subject: Weird GNOME behaviour (in Dapper and Edgy) In-Reply-To: <458AD7DE.7030708@gmail.com> References: <45606429.40803@gmail.com> <49f8dc360612210802w6b2ddb0ib67d6a299ed307d1@mail.gmail.com> <49f8dc360612210808o3c5c00a9i2b0f9748ce681470@mail.gmail.com> <458AD7DE.7030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49f8dc360612211129j401fdfc5j82242e8e02a32ca3@mail.gmail.com> > > That's new for me, I actually never had the idea to check if the apps > run in the background... Running ps aux from the terminal will show you a list of the processes running. I have never waited long enough to see if the applications finally open (as you described in your first post), what I usually do is using kill as an act of desperation. (kill after running ps aux) But you have to make sure to have an open terminal before the weird behavior happens, because last time I got it I wasn't able to open it either. Another thing I noticed was that when having the problem, I plugged a usb flash memory and when it recognized it, a Nautilus window opened (as expected if not having the problem), after that I was able to open more Nautilus windows using the File-> New Window menu, but only that worked, if I clicked on the Home icon or any other, everything was the same (No windows open). Really weird. And to wether disabling DHCP (using a static adress) works: No, it > doesn't. I tried it but the problems occured then, too... > > So I'm went back to using Network Manager and thus DHCP... And the problem did only happen to me once in the last 10 days, so I > decided to just live with it... But please post any fixes that you might > find! Maybe I will have to live with that too. If I find something I'll tell you for sure. 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Regards mks From alain.muls at telenet.be Thu Dec 21 19:37:32 2006 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:37:32 +0100 Subject: Weird GNOME behaviour (in Dapper and Edgy) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612212037.32977.alain.muls@telenet.be> On Thursday 21 December 2006 17:02, ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > I'm also having the same problem that you report. Actually I'd already > reported the same to this list, some time ago, when using Draper on a > Virtual Machine running on windows, now I'm using Edgy on my physical box > (Dell Dimension 9200) and the problem ocurrs from time to time. > > Do you have any idea of what is going wrong? > > Is a DHCP misconfiguration the cause of the problem? In the meantime I'll > try to run the experiment you suggest. I switched my son's PC to edgy a week ago, and he told me he has the same kind of problem. Even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace didn't do the trick, only a reboot allowed to open up eg. hie home dir in nautilus. Hopefully someone will come up with an answer, since I have never noticed this before (using DD and HH on the same box) > > Regards, > Juan Carlos > > On 11/19/06, Severin Schoepke wrote: > > Hi list! > > > > I decided to switch from Windows with the Dapper release. I installed it > > and all went well. But because it was my first Linux installation that I > > used for daily work, I messed around and tried lots of stuff, which > > maybe introduced damage... When Edgy was released, I reformatted the HD > > and did a clean install of Edgy. I tried to keep this installation clean > > (only using official repos, no EasyUbuntu, no Automatix and so on). > > > > But I have a weird problem with both installations: Sometimes Gnome > > doesn't allow the creation of new windows: When I'm working and want to > > start a new app or open a folder, it happens from time to time that the > > app/folder is not started/opened. There's a new entry in the task bar in > > the likes of 'Mozilla Firefox wird gestartet...' (FF is being started in > > english) that just disappears after a few seconds. I then can't start > > applications, be it via the start menu, a panel launcher, a starter on > > the desktop or from a terminal that is already open... Then suddenly, > > after 10 minutes or so, the apps finally start/the windows get opened... > > > > This is really annoying, and a fix for it is to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and > > restart X... And I find it strange that noone else reported this > > problem, I can't believe I'm the only one suffering from this... > > > > As I said it happenend on both installations (the probably messed up > > Dapper and the clean Edgy)... I use a Dell Inspirion laptop with 512 > > megs RAM and with a GeForce FX5200. The binary drivers (nvidia-glx) from > > the official repo are installed. Most of the time I have quite a few > > apps running (Thunderbird, Gaim, Rythmbox, Tomboy and a Terminal). And I > > usually don't shut down the computer but use hibernation instead... > > > > I have no idea where the problem lies: I suspect it could be a X > > problem, or a window manager problem or maybe a memory problem. But > > normally everything is working (X and the window manager make no > > problems other than that) and 512 megs of RAM is not much, but it should > > be enough and the RAM is fine (I memtested it)... > > > > Does anyone have an idea where the problem lies or how to fix it? > > > > TIA! > > > > cheers, Severin -- mvg/Alain ________________________________________________________ Alain Muls Tel +32.2.7426340 Royal Military Academy Fax +32.2.7426472 Dep CISS-ASGE alain.muls at telenet.be ________________________________________________________ From T.Six at gmx.de Thu Dec 21 19:52:24 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:52:24 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo In-Reply-To: <87d56e5nmc.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87d56e5nmc.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad wrote the following on 20.12.2006 21:16: > No indication which repository the opera package came from. If the > system kept track of which repository the package came from, the > information should still be available even though I removed the > repository from sources.list Ahh ic. You are right that make sence. Well it seems then it´s really not possible - hmmm. bye Thilo PS. ....and merry Xmas everybody ;) -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From dontodd at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 20:34:57 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:34:57 -0500 Subject: Program for editing images metadata (exip, xmp, etc) In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0612210947q41016e62q7b2410963b4c2011@mail.gmail.com> References: <299ffe0d0612210947q41016e62q7b2410963b4c2011@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612211234l4959dc5cx2957a9cdc5118811@mail.gmail.com> On 12/21/06, OOzy Pal wrote: > Is there a program for editing images metadata (exip, xmp, etc)? Try XnView. Todd From edwardsah3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 20:47:59 2006 From: edwardsah3 at gmail.com (Art Edwards) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:47:59 -0700 Subject: Seg faults on update Message-ID: <8f77cea50612211247u7d2ffe2ft2733634670fbf454@mail.gmail.com> I am getting consistent segfaults from both aptitude and apt-get when i attempt update. sudo aptitude update Segmentation faultsts... 0% I have an apt.conf file with Apt::Cache-Limit 22582912; This had been very effective with debian. Am I missing something? I'm running Edgy on a compac presario laptop with 521 MB memory (128M dedicated to graphics), a turion (AMD) 64 cpu. Art Edwards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm > running Edgy on a compac presario laptop with 521 MB memory (128M > dedicated to graphics), a turion (AMD) 64 cpu. > > Art Edwards There were a thread about it this week, including a workaround. search for: "apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations" HTH Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From edwardsah3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 21:16:22 2006 From: edwardsah3 at gmail.com (Art Edwards) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:16:22 -0700 Subject: Seg faults on update In-Reply-To: References: <8f77cea50612211247u7d2ffe2ft2733634670fbf454@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f77cea50612211316k7da43c97jab7738ff606ed6be@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. The work around did the trick. Do you know whether the patch works as well? On 12/21/06, Thilo Six wrote: > > Art Edwards wrote the following on 21.12.2006 21:47: > > I am getting consistent segfaults from both aptitude and apt-get when i > > attempt update. > > > > sudo aptitude update > > Segmentation faultsts... 0% > > > > I have an apt.conf file with > > > > Apt::Cache-Limit 22582912; > > > > This had been very effective with debian. Am I missing something? I'm > > running Edgy on a compac presario laptop with 521 MB memory (128M > > dedicated to graphics), a turion (AMD) 64 cpu. > > > > Art Edwards > > There were a thread about it this week, including a workaround. > > search for: > "apt: Apt SEGVs on most operations" > > HTH Thilo > -- > i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE > - some friend of mine > > gpg key: 0x4A411E09 > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Thu Dec 21 21:48:38 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:48:38 +0100 Subject: Seg faults on update In-Reply-To: <8f77cea50612211316k7da43c97jab7738ff606ed6be@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f77cea50612211247u7d2ffe2ft2733634670fbf454@mail.gmail.com> <8f77cea50612211316k7da43c97jab7738ff606ed6be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Art Edwards wrote the following on 21.12.2006 22:16: > Thanks. The work around did the trick. Do you know whether the patch > works as well? No sorry. I use still dapper. I think this bug affects only edgy? bye Thilo From freepalestin at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 21 21:51:35 2006 From: freepalestin at dslextreme.com (Darlene Wallach) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:51:35 -0800 Subject: Making a CD recorder work In-Reply-To: <20061221210016.GA25318@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> <4589F0EE.5080203@dslextreme.com> <20061221112223.GA2040@teddy.fas.com> <458AB4DA.60701@dslextreme.com> <20061221210016.GA25318@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <458B01E7.30302@dslextreme.com> stan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 08:22:50AM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: > >>stan wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:26:54PM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: >>> >>> >>>>stan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I've used cdrecord and cdrdao in the past on Debian machnes with success. I >>>>>just installed a HP CD Writer in my Ubuntu machine, and when I run cdrecord >>>>>-scanbus I get only the following: >>>>> >>>>>root at ubuntu:~# cdrecord -scanbus >>>>>Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg >>>>>Schilling >>>>>NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of >>>>>cdrecord >>>>> and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. >>>>> Please send bug reports and support requests to >>>>> . >>>>> The original author should not be bothered with problems >>>>> of this version. >>>>> >>>>> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic >>>>> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. >>>>> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. >>>>> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open >>>>> '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. >>>>> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. >>>>> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord >>>>> dev=help'. >>>>> /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . >>>>> >>>>>I have developed some autmated scripts for buring ISO's. and audio CD's >>>>>using cdrecord, and cdrdao. I'd like to be able to make these work on >>>>>Ubuntu. >>>>> >>>>>What do I need to do to convert these? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Stan, >>>> >>>>Am I correct in assuming the HP CD Writer is not SCSI, rather it is >>>>IDE? >>> >>> >>>Yes, you are correct. >>> >>> >>>>Does >>>>/usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup >>>>help with setting up your system? >>>> >>> >>> >>>To some extent. I was able to convert the cdrecord based scripts, after >>>setting up /dev/hdc as the default device there, and removing any >>>references to the device in the scripts. >>> >>>Looks like under more moder versions of Linux, I don't need teh SCSI >>>emulation for cdrecord, right. >>> >>>That however leaves me with the issue of the cdrdao scripts. Reading >>>the man page for it, it appears as though it still needs the SCSI emulation. >>>Is this correct? If so, I see 2 choices here. 1. Make the SCSI emualation >>>work, or 2. convert the cdrao scripts to use cdrecord. >>> >>>I'm afraid that the reasons for the use of the 2 different tools are lost >>>in the mists of time. Which would be easier? >>> >>>And thanks for the help! >>> >> >>Stan, >> >>I have a SCSI CD RW so I have not had to deal with an IDE CD RW. >> >>I googled "cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. >>Cannot open SCSI driver." >> >>Looks like you need to modify your boot loader either grub or lilo. >>See the following two results of my google results. Hope this helps. >> >>Also, please reply to the Ubuntu users email list so everyone >>gets the benefit of the question, the discussion, and the potential >>resolution. >> >>I hope my response is of help and use. >> >>Darlene >>==================================================================== >>1) >>http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2002-June/007518.html >>After spending much time figuring out how to get cd writing to work on LFS, >>I finally got it this morning. Here are 3 easy steps to spitting some >>coasters. You probably just need step 2. >> >>1. Make sure you have cdrtools installed, and have ide-scsi in your kernel. >>2. Add this option to your bootloader >>hdd(or hdc, or whatever your cdwriter is)=ide-scsi >>3. If you use pure devfs like I do, link /dev/scsi/(a big list of >>directorys I can't bother to remember)/generic to /dev/sg0. If you use >>devfsd, good luck figuring out how to make it work if it doesn't. >>4. Put a coaster in your mouth, and spit it out. There is no step 4. >> >>Well, at least it SHOULD work. I haven't actually burnt a CD yet, but >>cdrecord -scanbus says that it's working. >> >>Michael Wu >> >> >>2) >>http://archive.lug.boulder.co.us/Week-of-Mon-20040412/027240.html >>Thought it might need the "append hdc=ide-scsi" fix. Sarge installed >>with grub so I edited the /boot/menu.lst file with guidance from google >>to look like... >> >>title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.25-1-386 >>root (hd0,0) >>kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.25-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro >>hdc=ide-scsi >>initrd /initrd.img-2.4.25-1-386 >>savedefault >>boot >> >>Not positive that is correct, but it seems to have worked as I see the >>following with dmesg: >>scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices > > > Thanks, I took a crack at solution 2, and it did not work, even after I > added ide-scsi to /etc/modules. I think I vaugely remember that this has to > be built into the kernnel, and can't be a module for this to work. > > I'm using the stock Ubuntu kernel, and I'm wondering if it might be > sipmpler to conver the cdrdao based scripts to use cdrecord (which dose not > need the SCSI emulation)? > > Here they are: > > I use this one to burn bootable ISO's > > drdao write --speed 16 --eject --device 0,0,0 --driver generic-mmc > --overburn /home/stan/toc4 > > and this one to make copies of original CD's to put in the car > > cdrdao copy --eject --speed 16 --eject --device 0,0,0 --driver generic-mmc > > Can cdrecord do these 2 things? > > The cdrecord based script, which I have already converted is used to burn > CD's from sound files that I get off of LP's or cassettes, the converted > version looks like this: > > cdrecord -tao -pad -v speed=16 dev=0,0 -audio -eject $@ > > Thanks for any ideas on this. I'm trying to get a bunch of machines > upgraded/built over the holidays, and I rather nothave to go down the rabit > trail of building a custom kernel, if I cna help it. > Stan, Please reply to the "ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com" instead of a private reply to me. I'm no expert on cdrecord. Other people may have experienced your particular problem and solved it - so they could give you the exact solution you need to solve your issue. I have not tried using cdrecord the way you are using it. I do remember reading somewhere that it might be a good idea to set the speed to "0" to make it more likely all CD readers can read the CD. I do not use the "eject" option of cdrecord. I use "dev=0,0,0" not "dev=0,0" though obviously both are legal and legitimate options. where according to man cdrecord device=scsibus,target,lun btw, when I want to burn CDs with audio files, I use mkisofs first, then I use cdrecord to burn the iso onto CD. I have not tried your method. Hopefully people with experience and knowledge of cdrecord will offer their knowledge and experience. Again, please reply to the ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com instead of to me privately - try "reply all" option. Darlene From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 21:55:45 2006 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:55:45 +0000 Subject: Fetching updated packages automatically In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612211049j2d6147e3lb1d922c9121674bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4413284c0612190835w7e69fe72t1a55ca44d87367e8@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612211049j2d6147e3lb1d922c9121674bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/21/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > Sorry, I should have been more informative: > Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Server > > So, the solution I am looking for needs be CLI-based... OK, then I think you need to add the following lines in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "1"; Hope that helps. -Eamonn From evega at amnet.co.cr Thu Dec 21 22:05:45 2006 From: evega at amnet.co.cr (Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:05:45 -0600 Subject: help with access.log file from apache Message-ID: <026101c7254c$38fb1630$aaf14290$@co.cr> Hello Guys,,, I see at my apache2 access log file the following entry. I try to see if my site was hacked or not and I did not found any evidence that shows that it have being. But I see that the response code for my apache its 200, and that it's an OK I did try to find any dir that say's something like k5 and no one. Any idea of what should I look at? Thanks 217.20.215.115 - - [12/Dec/2006:00:26:01 -0800] "GET http://www.k5.ru/ HTTP/1.1" 200 370 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4 .01; Windows 95)" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimitri.mallis at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 22:15:37 2006 From: dimitri.mallis at gmail.com (Dimitri Mallis) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:15:37 +0200 Subject: cat problem ??? Message-ID: hi all i want to create scripts from the command line using cat... but... dimitri at programming:~/SCRIPTS$ cat penguin.sh cat: penguin.sh: No such file or directory in all the example tutorials i have looked at cat is supposed to create the file for you if it does not exist :( i have to use gedit each time, which is nice because it has syntax highlighting :) I'd just like to know why cat doesn't create a file if it doesn't exist ( i have looked at man cat & info cat, but i couldn't find my solution there) any thoughts? thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at laniels.org Thu Dec 21 22:14:49 2006 From: steve at laniels.org (Stephen R Laniel) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:14:49 -0500 Subject: cat problem ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061221221449.GP3599@whitehail.bostoncoop.net> On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:15:37AM +0200, Dimitri Mallis wrote: > in all the example tutorials i have looked at cat is supposed to create the > file for you if it does not exist :( That's not what 'cat' does. cat prints the contents of the files you specify. If you want to create a file that doesn't exist, use 'touch'. -- Stephen R. Laniel steve at laniels.org Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Thu Dec 21 22:21:03 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:21:03 -0500 Subject: cat problem ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166739663.25697.63.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:15 +0200, Dimitri Mallis wrote: > hi all > > i want to create scripts from the command line using cat... but... > > dimitri at programming:~/SCRIPTS$ cat penguin.sh > cat: penguin.sh: No such file or directory > > in all the example tutorials i have looked at cat is supposed to > create the file for you if it does not exist :( > i have to use gedit each time, which is nice because it has syntax > highlighting :) > > I'd just like to know why cat doesn't create a file if it doesn't > exist > > ( i have looked at man cat & info cat, but i couldn't find my solution > there) > > any thoughts? > thanks cat > filename will create a new file cat >> filename will append to an existing file > > From dimitri.mallis at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 22:29:49 2006 From: dimitri.mallis at gmail.com (Dimitri Mallis) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:29:49 +0200 Subject: How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ? In-Reply-To: References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> <8CF037A9-6DF3-4603-B178-EF85A1BB37F1@openforce.com> <78d24f7a0612210309h4147ac87wc987307f2217193@mail.gmail.com> <78d24f7a0612210324s57afc968vdc669dddf1777562@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: a lot of people new to Linux complain about how much time it has taken to get used to it, but... just think, the only reason you are so comfortable in Window$ is because you have been using it all your life. i remember when i was using sum sort of DO$ when i was a kid & then one day my dad upgraded to Win3.1 & later 3.11. i had no idea how to use the new Win3.1. We all had to learn from scratch. the same with Win95 & 98. was also a learning curve. & again with Win200 & XP vista will prob also be a bit of a learning curve. it was the same with the M$ office packs. each new version looked different & had more features. (& more bugs) the point it, a lot of people grew up on M$ stuff & never even knew of alternatives, maybe a mac. once you get the hang of it u'll never go back to M$. there is just no need. every you can do in window$ you can do in Linux, just better & you can actually do way way more stuff in Linux dont give up, it worth it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexweili at yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 22:37:01 2006 From: alexweili at yahoo.com (wei li) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:37:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: dapper with dual core not recognize Intel 3945 card Message-ID: <224152.34864.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I can use my Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 card in dapper on a dual core with i386 kernel. But, when I changed the kernel to i686, which supports SMPs, dapper can not recognize the card anymore. Are there any modules/packages that I need to enable to the card? Thanks, Wei __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jcarlos10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 22:39:09 2006 From: jcarlos10 at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Becerra Irene) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:39:09 -0600 Subject: Weird GNOME behaviour (in Dapper and Edgy) In-Reply-To: <200612212036.32636.ubuntu-users@schoenhaber.de> References: <45606429.40803@gmail.com> <458AD7DE.7030708@gmail.com> <49f8dc360612211129j401fdfc5j82242e8e02a32ca3@mail.gmail.com> <200612212036.32636.ubuntu-users@schoenhaber.de> Message-ID: <49f8dc360612211439r25548184saf2669b389c9d9@mail.gmail.com> > > But you have to make sure to have an open terminal before the weird > > behavior happens, because last time I got it I wasn't able to open it > > either. > > Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... Ctrl-Alt-F6 (Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to X) don't work? > > Regards > mks Yes, you are right, I had forgotten about that option. So I correct now, you don't need an open terminal when that happens. Sorry about that, but as I said I'm not an experienced Linux user. Regards, Juan Carlos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrwidey at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 22:59:45 2006 From: mrwidey at gmail.com (Jamie Kerwick) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:59:45 +0000 Subject: GMAIL In-Reply-To: <200612211026.kBLAPtAO028796@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> References: <78d24f7a0612210216j241fa3d0h57d78690ee3f47c@mail.gmail.com> <200612211026.kBLAPtAO028796@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> Message-ID: <81d25e320612211459p4ccd598bya262fabf83b5463e@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, Do you still need an invite ?? ta. Jamie On 21/12/06, Trevor Nye wrote: > > > > > I realise I will be in someone's bad books. > > > > But I would like to sign-up for GMAIL. > > However as I am in France I cannot do so by my mobile. > > > > Would someone be kind enough to sponsor me. > > > > Replies to me only please. > > > > TIA > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > From james.gray at dot.com.au Thu Dec 21 23:00:46 2006 From: james.gray at dot.com.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:00:46 +1100 Subject: cat problem ??? In-Reply-To: <1166739663.25697.63.camel@localhost> References: <1166739663.25697.63.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200612221000.47153.james.gray@dot.com.au> On Friday 22 December 2006 09:21, John Dangler wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:15 +0200, Dimitri Mallis wrote: > > hi all > > > > i want to create scripts from the command line using cat... but... > > > > dimitri at programming:~/SCRIPTS$ cat penguin.sh > > cat: penguin.sh: No such file or directory > > > > in all the example tutorials i have looked at cat is supposed to > > create the file for you if it does not exist :( > > i have to use gedit each time, which is nice because it has syntax > > highlighting :) > > > > I'd just like to know why cat doesn't create a file if it doesn't > > exist > > > > ( i have looked at man cat & info cat, but i couldn't find my solution > > there) > > > > any thoughts? > > thankshttp://www.digg.com/tech_news/World_s_Best_Geek_Christmas_Party > > cat > filename will create a new file > cat >> filename will append to an existing file This is being pedantic, but the examples above, whilst 100% correct, have little to do with "cat" doing anything to the filesystem. The file operations are actually being handled by shell redirection :) Consider (for the OP): $ cat - << EOF >> foo.txt Hello from the console EOF $ cat foo.txt Heloo from the console $ Have a think about it, then retry it with $ cat - << EOF > foo.txt Cheers, James -- It takes a smart husband to have the last word and not use it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Thu Dec 21 22:38:57 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:38:57 +0100 Subject: List of packages from certain repo References: <45856661.1070101@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <4586B1C7.1030807@bobsbits.net> <4586B4BC.7050509@vandenieuwenhof.nl> <877iwoik5f.fsf@fjellstad.org> <87d56e5nmc.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <87fyb8swla.fsf@fjellstad.org> Thilo Six writes: > Ahh ic. You are right that make sence. > > Well it seems then it´s really not possible - hmmm. > > bye Thilo > > PS. ....and merry Xmas everybody ;) Merry Christmas to you too, and a Happy New Year. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 23:21:31 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:21:31 -0500 Subject: Making a CD recorder work In-Reply-To: <458B01E7.30302@dslextreme.com> References: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> <4589F0EE.5080203@dslextreme.com> <20061221112223.GA2040@teddy.fas.com> <458AB4DA.60701@dslextreme.com> <20061221210016.GA25318@teddy.fas.com> <458B01E7.30302@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <20061221232131.GA30322@teddy.fas.com> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 01:51:35PM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: > stan wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 08:22:50AM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: > > > >>stan wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:26:54PM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>stan wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I've used cdrecord and cdrdao in the past on Debian machnes with success. I > >>>>>just installed a HP CD Writer in my Ubuntu machine, and when I run cdrecord > Stan, > > Please reply to the "ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com" instead of a > private reply to me. > Sorry, I usually am able to just hit reply to mail from mailing lists. I looked at the author copy of the last email, and indeed it did go directly to you. Strange. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From stanb at panix.com Thu Dec 21 23:33:45 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:33:45 -0500 Subject: MythTV versions Message-ID: <20061221233345.GA31134@teddy.fas.com> I have a MythTV backend built from Koppmyth. I'm setting up some worksations using Kubuntu 6.10, and the mythfrontend program wants to speal protocol version 31. I upgraded the backend o the latest version (never a prticularly fun proposition :-)), and it still only speaks version 26. Is there some place I can get debs for Ubuntu that will speak the older version? Has anyone set up a Myth backend using Ubuntu, paricularly converting an existing system? I have about 1.2T of files, and I really don't want to lose themm. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Thu Dec 21 23:35:20 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:35:20 +0100 Subject: GMAIL In-Reply-To: <81d25e320612211459p4ccd598bya262fabf83b5463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612212335.kBLNZNHw026825@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com> No thanks, I was overwhelmed with help and I am now in the gmail community Have a good holiday for christmas Regards From ljpino at grm.net Thu Dec 21 23:47:37 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:47:37 -0600 Subject: Flash Apps On Linux In-Reply-To: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> References: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <458B1D19.7060303@grm.net> Wade Smart wrote: > 12212006 1253 GMT-6 > > I am on the phone right now with a client who has a flash based app on > their windows computer. Im have answered every question about moving to > linux except this one, and Im a bit stumped. > > Can we run flash apps on linux? I havent ever seen one but that doesnt > mean they arent out there. > > Wade > > > If you let the list know what type of app this would be, maybe somebody is already using something similar? ~Lorin From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Thu Dec 21 23:51:46 2006 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:51:46 +1100 Subject: Xubuntu (Reversion to 6.06 Makes Things Work) Message-ID: <200612221051.46862.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Bearing in mind that the full name for all versions of 6.06 was LTS (ie. Long Term Support) ... and that this still has a year to go, I reverted to 6.06. It installed perfectly without 'work-arounds' ... and now is updated. For this old celeron 366 with 96 Meg of RAM ... it's the appropriate solution. I do not understand why version 6.10 only half-found my wifi card ... and prevented me from installing and configuring it. Never mind ... I can wait until the next LTS is released. Thanks to all who offered solutions, thoughts and help. Merry Xmas and a Happier New Year!! Richard -- -- Irena and Richard Jenkins Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From raghu.vemuri at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 00:42:49 2006 From: raghu.vemuri at gmail.com (Raghuram Vemuri) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:42:49 -0600 Subject: Firefox, Thunderbird, Suspend Resume issues. Message-ID: <458B2A09.20903@gmail.com> Hello, I have the strangest thing happening on my Dell D800 laptop running Edgy. After resuming from a suspended state I find that the Firefox and Thunderbird windows that I had open are gone. The wireless interface eth1 also goes down. Now this doesn't always happen. Every once in a while everything will be fine after a suspend resume cycle. It does seem though Firefox and Thunderbird crash only when the network connection goes down. Maybe the two are related? I don't even know where to begin to try and find a solution. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks, Raghu From edwardsah3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 01:03:24 2006 From: edwardsah3 at gmail.com (Art Edwards) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:03:24 -0700 Subject: Flash Apps On Linux In-Reply-To: <458B1D19.7060303@grm.net> References: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> <458B1D19.7060303@grm.net> Message-ID: <8f77cea50612211703i18a16ad0y26062784cfcde0a7@mail.gmail.com> On the 32 bit side flash works rather well. There is a flash-7 plugin that you can get automatically from adobe. If you google flash 9 linux, you can get to the beta flash 9 plugin. On the 64-bit side, I'm just now, coincidentally, installing a 32-bit chroot (so far, so good) so that i can run a 32-bit firefox with the 32-bit flash app. Is your client on a 32-bit machine? Art Edwards On 12/21/06, Lorin Pino wrote: > > Wade Smart wrote: > > 12212006 1253 GMT-6 > > > > I am on the phone right now with a client who has a flash based app on > > their windows computer. Im have answered every question about moving to > > linux except this one, and Im a bit stumped. > > > > Can we run flash apps on linux? I havent ever seen one but that doesnt > > mean they arent out there. > > > > Wade > > > > > > > If you let the list know what type of app this would be, maybe somebody > is already using something similar? > ~Lorin > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edwardsah3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 01:09:24 2006 From: edwardsah3 at gmail.com (Art Edwards) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:09:24 -0700 Subject: Xubuntu (Reversion to 6.06 Makes Things Work) In-Reply-To: <200612221051.46862.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> References: <200612221051.46862.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <8f77cea50612211709y57778114w5717b8ea22c726ce@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, I had just the opposite experience with wifi. Installing edgy made things a little easier. With a small memory, my experience is that the older the distro, the better. Even linux has taken to windoze obesity. I think this is actually driven by users' (mine included) desire for slick looking desktops. As Opus once said "Physicists need Porsches too!!" Art Edwards On 12/21/06, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > > Bearing in mind that the full name for all versions of 6.06 was LTS (ie. > Long > Term Support) ... and that this still has a year to go, I reverted to 6.06 > . > It installed perfectly without 'work-arounds' ... and now is updated. For > this old celeron 366 with 96 Meg of RAM ... it's the appropriate > solution. I > do not understand why version 6.10 only half-found my wifi card ... and > prevented me from installing and configuring it. Never mind ... I can > wait > until the next LTS is released. > > Thanks to all who offered solutions, thoughts and help. 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URL: From barros001 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 02:07:33 2006 From: barros001 at gmail.com (Carlos Barros) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:07:33 -0200 Subject: USB Wireless and Pen-drive conflict In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612150834s501e0aa8nfa63c2b1b115effb@mail.gmail.com> References: <64bb86df0612150800r3a32625dmffe463f795668e43@mail.gmail.com> <4413284c0612150834s501e0aa8nfa63c2b1b115effb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64bb86df0612211807x54045442ne36752b646245aa2@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Hervé Fache wrote: > > Maybe you could look at /var/log/messages when you plug in the pendrive? > Hint: in a console, type tail -f /var/log/messages, then plug in the > thingy Hi!! Well, just done what you did. I got this messages: --- Dec 22 00:04:48 localhost kernel: [4297202.272000] usb 1-5: new high speed USB d evice using ehci_hcd and address 4 Dec 22 00:04:48 localhost kernel: [4297202.694000] usb 1-5: new high speed USB d evice using ehci_hcd and address 5 Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297202.728000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_bitrate:4 51): getting bitrate failed (00010003) Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297202.728000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_range:140 2): getting bit rates failed: 00010003 Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297202.911000] usb 1-5: new high speed USB d evice using ehci_hcd and address 6 Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297203.027000] usb 1-5: new high speed USB d evice using ehci_hcd and address 7 Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297203.126000] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297203.126000] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for US B Mass Storage devices Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297203.127000] usbcore: registered new drive r usb-storage Dec 22 00:04:49 localhost kernel: [4297203.127000] USB Mass Storage support regi stered. Dec 22 00:04:50 localhost kernel: [4297203.778000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_bitrate:4 51): getting bitrate failed (00010003) Dec 22 00:04:50 localhost kernel: [4297203.778000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_range:140 2): getting bit rates failed: 00010003 Dec 22 00:04:51 localhost kernel: [4297204.735000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_bitrate:4 51): getting bitrate failed (00010003) Dec 22 00:04:51 localhost kernel: [4297204.735000] ndiswrapper (iw_get_range:140 2): getting bit rates failed: 00010003 --- I get this weird ndiswrapper message all the time, after I plug the pendrive! regards Carlos Barros Hervé. > > On 12/15/06, Carlos Barros wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm having a very strange problem with my usb wireless and my pendrive! > > The scenario is this: > > > > I have a USB Wireless adapter (D-Link) running with ndiswrapper driver. > > When I boot, it automaticaly connect to my router and I starting > > surfing the internet. Then, when I put my pendrive (sometimes the > > problem happens when I pull it out), my wireless adapter > > just hangs, and I get messages from ndiswrapper driver in the > > dmesg output (sorry, I cannot reproduce it here @ work). I have to > > remove and put again the wireless adapter to get it working > > again. Probably this is caused by hotplug (or something like this) > > probing for devices. > > Anyone experienced it?? Any workaround this?? > > > > regards > > > > Carlos Barros > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdavila at hampshire.edu Fri Dec 22 02:20:09 2006 From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:20:09 -0500 Subject: Firefox, Thunderbird, Suspend Resume issues. In-Reply-To: <458B2A09.20903@gmail.com> References: <458B2A09.20903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <458B40D9.7080306@hampshire.edu> Raghuram Vemuri wrote: > Hello, > I have the strangest thing happening on my Dell D800 laptop running Edgy. > After resuming from a suspended state I find that the Firefox and > Thunderbird windows that I had open are gone. The wireless interface > eth1 also goes down. Now this doesn't always happen. Every once in a > while everything will be fine after a suspend resume cycle. It does > seem though Firefox and Thunderbird crash only when the network > connection goes down. Maybe the two are related? I don't even know > where to begin to try and find a solution. > > Any pointers would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Raghu > The scripts that get executed when you suspend and resume are in directories /etc/acpi/suspend.d and /etc/acpi/resume.d. Any script you put inside those files will get executed at the appropriate time. Part of what should be done is bring the network down on suspend, and restart it on resume. I'm surprised that those directories don't have the stuff you need already, but it's a place to start looking. Maybe the commands are there, but are failing for some reason. -- ****************************************************** Jaime J. Davila Associate Professor of Computer Science Hampshire College School of Cognitive Science jdavila at hampshire dot edu http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila ******************************************************* From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Dec 22 03:00:35 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:00:35 -0500 Subject: Looking Glass In-Reply-To: <20061221101443.4c9b67b1@WizardsTower> References: <200612202052.50115.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <20061221101443.4c9b67b1@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <200612212200.35703.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Thursday 21 December 2006 11:14 am, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Paul Kaplan said: > > I saw that Project Looking Glass hit v1.0 this week. Has anyone used > > it? Comments? > > Paul > > I installed it last night. Everything went fine and quickly, the > desktop is beautiful, the 3D effects are astounding and pretty quick on > this old PIII 550 MHz. The menus are quite lacking and sometimes > typing didn't happen. I wasn't able to open Sylpheed-claws no matter > what I did but when shutting down a term from which I had attempted to > invoke Syllpheed-claws I /did/ see sylpheed's shutdown dialog. > All in all it was very impressive, especially on this old kit but it > has a way to go yet in regard to actually getting things done. > > Cybe R. Wizard Now that's what I call eye-candy! It'll be interesting to see some real world apps take advantage of this. Paul From anthonyscott at comcen.com.au Fri Dec 22 03:07:11 2006 From: anthonyscott at comcen.com.au (Anthony Scott) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:07:11 +1100 Subject: Flashplayer and YouTube. Message-ID: <1166756831.5033.7.camel@ningbojoe-desktop> I am using the Gnome Epiphany Browser 2.14.3 with on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have downloaded the appropriate plugin to play Shockwave/Flash libflashplayer 9.0 d55. While the Youtube dls initially play with sound, after a while, they freeze and I lose sound. If I try to make the dl play from the start again, it will play for a little while and then stop. At this stage there is no sound. Could anyone help me with this rather annoying problem. Regards, Tony. From haniganwork at earthlik.net Fri Dec 22 03:58:34 2006 From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:58:34 -0600 Subject: Plucker Message-ID: <1166759914.29400.3.camel@star> I added Plucker and the Plucker desktop using the add remove function on the menu. My problem is now that it is installed I have no idea how to find it or start it. I found the readme file in /usr/share/doc but the link to the user guide only brings up page not found. Does anyone know how to get started with this program. I know it somehow has to first install the program on the palm somehow. I do have J-pilot working so I can pilot-link is set up. Thanks Linda From timfrost at xtra.co.nz Fri Dec 22 07:00:58 2006 From: timfrost at xtra.co.nz (Tim Frost) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:00:58 +1300 Subject: w32codecs respositories In-Reply-To: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1166770858.1066.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 17:15 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: > Which repositories will connect to "sudo gedit /etc/sources.list" to > add w32codecs so that I can install? Every time I add a link, it's > down or no longer available. Frustrating! They are in Ubuntu repositories that are maintained by Dennis Kaarsemaker. One mirror is http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/, but there may be a closer mirror in the list at that URL. For edgy, apt-proxy shows (on a machine that has w32codecs installed) tim at marvin:~$ apt-cache policy w32codecs w32codecs: Installed: 1:20060611-0.0 Candidate: 1:20060611-0.0 Version table: *** 1:20060611-0.0 0 500 http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas/extras Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status I recommend that people look at this repository before considering automatix or other repositories. Tim From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Fri Dec 22 07:25:30 2006 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:25:30 +0200 Subject: configuring eclipse-pydev In-Reply-To: <1166660754.28365.2.camel@worldventures> References: <1166660754.28365.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <458B886A.4060508@dnainternet.net> Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > I'd like some help on configuring the pydev plugin for eclipse. For > example it is saying that I must give it a Python interpreter and a > Jython (never heard of that!) interpreter before I can even begin a new > project using it. What things do I have to do to begin development in > Eclipse? Hello Gabriel, I haven't used this yet, but I tried after seeing you got no responses to your question (or maybe I just missed them). You have to go to Window > Preferences > Pydev > Interpreter Jython and specify a path to jython.jar, on my system it's: /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev.jython_1.2.0/jython.jar ...and again Window > Preferences > Pydev > Interpreter Python and this time specify a path to python, you can get that with `which python`, on my system it's: jaska at ardbeg:~$ which python /usr/bin/python After these (actually, by mistake, after the first, Jython, setup) I could create a new project. Hope this gets you going. :) -- Jaska From karim at sarai.net Fri Dec 22 07:43:32 2006 From: karim at sarai.net (Aniruddha Shankar) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:13:32 +0530 (IST) Subject: w32codecs respositories In-Reply-To: <1166770858.1066.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1166770858.1066.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1214.203.101.19.158.1166773412.squirrel@mail.sarai.net> > On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 17:15 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote: >> Which repositories will connect to "sudo gedit /etc/sources.list" to >> add w32codecs so that I can install? Every time I add a link, it's >> down or no longer available. Frustrating! I asked a member of the PLF on irc about a good replacement for the excellent PLF Ubuntu repository (RIP and may you be resurrected) and he recommended Medibuntu, which contains (AFAICS) all the packages that PLF did. Medibuntu can be got by following the instructions at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/www/repository-old.html From severin.schoepke at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 08:46:29 2006 From: severin.schoepke at gmail.com (Severin Schoepke) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:46:29 +0100 Subject: Flash Apps On Linux In-Reply-To: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> References: <1166727305.6770.313.camel@wadesmart> Message-ID: <458B9B65.6040704@gmail.com> Hi Wade, Wade Smart schrieb: > [snip] > > Can we run flash apps on linux? I havent ever seen one but that doesnt > mean they arent out there At the Moment there's the Flash 7 plugin for Mozilla browsers available packaged for Ubuntu 32 Bit systems. On 32 Bit systems you can also use the beta version of the Flash 9 plugin (It's easy to install: google it (it's somewhere on the Adobe site), and copy the libflashplayer.so file in the downloaded archive into your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory). You can use both of these plugins also on 64 Bit systems, but this needs a bit of fiddling (installing a 32 Bit Firefox). You can find howto's for this solution in the Ubuntu forums... A last solution would be to use Gnash: Gnash is a free and open implementation of Flash. It contains a standalone player as well as Mozilla plugins and it runs on 32 as well as 64 Bit systems. However, it is not very mature yet and I don't know how good it works. If you want to give it a try, you have to google it, it must be on the gnu website... HTH, Severin From vladimir.lapacek at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 09:06:01 2006 From: vladimir.lapacek at gmail.com (=?utf-8?b?VmxhZGltw61y?= =?utf-8?b?TGFww6HEjWVr?=) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: configuring eclipse-pydev References: <1166660754.28365.2.camel@worldventures> <458B886A.4060508@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: > You have to go to Window > Preferences > Pydev > Interpreter Jython and > specify a path to jython.jar, on my system it's: This is correct. You need to go to Eclipse preferences like described above and set the appropriate interpreters. Without this the eclipse-pydev plugin does not know, which interpreter you want to use to run your scripts. > > /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev.jython_1.2.0/jython.jar > I just add that if you use the latest eclipse-pydev-1.2.5 package, the jython.jar file got removed from the above location, so you should use /usr/share/java/jython.jar or /usr/share/jython.jar. From janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net Fri Dec 22 09:31:04 2006 From: janne.jokitalo at dnainternet.net (Janne Jokitalo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:31:04 +0200 Subject: configuring eclipse-pydev In-Reply-To: References: <1166660754.28365.2.camel@worldventures> <458B886A.4060508@dnainternet.net> Message-ID: <458BA5D8.7040000@dnainternet.net> VladimírLapáček wrote: >> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev.jython_1.2.0/jython.jar > > I just add that if you use the latest eclipse-pydev-1.2.5 package, the > jython.jar file got removed from the above location, so you should use > /usr/share/java/jython.jar or /usr/share/jython.jar. Ahh... thanks Vladimir for contributing this. So it's wiser to use `locate jython.jar`, and then browse thru its listing and type the correct path if that's the case. Don't take my initial path for granted. -- Jaska From jhair.tocancipa at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 12:11:32 2006 From: jhair.tocancipa at gmail.com (Jhair Tocancipa Triana) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:11:32 +0100 Subject: Flashplayer and YouTube. References: <1166756831.5033.7.camel@ningbojoe-desktop> Message-ID: <87vek49ll7.fsf@mandala.my-fqdn.de> Anthony Scott writes: > I am using the Gnome Epiphany Browser 2.14.3 with on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I > have downloaded the appropriate plugin to play Shockwave/Flash > libflashplayer 9.0 d55. While the Youtube dls initially play with sound, > after a while, they freeze and I lose sound. If I try to make the dl > play from the start again, it will play for a little while and then > stop. At this stage there is no sound. I think I had exactly the same problem with earlier versions of the plugin. I use currently File name: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78 without any issues. -- -- Jhair From matt.price at utoronto.ca Fri Dec 22 13:06:27 2006 From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:27 -0500 Subject: dapper with dual core not recognize Intel 3945 card In-Reply-To: <224152.34864.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <224152.34864.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1166792787.4090.51.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2006-21-12 at 14:37 -0800, wei li wrote: > Hi, > > I can use my Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 card in dapper on a dual core > with i386 kernel. But, when I changed the kernel to i686, which > supports SMPs, dapper can not recognize the card anymore. > didy ou install linux-restricted-modules for the new kernel? ipw3945 is included in the ubuntu kernel, but the firmware and I think maybe also the daemon are in the l-r-m package. 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AFAIR apache needs to know which files to handle with which module. also are you sure that the section of that directory is ok and not overriding anything that should be configured? martin From michael at weblore.com Fri Dec 22 16:10:10 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:10:10 -0600 Subject: Apache chapter 3 In-Reply-To: <1276A715-3824-45E5-8A22-A85AEF532B95@openforce.com> References: <4589AC99.4070906@weblore.com> <4589BF91.7040409@weblore.com> <030C13D8-F406-48E9-A69F-08256F6F8D96@openforce.com> <458A9BE4.2010908@weblore.com> <2E5CAC50-0593-428E-8AF8-7009CA58BEF7@openforce.com> <458AA4C8.6020109@weblore.com> <9CF9D455-BDDA-4B50-8E2C-F3D680730194@openforce.com> <458AAE8B.8060200@weblore.com> <1276A715-3824-45E5-8A22-A85AEF532B95@openforce.com> Message-ID: <458C0362.2020706@weblore.com> Martin Marcher wrote: > Hello, > > Am 21.12.2006 um 16:55 schrieb Michael Satterwhite: > >> From mime.types >> application/x-httpd-php php phtml pht >> application/x-httpd-php-source phps >> application/x-httpd-php3 php3 >> application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3p >> application/x-httpd-php4 php4 >> >> From modules.conf >> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so > > Looks fine to me, > > do you have addhandler in the apache config? AFAIR apache needs to > know which files to handle with which module. None of the AddHandler items reference php. > also are you sure that the section of that directory is > ok and not overriding anything that should be configured? The directory involved is not associated with a entry, it's available as a symlink directly out of /var/www From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 16:44:49 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:44:49 +0100 Subject: no USB in Edgy In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612201146x20792fdj8fce4ecf783cd59c@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612201146x20792fdj8fce4ecf783cd59c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612220844u55762f9cmaf7082946cc29859@mail.gmail.com> Is there no-one that doesn't have any problems with usb on edgy? I do not have an unusual configuration. My mainboard is a msi RS480-IL (socket 939). Weird, because my Dapper is still working like a charm, but it is annoying to have to revert to it just for printing. Rutger On 12/20/06, Rutger van Haasteren wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a strange problem in Edgy. I still have a working dapper installed, > but my edgy install doesn't recognize my usb devices like a printer, > joystick or iPod. In dapper lsusb gives for example: > > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3011 Hewlett-Packard > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 044f:b304 ThrustMaster, Inc. Firestorm Dual Power > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > > > but in Edgy I only get: > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > > I have gotten my printer to work once in Edgy, but I haven't been able to > reproduce it. Hope someone knows what it could be... Cheers, > > Rutger > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Dec 22 17:45:28 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:45:28 -0500 Subject: breezy-dapper server upgrade Message-ID: <1166809529.29184.8.camel@localhost> Just did the dist-upgrade from Breezy to Dapper on our dev server... This is the only part that I don't understand how to fix... root at mgjventures:/# apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages have been kept back: libkrb5-17-heimdal 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y Setting up spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1) ... Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: process already running. invoke-rc.d: initscript spamassassin, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing spamassassin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: spamassassin localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 6380K E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root at mgjventures:/# dpkg --configure -a Setting up spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1) ... Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: process already running. invoke-rc.d: initscript spamassassin, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing spamassassin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: spamassassin Any input is appreciated. From frederific at googlemail.com Fri Dec 22 17:53:15 2006 From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:53:15 +0000 Subject: Mplayer stops playing after <1sec when streaming Message-ID: Hello, I've been trying to view the video news on bbc.co.uk, and other embedded video-streams elsewhere on the net. I have mplayer and mozilla-mplayer installed. When I try and view one of these streams, mplayer buffers it, and plays around half a second of the audio, sometimes accompanied by a few frames of the video, then returns to "Stopped". This doesn't seem to be limited to one type of stream; I get the same behaviour with ogg theora, windows media, real and quicktime streams. Why does it do this, and how can I fix it? If I download the file (only possible with some), it plays fine in the mplayer application. This is on Ubuntu 6.10 -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Dec 22 18:32:15 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:32:15 -0500 Subject: airsnort - redux Message-ID: <1166812336.29184.10.camel@localhost> gymsmoke at Nebo:~$ sudo airsnort /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=3 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=4 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=5 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported Does anyone have some input as to why I'm getting these messages ? (are they normal?) From david at adboyd.com Fri Dec 22 18:35:37 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:35:37 -0500 Subject: length of time for first update after installing 6.10 In-Reply-To: <20061221193405.4476de5c.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061221193405.4476de5c.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: >> How long should the first update take after installing 6.10? >> I installed last night, onto a 17G drive, with 256M of memory, and a broadband >> cable connection. >> The updater popped up, with a large amount of updates available. >> I started it running, and it seemed as if it was sitting on the first one for >> a very very long time. > > Should take only a few seconds. It it hangs, most likely there is a > network problem, maybe you are using a mirror that is faulty... I often > have problems with mirrors, so now I always connect to the main Ubuntu > servers in the UK. You can go to System->Administration->Software > Properties, to select the server, then try again to run the > update-manager. > I see yo have only 256MB of RAM though, that's not much run Gnome, so > maybe this is causing some weird kind of bug. > But try simple things first, and switch to the main Ubuntu server. > > > -- > Vince > Well, gnome seems to run pretty well off of the CD. Thanks for the info, I'll try picking a different server. Dave From david at adboyd.com Fri Dec 22 18:36:22 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:36:22 -0500 Subject: length of time for first update after installing 6.10 In-Reply-To: <49f8dc360612211026q4efd94f2t9e4eb85a98f29415@mail.gmail.com> References: <49f8dc360612211026q4efd94f2t9e4eb85a98f29415@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Juan Carlos Becerra Irene wrote: > I'm not sure on the time, but I have run the same procedure with a > dial-up connection, and after some minutes it had already downloaded at > least the first 10 updates. > > Regards, > Juan Carlos > > On 12/21/06, *J. David Boyd* > wrote: > > > How long should the first update take after installing 6.10? > > I installed last night, onto a 17G drive, with 256M of memory, and a > broadband > cable connection. > > The updater popped up, with a large amount of updates available. > > I started it running, and it seemed as if it was sitting on the > first one for > a very very long time. > > The drive light _was_ flashing, but it still _felt_ as if it were > hung up. > > Any ideas on ~ how long it should take to run? > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > Thanks, that's the info I was looking for. Mine ran for 15 minutes, and hadn't even really done anything with the first file... Dave From david at adboyd.com Fri Dec 22 18:55:38 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:55:38 -0500 Subject: install problem with alternate install CD Message-ID: Morning! I've been installing ubuntu 6.10, from the alternate install CD, on a computer at home. AMD chip, 256M of memory, standard parts, etc. The computer runs perfectly from the live CD. Everything works, and works well. I'd tried installing from the graphic installer, and got nowhere. I thought it might be a problem with the 30G hard drive that was installed, so I swapped it out for a 13G. Still didn't work. Got some advice to do a text mode install, (due to the small amount of memory in the box) using the alternate install CD, so I downloaded that. The first time I installed it, onto a 13G hard drive, it went fine. Installed fine, everything worked okay. So, I figured, why not go back to the 30G. Won't install... I've gone back and forth between the two drives now, making sure all the cards are seated properly, memory is cleaned and seated properly, CD checksum checks ok, and memory tests ok. The install starts okay, until it begins to install software. At the 6% mark, I can see it install all the X server items. Then, just about where I remember it asking me for which resolutions it should use (the time it worked), the status bar says "Please Wait...", and it sits there for ever. (I assume, I don't really have forever to wait for it, so I abort it and try again.) Any ideas on how I can make the X server start, or monitor what is happening so that I can fix whatever might be wrong? It worked so well the time the installer worked, I could kick myself for messing with it. TIA, Dave From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 19:01:02 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:01:02 +0200 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? Message-ID: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? I intend to use Java in Firefox for some university work (they are idiots, yes, I know, for writting in Java), and I don't know what else, just yet. I've two machines: a 1.3gHz AMD box with 1GB RAM and a 2.0gHz Intel laptop with 2GB RAM. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/157/416/queen/live_killers.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/java.html From dragffy at yandex.ru Fri Dec 22 19:30:11 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:30:11 +0000 Subject: breezy-dapper server upgrade In-Reply-To: <1166809529.29184.8.camel@localhost> References: <1166809529.29184.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166815811.7010.1.camel@worldventures> On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 12:45 -0500, John Dangler wrote: > Just did the dist-upgrade from Breezy to Dapper on our dev server... > This is the only part that I don't understand how to fix... > > root at mgjventures:/# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > The following packages have been kept back: > libkrb5-17-heimdal > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. > 1 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0B of archives. > After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y > Setting up spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1) ... > Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: process already running. > invoke-rc.d: initscript spamassassin, action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing spamassassin (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > Errors were encountered while processing: > spamassassin > localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 6380K > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > root at mgjventures:/# dpkg --configure -a > Setting up spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1) ... > Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: process already running. > invoke-rc.d: initscript spamassassin, action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing spamassassin (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > Errors were encountered while processing: > spamassassin > > Any input is appreciated. > > Erm, shooting in the dark, try running dist-upgrade again. Try killing spamassasin process and then trying it again. Try --configure -a after killing spamd also. From bernat.tallaferro at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 19:35:53 2006 From: bernat.tallaferro at gmail.com (Bernat Tallaferro) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:35:53 +0100 Subject: Winbind and logrotate error question Message-ID: <1d9d9b240612221135l214647cby748706fd477031c@mail.gmail.com> I've got winbind working on two computers, the hostnames of which are correctly resolved when I e.g. ping by host name. However, I've got a small annoyance with winbind. Every day I'm getting an e-mail from anacron on /var/mail telling me the following: [code] /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: kill: 2: No such process error: error running postrotate script for /var/log/samba/log.winbindd run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 [/code] Here's the winbind logrotate configuration in /etc/logrotate.d: [code] /var/log/samba/log.winbindd { weekly missingok rotate 7 postrotate [ -f /var/run/samba/winbindd.pid ] && kill -HUP `cat /var/run/samba/winbindd.pid` endscript compress notifempty } [/code] I believe I'm getting the error when *kill -HUP `cat /var/run/samba/winbindd.pid`*is being executed, since there is no such a process ID. What makes me think this (and what really confuses me), is that when I do a 'ps -ef winbindd', I get no such process listed, although winbindd must be somehow running if hostname resolution is working. Any comments will be greatly appreciated, I'm really lost right now. 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Now, in grub you can do this: grub> root (hd0,0) If you are not sure which partition actually holds the boot directory, use the command find, like this: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 This will search for the file name /boot/grub/stage1 and show the devices which contain the file. Once you've set the root device correctly, run the command setup: grub> setup (hd0) Succes! Rutger thank you 4 that reply. i went according to ur reply and was able to reinstate the boot menu, then i selected the ubuntu option from the menu, thats when things went wrong- a new screen saying "cant mount the patition................." comes up.actually i set hd0,7 as my root, but in the screen where the error message came it is written root(hd0,9). i had confirmed that the partition with the boot file was hd0,7. can u tell what exactly is the problem. Thanks. From invenit at yahoo.com Fri Dec 22 19:59:10 2006 From: invenit at yahoo.com (Tony Brezovski) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Rootkit Hunter Message-ID: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> Browsing through an intro linux book, I saw some mention of this security software. Easily installed via apt-get and seems to work OK. Anybody familiar with rkhunter? Wikipedia has a brief mention at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rkhunter Tony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From evega at amnet.co.cr Fri Dec 22 20:05:12 2006 From: evega at amnet.co.cr (Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:05:12 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu Server Vmware password Message-ID: <041c01c72604$8272ba30$87582e90$@co.cr> Hello guys.. I just download the Server VMWare version from http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ but. I did not find any place the readme or any other Doc to see usernames/passwords any clue? Thanks //ed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torsten at canonical.com Fri Dec 22 20:15:11 2006 From: torsten at canonical.com (Torsten Spindler) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:15:11 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Server Vmware password In-Reply-To: <041c01c72604$8272ba30$87582e90$@co.cr> References: <041c01c72604$8272ba30$87582e90$@co.cr> Message-ID: <1166818511.5449.4.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-22-12 at 14:05 -0600, Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas wrote: > http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ but… I did not find any place the > readme or any other Doc to see usernames/passwords Try ubuntu:ubuntu. Kind regards, Torsten -- Torsten Spindler Canonical Support & Services Freenode: TeTeT GPG: 1024D/C1573316 0E29 D4DF 160A C533 ADC8 312A F84D 0B8C C157 3316 From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 22 20:32:59 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:32:59 +0100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> Hello, Am 22.12.2006 um 20:59 schrieb Tony Brezovski: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rkhunter also look for 'chkrootkit' another one that is quite commonly used... From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 20:49:07 2006 From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:49:07 -0500 Subject: Emacs-snapshot Right Alt key In-Reply-To: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com> References: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com> Message-ID: <351278b80612221249h69dca1c5qcbfdd2338801f8dd@mail.gmail.com> On 12/21/06, Scot Johnson wrote: > My right alt key is not responsive in emacs-snapshot (emacs > 22.0.50.1). I'm using edgy on a Gateway 4530GZ laptop. I didn't have > any problems w/ this in Dapper using (I think) the same emacs-snapshot > version. > > Anybody know of a fix? Thanks in advance for any help. I've also noticed this in Firefox, where right-alt + left-arrow doesn't go back. I've not yet bothered to find a fix for that, but you might check to see if it's the same problem that I have, where the right Alt key is showing up as a "ISO Level 3 Shift" key, rather than "Alt_R". From a terminal, run "xev", then press and release the right alt key once. I get the following output from that, which shows that the key name is "ISO_Level3_Shift": KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001, root 0x52, subw 0x0, time 2882806124, (380,-80), root:(492,428), state 0x10, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001, root 0x52, subw 0x0, time 2882806196, (380,-80), root:(492,428), state 0x90, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False I have two similar systems running edgy, one a fresh install and the other an upgrade from dapper. I wasn't sure if it was a hardware difference (the newer one, a Thinkpad T60p, shows this problem, the older one, a Thinkpad T40, does not), or a small configuration difference between a clean install and an upgrade. I'll try to compare the two in the next day or so to see if there is an easy fix. From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Fri Dec 22 21:10:53 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:10:53 +0100 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:25 +0530, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > i was running kubuntu 6.06 and winxp on my system. i had some problems > with my windows so i formatted the drive and reinstalled windows. now > i cant see the boot menu(grub) and the windows automatically boots. is > my linux installation completely gone or just the booting is taken > control by windows?? if so how can i return to grub boot loader?? You'll keep getting lots of people telling you how to avoid and fix this problem using GRUB. Those solutions work but they're hard to learn and in my opinion messy. Here's my view: GRUB should not be used as a boot manager. It is more a kernel manager and should be allowed to manage the startup of only one installation. I always install GRUB to the same partitions as root (/). GAG is a boot manager which sticks to it's job. It installs in MBR and you just point it to any bootable partition - then GRUB or whatever can take it from there. Why do it this way? If you (re)install anything which spoils you MBR you just reinstall GAG and point it to the bootable partitions your using. If you have GRUB installed to MBR you have to configure it to boot to the correct kernel and it uses a tricky syntax which makes it hard to edit for mere semi-nerds. An even more compelling example is the case I hit too many times. 1. Install Windows (writes to MBR) 2. Install Ubuntu (overwrites MBR) 3. Install another Linux (overwrites MBR again) Now, if there is an update to the Ubuntu Kernel, Ubuntu will edit its own grub files to point to the new Kernel. But that file is not being used anymore - another Linux installation has taken over. Now let's say you want to fix this problem, so you make GRUB from Ubuntu write to MBR, now the other linux installation has the same problem!! Using GAG each installation has it's own GRUB files, they don't touch each other. When you start you use GAG to say which GRUB (or Lilo or Windows) configuration should be used. One task, one app. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Fri Dec 22 21:13:16 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:13:16 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 21:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? If they both work you shouldn't notice any difference. It would of course be GNU politically better to use the GNU version until Sun is finished making Java open source. I don't think they're finished with that process yet. Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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One of the computers in my room has two NICs (call it MrT), so, is it possible for one NICs to be connected to the wireless router, while the other one is connected to an ethernet switch in my room, where many other computers can also plugin in and somehow access the internet via MrT and also the computer connected directly to the linksys....? I'm sure it would involve some firewall forwarding rules and I can use firehol for that. But is simple forwarding enough? If the computers on the linksys use 192.168.1.0 can the computers with MrT also use this subnet? I'm thinking not, but not sure why, as you can see I'm a bit confused :) Been a long day. Help is much appreciated. Kind regards, Gabe From ben at cvrse.com Fri Dec 22 21:38:49 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:38:49 +1100 Subject: wireless network + wired network = ? In-Reply-To: <1166819866.7010.10.camel@worldventures> References: <1166819866.7010.10.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <20061222213849.GA5256@rip.cvrse.com> * Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Got a problem that I'm not quite sure how to solve. First a brief bit of > background information... > > Have wireless network provided by a linksys router, it covers our house. > Thing is the signal is not good enough in my room and moving the router > isn't an option. So I have run a 30m cable that plugs into the wireless > router and run it to my room. > > I'm a sociable kind of chap so often have need to have more than one > computer connected in my room at a time, but there is only one cable. > > One of the computers in my room has two NICs (call it MrT), so, is it > possible for one NICs to be connected to the wireless router, while the > other one is connected to an ethernet switch in my room, where many > other computers can also plugin in and somehow access the internet via > MrT and also the computer connected directly to the linksys....? > > I'm sure it would involve some firewall forwarding rules and I can use > firehol for that. But is simple forwarding enough? > > If the computers on the linksys use 192.168.1.0 can the computers with > MrT also use this subnet? I'm thinking not, but not sure why, as you can > see I'm a bit confused :) Been a long day. Help is much appreciated. Gabriel, you can get it to work that way but i wouldnt bother, just run your eth cable from wireless router -> switch in your room (you'll probably need a crossover cable if your switch doesnt have a X over port or MDI/MDIX) and then everyone in your room plugs straight into the switch. thats similar to the setup i use here, only problem is if you dont have enough switch ports. -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From david at adboyd.com Fri Dec 22 21:40:31 2006 From: david at adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:40:31 -0500 Subject: install problem with alternate install CD In-Reply-To: <1166822096.6140.16.camel@localhost> References: <1166822096.6140.16.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 13:55 -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: >> The first time I installed it, onto a 13G hard drive, it went fine. >> Installed fine, everything worked okay. >> >> So, I figured, why not go back to the 30G. > Have you done a memory test? Maybe something is wron with the 30G drive? > > Duncan > > As I said before: Won't install... I've gone back and forth between the two drives now, making sure all the cards are seated properly, memory is cleaned and seated properly, CD checksum checks ok, and memory tests ok. Thanks, Dave From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 21:43:53 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:43:53 +0200 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00612221343n7a993111o96b59eb6d8b04e3e@mail.gmail.com> On 22/12/06, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > If they both work you shouldn't notice any difference. It would of > course be GNU politically better to use the GNU version until Sun is > finished making Java open source. I don't think they're finished with > that process yet. Thanks. I've actually got the Sun Java installed, but I can't get it to work with Firefox. The Kubuntu wiki is outdated, it only refers to Kubuntu 5.10 and 6.06. How does one get Firefox to use the Sun Java in Kubuntu 6.10? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/157/416/queen/live_killers.php http://essentialinux.com/linux-software.php From stanb at panix.com Fri Dec 22 21:46:04 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:46:04 -0500 Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-) Message-ID: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com> I'm putting Kubuntu 6.10 on several machines over the weekend. Thes machines will replace existing older Debian based workstations. I have run in to an issue with my existing CD recorder scripts, that I think I need to have IDE SCSI emulation avaialble to resolve. Historically I have sometimes built custom jernels. But looking at all the fixes I see coming from the Ubuntu repositories, I'm a little reluctant to do this. What's the Ubuntu way to do this? Is building custom kernels not the prefered way? If I do build one, which should I build? Looking on kernel,org, I see 2.6.19.1, but I also see that 2.6.18.6 has a newer datestamp. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From jdangler at atlantic.net Fri Dec 22 21:45:37 2006 From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:45:37 -0500 Subject: broke package Message-ID: <1166823937.29184.14.camel@localhost> After upgrading from breezy to dapper on our production server, everything seems to be running except spamassassin. However, on trying to remove it, I get this - root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassassin E: Invalid operation spamassassin if I try and fix the package, I get this - root at mgjventures:/# dpkg --configure -a Setting up spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1) ... Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: process already running. invoke-rc.d: initscript spamassassin, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing spamassassin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: spamassassin Any ideas as to how to fix this ??? Any input is greatly appreciated. From scotjohnson at mac.com Fri Dec 22 22:24:59 2006 From: scotjohnson at mac.com (Scot Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:24:59 -0600 Subject: Emacs-snapshot Right Alt key In-Reply-To: <351278b80612221249h69dca1c5qcbfdd2338801f8dd@mail.gmail.com> (Stephen Ryan's message of "Fri\, 22 Dec 2006 15\:49\:07 -0500") References: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com> <351278b80612221249h69dca1c5qcbfdd2338801f8dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87k60jzhz8.fsf@mac.com> Stephen Ryan writes: > I've also noticed this in Firefox, where right-alt + left-arrow > doesn't go back. I've not yet bothered to find a fix for that, but > you might check to see if it's the same problem that I have, where the > right Alt key is showing up as a "ISO Level 3 Shift" key, rather than > "Alt_R". From a terminal, run "xev", then press and release the right > alt key once. > > I get the following output from that, which shows that the key name is > "ISO_Level3_Shift": Running xev, it looks like I get the same thing: KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001, root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2889541911, (696,268), root:(703,343), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001, root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2889541998, (696,268), root:(703,343), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False > I have two similar systems running edgy, one a fresh install and the > other an upgrade from dapper. I wasn't sure if it was a hardware > difference (the newer one, a Thinkpad T60p, shows this problem, the > older one, a Thinkpad T40, does not), or a small configuration > difference between a clean install and an upgrade. I'll try to > compare the two in the next day or so to see if there is an easy fix. Great! I don't think I'm skilled enough to come up w/ a fix. Well, maybe after quite a bit of skull sweat I could. :) Sure hope someone can find something because it's really inconvenient not to have the Right Alt key in emacs. Btw that xev is pretty cool. I didn't even know that such a utility existed. Thanks very much for your reply! -- Scot From drberg1000 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 22:30:45 2006 From: drberg1000 at gmail.com (David Berg) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:30:45 -0600 Subject: Bad Ide Controllers? Message-ID: I have a system where the cd/dvd drive (which resided on the second controller) started giving me troubles. Eventually it appeared to have died. I purchased a new one and within a few weeks neither of the drives on the second controller were recognized at boot. So, i cut back to two disks (hdd and cdrom) and put both of them on the first controller. I'm again having trouble with the cdrom drive. When i try to play any encrypted dvd (I don't have any unencrypted) it hangs partway through the movie. The error messages I'm able to find are pasted below. I'm wondering if its only a matter of time before the first controller flakes out as well -- if it isn't already going. If I add a pci ide controller am I just buying time or is it likely to fix the problem? This home built system has really given me nothing but troubles. I've had to replace the CPU twice, the Power supply once, one cdrom drive and now ide controller(s?). Should I just strip it for parts? Thanks much. --Dave From drberg1000 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 22:37:33 2006 From: drberg1000 at gmail.com (David Berg) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:37:33 -0600 Subject: Bad Ide Controllers? Message-ID: I forgot the errors. See below. David Berg wrote: > I have a system where the cd/dvd drive (which resided on the second > controller) started giving me troubles. Eventually it appeared to have > died. I purchased a new one and within a few weeks neither of the > drives on the second controller were recognized at boot. > > So, i cut back to two disks (hdd and cdrom) and put both of them on the > first controller. I'm again having trouble with the cdrom drive. When > i try to play any encrypted dvd (I don't have any unencrypted) it hangs > partway through the movie. The error messages I'm able to find are > pasted below. > > I'm wondering if its only a matter of time before the first controller > flakes out as well -- if it isn't already going. If I add a pci ide > controller am I just buying time or is it likely to fix the problem? > > This home built system has really given me nothing but troubles. I've > had to replace the CPU twice, the Power supply once, one cdrom drive and > now ide controller(s?). Should I just strip it for parts? > > Thanks much. > > --Dave > These are from syslog: Dec 22 15:55:31 sue-desktop -- MARK -- Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] hdb: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] hdb: media error (bad sector): error=0x34 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x03 } Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] ide: failed opcode was: unknown Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 6473640 Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block 1618410 ---------------------------------------------------------- The xine log viewer (messages tab) is filled with errors similar to these: audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type: ????0000 video_out: throwing away image with pts ??????? because it's too old (diff : ?????). Anything else I should add that might be useful? From martin.marcher at openforce.com Fri Dec 22 22:45:52 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:45:52 +0100 Subject: Bad Ide Controllers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A07305E-134D-4DFD-9AA9-33FC512D018A@openforce.com> Am 22.12.2006 um 23:37 schrieb David Berg: > These are from syslog: > > Dec 22 15:55:31 sue-desktop -- MARK -- > Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] hdb: media error > (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] hdb: media error > (bad sector): error=0x34 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x03 } > Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] ide: failed > opcode > was: unknown > Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] end_request: I/O > error, dev hdb, sector 6473640 > Dec 22 16:07:32 sue-desktop kernel: [17181615.012000] Buffer I/O error > on device hdb, logical block 1618410 The only things where I have seen those errors is on dying Hard Disks or bad media. Are you sure it's your drives causing the trouble andn not the media that's bad? * what about data dvds are they fine? * can you burn (or get) a data dvd that is proven to work fine on another box, if so try that and see if it reports the same errors hth martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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AFAIR apache needs to >> know which files to handle with which module. > > None of the AddHandler items reference php. Finally found an old apache1.3 config :) (note this is mac so you may need to change the paths) # AddType application/x-httpd-php .php # LoadModule php4_module libexec/httpd/libphp4.so # AddModule mod_php4.c hope that finally helps. If I may ask why are you still using apache1.3? imho there are more bugs in 1.3 than in 2 and a lot of howtos do actually reference apache2 even they just say apache+(whatever) hth martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I also need to find out how to get this information in Windows because I am wondering if I have the same amount of RAM on my Desktop which is again might be again why I am unable to run Ubuntu as the Live CD with accessibility before I decide to install Edgy permanently and maybe it is causing the same problem with Feisty because on my desktop I seemed to get a beep where I believe it might be asking for boot options but when I try F5 and 3, it boots into Ubuntu Live without Orca which causes me to have to run Orca manually, set the options, logout and try and log back in again only Feisty appears to crash at that point or just gets stuck after the the sound of the drums so it won't accept me running anything as I tried running Orca from that point because it didn't appear to be login in and starting that music for me to be able to do the alt F2 Orca which was how I got it to speak the setup. From pitragoras at yahoo.es Sat Dec 23 00:54:58 2006 From: pitragoras at yahoo.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel_Mart=EDnez_Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:54:58 +0100 Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD Message-ID: <458C7E62.1040107@yahoo.es> Hi all, This is the first time I take part in this list (I've just joined it, indeed). I'm a newbie in Linux so I get lost just install it. I have a Toshiba laptop and recently bought an external 80GB HD. I downloaded a live cd of the 6.10 ubuntu distribution and I've installed it already (I created a NTFS partition, a ext3 and a swarp one. I've used the visual installation assistant. It seems to work fine BUT I've discovered that I need to have my external HD plugged any time I switch on my computer since otherwise GRUB says an error has happened and so on without giving me a chance to choose OS. Whereas if the external HD is plugged works fine (as I said). What I would like to do is to start my computer and have GURB working properly (or no GURB at all) when the external HD isn't plugged to the laptop, but when it is it should work. Any idea? Please, I don't know much about linux so an explanation for dummies would be really wonderful. Thank you very much! Pitragoras ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Dec 23 00:34:19 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:34:19 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> <880dece00612221343n7a993111o96b59eb6d8b04e3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Dotan Cohen" writes: > Thanks. I've actually got the Sun Java installed, but I can't get it > to work with Firefox. The Kubuntu wiki is outdated, it only refers to > Kubuntu 5.10 and 6.06. How does one get Firefox to use the Sun Java in > Kubuntu 6.10? Did you get in from the Sun website or the repositories? If you enable multiverse, you can do aptitude install sun-java5-plugin and everything will be set up for you. If you downloaded a .bin package from Sun (I would do the jre package unless you are doing development), copy this package somewhere (like /opt). Type sudo sh .bin It will be unpacked there (I think called something). cd into the plugin directory (something like jre/lib/plugin/ns710 or something). Make a symlink from the plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins But honestly, just use the one in the repository. Much easier. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 01:39:23 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 03:39:23 +0200 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> <880dece00612221343n7a993111o96b59eb6d8b04e3e@mail.gmail.com> <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <880dece00612221739r34c26f8lcbbf09340a4d25b7@mail.gmail.com> On 23/12/06, John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Dotan Cohen" writes: > > > Thanks. I've actually got the Sun Java installed, but I can't get it > > to work with Firefox. The Kubuntu wiki is outdated, it only refers to > > Kubuntu 5.10 and 6.06. How does one get Firefox to use the Sun Java in > > Kubuntu 6.10? > > Did you get in from the Sun website or the repositories? > If you enable multiverse, you can do > aptitude install sun-java5-plugin Thank you. Java was installed from the [k]ubuntu repos, and the package that you mention helped. It now work. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_router.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/javascript.html From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sat Dec 23 01:49:45 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:49:45 +0100 Subject: using the free command In-Reply-To: <458C748B.4050300@btinternet.com> References: <458C748B.4050300@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20061223024945.00054694.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > Does using the free command from a terminal in Ubuntu show the amount of > total RAM you have? Just tried it... yes it does :-) > I also need to find out how to get this information in Windows You didn't say which version of Windows you have, but on my old copy of Windows XP, I have an icon on the desktop tha tsyas "System" (it looks like computer). If you right-click on it, and select "Properties" (last item in the menu), it gives you a few basic details about the machine: Version of Windows CPU model CPU speed amount of RAM because I > am wondering if I have the same amount of RAM on my Desktop which is > again might be again why I am unable to run Ubuntu as the Live CD with > accessibility Hmmm yes, I would assume you would need 512MB of RAM for it to all work smoothly. 256MB would be a little low, from my experience, even for basic stuff (web browsing, Office work ) -- Vince From mehul.forums at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 02:08:01 2006 From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 07:38:01 +0530 Subject: Ubuntu Server Vmware password In-Reply-To: <1166818511.5449.4.camel@localhost> References: <041c01c72604$8272ba30$87582e90$@co.cr> <1166818511.5449.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612221808m6a27199du43a6cf832faed12e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/23/06, Torsten Spindler wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-22-12 at 14:05 -0600, Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas wrote: > > http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ but… I did not find any place the > > readme or any other Doc to see usernames/passwords > > Try ubuntu:ubuntu. > Or maybe you can download from from http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/cat/45. They have given the username and password here. But Torsten's advice should work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Back to User List Hi php, sorry, ubuntu: > i know this is not right place to ask, but i am running LAMP on an > ubuntu 6.01 > so i have some code here in php gives me problem: > > Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end > in /srv/www/htdocs/php/store/userdelGO.php on line 68 > > well > from experience i know it must be =<<< caused the problem > since if i comment out those 2 =<<< in my if statements it wont have > any problem > > then i try to fix that =<<< problem > but no matter what i do it just.....u know....same error > > here is my stupid code > open.php is the file i use to open the mysql connection > > please help > > thanks > > > $id=$_REQUEST['id']; > $del=$_REQUEST['del']; > echo $id; > include "open.php"; > > $query="select user_name, fname, lname from user where id=$id"; > > $run=mysql_query($query) or die (mysql_error()); > > $row = mysql_fetch_array($run,MYSQL_ASSOC); > > $uname=$row['user_name']; > $fname=$row['fname']; > $lname=$row['lname']; > > > > > if ($del == "Yes") { > //echo "yes"; > //mysql_query(delete from user where id=$id); > > $yes=<< > Confirmation > >

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> Back to User List > > > EOD; > echo $no; > */ > } > > mysql_close(); > > ?> From stanb at panix.com Sat Dec 23 02:33:58 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:33:58 -0500 Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-) In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com> <3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061223023358.GA12970@teddy.fas.com> On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:19:28PM -0500, Qiuli Han wrote: > Hi > Are you sure that is the kernel problem not the script's problem? Looks like cdrdao still needs IDE-SCSI, which aparantly cdrecord doees not. I have scripts using both. I suspect that the cdrdao ones could be converted to use cdrecord. That's really a part of the questions. Which would be a better use of the effort. Trying to convert the scripts, or compiling a custom kernel. Looks like Ubuntu releases new kernel packages fairly often. > > if you sure it is the kernel's problem, well...pick the last stable release > then Once upon a time thee was a stable branch, and a development branch. Looks like it's all in the 2.6 tree these days. Do the 3rd level numbers (2.6.19 vs 2.6.18) mean that now? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com Sat Dec 23 02:46:40 2006 From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (wim delvaux) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 03:46:40 +0100 Subject: ez-ipupdate: cannot create pid file Message-ID: <20061223024640.7154.82199.reportbug@localhost.localdomain> Package: ez-ipupdate Version: 3.0.11b8-10ubuntu1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable when I run ez-ipupdate from init.d I get the message that it cannot create the pid file in could not create pid file /var/run/ez-ipupdate/default.pid (Bad file descriptor), exiting The ez-ipupdate directory does not exist -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers edgy-updates APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages ez-ipupdate depends on: ii adduser 3.92 Add and remove users and groups ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.2ubuntu2 Debian configuration management sy ii libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ez-ipupdate recommends no packages. -- debconf information: ez-ipupdate/server: ez-ipupdate/dns_wildcard: false * ez-ipupdate/hostname: wimpies.dyndns.org ez-ipupdate/dns_mx: * ez-ipupdate/interface: eth0 * ez-ipupdate/ppp: false * ez-ipupdate/service_type: dyndns * ez-ipupdate/username: u19809 From ivyharry at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 02:53:55 2006 From: ivyharry at gmail.com (Qiuli Han) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:53:55 -0500 Subject: php guru help please In-Reply-To: <1166841090.6389.3.camel@localhost> References: <3f0436250612221813i157e1bffs387d3d0662a356ea@mail.gmail.com> <1166841090.6389.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <3f0436250612221853k46b5e47fn566ebc6525fcce2d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks John Actually I just did what u said before I get your reply the reason why did that was because i thought it is easier to debug and on the other hand i used to work with Perl which i used print qq~ everywhere to print about a website so i assumed that it will work the same way as =<<< I guess i cant really do it in php then Thanks! Qiuli On 12/22/06, John Dangler wrote: > > It appears as if those marks indicate a transaction block of some sort, > although I can't find any reference to it anywhere on php.net > And, never having seen them used in php before, I would say that the > error is truly a "syntax error" ... > > but why not something like this - > if ($del == "Yes") > { > ?> >

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User $fname $lname with user name $uname has been > > deleted

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> > Back to User List > > > > > > EOD; > > echo $no; > > */ > > } > > > > mysql_close(); > > > > ?> > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ivyharry at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 03:03:25 2006 From: ivyharry at gmail.com (Qiuli Han) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:03:25 -0500 Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-) In-Reply-To: <20061223023358.GA12970@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com> <3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com> <20061223023358.GA12970@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <3f0436250612221903p2cd4f396t59f0754f15040296@mail.gmail.com> Hi I would say rewrite the script is a better choice since compile a new kernel and make it work will cause many problems a) new kernel will bring new hardware and maybe software problem when it is solving some old problem since it is not the "official kernel" with the release b) it takes lots of times to put the new kernel into all the machine u mentioned c) you will face many problems/issues beside kernel d) if you rewrite the script, you face less objects than the kernel option Qiuli On 12/22/06, stan wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:19:28PM -0500, Qiuli Han wrote: > > Hi > > Are you sure that is the kernel problem not the script's problem? > > Looks like cdrdao still needs IDE-SCSI, which aparantly cdrecord doees > not. > I have scripts using both. I suspect that the cdrdao ones could be > converted > to use cdrecord. > > That's really a part of the questions. Which would be a better use > of the effort. Trying to convert the scripts, or compiling > a custom kernel. Looks like Ubuntu releases new kernel packages > fairly often. > > > > > if you sure it is the kernel's problem, well...pick the last stable > release > > then > > Once upon a time thee was a stable branch, and a development branch. > Looks like it's all in the 2.6 tree these days. Do the 3rd level > numbers (2.6.19 vs 2.6.18) mean that now? > > > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ivyharry at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 03:16:55 2006 From: ivyharry at gmail.com (Qiuli Han) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:16:55 -0500 Subject: php guru help please In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612221853k46b5e47fn566ebc6525fcce2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f0436250612221813i157e1bffs387d3d0662a356ea@mail.gmail.com> <1166841090.6389.3.camel@localhost> <3f0436250612221853k46b5e47fn566ebc6525fcce2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3f0436250612221916g7372009aq7876e0deb92709b@mail.gmail.com> I think i know where the problem is now! there should not have any space BEFORE "QEW;" >_< i just want it looks better Qiuli On 12/22/06, Qiuli Han wrote: > > Thanks John > Actually I just did what u said before I get your reply > the reason why did that was because i thought it is easier to debug > and on the other hand i used to work with Perl which i used print qq~ > everywhere to print about a website > so i assumed that it will work the same way as =<<< > > I guess i cant really do it in php then > Thanks! > > Qiuli > > On 12/22/06, John Dangler wrote: > > > > It appears as if those marks indicate a transaction block of some sort, > > although I can't find any reference to it anywhere on php.net > > And, never having seen them used in php before, I would say that the > > error is truly a "syntax error" ... > > > > but why not something like this - > > if ($del == "Yes") > > { > > ?> > >

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> > Back to User List > > > echo $yes; > > } > > > > On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 21:13 -0500, Qiuli Han wrote: > > > Hi php, sorry, ubuntu: > > > i know this is not right place to ask, but i am running LAMP on an > > > ubuntu 6.01 > > > so i have some code here in php gives me problem: > > > > > > Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end > > > in /srv/www/htdocs/php/store/userdelGO.php on line 68 > > > > > > well > > > from experience i know it must be =<<< caused the problem > > > since if i comment out those 2 =<<< in my if statements it wont have > > > any problem > > > > > > then i try to fix that =<<< problem > > > but no matter what i do it just.....u know....same error > > > > > > here is my stupid code > > > open.php is the file i use to open the mysql connection > > > > > > please help > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > $id=$_REQUEST['id']; > > > $del=$_REQUEST['del']; > > > echo $id; > > > include "open.php"; > > > > > > $query="select user_name, fname, lname from user where id=$id"; > > > > > > $run=mysql_query($query) or die (mysql_error()); > > > > > > $row = mysql_fetch_array($run,MYSQL_ASSOC); > > > > > > $uname=$row['user_name']; > > > $fname=$row['fname']; > > > $lname=$row['lname']; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if ($del == "Yes") { > > > //echo "yes"; > > > //mysql_query(delete from user where id=$id); > > > > > > $yes=<< > > > > > Confirmation > > > > > >

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URL: From mehul.forums at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 03:20:18 2006 From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:50:18 +0530 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/23/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Hello, > > Am 22.12.2006 um 20:59 schrieb Tony Brezovski: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rkhunter > > also look for 'chkrootkit' another one that is quite commonly used... > But how good are they in detecting rootkits? While going through a thread on gentoo forums(sorry don't have that url now), I read that it's quite possible to hijack important processes and also 'contaminate' these rootkit checkers. So, it's better to use them from a live system than from the system that could be compromised? Also, can these apps detect all rootkits? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Sat Dec 23 03:27:40 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:27:40 -0500 Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-) In-Reply-To: <3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com> <3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061223032739.GA12036@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ide-scsi emulation is no longer needed for CD burning in 2.6 kernels. Cdrecord should be run with dev=/dev/hdc or whatever the name of your writer is. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjKIrG9IpekrhBfIRAvB1AKCqWObVNGQEtqUd6+QS1tfUQtQIEwCeLKyy Gndt1uXIOkTusHFW/sAGNoI= =guCv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From anthonyscott at comcen.com.au Sat Dec 23 04:08:30 2006 From: anthonyscott at comcen.com.au (Anthony Scott) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:08:30 +1100 Subject: Flashplayer and YouTube. In-Reply-To: <87vek49ll7.fsf@mandala.my-fqdn.de> References: <1166756831.5033.7.camel@ningbojoe-desktop> <87vek49ll7.fsf@mandala.my-fqdn.de> Message-ID: <1166846910.5250.0.camel@ningbojoe-desktop> On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 13:11 +0100, Jhair Tocancipa Triana wrote: > Anthony Scott writes: > > > I am using the Gnome Epiphany Browser 2.14.3 with on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I > > have downloaded the appropriate plugin to play Shockwave/Flash > > libflashplayer 9.0 d55. While the Youtube dls initially play with sound, > > after a while, they freeze and I lose sound. If I try to make the dl > > play from the start again, it will play for a little while and then > > stop. At this stage there is no sound. > > I think I had exactly the same problem with earlier versions of the > plugin. > > I use currently > > File name: libflashplayer.so > Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78 > > without any issues. > > -- > -- Jhair > Thanx for that, I will give it a try. Regards, Tony. From Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au Sat Dec 23 04:32:35 2006 From: Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:32:35 +0900 Subject: libdvdcss2 installed, but encrypted DVDs no longer play Message-ID: <458CB163.20007@Malcolm.id.au> My DVD drive has stopped playing region encrypted DVDs - doesn't matter what player (MythTV, mplayer, xine...). However, libdvdcss2 has always been installed (originally the PLF one, but I'm currently trying 1.2.9-2medibuntu1) and I'm not aware that anything else has changed since it was working. I'm almost thinking it's a sudden hardware problem, but is that even possible? It plays non-encrypted content fine. Does anyone have any ideas? How would I troubleshoot this further? Thanks. -- Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Sat Dec 23 06:27:52 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 07:27:52 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> <880dece00612221343n7a993111o96b59eb6d8b04e3e@mail.gmail.com> <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <1166855272.6514.1.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 01:34 +0100, John L Fjellstad wrote: > and everything will be set up for you. > If you downloaded a .bin package from Sun Why do that? It's in the 'commercial' repository isn't it? Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Dapper there used to be a very few apps, but in Edgy, there is nothing at all as far as I can see :-( -- Vince From daniel.haensse at freesurf.ch Sat Dec 23 07:29:44 2006 From: daniel.haensse at freesurf.ch (Daniel Haensse) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:29:44 +0100 Subject: XEN on AMD64 (Dual core) Message-ID: <458CDAE8.7030207@freesurf.ch> Dear list, I would like to setup Ubuntu 6.10 server (or any other distro if necessary) with 2-3 guest domains. Is anybody running this in a productive environment and is considering it stable. best regards Dani From ben at cvrse.com Sat Dec 23 07:53:08 2006 From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:53:08 +1100 Subject: broke package In-Reply-To: <1166823937.29184.14.camel@localhost> References: <1166823937.29184.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061223075308.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com> * John Dangler wrote: > After upgrading from breezy to dapper on our production server, > everything seems to be running except spamassassin. > However, on trying to remove it, I get this - > > root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassassin > E: Invalid operation spamassassin you forgot the 'remove' command # apt-get --purge remove spamassassin -- ben darby -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Personally I use a combination of chkrootkit, rkhunter, logcheck, logwatch, also rkhunter has the ability to md5sum binaries (but I don't do that since I expect that if someone is in my box he'll just update those) Watching you logfiles closely and filtering out data that you know is good (do not try to only get informed about what you know is bad) - this is why i use logcheck and not mainly logwatch, logwatch is only there to inform me about a few cron scripts where I am up to this date to lazy to figure out a regex for logcheck - and examine this data regularly. I get my reports houlry which is usually a mail of about 1k from different boxes. This is for Windows an Unix: a) Script Kiddies aren't a thread if you use Brain V1.0 b) If someone creates a new piece of malware you are not safe unless you AV Software/Rootkit hunter/whatever knows about it c) If someone really wants to hack you (and he knows his business) you won't know about it until it's to late So in essence what do you mean by how good they are? The number of rootkits they know about? > While going through a thread on gentoo forums(sorry don't have that > url now), I read that > it's quite possible to hijack important processes and also > 'contaminate' > these rootkit checkers. Yes that is possible, however it is very unlikely that this will happen (imho) beacuse: a) Home grown Unix machines aren't an interesting target (there are to few of them) b) If someone with the abilities to do that decides to hack/crack your computer you will either recognize by a non working box, or you won't because he doesn't want to know > So, it's better to use them from a live system > than from the system that could be compromised? That is true for all monitoring systems, it's better to check the probably infected system from a system that is proven to be clean. > Also, can these apps detect all rootkits? No, only the ones they know about. afaik, unix rootkits aren't quite the same as windows viruses most of them are carefully handcrafted and targeted at being invisible and also keeping a backdoor open, not doing something that would kills your data. hth martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wanted to do this in the beginning, my extra switch has an uplink-port on it, but the sireless linksys has non such uplink port. In my experience if I connect the regular port of the linksys to the uplink on the switch it won't work. As you have said though I may need to re-crimp the cable into a x-over format. Cheers!! From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Dec 23 10:48:46 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:48:46 -0600 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> Message-ID: <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Marcher wrote: > afaik, unix rootkits aren't quite the same as windows viruses most of > them are carefully handcrafted and targeted at being invisible and also > keeping a backdoor open, not doing something that would kills your data. Has anyone written a root kit as a 'hypervisor', to keep an eye on a Linux box? A white-hat tool for overseeing the whole show, so such a program can't be installed? I understand that a 'root kit' is different from a 'hypervisor' kinda exploit, but if a decent hypervisor is watching, and prevents one from taking root, that'd be useful now, wouldn't it? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFjQmO6PLtRzZbdhYRAlJ+AJ4k8Z8CuA0xDSVqFVTNrhcgxkj+uQCdHWpY OBr+EsRhOhrm+S5VvvE/q6Q= =7mgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sat Dec 23 10:42:14 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Allow trevor access) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:42:14 +0100 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG In-Reply-To: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> References: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1166870534.8340.0.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> I have never encountered "GAG", where can it be found please. Regards From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sat Dec 23 11:00:03 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:00:03 +0100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Hello, Am 23.12.2006 um 11:48 schrieb Brian Fahrlander: > Has anyone written a root kit as a 'hypervisor', to keep an eye > on a > Linux box? A white-hat tool for overseeing the whole show, so such a > program can't be installed? > > I understand that a 'root kit' is different from a 'hypervisor' > kinda exploit, but if a decent hypervisor is watching, and prevents > one > from taking root, that'd be useful now, wouldn't it? I know that as a proof of concept a root kit has been written for linux and windows that uses the virtualization technology and thus runs outside the context of the OS, so there's no chance to detect it by any means if the OS is running (does a vmware guest know that it is a vmware guest?). But I don't know of anything that has been written for a useful thing. Although I read (I believe to remember that it was one of the last linux magazines) how to utilize the TPM cheap to provide a secure boot. martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From larry at isp.com Sat Dec 23 11:18:46 2006 From: larry at isp.com (Larry) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 05:18:46 -0600 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG In-Reply-To: <1166870534.8340.0.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> References: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> <1166870534.8340.0.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: <458D1096.8030707@isp.com> Allow trevor access wrote: > I have never encountered "GAG", where can it be found please. > > Regards > > > *I too have not heard of "GAG", but Google is your friend...Just go there and you will find yhe site and all of the info you want... Hope this helps you... Larry * -- Powered by Debian/GNU/Linux by Ubuntu ver 6.06 73 de Larry/wd9esu 30yr's A.R.O. "This is Linux Country, on a quiet night you can hear WINDOZE ! Systems REBOOTING !!" GPG Fingerprint: A4D2 BFC2 B21B 8F7A C336 EFDC 7039 3CA5 3332 076E Public Key available from subkeys.pgp.net From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Sat Dec 23 12:11:52 2006 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:11:52 +0100 Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD In-Reply-To: <458C7E62.1040107@yahoo.es> References: <458C7E62.1040107@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <458D1D08.8070703@kaiser-linux.li> José Manuel Martínez Martínez wrote: > Hi all, > This is the first time I take part in this list (I've just joined it, > indeed). I'm a newbie in Linux so I get lost just install it. > I have a Toshiba laptop and recently bought an external 80GB HD. I > downloaded a live cd of the 6.10 ubuntu distribution and I've installed > it already (I created a NTFS partition, a ext3 and a swarp one. I've > used the visual installation assistant. > It seems to work fine BUT I've discovered that I need to have my > external HD plugged any time I switch on my computer since otherwise > GRUB says an error has happened and so on without giving me a chance to > choose OS. Whereas if the external HD is plugged works fine (as I said). > What I would like to do is to start my computer and have GURB working > properly (or no GURB at all) when the external HD isn't plugged to the > laptop, but when it is it should work. > Any idea? Please, I don't know much about linux so an explanation for > dummies would be really wonderful. > Thank you very much! > > Pitragoras Hello Jose Just some questions on your setup to figure out what you need: You did install Ubuntu on the external (USB) HD? What is on your main HD? Where did you install GRUB? MBR? on which HD? When you boot with the external HD plugged, do you boot from this HD? Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Dec 23 12:39:12 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:39:12 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <1166821996.6140.14.camel@localhost> <880dece00612221343n7a993111o96b59eb6d8b04e3e@mail.gmail.com> <87odpvih6c.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1166855272.6514.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8764c23hxr.fsf@fjellstad.org> Duncan Lithgow writes: > On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 01:34 +0100, John L Fjellstad wrote: > >> and everything will be set up for you. >> If you downloaded a .bin package from Sun > Why do that? It's in the 'commercial' repository isn't it? Did you read my last line? In any case, (I don't know about the commercial repository), but the multiverse repository is a couple of versions behind the released version. JRE at the sun site is at v6 (1.6) while latest in Edgy is 1.5.08 -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From ttmrichter at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 13:12:57 2006 From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:12:57 +0800 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG In-Reply-To: <1166870534.8340.0.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> References: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> <1166870534.8340.0.camel@Ubuntu-desktop> Message-ID: <1166879577.14843.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2006-23-12 at 11:42 +0100, Allow trevor access wrote: > I have never encountered "GAG", where can it be found please. Almost anything computer-related can be found at http://www.google.com. -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "Then, of course, there is the feeling that something sexual must be something very happy, a marvelous experience. When this develops, I always see the negative side." --The Dalai Lama -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sat Dec 23 13:26:28 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:26:28 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 22.12.2006 um 20:01 schrieb Dotan Cohen: > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? referencing your next sentence you are not a normal user (university work) most users don't even know what java is. And if your university expects you to do homework/seminar/whatever work in java, save yourself the hassle and use Sun's java. I tried it only once to use jikes, ibm java, gnu java (given about 2 years ago or something like that - dark period, lots of coffee and cigarettes) but finally sticked with sun because it will just work® (in most cases but if you know that you need a certain java version for something to work you won't be the one asking about gnu java any more) Note: By no means I think that the quality of gnu java is bad, it's just that it doesn't fully work, especially if (and I'm pretty sure they do) your employee/teacher uses sun's java and expects your program to just work® > I intend to use Java in Firefox for some university work (they are > idiots, yes, I know, for writting in Java), and I don't know what > else, just yet. I've two machines: a 1.3gHz AMD box with 1GB RAM and a > 2.0gHz Intel laptop with 2GB RAM. Thanks for the info :) I work on a Dual Celeron 300MHz A with 768 RAM so I think that your box should be strong enough :) \martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2474 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 13:38:17 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:38:17 +0200 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com> On 23/12/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Am 22.12.2006 um 20:01 schrieb Dotan Cohen: > > > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that > > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I > > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? > > referencing your next sentence you are not a normal user (university > work) most users don't even know what java is. And if your university > expects you to do homework/seminar/whatever work in java, save > yourself the hassle and use Sun's java. Oh, university work is not considered normal? I didn't think so, either :) I think that most people do in fact know what java is, at least those who know what a mouse is, and what Firefox is. I don't consider the uneducated-and-don't-want-to-learn as normal users. > I tried it only once to use jikes, ibm java, gnu java (given about 2 > years ago or something like that - dark period, lots of coffee and > cigarettes) but finally sticked with sun because it will just work(r) > (in most cases but if you know that you need a certain java version > for something to work you won't be the one asking about gnu java any > more) > > Note: By no means I think that the quality of gnu java is bad, it's > just that it doesn't fully work, especially if (and I'm pretty sure > they do) your employee/teacher uses sun's java and expects your > program to just work(r) > I agree. Even if GNU Java is the best Java out there, it is different than what Mathnet was written for, and I don't want to discover what the differences are 10 minutes before I must complete an assignment. Thanks for the advice. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_hdtv.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ajax.html From marcumbill at bellsouth.net Sat Dec 23 05:01:03 2006 From: marcumbill at bellsouth.net (Bill Marcum) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:01:03 -0500 Subject: modem not responding References: Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:52:57 +0200, housam marzouk wrote: > --> Waiting for carrier. > ATDT07770777 > CONNECT 50667 > --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. > ** Welcome ** > ascend% > --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". > ppp > PPP: Not enabled Wvdial waits for a prompt, then your ISP sends a prompt that wvdial doesn't understand. Try putting "Stupid Mode" in /etc/wvdial.conf This tells wvdial not to wait for the prompt. -- There are no threads in a.b.p.erotica, so there's no gain in using a threaded news reader. (Unknown source) From ljpino at grm.net Sat Dec 23 14:45:52 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:45:52 -0600 Subject: libdvdcss2 installed, but encrypted DVDs no longer play In-Reply-To: <458CB163.20007@Malcolm.id.au> References: <458CB163.20007@Malcolm.id.au> Message-ID: <458D4120.4060501@grm.net> Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > My DVD drive has stopped playing region encrypted DVDs - doesn't matter > what player (MythTV, mplayer, xine...). However, libdvdcss2 has always > been installed (originally the PLF one, but I'm currently trying > 1.2.9-2medibuntu1) and I'm not aware that anything else has changed > since it was working. > > I'm almost thinking it's a sudden hardware problem, but is that even > possible? It plays non-encrypted content fine. Does anyone have any > ideas? How would I troubleshoot this further? > > Thanks. > > I am running the plf version 1.2.9-1 with no problems. Have you tried going back to that version to see if things work again with that version? I have no idea why it would quit working, but if that is the only change you made, see if the previous version works. If it doesn't, then you know your problem is somewhere else. ~Lorin From sergicles at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 15:10:02 2006 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:10:02 +1100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> > > I know that as a proof of concept a root kit has been written for > linux and windows that uses the virtualization technology and thus > runs outside the context of the OS, so there's no chance to detect it > by any means if the OS is running (does a vmware guest know that it > is a vmware guest?). But I don't know of anything that has been > written for a useful thing. Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article that talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... I heard that VMWare released or is about to release a tool that can image the currently running OS into a VMWare machine. I agree that detecting a virus that wraps an OS into a VM image and runs beneath it would be (maybe almost) impossible. However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there unless you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you would see that things are not quite as fast. You would notice a performance decrease since you would be now running 2 OS's. One for the virus and one for the guest. Reduced disk size - a noticeable chunk sine there is another OS installed. On reboot a boot-up screen would show messages inconsistent to the guest OS, etc. Like I said nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a marketing speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper out for self promotion. 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For example you could install tripwire or keep an up to date MD5 database of all (that mater) system files on external media and compare against that once in a while... Also keep a copy of netstat, ps, ls, cp, lsmod, etc on some sort of a removable media so you can validate the system with trusted utilities... On 24/12/06, Serg B. wrote: > > I know that as a proof of concept a root kit has been written for > > linux and windows that uses the virtualization technology and thus > > runs outside the context of the OS, so there's no chance to detect it > > by any means if the OS is running (does a vmware guest know that it > > is a vmware guest?). But I don't know of anything that has been > > written for a useful thing. > > > Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article that > talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... > > I heard that VMWare released or is about to release a tool that can image > the currently running OS into a VMWare machine. > > I agree that detecting a virus that wraps an OS into a VM image and runs > beneath it would be (maybe almost) impossible. > > However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there unless > you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you would see that > things are not quite as fast. You would notice a performance decrease since > you would be now running 2 OS's. One for the virus and one for the guest. > Reduced disk size - a noticeable chunk sine there is another OS installed. > On reboot a boot-up screen would show messages inconsistent to the guest OS, > etc. Like I said nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. > > So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a > marketing speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper out > for self promotion. > > Uh why not, it is the flavor f the month after all. > > > > > -- Serg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sat Dec 23 15:25:23 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:25:23 +0100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Am 23.12.2006 um 14:38 schrieb Dotan Cohen: > Oh, university work is not considered normal? I didn't think so, > either :) > I think that most people do in fact know what java is, at least those > who know what a mouse is, and what Firefox is. I don't consider the > uneducated-and-don't-want-to-learn as normal users. No normal in a sense as using the power button starting up the program that is used to edit text, starting up the program that I can use to surf the internet. Unfortunately (at least in my experience) the "uneducated-and-don't- want-to-learn" are normal users. In that sense having to code something goes far beyond normal (being defined as what the majority knows). martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2474 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stanb at panix.com Sat Dec 23 15:26:54 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:26:54 -0500 Subject: kdetv works, but not xawtv Message-ID: <20061223152654.GA29755@teddy.fas.com> I'm begining to wonder if the X server that comes with Kubuntu 6.10 lacks some basic functionality. I can't get qiv to work oj it, and now xawtv does not work. Here's what I'm getting when I try to start it up: sandi at teddy:~$ xawtv This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.17-10-386) X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode Major opcode of failed request: 136 (XFree86-DGA) Minor opcode of failed request: 1 (XF86DGAGetVideoLL) Serial number of failed request: 65 Current serial number in output stream: 65 kdetv works fine, and xawtv does not even get as far as bringing up anything on the display. If I run qiv from the Ubuntu machine, and let it display on existing non Ubuntu machines, it works just fine. Am I missing something? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sat Dec 23 15:31:20 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:31:20 +0100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Am 23.12.2006 um 16:10 schrieb Serg B.: > Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article > that > talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... nope sorry was a printed articel and I already threw away the magazine... :( > However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there > unless > you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you would > see that > things are not quite as fast. You would notice a performance > decrease since > you would be now running 2 OS's. One for the virus and one for the > guest. > Reduced disk size - a noticeable chunk sine there is another OS > installed. > On reboot a boot-up screen would show messages inconsistent to the > guest OS, > etc. Like I said nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. the stealthy thing as I understood it was that you are in fact not running to OS but with the virtualization technology the software could at runtime of the os switch the context in which the os is running. I have no idea how large such a thing would be, but even if it was 20 MB with todays HD sizes one would hardly recognize. And since it's a "small" programm that just hides a few processes from being found I don't think that you would notice any difference. > So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a > marketing > speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper out > for self > promotion. I desperately hope so, if not that would mean a _lot_ of spam (which is the thing that imho pays off most at the moment). Consider you have a running windows/linux/whatever os box and someone has a root kit of that kind installed. no chance to detect it, new investements for anti malware software etc. martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For instance using rsync or even cp. /Magnus -- Magnus Runesson Linuxalert From dragffy at yandex.ru Sat Dec 23 15:33:49 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:33:49 +0000 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166888029.5451.2.camel@worldventures> On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 02:10 +1100, Serg B. wrote > > Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article > that talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... > Sound James Bond to me too!! > I heard that VMWare released or is about to release a tool that can > image the currently running OS into a VMWare machine. > > I agree that detecting a virus that wraps an OS into a VM image and > runs beneath it would be (maybe almost) impossible. > > However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there > unless you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you > would see that things are not quite as fast. You would notice a > performance decrease since you would be now running 2 OS's. One for > the virus and one for the guest. Reduced disk size - a noticeable > chunk sine there is another OS installed. On reboot a boot-up screen > would show messages inconsistent to the guest OS, etc. Like I said > nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. > > So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a > marketing speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper > out for self promotion. > > Uh why not, it is the flavor f the month after all. I think perhaps that when we're talking about this kind of virus it isn't limited to just VMware. Imagine a virtual server service that has a single computer hosting 50 operating systems using Xen technology. Now think about the trouble that a virus could cause all that. Horrible. If a virus managed to escape the guest OS... From sergicles at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 15:38:02 2006 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:38:02 +1100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0612230738xcfbbb82m7477c8644dee1e8b@mail.gmail.com> Well yeah, if it is the case it is very, very scary to think of the possibilities and the damage something like this could cause. Perhaps it's time to move into security industry, looks like the business will be booming there. On 24/12/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 23.12.2006 um 16:10 schrieb Serg B.: > > > Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article > > that > > talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... > > nope sorry was a printed articel and I already threw away the > magazine... :( > > > However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there > > unless > > you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you would > > see that > > things are not quite as fast. You would notice a performance > > decrease since > > you would be now running 2 OS's. One for the virus and one for the > > guest. > > Reduced disk size - a noticeable chunk sine there is another OS > > installed. > > On reboot a boot-up screen would show messages inconsistent to the > > guest OS, > > etc. Like I said nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. > > the stealthy thing as I understood it was that you are in fact not > running to OS but with the virtualization technology the software > could at runtime of the os switch the context in which the os is > running. > > I have no idea how large such a thing would be, but even if it was 20 > MB with todays HD sizes one would hardly recognize. And since it's a > "small" programm that just hides a few processes from being found I > don't think that you would notice any difference. > > > So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a > > marketing > > speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper out > > for self > > promotion. > > I desperately hope so, if not that would mean a _lot_ of spam (which > is the thing that imho pays off most at the moment). Consider you > have a running windows/linux/whatever os box and someone has a root > kit of that kind installed. no chance to detect it, new investements > for anti malware software etc. > > martin > > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- Serg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:47:30 +1100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <1680c5ca0612230738xcfbbb82m7477c8644dee1e8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> <1680c5ca0612230738xcfbbb82m7477c8644dee1e8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0612230747h11faaaf4jcdfa8ce39f4c7dea@mail.gmail.com> While on the subject, here are some links regarding VM security from a Pen-Test mailing list (securityfocus.com) email I haven't read yet: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/technology/security/ http://vmblog.com/archive/2006/05/23/605.aspx Maybe somebody will find it useful. Maybe I'll find it useful but I haven't read them yet :/ On 24/12/06, Serg B. wrote: > > Well yeah, if it is the case it is very, very scary to think of the > possibilities and the damage something like this could cause. > > Perhaps it's time to move into security industry, looks like the business > will be booming there. > > On 24/12/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Am 23.12.2006 um 16:10 schrieb Serg B.: > > > > > Sounds like Jame Bond stuff to me. Do you have a link to an article > > > that > > > talks about the above proof of concept code? Since you know... > > > > nope sorry was a printed articel and I already threw away the > > magazine... :( > > > > > However you would definitely know about it. Nothing stealthy there > > > unless > > > you run one powerful mother of a machine! And even then you would > > > see that > > > things are not quite as fast. You would notice a performance > > > decrease since > > > you would be now running 2 OS's. One for the virus and one for the > > > guest. > > > Reduced disk size - a noticeable chunk sine there is another OS > > > installed. > > > On reboot a boot-up screen would show messages inconsistent to the > > > guest OS, > > > etc. Like I said nothing stealthy, in MY opinion. > > > > the stealthy thing as I understood it was that you are in fact not > > running to OS but with the virtualization technology the software > > could at runtime of the os switch the context in which the os is > > running. > > > > I have no idea how large such a thing would be, but even if it was 20 > > MB with todays HD sizes one would hardly recognize. And since it's a > > "small" programm that just hides a few processes from being found I > > don't think that you would notice any difference. > > > > > So yeah I doubt that this proof of concept is anything more then a > > > marketing > > > speak for VM tools and somebody trying to get security paper out > > > for self > > > promotion. > > > > I desperately hope so, if not that would mean a _lot_ of spam (which > > is the thing that imho pays off most at the moment). Consider you > > have a running windows/linux/whatever os box and someone has a root > > kit of that kind installed. no chance to detect it, new investements > > for anti malware software etc. > > > > martin > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-users mailing list > > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Serg -- Serg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rvhaasteren at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 16:40:55 2006 From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:40:55 +0000 Subject: windows reinstalled problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612230840j51af3bf3ve074fd5e6d8c561@mail.gmail.com> It sounds as if the wrong root partition is passed to your kernel when booting from grub. Just to be sure, you can boot windows from grub now, right? What you could do is edit the line in grub: select the line which boots ubuntu in grub and press 'e'. Then you can see the boot lines needed to boot ubuntu. Check that the partitions are ok. You can again edit the lines by pressing 'e' and confirming them with 'Enter'. And when done editing you can boot by pressing 'b'. Things to check: - Is the right partition loaded by grub? (in (hd0,0) format) - Is the right image loaded by grub? - Is the right root partition passed to the kernel? (in /dev/hda1 format). Good luck! On 12/22/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > > This is a very common problem when windows is reinstalled. When Windows is > installed it automatically overwrites the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the > primary harddisk (which is listed first in your BIOS). When reinstall I > simply change this order (I install windows on a separate physical disk) > and > after the install I change it back. This is the easiest way. > >>>Your problem is easy to solve. Your partitions aren't gone, you just > have to > put back your grub MBR. If you didn't make a GRUB bootable disk, then you > can use the ubuntu live cd and install grub on your MBR again. Just go to > a > terminal and type 'sudo grub'. Now, in grub you can do this: > > grub> root (hd0,0) > If you are not sure which partition actually holds the boot directory, use > the command find, like this: > grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 > This will search for the file name /boot/grub/stage1 and show the devices > which contain the file. Once you've set the root device correctly, run the > command setup: > grub> setup (hd0) > > Succes! > > Rutger > > > > thank you 4 that reply. i went according to ur reply and was able to > reinstate the boot menu, then i selected the ubuntu option from the > menu, thats when things went wrong- a new screen saying "cant mount > the patition................." comes up.actually i set hd0,7 as my > root, but in the screen where the error message came it is written > root(hd0,9). i had confirmed that the partition with the boot file was > hd0,7. can u tell what exactly is the problem. > Thanks. > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.marcher at openforce.com Sat Dec 23 16:43:42 2006 From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:43:42 +0100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <1166888029.5451.2.camel@worldventures> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> <1166888029.5451.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <3E88D8F1-0A92-4E89-ACFE-28092CFCEF73@openforce.com> Am 23.12.2006 um 16:33 schrieb Gabriel Dragffy: > I think perhaps that when we're talking about this kind of virus it > isn't limited to just VMware. Imagine a virtual server service that > has > a single computer hosting 50 operating systems using Xen > technology. Now > think about the trouble that a virus could cause all that. > Horrible. If > a virus managed to escape the guest OS... No need to think that this (method) is new. Just think of the very common chroot environments for * postfix * bind * apache * etc This is to some extend the same, postfix doesn't have a clue about the rest of the system when chrooted, you can't really find out about it. Also have a look at the way gentoo is installed, if you chroot to /mnt/myinstall you are trapped inside this directory, how would you get info about the hosts /proc (or whatever) filesystem. martin PS: still it is new as it is now hardware supported and doesn't need any special environment. Also James Bond is just a mere mortal, his emails can be faked too so no need for virtualization viruses :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 24/12/06, Martin Marcher wrote: > > > Am 23.12.2006 um 16:33 schrieb Gabriel Dragffy: > > > I think perhaps that when we're talking about this kind of virus it > > isn't limited to just VMware. Imagine a virtual server service that > > has > > a single computer hosting 50 operating systems using Xen > > technology. Now > > think about the trouble that a virus could cause all that. > > Horrible. If > > a virus managed to escape the guest OS... > > No need to think that this (method) is new. Just think of the very > common chroot environments for > > * postfix > * bind > * apache > * etc > > This is to some extend the same, postfix doesn't have a clue about > the rest of the system when chrooted, you can't really find out about > it. Also have a look at the way gentoo is installed, if you chroot > to /mnt/myinstall you are trapped inside this directory, how would > you get info about the hosts /proc (or whatever) filesystem. > > > martin > > PS: still it is new as it is now hardware supported and doesn't need > any special environment. Also James Bond is just a mere mortal, his > emails can be faked too so no need for virtualization viruses :) > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > -- Serg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Sat Dec 23 17:40:21 2006 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:40:21 +0100 Subject: ALSA 'working' still no sound Message-ID: Hi all, Before I get into it - Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS currently updated Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Creative 5.1 surround sound speakers My system was doing find till I decided to set some power saving options and it went to hibernate. Now I don't get any sounds. I checked in the Volume Control and everything was muted... unmuted. No sound. Restarted. see ALSA loads, hear speakers pop, check and see volume settings are good, still no sound. I went through the Comprhensive Sound Guide and have the following output - Quote: jeremy at Main:~$ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 0: emu10k1 [ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback] Subdevices: 32/32 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 Subdevice #8: subdevice #8 Subdevice #9: subdevice #9 Subdevice #10: subdevice #10 Subdevice #11: subdevice #11 Subdevice #12: subdevice #12 Subdevice #13: subdevice #13 Subdevice #14: subdevice #14 Subdevice #15: subdevice #15 Subdevice #16: subdevice #16 Subdevice #17: subdevice #17 Subdevice #18: subdevice #18 Subdevice #19: subdevice #19 Subdevice #20: subdevice #20 Subdevice #21: subdevice #21 Subdevice #22: subdevice #22 Subdevice #23: subdevice #23 Subdevice #24: subdevice #24 Subdevice #25: subdevice #25 Subdevice #26: subdevice #26 Subdevice #27: subdevice #27 Subdevice #28: subdevice #28 Subdevice #29: subdevice #29 Subdevice #30: subdevice #30 Subdevice #31: subdevice #31 card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 2: emu10k1 efx [Multichannel Capture/PT Playback] Subdevices: 8/8 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 3: emu10k1 [Multichannel Playback] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 4: p16v [p16v] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Quote: jeremy at Main:~$ lspci -v ***cut*** 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) Subsystem: Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 193 I/O ports at e000 [size=64] Capabilities: ***cut*** Quote: ALSA Site - Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Value CA0108 Details (emu10k1) [ANio] [MIDIio] (1) (3) No 96khz 24Bit support. Quote: jeremy at Main:~$ sudo modprobe snd- ***cut*** snd-emu10k1 ***cut*** Quote: jeremy at Main:~$ sudo cat /etc/modules # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored. lp psmouse sbp2 sr_mod snd-emu10k1 I dual boot so I know all the connections are good since I get sound in Windows. Also I have loaded amaroK as my music player and have installed the restricted drivers for mp3s and the like. Again, this was working up to about 2 hours ago. The only thing I changed in that time was trying to format a USB hard drive with GParted (installed w/ Synaptic) that failed. And the power saving options, which I've since turned off. I really need help, this was why I quit fedora to come here. Thank you, Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torsten at ubuntu.com Sat Dec 23 17:36:17 2006 From: torsten at ubuntu.com (Torsten Spindler) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:36:17 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice on edgy In-Reply-To: <20061223154501.GA2719@localhost.localdomain> References: <20061223154501.GA2719@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1166895377.5263.2.camel@seafire> On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 21:15 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > $ oowriter > > ** (process:5885): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / > abnormal early exit ... > > Any pointers in this will be a help. A quick google search revealed this message: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=58369 Does the suggested solution work for you? Torsten From stanb at panix.com Sat Dec 23 19:53:23 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:53:23 -0500 Subject: mp3blaster Message-ID: <20061223195323.GA4841@teddy.fas.com> Kubuntu 6.10 apt-get installed mp3blaster. But when I run it, it syays it cannot opent the sound device. How can I fis this? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From cheataah at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 19:59:26 2006 From: cheataah at gmail.com (Cheatah 0#@!^) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:29:26 +0530 Subject: Grub and Gag Message-ID: On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:25 +0530, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > i was running kubuntu 6.06 and winxp on my system. i had some problems > with my windows so i formatted the drive and reinstalled windows. now > i cant see the boot menu(grub) and the windows automatically boots. is > my linux installation completely gone or just the booting is taken > control by windows?? if so how can i return to grub boot loader?? You'll keep getting lots of people telling you how to avoid and fix this problem using GRUB. Those solutions work but they're hard to learn and in my opinion messy. Here's my view: GRUB should not be used as a boot manager. It is more a kernel manager and should be allowed to manage the startup of only one installation. I always install GRUB to the same partitions as root (/). GAG is a boot manager which sticks to it's job. It installs in MBR and you just point it to any bootable partition - then GRUB or whatever can take it from there. Why do it this way? If you (re)install anything which spoils you MBR you just reinstall GAG and point it to the bootable partitions your using. If you have GRUB installed to MBR you have to configure it to boot to the correct kernel and it uses a tricky syntax which makes it hard to edit for mere semi-nerds. An even more compelling example is the case I hit too many times. 1. Install Windows (writes to MBR) 2. Install Ubuntu (overwrites MBR) 3. Install another Linux (overwrites MBR again) >Now, if there is an update to the Ubuntu Kernel, Ubuntu will edit its >own grub files to point to the new Kernel. But that file is not being >used anymore - another Linux installation has taken over. Now let's say >you want to fix this problem, so you make GRUB from Ubuntu write to MBR, >now the other linux installation has the same problem!! ?Using GAG each installation has it's own GRUB files, they don't touch >each other. When you start you use GAG to say which GRUB (or Lilo or >Windows) configuration should be used. One task, one app. >Duncan But how to make gag as the boot manager?? can u pls explain?? From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Sat Dec 23 20:36:47 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:36:47 +0100 Subject: Grub and Gag In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200612232037.kBNKauNB001169@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> How do you load gag after an installation is already on the drive. I just tried it and overwrote the Ubuntu grub install. From garryknight at gmx.net Sat Dec 23 20:54:40 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:54:40 +0000 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error Message-ID: Until recently I've been using rsync between my laptop and PC without any problems. Both run Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake. Just recently, when trying to sync directories across machines, I've been getting the following error (on the machine on which I start the rsync): Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive). I'm not an expert on rsync or ssh, but this looks like an error returned by ssh. On both machines, I'm using version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu 3.1 of openssh-client and the same version of openssh-server, and version 2.6.6-1ubuntu2 of rsync. As I said, I'm not an expert, and I've looked at ssh_config on both machines until I'm blue in the face (well, a darker shade of pink...) and can't think what's going on. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From pitragoras at yahoo.es Sat Dec 23 21:25:15 2006 From: pitragoras at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9=20Manuel=20Mart=EDnez=20Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:25:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD Message-ID: <781142.36654.qm@web25501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Thomas, My answer is in upper case in your message. Look at it below! Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:11:52 +0100 From: Thomas Kaiser Subject: Re: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-ID: <458D1D08.8070703 at kaiser-linux.li> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Jos? Manuel Mart?nez Mart?nez wrote: > Hi all, > This is the first time I take part in this list (I've just joined it, > indeed). I'm a newbie in Linux so I get lost just install it. > I have a Toshiba laptop and recently bought an external 80GB HD. I > downloaded a live cd of the 6.10 ubuntu distribution and I've installed > it already (I created a NTFS partition, a ext3 and a swarp one. I've > used the visual installation assistant. > It seems to work fine BUT I've discovered that I need to have my > external HD plugged any time I switch on my computer since otherwise > GRUB says an error has happened and so on without giving me a chance to > choose OS. Whereas if the external HD is plugged works fine (as I said). > What I would like to do is to start my computer and have GURB working > properly (or no GURB at all) when the external HD isn't plugged to the > laptop, but when it is it should work. > Any idea? Please, I don't know much about linux so an explanation for > dummies would be really wonderful. > Thank you very much! > > Pitragoras Hello Jose Just some questions on your setup to figure out what you need: You did install Ubuntu on the external (USB) HD? YES What is on your main HD? WINDOWS AND ALL MY FILES, PROGRAMS... Where did you install GRUB? MBR? on which HD? NOW, I'M LOST. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN HD0 sda1 THE INTERNAL HD I ASSUME When you boot with the external HD plugged, do you boot from this HD? YES, AND IT WORKS FINE. NOW I TRIED TO MODIFY THINGS THROUGH THIS IN TERMINAL I TYPED: SUDO CHROOT /MEDIA/SDA1 AND THEN SUDO GRUB INSTALL HD0,0 AND NOW I CONTINUE LIKE BEFORE AND I CAN'T RUN WINDOWS EVEN WITH THE EXTERNAL HD PLUGGED. I'M REALLY WORRIED. ANY TIP? THANKS! Regards, Thomas ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 21:44:42 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:44:42 -0600 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <1166888029.5451.2.camel@worldventures> References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> <1680c5ca0612230710j184b4391g2874b0862149e729@mail.gmail.com> <1166888029.5451.2.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612231344j779010b6i6eb19f60c876515f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/23/06, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > > I think perhaps that when we're talking about this kind of virus it > isn't limited to just VMware. Imagine a virtual server service that has > a single computer hosting 50 operating systems using Xen technology. Now > think about the trouble that a virus could cause all that. Horrible. If > a virus managed to escape the guest OS... Oh yes! And imagine if the govenment's program to study mental telepathy managed to take control of all our brains and read our passwords right from our very brains! They might even take control of our bodies and make us read spam and click on the link inside! We might even infect our *own computers* with *gasp* MALWARE while under MIND CONTROL! The horror! (This entire discussion is bunk, IMO.) -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From brian at fahrlander.net Sat Dec 23 21:55:22 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:55:22 -0600 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <458DA5CA.5070407@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garry Knight wrote: > Until recently I've been using rsync between my laptop and PC without any > problems. Both run Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake. > > Just recently, when trying to sync directories across machines, I've been > getting the following error (on the machine on which I start the rsync): > > Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive). > > I'm not an expert on rsync or ssh, but this looks like an error returned by > ssh. On both machines, I'm using version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu 3.1 of > openssh-client and the same version of openssh-server, and version > 2.6.6-1ubuntu2 of rsync. Nope, you've got it, it's ssh. > As I said, I'm not an expert, and I've looked at ssh_config on both machines > until I'm blue in the face (well, a darker shade of pink...) and can't > think what's going on. There's a couple of things here. 1. Use RSA keys. This isn't a solution to "Permission denied", but it will make your life easier, and provides good protection against the bots that guess usernames and passwords. (Yes, I created an account "test", with a password of "password" once, and they got me. The threat is real.) 2. I'm guessing that you're transferring files across an insecure mechanism (otherwise ssh wouldn't be necessary). In the long term, SSH is going to do a lot of expansion on the data to be moved; you might want to turn up the compression a good bit. (1-Adam-12: see the man.) Now, while the above isn't a solution to the exact message you're getting, it's just possible that by switching to RSA keys, you can at least _avoid_ the core problem. And in so doing, you make things both quicker and safer, so it's a good idea. Thumbnail sketch: The user that's doing the ssh runs "ssh-keygen -t rsa". Inside that user's .ssh directory it'll create id_rsa and id_rsa.pub. The "pub" file goes into $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys. Then the next time you attempt the connection, it won't ask for a password, and all is well. There are _tons_ of RSA howtos. Heck, even Wil Wheaton wrote one. Pick one that suits your reading style and have fun! (And you can write me, offlist, if you need help.) - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFjaXK6PLtRzZbdhYRAp/GAJ43IA5adKW6H6ja+qqZ7QhnCltfjgCeN6G9 qzuuuAaYu81D9FrWDx0wKT0= =hbFm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fmccormick at videotron.ca Sat Dec 23 23:39:04 2006 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:39:04 -0500 Subject: CD problems Message-ID: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to burn a compilation of files ripped from vinyl to a cd but it's not working. I used Rezound to rip the album, seperated the music into tracks and cleaned it up, then burned it to a CD, but the only software that will play it is XMMS or similar software. CD Player just gives me a drive error. I can see the files on the CD. What did I do wrong ? - -- Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjb4Y8Rvr3Tn207ARAk5SAJ0XwenQi+71RDm9qMfnBksK4pJtmwCfYbfL /vg6FZvhfCXZ1SMwF5ZsjnQ= =/g9l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Sat Dec 23 23:47:06 2006 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:47:06 +0100 Subject: ALSA 'working' still no sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/23/06, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > > Hi all, > Before I get into it - > > Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS currently updated > Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS > Creative 5.1 surround sound speakers > > My system was doing find till I decided to set some power saving options > and it went to hibernate. Now I don't get any sounds. I checked in the > Volume Control and everything was muted... unmuted. No sound. Restarted. see > ALSA loads, hear speakers pop, check and see volume settings are good, still > no sound. > > I went through the Comprhensive Sound Guide and have the following output > - > > Quote: > jeremy at Main:~$ aplay -l > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 0: emu10k1 [ADC > Capture/Standard PCM Playback] > Subdevices: 32/32 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 > Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 > Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 > Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 > Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 > Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 > Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 > Subdevice #8: subdevice #8 > Subdevice #9: subdevice #9 > Subdevice #10: subdevice #10 > Subdevice #11: subdevice #11 > Subdevice #12: subdevice #12 > Subdevice #13: subdevice #13 > Subdevice #14: subdevice #14 > Subdevice #15: subdevice #15 > Subdevice #16: subdevice #16 > Subdevice #17: subdevice #17 > Subdevice #18: subdevice #18 > Subdevice #19: subdevice #19 > Subdevice #20: subdevice #20 > Subdevice #21: subdevice #21 > Subdevice #22: subdevice #22 > Subdevice #23: subdevice #23 > Subdevice #24: subdevice #24 > Subdevice #25: subdevice #25 > Subdevice #26: subdevice #26 > Subdevice #27: subdevice #27 > Subdevice #28: subdevice #28 > Subdevice #29: subdevice #29 > Subdevice #30: subdevice #30 > Subdevice #31: subdevice #31 > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 2: emu10k1 efx > [Multichannel Capture/PT Playback] > Subdevices: 8/8 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 > Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 > Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 > Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 > Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 > Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 > Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 3: emu10k1 [Multichannel > Playback] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 4: p16v [p16v] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > Quote: > jeremy at Main:~$ lspci -v > ***cut*** > 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) > Subsystem: Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 193 > I/O ports at e000 [size=64] > Capabilities: > ***cut*** > Quote: > ALSA Site - > Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Value CA0108 Details (emu10k1) [ANio] [MIDIio] > (1) (3) > No 96khz 24Bit support. > Quote: > jeremy at Main:~$ sudo modprobe snd- > ***cut*** > snd-emu10k1 > ***cut*** > Quote: > jeremy at Main:~$ sudo cat /etc/modules > # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. > # > # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded > # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored. > > lp > psmouse > sbp2 > sr_mod > snd-emu10k1 > I dual boot so I know all the connections are good since I get sound in > Windows. Also I have loaded amaroK as my music player and have installed the > restricted drivers for mp3s and the like. > > Again, this was working up to about 2 hours ago. The only thing I changed > in that time was trying to format a USB hard drive with GParted (installed > w/ Synaptic) that failed. And the power saving options, which I've since > turned off. > > I really need help, this was why I quit fedora to come here. > > Thank you, > > Jeremy Just went through the sound mixer and added all the options to my volume menu. Turned them all up and unmuted all. Still nothing. However, now when I roll over the speaker it says 'HD SPDIF Front'. I'm using 3 jacks out the back of my sound card for my speakers. Shouldn't I be using something else for main out? Still no sound in Ubuntu as of 6 hours ago. Windows works fine. 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Have you tried > going back to that version to see if things work again with that > version? I have no idea why it would quit working, but if that is the > only change you made, see if the previous version works. If it doesn't, > then you know your problem is somewhere else. 1.2.9-1 is what I was running before too, and I still have the deb - I've switched it back, no change. (I'm running Edgy, of course.) That's what makes me think "hardware", because unless I installed an update that I have forgotten about, I'm pretty sure nothing changed in between working and not working. But has anyone heard of a DVD player developing a hardware fault that only stops encrypted content playing? -- Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 24 00:10:27 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:10:27 +0100 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Frank McCormick wrote: > I am trying to burn a compilation of files ripped from vinyl to a cd but > it's not working. I used Rezound to rip the album, seperated the music into > tracks and cleaned it up, then burned it to a CD, but the only software that > will play it is XMMS or similar software. CD Player just gives me a drive error. > I can see the files on the CD. What did I do wrong ? Sounds (no pun intended ;-), like you burned a DATA CD, not an AUDIO CD. If you want to make an audio CD, and assuming you are using Gnome not KDE, just use "Serpentine", it's installed by default and has the only purpose of, precisely, create Audio CD's ! It's super easy to use. -- Vince From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 24 00:16:12 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:16:12 +0100 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Sounds (no pun intended ;-), like you burned a DATA CD, not an AUDIO CD. > If you want to make an audio CD, and assuming you are using Gnome not > KDE, just use "Serpentine", it's installed by default and has the only > purpose of, precisely, create Audio CD's ! > It's super easy to use. You can find information in the help system, too: Go to System->Help->System Documentation, then in the search box type "serpentine". As it explains in there, normally, when you insert a blank CD in your drive, you should see a window that explicaztely asks you if you want to burn a DATA Cd, or AUDIO CD... didn't you see this dialog ??? -- Vince From fmccormick at videotron.ca Sun Dec 24 00:35:47 2006 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:35:47 -0500 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:16:12 +0100 Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > Sounds (no pun intended ;-), like you burned a DATA CD, not an AUDIO CD. > > If you want to make an audio CD, and assuming you are using Gnome not > > KDE, just use "Serpentine", it's installed by default and has the only > > purpose of, precisely, create Audio CD's ! > > It's super easy to use. > > You can find information in the help system, too: > > Go to System->Help->System Documentation, then in the search box type "serpentine". > As it explains in there, normally, when you insert a blank CD in your drive, you should see a window that explicaztely asks you if you want to burn a DATA Cd, or AUDIO CD... didn't you see this dialog ??? I did but I hit ignore, then dragged the files into the Nautilus cd/dvd creator. Obviously it did't create an audio CD. I also tried Serpentine seperately, but it wouldn't do a thing. I added all the files to its window, hit "write disc", but it just sat there. A search of the mailing list archives shows Serpentine can be a problem at times. I'll try your suggestion, and tell it to create an audio cd when I insert the blank. Thanks - -- Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjctj8Rvr3Tn207ARAu24AJsGgO4HNmi3QlCBx6HClf6obQnDLACZAUC+ ecbV5c/hpCIDrtIESWQUqxs= =81Lz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net Sun Dec 24 00:47:34 2006 From: lorenzo at taylor.homelinux.net (Lorenzo Taylor) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:47:34 -0500 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20061224004733.GA23306@taylor.homelinux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Seems as though you may have burned a data CD when you meant to burn an audio CD. If this is the case, it would explain why you can see the files on the CD and can't play it with the CD player. Try burning the CD as an audio CD. There should be a selection for that in the app you are using. HTH, Lorenzo - -- I've always found anomalies to be very relaxing. It's a curse. - --Jadzia Dax: Star Trek Deep Space Nine (The Assignment) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjc4lG9IpekrhBfIRAl/uAJ9U+/m0WewFMA3uF7OTTEd81zY2hQCgxGpl ByDsJkKFXM8i/188j7IWsNg= =VauP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fmccormick at videotron.ca Sun Dec 24 00:49:35 2006 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:49:35 -0500 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20061223194935.916f9b63.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:35:47 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:16:12 +0100 > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > > Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > > Sounds (no pun intended ;-), like you burned a DATA CD, not an AUDIO CD. > > > If you want to make an audio CD, and assuming you are using Gnome not > > > KDE, just use "Serpentine", it's installed by default and has the only > > > purpose of, precisely, create Audio CD's ! > > > It's super easy to use. > > > > You can find information in the help system, too: > > > > Go to System->Help->System Documentation, then in the search box type "serpentine". > > As it explains in there, normally, when you insert a blank CD in your drive, you should see a window that explicaztely asks you if you want to burn a DATA Cd, or AUDIO CD... didn't you see this dialog ??? > > > I did but I hit ignore, then dragged the files into the Nautilus cd/dvd > creator. Obviously it did't create an audio CD. I also tried Serpentine > seperately, but it wouldn't do a thing. I added all the files to its window, > hit "write disc", but it just sat there. A search of the mailing list archives > shows Serpentine can be a problem at times. I'll try your suggestion, and tell > it to create an audio cd when I insert the blank. > Put in **another** blank CD - told it to create an audio cd....waited a couple of minutes while the cpu was at 75%...but nothing happened. Ran Serpentine, click write to disc....nothing. Ran Serpentine from a terminal. See below frank at dapper:~$ serpentine (serpentine:5249): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Trying to dispose element capsfilter1, but it is not in the NULL state. You need to explicitly set elements to the NULL state before dropping the final reference, to allow them to clean up. That explains that. Now what does the error message, and 75% cpu usage mean ??? - -- Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjc6f8Rvr3Tn207ARAmbQAJ0ZcnHPY/ZMVOJl3gtKTv/sWLR5XgCfeGpM N+ydLN/Eaj1kMYajq8Xd2eE= =AKwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 24 00:55:25 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:55:25 +0100 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20061224015525.f6b6ff29.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Frank McCormick wrote: > I also tried Serpentine seperately, but it wouldn't do a thing. I added all the files to its window, > hit "write disc", but it just sat there. A search of the mailing list archives > shows Serpentine can be a problem at times. I'll try your suggestion, and tell > it to create an audio cd when I insert the blank. Ah, if you are having problems with Serpentine, then the dialog won't help you, as I think all it does is fire up Serpentine ! ;-) Just try a different CD burning application, see if you have more luck. You can try "gnomebaker" if that still doesn't work, try the famous "k3b", it's a KDE program so will look bloated and out of place in Gnome, but if it can get you going. If you want to get rid of the mess of KDE libs that will get pulled when you install K3B, better to install it from the command line rather than synaptic; sudo apt-get install k3b then later to remove it and all the kde libs with it: sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove k3b -- Vince From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 24 01:00:48 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:00:48 +0100 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061223194935.916f9b63.fmccormick@videotron.ca> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061223194935.916f9b63.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20061224020048.e379e0a9.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Frank McCormick wrote: > That explains that. Now what does the error message, and 75% cpu usage > mean ??? I am afraid it's herd to debug as I am not in your shoes to see exactly what you did (and also because I have used serpentine only once, and that was nearly 2 years ago when it was introduced IIRC !), but the high CPU load might be good news, since Serpentine will take quite a bit of time ( a few minutes) of hard CPU work, to convert all your sounds files before it can actually write them to the CD ! But I would have thought you would get a progress bar to indicate progress ! If you got high CPU load while Serpentine was apparently doing nothing, then indeed something might be wrong ! To help figure out, as I said in a previous mail, try other burning apps, like Gnomebaker, and then if that fails, try K3B. -- Vince From mehul.forums at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 02:06:07 2006 From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 07:36:07 +0530 Subject: Grub and Gag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612231806icc44847vb94104d81410930d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/24/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ wrote: > > But how to make gag as the boot manager?? can u pls explain?? > You need to copy it to a floppy/CD and write it to your PC's MBR. The detailed explaination is given in a text file with gag. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fmccormick at videotron.ca Sun Dec 24 02:11:01 2006 From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:11:01 -0500 Subject: CD problems In-Reply-To: <20061224020048.e379e0a9.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061223183904.a96ac8be.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224011027.40f9f983.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061224011612.70d6642f.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061223193547.24671dcd.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061223194935.916f9b63.fmccormick@videotron.ca> <20061224020048.e379e0a9.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: <20061223211101.b13fe44f.fmccormick@videotron.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:00:48 +0100 Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > Frank McCormick wrote: > > That explains that. Now what does the error message, and 75% cpu usage > > mean ??? > > I am afraid it's herd to debug as I am not in your shoes to see exactly > what you did (and also because I have used serpentine only once, and > that was nearly 2 years ago when it was introduced IIRC !), but the > high CPU load might be good news, since Serpentine will take quite a > bit of time ( a few minutes) of hard CPU work, to convert all your > sounds files before it can actually write them to the CD ! > But I would have thought you would get a progress bar to indicate > progress ! If you got high CPU load while Serpentine was apparently > doing nothing, then indeed something might be wrong ! No progress bar, nothing. It just sat there; I checked with top and it had two instances of Python taking up all the cpu time. As I said before I suspect Serpentine is buggy. > > To help figure out, as I said in a previous mail, try other burning > apps, like Gnomebaker, and then if that fails, try K3B. > That's what I ended up doing - GnomeBaker works, although esthetically its a little sloppy looking. But it does work - and I now have my audio cd's. Thanks for the help. p.s. It seems Linux is still a little behind Windoze when it comes to multi-media etc. Please....all comment to /dev/null - -- Cheers Frank -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjeG18Rvr3Tn207ARAgh0AJ9riQA2xUDCyQ1BrnT/4Mk00flFNgCfeZXJ yJpuCze5egrWX7EbF9HYigk= =/J2G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Sun Dec 24 07:06:23 2006 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:06:23 +0100 Subject: ALSA 'working' still no sound [SOLVED] Message-ID: Ok, Apparently turning messing with all the options fixed it. Nothing like random action to fix a problem. Is there a log I could look at to see if there was a change? JT On 12/24/06, Jeremy Thompson wrote: > > On 12/23/06, Jeremy Thompson > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Before I get into it - > > > > Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS currently updated > > Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS > > Creative 5.1 surround sound speakers > > > > My system was doing find till I decided to set some power saving options > > and it went to hibernate. Now I don't get any sounds. I checked in the > > Volume Control and everything was muted... unmuted. No sound. Restarted. see > > ALSA loads, hear speakers pop, check and see volume settings are good, still > > no sound. > > > > I went through the Comprhensive Sound Guide and have the following > > output - > > > > Quote: > > jeremy at Main:~$ aplay -l > > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** > > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 0: emu10k1 [ADC > > Capture/Standard PCM Playback] > > Subdevices: 32/32 > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 > > Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 > > Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 > > Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 > > Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 > > Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 > > Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 > > Subdevice #8: subdevice #8 > > Subdevice #9: subdevice #9 > > Subdevice #10: subdevice #10 > > Subdevice #11: subdevice #11 > > Subdevice #12: subdevice #12 > > Subdevice #13: subdevice #13 > > Subdevice #14: subdevice #14 > > Subdevice #15: subdevice #15 > > Subdevice #16: subdevice #16 > > Subdevice #17: subdevice #17 > > Subdevice #18: subdevice #18 > > Subdevice #19: subdevice #19 > > Subdevice #20: subdevice #20 > > Subdevice #21: subdevice #21 > > Subdevice #22: subdevice #22 > > Subdevice #23: subdevice #23 > > Subdevice #24: subdevice #24 > > Subdevice #25: subdevice #25 > > Subdevice #26: subdevice #26 > > Subdevice #27: subdevice #27 > > Subdevice #28: subdevice #28 > > Subdevice #29: subdevice #29 > > Subdevice #30: subdevice #30 > > Subdevice #31: subdevice #31 > > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 2: emu10k1 efx > > [Multichannel Capture/PT Playback] > > Subdevices: 8/8 > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 > > Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 > > Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 > > Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 > > Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 > > Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 > > Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 > > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 3: emu10k1 [Multichannel > > Playback] > > Subdevices: 1/1 > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > card 0: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]], device 4: p16v [p16v] > > Subdevices: 1/1 > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > Quote: > > jeremy at Main:~$ lspci -v > > ***cut*** > > 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev > > 04) > > Subsystem: Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 193 > > I/O ports at e000 [size=64] > > Capabilities: > > ***cut*** > > Quote: > > ALSA Site - > > Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Value CA0108 Details (emu10k1) [ANio] [MIDIio] > > (1) (3) > > No 96khz 24Bit support. > > Quote: > > jeremy at Main:~$ sudo modprobe snd- > > ***cut*** > > snd-emu10k1 > > ***cut*** > > Quote: > > jeremy at Main:~$ sudo cat /etc/modules > > # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. > > # > > # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded > > # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored. > > > > lp > > psmouse > > sbp2 > > sr_mod > > snd-emu10k1 > > I dual boot so I know all the connections are good since I get sound in > > Windows. Also I have loaded amaroK as my music player and have installed the > > restricted drivers for mp3s and the like. > > > > Again, this was working up to about 2 hours ago. The only thing I > > changed in that time was trying to format a USB hard drive with GParted > > (installed w/ Synaptic) that failed. And the power saving options, which > > I've since turned off. > > > > I really need help, this was why I quit fedora to come here. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jeremy > > > Just went through the sound mixer and added all the options to my volume > menu. Turned them all up and unmuted all. Still nothing. > > However, now when I roll over the speaker it says 'HD SPDIF Front'. I'm > using 3 jacks out the back of my sound card for my speakers. Shouldn't I be > using something else for main out? > > Still no sound in Ubuntu as of 6 hours ago. Windows works fine. > > JT > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mas at mylug.org Sun Dec 24 10:50:52 2006 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:20:52 +0530 Subject: OpenOffice on edgy In-Reply-To: <1166895377.5263.2.camel@seafire> References: <20061223154501.GA2719@localhost.localdomain> <1166895377.5263.2.camel@seafire> Message-ID: <20061224105052.GA2935@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 12:36:17PM -0500, Torsten Spindler wrote: > > A quick google search revealed this message: > http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=58369 > Sorry. Searched the forums and did not find any answer. So posted it here. > Does the suggested solution work for you? > Removed ~/.openoffice-* and it is working fine. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 * wichert_ imagines master without a MTA wichert: ehm? that might hinder peformance of the BTS :p -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From towsonu2003 at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 11:25:41 2006 From: towsonu2003 at gmail.com (t u) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:25:41 -0500 Subject: openoffice problems on edgy Message-ID: <458E63B5.9080606@gmail.com> some users on ubuntuforums are reporting problems with updating their openoffice (in edgy I believe). Their thread is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322369 if you're having such a problem and you need openoffice back *now*, you might want to look at this thread, which includes instructions on how to install OOo in a local, firefox-style way without affecting apt/dpkg: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26173&highlight= and this is the bug report where a tar.gz installation approach is requested (in case you wonder) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=70436 (currently dupe & closed) have fun :) PS. I'm not subscribed here, please CC me if you'd like me to see your response :) -- Please scan all attachments for viruses. Or (though you might like Rodin) you might as well avoid "The Gates of Hell" and use Linux. From gholmer at ameritech.net Sun Dec 24 12:10:38 2006 From: gholmer at ameritech.net (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:10:38 -0600 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612240610.38946.gholmer@ameritech.net> On Friday 22 December 2006 13:01, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? The GNU implementation is incomplete, especially as regards Swing (the GUI classes): http://gcc.gnu.org/java/status.html -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html From dvdhldn at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 12:20:43 2006 From: dvdhldn at gmail.com (David Holden) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:20:43 +0000 Subject: Stopping nautilus managing the desktop Message-ID: Nautilus has a show stopper bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309592 which basically prevents me from moving and deleting certain files. As such I would like to switch to using Thunar. This page shows how to change the places links http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease but the desktop still seems to be managed by nautilus. Anyone know if its possible to change this? Cheers, Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gholmer at ameritech.net Sun Dec 24 12:22:47 2006 From: gholmer at ameritech.net (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:22:47 -0600 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG In-Reply-To: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> References: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200612240622.47712.gholmer@ameritech.net> On Friday 22 December 2006 15:10, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > GRUB should not be used as a boot manager. It is more a kernel > manager and should be allowed to manage the startup of only one > installation. I always install GRUB to the same partitions as root > (/). Rubbish. My test machine has a dozen operating systems including Linux distros, Plan9, Minix, and Zeta (BeOS), and GRUB handles all of them just fine. > An even more compelling example is the case I hit too many times. > 1. Install Windows (writes to MBR) > 2. Install Ubuntu (overwrites MBR) > 3. Install another Linux (overwrites MBR again) Most Linux distros will provide an entry to boot W****** when they install GRUB to the MBR. Since W****** is almost invariably installed to the first partition of the first drive, the syntax to boot it is root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 Not exactly rocket science. In step 3 above, you should tell the installer to put his copy of GRUB in the boot sector of the boot partition (of that install), not the MBR. Then you can do the same thing; e.g. if you installed another Linux distribution to /dev/hda4, the entry in the main GRUB's configuration file would be: root (hd0,3) chainloader +1 This also gives you the bonus of retaining each distro's boot splash screen. Each additional distro's GRUB menu can chain back to the main GRUB menu adding an entry that points back to the MBR's copy: root (hd0) chainloader +1 Beginning to see a pattern here? :) The chainloader syntax is also used for more exotic operating systems like Plan9. Another great thing about GRUB is that you can drop back to its command line to try out these commands by hand. Hit escape, then 'c' at the GRUB prompt sometime to try it; there's a "help" command and a "reboot" command if you get stuck. (From the command prompt, hit escape again to return to the menu.) http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/ -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html From funkytwig at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 12:50:11 2006 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:50:11 +0000 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB Message-ID: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> I have been trying to create big FAT32 partisions on a external USB drive. Wnen the partision is > 32GB windows can not read it. Maybe I am using the wrong mkfs, could slmeone please give me an exampls. Ben -- Ben Edwards - Brussels & Bristol, UK, England If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From jens at dataparty-mn.biz Sun Dec 24 13:06:55 2006 From: jens at dataparty-mn.biz (Jens Cedlind) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:06:55 +0100 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB In-Reply-To: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> References: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458E7B6F.2040109@dataparty-mn.biz> Ben Edwards wrote: > I have been trying to create big FAT32 partisions on a external USB > drive. Wnen the partision is > 32GB windows can not read it. Maybe I > am using the wrong mkfs, could slmeone please give me an exampls. > > Ben Common mistake is to forget the -F 32 option when using mkfs.vfat, might do the trick. (i.e. "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdXY" (where XY is the relevant disk/parition) /Jens From funkytwig at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 13:11:15 2006 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:11:15 +0000 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB In-Reply-To: <458E7B6F.2040109@dataparty-mn.biz> References: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> <458E7B6F.2040109@dataparty-mn.biz> Message-ID: <32b873ff0612240511n70249ao83935b8e24d9ad0b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I think that is it. Also what are the drawbacks of fat32 apart from performance. Am I correct there are issues with long filenames (seem to remember something about this). Ben On 24/12/06, Jens Cedlind wrote: > Ben Edwards wrote: > > I have been trying to create big FAT32 partisions on a external USB > > drive. Wnen the partision is > 32GB windows can not read it. Maybe I > > am using the wrong mkfs, could slmeone please give me an exampls. > > > > Ben > > Common mistake is to forget the -F 32 option when using mkfs.vfat, might > do the trick. > > > (i.e. "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdXY" (where XY is the relevant disk/parition) > > /Jens > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Ben Edwards - Brussels & Bristol, UK, England If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Sun Dec 24 13:46:23 2006 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:46:23 +0100 Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD In-Reply-To: <781142.36654.qm@web25501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <781142.36654.qm@web25501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <458E84AF.3040501@kaiser-linux.li> José Manuel Martínez Martínez wrote: > Hi Thomas, > My answer is in upper case in your message. Look at it below! > Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:11:52 +0100 > From: Thomas Kaiser > Subject: Re: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" > > Message-ID: <458D1D08.8070703 at kaiser-linux.li> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jos? Manuel Mart?nez Mart?nez wrote: >> Hi all, >> This is the first time I take part in this list (I've just joined it, >> indeed). I'm a newbie in Linux so I get lost just install it. >> I have a Toshiba laptop and recently bought an external 80GB HD. I >> downloaded a live cd of the 6.10 ubuntu distribution and I've installed >> it already (I created a NTFS partition, a ext3 and a swarp one. I've >> used the visual installation assistant. >> It seems to work fine BUT I've discovered that I need to have my >> external HD plugged any time I switch on my computer since otherwise >> GRUB says an error has happened and so on without giving me a chance to >> choose OS. Whereas if the external HD is plugged works fine (as I said). >> What I would like to do is to start my computer and have GURB working >> properly (or no GURB at all) when the external HD isn't plugged to the >> laptop, but when it is it should work. >> Any idea? Please, I don't know much about linux so an explanation for >> dummies would be really wonderful. >> Thank you very much! >> >> Pitragoras > > Hello Jose > > Just some questions on your setup to figure out what you need: > You did install Ubuntu on the external (USB) HD? YES > What is on your main HD? WINDOWS AND ALL MY FILES, PROGRAMS... > Where did you install GRUB? MBR? on which HD? NOW, I'M LOST. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN HD0 sda1 THE > INTERNAL HD I ASSUME > When you boot with the external HD plugged, do you boot from this HD? YES, AND IT WORKS FINE. > > NOW I TRIED TO MODIFY THINGS THROUGH THIS > IN TERMINAL I TYPED: > SUDO CHROOT /MEDIA/SDA1 > > AND THEN > > SUDO GRUB INSTALL HD0,0 > > AND NOW I CONTINUE LIKE BEFORE AND I CAN'T RUN WINDOWS EVEN WITH THE EXTERNAL HD PLUGGED. > > I'M REALLY WORRIED. > > ANY TIP? > > THANKS! > Regards, Thomas > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. > Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. > http://es.voice.yahoo.com > Hello Jose I assume you want to have the following setup: - if the external HD is NOT plugged, boot Windoz using the Windoz boot loader - if the external HD is plugged, boot directly from the USB Device with GRUB So, first we need to put back the Windoz boot loader to the internal HD. For this boot with the Windoz CD an go to recovery console. Run "fixboot" and "fixmbr" (or similar commands, I don't remember the correct names). This should reinstall the Windoz boot loader. Now, you should be able to boot Windoz again. Next, we need to put GRUB to the MBR of the external HD. Boot your computer with the Ubuntu Live/Installation CD. Plug in your external HD. If it does not mount automatically, you have to mount by hand: (I assume your external HD is /dev/sdb) sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 sudo chroot /media/sdb1 sudo grub install hd1 Now try to boot from the external HD. I hope this will solve this issue. Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr Sun Dec 24 14:34:36 2006 From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:34:36 +0100 Subject: Stopping nautilus managing the desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061224153436.3bb87dd3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> "David Holden" wrote: > but the desktop still seems to be managed by nautilus. > Anyone know if its possible to change this? Yes. First, you must stop Nautilus from starting when you log on: - Go to System->Preferences->Sessions - Click on "automatically save on log-out", so it remembers NOT to load Nautilus ext time you log-in - Select the "current session" tab - scroll down the list to find Nautilus, and select it - click on "remove" - log out and log in again, Nautilus should now not manage your desktop (since it's not loaded anymore) Then if you still want to start Nautilus (although I understand that's not your goal here ;-), start it with like this: nautilus --no-desktop this will prevent Nautilus from attempting to regain control of the desktop. HTH -- Vince From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Sun Dec 24 14:53:27 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:53:27 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 and compiz -HOWTO? Message-ID: <20061224085327.409f45fd@WizardsTower> I've gotten compiz installed from the repositories and windows now wobble but I can't seem to find how to do anything else. I'm anxious to see the desktop-changing cube and lots more of the eye candy but can't seem to scope it out. All the compiz instructions I've found are pertaining only to installation, not use. Does anybody know of any documentation for compiz use or is it too fast-moving a target just yet? Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From dvdhldn at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 15:07:14 2006 From: dvdhldn at gmail.com (David Holden) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:07:14 +0000 Subject: Stopping nautilus managing the desktop In-Reply-To: <20061224153436.3bb87dd3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> References: <20061224153436.3bb87dd3.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> Message-ID: Thanks this did the trick. The downside of course is I can't now drag links to the desktop but you can't have everything I suppose. Thanks for your help Dave. On 24/12/06, Vincent Trouilliez wrote: > > "David Holden" wrote: > > but the desktop still seems to be managed by nautilus. > > Anyone know if its possible to change this? > > Yes. > First, you must stop Nautilus from starting when you log on: > > - Go to System->Preferences->Sessions > > - Click on "automatically save on log-out", so it remembers NOT to load > Nautilus ext time you log-in > > - Select the "current session" tab > > - scroll down the list to find Nautilus, and select it > > - click on "remove" > > - log out and log in again, Nautilus should now not manage your desktop > (since it's not loaded anymore) > > > Then if you still want to start Nautilus (although I understand that's > not your goal here ;-), start it with like this: > > nautilus --no-desktop > > this will prevent Nautilus from attempting to regain control of the > desktop. > > HTH > > > -- > Vince > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From funkytwig at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 15:14:01 2006 From: funkytwig at gmail.com (Ben Edwards) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:14:01 +0000 Subject: mounting usb didgital camera Message-ID: <32b873ff0612240714v17c1fb76pc63d04662ef0e856@mail.gmail.com> When I connect my Cannon S3 IS unger gnome I can copy files off it OK but it does not create a mountpoint. Is there a way of doing this. I want to do it as I would like to copy pictures off the cameras on a system without gnome (its a mythtv pvr). Any ideas? Ben -- Ben Edwards - Brussels & Bristol, UK, England If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) From garryknight at gmx.net Sun Dec 24 15:23:13 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:23:13 +0000 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error References: <458DA5CA.5070407@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: Brian Fahrlander wrote: >> I'm not an expert on rsync or ssh, but this looks like an error >> returned by ssh. > Nope, you've got it, it's ssh. I confirmed that when I tried to ssh in as root. I get exactly the same error. I can ssh in as a user ok, though. > 1. Use RSA keys. I was intending to do just that, once I've got it working with basic authentication. > 2. I'm guessing that you're transferring files across an insecure > mechanism (otherwise ssh wouldn't be necessary). It's a home LAN with my laptop on a wireless link to my PC. My neighbours aren't tech-savvy in the slightest, and it's remote enough not to get hacked by drive-bys, but then that's the situation in which it's easy to get sloppy. > In the long term, SSH > is going to do a lot of expansion on the data to be moved; you might > want to turn up the compression a good bit. (1-Adam-12: see the man.) At the moment there's only about 3 GB of data to sync and it was running happily in the background, but I'll speed it up once I get it working. (I didn't get the Adam reference, though.) > Now, while the above isn't a solution to the exact message you're > getting, it's just possible that by switching to RSA keys, you can at > least _avoid_ the core problem. And in so doing, you make things both > quicker and safer, so it's a good idea. Well, here's what I've found in doing a little more digging around. My sync script was using sudo to call rsync. I want to run it as root so it has permission to change perms on the received files and directories. When I remove the sudo from the line, it works fine - for a regular user, although it gives me a lot of perms errors. It's when I run it as root (either directly or via sudo) that it gives me the "Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive)" error. One of the websites I found suggested I could get around the error by forcing SSL version 1 with "ssh -1 user at machine.name" and, though it doesn't result in the original error, it still throws out root's password. And this is what gave me the answer: I'd recently reinstalled Ubuntu on the PC and hadn't got around to giving root a password. As simple as that. Now I can ssh, scp, and rsync to my heart's content. Now I'll go back and set up RSA keys. > Thumbnail sketch: > > The user that's doing the ssh runs "ssh-keygen -t rsa". I know how it's done, but thanks for the recap. > There are _tons_ of RSA howtos. Yes, that's where I learned how. And in concentrating on the fine details of ssh and rsync, I'd overlooked what might have been obvious were it not for a somewhat misleading error message. Anyway, thanks for your help. Have a good Christmas. :-) -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From barrybyrne01 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Dec 24 15:38:38 2006 From: barrybyrne01 at yahoo.co.uk (barry) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:38:38 +0000 Subject: GREETINGS Message-ID: <1166974718.18152.2.camel@brush01uk-desktop> Happy Christmas and New Year to everyone on the list! :-) Barry (BRUSH01UK) From stanb at panix.com Sun Dec 24 16:25:01 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:25:01 -0500 Subject: Automounter Message-ID: <20061224162501.GA3823@teddy.fas.com> What's the deal with the autmouter in Ubuntu? Trying to do an apt-get install of amd results in a message that it's not avaialble, buut has bee supreceded by a package called am-utils. Looking in /usr/share/doc, I see no docs for this package. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From alexis.kotte at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 16:33:00 2006 From: alexis.kotte at gmail.com (Alexis Kotte) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:33:00 +0100 Subject: fglrx not starting when monitor is switched on Message-ID: Hello, on my edgy system there seems to be a problem when I use the fglrx driver: when my monitor is swtiched OFF while starting X, everything works nicely. However, when I have my monitor switched ON while starting X the screen blanks and the monitor complains that there is no signal. The log file complains about "PreInitDAL failed" and "R200PreInit failed" I have tried the ubuntu supplied fglrx driver as well as the one supplied by ATI, either way the problem arises. My monitor is a iiyama vision master Pro17 and my graphics card is reported as 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] (Secondary) by lspci. Has anybody else noticed this behaviour and possibly found a fix? Cheers, Alexis Kotte From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk Sun Dec 24 16:45:52 2006 From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:45:52 +0100 Subject: Grub and Gag In-Reply-To: <1375fd8a0612231808v78409b44lc23067cc5f4d8601@mail.gmail.com> References: <200612232037.kBNKauNB001169@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> <1375fd8a0612231808v78409b44lc23067cc5f4d8601@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166978752.23869.2.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 07:38 +0530, mehul wrote: > > > On 12/24/06, Trevor Nye wrote: > How do you load gag after an installation is already on the > drive. I just > tried it and overwrote the Ubuntu grub install. > > Install grub on the root partition of the distro. eg. if you have > Ubuntu on hda1, then install grub on hda1, too. Then install gag on > MBR of hda and point GAG to grub. If you need to make grub regenerate it's config files and install 'itself' in '/' then you'll need to look up in the manual commands like grub-install. That should get it working again. But that probelm you've just hit (overighting MBR with another app) is exactly why I never do it that way anymore. I hope using GAG makes your life a bit easier Duncan -- Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wizard If you want a usable compiz, you may find that the "gandalfn" repository gives you a more up to date and usable system (inc the compiz-tray-icon and preferences editor). Please see Works really well for me in Edgy on i386 (and with the same stuff compiled from source), on PPC. -jonathan From coldrick at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 17:57:34 2006 From: coldrick at gmail.com (David Coldrick) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 04:57:34 +1100 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: <200612240610.38946.gholmer@ameritech.net> References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <200612240610.38946.gholmer@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <98529bf40612240957g79e387b3x802e18338eaa35c0@mail.gmail.com> I'll second that. The GNU Java ain't Java: Java has a detailed testing process to ensure compatibility with the standard, and gcj has not been thru that. Anyway, as someone mentioned in this thread, the question will soon be moot, as Java is being open-sourced, and gcj will (I suspect) just fade away. In the meantime, using the multiverse packages (and ensuring that you do a command-line "update-alternatives --config java" to choose the right one) is the way to go. Regards, David On 12/24/06, Glenn Holmer wrote: > > On Friday 22 December 2006 13:01, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that > > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I > > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? > > The GNU implementation is incomplete, especially as regards Swing (the > GUI classes): > > http://gcc.gnu.org/java/status.html > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) > http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at fahrlander.net Sun Dec 24 18:27:19 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:27:19 -0600 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error In-Reply-To: References: <458DA5CA.5070407@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458EC687.6050704@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garry Knight wrote: > It's a home LAN with my laptop on a wireless link to my PC. My neighbours > aren't tech-savvy in the slightest, and it's remote enough not to get > hacked by drive-bys, but then that's the situation in which it's easy to > get sloppy. GOOD place for ssh! >> In the long term, SSH >> is going to do a lot of expansion on the data to be moved; you might >> want to turn up the compression a good bit. (1-Adam-12: see the man.) > > At the moment there's only about 3 GB of data to sync and it was running > happily in the background, but I'll speed it up once I get it working. (I > didn't get the Adam reference, though.) Iconic American TV show from the late '70s: "Adam 12". For some reason, every time they called this one police unit, they managed to say "1-adam-12: see the man, see the man". Just a geek-joke referring to man pages. :) > Anyway, thanks for your help. Have a good Christmas. :-) Well, I'm happy for ya! Have fun and merry Christmas! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFjsaH6PLtRzZbdhYRAuRsAJ0Ufg1D5gI0weEuAke8jQMB/MW3fQCdF9f5 dXwUb2mzd1YvwPajanAzAzk= =8nd4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Sun Dec 24 19:40:28 2006 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:40:28 +0000 Subject: GREETINGS In-Reply-To: <1166974718.18152.2.camel@brush01uk-desktop> References: <1166974718.18152.2.camel@brush01uk-desktop> Message-ID: <458ED7AC.1090004@googlemail.com> Barry wrote: > Happy Christmas and New Year to everyone on the list! :-) > > > Barry (BRUSH01UK) > Thanks Barry, And the same to you and everybody else on the list. Thanks for the help over the past year, often I haven't had to ask, the answers have been here before I knew I had a problem. SteVe From rufus at hanadari.net Sun Dec 24 19:51:08 2006 From: rufus at hanadari.net (Avraham Hanadari) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:51:08 +0200 Subject: Where are my partitions? Message-ID: <458EDA2C.3020705@hanadari.net> Hi! I've been away for a while. Now I'm back with 6.01. Last time around, I could look in Places and see all the partitions, so I knew the designations of the Windows partitions in order to mount them. Now there not there. Is there a new place, or is something broken? Avraham From dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com Sun Dec 24 19:53:12 2006 From: dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com (dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Auto detection Message-ID: <57428.198.246.249.35.1166989992.squirrel@webmail.rightturn-inc.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I base my assumptions on (for example): http://www.betanews.com/article/ Security_Vulnerability_Found_in_VMware/1135199548 and http://kb.vmware.com/vmtnkb/search.do? cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=2000&sliceId=SAL_Public Could you enlighten us please? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2474 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andy-mail at priorityonline.net Sun Dec 24 21:34:01 2006 From: andy-mail at priorityonline.net (Andy Millar) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:34:01 -0000 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <458EDA2C.3020705@hanadari.net> Message-ID: <20061224213403.8F866880445@gateway.sir-millar.com> Hi there, They are usually mounted in /media I think. Either there, or /mnt - Andy -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Avraham Hanadari Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:51 PM To: Ubuntu Users Subject: Where are my partitions? Hi! I've been away for a while. Now I'm back with 6.01. Last time around, I could look in Places and see all the partitions, so I knew the designations of the Windows partitions in order to mount them. Now there not there. Is there a new place, or is something broken? Avraham -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 24 22:09:40 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:09:40 -0600 Subject: Looking for "play" Message-ID: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> In the past, when I wanted to play a wav file from the command line, I invoked "play". I don't see that anywhere in the Ubuntu distribution. I've done an "apt-cache search" and "apt-file search" for it, and it doesn't show up. Is this program available anywhere in Ubuntu? If not, (a) what command line program is used in its place and/or (b) where would I find it to compile for myself? ---Michael From christofer.c.bell at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 22:15:27 2006 From: christofer.c.bell at gmail.com (Christofer C. Bell) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:15:27 -0600 Subject: Looking for "play" In-Reply-To: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> References: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> Message-ID: <143f0f6c0612241415u2f35ed1btf98e6d2469fb3355@mail.gmail.com> On 12/24/06, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > In the past, when I wanted to play a wav file from the command line, I > invoked "play". I don't see that anywhere in the Ubuntu distribution. > I've done an "apt-cache search" and "apt-file search" for it, and it > doesn't show up. > > Is this program available anywhere in Ubuntu? If not, (a) what command > line program is used in its place and/or (b) where would I find it to > compile for myself? There is a search feature for just this sort of thing on Ubuntu's website[1]. That being said, the program /usr/bin/play is found in the package sox in the Universe repository. [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/ -- Chris "George 'Macaca' Allen is like the place kicker that blew the winning field goal at the Super Bowl. He's why the Republicans lost control of the Senate." From electricalsciences at adelphia.net Sun Dec 24 22:19:23 2006 From: electricalsciences at adelphia.net (Roby) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:19:23 -0500 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB References: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> <458E7B6F.2040109@dataparty-mn.biz> <32b873ff0612240511n70249ao83935b8e24d9ad0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ben Edwards wrote: > Also what are the drawbacks of fat32 apart from performance. Am I > correct there are issues with long filenames (seem to remember > something about this). > > Ben My usb HD came with FAT32 format and I used it that way for almost three years. No probs with filenames, but I did suffer from bruises on my forehead. These from banging my head against the wall every time win2k's defrag program crashed while stirring around treasured backups. I switched to ext3. Bruises healed. For rare encounters with windows, I back up with Acronis TrueImage, which speaks ext3. From wade at wadesmart.com Sun Dec 24 22:50:47 2006 From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:50:47 -0600 Subject: help with OpenLaszlo installation Message-ID: <1167000647.6770.422.camel@wadesmart> 12242006 1630 GMT-6 Following the directions on this page: http://www.openlaszlo.org/node/350 I installed OpenLaszlo. Typing echo $JAVA_HOME does nothing on my system. Is a blank line. I did set the path to the sun sdk located at /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06 I then read this post for tomcat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheTomcat5?highlight=%28tomcat%29 but that didnt help me learn anything new. On this page: http://www.openlaszlo.org/node/351 it talks about running laszlo apps. If I navigate to the tomcat directory via command line as it says to start tomcat I receive: startup.sh: command not found. wadesmart at wadesmart:/usr/local/lps-3.3.3/Server/tomcat-5.0.24/bin$ ls bootstrap.jar commons-logging-api.jar setclasspath.sh startup.sh catalina.bat jmx.jar shutdown.bat tomcat5.exe catalina.sh jsvc.tar.gz shutdown.sh tomcat5w.exe commons-daemon.jar setclasspath.bat startup.bat but you can see it is in the directory. I put this: # Set the following to the Java 5 home directory JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre JAVA_BIN=$JAVA_HOME/bin PATH=$JAVA_BIN:$PATH in the bash.bashrc file. Im currently at a loss and do not know what to look for as to being wrong or what to do next. wade From pitragoras at yahoo.es Sun Dec 24 23:26:51 2006 From: pitragoras at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9=20Manuel=20Mart=EDnez=20Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:26:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD Message-ID: <20061224232652.56985.qmail@web25514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Thomas, Thank very much for your kind attention! I'd like to say everything is fixed but... I'm sorry, it isn't. Your assumption is absolutely right. That's what I want. I started with the steps you described. But I have a new problem. I runned fixmbr, but as result I've got an invalid partition table. The right command is fixboot. But it was to late. When I start my computer I can't boot windows because I get the following message: "Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE) v2.1 (C) Copyright 1997-2000 Intel Corporation PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM Invalid Partition table" I had in the internal HD just one partition. Now I would be glad at least to acces to the internal HD just to save some important files. If you can help me, I won't know how to pay you this favor back! Lots of thanks and Merry Xmas! Jose Hello Jose I assume you want to have the following setup: - if the external HD is NOT plugged, boot Windoz using the Windoz boot loader - if the external HD is plugged, boot directly from the USB Device with GRUB So, first we need to put back the Windoz boot loader to the internal HD. For this boot with the Windoz CD an go to recovery console. Run "fixboot" and "fixmbr" (or similar commands, I don't remember the correct names). This should reinstall the Windoz boot loader. Now, you should be able to boot Windoz again. Next, we need to put GRUB to the MBR of the external HD. Boot your computer with the Ubuntu Live/Installation CD. Plug in your external HD. If it does not mount automatically, you have to mount by hand: (I assume your external HD is /dev/sdb) sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 sudo chroot /media/sdb1 sudo grub install hd1 Now try to boot from the external HD. I hope this will solve this issue. Regards, Thomas ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Dec 25 00:28:47 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:28:47 -0600 Subject: BT downloads and options Message-ID: <458F1B3F.9000004@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For some reason...oh, yeah: it was because DemocracyPlayer stomped on the default handler (and does a poorer job, IMO) I don't know which of the several bt-something-er-other binaries that I should use when Firefox goes to get a torrent. Can someone who *hasn't* messed up their choice, let me know what the default is? Or maybe a personal choice that's even better? Thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFjxs+6PLtRzZbdhYRAmymAJ4sgdxKfKdM4xP+IL8Wmmwvum81twCfUrq4 3uWTMHtKdiQitD3+RfZqpj0= =RHgQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From txomix at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 00:42:49 2006 From: txomix at gmail.com (Jaume Aguilera Badia) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 01:42:49 +0100 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error In-Reply-To: References: <458DA5CA.5070407@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458F1E89.8080007@gmail.com> En/na Garry Knight ha escrit: > Brian Fahrlander wrote: > > >>> I'm not an expert on rsync or ssh, but this looks like an error >>> returned by ssh. >>> > > >> Nope, you've got it, it's ssh. >> > > I confirmed that when I tried to ssh in as root. I get exactly the same > error. I can ssh in as a user ok, though. > > >> 1. Use RSA keys. >> > > I was intending to do just that, once I've got it working with basic > authentication. > > >> 2. I'm guessing that you're transferring files across an insecure >> mechanism (otherwise ssh wouldn't be necessary). >> > > It's a home LAN with my laptop on a wireless link to my PC. My neighbours > aren't tech-savvy in the slightest, and it's remote enough not to get > hacked by drive-bys, but then that's the situation in which it's easy to > get sloppy. > > >> In the long term, SSH >> is going to do a lot of expansion on the data to be moved; you might >> want to turn up the compression a good bit. (1-Adam-12: see the man.) >> > > At the moment there's only about 3 GB of data to sync and it was running > happily in the background, but I'll speed it up once I get it working. (I > didn't get the Adam reference, though.) > > >> Now, while the above isn't a solution to the exact message you're >> getting, it's just possible that by switching to RSA keys, you can at >> least _avoid_ the core problem. And in so doing, you make things both >> quicker and safer, so it's a good idea. >> > > Well, here's what I've found in doing a little more digging around. My sync > script was using sudo to call rsync. I want to run it as root so it has > permission to change perms on the received files and directories. When I > remove the sudo from the line, it works fine - for a regular user, although > it gives me a lot of perms errors. It's when I run it as root (either > directly or via sudo) that it gives me the "Permission denied (publickey, > keyboard-interactive)" error. > > One of the websites I found suggested I could get around the error by > forcing SSL version 1 with "ssh -1 user at machine.name" and, though it > doesn't result in the original error, it still throws out root's password. > And this is what gave me the answer: I'd recently reinstalled Ubuntu on the > PC and hadn't got around to giving root a password. As simple as that. > > Now I can ssh, scp, and rsync to my heart's content. Now I'll go back and > set up RSA keys. > > >> Thumbnail sketch: >> >> The user that's doing the ssh runs "ssh-keygen -t rsa". >> > > I know how it's done, but thanks for the recap. > > >> There are _tons_ of RSA howtos. >> > > Yes, that's where I learned how. And in concentrating on the fine details of > ssh and rsync, I'd overlooked what might have been obvious were it not for > a somewhat misleading error message. > > Anyway, thanks for your help. Have a good Christmas. :-) > > If you want to connect by ssh with root id, you can enable it in the configuration file for sshd: /etc/ssh/sshd_config Add or uncomment this line: PermitRootLogin yes And then restart your sshd daemon. For debuging "obcure" authentication problems (if you try setting keys, agents, etc. and you are not succesful) you can try the following: On the "server" side run an ssh daemon in a different port than the standard and with debuging. If you choose something higher than 1024, you don't even need to be root. ( sshd -d -p 33333) On the "client" side, run an ssh client with the verbose flag, and remember to connect to the "testing" port. (ssh user at host -v -p 33333) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Dec 25 01:03:24 2006 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:03:24 -0500 Subject: Looking for "play" In-Reply-To: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> References: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> Message-ID: <20061224200324.3b5c5d4b@chisel> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > In the past, when I wanted to play a wav file from the command line, I > invoked "play". I don't see that anywhere in the Ubuntu distribution. > I've done an "apt-cache search" and "apt-file search" for it, and it > doesn't show up. > > Is this program available anywhere in Ubuntu? If not, (a) what command > line program is used in its place and/or (b) where would I find it to > compile for myself? The command you're searching for is probably 'aplay', but it certainly depends on your configuration. From the FWIW department, here's a script I find invaluable. Don't remember where it came from. Maybe the book "Wicked Cool Shell Scripts". It lists all exececutables in your $PATH and give a running count, but combined with some 'grep' magic it's a fine way to find certain types of files or related commands. Enjoy! ### BEGIN SCRIPT #!/bin/bash myPATH="$(echo $PATH | sed -e 's/ /~~/g' -e 's/:/ /g')" count=0 ; nonex=0 for dirname in $myPATH ; do directory="$(echo $dirname | sed 's/~~/ /g')" if [ -d "$directory" ] ; then for command in $(ls "$directory") ; do if [ -x "$directory/$command" ] ; then echo $directory/$command count="$(( $count + 1 ))" else nonex="$(( $nonex + 1 ))" fi done fi done echo "$count commands, and $nonex entires not marked executable" exit 0 ### END SCRIPT -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Registered Linux user #402208 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rufus at hanadari.net Mon Dec 25 04:02:53 2006 From: rufus at hanadari.net (Avraham Hanadari) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 06:02:53 +0200 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <20061224213403.8F866880445@gateway.sir-millar.com> References: <20061224213403.8F866880445@gateway.sir-millar.com> Message-ID: <458F4D6D.3010802@hanadari.net> I know where I need to mount them. In fact I've already made the windows directory in Media. I can't SEE the directories anywhere in order to know their names! In older versions of Ubuntu, there was a place where I could see ALL the HD, even though it wasn't accessible for any use. Where is that place? I must have access to my Fat partition, because that's where all my data is. Please tell me where I can see the entire HD. Avraham Andy Millar wrote: > Hi there, > > They are usually mounted in /media I think. > > Either there, or /mnt > > - Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Avraham Hanadari > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:51 PM > To: Ubuntu Users > Subject: Where are my partitions? > > Hi! > > I've been away for a while. Now I'm back with 6.01. Last time around, I > could look in Places and see all the partitions, so I knew the > designations of the Windows partitions in order to mount them. Now there > not there. Is there a new place, or is something broken? > > Avraham > > From spbasset at ptd.net Mon Dec 25 04:23:52 2006 From: spbasset at ptd.net (Simon Bassett) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:23:52 -0500 Subject: Looking for "play" In-Reply-To: <20061224200324.3b5c5d4b@chisel> References: <458EFAA4.4060503@weblore.com> <20061224200324.3b5c5d4b@chisel> Message-ID: <1167020632.10738.0.camel@linuxbox.bassett.org> Are you referring to /usr/bin/play that comes with sox? On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 20:03 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > In the past, when I wanted to play a wav file from the command line, I > > invoked "play". I don't see that anywhere in the Ubuntu distribution. > > I've done an "apt-cache search" and "apt-file search" for it, and it > > doesn't show up. > > > > Is this program available anywhere in Ubuntu? If not, (a) what command > > line program is used in its place and/or (b) where would I find it to > > compile for myself? > > The command you're searching for is probably 'aplay', but it certainly > depends on your configuration. > > From the FWIW department, here's a script I find invaluable. Don't > remember where it came from. Maybe the book "Wicked Cool Shell > Scripts". It lists all exececutables in your $PATH and give a running > count, but combined with some 'grep' magic it's a fine way to find > certain types of files or related commands. Enjoy! > > ### BEGIN SCRIPT > #!/bin/bash > > myPATH="$(echo $PATH | sed -e 's/ /~~/g' -e 's/:/ /g')" > count=0 ; nonex=0 > > for dirname in $myPATH ; do > directory="$(echo $dirname | sed 's/~~/ /g')" > if [ -d "$directory" ] ; then > for command in $(ls "$directory") ; do > if [ -x "$directory/$command" ] ; then > echo $directory/$command > count="$(( $count + 1 ))" > else > nonex="$(( $nonex + 1 ))" > fi > done > fi > done > > echo "$count commands, and $nonex entires not marked executable" > exit 0 > ### END SCRIPT > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Dec 25 04:54:33 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:54:33 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 and compiz -HOWTO? In-Reply-To: <20061224161652.5e97991e@eeyore.daria.co.uk> References: <20061224085327.409f45fd@WizardsTower> <20061224161652.5e97991e@eeyore.daria.co.uk> Message-ID: <20061224225433.4028418b@WizardsTower> Jonathan Hudson said: > If you want a usable compiz, you may find that the "gandalfn" > repository gives you a more up to date and usable system (inc the > compiz-tray-icon and preferences editor). > > Please see > > > Works really well for me in Edgy on i386 (and with the same stuff > compiled from source), on PPC. I've tried the gandalfn repository (twice now since your suggestion) and have found it doesn't work on my box. Could it be an ATI/nVidia difference? The Ubuntu repository version /does/ work for me but only wobbly windows and the tiling of windows within one desktop. I can't find how to work the cube, the annotation or any of the other 3d spiffies. I don't find a config package anywhere. Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net Mon Dec 25 06:13:13 2006 From: cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net (Cybe R. Wizard) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:13:13 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 6.10 and compiz -HOWTO? In-Reply-To: <20061224225433.4028418b@WizardsTower> References: <20061224085327.409f45fd@WizardsTower> <20061224161652.5e97991e@eeyore.daria.co.uk> <20061224225433.4028418b@WizardsTower> Message-ID: <20061225001313.263bebed@WizardsTower> "Cybe R. Wizard" said: [...] (compiz) > I don't find a config package anywhere. > > Cybe OK, too much holiday 'spirits,' I guess. Anyway, found me all sorts of documentation, of course. Cybe R. Wizard -sometimes just less than smart -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Dec 25 08:13:56 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:13:56 -0600 Subject: DVD *duplicating* ideas Message-ID: <458F8844.3070402@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a DVD that I like to hand out to people. It's duplication is encouraged; the originals are given out, free. I've been looking at standalone duplicators and thinking, "hey, I've got 5 workstations in the house- couldn't I do something like that?" I have one fast machine, a great OS, is there anything that burns disks, intended for mass copies, in Ubuntu? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFj4hE6PLtRzZbdhYRAi6NAJ0f+v3ambNxsFy3s68lYPn27aklDgCfcJWi 43Ew9LewOau1SrCPaYPBmwU= =TwEN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Mon Dec 25 08:15:34 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:15:34 -0600 Subject: DVD Authoring tools Message-ID: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've seen the DVD author program...reads like stereo instructions. Has anyone here used it? Could I somehow get it to read an existing DVD, and fiddle with that setup to make one of my own? Maybe someone has example project they could legally share for learning this tool? - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFj4im6PLtRzZbdhYRAoiiAJ9B1f7zq70tWWeeLPXTW4mllzbZCwCePGru iNliXQH7Mk6E/T6Py6b7bPo= =Z2++ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sebastjan.penko at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 08:40:47 2006 From: sebastjan.penko at gmail.com (seba) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:40:47 +0100 Subject: Where are my partitions? Message-ID: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> Try with fdisk -l in terminal window it should give you all the info you need. Otherwise you can install gparted with "sudo aptitude install gparted" an check in there. I know where I need to mount them. In fact I've already made the windows > directory in Media. I can't SEE the directories anywhere in order to > know their names! In older versions of Ubuntu, there was a place where I > could see ALL the HD, even though it wasn't accessible for any use. > Where is that place? I must have access to my Fat partition, because > that's where all my data is. Please tell me where I can see the entire HD. > > > Avraham > > > Andy Millar wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > They are usually mounted in /media I think. > > > > Either there, or /mnt > > > > - Andy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > > [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Avraham > Hanadari > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:51 PM > > To: Ubuntu Users > > Subject: Where are my partitions? > > > > Hi! > > > > I've been away for a while. Now I'm back with 6.01. Last time around, I > > could look in Places and see all the partitions, so I knew the > > designations of the Windows partitions in order to mount them. Now there > > not there. Is there a new place, or is something broken? > > > > Avraham > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From constantine at evanslabs.org Mon Dec 25 09:42:26 2006 From: constantine at evanslabs.org (Constantine Evans) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 01:42:26 -0800 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB In-Reply-To: <32b873ff0612240511n70249ao83935b8e24d9ad0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <32b873ff0612240450k741282c0hb8d7c697062f1ae7@mail.gmail.com> <458E7B6F.2040109@dataparty-mn.biz> <32b873ff0612240511n70249ao83935b8e24d9ad0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ben Edwards wrote: > Thanks, I think that is it. > > Also what are the drawbacks of fat32 apart from performance. Am I > correct there are issues with long filenames (seem to remember > something about this). > > Ben There are a variety of major drawbacks to using fat32. From Wikipedia's "Comparison of filesystems": * One cannot have files larger than 4 GiB. This is probably the largest drawback. With proper settings, ext3 can have files up to 2TiB in size. * There is no journaling support. This is very important for an external hard drive which might be accidentally disconnected. * Permissions are essentially nonexistent. * There is no support for sparse files, hard links, soft links, and so on. I would highly suggest that you consider using ext3 instead of fat32, especially for an external hard drive. The lack of journaling in FAT32 means that it is very easy to corrupt the filesystem and lose data if the device is accidentally disconnected, or if there is a power outage, or even if the system crashes. Furthermore, especially on a large external drive, it is quite possible that you will want to have files larger than 4 GiB. There is an excellent driver for ext2 in Windows which also works with ext3 at www.fs-driver.org, and I have used it extensively with reasonable results (it has a tendency to cause fsck to be run on ext3 partitions occasionally[1]). If you really must use a filesystem supported by a default Windows installation without the ext2 driver, then use NTFS. It has journaling, large file support, and reasonable, if experimental, support in Linux with ntfs-3g. Sincerely, Constantine Evans [1] I think this is due to it mounting the fs as ext2, and thus incrementing the mount count, which eventually triggers fsck. I remember dreading the periodic checks in the old days of Linux, since they seemed to take so terribly long at the time, much longer than now. From sjh at sjhserv.net Mon Dec 25 09:54:43 2006 From: sjh at sjhserv.net (Scott J. Henson) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 04:54:43 -0500 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <458F4D6D.3010802@hanadari.net> References: <20061224213403.8F866880445@gateway.sir-millar.com> <458F4D6D.3010802@hanadari.net> Message-ID: Avraham Hanadari wrote: > I know where I need to mount them. In fact I've already made the windows > directory in Media. I can't SEE the directories anywhere in order to > know their names! In older versions of Ubuntu, there was a place where I > could see ALL the HD, even though it wasn't accessible for any use. > Where is that place? I must have access to my Fat partition, because > that's where all my data is. Please tell me where I can see the entire HD. > I think your looking for "Computer" under Ubuntu (I don't know what it is under Kubuntu). Its under the "Places" menu, right next to the "Applications" menu, usually in the top, left part of the screen. I don't have a Windows partition, but thats where all my USB mass storage devices pop up and where I can get to the root partition in Nautilus. Also, you don't have to make the directory in media. It will usually make it for you. If you want to mount the filesystem in the terminal, the command you are looking for is 'pmount'. Supply it with the partition you want to mount, and it will create the directory in /media and mount the device with the proper permissions. Usually the partition is going to be named /dev/hdxy or /dev/sdxy. x being a letter, starting at a and corresponding to the hard drive. y being the partition, denoted by a number. 'pumount' is the corresponding unmount command when you want to unmount the partition. From asturiolists at gmx.net Mon Dec 25 10:00:28 2006 From: asturiolists at gmx.net (Claudio Clemens) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:00:28 +0100 Subject: Old pc faster than recent In-Reply-To: <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> References: <20061214100557.4fdf2be1@localhost> <20061214222220.576629bd@localhost> Message-ID: <20061225100028.GA10416@thorion.karameikos.my> Hi there, here is my X-Mas gift for you: 2006-12-14, 22:22 +0100, sebastien: > Thanks everyone ! > What a disappointment to have a 1 year old laptop > slower than an old 7 years old desktop... That reminds me : At which > point does the society of consumption does really benefit us ? ? Sure > those 2 products are different, but 7 years is a lot for computers... cat /proc/cpuinfo... you want do compare the bogomips... it's probably more accurate than comparing the frequence of both "different" processors. > Number of services on the laptop running 6.10 : that's a fact : a very > high amount of services is listed : a majority is checked (14 daemons), > and some not. Which ones can I safely deactivate to improve ? > > apmd (checked) I don't think, this is the problem. Just leave it there > powernowd (checked) This IS probably your problem. These just scale down your CPU. I can notice a big difference, when turning this off. sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop may help you. > I shall try XFCE on the laptop, in order to get a faster ubuntu, if > disabling more daemons do not enhance the performance. This could also help a little. But the real problem is above, the powernowd. HTH, Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Dipl.-Inf. Univ. Claudio Clemens |------| Sarge |-------+ | : :' : asturio at gmx (.) net GNU/Linux User #79942 | | `. `' http://asturio.gmxhome.de/begin.html | | `- "YE GODS, I HAVE FEET??!" <- Userfriendly | /=*=\ <--cuidado, se vc tivesse um TK85, isso seria uma nave inimiga! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From rufus at hanadari.net Mon Dec 25 10:23:35 2006 From: rufus at hanadari.net (Avraham Hanadari) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:23:35 +0200 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net> Why is this so difficult to understand? I must know the Linux names of the Windows partitions in order to mount them. I cannot know the names of the Windows partitions if I can't see them in a list somewhere. That information used to be readily available in earlier versions of Ubuntu. Where has it gone? It is NOT in my home folder. It is not among the various collections of folders. Is there a list somewhere? There used to be an application that showed the partitions as well. I have not been able to find it. Avraham From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 25 10:31:48 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:31:48 +0100 Subject: FAT32 partision > 32GB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200612251031.kBPAVqk4029892@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> Thank you for the pointer to the FS-Driver. I am surprised no one has mentioned it before. Good christmas and a prosperous 2007 to everyone From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Dec 25 11:54:45 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:54:45 +0100 Subject: DVD *duplicating* ideas In-Reply-To: <458F8844.3070402@fahrlander.net> References: <458F8844.3070402@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458FBC05.9070306@welcomes-you.com> Brian Fahrlander schrieb: > I have one fast machine, a great OS, is there anything that burns > disks, intended for mass copies, in Ubuntu? Well not in the strict sense I fear. I always use k3b (GUI frontend for various tools), where you can select the number of copies you want to do. What I would do is (1) Create a ISO image from the master (2) Copy this file to all workstations (3) run k3b on each machine to burn the DVDs (4) run around to change DVDs :) HTH Carsten From carsten at welcomes-you.com Mon Dec 25 11:58:04 2006 From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:58:04 +0100 Subject: DVD Authoring tools In-Reply-To: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net> References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> Brian Fahrlander schrieb: > > I've seen the DVD author program...reads like stereo instructions. > Has anyone here used it? Could I somehow get it to read an existing DVD, > and fiddle with that setup to make one of my own? Fiddling with an existing DVD I would say: not much of a chance. I've tried, it's extremely versatile but quite a pain to use. After trying various tools I'm using dvdstyler which is easy to use and offers enough things for me to create a new DVD quite fast[1] YMMV. Hint: Don't use the one packaged in dapper/egdy and compile the version from upstream yourself, since there are some issues and missing features I found quite handy. HTH Carsten [1] Although I'm using this just to burn recorded TV shows to DVD and create a simple navigation menu for it. From morphyusx at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 11:58:51 2006 From: morphyusx at gmail.com (morphex) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:58:51 +0100 Subject: fglrx files Message-ID: <1167047931.4735.14.camel@morphex-laptop> Merry Christmas for everyone! Can someone post me their ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/; ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/; ls -l /usr/lib/fglrx/; ls -l /usr/X11/lib/; ls -l /usr/X11/lib/modules , please ? When I upgraded to edgy, I managed to get work my video card with edgy's fglrx. Then I wanted to look at that Beryl thing, so I installed the open-source radeon driver, because Beryl needs `Composite "1"` in xorg.conf, but there is no direct rendering for fglrx with this option. Ok, I sadly noticed that there is no acceleration for my Xpress 200M. Now I want to get back the fglrx accel. I found some good how-to-s, but either of them could help me. I can't modprobe fglrx and drm at the same time. Thanks, Bálint Fodor From housam59 at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 12:06:08 2006 From: housam59 at gmail.com (housam marzouk) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:06:08 +0200 Subject: modem not responding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Bill. it worked. housam On 12/23/06, Bill Marcum wrote: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:52:57 +0200, housam marzouk > wrote: > > --> Waiting for carrier. > > ATDT07770777 > > CONNECT 50667 > > --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. > > ** Welcome ** > > ascend% > > --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". > > ppp > > PPP: Not enabled > > Wvdial waits for a prompt, then your ISP sends a prompt that wvdial > doesn't understand. Try putting "Stupid Mode" in /etc/wvdial.conf > This tells wvdial not to wait for the prompt. > > > -- > There are no threads in a.b.p.erotica, so there's no gain in using a > threaded news reader. > (Unknown source) > > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 25 14:10:58 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:10:58 +0000 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612200457k233e4a6t8981f4cc5619211@mail.gmail.com> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061218203801.3c2d7024.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <78d24f7a0612200457k233e4a6t8981f4cc5619211@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1167055858.5989.0.camel@worldventures> How does one go about enabling remote administration of CUPS? Thanks, Gabe From mas at mylug.org Mon Dec 25 14:41:51 2006 From: mas at mylug.org (Sridhar M.A.) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:11:51 +0530 Subject: fglrx files In-Reply-To: <1167047931.4735.14.camel@morphex-laptop> References: <1167047931.4735.14.camel@morphex-laptop> Message-ID: <20061225144151.GA3905@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Dec 25, 2006 at 12:58:51PM +0100, morphex wrote: > > Can someone post me their ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/; ls > -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/; ls -l /usr/lib/fglrx/; ls -l /usr/X11/lib/; > ls -l /usr/X11/lib/modules , please ? > Here is it: /usr/lib/fglrx/: total 436 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 28 18:21 libGL.so.1.2 -> ../libGL.so.1.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 445328 Oct 12 09:23 libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Oct 28 13:15 libGL.so.1.xlibmesa -> libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/xorg/: total 1 drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 936 Dec 3 13:28 modules/ /usr/lib/xorg/modules/: total 4651 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1432 Dec 24 10:56 drivers/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 272 Oct 28 13:33 extensions/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 Oct 28 13:33 fonts/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 280 Oct 28 13:33 input/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150264 Oct 16 05:34 libafb.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 301327 Oct 16 05:34 libcfb.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 148713 Oct 16 05:34 libcfb16.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115155 Oct 16 05:34 libcfb32.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25418 Oct 16 05:34 libddc.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48380 Oct 16 05:34 libexa.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 253593 Oct 16 05:34 libfb.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11165 Oct 16 05:34 libi2c.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32020 Oct 16 05:34 libint10.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134986 Oct 16 05:34 libmfb.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 737304 Oct 16 05:34 libpcidata.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18026 Oct 16 05:34 librac.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32188 Oct 16 05:34 libramdac.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1689067 Oct 16 05:34 libscanpci.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21820 Oct 16 05:34 libshadow.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27366 Oct 16 05:34 libshadowfb.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22858 Oct 16 05:34 libvbe.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27810 Oct 16 05:34 libvgahw.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 342930 Oct 16 05:34 libxaa.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 159960 Oct 16 05:34 libxf1bpp.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 95554 Oct 16 05:34 libxf4bpp.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 157771 Oct 16 05:34 libxf8_16bpp.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 163152 Oct 16 05:34 libxf8_32bpp.so drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 Dec 24 10:56 linux/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 384 Dec 8 08:44 multimedia/ > When I upgraded to edgy, I managed to get work my video card with edgy's > fglrx. Then I wanted to look at that Beryl thing, so I installed the > open-source radeon driver, because Beryl needs `Composite "1"` in > xorg.conf, but there is no direct rendering for fglrx with this option. > Ok, I sadly noticed that there is no acceleration for my Xpress 200M. > Now I want to get back the fglrx accel. > I found some good how-to-s, but either of them could help me. > I can't modprobe fglrx and drm at the same time. > I too have a radeon Xpress 200M on my notebook. But trying to install the latest driver from ati as mentioned in the forum succeeded; but 3D was dead. That card is a pain. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 While my BRAINPAN is being refused service in BURGER KING, Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 25 14:42:02 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:42:02 +0000 Subject: HP Printer on Edgy In-Reply-To: <1167055858.5989.0.camel@worldventures> References: <78d24f7a0612180927l3ad9f4e1ua7404b0ef5ad7585@mail.gmail.com> <1166466326.4752.56.camel@localhost> <20061218195346.d945c9ed.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <20061218203801.3c2d7024.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr> <78d24f7a0612200457k233e4a6t8981f4cc5619211@mail.gmail.com> <1167055858.5989.0.camel@worldventures> Message-ID: <1167057722.7739.2.camel@worldventures> On Mon, 2006-12-25 at 14:10 +0000, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > How does one go about enabling remote administration of CUPS? > > Thanks, > Gabe > > I mean, I have an Ubuntu server system running, doing various things like ftp, nfs etc and now I installed cups. But it has no graphical environment like gnome and I can connect to it's cups web page after changing ports.conf but the administration tabs tells me forbidden. The ubuntu wiki seems devoid of relevant entry, so I'm hoping someone can tell me how to make cups let me login etc. Many thanks, and merry xmas! Gabe From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 14:48:49 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:48:49 +0100 Subject: Trying to install a Minolta 2300W laser printer on Ubuntu Message-ID: <458FE4D1.5090707@gmail.com> I get all the way through the install wizard seemingly identiying the (USB)printer, but when clicking apply, it hangs there for a minute and then exits without adding it to the list of printers. This is what prints out in the terminal: ---- ** (gnome-cups-add:5046): WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'cdj550' ->foomatic:HP-DeskJet_932C-cdj550.ppd (HP DeskJet 932C Foomatic/cdj550[0]) and ->foomatic:HP-DeskJet_932C-cdj550.ppd (HP DeskJet 932C Foomatic/cdj550)[0] Selected ppd file = foomatic:Minolta-Color_PageWorks_Pro_L-foo2zjs.ppd Selected ppd file = foomatic:Minolta-magicolor_2300W-m2300w.ppd ** (gnome-cups-add:5046): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 ---- Happy for any help /Björn Ottervik From ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li Mon Dec 25 15:43:32 2006 From: ubuntu at kaiser-linux.li (Thomas Kaiser) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 16:43:32 +0100 Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD In-Reply-To: <20061224232652.56985.qmail@web25514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061224232652.56985.qmail@web25514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <458FF1A4.5010302@kaiser-linux.li> José Manuel Martínez Martínez wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Thank very much for your kind attention! > I'd like to say everything is fixed but... I'm sorry, it isn't. > Your assumption is absolutely right. That's what I want. > I started with the steps you described. But I have a new problem. > I runned fixmbr, but as result I've got an invalid partition table. The right command is fixboot. > But it was to late. When I start my computer I can't boot windows because I get the following > message: > "Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE) v2.1 > (C) Copyright 1997-2000 Intel Corporation > PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable > PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM > Invalid Partition table" Hello Jose I don't know what happened to your MBR :-( "fixmbr" should fix this, at least the boot code. But there are some information about the partition table in the MBR. So, it looks like this is broken for some strange reason. "fixmbr" should fix the MBR and "fixboot" should fix the partition boot sector. "fixmbr" and "fixboot" worked always for me in the past. Check http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/ on how to build a boot floppy. Maybe this helps. If you know the partition layout you have, you could re-partition the disk with exactly the same partition layout you had. This can be done with "fdisk". "fdisk" will only touch the partition table, so it should be save to not destroy your data. But I think it is a high risk to do this. On the other hand, if you write the same partition table like you had before, every thing should be ok again (in theory). Sorry, it is hard for me to figure out the right strategy for your problem, right now :-( You could browse the nu2.nu site, here are a lot of information about booting and helpful tools. I hope you get this issue fixed. Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li From cb at lim.nl Mon Dec 25 16:25:21 2006 From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:25:21 +0100 Subject: BT downloads and options In-Reply-To: <458F1B3F.9000004@fahrlander.net> References: <458F1B3F.9000004@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: On 12/25/06, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Can someone who *hasn't* messed up their choice, let me know what > the default is? gnome-btdownload -- Colin Brace Amsterdam From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 25 15:55:22 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:55:22 -0400 Subject: Making a CD recorder work References: <20061220191141.GA8253@teddy.fas.com> <4589F0EE.5080203@dslextreme.com> <20061221112223.GA2040@teddy.fas.com> <458AB4DA.60701@dslextreme.com> <20061221210016.GA25318@teddy.fas.com> <458B01E7.30302@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Darlene Wallach wrote: > btw, when I want to burn CDs with audio files, I use mkisofs > first, then I use cdrecord to burn the iso onto CD. I have not > tried your method. I just use k3b - when it _doesn't_ work, the debugging info is usually pretty instructive :-) -- derek From ljpino at grm.net Mon Dec 25 17:34:40 2006 From: ljpino at grm.net (Lorin Pino) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:34:40 -0600 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net> References: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> <458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net> Message-ID: <45900BB0.8060609@grm.net> Avraham Hanadari wrote: > Why is this so difficult to understand? I must know the Linux names of > the Windows partitions in order to mount them. I cannot know the names > of the Windows partitions if I can't see them in a list somewhere. That > information used to be readily available in earlier versions of Ubuntu. > Where has it gone? It is NOT in my home folder. It is not among the > various collections of folders. Is there a list somewhere? There used to > be an application that showed the partitions as well. I have not been > able to find it. > > Avraham > > I have not followed this whole thread, so this may have been posted before. Is System>Administration>Disks what you are looking for? It brings up a list of drives. When you click on the drive you want to see, it displays general info on that drive. There is also a tab to look at the partitions on that drive. The first screen lists the name of the drive (/dev/hda for example). The second screen shows a list of partitions on that drive. If you click on a partition it should give you the path to that partition. You can also enable/disable partitions on that screen. Good Luck! ~Lorin From bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 18:08:27 2006 From: bjorn.ottervik at gmail.com (Bjoern Ottervik) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:08:27 +0100 Subject: Trying to install a Minolta 2300W laser printer on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <458FE4D1.5090707@gmail.com> References: <458FE4D1.5090707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4590139B.7040703@gmail.com> Never mind. I'll remember searching launchpad first next time. :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/29966 Bjoern Ottervik wrote: > I get all the way through the install wizard seemingly identiying the > (USB)printer, but when clicking apply, it hangs there for a minute and > then exits without adding it to the list of printers. > This is what prints out in the terminal: > > ---- > > ** (gnome-cups-add:5046): WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'cdj550' > ->foomatic:HP-DeskJet_932C-cdj550.ppd (HP DeskJet 932C > Foomatic/cdj550[0]) and > ->foomatic:HP-DeskJet_932C-cdj550.ppd (HP DeskJet 932C > Foomatic/cdj550)[0] > Selected ppd file = foomatic:Minolta-Color_PageWorks_Pro_L-foo2zjs.ppd > Selected ppd file = foomatic:Minolta-magicolor_2300W-m2300w.ppd > > ** (gnome-cups-add:5046): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 > > ---- > > Happy for any help > /Björn Ottervik > From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 19:06:25 2006 From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 03:06:25 +0800 Subject: An update repository for a custom distro? Message-ID: Hi, I have a custom distro, that have alot of customize packages, I would like to use the Ubuntu repository for the updates, but I'm afraid that the customize packages would be replaced with the ubuntu packages upon update, I'm wondering how will I use the Ubuntu repository without the customize packages be replaced with the ubuntu version? Is it possible? If not, updates and g-a-i will be nothing at all (for now) :-( Regards, Joel -- Happy Holidays! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diesch at spamfence.net Sat Dec 23 22:31:38 2006 From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:31:38 +0100 Subject: Rootkit Hunter In-Reply-To: <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> (Brian Fahrlander's message of "Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:48:46 -0600") References: <33078.8233.qm@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> <424BBC42-4066-44A6-B4A6-D4DCAB227B13@openforce.com> <1375fd8a0612221920ra5f5555r414884f07177465d@mail.gmail.com> <3965A576-B4F6-45ED-BB7B-DFEADC816311@openforce.com> <458D098E.7060800@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <87y7oy452t.fsf@spamfence.net> Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Martin Marcher wrote: > >> afaik, unix rootkits aren't quite the same as windows viruses most of >> them are carefully handcrafted and targeted at being invisible and also >> keeping a backdoor open, not doing something that would kills your data. > > Has anyone written a root kit as a 'hypervisor', to keep an eye on a > Linux box? A white-hat tool for overseeing the whole show, so such a > program can't be installed? That has to be done at kernel level. There are kernel security enhancements like SELinux where you can restrict even root's privileges and this way make it impossible for an attacker to install anything. Of course this means that you have to reboot anytime before and after updating or installing software. There are other tools like samhain that try to detect at least if someone is intruding you system. Florian -- From pitragoras at yahoo.es Mon Dec 25 19:13:54 2006 From: pitragoras at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9=20Manuel=20Mart=EDnez=20Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:13:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: Installing Ubuntu in an external HD Message-ID: <20061225191354.8750.qmail@web25512.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Thomas, It is quite strange 'cos I also found directions like yours in another forum and people say it works. Anyway, I've managed to rescue all my windows files (that's a very important step) and I will search in the link you recommend. Happily, I friend of my brother is a computer science student and an intensive linux user, he is helping me a bit so I hope to finish soon with this nightmare. I'll tell you about it. And thank you very much for your kind help! Best regards, Jose ===== Thomas wrote: Hello Jose I don't know what happened to your MBR :-( "fixmbr" should fix this, at least the boot code. But there are some information about the partition table in the MBR. So, it looks like this is broken for some strange reason. "fixmbr" should fix the MBR and "fixboot" should fix the partition boot sector. "fixmbr" and "fixboot" worked always for me in the past. Check http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/ on how to build a boot floppy. Maybe this helps. If you know the partition layout you have, you could re-partition the disk with exactly the same partition layout you had. This can be done with "fdisk". "fdisk" will only touch the partition table, so it should be save to not destroy your data. But I think it is a high risk to do this. On the other hand, if you write the same partition table like you had before, every thing should be ok again (in theory). Sorry, it is hard for me to figure out the right strategy for your problem, right now :-( You could browse the nu2.nu site, here are a lot of information about booting and helpful tools. I hope you get this issue fixed. Regards, Thomas -- http://www.kaiser-linux.li ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From garryknight at gmx.net Mon Dec 25 19:26:49 2006 From: garryknight at gmx.net (Garry Knight) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:26:49 +0000 Subject: rsync over OpenSSH error References: <458DA5CA.5070407@fahrlander.net> <458F1E89.8080007@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jaume Aguilera Badia wrote: > If you want to connect by ssh with root id ... > PermitRootLogin yes Thanks, I have that line already. > For debuging "obcure" authentication problems Thanks for the advice. -- Garry Knight garryknight at gmx.net From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 25 19:13:01 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:13:01 -0400 Subject: broke package References: <1166823937.29184.14.camel@localhost> <20061223075308.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com> Message-ID: ben darby wrote: > * John Dangler wrote: >> After upgrading from breezy to dapper on our production server, >> everything seems to be running except spamassassin. >> However, on trying to remove it, I get this - >> >> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassassin >> E: Invalid operation spamassassin > > you forgot the 'remove' command > # apt-get --purge remove spamassassin > aptitude is soooo much more logical: aptitude purge spamassassin -- derek From rufus at hanadari.net Mon Dec 25 19:30:16 2006 From: rufus at hanadari.net (Avraham Hanadari) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:30:16 +0200 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <45900BB0.8060609@grm.net> References: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> <458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net> <45900BB0.8060609@grm.net> Message-ID: <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net> Not on my version of Ubuntu. There's something called Device Manager, but it just lists the Windows name of the Windows data partition. I'm giving up. I guess I'm still not ready for Linux ... or Linux isn't ready for my desktop. Avraham Lorin Pino wrote: > Avraham Hanadari wrote: >> Why is this so difficult to understand? I must know the Linux names of >> the Windows partitions in order to mount them. I cannot know the names >> of the Windows partitions if I can't see them in a list somewhere. That >> information used to be readily available in earlier versions of Ubuntu. >> Where has it gone? It is NOT in my home folder. It is not among the >> various collections of folders. Is there a list somewhere? There used to >> be an application that showed the partitions as well. I have not been >> able to find it. >> >> Avraham >> >> > I have not followed this whole thread, so this may have been posted > before. Is System>Administration>Disks what you are looking for? It > brings up a list of drives. When you click on the drive you want to > see, it displays general info on that drive. There is also a tab to > look at the partitions on that drive. The first screen lists the name > of the drive (/dev/hda for example). The second screen shows a list of > partitions on that drive. If you click on a partition it should give > you the path to that partition. You can also enable/disable partitions > on that screen. > Good Luck! > ~Lorin > From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 25 19:20:27 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:20:27 -0400 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 23/12/06, Martin Marcher wrote: >> >> Am 22.12.2006 um 20:01 schrieb Dotan Cohen: >> >> > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that >> > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I >> > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective? >> >> referencing your next sentence you are not a normal user (university >> work) most users don't even know what java is. And if your university >> expects you to do homework/seminar/whatever work in java, save >> yourself the hassle and use Sun's java. > > Oh, university work is not considered normal? I didn't think so, either :) > I think that most people do in fact know what java is, at least those > who know what a mouse is, and what Firefox is. I don't consider the > uneducated-and-don't-want-to-learn as normal users. Huh? _educated_ people still can't seem to grasp the difference between Java and Javascript. So, no, normal users don't generally have a clue what Java is. "Normal" users don't have a clue what programming languages are, because "normal" users don't program. -- derek From stanb at panix.com Mon Dec 25 19:38:41 2006 From: stanb at panix.com (stan) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:38:41 -0500 Subject: Web based Music Collection manager Message-ID: <20061225193841.GA10830@teddy.fas.com> I just discoerd Amarok. I'ts wonderful. But I'd like to be able to hhave something similar available remotely. Is there a web based music collection manager, with at least some of this tools functionality? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 25 19:25:35 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:25:35 -0400 Subject: GRUB vs. GAG References: <1166821853.6140.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Duncan Lithgow wrote: > You'll keep getting lots of people telling you how to avoid and fix this > problem using GRUB. Those solutions work but they're hard to learn and Not... > in my opinion messy. Here's my view: > > GRUB should not be used as a boot manager. It is more a kernel manager > and should be allowed to manage the startup of only one installation. I > always install GRUB to the same partitions as root (/). > > GAG is a boot manager which sticks to it's job. It installs in MBR and > you just point it to any bootable partition - then GRUB or whatever can > take it from there. > > Why do it this way? > > If you (re)install anything which spoils you MBR you just reinstall GAG > and point it to the bootable partitions your using. Boot with Kubuntu live CD (probably just as easy with Ubuntu, but I haven't done it). Go to console: # sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt # grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --no-floppy (hd0) That wasn't so hard, was it? That said, I _do_ understand what you're saying about gag, and it bears looking into :-) -- derek From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 25 19:47:47 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:47:47 +0100 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net> Message-ID: <200612251948.kBPJlur7005265@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> Avraham, do not give up the next week will sort out your problem. It is worth the toil From mario.vukelic at dantian.org Mon Dec 25 19:54:47 2006 From: mario.vukelic at dantian.org (Mario Vukelic) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:54:47 +0100 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net> References: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com> <458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net> <45900BB0.8060609@grm.net> <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net> Message-ID: <1167076487.4914.3.camel@chronic> On Mon, 2006-12-25 at 21:30 +0200, Avraham Hanadari wrote: > Not on my version of Ubuntu. Someone else already recommended to you to install gparted. You should follow this advice. After installing you will have an entry System/Administration/Gnome Partition Editor. This is on Ubuntu 6.10. Version 6.06 by default has System/Administration/Disks instead, which is also gparted. For some reason it was removed from the 6.10 default install. From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 25 19:54:06 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:54:06 +0100 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net> Message-ID: <200612251954.kBPJsVYp013569@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com> I am just booting up my laptop with dual boot on it. I will try to help you. I came in at the end of your mailing sorry. What do you want to do, send me copies of your original mail. From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk Mon Dec 25 20:05:54 2006 From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:05:54 +0100 Subject: Where are my partitions? In-Reply-To: <1167076487.4914.3.camel@chronic> Message-ID: <200612252006.kBPK6JpO008222@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com> I realise that this is not the most elegant version but. 1. use gparted as already advised. 2. Install samba 3. make the windows partition a shared partition and you can see all of your folders in windows. Is that what you want From sergicles at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 20:36:29 2006 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:36:29 +1100 Subject: Web based Music Collection manager In-Reply-To: <20061225193841.GA10830@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061225193841.GA10830@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <1680c5ca0612251236g1dc9b158kb4a1b6f5964cda56@mail.gmail.com> On that note is there a web based music collection manager? No need for playing streams, etc. Just manage a music collection. On 26/12/06, stan wrote: > > I just discoerd Amarok. I'ts wonderful. But I'd like to be able to hhave > something similar available remotely. Is there a web based music > collection > manager, with at least some of this tools functionality? > > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > -- Serg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 20:37:08 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:37:08 +0200 Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better? In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com> On 25/12/06, Derek Broughton wrote: > Huh? _educated_ people still can't seem to grasp the difference between > Java and Javascript. So, no, normal users don't generally have a clue what > Java is. "Normal" users don't have a clue what programming languages are, > because "normal" users don't program. Do normal people not know the difference between a gearbox and an exhaust pipe because they are not mechanics? Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_cellphone.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/263/iglesias_enrique.php From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 20:43:22 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:43:22 +0200 Subject: mms protocol with Wget Message-ID: <880dece00612251243p6b44bfebvb7bc88a84a8a3b5b@mail.gmail.com> I need to get a few files from a media server that uses Microshaft's mms protocol. How can I configure wget to get them for me? It complains that the addresses are not ftp or http addresses. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/234/gray_macy.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html From jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk Mon Dec 25 20:48:40 2006 From: jh+ubuntu at daria.co.uk (Jonathan Hudson) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:48:40 +0000 Subject: mms protocol with Wget References: <880dece00612251243p6b44bfebvb7bc88a84a8a3b5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061225204840.0aed8cee@eeyore.daria.co.uk> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:43:22 +0200 "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > I need to get a few files from a media server that uses Microshaft's > mms protocol. How can I configure wget to get them for me? It > complains that the addresses are not ftp or http addresses. Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen s/wget/mplayer/ ... something like: mplayer -playlist -dumpstream -dumpfile fugly.proprietary.stuff mms://foo.bar.baaz From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 20:52:07 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:52:07 +0200 Subject: Home IMAP server Message-ID: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away. What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/css.html http://dotancohen.com/howto/root_email.php From dragffy at yandex.ru Mon Dec 25 21:34:00 2006 From: dragffy at yandex.ru (Gabriel Dragffy) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:34:00 +0000 Subject: MIDI and Kguitar Message-ID: <1167082440.5349.8.camel@worldventures> Trying to use Kguitar but every time I try to play something it complains it can't find a MIDI device. I tried a howto off the net but it was old and the computer froze. I have also tried using easyubuntu to automatically get MIDI working but Kguitar still can't use it. Please, does someone know what to do to make Kguitar happy? Best regards, Gabe From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 21:39:50 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:39:50 +0200 Subject: mms protocol with Wget In-Reply-To: <20061225204840.0aed8cee@eeyore.daria.co.uk> References: <880dece00612251243p6b44bfebvb7bc88a84a8a3b5b@mail.gmail.com> <20061225204840.0aed8cee@eeyore.daria.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00612251339x2440e6elff32b53f9d691a12@mail.gmail.com> On 25/12/06, Jonathan Hudson wrote: > On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:43:22 +0200 > "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > > > I need to get a few files from a media server that uses Microshaft's > > mms protocol. How can I configure wget to get them for me? It > > complains that the addresses are not ftp or http addresses. Thanks. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > s/wget/mplayer/ ... something like: > > mplayer -playlist -dumpstream -dumpfile fugly.proprietary.stuff > mms://foo.bar.baaz > Thanks, I'll give that a shot tomorrow at the uni. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/css.html http://dotancohen.com/howto/root_email.php From dontodd at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 22:00:23 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:00:23 -0500 Subject: Web based Music Collection manager In-Reply-To: <20061225193841.GA10830@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061225193841.GA10830@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612251400r465c7a1fibbf99508a041e267@mail.gmail.com> On 12/25/06, stan wrote: > I just discoerd Amarok. I'ts wonderful. But I'd like to be able to hhave > something similar available remotely. Is there a web based music collection > manager, with at least some of this tools functionality? If you're on the same network, you can share music using Amarok|Rhythmbox|Banshee...or just set up a DAAP server yourself, like Firefly Media Server. Theoretically you can tunnel and access a DAAP share over SSH, but I've never tried. Another option is some Apache set up, like mod_mp3 (http://tangent.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=478&node_id=380). There are a few projects you could check out, like Zina (http://www.pancake.org/zina), Ampache (http://ampache.kveton.com/), or check this list: http://www.mp3-howto.com/mp3-howto-12.html. HTH, Todd From dontodd at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 23:34:43 2006 From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:34:43 -0500 Subject: Home IMAP server In-Reply-To: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612251534p5d263c5do9dd13e8c67d320b4@mail.gmail.com> On 12/25/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to > an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in > Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away. > > What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I > know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks. I would look at Dovecot as it's pretty easy to set up and is supposed to be faster and less resource intensive compared to Cyrus, Courier, or UW. I haven't used the others to compare. Todd From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com Mon Dec 25 23:40:46 2006 From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:40:46 -0500 Subject: Home IMAP server In-Reply-To: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061225184046.540cad61@chisel> Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to > an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in > Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away. > > What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I > know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks. I've run Postfix/Dovecot under Fedora Core 3 and now Postfix/Courier under 6.06.1 Server with a typical ISP account as a "smart host" relay, probably for many of the same reasons you're wanting to do it. ;) Off the cuff laypersons opinion is that Courier is a little easier to set up, but I was using an older version of Postfix under Core 3. Most of the minor problems I had getting (secure) remote mail access up and running were TLS/SSL issues, and 100% Postfix. Still, I prefer Postfix to any of the alternatives. :) Anyway, here's a couple links I found most useful... http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6 http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (o o) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Registered Linux user #402208 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sjh at sjhserv.net Tue Dec 26 02:50:20 2006 From: sjh at sjhserv.net (Scott J. Henson) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:50:20 -0500 Subject: An update repository for a custom distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > Hi, > > I have a custom distro, that have alot of customize packages, I would > like to use the Ubuntu repository for the updates, but I'm afraid that > the customize packages would be replaced with the ubuntu packages upon > update, I'm wondering how will I use the Ubuntu repository without the > customize packages be replaced with the ubuntu version? Is it possible? > If not, updates and g-a-i will be nothing at all (for now) :-( We have a custom distro and what we do is have a mini-dinstall repository that we upload our packages to. Then we use apt pinning to give our packages priority. Thus even if a newer version is uploaded to Ubuntu's repository, apt keeps our version installed. Obviously, this means that we have to keep up to date on security related updates, but to date this has not been an issue. From brad at bkjohnson.com Tue Dec 26 04:10:15 2006 From: brad at bkjohnson.com (Brad Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:10:15 -0600 Subject: Home IMAP server In-Reply-To: <20061225184046.540cad61@chisel> References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com> <20061225184046.540cad61@chisel> Message-ID: <1167106215.4797.2.camel@t42> On Mon, 2006-12-25 at 18:40 -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote: > Anyway, here's a couple links I found most useful... > > http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6 > http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ > Here is a how-to right from the Ubuntu Documentation for Edgy https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html Brad From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 26 04:55:48 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:55:48 +1100 Subject: mms protocol with Wget In-Reply-To: <880dece00612251339x2440e6elff32b53f9d691a12@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00612251243p6b44bfebvb7bc88a84a8a3b5b@mail.gmail.com> <20061225204840.0aed8cee@eeyore.daria.co.uk> <880dece00612251339x2440e6elff32b53f9d691a12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061226155548.0dfd7df9.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:39:50 +0200 "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > > mplayer -playlist -dumpstream -dumpfile fugly.proprietary.stuff > > mms://foo.bar.baaz > > > > Thanks, I'll give that a shot tomorrow at the uni. Alternatively: $ apt-cache show mimms ...... Description: MMS (mms://) streaming media download utility MiMMS, formerly called "mmsclient", is a simple client to download streaming audio and/or video media from the internet using the MMS protocol (i.e. from mms:// type URLs, generally found in asx files). Downloaded streams can then be replayed offline at your leisure, using any compatible media player of your choice. Peter From dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com Tue Dec 26 05:21:29 2006 From: dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com (dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:21:29 -0800 Subject: Auto detection Message-ID: <20061226052129.4CACF6985F7@cm-ms3.globat.com> Let me try again; I believe that this will be plain text.

I am looking for a distro that will install on my server, Dell poweredge 2400 with dual PIII CPU's, and auto detect SCSI controllers and RAID controllers.  Will Ubuntu (or any distro) do this?  I have used Linux quite a bit on the desktop and setup several "servers" on desktop quality machines, but i am in the dark with SCSI and RAID.

From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 26 06:48:40 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:48:40 -0600 Subject: Auto detection In-Reply-To: <20061226052129.4CACF6985F7@cm-ms3.globat.com> References: <20061226052129.4CACF6985F7@cm-ms3.globat.com> Message-ID: <4590C5C8.6070506@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 dwnorman at rightturn-inc.com wrote: > Let me try again; I believe that this will be plain text. > >

I am looking for a distro that will install on my server, Dell > poweredge 2400 with dual PIII CPU's, and auto detect SCSI controllers and > RAID controllers.  Will Ubuntu (or any distro) do this?  I have > used Linux quite a bit on the desktop and setup several "servers" on > desktop quality machines, but i am in the dark with SCSI and RAID.

Pretty much, yeah (you must come from an SCO environment: 18 years and it still requires special hardware.) :) The way you'd go about this, is to look up the model number of the SCSI host adapter and/or RAID hardware in Google, associated with, say, "Dapper" or "Ubuntu". This will tell you if there are a lot of people using it with troubles, or if it's trouble-free, etc. Chances are, it will. Especially with the biggies like Adaptech, and a mess of others, but it's always good to make sure. But keep in mind that, on the small end, software raid has a "sweet spot", where it's economical, fast, and after a crash- less hassle; maybe you don't really need it. Now if you're setting up a terabyte raid for use with a nationwide bank to clear credit cards, skip it. But for most non-commercial use, software raid is sufficient. I like the arrangement with a single root disk (until Ubuntu gets all this worked out, during install) and then /home and /shares (shared media, etc) on raid1 or mirrored drives. It means that, should you want to reload the OS, or change distros, the user data and music/whatever is safe, and things are very convenient. Should a drive fail, putting a new one in there takes little time, and all the while it's still working. Just plan the swap-out to later in the day, and it'll require just a single reboot. Don't be afraid of *this* software raid; it's not stacker. :) I've been running it for...5 years? A long time, now. It's very well documented and behaved. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkMXI6PLtRzZbdhYRAhXUAJ4uFkrkrKJykzjYqYhuUVWDOvXVGQCfYyxv 1K3NJN1Ik77kkvzHbYEestI= =cYTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 26 06:49:22 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:49:22 -0600 Subject: BT downloads and options In-Reply-To: References: <458F1B3F.9000004@fahrlander.net> Message-ID: <4590C5F2.3050600@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Colin Brace wrote: > On 12/25/06, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > >> Can someone who *hasn't* messed up their choice, let me know what >> the default is? > > gnome-btdownload Hey, yeah; this one was the original default, and it works rather well. Thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkMXy6PLtRzZbdhYRAkXnAJkBmwBcRcAmxU8+pYpEYgPg/Gwf8wCfb4ln UighsPe7B62ppUFBisuD9Mw= =j6eI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 26 06:51:43 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:51:43 -0600 Subject: DVD *duplicating* ideas In-Reply-To: <458FBC05.9070306@welcomes-you.com> References: <458F8844.3070402@fahrlander.net> <458FBC05.9070306@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <4590C67F.5060008@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Brian Fahrlander schrieb: >> I have one fast machine, a great OS, is there anything that burns >> disks, intended for mass copies, in Ubuntu? > > Well not in the strict sense I fear. > > I always use k3b (GUI frontend for various tools), where you can select > the number of copies you want to do. > > > What I would do is > (1) Create a ISO image from the master > (2) Copy this file to all workstations > (3) run k3b on each machine to burn the DVDs > (4) run around to change DVDs :) Yeah, I have the image hosted on NFS; I might just ssh over to each one with the command line, and have it eject the disk when it's done, 'harvesting' all around the house. I found a pair of LG-brand burners on eBay last night- for $30! If they work at all, I think this'll take care of the problem. Thanks, though! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkMZ/6PLtRzZbdhYRAvQiAJ4oHBRGcRFGH2EhaDxiLkyQKpYbSACfTfvH mh0x3g1z7rGsnHysdlJW5tc= =7uq5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at fahrlander.net Tue Dec 26 06:52:32 2006 From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:52:32 -0600 Subject: DVD Authoring tools In-Reply-To: <458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net> <458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> Message-ID: <4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Brian Fahrlander schrieb: >> I've seen the DVD author program...reads like stereo instructions. >> Has anyone here used it? Could I somehow get it to read an existing DVD, >> and fiddle with that setup to make one of my own? > > Fiddling with an existing DVD I would say: not much of a chance. > > I've tried, it's extremely versatile but quite a pain to use. > > After trying various tools I'm using dvdstyler which is easy to use and > offers enough things for me to create a new DVD quite fast[1] YMMV. > Hint: Don't use the one packaged in dapper/egdy and compile the version > from upstream yourself, since there are some issues and missing features > I found quite handy. Well, I'll keep an eye out for it; thanks! - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkMaw6PLtRzZbdhYRAghFAJ9Bc9h57/HblOMaWk67G+ymg7P4XwCeK+yl nOnZfaXuGFveXG5w89xlwMg= =7eda -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ynd at lntenc.com Tue Dec 26 07:18:29 2006 From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:48:29 +0530 Subject: Connecting to MSN Message-ID: Just thought to give the following link http://meebo.com/ it supports google/msn/yahoo messangers without downloading and installing the messangers. . . From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Tue Dec 26 07:28:24 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:28:24 -0700 Subject: Firefox & Thunderbird stopped working. Message-ID: <1220380.sBkGXdSmPs@louzerboy.org> [This is on Edgy i386, btw] I'm sure it has to do with some other unofficial packages I installed* as it was after that they they stopped working. I've since uninstalled Firefox and Thunderbird completely (i.e. purged) as well as a number of packages that they depend on. Then I reinstalled Firefox and Thunderbird as well as their dependencies and nothing changed. Before and after I did the uninstall/reinstall I would get no response when clicking on their respective icons. Then I tried launching from within a terminal. Nothing. The respone would be nothing but a new bash prompt. I find this all rather odd. Outside of wiping the slate clean and starting fresh with a new Ubuntu install, does anyone have any other suggestions as to how I might get Firefox and Thunderbird working again? Thanks *Yes, I screwed up. Yes I should have known better. No lectures please, thanks. -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From admin2 at enabled.com Tue Dec 26 07:37:33 2006 From: admin2 at enabled.com (Noah) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:37:33 -0800 Subject: editing savedefault entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst Message-ID: <4590D13D.8070206@enabled.com> Hi there, I am wanting to get a specific grub entry to be the default during the boot process, and I am not very experienced editing /boot/grub/menu.lst Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686 is consistently the entry that is booted but I want to have my windows partition as I am working on a ton of windows projects for the time being. I changed my 'default' setting to 'saved' and added 'savedefault' command to the 'Microsoft Windows XP Professional' entry. I figured rebooting XP would be loaded by default. It does not happen. Any clues what I am doing wrong? Here is my /boot/grub/menu.lst ---- snip --- # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. ## default num # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used. # # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'. # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your # array will desync and will not let you boot your system. default saved ## timeout sec # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry # (normally the first entry defined). timeout 10 ## hiddenmenu # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) #hiddenmenu # Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue ## password ['--md5'] passwd # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the # command 'lock' # e.g. password topsecret # password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/ # password topsecret # # examples # # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000 # root (hd0,0) # makeactive # chainloader +1 # # title Linux # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro # # # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs ## ## Start Default Options ## ## default kernel options ## default kernel options for automagic boot options ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted. ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro ## default grub root device ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0) # groot=(hd1,0) ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. alternative=true ## alternative=false alternative=true ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. lockalternative=true ## lockalternative=false # lockalternative=false ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the ## alternatives ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 # defoptions=quiet splash ## altoption boot targets option ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options ## altoptions=(recovery mode) single # altoptions=(recovery mode) single ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the ## alternative kernel options ## e.g. howmany=all ## howmany=7 # howmany=all howmany=2 ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option ## e.g. memtest86=true ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system ## can be true or false # updatedefaultentry=false updatedefaultentry=true ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686 root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-686 boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686 (recovery mode) root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686 root=/dev/hdb1 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-686 boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-25-386 root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-25-386 boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-25-386 (recovery mode) root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-25-386 boot title Ubuntu, memtest86+ root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin boot ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian # ones. title Other operating systems: root # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hda1 title Microsoft Windows XP Professional root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 From coldmeat.news at gmail.com Tue Dec 26 07:48:53 2006 From: coldmeat.news at gmail.com (Roberto Villares "Leto") Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:48:53 +0100 Subject: Automounter In-Reply-To: <20061224162501.GA3823@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061224162501.GA3823@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: <200612260848.54000.coldmeat.news@gmail.com> apt-cache search automount apt-cache show autofs El Domingo, 24 de Diciembre de 2006 17:25, stan escribió: > What's the deal with the autmouter in Ubuntu? Trying to do an apt-get > install of amd results in a message that it's not avaialble, buut has bee > supreceded by a package called am-utils. Looking in /usr/share/doc, I see > no docs for this package. > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) From mehul.forums at gmail.com Tue Dec 26 08:03:10 2006 From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:33:10 +0530 Subject: editing savedefault entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst In-Reply-To: <4590D13D.8070206@enabled.com> References: <4590D13D.8070206@enabled.com> Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612260003y70e4fd37ga3e74497ec7ca55d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/26/06, Noah wrote: > > > Here is my /boot/grub/menu.lst > > ---- snip --- > > default saved > > change default line to default 5 That's the way I go about it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjh at sjhserv.net Tue Dec 26 08:19:08 2006 From: sjh at sjhserv.net (Scott J. Henson) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 03:19:08 -0500 Subject: Automounter In-Reply-To: <20061224162501.GA3823@teddy.fas.com> References: <20061224162501.GA3823@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: stan wrote: > What's the deal with the autmouter in Ubuntu? Trying to do an apt-get > install of amd results in a message that it's not avaialble, buut has bee > supreceded by a package called am-utils. Looking in /usr/share/doc, I see > no docs for this package. > I think that you want am-utils-docs installed as well. It has all the documentation for the bsd automounter. But, I would suggest having a look at autofs. It is the Sun style version, and from what I can tell, it is better supported under Linux. From bajwa at fossfp.org Tue Dec 26 10:47:27 2006 From: bajwa at fossfp.org (Fouad Riaz Bajwa) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:47:27 +0500 Subject: Wierd error after load in GUI Message-ID: Hi, I was running Ubuntu Edgy very smoothly on my laptop until suddenly it has started to show an error after the laptop loads. As you see the Ubuntu progress splash scene finish and move towards login, a grey colored dialogue box shows up asking for network host lookup and after giving it a million IPs it still doesn't load up the login view. I have tried to shutdown x.org and change the run levels and try any possible hack I am aware of but nothing. Any possible suggestions where the heck did this unseen dialogue box come up from? Regards ----------------------- Fouad -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 10:19 AM From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au Tue Dec 26 12:00:04 2006 From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:00:04 +1100 Subject: Wierd error after load in GUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061226230004.89b7cf56.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:47:27 +0500 "Fouad Riaz Bajwa" wrote: > box shows up asking for network host lookup and after giving it a million > IPs it still doesn't load up the login view. What does the error message actually say ? That might give us a clue ... ;-) Peter From zhihang.wang at gmail.com Tue Dec 26 15:18:38 2006 From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:18:38 +0800 Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06? Message-ID: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com> This is my disk partion table: sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 3825 30724281 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda2 3826 7226 27318532+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 7227 7296 562275 5 Extended /dev/hda5 7227 7296 562243+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris When I install grub as follows: sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2 An error message alway occures: cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub. grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option ``--root-device''. Could any one help me? Best regards -- Best Regards zhihang wang -- Best Regards zhihang wang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David On Tuesday 26 December 2006 07:18, zhihang wang wrote: > This is my disk partion table: > sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l > > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 3825 30724281 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > /dev/hda2 3826 7226 27318532+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda3 7227 7296 562275 5 Extended > /dev/hda5 7227 7296 562243+ 82 Linux swap / > Solaris > > When I install grub as follows: > sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2 > An error message alway occures: > > cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub. > grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option > ``--root-device''. > > > Could any one help me? > > Best regards > > > -- > Best Regards > zhihang wang From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com Tue Dec 26 16:10:59 2006 From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:10:59 +0100 Subject: FreeNAS SMB share can't copy folders, files ok Message-ID: Greetings all, I'm running - Dapper Drake Currently Updated I've got a FreeNAS server set up at home that I'm trying to copy all my music too. I have anonymous connections set up so the SMB log shows a user connecting as: Quote: 192.168.1.100 (192.168.1.100) connect to service Music initially as user ftp (uid=21, gid=50) (pid 382 That's my computer connecting. I've ripped a CD that I would like to copy to the share. However I get this error when I try to pull a folder over: Quote: Error "Not a directory" while copying "/home/jerem...r (disc 1)". Here's where it gets weird... I can pull over individual files.. no problem. I couldn't find anything in syslog or /log/samba that would help. Also couldn't find anything on the forum or a quick google. I can mount the SMB shares, but can't modify any files inside the mounts, even if I chmod 777 the mounted directory. I'm not really sure what to search for, the error message is too long to really narrow it down. THank you! JT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sergicles at gmail.com Tue Dec 26 16:39:04 2006 From: sergicles at gmail.com (Serg B.) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:39:04 +1100 Subject: PDO_MYSQL causes Apache to segfault on Ubuntu (I think) Message-ID: <1680c5ca0612260839y3621559eld7074eb78bd859e7@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I am trying to figure out if it's just my system setup or if there is a bug in PECL PDO_MYSQL extension or Apache. Below is the PHP code I am using, I compacted it for simplicity (tested): //$dsn = "mysql:host=localhost;dbname=test_db;port=3306"; $dsn = "pgsql:dbname=test_db"; $username = "XXX"; $password = "XXX"; $num = 123; $dbh = new PDO($dsn, $username, $password); $sth = $dbh->prepare("select * from test where fld_1 > ?"); $sth->execute(array($num)); echo "
";
var_dump($sth->fetchAll());

$sth->closeCursor();
//$sths->closeCursor();


Issue 1:
When this code is executed against MySQL server using PDO_MYSQL
(v1.0.2, latest stable) it refuses to correctly evaluate line:

$sth->execute(array($num));

If I hardcode the values (numbers, no marker) into the SQL query and
leave $sth->execute() argument list empty everything works as
expected.

When I supply an argument list (above) a complete data set is
returned. Not just the values that fall under the "fld_1 > 123"
condition.

This works flawlessly when run against PostgreSQL server. So I suspect
it to be the MySQL PDO extension on Ubuntu Server.

Issue 2:
$sth->closeCursor();
//$sths->closeCursor();  // This is a non-existent object

When $sth is an invalid statement object ($sths) I get a notice and an
error when I run it against a PostgreSQL server. Messages below.

Notice:  Undefined variable: sths in /home/XXX/XXX/XXX/driver.php on line 31
Fatal error:  Call to a member function closeCursor() on a non-object
in /home/XXX/XXX/XXX/driver.php on line 31

When I run the same (invalid statement object $sths) against MySQL
server Apache spits this (below) out into its error.log file.

[Wed Dec 27 17:20:58 2006] [notice] child pid 19596 exit signal
Segmentation fault (11)

System I am using is:
Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
2.6.15-27-server #1 SMP

Latest apt-get update and dist-upgarde updates.

Nothing has been manually compiled on/for this system with the
exclusion of the PDO extensions  listed below.

PDO Extensions compiled with/by/using the following:

export PHP_PDO_SHARED="true"
phpize
./configure
make
make install

A list of relevant packages is appended below.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

   Thank,
       Serg

PDO Extensions compiled and installed are:
PDO-1.0.3 (latest stable)
PDO_MYSQL-1.0.2 (latest stable)
PDO_PGSQL-1.0.2 (latest stable)


Relevant MySQL packages installed are:
ii  libdbd-mysql-perl            3.0002-2build1               A Perl5
database interface to the MySQL data
ii  libmysqlclient14             4.1.15-1ubuntu5              mysql
database client library
ii  libmysqlclient15-dev         5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2         mysql
database development files
ii  libmysqlclient15off          5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2         mysql
database client library
ii  mysql-client-4.1             4.1.15-1ubuntu5              mysql
database client binaries
ii  mysql-common                 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2         mysql
database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql
ii  mysql-server-4.1             4.1.15-1ubuntu5              mysql
database server binaries
ii  php5-mysql                   5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             MySQL
module for php5
ii  php5-mysqli                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             MySQL
Improved module for php5


Relevant PostgreSQL packages installed are:
ii  postgresql-8.1               8.1.4-0ubuntu1.1
object-relational SQL database, version 8.1
ii  postgresql-client-8.1        8.1.4-0ubuntu1.1
front-end programs for PostgreSQL 8.1
ii  postgresql-client-common     53ubuntu3                    manager
for multiple PostgreSQL client versi
ii  postgresql-common            53ubuntu3                    manager
for PostgreSQL database clusters
ii  postgresql-dev               7.5.16.1
development files for libpq (transitional pa
ii  postgresql-server-dev-8.1    8.1.4-0ubuntu1.1
development files for PostgreSQL 8.1 server-


Relevant Apache packages installed are:
ii  apache2                      2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1            next
generation, scalable, extendable web se
ii  apache2-common               2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1            next
generation, scalable, extendable web se
ii  apache2-mpm-prefork          2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1
traditional model for Apache2
ii  apache2-utils                2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1            utility
programs for webservers
ii  exim4                        4.60-3ubuntu3.1
metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installati
ii  libapache2-mod-perl2         2.0.2-2ubuntu1
Integration of perl with the Apache2 web ser
ii  libapache2-mod-php5          5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
ii  libapr0                      2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1            the
Apache Portable Runtime
ii  libcap1                      1.10-14                      support
for getting/setting POSIX.1e capabil


Relevant PHP packages installed are:
ii  libapache2-mod-php5          5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
ii  php-pear                     5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             PEAR -
PHP Extension and Application Reposit
ii  php5                         5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
ii  php5-cli                     5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
command-line interpreter for the php5 script
ii  php5-common                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             Common
files for packages built from the php
ii  php5-curl                    5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             CURL
module for php5
ii  php5-dev                     5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             Files
for PHP5 module development
ii  php5-gd                      5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             GD
module for php5
ii  php5-imap                    5.1.2-1                      IMAP
module for php5
ii  php5-json                    1.1.0-2                      JSON
serialiser for PHP5
ii  php5-ldap                    5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             LDAP
module for php5
ii  php5-mcrypt                  5.1.2-1                      MCrypt
module for php5
ii  php5-mhash                   5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             MHASH
module for php5
ii  php5-mysql                   5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             MySQL
module for php5
ii  php5-mysqli                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             MySQL
Improved module for php5
ii  php5-odbc                    5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             ODBC
module for php5
ii  php5-pgsql                   5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
PostgreSQL module for php5
ii  php5-pspell                  5.1.2-1                      pspell
module for php5
ii  php5-recode                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             recode
module for php5
ii  php5-snmp                    5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             SNMP
module for php5
ii  php5-sqlite                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             SQLite
module for php5
ii  php5-sybase                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             Sybase /
MS SQL Server module for php5
ii  php5-xmlrpc                  5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             XML-RPC
module for php5
ii  php5-xsl                     5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4             XSL
module for php5



From wade at wadesmart.com  Tue Dec 26 20:12:13 2006
From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:12:13 -0600
Subject: No Sound in Flash
Message-ID: <1167163934.8720.36.camel@wadesmart>

12262006 1410 GMT-6

I have noticed in the past two weeks that I have not had sound on most
of the Flash videos I have seen. And just now I was reviewing a site
that I have seen lots of times with flash and now I can not hear its
sound. I can hear sound on some sites, but I do not see a reason for
this. 

???
Wade




From jdangler at atlantic.net  Tue Dec 26 21:13:34 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:13:34 -0500
Subject: disk usage
Message-ID: <1167167614.6389.150.camel@localhost>

ran a df -a this morning on my laptop, and found this entry

lrm 127968 18856 109132 15% /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile

I hadn't noticed that before.  Can someone here enlighten me as to what
this is ?

tia




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 26 21:47:44 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:47:44 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
Message-ID: <880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/12/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
>
> I've run Postfix/Dovecot under Fedora Core 3 and now Postfix/Courier
> under 6.06.1 Server with a typical ISP account as a "smart host" relay,
> probably for many of the same reasons you're wanting to do it. ;)
>
> Off the cuff laypersons opinion is that Courier is a little easier to
> set up, but I was using an older version of Postfix under Core 3. Most
> of the minor problems I had getting (secure) remote mail access up and
> running were TLS/SSL issues, and 100% Postfix. Still, I prefer Postfix
> to any of the alternatives. :)
>
> Anyway, here's a couple links I found most useful...
>
> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6
> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
>

Thanks. I've been googling all day and reading up on the subject. It
appears that I may have trouble using Hebrew (utf-8) folder names in
Dovecot (or any other IMAP server) because the standard specifies
utf-7. Can anybody enlighten me on this?

Also, will I absolutely need postfix? I'm not even sure what it does-
all the documentation seems to assume that one is familiar with it. I
_think_ that postfix will pull mail from my POP3 server and deliver it
to the IMAP server. Is this correct?

Thanks in advance.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/webpage.html
http://dugry.com



From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Tue Dec 26 21:50:21 2006
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:50:21 -0500
Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-)
In-Reply-To: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <1167169821.5652.8.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2006-22-12 at 16:46 -0500, stan wrote:
> I'm putting Kubuntu 6.10 on several machines over the weekend. Thes
> machines will replace existing older Debian based workstations.
> 
> I have run in to an issue with my existing CD recorder scripts, that I
> think I need to have IDE SCSI emulation avaialble to resolve.
> 
not sure this is truer, if you can switch yrt script from dev.sda to
dev/hdc or similar you should be ok.  

> Historically I have sometimes built custom jernels. But looking at all the
> fixes I see coming from the Ubuntu repositories, I'm a little reluctant to
> do this.
> 
> What's the Ubuntu way to do this? Is building custom kernels not the
> prefered way? If I do build one, which should I build? Looking on
> kernel,org, I see 2.6.19.1, but I also see that 2.6.18.6 has a newer
> datestamp. 
> 


> -- 
> Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
> (Dennis Ritchie)
> 
> 
kernel maintainers discourage custom builds as they want to keep the
noise from support requests down.  however it's not that hard to do esp
if you already know how to use git; see 

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild

you ban also build the restricted modules pkg if you're willing to
modify debian/rules etc; if not, i've submitted a patch to l-r-m that
makes it easier to build.  see 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/77064

g'luck, matt

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From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Tue Dec 26 21:55:20 2006
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:55:20 -0500
Subject: To Kernel, or not to kernel :-)
In-Reply-To: <20061223023358.GA12970@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061222214604.GB4964@teddy.fas.com>
	<3f0436250612221819n772e9a2fqef3f8eb76af488bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061223023358.GA12970@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <1167170120.5652.11.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2006-22-12 at 21:33 -0500, stan wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:19:28PM -0500, Qiuli Han wrote:
> > Hi
> > Are you sure that is the kernel problem not the script's problem?
> 
> Looks like cdrdao still needs IDE-SCSI, which aparantly cdrecord doees not.
> I have scripts using both. I suspect that the cdrdao ones could be converted
> to use cdrecord.
> 
> That's really a part of the questions. Which would be a better use
> of the effort. Trying to convert the scripts, or compiling
> a custom kernel. Looks like Ubuntu releases new kernel packages
> fairly often.
> 
> > 
> > if you sure it is the kernel's problem, well...pick the last stable release
> > then
> 
> Once upon a time thee was a stable branch, and a development branch. 
> Looks like it's all in the 2.6 tree these days. Do the 3rd level 
> numbers (2.6.19 vs 2.6.18) mean that now?
> 

not quite.  2.6.19 is the crrent stable release; there will then be
further point releases; 2.6.19.1, etc, which are basically for bug
fixes.  new features are now going into the 2.6.20 tree.  Using git, you
cna checkout any revision you want and build from it.  but it's advised
to use the ubuntu git tree; see thewiki page I referenced in my last
mail.

matt

> 
> 
> -- 
> Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
> (Dennis Ritchie)
> 
-- 
Matt Price
History Dept
University of Toronto
matt.price at utoronto.ca
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From taketwoaspirin at gmail.com  Tue Dec 26 22:19:22 2006
From: taketwoaspirin at gmail.com (Stephen Ryan)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:19:22 -0500
Subject: Emacs-snapshot Right Alt key
In-Reply-To: <87k60jzhz8.fsf@mac.com>
References: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com>
	<351278b80612221249h69dca1c5qcbfdd2338801f8dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<87k60jzhz8.fsf@mac.com>
Message-ID: <351278b80612261419n27271388m5debbcd0e26f4ccd@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/22/06, Scot Johnson  wrote:
> Stephen Ryan  writes:
> > I've also noticed this in Firefox, where right-alt + left-arrow
> > doesn't go back.  I've not yet bothered to find a fix for that, but
> > you might check to see if it's the same problem that I have, where the
> > right Alt key is showing up as a "ISO Level 3 Shift" key, rather than
> > "Alt_R".  From a terminal, run "xev", then press and release the right
> > alt key once.
> >
> > I get the following output from that, which shows that the key name is
> > "ISO_Level3_Shift":
>
> Running xev, it looks like I get the same thing:
>
> KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001,
>     root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2889541911, (696,268), root:(703,343),
>     state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>     XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>     XFilterEvent returns: False
>
> KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001,
>     root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2889541998, (696,268), root:(703,343),
>     state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>     XFilterEvent returns: False
>
> > I have two similar systems running edgy, one a fresh install and the
> > other an upgrade from dapper.  I wasn't sure if it was a hardware
> > difference (the newer one, a Thinkpad T60p, shows this problem, the
> > older one, a Thinkpad T40, does not), or a small configuration
> > difference between a clean install and an upgrade.  I'll try to
> > compare the two in the next day or so to see if there is an easy fix.
>
> Great!  I don't think I'm skilled enough to come up w/ a fix.  Well,
> maybe after quite a bit of skull sweat I could. :) Sure hope someone
> can find something because it's really inconvenient not to have the
> Right Alt key in emacs.
>
> Btw that xev is pretty cool.  I didn't even know that such a utility
> existed.
>
> Thanks very much for your reply!
>

Got it!  A thread here
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287318  pointed me at the
solution, though I ended up using a combination of two solutions.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has an odd option in the Keyboard section that
looks like this:

Option "XKbOptions"  "lv3:ralt_switch"

I commented that out and restarted X, which didn't really seem to
change anything, most likely because Gnome overrides a bunch of
keyboard settings.  I'm not sure if it's necessary or not, but it's
the first one I tried.

There's also a setting in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout
Options -> Third Level Choosers, where "Press Right Alt key to choose
3rd level" is pre-selected.  I unchecked that, and my right Alt key
started working again.  From the other thread, it looks like you may
need to try one or both methods for disabling this feature.



From jdangler at atlantic.net  Tue Dec 26 23:41:44 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:41:44 -0500
Subject: iptables analysis
Message-ID: <1167176505.6389.169.camel@localhost>

I'm currently running iptables and have iptable log analyzer (0.4)
installed.  Does anyone here have a preference of another (possibly more
recent, more robust) tool which I could use ?

tia





From jdangler at atlantic.net  Tue Dec 26 23:56:41 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:56:41 -0500
Subject: iptables on startup?
Message-ID: <1167177402.6389.173.camel@localhost>

I just upgraded my server to 6.06, and went through iptablesrocks to get
my iptables working.  According to the instructions given there, it says
to put the firewall ruleset in /etc/sysconfig/iptables in order for
iptables rules to be loaded when the system reboots, but I don't have
that directory in Ubuntu.  Can someone here tell me where this should be
located?  Or, should I create that directory and put the ruleset file in
it ?

tia

John




From jdangler at atlantic.net  Wed Dec 27 00:08:23 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:08:23 -0500
Subject: spamassassin on dapper
Message-ID: <1167178103.6389.175.camel@localhost>

Can anyone here point me in the right direction to find a how to on
setting up spamassassin with qmail/vpop for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?

tia

John




From glgxg at mfire.com  Wed Dec 27 00:10:51 2006
From: glgxg at mfire.com (NoOp)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:10:51 -0800
Subject: w32codecs respositories
In-Reply-To: <1214.203.101.19.158.1166773412.squirrel@mail.sarai.net>
References: <524726.12683.qm@web38707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<1166770858.1066.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1214.203.101.19.158.1166773412.squirrel@mail.sarai.net>
Message-ID: 

Aniruddha Shankar wrote:
>> On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 17:15 -0800, Dennis Castanos wrote:
>>> Which repositories will connect to "sudo gedit /etc/sources.list" to
>>> add w32codecs so that I can install?  Every time I add a link, it's
>>> down or no longer available.  Frustrating!
> 
> I asked a member of the PLF on irc about a good replacement for the
> excellent PLF Ubuntu repository (RIP and may you be resurrected) and he
> recommended Medibuntu, which contains (AFAICS) all the packages that PLF
> did.
> 
> Medibuntu can be got by following the instructions at
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/www/repository-old.html
> 
> 

That link results in a 404:

> Not Found
> 
> The requested URL /www/repository-old.html was not found on this server.
> Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.4 Python/2.4.3 mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a Server at medibuntu.sos-sts.com Port 80

However:

 http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
   http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php

Will get you to the right repositories at medibuntu.sos-sts.com.







From jdangler at atlantic.net  Wed Dec 27 00:34:47 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:34:47 -0500
Subject: apt-get nightmare - redux...
Message-ID: <1167179688.6389.180.camel@localhost>

I have what apparently is a broke spamassassin on my server that i would
like to dump and re-install.  Here are the commands I tried, and their
results...

root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassasin
E: Invalid operation spamassasin

root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --remove spamassassin
E: Invalid operation spamassassin

root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge --remove spamassassin
E: Invalid operation spamassassin

root at mgjventures:/# apt-get -s install spamassassin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
spamassassin is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Conf spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-backports)

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong ?

tia

John





From ben at cvrse.com  Wed Dec 27 00:42:54 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:42:54 +1100
Subject: apt-get nightmare - redux...
In-Reply-To: <1167179688.6389.180.camel@localhost>
References: <1167179688.6389.180.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061227004254.GA5236@rip.cvrse.com>

* John Dangler wrote:
> I have what apparently is a broke spamassassin on my server that i would
> like to dump and re-install.  Here are the commands I tried, and their
> results...
> 
> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassasin
> E: Invalid operation spamassasin
> 
> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --remove spamassassin
> E: Invalid operation spamassassin
> 
> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge --remove spamassassin
> E: Invalid operation spamassassin
> 
> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get -s install spamassassin
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> spamassassin is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> 1 not fully installed or removed.
> Conf spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-backports)
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong ?

as I stated previously & derek added aswell

> you forgot the 'remove' command
> # apt-get --purge remove spamassassin

* Derek Broughton wrote:
> aptitude is soooo much more logical:
>
> aptitude purge spamassassin


-- 
ben darby
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From frederific at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 27 00:48:17 2006
From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:48:17 +0000
Subject: mplayer stops after >1sec when streaming video
Message-ID: 

Hello,

I've been trying to view the video news on bbc.co.uk, and other embedded
video-streams elsewhere on the net. I have mplayer and mozilla-mplayer
installed. When I try and view one of these streams, mplayer buffers it,
and plays around half a second of the audio, sometimes accompanied by a
few frames of the video, then returns to "Stopped". This doesn't seem to
be limited to one type of stream; I get the same behaviour with ogg
theora, windows media, real and quicktime streams. I've done a quick
screencap of this behaviour, trying to view a BBC news clip.
 (Ironically,
when I tested that link just now, the mplayer plugin buffered it, then
stopped :D)

This is on Ubuntu 6.10

I found this reported as a bug upstream, in the Debian BTS
. However,
the solution given there (create an empty ~/.mplayer/default.sub file)
did not solve the problem for me.

Why does it do this, and (more importantly!) how can I fix it?

-- 
Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.



From scotjohnson at mac.com  Wed Dec 27 01:01:28 2006
From: scotjohnson at mac.com (Scot Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:01:28 -0600
Subject: Emacs-snapshot Right Alt key
In-Reply-To: <351278b80612261419n27271388m5debbcd0e26f4ccd@mail.gmail.com>
	(Stephen Ryan's message of "Tue\, 26 Dec 2006 17\:19\:22 -0500")
References: <87zm9hnjt9.fsf@mac.com>
	<351278b80612221249h69dca1c5qcbfdd2338801f8dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<87k60jzhz8.fsf@mac.com>
	<351278b80612261419n27271388m5debbcd0e26f4ccd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87irfyxic7.fsf@mac.com>

Stephen Ryan  writes:
> Got it!  A thread here
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287318  pointed me at the
> solution, though I ended up using a combination of two solutions.
>
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf has an odd option in the Keyboard section that
> looks like this:
>
> Option "XKbOptions"  "lv3:ralt_switch"
>
> I commented that out and restarted X, which didn't really seem to
> change anything, most likely because Gnome overrides a bunch of
> keyboard settings.  I'm not sure if it's necessary or not, but it's
> the first one I tried.
>
> There's also a setting in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout
> Options -> Third Level Choosers, where "Press Right Alt key to choose
> 3rd level" is pre-selected.  I unchecked that, and my right Alt key
> started working again.  From the other thread, it looks like you may
> need to try one or both methods for disabling this feature.
Great detective work Stephen!  I was able to use the System->
Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout -> Options -> Third Level Choosers
route.  I did not need to comment anything out of the
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

My right alt key is working like a charm...

Thanks a bunch for the help!!


-- 
Scot



From olafra at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 01:23:42 2006
From: olafra at gmail.com (Olafur Arason)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:23:42 +0000
Subject: mounting usb didgital camera
In-Reply-To: <32b873ff0612240714v17c1fb76pc63d04662ef0e856@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32b873ff0612240714v17c1fb76pc63d04662ef0e856@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Try looking at /media

OIafur Arason

On 12/24/06, Ben Edwards  wrote:
> When I connect my Cannon S3 IS unger gnome I can copy files off it OK
> but it does not create a mountpoint.  Is there a way of doing  this.
> I want to do it as I would like to copy pictures off the cameras on a
> system without gnome (its a mythtv pvr).  Any ideas?
>
> Ben
> --
> Ben Edwards - Brussels & Bristol, UK, England
> If you have a problem emailing me use
> http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4
> (email address this email is sent from may be defunct)
>
> --
> ubuntu-users mailing list
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
>



From ed.smits at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 01:41:04 2006
From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:41:04 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
Message-ID: 

My daughter got a brand new 4GB iPod nano for Christmas and we can't
get it working with her new Edgy - the system sees the iPod but
doesn't mount it. When I plug in either of the other 2 nanos (a 2GB
and a 4 GB one) here they get mounted automatically, not her new one.
Watching the activity in Device Manager as we plug and unplug the
various iPods -

all show up under the USB EHCI Host Controller entry - SCSI Device -
iPod, however the new iPod is listed as "Volume (via_raid_member)"
whereas the 2 older ones are listed by their names as assigned to them
in iTunes in XP when the iPods were first initialised. The new iPod
has also been initialised via iTunes in the same way.

Any ideas as to why the names isn't being properly recognized and the
iPod being auto-mounted?

Cheers. Hope I get an answer soon - she returns home in a week and I
promised her that Ubuntu could handle it all, so far this is the only
sticky issue.

Ed



From frederific at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 27 01:51:10 2006
From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:51:10 +0000
Subject: mplayer stops after >1sec when streaming video
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

I have solved my problem, by creating a file at
~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf with the line noembed=1 in it.

Freddie :)
-- 
Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.



From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Wed Dec 27 02:11:38 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:11:38 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4591D65A.9060303@cfftechnologies.com>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> On 26/12/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
>   
>> I've run Postfix/Dovecot under Fedora Core 3 and now Postfix/Courier
>> under 6.06.1 Server with a typical ISP account as a "smart host" relay,
>> probably for many of the same reasons you're wanting to do it. ;)
>>
>> Off the cuff laypersons opinion is that Courier is a little easier to
>> set up, but I was using an older version of Postfix under Core 3. Most
>> of the minor problems I had getting (secure) remote mail access up and
>> running were TLS/SSL issues, and 100% Postfix. Still, I prefer Postfix
>> to any of the alternatives. :)
>>
>> Anyway, here's a couple links I found most useful...
>>
>> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6
>> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
>>
>>     
>
> Thanks. I've been googling all day and reading up on the subject. It
> appears that I may have trouble using Hebrew (utf-8) folder names in
> Dovecot (or any other IMAP server) because the standard specifies
> utf-7. Can anybody enlighten me on this?
>
> Also, will I absolutely need postfix? I'm not even sure what it does-
> all the documentation seems to assume that one is familiar with it. I
> _think_ that postfix will pull mail from my POP3 server and deliver it
> to the IMAP server. Is this correct?
>  


Hi Dotan,

I don't know about Dovecot but I am using Cyrus-IMAP and I just tested
the creation of a Hebrew folder name with no problem.

As for the need for Postfix or any other SMTP server.  Postfix is used
to move email between servers while the IMAP server is used to access
your email from your client (POP3 is another way to access your email).

If I remember correctly, Postfix will not grab your POP3 email from your
ISP.  You will need to use another program (fetchmail). Fetchmail will
collect the mail from the ISP's POP3 or IMAP server and deliver it to
your SMTP server which in turn will deliver it to your IMAP server.


Avi




From wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com  Wed Dec 27 02:54:26 2006
From: wim.delvaux at adaptiveplanet.com (wim delvaux)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:54:26 +0100
Subject: OpenOffice 2.1 with fglrx: possible problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200612270354.26346.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com>

Where did you get that deb ? 

Would it be installable on edgy too ?

Thx



From sgrace at pobox.com  Wed Dec 27 03:17:58 2006
From: sgrace at pobox.com (Steve Grace)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:17:58 -0800
Subject: No Sound in Flash
In-Reply-To: <1167163934.8720.36.camel@wadesmart>
References: <1167163934.8720.36.camel@wadesmart>
Message-ID: <1167189478.5989.5.camel@midnight>

On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 14:12 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:

> I have noticed in the past two weeks that I have not had sound on most
> of the Flash videos I have seen. And just now I was reviewing a site
> that I have seen lots of times with flash and now I can not hear its
> sound. I can hear sound on some sites, but I do not see a reason for
> this. 

I've had this happen several times where a site that had been fine days
before suddenly has no sound. Sometimes a cold start fixes the problem,
but in any case the sound eventually comes back.

I'd be grateful for the real explanation!  :-)





From mark at halcy0n.com  Wed Dec 27 03:18:24 2006
From: mark at halcy0n.com (Mark Loeser)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:18:24 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>

Ed Smits  said:
> My daughter got a brand new 4GB iPod nano for Christmas and we can't
> get it working with her new Edgy - the system sees the iPod but
> doesn't mount it. When I plug in either of the other 2 nanos (a 2GB
> and a 4 GB one) here they get mounted automatically, not her new one.
> Watching the activity in Device Manager as we plug and unplug the
> various iPods -
> 
> all show up under the USB EHCI Host Controller entry - SCSI Device -
> iPod, however the new iPod is listed as "Volume (via_raid_member)"
> whereas the 2 older ones are listed by their names as assigned to them
> in iTunes in XP when the iPods were first initialised. The new iPod
> has also been initialised via iTunes in the same way.
> 
> Any ideas as to why the names isn't being properly recognized and the
> iPod being auto-mounted?
> 
> Cheers. Hope I get an answer soon - she returns home in a week and I
> promised her that Ubuntu could handle it all, so far this is the only
> sticky issue.

Actually got the same exact iPod yesterday, and saw the same exact
"via_raid_member" :)  I don't automatically mount all of my stuff, so
I'm not sure about that part, but you can definitely mount it manually
by just specifying the filesystem as well, for example:

sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/

Whenever I did not specify vfat I got saw the nice "via_raid_member".

Hope that helps somewhat,

-- 
Mark Loeser
email         -   mark AT halcy0n DOT com
web           -   http://www.halcy0n.com
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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Wed Dec 27 04:00:16 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:00:16 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061226230016.15be5f32@chisel>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> Also, will I absolutely need postfix? I'm not even sure what it does-
> all the documentation seems to assume that one is familiar with it. I
> _think_ that postfix will pull mail from my POP3 server and deliver it
> to the IMAP server. Is this correct?

No, for that you'll probably want something like fetchmail. :)

You'll need some sort of mail transport agent (MTA). That's what routes
mail around your network, forwards outgoing mail to other servers, and
directs incoming mail into the right "slot". That's the function of an
SMTP server, and Postfix is just one of the "standards". 

You'll also want to be able to collect and/or read your mail, so you
need something sitting there waiting for you to log in and do that.
This is the IMAP/POP3 part. Dovecot and Courier are just two of the
choices. Again, just a couple of "ol' reliables". 

On top of that you'll need a way to reach out to external email servers
and collect mail from there, incorporating it into your "home" server.
That's fetchmail's job. It logs into your POP account at Gmail and
moves everything from there to your server.

Confused yet? :)

On top of all *that*, there's some behind the scenes stuff that needs to
be set up like OpenSSL and SASL for security. Not to mention things like
Procmail, Bogofilter or Spamassassin, ClamAV, a "milter", yadda, yadda,
yadda... for filtering and managing the junk if you're inclined to do
that on the server.

This is why it might be wise to limit your choices to "standard" stuff,
and trust one of the "howto" links that were posted. At least for the
first go around, you can get creative later. I understand Courier has
modules for everything under the kitchen sink for instance, but there's
going to be so much more information and assistance out there for
Postfix that all you really want from Courier is the IMAP/POP module.
Or use Dovecot. And for fetching mail from other servers there's no
reason at all to look beyond Fetchmail.

-- 
     _?_      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
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From ttmrichter at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 04:42:21 2006
From: ttmrichter at gmail.com (Michael T. Richter)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:42:21 +0800
Subject: apt-get nightmare - redux...
In-Reply-To: <1167179688.6389.180.camel@localhost>
References: <1167179688.6389.180.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167194541.9956.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2006-26-12 at 19:34 -0500, John Dangler wrote:

> I have what apparently is a broke spamassassin on my server that i would
> like to dump and re-install.  Here are the commands I tried, and their
> results...



> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge spamassasin
> E: Invalid operation spamassasin



> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --remove spamassassin
> E: Invalid operation spamassassin



> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get --purge --remove spamassassin
> E: Invalid operation spamassassin



> root at mgjventures:/# apt-get -s install spamassassin
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> spamassassin is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> 1 not fully installed or removed.
> Conf spamassassin (3.1.3-1ubuntu1~dapper1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-backports)



> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong ?


You're not paying attention to the (badly-designed) command line for
apt-get.

The operation you're interested in is called "remove".  The option you
want, to get rid of config files, etc. (which doesn't always work) is
--purge.

apt-get --purge remove spamassassin.

Try that instead.  Note the lack of option dashes in front of "remove".

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From gerard.bigot at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 09:28:52 2006
From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:28:52 +0100
Subject: No Sound in Flash
In-Reply-To: <1167189478.5989.5.camel@midnight>
References: <1167163934.8720.36.camel@wadesmart>
	<1167189478.5989.5.camel@midnight>
Message-ID: <46db19270612270128v75748ba3tfcf860b47c2537f3@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/27/06, Steve Grace  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 14:12 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
>
> > I have noticed in the past two weeks that I have not had sound on most
> > of the Flash videos I have seen. And just now I was reviewing a site
> > that I have seen lots of times with flash and now I can not hear its
> > sound. I can hear sound on some sites, but I do not see a reason for
> > this.
>
> I've had this happen several times where a site that had been fine days
> before suddenly has no sound. Sometimes a cold start fixes the problem,
> but in any case the sound eventually comes back.
>
> I'd be grateful for the real explanation!  :-)
>


The  7.smth version of flash uses OSS as sound server, which is old,and
doesn't like to be accessed by more than application at the same time. The
second doesn't produce any sound. In this model, applications must release
the sound system just after they don't need it any more. The problem is most
apps grab the sound, and don't release it. Even after they are killed, they
are registered as  the sound system.That's why a reboot, repares
things.

Now, for the good news. The new, still beta, but useable, 9.smth version of
flash uses alsa, which as you now is able to mix several sounds in one.

Let's say that the new version makes sound more reliably.

G.
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From rufus at hanadari.net  Wed Dec 27 09:59:04 2006
From: rufus at hanadari.net (Avraham Hanadari)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:59:04 +0200
Subject: Where are my partitions?
In-Reply-To: <200612252006.kBPK6JpO008222@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>
References: <200612252006.kBPK6JpO008222@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>
Message-ID: <459243E8.9030203@hanadari.net>

Trevor and Mario,

GParted is exactly what I needed. I zipped into Synaptic and installed 
it. Now I can see the partitions and what the Windows ones are called. 
Many thanks. Why did the development people leave it out?

Avraham

Trevor Nye wrote:
> I realise that this is not the most elegant version but.
> 
> 1. use gparted as already advised.
> 2. Install samba
> 3. make the windows partition a shared partition and you can see all of your
> folders in windows.
> 
> Is that what you want 
> 
> 
> 



From kristian at zimmer428.net  Wed Dec 27 10:35:46 2006
From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:35:46 +0100
Subject: APIC error?
Message-ID: <45924C82.5010604@zimmer428.net>


Folks;

gone through the process of installing Edgy Eft on a Toshiba Tecra A8
notebook and migrating all my data to here, I'm stunned seeing how
smoothly things went - pretty much all the hardware included works out
of the box. :)

However, one thing left: Having a look at the kernel messages, I see
them flooded with entries like this:


[17181392.752000] APIC error on CPU1: 40(40)
[17181392.752000] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)


Strange. Is that something I should worry about? Is there some way
getting rid of that? System configuration:

- Intel Core 2 CPU T7200 , 2.00GHz
- Linux kernel 2.6.17-10-generic


Anything I forgot about, so far?

Thanks in advance and bye,
Kristian

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From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Wed Dec 27 10:50:50 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:50:50 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>

Hi,

trying to give you an overview. I don't mean to insult you but if you  
don't understand it it's

a) Probably not your fault - it's not the easiest topic
b) better to read some documentation ahead because if you have an  
open relay (but it works for you) spammers will detect it within 48h  
and abuse your server. (I had that case once and send over 20000  
Mails within 30 minutes out to the world)

Am 26.12.2006 um 22:47 schrieb Dotan Cohen:

> Also, will I absolutely need postfix? I'm not even sure what it does-
> all the documentation seems to assume that one is familiar with it. I
> _think_ that postfix will pull mail from my POP3 server and deliver it
> to the IMAP server. Is this correct?

What postfix (or any other MTA - Mail Transport Agent) is for:

postfix is a server that will listen on port 25 for incoming mail.

That means:

If (and only if) you own a domain - like dotancohen.com and want to  
administrate your own email service you need to setup a smtp server  
(such as postfix) that will listen on port 25 (this is assigned by  
IANA - someone correct me please with the acronyms i tend to horribly  
mix them up).

It is important that it indeed is port 25 because all other  
mailservers on the net out there expect your sever to accept  
connection on that port. (Like your browser expects a webserver to  
listen on port 80)

My guess is you won't need it because:

  * You said you only want to pull mail (actively receive mail with  
fetchmail or any other tool that you choose)
  * You still want to use your providers outgoint mail server (which  
is what you would need postfix for, think of it as thunderbird - or  
any other mail client being a mail server that only knows about one  
other server and submits the mail to it so that this server will take  
care of the mail)
  * A simple mail system doesn't exist, mail delivery on the net is  
by definition complicated. IMHO the lowest level of complexity that  
is available in a mail system is "complex". Going only upwards with  
complexity.

(this is subjective):
Reasons for this are: If you need to debug (as in debug if the  
configuration fits your needs) it you will have to work with  
asynchronous stuff (and I do mean asynchronous, I had times when I  
used gmail, gmx and several other outside accounts for testing where  
half of them would nearly immediately - smaller than a minute - bring  
in the mail and the other half needed up to 2 hours).

If you set up your mail server you will want to have a few anti spam  
options which just bring in more components that will make the  
communication even more asynchronous.

All this said:
If you want to set up your own mail server just get yourself enough  
time (the first server I set up was about a week of time invested  
before it worked the way I wanted) and also get a good book that  
specifically handles the mailserver you are using. It's not  
impossible  still all the administrators out there are mere mortals  
(most of them at least) but you need to be aware that you will need  
time for it. Also setting it up once isn't all there is to it you  
will find yourself always uncomfortable with the anti spam setup and  
constantly tweak the toolchain you use to avoid spam.

hth
martin

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Wed Dec 27 11:30:37 2006
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:30:37 +0100
Subject: OpenOffice 2.1 with fglrx: possible problem
In-Reply-To: <200612270354.26346.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com>
References: 
	<200612270354.26346.wim.delvaux@adaptiveplanet.com>
Message-ID: <20061227123037.6736bb1c@grey>

Hi Wim, 

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:54:26 +0100
wim delvaux  wrote:

> Where did you get that deb ?

I got it from openoffice.org. As I am using the german version,
I downloaded this file:

http://borft.student.utwente.nl/~adrian/torrentphp/torrent.php/OOo_2.1.0_LinuxIntel_install_de_deb.tar.gz.torrent

After the file is extracted, there are a multitude of .deb files
that you need to install. I installed all of them, except the
openoffice-gnome-integration, since I do not use gnome.
> 
> Would it be installable on edgy too ?

I do not know but never heard of problems with edgy (in regard
to this) 

regards
Eberhard
> 
> Thx



From amichai at iglu.org.il  Wed Dec 27 11:46:21 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:46:21 +0200
Subject: Bringing a job to foreground from another TTY over SSH?
Message-ID: 

Hi All,

I am connected to my home Ubunto 6.10 box from work using SSH CLI
(Terminal).

I ran a command on an XTerm while I was at home and I would like to bring it
to my terminal at work.

Is it possible?  How?

I hope I explained it correctly...

Let me know if you need clarifications...

Thanks!


-- 
:====================================================:.

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UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]

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From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org  Wed Dec 27 13:21:57 2006
From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:21:57 +0100
Subject: Bringing a job to foreground from another TTY over SSH?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1167225717.15372.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 13:46 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> I am connected to my home Ubunto 6.10 box from work using SSH CLI
> (Terminal).
>  
> I ran a command on an XTerm while I was at home and I would like to
> bring it to my terminal at work.
>  
> Is it possible?  How?

yup, it is possible. Take a look at the command screen.
And here is a smal howto:
http://nerdierthanthou.nfshost.com/2004/12/screen-howto.html
 
Regards,
/Magnus

> I hope I explained it correctly... 
>  
> Let me know if you need clarifications...
>  
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> :====================================================:.
> 
> Amichai Rotman
> 
> UIN#: 6401746
> Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 
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> 
> Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at
> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Linuxalert




From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Wed Dec 27 13:25:02 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:25:02 +0100
Subject: Where are my partitions?
In-Reply-To: <459243E8.9030203@hanadari.net>
Message-ID: <200612271325.kBRDPBH2023041@smtp-prs02.proxy.aol.com>

No problem, I guess it was the christmas spirit

.......





From ed.smits at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 13:50:21 2006
From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 08:50:21 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: <20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
Message-ID: 

On 12/26/06, Mark Loeser  wrote:
> Ed Smits  said:
> > My daughter got a brand new 4GB iPod nano for Christmas and we can't
> > get it working with her new Edgy - the system sees the iPod but
> > doesn't mount it. When I plug in either of the other 2 nanos (a 2GB
> > and a 4 GB one) here they get mounted automatically, not her new one.
> > Watching the activity in Device Manager as we plug and unplug the
> > various iPods -
> >
> > all show up under the USB EHCI Host Controller entry - SCSI Device -
> > iPod, however the new iPod is listed as "Volume (via_raid_member)"
> > whereas the 2 older ones are listed by their names as assigned to them
> > in iTunes in XP when the iPods were first initialised. The new iPod
> > has also been initialised via iTunes in the same way.
> >
> > Any ideas as to why the names isn't being properly recognized and the
> > iPod being auto-mounted?
> >
> > Cheers. Hope I get an answer soon - she returns home in a week and I
> > promised her that Ubuntu could handle it all, so far this is the only
> > sticky issue.
>
> Actually got the same exact iPod yesterday, and saw the same exact
> "via_raid_member" :)  I don't automatically mount all of my stuff, so
> I'm not sure about that part, but you can definitely mount it manually
> by just specifying the filesystem as well, for example:
>
> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/
>
> Whenever I did not specify vfat I got saw the nice "via_raid_member".
>
> Hope that helps somewhat,

Thanks for your manual suggestion, that at least got it manually
mounted and useable, however I'm trying to set this laptop up so that
it is easy for her to use, and getting the iPod automounted would
certainly be how we'd like it to work.

Any other ideas? I'm assuming a lot of new iPods were under the tree,
sounds like the problem is more pervasive than just in our case,
surely someone has figured out how to get it done.

Cheers


ED



From ed.smits at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 14:41:56 2006
From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:41:56 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
	
Message-ID: 

More on the new iPod problem outlined below, maybe this might help.
Unfortunately I'm out of my league here...

1) when I do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/" the iPod is
mounted, however Amarok reports that the user doesn't have permission
to connect to the iPod. I've tried various combinations of options to
give her permission when mounting, haven't yet figured it out,
although that's my stupidity and I assume I'll figure that out
eventually.

2) I added "/dev/sda2 /media/ipod vfat  user,noauto     0       0" to
her fstab, connected the iPod. It mounted fine, but then a few minutes
later the system recognises the iPod a second time (This time
correctly, as an "Apple iPod Music Player"), so now we have 2 iPod
system connected, at which point neither one works - the Apple one
can't be mounted (dmesg says unrecognised file system), the ipod one
says it's already mounted.

ED

On 12/27/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> On 12/26/06, Mark Loeser  wrote:
> > Ed Smits  said:
> > > My daughter got a brand new 4GB iPod nano for Christmas and we can't
> > > get it working with her new Edgy - the system sees the iPod but
> > > doesn't mount it. When I plug in either of the other 2 nanos (a 2GB
> > > and a 4 GB one) here they get mounted automatically, not her new one.
> > > Watching the activity in Device Manager as we plug and unplug the
> > > various iPods -
> > >
> > > all show up under the USB EHCI Host Controller entry - SCSI Device -
> > > iPod, however the new iPod is listed as "Volume (via_raid_member)"
> > > whereas the 2 older ones are listed by their names as assigned to them
> > > in iTunes in XP when the iPods were first initialised. The new iPod
> > > has also been initialised via iTunes in the same way.
> > >
> > > Any ideas as to why the names isn't being properly recognized and the
> > > iPod being auto-mounted?
> > >
> > > Cheers. Hope I get an answer soon - she returns home in a week and I
> > > promised her that Ubuntu could handle it all, so far this is the only
> > > sticky issue.
> >
> > Actually got the same exact iPod yesterday, and saw the same exact
> > "via_raid_member" :)  I don't automatically mount all of my stuff, so
> > I'm not sure about that part, but you can definitely mount it manually
> > by just specifying the filesystem as well, for example:
> >
> > sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/
> >
> > Whenever I did not specify vfat I got saw the nice "via_raid_member".
> >
> > Hope that helps somewhat,
>
> Thanks for your manual suggestion, that at least got it manually
> mounted and useable, however I'm trying to set this laptop up so that
> it is easy for her to use, and getting the iPod automounted would
> certainly be how we'd like it to work.
>
> Any other ideas? I'm assuming a lot of new iPods were under the tree,
> sounds like the problem is more pervasive than just in our case,
> surely someone has figured out how to get it done.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> ED
>



From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Wed Dec 27 15:24:30 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:24:30 +0100
Subject: What gstreamer plugin to read VCD?
Message-ID: <1167233070.4760.15.camel@r4000>

Hi,
I have a default Edgy install, and I cant read VCDs.
Totem has not the (gstreamer?) plugin to do so.
What's the name of the required plugin?
Please help. VCDs are just mpeg-1 ones... I dont understand.
Thank you.




From norman at littletank.org  Wed Dec 27 15:55:02 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:55:02 +0000
Subject: What gstreamer plugin to read VCD?
In-Reply-To: <1167233070.4760.15.camel@r4000>
References: <1167233070.4760.15.camel@r4000>
Message-ID: <1167234902.11456.22.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 16:24 +0100, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a default Edgy install, and I cant read VCDs.
> Totem has not the (gstreamer?) plugin to do so.
> What's the name of the required plugin?
> Please help. VCDs are just mpeg-1 ones... I dont understand.
> Thank you.

I was recently advised as follows:-

you install totem-xine, libxine-extracodecs, all the gstreamer-0.10
codecs (good bad and ugly) and w32codecs you shouldnt have trouble
playing mpegs. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats has
lots of information on how to enable codecs for various multimedia
formats, both audio and video.

Hope this is of use.

Norman




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 17:15:26 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:15:26 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I do in fact have the domain dotancohen.com and do use it for
email. It is not hosted on my home machine, rather on a 'real'
webserver thousands of kilometers away. I currently pull mail from
there via POP3 and send mail from there via SMTP, both in Kmail.

I'd like to still have the mail stored on my local home machine, but
I'd also like to access it via the laptop while I'm away. That leaves
me the options of:
1) Pulling the email down from the server via POP3 and leaving a copy
on the server in the laptop.
2) Syncing the laptop and the home machine when I get home- all email
downloaded to one will be transfered to the other. Also, any email
erased from one will be erased from the other.
3) Using an IMAP server that I access via both the home machine and the laptop.

Assuming that I go with the IMAP server on my home machine, I'd need:
(please correct me if I'm wrong)

1) A static IP (which I have)
2) The machine must always be turned on (which it is)
3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and store it.
Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make the mail
available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on the laptop.
4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means that
sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was sent from.
5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
both machines.

Thanks. Sorry for the newbie questions. Most of what I've needed to
know I got from STFW but there are these questions that I can't answer
myself.

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/140/425/red_hot_chili_peppers/the_red_hot_chili_peppers.php
http://what-is-what.com/what_is/google.html



From news at pointerstop.ca  Mon Dec 25 23:48:46 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:48:46 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to
> an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in
> Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away.
> 
> What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I
> know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks.
> 
Dovecot is my preference.  Simple and no unnecessary bells & whistles.

The different servers have a tendency to define their default namespaces
differently - in Kmail you just click on the "reload" icon
beside "namespace" in the IMAP configuration, and you're set.  I haven't
had any trouble with any of the IMAP servers I've accessed from KMail.
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Mon Dec 25 23:57:28 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:57:28 -0400
Subject: Where are my partitions?
References: <9764ea50612250040m13afcdd5p5fb90621c8b1c44a@mail.gmail.com>	<458FA6A7.9010707@hanadari.net>
	<45900BB0.8060609@grm.net> <459026C8.2080205@hanadari.net>
Message-ID: <845664-nqc.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Avraham Hanadari wrote:

> Not on my version of Ubuntu. There's something called Device Manager,
> but it just lists the Windows name of the Windows data partition. I'm
> giving up. I guess I'm still not ready for Linux ... or Linux isn't
> ready for my desktop.

Please don't say "Linux" isn't ready.  There are enough variants of Linux
that it is pretty safe to say that there is at least _one_ that does what
you want.  I haven't looked very far in Kubuntu, but I see that when I
put /dev/sda into the address box of Konqueror, it immediately pops up a
list of partitions (/dev/sda1-4), so clearly Konqueror knows the
partitions.
-- 
derek




From jdangler at atlantic.net  Wed Dec 27 17:31:29 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:31:29 -0500
Subject: evolution searching
Message-ID: <1167240690.6389.214.camel@localhost>

Is there a way to search _all_ mail folders in evolution for a
particular string?  I tried setting sender or subject contains and
pointing to the top of the tree (On This Computer), but it doesn't work.
I can't seem to find any info in the help file or in online searching...

Thanks for any input.




From news at pointerstop.ca  Mon Dec 25 23:53:33 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:53:33 -0400
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> On 25/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
>> Huh?  _educated_ people still can't seem to grasp the difference between
>> Java and Javascript.  So, no, normal users don't generally have a clue
>> what
>> Java is.  "Normal" users don't have a clue what programming languages
>> are, because "normal" users don't program.
> 
> Do normal people not know the difference between a gearbox and an
> exhaust pipe because they are not mechanics?

I'd say that's probably pretty true of _many_ normal people.  However, the
more accurate comparison is more like "drive shaft" and "universal joint". 
They might understand the concept of a programming language, but they don't
know anything about specific languages.  They might be able to identify the
driveshaft, but they don't know what the universal joints are.  You need to
get out more - talk to a few Windows users and ask them what Java is.  My
guess is the most common responses will be either "Coffee" or "an island in
Indonesia".
-- 
derek




From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Wed Dec 27 17:34:59 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:34:59 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200612271735.kBRHZ2pY023267@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>

Sorry to come in late here. I have a similar external address to handle my
email.

However I leave my mail on the server and download it to which ever machine
I want it on. If I need it on both machines I copy it down.


Just a thought





From pspotts at alum.mit.edu  Wed Dec 27 17:38:19 2006
From: pspotts at alum.mit.edu (Peter N. Spotts)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:38:19 -0500
Subject: evolution searching
In-Reply-To: <1167240690.6389.214.camel@localhost>
References: <1167240690.6389.214.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167241099.20982.4.camel@pspotts>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 12:31 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> Is there a way to search _all_ mail folders in evolution for a
> particular string?  I tried setting sender or subject contains and
> pointing to the top of the tree (On This Computer), but it doesn't work.
> I can't seem to find any info in the help file or in online searching...
> 
> Thanks for any input.
> 
> 

To the right of the field for the search terms, you'll find a pull down
menu. Select "Current Account." It will search every folder for that
account.

Pete
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From koalay at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 18:03:26 2006
From: koalay at gmail.com (Shu Hung (Koala))
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:03:26 +0800
Subject: Command line printing
Message-ID: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
(1) Microsoft Document
(2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
(3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)
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From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Wed Dec 27 18:13:47 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:13:47 +1100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <20061228051347.7a57d0ca.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:53:33 -0400
Derek Broughton  wrote:

> You need to
> get out more - talk to a few Windows users and ask them what Java is.  My
> guess is the most common responses will be either "Coffee" or "an island in
> Indonesia".

... and of course if you ask them what Lisp is ..... 

;-)

Peter



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Wed Dec 27 18:52:28 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:52:28 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>

Dotan Cohen wrote:



> Assuming that I go with the IMAP server on my home machine, I'd need:
> (please correct me if I'm wrong)
> 
> 1) A static IP (which I have)

This isn't absolutely necessary. The typical solution for dynamic IP
addresses is to use an automatic DDNS redirect service like Yi.org or
DynDNS.com. Even with a static IP and your own domain, you might want
to consider a free redirect unless you can reconfigure your domain MX
to use your home server directly. Something you might not want to do
for a number of reasons. 

Either way there's some other minor considerations that make having a
"name" assigned to your home mail server preferable to accessing it by
IP. Most of them have to do with incoming mail and SPAM/RBL stuff which
may or may not be an issue depending on whether or not your mail server
has any public exposure.

> 2) The machine must always be turned on (which it is)
> 3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and store it.
> Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make the mail
> available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on the laptop.

I would *strongly* urge you to include an SMTP server in the
configuration. It's possible to have Fetchmail do local mail delivery
with the -mda (?) switch, but this raises certain security and
functionality issues you might want to research.

Opinions vary on this of course. I'd suggest some Google time and
searches on things like 'fetchmail without SMTP' and 'fetchmail IMAP
support'. I think you'll come away with the opinion that it's generally
better to have the proper tool for the proper job. ;)

> 4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means that
> sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was sent from.

Here again I would probably want to use the local mail server for
outgoing delivery. It keeps things "centralized" and under your control.
Configuring most SMTP servers to relay mail through a "smart host" like
your domain account's mail server is a snap compared to everything
else. And you can still send directly through your domain/Gmail
accounts from KMail if you want, using different profiles. KMail does
allow multiple send profiles, right? It's been a while....

> 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> both machines.

Yup, this is why you'll probably want to run a full blown mail
server. :) Setting up the extra goodies will be a lot less cumbersome
once you understand how it all works. Bogofilter/Spamassassin and
things like ClamAV can be configured to observe ALL your incoming and
outgoing mail centrally. One setup to configure and maintain, rather
than trying to "sync" spam databases and what not between your laptop
and any permanent home workstations you might have.

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From sgrace at pobox.com  Wed Dec 27 19:19:00 2006
From: sgrace at pobox.com (Steve Grace)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:19:00 -0800
Subject: No Sound in Flash
In-Reply-To: <46db19270612270128v75748ba3tfcf860b47c2537f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1167163934.8720.36.camel@wadesmart>
	<1167189478.5989.5.camel@midnight>
	<46db19270612270128v75748ba3tfcf860b47c2537f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167247140.8364.1.camel@midnight>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 10:28 +0100, Gérard BIGOT wrote:

> The  7.smth version of flash uses OSS as sound server, which is
> old,and doesn't like to be accessed by more than application at the
> same time. The second doesn't produce any sound. In this model,
> applications must release the sound system just after they don't need
> it any more. The problem is most apps grab the sound, and don't
> release it. Even after they are killed, they are registered as
>  the sound system.That's why a reboot, repares things.
> 
> Now, for the good news. The new, still beta, but useable, 9.smth
> version of flash uses alsa, which as you now is able to mix several
> sounds in one. 
> 
> Let's say that the new version makes sound more reliably. 

Thanks for that information!

I found the beta here:

   http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html

It's easy to install and is working fine so far.





From larry at isp.com  Wed Dec 27 20:00:17 2006
From: larry at isp.com (Larry Shields)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:00:17 -0600
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
Message-ID: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com>

*Hello everyone,

I seem to be having a problem with the sources.list, now maybe the site 
is down, but I am not sure...At anyrate what happens when I do an 
apt-get update, it gets too this point then STOP'S...

Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)]

Is anyone else having this problem, or is it me...???

Thanks for any help one can offer...

Larry

*

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From jdangler at atlantic.net  Wed Dec 27 20:16:57 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:16:57 -0500
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
In-Reply-To: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com>
References: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com>
Message-ID: <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 14:00 -0600, Larry Shields wrote:
> *Hello everyone,
> 
> I seem to be having a problem with the sources.list, now maybe the site 
> is down, but I am not sure...At anyrate what happens when I do an 
> apt-get update, it gets too this point then STOP'S...
> 
> Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)]
> 
> Is anyone else having this problem, or is it me...???
> 
Not here ...

gymsmoke at croatus:~$ sudo apt-get update
Password:
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources
Fetched 3B in 8s (0B/s)
Reading package lists... Done

(remember to either sudo the command or be sudo user)




From pgort at iprimus.com.au  Wed Dec 27 20:20:27 2006
From: pgort at iprimus.com.au (Peter Gort)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:20:27 +1100
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
Message-ID: 

a long time ago, I installed Ubuntu 4 on an old iMac G3 600(blue  
dalmation thing) I have laying around, and it worked OK.  Then I  
needed it to run as a Mac for a while for some project work so I  
erased everything and set it up with Mac OS X 10.3, then 10.4.

A little while ago I got some new computers and retired the old iMac,  
which had done sterling service and never failed in any way, and it's  
over 5 years old now.

Now I have a need of a DNS server in my local subnet, I thought I'd  
stick Ubuntu onto it again.  I went for Desktop rather than server so  
that it could be used to keep 8 year old amused during school  
holidays.  Boy did I get a shock!, neither 6.06 or 6.10 live cds will  
boot to a graphical screen, no matter what options I have been able  
to figure out.  Either I got a completely blank screen or I got a  
mixed up looking text screen that said the XServer had failed to  
start.  Eventually I gave up and downloaded the 6.10 alternate CD,  
and ran an "expert" installation, mostly going with the default  
settings.  At no time during the installation did it ask for XServer  
settings, but the install completed without incident and it rebooted.  
It booted with a strange white square occupying the lower two thirds  
of the screen.....  However it eventually came to a graphical login  
screen that looked normal, and I was able to log in, but it is  
responding so slowly that mouse movements take up to 30 seconds to  
show on the screen and I've been waiting 10 minutes now for the  
Preferences sub menu to appear under the System menu.

Anybody got any idea why this unusably slow thing is happening?  Box  
is an iMac G3 600 MHz, 512MB RAM, 40G hard drive all of it dedicated  
to Ubuntu, no Mac OS Partition.  Spec says "ATI RAGE 128 Pro graphics  
with 8 MB of SDRAM or ATI RAGE 128 Ultra graphics with 16 MB of  
SDRAM" not sure which I've got.  If I can get it to shut down  
gracefully I'll reboot from Mac OS CD and find out...

Peter



From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br  Wed Dec 27 20:51:30 2006
From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:51:30 -0200
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
In-Reply-To: <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>
References: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com> <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <200612271851.30549.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>

On Wednesday 27 December 2006 18:16, John Dangler wrote:

I got some 404's today!

Ricardo
Brazil


> On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 14:00 -0600, Larry Shields wrote:
> > *Hello everyone,
> >
> > I seem to be having a problem with the sources.list, now maybe the site
> > is down, but I am not sure...At anyrate what happens when I do an
> > apt-get update, it gets too this point then STOP'S...
> >
> > Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)]
> >
> > Is anyone else having this problem, or is it me...???
>
> Not here ...
>
> gymsmoke at croatus:~$ sudo apt-get update
> Password:
> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B]
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources
> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B]
> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B]
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources
> Fetched 3B in 8s (0B/s)
> Reading package lists... Done
>
> (remember to either sudo the command or be sudo user)

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From larry at isp.com  Wed Dec 27 21:03:36 2006
From: larry at isp.com (Larry Shields)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:03:36 -0600
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
In-Reply-To: <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>
References: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com> <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4592DFA8.9060107@isp.com>

John Dangler wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 14:00 -0600, Larry Shields wrote:
>   
>> *Hello everyone,
>>
>> I seem to be having a problem with the sources.list, now maybe the site 
>> is down, but I am not sure...At anyrate what happens when I do an 
>> apt-get update, it gets too this point then STOP'S...
>>
>> Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)]
>>
>> Is anyone else having this problem, or is it me...???
>>
>>     
> Not here ...
>
> gymsmoke at croatus:~$ sudo apt-get update
> Password:
> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B]
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages
> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources
> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B]
> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B]
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources
> Fetched 3B in 8s (0B/s)
> Reading package lists... Done
>
> (remember to either sudo the command or be sudo user)
>
>
>   
*Ok I know that one must be root, and here is the output of the apt-get 
update attached plus my sources.list...Maybe it is the sources.list that 
is my problem...

Thanks for the replies...

Larry
*

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From larry at isp.com  Wed Dec 27 21:05:37 2006
From: larry at isp.com (Larry Shields)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:05:37 -0600
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
In-Reply-To: <200612271851.30549.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
References: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com> <1167250617.6389.234.camel@localhost>
	<200612271851.30549.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
Message-ID: <4592E021.6050606@isp.com>

Ricardo C O Freitas wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 December 2006 18:16, John Dangler wrote:
>
> I got some 404's today!
>
> Ricardo
> Brazil
>
>
>   
Thanks Ricardo...

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From alain.muls at telenet.be  Wed Dec 27 21:24:14 2006
From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:24:14 +0100
Subject: NetworkManager
Message-ID: <200612272224.14314.alain.muls@telenet.be>

Hi,

I had NM running a couple of weeks ago, but I wrongly removed a preferred wifi 
connection and attempting to restore this, I reaaly screwed up NM.

I get the following message:

muls at geod02:etc$ sudo NetworkManager --no-daemon
NetworkManager:    starting...
NetworkManager:         nm_dbus_init (): nm_dbus_init() could not 
acquire the NetworkManager service.
  Message: 'Connection ":1.15" is not allowed to own the 
service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" due to security policies in the 
configuration file'
NetworkManager:  [1167254537.682544] main (): nm_dbus_init() failed, 
exiting. Either dbus is not running, or the NetworkManager dbus security 
policy was not loaded.
NetworkManager: traceback:
NetworkManager:         NetworkManager(main+0x3e3) [0x8066ea8]
NetworkManager:         /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd2) 
[0xb7c78ea2]
NetworkManager:         NetworkManager [0x8052d91]
Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)

Any ideas howto resolve???
Tx/Alain



From norman at littletank.org  Wed Dec 27 21:25:58 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:25:58 +0000
Subject: Command line printing
In-Reply-To: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167254758.11456.29.camel@localhost>


> Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
> (1) Microsoft Document
> (2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
> (3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)

You could try  lp -d printername file(s)

I often use this to print photographs.

Norman




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 22:03:39 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:03:39 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
Message-ID: <880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>

On 27/12/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> 
>
> > Assuming that I go with the IMAP server on my home machine, I'd need:
> > (please correct me if I'm wrong)
> >
> > 1) A static IP (which I have)
>
> This isn't absolutely necessary. The typical solution for dynamic IP
> addresses is to use an automatic DDNS redirect service like Yi.org or
> DynDNS.com. Even with a static IP and your own domain, you might want
> to consider a free redirect unless you can reconfigure your domain MX
> to use your home server directly. Something you might not want to do
> for a number of reasons.

I'd use the static IP for connecting the laptop to the home machine
only. Email addressed to me will wind up in myu POP3 box on the
webserver, and from there I'd pull it down.

> Either way there's some other minor considerations that make having a
> "name" assigned to your home mail server preferable to accessing it by
> IP. Most of them have to do with incoming mail and SPAM/RBL stuff which
> may or may not be an issue depending on whether or not your mail server
> has any public exposure.

No name will be assigned to my home machine, and as far as those
sending/receiving mail from me, there will be no difference at all.
The MX records will still point at the webserver and the mail will
still come from there.

> > 2) The machine must always be turned on (which it is)
> > 3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and store it.
> > Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make the mail
> > available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on the laptop.
>
> I would *strongly* urge you to include an SMTP server in the
> configuration. It's possible to have Fetchmail do local mail delivery
> with the -mda (?) switch, but this raises certain security and
> functionality issues you might want to research.

Er, I thought that was the whole idea of Fetchmail! So what you are
saying is that Fetchmail will get the mail from the server, then and
SMTP server (name of this program?) will devliver it to the IMAP
server (dovecat), which will serve to multiple Kmail instances.

> Opinions vary on this of course. I'd suggest some Google time and
> searches on things like 'fetchmail without SMTP' and 'fetchmail IMAP
> support'. I think you'll come away with the opinion that it's generally
> better to have the proper tool for the proper job. ;)

Yes, lots of time on google has been invested in this!

> > 4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means that
> > sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was sent from.
>
> Here again I would probably want to use the local mail server for
> outgoing delivery. It keeps things "centralized" and under your control.
> Configuring most SMTP servers to relay mail through a "smart host" like
> your domain account's mail server is a snap compared to everything
> else. And you can still send directly through your domain/Gmail
> accounts from KMail if you want, using different profiles. KMail does
> allow multiple send profiles, right? It's been a while....

I'll look into that, but I'd like to know what it the advantage of
adding yet _another_ link to the chain. The outgoing mail remains
simple. Why make it complicated as well?

> > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> > both machines.
>
> Yup, this is why you'll probably want to run a full blown mail
> server. :) Setting up the extra goodies will be a lot less cumbersome
> once you understand how it all works. Bogofilter/Spamassassin and
> things like ClamAV can be configured to observe ALL your incoming and
> outgoing mail centrally. One setup to configure and maintain, rather
> than trying to "sync" spam databases and what not between your laptop
> and any permanent home workstations you might have.

Outgoing mail I have no reason to process, but this might be great for
incomming mail.

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/
http://what-is-what.com/



From news at pointerstop.ca  Wed Dec 27 22:06:28 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:06:28 -0400
Subject: Where are my partitions?
References: <200612252006.kBPK6JpO008222@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>
	<459243E8.9030203@hanadari.net>
Message-ID: <4c7b64-379.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Avraham Hanadari wrote:

> Trevor and Mario,
> 
> GParted is exactly what I needed. I zipped into Synaptic and installed
> it. Now I can see the partitions and what the Windows ones are called.
> Many thanks. Why did the development people leave it out?
> 
Because it's serious overkill for just learning what your partitions are
called.
-- 
derek




From senectus at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 22:50:45 2006
From: senectus at gmail.com (Senectus .)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:50:45 +0900
Subject: Where do I go now?
In-Reply-To: <459276FF.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
References: 
	<2c8763bb0612170107p3d386dd4p78521f62402c5980@mail.gmail.com>
	<459276FF.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
Message-ID: 

On 27/12/06, Bill Cairns  wrote:
>
> NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited
> EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE
> which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I am having problems with my USB memory stick under Dapper. I am using a
> fairly old machine with only USB 1.1 ports.
>
> I have tried "Absolute Beginners Forum" (where I belong). I have also
> searched the forums - there seem to have been some similar problems
> reported on the "Hardware and Laptops" forum, but they all just peter
> out with no resolution. The indication is that there are definitely some
> funny problems associated with speeds or formats or something. But I
> don't see solutions.
>
> Where can I go from here?



Can you plug the device in, wait a few seconds then type the following into
a shell:
lsusb

Then show what the output is please?
Thanks
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From francis at flourish.org  Wed Dec 27 22:52:29 2006
From: francis at flourish.org (Francis Irving)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:52:29 +0000
Subject: pdftohtml: New upstream version
Message-ID: <20061227225229.13630.76704.reportbug@owl>

Package: pdftohtml
Version: 0.36-13
Severity: wishlist


There is a new upstream version, 0.39, available here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=45839

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers edgy-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'edgy-updates'), (500, 'edgy-security'), (500, 'edgy')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-386
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

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From senectus at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 23:02:35 2006
From: senectus at gmail.com (Senectus .)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:02:35 +0900
Subject: Where do I go now?
In-Reply-To: <459276FF.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
References: 
	<2c8763bb0612170107p3d386dd4p78521f62402c5980@mail.gmail.com>
	<459276FF.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
Message-ID: 

On 27/12/06, Bill Cairns  wrote:
>
> NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited
> EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE
> which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I am having problems with my USB memory stick under Dapper. I am using a
> fairly old machine with only USB 1.1 ports.
>
> I have tried "Absolute Beginners Forum" (where I belong). I have also
> searched the forums - there seem to have been some similar problems
> reported on the "Hardware and Laptops" forum, but they all just peter
> out with no resolution. The indication is that there are definitely some
> funny problems associated with speeds or formats or something. But I
> don't see solutions.
>
> Where can I go from here?



Can you plug the device in, wait a few seconds then type the following into
a shell:
lsusb

Then show what the output is please?
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From news at pointerstop.ca  Wed Dec 27 22:25:27 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:25:27 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> Thanks. I've been googling all day and reading up on the subject. It
> appears that I may have trouble using Hebrew (utf-8) folder names in
> Dovecot (or any other IMAP server) because the standard specifies
> utf-7. Can anybody enlighten me on this?

Oh, dear.  No idea.  It's so much easier for those of us using only
English...  I suspect, though, that most IMAP servers will probably work
with utf-8 anyway.
> 
> Also, will I absolutely need postfix? I'm not even sure what it does-
> all the documentation seems to assume that one is familiar with it. I
> _think_ that postfix will pull mail from my POP3 server and deliver it
> to the IMAP server. Is this correct?

Yes, but you don't need postfix.  I pull my mail with fetchmail, which can
deliver either to SMTP (in my case masqmail) or an MDA.  Maildrop or
procmail should both be capable of dropping the mails into the appropriate
folders.  Now that I think of it, I should check that out, because I really
don't need an MTA any more...

-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Wed Dec 27 22:29:56 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:29:56 -0400
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<20061228051347.7a57d0ca.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <4o8b64-p99.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Peter Garrett wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:53:33 -0400
> Derek Broughton  wrote:
> 
>> You need to
>> get out more - talk to a few Windows users and ask them what Java is.  My
>> guess is the most common responses will be either "Coffee" or "an island
>> in Indonesia".
> 
> ... and of course if you ask them what Lisp is .....
> 
> ;-)

LOL.  I've done some fairly advanced Lisp programmming, and I still wouldn't
want to admit to knowing what it is :-)
-- 
derek




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 23:49:32 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:49:32 +0200
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
> You need to
> get out more - talk to a few Windows users and ask them what Java is.  My
> guess is the most common responses will be either "Coffee" or "an island in
> Indonesia".

What answer were you expecting? Isn't that what Java is?
(Javascript is written language of the people living on Java, no?)

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/java.html
http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/42/402/pink_floyd/more.php



From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 00:21:46 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:21:46 +0800
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <200612260754.48281.david@kosmosisland.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200612260754.48281.david@kosmosisland.com>
Message-ID: <212696550612271621r2c326d40v7889f76800acf39f@mail.gmail.com>

David:
  My device.map file is:
(hd0)    /dev/hda
I delete the floppy mapping because there is not a floppy driver in my PC.

On 12/26/06, David Koski  wrote:
>
> What does /boot/grub/device.map have in it?
>
> David
>
> On Tuesday 26 December 2006 07:18, zhihang wang wrote:
> > This is my disk partion table:
> > sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >
> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/hda1   *           1        3825    30724281    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > /dev/hda2            3826        7226    27318532+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hda3            7227        7296      562275    5  Extended
> > /dev/hda5            7227        7296      562243+  82  Linux swap /
> > Solaris
> >
> > When I install grub as follows:
> > sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2
> > An error message alway occures:
> >
> > cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub.
> > grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option
> > ``--root-device''.
> >
> >
> > Could any one help me?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > zhihang wang
>
>
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From kenneth at loafman.com  Thu Dec 28 01:20:14 2006
From: kenneth at loafman.com (Kenneth Loafman)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:20:14 -0600
Subject: APIC error?
In-Reply-To: <45924C82.5010604@zimmer428.net>
References: <45924C82.5010604@zimmer428.net>
Message-ID: <45931BCE.2090703@loafman.com>

Getting the same problem here, different architecture:
   Dell Inspiron 1501
   AMD Turion 64 X2
   2GB Memory
   Ubuntu Desktop 64-bit

Same error, about once every 30 seconds.

...Thanks,
...Ken

Kristian Rink wrote:
> Folks;
> 
> gone through the process of installing Edgy Eft on a Toshiba Tecra A8
> notebook and migrating all my data to here, I'm stunned seeing how
> smoothly things went - pretty much all the hardware included works out
> of the box. :)
> 
> However, one thing left: Having a look at the kernel messages, I see
> them flooded with entries like this:
> 
> 
> [17181392.752000] APIC error on CPU1: 40(40)
> [17181392.752000] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
> 
> 
> Strange. Is that something I should worry about? Is there some way
> getting rid of that? System configuration:
> 
> - Intel Core 2 CPU T7200 , 2.00GHz
> - Linux kernel 2.6.17-10-generic
> 
> 
> Anything I forgot about, so far?
> 
> Thanks in advance and bye,
> Kristian
> 



From aradsky at ne.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 01:21:19 2006
From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:21:19 -0500
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>

zhihang wang wrote:

>
> This is my disk partion table:
> sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>
>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   *           1        3825    30724281    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/hda2            3826        7226    27318532+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda3            7227        7296      562275    5  Extended
> /dev/hda5            7227        7296      562243+  82  Linux swap / 
> Solaris
>
> When I install grub as follows:
> sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2
> An error message alway occures:
>
> cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub.
> grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option 
> ``--root-device''.
>
>
> Could any one help me?
>
> Best regards
>
Wasn't there a point during the installation of ubuntu where you had an 
opportunity to install grub as the booter?

Since you seem to have no easy way to boot into ubuntu you could avoid a 
lot of trouble by simply clearing out everything except your Win95 and 
starting over.  Correcting errors in installation can be a real 
drag---and you're never sure if you didn't miss something.

If all you want (in addition to Win95) is ubuntu, you can use hda2 for / 
and hda3 for swap.  You don't need to get involved with hda4, hda5 or 
extended partitioning.

I usually use cfdisk to prepare the partitioning.  You could do this 
while running ubuntu from the CD.

Watch carefully during the installation of ubuntu for the opportunity to 
select grub as the booter.  It's much easier than the apt-install route 
after ubuntu is installed.


alex




>
> -- 
> Best Regards
> zhihang wang
> -- 
> Best Regards
> zhihang wang
>
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From jdangler at atlantic.net  Thu Dec 28 02:35:17 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:35:17 -0500
Subject: firewall
Message-ID: <1167273317.6389.241.camel@localhost>

I just upgraded my server to 6.06, and went through iptablesrocks to get
iptables working.  According to the instructions given there, it says
to put the firewall ruleset in /etc/sysconfig/iptables in order for
iptables rules to be loaded when the system reboots, but I don't have
that directory in Ubuntu.  Can someone here tell me where this should be
located?  Or, should I create that directory and put the ruleset file in
it ?

tia

John





From koalay at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 02:50:21 2006
From: koalay at gmail.com (Shu Hung (Koala))
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:50:21 +0800
Subject: Command line printing
In-Reply-To: <1167254758.11456.29.camel@localhost>
References: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167254758.11456.29.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <7609c6380612271850u219ab210xae64ac5219e59e55@mail.gmail.com>

Does this work with all kinds of file?

Koala Yeung

On 12/28/06, norman  wrote:
>
>
> > Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
> > (1) Microsoft Document
> > (2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
> > (3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)
>
> You could try  lp -d printername file(s)
>
> I often use this to print photographs.
>
> Norman
>
>
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From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:28:53 -0400
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> On 26/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
>> You need to
>> get out more - talk to a few Windows users and ask them what Java is.  My
>> guess is the most common responses will be either "Coffee" or "an island
>> in Indonesia".
> 
> What answer were you expecting? Isn't that what Java is?
> 
Of course that's correct - but you were telling us that "normal" users know
what programming languages are and would know what Java is with respect to
computers.  Normal users don't and couldn't care less.
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Thu Dec 28 03:25:57 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:25:57 -0400
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200612260754.48281.david@kosmosisland.com>
	<212696550612271621r2c326d40v7889f76800acf39f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53qb64-ssa.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

zhihang wang wrote:

> David:
>   My device.map file is:
> (hd0)    /dev/hda
> I delete the floppy mapping because there is not a floppy driver in my PC.

Did you perhaps damage it in editing (admittedly, it looks like mine, but I
haven't a clue exactly what it should look like)?  I just
use "grub-install --no-floppy" to get around the lack of a floppy (and wish
that was the default).

-- 
derek




From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 28 06:23:04 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:23:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: multimedia broke after update
Message-ID: <40979.16196.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have been searching for a file(s) on the last multimedia upgrade.  My foxnews.com video broke.  sound works, no video.  I restored my system desktop back to the state of when it was working using Ghost for Linux.  

I use Gstreamer but could not find any different related file versions.  cnn.com still works and so does discovery.com.  I install Ubuntu on my laptop, same problem, but no backup ghost file for my laptop.  Can anyone give me any hints.  

 I think I'm going to start using synaptic so that I can write down the files before updating and possibly report a bug. 

Dennis -  new ubuntu user 

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From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 06:51:55 2006
From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:51:55 +0800
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
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On 12/23/06, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
>
> On 23/12/06, Martin Marcher  wrote:
> >
> > Am 22.12.2006 um 20:01 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> >
> > > What are the differences between the GNU and Sun Javas? I know that
> > > Sun invented Java and that it was just made open source. But what I
> > > need to know are what are the differences from a user's perspective?
> >
> > referencing your next sentence you are not a normal user (university
> > work) most users don't even know what java is. And if your university
> > expects you to do homework/seminar/whatever work in java, save
> > yourself the hassle and use Sun's java.
>
> Oh, university work is not considered normal? I didn't think so, either :)
> I think that most people do in fact know what java is, at least those
> who know what a mouse is, and what Firefox is. I don't consider the
> uneducated-and-don't-want-to-learn as normal users.


We're the same, I'm also working on a university OS project, this is serious
stuff and it's really BIG! around 300+ campuses will use it, and ~10 million
students. I really prefer to use GNU Java, but It just doesnt' work
out-of-the box, there's too much debugging info, warnings and errors for a
normal applet. Does Sun allow sun-java-jdk to be shipped in distros? It's
one of the question that is really bothering me. After the OS project, we'll
be introducing new programming languages in the curriculum, and Ruby,
Python, GTK+ is in #1 priority. For now, I need to finish this OS work, or
I'll go to jail for contract reasons.. seriously..
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From crazyhorse64 at fastwebnet.it  Thu Dec 28 06:55:08 2006
From: crazyhorse64 at fastwebnet.it (Claudio)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:55:08 +0100
Subject: messaggi ubunto
Message-ID: <1167288908.11964.1.camel@aladino>

Chiedo scusa ma non riesco a capire l'inglese so solo l'Italiano
come lingua




From Bill.Cairns at eskom.co.za  Thu Dec 28 07:32:13 2006
From: Bill.Cairns at eskom.co.za (Bill Cairns)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:32:13 +0200
Subject: Where do I go now?
In-Reply-To: 
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which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice
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>>> On 28 December 2006 at 01:02 AM, in message
, "Senectus
."
 wrote:
> On 27/12/06, Bill Cairns  wrote:
>>
>> NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings
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>> EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE
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>> I am having problems with my USB memory stick under Dapper. I am
using a
>> fairly old machine with only USB 1.1 ports.
>>
>> I have tried "Absolute Beginners Forum" (where I belong). I have
also
>> searched the forums - there seem to have been some similar problems
>> reported on the "Hardware and Laptops" forum, but they all just
peter
>> out with no resolution. The indication is that there are definitely
some
>> funny problems associated with speeds or formats or something. But
I
>> don't see solutions.
>>
>> Where can I go from here?
> 
> 
> 
> Can you plug the device in, wait a few seconds then type the
following into
> a shell:
> lsusb
> 
> Then show what the output is please?
> Thanks

I get (sorry if there is a typo - I have to copy this - no way of
cutting and pasting!) :

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0457:0151 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super
Flash 1G
B Flash Drive
Bus 001 Device 0001: Id 0000:0000

[So at least it does see a drive!]

Thanks 

Bill



From anthonyscott at comcen.com.au  Thu Dec 28 08:05:25 2006
From: anthonyscott at comcen.com.au (Anthony Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:05:25 +1100
Subject: messaggi ubunto
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References: <1167288908.11964.1.camel@aladino>
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On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 07:55 +0100, Claudio wrote:
> Chiedo scusa ma non riesco a capire l'inglese so solo l'Italiano
> come lingua
> 

You might be better off here: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/




From norman at littletank.org  Thu Dec 28 08:54:58 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:54:58 +0000
Subject: Command line printing
In-Reply-To: <7609c6380612271850u219ab210xae64ac5219e59e55@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 10:50 +0800, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote:
> Does this work with all kinds of file?

< snip >

> Koala Yeung
> 
> On 12/28/06, norman  wrote:
>         
>         > Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
>         > (1) Microsoft Document 
>         > (2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
>         > (3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)
>         
>         You could try  lp -d printername file(s)
>         
>         I often use this to print photographs.
>         
>         Norman

I am sorry I cannot answer your question, please understand that I know
very little about Linux. However, what I would do is try it.

Norman




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 10:27:56 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:27:56 +0200
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
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On 28/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
> Of course that's correct - but you were telling us that "normal" users know
> what programming languages are and would know what Java is with respect to
> computers.  Normal users don't and couldn't care less.

I stand by my opinion that normal computer users know that Java _is_ a
language. They also know that C is a language. We may vary in our
definition of normal, and you may argue that the majority of computer
users are not in fact normal, but the "normal" users do know that.

Like cars, computers are powerful tools. Like cars, computers require
a bit of knowledge before one can operate it properly. And users
without that knowledge are dangerous, both in operating cars and in
operating computers. The normal user has the minimum basic knowledge
to operate the computer and understand it. That might not be the
majority, however, and that is sad (and dangerous).

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xmp.html
http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_hdtv.html



From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 10:34:55 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:34:55 +0800
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
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References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
Message-ID: <212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for your answer. I tried to install grub when I install ubuntu.
But there are some errors so that I can't install the grub during the
install session. So I have to boot to ubuntu from my flash-disk. I can boot
directly from my harddisk to xp. I don't want to delete my xp. But is it
possible for me to install the grub now?

On 12/28/06, alex  wrote:
>
> zhihang wang wrote:
>
> >
> > This is my disk partion table:
> > sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >
> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/hda1   *           1        3825    30724281    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > /dev/hda2            3826        7226    27318532+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hda3            7227        7296      562275    5  Extended
> > /dev/hda5            7227        7296      562243+  82  Linux swap /
> > Solaris
> >
> > When I install grub as follows:
> > sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2
> > An error message alway occures:
> >
> > cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub.
> > grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option
> > ``--root-device''.
> >
> >
> > Could any one help me?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> Wasn't there a point during the installation of ubuntu where you had an
> opportunity to install grub as the booter?
>
> Since you seem to have no easy way to boot into ubuntu you could avoid a
> lot of trouble by simply clearing out everything except your Win95 and
> starting over.  Correcting errors in installation can be a real
> drag---and you're never sure if you didn't miss something.
>
> If all you want (in addition to Win95) is ubuntu, you can use hda2 for /
> and hda3 for swap.  You don't need to get involved with hda4, hda5 or
> extended partitioning.
>
> I usually use cfdisk to prepare the partitioning.  You could do this
> while running ubuntu from the CD.
>
> Watch carefully during the installation of ubuntu for the opportunity to
> select grub as the booter.  It's much easier than the apt-install route
> after ubuntu is installed.
>
>
> alex
>
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > zhihang wang
> > --
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> > zhihang wang
> >
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From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Thu Dec 28 10:39:31 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:39:31 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
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Hi,

there is another option (althoug I wouldn't recommend it) you could  
set up you kmail not to delete the messages from the pop server (not  
working with kmail but almost every program I worked with had this  
option - even outlook express).


Am 27.12.2006 um 18:15 schrieb Dotan Cohen:

> I'd like to still have the mail stored on my local home machine, but
> I'd also like to access it via the laptop while I'm away. That leaves
> me the options of:
> 1) Pulling the email down from the server via POP3 and leaving a copy
> on the server in the laptop.
> 2) Syncing the laptop and the home machine when I get home- all email
> downloaded to one will be transfered to the other. Also, any email
> erased from one will be erased from the other.

No need to sync (in the conventional way of a "Sync Now" button) the  
idea behind imap is that you have all mail stored remotely on the  
server. kmail should be able to get the index of messages that are  
available upon connect and automagically only show you the messages  
that are actually there.

> 3) Using an IMAP server that I access via both the home machine and  
> the laptop.

exactly

> Assuming that I go with the IMAP server on my home machine, I'd need:
> (please correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> 1) A static IP (which I have)
> 2) The machine must always be turned on (which it is)

True, I'd still use dyndns or a similiar service so that you can  
access you server with a name rather than an ip. also if your  
provider at some time thinks he has to change your IP dyndns will  
catch up and you will still have access.

> 3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and store it.
> Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make the mail
> available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on the laptop.
> 4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means that
> sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was sent from.

No :)

Just set up your mail clients (on both machines) to use the same  
"Sent Items" Folder on the same server (which would be your imap server)

> 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> both machines.

hmm that sounds like a local install of kmail keeps it's own  
dictionairy of spam/nospam messages.

A solution would be to use the same spam folder and occasionally feed  
the messages from that folder to your mail client. That way the  
"knowledge" of your spam filter would be (to some extent) on the same  
level.

> Thanks. Sorry for the newbie questions. Most of what I've needed to
> know I got from STFW but there are these questions that I can't answer
> myself.

No problem, i found the largest problem with STFW is to know the  
right vocabulary to search for (which is where I regularly bail out  
because english is not my mother tongue and therefore I don't know  
how to correctly translate the words to search for - to many acronyms  
and specialized phrases in each language on the planet - we should  
all just start talking binary)

Hope you can use some of those ideas
Martin





From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Thu Dec 28 10:41:41 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:41:41 +0100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: <20061228051347.7a57d0ca.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
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Am 27.12.2006 um 19:13 schrieb Peter Garrett:

> ... and of course if you ask them what Lisp is .....

lots of braces (or whatever the correct english term for "(" and ")" is)





From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Thu Dec 28 10:44:41 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:44:41 +0100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: 
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Am 28.12.2006 um 07:51 schrieb Joel Bryan Juliano:
> We're the same, I'm also working on a university OS project, this  
> is serious
> stuff and it's really BIG! around 300+ campuses will use it, and  
> ~10 million
> students. I really prefer to use GNU Java, but It just doesnt' work
> out-of-the box, there's too much debugging info, warnings and  
> errors for a
> normal applet. Does Sun allow sun-java-jdk to be shipped in distros?

I made a distro for my university for the computer science starters  
(based on ubuntu of course :). We kindly asked some java people and  
received a written response that it would be absolutely ok to ship  
sun java with our distro.

_BUT_ we did that thru some "inofficial" channel to get the official  
permission. There is a local person that has good connections to java  
people and he asked for us.

hth
martin







From Gilles at Gravier.org  Thu Dec 28 11:05:16 2006
From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:05:16 +0100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612280227n4c8ff95cy16a60d53780a5d42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>	
	<880dece00612280227n4c8ff95cy16a60d53780a5d42@mail.gmail.com>
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Dotan,

Java isn't just a language... it's a platform. If it was only a 
language, you'd be stuck with having to compile it for a specific target 
environment / CPU / OS... but since it's a complete platform, that 
includes the specifications of a very well defined execution 
environment, when you compile your Java source, the resulting bytecode 
is capable of running on any machine that has the proper runtime 
environment.

Now this is where it gets complicated... some runtime environments don't 
run all Java applications. For example, take something that does a lot 
of fancy things, like AppGate's MindTerm SSH applet/application (you can 
download it - sources and binaries - from 
http://www.appgate.com/products/80_MindTerm/index.php ) run nicely in 
any of Sun's Java runtimes (at least anything above version 1.2)... But 
fails to run on GNU Java. I must say I haven't investigated completely, 
but my guess is that either GNU Java implements some classes differently 
than the spec says... or doesn't implement all the classes.

In any case (and particularly now that we've open-sourced it) I 
recommend going for Java 1.6 from Sun 
(http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp), either in source 
form... or in binary form. In any case, it's GPLed and will fit nicely 
next to a Linux kernel.

Gilles (caveat : I work for Sun - Gilles.Gravier at Sun.com)

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 28/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
>   
>> Of course that's correct - but you were telling us that "normal" users know
>> what programming languages are and would know what Java is with respect to
>> computers.  Normal users don't and couldn't care less.
>>     
>
> I stand by my opinion that normal computer users know that Java _is_ a
> language. They also know that C is a language. We may vary in our
> definition of normal, and you may argue that the majority of computer
> users are not in fact normal, but the "normal" users do know that.
>
> Like cars, computers are powerful tools. Like cars, computers require
> a bit of knowledge before one can operate it properly. And users
> without that knowledge are dangerous, both in operating cars and in
> operating computers. The normal user has the minimum basic knowledge
> to operate the computer and understand it. That might not be the
> majority, however, and that is sad (and dangerous).
>
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xmp.html
> http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_hdtv.html
>
>   

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From pgort at iprimus.com.au  Thu Dec 28 11:12:33 2006
From: pgort at iprimus.com.au (Peter Gort)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:12:33 +1100
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <7DAD3BD8-BFAF-49CF-BA35-A800AD44A151@iprimus.com.au>

Anybody know where I can find the iso image for Ubuntu 5.1? the Linux  
Questions website has links but they all go 404.

On 28/12/2006, at 7:20 AM, Peter Gort wrote:

> a long time ago, I installed Ubuntu 4 on an old iMac G3 600(blue
> dalmation thing) I have laying around, and it worked OK.  Then I
> needed it to run as a Mac for a while for some project work so I
> erased everything and set it up with Mac OS X 10.3, then 10.4.
>
> A little while ago I got some new computers and retired the old iMac,
> which had done sterling service and never failed in any way, and it's
> over 5 years old now.
>
> Now I have a need of a DNS server in my local subnet, I thought I'd
> stick Ubuntu onto it again.  I went for Desktop rather than server so
> that it could be used to keep 8 year old amused during school
> holidays.  Boy did I get a shock!, neither 6.06 or 6.10 live cds will
> boot to a graphical screen, no matter what options I have been able
> to figure out.  Either I got a completely blank screen or I got a
> mixed up looking text screen that said the XServer had failed to
> start.  Eventually I gave up and downloaded the 6.10 alternate CD,
> and ran an "expert" installation, mostly going with the default
> settings.  At no time during the installation did it ask for XServer
> settings, but the install completed without incident and it rebooted.
> It booted with a strange white square occupying the lower two thirds
> of the screen.....  However it eventually came to a graphical login
> screen that looked normal, and I was able to log in, but it is
> responding so slowly that mouse movements take up to 30 seconds to
> show on the screen and I've been waiting 10 minutes now for the
> Preferences sub menu to appear under the System menu.
>
> Anybody got any idea why this unusably slow thing is happening?  Box
> is an iMac G3 600 MHz, 512MB RAM, 40G hard drive all of it dedicated
> to Ubuntu, no Mac OS Partition.  Spec says "ATI RAGE 128 Pro graphics
> with 8 MB of SDRAM or ATI RAGE 128 Ultra graphics with 16 MB of
> SDRAM" not sure which I've got.  If I can get it to shut down
> gracefully I'll reboot from Mac OS CD and find out...
>
> Peter
>
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From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Thu Dec 28 11:59:54 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:59:54 +0100
Subject: my own repository
Message-ID: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>

Hello,

I'm maintaining a few servers and was until recently happy with the  
packages provided in the standard ubuntu repositories.

However I'd like to use a few packages with custom patches applied  
for the time beiing I'm either

a) downloading deb-src installing it and hoping that the ubuntu  
repositories won't override my installation or
b) building it totally from source on the various machines.

Now my target is to have a local repository with the packages that I  
create (preferrably on a single machine) and add this repository to  
the sources.list.

What I'm hoping to achieve would be packages that won't be overriden  
(using cyrus as an example here).

We run edgy with cyrus-2.2 which is linked to the wrong version of  
berkeley db if you use a fresh install (can't tell for updates) now I  
adapted the source to link to the correct version but still the  
package name reflects that it is the original package from the ubuntu  
repositories. I'd like to have a package name that reads something  
like that: -mypatchversion.deb so that it hopefully won't  
get updated by apt (using apt-get on the command line exclusively).

so any resources to create my own repository that will have the  
highest priority (or whatever the correct terms are) when updating/ 
installing so that I can be sure that the packages installed from my  
repo won't be updated by ubuntu.

Hope I'm somewhat clear on what I'd like to achieve.

thanks
martin





From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Thu Dec 28 12:01:05 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:01:05 +1100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<20061228051347.7a57d0ca.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	
Message-ID: <20061228230105.a0e316c8.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:41:41 +0100
Martin Marcher  wrote:

> > ... and of course if you ask them what Lisp is .....
> 
> lots of braces (or whatever the correct english term for "(" and ")" is)

Well, yeth - but motht folkth think Lithp is a thpeach impediment. :) In
Lithp, thoth   "( " ")"   thingth are uthually called parenthetheth ...
Bratheth look like thith :  "{"   "}"

lisp
"  1. To pronounce the sibilant letter s imperfectly; to give s
        and z the sound of th; -- a defect common among children.
        [1913 Webster] "

[from 'dict lisp' ]



From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Thu Dec 28 12:10:25 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:10:25 -0700
Subject: Firefox & Thunderbird stopped working [SOLVED].
In-Reply-To: <1220380.sBkGXdSmPs@louzerboy.org>
References: <1220380.sBkGXdSmPs@louzerboy.org>
Message-ID: 

Well since either a) nobody had any idea of how to help or b) nobody saw 
this post I did some more work on the problem and I got Firefox and 
Thunderbird working again.

I'm still baffled as to what happened.

But my "fix" was back up ~/.Mozilla and ~/.Mozilla-Thunderbird, delete 
the originals and start over from scratch.  I then just copied the files 
from the old profiles into the new.  However, unlike with Thunderbird, 
this didn't' work with Firefox so I just started completely from scratch 
(I did import my bookmarks.html file from the backed up directory though).

But if one were to work, I had hoped it would be Thunderbird and 
thankfully it did.

I still don't get what happened though. It makes no sense.

-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Thu Dec 28 12:23:55 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:23:55 +1100
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
In-Reply-To: <7DAD3BD8-BFAF-49CF-BA35-A800AD44A151@iprimus.com.au>
References: 
	<7DAD3BD8-BFAF-49CF-BA35-A800AD44A151@iprimus.com.au>
Message-ID: <20061228232355.bdbb704a.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:12:33 +1100
Peter Gort  wrote:

> Anybody know where I can find the iso image for Ubuntu 5.1? the Linux  
> Questions website has links but they all go 404.

I think you meant 5.10 ? You can find 5.10 DVDs for all architectures at

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/release/

Older versions of Ubuntu in CD ISO form are at

http://archive.cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/   

(for breezy a.k.a 5.10 )   or

http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/

Peter





From martin.marcher at openforce.com  Thu Dec 28 12:28:28 2006
From: martin.marcher at openforce.com (Martin Marcher)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:28:28 +0100
Subject: Firefox & Thunderbird stopped working [SOLVED].
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1220380.sBkGXdSmPs@louzerboy.org> 
Message-ID: <4419C807-272E-45DC-86F6-0B9D058284F8@openforce.com>

Hi,

Am 28.12.2006 um 13:10 schrieb Scott:

> However, unlike with Thunderbird,
> this didn't' work with Firefox so I just started completely from  
> scratch
> (I did import my bookmarks.html file from the backed up directory  
> though).

Not sure if you are aware of that but,

if you go to .mozilla (.firefox, whatever the distro has as default)  
you will find a directory that is randomely named. It should make it  
harder for people to find your profile and temper with it. I fixed it  
once nearly the same way you did (about 1.5 years ago so this may not  
apply any more) by doing the same _plus_ renaming the arbitrary named  
directory to the new one so that firefox found the old data in the  
"new" directory. (hope that's somehow clear what I mean)

> I still don't get what happened though. It makes no sense.

in my experience the profiles sometimes get screwed up for no obvious  
reason (bad plugins?)

martin





From amichai at iglu.org.il  Thu Dec 28 12:29:11 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:29:11 +0200
Subject: Docking KDE Apps to the Gnome2 Panel
Message-ID: 

Hi All,

It once worked and I can't figure out what I did to break it:

Once I used to minimize the AmaroK player and it would show up by the clock
on the top right of the screen - in the Gnome2 panel. Now it dosn't.

It becomes really annoying when I want to go back to an app minimized to
tray (like KTorrent) - it just disappears! I have to kill it and re-open
it....

BTW: I am running Edgy (Ubuntu 6.10).

Thanks!


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From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Thu Dec 28 12:32:16 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:32:16 -0700
Subject: my own repository
In-Reply-To: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>
References: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>
Message-ID: 

Martin Marcher spake thusly on 12/28/2006 04:59 AM:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm maintaining a few servers and was until recently happy with the  
> packages provided in the standard ubuntu repositories.
> 
> However I'd like to use a few packages with custom patches applied  
> for the time beiing I'm either
> 
> a) downloading deb-src installing it and hoping that the ubuntu  
> repositories won't override my installation or
> b) building it totally from source on the various machines.
> 
> Now my target is to have a local repository with the packages that I  
> create (preferrably on a single machine) and add this repository to  
> the sources.list.
> 
> What I'm hoping to achieve would be packages that won't be overriden  
> (using cyrus as an example here).

APT Pinning would be your best bet. You can give your repository 
priority over any others.

$ man apt_preferences

http://www.google.com/search?q=apt+pinning+howto

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/


-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 12:33:58 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:33:58 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <2A2BC742-4E84-4F87-B5B5-585FA6C6EA68@openforce.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A2BC742-4E84-4F87-B5B5-585FA6C6EA68@openforce.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00612280433s72fe17e5pabf1e77edaabf181@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/12/06, Martin Marcher  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there is another option (althoug I wouldn't recommend it) you could
> set up you kmail not to delete the messages from the pop server (not
> working with kmail but almost every program I worked with had this
> option - even outlook express).

I was thinking about that, but then I'd have to maintain two seperate,
redundant email systems (filing twice, adding contacts twice, managing
filters twice).

> > I'd like to still have the mail stored on my local home machine, but
> > I'd also like to access it via the laptop while I'm away. That leaves
> > me the options of:
> > 1) Pulling the email down from the server via POP3 and leaving a copy
> > on the server in the laptop.
> > 2) Syncing the laptop and the home machine when I get home- all email
> > downloaded to one will be transfered to the other. Also, any email
> > erased from one will be erased from the other.
>
> No need to sync (in the conventional way of a "Sync Now" button) the
> idea behind imap is that you have all mail stored remotely on the
> server. kmail should be able to get the index of messages that are
> available upon connect and automagically only show you the messages
> that are actually there.

Yes, I understand that. Actually, I'd prefer a Sync Now button! Maybe
I should look into KitchenSync to see if it wil provide this.

> > 3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and store it.
> > Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make the mail
> > available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on the laptop.
> > 4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means that
> > sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was sent from.
>
> No :)
>
> Just set up your mail clients (on both machines) to use the same
> "Sent Items" Folder on the same server (which would be your imap server)

Ah, I did not realize that sent mail would be reported back to the
IMAP server. Very nice.

> > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> > both machines.
>
> hmm that sounds like a local install of kmail keeps it's own
> dictionairy of spam/nospam messages.
>
> A solution would be to use the same spam folder and occasionally feed
> the messages from that folder to your mail client. That way the
> "knowledge" of your spam filter would be (to some extent) on the same
> level.

bogofilter doesn't store the whole spam message. When an email is
marked as spam/ham it does analyze it, but the whole message may then
be deleted.

> > Thanks. Sorry for the newbie questions. Most of what I've needed to
> > know I got from STFW but there are these questions that I can't answer
> > myself.
>
> No problem, i found the largest problem with STFW is to know the
> right vocabulary to search for (which is where I regularly bail out
> because english is not my mother tongue and therefore I don't know
> how to correctly translate the words to search for - to many acronyms
> and specialized phrases in each language on the planet - we should
> all just start talking binary)

Yes, my problem exacty. I didn't even know to start googling postfix
unti lI was it mentioned. And English terminology is so inconsistent-
why can't everyone just speak Hebrew?!? :)

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/360/motley_crue.php
http://essentialinux.com/source.php



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 12:39:07 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:39:07 +0200
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: <4593A4EC.2070200@Gravier.org>
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612280227n4c8ff95cy16a60d53780a5d42@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593A4EC.2070200@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <880dece00612280439j414f2ce5ka16ba5f2487d966f@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/12/06, Gilles Gravier  wrote:
> Dotan,
>
> Java isn't just a language... it's a platform. If it was only a
> language, you'd be stuck with having to compile it for a specific target
> environment / CPU / OS... but since it's a complete platform, that
> includes the specifications of a very well defined execution
> environment, when you compile your Java source, the resulting bytecode
> is capable of running on any machine that has the proper runtime
> environment.

Er, so now I've been proven a normal computer user: even I didn't know
correctly what Java is! Thank you for the correction.

> Now this is where it gets complicated... some runtime environments don't
> run all Java applications. For example, take something that does a lot
> of fancy things, like AppGate's MindTerm SSH applet/application (you can
> download it - sources and binaries - from
> http://www.appgate.com/products/80_MindTerm/index.php ) run nicely in
> any of Sun's Java runtimes (at least anything above version 1.2)... But
> fails to run on GNU Java. I must say I haven't investigated completely,
> but my guess is that either GNU Java implements some classes differently
> than the spec says... or doesn't implement all the classes.

That would make it not a "proper" runtime environment, as per your
previous paragraph.

> In any case (and particularly now that we've open-sourced it) I
> recommend going for Java 1.6 from Sun
> (http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp), either in source
> form... or in binary form. In any case, it's GPLed and will fit nicely
> next to a Linux kernel.

Excellent. Say "thank you" to yourself and your coworkers on my
behalf. Great work.

> Gilles (caveat : I work for Sun - Gilles.Gravier at Sun.com)

Yep, the previous paragraph gave that away!

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html
http://dotancohen.com/photoalbum/images/index.htm



From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Thu Dec 28 12:43:17 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:43:17 +1100
Subject: Where do I go now?
In-Reply-To: <45938F1D.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
References: 
	<2c8763bb0612170107p3d386dd4p78521f62402c5980@mail.gmail.com>
	<459276FF.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
	
	<45938F1D.FA86.003B.0@eskom.co.za>
Message-ID: <20061228234317.1b6758c6.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>


Bill Cairns wrote:

[snips]

>> I am having problems with my USB memory stick under Dapper. I am
using a
>> fairly old machine with only USB 1.1 ports.

[snips]

> I get (sorry if there is a typo - I have to copy this - no way of
> cutting and pasting!) :
> 
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0457:0151 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super
> Flash 1G
> B Flash Drive
> Bus 001 Device 0001: Id 0000:0000
> 
> [So at least it does see a drive!]

http://www.phoronix.com/lch/?k=entry&l=40&t=Transcend%20JetFlash%20110%201GB%20USB%20Drive

that's the first hit I got on google for 
Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.Super Flash 1G  B Flash Drive

I wonder if the problem is that the device is USB 2 and you have only USB
1 on your machine? Do you see any output when you plug it in and then issue

dmesg | tail       ?

For comparison purposes when I plug in my 1GB USB stick I get

$ dmesg | tail
[17329376.648000] sda: Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08
[17329376.648000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[17329376.660000] SCSI device sda: 2002000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1025 MB)
[17329376.660000] sda: Write Protect is off
[17329376.660000] sda: Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08
[17329376.660000] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[17329376.660000]  sda: sda1
[17329376.664000] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
[17329376.704000] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[17329377.436000] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT
filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

This tells me that the device has been automatically mounted
as /dev/sda1 , and it appears as /media/usbdisk when nautilus pops up
( also automatically)

It also appears in "Computer" - in my case as "USBDisk RunDisk: usbdisk"

Peter







From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Thu Dec 28 12:46:18 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:46:18 -0700
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen spake thusly on 12/25/2006 01:52 PM:
> As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to
> an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in
> Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away.
> 
> What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I
> know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks.
> 

I only have one computer but I run multiple operating systems and wanted 
IMAP because of it.  After much investigation (including all the 
software mentioned in this thread) I became rather overwhelmed.  There 
is a *lot* of configuration involved.

My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do 
the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.

But since I have my own domain and website, I just switched hosting 
providers.



-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Thu Dec 28 12:51:26 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:51:26 +1100
Subject: firewall
In-Reply-To: <1167273317.6389.241.camel@localhost>
References: <1167273317.6389.241.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061228235126.ce2655c3.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:35:17 -0500
John Dangler  wrote:

> I just upgraded my server to 6.06, and went through iptablesrocks to get
> iptables working.  According to the instructions given there, it says
> to put the firewall ruleset in /etc/sysconfig/iptables in order for
> iptables rules to be loaded when the system reboots, but I don't have
> that directory in Ubuntu.  Can someone here tell me where this should be
> located?  Or, should I create that directory and put the ruleset file in
> it ?
> 

John - personally I put my iptables script in /etc/iptables.up ( I also
have an /etc/iptables.down )  You can create those files and make them
executable, then call them from /etc/rc.local: -   or call them for example
with pre-up or post-up, post-down from /etc/network/interfaces to have them
run when the network comes up/ goes down.  For example
in /etc/network/interfaces :

iface eth0 inet dhcp
        post-up /etc/iptables.up
        post-down /etc/iptables.down

Peter




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Thu Dec 28 13:01:19 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:01:19 +1100
Subject: Docking KDE Apps to the Gnome2 Panel
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20061229000119.d59f8e88.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:29:11 +0200
"Amichai Rotman"  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> It once worked and I can't figure out what I did to break it:
> 
> Once I used to minimize the AmaroK player and it would show up by the clock
> on the top right of the screen - in the Gnome2 panel. Now it dosn't.
> 
> It becomes really annoying when I want to go back to an app minimized to
> tray (like KTorrent) - it just disappears! I have to kill it and re-open
> it....
> 
> BTW: I am running Edgy (Ubuntu 6.10).

This usually happens when you accidentally remove the "Notification Area"
from the panel. You can put one back by right-clicking the panel --> Add
to Panel --> Notification Area  ( Under "Utilities" in the right-click
dialogue that pops up )

Peter



From cjf at tow.org.uk  Thu Dec 28 13:25:37 2006
From: cjf at tow.org.uk (John French)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:25:37 +0000
Subject: Home IMAP server
Message-ID: <4593C5D1.1010700@tow.org.uk>

Interesting thread. I am struggling with the planning of a similar 
set-up. And I had got to about where the thread has reached.

All the suggestions so far have specified fetchmail. At about this 
point, I stumbled on getmail. Their respective advocates both suggest 
the other is deficient, which may mean both are OK.

Any wisdom available ?

John French




From woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 28 13:31:21 2006
From: woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net (Dave Woyciesjes)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:31:21 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>

Scott wrote:
> ... 
> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do 
> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
> ...
Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?

-- 
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--- ICQ# 905818
--- AIM - woyciesjes

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From rlarson at skypoint.com  Thu Dec 28 13:51:19 2006
From: rlarson at skypoint.com (Richard Larson)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:51:19 -0600
Subject: wvdial
Message-ID: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>

I'm new to ubuntu and I'm using wvdial to get online. How does one drop the
carrier and disconnect from my isp using wvdial?  The only methods I know of
are to shut down the computer or reboot. There's gotta be an easier way.




From news at pointerstop.ca  Thu Dec 28 14:08:27 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:08:27 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <4593C5D1.1010700@tow.org.uk>
Message-ID: 

John French wrote:

> Interesting thread. I am struggling with the planning of a similar
> set-up. And I had got to about where the thread has reached.
> 
> All the suggestions so far have specified fetchmail. At about this
> point, I stumbled on getmail. Their respective advocates both suggest
> the other is deficient, which may mean both are OK.

I have used both - I tried getmail after hearing about
fetchmail's "deficiencies".  In hindsight, I don't believe there was such a
problem, but I _did_ have problems with getmail (I don't remember
specifics, but it was some years ago, and I don't think I could establish
an ssh tunnel for my SMTP, which I needed at the time).

In any case, in more than 5 years of fetchmail, I don't think it's ever lost
a mail
-- 
derek




From davidbteague at verizon.net  Thu Dec 28 14:14:52 2006
From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:14:52 -0500
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
Message-ID: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>


I am a Windows refugee. I used and managed Unix 5.x and Linux in the 
early 90s (Slackware and Debian 1.x). For 5 or 6 years I have used only 
XP from the University  where the license allowed us to use the 
University's corporate version at home. I had Libranet but I never got 
the hang of it because I was too damn busy with my University teaching 
job, and I was able to do my job using Windows. I  retired and would 
like to put Linux on my machine(s). Ubuntu Linux. 

OK. Questions:

1) If I understand correctly, Nautilus is a "Windows Explorer" for 
Linux.  Is there a document I can download or a book I can buy  that 
tells me how to do the things I do with Windows? (I do use OO.o, 
Thunderbird, and Firefox, so that part will be easy.)

My system has a Radeon 9200 AGP video, ViewSonic 17 inch flat monitor, 
Sempron 2800 processor, 1 GB  333 MHz RAM, and two 80 GB drives, Verizon 
DSL with a Westel 327W modem/router and with the hardware firewall enabled.

2) Shouldn't that run Ubuntu or Kubuntu at a speed as fast as it does XP?

3) What do I tell the Ubuntu installation about my IP number? I should 
be able to query Windows about the IP number it is using. I would guess 
I can use that. Can someone tell me how to do this? The bootable CD 
finds the internet automatically.

Warm Regards
David Teague




From news at pointerstop.ca  Thu Dec 28 14:15:06 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:15:06 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A2BC742-4E84-4F87-B5B5-585FA6C6EA68@openforce.com>
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Message-ID: 

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> On 28/12/06, Martin Marcher  wrote:
>>
>> Just set up your mail clients (on both machines) to use the same
>> "Sent Items" Folder on the same server (which would be your imap server)
> 
> Ah, I did not realize that sent mail would be reported back to the
> IMAP server. Very nice.

Not _by default_ but certainly an option.
> 
>> > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
>> > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
>> > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
>> > both machines.

You wouldn't put bogofilter in the IMAP server - it would go in the MTA or
MDA.  I haven't tried it with postfix, but I used to do it with
Spamassassin and Exim (very slow...).  If you were going the MDA route, you
could even pipe the whole thing through bogofilter before dropping it in
the MDA.
>>

> Yes, my problem exacty. I didn't even know to start googling postfix
> unti lI was it mentioned. And English terminology is so inconsistent-
> why can't everyone just speak Hebrew?!? :)

LOL.  Isn't the technical jargon just English in Hebrew characters?
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Thu Dec 28 14:23:58 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:23:58 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	 <4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: 

Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

> Scott wrote:
>> ...
>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do
>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
>> ...
> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
> 
Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP. 
Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're providing
it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via IMAP.
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Thu Dec 28 14:28:44 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:28:44 -0400
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

zhihang wang wrote:

> Thank you for your answer. I tried to install grub when I install ubuntu.
> But there are some errors so that I can't install the grub during the
> install session. So I have to boot to ubuntu from my flash-disk. I can
> boot directly from my harddisk to xp. I don't want to delete my xp. But is
> it possible for me to install the grub now?

Yes.  I booted the live CD, then switched to a console and:

# mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --no-floppy (hd0)

You might, perhaps, need the "--modules=ext2", but I wouldn't expect it to
be needed.  If that leaves you without an entry to XP, you can fix that in
grub after you reboot - everything you need is likely there and commented
out.
-- 
derek




From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 14:43:01 2006
From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:43:01 +0000
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

On 12/28/06, David B Teague  wrote:
>
> I am a Windows refugee. [snip]

Welcome!

>
> OK. Questions:
>
> 1) If I understand correctly, Nautilus is a "Windows Explorer" for
> Linux.  Is there a document I can download or a book I can buy  that
> tells me how to do the things I do with Windows? (I do use OO.o,
> Thunderbird, and Firefox, so that part will be easy.)

Yes, Nautilus is like Windows Explorer and works very similar. You're
unlikely to have much trouble adjusting, although there will be some
differences. In general, dragging/dropping and/or cutting/pasting work
as before.

>
> My system has a Radeon 9200 AGP video, ViewSonic 17 inch flat monitor,
> Sempron 2800 processor, 1 GB  333 MHz RAM, and two 80 GB drives, Verizon
> DSL with a Westel 327W modem/router and with the hardware firewall enabled.

The big advantage of the bootable CD (which you mention later) is that
you can try it and see if everything is working  before you install
it. It'll be a bit slower than when run from the hard disk, but you
can check to see that all the parts (such as the video and networking)
are working correctly. You seemed to have tried the LiveCD. Did it not
work?

>
> 2) Shouldn't that run Ubuntu or Kubuntu at a speed as fast as it does XP?

Looks reasonable to me (I have no experience with Radeon, however).

>
> 3) What do I tell the Ubuntu installation about my IP number? I should
> be able to query Windows about the IP number it is using. I would guess
> I can use that. Can someone tell me how to do this? The bootable CD
> finds the internet automatically.

Um, if the bootable CD finds the internet automatically, what is the
problem? That's exactly what the computer will do when you install it.
Maybe I'm missing something here. Can you explain further?

-Eamonn



From mehul.forums at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 14:45:02 2006
From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:15:02 +0530
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612280645t7657345an735179366cec9c9f@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, David B Teague wrote:
>
>
> OK. Questions:
>
> 1) If I understand correctly, Nautilus is a "Windows Explorer" for
> Linux.  Is there a document I can download or a book I can buy  that
> tells me how to do the things I do with Windows? (I do use OO.o,
> Thunderbird, and Firefox, so that part will be easy.)


It's Nautilus for GNOME which is the default desktop environment in
Ubuntu. If you have Kubuntu, default file manager as Konqueror and for
XFCe which is default for Xubuntu it's xffm, AFAICR.
For Ubuntu there's an official ubuntu book, I haven't seen it so can't say
much about it. Here's the info on it
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Official_Ubuntu_Book? .

My system has a Radeon 9200 AGP video, ViewSonic 17 inch flat monitor,
> Sempron 2800 processor, 1 GB  333 MHz RAM, and two 80 GB drives, Verizon
> DSL with a Westel 327W modem/router and with the hardware firewall
> enabled.


Maybe you will need to install fglrx drivers for ATI card. I have only
used an Nvidia
graphics card so don't know about ATI cards so well.
And I have heard about a lot of people unable to connect to internet using
USB, so
if you are connecting via USB that's one thing to look out for.

2) Shouldn't that run Ubuntu or Kubuntu at a speed as fast as it does XP?


Ubuntu works faster than XP on my machine as much as I can rememer,
been a long time I removed XP from my machine. Xubuntu will surely be
faster.
And your machine has better specifications then mine so I can safely say
that
even Kubuntu will work fast enough.

3) What do I tell the Ubuntu installation about my IP number? I should
> be able to query Windows about the IP number it is using. I would guess
> I can use that. Can someone tell me how to do this? The bootable CD
> finds the internet automatically.


Yeah then you should select DHCP and you'd be online without much
hitches I guess.
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From chrisandrachel at carolina.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 14:50:08 2006
From: chrisandrachel at carolina.rr.com (Chris Gilland)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:50:08 -0500
Subject: Intro and a few questions
Message-ID: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>

Hello
	I am quite new at Linux, very much a Nuby, so you all please bare with
me as I've only been up for about a day now.  I have a couple of
questions if someone would be ever so kind to assist me.

1.  I am currently running Ubuntu with Orca.  I am trying to find out if
anyone knows in Evolution what the keyboard shortcut is in order to
allow me to simply use my arrow keys to move freely through the content
of my e-mails.  A friend told me he or she thought it was F9, however I
treid that, with no luck.  Actually, it appears that F9 is the shortcut
to send and receive all mail.  Yes, I did think to try alt, or shift, or
control, with no luck.  The only way so far I've found to get around
this, which isn't really a big deal, as much as it's kind of annoying,
is to use my review commands, go down to the actual body of the message,
then do a left mouse button click.  Then Orca seems to move focus and I
then can up and down arrow just fine.  Apparently though, according to
this friend, that isn't really necessary.

2.  My next question is, has anyone had any experience with abcde?  If
so, basicly the deal is, that I looked in /etc/abcde.conf but I cannot
find the part of the file that I need to either modify or uncomment in
order to allow the program to encode into mp3.  I do have the
gstreamer0.10-plugin-bad and the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly codecs.  So
I know that I should, at the very least have a decoder, if not an
encoder, although, yeah, I know, a decoder isn't really going to help in
this case since I'm trying to encode from CD.  I tried using Audio
Juicer, which may I add, I love, except that I'm only in the format box
under preferences, seeing flack, lossless, or some other form, can't
recall exactly, but I assure you that it isn't mp3, nor is it vorbis.
It's actually ripping by default in vorbis, which I don't have a problem
with per say, but some times it is nice to have a regular mp3 file.

3.  My last question is, is there any program that will allow me to use
my computer as an alarm clock.  Yes, I do know I could set up a kron
job, but I don't quite feel ready yet to tackle kron.  I've been told
for beginners, it's somewhat complicated to start with.


Sorry for all the questions, but let's start with these, and then we'll
go from there.


Thanks in advance,

Chris.




From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Thu Dec 28 14:50:03 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:50:03 +0100
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <200612281450.kBSEoLE3001904@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>

>From my experience run it from the cd for two days. Enjoy getting used to
working with a machine and not against the software.

After the two days, backup wanted data on you windohz system.
Install Ubuntu over the top and enjoy the environment.
Ex windows VISTA user.

Happy new year to you all  





From dontodd at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 14:54:44 2006
From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:54:44 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 12/27/06, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> both machines.

Yes, you'd want bogofilter to run on the same machine as your IMAP
server so that no matter what machine you access your mail from, mail
gets passed through bogofilter. I've got a server set up like this,
and the process is that postfix receives the mail and hands it off to
procmail, which sends it through bogofilter and then delivers it to
the local mailboxes. All training can be done via the mail client, by
dragging and dropping messages to the appropriate folder.

I set up bogofilter and folders like this:

a .Junk folder, where mail identified as spam goes.

a .MakeJunk folder, where misclassified ham goes (bogofilter thinks
it's ham but it's really spam)

a .MakeGood folder, where misclassified spam goes (bogofilter thinks
it's spam but it's really ham)

Since bogofilter uses tristate classification now, I have approached
the unsure messages in one of two ways, either

1. having bogofilter put ???UNSURE??? in the subject line so I'll know
it's unsure, or

2. creating an .Unsure folder where procmail can put those messages.

I then run scripts via cron on the server that process mail in
.MakeJunk, .MakeGood, and .Unsure. These basically run every couple of
hours and run the mails through bogofilter with the appropriate
switches for training. I only keep one week worth of spam in my Junk
folder, anything older than 7 days gets moved out of my maildir and to
another folder outside of my mail root. I tar.gz that directory every
week or so to save space.

Since the vast majority of my unsures are actually spam, I have a
script that automatically classifies those mails older than 7 days as
junk and move them to my spam archive.

Let me know if you need details on my server setup, it's on Ubuntu, too.

Todd



From iallicock at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 15:12:26 2006
From: iallicock at gmail.com (Irwin Allicock)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:12:26 -0400
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
Message-ID: <946fbfd60612280712k31a776e5vc2f33943cf10b5df@mail.gmail.com>

if you are connecting from the terminal pressing Ctrl+C after establishing a
connection should break the connection...or disconnect. Ctrl + C normally
breaks a process

On 12/28/06, Richard Larson  wrote:
>
> I'm new to ubuntu and I'm using wvdial to get online. How does one drop
> the
> carrier and disconnect from my isp using wvdial?  The only methods I know
> of
> are to shut down the computer or reboot. There's gotta be an easier way.
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-users mailing list
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
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>



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From aradsky at ne.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 17:04:50 2006
From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:04:50 -0500
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com>

zhihang wang wrote:

> Thank you for your answer. I tried to install grub when I install 
> ubuntu. But there are some errors so that I can't install the grub 
> during the install session. So I have to boot to ubuntu from my 
> flash-disk. I can boot directly from my harddisk to xp. I don't want 
> to delete my xp. But is it possible for me to install the grub now?


If you had errors other than just GRUB during the installation of 
ubuntu, that's all the more reason for cleaning out your ubuntu 
partitions and doing a completely new reinstallation. 
Trying to correct errors that occured during installation with "fixes" 
and "patches" can be very frustrating.

THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANYTHING TO YOUR WINDOWS INSTALLATION IN hda1.  
(I notice that you have the file system W95 FAT32 (LBA) in hda1 and you 
mention that you have Windows XP installed-------?????)

Save yourself a lot of frustration and just do a completely new 
installation of ubuntu and use care to prevent errors during the 
installation.


>
>
> On 12/28/06, *alex* > wrote:
>
>     zhihang wang wrote:
>
>     >
>     > This is my disk partion table:
>     > sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l
>     >
>     > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
>     > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
>     > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>     >
>     >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>     > /dev/hda1   *           1        3825    30724281    c  W95
>     FAT32 (LBA)
>     > /dev/hda2            3826        7226    27318532+  83  Linux
>     > /dev/hda3            7227        7296      562275    5  Extended
>     > /dev/hda5            7227        7296      562243+  82  Linux swap /
>     > Solaris
>     >
>     > When I install grub as follows:
>     > sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2
>     > An error message alway occures:
>     >
>     > cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub.
>     > grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the option
>     > ``--root-device''.
>     >
>     >
>     > Could any one help me?
>     >
>     > Best regards
>     >
>     Wasn't there a point during the installation of ubuntu where you
>     had an
>     opportunity to install grub as the booter?
>
>     Since you seem to have no easy way to boot into ubuntu you could
>     avoid a
>     lot of trouble by simply clearing out everything except your Win95 and
>     starting over.  Correcting errors in installation can be a real
>     drag---and you're never sure if you didn't miss something.
>
>     If all you want (in addition to Win95) is ubuntu, you can use hda2
>     for /
>     and hda3 for swap.  You don't need to get involved with hda4, hda5 or
>     extended partitioning.
>
>     I usually use cfdisk to prepare the partitioning.  You could do this
>     while running ubuntu from the CD.
>
>     Watch carefully during the installation of ubuntu for the
>     opportunity to
>     select grub as the booter.  It's much easier than the apt-install
>     route
>     after ubuntu is installed.
>
>
>     alex
>
>
>
>
>     >
>     > --
>     > Best Regards
>     > zhihang wang
>     > --
>     > Best Regards
>     > zhihang wang
>     >
>     >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     >No virus found in this incoming message.
>     >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>     >Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date:
>     12/26/2006 12:23 PM
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     ubuntu-users mailing list
>     ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com 
>     Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>     https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best Regards
> zhihang wang
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/607 - Release Date: 12/28/2006 12:31 PM
>  
>




From baxrob at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 17:05:24 2006
From: baxrob at gmail.com (r baxter)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:05:24 -0800
Subject: editing savedefault entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
Message-ID: <8b1369fd0612280905i2b564f12jbddedb4ebfdda915@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/26/06, Noah  wrote:

> I changed my 'default'  setting to 'saved' and added 'savedefault'
> command to the 'Microsoft Windows XP Professional' entry.  I figured
> rebooting XP would be loaded by default.  It does not happen.  Any clues
> what I am doing wrong?


not sure if this applies, but i had a similar problem a while back.
after much googling, hand-wringing, and pitching in the dark, i
discovered that having an extra space character at the end of the
'default saved' line caused the default not to be saved.  i just
verified this behavior and submitted a grub bug report (cheers for
reminding me.)  may be worth checking whether this is causing your
problem.

best,
rob



From tommy.trussell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 17:05:50 2006
From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:05:50 -0600
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
Message-ID: <3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, Richard Larson  wrote:
> I'm new to ubuntu and I'm using wvdial to get online. How does one drop the
> carrier and disconnect from my isp using wvdial?  The only methods I know of
> are to shut down the computer or reboot. There's gotta be an easier way.

Doesn't wvdial create the setup so the system can respond to the pon
and poff commands? (pon to make the connection and poff to hang up)
These can be issued in a terminal OR you can create icons in your
panel to call the commands.

I don't have a dialup system right here to check...



From tommy.trussell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 17:12:29 2006
From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:12:29 -0600
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: <4593A4EC.2070200@Gravier.org>
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612280227n4c8ff95cy16a60d53780a5d42@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593A4EC.2070200@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <3c5484cf0612280912g6345a544t6b8f27edd67a60a@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, Gilles Gravier  wrote:
> In any case (and particularly now that we've open-sourced it) I
> recommend going for Java 1.6 from Sun
> (http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp), either in source
> form... or in binary form. In any case, it's GPLed and will fit nicely
> next to a Linux kernel.

Will there ever be a SUN binary package for PowerPC? Alternatively, do
you know whether the source will easily compile on non Intel
architectures?



From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr  Thu Dec 28 17:28:22 2006
From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:28:22 +0100
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <1375fd8a0612280645t7657345an735179366cec9c9f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
	<1375fd8a0612280645t7657345an735179366cec9c9f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061228182822.207c4f59.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>

mehul  wrote:
> Ubuntu. If you have Kubuntu, default file manager as Konqueror and for
> XFCe which is default for Xubuntu it's xffm, AFAICR.

Nope, XFCE now uses "Thunar" as its file manager.
It looks a ibt like Nautilus, but better (more snappy).
It's still not very mature though, I find it lacks some nice features
from Nautilus, but, as a basic file manager, it works fine, at least
from the little I saw of it last time I tried Xubuntu.

--
Vince



From Gilles at Gravier.org  Thu Dec 28 17:43:09 2006
From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:43:09 +0100
Subject: GNU Java vs. Sun Java: What's the difference, what is better?
In-Reply-To: <3c5484cf0612280912g6345a544t6b8f27edd67a60a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612221101nb4bcd01r6087dd352fe632ae@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612230538y51b37b73ld32bbb19bf445811@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612251237p135fa7dfwf8ce76681eaeed89@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612271549i2c15956fp61be2cafa85d5c1@mail.gmail.com>		<880dece00612280227n4c8ff95cy16a60d53780a5d42@mail.gmail.com>	<4593A4EC.2070200@Gravier.org>
	<3c5484cf0612280912g6345a544t6b8f27edd67a60a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4594022D.5030009@Gravier.org>

Unfortunately I have no answer to these questions.

I think we need to wait a bit before we start seeing more and more 
different ports of Sun's JDK / JRE to alternative platforms... but 
because it's GPLed, I think the overall result is that more ports will 
be made available for various platforms... all will benefit. That's the 
advantage of the viral license we chose (GPL)... :)

Gilles.

Tommy Trussell wrote:
> On 12/28/06, Gilles Gravier  wrote:
>   
>> In any case (and particularly now that we've open-sourced it) I
>> recommend going for Java 1.6 from Sun
>> (http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp), either in source
>> form... or in binary form. In any case, it's GPLed and will fit nicely
>> next to a Linux kernel.
>>     
>
> Will there ever be a SUN binary package for PowerPC? Alternatively, do
> you know whether the source will easily compile on non Intel
> architectures?
>
>   

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From ed.smits at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 17:51:52 2006
From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:51:52 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
	
	
Message-ID: 

While doing some googling on the topic came across the following:

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068

"Bug #66068: New iPod nano recognized as via raid member"

turns out it is a bug and a patch is available to fix the problem

http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/

I'll test it out tonight.

ED

On 12/27/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> More on the new iPod problem outlined below, maybe this might help.
> Unfortunately I'm out of my league here...
>
> 1) when I do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/" the iPod is
> mounted, however Amarok reports that the user doesn't have permission
> to connect to the iPod. I've tried various combinations of options to
> give her permission when mounting, haven't yet figured it out,
> although that's my stupidity and I assume I'll figure that out
> eventually.
>
> 2) I added "/dev/sda2 /media/ipod vfat  user,noauto     0       0" to
> her fstab, connected the iPod. It mounted fine, but then a few minutes
> later the system recognises the iPod a second time (This time
> correctly, as an "Apple iPod Music Player"), so now we have 2 iPod
> system connected, at which point neither one works - the Apple one
> can't be mounted (dmesg says unrecognised file system), the ipod one
> says it's already mounted.
>
> ED
>
> On 12/27/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> > On 12/26/06, Mark Loeser  wrote:
> > > Ed Smits  said:
> > > > My daughter got a brand new 4GB iPod nano for Christmas and we can't
> > > > get it working with her new Edgy - the system sees the iPod but
> > > > doesn't mount it. When I plug in either of the other 2 nanos (a 2GB
> > > > and a 4 GB one) here they get mounted automatically, not her new one.
> > > > Watching the activity in Device Manager as we plug and unplug the
> > > > various iPods -
> > > >
> > > > all show up under the USB EHCI Host Controller entry - SCSI Device -
> > > > iPod, however the new iPod is listed as "Volume (via_raid_member)"
> > > > whereas the 2 older ones are listed by their names as assigned to them
> > > > in iTunes in XP when the iPods were first initialised. The new iPod
> > > > has also been initialised via iTunes in the same way.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas as to why the names isn't being properly recognized and the
> > > > iPod being auto-mounted?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers. Hope I get an answer soon - she returns home in a week and I
> > > > promised her that Ubuntu could handle it all, so far this is the only
> > > > sticky issue.
> > >
> > > Actually got the same exact iPod yesterday, and saw the same exact
> > > "via_raid_member" :)  I don't automatically mount all of my stuff, so
> > > I'm not sure about that part, but you can definitely mount it manually
> > > by just specifying the filesystem as well, for example:
> > >
> > > sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/ipod/
> > >
> > > Whenever I did not specify vfat I got saw the nice "via_raid_member".
> > >
> > > Hope that helps somewhat,
> >
> > Thanks for your manual suggestion, that at least got it manually
> > mounted and useable, however I'm trying to set this laptop up so that
> > it is easy for her to use, and getting the iPod automounted would
> > certainly be how we'd like it to work.
> >
> > Any other ideas? I'm assuming a lot of new iPods were under the tree,
> > sounds like the problem is more pervasive than just in our case,
> > surely someone has figured out how to get it done.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > ED
> >
>



From freepalestin at dslextreme.com  Thu Dec 28 17:59:45 2006
From: freepalestin at dslextreme.com (Darlene Wallach)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:59:45 -0800
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <45940611.6010307@dslextreme.com>

Peter Gort wrote:
> a long time ago, I installed Ubuntu 4 on an old iMac G3 600(blue  
> dalmation thing) I have laying around, and it worked OK.  Then I  
> needed it to run as a Mac for a while for some project work so I  
> erased everything and set it up with Mac OS X 10.3, then 10.4.
> 
> A little while ago I got some new computers and retired the old iMac,  
> which had done sterling service and never failed in any way, and it's  
> over 5 years old now.
> 
> Now I have a need of a DNS server in my local subnet, I thought I'd  
> stick Ubuntu onto it again.  I went for Desktop rather than server so  
> that it could be used to keep 8 year old amused during school  
> holidays.  Boy did I get a shock!, neither 6.06 or 6.10 live cds will  
> boot to a graphical screen, no matter what options I have been able  
> to figure out.  Either I got a completely blank screen or I got a  
> mixed up looking text screen that said the XServer had failed to  
> start.  Eventually I gave up and downloaded the 6.10 alternate CD,  
> and ran an "expert" installation, mostly going with the default  
> settings.  At no time during the installation did it ask for XServer  
> settings, but the install completed without incident and it rebooted.  
> It booted with a strange white square occupying the lower two thirds  
> of the screen.....  However it eventually came to a graphical login  
> screen that looked normal, and I was able to log in, but it is  
> responding so slowly that mouse movements take up to 30 seconds to  
> show on the screen and I've been waiting 10 minutes now for the  
> Preferences sub menu to appear under the System menu.
> 
> Anybody got any idea why this unusably slow thing is happening?  Box  
> is an iMac G3 600 MHz, 512MB RAM, 40G hard drive all of it dedicated  
> to Ubuntu, no Mac OS Partition.  Spec says "ATI RAGE 128 Pro graphics  
> with 8 MB of SDRAM or ATI RAGE 128 Ultra graphics with 16 MB of  
> SDRAM" not sure which I've got.  If I can get it to shut down  
> gracefully I'll reboot from Mac OS CD and find out...
> 
> Peter
> 

Peter,

I apologize for not replying sooner. I forwarded your email
to the person who helped me install Ubuntu 6.06 on my iMac
in case he remembers what steps we took to install. I
haven't seen him reply so here is what I have in my notes.

I have an iMac G3 blueberry
L2 cache 512K unified
cpu 740/750
clock 333.333330MHz
6G hard drive
ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro 215GP (rev 5c)

I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed on my iMac. Someone helped
me with the install. We used expert-powerpc.
Kernel to install - linun-powerpc

boot
Linux single
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

I don't remember nor do I have notes if I did anything else.
My iMac does NOT respond slowly like your iMac does.

Darlene Wallach





From tommy.trussell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 18:00:21 2006
From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:00:21 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <3c5484cf0612281000o5560917cj30fd2fe3804a80dc@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, Scott  wrote:
> Dotan Cohen spake thusly on 12/25/2006 01:52 PM:
> > As I'll soon be getting a laptop, I need to move my mail from Kmail to
> > an IMAP server that I'll be running locally. I'll read mail from it in
> > Kmail both locally and on the laptop while away.
> >
> > What IMAP servers would the Ubuntu community recommend? What should I
> > know about the differences between them before I start? Thanks.
> >
>
> I only have one computer but I run multiple operating systems and wanted
> IMAP because of it.  After much investigation (including all the
> software mentioned in this thread) I became rather overwhelmed.  There
> is a *lot* of configuration involved.
>
> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP

I have the same situation but I decided to do BOTH. I took and old
computer running Ubuntu and installed dovecot and found it to be
fairly simple to set up (figuring out the security settings were the
hardest part). I use that for my email archives. I had already
switched my email to a provider that does IMAP (there are many -- I
use spamcop.com and fastmail.fm as well as the linux hosting company
jaguarpc.com). So I have my "current" mail on the email providers and
my archived mail on the Ubuntu box on my local network. I played
around with fetchmail but there are an overwhelming number of options
so I just read the mail on the "public" servers and then I archive to
my local server manually each month.

Unfortunately I got a little over ambitious, installing all sorts of
cool software, and now I've had to scale back the goodies on my little
server -- After all it's a throwaway Compaq Deskpro with a 200 Mhz
Pentium processor (I added a 200gigabyte hard drive), so it doesn't do
very well with memory and processor intensive things like backuppc.
But it serves up IMAP mail just great.



From iallicock at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 18:03:43 2006
From: iallicock at gmail.com (Irwin Allicock)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:03:43 -0400
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
	<3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>

hmmm... Honestly I have never done that...but it does sound
interesting...something to try... mostly I just connect thru the terminal
and disconnect likewise...

The reason I do that is due to the fact that on the first connect attempt
the modem never initializes ... It only initializes on the second try.
Seems as though wvdial is a bit broken in Dapper and Edgy...works fine in
Breezy with the GUI i.e without doing any configs with wvdial if i remember
correctly.

Even in first configuring the modem with Edgy I have to "sudo wvdialconf" at
least three time before it recognizes the modem...but I guess stranger
things have happened...hehe....

Irwin


On 12/28/06, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
>
> On 12/28/06, Richard Larson  wrote:
> > I'm new to ubuntu and I'm using wvdial to get online. How does one drop
> the
> > carrier and disconnect from my isp using wvdial?  The only methods I
> know of
> > are to shut down the computer or reboot. There's gotta be an easier way.
>
> Doesn't wvdial create the setup so the system can respond to the pon
> and poff commands? (pon to make the connection and poff to hang up)
> These can be issued in a terminal OR you can create icons in your
> panel to call the commands.
>
> I don't have a dialup system right here to check...
>
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From don.maxwell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 19:42:06 2006
From: don.maxwell at gmail.com (Don Maxwell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:42:06 -0600
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
	
	
	
Message-ID: 

On 12/28/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> While doing some googling on the topic came across the following:
> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068
> "Bug #66068: New iPod nano recognized as via raid member"
> turns out it is a bug and a patch is available to fix the problem
> http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/
> I'll test it out tonight.
>
This should be interesting.  Please let us all know your results.



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 19:43:18 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:43:18 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4593C5D1.1010700@tow.org.uk>
References: <4593C5D1.1010700@tow.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20061228144318.7f220592@chisel>

John French wrote:

> Interesting thread. I am struggling with the planning of a similar 
> set-up. And I had got to about where the thread has reached.
> 
> All the suggestions so far have specified fetchmail. At about this 
> point, I stumbled on getmail. Their respective advocates both suggest 
> the other is deficient, which may mean both are OK.
> 
> Any wisdom available ?

I used getmail for a brief time but really didn't see any definable
difference. For me they both chugged along collecting mail from my half
dozen or so accounts without a hitch, but then I don't have anything
out of the ordinary to deal with in that respect.

In the end the decision of which one to use in "production" was based on
support. There's several umpteen billion fetchmail users out there and
about 11 getmail users. ;-) If I ever do have a problem it's sure money
I'll find a solution to it at Google a lot faster because someone else
has already been there, done that.

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From rvhaasteren at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 19:47:26 2006
From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:47:26 +0000
Subject: no USB in Edgy [PARTLY SOLVED]
Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612281147t398bb6e9nfb31b05f6b6b593@mail.gmail.com>

I discovered where it goes wrong in Edgy: the kernel! This is the problem:

The Edgy stock kernel doesn't let me use usb. The 'lsusb' command crashes or
gives an empty list:

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

This also happens with a live cd. I knew it worked in Dapper, so I took a
Dapper i386 kernel from a live cd and put it in my /boot. I edited my
/boot/grub/menu.lst to load the Dapper kernel for my edgy system. Now all
usb devices DO WORK in Edgy!!!! Of course there were other problems, but
this certainly shows that the Edgy stock kernel isn't perfect. I am kind of
surprised no one else encountered this problem. Anyways, should I file this
as a bug, and if so: where? And what can I do to let my Edgy system use a
correct kernel that does work with my system? TIA!

Rutger



On 12/22/06, Rutger van Haasteren  wrote:
>
> Is there no-one that doesn't have any problems with usb on edgy? I do not
> have an unusual configuration. My mainboard is a msi RS480-IL (socket 939).
> Weird, because my Dapper is still working like a charm, but it is annoying
> to have to revert to it just for printing.
>
> Rutger
>
> On 12/20/06, Rutger van Haasteren  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a strange problem in Edgy. I still have a working dapper
> > installed, but my edgy install doesn't recognize my usb devices like a
> > printer, joystick or iPod. In dapper lsusb gives for example:
> >
> > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3011 Hewlett-Packard
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 044f:b304 ThrustMaster, Inc. Firestorm Dual Power
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> >
> >
> > but in Edgy I only get:
> >
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> >
> > I have gotten my printer to work once in Edgy, but I haven't been able
> > to reproduce it. Hope someone knows what it could be...   Cheers,
> >
> > Rutger
> >
>
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From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com  Thu Dec 28 20:01:55 2006
From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:01:55 +0000
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

David B Teague wrote:
> I am a Windows refugee. I used and managed Unix 5.x and Linux in the 

Welcome!

[...]

> 3) What do I tell the Ubuntu installation about my IP number? I should 
> be able to query Windows about the IP number it is using. I would guess 
> I can use that. Can someone tell me how to do this? The bootable CD 
> finds the internet automatically.

The bootable CD uses DHCP to get the IP information. When installed 
this is likely to be the default method also.

Do you connect to the internet via an ADSL modem/router with your PC 
connected to the router with an ethernet patch cable?
This is the easiest method, and it sounds a bit like you may be using 
this common method.

Using DHCP the internet device (router, say) allocates an IP number to 
your PC.

If you wish you can choose a particular IP number for the PC (I do 
this usually, and often after the install with DHCP).

Your ISP will allocate an IP number to your connection. Usually this 
may change from time to time, your adsl modem router will take care of 
this. Some ISP accounts allow you to keep a fixed IP address from your 
ISP, these are generally a bit more expensive and more common for 
business use.

The ip adresses of the PCs allocated from your router are likely to 
use addresses similar to
192.168.1.x

This is not related to the IP address your ISP connects with to your 
modem router, which is a normal full internet IP address.

hth
-- 
ac




From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr  Thu Dec 28 20:09:39 2006
From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:09:39 +0100
Subject: Nvidia: need advise: FX 5500 or GF 6200 ?
Message-ID: <20061228210939.27d58fbe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>

Hello,

I am having to make a decision to buy either an FX 5500 or GF 6200, as
circumstances dictate.

I would welcome input from people who know better than me about 3D
cards:

Is there any noticeable difference in performance between the two ? I
am hardly a gamer, but I like to fly X-Plane every now and then, so if I
can have a better scenery, if just a little, I am all for it.

Obviously the most important factor is also how these cards behave in
Ubuntu, are there any problem with either of them, that would make it a
bad choice/no go, like screen corruption ? Open GL programs
crashing ? Random system freezes or any lovely such things ?

Thanks much in advance for your valuable feedback.... :-)

--
Vince



From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Thu Dec 28 20:16:51 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:16:51 -0700
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
	
Message-ID: 

Derek Broughton spake thusly on 12/28/2006 07:23 AM:
> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> 
>> Scott wrote:
>>> ...
>>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do
>>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
>>> ...
>> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
>>
> Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP. 
> Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're providing
> it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via IMAP.

You've been able to do this with Gmail?

-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Thu Dec 28 20:26:22 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:26:22 -0700
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: 

Dave Woyciesjes spake thusly on 12/28/2006 06:31 AM:
> Scott wrote:
>> ... 
>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do 
>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
>> ...
> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
> 

Well Fastmail does it, but you get next to nothing space wise unless you 
pay.  Top price is $40.00 per year for 2GB of space.

The other option is AOL/AIM.  They offer webmail that you can also 
access via IMAP. You get 2GB of space and you can even get your own 
domain name (for free - but you can't use the domain anywhere else - 
like on a website - yet).

http://fastmail.fm
http://www.aol.com
http://www.aim.com


-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 20:55:50 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:55:50 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> > This isn't absolutely necessary. The typical solution for dynamic IP
> > addresses is to use an automatic DDNS redirect service like Yi.org
> > or DynDNS.com. Even with a static IP and your own domain, you might
> > want to consider a free redirect unless you can reconfigure your
> > domain MX to use your home server directly. Something you might not
> > want to do for a number of reasons.
> 
> I'd use the static IP for connecting the laptop to the home machine
> only. Email addressed to me will wind up in myu POP3 box on the
> webserver, and from there I'd pull it down.

Just a generality here, but if you decide to run your own server at
all the closer you can get your home server to a "real" mail server the
better. If you take half measures you're likely to find that it's
unusable or unreliable from some locations. That's just a fact of life
when you're wading around in the world of "anti spam measures" and big
business. :(

Fair warning is all. Things always looks like they should work fine
on paper until you find out some mail server in Podunk thinks it's a
bright idea to silently drop mail with on odd Received: header or
something. You may get a "bare bones" setup to fill your specific needs
with no glitches, you may not. Can't predict the future. ;)

> > Either way there's some other minor considerations that make having
> > a "name" assigned to your home mail server preferable to accessing
> > it by IP. Most of them have to do with incoming mail and SPAM/RBL
> > stuff which may or may not be an issue depending on whether or not
> > your mail server has any public exposure.
> 
> No name will be assigned to my home machine, and as far as those
> sending/receiving mail from me, there will be no difference at all.
> The MX records will still point at the webserver and the mail will
> still come from there.

I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
either, but with a static IP and the ability to use your web hosting
server as a backup MX it's certainly is a viable option. And it would
truly make any issues that come up resolvable by virtue of you being
"the man". ;)

> 
> > > 2) The machine must always be turned on (which it is)
> > > 3) Fetchmail, which would pull the email from the server and
> > > store it. Then the IMAP server (dovecot for example) would make
> > > the mail available to both Kmail running locally, and Kmail on
> > > the laptop.
> >
> > I would *strongly* urge you to include an SMTP server in the
> > configuration. It's possible to have Fetchmail do local mail
> > delivery with the -mda (?) switch, but this raises certain security
> > and functionality issues you might want to research.
> 
> Er, I thought that was the whole idea of Fetchmail! So what you are
> saying is that Fetchmail will get the mail from the server, then and
> SMTP server (name of this program?) will devliver it to the IMAP
> server (dovecat), which will serve to multiple Kmail instances.

Sort of. Fetchmail collects messages and hands them off to your MTA
(Postfix, Exim, sendmail, whatever), The MTA or "SMTP server" routes
mail to a local mail spool of some sort, possibly by way of another
application or two if you want any internal spam/virus processing.
There it sits in the mail spool until your IMAP/POP/Whatever server
goes looking for it at your request. In other words, there's no direct
"hand off" between your SMTP server and your IMAP server, nor should
there be.

Again, fetchmail *can* be configured to insert mail directly into a
local mail spool, or even hand off directly to something like procmail
which does a fine job of that (and is the utility that's most commonly
used to link in your virus/spam processing). But such a setup is
definable as "flaky and crippled" by a lot of people, myself included.
Experience tells us that a little extra work now will prevent headaches
later. It sounds like an awful lot to go through just to do something
as simple as read mail, but it's all worth it when you're sitting in an
air terminal in Alaska "doing business" while the rest of the peeps are
banging their heads against the wall trying to figure out how to get
that 5 meg PDF to the client before the competition at "Joe's Widgets"
does. :)

> 
> > Opinions vary on this of course. I'd suggest some Google time and
> > searches on things like 'fetchmail without SMTP' and 'fetchmail IMAP
> > support'. I think you'll come away with the opinion that it's
> > generally better to have the proper tool for the proper job. ;)
> 
> Yes, lots of time on google has been invested in this!

At some point you're probably going to give up Googling and just do
it. :) The good news is you'll still have KMail configured to suck mail
directly from various servers so if it doesn't work you can burn it
down and rebuild it with little or no serious injury.

> > > 4) I'd continue sending email via SMTP on the server. That means
> > > that sent mail will only be available on the machine that it was
> > > sent from.
> >
> > Here again I would probably want to use the local mail server for
> > outgoing delivery. It keeps things "centralized" and under your
> > control. Configuring most SMTP servers to relay mail through a
> > "smart host" like your domain account's mail server is a snap
> > compared to everything else. And you can still send directly
> > through your domain/Gmail accounts from KMail if you want, using
> > different profiles. KMail does allow multiple send profiles, right?
> > It's been a while....
> 
> I'll look into that, but I'd like to know what it the advantage of
> adding yet _another_ link to the chain. The outgoing mail remains
> simple. Why make it complicated as well?

*shrug*

Why do you want to mess with incoming mail? The same logic you're
following to justify setting up a centralized collection point applies
to outgoing mail. If you want "simple" install XP and Outlook Express
everywhere, and just use the servers you're using now. ;-)

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From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org  Thu Dec 28 20:20:12 2006
From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:20:12 +0100
Subject: Intro and a few questions
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
Message-ID: <87ac1793ib.fsf@fjellstad.org>

Chris Gilland  writes:

> 2.  My next question is, has anyone had any experience with abcde?  If
> so, basicly the deal is, that I looked in /etc/abcde.conf but I cannot
> find the part of the file that I need to either modify or uncomment in
> order to allow the program to encode into mp3.  I do have the
> gstreamer0.10-plugin-bad and the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly codecs.  So
> I know that I should, at the very least have a decoder, if not an
> encoder, although, yeah, I know, a decoder isn't really going to help in
> this case since I'm trying to encode from CD.  I tried using Audio
> Juicer, which may I add, I love, except that I'm only in the format box
> under preferences, seeing flack, lossless, or some other form, can't
> recall exactly, but I assure you that it isn't mp3, nor is it vorbis.
> It's actually ripping by default in vorbis, which I don't have a problem
> with per say, but some times it is nice to have a regular mp3 file.

If you have lame installed, abcde will encode to mp3 using the -o option
(ie. abcde -o mp3). The variable OUTPUTTYPE is the default output type
that abcde will encode to if you don't specify the -o option.

-- 
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From rkimber at ntlworld.com  Thu Dec 28 21:09:09 2006
From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:09:09 +0000
Subject: Nvidia: need advise: FX 5500 or GF 6200 ?
In-Reply-To: <20061228210939.27d58fbe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
References: <20061228210939.27d58fbe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
Message-ID: <20061228210909.c5671a76.rkimber@ntlworld.com>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:09:39 +0100
Vincent Trouilliez wrote:

> Obviously the most important factor is also how these cards behave in
> Ubuntu, are there any problem with either of them, that would make it
> a bad choice/no go, like screen corruption ? Open GL programs
> crashing ? Random system freezes or any lovely such things ?

6200 works fine for me.  I've had no system freezes or crashes that I
could attribute to the card, but I don't do much 3D.  (amd64x2, Ubuntu
6.06.1).

- Richard.
-- 
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http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/



From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr  Thu Dec 28 21:16:40 2006
From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:16:40 +0100
Subject: Nvidia: need advise: FX 5500 or GF 6200 ?
In-Reply-To: <20061228210909.c5671a76.rkimber@ntlworld.com>
References: <20061228210939.27d58fbe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
	<20061228210909.c5671a76.rkimber@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <20061228221640.bc9c8a5c.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>

R Kimber  wrote:
> 6200 works fine for me.  I've had no system freezes or crashes that I
> could attribute to the card, but I don't do much 3D.

You mean, you don't use the proprietary ("nvidia-glx" package) driver to get 3D working ?

--
Vince



From r0d3nt at pacbell.net  Thu Dec 28 21:28:11 2006
From: r0d3nt at pacbell.net (Ubence Quevedo)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
Message-ID: <20061228212811.7869.qmail@web82712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Check this forum thread on how to get the graphical install to work properly.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296870

Here is the pertinent text from the link:


After booting is complete,

1. ctrl-option-F1 (should give you a command prompt)

2. type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (return)

3. Modify "HorizSync" to 58-62 and "VertRefresh" to 75-117. Both are in the monitors section.

 4. Disable DRI (in the modules section, put a hash mark (#) at the beginning of the line containing "load dri").

4. ctrl-O (return) to write edited file

5. ctrl-X to exit nano back to command line

6. type: sudo killall -HUP gdm (return) to restart Gnome

I tried this and it worked, no slow down or anything after the install.

However, when I did a distro upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, things just broke again, I couldn't get it fixed, so I gave up.

The iMac I installed on was a 500Mhz Graphite G3 with 512MB of RAM.

Hope this helps.

-Ubence

----- Original Message ----
From: Darlene Wallach 
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:59:45 AM
Subject: Re: iMac 600 MHZ

Peter Gort wrote:
> a long time ago, I installed Ubuntu 4 on an old iMac G3 600(blue  
> dalmation thing) I have laying around, and it worked OK.  Then I  
> needed it to run as a Mac for a while for some project work so I  
> erased everything and set it up with Mac OS X 10.3, then 10.4.
> 
> A little while ago I got some new computers and retired the old iMac,  
> which had done sterling service and never failed in any way, and it's  
> over 5 years old now.
> 
> Now I have a need of a DNS server in my local subnet, I thought I'd  
> stick Ubuntu onto it again.  I went for Desktop rather than server so  
> that it could be used to keep 8 year old amused during school  
> holidays.  Boy did I get a shock!, neither 6.06 or 6.10 live cds will  
> boot to a graphical screen, no matter what options I have been able  
> to figure out.  Either I got a completely blank screen or I got a  
> mixed up looking text screen that said the XServer had failed to  
> start.  Eventually I gave up and downloaded the 6.10 alternate CD,  
> and ran an "expert" installation, mostly going with the default  
> settings.  At no time during the installation did it ask for XServer  
> settings, but the install completed without incident and it rebooted.  
> It booted with a strange white square occupying the lower two thirds  
> of the screen.....  However it eventually came to a graphical login  
> screen that looked normal, and I was able to log in, but it is  
> responding so slowly that mouse movements take up to 30 seconds to  
> show on the screen and I've been waiting 10 minutes now for the  
> Preferences sub menu to appear under the System menu.
> 
> Anybody got any idea why this unusably slow thing is happening?  Box  
> is an iMac G3 600 MHz, 512MB RAM, 40G hard drive all of it dedicated  
> to Ubuntu, no Mac OS Partition.  Spec says "ATI RAGE 128 Pro graphics  
> with 8 MB of SDRAM or ATI RAGE 128 Ultra graphics with 16 MB of  
> SDRAM" not sure which I've got.  If I can get it to shut down  
> gracefully I'll reboot from Mac OS CD and find out...
> 
> Peter
> 

Peter,

I apologize for not replying sooner. I forwarded your email
to the person who helped me install Ubuntu 6.06 on my iMac
in case he remembers what steps we took to install. I
haven't seen him reply so here is what I have in my notes.

I have an iMac G3 blueberry
L2 cache 512K unified
cpu 740/750
clock 333.333330MHz
6G hard drive
ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro 215GP (rev 5c)

I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed on my iMac. Someone helped
me with the install. We used expert-powerpc.
Kernel to install - linun-powerpc

boot
Linux single
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

I don't remember nor do I have notes if I did anything else.
My iMac does NOT respond slowly like your iMac does.

Darlene Wallach



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From ricardocastanho at uol.com.br  Thu Dec 28 21:45:02 2006
From: ricardocastanho at uol.com.br (Ricardo C O Freitas)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:45:02 -0200
Subject: laptop power management!
Message-ID: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>

Hi,

I've just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on a Toshiba Satllite M70-S3.

I just GREAT! 

EXCEPT for power management!

I want some BELLS and WHISTLES to advice me it's time to charge the batteries.

I'm using gnome-power manager for the time being.

It just SUSPEND or SHUTDOWN when the battery is on CRITICAL!!! 

No WARNINGS!!!

My current kernel does not support APM.

TIA

Ricardo
Brazil

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From ben at cvrse.com  Thu Dec 28 21:48:07 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:48:07 +1100
Subject: my own repository
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>
	
Message-ID: <20061228214807.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com>

* Scott wrote:
> Martin Marcher spake thusly on 12/28/2006 04:59 AM:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm maintaining a few servers and was until recently happy with the  
> > packages provided in the standard ubuntu repositories.
> > 
> > However I'd like to use a few packages with custom patches applied  
> > for the time beiing I'm either
> > 
> > a) downloading deb-src installing it and hoping that the ubuntu  
> > repositories won't override my installation or
> > b) building it totally from source on the various machines.
> > 
> > Now my target is to have a local repository with the packages that I  
> > create (preferrably on a single machine) and add this repository to  
> > the sources.list.
> > 
> > What I'm hoping to achieve would be packages that won't be overriden  
> > (using cyrus as an example here).
> 
> APT Pinning would be your best bet. You can give your repository 
> priority over any others.
> 
> $ man apt_preferences
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=apt+pinning+howto
> 
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
> 

and as for the repository try falcon, its easy to set up and works a treat
along with pinning.

http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/edgy-seveas/all/


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From tommy.trussell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 22:06:01 2006
From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:06:01 -0600
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
	<3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c5484cf0612281406v464e04dbr48905ea0fd159af2@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, Irwin Allicock  wrote:
> Even in first configuring the modem with Edgy I have to "sudo wvdialconf" at
> least three time before it recognizes the modem...

I believe you only need the wvdialconf command to "build" the
wvdial.conf file. There's probably a section in the program where you
test the configuration, but once it's all done (once the wvdial.conf
file is created) all you have to do is issue the pon command to
connect, and the poff command to hang up.

If your regular user account cannot issue those commands without using
sudo, make sure that user has been added to the dialout group. (AND if
you weren't in the group, be sure to log out and log back in before
trying, because the group doesn't take effect without a fresh login.)

As for it not "recognizing" the modem, that could be another issue.



From bajwa at fossfp.org  Thu Dec 28 22:13:51 2006
From: bajwa at fossfp.org (Fouad Riaz Bajwa)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:13:51 +0500
Subject: "No serving hosts found" shows up instead of login when laptop boots
Message-ID: 

Hi Guys, 

In continuation of my earlier request for help, when I switch on my laptop,
as screen shows up showing host configuration search box stating "No serving
hosts found" instead of login. Kindly help me to remove this!

"No serving hosts were found." with a place to add host,
help/refresh/cancel/connect buttons.

Similar threads can be read here
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251142 


Regards
-----------------------
Fouad

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From davidbteague at verizon.net  Thu Dec 28 22:30:21 2006
From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:30:21 -0500
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net> 
Message-ID: <4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>

ac wrote:
> David B Teague wrote:
>   
> 
>> 3) What do I tell the Ubuntu installation about my IP number? 
> The bootable CD uses DHCP to get the IP information. When installed 
> this is likely to be the default method also.
>
> Do you connect to the internet via an ADSL modem/router with your PC 
> connected to the router with an ethernet patch cable?
>   
Yes .
> 
>
> Using DHCP the internet device (router, say) allocates an IP number to 
> your PC.
>
> 
>
>
> The ip adresses of the PCs allocated from your router are likely to 
> use addresses similar to
> 192.168.1.x
>
> This is not related to the IP address your ISP connects with to your 
> modem router, which is a normal full internet IP address.
>   
I think I understand, and I believe my Windows PC gets its IP number for 
my home network from the Westel Modem/Router via DHCP  (The current 
local network IP number is 192.186.1.1) and I recall that the router 
does address translation between the net and my machine. I have not 
thought network things in a long time.

So  I install Ubuntu and specify DHCP instead of providing an IP number 
and the modem will provide the IP number?

Many thanks to all who replied to my inquiry.

Warm Regards
David Teague





From mareich49 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 28 22:35:47 2006
From: mareich49 at yahoo.com (Michael Reich)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:35:47 -0600
Subject: Network Color Printing Problem
Message-ID: <459446C3.30503@yahoo.com>

I have Dapper running on a computer with both a Dymo Labelwriter printer 
and an HP Officejet 6110 (all in one) printer attached.  I can print 
from the linux box to these printers.  I have a home network with WinXP 
(SP2) computers as well as the linux box.  The three machines can all 
see each other and I am able to share folders among them. 

The issue I'm having is the HP printer.  While I can print to it from my 
XP laptop, I cannot print to it in color.  Everything, including the XP 
test page, is in black and white.  From Dapper, color prints fine (test 
page is all I've tried).  I can't figure out what has happened, but the 
XP test page (and the printer properties) indicate that there is no 
color support.  Other details include

printer name:    \\http://BORIS-UBUNTU:631\OfficeJet6110
printer model:  HP OfficeJet
Color support: No
Port name:  http://boris-ubuntu:631/printers/Officejet-6110
data format:  RAW
driver name: UNIDRV.DLL
data file:   HPOFFJET.GPD
config file:  UNIDRVUI.DLL
Help file:    UNIDRV.HLP
Driver version:  5.00
Environment:  Windows NT x86

Can someone please tell me how to remedy this?  I want the ability to 
print in color from the XP machines.
Thanks!




From tommy.trussell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 28 22:38:37 2006
From: tommy.trussell at gmail.com (Tommy Trussell)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:37 -0600
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net> 
	<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/06, David B Teague  wrote:
> So  I install Ubuntu and specify DHCP instead of providing an IP number
> and the modem will provide the IP number?

Try booting from the desktop CD and it will probably do exactly what
you want with no additional configuration. I believe it tries DHCP
first and only asks for the other information if that fails.

Unless you need a different network setup, you will not need to
specify anything different when you install.

Are you saying you tried booting from the CD and your network didn't
work, or are you fretting about it before even trying it?

Booting from the desktop CD should be completely benign to your
existing setup until you choose to do an installation.



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 22:39:17 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:39:17 -0500
Subject: Intro and a few questions
In-Reply-To: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
Message-ID: <20061228173917.16a25b5e@chisel>

Chris Gilland wrote:

> 3.  My last question is, is there any program that will allow me to
> use my computer as an alarm clock.  Yes, I do know I could set up a
> kron job, but I don't quite feel ready yet to tackle kron.  I've been
> told for beginners, it's somewhat complicated to start with.

One solution I ran across (I don't actually use it much) is a plugin
for XMMS called "Alarm". I have v0.3.7 installed via 'apt-get
xmms-alarm' but I'm not sure which repository it comes from. Or...

http://freshmeat.net/projects/xmmsalarm/

You'll of course need XMMS up and running for it to "go off", but it's a
pretty nicely featured "alarm clock". Configurable on a per-day basis,
can be set to "fade in", shuts off after a number of hours/minutes if
you like, custom playlist (I use use one with just 'Time' by Pink Floyd
in it when I do use it), and has the ability to issue "Additional
Commands" to XMMX whatever those might be.

There's also the 'at' command, a one-time-deal scheduler that accepts
it's directives in a more human readable syntax. You set it up by
typing 'at [time] ' at the command prompt, entering jobs, then
hitting  when you're done. It will look something like this
in action...

  user at host$ at 4:30 AM
  > mplayer /path/to/some/music/file/my.mp3
  >  

This would cause my.mp3 to play at 4:30 in the morning, assuming of
course it exists and you have mplayer in your path. You could always
use 'play' and a .wav file or something. Whatever you have available to
make noise in a terminal window.

Here's a link to a quick 'at' tutorial I just ran across if you're
still confused...

http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Unix/AtDemo.htm

Beyond those two options, cron isn't really all *that* difficult to
master for simple jobs. It gets a little dicey when you want to schedule
something for every other Tuesday only during odd numbered months at
4:30 am and every half hour after noon if it's a full moon, but for a
Monday-Friday 4:30 wakeup I'd create a text file named cron.txt in my
home directory, add the line...

30 4 * * 1-5 /command/to/exexute

...where /command/to/execute is however you make noise as above. Save
the file and issue the command 'crontab ~/cron.txt'. Simple as that.

The 30 is the minutes, the 4 the hour (0-23), and the 1-5 is the days
of the week with Sunday being '0'. The two '*' are place holders for
'day of the month' and 'month of the year'. The command 'crontab -l'
'lists your scheduled jobs, and 'crontab -r/ nukes them all. If you need
to make changes/additions/whatever edit the cron.txt file and re-issue
the command 'crontab ~/cron.txt'.

I'm sure there's tons of other ways to do it, maybe even a slick Gnome
Panel applet or something, but that should get you to work on time this
week at least. ;)

Enjoy!

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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 22:49:58 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:49:58 -0500
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net> 
	<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20061228174958.497df269@chisel>

David B Teague wrote:



> So  I install Ubuntu and specify DHCP instead of providing an IP
> number and the modem will provide the IP number?

In fact, I believe Ubuntu and most modern Linux distributions default
to getting network setup by way of DHCP. If there's a DHCP sever
upstream of you you'll do nothing. It's only when you need or want to
set up static IP numbers or special domain servers like OpenDNS that
you'll be going "interactive". :)

-- 
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From rkimber at ntlworld.com  Thu Dec 28 23:01:01 2006
From: rkimber at ntlworld.com (R Kimber)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:01:01 +0000
Subject: Nvidia: need advise: FX 5500 or GF 6200 ?
In-Reply-To: <20061228221640.bc9c8a5c.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
References: <20061228210939.27d58fbe.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:16:40 +0100
Vincent Trouilliez wrote:

> R Kimber  wrote:
> > 6200 works fine for me.  I've had no system freezes or crashes that
> > I could attribute to the card, but I don't do much 3D.
> 
> You mean, you don't use the proprietary ("nvidia-glx" package) driver
> to get 3D working ?

I use the proprietary nvidia driver.

What I meant was that I don't use a lot of applications that need 3D
acceleration.

- Richard.
-- 
Richard Kimber
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Dec 28 23:04:36 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:04:36 -0500
Subject: Intro and a few questions
In-Reply-To: <20061228173917.16a25b5e@chisel>
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
	<20061228173917.16a25b5e@chisel>
Message-ID: <20061228180436.0c29845c@chisel>

Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:

Addendum:

I just realized that I forgot to tell you if you use 'cron' or 'at' the
output of whatever command you invoke will be mailed to you. This can
get quite large for something like mplayer that updates the screen like
it does. To fix this add '>/dev/null 2>&1' to then end of your
commands. Like this...

   user at host$ at 4:30 AM
   > mplayer /path/to/some/music/file/my.mp3 >/dev/null 2>&1
   > 

And this for "cron.txt"...

30 4 * * 1-5 /command/to/exexute >/dev/null 2>&1

Also, I stumbled across this...

http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/ProductivityTools/Timers/index.shtml

The top entry looks interesting. :)


> Chris Gilland wrote:
> 
> > 3.  My last question is, is there any program that will allow me to



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From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr  Thu Dec 28 23:16:04 2006
From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:16:04 +0100
Subject: Nvidia: need advise: FX 5500 or GF 6200 ?
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R Kimber  wrote:
> I use the proprietary nvidia driver.

Ah, great, the drivers works fine with this card then, that's what I
wanted to hear ;o)

> What I meant was that I don't use a lot of applications that need 3D
> acceleration.

Neither do I actually (I just play with X-Plane 5 minutes a
month average ! ;-), but when I do use it, I like it to "just work".
Also, my question was about the driver stability in general, not just
when using a 3D app. I mean, I had extremely bad experiences with an
old on-board Geforce2 when used with the proprietary driver, but MOST
of the random system freezes, screen corruption, seg faults etc,
actually happened when I was NOT using any 3D app !
So even if you never actually used 3D apps, your comments about overall
"just work"-ness would still have been very much valued !

So let's say the GF6200 just works fine with the proprietary driver
then, but now what about the FX 5500 (and the relative performance
between the two), anyone ?

--
Vince



From brian at fahrlander.net  Thu Dec 28 23:29:34 2006
From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:29:34 -0600
Subject: Intro and a few questions
In-Reply-To: <20061228180436.0c29845c@chisel>
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>	<20061228173917.16a25b5e@chisel>
	<20061228180436.0c29845c@chisel>
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Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> 
> Addendum:
> 
> I just realized that I forgot to tell you if you use 'cron' or 'at' the
> output of whatever command you invoke will be mailed to you. This can
> get quite large for something like mplayer that updates the screen like
> it does. To fix this add '>/dev/null 2>&1' to then end of your
> commands. Like this...
> 
>    user at host$ at 4:30 AM
>    > mplayer /path/to/some/music/file/my.mp3 >/dev/null 2>&1
>    > 

    Just for grins: someone over in the community section contributed a
great idea for mplayer.  See this:

ssh -Y ws02 "mplayer tv:// -tv
driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0"

    This is under my icon with an "eye" on it.  It'll ssh to my machine
upstairs, start mplayer from the webcam, and show me on the local
machine.  It's very nifty!

    The original link:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam


    Enjoy!
- --
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From bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 00:30:39 2006
From: bjorn.ingmar.berg at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_Ingmar_Berg?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:30:39 +0100
Subject: Ubuntu as Musical Workstation
Message-ID: <379ea5900612281630r15716992q61509d33ac69e776@mail.gmail.com>

I'm planning to get a new PC -probably a laptop- and a midi keyboard.
Because of this I have a few questions I'd like to have some advice
on.

* Can Ubuntu be used as a musical workstation?  That is, are there
applications that will do (more or less) the same things as Protools
and Cubase?

* How powerful hardware is recommended for a Ubuntu / Linux -based
musical workstation?  I guess the more RAM the better, and it should
have a fast HDD.  Anything else?

* Does Ubuntu, or perhaps rather the appropriate applications, support
MIDI via USB and / or Firewire?  Will any keyboard using standard Midi
work?  I think the CME UF7 is very promising
(http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-uf.html) but if it won't
work with Ubuntu I'd rather find something else.

* Are there other things to consider or that I should be aware of?



Thanks!
Bjørn Ingmar Berg



From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 00:37:43 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:37:43 +0800
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com>
Message-ID: <212696550612281637v2841a85bu51e5ca8889027ba4@mail.gmail.com>

I will try to boot from the live cd and try derek's method. I have
reinstalled the ubuntu some times. The same error that the grub can't
install always occurs. Now I have a lot of data and software in ubuntu. I
don't want to reinstall it again. I have googled the error message from the
Internet. But there is not an effective solution.

On 12/29/06, alex  wrote:
>
> zhihang wang wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your answer. I tried to install grub when I install
> > ubuntu. But there are some errors so that I can't install the grub
> > during the install session. So I have to boot to ubuntu from my
> > flash-disk. I can boot directly from my harddisk to xp. I don't want
> > to delete my xp. But is it possible for me to install the grub now?
>
>
> If you had errors other than just GRUB during the installation of
> ubuntu, that's all the more reason for cleaning out your ubuntu
> partitions and doing a completely new reinstallation.
> Trying to correct errors that occured during installation with "fixes"
> and "patches" can be very frustrating.
>
> THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANYTHING TO YOUR WINDOWS INSTALLATION IN hda1.
> (I notice that you have the file system W95 FAT32 (LBA) in hda1 and you
> mention that you have Windows XP installed-------?????)
>
> Save yourself a lot of frustration and just do a completely new
> installation of ubuntu and use care to prevent errors during the
> installation.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On 12/28/06, *alex* >
> wrote:
> >
> >     zhihang wang wrote:
> >
> >     >
> >     > This is my disk partion table:
> >     > sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l
> >     >
> >     > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
> >     > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
> >     > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >     >
> >     >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> >     > /dev/hda1   *           1        3825    30724281    c  W95
> >     FAT32 (LBA)
> >     > /dev/hda2            3826        7226    27318532+  83  Linux
> >     > /dev/hda3            7227        7296      562275    5  Extended
> >     > /dev/hda5            7227        7296      562243+  82  Linux swap
> /
> >     > Solaris
> >     >
> >     > When I install grub as follows:
> >     > sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --modules=ext2
> >     > An error message alway occures:
> >     >
> >     > cannot find a GRUB device for /boot/grub.
> >     > grub-setup: error: Cannot guess the root device. Specify the
> option
> >     > ``--root-device''.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Could any one help me?
> >     >
> >     > Best regards
> >     >
> >     Wasn't there a point during the installation of ubuntu where you
> >     had an
> >     opportunity to install grub as the booter?
> >
> >     Since you seem to have no easy way to boot into ubuntu you could
> >     avoid a
> >     lot of trouble by simply clearing out everything except your Win95
> and
> >     starting over.  Correcting errors in installation can be a real
> >     drag---and you're never sure if you didn't miss something.
> >
> >     If all you want (in addition to Win95) is ubuntu, you can use hda2
> >     for /
> >     and hda3 for swap.  You don't need to get involved with hda4, hda5
> or
> >     extended partitioning.
> >
> >     I usually use cfdisk to prepare the partitioning.  You could do this
> >     while running ubuntu from the CD.
> >
> >     Watch carefully during the installation of ubuntu for the
> >     opportunity to
> >     select grub as the booter.  It's much easier than the apt-install
> >     route
> >     after ubuntu is installed.
> >
> >
> >     alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     > Best Regards
> >     > zhihang wang
> >     > --
> >     > Best Regards
> >     > zhihang wang
> >     >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >     >
> >     >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >     >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >     >Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date:
> >     12/26/2006 12:23 PM
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >     --
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> >     ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com 
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > zhihang wang
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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> >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 12/28/2006 12:31 PM
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From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 00:42:44 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:42:44 +0800
Subject: How can I recove the Recycle Bin to the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06
Message-ID: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>

I delete the Recycle Bin icon from the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06. How can I
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From jens at dataparty-mn.biz  Fri Dec 29 01:05:54 2006
From: jens at dataparty-mn.biz (Jens Cedlind)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:05:54 +0100
Subject: How can I recove the Recycle Bin to the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06
In-Reply-To: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <459469F2.6030301@dataparty-mn.biz>


zhihang wang wrote:
> 
> I delete the Recycle Bin icon from the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06. How can I 
> recover it?

Hi Zhihang,

Creating a new launcher with "nautilus trash:" (without "") should do 
the trick. Might be better ways to do it though.

regards,
Jens Cedlind



From vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr  Fri Dec 29 01:54:01 2006
From: vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr (Vincent Trouilliez)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:54:01 +0100
Subject: Ubuntu as Musical Workstation
In-Reply-To: <379ea5900612281630r15716992q61509d33ac69e776@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379ea5900612281630r15716992q61509d33ac69e776@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061229025401.bdecbcca.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>

"Bjørn Ingmar Berg"  wrote:
> I'm planning to get a new PC -probably a laptop- and a midi keyboard.
> Because of this I have a few questions I'd like to have some advice
> on.
> 
> * Can Ubuntu be used as a musical workstation?


You may be interested in "UbuntuStudio":

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio

They are trying to build a Ubuntu derivative suited to audio production
(I just looked at their site and it seems they now also consider video
and graphics, but IIRC it all started as an audio solution)

Unfortunately, from what I gathered from a discussion on the
ubuntu-devel list recently, Ubuntu right now is now very suited to
audio production. A few audio enthusiasts asked for a better suited
kernel for the next version of Ubuntu, and the kernel devs have already
uploaded a modified kernel as a starting point for these people to
evaluate. You should probably get in touch with the UbuntuStudio guys,
join them and test Ubuntu Feisty so as to try that purpose built
kernel, and give feedback. You can find it in
Synaptic under the name "-lowlatency".


HTH


--
Vince



From aradsky at ne.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 02:36:20 2006
From: aradsky at ne.rr.com (alex)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:36:20 -0500
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <212696550612281637v2841a85bu51e5ca8889027ba4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <45947F24.3090405@ne.rr.com>

It must be that when you tried reinstalling ubuntu, you may have chosen 
the same options each time and that gives you the same installation errors.

ubuntu should install cleanly if you choose the correct options.

If you want to preserve whatever data you already have accumulated, you 
can try this:  Keep your current ubuntu and install a second ubuntu  (/) 
to another partition (hda4) so you'll have two installations of ubuntu. 
You don't need to install a second swap.

Use the second ubuntu for your testing--you can try different 
installation options  without losing  critical data in the first 
installation. If by chance you manage to get a proper grub installtion 
in the second ubuntu, you can copy the data from the first one into the 
second, then you can delete the first ubuntu.

All this may sound kind of wacky but it will give you a chance to 
experiment without losing data.



From timfrost at xtra.co.nz  Fri Dec 29 02:53:11 2006
From: timfrost at xtra.co.nz (Tim Frost)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:53:11 +1300
Subject: How can I recove the Recycle Bin to the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06
In-Reply-To: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167360791.6932.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 08:42 +0800, zhihang wang wrote:
> 
> I delete the Recycle Bin icon from the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06. How can
> I recover it?

Right-click the panel, and select 'Add to Panel...' from the menu that
pops up.  That brings up a dialog box with a range of items that can be
added to the panel.  In the section headed 'Desktop & Windows' there is
a trash icon.  Select that, and click 'Add'.  The trash applet will
appear on the panel that you right-clicked.

You can add other items to the panel that way, then click the close
button of the dialog box when you finish.


Tim




From davidbteague at verizon.net  Fri Dec 29 02:56:04 2006
From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:56:04 -0500
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net> 
	<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
	<3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <459483C4.1080102@verizon.net>

Tommy Trussell wrote:
> On 12/28/06, David B Teague  wrote:
>   
>> So  I install Ubuntu and specify DHCP instead of providing an IP number
>> and the modem will provide the IP number?
>>     
>
> Try booting from the desktop CD and it will probably do exactly what
> you want with no additional configuration. I believe it tries DHCP
> first and only asks for the other information if that fails.
>
> Unless you need a different network setup, you will not need to
> specify anything different when you install.
>
> Are you saying you tried booting from the CD and your network didn't
> work, or are you fretting about it before even trying it?
>
> Booting from the desktop CD should be completely benign to your
> existing setup until you choose to do an installation.
I thought I said that I booted the Live CD and the CD found the 
network.  (But I tend to over edit and may have deleted that!) I was 
able to do anything I wanted with the Live CD -- except to do email 
using my  Verizon account.

I was fretting because in the distant past, when network access was via 
NIC, setup always wanted an IP number. I anticipated Ubuntu installation 
being the same. I am very glad to hear that I can specify DHCP and the 
installation should "just work."

I will want to continue to use Windows for email until I get the Linux 
installation well in hand, then I'll move email to the Linux side. I 
will have more questions about moving email with Thunderbird at that time.

Warmest Regards
David Teague




From cb at lim.nl  Fri Dec 29 03:09:04 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:09:04 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
Message-ID: 

On 12/28/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:

> I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
> either

Just curious: why not? Reliability?

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From ed.smits at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 03:19:05 2006
From: ed.smits at gmail.com (Ed Smits)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:05 -0500
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
	
	
	
	
Message-ID: 

Just installed the patch, all fixed, plug in the iPod and it's
automounted and available to Amarock. Just followed the instructions
in the readme file in the directory

http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/

Many thanks to Martin Jürgens for the fix


ED

On 12/28/06, Don Maxwell  wrote:
> On 12/28/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> > While doing some googling on the topic came across the following:
> > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068
> > "Bug #66068: New iPod nano recognized as via raid member"
> > turns out it is a bug and a patch is available to fix the problem
> > http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/
> > I'll test it out tonight.
> >
> This should be interesting.  Please let us all know your results.
>
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From koalay at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 03:22:55 2006
From: koalay at gmail.com (Shu Hung (Koala))
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:22:55 +0800
Subject: Command line printing
In-Reply-To: <1167296098.11456.33.camel@localhost>
References: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167254758.11456.29.camel@localhost>
	<7609c6380612271850u219ab210xae64ac5219e59e55@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167296098.11456.33.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <7609c6380612281922r4e1460f3n32bcd1163df687a0@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try it then.
Thanks anyway.

Koala Yeung

On 12/28/06, norman  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 10:50 +0800, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote:
> > Does this work with all kinds of file?
>
> < snip >
>
> > Koala Yeung
> >
> > On 12/28/06, norman  wrote:
> >
> >         > Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
> >         > (1) Microsoft Document
> >         > (2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
> >         > (3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)
> >
> >         You could try  lp -d printername file(s)
> >
> >         I often use this to print photographs.
> >
> >         Norman
>
> I am sorry I cannot answer your question, please understand that I know
> very little about Linux. However, what I would do is try it.
>
> Norman
>
>
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From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 29 03:27:39 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:27:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RealPlayer 10GOLD
Message-ID: <930422.93947.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I need instructions to install RealPlayer 10GOLD for Edgy Eft.  I read somewhere that Totem has to be disable in Firefox. Can anyone help?

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From obsidion at ihug.co.nz  Fri Dec 29 03:52:09 2006
From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:52:09 +1300
Subject: RealPlayer 10GOLD
In-Reply-To: <930422.93947.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <930422.93947.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200612291652.09265.obsidion@ihug.co.nz>

On Friday 29 December 2006 16:27, Dennis Castanos wrote:
> I need instructions to install RealPlayer 10GOLD for Edgy Eft.  I read
> somewhere that Totem has to be disable in Firefox. Can anyone help?
  

   Where have you downloaded it from and in what form is it, or haven't you 
done that yet ?
 You need to disable the support for real media if you have installed the 
totem plugins. Does about:plugins typed into the firefox address bar reveal 
this support ?



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 05:28:04 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:28:04 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
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	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
Message-ID: <20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>

Colin Brace wrote:

> On 12/28/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
> > either
> 
> Just curious: why not? Reliability?


Mostly, but not from the point of view of the machine itself. One can
build a rock solid mail server around an old box, I just don't feel the
support infrastructure is there in a home user scenario. You could opt
for a business class feed, hell you could run fiber to your living room
and bolt a rack of line scrubbing whatnots and hot swapable redundant
dodads to the wall beside your big screen, but then you're not really
running a "home server" any more.

Even with a good quality UPS and an end user feed that's been solid for
over a year, I feel a little timid about using my "home owner" setup
full time. If the power goes out for more than about 15 minutes or a
neighbor decides it's a good idea to run his lawn mower into the switch
box that sits in his front yard I'm sunk. And I'd have nobody to
comaplin to. ;) At least with a "real" server I can zip over to the
library and still do my thing. ;)

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From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Fri Dec 29 06:08:20 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:08:20 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
Message-ID: <4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>

Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:

> Colin Brace wrote:
>
>   
>> On 12/28/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
>>> either
>>>       
>> Just curious: why not? Reliability?
>>     
> Even with a good quality UPS and an end user feed that's been solid for
> over a year, I feel a little timid about using my "home owner" setup
> full time. If the power goes out for more than about 15 minutes or a
> neighbor decides it's a good idea to run his lawn mower into the switch
> box that sits in his front yard I'm sunk. And I'd have nobody to
> comaplin to. ;) At least with a "real" server I can zip over to the
> library and still do my thing.
>   
Actually you are not sunk unless you need your email urgently.  Since a 
legit mail server will retry delivery up to 5 days, the only thing you 
are going to miss is spam.  After all that is how greylisting works.

Avi



From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 29 06:32:12 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:32:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RealPlayer 10GOLD
In-Reply-To: <200612291652.09265.obsidion@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20061229063212.44293.qmail@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's a fresh install + updates.  That's all I've done.  Maybe you need more info?  Thanks - Dennis

Rebel Lion  wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 16:27, Dennis Castanos wrote:
> I need instructions to install RealPlayer 10GOLD for Edgy Eft.  I read
> somewhere that Totem has to be disable in Firefox. Can anyone help?
  

   Where have you downloaded it from and in what form is it, or haven't you 
done that yet ?
 You need to disable the support for real media if you have installed the 
totem plugins. Does about:plugins typed into the firefox address bar reveal 
this support ?

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From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Fri Dec 29 06:56:37 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:56:37 +1100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	 <4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
	
	
Message-ID: <20061229175637.07a520ef.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:16:51 -0700
Scott  wrote:

> Derek Broughton spake thusly on 12/28/2006 07:23 AM:
> > Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> > 
> >> Scott wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do
> >>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
> >>> ...
> >> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
> >>
> > Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP. 
> > Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're providing
> > it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via IMAP.
> 
> You've been able to do this with Gmail?

  Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail 

Peter



From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Thu Dec 28 17:25:54 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:25:54 +0100
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: <4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>
	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> <4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>
Message-ID: <1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 00:52 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote:
> > After trying various tools I'm using dvdstyler which is easy to use and
> > offers enough things for me to create a new DVD quite fast[1] YMMV.
> > Hint: Don't use the one packaged in dapper/egdy and compile the version
> > from upstream yourself, since there are some issues and missing features
> > I found quite handy.
For the record, and I hope some comment, I have just made a first go at
an overhaul of the http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring.

I would be grateful if a few people subscribed to the page so they can
help keep an eye on the accuracy and usefulness of the content. This
issue of DVD Authoring is fraught with trouble as a look at the page
shows - so the more eyes and comments - the better.

Please give me some comments about the page, I would like to make it
useful, and comments are a great way to start helping.

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From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Thu Dec 28 17:28:57 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:28:57 +0100
Subject: evolution searching
In-Reply-To: <1167240690.6389.214.camel@localhost>
References: <1167240690.6389.214.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167326937.7064.6.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 12:31 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> Is there a way to search _all_ mail folders in evolution for a
> particular string?  I tried setting sender or subject contains and
> pointing to the top of the tree (On This Computer), but it doesn't work.
> I can't seem to find any info in the help file or in online searching...
I think it would work if you switched from using subfolders to using
search folders - then all messages are in the one folder. That's
something I'm playing with at the moment.

Duncan

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From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com  Fri Dec 29 07:32:03 2006
From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:32:03 +0000
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <459483C4.1080102@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>
		<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>	<3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>
	<459483C4.1080102@verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

David B Teague wrote:
> Tommy Trussell wrote:
>> On 12/28/06, David B Teague  wrote:
>>   
>>> So  I install Ubuntu and specify DHCP instead of providing an IP number
>>> and the modem will provide the IP number?
>>>     
>>
>> Try booting from the desktop CD and it will probably do exactly what
>> you want with no additional configuration. I believe it tries DHCP
>> first and only asks for the other information if that fails.
>>
>> Unless you need a different network setup, you will not need to
>> specify anything different when you install.
>>
>> Are you saying you tried booting from the CD and your network didn't
>> work, or are you fretting about it before even trying it?
>>
>> Booting from the desktop CD should be completely benign to your
>> existing setup until you choose to do an installation.

> I thought I said that I booted the Live CD and the CD found the 
> network.  (But I tend to over edit and may have deleted that!) I was 
> able to do anything I wanted with the Live CD -- except to do email 
> using my  Verizon account.

Isn't Verizon a web mail, online email account? This suggests that you 
can access your email from any machine anywhere on the internet, using 
a web browser (such as firefox etc etc) - is this true?

If so then it is likely that the process for email will be via your 
browser of choice and its facilities. If say firefox works for you in 
windows, it will do the same in linux for example. Your mail at 
verizon will remain on their machines and will not be affected by your 
machine OS.

> I was fretting because in the distant past, when network access was via 
> NIC, setup always wanted an IP number.

The NIC will be automatically recognised by ubuntu (most distros in 
fact nowadays!) and during both live CD use and the default install 
process, DHCP will be used without any input from you at all. Just 
have the machine and network normally connected during install etc. If 
in the unusual case of dhcp not working I guess more manual 
configuration would be needed. So the NIC will be configured 
automatically with a local IP number via dhcp. BTW it is usual mostly 
for the router device to want to be 192.168.1.1 and the PC to be 
allocated another IP such as 192.168.1.5 say. This is not a firm 
standard but sort of a likely convention.

> I anticipated Ubuntu installation 
> being the same. I am very glad to hear that I can specify DHCP and the 
> installation should "just work."

Ubuntu is great (I use Kubuntu), although many linux distros have used 
this approach for some years now.
(Linux is software's best kept secret!)

> I will want to continue to use Windows for email until I get the Linux 
> installation well in hand

(see my comments above about web mail?) I wonder if I have fully 
understood you here. Do you also use POP3 mail collection from a 
provider also? Verizon?

> then I'll move email to the Linux side. I 
> will have more questions about moving email with Thunderbird at that time.

I mostly use only thunderbird  (TB) for email. In my escape phase 
towards linux I first used TB on windows (and later also on linux with 
the linux TB settings to not delete the mail at the server - read mail 
first on linux, then read and delete using the usual approach in windows).

When I finally stopped using windows I had to copy the files (simple 
copy) from windows to linux. I was shocked by the simplicity. 
Directories had to chosen of course and a couple of files needed 
special care for the directory, but it was simple.

hth
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From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Fri Dec 29 07:37:17 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:37:17 +1100
Subject: laptop power management!
In-Reply-To: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
References: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
Message-ID: <20061229183717.73df5054.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:45:02 -0200
Ricardo C O Freitas  wrote:

> It just SUSPEND or SHUTDOWN when the battery is on CRITICAL!!! 
> 
> No WARNINGS!!!

There's probably another way, but I use the "gkrellm" monitor to give me
battery warnings ( sudo aptitude install gkrellm ) . Gkrellm has a battery
monitor built in, and in the configuration under "Battery" you can set
commands under Setup --> Alerts. You can also set "low" limits and "low
alarm" limits ( for instance 105, 5% ). 

The commands can be whatever you prefer - I made a little script and put
it in /usr/local/bin , like this:

#!/bin/bash
# Battery alarm sound and warning popup

xmessage "Your battery is at less than 5 percent" &
ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Error_1.ogg

exit 0

Of course, you can  use any sound or warning command you prefer. The only
downside to this is that gkrellm must be running - but in my case I always
have it running anyway, because it keeps me informed about what the
machine is doing :) The default skin for gkrellm is kind of ugly, but
there are *lots* of skins available from

http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/

Peter



From ben at cvrse.com  Fri Dec 29 07:38:24 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:38:24 +1100
Subject: RealPlayer 10GOLD
In-Reply-To: <20061229063212.44293.qmail@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <200612291652.09265.obsidion@ihug.co.nz>
	<20061229063212.44293.qmail@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061229073824.GA5258@rip.cvrse.com>

* Dennis Castanos wrote:
> It's a fresh install + updates.  That's all I've done.  Maybe you need more info?  Thanks - Dennis
> 
> Rebel Lion  wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 16:27, Dennis Castanos wrote:
> > I need instructions to install RealPlayer 10GOLD for Edgy Eft.  I read
> > somewhere that Totem has to be disable in Firefox. Can anyone help?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods

the dapper instructions will work for edgy

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From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 29 07:45:57 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:45:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RealPlayer 10GOLD
In-Reply-To: <200612291652.09265.obsidion@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20061229074557.7958.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

                      I have not downloaded RealPlayer 10GOLD.  I've added all respositories +  sudo apt-get update +  sudo apt-get upgrade + sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin \sun-java5-fonts -
that's it.

thanks for the help - Dennis
 

Rebel Lion  wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 16:27, Dennis Castanos wrote:
> I need instructions to install RealPlayer 10GOLD for Edgy Eft.  I read
> somewhere that Totem has to be disable in Firefox. Can anyone help?
  

   Where have you downloaded it from and in what form is it, or haven't you 
done that yet ?
 You need to disable the support for real media if you have installed the 
totem plugins. Does about:plugins typed into the firefox address bar reveal 
this support ?

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From brian at fahrlander.net  Fri Dec 29 08:25:20 2006
From: brian at fahrlander.net (Brian Fahrlander)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:25:20 -0600
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: <1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost>
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com>
	<4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>
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Duncan Lithgow wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 00:52 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote:
>>> After trying various tools I'm using dvdstyler which is easy to use and
>>> offers enough things for me to create a new DVD quite fast[1] YMMV.
>>> Hint: Don't use the one packaged in dapper/egdy and compile the version
>>> from upstream yourself, since there are some issues and missing features
>>> I found quite handy.
> For the record, and I hope some comment, I have just made a first go at
> an overhaul of the http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring.
> 
> I would be grateful if a few people subscribed to the page so they can
> help keep an eye on the accuracy and usefulness of the content. This
> issue of DVD Authoring is fraught with trouble as a look at the page
> shows - so the more eyes and comments - the better.
> 
> Please give me some comments about the page, I would like to make it
> useful, and comments are a great way to start helping.

    Done and done.  Great idea, guy!

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From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Fri Dec 29 08:59:13 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:59:13 -0700
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061229175637.07a520ef.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>		
	<20061229175637.07a520ef.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: 

Peter Garrett spake thusly on 12/28/2006 11:56 PM:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:16:51 -0700
> Scott  wrote:
> 
>> Derek Broughton spake thusly on 12/28/2006 07:23 AM:
>>> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do
>>>>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
>>>>> ...
>>>> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
>>>>
>>> Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP. 
>>> Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're providing
>>> it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via IMAP.
>> You've been able to do this with Gmail?
> 
>   Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail 
> 

Ooops. I misread.


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From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Fri Dec 29 09:05:18 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:05:18 -0700
Subject: my own repository
In-Reply-To: <20061228214807.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com>
References: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>	
	<20061228214807.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com>
Message-ID: 

ben darby spake thusly on 12/28/2006 02:48 PM:
> * Scott wrote:
>> Martin Marcher spake thusly on 12/28/2006 04:59 AM:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm maintaining a few servers and was until recently happy with the  
>>> packages provided in the standard ubuntu repositories.
>>>
>>> However I'd like to use a few packages with custom patches applied  
>>> for the time beiing I'm either
>>>
>>> a) downloading deb-src installing it and hoping that the ubuntu  
>>> repositories won't override my installation or
>>> b) building it totally from source on the various machines.
>>>
>>> Now my target is to have a local repository with the packages that I  
>>> create (preferrably on a single machine) and add this repository to  
>>> the sources.list.
>>>
>>> What I'm hoping to achieve would be packages that won't be overriden  
>>> (using cyrus as an example here).
>> APT Pinning would be your best bet. You can give your repository 
>> priority over any others.
>>
>> $ man apt_preferences
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=apt+pinning+howto
>>
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
>>
> 
> and as for the repository try falcon, its easy to set up and works a treat
> along with pinning.
> 
> http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/edgy-seveas/all/

Yep. It's one of the ones I use.  But in his case he was wanting to 
utilize is own in addition to the standard Ubuntu ones.


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From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Fri Dec 29 09:15:02 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:15:02 -0700
Subject: Question concerning the sources.list
In-Reply-To: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com>
References: <4592D0D1.80003@isp.com>
Message-ID: 

Larry Shields spake thusly on 12/27/2006 01:00 PM:
> *Hello everyone,
> 
> I seem to be having a problem with the sources.list, now maybe the site 
> is down, but I am not sure...At anyrate what happens when I do an 
> apt-get update, it gets too this point then STOP'S...
> 
> Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)]
> 
> Is anyone else having this problem, or is it me...???
> 
> Thanks for any help one can offer...

Ii tend to have fewer problems using one of the umpteen mirrors rather 
than the *.ubuntu.com sites.

See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive for a list of worldwide mirrors.


-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 09:23:28 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:23:28 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A2BC742-4E84-4F87-B5B5-585FA6C6EA68@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612280433s72fe17e5pabf1e77edaabf181@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <880dece00612290123o2b5a69adrd1576aa6f13c9db0@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/12/06, Derek Broughton  wrote:
> > Ah, I did not realize that sent mail would be reported back to the
> > IMAP server. Very nice.
>
> Not _by default_ but certainly an option.

Very good.

> >> > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> >> > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> >> > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> >> > both machines.
>
> You wouldn't put bogofilter in the IMAP server - it would go in the MTA or
> MDA.  I haven't tried it with postfix, but I used to do it with
> Spamassassin and Exim (very slow...).  If you were going the MDA route, you
> could even pipe the whole thing through bogofilter before dropping it in
> the MDA.

Please, forgive the question. To what are you refering with MTA and
MDA? This comment seems to imply that they are mutually exclusive. I'm
now re-confused. Which programs are MTA's and which are MDA's? In my
point of view, postfix transfers and delivers email.

> > Yes, my problem exacty. I didn't even know to start googling postfix
> > unti lI was it mentioned. And English terminology is so inconsistent-
> > why can't everyone just speak Hebrew?!? :)
>
> LOL.  Isn't the technical jargon just English in Hebrew characters?

Depends on who's speaking. Some people use English or Russian words
with Hebrew prononciation, but most people, like myself, use the real
Hebrew words. It's very annoying to hear English words in the middle
of a Hebrew sentance. :)

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html
http://nanir.com



From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com  Fri Dec 29 09:27:10 2006
From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:27:10 -0700
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: <4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com>
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com>
Message-ID: 

alex spake thusly on 12/28/2006 10:04 AM:
> 
> THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANYTHING TO YOUR WINDOWS INSTALLATION IN hda1.  
> (I notice that you have the file system W95 FAT32 (LBA) in hda1 and you 
> mention that you have Windows XP installed-------?????)

I'm not sure about the "W95" in that line, but just to clarify, you can 
run/install WinXP with either the NTFS or FAT32 filesystem.


-- 
	Scott
http://angrykeyboarder.com
© 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 09:33:02 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:33:02 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00612290133p24bcf31at652837af88277702@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/12/06, Todd Slater  wrote:
> > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> > both machines.
>
> Yes, you'd want bogofilter to run on the same machine as your IMAP
> server so that no matter what machine you access your mail from, mail
> gets passed through bogofilter. I've got a server set up like this,
> and the process is that postfix receives the mail and hands it off to
> procmail, which sends it through bogofilter and then delivers it to
> the local mailboxes. All training can be done via the mail client, by
> dragging and dropping messages to the appropriate folder.
>
> I set up bogofilter and folders like this:
>
> a .Junk folder, where mail identified as spam goes.
>
> a .MakeJunk folder, where misclassified ham goes (bogofilter thinks
> it's ham but it's really spam)
>
> a .MakeGood folder, where misclassified spam goes (bogofilter thinks
> it's spam but it's really ham)
>
> Since bogofilter uses tristate classification now, I have approached
> the unsure messages in one of two ways, either
>
> 1. having bogofilter put ???UNSURE??? in the subject line so I'll know
> it's unsure, or
>
> 2. creating an .Unsure folder where procmail can put those messages.
>
> I then run scripts via cron on the server that process mail in
> .MakeJunk, .MakeGood, and .Unsure. These basically run every couple of
> hours and run the mails through bogofilter with the appropriate
> switches for training. I only keep one week worth of spam in my Junk
> folder, anything older than 7 days gets moved out of my maildir and to
> another folder outside of my mail root. I tar.gz that directory every
> week or so to save space.
>
> Since the vast majority of my unsures are actually spam, I have a
> script that automatically classifies those mails older than 7 days as
> junk and move them to my spam archive.
>
> Let me know if you need details on my server setup, it's on Ubuntu, too.
>
> Todd
>

Todd, that looks like the perfect setup, and that's exactly what I'm
going to do. Could you please tell me exactly what programs you are
using, so that I can start googling. I see postfix, procmail,
bogofilter, and cron. What IMAP server aer you using?

ALso, please tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Postfix
connects to a remote POP3 machine and pulls the mail down. It then
passes the mail to procmail, which runs bogofilter and based on
bogofilter's response, procmail puts the mail in the appropriate
folder. The IMAP server then has access to it, and can serve email to
your client (Tbird, Kmail, etc.). Now, when you get a spam in ham, or
vice versa, you put it in a special spam->ham or ham->spam folder so
that bogofilter can learn from it. Every so often, cron comes along,
parses those special folders, and send the email to bogofilter so he
can learn. Is that what's happening?

Thank you very much for your assistance.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/opera.html
http://fedorafaqs.com



From philsf at ufrj.br  Fri Dec 29 09:55:48 2006
From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:55:48 -0200
Subject: hide linux partitions from Windows XP
Message-ID: <200612290755.48516.philsf@ufrj.br>

Hi,

I have almost always used dual boot here, but I am using LVM since only a few 
months. To my dismay, Windows does NOT auto-ignore these partitions, giving 
me useless D:, E: , drives. 

More than the inconvenient of having my CD-ROM drive letter pushed away to the 
middle of the alphabet, I am constantly startled by the possibility that 
Windows actually corrupts my main OS partitions'. 

So, does anybody know how to hide non-FAT partitions from Windows? I am using 
Edgy 6.10 up-to-date.

regards
FF



From clive at clivemenzies.co.uk  Fri Dec 29 10:38:05 2006
From: clive at clivemenzies.co.uk (Clive Menzies)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:38:05 +0000
Subject: Ubuntu as Musical Workstation
In-Reply-To: <20061229025401.bdecbcca.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
References: <379ea5900612281630r15716992q61509d33ac69e776@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061229025401.bdecbcca.vincent.trouilliez@modulonet.fr>
Message-ID: <20061229103805.GD4046@clivemenzies.co.uk>

> "Bjørn Ingmar Berg"  wrote:
> > I'm planning to get a new PC -probably a laptop- and a midi keyboard.
> > Because of this I have a few questions I'd like to have some advice
> > on.
> > 
> > * Can Ubuntu be used as a musical workstation?

You may want to check out:
http://www.musix-live.com/

It is a live CD set up for music production; it will at least give you
an idea of the packages available and their capability.

You can then install them on Ubuntu or install the live CD version.

I've downloaded the iso but haven't tried it yet.

Regards

Clive

-- 
www.clivemenzies.co.uk ...
...strategies for business





From bhirning at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 11:51:01 2006
From: bhirning at gmail.com (brian hirning)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:51:01 -0800
Subject: hide linux partitions from Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <200612290755.48516.philsf@ufrj.br>
References: <200612290755.48516.philsf@ufrj.br>
Message-ID: <5dfe07540612290351i2697d2aai5409d4d31eed2df3@mail.gmail.com>

im not at a windows box ATM but i think you can change drive and letters in
one of the administrative tools section.

On 12/29/06, Felipe Figueiredo  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have almost always used dual boot here, but I am using LVM since only a
> few
> months. To my dismay, Windows does NOT auto-ignore these partitions,
> giving
> me useless D:, E: , drives.
>
> More than the inconvenient of having my CD-ROM drive letter pushed away to
> the
> middle of the alphabet, I am constantly startled by the possibility that
> Windows actually corrupts my main OS partitions'.
>
> So, does anybody know how to hide non-FAT partitions from Windows? I am
> using
> Edgy 6.10 up-to-date.
>
> regards
> FF
>
> --
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> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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>



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From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com  Fri Dec 29 12:05:02 2006
From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:05:02 +0100
Subject: hide linux partitions from Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <5dfe07540612290351i2697d2aai5409d4d31eed2df3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200612290755.48516.philsf@ufrj.br>
	<5dfe07540612290351i2697d2aai5409d4d31eed2df3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On 12/29/06, brian hirning  wrote:
>
> im not at a windows box ATM but i think you can change drive and letters
> in one of the administrative tools section.
>
> On 12/29/06, Felipe Figueiredo < philsf at ufrj.br> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have almost always used dual boot here, but I am using LVM since only
> > a few
> > months. To my dismay, Windows does NOT auto-ignore these partitions,
> > giving
> > me useless D:, E: , drives.
> >
> > More than the inconvenient of having my CD-ROM drive letter pushed away
> > to the
> > middle of the alphabet, I am constantly startled by the possibility that
> >
> > Windows actually corrupts my main OS partitions'.
>
>
Like the poster above said you can switch the drive letters around.  However
at the following link you can also just hide the drives so you don't see
them.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555438

I did this on my other computer when I dual booted to windows a lot more.
You can also search google for 'windows partition hide' to find some more
user friendly directions.


So, does anybody know how to hide non-FAT partitions from Windows? I am
> > using
> > Edgy 6.10 up-to-date.
> >
> > regards
> > FF
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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From martin at gamesplace.info  Fri Dec 29 12:43:06 2006
From: martin at gamesplace.info (Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgens?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:43:06 +0100
Subject: Problems with new iPod and Edgy
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20061227031824.GD20709@aerie.halcy0n.com>
	
	
	
	
	
Message-ID: <1167396186.9820.8.camel@localhost>

Great to hear that I was able to help :-)

Martin

On Do, 2006-12-28 at 22:19 -0500, Ed Smits wrote:
> Just installed the patch, all fixed, plug in the iPod and it's
> automounted and available to Amarock. Just followed the instructions
> in the readme file in the directory
> 
> http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/
> 
> Many thanks to Martin Jürgens for the fix
> 
> 
> ED
> 
> On 12/28/06, Don Maxwell  wrote:
> > On 12/28/06, Ed Smits  wrote:
> > > While doing some googling on the topic came across the following:
> > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068
> > > "Bug #66068: New iPod nano recognized as via raid member"
> > > turns out it is a bug and a patch is available to fix the problem
> > > http://gamesplace.info/opensource/ubuntu/hal/ipod-nano-fix/
> > > I'll test it out tonight.
> > >
> > This should be interesting.  Please let us all know your results.
> >
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From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Fri Dec 29 12:47:16 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:47:16 +0100
Subject: advice
In-Reply-To: <200612291652.09265.obsidion@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <200612291247.kBTClgR3005015@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com>

Can anyone point me to an article that explains the file structure of ext2
ext3 please?

Regards





From davidbteague at verizon.net  Fri Dec 29 13:31:13 2006
From: davidbteague at verizon.net (David B Teague)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:31:13 -0500
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>	
	<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>
	<3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>
	<459483C4.1080102@verizon.net> 
Message-ID: <459518A1.30706@verizon.net>

ac wrote:
> David B Teague wrote:
>   
> 
> Isn't Verizon a web mail, online email account? This suggests that you 
> can access your email from any machine anywhere on the internet, using 
> a web browser (such as firefox etc etc) - is this true?
>
> If so then it is likely that the process for email will be via your 
> browser of choice and its facilities. If say firefox works for you in 
> windows, it will do the same in linux for example. Your mail at 
> verizon will remain on their machines and will not be affected by your 
> machine OS.
>   
Verizon provides a "web mail" interface that is the incredibly poor. It 
makes Unix/Linux command line "mail" program look good. I use it ONLY 
when I am out of town for long enough to need to delete some messages 
before I return. I can also use Thunderbird or Outlook Express etc to 
fetch mail to my local machine. (Is this the POP protocol?) That isn't 
an option from a machine booted from a read-only CD.
>> I was fretting because in the distant past, when network access was via 
>> NIC, setup always wanted an IP number.
>>     
>
> The NIC will be automatically recognised by ubuntu (most distros in 
> fact nowadays!) and during both live CD use and the default install 
> process, DHCP will be used without any input from you at all. Just 
> have the machine and network normally connected during install etc. If 
> in the unusual case of dhcp not working I guess more manual 
> configuration would be needed. So the NIC will be configured 
> automatically with a local IP number via dhcp. BTW it is usual mostly 
> for the router device to want to be 192.168.1.1 and the PC to be 
> allocated another IP such as 192.168.1.5 say. This is not a firm 
> standard but sort of a likely convention.
>
>   
Ah Sorry. I checked again; you are of course right about the IP numbers..
>> 
>>     
So I can expect it to "just work".

> 
>   
>
> (see my comments above about web mail?) I wonder if I have fully 
> understood you here. Do you also use POP3 mail collection from a 
> provider also? Verizon?
>   

I'm not sure what you are asking. Here is my setup:

All I have is POP (remove messages from the server as they are downloaded)

I have Verizon ADSL, and I receive email from their mail server. I also 
receive mail from another provider, Mountain Area Information Network, 
MAIN.net. Thunderbird is set so that email is automatically downloaded 
from each provider and Thunderbird will send through either provider.

>> then I'll move email to the Linux side. I 
>> will have more questions about moving email with Thunderbird at that time.
>>     
>
> I mostly use only thunderbird  (TB) for email. In my escape phase 
> towards linux I first used TB on windows (and later also on linux with 
> the linux TB settings to not delete the mail at the server - read mail 
> first on linux, then read and delete using the usual approach in windows).
>   
This sounds like something I need to do. How do I set up Thunderbird so 
it fetches messages but doesn't remove the messages from the server?

> When I finally stopped using windows I had to copy the files (simple 
> copy) from windows to linux. I was shocked by the simplicity. 
> Directories had to chosen of course and a couple of files needed 
> special care for the directory, but it was simple.
>   
Aren't there are some details that are glossed over here? I have done 
this under Windows when I replaced a hard disk.  Isn't there is 
something you have to do in Thunderbird to actually _see_ the new 
folder? What is it? I recall stuff like having to create a folder with 
the same name in  the new Thunderbird installation as it had in the old 
installation, then overwrite the new file with the old file. I recall 
having to delete the index file. Otherwise I can't see the folder in 
Thunderbird.

But you make me think I am making this job harder for myself than I need 
to.

Warmest Regards
David Teague




From torsten at ubuntu.com  Fri Dec 29 13:46:12 2006
From: torsten at ubuntu.com (Torsten Spindler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:46:12 -0500
Subject: advice
In-Reply-To: <200612291247.kBTClgR3005015@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com>
References: <200612291247.kBTClgR3005015@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1167399972.409.55.camel@seafire>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 13:47 +0100, Trevor Nye wrote:
> Can anyone point me to an article that explains the file structure of ext2
> ext3 please?

Probably this is a good start:
http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html

Bye,
Torsten





From dontodd at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 13:58:39 2006
From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:58:39 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612290133p24bcf31at652837af88277702@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612290133p24bcf31at652837af88277702@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612290558i4fd5e0c6r23c7f27e45611b7d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dotan,

On 12/29/06, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> On 28/12/06, Todd Slater  wrote:
> > > 5) If I continue using bogofilter in Kmail, it will only filter the
> > > mail on that machine. Or, is there a way to have bogofilter in the
> > > IMAP server itself? That way it will learn from when I tag ham/spam on
> > > both machines.
> >
> > Yes, you'd want bogofilter to run on the same machine as your IMAP
> > server so that no matter what machine you access your mail from, mail
> > gets passed through bogofilter. I've got a server set up like this,
> > and the process is that postfix receives the mail and hands it off to
> > procmail, which sends it through bogofilter and then delivers it to
> > the local mailboxes. All training can be done via the mail client, by
> > dragging and dropping messages to the appropriate folder.
> >
> > I set up bogofilter and folders like this:
> >
> > a .Junk folder, where mail identified as spam goes.
> >
> > a .MakeJunk folder, where misclassified ham goes (bogofilter thinks
> > it's ham but it's really spam)
> >
> > a .MakeGood folder, where misclassified spam goes (bogofilter thinks
> > it's spam but it's really ham)
> >
> > Since bogofilter uses tristate classification now, I have approached
> > the unsure messages in one of two ways, either
> >
> > 1. having bogofilter put ???UNSURE??? in the subject line so I'll know
> > it's unsure, or
> >
> > 2. creating an .Unsure folder where procmail can put those messages.
> >
> > I then run scripts via cron on the server that process mail in
> > .MakeJunk, .MakeGood, and .Unsure. These basically run every couple of
> > hours and run the mails through bogofilter with the appropriate
> > switches for training. I only keep one week worth of spam in my Junk
> > folder, anything older than 7 days gets moved out of my maildir and to
> > another folder outside of my mail root. I tar.gz that directory every
> > week or so to save space.
> >
> > Since the vast majority of my unsures are actually spam, I have a
> > script that automatically classifies those mails older than 7 days as
> > junk and move them to my spam archive.
> >
> > Let me know if you need details on my server setup, it's on Ubuntu, too.
> >
> > Todd
> >
>
> Todd, that looks like the perfect setup, and that's exactly what I'm
> going to do. Could you please tell me exactly what programs you are
> using, so that I can start googling. I see postfix, procmail,
> bogofilter, and cron. What IMAP server aer you using?

Yes, postfix, procmail, bogofilter, and dovecot for IMAP. I also use
RoundCube for web access. You would be using fetchmail too, as I
understand.

> ALso, please tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Postfix
> connects to a remote POP3 machine and pulls the mail down.

In my case, it's just a regular mail server so postfix is listening
for mail connections and receives mail for my domains. But yes, you'd
use fetchmail to pull mail from other servers. I have used fetchmail
in this system as well, and it just works as it passes mail to
postfix, thus starting the whole process.

It then
> passes the mail to procmail, which runs bogofilter and based on
> bogofilter's response, procmail puts the mail in the appropriate
> folder. The IMAP server then has access to it, and can serve email to
> your client (Tbird, Kmail, etc.).

Exactly.

Now, when you get a spam in ham, or
> vice versa, you put it in a special spam->ham or ham->spam folder so
> that bogofilter can learn from it. Every so often, cron comes along,
> parses those special folders, and send the email to bogofilter so he
> can learn. Is that what's happening?

Yes.

> Thank you very much for your assistance.

There's not much tricky about this setup, but I always run into
trouble with postfix/procmail. The only required change to the postfix
configuration as far as I can tell is to put this in
/etc/postfix/main.cf:

mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN

In my .procmailrc, I have my bogofilter rules:

:0fw
|bogofilter -u -e -p

:0e
{ EXITCODE=75 HOST }

:0
* ^X-Bogosity: Unsure, tests=bogofilter
.Unsure/

:0
* ^X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter
.Junk/

I happen to register every mail with the db, thus the -u switch. I
think that once you get your server set up, you won't want to use any
client-side filtering at all; it's so much easier to set it up one
time in your procmail rc files.

Let me know if you want to see the cron scripts.

Todd



From webguytx at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 14:01:31 2006
From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:01:31 -0600
Subject: USB Wireless Adapter
Message-ID: <45951FBB.6030500@gmail.com>

Guys,

I have a Belkin USB wireless adapter that works great on Winxp. How can 
I get it to work on Ubuntu?

Robert



From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 14:03:02 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:03:02 +0800
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com> 
Message-ID: <212696550612290603h4a9ff57dp9f29810be11bd53b@mail.gmail.com>

I have solved my problem with the following command
I boot from the live cd, then
>sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
>sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt
Then I restart my pc from the flash-disk and create the menu.lst file in
/boot/grub directory
Note that the *MENU.LST* file name is wrong. Only the menu.lst file name
works.
Thank you all very much for your warmly help and discussion. I'm very glad
to discuss the
ubuntu problems with you.


On 12/29/06, Scott  wrote:
>
> alex spake thusly on 12/28/2006 10:04 AM:
> >
> > THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANYTHING TO YOUR WINDOWS INSTALLATION IN hda1.
> > (I notice that you have the file system W95 FAT32 (LBA) in hda1 and you
> > mention that you have Windows XP installed-------?????)
>
> I'm not sure about the "W95" in that line, but just to clarify, you can
> run/install WinXP with either the NTFS or FAT32 filesystem.
>
>
> --
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> http://angrykeyboarder.com
> (c) 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved
>
>
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From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 14:04:28 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:04:28 +0800
Subject: How can I recove the Recycle Bin to the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06
In-Reply-To: <1167360791.6932.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167360791.6932.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <212696550612290604q4b1bfe12x7c7ac720fd366b18@mail.gmail.com>

I recover the trash icon successfully following your directions. Thank you
very much.
Also I thank  Jens Cedlind for the warming reply.
Good luck!

On 12/29/06, Tim Frost  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 08:42 +0800, zhihang wang wrote:
> >
> > I delete the Recycle Bin icon from the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06. How can
> > I recover it?
>
> Right-click the panel, and select 'Add to Panel...' from the menu that
> pops up.  That brings up a dialog box with a range of items that can be
> added to the panel.  In the section headed 'Desktop & Windows' there is
> a trash icon.  Select that, and click 'Add'.  The trash applet will
> appear on the panel that you right-clicked.
>
> You can add other items to the panel that way, then click the close
> button of the dialog box when you finish.
>
>
> Tim
>
>
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From Christian.Strobl at dlr.de  Fri Dec 29 14:30:08 2006
From: Christian.Strobl at dlr.de (Christian.Strobl at dlr.de)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:30:08 +0100
Subject: WG: Ubuntu crashes every few days
Message-ID: 


hi,
i think i have the same screensaver problem with dapper on a t43 notebook, but i don't want to disable all screensavers. at my system it crashes mainly with the lattice screensaver. 
in my opinion the deactivation of all screensavers is no solution, especially because the crash can not be reproduced and happens irregularly. for further testing i would like to disable only the lattice screensaver. is that possible and, if yes, how.
thanks for any help and greetings from munich christian


> 
> I have the same screensaver issue. I just disabled the screensaver 
> from coming on. - - - Although it is linux, it should just work :)
> 
> 
> On 12/8/06, Linda Hanigan  wrote: 
> 
> 	The Screensaver was locking up my system. After I removed all
> 	screensavers it has not locked up again. It is not a 
> big deal since the
> 	screen goes blank if not used for a while. You might 
> want to try it to
> 	see if it solves your problem. 
> 	                              Linda
> 	On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 22:23 -0200, Hervé Fache wrote:
> 	> On 12/6/06, Neil McLeod  wrote:
> 	> > Hello, 
> 	> >
> 	> > Every few days, my entire system (Ubuntu Dapper on 
> a Thinkpad T42) crashes.
> 	> > I can't even move the mouse or suspend the 
> computer. Pressing
> 	> > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete does nothing. 
> 	>
> 	> So both keyboard and mouse are dead? That's a big bug!
> 	>
> 	
> 	
> 	
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> 	Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
> 	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Shawn McCuan
> smccuan at gmail.com 
> 



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 14:34:47 2006
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:34:47 +0200
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612290558i4fd5e0c6r23c7f27e45611b7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612290133p24bcf31at652837af88277702@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612290558i4fd5e0c6r23c7f27e45611b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00612290634p73dfc72fi1629b4cd5e4954a8@mail.gmail.com>

On 29/12/06, Todd Slater  wrote:
> Yes, postfix, procmail, bogofilter, and dovecot for IMAP. I also use
> RoundCube for web access. You would be using fetchmail too, as I
> understand.

Er, for what? :) If it's for pulling the mail down from the POP3
server, then doesn't postfix do that?

> > ALso, please tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Postfix
> > connects to a remote POP3 machine and pulls the mail down.
>
> In my case, it's just a regular mail server so postfix is listening
> for mail connections and receives mail for my domains. But yes, you'd
> use fetchmail to pull mail from other servers. I have used fetchmail
> in this system as well, and it just works as it passes mail to
> postfix, thus starting the whole process.

Fetchmail give the mail to postfix? Because I thought that postfix
goes and gets mail, and does not listen for it.

> > It then
> > passes the mail to procmail, which runs bogofilter and based on
> > bogofilter's response, procmail puts the mail in the appropriate
> > folder. The IMAP server then has access to it, and can serve email to
> > your client (Tbird, Kmail, etc.).
>
> Exactly.

Yes! One down.

> > Now, when you get a spam in ham, or
> > vice versa, you put it in a special spam->ham or ham->spam folder so
> > that bogofilter can learn from it. Every so often, cron comes along,
> > parses those special folders, and send the email to bogofilter so he
> > can learn. Is that what's happening?
>
> Yes.

Two down!

> > Thank you very much for your assistance.
>
> There's not much tricky about this setup, but I always run into
> trouble with postfix/procmail.

Does this affect your ability to send/ receive email?

> The only required change to the postfix
> configuration as far as I can tell is to put this in
> /etc/postfix/main.cf:
>
> mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN

I'm going to google that.

> In my .procmailrc, I have my bogofilter rules:
>
> :0fw
> |bogofilter -u -e -p
>
> :0e
> { EXITCODE=75 HOST }
>
> :0
> * ^X-Bogosity: Unsure, tests=bogofilter
> .Unsure/
>
> :0
> * ^X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter
> .Junk/

And those I shall google as well.

> I happen to register every mail with the db, thus the -u switch. I
> think that once you get your server set up, you won't want to use any
> client-side filtering at all; it's so much easier to set it up one
> time in your procmail rc files.

I intend to only register false postives/nevatives with bogofilter, as
I believe that is all it pays attention to anyway.

> Let me know if you want to see the cron scripts.

I'd love to see them, thanks!

> Todd

Dotan

http://what-is-what.com/what_is/javascript.html
http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_hdtv.html



From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Fri Dec 29 14:46:10 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:46:10 +0100
Subject: xvidcap like: video screenshots
Message-ID: <1167403570.4739.4.camel@r4000>

Hi,
I would like to have a tool to capture video while recording from
microphone. To make some tutorial.

I saw xvidcap, but it is no longer in ubuntu.
what else is available?

I only want ubuntu packaged software, no way to make me do "./configure;
make; make install".

vnc2swf would be a good deal, but it produces flash video, not really
loved. I can always convert it using mencoder or something else, but if
there is some mpeg-outputting one...

Thank you.




From amichai at iglu.org.il  Fri Dec 29 15:00:14 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:00:14 +0200
Subject: AviPlay: Shows only half on full screen
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I am trying to run a live rtsp:// feed with RealPlay (
RELEASE-0.7.44-060703-03:56).

When I switch to full screen mode it shows the video only on the top half of
the screen and the bottom is blue...

What can be done?

The video seems to be  W32 Windows Media Video DMO codec

Audio is fine.

Thanks!

-- 

:====================================================:.

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UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]

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From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org  Fri Dec 29 14:53:38 2006
From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:53:38 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
Message-ID: <87d562sqh9.fsf@fjellstad.org>

"Jeffrey F. Bloss"  writes:

> I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
> either, but with a static IP and the ability to use your web hosting
> server as a backup MX it's certainly is a viable option. And it would
> truly make any issues that come up resolvable by virtue of you being
> "the man". ;)

There is little point in using a backup MX.  Proper MTA will try again
within a certain timeperiod (I think up to a week).
OTOH, spammers tend to send their email to the backup MX since the
backup MX usually don't have all the filtering in place.

-- 
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/          Quis custodiet ipsos custodes




From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org  Fri Dec 29 15:20:52 2006
From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:20:52 +0000
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
	<3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167405652.32171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 14:03 -0400, Irwin Allicock wrote:
...
> 
> The reason I do that is due to the fact that on the first connect
> attempt  the modem never initializes ... It only initializes on the
> second try.  Seems as though wvdial is a bit broken in Dapper and
> Edgy...works fine in Breezy with the GUI i.e without doing any configs
> with wvdial if i remember correctly.

I does also have this problem in Dapper on my Mother in Law's computer.
It can take several times to get it work, if at all. Is there a
workaround for the problem any where?

> Even in first configuring the modem with Edgy I have to "sudo
> wvdialconf" at least three time before it recognizes the modem...but I
> guess stranger things have happened...hehe.... 
> 
> Irwin


/Magnus
-- 
Magnus Runesson 
Linuxalert




From dontodd at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 15:24:47 2006
From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:24:47 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <880dece00612290634p73dfc72fi1629b4cd5e4954a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612280654n5825f13fhe1e96701a27b190a@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612290133p24bcf31at652837af88277702@mail.gmail.com>
	<9421dc6f0612290558i4fd5e0c6r23c7f27e45611b7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612290634p73dfc72fi1629b4cd5e4954a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612290724y5cd43659y22ae30b36ca5851e@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/06, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> On 29/12/06, Todd Slater  wrote:
> > Yes, postfix, procmail, bogofilter, and dovecot for IMAP. I also use
> > RoundCube for web access. You would be using fetchmail too, as I
> > understand.
>
> Er, for what? :) If it's for pulling the mail down from the POP3
> server, then doesn't postfix do that?

Not that I'm aware of; postfix will receive mail for domains, but it
won't go out and fetch it from other POP3 or IMAP servers.

It may be helpful for you to read up on this at
http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/. That site contains
lots of links to understanding the overall email process, from MDA's,
MTA's, MUA's, etc.

> > > ALso, please tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Postfix
> > > connects to a remote POP3 machine and pulls the mail down.
> >
> > In my case, it's just a regular mail server so postfix is listening
> > for mail connections and receives mail for my domains. But yes, you'd
> > use fetchmail to pull mail from other servers. I have used fetchmail
> > in this system as well, and it just works as it passes mail to
> > postfix, thus starting the whole process.
>
> Fetchmail give the mail to postfix? Because I thought that postfix
> goes and gets mail, and does not listen for it.
>
> > > It then
> > > passes the mail to procmail, which runs bogofilter and based on
> > > bogofilter's response, procmail puts the mail in the appropriate
> > > folder. The IMAP server then has access to it, and can serve email to
> > > your client (Tbird, Kmail, etc.).
> >
> > Exactly.
>
> Yes! One down.
>
> > > Now, when you get a spam in ham, or
> > > vice versa, you put it in a special spam->ham or ham->spam folder so
> > > that bogofilter can learn from it. Every so often, cron comes along,
> > > parses those special folders, and send the email to bogofilter so he
> > > can learn. Is that what's happening?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Two down!
>
> > > Thank you very much for your assistance.
> >
> > There's not much tricky about this setup, but I always run into
> > trouble with postfix/procmail.
>
> Does this affect your ability to send/ receive email?

Only initially, until I check my working configs and see that I've
forgotten that mailbox_command!

> > The only required change to the postfix
> > configuration as far as I can tell is to put this in
> > /etc/postfix/main.cf:
> >
> > mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN
>
> I'm going to google that.
>
> > In my .procmailrc, I have my bogofilter rules:
> >
> > :0fw
> > |bogofilter -u -e -p
> >
> > :0e
> > { EXITCODE=75 HOST }
> >
> > :0
> > * ^X-Bogosity: Unsure, tests=bogofilter
> > .Unsure/
> >
> > :0
> > * ^X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter
> > .Junk/
>
> And those I shall google as well.

I believe I pulled that directly from the bogofilter documentation,
either the man page or the site's FAQ.

> > I happen to register every mail with the db, thus the -u switch. I
> > think that once you get your server set up, you won't want to use any
> > client-side filtering at all; it's so much easier to set it up one
> > time in your procmail rc files.
>
> I intend to only register false postives/nevatives with bogofilter, as
> I believe that is all it pays attention to anyway.

Then you might do away with the -u switch, then. I believe the docs
suggest a minimum of 500 ham and 500 spam for initial training.

> > Let me know if you want to see the cron scripts.
>
> I'd love to see them, thanks!

I wrote it up at
http://webonaire.com/blog/archive/2006/12/multiuser-bogofilter-setup-with-dovecot-imap-postfix-procmail-and-cron/

Todd



From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 15:25:06 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:25:06 -0500
Subject: USB Wireless Adaptor
Message-ID: 

>
> Guys,
> >
> > I have a Belkin USB wireless adapter that works great on Winxp. How can
> > I get it to work on Ubuntu?
> >
> > Robert
>
>
 You might want to try installing the "restricted-modules" from the Synaptec
package manager, and rebooting your machine. I'm not saying this will work,
but it does install a lot of the stuff needed to get peripherals working
properly.
Just do a search in Synaptec using "restricted modules" in the search box,
and if you're using a pc, make sure when you download it's for the x86
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From frederific at googlemail.com  Fri Dec 29 15:28:12 2006
From: frederific at googlemail.com (Freddie Ruddick)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:28:12 +0000
Subject: xvidcap like: video screenshots
In-Reply-To: <1167403570.4739.4.camel@r4000>
References: <1167403570.4739.4.camel@r4000>
Message-ID: 

On 29/12/06, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
 wrote:

> I saw xvidcap, but it is no longer in ubuntu.
> what else is available?

xvidcap is still available from sourceforge.

To install it, go into a terminal and enter

wget http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xvidcap/xvidcap_1.1.4p1_i386.deb
sudo dpkg -i xvidcap_1.1.4p1_i386.deb


HTH
Freddie :)

-- 
Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.



From carsten at welcomes-you.com  Fri Dec 29 15:36:01 2006
From: carsten at welcomes-you.com (Carsten Aulbert)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:36:01 +0100
Subject: Command line printing
In-Reply-To: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7609c6380612271003w3043c429tbbd8cd13f4bba01b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <459535E1.8080101@welcomes-you.com>

Shu Hung (Koala) wrote:
> Hello all,

> Does anyone know how to use terminal command to print a:
> (1) Microsoft Document
> (2) Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file
> (3) graphics (e.g GIF, JPEG, TIFF)

I think the safest option is to convert the data first to postscript, e.g.

(1) Use wordview (package named wv), but this needs tetex(-extra) to be
installed
(2) pdf2ps should take care of this. However, CUPS (standard printer
daemon for *ubuntu) has a native filter for pdf files, thus printing it
directly *should* work
(3) I think CUPS handles that as well natively, but I don't know and
have next to nothing experience with this (except using convert from the
imagemagick packages for converting the picture into PS or EPS before
printing).

HTH
Carsten



From amichai at iglu.org.il  Fri Dec 29 15:39:31 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:39:31 +0200
Subject: Unable to access MiniSD Card
Message-ID: 

H,

When trying to format a MiniSD card, inserted to a card reader I get this:

sdc: Current: sense key: Medium Error
Dec 29 16:01:46 localhost kernel: [17245589.288000]     Additional sense:
Unrecovered read error
Dec 29 16:01:46 localhost kernel: [17245589.288000] end_request: I/O error,
dev sdc, sector 0
Dec 29 16:01:46 locahost kernel: [17245589.300000] sd 1:0:0:2: SCSI error:
return code = 0x8000002
Dec 29 16:01:46 localhost kernel: [17245589.300000] sdc: Current: sense key:
Medium Error
Dec 29 16:01:46 localhost kernel: [17245589.300000]     Additional sense:
Unrecovered read error
Dec 29 16:01:46 localhost kernel: [17245589.300000] end_request: I/O error,
dev sdc, sector 0

It belongs to a friend of mine whom used it for a while in a Nokia 6280
smartphone. She had a password set on it. after restoring the phone to
factory defaults, the card became useless - through the phone and any card
reader (under M$ too). When trying to format or change password in the
phone, it says the password is wrong, although it  is the right password for
sure (the date she got proposed by her boyfriend...)

Any thing I can do to help her?

Shame to waste it - it's a 2Gb card.

Is it possible to wipe the partition table to a fresh one?

She doesn't care for the data on it....

Thanks!

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From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com  Fri Dec 29 15:43:51 2006
From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:43:51 -0000
Subject: problem with the ubuntu installer
Message-ID: <001901c72b60$23efc780$0301a8c0@Michael>

I think there maybe a problem somewhere in the Ubuntu Installer for the Edgy 
Desktop CD.
Someone trying to install Linux for me said my Desktop had 256 K RAM but 
when they clicked on the desktop Icon to install, the machine seemed not to 
do much. I was asked about my computers host name, my user name and password 
for my main account and asked about disk partitioning but when we chose use 
free space, the drive churned around for hours but showed no progress bars 
and even when this person went home after visiting my flat, 12 AM came but 
still no repartitioning. I started the installation at 2 yesterday afternoon 
and it had still made no attempts to finish partitioning.
Is anyone aware of this as a possible bug because I am not only havving a 
problem installing Edgy, I can't even run the Orca screenreader when I press 
F5 3 at the boot prompt. 




From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 15:44:35 2006
From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:44:35 +0800
Subject: [Feisty] Power Information vs. Power Statistics?
Message-ID: 

In Feisty (Herd 1), there is an application called "Power Statistics" in the
System Tools category. I wonder how this is different with the Power
Manager's applet that display the Power Information, even on Edgy, the
latter seams more powerful tool than Power Statistics.

Regards,
Joel

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From amichai at iglu.org.il  Fri Dec 29 16:11:07 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:11:07 +0200
Subject: Changing the GRUB Boot Image?
Message-ID: 

Hi,

How do I change the GRUB boot image?

Thanks!

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From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 14:14:00 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:14:00 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>
	
	
Message-ID: <8ekf64-50k.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Scott wrote:

> Derek Broughton spake thusly on 12/28/2006 07:23 AM:
>> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> My solution? I switched to a provider that offers IMAP and let them do
>>>> the work. :-) There are a few out there that even do it for free.
>>>> ...
>>> Could you send a link to these free IMAP providers?
>>>
>> Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP.
>> Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're
>> providing
>> it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via
>> IMAP.
> 
> You've been able to do this with Gmail?
> 
I could have sworn I said "_except_ Gmail" :-)
-- 
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From torsten at ubuntu.com  Fri Dec 29 16:22:46 2006
From: torsten at ubuntu.com (Torsten Spindler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:22:46 -0500
Subject: Changing the GRUB Boot Image?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1167409366.523.5.camel@seafire>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 18:11 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
> How do I change the GRUB boot image?

You need to add the location of a bitmap image to your menu.lst:

splashimage=LOCATION

for example:

splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz 

splash.xpm should be a 640x480 xpm image.

Torsten





From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 16:27:47 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:27:47 -0500
Subject: problem with the ubuntu installer
Message-ID: 

>
> I think there maybe a problem somewhere in the Ubuntu Installer for the
> > Edgy
> > Desktop CD.
> > Someone trying to install Linux for me said my Desktop had 256 K RAM but
> > when they clicked on the desktop Icon to install, the machine seemed not
> > to
> > do much. I was asked about my computers host name, my user name and
> > password
> > for my main account and asked about disk partitioning but when we chose
> > use
> > free space, the drive churned around for hours but showed no progress
> > bars
> > and even when this person went home after visiting my flat, 12 AM came
> > but
> > still no repartitioning. I started the installation at 2 yesterday
> > afternoon
> > and it had still made no attempts to finish partitioning.
> > Is anyone aware of this as a possible bug because I am not only havving
> > a
> > problem installing Edgy, I can't even run the Orca screenreader when I
> > press
> > F5 3 at the boot prompt.
>
>
I'm not sure if it's a bug or not; your machine might be a bit on the slow
side (especially if you have 256 K rather than MB!) for the live
installation. Anyway, you might want to consider downloading the
"Alternative" install CD. This option is handy for older hardware because
rather than having a graphical installer using up all your RAM, it instead
goes right to a blue screen and installs Ubuntu quite a lot simpler.
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From amichai at iglu.org.il  Fri Dec 29 16:30:33 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:30:33 +0200
Subject: Changing the GRUB Boot Image?
In-Reply-To: <1167409366.523.5.camel@seafire>
References: 
	<1167409366.523.5.camel@seafire>
Message-ID: 

Thanks!

And how do I create it?
Should I run something after I put the image there?


On 12/29/06, Torsten Spindler  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 18:11 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
> > How do I change the GRUB boot image?
>
> You need to add the location of a bitmap image to your menu.lst:
>
> splashimage=LOCATION
>
> for example:
>
> splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> splash.xpm should be a 640x480 xpm image.
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
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From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Fri Dec 29 17:20:09 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:20:09 +0100
Subject: advice
In-Reply-To: <1167399972.409.55.camel@seafire>
Message-ID: <200612291720.kBTHKTh3017533@smtp-prs03.proxy.aol.com>

Exactly what I wanted thank you. I did look for such a thing but did not see
it.

Regards





From jdangler at atlantic.net  Fri Dec 29 17:49:32 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:49:32 -0500
Subject: Wireless - Dapper
Message-ID: <1167414573.5416.29.camel@localhost>

I have a Dell 8600 Inspiron w/IPW2100 wireless connected to eth1.
I have had no problems in connecting to wireless networks in other parts
of the country while traveling.  I recently added a Linksys 4400N
wireless router in my home office, and I have a win box that connects to
it using a WUSB54G adapter.  However, the Ubuntu laptop will not connect
to it.  iwconfig shows the ESSID and lsmod | grep ipw2100 shows the
drivers as loaded (both as ipw2100 and ieee80211).
I've tried going through the network manager (System->Admin->Networks),
and setting different locations with different setups, but it doesn't
seem to help.  Setting the wireless to either DHCP or Static IP doesn't
resolve it.

I think the problem is in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
Can I create a network/interfaces to load as a default, and an alternate
interfaces file to load when I want to use eth1 for wireless?

I installed airsnort to see if I could see the network, but airsnort
just gives me the following errors:
ymsmoke at Nebo:~$ sudo airsnort
/sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable > /dev/null
wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
/sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=3
keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
/sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=4
keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
/sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=5
keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported

Any input is appreciated.

tia






From jdangler at atlantic.net  Fri Dec 29 17:53:39 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:53:39 -0500
Subject: laptop power management!
In-Reply-To: <20061229183717.73df5054.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
	<20061229183717.73df5054.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1167414819.5416.34.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 18:37 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:45:02 -0200
> Ricardo C O Freitas  wrote:
> 
> > It just SUSPEND or SHUTDOWN when the battery is on CRITICAL!!! 
> > 
> > No WARNINGS!!!
> 
> There's probably another way, but I use the "gkrellm" monitor to give me
> battery warnings ( sudo aptitude install gkrellm ) . Gkrellm has a battery
> monitor built in, and in the configuration under "Battery" you can set
> commands under Setup --> Alerts. You can also set "low" limits and "low
> alarm" limits ( for instance 105, 5% ). 
> 
> The commands can be whatever you prefer - I made a little script and put
> it in /usr/local/bin , like this:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> # Battery alarm sound and warning popup
> 
> xmessage "Your battery is at less than 5 percent" &
> ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Error_1.ogg
> 
> exit 0
> 
> Of course, you can  use any sound or warning command you prefer. The only
> downside to this is that gkrellm must be running - but in my case I always
> have it running anyway, because it keeps me informed about what the
> machine is doing :) The default skin for gkrellm is kind of ugly, but
> there are *lots* of skins available from
> 
> http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
> 
> Peter
> 
I'm running Dapper 6.06 LTS...
It's odd that my power managment icon showed up in the status bar of my
laptop until my last reboot, and now it no longer shows at all.  But,
when it was there, it seemed to work ok, except that I had to mouse over
it to know (in text) how much power was left on the battery.  It didn't
seem to be that accurate, though.  At one point, mousing over would say
"you have 3 hours 45 minutes of power left"... and then, 5 minutes later
- "you have 2 hours 12 minutes of power left"... and then, 10 minutes
later - "You have 3 hours 58 minutes of power left"...




From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 18:19:26 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:19:26 -0400
Subject: why Can't I install the grub on ubuntu 6.06?
References: <212696550612260718g225e6ed5t795c9d50ff58d42f@mail.gmail.com>
	<45931C0F.8030603@ne.rr.com>
	<212696550612280234g4435c5bfm8e89c3824e175d8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4593F932.7040501@ne.rr.com> 
	<212696550612290603h4a9ff57dp9f29810be11bd53b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

zhihang wang wrote:

> I have solved my problem with the following command
> I boot from the live cd, then
>>sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
>>sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt
> Then I restart my pc from the flash-disk and create the menu.lst file in
> /boot/grub directory
> Note that the *MENU.LST* file name is wrong. Only the menu.lst file name
> works.
> Thank you all very much for your warmly help and discussion. I'm very glad
> to discuss the
> ubuntu problems with you.

Excellent!
-- 
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From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 18:28:37 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:28:37 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4593C729.3090807@sbcglobal.net>		
	<20061229175637.07a520ef.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	
Message-ID: 

Scott wrote:

> Peter Garrett spake thusly on 12/28/2006 11:56 PM:
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:16:51 -0700
>> Scott  wrote:
>> 
>>> Derek Broughton spake thusly on 12/28/2006 07:23 AM:

>>>> Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail, provides IMAP.
>>>> Most of them don't even know it (or at least don't admit they're
>>>> providing
>>>> it), but it's there.  Just try connecting to your regular mailbox via
>>>> IMAP.
>>> You've been able to do this with Gmail?
>> 
>>   Every mail provider I've used for years, _except_ Gmail 
>> 
> 
> Ooops. I misread.
> 
LOL.  I just assumed it was wishful thinking - I know _I_ continually wish
for it :-)
-- 
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From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 18:27:45 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:27:45 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A2BC742-4E84-4F87-B5B5-585FA6C6EA68@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612280433s72fe17e5pabf1e77edaabf181@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<880dece00612290123o2b5a69adrd1576aa6f13c9db0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a3g64-31n.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> Please, forgive the question. To what are you refering with MTA and
> MDA? This comment seems to imply that they are mutually exclusive. I'm
> now re-confused. Which programs are MTA's and which are MDA's? In my
> point of view, postfix transfers and delivers email.

Postfix, Exim, Qmail, etc are MTAs (mail transfer agents).  procmail and
maildrop are MDAs (mail delivery agents).  In Todd's scenario, with postfix
& procmail, bogofilter is done in the MDA.  I've used both postfix & exim
without an MDA (delivering directly into an IMAP INBOX) and then you would
need the spam software hooked directly into the MTA.
> 
>> > Yes, my problem exacty. I didn't even know to start googling postfix
>> > unti lI was it mentioned. And English terminology is so inconsistent-
>> > why can't everyone just speak Hebrew?!? :)
>>
>> LOL.  Isn't the technical jargon just English in Hebrew characters?
> 
> Depends on who's speaking. Some people use English or Russian words
> with Hebrew prononciation, but most people, like myself, use the real
> Hebrew words. It's very annoying to hear English words in the middle
> of a Hebrew sentance. :)

I dare say :-)
-- 
derek




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 18:32:52 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:32:52 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <87d562sqh9.fsf@fjellstad.org>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel> <87d562sqh9.fsf@fjellstad.org>
Message-ID: <20061229133252.61ba3173@chisel>

John L Fjellstad wrote:

> "Jeffrey F. Bloss"  writes:
> 
> > I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
> > either, but with a static IP and the ability to use your web hosting
> > server as a backup MX it's certainly is a viable option. And it
> > would truly make any issues that come up resolvable by virtue of
> > you being "the man". ;)
> 
> There is little point in using a backup MX.  Proper MTA will try again
> within a certain timeperiod (I think up to a week).
> OTOH, spammers tend to send their email to the backup MX since the
> backup MX usually don't have all the filtering in place.

The "point" of running backup mail delivery systems is obvious. "Because
it might be abused" is bad logic to use when deciding whether or not to
build redundancy into a thing. If your backup MX is broken, fix it or
get a new one. Simple as that.

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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 18:42:51 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:42:51 -0500
Subject: Intro and a few questions
In-Reply-To: <4594535E.3030201@fahrlander.net>
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
	<20061228173917.16a25b5e@chisel> <20061228180436.0c29845c@chisel>
	<4594535E.3030201@fahrlander.net>
Message-ID: <20061229134251.5c85d6ac@chisel>

Brian Fahrlander wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> > Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> > 
> > Addendum:
> > 
> > I just realized that I forgot to tell you if you use 'cron' or 'at'
> > the output of whatever command you invoke will be mailed to you.
> > This can get quite large for something like mplayer that updates
> > the screen like it does. To fix this add '>/dev/null 2>&1' to then
> > end of your commands. Like this...
> > 
> >    user at host$ at 4:30 AM
> >    > mplayer /path/to/some/music/file/my.mp3 >/dev/null 2>&1
> >    > 
> 
>     Just for grins: someone over in the community section contributed
> a great idea for mplayer.  See this:
> 
> ssh -Y ws02 "mplayer tv:// -tv
> driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0"


Mmmmm... that is nifty. I wish I had more time to dabble in the black
arts of SSH forwarding and tunneling. I've been lusting after a down
and dirty "on demand web cam" security system sort of thingy for a
while now but hadn't considered SSH. A permutation of the above looks
like a solution. :)

/sez me, wondering if I'll have to install X on my server now.... ;)

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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 18:25:50 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:25:50 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
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Message-ID: <20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>

Avi Schwartz wrote:

> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> 
> > Colin Brace wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> On 12/28/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
> >>> either
> >>>       
> >> Just curious: why not? Reliability?
> >>     
> > Even with a good quality UPS and an end user feed that's been solid
> > for over a year, I feel a little timid about using my "home owner"
> > setup full time. If the power goes out for more than about 15
> > minutes or a neighbor decides it's a good idea to run his lawn
> > mower into the switch box that sits in his front yard I'm sunk. And
> > I'd have nobody to comaplin to. ;) At least with a "real" server I
> > can zip over to the library and still do my thing.
> >   
> Actually you are not sunk unless you need your email urgently.  Since
> a legit mail server will retry delivery up to 5 days, the only thing
> you are going to miss is spam.  After all that is how greylisting
> works.

Greylisting usually delays mail for single digit numbers of minutes, not
hours or days.

A "legit" mail server will attempt to redeliver mail for as long as the
admin decides it should. There's multitudes of servers out there
running on a three day rule. And I've seen some quit trying in one. If
you're depending on admins to blindly accept the default setting of one
piece of software you *will* be sunk.

Even if every mail server on the planet tried to deliver for 5 days it
wouldn't help the poor slob who called his provider and was told it
would be a week before someone could come out and take care of his
problem. There's no guarantee residential service outages won't cause
lost mail even with a 5 day grace period. At least not at any service
provider I've ever dealt with. 

All that aside, there's a whole slew of other reasons you don't want to
run a "home server" as a primary mail transport. There's all manner and
form of craziness out there perpetrated in the name of "the war on
spam" for instance. There's a considerable number of servers which in
effect flatly refuse to accept any mail at all from any IP that it
decides isn't in a block that would house a "real" mail server. RBL's
are another such problem. If someone in your IP block gets infected
with some mass mailer worm they'll list the whole block. That's a real
common occurrence that most people don't see because they *don't* try
to run mail servers from their kitchen table.

A home mail server is a marvelous way to both filter and sort your mail
the way you want, and have normal access to your mail from across the
street or across the continent (not some nasty web mail crapola
interface), but as a primary method of transport it doesn't work on a
number of levels. You'll either relay through a "real" host or you'll
have problems sooner or later. And some of those problems will be
unresolvable. Trust me, that's experience speaking. ;)

-- 
     _?_      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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From norman at littletank.org  Fri Dec 29 19:13:48 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:13:48 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
Message-ID: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>

Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
entered.

Norman   




From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 19:28:43 2006
From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:28:43 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: 

On 12/29/06, norman  wrote:
> Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
> that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
> using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
> entered.

 sudo update-alternatives --config java

Hope that's what you're looking for.

-Eamonn



From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Fri Dec 29 19:32:34 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:32:34 +1100
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:13:48 +0000
norman  wrote:

> Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
> that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
> using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
> entered.

sudo update-alternatives --config java

Peter



From norman at littletank.org  Fri Dec 29 19:55:31 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:31 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	
Message-ID: <1167422131.4800.37.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 19:28 +0000, Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> On 12/29/06, norman  wrote:
> > Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
> > that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
> > using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
> > entered.
> 
>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
> 
> Hope that's what you're looking for.

That looks very much like it thanks. My next step is to make sure that I
have installed the Java 2RE correctly. I am not very good at this sort
of thing and the version I want does not appear to be covered in
Synaptic.

Norman




From miles.lane at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 19:58:29 2006
From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:58:29 -0800
Subject: Where can I get lshid for Feisty?
Message-ID: 

I am having a problem with HID on my installation and need lshid to debug it.



From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com  Fri Dec 29 20:27:10 2006
From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:10 -0000
Subject: apology
Message-ID: <001501c72b87$b8667450$0301a8c0@Michael>

Sorry about the memory requirements when I mentioned the amount of RAM.
I think I should have said I have 256 MB not 256 KB which in theory 
shouldn't be the problem for installing from the Live CD as I have noticed 
others who might have mentioned similar system requirements unless there is 
a problem with the speed of my processor which I think is a pentium either a 
1 GHZ or maybe even 2 GHZ.
Possibly the chap helping me will be using the Alternative installation CD 
anyway as he is hoping to come back to my flat to try and sort me out 
tomorrow afternoon.
He thinks he might have a bit more memory for me and perhaps an extra drive 
so I can have Linux run from a second drive rather than try and add Edgy to 
my existing drive.
I know someone else in the Linux group got Edgy running using the 
Alternative CD and had no problem making it a Ubuntu only system but as yet 
the Alternative CD doesn't install with speech so it is good that someone 
with this chap's knowledge of Linux is installing it for me what with the 
Text based installation being visual only. 




From Gilles at Gravier.org  Fri Dec 29 20:40:48 2006
From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:40:48 +0100
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <45957D50.4080005@Gravier.org>

Hi!

sudo update-java-alternatives -l

To list all the installed Java runtimes... then...

sudo update-java-alternatives -s TheNameOfTheJavaVMYouWantToUse

(for example sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun)

Gilles.


norman wrote:
> Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
> that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
> using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
> entered.
>
> Norman   
>
>
>   

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From ubuntu at enelserver.com  Fri Dec 29 20:50:04 2006
From: ubuntu at enelserver.com (ubuntu at enelserver.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:50:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Java5 updates
Message-ID: <3938.189.155.103.204.1167425404.squirrel@enelserver.com>

hello:

Ubuntu edgy has  sun-java5   1.5.0-08
Sun has released Java 1.5.0_10  and  1.6

Will there be a java update for Ubuntu edgy ?

thanks

leonel





From jdangler at atlantic.net  Fri Dec 29 20:49:18 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:49:18 -0500
Subject: Wireless - Dapper
Message-ID: <1167425359.5416.42.camel@localhost>

I have a Dell 8600 Inspiron w/IPW2100 wireless connected to eth1.
        I have had no problems in connecting to wireless networks in
        other parts
        of the country while traveling.  I recently added a Linksys
        4400N
        wireless router in my home office, and I have a win box that
        connects to
        it using a WUSB54G adapter.  However, the Ubuntu laptop will not
        connect
        to it.  iwconfig shows the ESSID and lsmod | grep ipw2100 shows
        the
        drivers as loaded (both as ipw2100 and ieee80211).
        I've tried going through the network manager
        (System->Admin->Networks),
        and setting different locations with different setups, but it
        doesn't
        seem to help.  Setting the wireless to either DHCP or Static IP
        doesn't
        resolve it.
        
        I think the problem is in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
        Can I create a network/interfaces to load as a default, and an
        alternate
        interfaces file to load when I want to use eth1 for wireless?
        
        I installed airsnort to see if I could see the network, but
        airsnort
        just gives me the following errors:
        ymsmoke at Nebo:~$ sudo airsnort
        /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable > /dev/null
        wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
        /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=3
        keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
        wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
        /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=4
        keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
        wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
        /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=5
        keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
        wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported
        
        Any input is appreciated.
        
        tia




From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Fri Dec 29 20:52:15 2006
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:52:15 -0500
Subject: bridge eth1 to eth0?
Message-ID: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>

hi,

for stupid reasons I need to install via netboot on a compaq tablet
(hoping this will work, it's my last shot!).  I have an ubuntu desktop
with two ethernet cards, eth0 & eth1, and have set up dhcp & tftp on
eth1 as documented in various places on the web, e.g. here:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478


this works fine to a point.  I have the ubuntu edgy netboot images
in /var/lib/tftpboot, my tablet starts up with pxe, finding the images,
and is ready to install but cannot find the broader internet -- it
doesn't seem to see past the eth1 subnet.  So, probably a simple
question:  how  do I enable the eth1 traffic to bridge across to eth0
and thus access the whole internet?  I guess it has something to do with
ip forwarding or ip masquarading or one of those very scary and arcane
pieces of dark magic.  

I don't want to makethis pre-new year's post too long and am not sure
which pieces of info arethe most relevant but here's
the /etc/network/interfaces on the desktop:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.2.210
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.2.1

auto eth1 
#iface eth1 inet dhcp
# The second network card with static ip
iface eth1 inet static
      address 192.168.0.1
      netmask 255.255.255.0
      network 192.168.0.0

--------------
I should maybe say that eth0 attaches to a cheap wireless router --
simple but not very flexible.  The router is then in turn attached
through a cable modem to the local cable network.

thanks and please let me know what other info I should provide.  
Matt


-- 
Matt Price
History Dept
University of Toronto
matt.price at utoronto.ca
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From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Fri Dec 29 21:07:20 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:07:20 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
Message-ID: <45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>

Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> Avi Schwartz wrote:
>
>   
>> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Colin Brace wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On 12/28/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I wouldn't want my home mail server to be my primary mail server
>>>>> either
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Just curious: why not? Reliability?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Even with a good quality UPS and an end user feed that's been solid
>>> for over a year, I feel a little timid about using my "home owner"
>>> setup full time. If the power goes out for more than about 15
>>> minutes or a neighbor decides it's a good idea to run his lawn
>>> mower into the switch box that sits in his front yard I'm sunk. And
>>> I'd have nobody to comaplin to. ;) At least with a "real" server I
>>> can zip over to the library and still do my thing.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Actually you are not sunk unless you need your email urgently.  Since
>> a legit mail server will retry delivery up to 5 days, the only thing
>> you are going to miss is spam.  After all that is how greylisting
>> works.
>>     
>
> Greylisting usually delays mail for single digit numbers of minutes, not
> hours or days.
>
> A "legit" mail server will attempt to redeliver mail for as long as the
> admin decides it should. There's multitudes of servers out there
> running on a three day rule. And I've seen some quit trying in one. If
> you're depending on admins to blindly accept the default setting of one
> piece of software you *will* be sunk.
>   

In more then 5 years of running my own server never had any such 
problem, even when my server was down for 2 days while I was rebuilding it.
> Even if every mail server on the planet tried to deliver for 5 days it
> wouldn't help the poor slob who called his provider and was told it
> would be a week before someone could come out and take care of his
> problem. There's no guarantee residential service outages won't cause
> lost mail even with a 5 day grace period. At least not at any service
> provider I've ever dealt with. 

If something like would have happened, I would have purchased a backup
MX from dyndns or similar which would keep my mail much longer then 5 
days. But then I would turn it off when I am back online since outfits 
like dyndns don't use the same spam blocking methods that I do.

> All that aside, there's a whole slew of other reasons you don't want to
> run a "home server" as a primary mail transport. There's all manner and
> form of craziness out there perpetrated in the name of "the war on
> spam" for instance. There's a considerable number of servers which in
> effect flatly refuse to accept any mail at all from any IP that it
> decides isn't in a block that would house a "real" mail server. RBL's
> are another such problem. If someone in your IP block gets infected
> with some mass mailer worm they'll list the whole block. That's a real
> common occurrence that most people don't see because they *don't* try
> to run mail servers from their kitchen table.
>   
That is why I setup postfix to relay via my ISP's mail server.  If they
decide to block Comcast's mail servers there isn't much I can do anyway.
> A home mail server is a marvelous way to both filter and sort your mail
> the way you want, and have normal access to your mail from across the
>   
Also, we keep too much mail for an ISP quota.

> street or across the continent (not some nasty web mail crapola
> interface), but as a primary method of transport it doesn't work on a
> number of levels. You'll either relay through a "real" host or you'll
> have problems sooner or later. And some of those problems will be
> unresolvable. Trust me, that's experience speaking. ;)
>   
As I said, I am running my own server for more then 5 years.  That's
also experience speaking. :-)

Take care now and have a lovely new year!

Avi




From torsten at ubuntu.com  Fri Dec 29 21:11:26 2006
From: torsten at ubuntu.com (Torsten Spindler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:11:26 -0500
Subject: bridge eth1 to eth0?
In-Reply-To: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>
References: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167426686.6650.3.camel@seafire>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 15:52 -0500, Matt Price wrote:
> question:  how  do I enable the eth1 traffic to bridge across to eth0
> and thus access the whole internet?


You need to enable ip forwarding in your kernel, to check if it is
enabled try:

$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
1

or
$ sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward
1

If the result is '0', you can enable it with

$ sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=0
or
$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

To make this persistent over reboots, use /etc/sysctl.conf.

Torsten





From jdangler at atlantic.net  Fri Dec 29 21:12:27 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:12:27 -0500
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
Message-ID: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>

For the past 2 hours I've been trying to send messages and replies to
the group and am getting this back on every message - 

      To: "Ubuntu User List" 
      Subject: Wireless - Dapper
      Sent:     Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006


did not reach the following recipient(s):
peter at gizmoman.net on Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006

      The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message
 was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient
 directly to find out the correct address.
      

This happens whether I am replying to a post, or starting a new post.

Is anyone else seeing this???




From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com  Fri Dec 29 21:17:25 2006
From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:17:25 -0000
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <003101c72b8e$bd7636e0$0301a8c0@Michael>

Yes I am also seeing this same message when I have put questions on the list 
so you are not the only one.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Dangler" 
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions" 

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?


> For the past 2 hours I've been trying to send messages and replies to
> the group and am getting this back on every message -
>
>      To: "Ubuntu User List" 
>      Subject: Wireless - Dapper
>      Sent:     Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
>
>
> did not reach the following recipient(s):
> peter at gizmoman.net on Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
>
>      The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message
> was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient
> directly to find out the correct address.
>      
>
> This happens whether I am replying to a post, or starting a new post.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this???
>
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-users mailing list
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users 




From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Fri Dec 29 21:25:55 2006
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:25:55 +0100
Subject: keyboard issue
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

I have just changed my keyboard layout from 'us' to 'italian'.
through the kde control panel. Yet accented characters are only displayed
in vim session; xterm and konsole session do not accept those chaarcters,
nothing is printed out. 
Lyx session prints empty squares.  
What is  wrong?

Also tried xkeycaps, no luck.
I am puzzled about which configuration files are actually used by ubuntu 


Thank you for your help 
--
Pol




From cb at lim.nl  Fri Dec 29 21:35:25 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:35:25 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
Message-ID: 

On 12/29/06, Avi Schwartz  wrote:

> As I said, I am running my own server for more then 5 years.  That's
> also experience speaking. :-)

In my part of the world, all lines are underground, so I don't have to
worry about falling trees and neighbors with lawnmowers. :) I think my
main concern would be something like the router hanging while I was on
an extended trip somewhere. During those five years, what was the
longest period you left it unattended? Or, to frame the question
another way, have you ever had your mail server go offline and why?

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Dec 29 21:57:18 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:57:18 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>

Avi Schwartz wrote:

[...]

> > All that aside, there's a whole slew of other reasons you don't
> > want to run a "home server" as a primary mail transport. There's
> > all manner and form of craziness out there perpetrated in the name
> > of "the war on spam" for instance. There's a considerable number of
> > servers which in effect flatly refuse to accept any mail at all
> > from any IP that it decides isn't in a block that would house a
> > "real" mail server. RBL's are another such problem. If someone in

[...]

> That is why I setup postfix to relay via my ISP's mail server.  If

Then you're not using your home server as your primary mail transport.
It's nothing more than a staging area between your mail client and
something else. Convenient, and useful in many ways, but you just
confirmed my assertion that you can't cut your ISP or some other "real"
server out of the equation and still expect to maintain any sort of
reliability.

Thank you for your support. ;)

-- 
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    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Fri Dec 29 22:03:39 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:03:39 +1100
Subject: bridge eth1 to eth0?
In-Reply-To: <1167426686.6650.3.camel@seafire>
References: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>
	<1167426686.6650.3.camel@seafire>
Message-ID: <20061230090339.a6f07971.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:11:26 -0500
Torsten Spindler  wrote:

> sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

This won't work with sudo - you have two alternatives

sudo -i    ( to become root)  then
# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

or 

echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

Peter



From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 21:38:23 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:38:23 -0400
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: 

John Dangler wrote:

> For the past 2 hours I've been trying to send messages and replies to
> the group and am getting this back on every message -
> 
... 
> did not reach the following recipient(s):
> peter at gizmoman.net on Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
> 
... 
> This happens whether I am replying to a post, or starting a new post.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this???

Yes.  It happens every time somebody manages to subscribe to a list (pretty
well any list) with an email address that becomes invalid (after all, they
usually need a valid address at the time of subscription).  Generally, the
list software or admins will pick it up eventually...
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Fri Dec 29 21:47:17 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:47:17 -0400
Subject: Home IMAP server
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <50fg64-a7o.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Avi Schwartz wrote:

> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
>>
>> A "legit" mail server will attempt to redeliver mail for as long as the
>> admin decides it should. There's multitudes of servers out there
>> running on a three day rule. And I've seen some quit trying in one. If
>> you're depending on admins to blindly accept the default setting of one
>> piece of software you *will* be sunk.
>>   
> 
> In more then 5 years of running my own server never had any such
> problem, even when my server was down for 2 days while I was rebuilding
> it.

You don't really know though - if someone got an "undeliverable" message, 9
times out of 10 they'll have checked the address, assumed they did
something wrong, and resent it, and you won't ever hear that there was a
problem.

>> Even if every mail server on the planet tried to deliver for 5 days it

Which I agree they don't...

>> wouldn't help the poor slob who called his provider and was told it
>> would be a week before someone could come out and take care of his
>> problem. There's no guarantee residential service outages won't cause
>> lost mail even with a 5 day grace period. At least not at any service
>> provider I've ever dealt with.

Where I live, residential phone/cable service has been out twice for more
than 5 days in the last five years on our whole road (some hundreds of
customers) - and that's just because of major line damage.  If it only
affected a few homes, we wouldn't know. The local cable provider is
renowned for long outages...
-- 
derek




From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 22:20:18 2006
From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:20:18 +0100
Subject: bridge eth1 to eth0?
In-Reply-To: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>
References: <1167425535.5513.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <6f6293f10612291420q22e92b1dsfc6babb7a678c4e0@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/06, Matt Price  wrote:
> hi,
>
> for stupid reasons I need to install via netboot on a compaq tablet
> (hoping this will work, it's my last shot!).  I have an ubuntu desktop
> with two ethernet cards, eth0 & eth1, and have set up dhcp & tftp on
> eth1 as documented in various places on the web, e.g. here:
>
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478
>
>
> this works fine to a point.  I have the ubuntu edgy netboot images
> in /var/lib/tftpboot, my tablet starts up with pxe, finding the images,
> and is ready to install but cannot find the broader internet -- it
> doesn't seem to see past the eth1 subnet.  So, probably a simple
> question:  how  do I enable the eth1 traffic to bridge across to eth0
> and thus access the whole internet?  I guess it has something to do with
> ip forwarding or ip masquarading or one of those very scary and arcane
> pieces of dark magic.

I think you're talking about routing and not bridging. Bridging works
at layer 2 by connecting together two network segments (like a switch
or hub does). Routing works at layer 3 and thus, different layer 3
networks have different broadcast domains at layer 2.

If you want to enable routing:

# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

If you want to enable bridging, you need to create a bridging
interface (br0, for example) and add the network interfaces you want
to it. To bridge together eth0 and eth1:

# brctl addbr br0
# brctl addif br0 eth0
# brctl addif br0 eth1



From mareich49 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 29 22:24:30 2006
From: mareich49 at yahoo.com (Michael Reich)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:24:30 -0600
Subject: Network Color Printing Problem
In-Reply-To: <459446C3.30503@yahoo.com>
References: <459446C3.30503@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4595959E.4010103@yahoo.com>

Well, since no one has jumped in with a neat solution, I figured I'd 
post the work-around for this problem. 

After spending a LONG time on "live chat" with HP.com, the solution was 
to use a different printer driver on the client XP computer.  Since 
printing appears to be working correctly on the linux host for this 
printer, I installed a new printer on the XP client pointing at the URL 
for the printer (http://boris-ubuntu:631/printers/Officejet-6110).  Then 
when XP wanted me to pick a driver from its list of printers, I used a 
driver for the HP990c printer (previously downloaded from HP.com).  
Color printing seems to work now from the client.  However, formatting 
for previously created documents tend to be messed up.... 

This problem appears to be due to the HP6110 being an all-in-one 
printer/fax/scan/copy machine.  It is not a "networked" model, so the 
driver doesn't work well with mixed operating systems.  I pointed out to 
the HP rep that Win2000 and WinXP are different OS, and the printer 
worked fine when networked with those OSes.  I was also told that HP's 
online chat tech support is dedicated to Windows only, not linux 
support.....

Maybe this will be helpful to someone else.
 
On 12/28/2006 Michael Reich wrote:
> I have Dapper running on a computer with both a Dymo Labelwriter printer 
> and an HP Officejet 6110 (all in one) printer attached.  I can print 
> from the linux box to these printers.  I have a home network with WinXP 
> (SP2) computers as well as the linux box.  The three machines can all 
> see each other and I am able to share folders among them. 
>
> The issue I'm having is the HP printer.  While I can print to it from my 
> XP laptop, I cannot print to it in color.  Everything, including the XP 
> test page, is in black and white.  From Dapper, color prints fine (test 
> page is all I've tried).  I can't figure out what has happened, but the 
> XP test page (and the printer properties) indicate that there is no 
> color support.  Other details include
>
> printer name:    \\http://BORIS-UBUNTU:631\OfficeJet6110
> printer model:  HP OfficeJet
> Color support: No
> Port name:  http://boris-ubuntu:631/printers/Officejet-6110
> data format:  RAW
> driver name: UNIDRV.DLL
> data file:   HPOFFJET.GPD
> config file:  UNIDRVUI.DLL
> Help file:    UNIDRV.HLP
> Driver version:  5.00
> Environment:  Windows NT x86
>
> Can someone please tell me how to remedy this?  I want the ability to 
> print in color from the XP machines.
> Thanks!
>
>
> -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify 
> settings or unsubscribe at: 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users




From michael at weblore.com  Fri Dec 29 22:39:12 2006
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:39:12 -0600
Subject: Quick question(s) re dosfsck
Message-ID: <45959910.7030603@weblore.com>

When I boot, dosfsck is reporting that the two copies of the boot sector
don't match. Does anyone know a relatively easy way to fix this?

Also, which script is being executed that is calling dosfsck during
boot? After it reports the above problem, the bootup script grinds for
about 4-5 minutes before continuing. I'm guessing that it's scanning the
vfat partition. I'd like to modify the script to only do that  disk scan
about every 10th time I boot. When it does the scan, it's taking me
about 5 minutes to complete a boot - which is silly.

Thanks in advance.
---Michael





From thejoker at iinet.net.au  Fri Dec 29 23:47:30 2006
From: thejoker at iinet.net.au (The Joker)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:47:30 +0800
Subject: problem with the ubuntu installer
In-Reply-To: <001901c72b60$23efc780$0301a8c0@Michael>
References: <001901c72b60$23efc780$0301a8c0@Michael>
Message-ID: <4595A912.30403@iinet.net.au>

I had the same problem when I tried to install Edgy. I have since found 
out that it seems to be a problem with the partitioning tool the Edgy 
installer uses.

When the partition tool starts, it checks your drives. If you have a 
FAT32 partition, you may find that it simply hangs.

I was able to fix this by opening a terminal before starting the 
installer. When the installer hangs, enter the following commands in the 
terminal:

px ax | grep dosfsck

This will return the process that is scanning your drive. The output 
will look something like this:

  6013 ?        Sl    18:12 dosfsck -a -v /dev/hda5

The first number is the process ID. To continue installing Edgy, simply 
kill that process:

sudo kill 6013

(Change the 6013 to whatever the process ID is, of course).

If that doesn't work, you can try forcing it to kill by adding the -9 
switch:

sudo kill -9 6013

Once this process has been killed, you should be able to continue 
installing Edgy.

Hope this helps!

MICHAEL WEAVER wrote:
> I think there maybe a problem somewhere in the Ubuntu Installer for the Edgy 
> Desktop CD.
> Someone trying to install Linux for me said my Desktop had 256 K RAM but 
> when they clicked on the desktop Icon to install, the machine seemed not to 
> do much. I was asked about my computers host name, my user name and password 
> for my main account and asked about disk partitioning but when we chose use 
> free space, the drive churned around for hours but showed no progress bars 
> and even when this person went home after visiting my flat, 12 AM came but 
> still no repartitioning. I started the installation at 2 yesterday afternoon 
> and it had still made no attempts to finish partitioning.
> Is anyone aware of this as a possible bug because I am not only havving a 
> problem installing Edgy, I can't even run the Orca screenreader when I press 
> F5 3 at the boot prompt. 
> 
> 

-- 
The Joker: thejoker at iinet.net.au

Random Quote:
Writing is easy; all you do is sit staring at the blank sheet of paper 
until drops of blood form on your forehead. -- Gene Fowler



From gerard.bigot at gmail.com  Fri Dec 29 22:54:03 2006
From: gerard.bigot at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_BIGOT?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:54:03 +0100
Subject: Where can I get lshid for Feisty?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <46db19270612291454o67f65925v432a0e256ac0bdaa@mail.gmail.com>

google is your friend. Try 'lshid debian'. 'lshid ubuntu' has zero result...

With a fast reading, it seems the package has trouble to be compiled by
debian.

You can compile it yourself from
http://svn.ailab.ch/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/libhid/trunk/test/?rev=192

G.

On 12/29/06, Miles Lane  wrote:
>
> I am having a problem with HID on my installation and need lshid to debug
> it.
>
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From fmccormick at videotron.ca  Fri Dec 29 17:54:18 2006
From: fmccormick at videotron.ca (Frank McCormick)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:54:18 -0500
Subject: Umax Scanner
Message-ID: <20061229125418.0aee8201.fmccormick@videotron.ca>

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	I have been trying to get a Umax Astra 2000p scanner to work with my
Dapper installation. There is a backend for it - I have followed the vague
instructions in the man, and the system tells me now xsane was not compiled
with the parallel port redirection option, which means it's useless with any
parallel port scanner. Is there anyway around this besides downloading sources
for sane satisfying all the dependencies then recompiling ??





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Cheers

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From ben at cvrse.com  Fri Dec 29 22:56:09 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:56:09 +1100
Subject: my own repository
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1A3116F6-201A-4B7A-A1C1-C8037603643A@openforce.com>
	 <20061228214807.GA5242@rip.cvrse.com>
	
Message-ID: <20061229225609.GA5236@rip.cvrse.com>

* Scott wrote:
> ben darby spake thusly on 12/28/2006 02:48 PM:
> > and as for the repository try falcon, its easy to set up and works a treat
> > along with pinning.
> > 
> > http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/edgy-seveas/all/
> 
> Yep. It's one of the ones I use.  But in his case he was wanting to 
> utilize is own in addition to the standard Ubuntu ones.

yeh i wasnt refering to the repo for him to add, but the falcon package
contained it in which will allow him to setup his own repo easily which
will contain his own custom packages. 

-- 
ben darby
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From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Fri Dec 29 23:10:44 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:10:44 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>
Message-ID: <4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>

Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:

> Avi Schwartz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>   
>>> All that aside, there's a whole slew of other reasons you don't
>>> want to run a "home server" as a primary mail transport. There's
>>> all manner and form of craziness out there perpetrated in the name
>>> of "the war on spam" for instance. There's a considerable number of
>>> servers which in effect flatly refuse to accept any mail at all
>>> from any IP that it decides isn't in a block that would house a
>>> "real" mail server. RBL's are another such problem. If someone in
>>>       
>
> [...]
>
>   
>> That is why I setup postfix to relay via my ISP's mail server.  If
>>     
>
> Then you're not using your home server as your primary mail transport.
> It's nothing more than a staging area between your mail client and
> something else. Convenient, and useful in many ways, but you just
> confirmed my assertion that you can't cut your ISP or some other "real"
> server out of the equation and still expect to maintain any sort of
> reliability.
>
>   
It all depends on the ISP when I was using Speakeasy, I had a static IP 
and I had no problem of being blocked so I was my primary transport.  
Unfortunately, at least in my area, Comcast does not offer static IPs so 
I had to change to relaying through my ISP.  I still receive all my mail 
directly though, and that is more important to me then sending out email 
(I receive a ton more then I send).

Avi



From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Fri Dec 29 23:14:17 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:14:17 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <50fg64-a7o.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<50fg64-a7o.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <4595A149.5030205@cfftechnologies.com>

Derek Broughton wrote:

> Avi Schwartz wrote:
>
>   
>> Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
>>     
>>> A "legit" mail server will attempt to redeliver mail for as long as the
>>> admin decides it should. There's multitudes of servers out there
>>> running on a three day rule. And I've seen some quit trying in one. If
>>> you're depending on admins to blindly accept the default setting of one
>>> piece of software you *will* be sunk.
>>>   
>>>       
>> In more then 5 years of running my own server never had any such
>> problem, even when my server was down for 2 days while I was rebuilding
>> it.
>>     
>
> You don't really know though - if someone got an "undeliverable" message, 9
> times out of 10 they'll have checked the address, assumed they did
> something wrong, and resent it, and you won't ever hear that there was a
> problem.
>   

Believe me, I'd know.
>>> Even if every mail server on the planet tried to deliver for 5 days it
>>>       
>
> Which I agree they don't...
>
>   
>>> wouldn't help the poor slob who called his provider and was told it
>>> would be a week before someone could come out and take care of his
>>> problem. There's no guarantee residential service outages won't cause
>>> lost mail even with a 5 day grace period. At least not at any service
>>> provider I've ever dealt with.
>>>       
>
> Where I live, residential phone/cable service has been out twice for more
> than 5 days in the last five years on our whole road (some hundreds of
> customers) - and that's just because of major line damage.  If it only
> affected a few homes, we wouldn't know. The local cable provider is
> renowned for long outages..
>   
That's why I suggested that people that may have a downed connection for 
a long period of time to get a (cheap) secondary MX but to make sure to 
turn it on only when they need it or a ton of spam will come through it.


Avi



From thejoker at iinet.net.au  Sat Dec 30 00:15:44 2006
From: thejoker at iinet.net.au (The Joker)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:15:44 +0800
Subject: Quick question(s) re dosfsck
In-Reply-To: <45959910.7030603@weblore.com>
References: <45959910.7030603@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <4595AFB0.3030904@iinet.net.au>

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can comment on this one if I get it 
wrong, but I think you can change the options in the /etc/fstab file to 
skip checking VFAT partitions.

I believe it's the last option in the line in question.

A relevant line from my /etc/fstab file is:

UUID=42D2-898B  /media/data     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 
       0

(Line may wrap)

Change the last number (probably 1) in the line referencing your drive 
to a 0 and everything should be hunky-dory.

I had the same issue with a large file on my VFAT partition - am ISO 
file got truncated to 0 bytes because of this.

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> When I boot, dosfsck is reporting that the two copies of the boot sector
> don't match. Does anyone know a relatively easy way to fix this?
> 
> Also, which script is being executed that is calling dosfsck during
> boot? After it reports the above problem, the bootup script grinds for
> about 4-5 minutes before continuing. I'm guessing that it's scanning the
> vfat partition. I'd like to modify the script to only do that  disk scan
> about every 10th time I boot. When it does the scan, it's taking me
> about 5 minutes to complete a boot - which is silly.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> ---Michael
> 
> 
> 

-- 
The Joker: thejoker at iinet.net.au

Random Quote:
Writing is easy; all you do is sit staring at the blank sheet of paper 
until drops of blood form on your forehead. -- Gene Fowler

Uptime: 3 min,



From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Fri Dec 29 23:25:37 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:25:37 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	
Message-ID: <4595A3F1.6010100@cfftechnologies.com>

Colin Brace wrote:

> On 12/29/06, Avi Schwartz  wrote:
>
>   
>> As I said, I am running my own server for more then 5 years.  That's
>> also experience speaking. :-)
>>     
>
> In my part of the world, all lines are underground, so I don't have to
> worry about falling trees and neighbors with lawnmowers. :) I think my
> main concern would be something like the router hanging while I was on
> an extended trip somewhere. During those five years, what was the
> longest period you left it unattended? Or, to frame the question
> another way, have you ever had your mail server go offline and why?
>   
In my area they are underground as well :-)

The mail server was down once for two days when I lost my hard drive and 
I had to get a replacement drive and rebuild the server. I have good 
backups though so I was fine.

Occasionally (pretty rare) I would lose my connection for couple of 
hours due to ISP problems but then I had the connection go down on my 
work's T1 from time to time as well, so it is not unique to my ISP.

You can purchase a backup MX (about $30 a year) and turn it on only when 
you leave on an extended vacation so that even if your 
machine/connection/router is down you will be safe.

Avi



From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Fri Dec 29 23:29:36 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:29:36 +0100
Subject: xvidcap like: video screenshots
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1167403570.4739.4.camel@r4000>
	
Message-ID: <1167434976.4740.7.camel@r4000>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 15:28 +0000, Freddie Ruddick wrote:
> http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xvidcap/xvidcap_1.1.4p1_i386.deb

Would you know where couls I find the _source_ package of this? I mean
the .dsc and *.diff at least. The *.orig is easy to find.




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 00:03:25 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:03:25 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061225184046.540cad61@chisel>
	<880dece00612261347x6ba31a9fx18c6ca7523d8aa88@mail.gmail.com>
	<24D76767-BCCA-414A-B102-F3B413E7A51B@openforce.com>
	<880dece00612270915w3ee87a97ge4adafe131bbc441@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
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Avi Schwartz wrote:

> > Then you're not using your home server as your primary mail
> > transport. It's nothing more than a staging area between your mail
> > client and something else. Convenient, and useful in many ways, but
> > you just confirmed my assertion that you can't cut your ISP or some
> > other "real" server out of the equation and still expect to
> > maintain any sort of reliability.
> >
> >   
> It all depends on the ISP when I was using Speakeasy, I had a static

It doesn't just depend on the ISP, it depends on every mail server you
have any contact with at all. Even the "big boys" have occasional
problems getting mail through. The nice thing for them is they have the
leverage to get things fixed in a timely manner. That's yet another
reason not to run a primary mail server on a residential account.
People are more likely to tell you to go fly a kite if you do have
trouble. Starting with your own ISP.

If your Speakeasy assigned IP worked for your needs that's great for
you, but anecdotal evidence from one or two ISP accounts is hardly what
anyone could call a "big picture". After more than 20 years of getting
computers to play nice with each other in every way shape and form
imaginable I can *guarantee* you it's not the big picture. You were
lucky to be the exception to a rule, and the situation is getting
worse not better.

-- 
     _?_      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
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From cb at lim.nl  Sat Dec 30 00:03:39 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:03:39 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/30/06, Avi Schwartz  wrote:

> It all depends on the ISP when I was using Speakeasy, I had a static IP
> and I had no problem of being blocked so I was my primary transport.
> Unfortunately, at least in my area, Comcast does not offer static IPs so
> I had to change to relaying through my ISP.  I still receive all my mail
> directly though

By "direct" I take it to mean incoming mail is delivered directly to
your MTA... but how do you do this if you don't have a permanent IP
number? Your MX record needs to point to a permanent address, no?

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sat Dec 30 00:12:37 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:12:37 +0100
Subject: xvidcap like: video screenshots
In-Reply-To: <1167434976.4740.7.camel@r4000>
References: <1167403570.4739.4.camel@r4000>
	
	<1167434976.4740.7.camel@r4000>
Message-ID: <1167437557.4740.9.camel@r4000>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 00:29 +0100, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 15:28 +0000, Freddie Ruddick wrote:
> > http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xvidcap/xvidcap_1.1.4p1_i386.deb
> 
> Would you know where couls I find the _source_ package of this? I mean
> the .dsc and *.diff at least. The *.orig is easy to find.

I found some:
http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3582





From ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com  Sat Dec 30 00:19:01 2006
From: ubuntu-users874 at cfftechnologies.com (Avi Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:19:01 -0600
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
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Message-ID: <4595B075.9050002@cfftechnologies.com>

Colin Brace wrote:

> On 12/30/06, Avi Schwartz  wrote:
>
>   
>> It all depends on the ISP when I was using Speakeasy, I had a static IP
>> and I had no problem of being blocked so I was my primary transport.
>> Unfortunately, at least in my area, Comcast does not offer static IPs so
>> I had to change to relaying through my ISP.  I still receive all my mail
>> directly though
>>     
>
> By "direct" I take it to mean incoming mail is delivered directly to
> your MTA... but how do you do this if you don't have a permanent IP
> number? Your MX record needs to point to a permanent address, no?
>
>   
I don't have a static IP for 3 years now and I still have my own domain 
and everything works.  Sites like dyndns or freedns (there are others 
too, but I am only familiar with dyndns) come to the rescue.  You 
install a small program on your machine (some routers even have it built 
in!) and when your ISP changes your IP, the program connects to the that 
company's site and updates your DNS records.  It has worked very well 
for me.

Avi



From zhihang.wang at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 00:43:42 2006
From: zhihang.wang at gmail.com (zhihang wang)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:43:42 +0800
Subject: How can I recove the Recycle Bin to the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06
In-Reply-To: <1167360791.6932.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <212696550612281642v3cddb576o3d82d9c3307a6376@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167360791.6932.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <212696550612291643t3803241dreadd27ebf98c6f2f@mail.gmail.com>

I recover the trash icon successfully following your directions. Thank you
very much.
Also I thank  Jens Cedlind for the warming reply.
Good luck!


On 12/29/06, Tim Frost  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 08:42 +0800, zhihang wang wrote:
> >
> > I delete the Recycle Bin icon from the Desktop in Ubuntu 6.06. How can
> > I recover it?
>
> Right-click the panel, and select 'Add to Panel...' from the menu that
> pops up.  That brings up a dialog box with a range of items that can be
> added to the panel.  In the section headed 'Desktop & Windows' there is
> a trash icon.  Select that, and click 'Add'.  The trash applet will
> appear on the panel that you right-clicked.
>
> You can add other items to the panel that way, then click the close
> button of the dialog box when you finish.
>
>
> Tim
>
>
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From pgort at iprimus.com.au  Sat Dec 30 00:53:58 2006
From: pgort at iprimus.com.au (Peter Gort)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:53:58 +1100
Subject: iMac 600 MHZ
In-Reply-To: <20061228212811.7869.qmail@web82712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061228212811.7869.qmail@web82712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2BD6F8A8-5231-40D2-AF7F-9E96191F61DA@iprimus.com.au>

Thanks to everyone who replied both list and back channel, and  
especially for the "idiot's guide" to how to get around it.

On 29/12/2006, at 8:28 AM, Ubence Quevedo wrote:

> Check this forum thread on how to get the graphical install to work  
> properly.
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296870
>
> Here is the pertinent text from the link:
>
> After booting is complete,
> 1. ctrl-option-F1 (should give you a command prompt)
> 2. type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (return)
> 3. Modify "HorizSync" to 58-62 and "VertRefresh" to 75-117. Both  
> are in the monitors section.
> 4. Disable DRI (in the modules section, put a hash mark (#) at the  
> beginning of the line containing "load dri").
> 4. ctrl-O (return) to write edited file
> 5. ctrl-X to exit nano back to command line
> 6. type: sudo killall -HUP gdm (return) to restart Gnome
>
> I tried this and it worked, no slow down or anything after the  
> install.
>
> However, when I did a distro upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, things just  
> broke again, I couldn't get it fixed, so I gave up.
>
> The iMac I installed on was a 500Mhz Graphite G3 with 512MB of RAM.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Ubence
>




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 01:26:09 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:09 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4595B075.9050002@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
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Avi Schwartz wrote:

> I don't have a static IP for 3 years now and I still have my own
> domain and everything works.  Sites like dyndns or freedns (there are
> others too, but I am only familiar with dyndns) come to the rescue.
> You install a small program on your machine (some routers even have
> it built in!) and when your ISP changes your IP, the program connects
> to the that company's site and updates your DNS records.  It has
> worked very well for me.

If you're talking about a hostname.homelinux.net style redirect when you
refer to "having your own domain" you should know the two have almost
nothing in common. For one thing your forward and reverse DNS won't
be the same. More and more mail servers are rejecting mail for this
reason alone, and it's actually the redirect itself that can in rare but
becoming more common situations cause mail to be bounced when it
otherwise wouldn't.

Ironically enough someone just reported this exact problem, using
DynDNS and a *static* IP no less, in another group I frequent. Here's
a sanitized copy of the bounce itself...

 Error connecting to primary server 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'.
 550 5.7.1 Client host rejected: Your forward and reverse DNS do not
 match for your IP so this looks like spam [xx.xx.xxx.xxx]. This is a
 simple fix that your administrator / ISP can do for you. Please have
 them do this so you can send e-mail through our system.

-- 
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    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sat Dec 30 01:34:27 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:34:27 +0100
Subject: Fn + Screen brightness on Asus F3JV
Message-ID: <1167442467.10032.4.camel@r4000>

Hi,
I have an Asus laptop (F3JV) and Fn+volume_up or Fn+volume_down is
really OK.
But screen brightness is not possible to be set.
Would you know any thing about that?
Is it more an X setting or what could be a tip?

Thank you.




From ruscook_oz at yahoo.com.au  Sat Dec 30 01:49:56 2006
From: ruscook_oz at yahoo.com.au (ruscook)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:49:56 +1100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4595B075.9050002@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>		<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>	<20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>	<4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>	
	<4595B075.9050002@cfftechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <4595C5C4.2020409@yahoo.com.au>

Avi Schwartz wrote:
> Colin Brace wrote:
>
>   
>> On 12/30/06, Avi Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> It all depends on the ISP when I was using Speakeasy, I had a static IP
>>> and I had no problem of being blocked so I was my primary transport.
>>> Unfortunately, at least in my area, Comcast does not offer static IPs so
>>> I had to change to relaying through my ISP.  I still receive all my mail
>>> directly though
>>>     
>>>       
>> By "direct" I take it to mean incoming mail is delivered directly to
>> your MTA... but how do you do this if you don't have a permanent IP
>> number? Your MX record needs to point to a permanent address, no?
>>
>>   
>>     
> I don't have a static IP for 3 years now and I still have my own domain 
> and everything works.  Sites like dyndns or freedns (there are others 
> too, but I am only familiar with dyndns) come to the rescue.  You 
> install a small program on your machine (some routers even have it built 
> in!) and when your ISP changes your IP, the program connects to the that 
> company's site and updates your DNS records.  It has worked very well 
> for me.
>
> Avi
>
>   
I use no-ip for the same thing. Works like a charm.

My website is hosted at home (personal one not the business one). I use 
fetchmail, dovecot and postfix to d/l my and my families many email 
accounts into one imap account each, linked to our logins, I have SSL 
imap and squirrelmail available for offsite access to these imap 
accounts and it works well. 

Fetchmail is a bit of a resource hog, but it and the mail all run on 
their own server not the desktop so this is not really a problem.  
Squirrelmail can't use my normal yahoo smtp account to send, but can use 
my ISPs account so I can send and receive whether I be at home or behind 
the work firewall.

A bit of a pain to decipher and set up, just ask Wade Smart ;-), but 
well worth it if you travel, have multiple mail accounts or multiple 
machines at home.

-- 
Kind Regards Russell
==================
www.windsorcycles.com.au
bikes.no-ip.info
Linux user #369094
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From iallicock at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 02:15:40 2006
From: iallicock at gmail.com (Irwin Allicock)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:15:40 +0000
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <1167405652.32171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
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Sorry Magnus... haven't heard of any work around.  Have you ever used it
with Breezy? If you have...did it work well?
I posted it as a bug but so far I have gotten no response...

On 12/29/06, Magnus Runesson  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 14:03 -0400, Irwin Allicock wrote:
> ...
> >
> > The reason I do that is due to the fact that on the first connect
> > attempt  the modem never initializes ... It only initializes on the
> > second try.  Seems as though wvdial is a bit broken in Dapper and
> > Edgy...works fine in Breezy with the GUI i.e without doing any configs
> > with wvdial if i remember correctly.
>
> I does also have this problem in Dapper on my Mother in Law's computer.
> It can take several times to get it work, if at all. Is there a
> workaround for the problem any where?
>
> > Even in first configuring the modem with Edgy I have to "sudo
> > wvdialconf" at least three time before it recognizes the modem...but I
> > guess stranger things have happened...hehe....
> >
> > Irwin
>
>
> /Magnus
> --
> Magnus Runesson 
> Linuxalert
>
>
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From ben at cvrse.com  Sat Dec 30 02:32:15 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:32:15 +1100
Subject: Fn + Screen brightness on Asus F3JV
In-Reply-To: <1167442467.10032.4.camel@r4000>
References: <1167442467.10032.4.camel@r4000>
Message-ID: <20061230023215.GA5237@rip.cvrse.com>

* Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi,
> I have an Asus laptop (F3JV) and Fn+volume_up or Fn+volume_down is
> really OK.
> But screen brightness is not possible to be set.
> Would you know any thing about that?
> Is it more an X setting or what could be a tip?

i had the same problem with my fe series vaio, smartdimmer is the solution
i used. i just put 'smartdimmer -s 9&' in my /etc/rc.local which sets the
brightness to a level i like on boot, however you could use the -i & -d
options bound to a key combo if you require more flexability. however as 
far as i know this tool only works with nvidia cards.

-- 
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From ynd at lntenc.com  Sat Dec 30 04:22:31 2006
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:52:31 +0530
Subject: Downloading binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
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From stanb at panix.com  Sat Dec 30 04:23:58 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:23:58 -0500
Subject: Controling access to mythweb
Message-ID: <20061230042358.GA11934@teddy.fas.com>

I had an incident o a previous myth backend where someone deleted files
remotely, using mythweb.

I'm setting up a new backend using Ubuntu 6.10, and I would like to contro
access to the mythweb, by requireing a user name and password. I recall
that I need to use httaccess to achieve this.

How can I integrate this into th Ubuntu installation of mythweb?

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From mehul.forums at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 04:40:25 2006
From: mehul.forums at gmail.com (mehul)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:10:25 +0530
Subject: Downloading binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1375fd8a0612292040x485f1c44jce6ba7694ccfdf2d@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/06, Yagnesh Desai  wrote:
>
> Friends;
>
> My ubuntu installation is not having internet connection.
>
> I have figured out how to bring and install a packages on it from cyber
> cufe
> with help of some recommendations from this group. But its lot of headache
>
> as some dependencies lead to lot of too and fro.
>
> Can any one tell me how do I get the list of .deb debendancies with
> the download address ( http://archives.ubuntu.com/ . . . . )
>
> I need to download these files from a cyber cufe which is not having linux
> . .
>
> Hope I am clear on my question.
>
> Yangesh
>

You can search for the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
 it will list the package with
all the dependancies. That's the best way I know. I don't know if
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From leafno.20.eatallspam at spamgourmet.com  Sat Dec 23 21:50:36 2006
From: leafno.20.eatallspam at spamgourmet.com (Walter Mautner)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:50:36 +0100
Subject: wireless network + wired network = ?
References: <1166819866.7010.10.camel@worldventures>
	<20061222213849.GA5256@rip.cvrse.com>
	<1166870721.17839.2.camel@worldventures>
Message-ID: 

Gabriel Dragffy wrote:

....
> Aha!  I wanted to do this in the beginning, my extra switch has an
> uplink-port on it, but the sireless linksys has non such uplink port. In
> my experience if I connect the regular port of the linksys to the uplink
> on the switch it won't work. As you have said though I may need to
> re-crimp the cable into a x-over format. Cheers!!

The uplink port on your wireless router may connect to your broadband, or is
interally wired to the adsl or whatever "modem".
But then, you can have a really cheap switch with 8 ports and auto-uplink,
where it doesn't matter if you use straight or crossover cables anywhere.
The router should hand out dhcp addresses for many more then the 4 physical
ports plus wireless, but you may have locked it by MAC address
so "strangers" can't obtain a lease, or otherwise limited the range.
Using the mentioned computer as a 2nd router/bridge doesn't bring any
advantage but adds to your energy bills, and another point of failure as
well.
You would have to set it for connection sharing and maybe 192.168.2.0/24 
on the interface connected to your switch - and setup a dhcp server that 
only serves the 2nd interface.
-- 
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From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 09:23:35 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:23:35 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost>


> > Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
> > that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
> > using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
> > entered.
> 
> sudo update-alternatives --config java

Thanks so far, now, my next question. There are 2 possible downloads
from the Java website one described as self extracting and the other as
RPM. I think I should use the RPM version as this seems to put the
various files where needed in the system whereas the self extracting
seems not to do this. I would be most grateful for your expert opinion
please.

Norman




From Gilles at Gravier.org  Sat Dec 30 09:38:26 2006
From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:38:26 +0100
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>

I use the self extracting binary... I don't like the idea of installing 
RPMs on a DEB environment.

I did have to tweak the "alternatives" settings for that to be properly 
integrated into ubuntu, but you can do it simply by modifying what the 
/usr/bin/java and other related binaries link to (they point to 
/etc/alternatives/XXX which you need to link to what you want).

I've just done this to get Java 1.6 to run... quite nicely... on my 
Ubuntu laptop.

Gilles.

norman a écrit :
>>> Could some kind person please jog my memory. I have a vague recollection
>>> that, before java 2RE can be used, it is necessary to make a selection
>>> using a terminal. My problem is that I cannot remember what needs to be
>>> entered.
>>>       
>> sudo update-alternatives --config java
>>     
>
> Thanks so far, now, my next question. There are 2 possible downloads
> from the Java website one described as self extracting and the other as
> RPM. I think I should use the RPM version as this seems to put the
> various files where needed in the system whereas the self extracting
> seems not to do this. I would be most grateful for your expert opinion
> please.
>
> Norman
>
>
>   



From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 10:02:33 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:02:33 +0000
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 16:12 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> For the past 2 hours I've been trying to send messages and replies to
> the group and am getting this back on every message - 
> 
>       To: "Ubuntu User List" 
>       Subject: Wireless - Dapper
>       Sent:     Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
> 
> 
> did not reach the following recipient(s):
> peter at gizmoman.net on Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
> 
>       The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message
>  was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient
>  directly to find out the correct address.
>       
> 
> This happens whether I am replying to a post, or starting a new post.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this???

Just happened to me.

Norman
> 
> 




From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 10:06:50 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:06:50 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost>  <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 10:38 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> I use the self extracting binary... I don't like the idea of installing 
> RPMs on a DEB environment.
> 
> I did have to tweak the "alternatives" settings for that to be properly 
> integrated into ubuntu, but you can do it simply by modifying what the 
> /usr/bin/java and other related binaries link to (they point to 
> /etc/alternatives/XXX which you need to link to what you want).
> 
> I've just done this to get Java 1.6 to run... quite nicely... on my 
> Ubuntu laptop.

You are very fortunate in that you know what you are doing. I have no
real idea on how to tweak anything thus, my instinct is to go for the
easiest for me to do. I know how to type instructions into a terminal
and that's as far as my experience goes.

Norman




From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 10:18:44 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:18:44 +0000
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 10:02 +0000, norman wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 16:12 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> > For the past 2 hours I've been trying to send messages and replies to
> > the group and am getting this back on every message - 
> > 
> >       To: "Ubuntu User List" 
> >       Subject: Wireless - Dapper
> >       Sent:     Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
> > 
> > 
> > did not reach the following recipient(s):
> > peter at gizmoman.net on Sat Dec 30 07:55:43 2006
> > 
> >       The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message
> >  was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient
> >  directly to find out the correct address.
> >       
> > 
> > This happens whether I am replying to a post, or starting a new post.
> > 
> > Is anyone else seeing this???
> 
> Just happened to me.
> 
> Norman

Just got 2 more both sent to my home address. Is this some sort of
attempt to build up a list for advertising purposes from those who
bother to reply?

Norman

Norman




From trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk  Sat Dec 30 10:29:22 2006
From: trevor.nye at trnye.co.uk (Trevor Nye)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:29:22 +0100
Subject: hide linux partitions from Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <5dfe07540612290351i2697d2aai5409d4d31eed2df3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200612301029.kBUATgPm009334@smtp-prs04.proxy.aol.com>

On 12/29/06, Felipe Figueiredo < philsf at ufrj.br> wrote: 

Hi,

I have almost always used dual boot here, but I am using LVM since only a
few 
months. To my dismay, Windows does NOT auto-ignore these partitions, giving
me useless D:, E: , drives.

More than the inconvenient of having my CD-ROM drive letter pushed away to
the
middle of the alphabet, I am constantly startled by the possibility that 
Windows actually corrupts my main OS partitions'.

So, does anybody know how to hide non-FAT partitions from Windows? I am
using
Edgy 6.10 up-to-date.

regards
FF

 

In windohz 

Control panel

Administrative tools

Computer management

Disk management ---- you will see a graphic of your disk layout, right click
on the drive you want to change the drive letter of 

Click Change you will see a drop down of the available letters, allocate the
Ubuntu space a letter of "y" & "z"

 

Click back out again and finish

 

 

HTH

 

Regards

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From mehdi.public at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 11:34:05 2006
From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:34:05 -0600
Subject: fetch and store packages from repo cd
Message-ID: <1abd6b930612300334x76a0a513w3fff5db0de753d42@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

How should I set apt config files to fetch and store packages from an ubuntu
repository CD ? I need packages to be copied and stored in
/var/cache/apt/archives

Thanks

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From cb at lim.nl  Sat Dec 30 11:39:31 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:39:31 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061229190325.35c3a882@chisel>
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>
	<4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229190325.35c3a882@chisel>
Message-ID: 

On 12/30/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:

> It doesn't just depend on the ISP, it depends on every mail server you
> have any contact with at all. Even the "big boys" have occasional
> problems getting mail through. The nice thing for them is they have the
> leverage to get things fixed in a timely manner. That's yet another
> reason not to run a primary mail server on a residential account.
> People are more likely to tell you to go fly a kite if you do have
> trouble. Starting with your own ISP.
>
> If your Speakeasy assigned IP worked for your needs that's great for
> you, but anecdotal evidence from one or two ISP accounts is hardly what
> anyone could call a "big picture". After more than 20 years of getting
> computers to play nice with each other in every way shape and form
> imaginable I can *guarantee* you it's not the big picture. You were
> lucky to be the exception to a rule, and the situation is getting
> worse not better.

A question then for you:  Up to now, my domains have been registered
at ISP x, I have ADSL via ISP y, and web site hosted at company z. The
primary mail server has been the web hosting company. I am thinking of
giving the latter account up and hosting my pages on my own sever. If,
following your advice, I don't run the primary mailserver myself, who
then should I ask to do so? My ADSL ISP? Some other third party?

Thanks.

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From rvhaasteren at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 11:44:28 2006
From: rvhaasteren at gmail.com (Rutger van Haasteren)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:44:28 +0000
Subject: no USB in Edgy [SOLVED] <-- needed a custom kernel
Message-ID: <78d24f7a0612300344v64e2a6a8v9a956cdc2b210711@mail.gmail.com>

Since nobody responded I guess I am alone in this, but I solved the problem
anyways. I took a kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ and compiled it for my
system. Everything works now, including all my USB devices... Strange that
nobody else has had this problem. It really is a problem with the stock Edgy
kernel...

Rutger

On 12/28/06, Rutger van Haasteren  wrote:
>
> I discovered where it goes wrong in Edgy: the kernel! This is the problem:
>
> The Edgy stock kernel doesn't let me use usb. The 'lsusb' command crashes
> or gives an empty list:
>
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
>
> This also happens with a live cd. I knew it worked in Dapper, so I took a
> Dapper i386 kernel from a live cd and put it in my /boot. I edited my
> /boot/grub/menu.lst to load the Dapper kernel for my edgy system. Now all
> usb devices DO WORK in Edgy!!!! Of course there were other problems, but
> this certainly shows that the Edgy stock kernel isn't perfect. I am kind of
> surprised no one else encountered this problem. Anyways, should I file this
> as a bug, and if so: where? And what can I do to let my Edgy system use a
> correct kernel that does work with my system? TIA!
>
> Rutger
>
>
>
> On 12/22/06, Rutger van Haasteren  wrote:
> >
> > Is there no-one that doesn't have any problems with usb on edgy? I do
> > not have an unusual configuration. My mainboard is a msi RS480-IL (socket
> > 939). Weird, because my Dapper is still working like a charm, but it is
> > annoying to have to revert to it just for printing.
> >
> > Rutger
> >
> > On 12/20/06, Rutger van Haasteren < rvhaasteren at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have a strange problem in Edgy. I still have a working dapper
> > > installed, but my edgy install doesn't recognize my usb devices like a
> > > printer, joystick or iPod. In dapper lsusb gives for example:
> > >
> > > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3011 Hewlett-Packard
> > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 044f:b304 ThrustMaster, Inc. Firestorm Dual
> > > Power
> > > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > >
> > >
> > > but in Edgy I only get:
> > >
> > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > >
> > > I have gotten my printer to work once in Edgy, but I haven't been able
> > > to reproduce it. Hope someone knows what it could be...   Cheers,
> > >
> > > Rutger
> > >
> >
> >
>
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From cb at lim.nl  Sat Dec 30 12:25:00 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:25:00 +0100
Subject: no USB in Edgy [SOLVED] <-- needed a custom kernel
In-Reply-To: <78d24f7a0612300344v64e2a6a8v9a956cdc2b210711@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78d24f7a0612300344v64e2a6a8v9a956cdc2b210711@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On 12/30/06, Rutger van Haasteren  wrote:

> Since nobody responded I guess I am alone in this, but I solved the problem
> anyways. I took a kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ and compiled it for my
> system. Everything works now, including all my USB devices... Strange that
> nobody else has had this problem. It really is a problem with the stock Edgy
> kernel...

Nice you were able to solve the problem. If you haven't already done
so, I would open a bug report for this on launchpad. Follow the links
from the Ubuntu main page...

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 12:55:02 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:55:02 +1100
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:06:50 +0000
norman  wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 10:38 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> > I use the self extracting binary... I don't like the idea of installing 
> > RPMs on a DEB environment.
> > 
> > I did have to tweak the "alternatives" settings for that to be properly 
> > integrated into ubuntu, but you can do it simply by modifying what the 
> > /usr/bin/java and other related binaries link to (they point to 
> > /etc/alternatives/XXX which you need to link to what you want).
> > 
> > I've just done this to get Java 1.6 to run... quite nicely... on my 
> > Ubuntu laptop.
> 
> You are very fortunate in that you know what you are doing. I have no
> real idea on how to tweak anything thus, my instinct is to go for the
> easiest for me to do. I know how to type instructions into a terminal
> and that's as far as my experience goes.

Do you need the latest java ? If not, there are packages from the
multiverse repository you can install: -

sun-java5-bin    <-- this will pull in the runtime as a dependency

So, assuming you don't need the very latest, I would suggest that you add
the multiverse repository if you haven't already 
( see
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096 )

( apologies for the truly ugly URL from the wiki ;-)

then

sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin    ( or just use synaptic )

then

sudo update-alternatives --config java 

and choose  the number for the "sun java " alternative

If you need the latest, do not use the RPM - use the extracting binary as
Gilles suggests - but that involves a bit more legwork than simply
enabling multiverse and installing the package I suggested.

HTH

Peter




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 13:10:28 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:10:28 +1100
Subject: laptop power management!
In-Reply-To: <1167414819.5416.34.camel@localhost>
References: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
	<20061229183717.73df5054.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167414819.5416.34.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061231001028.f38a6aaa.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:53:39 -0500
John Dangler  wrote:

> I'm running Dapper 6.06 LTS...
> It's odd that my power managment icon showed up in the status bar of my
> laptop until my last reboot, and now it no longer shows at all. 

Under System --> Preferences --> Power Management , on the "General" tab,
there should be options for the Notification Area . For instance you
should see "Only display when charging or discharging" and so on.

Make sure that you have a notification area -

Right-click panel , Add to Panel - Notification Area

> But,
> when it was there, it seemed to work ok, except that I had to mouse over
> it to know (in text) how much power was left on the battery.  It didn't
> seem to be that accurate, though.  At one point, mousing over would say
> "you have 3 hours 45 minutes of power left"... and then, 5 minutes later
> - "you have 2 hours 12 minutes of power left"... and then, 10 minutes
> later - "You have 3 hours 58 minutes of power left"...

On my iBook, the calculation sometimes takes a few seconds to settle down
and show a consistent value - perhaps that is what you are seeing?

Peter



From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 13:19:06 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:19:06 +1100
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
	<1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:18:44 +0000
norman  wrote:

> Just got 2 more both sent to my home address. Is this some sort of
> attempt to build up a list for advertising purposes from those who
> bother to reply?

No, I think, as Derek suggested, it is just someone who subscribed using an
address that has since become invalid - I expect it will stop as soon as
the relevant admins fix it :)

The ones I am seeing are being tagged as spam by bogofilter and dropped
into my spam directory, which suits me fine ;-)

Peter



From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 13:33:04 2006
From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:33:04 +0000
Subject: Kubuntu Edgy Kscd does not find the audio CD
Message-ID: <200612301333.08324.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com>

Hi

Tried to solve this one with a search on Google but can't find 
anything that fixes the bug.  When I start Kscd with a CD in my CD 
player I find that it does not find the CD and will not play it.  The 
CD player is /dev/hdb.   A look in /etc/fstab shows this....

    IW   /etc/fstab                                      Row 1    Col 
1    1:29  Ctrl-K H for help
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#                
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/hda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=a86f9914-d73a-4c97-b52c-fe8d2393d110 / ext3 
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=5897e883-d0e1-44de-a12e-c23c9f0e90fd none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1     udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0        0

I kind of get the impression that something needs to be linked to 
something or the permissions for Kscd might be wrong.  I've seen this 
before on previous SuSE releases but I'm not sure what to do with 
Kubuntu to sort it out.

Can anyone make any suggestions ?


-- 
Richard
www.sheflug.org.uk



From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 13:38:45 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:38:45 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>

< snip >

> > You are very fortunate in that you know what you are doing. I have no
> > real idea on how to tweak anything thus, my instinct is to go for the
> > easiest for me to do. I know how to type instructions into a terminal
> > and that's as far as my experience goes.
> 
> Do you need the latest java ? If not, there are packages from the
> multiverse repository you can install: -
> 
> sun-java5-bin    <-- this will pull in the runtime as a dependency

The application I want to run specifies J2SE JRE. I have tried
sun-java5.bin but the application does not fully run. For example the
various windows appear and seem to work except that images needed do not
show.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Norman




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 13:58:52 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:58:52 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu Edgy Kscd does not find the audio CD
In-Reply-To: <200612301333.08324.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com>
References: <200612301333.08324.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061231005852.0eb99664.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:33:04 +0000
Richard Ibbotson  wrote:

> I kind of get the impression that something needs to be linked to 
> something or the permissions for Kscd might be wrong.  I've seen this 
> before on previous SuSE releases but I'm not sure what to do with 
> Kubuntu to sort it out.
> 
> Can anyone make any suggestions ?

Here on Dapper 6.06 LTS, kscd has an "Extras" button lower right on the
GUI - choosing "Configure kscd" --> Settings and Behaviour shows an entry
field for the device - in may case it points to /dev/cdrom, which is a
symlink to /dev/hdc

$ ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-12-31 00:13 /dev/cdrom -> hdc

If your cdrom is on /dev/hdb , I would try typing in /dev/hdb directly in
that space, unless "ls -l /dev/cdrom " already points at /dev/hdb.

Peter



From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 14:28:34 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:28:34 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1167488914.4809.19.camel@localhost>

< big snip >

Following on I now have two directories stored in my Home folder
the .bin and the extracted file. Do I need to install either of these
and, if so, please advise me on the correct procedure. 

Norman




From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org  Sat Dec 30 14:53:12 2006
From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:53:12 +0100
Subject: wvdial
In-Reply-To: <1167405652.32171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <009201c72a87$44496240$3b2e56c7@700011g>
	<3c5484cf0612280905r6ee05cf3se2a22617385c38b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<946fbfd60612281003m1d4fd4fds91eb86a996648f69@mail.gmail.com>
	<1167405652.32171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1167490392.5270.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I was answering Irwins reply with wrong mail address. 

The modem worked well in Breezy.

/Magnus


On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 15:20 +0000, Magnus Runesson wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 14:03 -0400, Irwin Allicock wrote:
> ...
> > 
> > The reason I do that is due to the fact that on the first connect
> > attempt  the modem never initializes ... It only initializes on the
> > second try.  Seems as though wvdial is a bit broken in Dapper and
> > Edgy...works fine in Breezy with the GUI i.e without doing any configs
> > with wvdial if i remember correctly.
> 
> I does also have this problem in Dapper on my Mother in Law's computer.
> It can take several times to get it work, if at all. Is there a
> workaround for the problem any where?
> 
> > Even in first configuring the modem with Edgy I have to "sudo
> > wvdialconf" at least three time before it recognizes the modem...but I
> > guess stranger things have happened...hehe.... 
> > 
> > Irwin
> 
> 
> /Magnus
> -- 
> Magnus Runesson 
> Linuxalert
> 

-- 
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Linuxalert




From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Fri Dec 29 10:09:10 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:09:10 +0100
Subject: laptop power management!
In-Reply-To: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
References: <200612281945.02905.ricardocastanho@uol.com.br>
Message-ID: <1167386950.5963.1.camel@localhost>

I don't know if it counts as bells and whistles but in power management
you can set the icon to be always visible. Then you can always see how
much charge is left.

Duncan

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From dontodd at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 16:04:17 2006
From: dontodd at gmail.com (Todd Slater)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:04:17 -0500
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
	<1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
	<20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <9421dc6f0612300804p28f13c3av508f63e96d710add@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/06, Peter Garrett  wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:18:44 +0000
> norman  wrote:
>
> > Just got 2 more both sent to my home address. Is this some sort of
> > attempt to build up a list for advertising purposes from those who
> > bother to reply?
>
> No, I think, as Derek suggested, it is just someone who subscribed using an
> address that has since become invalid - I expect it will stop as soon as
> the relevant admins fix it :)
>
> The ones I am seeing are being tagged as spam by bogofilter and dropped
> into my spam directory, which suits me fine ;-)
>
> Peter

It is odd that list users are receiving the message, as it's something
that mailman should either handle itself by automatically unsubbing
bounced addresses, or the notices should go to the list admins only,
not the entire list.

Todd



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 16:10:29 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:10:29 -0500
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <880dece00612251252i441bd1d7q2ec1a898d810bf6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229165718.62f573ea@chisel>
	<4595A074.8030905@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229190325.35c3a882@chisel>
	
Message-ID: <20061230111029.7d03b850@chisel>

Colin Brace wrote:

> On 12/30/06, Jeffrey F. Bloss  wrote:
> 
> > It doesn't just depend on the ISP, it depends on every mail server
> > you have any contact with at all. Even the "big boys" have
> > occasional problems getting mail through. The nice thing for them
> > is they have the leverage to get things fixed in a timely manner.
> > That's yet another reason not to run a primary mail server on a
> > residential account. People are more likely to tell you to go fly a
> > kite if you do have trouble. Starting with your own ISP.
> >
> > If your Speakeasy assigned IP worked for your needs that's great for
> > you, but anecdotal evidence from one or two ISP accounts is hardly
> > what anyone could call a "big picture". After more than 20 years of
> > getting computers to play nice with each other in every way shape
> > and form imaginable I can *guarantee* you it's not the big picture.
> > You were lucky to be the exception to a rule, and the situation is
> > getting worse not better.
> 
> A question then for you:  Up to now, my domains have been registered
> at ISP x, I have ADSL via ISP y, and web site hosted at company z. The
> primary mail server has been the web hosting company. I am thinking of
> giving the latter account up and hosting my pages on my own sever. If,
> following your advice, I don't run the primary mailserver myself, who
> then should I ask to do so? My ADSL ISP? Some other third party?

You're asking me... "Which vehicle should I buy, a 40 foot RV or a
bicycle?". I have no clue what your idea of good transportation is, how
many people you intend to move around and how far, what they're like, or
how much money you're wiling to spend on getting for A to B. :)

My gut answer is and always will be to do it yourself if you want it
done right. But I'm a gear head who enjoys fiddling with things other
people probably find frustrating. Because of that I'm  probably not the
best person to ask because I would tell you to do the fiber drop in
your living room with a rack bolted to the wall next to the big screen.

I wouldn't for one second consider letting my service provider handle
any "business class" email if I only had a residential agreement with
them. Residential users have essentially no service agreement at all,
and if something does go awry they can and will tell you to pound salt.

I also know that at least in these parts there's no difference between
residential an business accounts besides a couple more email addresses,
small portions of "off site storage" space, and an (optional) static
IP. That tells me even business accounts at my provider will be
problematic if I want to go full tilt "self hosted". Your mileage may
vary of course.

Third party providers are an entire chapter themselves. A lot of people
solve their problems by using something like SMTP.Com, essentially a
transparent "smart host" for your egress email. Ingress traffic is
still handled as you would normally, directly to you or through your
account provider. I suspect this is where you want to be, but that's
just intuition. What you'll need to do is talk to your ISP and get set
up with whatever sort of bare minimum account they offer to officially
let you run public servers, and host everything yourself with some
traffic like outgoing email being "proxied" by a third party.

Or you could have everything hosted off site. Google just turned up
over a million hits on "mail host". Good luck. 

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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 16:32:50 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:32:50 -0500
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <9421dc6f0612300804p28f13c3av508f63e96d710add@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
	<1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
	<20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<9421dc6f0612300804p28f13c3av508f63e96d710add@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>

Todd Slater wrote:

> On 12/30/06, Peter Garrett  wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:18:44 +0000
> > norman  wrote:
> >
> > > Just got 2 more both sent to my home address. Is this some sort of
> > > attempt to build up a list for advertising purposes from those who
> > > bother to reply?
> >
> > No, I think, as Derek suggested, it is just someone who subscribed
> > using an address that has since become invalid - I expect it will
> > stop as soon as the relevant admins fix it :)
> >
> > The ones I am seeing are being tagged as spam by bogofilter and
> > dropped into my spam directory, which suits me fine ;-)
> >
> > Peter
> 
> It is odd that list users are receiving the message, as it's something
> that mailman should either handle itself by automatically unsubbing
> bounced addresses, or the notices should go to the list admins only,
> not the entire list.

Has anyone examined Received: headers to see how the messages are
getting to you? Are they actually coming through the list, or from
somewhere else?

As long as the server bouncing the messages respects the Return-Path
header, and your messages are sent to the list only, you shouldn't
see bounces. If you "CC to sender" or "reply to all" by default you
might get a bounce also if the bogus address shows up in almost any
header in the original. That's all determined by your mail client. And
of course the server doing the bouncing could just be broken.

It should be pretty easy to tell what's what from the headers of one of
the bounced messages, but for some reason I'm not seeing any of them....

*shrug*

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From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 16:55:38 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:55:38 +0000
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
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	<20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>
Message-ID: <1167497739.24846.4.camel@localhost>


> Has anyone examined Received: headers to see how the messages are
> getting to you? Are they actually coming through the list, or from
> somewhere else?

This is the headers do they mean anything to you.

Norman

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From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Sat Dec 30 16:58:13 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:58:13 +0100
Subject: Quick question(s) re dosfsck
In-Reply-To: <4595AFB0.3030904@iinet.net.au>
References: <45959910.7030603@weblore.com>  <4595AFB0.3030904@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <1167497893.6193.1.camel@localhost>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 08:15 +0800, The Joker wrote:
> Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can comment on this one if I get it 
> wrong, but I think you can change the options in the /etc/fstab file to 
> skip checking VFAT partitions.
> 
> I believe it's the last option in the line in question.
> 
> A relevant line from my /etc/fstab file is:
> 
> UUID=42D2-898B  /media/data     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 
>        0
> 
> (Line may wrap)
> 
> Change the last number (probably 1) in the line referencing your drive 
> to a 0 and everything should be hunky-dory.
That's how I fixed it. Remember to file bugs for annoying user issues
like this.

Here's the bug report for this one:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/59293

Duncan

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From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 16:58:29 2006
From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:58:29 +0000
Subject: Kubuntu Edgy Kscd does not find the audio CD
In-Reply-To: <20061231005852.0eb99664.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: <200612301333.08324.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com>
	<20061231005852.0eb99664.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
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Peter

> Here on Dapper 6.06 LTS, kscd has an "Extras" button lower right on
> the GUI - choosing "Configure kscd" --> Settings and Behaviour
> shows an entry field for the device - in may case it points to
> /dev/cdrom, which is a symlink to /dev/hdc

Done that and the CD is still not seen in the drive.  Even been into 
Kcontrol and tried to set up /dev/hdcand /dev/hdb in there.  Neither 
of them work with audio CDs and the CDROM drive won't work with a 
data CD either.   I'm confused.  I used to get this on SuSE 6.3 to 
7.0.

>
> $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-12-31 00:13 /dev/cdrom -> hdc

Hmm....

# ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-12-19 16:22 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
# ls -l /dev/hdb
brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 64 2006-12-19 16:22 /dev/hdb        

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=5897e883-d0e1-44de-a12e-c23c9f0e90fd none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1     udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0        0


Seems a bit strange to me :)  Maybe I should swap /dev/hdc  
to  /media/cdrom1 and /dev/hdb to /media/cdrom0 ?  It's almost as 
though the CDROM (cdrom0) wasn't detected when the software was 
installed and the CD-Writer (cdrom1) was.  

Anyone any ideas ?


-- 
Richard



From wade at wadesmart.com  Sat Dec 30 17:19:06 2006
From: wade at wadesmart.com (Wade Smart)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:19:06 -0600
Subject: Keyboard symbols - where are they?
Message-ID: <1167499146.447.14.camel@wadesmart>

12302006 1118 GMT-6

Where are the copy right symbols and British pound symbols? 






From richard at lamont.me.uk  Sat Dec 30 17:50:49 2006
From: richard at lamont.me.uk (Richard Lamont)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:50:49 +0000
Subject: Keyboard symbols - where are they?
In-Reply-To: <1167499146.447.14.camel@wadesmart>
References: <1167499146.447.14.camel@wadesmart>
Message-ID: <4596A6F9.1020405@lamont.me.uk>

Wade Smart wrote:

> 12302006 1118 GMT-6
> 
> Where are the copy right symbols and British pound symbols? 

Right-click on the panel, select "add to panel". Then scroll down to
"Utilities" and drag and drop "Character Palette" to the panel.

Having installed  this gnome panel applet, you can click on its up-arrow
to select the row with the character you want. Click on the character to
select it, and then paste it into your application.


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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 18:06:58 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:06:58 -0500
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <1167497739.24846.4.camel@localhost>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
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	<20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
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	<1167497739.24846.4.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061230130658.6c4d04cc@chisel>

norman wrote:

> 
> > Has anyone examined Received: headers to see how the messages are
> > getting to you? Are they actually coming through the list, or from
> > somewhere else?
> 
> This is the headers do they mean anything to you.

Only that my message got to you by way of the list. :)

Sorry, my bad... I meant one of the bounced messages itself. The
headers from the actual error report will tell if that message came
through the list, or direct from the offending server to your account.
And the message that caused the bounce wouldn't hurt either. It will
most likely confirm the suspicion that some list readers are replying
to "all" and some are not. Those who reply to addresses other than the
list itself are of course subject to the whims and faults of whoever
they send messages to. Not much the list maintainers can do about it.

That's why I reply *only* to the list. No CC's to the author or
anything unless I say so specifically. Gotta love Claws-Mail for that.
It's configurable to reply list-only by default, but the options for
"all" and "author" are a drop down selection in the composition
window. :-)

I see you're using evolution... not to knock a fine piece of software
or anything, but it being a "groupware" type application I suspect it
will default to replying to every address it sees. It's been ages since
I used it, but I remember it being funny that way. It use to multi-post
Usenet messages (generate a separate message for each group) rather than
cross post by putting all the group names in the Newsgroups header of
a single post. It's a bit annoying to people who like to read messages
only once. ;)

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From diesch at spamfence.net  Sat Dec 30 03:42:07 2006
From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:42:07 +0100
Subject: Intro and a few questions
In-Reply-To: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway> (Chris Gilland's message of
	"Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:50:08 -0500")
References: <1167317408.16555.15.camel@Gateway>
Message-ID: <87fyayrqwg.fsf@spamfence.net>

Chris Gilland  wrote:

> 3.  My last question is, is there any program that will allow me to use
> my computer as an alarm clock.  Yes, I do know I could set up a kron
> job, but I don't quite feel ready yet to tackle kron.  I've been told
> for beginners, it's somewhat complicated to start with.

cron is for jobs that youewant to start regulary (like every day or
every week). For a job you just want to start once there's at. It's
usage is quite easy:

diesch at vogon:~% at 7:00 tomorrow
warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
at> play ~/sound/alarm.mp3



If you wan't a GUI there's gnome-schedule




   Florian
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From diesch at spamfence.net  Sat Dec 30 03:27:17 2006
From: diesch at spamfence.net (Florian Diesch)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:27:17 +0100
Subject: Edgy and Nokia E50
Message-ID: <87k60arrl6.fsf@spamfence.net>


Hi!

I'm trying to sync my Nokia E50 mobile phone with by Egdy box.
So far without success  :-(

I tried multisync, gnokii and wammu using bluetoothe, irda and cable
without success (cable causes egdy to crash when unplugging - seems to
be problem with the USB controller). 

With bluetooth (preferred) I get a connection to the phone but after
entering the password at the phone the connection just gets closed.

doesn't help so far.

Anybody can give me some hints?



   Florian
-- 




From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 18:25:07 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:25:07 -0500
Subject: Windows Button
Message-ID: 

Is there something useful I can do with the "Windows" button on my keyboard?
Say something  little more Linux/Ubuntu-esque, like maybe the "Applications"
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From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 18:43:11 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:43:11 +0000
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
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Message-ID: <1167504191.24846.10.camel@localhost>

< big snip >
> 
> Only that my message got to you by way of the list. :)
> That's why I reply *only* to the list. No CC's to the author or
> anything unless I say so specifically. 

I only send to the list and reply to the list no copies or cross
posting.

The header I sent was obtained from the bounced mail. Would you like to
see the actual message received?

Norman






From jdavila at hampshire.edu  Sat Dec 30 19:03:05 2006
From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:03:05 -0500
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: <4594D0F0.50508@fahrlander.net>
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com>	<4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>	<1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost>
	<4594D0F0.50508@fahrlander.net>
Message-ID: <4596B7E9.30004@hampshire.edu>

Brian Fahrlander wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Duncan Lithgow wrote:
>> On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 00:52 -0600, Brian Fahrlander wrote:
>>>> After trying various tools I'm using dvdstyler which is easy to use and
>>>> offers enough things for me to create a new DVD quite fast[1] YMMV.
>>>> Hint: Don't use the one packaged in dapper/egdy and compile the version
>>>> from upstream yourself, since there are some issues and missing features
>>>> I found quite handy.
>> For the record, and I hope some comment, I have just made a first go at
>> an overhaul of the http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring.
>>
>> I would be grateful if a few people subscribed to the page so they can
>> help keep an eye on the accuracy and usefulness of the content. This
>> issue of DVD Authoring is fraught with trouble as a look at the page
>> shows - so the more eyes and comments - the better.
>>
>> Please give me some comments about the page, I would like to make it
>> useful, and comments are a great way to start helping.
> 
>     Done and done.  Great idea, guy!
> 


While we're all talking about DVD authoring, let me ask a question a 
regarding a problem I had recently.

I authored a dvd using dvdstyler. I went all the way to creating an iso 
of the dvd. I burned one, and it had no sound. When I used the "file" 
command on the iso, it reported the image having mp2 sound. I know I 
need to have sound set to ac3, and I had selected that option 
everywhere, but it seems like the command being passed to dvdauthor was 
somehow incorrect. The VOB files created by the process, in fact DID 
have sound. But the iso didn't. I ended up using the tovid graphic 
interface to create the image, but I miss some of the options that 
dvdstyler has.

Any ideas? Has anyone seen this problem before?


-- 

******************************************************
Jaime J. Davila
Associate Professor of Computer Science
Hampshire College
School of Cognitive Science
jdavila at hampshire dot edu
http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila
*******************************************************



From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Sat Dec 30 19:37:56 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:37:56 +0100
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: <4596B7E9.30004@hampshire.edu>
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>
	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> <4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>
	<1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost> <4594D0F0.50508@fahrlander.net>
	<4596B7E9.30004@hampshire.edu>
Message-ID: 

On 30/12/06, Jaime Davila  wrote:
> While we're all talking about DVD authoring, let me ask a question a
> regarding a problem I had recently.
>
> I authored a dvd using dvdstyler. I went all the way to creating an iso
> of the dvd. I burned one, and it had no sound. When I used the "file"
> command on the iso, it reported the image having mp2 sound. I know I
> need to have sound set to ac3, and I had selected that option
> everywhere, but it seems like the command being passed to dvdauthor was
> somehow incorrect. The VOB files created by the process, in fact DID
> have sound. But the iso didn't. I ended up using the tovid graphic
> interface to create the image, but I miss some of the options that
> dvdstyler has.
>
> Any ideas? Has anyone seen this problem before?

I haven't seen this before personally.

I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going to give you my standard answer:

You're trying to find a solution to something, unfortunately you
haven't said much about the problem or your attempts to solve it.
Before I use my time to see if I can find a solution for you, maybe
you could try and find one yourself. Good places to start are help
guides, documentation and searching the web for the error message or
exact problem you're having. It's unlikely you're the first. If you
still need help I'm sure someone (maybe me) on this list ill help you,
but for now I'm going to use my time on problems people are actively
working on themselves.

I hope there's no hard feelings, and hopefully this'll help you find
your own solution.

Duncan



From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com  Sat Dec 30 19:47:28 2006
From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:47:28 -0000
Subject: grub not installing
Message-ID: <000e01c72c4b$56d5ccd0$0301a8c0@Michael>

One of the more experienced Linux people from one of the LUGs I attend tried 
to Dual Boot my system with Edgy and Windows XP as I think I have some 
speech games which won't work under Linux.
He brought a drive with him and tried to repartition it and he also 
installed some extra memory for me.
He tried to get Linux to boot after it had repartitioned the drive only for 
some reason he couldn't get grub to install even though he was doing the 
correct commands to get it working it still refused to boot. He has had to 
offer to help sort it out for me in February and suggested I try and get 
hold of a blank drive which I could use.
Why couldn't he get grub installed which was why it wouldn't boot into Edgy?
When someone else installed Edgy on my laptop they installed it no problem 
when using the Alternative CD although that wasn't a Dual Boot system unlike 
what was supposed to have happened on my desktop? 




From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 19:58:57 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:58:57 +1100
Subject: Windows Button
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20061231065857.0d6b4628.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:25:07 -0500
"Tee Jay Rosene"  wrote:

> Is there something useful I can do with the "Windows" button on my keyboard?
> Say something  little more Linux/Ubuntu-esque, like maybe the "Applications"
> menu or something?

Well, yes - have a look at System-Preferences- Keyboard Shortcuts,
find something, highlight it and hit the key - for example I just made my
left "Windows key" do "start terminal " - is that Linux/Ubuntu-esque
enough? *grin*

You can do the same for the Applications menu - the default is 
but by the method above you can override that.

Peter



From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 30 20:01:56 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:01:56 +1100
Subject: Correction: Re: Windows Button
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20061231070156.eb71a42d.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:25:07 -0500
"Tee Jay Rosene"  wrote:

> Is there something useful I can do with the "Windows" button on my keyboard?
> Say something  little more Linux/Ubuntu-esque, like maybe the "Applications"
> menu or something?

Oops I said  was the default for opening the menu - of course it
is , sorry. 

Peter



From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 30 20:04:43 2006
From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:04:43 +0100
Subject: Windows Button
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts is where you can assign some
keys and all that.  Personally I like using it for shortcut options in
amaroK than the generic menu opener.

On 12/30/06, Tee Jay Rosene  wrote:
>
> Is there something useful I can do with the "Windows" button on my
> keyboard? Say something  little more Linux/Ubuntu-esque, like maybe the
> "Applications" menu or something?
>
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From jdangler at atlantic.net  Sat Dec 30 20:06:01 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:06:01 -0500
Subject: SVG Viewer
Message-ID: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost>

I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS (gnome)... I was looking through
packages.ubuntu for a viewer plug-in to firefox for SVG viewing.  I
didn't find much (other than the gimp plug-in), and was wondering if
this would work with firefox, or should I get the Adobe plug-in ?

tia




From jdangler at atlantic.net  Sat Dec 30 20:07:41 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:07:41 -0500
Subject: Windows Button
In-Reply-To: <20061231065857.0d6b4628.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
References: 
	<20061231065857.0d6b4628.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1167509262.5416.61.camel@localhost>

very cool!  If I could get a my other peripherals working with
Ubuntu/Linux (printer/webcam), I'd have more useful buttons to use...

Thanks for the tip, Peter!

John


On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 06:58 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:25:07 -0500
> "Tee Jay Rosene"  wrote:
> 
> > Is there something useful I can do with the "Windows" button on my keyboard?
> > Say something  little more Linux/Ubuntu-esque, like maybe the "Applications"
> > menu or something?
> 
> Well, yes - have a look at System-Preferences- Keyboard Shortcuts,
> find something, highlight it and hit the key - for example I just made my
> left "Windows key" do "start terminal " - is that Linux/Ubuntu-esque
> enough? *grin*
> 
> You can do the same for the Applications menu - the default is 
> but by the method above you can override that.
> 
> Peter
> 




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Dec 30 20:13:18 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:13:18 -0500
Subject: grub not installing
In-Reply-To: <000e01c72c4b$56d5ccd0$0301a8c0@Michael>
References: <000e01c72c4b$56d5ccd0$0301a8c0@Michael>
Message-ID: <20061230151318.5a731d16@chisel>

MICHAEL WEAVER wrote:

> One of the more experienced Linux people from one of the LUGs I
> attend tried to Dual Boot my system with Edgy and Windows XP as I
> think I have some speech games which won't work under Linux.
> He brought a drive with him and tried to repartition it and he also 
> installed some extra memory for me.
> He tried to get Linux to boot after it had repartitioned the drive
> only for some reason he couldn't get grub to install even though he
> was doing the correct commands to get it working it still refused to
> boot. He has had to offer to help sort it out for me in February and
> suggested I try and get hold of a blank drive which I could use.
> Why couldn't he get grub installed which was why it wouldn't boot
> into Edgy? When someone else installed Edgy on my laptop they
> installed it no problem when using the Alternative CD although that
> wasn't a Dual Boot system unlike what was supposed to have happened
> on my desktop? 

My wild guess would be some sort of hardware/firmware/BIOS boot record
protection, or maybe an insidious piece of antivirus software that
bootstraps "unused" areas of the MBR/boot record.

I'd check my advanced BIOS setup screens for the word "virus" or
"protect" first. If that doesn't turn up anything I'd look for a clean,
spare hard drive and try installing to that on your machine without
your other drive(s) hooked up. If all that works as it should I'd start
looking for ways to *completely* remove whatever bit of dross it is
that's resetting your boot sector for you after the grub virus infects
it. ;-)

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From michael at weblore.com  Sat Dec 30 20:21:46 2006
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:21:46 -0600
Subject: Black & White Printing
Message-ID: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com>

I have a color inkjet printer (HP 5440) which is working fine on my
system. Sometimes, however, I have a color document that I want to print
in black & white (greyscale). I remember that in my Windows days, I
could just select printer properties and say "black and white". I seem
to remember - at some point - doing something similar in Linux, although
maybe I'm going senile.

Does anyone know a simple way to tell CUPS to render the document in
black and white?

tia
---Michael



From norman at littletank.org  Sat Dec 30 20:40:39 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:40:39 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167488914.4809.19.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167488914.4809.19.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167511239.4890.14.camel@localhost>


> < big snip >
> 
> Following on I now have two directories stored in my Home folder
> the .bin and the extracted file. Do I need to install either of these
> and, if so, please advise me on the correct procedure. 

I am sorry to come again on this topic but, despite reading all the help
pages I could find and understand, I am no further on. To recap I right
clicked on the .bin file and ran in terminal. This resulted in the
extracted file called j2re1.4.2_13 appearing in my Home Folder. when I
go to a terminal and enter sudo update-alternatives --config java
j2re1.4.2_13 does not appear so I assume it would not be effective. What
is the next step I must take to make it do its job?

Norman




From andre at osku.de  Sat Dec 30 20:51:18 2006
From: andre at osku.de (Andre Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:51:18 +0100
Subject: SVG Viewer
In-Reply-To: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost>
References: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167511878.5974.0.camel@kloz>

afaik, firefox1.5+ (gecko1.8+) has building svg support...


On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:06 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS (gnome)... I was looking through
> packages.ubuntu for a viewer plug-in to firefox for SVG viewing.  I
> didn't find much (other than the gimp plug-in), and was wondering if
> this would work with firefox, or should I get the Adobe plug-in ?
> 
> tia
> 
> 




From andre at osku.de  Sat Dec 30 20:59:38 2006
From: andre at osku.de (Andre Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:59:38 +0100
Subject: SVG Viewer
In-Reply-To: <1167511878.5974.0.camel@kloz>
References: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost> <1167511878.5974.0.camel@kloz>
Message-ID: <1167512378.5974.5.camel@kloz>

ment *build-in, of course :)
heres more info what works and what not
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5

and adobe svg plugin is "dead"
http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html

cheers
andre

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:51 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> afaik, firefox1.5+ (gecko1.8+) has building svg support...
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:06 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> > I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS (gnome)... I was looking through
> > packages.ubuntu for a viewer plug-in to firefox for SVG viewing.  I
> > didn't find much (other than the gimp plug-in), and was wondering if
> > this would work with firefox, or should I get the Adobe plug-in ?
> > 
> > tia
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




From jdangler at atlantic.net  Sat Dec 30 21:17:59 2006
From: jdangler at atlantic.net (John Dangler)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:17:59 -0500
Subject: SVG Viewer
In-Reply-To: <1167512378.5974.5.camel@kloz>
References: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost>
	<1167511878.5974.0.camel@kloz>  <1167512378.5974.5.camel@kloz>
Message-ID: <1167513480.5416.77.camel@localhost>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:59 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> ment *build-in, of course :)
> heres more info what works and what not
> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5
> 
Andre~
I should clarify.  I'm running FF 1.5.0.8 on Dapper.  I came across a
site which threw up a message asking me about getting an SVG viewer
plug-in.  Reading through the link (above), it all points to ff 2.0
"...Firefox 2 continues to make progress toward a broader implementation
of Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) functionality. The only new feature
added above the support in Firefox 1.5 is , though a number of
specification and bug fixes have also been incorporated -- see below."

Since the link to the bug fixes exclusively deal with ff 2.0, I am lead
to believe that either little or no support for SVG is available in ff
1.5.x .

> and adobe svg plugin is "dead"
> http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html

Not sure about "dead" ... On the link to adobe - "Adobe customer support
for Adobe SVG Viewer will be discontinued on January 1, 2008."

If what I read on the Moz link is correct, there isn't support for SVG
in ff 1.5.x, and none will be available until ff 2.0 is released in
2007, meaning that the only browser which would support would be (yikes)
IE ?

> cheers
> andre
> 
> On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:51 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > afaik, firefox1.5+ (gecko1.8+) has building svg support...
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:06 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> > > I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS (gnome)... I was looking through
> > > packages.ubuntu for a viewer plug-in to firefox for SVG viewing.  I
> > > didn't find much (other than the gimp plug-in), and was wondering if
> > > this would work with firefox, or should I get the Adobe plug-in ?
> > > 
> > > tia
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




From andre at osku.de  Sat Dec 30 21:33:48 2006
From: andre at osku.de (Andre Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:33:48 +0100
Subject: SVG Viewer
In-Reply-To: <1167513480.5416.77.camel@localhost>
References: <1167509161.5416.58.camel@localhost>
	<1167511878.5974.0.camel@kloz>  <1167512378.5974.5.camel@kloz>
	<1167513480.5416.77.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167514428.5974.17.camel@kloz>

hmm,

svg _definetly_ works on ff1.5+, otherwise i wouldnt done my site
http://osku.de (no it doesnt do anything) and you could allso test the
examples here: http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/

i assume the site youre trying, wants explicit a (adobe?) svg plugin.
thats why it doesnt work with build-in svg support...

read again "The only new feature added above the support in Firefox 1.5
is " that means ff1.5 has all the features on the list expect
textpath...

and allmost forgot my tests with ff1.5
http://osku.de/svg/gui-examples/

cheers
andre

ps. iirc, opera has even better (complete) support on (build-in) svg
than ff (animation etc...)


On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 16:17 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:59 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > ment *build-in, of course :)
> > heres more info what works and what not
> > http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5
> > 
> Andre~
> I should clarify.  I'm running FF 1.5.0.8 on Dapper.  I came across a
> site which threw up a message asking me about getting an SVG viewer
> plug-in.  Reading through the link (above), it all points to ff 2.0
> "...Firefox 2 continues to make progress toward a broader implementation
> of Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) functionality. The only new feature
> added above the support in Firefox 1.5 is , though a number of
> specification and bug fixes have also been incorporated -- see below."
> 
> Since the link to the bug fixes exclusively deal with ff 2.0, I am lead
> to believe that either little or no support for SVG is available in ff
> 1.5.x .
> 
> > and adobe svg plugin is "dead"
> > http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html
> 
> Not sure about "dead" ... On the link to adobe - "Adobe customer support
> for Adobe SVG Viewer will be discontinued on January 1, 2008."
> 
> If what I read on the Moz link is correct, there isn't support for SVG
> in ff 1.5.x, and none will be available until ff 2.0 is released in
> 2007, meaning that the only browser which would support would be (yikes)
> IE ?
> 
> > cheers
> > andre
> > 
> > On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:51 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > > afaik, firefox1.5+ (gecko1.8+) has building svg support...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:06 -0500, John Dangler wrote:
> > > > I'm running Dapper 6.06LTS (gnome)... I was looking through
> > > > packages.ubuntu for a viewer plug-in to firefox for SVG viewing.  I
> > > > didn't find much (other than the gimp plug-in), and was wondering if
> > > > this would work with firefox, or should I get the Adobe plug-in ?
> > > > 
> > > > tia
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




From jcastelao at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 22:01:01 2006
From: jcastelao at gmail.com (Jorge Castelao)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:01:01 +0100
Subject: Black & White Printing
In-Reply-To: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com>
References: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>

El sáb, 30-12-2006 a las 14:21 -0600, Michael Satterwhite escribió:
> I have a color inkjet printer (HP 5440) which is working fine on my
> system. Sometimes, however, I have a color document that I want to print
> in black & white (greyscale). I remember that in my Windows days, I
> could just select printer properties and say "black and white". I seem
> to remember - at some point - doing something similar in Linux, although
> maybe I'm going senile.
> 
> Does anyone know a simple way to tell CUPS to render the document in
> black and white?

Printing from Openoffice, for example:

File --> Print...
In the print dialog box, click Properties..., then click label Device,
and you can change Printout mode or Resolution, Quality, Ink type

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From michael at weblore.com  Sat Dec 30 22:39:22 2006
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:39:22 -0600
Subject: Black & White Printing
In-Reply-To: <1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>
References: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com> <1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>
Message-ID: <4596EA9A.4040509@weblore.com>

Jorge Castelao wrote:
> El sáb, 30-12-2006 a las 14:21 -0600, Michael Satterwhite escribió:
>> I have a color inkjet printer (HP 5440) which is working fine on my
>> system. Sometimes, however, I have a color document that I want to print
>> in black & white (greyscale). I remember that in my Windows days, I
>> could just select printer properties and say "black and white". I seem
>> to remember - at some point - doing something similar in Linux, although
>> maybe I'm going senile.
>>
>> Does anyone know a simple way to tell CUPS to render the document in
>> black and white?
> 
> Printing from Openoffice, for example:
> 
> File --> Print...
> In the print dialog box, click Properties..., then click label Device,
> and you can change Printout mode or Resolution, Quality, Ink type

That's great when using OpenOffice, but I don't see those options in
other programs such as gpdf. Sometimes I need to print with programs
other than ooO.




From jason.ribeiro at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 22:51:25 2006
From: jason.ribeiro at gmail.com (Jason Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:51:25 -0500
Subject: Downloading binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

ljl (a regular on #ubuntu on freenode) is working on
http://www.ljl.byethost14.com/apt .  I'm not sure if it's finished,
but you may want to take a look at it.  The difference is it will get
you dependencies recursively whereas packages.ubuntu.com will only
give you the first level of dependencies.



From sturla at hitconsult.no  Sat Dec 30 23:30:20 2006
From: sturla at hitconsult.no (Sturla Holm Hansen)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:30:20 +0100 (CET)
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
Message-ID: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>

Hi list, I have a DWL-G630 revision E2 that I try to get to work in
Kubuntu 6.10.
I have tried all I could google up, this card uses an RALINK chipset, but
listed as "Ralink unknown device 0302" in lspci, I tried the rt61 and
rt2500 modules, both load but none connects to the freakin' card, so I'm
kinda stuck, I would like to get this to work without ndiswrapper, so any
hints anyone could give me would be great!

The thing I don't get is that the card shows up as wlan0, and SOMETIMES
find something when I run "iwlist scanning" but not all the time, but in
knetworkmanager it's listed as a wired network card.
I don't know what driver it's using as it is and I don't know why
knetworkmanager lists is as a wired card when it's named wlan0 and can
sometimes scan for networks...

Im stuck, so as I said, any suggestions....

Thanx

Sturla





From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 30 23:51:16 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:51:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: firestarer problem
Message-ID: <619735.28552.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I can not get on the Internet with my laptop when the FIREWALL IS ON.  I don't have any problems with my desktop which both share the same DSL connection.  I don't do any networking.  It was working.  I uninstall and re stalled but no luck.  Any suggestions?
Thanks - Dennis

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From T.Six at gmx.de  Sun Dec 31 00:02:15 2006
From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:02:15 +0100
Subject: firestarer problem
In-Reply-To: <619735.28552.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <619735.28552.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Dennis Castanos wrote the following on 31.12.2006 00:51:
> I can not get on the Internet with my laptop when the FIREWALL IS ON.  I don't have any problems with my desktop which both share the same DSL connection.  I don't do any networking.  It was working.  I uninstall and re stalled but no luck.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks - Dennis

Long way:
You can compare the two configs if you copy /etc/firestarter/ from your
desktop to your laptop and then do:

diff -qr path/to/etc/firestarter_from_working_pc /etc/firestarter/

I suppose some wrong setting there.

Then go on with the following:


Short way:
$ sudo aptitude purge firestarter
$ sudo aptitude install firestarter

HTH Thilo




From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 00:58:40 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:58:40 +1100
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
In-Reply-To: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>
References: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>
Message-ID: <20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Sturla Holm Hansen wrote:
> Hi list, I have a DWL-G630 revision E2 that I try to get to work in
> Kubuntu 6.10.
> I have tried all I could google up, this card uses an RALINK chipset, but
> listed as "Ralink unknown device 0302" in lspci, I tried the rt61 and
> rt2500 modules, both load but none connects to the freakin' card, so I'm
> kinda stuck, I would like to get this to work without ndiswrapper, so any
> hints anyone could give me would be great!
> 
> The thing I don't get is that the card shows up as wlan0, and SOMETIMES
> find something when I run "iwlist scanning" but not all the time, but in
> knetworkmanager it's listed as a wired network card.
> I don't know what driver it's using as it is and I don't know why
> knetworkmanager lists is as a wired card when it's named wlan0 and can
> sometimes scan for networks...
> 
> Im stuck, so as I said, any suggestions....

I have the same card, both the pci + pcmcia models, both are buried at
the bottom of my box of useless stuff, your no doubt having the same
problems i and the other subscribers to this[1] bug are having. the only
way i managed to get this card working was to compile the rt61 driver
from the ralink website[2], however the main problem i have with that
option was everytime i wanted to change to a different wireless network
i had to manually edit the firmware file and reload the kernel module,
although it was stable and useful if you were staying connected to the
same AP it didnt take long to get annoying when i started moving around.
just researching further it seems this code has been incorperated into
the rt2x00 project[3], so my advice at this point would be to follow
that route, try the beta drivers and if no luck with that try the cvs
version. good luck!



[1] -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/35474
[2] - although it no longer seems to be available from them anymore.
[3] - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/

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From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sun Dec 31 01:32:55 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:32:55 -0500
Subject: firestarer problem
In-Reply-To: <619735.28552.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <619735.28552.qm@web38714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061230203255.256cd15f@chisel>

Dennis Castanos wrote:

> I can not get on the Internet with my laptop when the FIREWALL IS
> ON.  I don't have any problems with my desktop which both share the
> same DSL connection.  I don't do any networking.  It was working.  I
> uninstall and re stalled but no luck.  Any suggestions? Thanks -
> Dennis

By "ON" you mean having the GUI running and the Status "active", right?

The obvious things to check are that you haven't clicked the "Lock
Firewall" button, which should be pretty obvious because everything
turns into a lock icon and the start/stop button goes away, and that you
haven't inadvertently set "Outbound Traffic Policy" in the Policy tab
to "Restrictive by default" (if it says "Inbound" beside Editing, use
the drop down to change it). 

Restrictive means that everything is shut off until you specifically
enable it. Permissive means it's allowed until you specifically shut it
off. For *outbound* traffic it's usually OK to leave it set to
"Permissive" unless you want to block everything but Web browsing and
email, for instance.

If neither one of those ideas bring you joy, let us know if there's
anything under Deny Connections or Deny Hosts. If there's nothing there
you might want to open a terminal window and with Firestarter active
type 'sudo iptables --list' without the quotes. The output will be
cryptic and considerable but it should tell you without a doubt what the
problem is. I'm not sure you want to post your firewall rules here, or
even if it's appropriate, but you could email them to "someone" if
you're comfortable doing that. ;-)

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From jdavila at hampshire.edu  Sun Dec 31 02:07:03 2006
From: jdavila at hampshire.edu (Jaime Davila)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:07:03 -0500
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: 
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com>
	<4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>	<1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost>
	<4594D0F0.50508@fahrlander.net>	<4596B7E9.30004@hampshire.edu>
	
Message-ID: <45971B47.7090009@hampshire.edu>

Duncan Lithgow wrote:
> On 30/12/06, Jaime Davila  wrote:
>> While we're all talking about DVD authoring, let me ask a question a
>> regarding a problem I had recently.
>>
>> I authored a dvd using dvdstyler. I went all the way to creating an iso
>> of the dvd. I burned one, and it had no sound. When I used the "file"
>> command on the iso, it reported the image having mp2 sound. I know I
>> need to have sound set to ac3, and I had selected that option
>> everywhere, but it seems like the command being passed to dvdauthor was
>> somehow incorrect. The VOB files created by the process, in fact DID
>> have sound. But the iso didn't. I ended up using the tovid graphic
>> interface to create the image, but I miss some of the options that
>> dvdstyler has.
>>
>> Any ideas? Has anyone seen this problem before?
> 
> I haven't seen this before personally.
> 
> I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going to give you my standard answer:
> 
> You're trying to find a solution to something, unfortunately you
> haven't said much about the problem or your attempts to solve it.
> Before I use my time to see if I can find a solution for you, maybe
> you could try and find one yourself. Good places to start are help
> guides, documentation and searching the web for the error message or
> exact problem you're having. It's unlikely you're the first. If you
> still need help I'm sure someone (maybe me) on this list ill help you,
> but for now I'm going to use my time on problems people are actively
> working on themselves.
> 
> I hope there's no hard feelings, and hopefully this'll help you find
> your own solution.
> 
> Duncan
> 


I have no hard feelings, but your message doesn't do much in terms of 
helping me find a solution. Your message also assumes some things that 
are not correct. Before posting my question, I spent (like I always do) 
quite a while searching on the ubuntu forums, and the web in general, 
for possible solutions, or at least causes for the problem. I posted my 
question only when all of that was unfruitful. I have not even found 
anyone else mentioning the problem. This is the process I've followed 
for the last 8 years that I've been working (exclusively) on the linux 
platform, and before that when working on several flavors of unix.

I have also spent enough time trying to solve the problem on my own to 
have discovered things like: the dvd needs to use the ac3 format to 
encode sound if it's to play on stand-alone dvd players; the VOB files 
created by dvdstyler as an intermediate step do have sound; the "file" 
command reports the generated iso as using the mp2 sound format, as 
opposed to the needed ac3; tovidgui generates a fully-working (as in 
"with sound") iso out of the same mpeg files, even though both tovidgui 
and dvdstyler work as front ends to the same dvdauthor.

I'll be happy to provide any additional information anyone might find 
useful in troubleshooting the behavior I'm noticing.

Best,

Jaime

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From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 02:12:22 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:12:22 +1100
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
	<1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
	<20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<9421dc6f0612300804p28f13c3av508f63e96d710add@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>
Message-ID: <20061231021222.GC10664@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> Has anyone examined Received: headers to see how the messages are
> getting to you? Are they actually coming through the list, or from
> somewhere else?
> 
> As long as the server bouncing the messages respects the Return-Path
> header, and your messages are sent to the list only, you shouldn't
> see bounces. If you "CC to sender" or "reply to all" by default you
> might get a bounce also if the bogus address shows up in almost any
> header in the original. That's all determined by your mail client. And
> of course the server doing the bouncing could just be broken.
> 
> It should be pretty easy to tell what's what from the headers of one of
> the bounced messages, but for some reason I'm not seeing any of them....

not sure why you are not recieving any of them, but they are coming
directly from the beachbum-server and not following the reply-to: but
the from: header, someone could notify the list admin to remove
peter at gizmoman.net or just add:

:0
* ^From.*administrator at beach-bum-solutions.com*
/dev/null

to your .procmailrc :)

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From peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au  Sun Dec 31 02:58:23 2006
From: peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au (Peter Garrett)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:58:23 +1100
Subject: Posts to user list not going through ?
In-Reply-To: <20061231021222.GC10664@vaio.cvrse.com>
References: <1167426748.5416.54.camel@localhost>
	<1167472953.4800.52.camel@localhost>
	<1167473924.4800.61.camel@localhost>
	<20061231001906.abf2b2b0.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<9421dc6f0612300804p28f13c3av508f63e96d710add@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061230113250.6350e2c0@chisel>
	<20061231021222.GC10664@vaio.cvrse.com>
Message-ID: <20061231135823.c4ffc5b6.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:12:22 +1100
ben darby  wrote:

>  someone could notify the list admin to remove
> peter at gizmoman.net or just add:
> 
> :0
> * ^From.*administrator at beach-bum-solutions.com*
> /dev/null
> 
> to your .procmailrc :)

I sent a polite note to the postmaster at beach-bum-solutions.com ;-)

just some pasted headers with an explanation of what was going on. I'm no
expert, but I think he is using the wrong headers to bounce this stuff
( i.e. it is going to senders rather than list address, where it would
obviously get bounced since, as far I know, the postmaster is not
subscribed ! Of course he would have *rather a lot* of bounced mail if he
had it configured this way... )

Fortunately bogofilter sees these bounce mails from the beachbum as spam
here ;-)

Peter



From slewin at rogers.com  Sun Dec 31 03:13:07 2006
From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:13:07 -0500
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
In-Reply-To: <20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>
References: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>
	<20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>
Message-ID: <45972AC3.4050501@rogers.com>

ben darby wrote:
> * Sturla Holm Hansen wrote:
>> Hi list, I have a DWL-G630 revision E2 that I try to get to work in
>> Kubuntu 6.10.
>> I have tried all I could google up, this card uses an RALINK chipset, but
>> listed as "Ralink unknown device 0302" in lspci, I tried the rt61 and
>> rt2500 modules, both load but none connects to the freakin' card, so I'm
>> kinda stuck, I would like to get this to work without ndiswrapper, so any
>> hints anyone could give me would be great!
>>
>> The thing I don't get is that the card shows up as wlan0, and SOMETIMES
>> find something when I run "iwlist scanning" but not all the time, but in
>> knetworkmanager it's listed as a wired network card.
>> I don't know what driver it's using as it is and I don't know why
>> knetworkmanager lists is as a wired card when it's named wlan0 and can
>> sometimes scan for networks...
>>
>> Im stuck, so as I said, any suggestions....
> 
> I have the same card, both the pci + pcmcia models,...
Wow!  All I did to get my DWL-G630 to work was to install theLinux 
restricted package.  It now works 100% perfectly without any troubles in 
Edgy, almost like it did in Dapper where it worked ot of the box 
automatically without needing to install anything.


-- 
Your friend,
Scott

Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu 6.10



From dennismouille at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 31 03:15:49 2006
From: dennismouille at yahoo.com (Dennis Castanos)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:15:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: firestarer problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <602588.61585.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thilo

I copy Firestarter folder to my usb stick from my desktop.  Is there a command that I can used in the terminal to copy the Firestarter folder in my home folder to  /etc/firestarter. I'm new to Ubuntu so I don't know if this can be done.

below, the two commands confuse me.  How does it know that my desktop fire folder in is my home directory, or maybe I just missing something.


$ sudo aptitude purge firestarter
$ sudo aptitude install firestarter
Thanks

Thilo Six  wrote: Dennis Castanos wrote the following on 31.12.2006 00:51:
> I can not get on the Internet with my laptop when the FIREWALL IS ON.  I don't have any problems with my desktop which both share the same DSL connection.  I don't do any networking.  It was working.  I uninstall and re stalled but no luck.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks - Dennis

Long way:
You can compare the two configs if you copy /etc/firestarter/ from your
desktop to your laptop and then do:

diff -qr path/to/etc/firestarter_from_working_pc /etc/firestarter/

I suppose some wrong setting there.

Then go on with the following:


Short way:
$ sudo aptitude purge firestarter
$ sudo aptitude install firestarter

HTH Thilo


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From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 03:16:03 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:16:03 -0500
Subject: Windows Button (Jeremy and Peter)
Message-ID: 

Thanks for the feedback guys, that's just what I was looking for! My
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From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 03:27:18 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:27:18 +1100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <4595A149.5030205@cfftechnologies.com>
References: <20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel>
	<880dece00612271403j3dc6def9ra9a1a4990176c8ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<50fg64-a7o.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>
	<4595A149.5030205@cfftechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <20061231032718.GA13708@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Avi Schwartz wrote:
> That's why I suggested that people that may have a downed connection for 
> a long period of time to get a (cheap) secondary MX but to make sure to 
> turn it on only when they need it or a ton of spam will come through it.

personally i use rollernet[1] who provide free backup MX, with spam
filtering you can control, and have it always have the MX set as i see
it pointless to have it only on when im away for extended periods as
even when im here i cant be 100% sure that the outside world can connect
to my server 100% of the time it tries if only for a few minutes and i
havent had one spam come through my secondary MX although i can see that
they have blocked plenty! 


[1] - http://rollernet.us/ 

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From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 03:33:15 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:33:15 +1100
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
In-Reply-To: <45972AC3.4050501@rogers.com>
References: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>
	<20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>
	<45972AC3.4050501@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <20061231033315.GB13708@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Scott wrote:
> ben darby wrote:
> > * Sturla Holm Hansen wrote:
> >> Hi list, I have a DWL-G630 revision E2 that I try to get to work in
> >> Kubuntu 6.10.
> >> I have tried all I could google up, this card uses an RALINK chipset, but
> >> listed as "Ralink unknown device 0302" in lspci, I tried the rt61 and
> >> rt2500 modules, both load but none connects to the freakin' card, so I'm
> >> kinda stuck, I would like to get this to work without ndiswrapper, so any
> >> hints anyone could give me would be great!
> >>
> >> The thing I don't get is that the card shows up as wlan0, and SOMETIMES
> >> find something when I run "iwlist scanning" but not all the time, but in
> >> knetworkmanager it's listed as a wired network card.
> >> I don't know what driver it's using as it is and I don't know why
> >> knetworkmanager lists is as a wired card when it's named wlan0 and can
> >> sometimes scan for networks...
> >>
> >> Im stuck, so as I said, any suggestions....
> > 
> > I have the same card, both the pci + pcmcia models,...
> Wow!  All I did to get my DWL-G630 to work was to install theLinux 
> restricted package.  It now works 100% perfectly without any troubles in 
> Edgy, almost like it did in Dapper where it worked ot of the box 
> automatically without needing to install anything.

what are the H/W + F/W versions on your card though? these companies mix
and match chipsets throughout the same product model without mention
other than a different HW/FW version number in the fine print. I brought
this card AFTER reading the wireless wiki as i was looking for a card
that would work out of the box, but didnt pay enough attention to the
versions & got the one that didnt work!

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From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 03:34:41 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:34:41 -0500
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
Message-ID: 

>
> Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:30:20 +0100 (CET)
> > From: "Sturla Holm Hansen" 
> > Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
> > To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        < 36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel at mail.hitconsult.no>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Hi list, I have a DWL-G630 revision E2 that I try to get to work in
> > Kubuntu 6.10.
> > I have tried all I could google up, this card uses an RALINK chipset,
> > but
> > listed as "Ralink unknown device 0302" in lspci, I tried the rt61 and
> > rt2500 modules, both load but none connects to the freakin' card, so I'm
> > kinda stuck, I would like to get this to work without ndiswrapper, so
> > any
> > hints anyone could give me would be great!
> >
> > The thing I don't get is that the card shows up as wlan0, and SOMETIMES
> > find something when I run "iwlist scanning" but not all the time, but in
> > knetworkmanager it's listed as a wired network card.
> > I don't know what driver it's using as it is and I don't know why
> > knetworkmanager lists is as a wired card when it's named wlan0 and can
> > sometimes scan for networks...
> >
> > Im stuck, so as I said, any suggestions....
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> > Sturla
>
> I have the a DWL G650, and although it is not the same card as yours, I
had the same problems. I actually banged my head against the wall for about
six months trying to figure out how to get it working. Finally, I posted a
question to users on ubuntu.ca and I was given very helpful and useful
advice. This is what it was:

>
> If you're on Edgy, search synaptic for restricted-modules, install the
> package for your architecture (probably 'generic' or 'i386'), reboot, and
> then it should be detected.
>
> If you're on Dapper I suggest you reboot after removing ndiswrapper.
>
> Once you've rebooted, check System>Administration>Networking, and see if
> the
> wireless card is listed. If there is an entry for wireless networking
> there,
> then your card has been detected.
>
> If the card is still not being detected, then I would first check that the
> pcmcia card bus and other laptop doodads are working properly - search the
> forums and the internet for linux on your particular computer.
>
> You may want to try booting the kernal with options such as noapic or
> acpi=off, to see if that works, the former was necessary on one of my
> laptops for it to recognise the soundcard, wifi and pcmcia bus on hoary.
>
> Once it's detected:
> 1. Turn off any security on your wireless network
> 2. Install network-manager and network-manager-gnome (assuming you're on
> Ubuntu)
> 3. Restart Gnome. You should see a network icon in the top righthand.
> Click
> it. Does it give you wireless network options? If so, sign onto your
> network.
> 4. Once you have it working, then you can enable the security, and network
> manager will disconnect you and ask you for the WEP passphrase/whatever.
> If
> you are using WPA security, then you have to install some other packages,
> so
> search for that in the forums.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Brendan


So now I pass this information on to you; I hope it helps. I know it sure
helped me.
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From slewin at rogers.com  Sun Dec 31 03:50:41 2006
From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:50:41 -0500
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
In-Reply-To: <20061231033315.GB13708@vaio.cvrse.com>
References: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>	<20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>	<45972AC3.4050501@rogers.com>
	<20061231033315.GB13708@vaio.cvrse.com>
Message-ID: <45973391.1060901@rogers.com>

ben darby wrote:
> what are the H/W + F/W versions on your card though?
I think the H/W ver is C2 and the F/W is 3.01.

> these companies mix
> and match chipsets throughout the same product model without mention
> other than a different HW/FW version number in the fine print.
I did not know that, that is good to know, thanks.

-- 
Your friend,
Scott

Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu 6.10



From teejayrosene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 04:00:20 2006
From: teejayrosene at gmail.com (Tee Jay Rosene)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:00:20 -0500
Subject: Undeliverable
Message-ID: 

>
> System Administrator  to me
> >  More options  22:45 (13 minutes ago)Your message
> >
> >      To: "ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com" 
> >      Subject: Re: DWL-G630 revision E2
> >      Sent:     Sun Dec 31 02:45:03 2006
> >
> >
> > did not reach the following recipient(s):
> > peter at gizmoman.net on Sun Dec 31 02:45:03 2006
> >
> >      The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message
> >  was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient
> >  directly to find out the correct address.
> >      
> >
> >
> > Final-Recipient: RFC822; peter at gizmoman.net
> > Action: failed
> > Status: 5.1.1
> > X-Supplementary-Info: beachbum-server.beach-bum-solutions.com
> > X-Display-Name: peter at gizmoman.net
>
>
Why do I keep getting these messages? My posts obviously show up on the
other end.
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From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 04:00:54 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:00:54 +1100
Subject: DWL-G630 revision E2
In-Reply-To: <45973391.1060901@rogers.com>
References: <36480.85.165.123.211.1167521420.squirrel@mail.hitconsult.no>
	<20061231005840.GA6984@vaio.cvrse.com>
	<45972AC3.4050501@rogers.com>
	<20061231033315.GB13708@vaio.cvrse.com>
	<45973391.1060901@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <20061231040054.GA14805@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Scott wrote:
> ben darby wrote:
> > what are the H/W + F/W versions on your card though?
> I think the H/W ver is C2 and the F/W is 3.01.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
shows that you got the ONE that works

> > these companies mix
> > and match chipsets throughout the same product model without mention
> > other than a different HW/FW version number in the fine print.
> I did not know that, that is good to know, thanks.

using yours as an example HW vC2 uses Atheros, where E1/2 uses the RT61

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From ben at cvrse.com  Sun Dec 31 04:06:00 2006
From: ben at cvrse.com (ben darby)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:06:00 +1100
Subject: Undeliverable
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20061231040600.GB14805@vaio.cvrse.com>

* Tee Jay Rosene wrote:
> Why do I keep getting these messages? My posts obviously show up on the
> other end.

see thread "Posts to user list not going through ?"

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From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at  Sun Dec 31 04:31:57 2006
From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:31:57 +0100
Subject: C programming environment
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0612120310x3115ad6cgd0206d6721b4b2c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <457D82A7.7000204@uni-graz.at>
	<4413284c0612120310x3115ad6cgd0206d6721b4b2c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45973D3D.6000007@uni-graz.at>

Hi,

thanks for all your replies! I tried anjuta but (like almost all IDEs)
it's too blown up for me. So I will stay with good old emacs and xterm.

Cheers
Dieter



From ynd at lntenc.com  Sun Dec 31 06:19:28 2006
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:49:28 +0530
Subject: Downloading binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
Message-ID: 

Dear Mehul;

Thanks for your suggestion.

I know this site but it gives links to
the source files while I prefer to use the .deb files
as its lot of problem for dumb user like me to
compile these source codes.

If I could also get the links to these deb files in
http://archive.ubuntu.com then it would be better.

Is there a possibility to read somthing like "packages.gz"
(just a guess that it always exist) used by synaptic and
locate the .deb files in the archive of ubuntu and debian.

Regards

Yagnesh

> > > > >
You can search for the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
it will list the package with
all the dependancies. That's the best way I know. I don't know ifthere's
another way




From ynd at lntenc.com  Sun Dec 31 06:31:10 2006
From: ynd at lntenc.com (Yagnesh Desai)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:01:10 +0530
Subject: binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
Message-ID: 

Jason;

Thanks a lot.

The link http://www.ljl.byethost14.com/apt is working and
I am thrilled . . .

It works on edgy while on dapper it seems a bit hit and miss
search.

Lorenzo J. Lucchini has also given source of the website under
GNU GPL.

Its a best New Year Gift yet. . . .
Yagnesh




From oozypal at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 07:41:48 2006
From: oozypal at gmail.com (OOzy Pal)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0300
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
Message-ID: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>

Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
Linux and Windows?

-- 
OOzy
Kubuntu-Edgy



From a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 31 08:04:30 2006
From: a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net (Anthony M Simonelli)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:04:30 -0600
Subject: Getting PCMCIA Modem working in Ubuntu 6.10
Message-ID: <1167552270.5051.8.camel@ams-laptop>

Hey Everyone!  I've switched from Debian Etch to Ubuntu Edgy and I'm
very happy so far (though Etch has come a long way).  I had to blacklist
the realtek modules "r818x" and "ieee80211_rtl" because it doesn't seem
to support WPA and am using ndiswrapper instead.  

Now that the wireless is working great, I'd like to use my PCMCIA modem
to dial into work.  It is a Dymex DX-200 PCMCIA modem and it worked
great on /dev/ttyS2 on Debian Etch, but no matter what I do, Ubuntu
doesn't detect any modem at all on my system (Gnome-PPP /
WVDialer).  /var/log/messages/ reveals the following when I insert it:

kernel: [17180700.592000] 1.0: ttyS2 at I/O 0x3e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

Is there something I'm missing?




From duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk  Sun Dec 31 08:05:21 2006
From: duncan at lithgow-schmidt.dk (Duncan Lithgow)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:05:21 +0100
Subject: DVD Authoring tools
In-Reply-To: <45971B47.7090009@hampshire.edu>
References: <458F88A6.6030502@fahrlander.net>
	<458FBCCC.7010709@welcomes-you.com> <4590C6B0.5010609@fahrlander.net>
	<1167326754.7064.4.camel@localhost> <4594D0F0.50508@fahrlander.net>
	<4596B7E9.30004@hampshire.edu>
	
	<45971B47.7090009@hampshire.edu>
Message-ID: <1167552321.6121.8.camel@localhost>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 21:07 -0500, Jaime Davila wrote:

> I have no hard feelings, but your message doesn't do much in terms of 
> helping me find a solution.
I have no solution for you. I decided to send that reply instead of
spending time searching for a solution.

> Your message also assumes some things that 
> are not correct. Before posting my question, I spent (like I always do) 
> quite a while searching on the ubuntu forums, and the web in general, 
> for possible solutions, or at least causes for the problem. I posted my 
> question only when all of that was unfruitful. I have not even found 
> anyone else mentioning the problem. 
That's fine, (almost) exactly what I do each time. But since you didn't
mention that in your original message I had to assume it hadn't
happened. I'm sure you noticed that quite a few people use this list as
a first resort instead of trying to learn how to find solutions
themselves. So, great that you've done it, but please mention it in the
request - it informs me (in this case) that there's no point me
searching for a solution. Clearly you've gone beyond mt basic knowledge
and know how and where to look.

> I have also spent enough time trying to solve the problem on my own to 
> have discovered things like: the dvd needs to use the ac3 format to 
> encode sound if it's to play on stand-alone dvd players; the VOB files 
> created by dvdstyler as an intermediate step do have sound; the "file" 
> command reports the generated iso as using the mp2 sound format, as 
> opposed to the needed ac3; tovidgui generates a fully-working (as in 
> "with sound") iso out of the same mpeg files, even though both tovidgui 
> and dvdstyler work as front ends to the same dvdauthor.
Odd, have you filed a bug against that behaviour?

Duncan

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From mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org  Sun Dec 31 11:07:09 2006
From: mr-ubuntu at linuxalert.org (Magnus Runesson)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:07:09 +0100
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167563229.5719.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 10:41 +0300, OOzy Pal wrote:
> Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
> Linux and Windows?

I have looked for this to, but not found any. If you are happy to just
use it with Linux you can use Linux filesystem encryption. Here is more
information about that:
http://theworldofapenguin.blogspot.com/2006/12/securing-your-laptop.html#links


-- 
Magnus Runesson 
Linuxalert




From amichai at iglu.org.il  Sun Dec 31 11:45:06 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:45:06 +0200
Subject: Rescue Mode?
Message-ID: 

Hi All,

A friend of mine decided he wants to make the move to Linux.

I gave him one of the CDs I ordered from Canonical's Ship-It (Ubuntu 6.06).
He tried to install it over the weekend.

He has WinXP installed and he wants Ubuntu to co-exist (for now...) on a
second Hard Drive.

While installing he managed to mess up the partition table and now he can't
access the Linux box....

I don't have all the details, but actually, what I wanted to ask was: How do
I boot the LiveCD to Rescue Mode? How do I wipe the MBR (fdisk /mbr?) and
re-install the GRUB Boot Loader?

Thanks!

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From jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com  Sun Dec 31 12:02:14 2006
From: jeremy.a.thompson+ubuntu at googlemail.com (Jeremy Thompson)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:02:14 +0100
Subject: Windows Button (Jeremy and Peter)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On 12/31/06, Tee Jay Rosene  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback guys, that's just what I was looking for! My
> keyboard shortcuts are now the way I want them.


No problem,
  Glad I'm able to start helping!

JT



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From ampster40 at comcast.net  Sun Dec 31 12:28:05 2006
From: ampster40 at comcast.net (Steve Jeppesen)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:28:05 -0600
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0300
OOzy Pal wrote:

> Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
> Linux and Windows?
> 

I just purchased a Kingston U3 DataTraveler 1 gig this past weekend and
noticed it had a password/security function built into it - however I
am unable to test it in either O.S. right now as it is at my place of
business - and I'm not!

http://www.kingston.com/flash/datatraveler_home.asp

That link provides a listing of their various USB flashdrives, and the
top one is listed as "Kingston DataTraveler Secure Privacy
NEW! DataTraveler Secure - Privacy Edition " - maybe that would work as
well?

the datatraveler I purchased has a couple of annoyances though.

When you plug it in, it mounts two drives, one "cd-rom" type and
one for your data.  That's for M$ and Linux. I can live with that.

The "cd-rom" mount doesn't allow you to delete anything, like a normal
cd-rom.  And according to the instructions, it comes with preloaded
"apps" on the data mount that can be deleted if desired.

I found you can delete those apps on the data mount, but every time you
plug that sucker back in, either in M$ or Linux, it copies three files
back over from the cdrom mount.  I find that to be rather suspicious
behavior myself and don't like it.

Other than that - it's really fast.

Hope this gets you pointed in a direction at least.

Steve




From cb at lim.nl  Sun Dec 31 12:52:31 2006
From: cb at lim.nl (Colin Brace)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:52:31 +0100
Subject: Home IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <20061231032718.GA13708@vaio.cvrse.com>
References: <20061227135228.5d56dc56@chisel> <20061228155550.0c5a9fdf@chisel>
	
	<20061229002804.4d440b75@chisel>
	<4594B0D4.1050707@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061229132550.514663d3@chisel>
	<45958388.2070101@cfftechnologies.com>
	<50fg64-a7o.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>
	<4595A149.5030205@cfftechnologies.com>
	<20061231032718.GA13708@vaio.cvrse.com>
Message-ID: 

On 12/31/06, ben darby  wrote:

> personally i use rollernet[1] who provide free backup MX, with spam
> filtering you can control, and have it always have the MX set as i see
> it pointless to have it only on when im away for extended periods as
> even when im here i cant be 100% sure that the outside world can connect
> to my server 100% of the time it tries if only for a few minutes

Thanksl for the tip. How have you set things up? Does your MUA poll
the backup server for mail or do you have it fetched in some other
way?

-- 
  Colin Brace
  Amsterdam



From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at  Sun Dec 31 13:11:29 2006
From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:11:29 +0100
Subject: xserver question
Message-ID: <4597B701.8000601@uni-graz.at>

Hi,

I've got a question concerning xorg-xserver and twinview mode (crt and
tv) on an nvidia gforce 6200.

Up to now I have the following configuration:

xorg.conf:


Section "Screen"

    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache]"
    Monitor        "ECOMO 750"
    DefaultDepth    24

    Option          "TwinView"
    Option          "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
    Option          "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, TV"
    Option          "HorizSync" "CRT-0: 30-121; TV-0: 30-50"
    Option          "VertRefresh" "CRT-0: 50-160; TV-0: 60"
    Option          "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
    Option          "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
    Option          "MetaModes" "CRT-0: 1600x1200, TV-0: 800x600; CRT-0:
1280x1024, TV-0: 800x600;"
    Option          "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
    Option          "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"

    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
    EndSubSection


In order to play a video on the tv set I now have to call mplayer in the
following way:

mplayer -xineramascreen 0 -stop-xscreensaver -ontop -geometry 1600:0 \
  -noborder -autosync 1 -x 790 -y 570 "$1"

Works ok. But I want to know if the following situation is possible:

I want to start a separate xserver for the TV set only when I need it
(and of course to be able to switch it off accordingly). The important
thing is that this xserver _may not_ influence my xserver for the crt.

Any help is highly appreciated.

TIA
Dieter







From amichai at iglu.org.il  Sun Dec 31 13:49:50 2006
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:49:50 +0200
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: <20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
Message-ID: 

That "cd-rom type" is the U3 fs containing pre-loaded apps to be used
anywhere you plug it in. It is actually supposed to be like this. If you
don't like it - you should've purchased another model....

The reason it's impossible to delete the apps is because they are hard coded
to the hardware and the files copied are the ones it needs as read / write
access....

Amichai.


On 12/31/06, Steve Jeppesen  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0300
> OOzy Pal wrote:
>
> > Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
> > Linux and Windows?
> >
>
> I just purchased a Kingston U3 DataTraveler 1 gig this past weekend and
> noticed it had a password/security function built into it - however I
> am unable to test it in either O.S. right now as it is at my place of
> business - and I'm not!
>
> http://www.kingston.com/flash/datatraveler_home.asp
>
> That link provides a listing of their various USB flashdrives, and the
> top one is listed as "Kingston DataTraveler Secure Privacy
> NEW! DataTraveler Secure - Privacy Edition " - maybe that would work as
> well?
>
> the datatraveler I purchased has a couple of annoyances though.
>
> When you plug it in, it mounts two drives, one "cd-rom" type and
> one for your data.  That's for M$ and Linux. I can live with that.
>
> The "cd-rom" mount doesn't allow you to delete anything, like a normal
> cd-rom.  And according to the instructions, it comes with preloaded
> "apps" on the data mount that can be deleted if desired.
>
> I found you can delete those apps on the data mount, but every time you
> plug that sucker back in, either in M$ or Linux, it copies three files
> back over from the cdrom mount.  I find that to be rather suspicious
> behavior myself and don't like it.
>
> Other than that - it's really fast.
>
> Hope this gets you pointed in a direction at least.
>
> Steve
>
>
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From dubmccormick at wvmcc.com  Sun Dec 31 13:58:06 2006
From: dubmccormick at wvmcc.com (David McCormick)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:58:06 -0500
Subject: Add Remove Applications
Message-ID: <4597C1EE.2040008@wvmcc.com>

Has the advanced feature of the add/remove program been removed from 
Edgy? I have been tring to install several programs that need a c 
compiler and they wont compile with the KDE C/C++ that I installed on 
initial installation. In Dapper I just installed the Gnome compiler by 
going to the advanced window and installing it. It seems strange to me 
that using the Gnome flavor of Ubuntu that the only compiler offered is 
the KDE one.

Dave



From joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 14:22:18 2006
From: joelbryan.juliano at gmail.com (Joel Bryan Juliano)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:22:18 +0800
Subject: Flashplayer and YouTube.
In-Reply-To: <87vek49ll7.fsf@mandala.my-fqdn.de>
References: <1166756831.5033.7.camel@ningbojoe-desktop>
	<87vek49ll7.fsf@mandala.my-fqdn.de>
Message-ID: 

On 12/22/06, Jhair Tocancipa Triana  wrote:
>
> Anthony Scott writes:
>
> > I am using the Gnome Epiphany Browser 2.14.3 with  on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I
> > have downloaded the appropriate plugin to play Shockwave/Flash
> > libflashplayer 9.0 d55. While the Youtube dls initially play with sound,
> > after a while, they freeze and I lose sound. If I try to make the dl
> > play from the start again, it will play for a little while and then
> > stop. At this stage there is no sound.
>
> I think I had exactly the same problem with earlier versions of the
> plugin.
>
> I use currently
>
>     File name: libflashplayer.so
>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78
>
> without any issues.


There is a major problem with linux flash 9 that it doesn't connect to a
webcam very easily, compared to version 7.

In YouTube, you can record a video on-the-fly as long as you have a flash
plugin,
It helps us linux users to record videos, because currently, PiTiVi, DiVa,
Kino, etc,
isn't ready yet. I can't find any open source application that can record
both sound and videos by a webcam (yet).

Happy New Year!
Joel


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From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sun Dec 31 14:24:01 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y))
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:24:01 +0100
Subject: Downloading binary (.deb) without ubuntu.
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <1167575041.4853.8.camel@asus>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 17:51 -0500, Jason Ribeiro wrote:
> ljl (a regular on #ubuntu on freenode) is working on
> http://www.ljl.byethost14.com/apt .  I'm not sure if it's finished,
> but you may want to take a look at it.  The difference is it will get

Written in PHP... 




From a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 31 14:50:20 2006
From: a.simonelli at sbcglobal.net (Anthony M Simonelli)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:50:20 -0600
Subject: Add Remove Applications
In-Reply-To: <4597C1EE.2040008@wvmcc.com>
References: <4597C1EE.2040008@wvmcc.com>
Message-ID: <1167576620.11466.4.camel@ams-laptop>

I believe in Edgy it is removed, but all it did was open Synaptic
Package Manager program found under SYSTEM --> ADMINISTRATION right?
Just try Synaptic and see if you can find the compiler you're looking
for.  You may need to add additional "channels" such as Community
Maintained, use the "Software Sources" program under the same menu to
find it.  

On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 08:58 -0500, David McCormick wrote:
> Has the advanced feature of the add/remove program been removed from 
> Edgy? I have been tring to install several programs that need a c 
> compiler and they wont compile with the KDE C/C++ that I installed on 
> initial installation. In Dapper I just installed the Gnome compiler by 
> going to the advanced window and installing it. It seems strange to me 
> that using the Gnome flavor of Ubuntu that the only compiler offered is 
> the KDE one.
> 
> Dave
> 




From T.Six at gmx.de  Sun Dec 31 14:57:32 2006
From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:57:32 +0100
Subject: firestarer problem
In-Reply-To: <602588.61585.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: 
	<602588.61585.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Dennis Castanos wrote the following on 31.12.2006 04:15:



> Is there a command that I can used in the terminal to copy the Firestarter folder in my home folder to  /etc/firestarter.
> I'm new to Ubuntu so I don't know if this can be done.
> 
> below, the two commands confuse me.  How does it know that my desktop fire folder in is my home directory, or maybe I just missing something.
> 
> 
> $ sudo aptitude purge firestarter
> $ sudo aptitude install firestarter



This comand has to be copy and pasted into a terminal (you get one when
hitting ALT+F2, then enter there gnome-terminal)

The above will erease firestarter completly including all it´s config.
After that it will install firestarter again with default settings.

I guess that´s what you want.


HTH Thilo




From napa at it-np.de  Sun Dec 31 15:17:31 2006
From: napa at it-np.de (napa at it-np.de)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:17:31 +0100
Subject: Installing xubuntu 606
Message-ID: <3257571.1849361167578251128.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>

Hello,

my system is currently running with ubuntu 5.10. 

I'm trying to upgrade to xubuntu 606 because the machine ist to small for gnome. The download of the file xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso is burned on  cd-rom. 

Upgrade via the upgrade manager does not work as it does not recognize the disk.

So I tried a complete new installation by rebooting with the disk inserted. But the the system (IBM Aptiva Intel Pentium III, 256 MB, 10GB HD, Floppy Drive, CD-ROM) does not boot the CD. It always boots the Version 5.10. Copying the sbm.bin file to the  
floppy disk did not work as well (the system does not recognize the floppy drive. So i mounted it manually by using sudo an copied it the same way)

However rebooting the System with a Slackware iso-image works.

What am I doing wrong?

1) Has the the iso-image to be changed before burning it to disk?
2) How can the floppy drive used properly under ubuntu?
3) Has the BIOS to be changed (but why does Slackware boot without change)?
4) Is there any shortut for installing and using xfce under 5.10

Best wishes for the next year.

Norbert



From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Sun Dec 31 15:38:44 2006
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:38:44 +0100
Subject: bluetooth not working
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

I cannot use the bluetooth device, that should be built-in in my hp tc4200
tablet laptop.
Nothing results as i ask for listing of Bluetooth devices:
    hcitool dev

Clicking on the kbluetooth applet yields: 'no working bluetooth adapter
found. Only local services will be displayed"


Any ideas?
Thank you for your help 
--
Pol

--- inc. 
Here included. the relevant output from system logs and commands:

      lsmod |grep hidp
       hidp                   34176  2
       l2cap                  27136  11 bnep,hidp,rfcomm
       bluetooth              53476  6 bnep,hidp,rfcomm,l2cap

      lsmod|grp  rfcomm
       rfcomm                 42260  3
       l2cap                  27136  11 bnep,hidp,rfcomm
       bluetooth              53476  6 bnep,hidp,rfcomm,l2cap


   dmesg | grp -i blue
      [17179637.764000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
      [17179637.764000] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager
initialized
      [17179637.764000] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
      [17179637.952000] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
      [17179637.952000] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
      [17179637.956000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
      [17179637.956000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
      [17179637.956000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7


----




From ampster40 at comcast.net  Sun Dec 31 15:43:03 2006
From: ampster40 at comcast.net (Steve Jeppesen)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:43:03 -0600
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: 
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
	
Message-ID: <20061231094303.1a66916f@steve.homeip.net>

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:49:50 +0200
Amichai Rotman wrote:

> That "cd-rom type" is the U3 fs containing pre-loaded apps to be used
> anywhere you plug it in. It is actually supposed to be like this. If
> you don't like it - you should've purchased another model....
> 
> The reason it's impossible to delete the apps is because they are
> hard coded to the hardware and the files copied are the ones it needs
> as read / write access....
> 
> Amichai.

yeah, too bad I couldn't like try it out at the store huh?  Otherwise I
would have never suspected that something I buy like that has that
"feature" if you want to call it that.

I can live with it.



From ampster40 at comcast.net  Sun Dec 31 15:46:43 2006
From: ampster40 at comcast.net (Steve Jeppesen)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:46:43 -0600
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: 
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
	
Message-ID: <20061231094643.1fcbcb8b@steve.homeip.net>

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:49:50 +0200
Amichai Rotman wrote:

> That "cd-rom type" is the U3 fs containing pre-loaded apps to be used
> anywhere you plug it in. It is actually supposed to be like this. If
> you don't like it - you should've purchased another model....

and besides, if somebody can put linux on xbox or re-do the linux system
on a linksys router - then someday somebody will figure out a way to
wipe the fs off those flash drives (hopefully) and give you full control
over the entire storage capability.



From Gilles at Gravier.org  Sun Dec 31 15:58:05 2006
From: Gilles at Gravier.org (Gilles Gravier)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:58:05 +0100
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost>
	<45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>

Norman,

What application are you trying to run? Normally, using the sun-java5-* 
packages... you should be able to run anything that is built for the 
standard Java runtime environment. If this is a publicly available 
application, can you point me to the place to download it, that I may 
test it? Maybe your application is a game that needs Java OpenGL 
support? Or additional graphical classes?

As a reference, in order to have a good JRE support, you should have the 
following packages installed at minimum :

sun-java5-bin
sun-java5-fonts
sun-java5-jre
sun-java5-plugin

(Note that fonts might not be absolutely necessary depending on what you 
are running).

I recommend using Synaptic Package Manager to install them.

If you want to be able to compile Java applications, throw in 
"sun-java5-jdk" as well.

Once you have installed the packages, remember to run the proper command 
to enable them :

sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun

Which will automagically build the proper symlinks to enable that newly 
installed runtime. It will generate a whole lot of messages... if you 
have not installed JDK, the first half of them will be "jdk alternatives 
does not exist"... which is not a problem...

Once this is done, run :

java -version

In order to verify which version of Java you are running... it should 
say "java version "1.5.0_08" or something very close.

As a test example, download AppGate's MindTerm (SSH terminal written 
100% in Java and using a nice, but not too complex set of features) :

wget 
http://www.appgate.com/products/80_MindTerm/110_MindTerm_Download/mindterm_3.0.1-bin.zip
unzip mindterm_3.0.1-bin.zip
cd mindterm_3.0.1-bin
java -jar mindterm.jar

If, after, maybe, a couple of warning diagnostic lines in your terminal 
window, and a few popups to click, you get a nice window saying "appGATE 
MindTerm" then your Java environment is properly set and you should have 
no more problems.

Note: As a Sun person, I should write Java(TM) everywhere... but what 
the heck. :) The aim is to help you get the stuff running nicely.

Tell us how it goes!

Gilles.

norman wrote:
> < snip >
>
>   
>>> You are very fortunate in that you know what you are doing. I have no
>>> real idea on how to tweak anything thus, my instinct is to go for the
>>> easiest for me to do. I know how to type instructions into a terminal
>>> and that's as far as my experience goes.
>>>       
>> Do you need the latest java ? If not, there are packages from the
>> multiverse repository you can install: -
>>
>> sun-java5-bin    <-- this will pull in the runtime as a dependency
>>     
>
> The application I want to run specifies J2SE JRE. I have tried
> sun-java5.bin but the application does not fully run. For example the
> various windows appear and seem to work except that images needed do not
> show.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> Norman
>
>
>   

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From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 16:14:47 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:14:47 -0500
Subject: Firefoxquestions
Message-ID: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>

I'm building Kubuntu machines to replace my, and my wife's workstations.
The old machines have an older version of Debian with Gnome 1.4. We are
using Galeon 1.x as our browsers.

Looks like the choice today is Firefox. So, I'm trying to figure out how to
provide 3 functions provided by the older Galeon, that I can't seem to find
workalikes in Firefox.

a) Control O brings up an URL input window (empty) in the center of the
browser. We find this much more convenient that dealing with the URL input
bar at the top of the browser.

b) Sessions an be saved and restored (easily from the FILE menu). Sessions
are collections of sites opened in multiple tabs.

c) Adjustments to font size (plus and minus) are stored on a per page
basis. Thus I can have (for example) Slashdot displayed with the font size
bumped up a couple of points, and when I return to it, it will default to
the larger size.

Can anyone suggest workarounds for these in Firefox?

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 16:20:34 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:20:34 -0500
Subject: Help, frontends cannot connect to backend
Message-ID: <20061231162034.GB31487@teddy.fas.com>

Aparently this was too big to ge fowarded to the list, so I've trimed the
logs a bit.

I've been ffighting this for 2 1/2 days now, so I'd REALLY appreciate ANY
sugestions.

-----

I'm trying to rebuild my Myth infrastruccture this weekend. Historically,
I've use KnoppMyth, but I talked mysellf into using Ubuntu this time, as
I'm moving to Ubuntu workstations, and it seemed that would make keeping
the versions on the frontends/backend in synch easier.

I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 X86, and I'v mostly gotten teh backend working. It's
frontend can connect finw. I've got (at the moment) 3 frontends. All of
these (inclusing  one just built from scratch using the Howto on the Ubuntu
Help pages), can connect to the MySQL database, just fine. But, they cannot
seem to connect to the myth backend itslef. nmap shows, what I beleive are
the correct, ports open on the backend "panda":

Starting Nmap 4.10 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-12-31 10:05
EST
Interesting ports on panda.fas.com (205.159.77.232):
Not shown: 1674 closed ports
PORT     STATE SERVICE
22/tcp   open  ssh
80/tcp   open  http
3306/tcp open  mysql
6543/tcp open  mythtv
6544/tcp open  mythtv
MAC Address: 00:14:6C:81:E3:9C (Netgear)
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X|2.6.X
OS details: Linux 2.4.0 - 2.5.20, Linux 2.4.7 - 2.6.11

Yet when I do a tcpdump on the new frontend, after starting the frontend,
and trying to "Watch V", I don't see any evidence of it trying to originate
traffic for the Myth backend. I _do_ see the MySQL traffic:


09:43:14.965352 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: S 1793549980:1793549980(0) win 5840 
09:43:14.965432 IP panda.fas.com.mysql > boo-boo.fas.com.43901: S 466253708:466253708(0) ack 1793549981 win 5792 
09:43:14.965576 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: . ack 1 win 1460 
09:43:14.966885 IP panda.fas.com.mysql > boo-boo.fas.com.43901: P 1:71(70) ack 1 win 1448 
.
.
.

09:43:28.267115 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: P 44971:45058(87) ack 44901 win 1728 
09:43:28.267538 IP panda.fas.com.mysql > boo-boo.fas.com.43901: P 44901:44985(84) ack 45058 win 1448 
09:43:28.268693 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: P 45058:45149(91) ack 44985 win 1728 
09:43:28.269216 IP panda.fas.com.mysql > boo-boo.fas.com.43901: P 44985:45069(84) ack 45149 win 1448 
09:43:28.269655 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: P 45149:45235(86) ack 45069 win 1728 
09:43:28.270043 IP panda.fas.com.mysql > boo-boo.fas.com.43901: P 45069:45153(84) ack 45235 win 1448 
09:43:28.300755 IP boo-boo.fas.com.43901 > panda.fas.com.mysql: . ack 45153 win 1728 

So, I suppose the first question is, How does the frontend know the
namee/addeess of the Myth backend to atempt to connect to? Is it stored in
the database (makes sense that it would be, since the backend connects
directly to that).

What other things can I check to try to resolve this issue?

Thanks fro any help.

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From dubmccormick at wvmcc.com  Sun Dec 31 17:07:57 2006
From: dubmccormick at wvmcc.com (David McCormick)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:07:57 -0500
Subject: Add Remove Applications
In-Reply-To: <1167576620.11466.4.camel@ams-laptop>
References: <4597C1EE.2040008@wvmcc.com> <1167576620.11466.4.camel@ams-laptop>
Message-ID: <4597EE6D.1080901@wvmcc.com>

Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> I believe in Edgy it is removed, but all it did was open Synaptic
> Package Manager program found under SYSTEM --> ADMINISTRATION right?
> Just try Synaptic and see if you can find the compiler you're looking
> for.  You may need to add additional "channels" such as Community
> Maintained, use the "Software Sources" program under the same menu to
> find it.  
>
> On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 08:58 -0500, David McCormick wrote:
>   
>> Has the advanced feature of the add/remove program been removed from 
>> Edgy? I have been tring to install several programs that need a c 
>> compiler and they wont compile with the KDE C/C++ that I installed on 
>> initial installation. In Dapper I just installed the Gnome compiler by 
>> going to the advanced window and installing it. It seems strange to me 
>> that using the Gnome flavor of Ubuntu that the only compiler offered is 
>> the KDE one.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>     
>
>   

Thanks that did it I just forgot where to look.


Dave




From pd.yates at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 17:08:52 2006
From: pd.yates at gmail.com (Peter Yates)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:08:52 +0000
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>

Hi Dennis,

I think the closest thing in Firefox to the ctrl+o behaviour in Galeon
is ctrl+l (or f6) which takes you straight to your URL input at the top
and highlights the contents so you can type over them.

If you go to the firefox extensions/addons page and search for 'Session
Manager' both 'Session Manager' and 'Tab Mix Plus' are returned; I think
either of these will cover your needs.

As for c) I'm afraid I don't know the ideal solution, but if you go into
preferences, click content, then advanced and untick 'Allow pages to
choose their own fonts..', this should make all pages use the font (and
size) you specify.  It may be a short-term solution (some pages may look
weird) but things should be more readable.

If you don't find the solution to the problems theres nothing to stop
you from using Galeon (2.02 is in the Ubuntu repos).  Or of course
Konqueror, Epiphany or Opera.

Peter


On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 11:14 -0500, stan wrote:
> I'm building Kubuntu machines to replace my, and my wife's workstations.
> The old machines have an older version of Debian with Gnome 1.4. We are
> using Galeon 1.x as our browsers.
> 
> Looks like the choice today is Firefox. So, I'm trying to figure out how to
> provide 3 functions provided by the older Galeon, that I can't seem to find
> workalikes in Firefox.
> 
> a) Control O brings up an URL input window (empty) in the center of the
> browser. We find this much more convenient that dealing with the URL input
> bar at the top of the browser.
> 
> b) Sessions an be saved and restored (easily from the FILE menu). Sessions
> are collections of sites opened in multiple tabs.
> 
> c) Adjustments to font size (plus and minus) are stored on a per page
> basis. Thus I can have (for example) Slashdot displayed with the font size
> bumped up a couple of points, and when I return to it, it will default to
> the larger size.
> 
> Can anyone suggest workarounds for these in Firefox?
> 
> -- 
> Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
> (Dennis Ritchie)
> 




From norman at littletank.org  Sun Dec 31 17:22:57 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:22:57 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>  <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <1167585777.4890.51.camel@localhost>

On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:58 +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> Norman,
> 
> What application are you trying to run? Normally, using the sun-java5-* 
> packages... you should be able to run anything that is built for the 
> standard Java runtime environment. If this is a publicly available 
> application, can you point me to the place to download it, that I may 
> test it? Maybe your application is a game that needs Java OpenGL 
> support? Or additional graphical classes?

The application is AstroStack. There is a free trial available at 
ww.astrostack.com/ which is what I am trying to trial.

Thanks for the other information I will study it.

Norman





From markjohanson at ureach.com  Sun Dec 31 17:41:14 2006
From: markjohanson at ureach.com (Mark Johanson)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:41:14 -0500
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
Message-ID: <200612311741.MAA20603@www21.ureach.com>

I have a couple Thumbdrives that I use to transfer/store
information. What I use on the for security is TrueCrypt -
http://www.truecrypt.org/ - to store the information. Here is a
snippet from the site of its main features:

*Creates a virtual encrypted disk within a file and mounts it as
a real disk. 

*Encrypts an entire hard disk partition or a storage device such
as USB flash drive.

*Encryption is automatic, real-time (on-the-fly) and
transparent.

*Provides two levels of plausible deniability, in case an
adversary forces you to reveal the password:
 1) Hidden volume (steganography – more information may be found
here).
 2) No TrueCrypt volume can be identified (volumes cannot be
distinguished from random data).

*Encryption algorithms: AES-256, Blowfish (448-bit key), CAST5,
Serpent, Triple DES, and Twofish. Mode of operation: LRW  (CBC
supported as legacy).

I've never had a problem using it on any of my Ubuntu boxes, or
my work *windoze* system.



From mareich49 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 31 17:46:12 2006
From: mareich49 at yahoo.com (Michael Reich)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:46:12 -0600
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4597F764.6000805@yahoo.com>

That's the U3 drive "feature."  You bought a stick that dedicates some 
of the storage space to a hidden partition with the U3 "operating 
system" that's needed to run the U3 applications.  You cannot delete 
this partition directly (supposedly U3 has a tool to do this, but it 
didn't work for me).  If you have no intention of using the U3 
applications, buying a U3 memory stick is not a good idea.  Read the 
fine print on the packaging to see if the memory stick you're 
considering is U3 or not.  FWIW, I think U3 is a waste of time and 
resources for most people, who simply want to use the memory stick to 
store files.  I returned the one I bought to Office Max and got a 
"normal" USB memory stick.

On 12/31/2006 ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:28:05 -0600
> From: Steve Jeppesen 
> Subject: Re: USB Stick with Password under Linux
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20061231062805.2c174dfb at steve.homeip.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0300
> OOzy Pal wrote:
>
>   
>> > Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
>> > Linux and Windows?
>> > 
>>     
>
> I just purchased a Kingston U3 DataTraveler 1 gig this past weekend and
> noticed it had a password/security function built into it - however I
> am unable to test it in either O.S. right now as it is at my place of
> business - and I'm not!
>
> http://www.kingston.com/flash/datatraveler_home.asp
>
> That link provides a listing of their various USB flashdrives, and the
> top one is listed as "Kingston DataTraveler Secure Privacy
> NEW! DataTraveler Secure - Privacy Edition " - maybe that would work as
> well?
>
> the datatraveler I purchased has a couple of annoyances though.
>
> When you plug it in, it mounts two drives, one "cd-rom" type and
> one for your data.  That's for M$ and Linux. I can live with that.
>
> The "cd-rom" mount doesn't allow you to delete anything, like a normal
> cd-rom.  And according to the instructions, it comes with preloaded
> "apps" on the data mount that can be deleted if desired.
>
> I found you can delete those apps on the data mount, but every time you
> plug that sucker back in, either in M$ or Linux, it copies three files
> back over from the cdrom mount.  I find that to be rather suspicious
> behavior myself and don't like it.
>
> Other than that - it's really fast.
>
> Hope this gets you pointed in a direction at least.
>
> Steve




From norman at littletank.org  Sun Dec 31 17:53:03 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:53:03 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>  <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <1167587583.4890.63.camel@localhost>

Gilles

< snip >

> Once you have installed the packages, remember to run the proper command 
> to enable them :

I carried out your instructions and things happened as you said they
would. I then tried to run Astrostack from the terminal, the application
started and I got the following:-

norman at gruber:~$ java -Xmx256m -jar AstroStack3le.jar
java.io.FileNotFoundException: default.apf (No such file or directory)
-PI:true-
1.5.0_08
Screen size       :java.awt.Dimension[width=1280,height=1024]
Screen resolution :95
L&F: javax.swing.UIManager$LookAndFeelInfo[Metal
javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel]
L&F: javax.swing.UIManager$LookAndFeelInfo[CDE/Motif
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.motif.MotifLookAndFeel]
L&F: javax.swing.UIManager$LookAndFeelInfo[GTK+
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel]
norman at gruber:~$ 

I used this application some time ago and, from what I can remember,
when files are loaded an image should appear in the top left hand panel.
This does not happen.

Norman 







> 
> As a test example, download AppGate's MindTerm (SSH terminal written 
> 100% in Java and using a nice, but not too complex set of features) :
> 
> wget 
> http://www.appgate.com/products/80_MindTerm/110_MindTerm_Download/mindterm_3.0.1-bin.zip
> unzip mindterm_3.0.1-bin.zip
> cd mindterm_3.0.1-bin
> java -jar mindterm.jar
> 
> If, after, maybe, a couple of warning diagnostic lines in your terminal 
> window, and a few popups to click, you get a nice window saying "appGATE 
> MindTerm" then your Java environment is properly set and you should have 
> no more problems.
> 
> Note: As a Sun person, I should write Java(TM) everywhere... but what 
> the heck. :) The aim is to help you get the stuff running nicely.
> 
> Tell us how it goes!
> 
> Gilles.
> 
> norman wrote:
> > < snip >
> >
> >   
> >>> You are very fortunate in that you know what you are doing. I have no
> >>> real idea on how to tweak anything thus, my instinct is to go for the
> >>> easiest for me to do. I know how to type instructions into a terminal
> >>> and that's as far as my experience goes.
> >>>       
> >> Do you need the latest java ? If not, there are packages from the
> >> multiverse repository you can install: -
> >>
> >> sun-java5-bin    <-- this will pull in the runtime as a dependency
> >>     
> >
> > The application I want to run specifies J2SE JRE. I have tried
> > sun-java5.bin but the application does not fully run. For example the
> > various windows appear and seem to work except that images needed do not
> > show.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >   
> 




From norman at littletank.org  Sun Dec 31 18:07:29 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:07:29 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>  <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
Message-ID: <1167588449.4890.69.camel@localhost>

Gilles 

< big snip >

> If, after, maybe, a couple of warning diagnostic lines in your terminal 
> window, and a few popups to click, you get a nice window saying "appGATE 
> MindTerm" then your Java environment is properly set and you should have 
> no more problems.

> Note: As a Sun person, I should write Java(TM) everywhere... but what 
> the heck. :) The aim is to help you get the stuff running nicely.
> 
> Tell us how it goes!

The window appeared without any real problem.

Norman




From norman at littletank.org  Sun Dec 31 18:08:52 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:08:52 +0000
Subject: java 2RE
In-Reply-To: <1167585777.4890.51.camel@localhost>
References: <1167419628.4800.29.camel@localhost>
	<20061230063234.39728e8e.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167470615.4800.50.camel@localhost> <45963392.5020404@Gravier.org>
	<1167473210.4800.57.camel@localhost>
	<20061230235502.a68ecb58.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
	<1167485925.4809.15.camel@localhost>  <4597DE0D.8080704@Gravier.org>
	<1167585777.4890.51.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1167588532.4890.71.camel@localhost>

Sorry, should be www.astrostack.com


Norman




From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sun Dec 31 18:26:51 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:26:51 -0500
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
In-Reply-To: <20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
Message-ID: <20061231132651.49d9a0d5@chisel>

Steve Jeppesen wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0300
> OOzy Pal wrote:
> 
> > Can some one recommend a USB stick that I can password protect under
> > Linux and Windows?
> > 
> 
> I just purchased a Kingston U3 DataTraveler 1 gig this past weekend
> and noticed it had a password/security function built into it -
> however I am unable to test it in either O.S. right now as it is at
> my place of business - and I'm not!
> 
> http://www.kingston.com/flash/datatraveler_home.asp

According to their white paper the encryption functions are
windows-only. The dual-mode DTS will work as a plain vanilla USB thumb
drive as long as you have a public "zone" set up, and the DTSP won't
work at all under Linux. To be precise the little compatibility table
says "Not Supported".

I'd say that and fact it's hardware encryption means this is because
the management/authentication program is windows only. You *might* get
wine or such to run it, but at that point you're screwing around so
much in my opinion that you're way better off using another thumb drive
and Truecrypt. It's almost certainly cheaper, and you can move the drive
between Win/*nix boxes as long as Truecrypt is installed on the box
(requires admin privledges which leaves some people out in the cold at
work, school, etc...)

Note: Truecrypt also has a "treveler mode", but I'm not familiar with
it so I don't know if it has the same limitations as the DTS/DTSP
drives above. I believe it also requires admin privledges to load its
driver on a host machine, so buyer be ware.

> When you plug it in, it mounts two drives, one "cd-rom" type and
> one for your data.  That's for M$ and Linux. I can live with that.
> 
> The "cd-rom" mount doesn't allow you to delete anything, like a normal
> cd-rom.  And according to the instructions, it comes with preloaded
> "apps" on the data mount that can be deleted if desired.

This is probably because of some partitioning scheme used to hold the
authentication application(s) and the data itself. Wild guess here, but
the "CD-ROM" mount is probably read-only because of some default
data-protecting NTFS mount. The "data" area of the drive is likely
formatted fat32 so it's mounts read/write.

-- 
     _?_      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 18:27:20 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:27:20 -0500
Subject: TinyURL for Firefox 2?
Message-ID: <20061231182720.GA3044@teddy.fas.com>

I'm beginging to wonder if I should be running Firefox 2.x (which is what
gets installed on 6.10) or not. So fare all of the extensions that I wanted
to use have not been rewriten for 2.0 :-(

Has anyone managed to add TinURL to the toolbar of Firefox 2.0?

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From guillermo.fedora at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 18:34:57 2006
From: guillermo.fedora at gmail.com (Guillermo Garron)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:34:57 -0400
Subject: Installing xubuntu 606
In-Reply-To: <3257571.1849361167578251128.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>
References: <3257571.1849361167578251128.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>
Message-ID: <865773ce0612311034n22b2f806o9fc5d983a41a32e8@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/31/06, napa at it-np.de  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> my system is currently running with ubuntu 5.10.
>
> I'm trying to upgrade to xubuntu 606 because the machine ist to small for gnome. The download of the file xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso is burned on  cd-rom.
>
> Upgrade via the upgrade manager does not work as it does not recognize the disk.
>
> So I tried a complete new installation by rebooting with the disk inserted. But the the system (IBM Aptiva Intel Pentium III, 256 MB, 10GB HD, Floppy Drive, CD-ROM) does not boot the CD. It always boots the Version 5.10. Copying the sbm.bin file to the
> floppy disk did not work as well (the system does not recognize the floppy drive. So i mounted it manually by using sudo an copied it the same way)
>
> However rebooting the System with a Slackware iso-image works.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> 1) Has the the iso-image to be changed before burning it to disk?
> 2) How can the floppy drive used properly under ubuntu?
> 3) Has the BIOS to be changed (but why does Slackware boot without change)?
> 4) Is there any shortut for installing and using xfce under 5.10
hi,

Did you check your boot CD Xubuntu on another PC? are you sure it is OK?
>
> Best wishes for the next year.
Thanks! the same to you.

Guillermo Garron
"Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are."
(Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06)
http://www.go2linux.org



From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 18:36:12 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:36:12 -0500
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <20061231183612.GB3044@teddy.fas.com>

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:08:52PM +0000, Peter Yates wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> I think the closest thing in Firefox to the ctrl+o behaviour in Galeon
> is ctrl+l (or f6) which takes you straight to your URL input at the top
> and highlights the contents so you can type over them.

Yes, I've seen that. A poor imitation IMHO. Bu it's the best I can find for
that.

> 
> If you go to the firefox extensions/addons page and search for 'Session
> Manager' both 'Session Manager' and 'Tab Mix Plus' are returned; I think
> either of these will cover your needs.

Neither of these seesm to be compatible with Firfox 2.x, which is what gets
installed on 6.10. Should I "downgrade" to Firfox 1.x? Is this possible
within the Ubuntu package management system?

> 
> As for c) I'm afraid I don't know the ideal solution, but if you go into
> preferences, click content, then advanced and untick 'Allow pages to
> choose their own fonts..', this should make all pages use the font (and
> size) you specify.  It may be a short-term solution (some pages may look
> weird) but things should be more readable.

Yes, but the "mdifications" definately ned to be on a per page, or per site
bassis. SpeedTV uses fonts that are WAY to small read, they need scaleing
to 160-170%. Most other sites are useless with this much upscaleing :-(

> 
> If you don't find the solution to the problems theres nothing to stop
> you from using Galeon (2.02 is in the Ubuntu repos).  Or of course
> Konqueror, Epiphany or Opera.

I may give Galeon 2.x a try. They droped the CTRL o functioanlity, when
they redid the codebase for 2x, and I could not convince ayone on the
development team to put it back, so I never upgraded. I have no idea if the
other 2 "key" features mad the transistion or not. Probably should just
apt-get it, and try. I tried Konqueror, it's OK, but has some issues for
me. The bigest one is I like to type in just enough of teh URL to let
tthe browser figure it out. This breaks badly on Konqueror, since it wants
to look on the local disk alao :-(. I have not tried Epiphany. I loaded
Opera using Automatix, but that created problems with upgrades, s I delted
it before I even tried it.

Thanks for the sugestions..
-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From jbloss at tampabay.rr.com  Sun Dec 31 18:42:41 2006
From: jbloss at tampabay.rr.com (Jeffrey F. Bloss)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:42:41 -0500
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <20061231134241.07e998f4@chisel>

Peter Yates wrote:

> As for c) I'm afraid I don't know the ideal solution, but if you go
> into preferences, click content, then advanced and untick 'Allow
> pages to choose their own fonts..', this should make all pages use
> the font (and size) you specify.  It may be a short-term solution
> (some pages may look weird) but things should be more readable.

I think, but I'm not sure, that Firefox is able to set per-site
preferences to a specific CSS style sheet. It would take some effort to
set up but with half a dozen or so style sheets I'd imagine you could
cover all the bases.

> If you don't find the solution to the problems theres nothing to stop
> you from using Galeon (2.02 is in the Ubuntu repos).  Or of course
> Konqueror, Epiphany or Opera.

I'll log another vote for my favorite browser... Opera. It will handle
a) and b) right out of the box, and a quick test tells me that at least
in saved sessions the "zoom level" of individual pages is saved. It
also allows per-site style sheets which are loaded automagically when
the site is accessed normally.

-- 
     _?_      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
    (o o)         Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
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From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Sun Dec 31 18:49:58 2006
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:49:58 +0000
Subject: TinyURL for Firefox 2?
In-Reply-To: <20061231182720.GA3044@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231182720.GA3044@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <45980656.1020306@googlemail.com>

stan wrote:
> I'm beginging to wonder if I should be running Firefox 2.x (which is what
> gets installed on 6.10) or not. So fare all of the extensions that I wanted
> to use have not been rewriten for 2.0 :-(
> 
> Has anyone managed to add TinURL to the toolbar of Firefox 2.0?
> 
No problem at all, of the 40 extensions I had on 1.5 only 4 didn't work 
straight away and I just changed the max version setting and they now work.


SteVe



From haniganwork at earthlik.net  Sun Dec 31 19:05:35 2006
From: haniganwork at earthlik.net (Linda Hanigan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:05:35 -0600
Subject: Black & White Printing
In-Reply-To: <4596EA9A.4040509@weblore.com>
References: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com> <1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>
	<4596EA9A.4040509@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <1167591936.18721.4.camel@star>

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 16:39 -0600, Michael Satterwhite wrote:

> >> Does anyone know a simple way to tell CUPS to render the document in
> >> black and white?
> > 
> > Printing from Openoffice, for example:
> > 
> > File --> Print...
> > In the print dialog box, click Properties..., then click label Device,
> > and you can change Printout mode or Resolution, Quality, Ink type
> 
> That's great when using OpenOffice, but I don't see those options in
> other programs such as gpdf. Sometimes I need to print with programs
> other than ooO.
> 

Does anyone know if you can still just set it up as a separate printer
in CUPS. I used to have a printer that was set up twice once to print
normal once to print duplex. If it still is possible in the current
version of CUPS that would be a simple solution.
                         Linda




From norman at littletank.org  Sun Dec 31 19:12:28 2006
From: norman at littletank.org (norman)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:12:28 +0000
Subject: Black & White Printing
In-Reply-To: <1167591936.18721.4.camel@star>
References: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com> <1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>
	<4596EA9A.4040509@weblore.com>  <1167591936.18721.4.camel@star>
Message-ID: <1167592348.4890.74.camel@localhost>


> Does anyone know if you can still just set it up as a separate printer
> in CUPS. I used to have a printer that was set up twice once to print
> normal once to print duplex. If it still is possible in the current
> version of CUPS that would be a simple solution.
>                          
what a good idea, why don't you try it and let us know the result?

Norman




From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Sun Dec 31 19:26:14 2006
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:26:14 +0000
Subject: Black & White Printing
In-Reply-To: <1167591936.18721.4.camel@star>
References: <4596CA5A.3040805@weblore.com>
	<1167516061.19702.4.camel@zeus>	<4596EA9A.4040509@weblore.com>
	<1167591936.18721.4.camel@star>
Message-ID: <45980ED6.3020704@googlemail.com>

Linda Hanigan wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 16:39 -0600, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> 
>>>> Does anyone know a simple way to tell CUPS to render the 
>>>> document in black and white?
>>> Printing from Openoffice, for example:
>>> 
>>> File --> Print... In the print dialog box, click Properties..., 
>>> then click label Device, and you can change Printout mode or 
>>> Resolution, Quality, Ink type
>> That's great when using OpenOffice, but I don't see those options 
>> in other programs such as gpdf. Sometimes I need to print with 
>> programs other than ooO.
>> 
> 
> Does anyone know if you can still just set it up as a separate 
> printer in CUPS. I used to have a printer that was set up twice once 
> to print normal once to print duplex. If it still is possible in the 
> current version of CUPS that would be a simple solution. Linda
> 
That's what I have, I found the suggestion on a WEB site somewhere.
I've got three different 'printers';  BW Draft; BW Quality & Colour Quality.

Happy New Year
SteVe




From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com  Sun Dec 31 20:16:00 2006
From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:16:00 -0600
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <20061231183612.GB3044@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
	<20061231183612.GB3044@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <20061231141600.47df0b7c@WizardsTower>

stan   said:
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:08:52PM +0000, Peter Yates wrote:
> > Hi Dennis,
> > 
> > I think the closest thing in Firefox to the ctrl+o behaviour in
> > Galeon is ctrl+l (or f6) which takes you straight to your URL input
> > at the top and highlights the contents so you can type over them.  
> 
> Yes, I've seen that. A poor imitation IMHO. Bu it's the best I can
> find for that.

Alternatively you could use the Gnome function,  to bring up a
'Run Application' box in the middle of the screen and then type the URL
into that. It should open a new tab in FF.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
When Windows are opened the bugs come in.
	Winduhs



From cyber_wizard at mindspring.com  Sun Dec 31 20:17:51 2006
From: cyber_wizard at mindspring.com (Cybe R. Wizard)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:17:51 -0600
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <20061231183612.GB3044@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu>
	<20061231183612.GB3044@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <20061231141751.051b4b13@WizardsTower>

stan   said:
> > If you go to the firefox extensions/addons page and search for
> > 'Session Manager' both 'Session Manager' and 'Tab Mix Plus' are
> > returned; I think either of these will cover your needs.  
> 
> Neither of these seesm to be compatible with Firfox 2.x, which is
> what gets installed on 6.10. Should I "downgrade" to Firfox 1.x? Is
> this possible within the Ubuntu package management system?

A crude workaround for the saved session is to force-kill FF.  When
re-opened it will ask you about opening the saved session.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
When Windows are opened the bugs come in.
	Winduhs



From dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at  Sun Dec 31 21:39:25 2006
From: dieter.schicker at uni-graz.at (Dieter Schicker)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:39:25 +0100
Subject: xserver question
In-Reply-To: <4597B701.8000601@uni-graz.at>
References: <4597B701.8000601@uni-graz.at>
Message-ID: <45982E0D.9030809@uni-graz.at>

Hi,

just in case someone is interested: I found the solution to my problem
on http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Separate_x-screens_on_Monitor_and_TV .

Dieter

Dieter Schicker wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a question concerning xorg-xserver and twinview mode (crt and
> tv) on an nvidia gforce 6200.
> 
> Up to now I have the following configuration:
> 
> xorg.conf:
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 
>     Identifier     "Default Screen"
>     Device         "NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache]"
>     Monitor        "ECOMO 750"
>     DefaultDepth    24
> 
>     Option          "TwinView"
>     Option          "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
>     Option          "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, TV"
>     Option          "HorizSync" "CRT-0: 30-121; TV-0: 30-50"
>     Option          "VertRefresh" "CRT-0: 50-160; TV-0: 60"
>     Option          "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
>     Option          "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
>     Option          "MetaModes" "CRT-0: 1600x1200, TV-0: 800x600; CRT-0:
> 1280x1024, TV-0: 800x600;"
>     Option          "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
>     Option          "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
> 
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Depth       24
>         Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
>     EndSubSection
> 
> 
> In order to play a video on the tv set I now have to call mplayer in the
> following way:
> 
> mplayer -xineramascreen 0 -stop-xscreensaver -ontop -geometry 1600:0 \
>   -noborder -autosync 1 -x 790 -y 570 "$1"
> 
> Works ok. But I want to know if the following situation is possible:
> 
> I want to start a separate xserver for the TV set only when I need it
> (and of course to be able to switch it off accordingly). The important
> thing is that this xserver _may not_ influence my xserver for the crt.
> 
> Any help is highly appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> Dieter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Dieter Schicker
Server- und Netzwerkadministration, Applikationsentwicklung, Lehre
Institut für Informationsverarbeitung in den Geisteswissenschaften
Karl-Franzens-Universität Graz
Merangasse 70
A-8020 Graz
Tel.: ++43(0)316-380-8012
http://www-gewi.uni-graz.at/inig/
--
Student of Computer Science
Graz University of Technology
schicker at student.tugraz.at




From bob at nscomputing.com.au  Sun Dec 31 22:20:17 2006
From: bob at nscomputing.com.au (Slobodan)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 09:20:17 +1100
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <70ca7a400612311420m37e4311fy323682e493e01bdc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dennis,

For c) please try the Firefox extension NoSquint ().
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From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com  Sun Dec 31 22:30:24 2006
From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:30:24 +0000
Subject: Windows refugee questions...
In-Reply-To: <459518A1.30706@verizon.net>
References: <4593D15C.3020705@verizon.net>		<4594457D.1060602@verizon.net>	<3c5484cf0612281438r66190c57l525f33c15ceb7bca@mail.gmail.com>	<459483C4.1080102@verizon.net>
	 <459518A1.30706@verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

David B Teague wrote:
> ac wrote:
>> David B Teague wrote:
>>   
>> 
>> Isn't Verizon a web mail, online email account? This suggests that you 
>> can access your email from any machine anywhere on the internet, using 
>> a web browser (such as firefox etc etc) - is this true?
>>
>> If so then it is likely that the process for email will be via your 
>> browser of choice and its facilities. If say firefox works for you in 
>> windows, it will do the same in linux for example. Your mail at 
>> verizon will remain on their machines and will not be affected by your 
>> machine OS.
>>   
> Verizon provides a "web mail" interface that is the incredibly poor. It 
> makes Unix/Linux command line "mail" program look good. I use it ONLY 
> when I am out of town for long enough to need to delete some messages 
> before I return. 

Understood. this is your verizon webmail option.

>I can also use Thunderbird or Outlook Express etc to 
> fetch mail to my local machine. (Is this the POP protocol?)

Yes this is pop3 (post office protocol). POP3 is a method of you not 
being on line continuously but when you are online, you prompt the pop 
mailbox to send your mail to you when you want it.

> That isn't 
> an option from a machine booted from a read-only CD. 

ok. (I think it actually can be, but it would take a fair amount of 
setting up!)

>>> I was fretting because in the distant past, when network access was via 
>>> NIC, setup always wanted an IP number.
>>>     
>>
>> The NIC will be automatically recognised by ubuntu (most distros in 
>> fact nowadays!) and during both live CD use and the default install 
>> process, DHCP will be used without any input from you at all. Just 
>> have the machine and network normally connected during install etc. If 
>> in the unusual case of dhcp not working I guess more manual 
>> configuration would be needed. So the NIC will be configured 
>> automatically with a local IP number via dhcp. BTW it is usual mostly 
>> for the router device to want to be 192.168.1.1 and the PC to be 
>> allocated another IP such as 192.168.1.5 say. This is not a firm 
>> standard but sort of a likely convention.
>>
>>   
> Ah Sorry. I checked again; you are of course right about the IP numbers..
>>> 
>>>     

> So I can expect it to "just work".
yes, should do ok

> 
>> 
>>   
>>
>> (see my comments above about web mail?) I wonder if I have fully 
>> understood you here. Do you also use POP3 mail collection from a 
>> provider also? Verizon?
>>   
> 
> I'm not sure what you are asking. Here is my setup:
> 
> All I have is POP (remove messages from the server as they are downloaded)

understood.

> I have Verizon ADSL, and I receive email from their mail server. 

(via pop)

>I also 
> receive mail from another provider, Mountain Area Information Network, 
> MAIN.net. Thunderbird is set so that email is automatically downloaded 
> from each provider and Thunderbird will send through either provider.


It sounds like two pop accounts. ok.
It is usual that the adsl connection provider (verizon) actually 
provides the transport for your outgoing mail (Outgoing server) (SMTP, 
small mail transport protocol I think). This is because they have a 
guarantee of your identity - you are connected hardwired. The other 
mail provider is unlikely to accept your outgoing mail unless you have 
an account with a password to verify yourself - easily possible but a 
bit unusual (I have one of these myself for mobile travel pop use).

> 
>>> then I'll move email to the Linux side. I 
>>> will have more questions about moving email with Thunderbird at that time.
>>>     
>>
>> I mostly use only thunderbird  (TB) for email. In my escape phase 
>> towards linux I first used TB on windows (and later also on linux with 
>> the linux TB settings to not delete the mail at the server - read mail 
>> first on linux, then read and delete using the usual approach in windows).
>>   

> This sounds like something I need to do. How do I set up Thunderbird so 
> it fetches messages but doesn't remove the messages from the server?

(for thunderbirds A and B)

for thunderbird (A)
[Tools>] Account settings>Server settings> UNcheck Leave mail on server
(removes mail)

for thunderbird (B)
[Tools>] Account settings>Server settings> check Leave mail on server

(make sure to use B before A!)

> 
>> When I finally stopped using windows I had to copy the files (simple 
>> copy) from windows to linux. I was shocked by the simplicity. 
>> Directories had to chosen of course and a couple of files needed 
>> special care for the directory, but it was simple.
>>   

> Aren't there are some details that are glossed over here? I have done 
> this under Windows when I replaced a hard disk.  Isn't there is 
> something you have to do in Thunderbird to actually _see_ the new 
> folder? What is it? I recall stuff like having to create a folder with 
> the same name in  the new Thunderbird installation as it had in the old 
> installation, then overwrite the new file with the old file. I recall 
> having to delete the index file. Otherwise I can't see the folder in 
> Thunderbird.

I think for either windows or linux I simply had a TB install  (new, 
empty TBird) then I closed TB. I copied the files into their places, 
(profile Default 123abc etc) and started TB again.

there will be useful confirmation via google anyway.

hth
-- 
ac




From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 22:53:33 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:53:33 -0500
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <20061231134241.07e998f4@chisel>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<1167584932.4775.19.camel@ubuntu> <20061231134241.07e998f4@chisel>
Message-ID: <20061231225333.GD9500@teddy.fas.com>

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 01:42:41PM -0500, Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
> Peter Yates wrote:
> 
> > As for c) I'm afraid I don't know the ideal solution, but if you go
> > into preferences, click content, then advanced and untick 'Allow
> > pages to choose their own fonts..', this should make all pages use
> > the font (and size) you specify.  It may be a short-term solution
> > (some pages may look weird) but things should be more readable.
> 
> I think, but I'm not sure, that Firefox is able to set per-site
> preferences to a specific CSS style sheet. It would take some effort to
> set up but with half a dozen or so style sheets I'd imagine you could
> cover all the bases.
> 
> > If you don't find the solution to the problems theres nothing to stop
> > you from using Galeon (2.02 is in the Ubuntu repos).  Or of course
> > Konqueror, Epiphany or Opera.
> 
> I'll log another vote for my favorite browser... Opera. It will handle
> a) and b) right out of the box, and a quick test tells me that at least
> in saved sessions the "zoom level" of individual pages is saved. It
> also allows per-site style sheets which are loaded automagically when
> the site is accessed normally.


Hmm, I guess I might have to consider a non OSS solution, if it's really
that good.

Thanks.

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 22:54:20 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:54:20 -0500
Subject: Firefoxquestions
In-Reply-To: <70ca7a400612311420m37e4311fy323682e493e01bdc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20061231161447.GA31487@teddy.fas.com>
	<70ca7a400612311420m37e4311fy323682e493e01bdc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061231225420.GE9500@teddy.fas.com>

On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 09:20:17AM +1100, Slobodan wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> For c) please try the Firefox extension NoSquint ().

I'll look into it. Does it work with Firefox 2.x ?
-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 23:08:22 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:08:22 -0500
Subject: apt-get remove trying to remove to much
Message-ID: <20061231230822.GA10109@teddy.fas.com>

I wanted to remove mythflix, but when I tried to do:

apt-get remove mythflix, it tried to remove the following:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  mythflix mythplugins

I have other plugins, suc as mythweather, and I don't think apt-get remove
should wnat to remove this.

Am I wrong? If not, how can I fix this?

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From stanb at panix.com  Sun Dec 31 23:09:45 2006
From: stanb at panix.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:09:45 -0500
Subject: [mythtv-users] Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <45984142.9000506@linkline.com>
References: <20061224130150.GA30964@teddy.fas.com>
	
	<4596D4B1.9060208@linkline.com>
	<20061231224550.GA9500@teddy.fas.com>
	<45984142.9000506@linkline.com>
Message-ID: <20061231230945.GB10109@teddy.fas.com>

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 03:01:22PM -0800, Cecil Watson wrote:
> stan wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 01:05:53PM -0800, Cecil Watson wrote:
> > 
> >>>Some things to remember, and why this happened:
> >>>
> >>>1. KnoppMyth is NOT on .20 yet
> >>
> >>I guess you didn't see the R5E50 annoucement...  So much for my xmas
> >>present...
> > 
> > 
> > So, that KnoppMyth version has a version of Myth thatt's compatible with
> > the versionon Ubuntu 6.10?
> > 
> > 
> I've no idea what version of MythTV is with Ubuntu 6.10.  KnoppMyth has
> the second latest -fixes which uses protocol version 31.

Ok, thanks.

-- 
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



From jens at dataparty-mn.biz  Sun Dec 31 23:13:08 2006
From: jens at dataparty-mn.biz (Jens Cedlind)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:13:08 +0100
Subject: apt-get remove trying to remove to much
In-Reply-To: <20061231230822.GA10109@teddy.fas.com>
References: <20061231230822.GA10109@teddy.fas.com>
Message-ID: <1167606788.6139.1.camel@phobia.lan>

On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 18:08 -0500, stan wrote:
> I wanted to remove mythflix, but when I tried to do:
> 
> apt-get remove mythflix, it tried to remove the following:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   mythflix mythplugins
> 
> I have other plugins, suc as mythweather, and I don't think apt-get remove
> should wnat to remove this.
> 
> Am I wrong? If not, how can I fix this?

mythplugins is a wrapper package that depends on (among others)
mythflix.
Other myth plugins should stay if it's removed.

/Jens





From news at pointerstop.ca  Sun Dec 31 20:34:10 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:34:10 -0400
Subject: USB Stick with Password under Linux
References: <299ffe0d0612302341m2a85892fy9bb86cc0dc0b458@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061231062805.2c174dfb@steve.homeip.net>
	
	<20061231094643.1fcbcb8b@steve.homeip.net>
Message-ID: <2fjl64-9aq.ln1@othello.pointerstop.ca>

Steve Jeppesen wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:49:50 +0200
> Amichai Rotman wrote:
> 
>> That "cd-rom type" is the U3 fs containing pre-loaded apps to be used
>> anywhere you plug it in. It is actually supposed to be like this. If
>> you don't like it - you should've purchased another model....
> 
> and besides, if somebody can put linux on xbox or re-do the linux system
> on a linksys router - then someday somebody will figure out a way to
> wipe the fs off those flash drives (hopefully) and give you full control
> over the entire storage capability.

iirc, it may not be possible to completely reformat the stick, but it _is_
possible to shrink the "cd" image down to a pretty small size (with nothing
useful on it).
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Sun Dec 31 20:54:06 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:54:06 -0400
Subject: Rescue Mode?
References: 
Message-ID: 

Amichai Rotman wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> A friend of mine decided he wants to make the move to Linux.
> 
> I gave him one of the CDs I ordered from Canonical's Ship-It (Ubuntu
> 6.06). He tried to install it over the weekend.
> 
> He has WinXP installed and he wants Ubuntu to co-exist (for now...) on a
> second Hard Drive.
> 
> While installing he managed to mess up the partition table and now he
> can't access the Linux box....
> 
> I don't have all the details, but actually, what I wanted to ask was: How
> do I boot the LiveCD to Rescue Mode? How do I wipe the MBR (fdisk /mbr?)
> and re-install the GRUB Boot Loader?

Google?  Search the archive.  It's been answered many ways in at least two
threads, here, in the last two weeks.
-- 
derek




From news at pointerstop.ca  Sun Dec 31 21:02:12 2006
From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:02:12 -0400
Subject: no USB in Edgy [SOLVED] <-- needed a custom kernel
References: <78d24f7a0612300344v64e2a6a8v9a956cdc2b210711@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Rutger van Haasteren wrote:

> Since nobody responded I guess I am alone in this, but I solved the
> problem anyways. I took a kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ and compiled
> it for my system. Everything works now, including all my USB devices...
> Strange that nobody else has had this problem. It really is a problem with
> the stock Edgy kernel...
> 
No, it really isn't.  There may be something unusual about your
configuration, but USB is working for most of us.
-- 
derek




From custom at freenet.de  Fri Dec  1 06:25:35 2006
From: custom at freenet.de (Chanchao)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 06:25:35 -0000
Subject: wireless
In-Reply-To: <1164951262.6219.20.camel@epsilon>
References: <456E4556.6050705@cableone.net>
	<1164858386.9008.17.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com>
	<456F9D62.8030100@cableone.net>  <1164951262.6219.20.camel@epsilon>
Message-ID: <1164954321.4768.4.camel@necversa.SiamMandalay.com>

On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 05:34 +0000, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 21:11 -0600, tommy mcdurmon wrote: 
> > Thanks for all the suggestions. In spite of all this, I can connect with 
> > Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP with no problems. It seems Linux could come 
> > up with some solution without all the work and trouble I have had. I'll 
> > keep using the dual boot until they arrive at a reasonable answer.

Or, slightly more accurately, your notebook vendor could not come up
with a reasonable answer.   Indeed doesn't make much difference in the
end of course. :)

Cheers,
Chanchao