problem starting X (was: Re: Problems with bootable cd's)

[Rene Richard van Hassel]

Hoi Eberhard,


indeed I have thrown them away. The reason for this is, that 
on another place, I'm working fine with Ubuntu, also my laptop is
working without problems under Ubuntu and the installations on these
machines was without any problems.

There are more people with the problem that you cann't boot from 
the live CD. The Live-CD starts gives a blue screen and there comes
a question to reboot. The iso is correctly copied from internet
(md5-control) and on a correct way copied to a CD.
(not as data file, ..)
(The first Cd of Fedora seems to have the same problem in some 
cases.)

There are also many problems with grub, if you install from the 
live-cd. (desk version)

The latest (14 Aug) Edgy-version alternate, I had no problems
with booting the CD. The problem was the ext3 filesystem,
that you couldn't put on your partitions (there was no choice 
for an ext3 filesystem, only vfat and other types)

>From the Redhat installation, I have nothing kept as reference,
only the home-directory is put on another disk. Indeed 
stupid, but I thought that the installation should be simple,
just as it had gone on the other PC and laptop.

X is not going well: I mean that I think that the driver of
my graphic card is not found, so the xserver is not doing what it 
has to do. Some blus screen with $$$$ and other things, but not 
what I expected.

Problem here is that I have no idea how to get contact with 
internet with the line-commands. (I have no screen, where I can 
click or otherwise.) 

What is the nvidia driver? I will try your suggestion at the evening,
now I cann't do it.

I'm using latex very much and all kind off packages of it, these 
I have to find and install.

There are also other programs I have to search and install.
Till now this was going easy, so I hope at home also???

Thanks for your reaction,


Rene'





On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 09:34 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Hi REne Richard,
> 
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:44:42 +0200
> Rene Richard van Hassel <r.r.v.hassel at tue.nl> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > In the bios I saw no write protection or something like that.
> > But yesterday evening I got some version of Ubuntu (alternate),
> > which is going well. (Meanwhile I have thrown more then 10
> > cd's away. This is not what I expected from Ubuntu. )
> 
> Actually you said it correctly: _I_ have thrown more than 10
> cd's away. So it was YOU, not Ubuntu. 
> Whether a CD works or boots or not
> is generally dependant on how it was downloaded, how it was
> burnt, where it was burnt and much more... 
> 
> It would be different if you
> would NOT download isos but actually GET physical media from
> ubuntu ie Canonical. 
> 
> Actually I would recommend that you order
> your physical cds free-of-charge! via the ubuntu shipit service.
> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
> 
> > The cd, in question, boots well, and the installation is going
> > well. Also the choice in the partioner for an ext3 file system.
> > Also the choice where to put grub on the disk.
> 
> well, that sounds good, finally! Congratulations!
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Your machine is large enough that your startup problems are
> > > not due to insufficient memory.  Why X won't start on dapper
> > > --- were you asking for a strange resolution perhaps?  The
> > > idea would be to try to run with (perhaps too) simple
> > > settings like (800x600) and US keyboard, and only after try
> > > increasing resolution and color depth.  Try to duplicate the
> > > settings used with the LiveCD which worked for you. (Boot
> > > the Live CD and check resolution if you aren't sure).
> > > 
> > 
> > Only X is not starting well.
> > I have a GeForge graphic card, may be there is no driver found 
> > in the set of drivers given on the CD.
> > Where can I find drivers for a GF-card?
> 
> What _exactly_ do you mean by "Only X is not starting well"?
> 
> Actually there are proprietary drivers at www.nvidia.com. 
> You could _possibly_ use them later on! for special things like
> 3d-Acceleration.
> But I doubt that they will cure your much more basic
> problem. So my recommendation:
> First let's solve your problem until we have a working X and then
> decide on further steps, eventually.
> 
> Please make sure that you have installed the nvidia driver that
> comes with ubuntu.
> sudo apt-get install xserver-org-driver-nv should tell you and
> install if it's not there.
> > 
> > If this is done, the PC works, but nothing more then that.
> 
> Well, if it works, then this is much more than you think you have
> now, isn't it? ;-))
> 
> 
> > There has to be done a lot to get everything back from what 
> > was installed on the "old" PC.
> 
> What _exactly: do you need to have installed? 
> 
> Did you save your "old" PC data for
> reference?
> 
> 
> kind regards
> Eberhard
>