Using Ubuntu absolves the user of personal responsibility?

Gilles Gravier Gilles at Gravier.org
Thu Aug 3 13:37:34 UTC 2006


Alexander, appart from the "you moron" addition, whcih I don't really 
remember as being in the post Michael refers to, the answer #1 was texto 
what you said.

Not being home, I can't find the archived mail, but I am sure one here can.

Gilles.

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com>:
>
>   
>> On Thu, 2006-03-08 at 09:17 -0400, Todd Slater wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I read, with some sadness, the thread on mounting an ISO as a virtual
>>> cd-rom. It appears that pointing someone to a web search or man page
>>> is no longer considered a helpful response. Instead, we must reinvent
>>> the wheel any time a basic question--with more than sufficient
>>> documentation available--is asked. However, I don't think that the
>>> whole Ubuntu humanity thing should be about spoon feeding, but rather
>>> developing competent, self-efficacious users.
>>>
>>> When we absolve people of personal responsibility, we often create a
>>> situation of dependence.  As shining examples of this, we might look
>>> at the "health" care, social welfare, and educational systems of the
>>> United States.
>>>
>>> The notion that it's not acceptable to help people to help themselves
>>> is really ironic when you consider the African roots of Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> My $0.02.
>>>       
>> That's not the issue.
>>     
>
> Yes, it is.
>
>   
>> The issue is how should this pointing be 
>> presented.  Some people -- well, one person in particular -- believes in
>> short, terse almost mocking responses. 
>>     
>
> Who?
>
>   
>> Others believe in helpful 
>> responses.  Compare and contrast:
>>
>> Approach #1: Google on "mount" and "ISO" you moron!
>>     
>
> Who did that?
>
>   
>> Approach #2: "mount -t iso9660 -o loop <file>"
>>     
>
> That's a *VERY* bad approach, as has been explained before.
>
>   
>> Approach #3: "Go take a quick look at "man mount" and look at the -t and
>> -o options, paying attention specifically to the iso9660 type and the
>> loop option."
>>     
>
> That's more or less what I did.
>
>   
>> Which of the three is most immediately helpful to the end-user?
>>     
>
> #3
>
>   
>> Which of the three is most long-term helpful to the end-user?
>>     
>
> #1
>
>   
>> Which of the three leaves the end-user with the impression that the
>> community consists of troglodytes?
>>     
>
> #2
>
> Alexander Skwar
>   

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