Fw: NOT HAPPY after Breezy upgrade/install

[Jay Ridgley]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jay Ridgley 
To: Peter Garrett 
Cc: ubuntu-users at ubuntu.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: NOT HAPPY after Breezy upgrade/install


Peter,
cc: ubuntu-users

Sorry for the direct reply, however, I have limited means to provide information. An * indicates my response,
I appologize for the length and any mispellings.

What would you suggest I try next?

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:50:27 -0500
"Jay Ridgley" <jridgley2 at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> This is hard for me to say, however, after I did an upgrade from a working 5.04 Ubuntu installation to 5.10. I discovered that networking did not work anymore. 

Can you be more specific? 
* I have a small network (3 systems + firewall system). Prior to the latest attempt to upgradge, it was working fine.
 afterwards I am no longer able to ping from my main workstation to the other systems. If I manually enter:
 sudo ifconfig eth0 polar netmask 255.255.255.0 I am able to do so. However I am still unable to get to the outside world ie. "The net" from that system, yet I am able to get there from the other systems I am using. One is a laptop that runs MS Windows ( I want to convert it as well but not yet..). It is the one I am using for this connection! It is connected to my network and is called nomad (see below) 

What was/is your network setup? 

* All hardwired systems (cat 5) with a hub.

* polar  192.168.x.4   ursa  192.168.x.3   nomad 192.168.x.10 <---- workstations

* mateo  192.168.x.2   <---- firewall, gateway also connects to the "Net" via a 2nd NIC via a dynamic IP  cable  * connection. It is also my nameserver.

What is thecontents of /etc/network/interfaces ?

* This file contained the wrong IP address for polar, I thought AHA I found it, but after correcting that and all 
* all other entries accociated with it, including /etc/networks. I rebooted -- no joy -- had to add the eth0 manually.
* no other changes in behavior have been discovered.

Was your nic recognised? 

* Indications are that it is being recognized because when I do an ifconfig -a before doing the ifconfig for eth0 it
* shows everything but the IP address. The loopback interface ( lo) shows up as well. The tulip driver is being
* loaded during boot.

What hardware are you using? 

* An Intel box with a 686 processor, scsi disks, tape and CDRW and an  IDE CD (added specifically to support
* Ubuntu, but that is another matter). Plus the other necessary HW including the NIC.

"Did not work" in what sense? <-- see above
Could you pingbetween network machines? <-- see above and below
 Were you unable to connect to the Internet? <-- see above and below
Are you using cable, dialup, adsl ? Cable 
Do you use Samba? <-- NO 
NFS? <-- NO 

And so on...
* The following commands are what I have been using to get as far as I have. Note x stands for the the third node of
* the quad, it is correct.

* ifconfig <-- shows ONLY lo
* route -n <-- shows nothing bu the header
* ifconfig -a <-- no eth0 IP address but eth0, lo and sit0 show up
* sudo ifconfig eth0 polar netmask 255.255.255.0
* ifconfig -a <--- shows the correct IP address for eth0 all the others are unchanged
* -- NOW I can ping other systems on my network
* route -n <--- shows an entry for eth0
* sudo route add -net 192.168.x.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw mateo
* route -n <-- the added gateway line is added and appears correct
* ping yahoo.com <-- unknown host, I still am able to ping within my network

> After several attempts to manually configure it with no success I decided
> to do an install. 

An install? Do you mean a complete OS  reinstall ? <-- Yes 

What do you mean exactly? 
* I booted from an install disk for 5.10 direct from Canonical. And did a default installation, just like I did
* when I initially brought up 5.04.

> The results of that activity were also less than what I
> wanted... networking still broke, thunderbird is not there, and some other
> minor items are also not right.

As far as I know, Thunderbird is not installed by default in Ubuntu -
Evolution is (although IIRC Thunderbird is on the disc)
> 
> I have been using Linux for years and this has been about the most frustrating experience I have had.

That's unfortunate - we might be better able to help with a bit more
detail about your setup and a bit more precision - for instance, do you
have any error messages you can tell us about? ( Alt-F4 in the installer
might tell you what went wrong on the reinstall, for example, or the
install logs in /var/log/installer  ? )

* Nothing indicating any errors, so I guess all was OK.

> 
> Can I go back to 5.04 from 5.10? 

If you mean a direct downgrade, I don't think so - at least not without a
lot of frustrating fiddling about.

> At least it was working except for supporting a new HP PSC1610 printer 
> I purchased. That was the reason for the move to 5.10, it was suggested that perhaps it would be easier 
> to debug the problem.
> 
> My only other alternative is to go back to RedHat 7.3, which was what I was using when I moved to Ubuntu.

Red Hat 7.3 was a great distro - but that was a few years ago...
* It was working just fine for me, except I wanted to get some of the new things like firefox and thunderbird.
* I converted to Ubuntu in January, I liked it! When I bought the printer i could not get it to be recognized 
* and the person working with me suggested upgrading to 5.10.

Peter
-- 

Linux User #343161 

Thanks for the hints,
Jay
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