that darned ROOT problem

[Vram]

On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 09:20 -0400, Matan Nassau wrote:
> On 9/28/05, Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic at dantian.org> wrote:
> > If someone tries to su to a non-existant account, su complains:
> >
> > mario at phonic: / $ su doesnt_exist
> > Unknown id: doesnt_exist
> > mario at phonic: / $
> >
> > If someone tries to su to root when it is disabled, it could well say
> > "root account disabled. See /usr/share/doc/<somepackage>/README for
> > info", at least the first time it is run by a user.
> 
> This is not the same. root does exist, and will never cease to exist.
> As much as I understand the mechanism of sudo, sudo is merely a
> running automatic third-party between users and root, and it knows who
> is priviledged and who's not, to forward requests to root.
> 
> All Ubuntu did was to DISABLE root, not delete it (you can't, correct
> me if I'm wrong). They just edit the passwd file so that any password
> you enter to become root will fail. root is still there as much as su,
> or the system for this matter, are concerned. You can, however, wrap
> su with some crafted script (or worse yet change the su code) but you
> then start doing things the Wrong Way(tm), because you farther make
> the users get used to Non-Standard(tm) things -- only this time for no
> justified reason.
> 



NO..Not the way I understand it..  
What Ubuntu did was activate sudo and give the first user <you> all
privileges.

Root is still there just not activated.  <Different from deactivated><At
least in my mind>

Anyway
My  $0.02

Vram
  


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