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[Eric S. Johansson]

Al Gordon wrote:
> 
> Zimbra - Not native to Debian or Ubuntu yet, but it looks promising:
> http://www.zimbra.com/

I would love to contribute something to an application environment like 
zimbra but when I read the contributors agreement, I was stopped dead with:

2. You assign all right, title and interest worldwide in copyrights and 
related moral rights for the full term of their existence to Zimbra and 
Zimbra shall be able to register this assignment. If the moral rights 
are not assignable, you agree to waive their enforcement against Zimbra 
and its sublicensees, either direct or indirect. However, at the same 
time, Zimbra grants to you a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, 
worldwide, royalty free, transferable copyright license to reproduce, 
prepare derivative works of, distribute (internally and externally, in 
object code and, if included in Your Contributions, source code form), 
use, publicly perform and publicly display Your Contributions, with the 
right to sublicense all of these rights through multiple tiers of 
sublicensees. The intention of the parties is that this license will be 
as broad as possible and to provide you with rights as similar as 
possible to the rights of the owner of the copyright. This license is 
limited to Your Contributions and does not provide any rights to the 
Zimbra Products. You also grant to Zimbra a non-exclusive, perpetual, 
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty free, transferable license under any 
Contribution Patents owned by you now or in the future to make, use, 
sell, offer for sale and import Your Contributions alone or in 
combination with the Zimbra Product, with the right to sublicense all of 
these rights through multiple tiers of sublicensees. The definition of 
Contribution Patents are those patents where the manufacture, use, sale, 
offer for sale or import of Your Contributions would infringe (either 
directly or indirectly) one or more valid claims of such Contribution 
Patents.

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excuse me?  I'm giving you a voluntary contribution for no compensation 
and will probably be asked to help fix bugs, you'll probably create an 
incompatible variant of my package yielding my ongoing work useless 
unless I keep you in sync for free.  And why should I give you this 
contribution again?


> I've not been following this thread too closely, but I have noticed
> that there have been some posts to the effect of "just install
> squirrelmail".  I think that a lot of MS Exchange web client users are
> going to be disappointed with Squirrel, when you compare them
> side-by-side, as far as the features and overall "feel" of the app
> goes.  As far as the price, Squirrel wins hands-down. ;)

no argument about that.  PHP is the sendmail of the Web set both in 
terms of reliability and security.  Whenever possible I avoid PHP and 
would suggest that others do the same.  On the other hand squirrel Mail 
does work nicely *once you get it working* which can be a trick and a half.

--- eric