Hi Yes I am still on Hoary. Could not find Alacarte either. Darn! -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 MSN: sillydilly at spamcop.net Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt 06:35:39 up 5 days, 19:03, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00