Ubuntu PPC 4.10 Installed on new Mac Mini

David Collett david.collett at gmail.com
Tue Jan 25 07:57:39 UTC 2005


Linux should certainly not crash regularly, this is not normal.
Normally total crashes in linux are related to:
1. Hardware problems, (linux tends to utilise hardware better than
windows (ie. stress it out more), so flaky hardware may give you
*more* grief in linux than it would in windows. Have you tried running
the "memtest" option in Ubuntu's grub menu?)
2. Kernel Modules (ie. Binary, proprietary, third-party,
experimental). In kernel space, misbehaving code can cause complete
system failures. Are you running any binary or experimental modules?

Dave

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:38:55 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez
<vincent.trouilliez at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > ...Linux is coming into its own, and, the biggest challenges
> > facing the Linux world (IMO) are having a standardised app installer
> > paradigm,
> 
> Yep, I totally agree. There nothing more frustrating than seeing a super
> marvelous application that would make you super happy, but not being
> able to use it because you have to compile yourself and you don't know
> ho, or can't bother; or you have a .deb file, but you have missing
> dependencies or whatever problem.
> Not sure how we should do that though. Either a more complex "synaptic",
> with az high-level GUI that would show only end user applications, and
> not thousands of packages and system related files, source code, headers
> etc, and get pre-compiled apps from the Ubuntu repositories.
> Or, if we ("we" as in  Linux world, not just Ubuntu) should take a more
> universal approach. That is, people would click on the tar.gz file of
> the source code, in the download page of the website of program
> blah-blah, then the system would auto-detect what depencies need to be
> retrieved, then everything is compiled on the machine.
> This way, people/users would not be restricted by what apps are in the
> Ubuntu reposotiry, and could be garanteed to be able to install any
> program from the source code.
> This would save the Ubuntu team from having to spend hundreds of hours
> compiling thousands of packages on Ubuntu, for each platform, and do it
> all over again every 6 month, to update the version.
> I don't know what's best. Compiling from source gives you access to more
> apps, or lets you use the most recent version of your favorite app, but
> you always run the risk that the compiling process may fail, for
> whatever reason. On the other hand, maintaining a Ubuntu repository must
> be extremely time consuming, but your are 100% garanteed that it will
> work, because it has been compiled by Ubuntu, on Ubuntu, the exact same
> Ubuntu that you are using (talking of stable releases of course).
> Maybe we could use both systems. That is, use the repository for all the
> common apps that most un-experienced/most users are likely to be wanting
> to use, stuff as much more as we can, then, if your application is not
> in the repository, you could start a "wizard" that will assit you in
> compiling your application from the source code, sort out dependencies,
> download them, compile them etc.
> What do you think ? Is Ubuntu thinking about something like this, albeit
> for the very distant future ?
> When looking at Nvu the other day, I came accross a commercial Linux
> distro named "Linspire" (www.linspire.com). I think it's a commercial,
> desktop only, KDE based distro, mainly in the USA, that mimics Windows
> to drag joe public to Linux. They have a system called "CNR" to ease the
> installation of software. Don't know what it is exactly, what it does
> how it works, but maybe it's a start ??
> 
> 
> > having a polished and flawless GUI
> 
> Yes, Ubuntu and Gnome certainly help a lot in this dept. ! :o)
> 
> > and having _one_ stable and _predictable_ platform
> 
> Ohhh, yes... "stable"...stable...stable... :o))))
> 
> > for which to develop for a few years. App quality will inevitably follow.
> 
> Yep, agree here too. If we make it easy for people to develop good
> programs, then make it easy for users to install these programs, mix all
> that in a stable and polished Ubuntu (for example ;o), Linux will rule
> the world in no time ! :o)))
> 
> > Since I haven't had to reconfigure stuff I imagine that an "official"
> > upgrade to Hoary may also absolve you of the need to reconfigure .conf
> > files.
> 
> Ah, that's very good news then :o)
> 
> Vince
> 
> 
> --
> ubuntu-users mailing list
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
>




More information about the ubuntu-users mailing list