Pine in Hoary

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On 21/1/05 6:06 am, "Chuck Vose" <vosechu at gmail.com> wrote:

>> It seems like mutt uses vi :-(. All this silly OSS politics. Pine is
>> available for redistribution, without needing to get permission from
>> UWash, to all distros that don't sell themselves (does Ubuntu do
>> that)! If you want to modify it *and* redistribute then you need
>> permission. IIRC pico is included in Ubuntu. No reason pine couldn't
>> also be included.
>> 
>> YDL sells its distro (though, it also allows downloads) and
>> distributes pine with it (& I doubt UWash demands any $$$ for the
>> right to redistribute for non-paying customers since YDL couldn't
>> afford to be giving away apps they paid for for free).
> 
> In the FSF definition of free there's another condition on 'freedom':
> the inability to remove this freedome. As it is the UW can choose to
> make pine/pico/pilot pay-for-play whenever they choose. They probably
> won't but you never know. They also require that changes made include
> a L on the version number so that Pine is never a community project
> and can never (legally) become owned by the community.
> 
> This is why you won't find qmail or pine anywhere near a distribution
> that is based on the Stallman version of freedom. Debian and Ubuntu
> are extremely concerned with making sure the software used is free in
> all the Stallman ways. If you want, Fedora could care less whether the
> software is free or not and is an incredibly good distro. Ubuntu folks
> however are on the other side of the moral fence and we intend to keep
> it that way.
> 
> -Chuck

I have a great regard for Richard Stallman and his ideals. My 'thing' about
Pine is it was the email we used at university and it makes me all warm and
nostalgic :)

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