This Mailinglist - another vote for sanity

Markus Kolb ubuntu-ml at tower-net.de
Thu Jan 13 14:15:19 UTC 2005


Sean Miller wrote on Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:12:32 +0000:
> Markus Kolb wrote:
> 
> I get really bored with this sort of pedantic argument -- this is like 
> saying "the sun does not rise, as the sun never moves -- it is the earth 
> that spins"... the people send to the list, the software running the 
> list forwards it to each member of the list... it originates with the 
> sender and arrives in the member's inbox... the argument regarding 
> "reply-to" has nothing to do with the mechanisms or where the mail 
> originated, it is all to do with where replies should go by default. If 

The origin is the sender and not the list. Once again. A reply should go
to the sender. That's the purpose of a reply.
The list doesn't "forward", it copies the mails. Click the forward
button in your MUA and you'll see the difference.
It would be a rewrite of the mailheader and no public mail should be
fake changed by a piece of software.

> Except that you're missing the point entirely... it is the *minority* 
> that want to answer only the sender... the *majority* would want to 
> reply to the list, and the list would want that to be the case so that 
> we don't get threads that end unexpectedly without an answer. Why should 
> it be that the people who want to answer to the list have to mess around 
> cutting and pasting whilst the few who want to send a private reply just 
> hit the "reply" button... this is all back-to-front!! It's mad...

You are not the majority. There is a half dozen, maybe a dozen, who
wants a header rewrite. All the people who wants as it is, doesn't care
of this debate and are bored because this question is coming again and
again.  Look in the archives.

> What an arrogant statement -- 90% of mailing lists use the reply-to in 
> this way, so clearly a lot of people in this world (including the mighty 

90%. From where do you have this number? Are there statistics?
I receive every day over 100000 mails from lists and not one list
overwrites the reply-to field.  I know this configuration only from
hobby-admin lists with a small user number, where the intention is clear
that everyone should read everything.
Here this is not the case.

> No, you should go and see a therapist about your attitude mate! You are 
> *so* patronising, and it is unnecessary. This "I am right, so all you 
> thickos should stop posting" is not helpful at all.

Thanks for the offence.
Do you have such a bad characteristic that you must offend other people
if they don't have the same opinion?

I've considerated the situation a really long moment if I should write
anything. I knew that it is not welcome you guys become contra. It is my
opinion and it shouldn't be helpful. It is a statement from my person
and you should be so 'kind' to accept the opinion of other people.

Put the change to a non-anonymous vote with registered email addresses
and a feedback to the email address.
If it is the majority, then you may request a change. You can not
request a change with offending listposts telling that you are the
majority. That is patronising and revolutionizing.

Here we know a saying: Someone who sits in a glasshouse shouldn't throw
stones.

Markus




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