PPPoE -> DHCP : how to switch ???

[Vincent Trouilliez]

Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 00:08 -0800, Chuck Vose a écrit :
> Whew, quite the thread! 
> 
> Hopefully this will help you understand PPPoE and why you shouldn't
> have to touch it (if you are using it with cable which only happens in
> Brazil apparently). With DSL what you usually have is a very similar
> setup but because DSL modems often come with routers in them we've
> lost track of the concepts.
> 
> In any broadband connection you usually have a modem that hooks into a
> router which hooks into your computer or a switch (and then to your
> computers). In the case of cable we use cable modems which communicate
> over just plain old TCP/IP, in the case of a DSL modem we put a
> point-to-point connection on top of TCP/IP so that the DSL boys can
> track who's coming onto the network, when, etc.
> 
> Anyways, the point is that DSL modems require an extra step. In order
> to make this a little easier people started making routers that could
> do this extra step so you don't have to have special software for your
> computer. All was well and good until people started putting the
> router on the modem and everybody spent too much money and got
> confused :)
> 
> So, either way, ideally, you shouldn't have to deal with PPPoE unless
> you don't have a router or modem that figures this all out for you.
> 
> On to the smtp stuff, the best I can suggest is to call the broadband
> provider and find out what the outgoing email server's dns name is.
> The outgoing and incoming servers are usually different where incoming
> can stay the same over any network, the outgoing has to live on the
> network (ok it doesn't but most people tell the outgoing smtp servers
> not to allow any emails out except from the internal network).
> 
> In my case my incoming server is pop.gmail.com and my outgoing is
> smtp.advancedstream.com; completely different networks but everything
> works. Yay!
> 
> I hope this helps you understand what's going on with your setup, if
> nothing it will hopefully get you started on disabling pppoe. Have you
> checked for any documents on this matter? My guess is that if you find
> a pppoe howto you can follow the steps backwards and figure out things
> :)
> 
> As always, if it doesn't help let me know and I'll try to continue :)
> -Chuck

Chuck, thanks the lesson, but you have completely lost me ! :-O
Sounds very complicated...
Thank god it works now, so I dont really need to dig further ;o)
Basically I love DHCP, it all works automagically, didn't even need to
enter a log-in or password. This is definitely what we need for a "user
friendly" Linux experience. 
To remove the pppoe link, I only did 'ppp stop' then removed and purged
the 'ppp' package from Synaptic. 

Vince, now enjoying 1Mbps... and eying the 20Mbps service....only
eying...it's twice the price ! :-/