Ubuntu is under attack

[Mike Bird]

On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 21:44, Anders Karlsson wrote:
> A sysadm requiring an MTA should be installing the server install
> (separate ISO as of Breezy) and he can have his MTA straight of the
> bat.

Anders,

It took an hour to check your facts.  All wrong.  Why didn't
YOU check before misleading everybody on the list?

1) The Breezy server install, like the Breezy desktop install,
   doesn't include Postfix, Mailx, /usr/sbin/sendmail,
   or any other MTA that I can find.  And of course ...
2) The server install isn't on a separate ISO in Breezy.

The hour wasn't completely wasted as I noticed a couple of
things I hadn't noticed before:

1) In another dumbdowngrade, Breezy server also omits ssh server
   from the initial installation.  Kudos to Edubuntu for getting
   that one right.

2) In a masterpiece of illogic, desktop and server variants of
   Breezy both include the "popularity-contest" spyware, although
   it's turned off and in any event is useless without an MTA.

--Mike Bird