Ubuntu is under attack

[Peter Garrett]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:18:19 -0500
Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about having some freedom from religious bigots who insist that
> emails be incorporated at the expense of something else. It's nice to
> have your cake and eat it too, but, unless you're the one paying for
> the cake, it's hard to demand vanilla when everyone else wants
> chocolate!

I think this misses the point spectactularly.

In the first place, even if you accept the idea that postfix should be
included by default (which, as a number of people have already commented,
is not actually necessary "per se", since there are simpler MTAs
available), you are looking at a rather small amount of disc space. From 

apt-cache show postfix

Filename: pool/main/p/postfix/postfix_2.2.4-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
Size: 910878

similarly mailx :

Filename: pool/main/m/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
Size: 149566

On the point of having your cake and eating it:

Just Works (tm) implies that not only the user interface, but the
underlying system should be complete and functional. That functionality
includes standard and accepted norms like local mail delivery, since cron
makes its reports that way, amongst other reasons.

I'm all in favour of sensible discussion of this issue, but I'm also in
favour of avoiding name-calling, and avoiding arguments that are based
on convenient reconstructions of what other people have actually said.

Peter