mutt/procmail mailbox modification times

[David Hart]

On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 09:19:52AM -0500, Todd Slater wrote:

> On 12/3/05, David Hart <ubuntu at tonix.org> wrote:
> <snip>
> > But thankfully, (big sigh), I've found what the problem was.  I was
> > running the Beagle search deamon on the Breezy boxes that I checked.
> > Beagle (making use of, I believe, the inotify patches in the kernel)
> > was indexing the mails as fast as they were being delivered.
> >
> > I've now stopped Beagle indexing my mail folder and Mutt works again
> > :) Shame to loose indexing of mails though :(  Does anyone have any
> > ideas to work around it (apart from not using Mutt :)
> >
> > Thanks to both of you who replied.
> 
> Did you build beagle or customize your kernel? I believe on the ubuntu
> beagle page it was specifically recommended not to use the inotify
> patch. Unless something drastic has changed from hoary to breezy, I
> can't imagine inotify is built into the kernel. Wouldn't be the first
> time I was wrong, though.

I just installed beagle from the breezy repositry.  I'd only assumed
that something like inotify was being used because of the astounding
speed with which beagle was picking up changes in the filesystem (do a
search in beagle on a nonsense word, then put a text file in your
filesystem containing it and beagle picks it up in a few seconds or
less).

I understand that inotify is now integrated into kernel 2.6.13 so I
wouldn't've thought it much problem to backport it to breezy's kernel
(but what do I know on these matters :)

> Here I'm using a fresh install of breezy and I don't have any problem
> with my fetchmail/postfix/mutt maildir setup. I build mutt from source
> for the trash patch.

The laptop I'm using now (on which I noticed the problems) is a
fresh install of breezy.  I've used postfix/mutt/procmail since
debian/potato so I'm not really a newcomer to it.

What's the trash patch?
 
> As far as indexing my  mails with beagle, I do have that working
> without modifying times or read status. I just added my Maildirs as
> roots to beagle and it works pretty well. I haven't figured out how to
> get beagle to use the subject in the search results, instead it uses
> the file name.

I think maybe it's because you're using maildir that you're ok.
I use mbox.  It's worked for me so far (on my personal mailboxes)
and I find it more compatible with 'greping' (although I've used
maildir on servers).

-- 
David Hart <ubuntu at tonix.org>