Suse 9.3 and Ubuntu ??

[Leaf]

On Sunday 10 April 2005 10:05, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
> > SUSE 9.3 will be available as boxed sets with one or two large manuals,
> >  in about a week's time.
> > If they follow their past practice, about six weeks later, it will be
> > available for free download. So the 100 USD becomes 0 USD!
>
> Ah, so it's like Mandrake then. Will it also be like Mandrake, in that
> that the download version is not as good/complete as the boxed version ?
> Okay, let's try to stay positive... even if the download if 100% similar
> to the boxed version, Ubuntu still has the lead, as it comes on one
> single CD (and is even delivered FOC), whereas I think Suse take several
> CD's or even a DVD, and not many people can afford to download a DVD,
> nevermind paying for DVD writer and expensive blanck DVD.
> Whereas a CD ISO is fairly doable with reasonable bandwidth, CR burner
> cost 30 Euros, and Blank CD's only one Euro.
> And I am not sure if Suse has a Live CD to let beginners "test the
> water" before considering a disk install. Or maybe they have a Live DVD,
> but again, not as good/easy/cheap/convient as a Live CD.
>
> So Ubuntu is still more attractive to beginners I think :o)))
>
>
> --
> Vince

PCLinuxOS comes on one CD (and it is a LiveCD that is installable), SuSE 9.1 
was on a single CD (haven't messed with it since though).  Mandrake (now 
Mandriva) works much like Linspire in primarily selling it's "service" side, 
so they hold alot out of the common release in order to pull users into 
subscriptions.  Unfortunately that includes Java and such, which are basic 
necessities in today's WWW.  You can find resources to load them yourself, or 
build them from scratch, if you look around.  Or you can get 
Ubuntu/Kubuntu/FC/and many others that include what most users need "out of 
the box", or at least available sans subscriptions.