mdz at canonical.com
Fri Sep 24 07:20:58 UTC 2004
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 02:53:08PM +1000, Stuart Bishop wrote:
> - Default is to erase my entire hard drive? Eek! I hope there is a
> confirmation on the next page (and I'm not tempting fate to find out)!
There is, of course. And since you're installing on a brand new machine,
it's clearly the right default in this case. :-)
> - No way to shrink the existing NTFS partition on the install CD.
> Downloaded the Gentoo based System Rescue CD
> (http://www.sysresccd.org/), containing QTParted which looks cool and
> worked well. Something like this needs to be integrated into our
> installer for Hoary. We might want to document using sysresccd.org as a
> workaround until this is done?
I think more recent versions of parted are able to resize NTFS, and also fix
some other bugs. Colin is considering bringing in a new version from
> - Most linux newbies, as they have a windows partition to worry about,
> will have to do a manual partition. A third option (Use all free space)
> would be nice. The partition editor says use one big file system +
> swap, but neglects to mention how much swap linux wants or needs. I've
> gone for what the partition editor recommended after I told it to use
> the rest of the disk space - hopefully this was done based on how much
> RAM I have installed.
The amount of swap you need is a function of things that are difficult to
determine in advance, like the type of workload the machine will be doing.
We just choose a sane default amount of swap. If you want something
different, the manual partitioning option provides more flexibility.
> - 2 second timeout on grub seems way too fast. I'd go for 5 or 6 with a
> more informative message, or people might think Ubuntu nuked their
See discussion in https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290
> - Seems to have booted into the correct resolution. Man that font is
> tiny on a 1900x1600 15" LCD display - couldn't we increase the default
> font size for high resolutions? At least for the login box lost in the
> middle of the display?
We should all be so fortunate as to have that problem. :-) Sounds like a
Hoary polish item.
> - No wireless. The card is detected, but nobody wants to know what my
> WEP password is so it is not surprising it cannot connect. I've managed
> to get it connected by manually entering some iwconfig comands and
> rerunning the GUI, but I have no idea if it will stick after the next
> reboot. Hmm.. adding the relevant line to /etc/network/interfaces does
> the job, but the Gnome config applet nukes this if I run it. So I won't
> run it for now.
> - Trying to configure the wireless the first time crashed
> 'network-admin', but no idea what product to send the bug report too.
> Discussions I had with Martin Pitt at the conference tell me we can fix
> this for Hoary (the bug reporting - not network-admin).
Product: Ubuntu, Component: gnome-system-tools, but check that it's not
> - Setting up a tethered connection using the GUI tool worked, although
> my nameserver was not picked up from DHCP. I needed to manually enter
> the IP address in the DNS panel.
That's odd. What ended up in /etc/resolv.conf?
> - The buttons on my keyboard that DELL tells me controls volume don't.
> No idea if there is a standard for these sorts of 'multimedia keys'
> that we can support. Brightness control buttons (Fn-up and Fn-Down) do
> work. Other Fn-magic keys don't (eject CD etc.)
> - Hitting the power button appears to want to shut down the system but
> fails (hangs after outputting acpi_power_off. Holding down the power
> button completes process)
> - Suspend key does nothing
There is apparently no suspend method available which is reliable enough to
enable by default.
> - Closing the lid and opening it shows the screen saver has kicked in,
> or sometimes shows nothing but a flashing cursor that requires a power
The former is normal, the latter is not.
> - There is no firewall GUI. Looks like we have no filters configured by
> default, which scares more advanced Windows or OSX users. I shouldn't
> have to port scan my own machine to determine what is open and what is
> - Synaptic seems cool. I wouldn't have had a clue what the various
> optional repositories were though if I hadn't picked it up through
> osmosis on IRC and at the conference (well - I still don't know why we
> have warty and warty-security. It can't be crypto as gpg is already
> installed from the cd). Selected the deb universe and dev
> warty-security repositories. Maybe I should read that documentation...
> - Gaim notification sound defaulted to 'system beep' which was most
> annoying. Setting it to 'ESD' works, and rent-a-cat agrees.
It should default to 'auto', which will find ESD if it's there.
> - Trying to add a timeserver using the 'Time and Date Settings' control
> panel gives me the error message:
> 'NTP support is not running. Please run NTP support in the system to
> enable synchronization of your local time server with internet time
> I have no idea what 'run NTP support in the system' means, even though
> it parses as English.
I don't think "install the ntp-simple package" would be much better.
> - My time in Windows is correct. My time in Ubuntu is 10 hours out. I
> assume this means one OS is running with the system clock in localtime,
> and the other with the system clock in UTC. *update* appears to be
> fixed after package upgrades.
Not fixed, probably Ubuntu just set your clock to the correct UTC time.
> - If there is no network when login in, the gaim error dialog is hidden
> behind the ubuntu startup splash, which doesn't go away because gaim
> isn't finished...
> - Clicking on the 'Desktop' button in Synaptic's package manager gives
> a 'Folder unreadable: No such file or directory' error. I guess its
> concept of Desktop is different to Ubuntu's.
Bug. I didn't even know it _had_ a Desktop button anywhere in it.
> - Firefox '0.99+1.0PR-0ubunto' has a broken about dialog (just get a
> gecko error).
> All up, at first I was thinking 'oops - should have bought the Mac
> instead' but I'm coming around now :-) I'm sure there is gobs of cool
> stuff for me to be playing with in the packages - I need some sort of
> 'recommended in Universe' list so I only have to test one or two mp3
> players rather than 10 (I guess this would have to be more editorial than
> official, since it is based on opinions. I guess that 'popularity contest'
> package I saw might help here too). Or maybe ubuntu + restricted serves
> this purpose?
Where there is a leading choice, we ship it on the CD. :-) Rhythmbox is our
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