sshd by default -> no [Was: Runlevel Configuration in g-s-t]

[Daniel Stone]

On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:09:17AM +0000, John wrote:
> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> ><quote who="John">
> >>It may not be necessary _for you_, but your judging my requirements is
> >>silly.
> >
> >We're not basing these decisions on our own preferences, we're basing them
> >on the greatest common factor of user needs. sshd simply isn't required by
> >most classes of users in a default desktop system. We make it very easy to
> >install. Thus, we easily satisfy two classes, while keeping our default
> >configuration simple and sane. We, as technical users, may prefer to have
> >sshd on every machine, but that is not the case for most desktop users.
> 
> How do you see maintenance being done in a corporate environment?

sudo apt-get install openssh-server

A corporate environment would require some customisation and tweaking,
anyway -- this would just be one of the tweaks.

> >Installing sshd is as simple as 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' once
> >you've installed the system. It would be the same number of commands (one)
> >to enable it even if it were installed already (because we would not enable
> >it by default, as per no-listening policy). Plus, it'll be even easier to
> >install in HoaryHedgehog.
> 
> In an Anaconda-using distro I simply list the package in the appropriate 
> section, maybe a script in the post-install section and it's done.
> 
> Don't need to insert CD, or type more commands or anything.  At present, 
> there is no simple automatic way to adjust the package selection in Ubuntu.

sudo apt-get install openssh-serer

> Rob annoyed me because he contradicted a point I made. I justfied my 
> preference with a concrete example,  He simply poopooed the idea.
> 
> If you have surveys of your market that is going to actually pay you 
> money that reveal remote maintenance is unimportant, that's fine. Ship 
> that way. It's not my feeling, but I have not done surveys.

sudo apt-get install openssh-server

A corporate environment would require some customisation and tweaking,
anyway -- this would just be one of the tweaks.

> I worked a while in a bank. I had NT on my desktop. When it didn't work 
> (several times) the network bloke had to come to my computer and click 
> endlessly with the mouse. With remote admin facilities he could probably 
> have done it from his desk, in less time that it took to come to me.

sudo apt-get install openssh-server

A corporate environment would require some customisation and tweaking,
anyway -- this would just be one of the tweaks.

-- 
Daniel Stone                                        <daniel.stone at canonical.com>
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