Outcome of community meeting on 18 October

Wed Oct 20 20:34:10 UTC 2004

mr. shuttlesworth,

	ignore this crybaby.

	you cant please some people...they'd rather stay mad than solve the
problem.
	if  he wants to take 'his ball' because he didnt have 'next' and go
home, let him.

	the manner in which  you handled the scenario showed class and
flexibility.

	the best one can do for one such as he is to offer them a bit of
chesse
	to accompany the 'w(h)ine'. your obvious recognition of what was
best for
	health of the distro and at least listening to users is a breath of
fresh air.

	who is this guy. has he written a single line of code or contribute
any resources
	to the dev efforts. if he did he should have chatted you up offline.

	is he one of your partners. a greedy investor? a literary critic?

	hope he's the last because i always bet against the critics.

	btw,,,good job except for my own ignorance on how-to or my laptop 
	is justa piece of stinkpad crap.

	keep up the good work.

	richard....we will miss you ....for about 2 secs...

	lates..out

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Shortland
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:16 PM
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; Mark Shuttleworth
Subject: Re: Outcome of community meeting on 18 October

Having just read your post I feel that I have to add my say.  First off you 
have do not have the guts to follow anything through.  What are you going to

do when someone complains about something else in the future.  Just roll 
over and let them walk all over you.  You have given in to the religious 
minority, whose sole aim in life is to make everything is suitably dull and 
lifeless.  To save all the whinging that has gone recently why don't just 
hand over control to them now and have done with it.

The new style artwork was a breath of fresh air in a somewhat stale Linux 
enviroment.  The old style was bland and boring.  Hell even Windows XP looks

better than that!  Everyone I had spoken to said that the artwork was 
excellent and that they were excited that someone had decided to do 
something different.  A few people were even going to have a me install 
Ubuntu on to spare machines that they had so that they could have a look at 
Linux for thre first time.

Because of this I have decided not to use Ubuntu and not to recommend it to 
anyone.  I was in the process of writing an article praising Ubuntu and 
passing that on to the secondary schools in my area as well as the local 
education authority.  Also I was also going to distribute it to all the 
students and staff at the school I work for.  This is not just your fault 
but that of the people on the mailing list as well.  Their general lack of 
maturity took on a whole new meaning during this debarcle.  For that alone I

couldn't recommend Ubuntu to anyone now.

Richard Shortland

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shuttleworth" <mark at hbd.com>
To: "Ubuntu Users List" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Outcome of community meeting on 18 October

>
> We had an extensive open discussion on Monday about the artwork for the 
> final release of 4.10 (The Warty Warthog). I think it's fair to say we had

> representatives from across the community present and participating, as 
> well as many of the core developers. A full transcript of the meeting is 
> at http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/ubuntu-artwork-meeting.log
>
> Based on the meeting I've asked for the following to be done in time for 
> the final release of Warty:
>
> - the default login screen will contain no imagery
> - the "circle of friends" login screen will be available as an option 
> after installation on new machines
>
> - the  gnomesplash will revert to that of the preview release, with the 
> Ubuntu logo
>
> - the default desktop will remain the "ubuntu" desktop which has the 
> chocolate colour and ubuntu logo
> - the calendar will not be installed by default, this is now a separate 
> ubuntu-calendar package
>   - the calendar requires network access for monthly updated wallpapers in

> any event
>
> All of these changes have now been made and should be available to you 
> when you next update the packages on an installed Ubuntu system.
>
> The art theme of ubuntu is one way in which we would like to distinguish 
> the distribution, but it's clear that will need to be a derivative work or

> separate layer of packages rather than part of the default.
>
> In the pantheon of ideas about which it could be asked "which dumbnut 
> dreamed this up?" the idea of strong human imagery in Ubuntu would appear 
> to feature prominently, and the dumbnut in question would be me. I'll have

> to shoulder any blame for the original idea and it's execution, so please 
> direct any such feedback at me rather than other Ubuntu developers, and 
> thanks to all of you who helped to straighten me out.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
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