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[David Coldrick]

Again, I'm no lawyer, but the *intent* of that first phrase is simply
to prevent people from providing alternative components to replace the
components being distributed from Sun: so it is indeed not allowed to
modify/ enhance/whatever the distributed software. Sorta like
NVIDIA's:

"Linux/FreeBSD Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of
Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or
FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the
source code to these operating systems, may be copied and
redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified
in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files)."

but not phrased as clearly :-(

As to the second point, well, as you say, it needs thought.

The reference http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/source_license.html is
pretty good: it includes this:

"Both the JDK and JRE can be freely redistributed with value-add. JDK
or JRE use for embedded devices and other computing environments may
require a license fee from Sun"

Regards,
David

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:30:19 +0000, Colin Watson <cjwatson at canonical.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 02:11:36PM +1100, David Coldrick wrote:
> > Color me confused. How does Sun Java come out non-free (capitalized or
> > not :-))? What's the difference between including NVIDIA drivers and
> > including Java?
> 
> The most current Sun Java licence I can find,
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jdk-1_5_0-license.txt, includes the term
> "you do not distribute additional software intended to replace any
> component(s) of the Software (unless otherwise specified in the
> applicable README file)". This places an unacceptable restriction on
> what we're allowed to distribute; for example, it forbids us to
> distribute both Sun Java and Kaffe.
> 
> It also includes the term "you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its
> licensors from and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement
> amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in
> connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third party that
> arises or results from the use or distribution of any and all Programs
> and/or Software", which at the very least requires some serious thought.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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> Colin Watson                                    [cjwatson at canonical.com]
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