Outline for Ubuntu Book

[Ben Edwards]

Sorry - this should of been sent to the list

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:37:08 +0100, Enrico Zini <enrico at enricozini.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 12:28:12PM +0000, Ben Edwards wrote:
> 
> > > More seriously: DHCP is auto-detectable, and so is a PPPOE ADSL modem
> > > and probably a serial modem as well.
> > i'me not realy aware of many serial modems with DHCP servers.
> 
> Oh, no... I didn't intend that :)
> 
> I meant that if you have a local lan, you can see if DHCP works.
> 
> If DHCP doesn't work, you can send PADO probe packets to see if there's
> a working PPPOE modem in the network (pppoe has an option for it and I
> exploit that in guessnet).
> 
> Else, serial modems can maybe be probed (like by sending "ATZ" to the
> various /dev/ttyS* devices), but that may conflict with other existing
> serial devices and I don't know if there's a sane way of doing it.
> 
> But now that I think more about it, networking devices which are not
> Ethernet+DHCP can just be described as "not working by default" and we
> could point at what icon to run to make them work.
> 
> 
> > I beleve Mepis workes with WinModems and its a GPL debian distro so
> > maybe we should push for its solution to go into Ubuntu.
> 
> Yup!  Yup!  Yup!
> However there is to be seen if they are really fully free software:
> there are various Debian derivatives (like Kurumin) which add non-free
> software in order to make more things work.
> 
> 
> > > This could also be said: "let's document what works, and leave the rest
> > > to troubleshooting".
> > Generaly agree but as connecting to the internet is such a fundamental
> > thing newbies should do it really neads to be in the newbie manaual -
> > maybe some of it is a in a winmodem apendix.
> 
> I agree with you: it makes sense that troubleshooting about connecting
> to the internet be a part of the book itself.
> 
> But ehi, you quoted me off-list, this discussion would be better in
> list... if you want, please quote me there.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Enrico
> 
> --
> GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini <enrico at enricozini.org>
> 
> 
> 


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