Dropping support for Mozilla suite?

[Bryan Pizzuti]

Don't know, don't care. Though I'm sure it's in my LPI study guide
somewhere. ;)

Persoanlly, if the dreaded Windows was married to the ancient DOS EDIT
program like Linux is married to vi and emacs, then Linux probably would
have more market share. One must change with the times, you know. ;)


On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 07:24 -0800, Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN
wrote:
> bryan,
> 
> do you know why vi and emacs are so closely tied to the unixian dev
> community?
> lets see if you know your unix history. hint....think bill joy and mit also.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Bryan Pizzuti
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:45 PM
> To: Ubuntu Users
> Subject: RE: Dropping support for Mozilla suite?
> 
> 
> Unless one prefers nano. :)  Personally I HATE vi and emacs (Yes, UNIX
> sinner I am, sue me) but I'm stuck with them because UNIX and Linux
> married themselves to those a long time ago. For simple text editing, I
> don't see the advantantages of vi and emacs over nano. 
> 
> However, I DO see the advantages of a WYSIWIG HTML designer over a text
> mode one. Some of my background is graphic design, and I have a better
> time doing site designing with a visual tool (at least initially;
> usually I'll use a text editor to clean up the HTML afterwards at
> least). 
> 
> I think some have forgotten that OpenOffice.org Writer has support for
> saving as HTML. That would be a viable replacement for the Mozilla
> Composer, and it wouldn't even require additional space on the CD. ;)
> 
> On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 08:04 -0800, Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN
> wrote:
> > people, people....hi, this is prof. old-puffen-n-stuf,
> > 
> > 	'html is text, mein little ones, and as text nothing is better than
> > vi'
> > 
> > 	use the kiss principle.
> > 
> > out~
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> > [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Martin
> > Alderson
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:19 AM
> > To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com; Ubuntu Users
> > Subject: Re: Dropping support for Mozilla suite?
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think so.
> > 
> > There is very little chance that a fully featured web site authoring
> > tool will come out of the OSS community for a while. Dreamweaver is
> > the standard, and it's quite good.
> > 
> > Same with Fireworks or Illustrator, currently there is no good vector
> > drawing program that can do web graphics (Fireworks is a big
> > favourite).
> > 
> > NVu is horrible IMO, very clunky and terrible usability issues.
> > 
> > I think at this moment in time the best thing to do is point people
> > towards a good web text editor (ie: support for CSS, HTML and JS
> > syntax highlighting) and a copy of GIMP.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:06:07 +0100, Martin Pitt
> > <martin.pitt at canonical.com> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > John Levin [2004-11-19 13:24 +0000]:
> > > > I'd certainly miss Mozilla Composer - would support for Nvu be added
> to
> > > > Ubuntu?
> > > 
> > > We certainly need a good HTML editor. Personally I know only one (vim,
> > > sorry folks :-) ), but I think it will not be a problem to hear the
> > > voice and wishes of the community here.
> > > 
> > > > Is there a transcript of the Tuesday meeting online? I'd like to get
> up
> > > > to speed on this debate.
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2004-11-16.ht
> > ml
> > > 
> > > Martin
> > > 
> > > 
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