merchandise

david nux at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Nov 18 19:15:17 UTC 2004


On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 18:41 +0000, Louise McCance-Price wrote:
> Hi Shango
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> Shango Oluwa wrote:
> 
> >Well, on this topic of merchandise...
> >
> >I would just like to break something down here for the list:
> >
> >'Ubuntu' is an African word, yes, but specifically it is a Nguni word
> >from southern Africa - so, for instance, the word is not used in Sudan
> >(although its equivalent exists - despite Arab colonialism's efforts to
> >deny Africans their humanity in that region). Importantly, Cape Town, in
> >South Africa has an excellent textile and clothing industry that will
> >deliver the same quality fabric and screen-printing as that available
> >via CafeExpress at vast cost-savings to buyers and with moral fibre...
> >
> >  
> >
> If you find a website that allows you to set up a shop online and 
> printing is done in SA, that would be a great option to service Southern 
> Africa. We are open to suggestions and appreciate our community assisting.
> 
> >Respect to the international community, but the use of a US enterprise
> >(that also prints right-wing political merchandise for $$)
> >
> There is also Freedom of speech and Freedom of expression.
> Ubuntu has no political affilliation. Cafepress is merely and outlet for 
> people to purchase merchandise.
> If you do not wish to use them, that is absolutely your freedom of 
> choice. We are merely hosting a shop at Cafepress, not endorsing any of 
> their other shops' merchandise, beliefs etc.
> 
> > to promote an OS labelled with "an ancient African word meaning 'humanity to others'"
> >is unacceptable. I can suggest a socially responsible printer in Mark
> >Shuttleworth's country to anyone responsible for merchandise - feel free
> >to ask.
> >  
> >
> We look forward to your supplying other options. Please do get in touch 
> with me asap.
> It will be useful to have portals on each continent, so the shipping 
> cost of the merchandise can be reduced,
> and hopefully the prices charged will be lower than what Cafepress 
> requre as their base price.
> 
> >I am not looking to tussle politics here, I just want to point out what
> >is at stake here. This is the Free and Open Source Software community,
> >so let us keep that in mind. When, you, the UbuntuLinux team chose
> >'ubuntu' you subscribed to an African value system that we African's
> >will stand by and call you to honour.
> >  
> >
> Yes, we are on the same page here = please let's not tussle politics here.
> 
> No matter what colour, political, religious or other belief, everyone is 
> entitled to their own.
> We are creating a distribution with a strong community that lives in all 
> corners of the World.
> What may be acceptable to someone in USA may not be acceptable to 
> someone in RSA, Seychelles or Kenya.
> Freedom of expression, choice, belief, religion and opinion is what is 






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