After 5 hours of struggle Java works in FireFox

[Ari Torhamo]

ti, 2004-12-28 kello 00:52 -0800, Chuck Vose kirjoitti:
> I know this is a crap answer but I've been reading Richard Stallman
> all day. Java will never be supported in Ubuntu unless Sun decides to
> make it free. Ubuntu is run by the people that run Debian, the
> obscenely free distro of linux. Asking them to make installing a
> non-free easy is like asking them to poke their mothers in the eye for
> your pleasure.

I don't think this is a crap awnser at all. I highly respect the ideals
of free software movement and people who work for them. I'm also ready
to suffer a little to support these ideals and not having an easy and
integrated method of installing Java or Flash, or even being left
without them, doesn't feel that bad when I know the reason reason for
it. The main reason for me seeing all this trouble with these plug-ins
is to help Windows users that I have convinced to try Ubuntu to get as
nice user experience as possible and not to feel that there's something
missing. 

> You might be able to convince the Firefox devs to help out in this
> respect but I'll be willing to bet that they value freedom as much as
> the Ubuntu devs do. Anyone spending a large chunk of their time
> developing GNU/Linux stands a good chance of being obsessed with
> freedom.
> 
> So until Sun decides to be less evil, I think you'll probably be out
> of luck for a really nice, evolving solution.
> 
> -Chuck
> 
> PS. I know this doesn't solve the problem at all, but I'm hoping that
> at least now you know _why_ it isn't easy and why is _won't_ be easy
> for some time. It's not personal.

Thanks for your reply, it gave me strength to face these problems :-)

-Ari-